Mega Keyboard Sound Roundup - Discussion Page 2

ripster · 15 September 2009

Yeah, but I tend to bottom out everything - even Buckling Springs. I don't really worry about it. I think it's a overrated thing to be concerned about. You never heard speed Selectric typists talking about bottoming out as they whirred at 120WPM.

yode · 15 September 2009

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Originally Posted by ripster

Yeah, but I tend to bottom out everything - even Buckling Springs. I don't really worry about it. I think it's a overrated thing to be concerned about. You never heard speed Selectric typists talking about bottoming out as they whirred at 120WPM.

hmm ok. I've just heard that with browns you have to train to not bottom them out if you wanna type faster. Anyway, with the blues, you bottom them out too? Doesn't the tactile click make it easy to not bottom out?

ripster · 15 September 2009

Yes, the click makes it easier to not bottom out and the 5g of force difference makes a difference as well. If typing faster is your goal I really like the Cherry Blues - they want me want to go faster whereas the Model M Buckling Spring takes more concentration.

rdjack21 · 15 September 2009

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Originally Posted by ripster

the Model M Buckling Spring takes more concentration.

You know I've been thinking about how I feel about this little short throw Topre I'm typing on now. I like the feel but like you and the Buckling Spring it takes a little more concentration to type on. Mostly because it requires slightly more force and the actuation point is different than my other Topre boards.

yode · 15 September 2009

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Originally Posted by ripster

Yes, the click makes it easier to not bottom out and the 5g of force difference makes a difference as well. If typing faster is your goal I really like the Cherry Blues - they want me want to go faster whereas the Model M Buckling Spring takes more concentration.

So I know that you like the blues, but with the browns, what makes it harder to type as fast as the blues?

ripster · 15 September 2009

You just have less feedback from the browns. And I wouldn't word it as "harder to type as fast". I'd just say I prefer the Blues cause they go click and have more tactile feedback. The browns are pretty boring in comparison but lighter. Both are fine switches but clearly more people went for the Blues in the "What Is Your Favorite Switch Poll".

yode · 15 September 2009

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Originally Posted by ripster

You just have less feedback from the browns. And I wouldn't word it as "harder to type as fast". I'd just say I prefer the Blues cause they go click and have more tactile feedback. The browns are pretty boring in comparison but lighter. Both are fine switches but clearly more people went for the Blues in the "What Is Your Favorite Switch Poll".

Oh I see. Well now all I have to do is wait for the filco tenkeyless to be available for preorder :) I was thinking of picking up the browns because I couldn't wait that long, but maybe I'll just have to hold out.

itlnstln · 15 September 2009

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Originally Posted by yode

hmm ok. I've just heard that with browns you have to train to not bottom them out if you wanna type faster.

No. Bottoming out is just stress on you hands. The idea is to prevent slamming your fingers into the 'board while typing to reduce injury. You can type as fast as you want on any keyboard and still bottom out. I don't bottom out as much on my Cherry browns, but I still do from time to time. Especially, when I am upset at work. ;)

ripster · 03 December 2009

Added the Model F to the last set of sound samples here.

Computer-Lab in Basement · 05 December 2009

Very nice sounds, the Model F sounds like your using a hammer and nails to type with.

ripster · 05 December 2009

Yeah, here's another sound analogy.

Although the F is definitely heading into ALPS territory.

Computer-Lab in Basement · 06 December 2009

Again with the Legos? What would you do if every single Lego in the world was melted down due to a plastic shortage?

elservo · 15 January 2010

I just love how he used a label maker to mark the blocks. Dude has Lego Passion.

iMav · 12 April 2010

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Originally Posted by itlnstln

No. Bottoming out is just stress on you hands. The idea is to prevent slamming your fingers into the 'board while typing to reduce injury.

It is not necessary to eliminate bottoming out all together...you are still getting benefit as long as you aren't slamming your fingers, full force, to the bottom. Tactile (and audible) feedback allow you to recognize that the key has been actuated and to, at the very least, start letting up on the key. Touching bottom is fine...reducing trauma caused by full force bottoming out is the key benefit.

BTW, it might be a good idea to move all the audio samples to the article (first post) to avoid confusion.

ripster · 12 April 2010

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BTW, it might be a good idea to move all the audio samples to the article (first post) to avoid confusion.

It was a forum limitation at the time it was created. I won't mention whose fault that was.

