[IC] GMK Cyan Full Set

[Makeo]

This is a nice looking set!!

[Elrick]

Here's the original group buy for GMK Cyan modifier keyset, but we've decided turning it into full set.

Please post here if you are interested, or have any questions or suggestions.

SCHWEET GEEZUS H. KHRIST - Count me in for at least 4 sets.  YES, if it's labelled GMK I'll buy it easily because you can't get pure ABS perfection then here with these German Made wonders.

Feng, let us know when you'll start this important Group Buy and above all else CLEARLY specify start and end dates so no one misses out on getting these babies  .

[dustinhxc]

More GMK? Oh man.. Sounds amazing.. The ISO sounds great.

[Den441]

yep, cyan on grey would make it closer to the TA set and look much better

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Based on the GMK color samples I've seen floating around, I think 3K or 2M would look great. It wouldn't really alter the overall look of this set, only add some more contrast to the alphas and give it more of that great vintage TA vibe. 

[echo0]

Interested. 

[FrostyToast]

I would prefer the alphas were cyan on light grey just because I think GMK's UN6037 is pretty bright for pure white alphas. I am definitely still interested though.

Yeah, the contrast might be better.

Maybe someone can provide comparison mockups?

Sooooo basically cyan Olivetti?
I would be down for that

Correction: that would be more like cyan classic.

[dakuzo]

Definitely interested in the Base Set

[Orca]

IN! 

[jonathanyu]

really interested in this set

[madhias]

I'm also interested in this set. Hopefully the CMYW group buy will arrive sometimes in the future, or other CMYK modifier addons!

[whentheclouds]

despite being poor as hell, a faux-TA lookalike will be an instantbuy for me

i mean, even Dolch can't compare with this:



edit: GMK cyan is probably brighter than in this photo but that's something i can live with

[cphead]

despite being poor as hell, a faux-TA lookalike will be an instantbuy for me

i mean, even Dolch can't compare with this:

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edit: GMK cyan is probably brighter than in this photo but that's something i can live with

This color is very very nice .. :eek:

[luckyryan333]

Down for these sets.

[elton5354]

Run the buy already!

[feizor]

Run the buy already!

This.

[Patchwrks]

Down

[bazh]

despite being poor as hell, a faux-TA lookalike will be an instantbuy for me

i mean, even Dolch can't compare with this:

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edit: GMK cyan is probably brighter than in this photo but that's something i can live with

vote for light grey base, people \m/

[bazh]

Run the buy already!

This.

stop it, Patrick

[SpAmRaY]

despite being poor as hell, a faux-TA lookalike will be an instantbuy for me

i mean, even Dolch can't compare with this:

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edit: GMK cyan is probably brighter than in this photo but that's something i can live with

The problem is that color is a result of fading, the caps were not that color originally and there isn't really anything close to that to use in GMK's catalog of colors.

[whentheclouds]

totally aware, that's why i called it faux-TA. though i wonder how much more expansive it'd be if we want a GMK set with custom colors

[LechnerDE]

Run the buy already!

This.

What they said!

 

[IvanIvanovich]

GMK MOQ for custom color is 700 units (they have a minimum order from their materials vendor). It's not any more expensive, but probably not feasible for us due to the scale required.

[bazh]

I thought MOQ for custom color is 600? (I remember from the Toxic GB when we had the idea to switch to GMK, though it doesn't mean anything much 'cause we'll never get to that number anyway)

And I remember someone said that the TA set is just Cyan color wear off right?

[geniekid]

Someone buy two sets and leave one under a UV light for 6 months. 

[feng]

If you just want to keep the ISO part simple, and keep it with straight US but in ISO the correct thing is to have row C \| 1 unit key and a blank row B 1 unit for between 1.25 shift and Z.
I really like this. I hope I have money when this goes live.

So you meant like three extra keys added to the standard US layout? Including ISO enter, R3 \|, and a blank R4 1 unit for between 1.25 shift and Z.

[feng]

Idea... this is pretty close to something I was thinking about doing anyway... so maybe add a little flavor pack to this?
WASD and Esc - UN33656 on U9 (thats magenta on sandy beige)
arrows and enters UN6037 on UN33656 (thats white on magenta)
Give it that Miami Beach feels?

