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Title: [IC]GMK Camping (GB live!)
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 19 November 2017, 11:56:52
08/01/2018:

GB is LIVE!

I'm locking this IC thread

Please move the discussion to the GB thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93441.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93441.0)

Thank you all!

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01/01/2018 Rev.6:

Changed green novelty keys to maroon

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11/12/2017 Rev.5:

Added:

- Maroon numpad return key

This should be the final kit design, and we are looking at $175 for base kit.

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01/12/2017 Rev.4:

Added:

- R1 1u translucent campfire novelty

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30/11/2017 More renders from thesiscamper:

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28/11/2017 Rev3:

Removed:

- R1 1u green watster novelty key

Added:

- R1 1u green ~`
- R2 1.5u green |\
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5

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27/11/2017:

Put one of these in your profile signature to show support on GMK Camping!! :)) :))
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26/11/2017 Rev. 2:

More
Removed:
- R1 1u creamy white F5-F8
- R1 1u green ~`
- R2 1.5u green |\
- R3 1.75u stepped Control, regular caps lock(windowed)
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5
- R4 1u 00
- 6u Spacebars

Added:
- R4 1u End
- R1 1u Green watster novelty key
- R4 2u shift

Changed:
- R3 1u iso key changed to primary legend
- Green spacebars in the spacebar kit changed to maroon

Pls tell me what you think  :)

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24/11/2017 updated:

Hi guys,

I hope you have a great thanksgiving and got some awesome stuff with the black friday sales.

I've made a Google form to collect votes for the keys that I'm considering to remove so that we can bring down the pricing of GMK Camping a little bit.

Please vote, I will be really appreciated!

https://goo.gl/forms/MyXc3IQdSjFgzErH3 (https://goo.gl/forms/MyXc3IQdSjFgzErH3)

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Hi fellow geek hackers,

Hereby I'd like to introduce you GMK Camping.
This was planned after the success run of SA Camping, and we finally have the time to settle this down.
First of all, Camping was created by Monkey six with ideas came from friends among the Camp group. It was meant to be a private project within the group. I posted the “IC” here and received a lot of interests which drove the project to be opened to the public. After Camping was delivered, I received questions from different resources asking if we will run that again in the future. Unfortunately, Camping was meant to be a one-off run to celebrate the one-year anniversary of Camp group. As alternative, I talked to the original creator Monkey six, and we are providing the GMK version of Camping in return of your support during SA Camping.
We hope you like this.  :) And please feel free to provide any suggetions.

Specs:
Profile: Cherry 112344
Manufacturer: GMK
Material: ABS double shot
Colors: Custom colors per SA Camping (SP colors: VF/WCK/RBC)

Special thanks to our homie Oblotzky for renders
More
Base kit:

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Spacebars kit:

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GMK Camping on keebs:

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Pictures of SA Camping by Monkey six:

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Hazzula on Sun, 19 November 2017, 12:00:57
Any chance for an ergo/ortho kit?

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: avid on Sun, 19 November 2017, 12:01:51
Oh my god. SA Camping is one of my favourite sets ever, but cant use since im an ISO user.
This is FANTASTIC news. love the set.  :thumb:

Is there any plans where you are planning to run this set? I hope there will be a EU proxy.

Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 19 November 2017, 12:05:07
Oh my god. SA Camping is one of my favourite sets ever, but cant use since im an ISO user.
This is FANTASTIC news. love the set.  :thumb:

Is there any plans where you are planning to run this set? I hope there will be a EU proxy.

There will be a EU proxy for sure  :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Wolf123rt on Sun, 19 November 2017, 12:10:47
I'm definitely buying
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: avid on Sun, 19 November 2017, 12:17:59
Set looks very good. Only thing id wish for was a green ISO enter (but if only one - the red is good). Usually not liking novelties but i like every single one here.

You seems to have the base-kit almost perfect. Is this something that is close to being ran or are we looking at Q1 18?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: braidn on Sun, 19 November 2017, 12:25:34
Quite interested! Excited to see the SA set come over to GMK.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 19 November 2017, 12:27:55
Set looks very good. Only thing id wish for was a green ISO enter (but if only one - the red is good). Usually not liking novelties but i like every single one here.

You seems to have the base-kit almost perfect. Is this something that is close to being ran or are we looking at Q1 18?

We've been preparing this for months. So yeah..this is actually ready to go, we'll make modifications per IC feedback as I'm talking to vendors and GMK for group buy details.
The actual launch date depends on regional vendors and how well the pricing progress goes.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: xondat on Sun, 19 November 2017, 12:28:50
Interested, depends on vendor ;D
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 19 November 2017, 12:30:45
Interested, depends on vendor ;D

 :-X
Any suggetion?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: koduh on Sun, 19 November 2017, 13:02:12
HYPE TRAIN! I'm in for this set.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: mgsickler on Sun, 19 November 2017, 13:07:47
Oh don’t do this to my wallet.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: friglesnart on Sun, 19 November 2017, 13:18:29
YES! This would be a dream came true. Kits look good too!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: donutcat on Sun, 19 November 2017, 13:22:53
Mmmm, green GMK sets, my favorite. You don't happen to be poking around for NA proxies do you :P
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 19 November 2017, 13:25:17
Any chance for an ergo/ortho kit?

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We can provide ergo/ortho kit, but the problem is MOQ since we are using custom colors.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: bthezebra on Sun, 19 November 2017, 13:30:09
So in for this!

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: mgsickler on Sun, 19 November 2017, 13:36:49
Interested, depends on vendor ;D

 :-X
Any suggetion?

If you’re really looking for a NA vendor. I’m game. :-)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: mudcakehoney on Sun, 19 November 2017, 13:43:16
Amazing! Still want an SA set as well. Do you think this will drive the price up or down on the aftermarket sets?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: xondat on Sun, 19 November 2017, 14:09:32
Interested, depends on vendor ;D

 :-X
Any suggetion?

Someone with a good reputation that ships quickly and doesn't screw people on pricing... Good luck :'(
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Owl- on Sun, 19 November 2017, 14:12:35
Glad to see this done in Cherry, not fond of SA profile even though it looks fab on SA. Also pleased to see split-space in the spacebars kit :)

Who have you looked at for EU proxy? mechboards, candykeys or mykeyboard.eu are good.

One request, adding a 1u R4 'Hack' key to the base kit would be great!

Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: ricrackem on Sun, 19 November 2017, 14:15:26
Yes please, this looks perfect. I love the color scheme of Camping but GMK is life so it's never been worth the investment to me.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Lotsati on Sun, 19 November 2017, 14:18:01
Guaranteed buy from me! :D
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: poolside on Sun, 19 November 2017, 14:18:07
One request, adding a 1u R4 'Hack' key to the base kit would be great!

The set could also benefit from a 1u R4 End to go with PgUp/PgDn.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 19 November 2017, 14:18:59
doesn't matter what i think of it, it'll hit MOQ anyway

personally not a huge fan of the colorway, but it's certainly popular
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Bits on Sun, 19 November 2017, 14:25:07
100% in for me. I love me some camping

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Rafa_n on Sun, 19 November 2017, 14:28:16
Interested, depends on vendor ;D

 :-X
Any suggetion?

mykeyboard.eu for eu proxy
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: jessica on Sun, 19 November 2017, 14:29:48
I don't buy keysets, basically ever. I'd buy this one, though
Title: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sun, 19 November 2017, 15:29:21
Hell yeah, let’s see this happen.

Any chance of a non-novelty set of maroon arrows (I.e. regular arrows without compass graphics)? I’m a huge fan of the colours just not big on novelties most of the time.


Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Buggot on Sun, 19 November 2017, 15:32:32
It looks fantastic!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: iHateKnives on Sun, 19 November 2017, 15:48:19
The novelties are included in the base set? Damn, this is so enticing. I actually hike and camp. This speaks to me more than the GMK's I'm looking to buy atm. Hopefully announcements happen soon :D

Also, any chance more novelties would be made? So many bits from actual camping would look cute on keycaps. Like a boot, trekking poles, ala-nalgene bottle, headlamp, etc
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Laughmaster on Sun, 19 November 2017, 16:04:56
I'm definitely getting this. Only thing I would change, I don't like the front legends on the ' ` 2 3 4 keys. Any chance we can get alts without them?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Kafka on Sun, 19 November 2017, 16:06:48
Wish it was all text mods... but I love the choice of legends like 'return' and 'print' and 'super', as well as the 'backspace' hhkb bs. Much more appealing than the norm for GMK sets imo   ;D
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: avid on Sun, 19 November 2017, 16:15:59
For ISO keys, both of them have the same sign. Personally i like the crocodile gaps on r4, but r3 can also be changed.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Krelbit on Sun, 19 November 2017, 16:18:11
do it
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Jedi on Sun, 19 November 2017, 16:57:47
Aw yisss.  Great port over for GMK.  Glad to see this set return.  Heads up all!  Custom colors announced, we need a hype train on all fronts for this with a SOLID vendor for support.  250 is the minimum and though we can all say insta buy, we need some strong media blasts for this.  Is Chain as hyped up about this as the NA market?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Golgo13 on Sun, 19 November 2017, 17:16:56
In for sure, but planck support in the base set like laser currently has would be even nicer. An r3 and r2 1u novelty would be nice too.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: regionfree on Sun, 19 November 2017, 18:37:57
+1 here
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: avid on Sun, 19 November 2017, 18:41:51
Aw yisss.  Great port over for GMK.  Glad to see this set return.  Heads up all!  Custom colors announced, we need a hype train on all fronts for this with a SOLID vendor for support.  250 is the minimum and though we can all say insta buy, we need some strong media blasts for this.  Is Chain as hyped up about this as the NA market?

(https://i.imgur.com/tweObnL.png)

Id say the interest is there! This was actually the biggest surprise in a long time and i never expected a GMK version of it.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 19 November 2017, 18:57:58
In for sure, but planck support in the base set like laser currently has would be even nicer. An r3 and r2 1u novelty would be nice too.

I don't care about planck support. But I'd love if it added R2/R3 novelties for 65% layouts :P. Either way I will buy it though.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: mudcakehoney on Sun, 19 November 2017, 19:03:01
In for sure, but planck support in the base set like laser currently has would be even nicer. An r3 and r2 1u novelty would be nice too.

I don't care about planck support. But I'd love if it added R2/R3 novelties for 65% layouts :P. Either way I will buy it though.
This! They’re some of the best novelties around and 65% is one of the best form factors.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: TeHao on Sun, 19 November 2017, 19:28:47
Nice! I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: fishpod on Sun, 19 November 2017, 20:01:14
NAISU!!!!!

really enjoying the cream and green color combo :thumb: definitely in!

wish there could be more maroon novelties tho
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: MeloDet on Sun, 19 November 2017, 20:19:05
Any thoughts on who the US vendor would be?

*Edit: Nevermind, already asked
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Hazzula on Sun, 19 November 2017, 20:52:14
Any chance for an ergo/ortho kit?

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We can provide ergo/ortho kit, but the problem is MOQ since we are using custom colors.
GMK laser reached moq i think. :D so its not impossible for this to reach moq too haha.

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 19 November 2017, 20:56:13
Any chance for an ergo/ortho kit?

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We can provide ergo/ortho kit, but the problem is MOQ since we are using custom colors.
GMK laser reached moq i think. :D so its not impossible for this to reach moq too haha.

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GMK laser is probably the most hyped set of all time

this is not
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 19 November 2017, 21:21:14
oh nice, very interested.....only 1 question: When? :p
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Hazzula on Sun, 19 November 2017, 22:37:06
Any chance for an ergo/ortho kit?

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We can provide ergo/ortho kit, but the problem is MOQ since we are using custom colors.
GMK laser reached moq i think. :D so its not impossible for this to reach moq too haha.

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GMK laser is probably the most hyped set of all time

this is not
All righty then. I retract my request. :)

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 20 November 2017, 02:19:36
I'm definitely getting this. Only thing I would change, I don't like the front legends on the ' ` 2 3 4 keys. Any chance we can get alts without them?

Have some ISO love, dude :-X
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 20 November 2017, 02:27:30
Hi all,

Thanks for all your comments/suggestions, I'll surely look into some great suggestions such as a R4 1u End.
About ergo/planck and more novelty keys, the thing is..we are doing this as a vendor GB rather than MD.
Hence we need to take good consideration of pricing and compatibility and of course MOQ.
Once GMK sends me the pricing of this initial design, I'll see what we can do about all your requests.  ;D
Currently, my goal is to keep Camping ~$150 GB price. I received some nice suggestions about lowering the price that really worth considering, such as remove one of those 2 arrow novelties.
Let me know what you think about this please.
 
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 20 November 2017, 04:02:37
I'll work on updated renders with the front printing in a couple days, forgot about those in the keyboard renders, sorry!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: ChiliManiac on Mon, 20 November 2017, 04:43:55
I'm so in, esp if it's in December. This looks phenomenal.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Johnee on Mon, 20 November 2017, 05:17:53
I’m in. A good looking green set like this is an insta buy for me, assuming I can afford it when the GB happens. I got into this rabbit hole too late for the SA GB, but GMK is probably even better.

I do have one question tho, and I realize it might be completely unrealistic, but here goes anyway. I would love two R4 1.5U keys that would go on a HHKB layout board with a Mac. The 1.5 Control and Alt keys are a bit out of place there. Command / Super / Novelties in 1.5U R4 would be great. Looking forward to this set either way!
Title: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 05:23:14
The idea of removing one of the novelty arrows to lower cost would be fine with me. I’d prefer a set of maroon arrows that are just regular GMK icons.


