Post by: prkns on Sun, 29 March 2020, 10:41:16
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1uBoXXYxZDx_FYwT5SYhCXfaTmLymfyM1)
WELCOME BACK!
Apologies that things went a little quiet... that's on me. However, that aside, Whimsy is back with a full overhaul and update!
I needed to take some time to get things tidied up before this was promoted any further so thank you to everyone for the awesome feedback (and patience)... it has been incredibly useful and genuinely helpful in getting Whimsy to this point and the kind responses have been collated into what you see here.
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::: UPDATED RENDERS :::
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1KXfvgJx6yJCcaqIZrTEM9F7w4jGrVrNG) (http://640x360]https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1HhPR3AfgMeRWP21widWd2igzwXcImANE)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1BvnRKamjNKlTXA_fopSQWpWCoeFYn8Yk) (http://640x360]https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1OcHkGcpypwWr590dC3qYtxwxt-yKTjk8)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=14lb33TrULdDgZlQkb_SSpz795ME3Uuc8) (http://640x360]https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1uwk26qXFz2p3lbkyRYis_x9E1YmcR73o)
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::: CASE COLOURS :::
The overwhelming majority of feedback voted in favour of a machined aluminium case with the final colours being:
- White -
- Pink -
- Anodized Aluminium -
(Case choice will be coupled with a brass plate)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1NI0rUOJ6SKWTz37aNgm-i_pDxT7M-0my)
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::: KEY LAYOUTS :::
There was a lot of interest in having an alternate bottom row to include a split spacebar, so this has been added to the PCB and plate.
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=15v05SFd_9IkWU5NqcALER1QZbaTYzq_F)
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::: OLED OPTIONS :::
Since the original IC and the change in the case design, the option of either 128x32 or 128x64 OLED screens is now available
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=159jRwIslKTiqwFk00eNdudzxCQxaHS8c)
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::: KIT CONTENTS :::
PCB
Case
Brass plate
Acrylic Cover
EC11 Encoder
Diodes
Hardware
OLED Choice (128x32/64)
Elite-C (Hopefully)
Header Sockets
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1EGUN74mrcVxW8wFCaiIXC8nT8MhuG0Y6)
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Price: TBD
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::: ALTERNATE RENDERS :::
| KAM_Superuser (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108326.0) by FreshFromTheGrave (https://i.imgur.com/k7e0U5P.png) | KAT Cyberspace (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104969.0) by Ulliam (https://i.imgur.com/ijMWdVv.png) |
| (https://i.imgur.com/e9CYDIW.png) KAM Lil Dragon (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108950.0) by InverseDC |
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::: FAQ :::
Q. Where are the other case options you offered?
A. As I said, there was an absolutely overwhelming sway towards a machined case and that was the option I personally preferred as well. I'm currently in conversations with a couple of providers to be able to offer the 3D printed option.
Q. How much and how many?
A. I'm aiming to keep the price of Whimsy down, this would mean that there will most likely be a low MOQ ensure costs stay down. There won't be a maximum number. No raffling, no auctions... just a straight-up buy.
Q. Any other controller boards?
A. Whimsy was designed around the use of an Elite-C. Ideally, the v4 version to give more space for the OLED but earlier versions will also work
Q. I wanted Ortho!? You said there would be ortho!!
A. Apologies for this, despite trying a few different ideas for this, there wasn't an option that I found that would work but also look good too... Sorry
Q. Why is the projected GB date so far away?
A. The long and short answer is that this is my first board and I'm being very cautious to ensure that everything is as close to perfect as possible. I also need to understand the best option to get these shipped out to everyone.
Q. Hotswap or nah?
A. Unfortunately not... based on the initial interest check, hot-swap was not favoured. My personal choice wouldn't have been hot-swap either but I wanted to see what you lovely people wanted before I wrote it off entirely.
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(Provisional Dates)
Group Buy: Feb 2021
(Depending on final prototypes)
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FOR UPDATES
DISCORD (https://discord.gg/wzPmKyh)
THIS IS FOURTEEN (https://thisisfourteen.co)
MAILING LIST (https://thisisfourteen.co/product/whimsy)
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DON'T TAKE THINGS TOO SERIOUSLY!
Massive thanks to Jasper, Nayf, Ulliam and Dave/Ben from Mechboards UK for all the help and support in getting Whimsy to where it's at right now
If you want to see the original IC click "More"
More
Hi! I'm Dave and this is my first keyboard design/production project. What started as something to prove to myself that I could design and produce a keyboard PCB, quickly escalated into something a little bigger. I'm properly excited about this as it's a lot of firsts for me and I'd love to hear what you think about whether it's viable for GB. It's currently in testing and design phases and so it only seemed right to ask for some feedback and hopefully open it up to GB as and when it's reached it's "final form".
So without further ado, here I present...
Whimsy!
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_F.png)
Inspired by the damn perfect UT47.2, Whimsy is aiming to be the most "extra" 40(ish)% profile keyboard. OLEDs and Rotary Encoders are the perfect addition to any board in my mind, so the idea of having them within the tiny form factor of a 40% just makes sense.
Current Specifications:
Planned Updates/Features:
Layouts:
This is pretty much it... if there's interest in multiple layout support then I will, of course, get this added to the roadmap. The PCB is completely designed by myself so it'd be fun to see how far I could push it.
The PCB will be open-sourced after the initial GB (if we get there), so there will always be a way of producing replacements if required.
Case Colors/Styles:
I was hoping to release this as a fully aluminium cased keyboard (hence the renders), but if there's interest in just the PCB + Plate bottom, then I'll release that too. However, the potential case variants are as follows:
INTEREST CHECK LINK: https://forms.gle/hQ3SqLB3EJPA5gsM9 (https://forms.gle/hQ3SqLB3EJPA5gsM9)
WHIMSY UPDATES PAGE: https://prkns.me/whimsy (https://prkns.me/whimsy)
INSTAGRAM: https://instagram.com/whimsykbd (https://instagram.com/whimsykbd)
Renders: Renders were done by myself... another first for me as I've never used 3D tools before but I thought I'd give it a go. Turns out it's very hard and took me far longer than I first anticipated that they would. Should there be some genuine interest, I will invest in some better renders. Even if you're not interested in Whimsy, I would love to hear feedback on these as I had a load of fun doing them and would love to try and get them looking better. I've attempted to get as close to Nautilus and Taro but don't claim these to be anything other than "inspired by".
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_T.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Taro_T.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_F.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_TA.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Taro_LA.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_RA.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_R.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_B.png)
Thanks in advance to everyone who comments/fills in the form... it genuinely would mean a lot! If you have any questions, suggestions, or advice for me, please don't hesitate to send them over. I've loved every second of this project's journey so far, and I'd love for it to continue.
Cheers,
Dave
So without further ado, here I present...
Whimsy!
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_F.png)
Inspired by the damn perfect UT47.2, Whimsy is aiming to be the most "extra" 40(ish)% profile keyboard. OLEDs and Rotary Encoders are the perfect addition to any board in my mind, so the idea of having them within the tiny form factor of a 40% just makes sense.
Current Specifications:
- 40/45% Form Factor/Layout
- Elite-C
- OLED (128x32)
- Rotary Encoder
Planned Updates/Features:
- Plate
- Brass bottom weight (case and interest depending)
- Integrated USB and controller rather than using an Elite-C
- Hotswap (interest depending)
Layouts:
This is pretty much it... if there's interest in multiple layout support then I will, of course, get this added to the roadmap. The PCB is completely designed by myself so it'd be fun to see how far I could push it.
The PCB will be open-sourced after the initial GB (if we get there), so there will always be a way of producing replacements if required.
Case Colors/Styles:
I was hoping to release this as a fully aluminium cased keyboard (hence the renders), but if there's interest in just the PCB + Plate bottom, then I'll release that too. However, the potential case variants are as follows:
- Aluminium Case: Blasted, then anodized in a select colour range. Ideally, I'd like to keep the variations low in the interest of fulfilment. Fill out the IC form, please!
- Acrylic Layer Case: This is another potential option to keep the board feeling a little more "premium" but this option will only be properly explored if there is enough interest.
- 3D Printed: The case design already exists and is currently in the phase of test prints to check for alignment issues and other potential problems. Like the PCB, the case will also be available to download and print once the initial GB has run.
- PCB/FR4 Plate: The easiest, cheapest and really the only other option we have is a PCB/FR4 plate in the same colour as the chosen PCB colour. Just make sure interest is specified in the form.
INTEREST CHECK LINK: https://forms.gle/hQ3SqLB3EJPA5gsM9 (https://forms.gle/hQ3SqLB3EJPA5gsM9)
WHIMSY UPDATES PAGE: https://prkns.me/whimsy (https://prkns.me/whimsy)
INSTAGRAM: https://instagram.com/whimsykbd (https://instagram.com/whimsykbd)
Renders: Renders were done by myself... another first for me as I've never used 3D tools before but I thought I'd give it a go. Turns out it's very hard and took me far longer than I first anticipated that they would. Should there be some genuine interest, I will invest in some better renders. Even if you're not interested in Whimsy, I would love to hear feedback on these as I had a load of fun doing them and would love to try and get them looking better. I've attempted to get as close to Nautilus and Taro but don't claim these to be anything other than "inspired by".
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_T.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Taro_T.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_F.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_TA.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Taro_LA.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_RA.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_R.png)
(https://prkns.s3.amazonaws.com/whimsy/Whimsy-Nautilus_B.png)
Thanks in advance to everyone who comments/fills in the form... it genuinely would mean a lot! If you have any questions, suggestions, or advice for me, please don't hesitate to send them over. I've loved every second of this project's journey so far, and I'd love for it to continue.
Cheers,
Dave
Post by: holocene on Sun, 29 March 2020, 10:47:11
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Post by: Fabi on Sun, 29 March 2020, 11:43:12
Have you thought about a split spacebar? I might even like it better that way ;)
Post by: Jaltr on Sun, 29 March 2020, 12:19:23
Post by: prkns on Sun, 29 March 2020, 14:32:22
Nice! I like it!
