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Offline Ramiel

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[IC] Haskell 87 (formerly custom rubber dome)
« on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:05:04 »
Hey guys, I just designed a housing for Niz keyboards. Niz keyboards are Topre-like but have MX compatible sliders, if you didn't know. The prototype looks AMAZING to me. There're still some minor problems but I can't wait to share the photos with you.

I harvest most of the parts from a Niz TKL RGB keyboard including the PCB, sliders, slider housings, springs, controller. Then I designed a housing with a custom top-mounted plate.











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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:05:31 »








MacBook style rubber feet



Niz keyboard controller



The main controller is connected with a custom PCB with USB C female connector

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:05:47 »


Niz TKL keyboard PCB





Rubber domes I bought from Niz







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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:10:20 »
Damn


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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:10:49 »
ok dis hard

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:11:45 »
wow im very interested in this! was about to order a Archon RE:AL SUPERIOR EX, do you have any experience so you could compare this to yours?

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:17:39 »
Any chance for other layouts for the bottom row?

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:19:16 »
wow im very interested in this! was about to order a Archon RE:AL SUPERIOR EX, do you have any experience so you could compare this to yours?

I was very interested in that board as well. Didn't get a chance to buy one tho. That keyboard uses the same sliders so I guess they should be similar.

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:21:13 »
wow im very interested in this! was about to order a Archon RE:AL SUPERIOR EX, do you have any experience so you could compare this to yours?

I was very interested in that board as well. Didn't get a chance to buy one tho. That keyboard uses the same sliders so I guess they should be similar.

super! i definitely am down for 1 of your custom design, it looks much better than the silver Archon that is available on amazon.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:24:15 »
This is really cool! Are you thinking of making more and selling them? (ah wait, this is in the interest check section  :p )
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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:28:07 »
Any chance for other layouts for the bottom row?

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Unlike MX switch or even ALPS switch keyboards, an EC keyboard PCB can only support a single layout. I think other layouts, say WKL layout, can only be supported by another newly designed PCB from Niz. That's not impossible according to the good experiences I spoke with Niz. 

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:31:42 »
This is really cool! Are you thinking of making more and selling them? (ah wait, this is in the interest check section  :p )

Yes, this is a project I've been working for a while. Would like to launch a GB for it if there're enough interests. I also discussed with Niz about the availability of Niz keyboard parts. They agreed to provide the parts I need in low MOQ. I haven't asked for a quote tho.

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:35:13 »
That looks amazing. Can you comment a bit on the feel of the niz switches?

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 08:39:53 »
That looks amazing. Can you comment a bit on the feel of the niz switches?

The default 35g domes are way too light for me. The 50g domes feel much better. I lubed all the sliders and housings with dry lube. They are pretty similar to Realforce 55g domes. I like the 50g Niz domes more than BKE Redux light. BKE Redux domes are too sharp for me.

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 09:50:20 »
Gorgeous!  And that's coming from someone with an Archon RE:AL Superior.  When's the GB?  ;)

NiZ decks are fantastic IMO when you dome-swap.  With the sheets that they offer (or even eBay choices) they can really feel great.  I use 65g sheet in my Archon right now, and I've used BKE's in there before.  I prefer the 65g at the moment.

Edit:  My only request would be to have a cherry stab solution instead of Costar style stabs.  Granted it would still be plate-mount, but those of us who prefer one over the other would love this.
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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 09:58:39 »
Do you know if topre sliders and domes would work with this case and pcb?

I would also like a sound demo
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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 10:20:31 »
Awesome looking board, look like these would work with topre/NT too?



...Also is that PBT Muted I see??  :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 10:22:46 »
I dont see why Topre domes/sliders would be an issue at all, but you wouldnt be able to use the entire Topre switch housing itself on some switches; namely the stabilized keys.
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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 10:23:14 »

Edit:  My only request would be to have a cherry stab solution instead of Costar style stabs.  Granted it would still be plate-mount, but those of us who prefer one over the other would love this.

I like costar stabs better but plate-mount Cherry stabs are feasible

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 10:32:08 »
Do you know if topre sliders and domes would work with this case and pcb?

I would also like a sound demo

I've never tested but they are mostly compatible according to Niz. Keys larger than 1u are not compatible.

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 10:35:54 »

Edit:  My only request would be to have a cherry stab solution instead of Costar style stabs.  Granted it would still be plate-mount, but those of us who prefer one over the other would love this.

