[IC] "The Matrix" GMK keycap set

[Mothore]

I love this theme. We all need more Matrix in our lives.

[Special K]

I love this theme. We all need more Matrix in our lives.

Then everyone who is interested keep bumping this thread with ideas so more people see it!

[Geekmie]

This looks great. But I don't quite like the "blue pill" and "red pill" text on keycaps. It would be nice to just use pill icon and put them on just the bottom row with any modifier key.

[Special K]

Random bump to see if there is any additional interest.

[dubious]

may i suggest this?

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I think we have a winner...

Just add symbol legend mods and you can have my first unborn child  )

[Mr Mulch]

Would love to see this set be realized.

[00zeRO]

I love this theme. We all need more Matrix in our lives.

I think this set might have a better chance if done in DSA, but that is just me.

[Data]

I love this theme. We all need more Matrix in our lives.

I think this set might have a better chance if done in DSA, but that is just me.

This matches the screen-used props.  The guys at DT already did some detectiving -- it's an Apple Powerbook keyboard.  Profile is flat.



I'm not sure if DSA is doing the set any favors from a group buy standpoint, but it's something to consider anyway.

[00zeRO]

I love this theme. We all need more Matrix in our lives.

I think this set might have a better chance if done in DSA, but that is just me.

This matches the screen-used props.  The guys at DT already did some detectiving -- it's an Apple Powerbook keyboard.  Profile is flat.

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I'm not sure if DSA is doing the set any favors from a group buy standpoint, but it's something to consider anyway.

Wonderful. I think DSA would need a new set soon anyways since it has not been shown much DoubleShot ABS love lately. What, with all the SA hype of late...

[Data]

I love this theme. We all need more Matrix in our lives.

I think this set might have a better chance if done in DSA, but that is just me.

This matches the screen-used props.  The guys at DT already did some detectiving -- it's an Apple Powerbook keyboard.  Profile is flat.

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I'm not sure if DSA is doing the set any favors from a group buy standpoint, but it's something to consider anyway.

Wonderful. I think DSA would need a new set soon anyways since it has not been shown much DoubleShot ABS love lately. What, with all the SA hype of late...

MiTo is planning another big DSA set that's rumored to run on Massdrop either this month or next, so I think that might fill the niche for the near term.  It's called Overcast and has a bunch of bold primary colors.  Should be decent -- and it's not at all similar to what we're talking about in here.

[sambarugh]

Yeah the design of this set is not worth the time or money. It doesn't look good at all and I would only be interested if the sub's were removed and the keys were made by GMK. Just because it references the Matrix doesn't make it good by default. Probably best to leave this one on the cutting room floor.

[Data]

Yeah the design of this set is not worth the time or money. It doesn't look good at all and I would only be interested if the sub's were removed and the keys were made by GMK. Just because it references the Matrix doesn't make it good by default. Probably best to leave this one on the cutting room floor.

Your (lack of) interest is noted.

[chuckdee]

Interested.

[SamFlynn]

Yeah the design of this set is not worth the time or money. It doesn't look good at all and I would only be interested if the sub's were removed and the keys were made by GMK. Just because it references the Matrix doesn't make it good by default. Probably best to leave this one on the cutting room floor.

Your (lack of) interest is noted.

Who invited this guy to drop a big fat thread-crapping turd right here?

Hey, sambarugh, just because you have an account it doesn't mean you need to post any and all opinions in interest checks. If you aren't interested, just keep lurking, dude.

[Special K]

Yeah the design of this set is not worth the time or money. It doesn't look good at all and I would only be interested if the sub's were removed and the keys were made by GMK. Just because it references the Matrix doesn't make it good by default. Probably best to leave this one on the cutting room floor.

What do you mean "if the sub's were removed"?  Also the original plan was to have this one made by GMK.

Yeah the design of this set is not worth the time or money. It doesn't look good at all and I would only be interested if the sub's were removed and the keys were made by GMK. Just because it references the Matrix doesn't make it good by default. Probably best to leave this one on the cutting room floor.

