[IC] ePBT Royal Alpha

[Mcnos]

I just want more ePBT. I'm down

[azulyf]

Any update on this?

[donutcat]

Hello and welcome back to the adventure that has been getting this set to happen. I'm starting this train back up since I finally got the motivation to try contacting the right people about it. Ten minutes talking with Wei from KBDFans and I'm already closer to getting info on getting this set into GB than I ever was from emailing ePBT directly. I find that odd, but c'est la vie you know. Now that this is slightly moving again, I figure it's time to pull up the mockup I just gave Wei and let people go over it to see if there's anything I missed. It's been a long time since I touched this set and I don't remember at all where I left off with the design.


Base Kit - I know I need to change the LOCK sublegend on the 1u Ctrl to Lock to match the others.


Intl Kit - I do remember this took quite some time of me looking up the different ISO layouts and trying to cram compatibility for a good amount of them into a single kit without making it too big/ expensive. I'm not even sure yet if they're willing to do this kit but I gave it to Wei for quoting, so might as well make sure it's up to snuff.

Let me know if you see anything that you think needs changing.

[soilheart]

Looks like the version based on my suggestions (which makes sense as the straw poll seems to lean towards functional instead of using the royal alpha legends). So to me it looks good

The intl kit should also be doable, I think I paid 16.5 for my intl kit for the BoW set on kbdfans (not that it matters much to me personally, as I'm mostly interested in the base us intl layout . )

[macclack]

Hello and welcome back to the adventure that has been getting this set to happen. I'm starting this train back up since I finally got the motivation to try contacting the right people about it. Ten minutes talking with Wei from KBDFans and I'm already closer to getting info on getting this set into GB than I ever was from emailing ePBT directly. I find that odd, but c'est la vie you know. Now that this is slightly moving again, I figure it's time to pull up the mockup I just gave Wei and let people go over it to see if there's anything I missed. It's been a long time since I touched this set and I don't remember at all where I left off with the design.

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Base Kit - I know I need to change the LOCK sublegend on the 1u Ctrl to Lock to match the others.

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Intl Kit - I do remember this took quite some time of me looking up the different ISO layouts and trying to cram compatibility for a good amount of them into a single kit without making it too big/ expensive. I'm not even sure yet if they're willing to do this kit but I gave it to Wei for quoting, so might as well make sure it's up to snuff.

Let me know if you see anything that you think needs changing.

This is fantastic news. Was really hoping this would get resurrected. What about offering a green spacebar option, or even some green blank modifiers?   

[donutcat]

Some good news, I've already heard back from Wei about the MOQ and pricing of the kits. MOQ for both Base and Intl kit will be 100 units each. Pricing I'm not going to say quite yet since it's subject to change if any modifications are made to the kit contents, but I will say that the original numbers I gave for the set here when it wasn't ePBT yet are closer than I would have expected them to be, so that's good news. I'll be looking at feedback from this and the KT thread while I'm waiting for samples and see what needs to be adjusted before moving on. I'm excited that this is finally moving off the ground now that I finally went to Wei about it, Wei for MVP.

[The_judge_168]

Good to see this is happening!

[LightningXI]

Some good news, I've already heard back from Wei about the MOQ and pricing of the kits. MOQ for both Base and Intl kit will be 100 units each. Pricing I'm not going to say quite yet since it's subject to change if any modifications are made to the kit contents, but I will say that the original numbers I gave for the set here when it wasn't ePBT yet are closer than I would have expected them to be, so that's good news. I'll be looking at feedback from this and the KT thread while I'm waiting for samples and see what needs to be adjusted before moving on. I'm excited that this is finally moving off the ground now that I finally went to Wei about it, Wei for MVP.

Wei knows da Wei.

Wei 2020: Wei to the Presidency

[coffeeshopcoder]

Looking good. Can't refuse at this price.
One question
 - would you consider an accent enter and ESC key ?
I know it's harder since it's dyesubbed, and I don't know if epbt does all over dyesubing, but some thing like the bright green key and dark green legends maybe?

I know you already said you have reached the limit to keep cost down, very important, I thought it doesn't hurt to ask.

[donutcat]

Looking good. Can't refuse at this price.
One question
 - would you consider an accent enter and ESC key ?
I know it's harder since it's dyesubbed, and I don't know if epbt does all over dyesubing, but some thing like the bright green key and dark green legends maybe?

