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Offline JustCallMeCrash

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« on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 18:57:05 »
So I seem to be having phenomenal success with RIT dye on the keys and Duplicolor Vinyl and Fabric spray paint on the frames (and space bars).  Here's how I do it: (reposted from my entries on the RIT Dye wiki)

ORIGINAL: Alright, ladies and gents... I pulled the trigger. I took my Compaq 11800 and did a paint and dye job. I'm not completely done (local store didn't have one of the colors I was hoping to have), but it's very close.
Originally, this was a standard beige keyboard... fairly light, actually.

The keys took the dye REALLY well. My method: First, I cleaned the keys (which are all PBT) in a pot, covering them in 91% isopropyl alcohol, stirring with the chopsticks. I rinsed them with tap water and shook the excess water off before I started the rest. I wanted to make sure I got all the oils off before dying them. After that, start a pot (about 2 cups) of water on the stove, throw 1.5 cups water into the microwave for 3.5 min (bubbling), drop the dye into the microwaved water, mix with chopsticks to disolve, pour into hot (not boiling, but steaming) water in the pot, immediately dump keys in (NOTICE: I DID NOT USE ANY SALT IN MY SETS AT ALL). I set the timer on the microwave for 15 minutes, checking the color ever 15 seconds or so. The green took the color in 2.25 minutes! It got to the exact color I wanted... any more time and it would have been too dark. The brown took about 2.5 minutes to reach the desired chocolatey color. I used the chopsticks to check the color and to stir CONSTANTLY. Since I already knew they were where I wanted them (I was taking one out and dropping it in cold water every 15 seconds, after all), I just dumped the dye and all into a collander and rinsed them with cold tap water, stirring with the chopsticks, then with my hands to make sure to get all the dye off and stop the staining process. I like they way they turned out.

So I painted the space bar (it's ABS) and the case (also ABS) with DupliColor Fabric and Vinyl paint, which I got from an earlier post (thanks!). It soaks right into the plastic, so the overspray isn't a problem at all. I used Desert Sand for the case and Flat Black for the space, tenkey 0, tenkey enter and tenkey plus as well as the mouse buttons.
EDIT: I added these pictures and removed the others. I was finally able to get a decently close color match. The frame proved difficult, but that white sheet of paper helped me nail it down. The browns are very chocolatey, which may or may not come across here. /Edit.

The only thing I want to do now is the Esc, Insert (I type Dvorak, so CTRL-Insert/ Shift-Insert are my preferred copy-paste combo) and Pause/Break (I wanted a third key and it's spaced out enough to fit my need) keys in some vibrant shade... I was thinking either red (kinda standard, right?) or orange. I may even forgo the bright orange and go for a more burnt umber-type color. I'll mock it up in Gimp and see. So what do you think? I like the way it turned out. (for the record, no, I'm not a redneck and no, I wasn't going for a camo theme... the khaki and chocolate (and obviously black) bits will go well with yellow or orange keys in the body... I might even get by with some blues in there... I mostly wanted a sort of khaki-pants-this-goes-with-everything look.)
I'm happy with it, for sure.

SECOND ENTRY:  I did an overspray test on the bottom plate, to see what would happen if i tried to get it to run.... it wouldn't run. Oh, I'm sure I could have made it run, if I'd been stupid about it, but in a normal use case (like all those runs I get on every friggin piece of material I try to spray), it seems to just soak right in. The parts I sprayed with it also seem to have kept their original texture (much like the dyed keys). I'm not sure what property of the spray causes that, but it sure gives even results. Someone else on this thread suggested it, so I have to give them all the credit. You can find the stuff at Advanced Auto Parts and places like it. It's pretty expensive at almost $8/can, but the results are worth it IMO.
I forgot to mention in my op that I took a cotton ball and rubbed the entire frame down with 91% isopropyl before I sprayed it. I'm not sure if that opens up the plastic or what, but it sure didn't take any time for the keys to stain.
One more thing; I mentioned it earlier, and it's been covered exhaustively in this thread, but be sure that any keys you're going to drop into the dye are PBT and not ABS plastic (you should see them labeled on the non-visible sides) as the ABS has a very low melting point and WILL warp and break (see poor lam47's destroyed keys for examples). You may as well skip even trying with the larger pieces (spacebar and frame) as these seem to be made almost exclusively of ABS (and who has a pot big enough for a keyboard frame?? also, that may dilute the dye too much).
YMMV, but I got VERY even results with the alcohol pre-bath (maybe 45 seconds of agitation and then rinse them off). Best of luck to anybody else that wants to try.