UN6037 on UN33656 (cyan on magenta) sounds good to me. Not sure why we need the UN33656 on U9 though. I think it doesn't match with cyan.

[LechnerDE]

If you just want to keep the ISO part simple, and keep it with straight US but in ISO the correct thing is to have row C \| 1 unit key and a blank row B 1 unit for between 1.25 shift and Z.
I really like this. I hope I have money when this goes live.

So you meant like three extra keys added to the standard US layout? Including ISO enter, R3 \|, and a blank R4 1 unit for between 1.25 shift and Z.

Please, whatever you do, DO NOT just throw in a blank key.

It looks so retarted if every key has a legend except a single one. It will always stick out.

For me that would be enough to not buy the set.

So what I am trying to say is, please put something on the key between Z and Shift (see my proposal on the previous page)


Thanks for considering 

[feng]

If you just want to keep the ISO part simple, and keep it with straight US but in ISO the correct thing is to have row C \| 1 unit key and a blank row B 1 unit for between 1.25 shift and Z.
I really like this. I hope I have money when this goes live.

So you meant like three extra keys added to the standard US layout? Including ISO enter, R3 \|, and a blank R4 1 unit for between 1.25 shift and Z.

Please, whatever you do, DO NOT just throw in a blank key.

It looks so retarted if every key has a legend except a single one. It will always stick out.

For me that would be enough to not buy the set.

So what I am trying to say is, please put something on the key between Z and Shift (see my proposal on the previous page)


Thanks for considering 

It is supposed to be a "<>|" key between left shift and Z? I was checking some ISO keys on google, but I was so confused because it seems like not all ISO layouts are the same.

[LechnerDE]

If you just want to keep the ISO part simple, and keep it with straight US but in ISO the correct thing is to have row C \| 1 unit key and a blank row B 1 unit for between 1.25 shift and Z.
I really like this. I hope I have money when this goes live.

So you meant like three extra keys added to the standard US layout? Including ISO enter, R3 \|, and a blank R4 1 unit for between 1.25 shift and Z.

Please, whatever you do, DO NOT just throw in a blank key.

It looks so retarted if every key has a legend except a single one. It will always stick out.

For me that would be enough to not buy the set.

So what I am trying to say is, please put something on the key between Z and Shift (see my proposal on the previous page)


Thanks for considering 

It is supposed to be a "<>|" key between left shift and Z? I was checking some ISO keys on google, but I was so confused because it seems like not all ISO layouts are the same.

Yes, there are many different ISO versions with slight differences.

Since all the other legends (especially num row) are wrong for ISO users, anyway it doesn't really matter what you put on it. The only important thing (at least to me) is a consistent look.

The "<>|" key is for the German ISO layout. Most GBs on Geekhack have the ISO UK version in their ISO kit ("| \").

Just pick one and I will buy a full set 

[feng]

Yes, there are many different ISO versions with slight differences.

Since all the other legends (especially num row) are wrong for ISO users, anyway it doesn't really matter what you put on it. The only important thing (at least to me) is a consistent look.

The "<>|" key is for the German ISO layout. Most GBs on Geekhack have the ISO UK version in their ISO kit ("| \").

Just pick one and I will buy a full set 

If there's a R4 \| key for the ISO UK version, then do we still need the R3 \| key as originally added to the full set?

[LechnerDE]

Yes, there are many different ISO versions with slight differences.

Since all the other legends (especially num row) are wrong for ISO users, anyway it doesn't really matter what you put on it. The only important thing (at least to me) is a consistent look.

The "<>|" key is for the German ISO layout. Most GBs on Geekhack have the ISO UK version in their ISO kit ("| \").

Just pick one and I will buy a full set 

If there's a R4 \| key for the ISO UK version, then do we still need the R3 \| key as originally added to the full set?

No, the R3 key (next to ISO enter) should be the "#~" key 

see this for more information (or more confusion):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY

[feng]

No, the R3 key (next to ISO enter) should be the "#~" key 

see this for more information (or more confusion):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY

So we just need three keys including ISO enter, R3 ~#, and R4 \| in order to complete a simple ISO layout?

[LechnerDE]

No, the R3 key (next to ISO enter) should be the "#~" key 

see this for more information (or more confusion):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY

So we just need three keys including ISO enter, R3 ~#, and R4 \| in order to complete a simple ISO layout?