I know you already said you have reached the limit to keep cost down, very important, I thought it doesn't hurt to ask.

Unfortunately ePBT doesn't do all-over/reverse dyesub, so this isn't an option coming from them. If there was interest for that then our options would be a separate accent pack from another dyesubber or even GMK.

[laserbeamspewpew]

Any updates?

[asury]

Really hope that this GB will happen (soon) 

[donutcat]

Small update, a sample is currently in production and they expect it finished next week.

[phatty]

I can't wait to see more on this.

Do EPBT still do colourful mods that I can pick up and pair with this?

Regardless, I missed out on GMK Royal Alphas, so I'll be keen for this. Especially as it's ePBT

[ejewell89]

putting myself down as interested in this as well lol

[donutcat]

Small update, I'm now working with gok to make sure the legends for this set are going to be spot on. This may increase the time until production, but I think perfecting the legends is well worth it.

[yap68]

Really hoping for green accent and spacebar kits

[laserbeamspewpew]

Really hoping for green accent and spacebar kits

I think some green blanks would be nice and doable in PBT.

[laserbeamspewpew]

This would look great on a green Tofu.

[donutcat]

Really hoping for green accent and spacebar kits

I think some green blanks would be nice and doable in PBT.

The thing about that would be A) I think just blanks would be a half-baked solution, and B) adding another color of plastic in the production would disproportionately increase the cost of the set. Supposedly gok is working with ePBT on a reverse sublimation setup for Kuro/Shiro, so that may be an option after all depending on how their testing goes.

Other news, I got a video from ePBT showing off the sample the made up for me. It looks good in the video but I'm waiting until I see it in person to give a conclusive evaluation. I'd show the video but at the moment I don't know somewhere quick/easy to upload it to.

[gok_nz]

Really hoping for green accent and spacebar kits

I think some green blanks would be nice and doable in PBT.

The thing about that would be A) I think just blanks would be a half-baked solution, and B) adding another color of plastic in the production would disproportionately increase the cost of the set. Supposedly gok is working with ePBT on a reverse sublimation setup for Kuro/Shiro, so that may be an option after all depending on how their testing goes.

Other news, I got a video from ePBT showing off the sample the made up for me. It looks good in the video but I'm waiting until I see it in person to give a conclusive evaluation. I'd show the video but at the moment I don't know somewhere quick/easy to upload it to.

Does this link work? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/404472694122479616/506766058628186122/video.mov
Royal Alpha is near the end.

[pixelpusher]

Yep it works.  Holy cow.  I want all 3 sets now

[donutcat]

That does, but it makes you download it which I thought would worry some people, and it crashes my media player when I pause for some reason.

[pixelpusher]

That does, but it makes you download it which I thought would worry some people, and it crashes my media player when I pause for some reason.

Didn't notice but then I realized I was on my phone.  It just plays on mobile. 

[ejewell89]

I didnt want to download. what is it?

[pixelpusher]

I didnt want to download. what is it?

video showing the keycaps

[pixelpusher]

I gotchu guys.  I can remove this video from youtube if you want, but here it is so you cant actually watch it on desktop without downloading. 

This is a video sample of ePBT Grayscale (muted), Slate, and Royal Alpha.

[macclack]

I gotchu guys.  I can remove this video from youtube if you want, but here it is so you cant actually watch it on desktop without downloading. 

This is a video sample of ePBT Grayscale (muted), Slate, and Royal Alpha.

This looks absolutely fantastic. I'm more hyped than I was before. Nice sharp legends, and it looks like they got the color right too.

[laserbeamspewpew]

Looking good! GB when?

[donutcat]

Looking good! GB when?

Gotta wait for the sample to get to me to see how it is in person, and then most likely gok will be giving the legends a going-over to make sure they're mint before moving on. It's worth it to make sure that this is as good as it can be to make up for the white base not hitting in GMK R2 *and* because I'm planning on more sets in the future using this one as a base.

[oh_chesteroni]

I gotchu guys.  I can remove this video from youtube if you want, but here it is so you cant actually watch it on desktop without downloading. 

This is a video sample of ePBT Grayscale (muted), Slate, and Royal Alpha.

Sorry, don't mean to hijack, but who is running grayscale and has the GB started for it?

[ender]

I gotchu guys.  I can remove this video from youtube if you want, but here it is so you cant actually watch it on desktop without downloading. 

