Author Topic: 10 bucks paypal to whoever can solve my problem (Read 8288 times)

eosgreen · « **on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:43:12 »

since i cant get any response 10 bucks for 1min of your time that you are wasting jacking off on the internet is a good deal

if you have my answer just add your paypal address or pm it and ill pay ya

im looking for a SKINNY not thick like most boards, keyboard with a flat layout
PREF red switches
sculpted keys
around 120 nothing higher

now im new to this **** so when i say skinny i mean from the ground to the top of the key not width we are talking z axis here

please post a link guys and i dont care WHAT the board is as long as its going to be more responsive them membrain keyboards... or similarly responsive to a cherry mx red

scissor switches i know nothing about so ill be bland

what is a good keyboard that is not membrain
is skinny z axis wise
is a flat key layout

noodles256 · « **Reply #1 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:45:55 »

skinny jeans

RColinTaylor · « **Reply #2 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:46:12 »

Well that new Cherry board would probably suffice for some of those requirements but what you are asking for is far from what other people want.

See Ripster about Supply and Demand.

eosgreen · « **Reply #3 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 18:55:39 »

supply and demand? does he buy all the worlds boards like the diamond companys lol? the cherry slim boards right?

the ones that run around 70 bucks?

duncan · « **Reply #4 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:00:29 »

If you don't get fixated on the mechanical switch idea then consider a scissor switch board.
Logitech make a few low-profile (which is what you mean by 'skinny') that have sculpted keys that get good reviews. There are many others too.
If low-profile matters then don't discount a good scissor switch option. Especially if you are interested in MX Red which are not much different in feel to a good SS in my experience except for key travel which you seem to not want if you want a low-profile board.

flyball · « **Reply #5 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:03:50 »

try rebooting

eosgreen · « **Reply #6 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:06:46 »

Quote from: ripster;439307

Keys are cylindrical. Keyboards have sculpted layouts.

This is about as flat as you're going to get.

Deck Tenkeyless (Black, not Red)
(Attachment Link) 29922[/ATTACH]

As you can see I consider truth worth more that 10 paypal bucks.

the keyboard im attempting to mimic is a logitech classic 200

i cant get as skinny as that? or even close?

eosgreen · « **Reply #7 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:07:21 »

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823333078

this is a board that claims its slim but that might mean width

eosgreen · « **Reply #8 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:08:56 »

Quote from: ripster;439307

Keys are cylindrical. Keyboards have sculpted layouts.

This is about as flat as you're going to get.

Deck Tenkeyless (Black, not Red)
(Attachment Link) 29922[/ATTACH]

As you can see I consider truth worth more that 10 paypal bucks.

do you by chance have a measurement of that? my height currently is around 3/4 an inch maybe a tad less

pitashen · « **Reply #9 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:09:06 »

i think cherry brand keyboards (the G80s) are pretty thin (for a mechanical keyboard)

Give us an example of thin in your mind.

RColinTaylor · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:10:17 »

Attempting to have a keyboard skinnier than most is foolish. A Cherry MX Switch is too large to achieve the paper-thin nature of a Scissor Switch.

eosgreen · « **Reply #11 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:11:15 »

Quote from: ripster;439313

How about $5 upfront to answer that?

er is that factual? thats the SKINNIEST board? im aware of the fact that the keyboards flat but it isnt fitting my skinny description req...

i know a good amount enough to make educated purchases on boards but i cant find pics of the sides of these boards to tell what the height is which is the only reason im really posting this

flyball · « **Reply #12 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:12:52 »

ml switches only come as tactile, so what you want doesn't exist.

eosgreen · « **Reply #13 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:13:26 »

Quote from: RColinTaylor;439317

Attempting to have a keyboard skinnier than most is foolish. A Cherry MX Switch is too large to achieve the paper-thin nature of a Scissor Switch.

ok i stand corrected im not educated on that type of switch enough to make an educated purchase

what is a scissor switch and how is its feel compared to say a cherry mx red?

and does this mean a board exists that will fit my specifications?

is a scissor switch a buckling spring switch?

oddsratio · « **Reply #14 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:13:57 »

You can always just take the board out of the casing and just stick the bare pcb on some kind of an insulated, plastic container/sheet.