Edit: how about removing the green novelty arrows? I would think the maroon accent ones would be more popular, so I’d keep the novelty matrons arrows and just have a set of regular arrows in both colours. Just a suggestion :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Bizpit on Mon, 20 November 2017, 05:30:35
No transparent red 1u fire novelty? :(
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Strontaap on Mon, 20 November 2017, 06:15:04
Oh, Kingnestea, you sure know how to empty my wallet. I'm in for this!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: ctrl on Mon, 20 November 2017, 06:32:05
Now, I already own SA Camping, but the chance to own it with support for split spacebar and HHKB/X60-style support? I'm so in on this.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: lovetree on Mon, 20 November 2017, 08:51:33
Definitely in!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Golgo13 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 09:51:39
Hi all,

Thanks for all your comments/suggestions, I'll surely look into some great suggestions such as a R4 1u End.
About ergo/planck and more novelty keys, the thing is..we are doing this as a vendor GB rather than MD.
Hence we need to take good consideration of pricing and compatibility and of course MOQ.
Once GMK sends me the pricing of this initial design, I'll see what we can do about all your requests.  ;D
Currently, my goal is to keep Camping ~$150 GB price. I received some nice suggestions about lowering the price that really worth considering, such as remove one of those 2 arrow novelties.
Let me know what you think about this please.
Not having ortho support isn't that big of a deal but dropping novelties would suck. The novelties make this kit IMHO. Even If the price was over 150 I feel it would be worth it to keep as many novelties as possible.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Auchindoun on Mon, 20 November 2017, 13:15:25
hype! i've wanted SA camping for a loooong time. this is even better.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 20 November 2017, 17:08:48
Lets see where the pricing is, but I would very much like the keep the marron arrow novelties. It really accentuates the entire kit. Thanks! Can't wait!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: avid on Mon, 20 November 2017, 17:14:22
Lets see where the pricing is, but I would very much like the keep the marron arrow novelties. It really accentuates the entire kit. Thanks! Can't wait!

Agree, the arrow keys are so beautiful.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: crcstig on Mon, 20 November 2017, 17:25:05
Love this set. My input would be to keep the maroon novelty arrows. As a 65% lover, I too would like R2/R3 novelties if possible. Either way, looks great and definitely a buy from me. (Assuming money is a thing by then :))

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Wolf123rt on Mon, 20 November 2017, 17:26:26
You should keep the brown arrow keys since the arrow keys in the base kit are already green.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 17:38:04
You should keep the brown arrow keys since the arrow keys in the base kit are already green.

Yeah definitely, my suggestion was to possibly have both those green arrows and also brown arrow keys in the base kit that aren’t novelty.


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 20 November 2017, 19:00:02
Would love to see the scarlet non-novelty Enter and Esc keys!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: aikilink on Mon, 20 November 2017, 23:06:47
I would very likely be in for this! If you have an Ortho kit, it would bump that up further. Dvorak/Colemak would make it a must buy, though I know it's hard to kit MOQ on that. Good luck!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: _rubik on Mon, 20 November 2017, 23:11:05
My poor poor wallet. Yeah I'm pretty much 100% in.

I can't decide if I prefer SA or GMK for this set thought. I much prefer the gmk profile, but this colorway goes SO WELL with the big, rounded SA font.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: iHateKnives on Tue, 21 November 2017, 07:39:05
Hi all,

Thanks for all your comments/suggestions, I'll surely look into some great suggestions such as a R4 1u End.
About ergo/planck and more novelty keys, the thing is..we are doing this as a vendor GB rather than MD.
Hence we need to take good consideration of pricing and compatibility and of course MOQ.
Once GMK sends me the pricing of this initial design, I'll see what we can do about all your requests.  ;D
Currently, my goal is to keep Camping ~$150 GB price. I received some nice suggestions about lowering the price that really worth considering, such as remove one of those 2 arrow novelties.
Let me know what you think about this please.

While you're waiting on GMK, can we have other goodies too? Like Camping themed wires, pouches, and maybe even a case (but lol, any wooden case would look amazing anyways)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 21 November 2017, 08:51:52
Hi all,

Thanks for all your comments/suggestions, I'll surely look into some great suggestions such as a R4 1u End.
About ergo/planck and more novelty keys, the thing is..we are doing this as a vendor GB rather than MD.
Hence we need to take good consideration of pricing and compatibility and of course MOQ.
Once GMK sends me the pricing of this initial design, I'll see what we can do about all your requests.  ;D
Currently, my goal is to keep Camping ~$150 GB price. I received some nice suggestions about lowering the price that really worth considering, such as remove one of those 2 arrow novelties.
Let me know what you think about this please.

While you're waiting on GMK, can we have other goodies too? Like Camping themed wires, pouches, and maybe even a case (but lol, any wooden case would look amazing anyways)

check out this picture I shot on SA Camping https://imgur.com/2hue6p8 (https://imgur.com/2hue6p8)
Is this what you mean? ;D Camping looks good on space grey case too
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: iHateKnives on Tue, 21 November 2017, 09:46:36
Hi all,

Thanks for all your comments/suggestions, I'll surely look into some great suggestions such as a R4 1u End.
About ergo/planck and more novelty keys, the thing is..we are doing this as a vendor GB rather than MD.
Hence we need to take good consideration of pricing and compatibility and of course MOQ.
Once GMK sends me the pricing of this initial design, I'll see what we can do about all your requests.  ;D
Currently, my goal is to keep Camping ~$150 GB price. I received some nice suggestions about lowering the price that really worth considering, such as remove one of those 2 arrow novelties.
Let me know what you think about this please.

While you're waiting on GMK, can we have other goodies too? Like Camping themed wires, pouches, and maybe even a case (but lol, any wooden case would look amazing anyways)

check out this picture I shot on SA Camping https://imgur.com/2hue6p8 (https://imgur.com/2hue6p8)
Is this what you mean? ;D Camping looks good on space grey case too

That's yours? Wow, I have that saved on my keyboard porn folder lol. Even space grey matches well. I just thought of pouches and wires cos of the GMK 9009 R2 drop. Coincidentally, the add-ons from that buy matches well here too ;)

https://dixiemech.com/shop/gmk9009sleeve
https://dixiemech.com/shop/gmk9009sleeve

maybe a bit more maroon and some wooden bits to make it outdoor-sy. I prolly sound demanding at this point, hehe. Just throwing some ideas! I am so in on this :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: MeloDet on Tue, 21 November 2017, 10:07:42
Oddly enough I think I actually prefer this set in GMK, even though its usually the other way around. Regardless, I'll definitely be in on this one.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:27:53
Loooove this. Any timeline for a GB yet?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:33:04
Loooove this. Any timeline for a GB yet?

I received today the initial pricing from GMK, I guess I need to reduce the base kit a little bit.
Early information about GB will be announced together with the next revision of kit design
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Johnee on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:47:54
I received today the initial pricing from GMK, I guess I need to reduce the base kit a little bit.
Early information about GB will be announced together with the next revision of kit design

Please don't reduce the HHKB coverage.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:53:23
Loooove this. Any timeline for a GB yet?

I received today the initial pricing from GMK, I guess I need to reduce the base kit a little bit.
Early information about GB will be announced together with the next revision of kit design

Yeah seems like most GMK kits are expensive these days with the Euro being strong compared to 2-3 years ago. At least it's down from early this year.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: avid on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:53:36
My suggestion would to remove all 8 novelty arrow keys. Yes, they are really really nice, but i would much rather have the different novelties, and the arrows with 4 (?) new molds should detract quite a decent bit from the price i suppose.

Another suggestion would be to replace those 8, with just regular maroon arrows as well.

Is both 6u (either one or both) space-bars needed? Especially since you can get those in the space-bar addon kit. Not sure how many actually use those.

So:
-remove 8 novelty arrow
-possible add maroon regular arrow cluster
-remove 6u spacebar(s) since 6u is available in spacebar-kit.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: MeloDet on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:58:35
My suggestion would to remove all 8 novelty arrow keys. Yes, they are really really nice, but i would much rather have the different novelties, and the arrows with 4 (?) new molds should detract quite a decent bit from the price i suppose.

Another suggestion would be to replace those 8, with just regular maroon arrows as well.

Is both 6u (either one or both) space-bars needed? Especially since you can get those in the space-bar addon kit. Not sure how many actually use those.

So:
-remove 8 novelty arrow
-possible add maroon regular arrow cluster
-remove 6u spacebar(s) since 6u is available in spacebar-kit.

Agree with all the above. If people really want the arrow novelties I would settle on one colour at most. And yeah I'd pick one 6u spacebar at most as well, not sure which is more commonly used though.
Title: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: dallman5 on Tue, 21 November 2017, 12:00:31
Obviously I haven’t seen the pricing and I’m not sure if this has been said before, but why not just split the base kit into base + novelties and add some extra maroon accents to the base kit, like enter, escape, or arrows? I feel like that’s more in line with the status quo for GMK sets coming out lately anyway. Love the novelties though, please don’t change them, except maybe only doing one arrow color.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: avid on Tue, 21 November 2017, 12:03:57
Obviously I haven’t seen the pricing and I’m not sure if this has been said before, but why not just split the base kit into base + novelties and add some extra maroon accents to the base kit, like enter, escape, or arrows? I feel like that’s more in line with the status quo for GMK sets coming out lately anyway. Love the novelties though, please don’t change them, except maybe only doing one arrow color!

Problem with splitting novelties is they might not fire. MOQ is high, and the camping novelties is such an integral part of the keyset.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: dallman5 on Tue, 21 November 2017, 12:05:21
Obviously I haven’t seen the pricing and I’m not sure if this has been said before, but why not just split the base kit into base + novelties and add some extra maroon accents to the base kit, like enter, escape, or arrows? I feel like that’s more in line with the status quo for GMK sets coming out lately anyway. Love the novelties though, please don’t change them, except maybe only doing one arrow color!

Problem with splitting novelties is they might not fire. MOQ is high, and the camping novelties is such an integral part of the keyset.

Good point, especially since there’s so many of them the kit could be pricey.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 21 November 2017, 12:23:37
My suggestion would to remove all 8 novelty arrow keys. Yes, they are really really nice, but i would much rather have the different novelties, and the arrows with 4 (?) new molds should detract quite a decent bit from the price i suppose.

Another suggestion would be to replace those 8, with just regular maroon arrows as well.

Is both 6u (either one or both) space-bars needed? Especially since you can get those in the space-bar addon kit. Not sure how many actually use those.

So:
-remove 8 novelty arrow
-possible add maroon regular arrow cluster
-remove 6u spacebar(s) since 6u is available in spacebar-kit.

I think we should keep at least one color of the arrows, this is something special from Camping, Camping would be incomplete without those
spliting the novelty is not an option imo. Spliting kits won't help much for the total cost, may even increase it due to MOQ, this is unfair for those who will buy both base and novelty kit.

For the record, according to the pricing I got today, we are looking at $170-180 GB price depends on freight. This is for the kit design in my OP without that 6u spacebar.
I think I'm gonna remove the green arrow novelties and put some spacebars in the spacebar kit, and see if we can get it down to $150-160.
HHKB will stay, no worries.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: avid on Tue, 21 November 2017, 12:33:11
Sounds like a good plan!  :thumb:

Excited to see this getting closer to GB stage.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: stevenpa on Tue, 21 November 2017, 13:03:39
Definitely in for a set. I don't mind paying premium to have all the keys / novelties.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: donutcat on Tue, 21 November 2017, 15:06:56
Some thoughts based on my experience with GMK. Removing multiples of keys with custom novelties on them won't significantly lower the price of the set. As long as a custom novelty is used a single time, you're paying the extra for having it made. Any duplicates of that new design will be priced as a normal key since you've already paid the extra for the first instance of the design. Because of this, doing something like removing one of the sets of novelty arrow keys won't significantly reduce the price, most likely <$1 apiece, but removing some of the unique 1u novelties would result in significant reduction.  Removing one of the novelty enters may result in a small reduction due to being both a novelty and a larger cap. What does reduce price significantly is extra spacebars and other "large" keys. Moving the 6u spacebars to the other kit would most likely give a few $ apiece price difference. Additionally, removing some of the redundant capslock keys would reduce price by a few bucks as well. Other than that, I don't see a whole lot that is extra that can easily be removed without sacrificing kit integrity. I do think the extra 1u \| should be removed as it doesn't offer anything over the \| with ~# included. I'm also not a fan of the r3 control keys since they don't improve physical compatibility, but that's a pretty opinionated reduction that probably shouldn't be taken lightly.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: iHateKnives on Tue, 21 November 2017, 15:35:13
I hope I don't get flogged for this but I think cream and maroon spacebars make up for a better kit than cream and green bars  :-X Green bars with the green modifiers just look too... green
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: MeloDet on Tue, 21 November 2017, 15:48:00
There are definitely a couple of novelties that I could live without (particularly the fish), but I imagine we'd need to do a poll or something and that's assuming OP is even ok with it.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: TheMissingPiece on Tue, 21 November 2017, 15:53:04
Would it be possible to add a 2u shift for DZ60/XD60/Manila compatibility? GMK appears to have the molds for it now so hopefully it's not too out of the question.

Other than that, it looks great! Looking forward to the buy!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: _rubik on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:13:04
I hope I don't get flogged for this but I think cream and maroon spacebars make up for a better kit than cream and green bars  :-X Green bars with the green modifiers just look too... green

There are definitely a couple of novelties that I could live without (particularly the fish), but I imagine we'd need to do a poll or something and that's assuming OP is even ok with it.