What do you mean "if the sub's were removed"?  Also the original plan was to have these made by GMK.

[sambarugh]

What do you mean "if the sub's were removed"?  Also the original plan was to have these made by GMK.

The sub legends, they're ugly

[Data]

I think he means the kanji.

sambarugh, you might want to familiarize yourself with the forum rules here and (subsequently) here.

This subsection might be particularly useful to you:

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2) Threadcrapping: If you aren't interested in joining a group buy, STAY OUT OF THE GROUP BUY THREAD. This goes doubly so if you disagree with the way the buy is being run, the product being purchased, or have any other complaint not relevant to buying into the group buy. Repeat offenders put themselves in danger of moderator action.

 

[sambarugh]

I think he means the kanji.

sambarugh, you might want to familiarize yourself with the forum rules here and (subsequently) here.

This subsection might be particularly useful to you:

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2) Threadcrapping: If you aren't interested in joining a group buy, STAY OUT OF THE GROUP BUY THREAD. This goes doubly so if you disagree with the way the buy is being run, the product being purchased, or have any other complaint not relevant to buying into the group buy. Repeat offenders put themselves in danger of moderator action.

 

This is an IC thread, not a GB thread. Rekt, GG, git gud.

[SamFlynn]

I think he means the kanji.

sambarugh, you might want to familiarize yourself with the forum rules here and (subsequently) here.

This subsection might be particularly useful to you:

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2) Threadcrapping: If you aren't interested in joining a group buy, STAY OUT OF THE GROUP BUY THREAD. This goes doubly so if you disagree with the way the buy is being run, the product being purchased, or have any other complaint not relevant to buying into the group buy. Repeat offenders put themselves in danger of moderator action.

 

This is an IC thread, not a GB thread. Rekt, GG, git gud.

Data -
Trolls don't have etiquette as part of their demeanor/behavior. If they did, they would cease to be trolls.

sambarugh -
Thanks for your participation, we just wish you had a little more tact...but you can't always get what you want. 

[Data]

Data -
Trolls don't have etiquette as part of their demeanor/behavior. If they did, they would cease to be trolls.

Oh, I know.  Everything is playing out precisely as I planned.

[infiniti]

Just a reminder to play nice and to please provide feedback in a constructive manner.

[shower_king]

i am fond of lay-out concerning green and appreciate your idea on this lay-out,
MOZ 's Royal Type Writer have perfect arrangement in light green and dark green and both GREENs matches ratherwell but barely get through GB. Perhaps one point is that many people would not like the feelings on touching and typing on keycaps's surface with sub.the feel typing on key with sub is more vicious or just like that and less cleanly and gentleness than normal GMK's. it is undoubtly that the double-shot keys with sub have more possibility and more beautiful . As for a set of GMK up to 100+ USdollors or even more, i think many people would prefer practicability to beauty.
AS FOR ME, i don't hate sub on key's surface ,i just prefer key without it to ones with it. i also respect minority's likes. i think minority would like type on sub, but GMK' s MOQ , decreasing from 250 to 150,  is rather high in comparison with SP's.
now turn to the topic , my suggestion on this whether we could make the sub on the keycap's side surface not top surface. this could retain your good idea on arranging these different but lovely colors and don't affect the feel for using the good GMK's keys

[Special K]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to give a quick update and hopefully solicit some feedback from the GH community.  Over the past few weeks I've been doing some research into how to market this set better and one thing I thought would really help would be to pay for some 3D renders by some of the talented graphic designers we have here.

