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Offline Tiramisuu

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Yet another Poker 2 layout thread
« on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 11:56:45 »

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/6bb09db6eef988811b146b9d3ac193c2

Shift-Backspace   = Capslock


Looking for a critique and suggestions.

   Strongly considering using the backspace key for something else but for the moment while I learn Colemak it is my most used key.

Predominant use cases are reading and writing English documents under windows.  I type a lot every day, touch type in the 80-90 wpm range.  (currently about 5 wpm under Colemak).

I have seen some minor optimizations on colemak
http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/carpalx/?improving_colemak

I will be using AHK & Poker 2 for mapping and Colemak is new and painful, so I have pretty much unlimited flexibility in picking layouts right now  ;D

Once I have my layout worked out I will build/have built a Tiramisu custom to suit that is properly programmable so that I do not have to copy binaries onto corporate machines and wireless for portability and presentations.

I may try a full width 40 i.e.



Thoughts?
« Last Edit: Mon, 13 October 2014, 12:10:32 by Tiramisuu »
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Offline dinoxor

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Re: Yet another Poker 2 layout thread
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 13:57:24 »
Looks good and pretty similar to my layout!

I use ahk to trigger a capslock layer and an enter layer. Similar to space fn layer somewhere posted on here.

When holding down caps lock, I trigger the arrow keys and the number pad without triggering the caps lock itself.
Tapping the caps lock twice fairly quickly will then trigger the caps lock.
As for the number pad, my "0" is triggered with a space bar, my "." is triggered with the alt key, the backspace is triggered with the ";" key, and the remaining keys where my right pinky can reach, I placed the standard math operation symbols (+,-,/,*).

I'm not too sure what to do with the enter layer, but it triggers the arrow keys in the same position as the caps lock layer. I suppose I use the enter layer whenever my left pinky gets tired.

My goal is to access shortcuts without contorting my fingers in weird position and to keep my fingers on the home row key.

Good luck and keep us updated!





Offline ksm123

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Re: Yet another Poker 2 layout thread
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 14:11:02 »
My experience is not with 60% keyboards, but with ErgoDox.

  • Do you need numpad? If not, then don't waste premium key estate for it.
  • Are you a gamer? Which is your dominant hand? I am not used to WASD cluster, and right is my dominant hand so I've chosen to assign arrows to right hand.
  • Consider placing Home and End on respectively left and right side of up arrow, it makes them easily available

Offline Tiramisuu

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Re: Yet another Poker 2 layout thread
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 14:24:40 »
I'm not quite sure if poker will play nice with AHK yet.  In my imagination I use AHK to remap my base layer and the hardware Pn layer for 10 key and navigation, and fn for misc shortcuts.

In practice all mapping might have to be in AHK for me to use Colemak in my base layer.   Will have to do some reading on AHK and play w/ the poker when it arrives on the slow boat from china.
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Offline jacobolus

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Re: Yet another Poker 2 layout thread
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 17:47:03 »
On your numpad, use spacebar for zero and right alt for period.

Offline StylinGreymon

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Re: Yet another Poker 2 layout thread
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 13 October 2014, 18:08:10 »
This is what I've been working with for a while:

Colemak (sorta) with some layout changes inspired by samwisekoi.
Pretty damn comfy.
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Offline batfink

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Re: Yet another Poker 2 layout thread
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 03:33:24 »
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Why would you assign one of the most common letters, D, to what is probably the hardest to reach key?

A better Colemak optimization would be (from base Colemak) to move :
D -> P,  P -> G,  G -> D

Offline Tiramisuu

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Re: Yet another Poker 2 layout thread
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 14 October 2014, 16:53:11 »
The funny part of learning a new layout is that it is effort for efforts sake.   I am unlikely to type any faster with one layout than another and the transition is right up there with having teeth pulled.

I am wondering why I have decided to poke myself in the eye with a stick 😀
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