I like costar stabs better but plate-mount Cherry stabs are feasible

Side note, love your stuff man great looking cases and your boards have come out really well! Would love to get a custom from you someday!
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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 10:36:52 »
Awesome looking board, look like these would work with topre/NT too?

...Also is that PBT Muted I see??  :eek: :eek: :eek:

Sliders and housings are possibly compatible. never tried to support Topre parts because there are already several other projects doing that.

Yes, that's a dye sub pbt set.

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 10:42:50 »
I like costar stabs better but plate-mount Cherry stabs are feasible

Sounds great! 

Side note, love your stuff man great looking cases and your boards have come out really well! Would love to get a custom from you someday!

Wow, very kind of you to say!  Thanks man.  It's appreciated.  :)

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 10:49:12 »
Very interested! Nice work

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 11:57:46 »
This looks amazing. Id definitely prefer cherry stabs as well. Looking forward to this going to GB!

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 12:54:08 »
Lets gooooo!!Interested

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 13:22:02 »
I feel funny

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 13:57:32 »
It looks good.  The feedback I have is related to the design of the front bezel.  I feel like the darker bezel looks cool by itself, but b/c it is centered on the board and the space bar is not, it throws the design off balance a bit.  Maybe it's just the accented space bar color throwing me off. Not sure.

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 15:33:03 »
Would you consider a case for the niz 75?

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 13 July 2018, 19:00:52 »
Very interested as well! :]

How are Niz domes compared to Topre domes?
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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #30 on: Sat, 14 July 2018, 00:12:37 »
Oh My God. This is so beautiful. Nice work! :thumb:
make it better!

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 14 July 2018, 11:27:53 »
Do BKE domes work? From reading the thread think they do, but not 100% sure so wanna ask.

👀excite

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 14 July 2018, 13:35:55 »
Hello, please give me this. Terrific, thanks.

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 14 July 2018, 17:26:03 »
Do BKE domes work? From reading the thread think they do, but not 100% sure so wanna ask.

👀excite

I've heard that they work but I do not have a Niz board myself.
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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 14 July 2018, 20:47:19 »
Yes plz. Gonna make me buy a Plum87 again, haha.

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 15 July 2018, 07:13:36 »
Do BKE domes work? From reading the thread think they do, but not 100% sure so wanna ask.

👀excite

Yes, I tested BKE domes on Niz75 and Niz87. The BKE domes work without any problems. I'm using 50g Niz domes right now because the tactility of BKE domes is too sharp for me.

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 15 July 2018, 07:18:08 »
Yes plz. Gonna make me buy a Plum87 again, haha.

You don't need to buy a Plum87 if want to join a future GB of this kit. It's a waste to buy a Plum 87 then throw away the case, plate, and keycaps. I've contacted Plum/Niz. They can provide all the parts I need.

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 15 July 2018, 08:57:36 »
Yes plz. Gonna make me buy a Plum87 again, haha.

You don't need to buy a Plum87 if want to join a future GB of this kit. It's a waste to buy a Plum 87 then throw away the case, plate, and keycaps. I've contacted Plum/Niz. They can provide all the parts I need.
Case for the plum75?

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 16 July 2018, 01:57:03 »
How likely is it to see a GB for your design?

Also, could you provide a typing test video?

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 19 July 2018, 01:12:48 »
Nice, I'm interested. Would buy

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 19 July 2018, 01:40:04 »
Would be interested in a WKL / Split backspace version :)

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 19 July 2018, 02:00:06 »
Would be interested in a WKL / Split backspace version :)

not sure if the split backspace would be possible since it's going to use the niz 87 guts

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 19 July 2018, 03:43:45 »
Would international shipping be available?
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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 19 July 2018, 21:08:32 »
A Nopoo custom! Glad to see this.
Is the stabilizer of your new MK the same as that of Plum NIZ?
If so, could it be possible to change it into cherry stabilizer?

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 19 July 2018, 21:42:37 »
Case design looking very cool, I like the insert on the front.

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 19 July 2018, 23:23:23 »
Would be interested in a WKL / Split backspace version :)

I’d also be interested in a WKL version
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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 19 July 2018, 23:23:58 »
Would be interested in a WKL / Split backspace version :)

I think NiZ atom 66 should be able to do that with programmable function
but I can't try it out since I don't own one  :(
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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #47 on: Sat, 21 July 2018, 15:49:56 »
Yes, I'd be very interested

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 04 August 2018, 16:42:34 »
I support this

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Re: [IC] Custom Rubber Dome
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 13 August 2018, 09:58:24 »
any update on this project?  :)