I think that the set has two things that need to be addressed... It's very green. I think that maroon works as a wonderful accent, but we're not getting enough of it. Secondly, I think that we could certainly leave out a few 'novelites'. Specifically, I don't see the need for two sets of those arrow keys, and, seeing as the set is already green enough, the maroon ones are the better alternative.

I think this set needs a bit more thought in that regard, and a little less C-c C-v. That being said, I'm a big fan of where it's heading.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:30:07
I agree with that opinion of the green spacebars, spacebar kit definitely needs to be updated.

Besides this, removing the R3 ctrl sounds doable to me. A quick question to HHKB users tho, do you really need a R3 ctrl?

tbh, I don't think I wanna sacrifice any individual novelty key, neither does Monkey six.

I guess we need to start a poll...if I figure out how to start one.. ;D


Sorry guys if I don't quote all of your useful suggetions in my reply..
It's just multi-quote is a headache here...especially to someone who doesn't post a lot.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:37:54
Would it be possible to add a 2u shift for DZ60/XD60/Manila compatibility? GMK appears to have the molds for it now so hopefully it's not too out of the question.

Other than that, it looks great! Looking forward to the buy!

This sounds quite doable to me, since I own 2 XD60 boards and it's quite popular in China as well. Will add that in the next revision.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: MeloDet on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:43:05
For the poll I'd recommend compiling a list of the individual keys we might cut (as in not just R3 Control, but R3 Control and R3 Stepped Control etc.), that way we can all vote for what is most important to us etc. I'd also toss in some of the caps locks in there too as I don't know if we need two different windowed caps locks.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Owl- on Tue, 21 November 2017, 17:06:24
Would it be possible to add a 2u shift for DZ60/XD60/Manila compatibility? GMK appears to have the molds for it now so hopefully it's not too out of the question.

Other than that, it looks great! Looking forward to the buy!

This sounds quite doable to me, since I own 2 XD60 boards and it's quite popular in China as well. Will add that in the next revision.

Removal suggestions:
LED window caps lock and LED stepped caps lock
R3 stepped control - keep the standard R3 control
four long green space bars - bring the white space bars into the spacebars kit
green arrow novelty keys - keep the maroon

Any possibility for an R4 1u Hack key? The mould for it already exists, so there shouldn't be any significant costs to have it produced.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: typischt on Tue, 21 November 2017, 17:17:32
There are definitely a couple of novelties that I could live without (particularly the fish), but I imagine we'd need to do a poll or something and that's assuming OP is even ok with it.

HOW MUCH IS THE FISH?!

Please don‘t take the fish! Love this one! If one has to go, you can take the stars. But I‘d also prefer to keep as mich of them as possible.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: avid on Tue, 21 November 2017, 17:20:59
There are definitely a couple of novelties that I could live without (particularly the fish), but I imagine we'd need to do a poll or something and that's assuming OP is even ok with it.

HOW MUCH IS THE FISH?!

Please don‘t take the fish! Love this one! If one has to go, you can take the stars. But I‘d also prefer to keep as mich of them as possible.

Fish is fantastic. Love it.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 21 November 2017, 17:43:15
Would it be possible to add a 2u shift for DZ60/XD60/Manila compatibility? GMK appears to have the molds for it now so hopefully it's not too out of the question.

Other than that, it looks great! Looking forward to the buy!

This sounds quite doable to me, since I own 2 XD60 boards and it's quite popular in China as well. Will add that in the next revision.

Removal suggestions:
LED window caps lock and LED stepped caps lock
R3 stepped control - keep the standard R3 control
four long green space bars - bring the white space bars into the spacebars kit
green arrow novelty keys - keep the maroon

Any possibility for an R4 1u Hack key? The mould for it already exists, so there shouldn't be any significant costs to have it produced.

The windowed keys are there because a member of the camp team likes them, and will not be removed. I was talking to KNT about it, since I also like windowed keys.

I suspect the 6u spacebars will be added to the spacebar kit, and one of the arrow sets will be removed.

If my math is right, that should be enough to bring it to $150.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: DJ Shoko on Tue, 21 November 2017, 17:45:00
Definitely keep as many novelties as possible and keeping as much HHKB support as possible. Remove the green arrow novelties though imo and keep the maroon one would probably work imo. I'd also look into removing one of the R1 1u `~ and/or R2 1.5u \| keys and MAYBE remove the windowed caps lock as well, but I wouldn't know how popular those are. Then maybe hold a poll on whether HHKB users would use a stepped R3 control key or not and if there's not enough users willing to use it then remove it, if so then keep it. These are just my 2C's
I'm also assuming asking for a R3 1.75u FN key is gonna be unrealistic at this point.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Perfex on Tue, 21 November 2017, 17:46:21
Another must have key set.
Title: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Kafka on Tue, 21 November 2017, 18:09:38
I use hhkb layout daily (no blockers) and would love the R3 stepped control, but only if there was a R4 1.5u control alternative, like a super or something. Since having 3 controls on a board ruins the look. I usually just stick with stepped caps lock because most sets don't have stepped control or a different R4 1.5u control key.

R4 1.5u Fn key would make this my favorite set ever...
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: xondat on Tue, 21 November 2017, 18:22:27
Personally don't care for novelties, but would keep 3-4 as it adds to the spirit of the set.
Title: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 21 November 2017, 19:03:49
Edit: read the latest comments and my point has been already addressed

So excited for this set, I think I’ll build an iso layout just so I can use the maroon iso enter.


It will be good to see a poll and gauge interest numbers

Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: _rubik on Tue, 21 November 2017, 21:12:45
I agree with that opinion of the green spacebars, spacebar kit definitely needs to be updated.

Besides this, removing the R3 ctrl sounds doable to me. A quick question to HHKB users tho, do you really need a R3 ctrl?

tbh, I don't think I wanna sacrifice any individual novelty key, neither does Monkey six.

I guess we need to start a poll...if I figure out how to start one.. ;D


Sorry guys if I don't quote all of your useful suggetions in my reply..
It's just multi-quote is a headache here...especially to someone who doesn't post a lot.

Do.... NOT.... remove R3 control. It's not HHKB specific either. Let the record stand, I'm totally out of this GB is R3 ctrl goes.  >:D

Edit: IDC about stepped R3 control. That can go for all I care. But standard R3 ctrl is a must.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 21 November 2017, 21:58:49
I agree with that opinion of the green spacebars, spacebar kit definitely needs to be updated.

Besides this, removing the R3 ctrl sounds doable to me. A quick question to HHKB users tho, do you really need a R3 ctrl?

tbh, I don't think I wanna sacrifice any individual novelty key, neither does Monkey six.

I guess we need to start a poll...if I figure out how to start one.. ;D


Sorry guys if I don't quote all of your useful suggetions in my reply..
It's just multi-quote is a headache here...especially to someone who doesn't post a lot.

Do.... NOT.... remove R3 control. It's not HHKB specific either. Let the record stand, I'm totally out of this GB is R3 ctrl goes.  >:D

Edit: IDC about stepped R3 control. That can go for all I care. But standard R3 ctrl is a must.

r3 control is probably staying

i think you guys are throwing your own personal feelings into this a bit too much
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: bminhz on Tue, 21 November 2017, 22:20:42
Any chance we can get the red space bars instead of green ones? Wouldn't the idea of the additional space bar kits is to have alternatives color different than the mods? Which in this case is green?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 21 November 2017, 23:36:33
Any chance we can get the red space bars instead of green ones? Wouldn't the idea of the additional space bar kits is to have alternatives color different than the mods? Which in this case is green?

This is what I'm thinking of
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: ctrl on Wed, 22 November 2017, 01:32:45
Suggestions:

Keep the LED windowed keys.
Keep the maroon novelty arrows.

Drop the stepped Control key.
Drop the green novelty arrows.

Add 2 x R4 1.5u Meta keys or novelty keys? This would add HHKB-style support with the outer bottom row keys being 1u Alt keys. It's something I found lacking in the original keyset.

Just my two cents.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Johnee on Wed, 22 November 2017, 01:36:57
Suggestions:

Keep the LED windowed keys.
Keep the maroon novelty arrows.

Drop the stepped Control key.
Drop the green novelty arrows.

Add 2 x R4 1.5u Meta keys or novelty keys? This would add HHKB-style support with the outer bottom row keys being 1u Alt keys. It's something I found lacking in the original keyset.

Just my two cents.

+1 on this. With the addition of moving the 6U spacebars to the spacebars kits.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: tectonicplate on Wed, 22 November 2017, 08:11:16
…Removing multiples of keys with custom novelties on them won't significantly lower the price of the set.

Both color ways of novelty arrows would be preferred… they are a part of this set that stand out. One of my biggest issues with GMK is the general lack of options in design. I'm more or less done buying GMK unless these kinds of options are available. Many of the default GMK legends are not well designed, a lot of sloppy choices were made way back—the draw and appeal to me is the nostalgia—but I'd like to see more variety and have options long-term. A few bucks more isn't an issue if that's the case. We're already spending a good chunk of change here… I need reasons to choose this over so many other things out there.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: boxfrommoon on Wed, 22 November 2017, 08:54:21
I really like this one! Been looking for the SA set for a while but it looks like this color scheme and novelties look great on GMK also!

My only concern is that the muted green ends up being more saturated than in those nice renders. This has happened before e.g. gmk plum (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment%2FlocIutTNQCiqz5TinmGQ_gmkplum.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1300&h=787&dpr=2&q=40) and gmk nautilus (https://i.imgur.com/Ej00yxw.jpg). I would be all over this set if it would be 100% certain that end product would look exactly like those renders.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: iHateKnives on Wed, 22 November 2017, 11:24:14
I really like this one! Been looking for the SA set for a while but it looks like this color scheme and novelties look great on GMK also!

My only concern is that the muted green ends up being more saturated than in those nice renders. This has happened before e.g. gmk plum (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment%2FlocIutTNQCiqz5TinmGQ_gmkplum.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1300&h=787&dpr=2&q=40) and gmk nautilus (https://i.imgur.com/Ej00yxw.jpg). I would be all over this set if it would be 100% certain that end product would look exactly like those renders.

Have you tried looking at these through an IPS display* :O. I thought Plum came out perfectly. There's only a handful of photos that perfectly capture the colors. It's probably the most difficult set to photograph (tbf almost all keysets that have non-muted colors are hard to photograph, haha).

Nautilus concerns me though cos the yellow from the renders is brighter than the yellow in Zambumon's pictures. But eh, it could just be the filters he added to his instagram photos.

*It won't be 100% faithful to whatever was rendered but it'll be close enough.
**I didn't buy either of the GMK sets you mentioned and I am very, very sad

Edit: The SA Camping photos here have greens that are more saturated than the renders. I get what you mean :). It suddenly looks a bit tacky if the greens aren't muted
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: avid on Wed, 22 November 2017, 11:56:45
I really like this one! Been looking for the SA set for a while but it looks like this color scheme and novelties look great on GMK also!

My only concern is that the muted green ends up being more saturated than in those nice renders. This has happened before e.g. gmk plum (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment%2FlocIutTNQCiqz5TinmGQ_gmkplum.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1300&h=787&dpr=2&q=40) and gmk nautilus (https://i.imgur.com/Ej00yxw.jpg). I would be all over this set if it would be 100% certain that end product would look exactly like those renders.

Have you tried looking at these through an IPS display* :O. I thought Plum came out perfectly. There's only a handful of photos that perfectly capture the colors. It's probably the most difficult set to photograph (tbf almost all keysets that have non-muted colors are hard to photograph, haha).

Nautilus concerns me though cos the yellow from the renders is brighter than the yellow in Zambumon's pictures. But eh, it could just be the filters he added to his instagram photos.

*It won't be 100% faithful to whatever was rendered but it'll be close enough.
**I didn't buy either of the GMK sets you mentioned and I am very, very sad

Edit: The SA Camping photos here have greens that are more saturated than the renders. I get what you mean :). It suddenly looks a bit tacky if the greens aren't muted

Just pick them up on mechmarket. Plum is cheap and nautilus should be plenty available in a few weeks.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: wezm on Wed, 22 November 2017, 19:41:02
Interested, depends on vendor ;D

 :-X
Any suggetion?

Anyone but Massdrop
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 22 November 2017, 20:14:39
I really like this one! Been looking for the SA set for a while but it looks like this color scheme and novelties look great on GMK also!

My only concern is that the muted green ends up being more saturated than in those nice renders. This has happened before e.g. gmk plum (https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment%2FlocIutTNQCiqz5TinmGQ_gmkplum.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1300&h=787&dpr=2&q=40) and gmk nautilus (https://i.imgur.com/Ej00yxw.jpg). I would be all over this set if it would be 100% certain that end product would look exactly like those renders.

They literally always end up more saturated. It's a symptom of computer monitors. GMK renders are worse than others, but you shouldn't count on them being exact to the renders.

At least in my experience.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 23 November 2017, 00:45:08
Suggestions:

Keep the LED windowed keys.
Keep the maroon novelty arrows.

Drop the stepped Control key.
Drop the green novelty arrows.

Add 2 x R4 1.5u Meta keys or novelty keys? This would add HHKB-style support with the outer bottom row keys being 1u Alt keys. It's something I found lacking in the original keyset.

Just my two cents.

I would really like both colors of arrows even if I have to buy the other arrows as a kit lol. But I do think green makes more sense for general use, it fits more readily with 65/75%. I personally do like the maroon though.