FINAL: I followed the above described method again for keys from 3 different Cherry boards (all are interchangeable, one set from a MX 11900 board, 2 sets from Cherry MX 8000 POS boards.  I had a free weekend, so I took apart both of the POS boards and modded one to Ergo-Clears (the alpha-num-pad keys and a couple others), and modded my 11900 to Ghetto Reds (just the alpha-num-pad keys).  The donor board from which I pulled the Clear stems also donated its keycaps and a couple of switches (I damaged a couple on the 11900 and the POS Browns board) to the overall project.  I dyed one set RIT Scarlet (took the longest), one set RIT Royal Blue, one set RIT Navy Blue (watch these VERY closely... they came out Navy, but another 15 seconds and they would have been black) and I died all the relegendable keys RIT Black*.  
The 11900 frame I painted with Duplicolor Vinyl and Fabric spray, Silver.  Since I had two 8000 frames, I painted one flat black and the other I did a base-coat of flat black and stood back 3 feet to apply a spattered "starry sky" effect.  The space bars and mouse buttons on the touchpad were sprayed with Krylon Chrome spray paint... this proved to be a bad decision.  I found that by the end of the first DAY of use I had a spot where I'd rubbed through the chrome paint to the underlying flat black (the duplicolor).  I have a spare space bar that I'm going to wax with carnauba to see if that helps prevent abrasion.  If that's not a better solution, I'll scrub it and repaint with some other color.
Now for some pictures.  I set it up such that I can swap all the colors around into any combo I want.  I started out with a Captain America theme, Navy and Red, and Spiderman theme, Royal Blue and Red.  Then I got bored with that and moved all the red keys to the 11900 (get it? Ghetto Reds... sorry...) and had alternating blues on the Ergo Clears board.  I got tired of that pretty quickly, too.  When I was pulling keys to die the various colors, I threw some of the modifier keys into red and some into navy blue, but not into royal.  I think it looks striking with the red modifiers.  Also included are two PBT keys that came from the factory red to show the results.
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*As it turned out, the relegendable keys are ABS and warped up a good bit... I managed to scrounge a whole set, but only barely.  I should have just left them the dark grey they turned after about 2 minutes... 3 minutes proved too much.
ErgoDoxen 6 total: Cherry MX Browns, Cherry MX Clears, NovelKeys Box Royal, 80g Gateron Yellows, NovelKeys Pale Blues, NovelKeys Box Navy.
Preonic 2 total: OG Gateron Yellows (GMK silencer clips), TBD (unassembled v2).
XD-75 (mixed Gateron Yellows, MX Blacks, MX Clears on layer toggles).
Das S Professional (was MX Blues, now Ghetto Reds).
G80-11900.
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« Reply #1 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 19:12:35 »
Do you work in a cube? I bet the guy in the next cube over from you needs to wear sunglasses! Those colors are very bright and rich, not subtle at all.  :)