Just as I was about to pull the trigger, I noticed a new IC, GMK Terminal, that appears to be very similar to mine.  While I think the set looks great and appears to have significantly more organization behind it (i.e. an actual company) than mine,  it has left me wondering if I should continue to pursue this.  I will note that the differences between mine and theirs are as follows:

1. N7 instead of AE (or maybe a custom green color?  It would be whatever shade of green they use for the characters in the movie)
2. CR instead of N9
3. Different mod keys that are colored green
4. Matrix-themed novelty keys
5. Kanji characters (unlikely given the cost)

Are the differences above enough to distinguish this set from Terminal?  Is there anything else I could do to stand out?  I'm not trying to present this as a competition or anything, but the fact is that people's keycap budgets are limited and therefore only so many sets will reach MOQ.  That said, I only see a few possibilities:

1. Drop the idea completely
2. Wait some time after Terminal drops, then try to launch it (there are always people who miss out on drops for various reasons who might be interested later)
3. Keep pushing to market this set and see if it launches whenever

Thoughts?

[Vigrith]

This came round when I wasn't really paying attention to much relating to keyboards so first I'm hearing/seeing of it,

As someone who already owns Midnight (and will be owning Toxic shortly) I'm not particularly in need of more green/black but the Katakana legends make the set for me - if those are included I'd say it is definitely different enough from both Midnight as well as Terminal_, plus it then has a very defined theme that would make it stand out. Then again if you do go with the Katakana (I don't know whether or not you are willing to adopt the style, as I see the concept/renders were provided by another user) it may become too niche and may lack interest. I'd imagine you could theoretically still get a nice buy going regardless provided things are handled well but still, these alternate legends tend to always have a hard time compared to just straight Latin.

For what it's worth, if the set came out tomorrow with the exact look of the render you have in the OP, I would buy it - even as someone who is just a fan of the Matrix, not a fanatic.

[mbljs5555]

Interesting how this keyset doesn't really remind me of the GMK Terminal... looks different and maybe it's because of the font but definitely evokes the Matrix feels!

[xondat]

Interesting how this keyset doesn't really remind me of the GMK Terminal... looks different and maybe it's because of the font but definitely evokes the Matrix feels!

Why are you bumping threads that are obviously not being worked on anymore?

[amnesia0287]

Interesting how this keyset doesn't really remind me of the GMK Terminal... looks different and maybe it's because of the font but definitely evokes the Matrix feels!

Why are you bumping threads that are obviously not being worked on anymore?

To be fair, with laser, this set is far more viable now. All the molds will exist already. You best believe people are gonna start making more Japanese sets.

[Special K]

I would still like to pursue this someday, but now that GMK Terminal is doing a round 2, I'm not sure this is different enough to capture people's attention.

[dimo]

I would still like to pursue this someday, but now that GMK Terminal is doing a round 2, I'm not sure this is different enough to capture people's attention.

It's not different enough. The red/blue pills don't match the set at all. The colors imo look worse than Terminal too-- maybe it's just the awful renders from early community days.

Terminal completely encapsulated what the theme of this set was, and it turned out great

[Giorgio]

There's no point in trying to be different if you have no compelling reason to do so.
A black and green set, with standard colours, Japanese sublegends and some matrix styled keys can call itself GMK matrix.

[dimo]

Why are there even japanese sublegends?? If it's supposed to be following a theme of the "matrix"-- the creative choices seem random.

[Giorgio]

Why are there even japanese sublegends?? If it's supposed to be following a theme of the "matrix"-- the creative choices seem random.

No.

"The code used in the introduction to all three movies is actually text characters scanned from Japanese cookbooks.[3] Its creator, Simon Whiteley, was never credited.[4]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_digital_rain

[Special K]

I would still like to pursue this someday, but now that GMK Terminal is doing a round 2, I'm not sure this is different enough to capture people's attention.

It's not different enough. The red/blue pills don't match the set at all. The colors imo look worse than Terminal too-- maybe it's just the awful renders from early community days.

Terminal completely encapsulated what the theme of this set was, and it turned out great

Additionally this set would use CR instead of N9 for the keycaps.  I own GMK Terminal and personally think the keycaps look closer to gray than black.  I realize that was done for compatibility purposes with other sets, but if I was building GMK Matrix from the ground up I would choose CR for a "true" black.