This is a video sample of ePBT Grayscale (muted), Slate, and Royal Alpha.

woah that looks REALLY good

gb when

[donutcat]

Samples in today and got some first pics. There are a few inconsistency issues that Gok and I were aware of beforehand and already working on, but overall the quality of the subbing is on point. In the next couple days I'll put some of these on my board with my GMK set and get some close up pics comparing them. I'm already super hyped about it just from this sample though and can't wait until Gok has the legends setup and we're ready to go with this.

[pixelpusher]

Looks really nice, man.  How's the space bar warpage?

[macclack]

This looks really good.

[soilheart]

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Samples in today and got some first pics. There are a few inconsistency issues that Gok and I were aware of beforehand and already working on, but overall the quality of the subbing is on point. In the next couple days I'll put some of these on my board with my GMK set and get some close up pics comparing them. I'm already super hyped about it just from this sample though and can't wait until Gok has the legends setup and we're ready to go with this.

No-one is probably as hyped as I am! An actual US Intl. keycap set. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! Finally!

(I can't see any inconsistency that I would be annoyed by, and I'm easily annoyed, but you probably know what kind of inconsistencies look for =P)

[donutcat]

Got a comparison pic today while the lighting in my room was acceptable


Please forgive the GMK caps looking a little dirty, I used RA to experiment with clear-coating caps to keep the texture/pad printing and one of the side effects was that they get dirty super easily.

Things that I can see right now that I'd like to adjust/change:

Sublegend green is a little darker than with GMK
The ¡ on 1 looks more like an i
@ looks a bit thin
5 is missing the €
I'd like the ¼ and ½ to be a little shorter/match the main legends in height
Q is a bit thicc
® I'd like a little closer to GMK's
Maybe make § a bit thicker, not sure
Make G a bit thicker
Æ looks a bit cramped and the A portion is taller than the E portion
© I'd like to look more like GMK's
Bottom row legends need to be more consistent with one another
Overall touchups to consistency across all legends

This is all stuff I've talked to Gok about so far, so we're already in the process of fixing everything I've made a note of. Let me know if you see anything here that I haven't addressed that you think should be looked at.

[nu_types]

Got a comparison pic today while the lighting in my room was acceptable

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Please forgive the GMK caps looking a little dirty, I used RA to experiment with clear-coating caps to keep the texture/pad printing and one of the side effects was that they get dirty super easily.

Things that I can see right now that I'd like to adjust/change:

Sublegend green is a little darker than with GMK
The ¡ on 1 looks more like an i
@ looks a bit thin
5 is missing the €
I'd like the ¼ and ½ to be a little shorter/match the main legends in height
Q is a bit thicc
® I'd like a little closer to GMK's
Maybe make § a bit thicker, not sure
Make G a bit thicker
Æ looks a bit cramped and the A portion is taller than the E portion
© I'd like to look more like GMK's
Bottom row legends need to be more consistent with one another
Overall touchups to consistency across all legends

This is all stuff I've talked to Gok about so far, so we're already in the process of fixing everything I've made a note of. Let me know if you see anything here that I haven't addressed that you think should be looked at.

Its funny that the 'E' on the GMK cap looks slightly screwy when compared to the EnjoyPBT.

[romevi]

Got a comparison pic today while the lighting in my room was acceptable

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Please forgive the GMK caps looking a little dirty, I used RA to experiment with clear-coating caps to keep the texture/pad printing and one of the side effects was that they get dirty super easily.

Things that I can see right now that I'd like to adjust/change:

Sublegend green is a little darker than with GMK
The ¡ on 1 looks more like an i
@ looks a bit thin
5 is missing the €
I'd like the ¼ and ½ to be a little shorter/match the main legends in height
Q is a bit thicc
® I'd like a little closer to GMK's
Maybe make § a bit thicker, not sure
Make G a bit thicker
Æ looks a bit cramped and the A portion is taller than the E portion
© I'd like to look more like GMK's
Bottom row legends need to be more consistent with one another
Overall touchups to consistency across all legends

This is all stuff I've talked to Gok about so far, so we're already in the process of fixing everything I've made a note of. Let me know if you see anything here that I haven't addressed that you think should be looked at.

Its funny that the 'E' on the GMK cap looks slightly screwy when compared to the EnjoyPBT.

ePBT is bestPBT.

[xoxox1029]

clean and like them!