I've actually thought that might be a cool look, kind of a poker design without that thick shell. But bare pcb, with low profile cherry co/ signature plastic keys are as thin as it's going to get. I would use a less expensive board to experiment with, though.

pitashen · « **Reply #15 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:14:08 »

Quote from: eosgreen;439318

er is that factual? thats the SKINNIEST board? im aware of the fact that the keyboards flat but it isnt fitting my skinny description req...

i know a good amount enough to make educated purchases on boards but i cant find pics of the sides of these boards to tell what the height is which is the only reason im really posting this

I would consider getting a wrist rest along with a mechanical keyboard instead of worrying too much about the thickness of the keyboard.

flyball · « **Reply #16 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:14:28 »

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RColinTaylor · « **Reply #17 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:14:30 »

Quote from: eosgreen;439322

ok i stand corrected im not educated on that type of switch enough to make an educated purchase

what is a scissor switch and how is its feel compared to say a cherry mx red?

Go to the Wiki on Mechanical Keyboards; a scissor switch is like ones found on Laptops, a MX Blue/Red/Black/Clear/Brown is found on golden boards of the gods.

eosgreen · « **Reply #18 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:19:19 »

Quote from: pitashen;439315

i think cherry brand keyboards (the G80s) are pretty thin (for a mechanical keyboard)

Give us an example of thin in your mind.

skinny in my mind is 3/4 an inch from the desk/ground up to the top of the keys which are ALL on the same plane aka a flat key layout

again i dont care WHAT board it is. the reason im buying a mech keyboard is that in sc2 my unit hotkeys are not always saving because im not crushing the dome keycap every press and it isnt recording my ctrl keypress. i need a board that doesnt have this problem aka a mechanical keyboard

eosgreen · « **Reply #19 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:20:57 »

Quote from: ripster;439328

For free I'll tell you my Filco is 1.5" at the highest point.

lol this is why im posting for 10 bucks because ppl here are kinda rude... i have looked all over and yes im aware all these boards are VERY thick. i dont know if a board even exists that is not a membrain keyboard and is not thick...

you know all about keyboards no doubt. i know nothing nearly so i could use some help thats all

pitashen · « **Reply #20 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:22:23 »

Quote from: eosgreen;439334

lol this is why im posting for 10 bucks because ppl here are kinda rude... i have looked all over and yes im aware all these boards are VERY thick. i dont know if a board even exists that is not a membrain keyboard and is not thick...

you know all about keyboards no doubt. i know nothing nearly so i could use some help thats all

Try one of those apple style scissor switch board.

eosgreen · « **Reply #21 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:22:42 »

Quote from: pitashen;439324

I would consider getting a wrist rest along with a mechanical keyboard instead of worrying too much about the thickness of the keyboard.

i have thought about that and i have one

problem is that the keyboard keys still slant and im very very ocd about my **** and cant deal with it

eosgreen · « **Reply #22 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:23:14 »

Quote from: pitashen;439335

Try one of those apple style scissor switch board.

idn what "those apple style are" pretend i know nothing about anything

link? exact name?

eosgreen · « **Reply #23 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:27:06 »

this has gota be an easy 10 bucks to someone who knows his way around keyboards... ANY board thats skinny around 3/4inch tall to anything a bit less then an inch for TOTAL thickness from key to bottom of board that has similar responsiveness to a mechanical board so that my keystrokes do not go missed during gaming...

flyball · « **Reply #24 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:27:11 »

Quote from: eosgreen;439337

idn what "those apple style are" pretend i know nothing about anything

link? exact name?

The Apple Keyboard

pitashen · « **Reply #25 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:31:42 »

Quote from: eosgreen;439338

this has gota be an easy 10 bucks to someone who knows his way around keyboards... ANY board thats skinny around 3/4inch tall to anything a bit less then an inch for TOTAL thickness from key to bottom of board that has similar responsiveness to a mechanical board so that my keystrokes do not go missed during gaming...

Not really. Coz chances there is no such board in the mechanical category. At least not for Cherry MX switches.

eosgreen · « **Reply #26 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:33:46 »

Quote from: pitashen;439349

Not really. Coz chances there is no such board in the mechanical category. At least not for Cherry MX switches.

idc about the switches man just as long as they are not membrain

they gota have a good response to them. im not talking about tactile response im talking about the fact that membrain keyboards need you to fully press them down to record the keystroke but mech ones dont that sort of response

eosgreen · « **Reply #27 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:38:06 »

i have read about scissor switch keys and i know what they are but what boards are using them that fit my reqs? it says it has a better response time to around 2mm while dome is 2.5 to 3.5 so it prob will fit my needs but again it says they dont make these for things usually other then built in things as you said laptops

anyone got some keyboards with scissor switch that fit my reqs?

jpc · « **Reply #28 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:40:31 »

Siig Minitouch with the tactile leaves pulled. Should be very similar to reds. Also meets the price constraint.

