Author Topic: Silence!!! (Read 10963 times)

Zamorph · « **on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 20:21:26 »

Tired of hearing your mx cherry keyboards make noise just like that annoying woman you call a wife? Look no further!!!!

http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,slpads

LOL srsly, why would anyone want this o.o, I mean, you buy blues cuz you like the noise, right?

noodles256 · « **Reply #1 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 20:24:01 »

u right

BucklingSpring · « **Reply #2 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 20:47:53 »

Quote from: Zamorph;333814

LOL srsly, why would anyone want this o.o, I mean, you buy blues cuz you like the noise, right?

Thanks for the post. I didn't catch those on EK.

Now to answer your question; This will not affect the clickyness of the switch. It will only damper the sound when you are bottoming out.

It is useless if you are a boob cloudist.

I'm interested to ear comments from people who actually did this mod to their board. Anyone?

.XL · « **Reply #3 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 20:49:11 »

Quote from: BucklingSpring;333836

boob cloudist.

$0.25

godofdeath · « **Reply #4 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 20:49:48 »

like the sound dont know why i would ever want these

RiGS · « **Reply #5 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 20:56:30 »

I think this is awesome.

RickyJ · « **Reply #6 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 21:02:24 »

I made some like these for my Alps board with 2mm foam sheets, and the reduced travel was annoying. 1mm thick should be alright.

godofdeath · « **Reply #7 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 21:03:37 »

someone try it out for us

BucklingSpring · « **Reply #8 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 21:06:32 »

Quote from: RickyJ;333852

I made some like these for my Alps board with 2mm foam sheets, and the reduced travel was annoying. 1mm thick should be alright.

Did yours looked like this?

The specs do not mention how thick they are.
Nevermind - Alps <> MX

Lpb45 · « **Reply #9 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 21:10:27 »

I agree with Rigs, these look pretty interesting and lets not ignore the fact that its only 12 bux for 120 of em.

reaper · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 21:10:27 »

For $12.50 I just might buy a set to try it out. lol

BucklingSpring · « **Reply #11 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 21:12:14 »

The idea is not new though

guilleguillaume · « **Reply #12 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 21:16:58 »

If this can be putted inside a packet will be an amazing option to buy from outside of USA like the single Keycaps since they will fit into a small packet so it will be cheaper to people outside of USA.

Lpb45 · « **Reply #13 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 21:25:28 »

Quote from: guilleguillaume;333871

If this can be putted inside a packet will be an amazing option to buy from outside of USA like the single Keycaps since they will fit into a small packet so it will be cheaper to people outside of USA.

This will definatley be possible. They will be able to fit in the standard fed-ex envelope

.XL · « **Reply #14 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 22:26:45 »

Quote from: Lpb45;333882

This will definatley be possible. They will be able to fit in the standard fed-ex envelope

You could even put them in a standard USPS letter envelope and send em USPS for $0.88 - $2.00

nhwhaup · « **Reply #15 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 22:50:21 »

I just ordered both sets to try the difference between the soft and the firm ones. I am all about feel of the keys but really like a more quiet key. This could make my close to perfect Filco with the reds pretty near perfect. I know most on this forum love the clicking. I personally am all about the silence and my husband is definitely for silence. Thanks for the heads up. If not for this forum I wouldn't have seen these as really I have stopped searching for anymore keyboards. I'll give some feedback to the group once I have the pads and have used them a bit.

Lpb45 · « **Reply #16 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 23:03:24 »

Quote from: nhwhaup;333950

I just ordered both sets to try the difference between the soft and the firm ones. I am all about feel of the keys but really like a more quiet key. This could make my close to perfect Filco with the reds pretty near perfect. I know most on this forum love the clicking. I personally am all about the silence and my husband is definitely for silence. Thanks for the heads up. If not for this forum I wouldn't have seen these as really I have stopped searching for anymore keyboards. I'll give some feedback to the group once I have the pads and have used them a bit.

Yes, please post a review of both when you recieve. I have a red aswell so I will be eager to hear how these are.

sordna · « **Reply #17 on:** Tue, 19 April 2011, 23:06:58 »

From the photos they look like they are at least 1.5mm. Please measure them once you receive them and let us know!

MrPhil · « **Reply #18 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 00:14:33 »

I just ordered both as well, just funny that we were talking about the issue of loud keyboards

MrSneis · « **Reply #19 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 00:16:29 »

Looks like a good experiment to try along with the dental bands mod.

nhwhaup · « **Reply #20 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 03:22:40 »

Quote from: MrSneis;333994

Looks like a good experiment to try along with the dental bands mod.

What is the dental bands mod and what does it do?