My next step is to get some higher quality renders.  I realize the ones posted in the OP aren't as high quality as the ones used in other sets (no offense to the artist intended).

[dimo]

I would still like to pursue this someday, but now that GMK Terminal is doing a round 2, I'm not sure this is different enough to capture people's attention.

It's not different enough. The red/blue pills don't match the set at all. The colors imo look worse than Terminal too-- maybe it's just the awful renders from early community days.

Terminal completely encapsulated what the theme of this set was, and it turned out great

Additionally this set would use CR instead of N9 for the keycaps.  I own GMK Terminal and personally think the keycaps look closer to gray than black.  I realize that was done for compatibility purposes with other sets, but if I was building GMK Matrix from the ground up I would choose CR for a "true" black.

My next step is to get some higher quality renders.  I realize the ones posted in the OP aren't as high quality as the ones used in other sets.

agree with everything. This should be wiped and started from a clean slate into a fully rendered IC if interest is intended to be gathered.

[chuckdee]

I would still like to pursue this someday, but now that GMK Terminal is doing a round 2, I'm not sure this is different enough to capture people's attention.

It's not different enough. The red/blue pills don't match the set at all. The colors imo look worse than Terminal too-- maybe it's just the awful renders from early community days.

Terminal completely encapsulated what the theme of this set was, and it turned out great

Additionally this set would use CR instead of N9 for the keycaps.  I own GMK Terminal and personally think the keycaps look closer to gray than black.  I realize that was done for compatibility purposes with other sets, but if I was building GMK Matrix from the ground up I would choose CR for a "true" black.

My next step is to get some higher quality renders.  I realize the ones posted in the OP aren't as high quality as the ones used in other sets.

I actually like this better than terminal, and think it's different enough to succeed on its own.

[pvd]

Why are there even japanese sublegends?? If it's supposed to be following a theme of the "matrix"-- the creative choices seem random.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_digital_rain


The "digital rain" in the matrix is mostly a mix of katakana and latin alphabet. I hope OP is still considering katakana sublegends, now that gmk sublegends are a thing. I think it would look very cool.

[dimo]

Why are there even japanese sublegends?? If it's supposed to be following a theme of the "matrix"-- the creative choices seem random.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_digital_rain


The "digital rain" in the matrix is mostly a mix of katakana and latin alphabet. I hope OP is still considering katakana sublegends, now that gmk sublegends are a thing. I think it would look very cool.

yeah I got it. It’s been a while

[Special K]

Why are there even japanese sublegends?? If it's supposed to be following a theme of the "matrix"-- the creative choices seem random.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_digital_rain


The "digital rain" in the matrix is mostly a mix of katakana and latin alphabet. I hope OP is still considering katakana sublegends, now that gmk sublegends are a thing. I think it would look very cool.

Now that GMK Laser exists, the molds exist and should be usable by any future sets, correct?  If so, I would use them as others have suggested.

[pvd]

Why are there even japanese sublegends?? If it's supposed to be following a theme of the "matrix"-- the creative choices seem random.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_digital_rain


The "digital rain" in the matrix is mostly a mix of katakana and latin alphabet. I hope OP is still considering katakana sublegends, now that gmk sublegends are a thing. I think it would look very cool.

Now that GMK Laser exists, the molds exist and should be usable by any future sets, correct?  If so, I would use them as others have suggested.

The GMK laser molds are hiragana characters, while the characters in your render in your render are katakana. I think katakana sublegends would look much cooler on this set and would be more true to the digital rain of the matrix (though I don't know anything at all about Japanese, I'm in it strictly for the aesthetics  ). If the sublegends are part of the default kit, it would stand a pretty good chance of making MOQ I think, which of course is always the issue.