Between the Rit and Dupli-Color, which color tones do you prefer? Or are they about the same? Do you still see 'through' the Dupli-Color?
« Last Edit: Sun, 14 August 2011, 19:17:54 by input nirvana »
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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 19:16:57 »
RIT is the dye.  Duplicolor is what I used for the cases.  Since the frames are ABS, you have to paint them and not dye them... they'll melt.
I do work in a cube, but the lady next to me thinks they look pretty good.  She'd way rather I have those there than my SIIG or my DAS, both of which are clicky.
ErgoDoxen 6 total: Cherry MX Browns, Cherry MX Clears, NovelKeys Box Royal, 80g Gateron Yellows, NovelKeys Pale Blues, NovelKeys Box Navy.
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XD-75 (mixed Gateron Yellows, MX Blacks, MX Clears on layer toggles).
Das S Professional (was MX Blues, now Ghetto Reds).
G80-11900.
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« Reply #3 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 19:28:25 »
But you used Duplicolor on the spacebar before painting it chrome? Did you see through it like stain, or is it still fully pigmented like paint?
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« Reply #4 on: Sun, 14 August 2011, 19:58:50 »
Oh, the spacebars are painted, like you mentioned... I used the flat black more as a primer than anything.  I GUESS it soaks into the plastic... I sprayed the spacer on my 11800 from the previous RIT mod and it still looks great after a couple months usage.
ErgoDoxen 6 total: Cherry MX Browns, Cherry MX Clears, NovelKeys Box Royal, 80g Gateron Yellows, NovelKeys Pale Blues, NovelKeys Box Navy.
Preonic 2 total: OG Gateron Yellows (GMK silencer clips), TBD (unassembled v2).
XD-75 (mixed Gateron Yellows, MX Blacks, MX Clears on layer toggles).
Das S Professional (was MX Blues, now Ghetto Reds).
G80-11900.
ML-4400 (2x) Cherry MY boards.

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« Reply #5 on: Mon, 15 August 2011, 09:05:56 »
Quote from: input nirvana;398953
But you used Duplicolor on the spacebar before painting it chrome? Did you see through it like stain, or is it still fully pigmented like paint?

 
Duplicolor is opaque.

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« Reply #6 on: Mon, 15 August 2011, 10:42:30 »
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Duplicolor is opaque.
That's correct.  Thanks for clarifying... I guess I wasn't quite sure what he was asking.
ErgoDoxen 6 total: Cherry MX Browns, Cherry MX Clears, NovelKeys Box Royal, 80g Gateron Yellows, NovelKeys Pale Blues, NovelKeys Box Navy.
Preonic 2 total: OG Gateron Yellows (GMK silencer clips), TBD (unassembled v2).
XD-75 (mixed Gateron Yellows, MX Blacks, MX Clears on layer toggles).
Das S Professional (was MX Blues, now Ghetto Reds).
G80-11900.
ML-4400 (2x) Cherry MY boards.

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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 15 August 2011, 11:24:44 »
Thanks, I went the the Duplicolor website and was unable to find that info. It certainly makes sense that it's translucent/opaque.

Your Cherry keycaps take the rit dye very well. It seems very even and vibrant. Plus, it's a great color combo.
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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 18 August 2011, 03:30:47 »
Woah... I lost a couple days there.  Thanks for the feedback and the compliments.  Kinda sucks that I posted on or around the same day that turbocharged resurrected his RIT dye mod entry.  I never even saw that one before I tried it.... I did read the whole iMav RIT Dye and Keys post, though.
ErgoDoxen 6 total: Cherry MX Browns, Cherry MX Clears, NovelKeys Box Royal, 80g Gateron Yellows, NovelKeys Pale Blues, NovelKeys Box Navy.
Preonic 2 total: OG Gateron Yellows (GMK silencer clips), TBD (unassembled v2).
XD-75 (mixed Gateron Yellows, MX Blacks, MX Clears on layer toggles).
Das S Professional (was MX Blues, now Ghetto Reds).
G80-11900.
ML-4400 (2x) Cherry MY boards.