Thank you kindly!
Post by: prkns on Sun, 29 March 2020, 14:34:53
That’s a really interesting concept and I’ll be keeping my eyes on it (just followed your instagram) as adding an OLED and an encoder adds a lot of flexibility to a 40%
Thanks man, means a lot. Already had way more feedback than I thought i would via the form and it's looking like I'll definitely put together a GB for it.
OLEDs and Encoders just bring that extra spice in my mind... The Corne was the first board I had that made me need them on every board since ha ha
Post by: prkns on Sun, 29 March 2020, 14:38:19
Really like it, great work. And a unique look, which isn't that easy with all those keyboards out there.
Have you thought about a split spacebar? I might even like it better that way ;)
Thanks for the compliment and glad you like it. There's always potential to open up that bottom row to alternative layouts. I just need to explore which are the better choices, but I don't think a split space bar would be too much of a problem to add.
Thanks again 👍
Post by: meatsmoothies on Sun, 29 March 2020, 14:41:06
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 29 March 2020, 16:27:07
Post by: prkns on Mon, 30 March 2020, 06:26:09
Normally don't do non splits but I love this project! It's so fun, and I'm excited to see how it all comes together :)
It's been getting a decent amount of feedback so far... but unfortunately not to split it ha ha
There's a lot of request for a split spacebar if you're happy to meet me halfway ;)
Thank you for the compliment though, and i'm pretty excited now to see where it ends up.
Post by: tex_live_utility on Mon, 30 March 2020, 09:39:51
Post by: prkns on Mon, 30 March 2020, 10:30:40
This is really awesome, can't wait for this :)). Any chance for a rama knob ;)
Hey! Thanks for the kind words... I've been reading through the feedback so far and it's definitely looking like it'll go into production. Hopefully, I'll be able to post some updates in a few days when I've collated some more.
And I'd love to do a RAMA encoder knob but I'm not sure that they do such small runs of things like that. If someone has more information or contact at RAMA that would be interested in taking a punt on this, then I'd be more than happy to talk ha ha
Post by: DuellM on Mon, 30 March 2020, 13:54:14
This is really awesome, can't wait for this :)). Any chance for a rama knob ;)
Hey! Thanks for the kind words... I've been reading through the feedback so far and it's definitely looking like it'll go into production. Hopefully, I'll be able to post some updates in a few days when I've collated some more.
And I'd love to do a RAMA encoder knob but I'm not sure that they do such small runs of things like that. If someone has more information or contact at RAMA that would be interested in taking a punt on this, then I'd be more than happy to talk ha ha
I sent RAMA Works a message on instagram hopefully they'll respond with the needed info. I really would love to see this happen 🥳🍻.
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 30 March 2020, 14:42:19
EDIT: If I may raise a personal concern. Is that a 1.25u enter? I pre-ordered the 40s set (pretty standard) of GMK Kaiju and I don't see anything in R3 that can be compatible with it.
Post by: DrHigsby on Mon, 30 March 2020, 16:51:27
It looks like Satisfaction 75's little brother. IC form filled, IG followed. I am very interested in this board if more "exotic" colors will be accomodated.
EDIT: If I may raise a personal concern. Is that a 1.25u enter? I pre-ordered the 40s set (pretty standard) of GMK Kaiju and I don't see anything in R3 that can be compatible with it.
It is a 1.25u enter. This layout features a uniform stagger (0.25u) instead of the more traditional ISO-ANSI stagger of 0.5u/0.25u/0.5u. This creates a lot more visual symmetry for the layout which is compensated by an ascending/descending 1u/1.25u/1.5u left handed and right handed column. This staggering is perhaps one of the reasons Prkns loves the UT47 layout so much.
EDIT:
Concerning the GMK Kaiju set; I see a few options
1) trade someone for an extra 1.25u R3 tab key from the “abnormalities” kit
2) use one of the many 1.25u R4 options from the base kit
3) use a key from another GB set
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 31 March 2020, 01:20:36
It looks like Satisfaction 75's little brother. IC form filled, IG followed. I am very interested in this board if more "exotic" colors will be accomodated.
EDIT: If I may raise a personal concern. Is that a 1.25u enter? I pre-ordered the 40s set (pretty standard) of GMK Kaiju and I don't see anything in R3 that can be compatible with it.
It is a 1.25u enter. This layout features a uniform stagger (0.25u) instead of the more traditional ISO-ANSI stagger of 0.5u/0.25u/0.5u. This creates a lot more visual symmetry for the layout which is compensated by an ascending/descending 1u/1.25u/1.5u left handed and right handed column. This staggering is perhaps one of the reasons Prkns loves the UT47 layout so much.
EDIT:
Concerning the GMK Kaiju set; I see a few options
1) trade someone for an extra 1.25u R3 tab key from the “abnormalities” kit
2) use one of the many 1.25u R4 options from the base kit
3) use a key from another GB set
Oof, you've articulated why I this stagger looks so visually appealing. If I ever get the Whimsy, I may go with your second option. Thanks!
Post by: prkns on Tue, 31 March 2020, 03:39:26
I like that the controller isn't directly under a switch. That always made these kinds of boards a real pain to desolder, since you had to install the board right over some of the switches.
To me (and my eye) there's something about being able to see an Elite-C and OLED exposed so i didn't want to try and hide it away somewhere and actually embrace it really. It won't be everyone's tastes obviously, but nothing ever is. Thanks for the the feedback too 👍
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 31 March 2020, 04:46:45
Post by: prkns on Tue, 31 March 2020, 12:50:51
It looks like Satisfaction 75's little brother. IC form filled, IG followed. I am very interested in this board if more "exotic" colors will be accomodated.
EDIT: If I may raise a personal concern. Is that a 1.25u enter? I pre-ordered the 40s set (pretty standard) of GMK Kaiju and I don't see anything in R3 that can be compatible with it.
Yea, there are a couple of issues where coverage is concerned but generally speaking, most sets have an option that would suffice this layout. However as DrHigsby explains so well, the reason i love the UT layout is that it not only looks fantastic but the .25u stagger feels incredible. I also love Ortholinear layouts and this way feels almost the same as typing on an ortho but with the familiarity of a standard .5u stagger.
It's really hard to explain but everyone i know who's tried a .25u stagger feels comfortable using it.
That being said, there is an argument for adding multi-layout support going on in the feedback form. Something that once i've collated it all, i'll make a decision on which row's i will add different layouts too.
Thanks for your support so far though, i'm looking forward to sharing some more updates soon.
Post by: Fabi on Tue, 31 March 2020, 13:05:53
It looks like Satisfaction 75's little brother. IC form filled, IG followed. I am very interested in this board if more "exotic" colors will be accomodated.
EDIT: If I may raise a personal concern. Is that a 1.25u enter? I pre-ordered the 40s set (pretty standard) of GMK Kaiju and I don't see anything in R3 that can be compatible with it.
Yea, there are a couple of issues where coverage is concerned but generally speaking, most sets have an option that would suffice this layout. However as DrHigsby explains so well, the reason i love the UT layout is that it not only looks fantastic but the .25u stagger feels incredible. I also love Ortholinear layouts and this way feels almost the same as typing on an ortho but with the familiarity of a standard .5u stagger.
It's really hard to explain but everyone i know who's tried a .25u stagger feels comfortable using it.
That being said, there is an argument for adding multi-layout support going on in the feedback form. Something that once i've collated it all, i'll make a decision on which row's i will add different layouts too.
Thanks for your support so far though, i'm looking forward to sharing some more updates soon.
Stick with the .25 stagger. I haven't got one yet ;) (and it might be a good reason I could bring up if I get asked why I had to buy another keyboard ... Surely she will understand)
I think the thing with new layouts is, that you might have poor kit compatibility. But if you try to stick to the kit keys you will likely end up with a design looking too familiar ... so it's a hard decision.
But if you ask me, make something unique.
Post by: prkns on Wed, 01 April 2020, 13:19:05
Weird but I like it.
Glad to hear it 🙌
Hopefully the next round of updates due in a week will confirm it 👍
Post by: prkns on Sat, 11 April 2020, 04:23:23
Based on what's been suggested and sent back to me, this is definitely going to happen and work is in progress to fix some small issues and add a couple of new features.
I'm aiming to have a solid update early/mid next week 🙌
Post by: Poromancer on Sat, 11 April 2020, 12:41:38
Post by: rj14ng on Sat, 11 April 2020, 12:47:58
Post by: prkns on Sat, 11 April 2020, 13:09:38
Hope the hotswap option will stay! I don't mind pay extra for it. Still pretty new to the hobby.
There's a good chance that both options will be available at some point... I'm just working on getting the final PCB design to 100% without them first and then release a hotswap version down the line as just a PCB replacement. However, if i can make it work without the need to redesign the whole board, I'll probably do it for GB launch.
Thanks 👍
Post by: delet_d on Sat, 11 April 2020, 13:41:46
Edit: Very interested in an acrylic version.
Post by: prkns on Sat, 11 April 2020, 15:36:16
This looks amazing, especially with the encoder and OLED! I'm seriously considering diving into 40% boards because of this.
Thanks for the kind words... I'm hoping to finish the next stage renders this weekend and have a proper update posted sometime next week so hopefully you'll feel the same way when you see it 👍
Post by: Magas on Sat, 11 April 2020, 16:36:27
Post by: delet_d on Sat, 11 April 2020, 18:25:26
It looks like Satisfaction 75's little brother. IC form filled, IG followed. I am very interested in this board if more "exotic" colors will be accomodated.
EDIT: If I may raise a personal concern. Is that a 1.25u enter? I pre-ordered the 40s set (pretty standard) of GMK Kaiju and I don't see anything in R3 that can be compatible with it.