[Special K]

Why are there even japanese sublegends?? If it's supposed to be following a theme of the "matrix"-- the creative choices seem random.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_digital_rain


The "digital rain" in the matrix is mostly a mix of katakana and latin alphabet. I hope OP is still considering katakana sublegends, now that gmk sublegends are a thing. I think it would look very cool.

Now that GMK Laser exists, the molds exist and should be usable by any future sets, correct?  If so, I would use them as others have suggested.

The GMK laser molds are hiragana characters, while the characters in your render in your render are katakana. I think katakana sublegends would look much cooler on this set and would be more true to the digital rain of the matrix (though I don't know anything at all about Japanese, I'm in it strictly for the aesthetics  ). If the sublegends are part of the default kit, it would stand a pretty good chance of making MOQ I think, which of course is always the issue.

How do we map katakana characters as secondary legends to the alphabetical characters?  Does anyone following this thread speak/read Japanese?  I also need this information to give to the artist who will be creating the renders.

Finally, if the katakana character set is different from the hiragana characters used for GMK Laser, then this IC is kind of back at square one with respect to needing to factor in the cost of custom molds for most of the keys, which is what turned people off the first time (see earlier pages for the debate).

[Ohjay]

How do we map katakana characters as secondary legends to the alphabetical characters?  Does anyone following this thread speak/read Japanese?  I also need this information to give to the artist who will be creating the renders.

The characters for Hiragana and Katakana represent the same set of syllables, so mapping is easy since it's just to interchange one character for the other.
See this table for a reference where the top character is Hiragana, middle is Katakana, and the third is the syllable representation in roman letters (credit to: cyborgsmurf.wordpress.com)

(Sidenote: I don't think keysets generally use the g*, z*, d*, b*, p* syllables so they can be disregarded. Same with everything to the right of ya, yu, yo)

And for those that do not know, but are curious as to why there are two character sets for the same syllables...
Hiragana is used for domestic words.
Katakana is used for words loaned from other languages (mainly english).

[Giorgio]

How do we map katakana characters as secondary legends to the alphabetical characters?  Does anyone following this thread speak/read Japanese?  I also need this information to give to the artist who will be creating the renders.

The characters for Hiragana and Katakana represent the same set of syllables, so mapping is easy since it's just to interchange one character for the other.
See this table for a reference where the top character is Hiragana, middle is Katakana, and the third is the syllable representation in roman letters (credit to: cyborgsmurf.wordpress.com)

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(Sidenote: I don't think keysets generally use the g*, z*, d*, b*, p* syllables so they can be disregarded. Same with everything to the right of ya, yu, yo)

And for those that do not know, but are curious as to why there are two character sets for the same syllables...
Hiragana is used for domestic words.
Katakana is used for words loaned from other languages (mainly english).

That's confusing as ****. Why don't we simply replicate what other GMK sets used the most?

[pvd]

Why are there even japanese sublegends?? If it's supposed to be following a theme of the "matrix"-- the creative choices seem random.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_digital_rain


The "digital rain" in the matrix is mostly a mix of katakana and latin alphabet. I hope OP is still considering katakana sublegends, now that gmk sublegends are a thing. I think it would look very cool.

Now that GMK Laser exists, the molds exist and should be usable by any future sets, correct?  If so, I would use them as others have suggested.

The GMK laser molds are hiragana characters, while the characters in your render in your render are katakana. I think katakana sublegends would look much cooler on this set and would be more true to the digital rain of the matrix (though I don't know anything at all about Japanese, I'm in it strictly for the aesthetics  ). If the sublegends are part of the default kit, it would stand a pretty good chance of making MOQ I think, which of course is always the issue.

How do we map katakana characters as secondary legends to the alphabetical characters?  Does anyone following this thread speak/read Japanese?  I also need this information to give to the artist who will be creating the renders.

Finally, if the katakana character set is different from the hiragana characters used for GMK Laser, then this IC is kind of back at square one with respect to needing to factor in the cost of custom molds for most of the keys, which is what turned people off the first time (see earlier pages for the debate).