Yes,

4 extra keys in total. See my post on page 1:

I am definitely in for a set!

I still don't like the icon mods, but I guess this is already decided.


For ISO you need 4 extra keys in total:

1x ISO enter key (cyan with white legends)
1x 1,25 left shift key (cyan with white legends)
1x R3 alpha key (white with cyan legends) normally "~#"
1x R4 alpha key (white with cyan legends) normally "|\"

Since all the legends are wrong for me anyway I don't care what's on the extra ISO alpha keys as long as they are NOT blank!

[feng]

Yes,

4 extra keys in total. See my post on page 1:

Got it. I'll ask GMK to edit the render then. Thanks a lot for your help!

[xandr]

Actually, I'd rather see the \| on R3 like it's the default for the "US-International" keyboard layout in Windows and Mac OS. We surely want to go with international and not just UK, right?

The ~# only makes sense on UK layouts where there's a 3£ instead of a 3# key.

[feng]

What's the MOST widely accepted ISO layout? If the \| key is R3, then what's for the R4 key between left shift and Z?

[LechnerDE]

What's the MOST widely accepted ISO layout? If the \| key is R3, then what's for the R4 key between left shift and Z?

As I said, I don't care because the legends are wrong anyway, but I think using the International layout might be the best compromise 

[feng]

Is this the international ISO layout?

[azhdar]

Matt3o did it well in his granite group buy

with that sort of kit :

you cover a lot of ISO layout .

It worked well , and if us europeans can be smart enough we split a big kit like we did for granite .

Only UK ISO will be "screwed" since ISO kit is often cheaper . But other ISO are so hard to find , we hardly can passe on those kind of deals .

[bazh]

The US ISO in fact has the key between Z and Shift blank..

[LechnerDE]

Matt3o did it well in his granite group buy

with that sort of kit :

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you cover a lot of ISO layout .

It worked well , and if us europeans can be smart enough we split a big kit like we did for granite .

Only UK ISO will be "screwed" since ISO kit is often cheaper . But other ISO are so hard to find , we hardly can passe on those kind of deals .

This is simply not feasible with GMK.

No ANSI user will pay for this ****load of caps (I wouldn't either) and there is no way we can reach MOQ of 250 for this set.

I think it's good enough to have 2 generic Alpha keys plus the left shift + ISO Enter to complete an ISO set.

[azhdar]

I'm not familiar with GMK group buy , don't they do extra kits like PMK or MassDrop ?

If not ofc it's an impossible deal .

[LechnerDE]

I'm not familiar with GMK group buy , don't they do extra kits like PMK or MassDrop ?

If not ofc it's an impossible deal .

No, every kit has to have at least 250 orders while PMK allows orders as low as 10.

That's why it's so hard to run a succesful GMK GB...

[azhdar]

ok now I understand , thanks for the precision .

[xandr]

Is this the international ISO layout?

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That's actually Apple's version of the English International ISO layout. I don't think GMK has a `~ for R4.

Ivan's Dolch does have the \| key twice. One for R3 and one for R4, so that's always an option. Depending on whether it's a huge impact in price or not, maybe R3 #~ and \| as well as an R4 \| might be an option? This way both US and UK ISO users would be happy(ish).

[FrostyToast]

Even though I don't use it at all,  I would cough up extra cash for a big enter if it means some users being able to use this set.

[IvanIvanovich]

US ISO has the \| key next to enter. The key next to left shift can be same or blank, though on Windows it actually does nothing so is most often left as blank. If you want to have UK ISO then you could always just include the 5 GB layout specific keys as it wouldn't be more than a couple EUR cost increase and you would have a proper GB layout not half assed one.

[chrisq]

Please, whatever you do, DO NOT just throw in a blank key.

It looks so retarted if every key has a legend except a single one. It will always stick out.

For me that would be enough to not buy the set.
So what I am trying to say is, please put something on the key between Z and Shift (see my proposal on the previous page)
Thanks for considering 

Please also remeber that this is just one guys opinion, personally I would much rather have a blank key than the wrong legend.   

[whentheclouds]

so no light grey base? looks like that faux TA set will remain an unobtainable dream for me

[dustinhxc]

Id love to go in on the Modifiers and ISO Enter. If not splitting up, then full set + ISO keys.