The real cost of the arrows is from the molds anyway, it seems like a waste to spend the money for the molds and then only use them once.

I also wouldn't mind 1.5 novelties, could care less about meta keys though.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Kafka on Thu, 23 November 2017, 11:17:11
Add a Watster! Mold is already paid for and Krelbit said anyone can use it :p
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: avid on Thu, 23 November 2017, 11:19:22
Add a Watster! Mold is already paid for and Krelbit said anyone can use it :p

please dont do this. I think people would much rather have any of the current novelties but in a different color.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: bminhz on Thu, 23 November 2017, 11:57:36
Add a Watster! Mold is already paid for and Krelbit said anyone can use it :p

please don't....watster doesn't fit in with camping theme at all! More novelties or more colors would be nice
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: ctrl on Fri, 24 November 2017, 04:48:12
Add a Watster! Mold is already paid for and Krelbit said anyone can use it :p

Just no.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: xondat on Fri, 24 November 2017, 05:14:43
Add a Watster! Mold is already paid for and Krelbit said anyone can use it :p

You've had better ideas :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: CandyKeys on Fri, 24 November 2017, 07:18:12
This is exciting stuff! Very hyped to see it at Frankfurt and talk to the host.

This will be great.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: Kafka on Fri, 24 November 2017, 11:47:23
Add a Watster! Mold is already paid for and Krelbit said anyone can use it :p

You've had better ideas :rolleyes:

:wat:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 24 November 2017, 12:18:32
Add a Watster! Mold is already paid for and Krelbit said anyone can use it :p

please dont do this. I think people would much rather have any of the current novelties but in a different color.

I’d rather have a watster over a duplicate in a different color. But I’d rather have R2/3 novelties over a watster. But that’s just me.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping
Post by: iHateKnives on Fri, 24 November 2017, 12:24:53
I think we should also have some sort of discussion as to pricing. I'm willing to pay 160usd just for the base set since this is one of the greats, imo
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 24 November 2017, 12:29:57

Hi guys,

I hope you have a great thanksgiving and got some awesome stuff with the black friday sales.

I've made a Google form to collect votes for the keys that I'm considering to remove so that we can bring down the pricing of GMK Camping a little bit.

Please vote, I will be really appreciated!

https://goo.gl/forms/MyXc3IQdSjFgzErH3 (https://goo.gl/forms/MyXc3IQdSjFgzErH3)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: BlackInk on Fri, 24 November 2017, 12:35:20
i don't give a sh*t, i'll pay $180 to have them all  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: bthezebra on Fri, 24 November 2017, 12:37:37
Submitted my opinion :)

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 24 November 2017, 13:16:35
My take:

- remove R4 pipe (ISO)
- remove either green or maroon novelty arrows (poll people for this)
- change cardinal direction (text) or arrow icon only (it's too cluttered to have both, from my experience with SA Camping)
- keep both regular and stepped R3 Control
- move 6u spacebars to spacebar kit
- reduce number of R1 1u novelties
- add R4 1u End key
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Fri, 24 November 2017, 17:08:07
Filled the form. The “hell yeah, shut up and take my money” is exactly how I feel


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: donutcat on Fri, 24 November 2017, 18:34:36
My personal opinions on what should be done to the kit:
 - Drop homing scoops and keep the bars
 - ditch the alpha colored F5-F8
 - drop R3 control keys since they don't functionally contribute to the kit, only aesthetically
 - change the R3 iso \| key to have the ~# as main legends since that seems to be what most iso layouts have there
 - keep the R4 \| key since that's crucial for physical iso support, otherwise iso users are missing a key there
 - move 6u spacebars to the spacebar kit
 - maybe add a R4 End, but I don't see that as crucial since there's plenty of R4 1u keys to go there
 - consider slimming down the unique novelty designs, not the campfire though since I dig that
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: avid on Fri, 24 November 2017, 19:12:45
To keep ISO working, the 4 keys are a necessity, cant remove any of the four keys.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: Kafka on Fri, 24 November 2017, 19:53:40
I really hope you don't consider removing the scoops for homing, almost every recent set has both..
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: j2c8w6f8 on Sat, 25 November 2017, 01:13:43
Monkey six god!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: zimo on Sat, 25 November 2017, 01:14:41
Monkey six god!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: iHateKnives on Sat, 25 November 2017, 02:43:45
Around how much would the spacebar kit cost? :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: kingnestea on Sat, 25 November 2017, 03:05:04
Around how much would the spacebar kit cost? :)

I don't know that yet, because the spacebar kit is not sent to GMK for quote yet.
I'm thinking of changing the green spacebars to maroon, and put 6u there
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: iHateKnives on Sat, 25 November 2017, 04:43:43
Around how much would the spacebar kit cost? :)

I don't know that yet, because the spacebar kit is not sent to GMK for quote yet.
I'm thinking of changing the green spacebars to maroon, and put 6u there

Looking forward to those changes. Thank You!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: heliar_mk on Sat, 25 November 2017, 06:13:33
Does the main kit suit for planck?
If not, what is the R4C 2U space which in spaces kit for?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: lithopedion on Sat, 25 November 2017, 10:14:42
Pleeeeeeeeease keep the green novelty arrows!
The maroon arrows really doesn't look good on 65/75% keyboards.
Or no novelty arrows at all, so that it can be cheaper.
But as you've said, these novelty arrows are part of what make Camping “Camping”.
As much as you don't want to do it, I still think a separate novelty set would be the best option.
And if possible, please consider changing at least 2 novelty keys from R1 to R2 and R3.
Thanks for making GMK Camping happen!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (24/11/2017 Updated google form for poll)
Post by: bminhz on Sat, 25 November 2017, 11:59:08
Around how much would the spacebar kit cost? :)

I don't know that yet, because the spacebar kit is not sent to GMK for quote yet.
I'm thinking of changing the green spacebars to maroon, and put 6u there

Completely agree with this changes  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 26 November 2017, 16:25:03
26/11/2017 Rev. 2:

Please see OP for kit renders

Removed:
- R1 1u creamy white F5-F8
- R1 1u green ~`
- R2 1.5u green |\
- R3 1.75u stepped Control, regular caps lock(windowed)
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5
- R4 1u 00
- 6u Spacebars

Added:
- R4 1u End
- R1 1u Green watster novelty key
- R4 2u shift

Changed:
- R3 1u iso key changed to primary legend
- Green spacebars in the spacebar kit changed to maroon

Pls tell me what you think  :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: xondat on Sun, 26 November 2017, 16:26:11
Please keep scooped F/J.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Parva Ovis on Sun, 26 November 2017, 16:28:01
Please keep scooped F/J.
Same, scooped F/J/5 can't possibly be that costly to keep.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 26 November 2017, 16:35:48
I'm all over scooped F/J tbh, but surprisingly a lot ppl voted those to go.
I'll see where we are when I receive the quote for this revision. Might be adding those back in the next revision.
In the meanwhile, the poll stays active. 
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: avid on Sun, 26 November 2017, 16:48:37
Yes, please get the scooped keys. I have never seen a GMK set without both options and it will only be 1-2 dollar difference.

The novelties in this set is so nice and then a watser is added. Wouldn't it make more sense to add one of excisting novelties in maroon color instead?

With the added scooped i think its excellent.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: bthezebra on Sun, 26 November 2017, 16:56:53
Definitely keep dished F and J, I recently converted and like them much more than barred.

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: MeloDet on Sun, 26 November 2017, 16:58:17
Looks good! None of the dropped keys really bug me (aside from scooped FJ to an extent), but either way I can definitely live with all of the changes.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Kafka on Sun, 26 November 2017, 17:22:44
haha I called the Watster! but pls keep the scooped homing
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: bminhz on Sun, 26 November 2017, 17:24:36
Would love an existing novelty in different color than waster. It ruins the whole set imo...


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sun, 26 November 2017, 17:45:22
Yeah don’t understand the watster.. it’s not camping related and the legend is thin, whereas the rest of the novelties are bold rounded thick lines. It doesn’t match at all


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: fishpod on Sun, 26 November 2017, 18:07:45
Although I love watster, I dont think it fits camping.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 26 November 2017, 18:15:01
Wow can you please add back the 1.5u green |\ i really need that key
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: stevenpa on Sun, 26 November 2017, 19:19:12
- R1 1u creamy white F5-F8
- R1 1u green ~`
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5
- R4 1u 00

I would really really prefer to keep the dished keys, so much better than barred. For my OCD I'd like to keep the 1u green ~. Creamy white F5-F8 would be nice to have but not a dealbreaker for me. I also have a Ducky Pocket so the 1u 00 would be nice but a novelty would replace fine. I'm ok with rest of changes. I'm indifferent on the watster. I like the cap but don't see it fitting in line with rest of novelties. x

Would it be possible to add back at least a 6.25 green spacebar?

edit: I'm also ok with paying the $180 or whatever it would be to have all keys included.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 26 November 2017, 19:25:49
- R1 1u creamy white F5-F8
- R1 1u green ~`
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5
- R4 1u 00

I would really really prefer to keep the dished keys, so much better than barred. For my OCD I'd like to keep the 1u green ~. Creamy white F5-F8 would be nice to have but not a dealbreaker for me. I also have a Ducky Pocket so the 1u 00 would be nice but a novelty would replace fine. I'm ok with rest of changes. I'm indifferent on the watster. I like the cap but don't see it fitting in line with rest of novelties. x



Would it be possible to add back at least a 6.25 green spacebar?

edit: I'm also ok with paying the $180 or whatever it would be to have all keys included.

Same here, i would rather pay extra $20 to have all of these keys than begging to add 1 key back
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 26 November 2017, 19:40:30
- R1 1u creamy white F5-F8
- R1 1u green ~`
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5
- R4 1u 00

I would really really prefer to keep the dished keys, so much better than barred. For my OCD I'd like to keep the 1u green ~. Creamy white F5-F8 would be nice to have but not a dealbreaker for me. I also have a Ducky Pocket so the 1u 00 would be nice but a novelty would replace fine. I'm ok with rest of changes. I'm indifferent on the watster. I like the cap but don't see it fitting in line with rest of novelties. x



Would it be possible to add back at least a 6.25 green spacebar?

edit: I'm also ok with paying the $180 or whatever it would be to have all keys included.

Same here, i would rather pay extra $20 to have all of these keys than begging to add 1 key back

I too would like green spacebars, but I care about 7u more... But I would ideally like both spacebars sold in some sort of kit.

Regardless, I WILL NOT buy any set with no scoops and only bars. I can't deal with bars and won't buy anything where that is the only option. That is 100% a deal breaker for me. A lot of keys change how a board looks, but those change how a board feels. I literally never use bars as I hate them and how they feel. If that specific change is kept I'm out.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: DJ Shoko on Sun, 26 November 2017, 20:07:47
- R1 1u creamy white F5-F8
- R1 1u green ~`
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5
- R4 1u 00

I would really really prefer to keep the dished keys, so much better than barred. For my OCD I'd like to keep the 1u green ~. Creamy white F5-F8 would be nice to have but not a dealbreaker for me. I also have a Ducky Pocket so the 1u 00 would be nice but a novelty would replace fine. I'm ok with rest of changes. I'm indifferent on the watster. I like the cap but don't see it fitting in line with rest of novelties. x



Would it be possible to add back at least a 6.25 green spacebar?

edit: I'm also ok with paying the $180 or whatever it would be to have all keys included.

Same here, i would rather pay extra $20 to have all of these keys than begging to add 1 key back
I'd actually be okay to pay $20 or $30 extra for the dished F and J keys as well.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Kafka on Sun, 26 November 2017, 21:14:55
Just sell the whole kit for $180 or whatever, people will buy it
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: lovetree on Sun, 26 November 2017, 22:00:08
Removing deep dished F,J and adding watster was not a good choice, man. :(
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: DJ Shoko on Sun, 26 November 2017, 22:52:16
Removing deep dished F,J and adding watster was not a good choice, man. :(
Watster really doesn't fit in there, he looks really out of place. I'd personally suggest considering holding another poll on whether we should or shouldn't keep watster and a poll on which of the removed key(s) we want back the most. I kinda wish I said I'd pay the whole $180 for the set now.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 26 November 2017, 22:55:57
i like all of the changes
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: donutcat on Mon, 27 November 2017, 01:03:37
Nothing to get people's panties in a wad like a watster and no scoops. I'm fine with the scoops gone since they ruin R3, and I'm definitely fine with the other cuts for the purpose of cutting cost since they didn't have much effect on the set anyhow.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Owl- on Mon, 27 November 2017, 06:00:42
Can we get the white campfire or one of the R1 1u novelties to R2?

Would still greatly appreciate an R4 1u Hack key added to the base kit.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 27 November 2017, 06:07:27
26/11/2017 Rev. 2:

Please see OP for kit renders

Removed:
- R1 1u creamy white F5-F8
- R1 1u green ~`
- R2 1.5u green |\
- R3 1.75u stepped Control, regular caps lock(windowed)
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5
- R4 1u 00
- 6u Spacebars

Added:
- R4 1u End
- R1 1u Green watster novelty key
- R4 2u shift

Changed:
- R3 1u iso key changed to primary legend
- Green spacebars in the spacebar kit changed to maroon

Pls tell me what you think  :)

Personally I'm not very happy about the removal of:
- the alpha colored F5-F8 as a big 75% layout user,
- stepped Control (not as big of a deal)
- deep dish homing FJ5 (huge deal since I love scoops)

The Watster is a meme, and as was mentioned, it's not a good fit for the theme of the keyset.

