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Offline ynrozturk

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Poker 3
« on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:04:37 »
Just somewhat announced on the Vortex Facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:06:51 »
Back to PCB mount...
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:10:02 »
PCB mount in a low-profile case?  I am not sold on that.  I can't imagine many people want to see that red PCB.   :-\

Other than that, it looks interesting.  Seems like they're saying it comes stock with a metal case? 

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:12:50 »
Looks like it, which means it'll probably be at least $200 when it comes out. And I'm not a fan of the PCB mount.
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:14:09 »
I don't mind putting in my own plate.  Not a compelling upgrade from my 3 Poker X's though.
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:15:17 »
I don't mind putting in my own plate.  Not a compelling upgrade from my 3 Poker X's though.

Would be ripe for a plate-mod as a PCB-mount board though, no? (Plus good for those who like opening switches in situ, I guess)

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:24:10 »
I'm hoping for a plate mount option. I'm also hoping this pcb will be compatible with existing poker cases.

Full programmability would be the icing on the cake.

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:24:22 »
Vortex just said that the pictures were just engineering samples, and that the final keyboard will indeed have a metal plate.
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:33:11 »
Yes I like putting in my own plate (like you said for modding switches but TBH I pretty much never do it!).

Full programmability (including LED's, etc) would be awesome, depending on the language/tools available to do it.  I have seen some that were very tedious to program; kindof takes the fun out of it.

I can't imagine that they would make it incompatible with their old cases.

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:37:06 »
whoever runs the vortex FB page said that it's going to be plate mounted once it's released

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:42:48 »
Just somewhat announced on the Vortex Facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear


The overall keyboard looks rather nice to be honest, might have to pick one up.
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 10:43:54 »
Just somewhat announced on the Vortex Facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/Vortexgear


The overall keyboard looks rather nice, don't like the visible PCB though.


Not for me ;_;, damnit.

The pictures you see now are engineering samples. Vortex responded in the FB comments that there will be a plate on the final version.

It supposedly has full programability (including full FN and PN layer programmability)
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:08:28 »

The pictures you see now are engineering samples. Vortex responded in the FB comments that there will be a plate on the final version.


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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:11:04 »

The pictures you see now are engineering samples. Vortex responded in the FB comments that there will be a plate on the final version.


I stand corrected then!

Good, low profile + plateless would have been an interesting choice
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:14:02 »
So, it it going to have a metal case and doubleshot backlit pbt keycaps?

Insta buy for me regardless but that is kinda what it seems like.

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:16:05 »
PCB mount in a low-profile case?  I am not sold on that.  I can't imagine many people want to see that red PCB.   :-\

Agreed. I had enough of that PCB on my Poker X lol.

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:32:42 »
Nice! Stock plates this time. No more flexing when I bottom right on out :p and I love those low profile cases
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:36:22 »
They Finally are using the low profile cases! I won't have to keep buying pure limited cases for mine nice..

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 11:41:45 »
It's hard to justify it since I have a Pure, but the programmability on the keys AND the LEDs is tempting.

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 12:45:35 »
Only thing missing now is the split BS and split right shift keys... Poker 4 for me unless they can make this happen for the 3!
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:13:57 »
PCB mount :blank:

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:17:34 »
Something wrong with pcb mount? some prefer it to plate mount  :thumb:

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:18:37 »
IT'S PLATE MOUNT

"This is an engineering sample, the final version will have a plate"

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:19:27 »
IT'S PLATE MOUNT

"This is an engineering sample, the final version will have a plate"

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:23:50 »
Interesting.

One thing I like about my new Ducky Mini and older Poker is the FN Arrow keys located on OKL; instead of this WASD. Maybe they can be relocated with the programmable setup.

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 13:43:07 »
Hmm not sure how I feel about a red pcb


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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:11:14 »
Hmm not sure how I feel about a red pcb

Are we even sure that we'll be able to see it in the final version?

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:16:38 »
Hmm not sure how I feel about a red pcb

Are we even sure that we'll be able to see it in the final version?

It won't be seen in the final version.

Vortex's reveal of the Poker 3, I'm finding, was handled rather poorly which goes to show that Taiwan's strengths are not in marketing. My brethren (I'm also Taiwanese) should just stick to ECE and hire out of the country for their marketing needs.

I have seen this question asked about 300 times over the course of this morning and it should have been mentioned in their initial reveal post. lol
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:25:03 »
Full programmability would be wonderful.

The dip switch to turn the windows key into a fn key is nice
but the PN key needs to go somewhere much less used so I can get my super key back.

Colemak in the main layer and the ability to use capslock for ctrl or backspace is another annoying piece.