Yea, there are a couple of issues where coverage is concerned but generally speaking, most sets have an option that would suffice this layout. However as DrHigsby explains so well, the reason i love the UT layout is that it not only looks fantastic but the .25u stagger feels incredible. I also love Ortholinear layouts and this way feels almost the same as typing on an ortho but with the familiarity of a standard .5u stagger.
It's really hard to explain but everyone i know who's tried a .25u stagger feels comfortable using it.
That being said, there is an argument for adding multi-layout support going on in the feedback form. Something that once i've collated it all, i'll make a decision on which row's i will add different layouts too.
Thanks for your support so far though, i'm looking forward to sharing some more updates soon.
Stick with the .25 stagger. I haven't got one yet ;) (and it might be a good reason I could bring up if I get asked why I had to buy another keyboard ... Surely she will understand)
I think the thing with new layouts is, that you might have poor kit compatibility. But if you try to stick to the kit keys you will likely end up with a design looking too familiar ... so it's a hard decision.
But if you ask me, make something unique.
Compatibility-wise, some 40s kits come with 1.25u enter, and none I could find come with a 1.5u shift key, so it's only 2 keys you have to worry about. The shift you could replace with any r4 1.5u key or a novelty.
Post by: fakedSkill on Sat, 11 April 2020, 20:21:38
Post by: andhey on Sat, 18 April 2020, 04:02:04
Im in on it! looking forward to the updates!
Post by: i luv chuletas on Sat, 18 April 2020, 18:04:01
Will keep an eye out for this project though
Post by: delet_d on Sun, 19 April 2020, 12:27:33
Sick design, but my only concern is that 1.25 enter key. Veeeery rare nowadays in most 40's kits :(
Around half of GMK sets I've seen with a dedicated 40s kit have a 1.25 enter. Bushido and Nautilus 2 both have it, as did Darling. Taro R2, Peach Blossom, and MoDo Light did not. KAT sets have much better compatibility.
Post by: Tyson on Sun, 19 April 2020, 15:15:08
Post by: prkns on Sun, 19 April 2020, 17:50:42
Looks super neat! Really hope it will be an unlimited GB, so i can get one!
I'm pretty sure the GB will be unlimited yes... i'm not 100% sure on what i'm expecting in terms of final numbers but i'll be posting an update regarding pricing based on certain quantity milestones. Just waiting to hear back from the machining/finishing company that i'm using
Post by: prkns on Sun, 19 April 2020, 17:51:51
I like ortho, but its nice to see something different for a 40%
Im in on it! looking forward to the updates!
Thanks for the kind words... i'm working on a big update at the moment. There's quite a lot been taken into account from the IC form so far and i want to get opinions and feedback on colours etc..
Post by: prkns on Sun, 19 April 2020, 17:55:52
Sick design, but my only concern is that 1.25 enter key. Veeeery rare nowadays in most 40's kits :(
Will keep an eye out for this project though
As delet_d says, there's a number of sets that have come out recently that support this layout. It's slightly annoying of course that not all of them do but i love the .25 staggered feeling and (personally) i think it looks great too so i'm willing to make sacrifices and pester the keycap designers at IC stage to add the couple of random keys that are potentially missing and see what comes from it.
You're definitely right in questioning it though... it is a rarity to find a fully compatible set every time a new design comes out... i suppose this is where the IC for caps comes in very handy.
Post by: i luv chuletas on Sun, 19 April 2020, 19:51:59
Sick design, but my only concern is that 1.25 enter key. Veeeery rare nowadays in most 40's kits :(
Will keep an eye out for this project though
As delet_d says, there's a number of sets that have come out recently that support this layout. It's slightly annoying of course that not all of them do but i love the .25 staggered feeling and (personally) i think it looks great too so i'm willing to make sacrifices and pester the keycap designers at IC stage to add the couple of random keys that are potentially missing and see what comes from it.
You're definitely right in questioning it though... it is a rarity to find a fully compatible set every time a new design comes out... i suppose this is where the IC for caps comes in very handy.
I joined Darling and hadn't realized that it did include 1.25, as does Bushido. Still not the most common of keys, but I stand corrected.
My other only feedback here is that I'd love to see a variation in the bottom layout, allowing for double space bars or even a full spacebar at 6u.
Working something out with having a 2.25 + 2.75, or any variation similar to that would be awesome to have for function layer or simply to give flexibility other than just a 2.0 spacebar.
Post by: prkns on Mon, 20 April 2020, 09:01:20
My other only feedback here is that I'd love to see a variation in the bottom layout, allowing for double space bars or even a full spacebar at 6u.
Working something out with having a 2.25 + 2.75, or any variation similar to that would be awesome to have for function layer or simply to give flexibility other than just a 2.0 spacebar.
There has been a lot of requests for a split spacebar bottom row and this has been accounted for in the update. I'm currently working on collating all of the IC feedback at the moment and implementing the more frequented requests before i push out a full update on here.
Thanks for your feedback though, much appreciated!
Post by: monkeywright on Thu, 21 May 2020, 16:12:10
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Thu, 21 May 2020, 16:21:53
I love the look of this. As a writer, I HAVE to have a standard middle row (quote/apostrophe key where your enter is), so I'd want a split-space on the bottom that I can assign as enter/space. I'm loving the look of this though!
A fellow monkey!
I am also interested in split space bar it makes everything much easier
Post by: Bonsa on Fri, 22 May 2020, 04:14:51
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Post by: FRANCO on Tue, 02 June 2020, 23:12:49
Whimsy no more? IG was removed.
I can confirm the Whimsy is still happening
Post by: harmful on Tue, 09 June 2020, 09:50:06
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Post by: Willtato on Mon, 27 July 2020, 10:33:37
Just wanted to make sure, will this be QMK compatible?
Thanks.
How exciting!
Edit: I'd also like to ask if there's a friendly option to ship to the UK.
Post by: rpiguy9907 on Mon, 27 July 2020, 20:18:23
Great concept.
Post by: -Jerry- on Tue, 28 July 2020, 01:20:01
I would prefer the rotary encoder and LED on the left, so there is more room for the mouse on the right of the keyboard, but I will probably buy it regardless :-)I mean, it’s already 40% - you’ll have plenty of mouse room regardless, hehe
Great concept.
Post by: KCK on Tue, 28 July 2020, 08:55:18
Post by: Aryeth_ on Sat, 01 August 2020, 07:43:11
looking forward 2 it
Post by: johnnyhowey on Fri, 14 August 2020, 01:17:32
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Post by: zoo on Sat, 19 September 2020, 23:27:42
Though I like the knob and OLED, wish it didn't need an elite-C board to work. It expands the port area, and with an alu case, it really doesn't need this.
Post by: SnowShy on Mon, 26 October 2020, 16:53:32
Post by: zeejet on Sun, 01 November 2020, 18:09:13
Best of luck on this project!
Post by: Current Keyboards on Sun, 01 November 2020, 23:00:19
Post by: darthcapn on Fri, 20 November 2020, 20:39:12
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Post by: MS85 on Sun, 22 November 2020, 06:13:57
Is there any chance to see a 4th color? That pastel light blue used to complement the pink in some renders would fit perfectly on the case itself. (Also something like the 353 C of Superuser would be astonishing and stilll on the pastel theme, but I guess it would be a little too nichey for the whole case)
Post by: prkns on Sun, 22 November 2020, 13:11:51
Loving the updates and the new renders are super cute! Colour options are rad :D
Thanks man! Means a lot! Can't wait to get Superuser on one of these for real!
really stoked for this. will there be a knob for the rotary encoder included and any idea where to get cool knobs?
I'm working to try and get a custom knob made alongside the board but if that doesn't happen then I'll aim to source some "standard" knobs. I'll update as and when anything changes.
Has this kb already been sold?
Not yet... it's due to start GB in February once I've finalised a few of the suppliers
Post by: Digmo on Sun, 22 November 2020, 15:16:40
Post by: BirgusLatro on Mon, 23 November 2020, 01:10:23
Post by: i luv chuletas on Mon, 23 November 2020, 02:39:02
Will certainly be joining this when you run it!
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 23 November 2020, 06:05:58
Post by: Insanecamo on Mon, 23 November 2020, 06:54:56
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Post by: Magnificent Bureaucrat on Mon, 23 November 2020, 13:54:58
That little voice at the back of my mind: But it has an oled and a rotary encoder!
I know it's boring but I would have liked a version in black. It looks pretty sweet with cyberspace.
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 23 November 2020, 14:33:27
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 23 November 2020, 14:54:24
back on the whimsy train
Post by: Ireris on Mon, 23 November 2020, 17:09:17
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Post by: prkns on Mon, 23 November 2020, 17:51:46
Love the changes. I'm pretty sad to see ortho go, but I like the layout you've landed at with the inclusion of the split bars.
Will certainly be joining this when you run it!
Thanks for support and the kinds words... Glad you like the additional layout 👍
OOOF this thing is clean.
Cheers man! Means a lot 🙏
A very unusual and fun little board. Great work on the design. I am very interested just for the fun of it.
Thanks! Hoping to release some more information in the next few days :)
Post by: EURA on Mon, 23 November 2020, 18:38:51
Post by: prkns on Tue, 24 November 2020, 16:51:46
Not typically a fan of 40%, bur I'm liking this one :)
Thanks!
choo choo
back on the whimsy train
Full steam ahead dude! 😆
Rational thoughts: I think I'd struggle with something smaller than 60% and I don't really need another board.
That little voice at the back of my mind: But it has an oled and a rotary encoder!
I know it's boring but I would have liked a version in black. It looks pretty sweet with cyberspace.
There's been a lot of interest in a black version so it's looking like that's an almost definite option 👍
Post by: Dazon on Tue, 24 November 2020, 19:26:08
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Post by: cigs_coffee on Wed, 25 November 2020, 03:47:43
SO in for that pink!!Agreed. All in for a pink one!