RiGS · « **Reply #21 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 07:13:44 »

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:8857&redirect=no

AcidSouL · « **Reply #22 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 07:22:01 »

here my mode...this is the bottom of very cheap mouse pad

they are like 2.5mm but its soft material and when they work a little more time with this "+" thing inside the key dont know how it calls they go like 1.5mm and its fine for me...
its a little strange now...because the keys dont down all 4mm now... and the feel its a little fleet but...not bottoming out anymore..and a lot more quiet now

and i am kinda type more fast...i think

The Solutor · « **Reply #23 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 07:33:32 »

Just tried to build one.

Very effective.

Obviously black is not the better color to use it on a backlit keyboard.

BTW I'm not sure I like the final effect, is something like silencing an Harley Davidson...

Larry Dallas · « **Reply #24 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 08:09:47 »

Quote from: .XL;333931

You could even put them in a standard USPS letter envelope and send em USPS for $0.88 - $2.00

For those living in Canada, that's probably $.88+$54.23 tax. Better to keister them.

BucklingSpring · « **Reply #25 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 08:28:49 »

Quote from: The Solutor;334095

Obviously black is not the better color to use it on a backlit keyboard.

BTW I'm not sure I like the final effect, is something like silencing an Harley Davidson...

Silencing a Harley makes everyone happy but the driver. That's what I call socially effective.

Yep I guess backlit are not ment to be silenced, unless you release a 2.0 with a second hole for the LED.

The Solutor · « **Reply #26 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 08:48:14 »

Quote from: BucklingSpring;334106

Silencing a Harley makes everyone happy but the driver..

Yes, exactly like here

Quote

Yep I guess backlit are not ment to be silenced, unless you release a 2.0 with a second hole for the LED.

Black foam doesn't kill the backlit, I think that white foam should be sufficient

Tallon · « **Reply #27 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 14:52:24 »

I emailed elitekeyboards to see how thick these pads are (to see how much they reduce key travel). His response - he can't give specifics because they are unable to patent these items. However, he was able to give some info --

The soft ones barely reduce key travel, but do not effect the sound as much. The firm pads reduce key travel more noticeably but also have a very significant reduction in noise.

-Tallon

CeeSA · « **Reply #28 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 14:58:11 »

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:14621

"RutschStop" ftw

RiGS · « **Reply #29 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 15:07:06 »

Quote

His response - he can't give specifics because they are unable to patent these items.

rofl
Soft-Landing Pads must be a serious business! We should definitely reverse engineer it...

DrunkenDonut · « **Reply #30 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 15:58:07 »

Quote from: Tallon;334355

His response - he can't give specifics because they are unable to patent these items.

wha? that's a pretty weird statement to make... But still, kudos to bring something like this for those that don't feel like DIYing their own solution. I might want to try this for blues and maybe the fukka xm. I like the sound of the blues without caps. It's a different sound with caps on. I haven't tried reds so can't comment on those. I don't see myself doing this for browns or blacks though. Also, making holes in 100+ foam bits is not that fun if you don't have a punch or other good clean quick way of making them.

Tallon · « **Reply #31 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 16:30:52 »

I agree - but at least he was honest. I am very likely to order some soon. If I can lower the loud "clack", I'll be much happier (as will my wife) and I won't have to spend 300 bucks for a topre

. Hell, if I don't get a topre, I can probably finagle a way to get the new Zibel and the Deck so I can try out clears and blacks

.

I thought about trying to make my own pads, but I don't have the materials here that would work right without having to cut them out of large foam blocks. Having them pre-cut to perfection would be pretty nice.

brkim1324 · « **Reply #32 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 16:42:15 »

yea.. maybe it's for the people who cannot afford brown switch but just doesn't wanna bother other ppl around...
but true, u wanna type on the those keyboards to hear that audio feedback!

J888www · « **Reply #33 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 17:06:17 »

How the World changes so quickly, I had always thought until now that MX Blues are more expensive that Browns. When I had a few MX Brown kbds, I had difficulties trying to obtain Blue switches.

Others may not like the idea of reducing the music but the option is now available without the necessity to have dexterity for cutting little squares, especially when you have paws.

Tallon · « **Reply #34 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:12:37 »

Well, I went ahead and ordered one of each type, so I'll chime in when they arrive with my opinion of them...

The Solutor · « **Reply #35 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 20:37:03 »

Quote from: The Solutor;334095

Just tried to build one.

Show Image

Very effective.

Obviously black is not the better color to use it on a backlit keyboard.

BTW I'm not sure I like the final effect, is something like silencing an Harley Davidson...

New experiment with LDPE closed cell foam.

Feels different, because the closed cell (better IMHO) and is absolutely unnoticeable on the backlit key.

godofdeath · « **Reply #36 on:** Wed, 20 April 2011, 23:03:01 »

So who ordered both?

Can I get like 2 pieces of each?
I want to see if they can silence that metal vibration sound from the enter key when i smack it down

calavera · « **Reply #37 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 02:01:26 »

Anyone have a youtube clip of this? I'm curious as to what difference it makes.

nhwhaup · « **Reply #38 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 03:02:59 »

Quote from: godofdeath;334674

So who ordered both?