That said I am finding my poker a real pleasant improvement over my trust old di novo ten keyless.   I missed the bluetooth and bought a dedicated tenkey pad for the top corner of my workspace but the focus on maintianing a home row position that the 60% gives you is stellar.
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:27:09 »
it should have been mentioned in their initial reveal post. lol

They shouldn't have mentioned anything.  They should have posted actual photos of the product as it will be for final production.  :facepalm:

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:29:37 »
it should have been mentioned in their initial reveal post. lol

They shouldn't have mentioned anything.  They should have posted actual photos of the product as it will be for final production.  :facepalm:

Yeah.

I guess they're trying to build hype or something.

It's probably still a ways off.
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 14:46:03 »
It seems like a poor business decision to show this off so early - the Poker 2 is still enjoying healthy sales, no?

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:09:15 »
Yeah I believe so. I am excited to see the final product and the price. Hopefully it is cheaper then making your own custom 60% with an alu case.

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:09:26 »
Hope they offer a non low profile  case.    Wonder if they are going to launch the new PURE's around the same time?

The new PURE's are supposed to be offered with two different case options.
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:23:56 »
Please don't use that logo Vortex :/ The backwards 'E' looks tacky.

So it will be fully programmable?

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:29:21 »
Please don't use that logo Vortex :/ The backwards 'E' looks tacky.

So it will be fully programmable?

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:47:55 »
I'm not sure how the price can go down on these boards.   Unless they use open source and arduino to develop full programmability then someone has to be paid to develop and maintain the code.   It seems like many of these 60% keyboards are all being churned out of the same manufacturing plant with different labels and different roms on the same infrastructure.

The poker 2 rom is already usb flashable but Vortex has not released any kind of configurator to support it.   I suspect that they do not own the underlying software and simply provide their specification to the manufacturer or some such thing.



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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 15:51:02 »
Pcb mount with leds... Ruins the pcb mount advantage since you can't remove the switchtops cause the led is in the way... :I
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 16:03:24 »
3 programmable layers is confirmed.

So, presumably the standard layer is now also programmable? What I'd love to know is if the Pn key can finally be moved.

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 16:10:54 »
3 programmable layers is confirmed.

So, presumably the standard layer is now also programmable? What I'd love to know is if the Pn key can finally be moved.

No, it's the standard layer, then 3 programmable layers.

Pcb mount with leds... Ruins the pcb mount advantage since you can't remove the switchtops cause the led is in the way... :I

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 16:27:02 »
It seems like a poor business decision to show this off so early - the Poker 2 is still enjoying healthy sales, no?

It does seem to be more of an "enthusiast" model. Lower profile case, led variability, several programmable layers...

I'd be very interested in knowing if the lower profile cases will fit the poker 2s, if they do they would present an interesting entry into the market with stock cases to paint/experiment on.

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 16:28:31 »
It seems like a poor business decision to show this off so early - the Poker 2 is still enjoying healthy sales, no?

It does seem to be more of an "enthusiast" model. Lower profile case, led variability, several programmable layers...

I'd be very interested in knowing if the lower profile cases will fit the poker 2s, if they do they would present an interesting entry into the market with stock cases to paint/experiment on.

I could see them keeping the poker 2 as a lower price point option, then having the poker 3 with the upgrades as it would be quite a bit more expensive.

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 18:24:51 »
It seems like a poor business decision to show this off so early - the Poker 2 is still enjoying healthy sales, no?

It does seem to be more of an "enthusiast" model. Lower profile case, led variability, several programmable layers...

I'd be very interested in knowing if the lower profile cases will fit the poker 2s, if they do they would present an interesting entry into the market with stock cases to paint/experiment on.

I could see them keeping the poker 2 as a lower price point option, then having the poker 3 with the upgrades as it would be quite a bit more expensive.

Didn't they do something similar with the X and the 2?
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 11 November 2014, 23:42:04 »
Hmm! Seems interesting! :)

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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 12 November 2014, 00:10:14 »
Damn i have alot of 60% already but if this has mouse buttons my interest shall be peaked!

Big fan of the low profile cases, ballsy for them to ship them stock like this though due to how easily the stems can snap now. The low profile cases can be annoyng when transporting your keyboard, catch the bottom of a cap on your bag and snap!

But i like this, just give me mouse buttons!
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 12 November 2014, 07:01:25 »
Wat!  Mouse buttons!?
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« Reply #46 on: Wed, 12 November 2014, 07:11:10 »
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« Reply #47 on: Wed, 12 November 2014, 07:12:48 »
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 12 November 2014, 07:30:43 »
An indicator for the WASD lock will also be necessary , it's the only thing that drive me nuts on a daily usage .
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Re: Poker 3
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 12 November 2014, 10:56:57 »
An indicator for the WASD lock will also be necessary , it's the only thing that drive me nuts on a daily usage .

A million times this. Although I'd like a setting that disables it entirely as both the layer locks are annoying when accidentally triggered.