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Post by: JoltFX on Fri, 27 November 2020, 21:20:16
“𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.”
Post by: prkns on Wed, 02 December 2020, 16:14:52
God I love this design so much ;-; So excited to be picking one of these babies up. Cheers! :)
Thank you! Can't wait to get them made now! :)
Would it be possible to make hotswap PCB an option
Unfortunately not in this version but i might do one as a v2 PCB later next year
Post by: HungHingDaiLo on Thu, 03 December 2020, 02:27:42
Seconded EURA's comment, very excited for this!
Post by: supermason on Sat, 05 December 2020, 18:32:25
Post by: nettik on Sun, 06 December 2020, 01:35:51
Post by: atlanticise on Mon, 07 December 2020, 21:45:44
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 07 December 2020, 22:44:33
I didn't think I needed another 40%, I tried my best to avoid looking at this, but it's super cute. Never thought I'd actually want a pink keyboard but it's just so pretty. Do you have any price estimates yet?
Owning a pink keyboard increases your IQ by a factor of 1.5 — fact.
Post by: SpeakingSilence on Tue, 08 December 2020, 09:51:54
Post by: Ireris on Tue, 08 December 2020, 10:21:43
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Post by: Jesus on Tue, 08 December 2020, 14:19:26
Post by: Wokipoki on Wed, 09 December 2020, 01:37:25
Post by: JoltFX on Wed, 09 December 2020, 08:31:15
“𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.”
Post by: Wokipoki on Wed, 09 December 2020, 11:50:27
Last I saw was estimated between $175-$225... may be inaccurate
“𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.”
Not bad! I might actually get on board despite never wanting a 40% keeb.
Post by: KCK on Wed, 09 December 2020, 14:35:08
Post by: Yilk81 on Wed, 09 December 2020, 14:54:56
Post by: JoltFX on Wed, 09 December 2020, 15:44:34
“𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.”
Post by: Chippy on Wed, 09 December 2020, 16:44:20
Post by: JoltFX on Wed, 09 December 2020, 17:02:45
Even if it's not rama, I would love to see a rose gold ano knob as an option. They are impossible to find anywhere.Yes please, I’m wondering how easy it’ll be to find a knob that fits my preference. Hoping for some options with the GB.
“𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.”
Post by: Ashen_21 on Wed, 09 December 2020, 17:18:55
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Post by: HappyB0T on Sat, 12 December 2020, 19:34:49
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Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Fri, 18 December 2020, 00:02:29
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Post by: parablol on Wed, 23 December 2020, 02:02:21
I also really like how ugly your website is.
Post by: GalaxyDynamite on Sun, 03 January 2021, 22:56:59
Post by: gasp on Mon, 04 January 2021, 00:25:39
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Post by: limeocean on Mon, 04 January 2021, 01:05:58
Post by: Ulliam on Mon, 04 January 2021, 02:32:42
I don't think I've every wanted a 40% more. this looks fantastic. depending on price I'm in!
I bet it'll be less than you're thinking Prkns is the man
Post by: limeocean on Mon, 04 January 2021, 12:00:31
4 more weeks till feb, already the highlight of 2021 lets go baby! ill take one in every colour please.I don't think I've every wanted a 40% more. this looks fantastic. depending on price I'm in!
I bet it'll be less than you're thinking Prkns is the man
Reading this is music to my eyes!
Post by: Livid on Tue, 05 January 2021, 00:35:27
I can't do 40% layout but the design is great and I really like the OLED and rotary placements on the board. If this ever gets a big brother in the 65-75% range, I'd be in for sure.
I'm with this guy. Would looove to see this a little bigger someday. For now though, amazing work and good job on almost tempting me to get a 40%.
Post by: xlSantos on Thu, 07 January 2021, 00:42:56
Even if it's not rama, I would love to see a rose gold ano knob as an option. They are impossible to find anywhere.
I would also love this! I can't wait for the gb to start.
Post by: veelut on Thu, 07 January 2021, 13:44:49
Post by: sleepy on Sun, 10 January 2021, 22:01:12
Post by: DarkNefarious on Tue, 12 January 2021, 05:14:46
Post by: Alejo1707 on Tue, 12 January 2021, 11:22:35
Also...signature test!!! :P
Post by: GladosXiao on Thu, 14 January 2021, 22:19:31
Post by: CookieFlow on Sun, 17 January 2021, 14:51:48
But I don't think I could ever use a 40%, and it would be a shame to just have it as a display piece
Really hoping that you will have a similar aethestic in a 65%+ or Alice in the future !
Post by: nettik on Sun, 17 January 2021, 15:18:14
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Post by: esosu0 on Mon, 01 February 2021, 00:38:01
Post by: patersunny on Mon, 01 February 2021, 04:06:34
Really want to get one for myself and build a pink one for the missus
Post by: JoltFX on Mon, 01 February 2021, 10:30:03
“𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.”
Post by: Vibex on Mon, 01 February 2021, 21:14:56
Post by: Ulliam on Mon, 01 February 2021, 21:46:36
Super excited for this! Will the board be using QMK for programming?
it sure will!
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Mon, 01 February 2021, 22:39:28
Also, this line doesn't make sense to me "I'm aiming to keep the price of Whimsy down, this would mean that there will most likely be a low MOQ ensure costs stay down."
Higher MOQ means lower costs per unit. Producing lower units does not give you cheaper prices; in fact it serves the opposite. Did you mean high MOQ?
Post by: keebpleeb on Tue, 02 February 2021, 08:43:45
Higher MOQ means lower costs per unit. Producing lower units does not give you cheaper prices; in fact it serves the opposite. Did you mean high MOQ?
Based off of the comments that Ulliam has made in this thread I'd believe so. It really seems like they're trying to keep the final price down.
Also it's February and I want this board
Post by: Pandamom98 on Tue, 02 February 2021, 10:35:11
Higher MOQ means lower costs per unit. Producing lower units does not give you cheaper prices; in fact it serves the opposite. Did you mean high MOQ?
Based off of the comments that Ulliam has made in this thread I'd believe so. It really seems like they're trying to keep the final price down.
Also it's February and I want this board
call JG Wentworth 877-Cashnow :P same though I can't wait to get this board
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Tue, 02 February 2021, 16:28:30
So he means high MOQ right?Higher MOQ means lower costs per unit. Producing lower units does not give you cheaper prices; in fact it serves the opposite. Did you mean high MOQ?
Based off of the comments that Ulliam has made in this thread I'd believe so. It really seems like they're trying to keep the final price down.
Also it's February and I want this board
Post by: Alejo1707 on Tue, 02 February 2021, 16:58:32
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Post by: keebpleeb on Tue, 02 February 2021, 17:10:39
So he means high MOQ right?Higher MOQ means lower costs per unit. Producing lower units does not give you cheaper prices; in fact it serves the opposite. Did you mean high MOQ?
Based off of the comments that Ulliam has made in this thread I'd believe so. It really seems like they're trying to keep the final price down.
Also it's February and I want this board
Sure seems like it, though I think if it keeps a ~$250 price point we probably won't have any issue hitting even an unreasonably high MOQ. I've never owned a 40% and am pretty adamant on copping this one!
Methinks a pink...
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Tue, 02 February 2021, 17:35:28
So he means high MOQ right?Higher MOQ means lower costs per unit. Producing lower units does not give you cheaper prices; in fact it serves the opposite. Did you mean high MOQ?
Based off of the comments that Ulliam has made in this thread I'd believe so. It really seems like they're trying to keep the final price down.
Also it's February and I want this board
Sure seems like it, though I think if it keeps a ~$250 price point we probably won't have any issue hitting even an unreasonably high MOQ. I've never owned a 40% and am pretty adamant on copping this one!
Methinks a pink...
Same
I think this will be my first 40% too just for the cool design factor.
I would really want to see prototypes first, though. It seems all that's shown are renders? Unless those are some meticulously perfect photos.
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Tue, 02 February 2021, 17:36:16
Post by: Ulliam on Tue, 02 February 2021, 20:01:25
Update for all those wondering
Post by: nettik on Wed, 03 February 2021, 02:54:53
Still no word on knobs?
Post by: JoltFX on Wed, 03 February 2021, 07:59:12
“𝙁𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙞𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙞𝙧𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩 𝙛𝙚𝙚𝙡𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮 𝙞𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙙𝙞𝙢.”
Post by: boogiemochi on Fri, 05 February 2021, 16:41:05
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Post by: Senbeii on Fri, 05 February 2021, 18:27:45
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Sat, 06 February 2021, 17:16:54
I'm looking to own at least one board at each layout - 40%, 60%, 65%, 75%, and TKL.
I got the Whimsy as my 40%. Just need to see the production aluminum prototypes, and you got my money. Good luck my man.
Post by: EchoOneZero on Sun, 07 February 2021, 10:58:27
Post by: DeMechanica on Tue, 09 February 2021, 19:20:24
Post by: emceeaich on Thu, 11 February 2021, 03:18:27
How does one access the values on the rotary encoder?
Post by: -Jerry- on Thu, 11 February 2021, 05:05:20
How does one access the values on the rotary encoder?
QMK supports it, so you just put a little block of code in the keymap to dictate what you want it to do.
I suspect it’ll come bound to volume or something by default.
Post by: Nhils on Thu, 11 February 2021, 06:01:13
Post by: thicthock on Thu, 11 February 2021, 08:52:45
The only thing that might put me off is the sale through your own store.
Post by: Muiju on Fri, 12 February 2021, 00:52:18
Post by: -Jerry- on Fri, 12 February 2021, 02:26:21
Is there an option to have a knob without the `X` on there?
I don’t think it’s concrete yet (from looking through the Discord channel) whether the knobs will be standard encoder knobs (the ones that tend to come with the encoders themselves) or custom ones. We’ll have to wait and see what’s shown when the GB goes live, I believe.