15 September 2009	#16
ripster Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ugly American Comments: 18,279	Yeah, but I tend to bottom out everything - even Buckling Springs. I don't really worry about it. I think it's a overrated thing to be concerned about. You never heard speed Selectric typists talking about bottoming out as they whirred at 120WPM. ________________ (ordered by current faves) Filco Blue Cherry Tenkeyless - IBM Model M Space SavING Keyboard (mini) - Modded Realforce 87U - Filco Brown Cherry Tenkeyless - Unicomp Space SavER with black key/red led mod - IBM Model M 1391401 - IBM Model F AT - Model M 1397000 - IBM Model M13 - IBM M4 - Chicony 5181 (Montereys) - Anything with ALPS (Focus 2001,SGI Granite,Apple AEKII, ALPS MCL-101,NeXT) - OTHER STUFF: Kinesis Keypad - the ALPSulator - CH DT225 Trackball - CST LaserTrac Trackball - Evoluent mouse - Balls Of Steel - IBM Selectric, The Ultimate Gaming Device: Cherry Modded Nostromo N52

15 September 2009	#18
ripster Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ugly American Comments: 18,279	Yes, the click makes it easier to not bottom out and the 5g of force difference makes a difference as well. If typing faster is your goal I really like the Cherry Blues - they want me want to go faster whereas the Model M Buckling Spring takes more concentration. ________________ (ordered by current faves) Filco Blue Cherry Tenkeyless - IBM Model M Space SavING Keyboard (mini) - Modded Realforce 87U - Filco Brown Cherry Tenkeyless - Unicomp Space SavER with black key/red led mod - IBM Model M 1391401 - IBM Model F AT - Model M 1397000 - IBM Model M13 - IBM M4 - Chicony 5181 (Montereys) - Anything with ALPS (Focus 2001,SGI Granite,Apple AEKII, ALPS MCL-101,NeXT) - OTHER STUFF: Kinesis Keypad - the ALPSulator - CH DT225 Trackball - CST LaserTrac Trackball - Evoluent mouse - Balls Of Steel - IBM Selectric, The Ultimate Gaming Device: Cherry Modded Nostromo N52

15 September 2009	#21
ripster Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ugly American Comments: 18,279	You just have less feedback from the browns. And I wouldn't word it as "harder to type as fast". I'd just say I prefer the Blues cause they go click and have more tactile feedback. The browns are pretty boring in comparison but lighter. Both are fine switches but clearly more people went for the Blues in the "What Is Your Favorite Switch Poll". ________________ (ordered by current faves) Filco Blue Cherry Tenkeyless - IBM Model M Space SavING Keyboard (mini) - Modded Realforce 87U - Filco Brown Cherry Tenkeyless - Unicomp Space SavER with black key/red led mod - IBM Model M 1391401 - IBM Model F AT - Model M 1397000 - IBM Model M13 - IBM M4 - Chicony 5181 (Montereys) - Anything with ALPS (Focus 2001,SGI Granite,Apple AEKII, ALPS MCL-101,NeXT) - OTHER STUFF: Kinesis Keypad - the ALPSulator - CH DT225 Trackball - CST LaserTrac Trackball - Evoluent mouse - Balls Of Steel - IBM Selectric, The Ultimate Gaming Device: Cherry Modded Nostromo N52

03 December 2009	#24
ripster Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ugly American Comments: 18,279	Added the Model F to the last set of sound samples here. ________________ (ordered by current faves) Filco Blue Cherry Tenkeyless - IBM Model M Space SavING Keyboard (mini) - Modded Realforce 87U - Filco Brown Cherry Tenkeyless - Unicomp Space SavER with black key/red led mod - IBM Model M 1391401 - IBM Model F AT - Model M 1397000 - IBM Model M13 - IBM M4 - Chicony 5181 (Montereys) - Anything with ALPS (Focus 2001,SGI Granite,Apple AEKII, ALPS MCL-101,NeXT) - OTHER STUFF: Kinesis Keypad - the ALPSulator - CH DT225 Trackball - CST LaserTrac Trackball - Evoluent mouse - Balls Of Steel - IBM Selectric, The Ultimate Gaming Device: Cherry Modded Nostromo N52

05 December 2009	#25
Computer-Lab in Basement Senior Member Mini-Putt 3: Jarrassic Park Champion! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the basement, USA Comments: 717	Very nice sounds, the Model F sounds like your using a hammer and nails to type with. ________________ My Most Interesting Keyboards: ~2006 Unicomp On-the-Ball 25mm Tracking Ball rubber dome ~1994 IBM M4-1 TrackPoint "Space Saver" rubber sleeves ~1989 IBM Model M 1391401 buckling spring ~Chicony KB-5161 complicated white alps ~Compaq MX 11800 brown Cherries.

06 December 2009	#27
Computer-Lab in Basement Senior Member Mini-Putt 3: Jarrassic Park Champion! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In the basement, USA Comments: 717	Again with the Legos? What would you do if every single Lego in the world was melted down due to a plastic shortage? ________________ My Most Interesting Keyboards: ~2006 Unicomp On-the-Ball 25mm Tracking Ball rubber dome ~1994 IBM M4-1 TrackPoint "Space Saver" rubber sleeves ~1989 IBM Model M 1391401 buckling spring ~Chicony KB-5161 complicated white alps ~Compaq MX 11800 brown Cherries.

15 January 2010	#28
elservo Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ocean City, Maryland Comments: 227	I just love how he used a label maker to mark the blocks. Dude has Lego Passion. Last edited by elservo; 16 January 2010 at 00:21.