[ejewell89]

Got a comparison pic today while the lighting in my room was acceptable

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Please forgive the GMK caps looking a little dirty, I used RA to experiment with clear-coating caps to keep the texture/pad printing and one of the side effects was that they get dirty super easily.

Things that I can see right now that I'd like to adjust/change:

Sublegend green is a little darker than with GMK
The ¡ on 1 looks more like an i
@ looks a bit thin
5 is missing the €
I'd like the ¼ and ½ to be a little shorter/match the main legends in height
Q is a bit thicc
® I'd like a little closer to GMK's
Maybe make § a bit thicker, not sure
Make G a bit thicker
Æ looks a bit cramped and the A portion is taller than the E portion
© I'd like to look more like GMK's
Bottom row legends need to be more consistent with one another
Overall touchups to consistency across all legends

This is all stuff I've talked to Gok about so far, so we're already in the process of fixing everything I've made a note of. Let me know if you see anything here that I haven't addressed that you think should be looked at.

Its funny that the 'E' on the GMK cap looks slightly screwy when compared to the EnjoyPBT.

ePBT is bestPBT.

why are you here. this isnt a blue keyset

[romevi]

Got a comparison pic today while the lighting in my room was acceptable

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Please forgive the GMK caps looking a little dirty, I used RA to experiment with clear-coating caps to keep the texture/pad printing and one of the side effects was that they get dirty super easily.

Things that I can see right now that I'd like to adjust/change:

Sublegend green is a little darker than with GMK
The ¡ on 1 looks more like an i
@ looks a bit thin
5 is missing the €
I'd like the ¼ and ½ to be a little shorter/match the main legends in height
Q is a bit thicc
® I'd like a little closer to GMK's
Maybe make § a bit thicker, not sure
Make G a bit thicker
Æ looks a bit cramped and the A portion is taller than the E portion
© I'd like to look more like GMK's
Bottom row legends need to be more consistent with one another
Overall touchups to consistency across all legends

This is all stuff I've talked to Gok about so far, so we're already in the process of fixing everything I've made a note of. Let me know if you see anything here that I haven't addressed that you think should be looked at.

Its funny that the 'E' on the GMK cap looks slightly screwy when compared to the EnjoyPBT.

ePBT is bestPBT.

why are you here. this isnt a blue keyset

If Hydro didn't exist as a GMK set I wouldn't use GMK tbh.

[ejewell89]

Got a comparison pic today while the lighting in my room was acceptable

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Please forgive the GMK caps looking a little dirty, I used RA to experiment with clear-coating caps to keep the texture/pad printing and one of the side effects was that they get dirty super easily.

Things that I can see right now that I'd like to adjust/change:

Sublegend green is a little darker than with GMK
The ¡ on 1 looks more like an i
@ looks a bit thin
5 is missing the €
I'd like the ¼ and ½ to be a little shorter/match the main legends in height
Q is a bit thicc
® I'd like a little closer to GMK's
Maybe make § a bit thicker, not sure
Make G a bit thicker
Æ looks a bit cramped and the A portion is taller than the E portion
© I'd like to look more like GMK's
Bottom row legends need to be more consistent with one another
Overall touchups to consistency across all legends

This is all stuff I've talked to Gok about so far, so we're already in the process of fixing everything I've made a note of. Let me know if you see anything here that I haven't addressed that you think should be looked at.

Its funny that the 'E' on the GMK cap looks slightly screwy when compared to the EnjoyPBT.

ePBT is bestPBT.

why are you here. this isnt a blue keyset

If Hydro didn't exist as a GMK set I wouldn't use GMK tbh.

Question still stands, sir

[donutcat]

why are you here. this isnt a blue keyset

Well. not yet anyway...

[pixelpusher]

why are you here. this isnt a blue keyset

Well. not yet anyway...

AH YESSSS.  I was just thinking about other color combos for this template.  Black with red sublegends, navy with lighter blue sublegends.  Looks like good things ahead.

Think of all of the blue-gray and navy cases out there.  We need some PBT with navy legends, boys!

[laserbeamspewpew]

Any updates on timing?

[Mcnos]

How's this looking so far?

[donutcat]

Gok's going to be on vacation for awhile, but we're also waiting for Kuro/Shiro samples to see how the updated modifiers on it look compared to the "normal" ePBT mod legends.

[ideus]

Put this in my 2019 budget. Any idea on timing yet?

[laserbeamspewpew]

Any updates?