Post by: -Jerry- on Sun, 14 February 2021, 13:24:07
Group Buy is now predicted to be in March (https://thisisfourteen.co/news/prototypes-are-in-progress) due to prototypes being about 10-15 working days away from arriving at this point for all the colours.
Post by: Bantalope on Wed, 17 February 2021, 04:07:45
Post by: Extra Fox on Sat, 20 February 2021, 13:53:49
Signed up for updates.
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Sat, 20 February 2021, 17:02:02
For anyone not following the Discord or their website:Stoked!
Group Buy is now predicted to be in March (https://thisisfourteen.co/news/prototypes-are-in-progress) due to prototypes being about 10-15 working days away from arriving at this point for all the colours.
I'm in on this for sure.
Post by: keebpleeb on Mon, 22 February 2021, 10:32:27
I now understand on a visceral level why all of the guys from the 40s Discord immediately chime in on every keyset IC and are quick to correct 40s kittings - mad frustrating :mad:
Post by: -Jerry- on Mon, 22 February 2021, 11:20:31
I now understand on a visceral level why all of the guys from the 40s Discord immediately chime in on every keyset IC and are quick to correct 40s kittings - mad frustrating :mad:
Haha, yeah - I'm planning on putting Bento on mine and even with the 40s kit and the novelty kit, I can't quite fill it properly. It's got a 1.5 backspace, at least, but I'll have to use a R4 novelty for both the enter key and the shift key.
Post by: ThickJimmy on Mon, 22 February 2021, 19:39:30
Post by: InvXXVII on Tue, 23 February 2021, 14:31:34
Post by: milkham on Sat, 27 February 2021, 22:54:26
(https://i.imgur.com/622sSpF.png)
Post by: -Jerry- on Sun, 28 February 2021, 04:27:55
I made this to make it easier for me to figure out compatibility is it correct? i'm pretty new at thisShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/622sSpF.png)
Yep, there is this one from over on the Discord channel for the split layout too:
(https://i.imgur.com/o1M3kod.jpg)
The key that will likely give you the most trouble, even with an average GMK 40% kit, is the 1.25u enter, with ePBT sets giving probably the best cherry-profile compatibility (of what I have on order, GMK Bento only has a single 1.25U R3 key, but ePBT Ramenstop has two) and the non-sculpted profiles being the absolute easiest.
Post by: keebpleeb on Fri, 05 March 2021, 13:59:38
I've been watching thisisfourteen.com (http://thisisfourteen.com) like a hawk to see when this GB is going to hit and it says 19 days from now, which should be
3/24/21.
Source (https://thisisfourteen.co/store/whimsy)
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Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Fri, 05 March 2021, 15:16:45
Post by: -Jerry- on Fri, 05 March 2021, 17:37:38
Hurry up. I need to be in on this.
(https://media.tenor.com/images/67d326f8197bd93038f2e688ac0a5cfd/tenor.gif)
Post by: thicthock on Sat, 06 March 2021, 13:10:37
Post by: -Jerry- on Sun, 07 March 2021, 08:28:20
so op any GB rules and whats the secure payment option since tyou are going without a store>
prkns has a store - https://thisisfourteen.co/store
You’ll see the Whimsy listed there ready for the GB to start in 15 days.
Post by: MQLYU on Sun, 07 March 2021, 09:22:56
Post by: LordHaveMercy on Thu, 11 March 2021, 00:06:26
But, I *really* love the design of it and I honestly wonder if maybe I might enjoy this keeb more than I'm thinking.
I'm not sure whether a single space or split space would be right for me. But, given I tap space with my right index finger, maybe a single space would work for me... Anyone wanna chime in on this?
I might just join in on this and let Whimsy be my first 40%. It's a good price, too, for a very custom and unique-looking keeb. Cheers to the upcoming GB!
Edit: Also, any chance there will be some custom-cut case foam and/or PCB foam for Whimsy?
Post by: keebpleeb on Thu, 11 March 2021, 00:43:04
But to reply to LordHaveMercy:
I'm not sure whether a single space or split space would be right for me. But, given I tap space with my right index finger, maybe a single space would work for me... Anyone wanna chime in on this?
I'm sorry in advance for the impending rant, I'm actually really excited to talk about this and hear everyone else' opinions ;)
I think where you press your spacebar (and therefore your fn/layers) will determine your ease-of-transition into a 40% board. Hear me out....
I've thought alot about this because this will also be my first 40%, and I'm considering both options but heavily leaning towards dual space because of where I press the spacebar, and with what finger.
So if you're going to do a dual spacebar I think it makes sense to recognize what side of the spacebar you press dominantly (for me, that's my left thumb on the left side of the spacebar, for you that's your right index finger in the middle I think) and make that your primary space. Then, you can use the other spacebar as a function button so you can get to all the things you need to get to with a thumb press + (likely alpha) key, while maintaining the integrity of your dominant spacebar position. Or, If you're going single space, you can run the common Up Layer / Down Layer buttons flanking the single 2u space if you vibe with that center spacebar pressin' life, you madlad. That'll give you even more options to trigger with your thumbs, instead of having to do some complex chord to get to a second function layer, and will also maintain your original dominant spacebar positioning. To each his own, but after mimicking the way you'd have to press the spacebar with your right index, I think single space might make the most logical sense for you, and should make your transition less painful.
I plan on it being really weird for like 3 weeks, and after that it'll just become second nature.
I traditionally use a 65% layout (sometimes a TKL if I'm feeling saucy) but I decided to bust out my Model M for gits 'n shigs. Being that I primarily work on a Mac, a missing GUI seemed like quite the challenge to overcome. But I simply rebound the CMD key to the caps lock key and... I was surprised just how quickly I took to it, and how wonky it felt to go back to a more standard layout. I imagine you experienced something similar with the HHKB - 'tis a nonstandard layout, after all!
All that to say, I think if you get a 40% board you have to commit to it like... really commit to it, otherwise you're going to get frustrated and bail. It'll take some getting used to I'm sure of it, but when you've got everything sooooooo close together, I think it'll be super enjoyable.
p.s. the only thing I'm bummed about is that I intend to go dual space for this build, but the dual spaces are 2.25u (edited from 2.75u oops) a piece, and that's a really weird keysize and hard to find doubles of in lots of spacebar/40s kits. So keyset kitting for that layout might also be a limiting factor. I'm... still gonna do it, but I'll probably have to "settle" on a keycap set because GMK Peach blossom doesn't have kitting for this board and I just really really want an entirely pink keyboard and my heart is fkn breaking
Post by: ggggggg on Thu, 11 March 2021, 02:04:41
[spacebar musings]
You don't really need dedicated raise and lower keys. You could have left bar be space on tap and lyr1 on hold, right bar be backspace on tap and lyr2 on hold.
Also the bars are 2.25u long, not 2.75u, but your point about this being a board difficult to kit out still stands.
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Thu, 11 March 2021, 02:07:04
OP, any intents to do so? Or is the design set in stone?
Post by: keebpleeb on Thu, 11 March 2021, 11:26:52
[spacebar musings]
You don't really need dedicated raise and lower keys. You could have left bar be space on tap and lyr1 on hold, right bar be backspace on tap and lyr2 on hold.
Definitely - this'll be my first real foray into QMK keymapping, so I haven't yet explored "on hold" yet. I imagine once I go QMK, I'll find VIA very limiting (as I already do).
Also the bars are 2.25u long, not 2.75u, but your point about this being a board difficult to kit out still stands.
Yeah yeah my b - still damn near impossible to find 2x 2.25u spacebars in sets. I have the Kon Momo base already, and that set has a short bars addon that captures 2x 2.25u, but the bars are both different colors (sad), but it does have an extensive Nomad kit to fill in the remainder of the odd-sized mods... decisions decisions...
I'm still devastated that I can't have a full-on bubblegum pink keyboard :(
Post by: conternecticus on Thu, 11 March 2021, 21:47:08
Yeah yeah my b - still damn near impossible to find 2x 2.25u spacebars in sets. I have the Kon Momo base already, and that set has a short bars addon that captures 2x 2.25u, but the bars are both different colors (sad), but it does have an extensive Nomad kit to fill in the remainder of the odd-sized mods... decisions decisions...
I'm still devastated that I can't have a full-on bubblegum pink keyboard :(
I'm feeling the same. I think I'll have to resort to buying a spacebar kit of a different keyset to fill in the missing 2.25u spacebar, and the colors will not match 100% orz
Post by: Timception on Fri, 12 March 2021, 09:57:22
Post by: itsazly on Fri, 12 March 2021, 13:28:48
So is the gb still coming or done already?
I'd suggest joining the Discord for more updates, but prkns is hoping to go forward with the GB in about two weeks.
Here is his website: https://thisisfourteen.co/store/whimsy/
Post by: LordHaveMercy on Sun, 14 March 2021, 20:09:19
I'm curious - I don't think I've seen any conversation around the knob... anyone know if there are plans to add anything special? These renders with those customs got me feelin' some type-a way...
But to reply to LordHaveMercy:I'm not sure whether a single space or split space would be right for me. But, given I tap space with my right index finger, maybe a single space would work for me... Anyone wanna chime in on this?
I'm sorry in advance for the impending rant, I'm actually really excited to talk about this and hear everyone else' opinions ;)
I think where you press your spacebar (and therefore your fn/layers) will determine your ease-of-transition into a 40% board. Hear me out....
I've thought alot about this because this will also be my first 40%, and I'm considering both options but heavily leaning towards dual space because of where I press the spacebar, and with what finger.