That's about as flat as you'll get with standard switches on a plate on a PCB. IIRC the keycaps are lowish profile.

eosgreen · « **Reply #29 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:41:48 »

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?9808-quot-Best-quot-scissor-switch-flat-keyboard/page3

ripster might end up getting the 10 without even posting the right answer on the topic... that logitech board looks identical to what i would want...

eosgreen · « **Reply #30 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:42:47 »

Quote from: jpc;439361

Siig Minitouch with the tactile leaves pulled. Should be very similar to reds. Also meets the price constraint.

That's about as flat as you'll get with standard switches on a plate on a PCB. IIRC the keycaps are lowish profile.

thats way to fat

pitashen · « **Reply #31 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:43:41 »

Quote from: eosgreen;439350

idc about the switches man just as long as they are not membrain

they gota have a good response to them. im not talking about tactile response im talking about the fact that membrain keyboards need you to fully press them down to record the keystroke but mech ones dont that sort of response

Try, something along the line of Apple keyboard (google it) or one of these

http://www.amazon.com/AZIO-KB503U-Full-Chiclet-Keyboard/dp/B004HFUVL2

think they are called chiclet keyboard.

GLHF

flyball · « **Reply #32 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:44:35 »

Quote from: eosgreen;439362

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?9808-quot-Best-quot-scissor-switch-flat-keyboard/page3

ripster might end up getting the 10 without even posting the right answer on the topic... that logitech board looks identical to what i would want...

all logitechs are membrane based keyboards.

pitashen · « **Reply #33 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:45:50 »

Quote from: eosgreen;439356

i have read about scissor switch keys and i know what they are but what boards are using them that fit my reqs? it says it has a better response time to around 2mm while dome is 2.5 to 3.5 so it prob will fit my needs but again it says they dont make these for things usually other then built in things as you said laptops

anyone got some keyboards with scissor switch that fit my reqs?

They are the best thing you can get next to the mechanical switches. I would give those a shot, since they are relatively cheaper.

pitashen · « **Reply #34 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:46:20 »

Quote from: flyball;439366

all logitechs are membrane based keyboards.

Logitech's higher end uses scissor switch of their own design.

duncan · « **Reply #35 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:50:30 »

Chiclet e keyboards (like the Apple ones) have flat keycaps.

Since you seem to have little ability to type a keyword into a search engine here's a link to the Logitech site.
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/keyboards/keyboards

Has the repeated explanations that what you are asking for (a MX based board that has a lower profile than a MX switch) means you are asking for the equivalent of the mailing address of the Tooth Fairy. It's not going to happen.

Take the hint. You are going to have to choose different criteria and not just wail "no-one is helping me. boo hoo"

Bry · « **Reply #36 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:52:51 »

Why would anyone want a skinny ass flat keyboard o_O

Just wondering what the appeal is, I honestly don't understand it.

duncan · « **Reply #37 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:53:11 »

Quote from: flyball;439366

all logitechs are membrane based keyboards.

Check facts before posting and the risk of embarrassing yourself is hugely reduced.

If you include SS boards as membrane boards you are technically incorrect.
If you don't realise Logitech make decent SS boards then your research is insufficient.

eosgreen · « **Reply #38 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:54:28 »

do i want higher travel distance for keys? scissor switches are 3.2mm and its saying that standard keyboards (membrain) are 2 mm

flyball · « **Reply #39 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:55:03 »

Quote from: duncan;439379

Check facts before posting and the risk of embarrassing yourself is hugely reduced.

If you include SS boards as membrane boards you are technically incorrect.
If you don't realise Logitech make decent SS boards then your research is insufficient.

Quote from: pitashen;439369

Logitech's higher end uses scissor switch of their own design.