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 27 November 2017, 06:08:22
Just received the quote for revision 2. I think we are looking good.
$165+domestic shipping cost for the base kit will be pretty much doable with this revision, of course I need to discuss this with regional vendors.
for the spacebar kit, we are looking at $30-ish at 250MOQ.

I'll add those scooped keys back in the next revision.
About the watster novelty, switch mod said something like he will stock this set if that key is added.
I thought that would help with MOQ and since tooling is already paid, it's just a regular 1u key.
That's the reason why I have added that key in revision 2.
I'll confirm this with switch mod and see if this is doable. If he's helping with MOQ.
I don't think it'd be so bad to have just 1 key added.

And for those who are willing to pay premium to have all keys that's been removed.
I understand that, I'd pay $200 to have them as well, but from the perspective of a GB runner.
I need to think about the majority and I can't risk MOQ for some keys that won't actually impact compatibility. I hope you understand this.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Mon, 27 November 2017, 06:23:28
Why not add a transparent red campfire key instead of watster? :) Ofc I am assuming GMK would use the same mold but transparent plastic this time
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 27 November 2017, 06:30:59
Why not add a transparent red campfire key instead of watster? :) Ofc I am assuming GMK would use the same mold but transparent plastic this time

I'm not sure if it's possible for GMK to produce those. I'll ask in my next mail.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Owl- on Mon, 27 November 2017, 07:31:39
Again, any chance to move any of the R1 novelties like the white campfire or another to R2 in the next revision? Would be nice if you could provide your thoughts on this instead of remaining silent with me. I am requesting this because there's already a good number of R1 novelties for use, moving any to R2 will provide a more efficient spread for small compact layout users.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 27 November 2017, 07:36:45
Again, any chance to move any of the R1 novelties like the white campfire or another to R2 in the next revision? Would be nice if you could provide your thoughts on this instead of remaining silent with me. I am requesting this because there's already a good number of R1 novelties for use, moving any to R2 will provide a more efficient spread for small compact layout users.

I don't think I would like to move any novelty key to R2, the novelty keys are minimized tbh.

This is what I'm planning to do with those novelty keys, put 4 green novelties on the F row for f5-f8, 3 different camp fire novelties on the function keys.

let me know if anyone else thinks some R2 novelties would be nice.

I don't think adding some will be doable since the package is already pretty huge.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: lithopedion on Mon, 27 November 2017, 07:46:48
Disappointed by some of the changes.

R4 2u shift is mainly for minila or XD64. That's very tempting. However you removed R1 1u green ~` and R2 1.5u green |\, which are very important for 60% keyboards IMO. These two keys costs little. Please do keep them!

As for the watster novelty, it has nothing to do with Camping! But if it helps with MOQ, Well I can always give it to some friend who want it anyway.

Just please add back R1 1u green ~` and R2 1.5u green |\

A 3 days voting might not be that accurate.

BTW I'm one of those who think some R2 novelties would be really nice. But I understand it's not a major demand.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Owl- on Mon, 27 November 2017, 07:52:02
I don't think I would like to move any novelty key to R2, the novelty keys are minimized tbh.

This is what I'm planning to do with those novelty keys, put 4 green novelties on the F row for f5-f8, 3 different camp fire novelties on the function keys.

let me know if anyone else thinks some R2 novelties would be nice.

I don't think adding some will be doable since the package is already pretty huge.

One R2 novelty is sufficient and enough, though two or three would be great; but the request is for one. It doesn't need to be a new novelty, a duplicate of any of the ones that exist is ok.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Owl- on Mon, 27 November 2017, 08:01:19
However you removed R1 1u green ~` and R2 1.5u green |\, which are very important for 60% keyboards IMO. These two keys costs little. Please do keep them!

Not sure how this is important as the keys already exist; it is mostly a colour symmetry OCD than an important matter since they're not modifiers.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 27 November 2017, 08:03:30
Disappointed by some of the changes.

R4 2u shift is mainly for minila or XD64. That's very tempting. However you removed R1 1u green ~` and R2 1.5u green |\, which are very important for 60% keyboards IMO. These two keys costs little. Please do keep them!

As for the watster novelty, it has nothing to do with Camping! But if it helps with MOQ, Well I can always give it to some friend who want it anyway.

Just please add back R1 1u green ~` and R2 1.5u green |\

A 3 days voting might not be that accurate.

BTW I'm one of those who think some R2 novelties would be really nice. But I understand it's not a major demand.

tbh, I don't quite understand why a green ~` is necessary for 60% percent boards, most ppl put a novelty or artisan there when it comes to 60%, not?

I have like 5 60% boards, and I never put a modifier colored |\ on them, but I can understand ppl do that.

It's just I wanna minimize aesthetics and make room for compatibility.   
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: skyybaby on Mon, 27 November 2017, 08:05:58
The removal of the green ~ and 1.5u / keys are absolutely frustrating. Makes this a pass for me honestly. Especially with the addition of a watster? Wtf.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: lithopedion on Mon, 27 November 2017, 08:11:19
Disappointed by some of the changes.

R4 2u shift is mainly for minila or XD64. That's very tempting. However you removed R1 1u green ~` and R2 1.5u green |\, which are very important for 60% keyboards IMO. These two keys costs little. Please do keep them!

As for the watster novelty, it has nothing to do with Camping! But if it helps with MOQ, Well I can always give it to some friend who want it anyway.

Just please add back R1 1u green ~` and R2 1.5u green |\

A 3 days voting might not be that accurate.

BTW I'm one of those who think some R2 novelties would be really nice. But I understand it's not a major demand.

tbh, I don't quite understand why a green ~` is necessary for 60% percent boards, most ppl put a novelty or artisan there when it comes to 60%, not?

I have like 5 60% boards, and I never put a modifier colored |\ on them, but I can understand ppl do that.

It's just I wanna minimize aesthetics and make room for compatibility.

Yes, a green ~ is more likely to be used on a 68-key layout(top right corner), and it surely can be replaced by a green novelty.
Please add green |\ back at least.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 27 November 2017, 08:17:44
Disappointed by some of the changes.

R4 2u shift is mainly for minila or XD64. That's very tempting. However you removed R1 1u green ~` and R2 1.5u green |\, which are very important for 60% keyboards IMO. These two keys costs little. Please do keep them!

As for the watster novelty, it has nothing to do with Camping! But if it helps with MOQ, Well I can always give it to some friend who want it anyway.

Just please add back R1 1u green ~` and R2 1.5u green |\

A 3 days voting might not be that accurate.

BTW I'm one of those who think some R2 novelties would be really nice. But I understand it's not a major demand.

tbh, I don't quite understand why a green ~` is necessary for 60% percent boards, most ppl put a novelty or artisan there when it comes to 60%, not?

I have like 5 60% boards, and I never put a modifier colored |\ on them, but I can understand ppl do that.

It's just I wanna minimize aesthetics and make room for compatibility.

Yes, a green ~ is more likely to be used on a 68-key layout(top right corner), and it surely can be replaced by a green novelty.
Please add green |\ back at least.

Let me talk to the regional vendors about the current quote first, then I will look into this.  ;)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 27 November 2017, 08:22:20
Can you please add back the 1.5u green |\ key?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: kconfire on Mon, 27 November 2017, 08:39:36
Oh s***!!

PLEASE SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY I DON'T GIVE A S*** I WILL PAY WHATEVER PRICE TO GET ALL OF THE KITS  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: avid on Mon, 27 November 2017, 08:53:17
..
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: soupymeatballs on Mon, 27 November 2017, 09:41:18
No 00 key?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Mon, 27 November 2017, 12:53:35
A bit saddened at the removal of the R2 1.5u Green |\ key but I'm still following this for further developments. Hope we all come to an agreement at the end~
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Kafka on Mon, 27 November 2017, 13:27:15
Did you ask GMK about the red/clear fire key?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 27 November 2017, 14:50:46
A bit saddened at the removal of the R2 1.5u Green |\ key but I'm still following this for further developments. Hope we all come to an agreement at the end~

This is also a key I would use. But it’s not a deal breaker. Glad scoops are returning.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: mbljs5555 on Mon, 27 November 2017, 15:32:03
Looks pretty nice!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Bits on Mon, 27 November 2017, 16:29:10
Love the new additions and the change to the spacebar color!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Mon, 27 November 2017, 16:43:35
A bit saddened at the removal of the R2 1.5u Green |\ key but I'm still following this for further developments. Hope we all come to an agreement at the end~

This is also a key I would use. But it’s not a deal breaker. Glad scoops are returning.

None of the novelties are being removed so that's A+ ;D
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: _rubik on Mon, 27 November 2017, 16:51:21
A bit saddened at the removal of the R2 1.5u Green |\ key but I'm still following this for further developments. Hope we all come to an agreement at the end~

This is also a key I would use. But it’s not a deal breaker. Glad scoops are returning.

None of the novelties are being removed so that's A+ ;D

Yeah but we added the watster... wat?? Why? It literally has nothing to do with SA Camping. If we're being that suggestible, why don't we run a matching green and red boobycap gb. We could call it boobycamp....
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 27 November 2017, 17:59:58
A bit saddened at the removal of the R2 1.5u Green |\ key but I'm still following this for further developments. Hope we all come to an agreement at the end~

This is also a key I would use. But it’s not a deal breaker. Glad scoops are returning.

None of the novelties are being removed so that's A+ ;D

Yeah but we added the watster... wat?? Why? It literally has nothing to do with SA Camping. If we're being that suggestible, why don't we run a matching green and red boobycap gb. We could call it boobycamp....

Read the entire thread before you comment. The watster was added cause one of the stores said they would stock sets if it was included. The cost of 1 key is negligible and is totally worth it to sell a bunch of extra sets and help moq.

Edit: oops
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Wolf123rt on Mon, 27 November 2017, 18:51:20
Add the scooped F and J back

Scoops>Bars
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: DJ Shoko on Mon, 27 November 2017, 19:22:26
Add the scooped F and J back

Scoops>Bars
The Scoops are coming back, lol
I'll add those scooped keys back in the next revision.
But I'm glad scoops are coming back, but I'll show my support for this set no matter what direction it goes in and if adding Watster helps with MOQ then by all means keep him in. I just want this set to happen which is what's most important.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Kafka on Mon, 27 November 2017, 20:14:24

Read the entire thread before you comment. The watster was added cause one of the stores said they would stock sets if it was included. The cost of 1 key is negligible and is totally worth it to sell a bunch of extra sets and help moq.


Nobody reads threads lol
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: _rubik on Mon, 27 November 2017, 20:51:13

Read the entire thread before you comment. The watster was added cause one of the stores said they would stock sets if it was included. The cost of 1 key is negligible and is totally worth it to sell a bunch of extra sets and help moq.


Nobody reads threads lol

I have indeed read the thread. But if you look at the overwhelming cries of the commenters, few people actually want it here. And, more importantly, useful keys are getting cut in favor novelties. Personally, I'm largely indifferent towards it, but I can't help but seeing how ridiculous it is. I vote function over form ... but I just bought a Gaijin laser set so I really shouldn't talk. :wat:

Edit: with the popularity of SA Camping, I doubt we really need the watster for this set to be picked up be a distributor anyway.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: bthezebra on Mon, 27 November 2017, 21:11:19
Showing my support for the set.

(https://i.imgur.com/347ZsQJ.jpg) (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92644.0)

Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 27 November 2017, 21:12:49

Read the entire thread before you comment. The watster was added cause one of the stores said they would stock sets if it was included. The cost of 1 key is negligible and is totally worth it to sell a bunch of extra sets and help moq.


Nobody reads threads lol

I have indeed read the thread. But if you look at the overwhelming cries of the commenters, few people actually want it here. And, more importantly, useful keys are getting cut in favor novelties. Personally, I'm largely indifferent towards it, but I can't help but seeing how ridiculous it is. I vote function over form ... but I just bought a Gaijin laser set so I really shouldn't talk. :wat:

Edit: with the popularity of SA Camping, I doubt we really need the watster for this set to be picked up be a distributor anyway.

You understand you are literally getting worked up over like $2 right?

You don’t want a watster we get it. Most people are indifferent. Some like myself would love to get one. For $2 and the added benefit of a distributor, this seems simple to me.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (26/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: _rubik on Mon, 27 November 2017, 21:48:06

Read the entire thread before you comment. The watster was added cause one of the stores said they would stock sets if it was included. The cost of 1 key is negligible and is totally worth it to sell a bunch of extra sets and help moq.


Nobody reads threads lol

I have indeed read the thread. But if you look at the overwhelming cries of the commenters, few people actually want it here. And, more importantly, useful keys are getting cut in favor novelties. Personally, I'm largely indifferent towards it, but I can't help but seeing how ridiculous it is. I vote function over form ... but I just bought a Gaijin laser set so I really shouldn't talk. :wat:

Edit: with the popularity of SA Camping, I doubt we really need the watster for this set to be picked up be a distributor anyway.

You understand you are literally getting worked up over like $2 right?

You don’t want a watster we get it. Most people are indifferent. Some like myself would love to get one. For $2 and the added benefit of a distributor, this seems simple to me.

I'm not really getting worked up.... It's just a silly key to include when functional keys are getting cut.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 28 November 2017, 15:38:47
Removed:

- R1 1u green watster novelty key

Added:

- R1 1u green ~`
- R2 1.5u green |\
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: avid on Tue, 28 November 2017, 15:40:11
Thank you.