So if you're going to do a dual spacebar I think it makes sense to recognize what side of the spacebar you press dominantly (for me, that's my left thumb on the left side of the spacebar, for you that's your right index finger in the middle I think) and make that your primary space. Then, you can use the other spacebar as a function button so you can get to all the things you need to get to with a thumb press + (likely alpha) key, while maintaining the integrity of your dominant spacebar position. Or, If you're going single space, you can run the common Up Layer / Down Layer buttons flanking the single 2u space if you vibe with that center spacebar pressin' life, you madlad. That'll give you even more options to trigger with your thumbs, instead of having to do some complex chord to get to a second function layer, and will also maintain your original dominant spacebar positioning. To each his own, but after mimicking the way you'd have to press the spacebar with your right index, I think single space might make the most logical sense for you, and should make your transition less painful.I am not a doctor this is not medical advice
I plan on it being really weird for like 3 weeks, and after that it'll just become second nature.
I traditionally use a 65% layout (sometimes a TKL if I'm feeling saucy) but I decided to bust out my Model M for gits 'n shigs. Being that I primarily work on a Mac, a missing GUI seemed like quite the challenge to overcome. But I simply rebound the CMD key to the caps lock key and... I was surprised just how quickly I took to it, and how wonky it felt to go back to a more standard layout. I imagine you experienced something similar with the HHKB - 'tis a nonstandard layout, after all!
All that to say, I think if you get a 40% board you have to commit to it like... really commit to it, otherwise you're going to get frustrated and bail. It'll take some getting used to I'm sure of it, but when you've got everything sooooooo close together, I think it'll be super enjoyable.
p.s. the only thing I'm bummed about is that I intend to go dual space for this build, but the dual spaces are 2.25u (edited from 2.75u oops) a piece, and that's a really weird keysize and hard to find doubles of in lots of spacebar/40s kits. So keyset kitting for that layout might also be a limiting factor. I'm... still gonna do it, but I'll probably have to "settle" on a keycap set because GMK Peach blossom doesn't have kitting for this board and I just really really want an entirely pink keyboard and my heart is fkn breaking
This is like the best and most helpful response I've ever read to a random couple of thoughts and questions I've had online. Thank you, KeebPleeb!! I'd give you a Platinum award if I could if this were Reddit!
Post by: xlSantos on Mon, 15 March 2021, 02:40:23
Post by: Eonday on Mon, 15 March 2021, 06:04:02
Post by: Eonday on Mon, 15 March 2021, 06:15:51
Post by: keebpleeb on Mon, 15 March 2021, 10:21:52
This is like the best and most helpful response I've ever read to a random couple of thoughts and questions I've had online. Thank you, KeebPleeb!! I'd give you a Platinum award if I could if this were Reddit!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm glad you connected with my musings - that must mean I'm at least kind of on track! Your question allowed me to put into words a lot of the disjointed thoughts I've been having about the switch to a 40%. You'll have to let me know if you end up picking up the board what layout you go with and how difficult it was to transition for you, plus any tips/tricks you pick up along the way!
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Mon, 15 March 2021, 17:56:06
You should come up with a list of recent GBs that will be compatible with the Whimsy :) I know dededecline's Aesthetic will support with the 40s kit, but that's all I know.This is like the best and most helpful response I've ever read to a random couple of thoughts and questions I've had online. Thank you, KeebPleeb!! I'd give you a Platinum award if I could if this were Reddit!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm glad you connected with my musings - that must mean I'm at least kind of on track! Your question allowed me to put into words a lot of the disjointed thoughts I've been having about the switch to a 40%. You'll have to let me know if you end up picking up the board what layout you go with and how difficult it was to transition for you, plus any tips/tricks you pick up along the way!
Also loved your comment :hug:
Post by: yukiburzm on Tue, 16 March 2021, 20:08:01
Post by: ktrezzi on Wed, 17 March 2021, 05:29:29
I am about to pull the trigger on this one, anyone have experience with 40% as a daily driver?
Post by: orb on Thu, 18 March 2021, 17:48:33
Post by: 28.8kbps on Fri, 19 March 2021, 11:26:37
Post by: AJPlus on Fri, 19 March 2021, 11:41:56
Post by: bvckcompton on Tue, 23 March 2021, 05:04:57
Post by: Ztox on Tue, 23 March 2021, 05:08:44
Post by: mihalski on Tue, 23 March 2021, 09:16:50
Is there render that demonstrates the aesthetic failure of an orthodox version?
Seems like it would be fine except for a level of "boringness".
Post by: Anorexious on Wed, 24 March 2021, 00:24:19
I just do quick research based on currently running GMK groub buy and it's hard to find 1.25 enter, 1.5 left shift and 2x 2.25u space
Post by: Newcomb on Wed, 24 March 2021, 16:09:08
Post by: nasp on Wed, 24 March 2021, 17:49:25
I really excited about this keyboard and would be my first 40% keyboard but I'm afraid, would I have a bad time finding keycaps set that suitable for this keeb?
I just do quick research based on currently running GMK groub buy and it's hard to find 1.25 enter, 1.5 left shift and 2x 2.25u space
DSS Sencillo (BoW) will have that and be reasonably priced. There should be a GH and Reddit post in the next couple weeks. For now, join the channel in the 40s Discord for more info.
Post by: bricks on Wed, 31 March 2021, 21:27:51
Post by: fruitykeeb on Wed, 31 March 2021, 21:46:21
Post by: conternecticus on Fri, 02 April 2021, 12:52:15
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/692179290996867072/826959444759674960/PXL_20210326_105152680.jpg)
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Fri, 02 April 2021, 12:53:06
For those who are not in the discord server, prkns posted some photos of the pink case prototype:Looks so good omgShow Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/692179290996867072/826959444759674960/PXL_20210326_105152680.jpg)
Post by: Selbor on Sat, 03 April 2021, 01:42:04
Post by: HungHingDaiLo on Sat, 03 April 2021, 01:50:25
Did this end already?
Hasn't even started yet.
Post by: ktrezzi on Fri, 09 April 2021, 02:53:47
Post by: AlfredK on Fri, 09 April 2021, 05:42:52
Post by: -Jerry- on Fri, 09 April 2021, 05:45:01
Any updates on the start of the GB? Website hasn't changed yet...14 days left says on the discord?
I haven't seen any, but on the other hand Prkns second child was due a couple of weeks ago, so I suspect he's very busy,
Post by: itsazly on Fri, 09 April 2021, 08:40:10
Any updates on the start of the GB? Website hasn't changed yet...14 days left says on the discord?
It's a meme at this point that it's "In 15 days."
Prkns has had family life and what not as well as main job hold ups I assume. The truth is, we don't know exactly when, but hopefully soon. The Discord will be the best place to find out when it actually happens, though.
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Wed, 14 April 2021, 20:05:54
Post by: Alga on Fri, 16 April 2021, 06:58:03
Post by: conternecticus on Mon, 19 April 2021, 04:09:23
Post by: UGunaLOSE on Mon, 19 April 2021, 07:24:56
Well done GLWIC!
Post by: HappyB0T on Mon, 19 April 2021, 21:39:01
Post by: Will_I_am344 on Tue, 20 April 2021, 02:42:06
This is what makes me want to go 40% for the first time as well.
Not sure if gonna go with SA or Cherry caps, and also trying to figure out how to modify all buttons I need for programming. So excited for this. Gonna put in lubed Zealios v2 with Kry 205g0.
Also thinking about a good 40 wrist rest
Post by: mr_fro2000 on Tue, 20 April 2021, 06:06:57
Post by: Sunki on Tue, 20 April 2021, 23:30:37
Post by: Eoen on Tue, 20 April 2021, 23:49:15
I am trying to use the GMK Metropolis R2 keycap, what is the layout of the "split space type"?
Youll need the base and 40's kit for proper compatibility with this board.
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 27 April 2021, 02:16:40
Post by: uwumi on Tue, 27 April 2021, 12:38:52
For those who are not in the discord server, prkns posted some photos of the pink case prototype:glad to see a prototype! i feel the pink is a bit off from what was shown in the original renders though--seems a bit warmer hue-wise.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/692179290996867072/826959444759674960/PXL_20210326_105152680.jpg)
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Wed, 28 April 2021, 16:29:38
Kind of sad because Whimsy really caught my eye and I would have entered the GB day 1, but seeing how prkns has a new baby, honestly, baby > keebs.
GLWGB and the baby mate :thumb:
I have the e-white and pink one on speed dial as soon as this goes live.
Post by: Rumblethumps on Wed, 28 April 2021, 16:50:57
Post by: conternecticus on Wed, 28 April 2021, 23:48:48
(https://i.imgur.com/IiERz8W.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ogS5S0Q.jpg)
Post by: uwumi on Thu, 29 April 2021, 07:06:24
Dave posted this in the Discord server a few hours ago:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/IiERz8W.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ogS5S0Q.jpg)
ahh, the pink did end up much warmer than the original renders. still a gorgeous color (and one that i'm definitely in for)!
Post by: Bonsa on Thu, 29 April 2021, 07:19:53
congratulations with the baby Prkns, and good luck with the GB :) glad to see lots of new people diving into 40's!
Post by: PixelBoba on Sat, 01 May 2021, 04:19:31
Post by: migrained on Sat, 01 May 2021, 10:13:36
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Sat, 15 May 2021, 18:19:47
Post by: Extra Fox on Sat, 15 May 2021, 19:16:17
Post by: Madzuka on Sun, 16 May 2021, 04:16:39
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 18 May 2021, 09:51:59
/s
Post by: clacklabs on Wed, 26 May 2021, 13:21:14
Post by: Tomn on Fri, 28 May 2021, 20:16:36
Post by: Binyu on Wed, 09 June 2021, 23:48:12
Post by: TheWonderBubble on Thu, 10 June 2021, 02:43:25
And here I am, thinking I would never want a 40%. I was sorely mistaken...
Same here, I don't even know what it is exactly but this is the first time I've looked at a 40% and thought "yes, I need that."
Post by: eljudio42 on Sat, 12 June 2021, 23:34:49
Post by: ThiccAntecc on Mon, 14 June 2021, 08:24:58
As of 06/13 or 13/06 (for the normals) the gb still hasn't happened yet. We're still all patiently waiting.