Can I get like 2 pieces of each?
I want to see if they can silence that metal vibration sound from the enter key when i smack it down

So the sets come with 120 pads - so being a newbie and never having taken off a key - how many of these pads would I need for a 103 keyboard? Do any keys other than the space bar have multiple switches? Looks like with the 120 I should have extras and will be happy to mail you a couple of each. PM me your address.

godofdeath · « **Reply #39 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 06:49:13 »

Quote from: nhwhaup;334746

So the sets come with 120 pads - so being a newbie and never having taken off a key - how many of these pads would I need for a 103 keyboard? Do any keys other than the space bar have multiple switches? Looks like with the 120 I should have extras and will be happy to mail you a couple of each. PM me your address.

103 as in a topre?

patrickgeekhack · « **Reply #40 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 12:59:22 »

I am curious. As time goes by and the material degrade, will not some of it get into the switch internal mechanism? We know Cherry switches can be very susceptible to dust.

RiGS · « **Reply #41 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 13:04:41 »

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We know Cherry switches can be very susceptible to dust.

Really? Do you have any reference to support that claim?

patrickgeekhack · « **Reply #42 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 13:12:48 »

Quote from: RiGS;334968

Really? Do you have any reference to support that claim?

I don't have to give any reference, if you have been here long enough, you'll know that this is common knowledge. But if you insist: http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:6300

Build Quality. Even though the Das is heavier the Filco is a solid chunk as well, especially for such a small keyboard. The matte finish on the Filco is even and quite nice whereas you can see some molding patterns on the side of the Das. Now that the firmware has been fixed on the Das I'd call it a draw (although save your receipt - by their nature mechanical switches are prone to dust/hair/contamination and Blue Cherries appear especially susceptible).

BucklingSpring · « **Reply #43 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 13:13:05 »

Quote from: patrickgeekhack;334963

I am curious. As time goes by and the material degrade, will not some of it get into the switch internal mechanism? We know Cherry switches can be very susceptible to dust.

I don't know about susceptibility but I was asking myself the same thing.

RiGS · « **Reply #44 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 13:39:20 »

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I don't have to give any reference, if you have been here long enough, you'll know that this is common knowledge. But if you insist: http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:6300

I have read the whole thread. There isn't anything about dust.

Thanks for wasting my time!

patrickgeekhack · « **Reply #45 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 13:46:55 »

Somewhere in the article you have this: "(although save your receipt - by their nature mechanical switches are prone to dust/hair/contamination and Blue Cherries appear especially susceptible)."

There have been some threads about dust/hair preventing a blue Cherry switch from clicking.

The Solutor · « **Reply #46 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 13:48:35 »

Quote from: BucklingSpring;334972

I don't know about susceptibility but I was asking myself the same thing.

It really depends on the material.

The black foam i used on my first test should be "mousse of caoutchouc" (natural rubber) so, it will likely degrade

The white one is LDPE and likely will last for ages.

That said most of the degradation in polymers is mainly due to the UV light and the underside of keycaps should be a pretty safe place.

So, I think that shouldn't be a major concern.

RiGS · « **Reply #47 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 14:03:46 »

This is hardly an evidence. It is a personal opinion of ripster.
Dust, hair or spooge are not even remotely the same.
You are supposed to clean your keyboards occasionally.
I harvested springs from a heavily used old g80 keyboard with cherry blue switches.
When I opened up the switch housing and looked inside, it was almost perfect.

patrickgeekhack · « **Reply #48 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 14:19:13 »

Quote from: RiGS;335007

This is hardly an evidence. It is a personal opinion of ripster.
Dust, hair or spooge are not even remotely the same.
You are supposed to clean your keyboards occasionally.
I harvested springs from a heavily used old g80 keyboard with cherry blue switches.
When I opened up the switch housing and looked inside, it was almost perfect.

I understand that. My original question was whether the pads would degrade and get into the switches. We don't have hard evidence most of the time, because we are not carrying highly controlled testing processes. Sometimes we think something caused something else on a keyboard, but it would well have been a coincidence. And since we don't have hard evidence, how can we know if these pads won't cause more harm than good? We just cannot know. Only time will tell.

RiGS · « **Reply #49 on:** Thu, 21 April 2011, 14:27:22 »

Quote from: patrickgeekhack;335013

I understand that. My original question was whether the pads would degrade and get into the switches. We don't have hard evidence most of the time, because we are not carrying highly controlled testing processes. Sometimes we think something caused something else on a keyboard, but it would well have been a coincidence. And since we don't have hard evidence, how can we know if these pads won't cause more harm than good? We just cannot know. Only time will tell.

I agree with you on that. I just questioned the "royal we" part of your original assumption.

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Author Topic: Silence!!! (Read 10963 times)