This kit is now so beautiful, i hope we're ready to go!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: DJ Shoko on Tue, 28 November 2017, 16:31:28
The set is looking really amazing right now, glad progress is going well. I'm happy with the current state of the set. Hope to see the MOQ and price update and get this GB started if all is good and ready. :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: kconfire on Tue, 28 November 2017, 16:45:31
Can't wait for this to drop!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: BlackInk on Tue, 28 November 2017, 17:11:40
Removed:

- R1 1u green watster novelty key

Added:

- R1 1u green ~`
- R2 1.5u green |\
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5
Nice, its perfect now :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Tue, 28 November 2017, 18:32:48
I’m ready for this to drop now, so good dude!


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: bminhz on Tue, 28 November 2017, 18:42:58
Removed:

- R1 1u green watster novelty key

Added:

- R1 1u green ~`
- R2 1.5u green |\
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5

This is perfect changes. My body is ready!


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 28 November 2017, 19:00:18
i liked the watster but whatever it's your set
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Tue, 28 November 2017, 22:13:27
Removed:

- R1 1u green watster novelty key

Added:

- R1 1u green ~`
- R2 1.5u green |\
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5

I mean I was already going to buy but now I'm going to buy the **** out of this. Great news :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 03:29:47
i liked the watster but whatever it's your set

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Cloudnine25 on Wed, 29 November 2017, 06:09:25
Are there a possibility to have red campfire keycap?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Wed, 29 November 2017, 07:29:58
Are there a possibility to have red campfire keycap?

He said this about that:

Why not add a transparent red campfire key instead of watster? :) Ofc I am assuming GMK would use the same mold but transparent plastic this time

I'm not sure if it's possible for GMK to produce those. I'll ask in my next mail.

If GMK can't make it, then can we have a simple artisan instead? Granted Monkey Six and Kingnestea allow for such a thing. People who opted in GMK Camping are the only ones allowed to have a chance at purchasing such a thing. Newbie me is wary of the logistic/shipping nightmare tho.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Wed, 29 November 2017, 07:41:06
Are there a possibility to have red campfire keycap?

He said this about that:

Why not add a transparent red campfire key instead of watster? :) Ofc I am assuming GMK would use the same mold but transparent plastic this time

I'm not sure if it's possible for GMK to produce those. I'll ask in my next mail.

If GMK can't make it, then can we have a simple artisan instead? Granted Monkey Six and Kingnestea allow for such a thing. People who opted in GMK Camping are the only ones allowed to have a chance at purchasing such a thing. Newbie me is wary of the logistic/shipping nightmare tho.

I'll contact Dat Chau, the maker of this nice owl artisan I had in this picture https://imgur.com/2hue6p8 (https://imgur.com/2hue6p8) and see if he has any great idea about that.
In the meanwhile, I have sent pictures to Christoph regarding that translucent camp fire novelty key we have in SA Camping.
I hope that GMK can provide something similar.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: typischt on Wed, 29 November 2017, 07:56:26
Are there a possibility to have red campfire keycap?

He said this about that:

Why not add a transparent red campfire key instead of watster? :) Ofc I am assuming GMK would use the same mold but transparent plastic this time

I'm not sure if it's possible for GMK to produce those. I'll ask in my next mail.

If GMK can't make it, then can we have a simple artisan instead? Granted Monkey Six and Kingnestea allow for such a thing. People who opted in GMK Camping are the only ones allowed to have a chance at purchasing such a thing. Newbie me is wary of the logistic/shipping nightmare tho.

I'll contact Dat Chau, the maker of this nice owl artisan I had in this picture https://imgur.com/2hue6p8 (https://imgur.com/2hue6p8) and see if he has any great idea about that.
In the meanwhile, I have sent pictures to Christoph regarding that translucent camp fire novelty key we have in SA Camping.
I hope that GMK can provide something similar.
That owl does look amazing! :D
Something like it or the translucent Campfire key would be the cherry on top!
Thanks for all the work you are putting in!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: iliketimex on Wed, 29 November 2017, 12:23:45
2u shift is nice. Also like the green ~ and \.

Is there a reason for so few burgundy keys? No R4 burgundy at all apart from the nav keys.
Edit: nvm, i see the spacebar set changed to burgundy. I could have sworn the spacebar set was all green when I first looked.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Wed, 29 November 2017, 13:48:47
2u shift is nice. Also like the green ~ and \.

Is there a reason for so few burgundy keys? No R4 burgundy at all apart from the nav keys.
Edit: nvm, i see the spacebar set changed to burgundy. I could have sworn the spacebar set was all green when I first looked.

The spacebar set was a mix of green and cream before. He changed it to maroon and cream. Green spacebars made the set look too green
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Owl- on Wed, 29 November 2017, 16:36:02
Any progression for an R2 novelty?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Bits on Wed, 29 November 2017, 20:17:10
Removed:

- R1 1u green watster novelty key

Added:

- R1 1u green ~`
- R2 1.5u green |\
- R3 1u dished F, J, 5
Kinda sad to see the watster go. Still a solid set though.

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: ninjacore on Wed, 29 November 2017, 21:34:25
Love this color palette.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 30 November 2017, 00:31:08
How close are these colors to Coniferous anyway? The green is quite different I think?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Thu, 30 November 2017, 00:58:09
If this runs next after Laser, are we looking at shipping like third quarter next year?


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: BlackInk on Thu, 30 November 2017, 01:42:31
Yo Is this going to run after Laser? That would be sick :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 30 November 2017, 01:47:07
Kingnestea mentioned in slack that the clear campfire novelty WILL be in this set.

Get hype.
Title: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Thu, 30 November 2017, 02:20:13
Kingnestea mentioned in slack that the clear campfire novelty WILL be in this set.

Get hype.

Hell yeah. Keyboard with f-row leds *tick* . 

Let’s do this


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (28/11/2017 Kit design revised)
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Thu, 30 November 2017, 12:51:29
This set would look beautiful on a board paired with a nice wooden wrist rest!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: kingnestea on Thu, 30 November 2017, 14:10:36
30/11/2017

Added more renders from our homie thesiscamper :D :D
GMK confirmed they can produce that translucent novelty key as SP made for SA Camping.
Still awaiting final quote with that translucent novelty.

Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: iHateKnives on Thu, 30 November 2017, 14:19:45
30/11/2017

Added more renders from our homie thesiscamper :D :D
GMK confirmed they can produce that translucent novelty key as SP made for SA Camping.
Still awaiting final quote with that translucent novelty.

Bring it on! Skipped on a set for this so I should have plenty of money to burn >:D and cry :'( about but at least I'll have one of the sexiest GMK's ever :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: THRILLHOIAF on Thu, 30 November 2017, 14:34:41
Dammmmmmn those new renders are clean...

I already have SA Camping...not sure how I'll convince the Missus that I need the same colourway in a different profile...but I have faith in my ability

looks great!!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: kingnestea on Thu, 30 November 2017, 14:52:15
Dammmmmmn those new renders are clean...

I already have SA Camping...not sure how I'll convince the Missus that I need the same colourway in a different profile...but I have faith in my ability

looks great!!

Tell her that Camping will not happen in DCS/DSA or whatsoever
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 30 November 2017, 15:24:34
Dammmmmmn those new renders are clean...

I already have SA Camping...not sure how I'll convince the Missus that I need the same colourway in a different profile...but I have faith in my ability

looks great!!

Tell her that Camping will not happen in DCS/DSA or whatsoever

but muh DCS
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: DJ Shoko on Thu, 30 November 2017, 15:27:20
The new renders are looking amazing, but I've noticed that the star, moon, and fish R1 novelties are in maroon in the 96 key render whereas in the kit render it's green, are these novelties actually gonna change to maroon or are they going to be green like in the current kit render?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: kingnestea on Thu, 30 November 2017, 15:48:38
The new renders are looking amazing, but I've noticed that the star, moon, and fish R1 novelties are in maroon in the 96 key render whereas in the kit render it's green, are these novelties actually gonna change to maroon or are they going to be green like in the current kit render?

Green, I didn't notice that, those 2 on the Kira are early renders, thesiscamper is pretty busy lately. I think I'm not gonna bug him to remake those.
for those who are wondering why we've changed the novelty keys to green, different from SA Camping, it was MonkeySix's idea and I do agree with him.
imo, Cherry profile is more classic looking and should not have so much accents as SA keysets do.

btw, although those renders from thesiscamper are super awesome, I do think the renders from Oblotzky are more accurate in terms of color.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: eksuen on Thu, 30 November 2017, 16:19:54
I'm always happy with more green! I'll definitely be joining this.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Thu, 30 November 2017, 16:26:23

btw, although those renders from thesiscamper are super awesome, I do think the renders from Oblotzky are more accurate in terms of color.

This is good to hear. The more washed out green and beige doesn’t look as nice as the original renders. Can’t wait dude!



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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 30 November 2017, 16:41:28
30/11/2017

Added more renders from our homie thesiscamper :D :D
GMK confirmed they can produce that translucent novelty key as SP made for SA Camping.
Still awaiting final quote with that translucent novelty.

Does that mean GMK could actually do a full transparent double shot set?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Thu, 30 November 2017, 16:42:39
 Is there any way we can see a render on a grey compact 1800 board?..... :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 30 November 2017, 17:00:11
30/11/2017

Added more renders from our homie thesiscamper :D :D
GMK confirmed they can produce that translucent novelty key as SP made for SA Camping.
Still awaiting final quote with that translucent novelty.

Does that mean GMK could actually do a full transparent double shot set?

i imagine it would be expensive
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (30/11/2017 added more renders)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Thu, 30 November 2017, 17:03:34
Is there any way we can see a render on a grey compact 1800 board?..... :)

I like your thinking ;)

+1
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 01 December 2017, 08:15:17
01/12/2017 Rev.4:

Added:

- R1 1u translucent campfire novelty
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: Hazzula on Fri, 01 December 2017, 09:13:19
01/12/2017 Rev.4:

Added:

- R1 1u translucent campfire novelty
HOT DAMN. Now thats something people would like

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Tue, 05 December 2017, 10:59:21
Would a standard red text return key be possible for both the numpad and the main return?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Wed, 06 December 2017, 05:10:52
Would a standard red text return key be possible for both the numpad and the main return?

I like the idea of a maroon return key for numpad, not so sure about the regular return since we already have a maroon novelty key for that.
Shall we change the numpad return key to maroon? I don't really wanna add one because I really don't wanna bump up the pricing anymore.

In the meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the quote for revision 4. Christoph has been busy I guess. I will send him a reminder if I don't hear from him by the end of today.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Wed, 06 December 2017, 06:42:08
Would a standard red text return key be possible for both the numpad and the main return?

I like the idea of a maroon return key for numpad, not so sure about the regular return since we already have a maroon novelty key for that.
Shall we change the numpad return key to maroon? I don't really wanna add one because I really don't wanna bump up the pricing anymore.

In the meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the quote for revision 4. Christoph has been busy I guess. I will send him a reminder if I don't hear from him by the end of today.

I didn't put much thought into the numpad area since I'm on a 60% board. But if I do end up getting a full board or a separate numpad, I'd like to have a maroon enter key instead of green to balance out the color scheme :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: avid on Wed, 06 December 2017, 07:27:07
Would a standard red text return key be possible for both the numpad and the main return?

I like the idea of a maroon return key for numpad, not so sure about the regular return since we already have a maroon novelty key for that.
Shall we change the numpad return key to maroon? I don't really wanna add one because I really don't wanna bump up the pricing anymore.

In the meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the quote for revision 4. Christoph has been busy I guess. I will send him a reminder if I don't hear from him by the end of today.

If only one numpad, please keep it green. Accent keys are fine, but usually they are offered as extras. Having a totally green + white set and then a maroon enter will make it look quite inconsistent.

On seperate numpads, it will look quite weird with one maroon key.

Title: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Wed, 06 December 2017, 07:42:27
Would a standard red text return key be possible for both the numpad and the main return?

I like the idea of a maroon return key for numpad, not so sure about the regular return since we already have a maroon novelty key for that.
Shall we change the numpad return key to maroon? I don't really wanna add one because I really don't wanna bump up the pricing anymore.

In the meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the quote for revision 4. Christoph has been busy I guess. I will send him a reminder if I don't hear from him by the end of today.

I wouldn’t want to replace the standard green return key on the numpad. Just wanted to see if an additional red numpad can be offered.

I personally like the look of the different colour return key even on separate numpads.

However if it drives the price up too much, don’t worry about it. Was just throwing it out there to see if others felt the same.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: Laughmaster on Wed, 06 December 2017, 10:25:00
Would a standard red text return key be possible for both the numpad and the main return?

I like the idea of a maroon return key for numpad, not so sure about the regular return since we already have a maroon novelty key for that.
Shall we change the numpad return key to maroon? I don't really wanna add one because I really don't wanna bump up the pricing anymore.

In the meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the quote for revision 4. Christoph has been busy I guess. I will send him a reminder if I don't hear from him by the end of today.

I like the idea of a maroon return for the numpad, but I definitely wouldn't want to remove the green one to add it. I'm still on the fence with whether I'll use the maroon accents at all; I'd rather not be forced to.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: kconfire on Thu, 07 December 2017, 15:18:41
When do you suppose this will take off?
Can't wait to jump in!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Thu, 07 December 2017, 23:09:49
When do you suppose this will take off?
Can't wait to jump in!

I think we are looking at late Dec. or early Jan. it depends on how well the quotation process will run in the next few days.
I'm still considering about that maroon numpad return. This should be the last change we make.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: BlackInk on Thu, 07 December 2017, 23:13:02
When do you suppose this will take off?
Can't wait to jump in!