On the Fourteen website (the creator's store) it says the group buy run until April 30, 2021. Although that might also be an old an un-updated date, since a page for a GB that actually happened - DSA 1930 - looks different... I am just really not sure what it up with this project :-[
Post by: Neely_12 on Mon, 14 June 2021, 15:10:52
I believe that the creator had a baby recently? Not 100% sure, but yh it is sad to see it taking this long.As of 06/13 or 13/06 (for the normals) the gb still hasn't happened yet. We're still all patiently waiting.
On the Fourteen website (the creator's store) it says the group buy run until April 30, 2021. Although that might also be an old an un-updated date, since a page for a GB that actually happened - DSA 1930 - looks different... I am just really not sure what it up with this project :-[
Post by: HappyB0T on Tue, 13 July 2021, 11:59:51
July 2021
Post by: mangostan on Wed, 04 August 2021, 01:15:20
Post by: marzipan on Wed, 04 August 2021, 04:19:50
Post by: Bub on Wed, 04 August 2021, 07:36:54
Post by: eljudio42 on Tue, 10 August 2021, 15:47:45
Post by: Rusopolous on Mon, 16 August 2021, 16:47:25
Post by: Sorvar on Thu, 19 August 2021, 01:56:04
Came across this on accident, but this is what Bob Ross would call a "happy accident". Glad I found this before it disappeared or something. A lot of 40% keyboards have been catching my eyes lately and this seems absolutely perfect. I understand that things in life happen so I can wait for this to come to fruition.
Thank you for this info. I was very confussed by the dates on the website. Hopefully this board will have a smooth production once it's finished.
Will deff get one!
Post by: applepieeeeeeee on Thu, 16 September 2021, 15:38:47
Post by: pool on Thu, 16 September 2021, 16:16:14
Post by: Mecxs on Fri, 17 September 2021, 00:50:07
The last big announcements were in Feb / Mar this year. Since then prkns has posted a few photos of some stacked acrylic cases on the discord and made a couple of comments about still being committed, but there are no updates, no clear progress, and no clear communication of a schedule.
It may happen at some time in the future, but even if it does the whole IC process will likely need to be restarted and the design reevaluated. The original price of $235 was quoted at a time when materials were much cheaper than they are today. So even if Prkns wakes up tomorrow and is ready to get to work, it's not like the GB will suddenly just start.
If it runs you'll end up hearing about it but trying to keep the hype going indefinitely is going to exhaust you. Pretend it's been called off, and if you're wrong then you get a happy surprise.
Post by: norm on Sat, 18 September 2021, 13:09:16
Abandoned is probably too strong a word, but it's indefinitely delayed and not being actively worked on.
The last big announcements were in Feb / Mar this year. Since then prkns has posted a few photos of some stacked acrylic cases on the discord and made a couple of comments about still being committed, but there are no updates, no clear progress, and no clear communication of a schedule.
It may happen at some time in the future, but even if it does the whole IC process will likely need to be restarted and the design reevaluated. The original price of $235 was quoted at a time when materials were much cheaper than they are today. So even if Prkns wakes up tomorrow and is ready to get to work, it's not like the GB will suddenly just start.
If it runs you'll end up hearing about it but trying to keep the hype going indefinitely is going to exhaust you. Pretend it's been called off, and if you're wrong then you get a happy surprise.
Hey, at least people got some sweet render material for their keycap ICs
Post by: km96 on Sun, 19 September 2021, 14:42:46
Post by: Transistor on Sat, 06 November 2021, 13:57:41
I was looking forward to buying this but the last update was a bit ago on the discord server.
:-\
Thanks,
Transistor
Post by: Mecxs on Sat, 06 November 2021, 20:55:13
Post by: hagiwaraDaisuke on Sat, 06 November 2021, 21:56:29
It's off.
Wait it's really off? the discord server is so active
Post by: Mecxs on Sat, 06 November 2021, 23:39:44
Post by: AdoraAmi97 on Thu, 11 November 2021, 12:21:37
Post by: Voaraq on Thu, 11 November 2021, 14:33:37
Post by: Mecxs on Thu, 11 November 2021, 17:36:33
Post by: Voaraq on Fri, 12 November 2021, 02:39:34
MB-44 extras on Friday, Nov 19.
Thank you, Frank Zappa!
Post by: Peteex on Wed, 17 November 2021, 19:09:53
Post by: Peteex on Wed, 17 November 2021, 19:11:35
Post by: Transistor on Wed, 17 November 2021, 19:13:39
Hello can i still buy it now? im really like this design xD
Hello,Can I still buy it now? i m really like this design! :-[ :-[
No, it is still in production. I am very sure you will know when it's done.
Post by: Peteex on Wed, 17 November 2021, 19:18:07
:-[ OK,thxHello can i still buy it now? im really like this design xDHello,Can I still buy it now? i m really like this design! :-[ :-[
No, it is still in production. I am very sure you will know when it's done.
Post by: Transistor on Wed, 17 November 2021, 19:20:00
:-[ OK,thxHello can i still buy it now? im really like this design xDHello,Can I still buy it now? i m really like this design! :-[ :-[
No, it is still in production. I am very sure you will know when it's done.
Some people think it's off so don't get your hopes high :(
Post by: Peteex on Wed, 17 November 2021, 19:24:15
Actually,That's what I think too:-[ OK,thxHello can i still buy it now? im really like this design xDHello,Can I still buy it now? i m really like this design! :-[ :-[No, it is still in production. I am very sure you will know when it's done.
Some people think it's off so don't get your hopes high :(
Post by: ktrezzi on Fri, 19 November 2021, 02:50:08
Post by: Alejo1707 on Tue, 30 November 2021, 10:13:44
On Discord there is already a member trying to recreate the project since the OG guy hasn't been online and silent for two months
Yes! There is a person who might spearhead the first Whimsy, but it will not happen this year, if anything he is trying to be polite towards Prnks creativity and has tried to get in touch with him. Once we can confirm the project is dead, or on-hold indefnitely, I am most certain he will move on with a formal IC and start doing all the appropriate stuff an upstanding member should do. Keep your eyes peeled next year!
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 30 November 2021, 17:28:33
Post by: conternecticus on Mon, 27 December 2021, 06:02:07
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jaspertandy#9501:
Hi everyone,
Firstly I want to apologise for the influx of spam in the last few days. For some reason I wasn't getting tagged in these messages so that I actually saw them, and you had to put up with them for longer than you should. I've installed a plugin recommended by ecto that should help stem this, but please tag me directly if you see more of it so that I definitely get notified to delete it.
Secondly, I know a lot of people are wondering what the hell is going on, with varying degrees of speculation, and that's totally fair. Hopefully this message will serve to clear some things up a bit. I don't want to speak for Perkins, so I'm going to keep that to a minimum, but I will say that he's been going through a very tough time personally for the last 6+ months, and keyboards haven't been on his radar. Whilst I understand that this leads to frustration at a lack of knowing what's going on with Fourteen's projects, it is what it is (I know 1930 people are going to be on the verge of a rage right now - please hold your thoughts for a second, I am getting to 1930).
So what's going on with Whimsy? Perkins made the decision right out the gate that he wasn't going to take any money for Whimsy until there were prototypes in-hand. It was always going to be the case that manufacturing was going to be done as close to 100% UK-based as possible. Perkins paid for case prototypes to be fabricated, and the quality was pretty shocking. What's more, the fabricator admitted that the quality was poor and Perkins is currently in a lengthy game of email tennis with them to try and get his money back, or get the prototypes done properly. Some of you may be thinking "well if he'd run a GB, there'd be budget for this", and whilst that may be true; just because you have a bit of cash, doesn't mean people should get away with doing a crappy job, so that would've just increased the pressure of getting money back, finding a new fabricator, having a full time job and a young family...
This in particular was always meant to be a passion project that was made available to other people, rather than something with a load of commitment and stress attached to it (and look how that turned out!)
And what's going on with 1930?! There was some complexity around the timing of full packages landing with us. We've blown right through every reasonable deadline now, purely as a result of the timing of all of the above and below, and I know it's not good enough. Ecto has offered to help with the shipping so we can get these sets out ASAP, and I'm planning to talk to him right after I post this message to see about making that happen. Once again, I am really sorry about how this has shaken out - it's been a perfect storm and I know a lot of you are mad and you have every right to be, but we're going to sort it out as soon as possible.
And finally: until Perkins is ready to come back and continue Whimsy at a reasonable pace, I will be temporarily trying to field questions from as many people as possible. If you have any questions, feel free to DM me or tag me in channels and I will either answer your questions, or get you an answer as soon as I can. You can literally ask me anything and I will try to get you an answer. I also have a very busy full time job but I will do my best to get quick and accurate answers to any of your questions.
I'm sorry that I can't offer you a more fun update than this, and that it took so long for this update to happen, but people's mental health always has to come first, and I can't personally write updates for you until I know what the situation is. Thanks for understanding, and if you don't, I'm sorry that this was a waste of your time.
Jasper
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 31 December 2021, 04:25:59
Guess I should pass the announcement made on Discord here.
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jaspertandy#9501:
Hi everyone,
Firstly I want to apologise for the influx of spam in the last few days. For some reason I wasn't getting tagged in these messages so that I actually saw them, and you had to put up with them for longer than you should. I've installed a plugin recommended by ecto that should help stem this, but please tag me directly if you see more of it so that I definitely get notified to delete it.
Secondly, I know a lot of people are wondering what the hell is going on, with varying degrees of speculation, and that's totally fair. Hopefully this message will serve to clear some things up a bit. I don't want to speak for Perkins, so I'm going to keep that to a minimum, but I will say that he's been going through a very tough time personally for the last 6+ months, and keyboards haven't been on his radar. Whilst I understand that this leads to frustration at a lack of knowing what's going on with Fourteen's projects, it is what it is (I know 1930 people are going to be on the verge of a rage right now - please hold your thoughts for a second, I am getting to 1930).