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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 10:26:20 »
YO!!!
How's that Duplicolor holding up? Any wear? If so, what type? Any thoughts/ovservations after a couple months of use?
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« Reply #10 on: Tue, 25 October 2011, 13:37:42 »
Looking at the Navy blue keys right now (my daily driver) and I see zero signs of wear.  Color is still rich and the texture has held up well.  The spacebar has run through to the Duplicolor coat (I had put some other brand of "Chrome" paint on it that wore off pretty quickly... it's meant for metal, after all), but that's not a problem as I'll probably go to black before long.  I had good luck with a paint mod in the past (on a MS Natual board) by using Carnauba wax... definitely time consuming, but it protected the paint for great spans of time.
ErgoDoxen 6 total: Cherry MX Browns, Cherry MX Clears, NovelKeys Box Royal, 80g Gateron Yellows, NovelKeys Pale Blues, NovelKeys Box Navy.
Preonic 2 total: OG Gateron Yellows (GMK silencer clips), TBD (unassembled v2).
XD-75 (mixed Gateron Yellows, MX Blacks, MX Clears on layer toggles).
Das S Professional (was MX Blues, now Ghetto Reds).
G80-11900.
ML-4400 (2x) Cherry MY boards.

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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 04 November 2011, 07:27:57 »
Would I need to clean my keys (I initially typed eyes, lack of sleep + mind that's been mangled by SQL and Enterprise Vault all week. -_-) up before I did this? Just I'm looking at getting a piss coloured Compaq off eBay, and I really wanna get the caps cleaned up, but can't be fecked with all the cleaning involved... So I was hoping that if I used a dark RIT dye (say, black..) it should do the trick? Plus, I wanted to paint the frame black too, would this just be a case of getting a tin of hobbycraft acryllic spray (kinda **** I used to use on RC cars and such) and giving it a couple of coats?
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« Reply #12 on: Thu, 15 December 2011, 08:22:22 »
Quote from: rich0d;445381
Would I need to clean my keys (I initially typed eyes, lack of sleep + mind that's been mangled by SQL and Enterprise Vault all week. -_-) up before I did this? Just I'm looking at getting a piss coloured Compaq off eBay, and I really wanna get the caps cleaned up, but can't be fecked with all the cleaning involved... So I was hoping that if I used a dark RIT dye (say, black..) it should do the trick? Plus, I wanted to paint the frame black too, would this just be a case of getting a tin of hobbycraft acryllic spray (kinda **** I used to use on RC cars and such) and giving it a couple of coats?

I just did see your question, sorry for the delay.  You will definitely want to clean the oils off the keys and the case... not sure how it would affect the dye, but the paint will definitely suffer if you don't clean it properly first.
ErgoDoxen 6 total: Cherry MX Browns, Cherry MX Clears, NovelKeys Box Royal, 80g Gateron Yellows, NovelKeys Pale Blues, NovelKeys Box Navy.
Preonic 2 total: OG Gateron Yellows (GMK silencer clips), TBD (unassembled v2).
XD-75 (mixed Gateron Yellows, MX Blacks, MX Clears on layer toggles).
Das S Professional (was MX Blues, now Ghetto Reds).
G80-11900.
ML-4400 (2x) Cherry MY boards.

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 15 December 2011, 08:34:24 »
Look awesome, and still no signs of it rubbing off or whatnot?

Think I might give this a go with my ducky PBT set.
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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 15 December 2011, 15:10:28 »
All the sets I've run are still looking great.  Best of luck... it's easy, really, as long as you follow the directions.
ErgoDoxen 6 total: Cherry MX Browns, Cherry MX Clears, NovelKeys Box Royal, 80g Gateron Yellows, NovelKeys Pale Blues, NovelKeys Box Navy.
Preonic 2 total: OG Gateron Yellows (GMK silencer clips), TBD (unassembled v2).
XD-75 (mixed Gateron Yellows, MX Blacks, MX Clears on layer toggles).
Das S Professional (was MX Blues, now Ghetto Reds).
G80-11900.
ML-4400 (2x) Cherry MY boards.