I think we are looking at late Dec. or early Jan. it depends on how well the quotation process will run in the next few days.
I'm still considering about that maroon numpad return. This should be the last change we make.
Yes, please run it asap, i'm so ready for it...... my body, my mind, my money  :p
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: avid on Thu, 07 December 2017, 23:31:30
When do you suppose this will take off?
Can't wait to jump in!

I think we are looking at late Dec. or early Jan. it depends on how well the quotation process will run in the next few days.
I'm still considering about that maroon numpad return. This should be the last change we make.

Both colors? Shouldnt add more than $1-2 (?) to price.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Thu, 07 December 2017, 23:55:40
When do you suppose this will take off?
Can't wait to jump in!

I think we are looking at late Dec. or early Jan. it depends on how well the quotation process will run in the next few days.
I'm still considering about that maroon numpad return. This should be the last change we make.

Both colors? Shouldnt add more than $1-2 (?) to price.

Hmm if it really is only $1-2 for the extra key. Would it be the same cost to add an additional  maroon main modifier enter key with the text “enter”

I know we already have the mountain enter key but presumably for a few dollars more it would give more options for people that might want a more simplistic look as well.

That’s my 2 cents anyways.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 08 December 2017, 00:36:56
When do you suppose this will take off?
Can't wait to jump in!

I think we are looking at late Dec. or early Jan. it depends on how well the quotation process will run in the next few days.
I'm still considering about that maroon numpad return. This should be the last change we make.

Both colors? Shouldnt add more than $1-2 (?) to price.

Hmm if it really is only $1-2 for the extra key. Would it be the same cost to add an additional  maroon main modifier enter key with the text “enter”

I know we already have the mountain enter key but presumably for a few dollars more it would give more options for people that might want a more simplistic look as well.

That’s my 2 cents anyways.

I think I will add the maroon numpad return, but not the regular one because the cost is already over my expectation.
We can't keep adding keys because they just cost ~$2 per key
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Fri, 08 December 2017, 09:33:24
When do you suppose this will take off?
Can't wait to jump in!

I think we are looking at late Dec. or early Jan. it depends on how well the quotation process will run in the next few days.
I'm still considering about that maroon numpad return. This should be the last change we make.

I think I will add the maroon numpad return, but not the regular one because the cost is already over my expectation.
We can't keep adding keys because they just cost ~$2 per key

Both colors? Shouldnt add more than $1-2 (?) to price.

Hmm if it really is only $1-2 for the extra key. Would it be the same cost to add an additional  maroon main modifier enter key with the text “enter”

I know we already have the mountain enter key but presumably for a few dollars more it would give more options for people that might want a more simplistic look as well.

That’s my 2 cents anyways.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: luismonterieart on Fri, 08 December 2017, 10:10:17
Very nice colors, I'm down for this set.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: duckboi on Fri, 08 December 2017, 12:46:35
This looks great! There needs to be more green keysets made. Do you have a rough price estimate for this set? I want to get an idea of how much I'm going to hurt going into it.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Fri, 08 December 2017, 21:40:26
I know I am beating a dead horse but look at these old renders of a standard maroon escape and enter key.  Just look at those aestehtics!!! :)

(https://i.imgur.com/STZ0ZAX.png)


OK I will stop now.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 08 December 2017, 21:59:59
I know I am beating a dead horse but look at these old renders of a standard maroon escape and enter key.  Just look at those aestehtics!!! :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/STZ0ZAX.png)



OK I will stop now.

Meh

I could do without it.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: avid on Fri, 08 December 2017, 22:23:09
I know I am beating a dead horse but look at these old renders of a standard maroon escape and enter key.  Just look at those aestehtics!!! :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/STZ0ZAX.png)



OK I will stop now.

Meh

I could do without it.

yep this.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Fri, 08 December 2017, 22:29:16
Ugh I tried....:(
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sat, 09 December 2017, 00:09:21
Im so ready for this, it’s the finishing touch I need in 8 months time


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 09 December 2017, 02:07:12
Ugh I tried....:(

Don’t get me wrong. If enough people wanted it. I’d gladly pay the $2. I just think the mountain will get way more use anyway.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Sat, 09 December 2017, 03:57:24
I know I am beating a dead horse but look at these old renders of a standard maroon escape and enter key.  Just look at those aestehtics!!! :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/STZ0ZAX.png)



OK I will stop now.

Meh
I know I am beating a dead horse but look at these old renders of a standard maroon escape and enter key.  Just look at those aestehtics!!! :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/STZ0ZAX.png)



OK I will stop now.

Meh

I could do without it.

Same... it doesn't have the outdoorsy vibe without the mountains novelty :)

I could do without it.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: Laughmaster on Sat, 09 December 2017, 09:18:22
When do you suppose this will take off?
Can't wait to jump in!

I think we are looking at late Dec. or early Jan. it depends on how well the quotation process will run in the next few days.
I'm still considering about that maroon numpad return. This should be the last change we make.

Both colors? Shouldnt add more than $1-2 (?) to price.

Hmm if it really is only $1-2 for the extra key. Would it be the same cost to add an additional  maroon main modifier enter key with the text “enter”

I know we already have the mountain enter key but presumably for a few dollars more it would give more options for people that might want a more simplistic look as well.

That’s my 2 cents anyways.

I think I will add the maroon numpad return, but not the regular one because the cost is already over my expectation.
We can't keep adding keys because they just cost ~$2 per key

Seriously, please don't remove the green numpad return. I get that you don't want the price going up, but that forces anyone with a numpad to use the maroon accents. If you're going to do that you might as well remove the green arrows, remove the green novelty return, and make the regular return maroon too.

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=92644.0;attach=182466;image)

Am I the only one who thinks this set looks good without accents?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: OmegaSupreme on Sat, 09 December 2017, 09:28:49
When do you suppose this will take off?
Can't wait to jump in!

I think we are looking at late Dec. or early Jan. it depends on how well the quotation process will run in the next few days.
I'm still considering about that maroon numpad return. This should be the last change we make.

Both colors? Shouldnt add more than $1-2 (?) to price.

Hmm if it really is only $1-2 for the extra key. Would it be the same cost to add an additional  maroon main modifier enter key with the text “enter”

I know we already have the mountain enter key but presumably for a few dollars more it would give more options for people that might want a more simplistic look as well.

That’s my 2 cents anyways.

I think I will add the maroon numpad return, but not the regular one because the cost is already over my expectation.
We can't keep adding keys because they just cost ~$2 per key

Seriously, please don't remove the green numpad return. I get that you don't want the price going up, but that forces anyone with a numpad to use the maroon accents. If you're going to do that you might as well remove the green arrows, remove the green novelty return, and make the regular return maroon too.

Show Image
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=92644.0;attach=182466;image)


Am I the only one who thinks this set looks good without accents?

He already said he is not removing the green numpad enter.

The maroon would just be an addition.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sat, 09 December 2017, 09:41:29
I think the maroon accents are really what makes the set so nice. Otherwise it starts to become reminiscent of a cheap taobao or Tai hao green/white set


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: avid on Sat, 09 December 2017, 12:38:08

He already said he is not removing the green numpad enter.

The maroon would just be an addition.

Nope. From earlier,

Shall we change the numpad return key to maroon? I don't really wanna add one because I really don't wanna bump up the pricing anymore.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 09 December 2017, 12:39:43
I'm working on the updated kit render. Maroon numpad return will be added, not replacing the green one.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: avid on Sat, 09 December 2017, 12:40:44
I'm working on the updated kit render. Maroon numpad return will be added, not replacing the green one.

Sounds great! Is this the final revision?  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 09 December 2017, 12:43:21
I'm working on the updated kit render. Maroon numpad return will be added, not replacing the green one.

Sounds great! Is this the final revision?  :thumb:

I believe so.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: hineybush on Sun, 10 December 2017, 20:08:16
This has probably been asked, but would it be worth splitting novelties into their own pack?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 10 December 2017, 20:14:36
This has probably been asked, but would it be worth splitting novelties into their own pack?

no

not a massdrop set, so numbers are a worry
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: Auchindoun on Sun, 10 December 2017, 20:32:30
What's the best way to keep up to date with this drop since it won't be on Massdrop? Will everything go through this thread? I'm not on Geekhack that often
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 10 December 2017, 20:36:42
What's the best way to keep up to date with this drop since it won't be on Massdrop? Will everything go through this thread? I'm not on Geekhack that often

this thread
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: MeloDet on Sun, 10 December 2017, 20:37:36
What's the best way to keep up to date with this drop since it won't be on Massdrop? Will everything go through this thread? I'm not on Geekhack that often

Click the notify button in the top right of the thread. You'll get an email anytime someone posts.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: Auchindoun on Sun, 10 December 2017, 20:41:49
What's the best way to keep up to date with this drop since it won't be on Massdrop? Will everything go through this thread? I'm not on Geekhack that often

Click the notify button in the top right of the thread. You'll get an email anytime someone posts.

cool :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 11 December 2017, 00:40:25
This has probably been asked, but would it be worth splitting novelties into their own pack?

Splitting into kits with GMK will significantly increase the total price because they have a fully automated production line.
This is also the reason why the most GMK sets are all-in-one.

For ppl located in the US:
Kono store by input club has already put up a temporary page, you can join the waitlist there.
https://kono.store/products/gmk-camping
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 11 December 2017, 00:52:05
This has probably been asked, but would it be worth splitting novelties into their own pack?

Splitting into kits with GMK will significantly increase the total price because they have a fully automated production line.
This is also the reason why the most GMK sets are all-in-one.

For ppl located in the US:
Kono store by input club has already put up a temporary page, you can join the waitlist there.
https://kono.store/products/gmk-camping

Yay, Gb is going to start soon?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 11 December 2017, 14:41:16
11/12/2017 Rev.5:

Added:

- Maroon numpad return key.

Check OP for the kit render pls.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: avid on Mon, 11 December 2017, 14:52:12
Beautiful set. Cant wait for GB to start.

I see it as a $140 base with $35 novelties kit combined into one, so price looks good.  :thumb:



Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Mon, 11 December 2017, 17:22:36
Yep I’m definitely in too. $175 though.. ouch. Guess this is my keeb purchase for the month.


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: stevenpa on Mon, 11 December 2017, 19:03:17
In as well. Though I thought we'd be in $150-160 range with the keys taken out? Though I guess it is a ton of new molds
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 11 December 2017, 23:16:11
In as well. Though I thought we'd be in $150-160 range with the keys taken out? Though I guess it is a ton of new molds

There were 6 keys removed, but we added another 3 keys, including a translucent novelty key...
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 12 December 2017, 01:09:43
EU proxy?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: ninjacore on Tue, 12 December 2017, 03:08:18
Joined the list
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: Blurple33 on Tue, 12 December 2017, 21:36:13
Was there any luck on green ISO Enter?  Saw that the latest is possibly the last revision, but didn't see confirmation.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Thu, 14 December 2017, 01:07:49
So the base set is gonna be $175usd... how much would the space bar kit cost?

*pls let it be $35*
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 14 December 2017, 01:24:57
So the base set is gonna be $175usd... how much would the space bar kit cost?

*pls let it be $35*

prolly less
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: schoolbus on Thu, 14 December 2017, 10:20:38
What's the best way to keep up to date with this drop since it won't be on Massdrop? Will everything go through this thread? I'm not on Geekhack that often

https://kono.store/products/gmk-camping
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: SpareWalrus on Thu, 14 December 2017, 11:19:34
I really want to join this, but the price is pretty steep. With shipping to Canada it will be close to $200. A bit hard to swallow compared to recent GMK sets (I know, this won’t have Massdrop volume). Decisions, decisions.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Thu, 14 December 2017, 12:02:36
I really want to join this, but the price is pretty steep. With shipping to Canada it will be close to $200. A bit hard to swallow compared to recent GMK sets (I know, this won’t have Massdrop volume). Decisions, decisions.

Not just volume, Camping has a huge pack of novelty keys.
All pricing I've been estimating so far is based on 250 MOQ, it won't be much cheaper if this is gonna be on MD as starting point, just we have bigger chance to unlocker higher MOQ tiers.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Thu, 14 December 2017, 12:03:37
So the base set is gonna be $175usd... how much would the space bar kit cost?

*pls let it be $35*

should be around that price point at 100 MOQ, cheaper if we make it to 250 for the spacebar kit
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: BJW on Fri, 15 December 2017, 02:32:39
How much would the price be if the 500set is sold?
Just curious ;D
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: cocobrais on Fri, 15 December 2017, 02:38:40
How much would the price be if the 500set is sold?
Just curious ;D
maybe around 160usd?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: heliar_mk on Fri, 15 December 2017, 03:14:23
So the base set is gonna be $175usd... how much would the space bar kit cost?

*pls let it be $35*

should be around that price point at 100 MOQ, cheaper if we make it to 250 for the spacebar kit
Hope that so. If this could be on MD, maybe we can hit the 1000MOQ. :p
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: NorrisB on Fri, 15 December 2017, 21:07:10
I like it
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: ramnes on Sun, 17 December 2017, 18:01:09
interested
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: skyian on Fri, 22 December 2017, 03:09:57
I knew this project two days ago.  I am a user in Taiwan. I wonder if I could join this project. It’s such a pity that I missed the SA-CAMPING. I wish I could have the chance to join this project. 
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: DJ Shoko on Fri, 22 December 2017, 06:18:19
I knew this project two days ago.  I am a user in Taiwan. I wonder if I could join this project. It’s such a pity that I missed the SA-CAMPING. I wish I could have the chance to join this project.
I think the kit is moreorless finalized now, but the group buy hasn't started yet so you should be able to join the group buy relatively soon when it happens. I don' lt know if there will be a Taiwanese proxy though.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: quantan267 on Wed, 27 December 2017, 11:50:32
Count me in for both base and spacebar kit
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: thinksimple on Thu, 28 December 2017, 04:39:05
I knew this project two days ago.  I am a user in Taiwan. I wonder if I could join this project. It’s such a pity that I missed the SA-CAMPING. I wish I could have the chance to join this project.
You should be able to. Almost definitely this will open. And there should be proxy to ship to Taiwan.