So what's going on with Whimsy? Perkins made the decision right out the gate that he wasn't going to take any money for Whimsy until there were prototypes in-hand. It was always going to be the case that manufacturing was going to be done as close to 100% UK-based as possible. Perkins paid for case prototypes to be fabricated, and the quality was pretty shocking. What's more, the fabricator admitted that the quality was poor and Perkins is currently in a lengthy game of email tennis with them to try and get his money back, or get the prototypes done properly. Some of you may be thinking "well if he'd run a GB, there'd be budget for this", and whilst that may be true; just because you have a bit of cash, doesn't mean people should get away with doing a crappy job, so that would've just increased the pressure of getting money back, finding a new fabricator, having a full time job and a young family...
This in particular was always meant to be a passion project that was made available to other people, rather than something with a load of commitment and stress attached to it (and look how that turned out!)
And what's going on with 1930?! There was some complexity around the timing of full packages landing with us. We've blown right through every reasonable deadline now, purely as a result of the timing of all of the above and below, and I know it's not good enough. Ecto has offered to help with the shipping so we can get these sets out ASAP, and I'm planning to talk to him right after I post this message to see about making that happen. Once again, I am really sorry about how this has shaken out - it's been a perfect storm and I know a lot of you are mad and you have every right to be, but we're going to sort it out as soon as possible.
And finally: until Perkins is ready to come back and continue Whimsy at a reasonable pace, I will be temporarily trying to field questions from as many people as possible. If you have any questions, feel free to DM me or tag me in channels and I will either answer your questions, or get you an answer as soon as I can. You can literally ask me anything and I will try to get you an answer. I also have a very busy full time job but I will do my best to get quick and accurate answers to any of your questions.
I'm sorry that I can't offer you a more fun update than this, and that it took so long for this update to happen, but people's mental health always has to come first, and I can't personally write updates for you until I know what the situation is. Thanks for understanding, and if you don't, I'm sorry that this was a waste of your time.
Jasper
Thank you for updating the thread with this info, it is very useful to know. I for one do not want to be the guy who puts more stress onto anyone venturing into making their own keeb for others to enjoy. I will keep watching and in hope that this project will again one day fly, until then, breath and don't take any of this too seriously.
Post by: __init__ on Sat, 01 January 2022, 05:42:18
Guess I should pass the announcement made on Discord here.
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jaspertandy#9501:
Hi everyone,
Firstly I want to apologise for the influx of spam in the last few days. For some reason I wasn't getting tagged in these messages so that I actually saw them, and you had to put up with them for longer than you should. I've installed a plugin recommended by ecto that should help stem this, but please tag me directly if you see more of it so that I definitely get notified to delete it.
Secondly, I know a lot of people are wondering what the hell is going on, with varying degrees of speculation, and that's totally fair. Hopefully this message will serve to clear some things up a bit. I don't want to speak for Perkins, so I'm going to keep that to a minimum, but I will say that he's been going through a very tough time personally for the last 6+ months, and keyboards haven't been on his radar. Whilst I understand that this leads to frustration at a lack of knowing what's going on with Fourteen's projects, it is what it is (I know 1930 people are going to be on the verge of a rage right now - please hold your thoughts for a second, I am getting to 1930).
So what's going on with Whimsy? Perkins made the decision right out the gate that he wasn't going to take any money for Whimsy until there were prototypes in-hand. It was always going to be the case that manufacturing was going to be done as close to 100% UK-based as possible. Perkins paid for case prototypes to be fabricated, and the quality was pretty shocking. What's more, the fabricator admitted that the quality was poor and Perkins is currently in a lengthy game of email tennis with them to try and get his money back, or get the prototypes done properly. Some of you may be thinking "well if he'd run a GB, there'd be budget for this", and whilst that may be true; just because you have a bit of cash, doesn't mean people should get away with doing a crappy job, so that would've just increased the pressure of getting money back, finding a new fabricator, having a full time job and a young family...
This in particular was always meant to be a passion project that was made available to other people, rather than something with a load of commitment and stress attached to it (and look how that turned out!)
And what's going on with 1930?! There was some complexity around the timing of full packages landing with us. We've blown right through every reasonable deadline now, purely as a result of the timing of all of the above and below, and I know it's not good enough. Ecto has offered to help with the shipping so we can get these sets out ASAP, and I'm planning to talk to him right after I post this message to see about making that happen. Once again, I am really sorry about how this has shaken out - it's been a perfect storm and I know a lot of you are mad and you have every right to be, but we're going to sort it out as soon as possible.
And finally: until Perkins is ready to come back and continue Whimsy at a reasonable pace, I will be temporarily trying to field questions from as many people as possible. If you have any questions, feel free to DM me or tag me in channels and I will either answer your questions, or get you an answer as soon as I can. You can literally ask me anything and I will try to get you an answer. I also have a very busy full time job but I will do my best to get quick and accurate answers to any of your questions.
I'm sorry that I can't offer you a more fun update than this, and that it took so long for this update to happen, but people's mental health always has to come first, and I can't personally write updates for you until I know what the situation is. Thanks for understanding, and if you don't, I'm sorry that this was a waste of your time.
Jasper
Thank you for updating the thread with this info, it is very useful to know. I for one do not want to be the guy who puts more stress onto anyone venturing into making their own keeb for others to enjoy. I will keep watching and in hope that this project will again one day fly, until then, breath and don't take any of this too seriously.
100% I don't understand why some people are getting upset over someone sharing an idea they had for a keyboard. If this was post-GB with no communication/information, sure, but my understanding is that an IC is very non-committal (quite literally the name, INTEREST CHECK).
I look forward to when WHIMSY will be eventually released.
Post by: Hedgey on Sat, 01 January 2022, 10:02:38
100% I don't understand why some people are getting upset over someone sharing an idea they had for a keyboard. If this was post-GB with no communication/information, sure, but my understanding is that an IC is very non-committal (quite literally the name, INTEREST CHECK).
I look forward to when WHIMSY will be eventually released.
It is an Interest Check, but unfortunately with the way a lot of keysets are run, most people assume if it's in IC it's obviously going to GB.
Post by: Nurseh on Sun, 02 January 2022, 23:22:26
I feel like people were just excited for it, but I agree that there's no need to be upset. If its meant to be it will come eventually for people.Guess I should pass the announcement made on Discord here.
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jaspertandy#9501:
Hi everyone,
Firstly I want to apologise for the influx of spam in the last few days. For some reason I wasn't getting tagged in these messages so that I actually saw them, and you had to put up with them for longer than you should. I've installed a plugin recommended by ecto that should help stem this, but please tag me directly if you see more of it so that I definitely get notified to delete it.
Secondly, I know a lot of people are wondering what the hell is going on, with varying degrees of speculation, and that's totally fair. Hopefully this message will serve to clear some things up a bit. I don't want to speak for Perkins, so I'm going to keep that to a minimum, but I will say that he's been going through a very tough time personally for the last 6+ months, and keyboards haven't been on his radar. Whilst I understand that this leads to frustration at a lack of knowing what's going on with Fourteen's projects, it is what it is (I know 1930 people are going to be on the verge of a rage right now - please hold your thoughts for a second, I am getting to 1930).
So what's going on with Whimsy? Perkins made the decision right out the gate that he wasn't going to take any money for Whimsy until there were prototypes in-hand. It was always going to be the case that manufacturing was going to be done as close to 100% UK-based as possible. Perkins paid for case prototypes to be fabricated, and the quality was pretty shocking. What's more, the fabricator admitted that the quality was poor and Perkins is currently in a lengthy game of email tennis with them to try and get his money back, or get the prototypes done properly. Some of you may be thinking "well if he'd run a GB, there'd be budget for this", and whilst that may be true; just because you have a bit of cash, doesn't mean people should get away with doing a crappy job, so that would've just increased the pressure of getting money back, finding a new fabricator, having a full time job and a young family...
This in particular was always meant to be a passion project that was made available to other people, rather than something with a load of commitment and stress attached to it (and look how that turned out!)
And what's going on with 1930?! There was some complexity around the timing of full packages landing with us. We've blown right through every reasonable deadline now, purely as a result of the timing of all of the above and below, and I know it's not good enough. Ecto has offered to help with the shipping so we can get these sets out ASAP, and I'm planning to talk to him right after I post this message to see about making that happen. Once again, I am really sorry about how this has shaken out - it's been a perfect storm and I know a lot of you are mad and you have every right to be, but we're going to sort it out as soon as possible.
And finally: until Perkins is ready to come back and continue Whimsy at a reasonable pace, I will be temporarily trying to field questions from as many people as possible. If you have any questions, feel free to DM me or tag me in channels and I will either answer your questions, or get you an answer as soon as I can. You can literally ask me anything and I will try to get you an answer. I also have a very busy full time job but I will do my best to get quick and accurate answers to any of your questions.
I'm sorry that I can't offer you a more fun update than this, and that it took so long for this update to happen, but people's mental health always has to come first, and I can't personally write updates for you until I know what the situation is. Thanks for understanding, and if you don't, I'm sorry that this was a waste of your time.
Jasper
Thank you for updating the thread with this info, it is very useful to know. I for one do not want to be the guy who puts more stress onto anyone venturing into making their own keeb for others to enjoy. I will keep watching and in hope that this project will again one day fly, until then, breath and don't take any of this too seriously.
100% I don't understand why some people are getting upset over someone sharing an idea they had for a keyboard. If this was post-GB with no communication/information, sure, but my understanding is that an IC is very non-committal (quite literally the name, INTEREST CHECK).
I look forward to when WHIMSY will be eventually released.
Post by: koe on Mon, 31 January 2022, 22:44:11
Post by: DeMechanica on Mon, 31 January 2022, 23:49:29
I’m looking forward to when this restarts, if he gets to that place.