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All+About+Scissor+Switches#How+A+Scissor+Switch+Works

eosgreen · « **Reply #40 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:58:16 »

Quote from: flyball;439384

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All+About+Scissor+Switches#How+A+Scissor+Switch+Works

both of u have huge epenis flyball is the man

o wdh you have to bottom out on a scissor switch also... wdh why did someone recommend scissor switch when i SAID it has to be similar to a mechanical switch...

flyball · « **Reply #41 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:59:22 »

Quote from: eosgreen;439386

both of u have huge epenis please just we are at the home stretch lol

what is the point of scissor switches having HIGHER travel time 3.2mm rather then standard 2.2?

idk but you already said you don't want a keyboard with switches that actuate at the bottom of the stroke, which is exactly what the scissor switches do.

duncan · « **Reply #42 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:59:23 »

Quote from: flyball;439384

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All+About+Scissor+Switches#How+A+Scissor+Switch+Works

Are you trying to claim that any board with a membrane is a membrane board?
If you are then think about the other boards with membranes that no sane and sober person would claim are "membrane" boards.

Again, a little research goes a long way.

In a Model M, the electrical contact is a membrane sheet similar to that of a modern dome switch keyboard. On the older Model F design, a capacitive contact was used instead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckling_spring

pitashen · « **Reply #43 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 19:59:27 »

Quote from: eosgreen;439334

lol this is why im posting for 10 bucks because ppl here are kinda rude...

No offense, but those coming here expecting to be spoon fed would usually be treated rather "rudely," Not because we don't want them here, but a lot of things can be figured out by going through the wiki. Except ripster, he is always nice to the noobs, and then half of them would end up hating him down the road.

flyball · « **Reply #44 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 20:01:52 »

Quote from: duncan;439388

Are you trying to claim that any board with a membrane is a membrane board?
If you are then think about the other boards with membranes that no sane and sober person would claim are "membrane" boards.

Again, a little research goes a long way.

In a Model M, the electrical contact is a membrane sheet similar to that of a modern dome switch keyboard. On the older Model F design, a capacitive contact was used instead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckling_spring

this discussion is about logitech keyboards.

duncan · « **Reply #45 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 20:02:44 »

What do you mean by 'the point' of the travel distance?

Are you asking about the technical design of the SS or assuming that every engineering decision is taken to increase your pleasure or something else.

Do you think maybe there is more mechanism in a SS that needs some space? Could that explain it? Are you really going to let a mm of travel distance stop you in your tracks?

pitashen · « **Reply #46 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 20:04:28 »

Quote from: duncan;439394

What do you mean by 'the point' of the travel distance?

Are you asking about the technical design of the SS or assuming that every engineering decision is taken to increase your pleasure or something else.

Do you think maybe there is more mechanism in a SS that needs some space? Could that explain it? Are you really going to let a mm of travel distance stop you in your tracks?

I smell derailing

duncan · « **Reply #47 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 20:05:24 »

Quote from: flyball;439392

this discussion is about logitech keyboards.

Yes and logitech make SS boards (as well as others).

And SS are NOT membrane boards.

I can see the connection between all these issues, can you not see the thread between what you are posting and what is being said to you? If not then take a deep breath, read the thread again and see if you can join the dots.

flyball · « **Reply #48 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 20:11:12 »

Quote from: duncan;439403

Yes and logitech make SS boards (as well as others).

And SS are NOT membrane boards.

I can see the connection between all these issues, can you not see the thread between what you are posting and what is being said to you? If not then take a deep breath, read the thread again and see if you can join the dots.

they use a membrane and work similarly to membrane keyboards. here's a link that says that scissor switches are a variation of the rubber dome scheme http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=START+HERE+--+The+Geekhack+Mechanical+Keyboard+Guide+-+Includes+Glossary+and+Links

eosgreen · « **Reply #49 on:** Tue, 25 October 2011, 20:11:25 »

Quote from: pitashen;439389

No offense, but those coming here expecting to be spoon fed would usually be treated rather "rudely," Not because we don't want them here, but a lot of things can be figured out by going through the wiki. Except ripster, he is always nice to the noobs, and then half of them would end up hating him down the road.

i personally came here when someone recommended it to me via OCN to learn about keyboards. when i knew nothing about computers OCN helped me and i in return have helped others

same here... i know nothing. in a month i will know a lot and be able to help others. if you are gonna be a **** about me not knowing anything then so be it... im even making your help worth the while slightly by adding a bit of cash...

there is nothing wrong with my method but in fact what is wrong is the perception of what is actually going on by you... i just need help you can give it or not but if you actually fix my problem u get 10 bucks. thats it dont read too much into it

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