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 29 December 2017, 11:52:23
A quick update on this project.
I got sick after spending the Christmas in Cologne, so the whole progress is slowed a little bit down.
But the kits are finalized and we have a finalized quotation from GMK.
The next is to loop all the proxies in my mail chain with GMK.
We are looking at early Jan. 2018 for the GB.
Proxies are listed as below:
US: Kono store by input club
EU: mykeyboards.eu
Asia/Taobao: KP and zfrontier
Korea: Cocobrais

Thanks for all your help and all kinds of suggestions! I wish you all happy holidays, and stay tuned for early Jan. ! ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Fri, 29 December 2017, 12:35:31
A quick update on this project.
I got sick after spending the Christmas in Cologne, so the whole progress is slowed a little bit down.
But the kits are finalized and we have a finalized quotation from GMK.
The next is to loop all the proxies in my mail chain with GMK.
We are looking at early Jan. 2018 for the GB.
Proxies are listed as below:
US: Kono store by input club
EU: mykeyboards.eu
Asia/Taobao: KP and zfrontier
Korea: Cocobrais

Thanks for all your help and all kinds of suggestions! I wish you all happy holidays, and stay tuned for early Jan. ! ;) ;) ;)

Wasn't expecting any update during the holidays  :)) but thank you for taking the time. Looking forward to the GB!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: superiorgorg30 on Fri, 29 December 2017, 12:37:48
So hyped for this set. Can’t wait. Roll on 2018 :)


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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: mudcakehoney on Fri, 29 December 2017, 13:04:59
Amazing! Will Australia be able to join through the Asia proxy to keep postage down? We always get smashed with postage down here
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 29 December 2017, 13:25:26
Amazing! Will Australia be able to join through the Asia proxy to keep postage down? We always get smashed with postage down here

I think zfrontier ships int'l as well, and kono store, you can choose which GB you wanna join.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: BlackInk on Fri, 29 December 2017, 14:20:11
Naisu, I’m ready for GB
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: hndle on Sun, 31 December 2017, 07:22:42
 I'M READY!!!!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:44:21
Can we make all the novelties from green to burgundy? they were burgundy in SA profile not sure why we changed it to green in GMK
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: DJ Shoko on Sun, 31 December 2017, 18:22:18
Can we make all the novelties from green to burgundy? they were burgundy in SA profile not sure why we changed it to green in GMK
It's already been confirmed that they won't be changed to maroon earlier this thread.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (11/12/2017 kit design revised)
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 31 December 2017, 18:33:35
Can we make all the novelties from green to burgundy? they were burgundy in SA profile not sure why we changed it to green in GMK
It's already been confirmed that they won't be changed to maroon earlier this thread.
That’s sad, i didn’t notice until i compared the Base kit and the render on kono website, the novelties in the render were maroon :(
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 01 January 2018, 12:09:46
01/01/2018 Rev.6:

Changed green novelty keys to maroon

[attach=1]

I have taken a good thought about the novelty keys. I agree that the maroon novelty keys are what makes Camping.
Hence, we have changed the novelty keys back to maroon.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: Kafka on Mon, 01 January 2018, 12:12:00
01/01/2018 Rev.6:

Changed green novelty keys to maroon

(Attachment Link)

I have taken a good thought about the novelty keys. I agree that the maroon novelty keys are what makes Camping.
Hence, we have changed the novelty keys back to maroon.

My keyboard is ready :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: DJ Shoko on Mon, 01 January 2018, 13:52:00
I'm so ready now, the maroon novelties makes it an even nicer set now.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Mon, 01 January 2018, 13:57:48
I love you for reverting novelties back to maroon. This is perfect. Even more excited!!!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 01 January 2018, 13:59:53
01/01/2018 Rev.6:

Changed green novelty keys to maroon

(Attachment Link)

I have taken a good thought about the novelty keys. I agree that the maroon novelty keys are what makes Camping.
Hence, we have changed the novelty keys back to maroon.

Wow, you are the man....... This is just pure perfection

Thanks for changing to back to maroon. Happy new year everyone!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: Rumblehotep on Mon, 01 January 2018, 16:17:38
Changed green novelty keys to maroon
Oh no, my wallet
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: The_judge_168 on Mon, 01 January 2018, 22:21:43
Nice change, ready for this set to drop
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: hndle on Tue, 02 January 2018, 08:51:21
my money is ready
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: strigif0rm3s on Tue, 02 January 2018, 15:21:26
ready too. omg. bye bye money. crap. :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: Rykno on Tue, 02 January 2018, 19:56:28
Is there still a maroon spacebar option?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 02 January 2018, 20:01:17
Is there still a maroon spacebar option?

The spacebars kit got a bit burried in the OP, but it's still there, worry not!

(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=92644.0;attach=182951;image)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: BOK on Thu, 04 January 2018, 05:35:56
If you have Korea proxy, I will join this set. How much do you expect for this set?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Thu, 04 January 2018, 09:18:59
If you have Korea proxy, I will join this set. How much do you expect for this set?

The base set is around $175 and the spacebar kit is around $35. The Proxy for Korea is Cocobrais  :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: strigif0rm3s on Fri, 05 January 2018, 08:29:17
Any idea when this will run?
Im in the USA and would LOVE LOVE LOVE this set.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: DJ Shoko on Fri, 05 January 2018, 13:25:53
Any idea when this will run?
Im in the USA and would LOVE LOVE LOVE this set.
Soon, very soon afaik at kono.store
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 05 January 2018, 14:43:13
Any idea when this will run?
Im in the USA and would LOVE LOVE LOVE this set.

It should be up by next week. If everything goes well.
My part of job is done, it is now in the hands of the vendors.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 05 January 2018, 14:47:14
I wonder if there would be enough people interested to run a separate GB kit with just a R2 and R3 novelty to allow them to be used as the right strip on 65/75% boards.

Based on the watster GB, I think 2 keys would only be like $5. Maybe do both colors since once the legends are done it shouldn't be so expensive which would be around $10 a kit.

I guess probably would still need a lot of people who would buy more than 1 set to actually hit moq, unless camping sells REALLY well.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 05 January 2018, 14:53:01
I wonder if there would be enough people interested to run a separate GB kit with just a R2 and R3 novelty to allow them to be used as the right strip on 65/75% boards.

Based on the watster GB, I think 2 keys would only be like $5. Maybe do both colors since once the legends are done it shouldn't be so expensive which would be around $10 a kit.

I guess probably would still need a lot of people who would buy more than 1 set to actually hit moq, unless camping sells REALLY well.

I think once the tooling cost for novelty keys is paid. Running a set novelty keys with different rows should be considered as normal keys starting from 150 MOQ or even 100 MOQ.

Also for custom colors, the spacebar kit is starting from a normal MOQ tier rather than custom color MOQ tier.

you can start collecting interest, I'll be more than happy to approve the use of those toolings for the Camping novelty keys.  :)
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: strigif0rm3s on Fri, 05 January 2018, 14:58:00
Any idea when this will run?
Im in the USA and would LOVE LOVE LOVE this set.

It should be up by next week. If everything goes well.
My part of job is done, it is now in the hands of the vendors.
I assume they are aware how good these would sell? I will maybe buy 2 full sets myself. This is one of my favorite sets ever.

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: strigif0rm3s on Fri, 05 January 2018, 15:00:34
Any idea when this will run?
Im in the USA and would LOVE LOVE LOVE this set.
Soon, very soon afaik at kono.store
Soooo excited

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Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 05 January 2018, 15:01:49
I wonder if there would be enough people interested to run a separate GB kit with just a R2 and R3 novelty to allow them to be used as the right strip on 65/75% boards.

Based on the watster GB, I think 2 keys would only be like $5. Maybe do both colors since once the legends are done it shouldn't be so expensive which would be around $10 a kit.

I guess probably would still need a lot of people who would buy more than 1 set to actually hit moq, unless camping sells REALLY well.

I think once the tooling cost for novelty keys is paid. Running a set novelty keys with different rows should be considered as normal keys starting from 150 MOQ or even 100 MOQ.

you can start collecting interest, I'll be more than happy to approve the use of those toolings for the Camping novelty keys.  :)

Do the legend plates work for other profiles? I wasn't sure if I would need new legend plates for the other rows or if they could reuse them as that would drop the price a decent bit i'd think. If it was just 100moq, that wouldn't be that bad. Just need like 20-30 ppl who would spend like $25. I guess it really depends how well GMK Camping sells overall.

Either way, I can totally do an IC if people are interested. I wanna run a full GMK set myself eventually, so a tiny novelty kit shouldn't be too bad.

Also, looking at the kit again, I think if it was gonna be maroon, I'd also need to add another R4 novelty. I'll have to play around with some options and see what works best.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 05 January 2018, 15:04:06
You could only run with 100 units as long as it would be scheduled with the production of the main set. Once you start a new production you are back to 250 units due to custom colors.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Fri, 05 January 2018, 15:06:31
I wonder if there would be enough people interested to run a separate GB kit with just a R2 and R3 novelty to allow them to be used as the right strip on 65/75% boards.

Based on the watster GB, I think 2 keys would only be like $5. Maybe do both colors since once the legends are done it shouldn't be so expensive which would be around $10 a kit.

I guess probably would still need a lot of people who would buy more than 1 set to actually hit moq, unless camping sells REALLY well.

I think once the tooling cost for novelty keys is paid. Running a set novelty keys with different rows should be considered as normal keys starting from 150 MOQ or even 100 MOQ.

you can start collecting interest, I'll be more than happy to approve the use of those toolings for the Camping novelty keys.  :)

Do the legend plates work for other profiles? I wasn't sure if I would need new legend plates for the other rows or if they could reuse them as that would drop the price a decent bit i'd think. If it was just 100moq, that wouldn't be that bad. Just need like 20-30 ppl who would spend like $25. I guess it really depends how well GMK Camping sells overall.

Either way, I can totally do an IC if people are interested. I wanna run a full GMK set myself eventually, so a tiny novelty kit shouldn't be too bad.

Also, looking at the kit again, I think if it was gonna be maroon, I'd also need to add another R4 novelty. I'll have to play around with some options and see what works best.

I think Camping will do well, as we have proxies cover all around the world, 350 ppl are on the kono watchlist alone.
The tooling should be the same for novelty keys with different row profile.
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: J4BR0NI on Sat, 06 January 2018, 03:15:48
The more burgundy in the set the better! So it looks like I'm in for at least 1 set with the spacebar kit, and seriously considering grabbing a second.
Title: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: typischt on Sun, 07 January 2018, 10:59:39
FYI: GB live on Kono store from input club!
NVM, EU Proxy is mykeyboard.eu!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: BlackInk on Sun, 07 January 2018, 11:39:59
Will there be a price drop for higher moq?
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: nu_types on Sun, 07 January 2018, 11:54:08
Will there be a price drop for higher moq?

On the store page it states that if enough people join it will drop $10 for the base set and $5 for the spacebars. They don't specify how many sets it takes though...
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: Blackhawk on Sun, 07 January 2018, 12:01:42
Will there be a price drop for higher moq?

On the store page it states that if enough people join it will drop $10 for the base set and $5 for the spacebars. They don't specify how many sets it takes though...

500 according to a post on reddit

and 250 for spacebars
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 07 January 2018, 12:38:30
As a lot of you are aware of, the GB is live for US/EU/KR

I'm still waiting zf to launch the buy, then I'll post a GB thread with more general details about the buy.

Good luck and have fun!

Thank you all for your help during this project! I really appreciate it!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Mon, 08 January 2018, 03:55:25
I liked the colors of the first renders so I edited one of them to show maroon novelties: https://imgur.com/a/ir5bO

Looks mighty fine!
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: iHateKnives on Mon, 08 January 2018, 07:11:08
As a lot of you are aware of, the GB is live for US/EU/KR

I'm still waiting zf to launch the buy, then I'll post a GB thread with more general details about the buy.

Good luck and have fun!

Thank you all for your help during this project! I really appreciate it!

Will zFrontier put it on their english site as well? It's up in their chinese site
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 08 January 2018, 07:18:36
As a lot of you are aware of, the GB is live for US/EU/KR

I'm still waiting zf to launch the buy, then I'll post a GB thread with more general details about the buy.

Good luck and have fun!

Thank you all for your help during this project! I really appreciate it!

Will zFrontier put it on their english site as well? It's up in their chinese site

I suppose so, since they are meant to cover Southeast Asia as well
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: quantan267 on Mon, 08 January 2018, 09:01:58
I liked the colors of the first renders so I edited one of them to show maroon novelties: https://imgur.com/a/ir5bO

Looks mighty fine!

Can u do it with 1800 layout (silver/ gray case)  :p would be appreciated :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC]GMK Camping (01/01/2018 kit design revised)
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 08 January 2018, 09:36:40
GB is LIVE!

I'm locking this IC thread

Please move the discussion to the GB thread:https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93441.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93441.0)

Thank you all!