The first few pages of this IC are from 2016, right? That was back when GMK custom legends were unthinkable. Since then we've had GMK Laser, which had two sets of completely custom molds for the hiragana sublegends and hiragana monolegends, GMK Burgundy, which has hangul sublegends, and we will soon have GMK space cadet, which has fancy math sublegends. The appetite for custom sublegends absolutely exists now.

How do we map katakana characters as secondary legends to the alphabetical characters?  Does anyone following this thread speak/read Japanese?  I also need this information to give to the artist who will be creating the renders.

The characters for Hiragana and Katakana represent the same set of syllables, so mapping is easy since it's just to interchange one character for the other.
See this table for a reference where the top character is Hiragana, middle is Katakana, and the third is the syllable representation in roman letters (credit to: cyborgsmurf.wordpress.com)

Show Image

(Sidenote: I don't think keysets generally use the g*, z*, d*, b*, p* syllables so they can be disregarded. Same with everything to the right of ya, yu, yo)

And for those that do not know, but are curious as to why there are two character sets for the same syllables...
Hiragana is used for domestic words.
Katakana is used for words loaned from other languages (mainly english).

That's confusing as ****. Why don't we simply replicate what other GMK sets used the most?

Just look at the front page of the thread.  :p The render there is katakana sublegends. No need to think further about it.

[Ohjay]

Just look at the front page of the thread.  The render there is katakana sublegends. No need to think further about it.

Haha, serves me right for not reading the entire thread

[pvd]

Just look at the front page of the thread.  The render there is katakana sublegends. No need to think further about it.

Haha, serves me right for not reading the entire thread

Nothing wrong with dropping some knowledge.  )

[Special K]

Why are there even japanese sublegends?? If it's supposed to be following a theme of the "matrix"-- the creative choices seem random.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_digital_rain


The "digital rain" in the matrix is mostly a mix of katakana and latin alphabet. I hope OP is still considering katakana sublegends, now that gmk sublegends are a thing. I think it would look very cool.

Now that GMK Laser exists, the molds exist and should be usable by any future sets, correct?  If so, I would use them as others have suggested.

The GMK laser molds are hiragana characters, while the characters in your render in your render are katakana. I think katakana sublegends would look much cooler on this set and would be more true to the digital rain of the matrix (though I don't know anything at all about Japanese, I'm in it strictly for the aesthetics  ). If the sublegends are part of the default kit, it would stand a pretty good chance of making MOQ I think, which of course is always the issue.

How do we map katakana characters as secondary legends to the alphabetical characters?  Does anyone following this thread speak/read Japanese?  I also need this information to give to the artist who will be creating the renders.

Finally, if the katakana character set is different from the hiragana characters used for GMK Laser, then this IC is kind of back at square one with respect to needing to factor in the cost of custom molds for most of the keys, which is what turned people off the first time (see earlier pages for the debate).

The first few pages of this IC are from 2016, right? That was back when GMK custom legends were unthinkable. Since then we've had GMK Laser, which had two sets of completely custom molds for the hiragana sublegends and hiragana monolegends, GMK Burgundy, which has hangul sublegends, and we will soon have GMK space cadet, which has fancy math sublegends. The appetite for custom sublegends absolutely exists now.

Wow, I haven't been keeping up with recent sets.  GMK Burgundy does something very similar to this set with its 2x secondary legends on some keys.

How do we map katakana characters as secondary legends to the alphabetical characters?  Does anyone following this thread speak/read Japanese?  I also need this information to give to the artist who will be creating the renders.

The characters for Hiragana and Katakana represent the same set of syllables, so mapping is easy since it's just to interchange one character for the other.
See this table for a reference where the top character is Hiragana, middle is Katakana, and the third is the syllable representation in roman letters (credit to: cyborgsmurf.wordpress.com)

Show Image

(Sidenote: I don't think keysets generally use the g*, z*, d*, b*, p* syllables so they can be disregarded. Same with everything to the right of ya, yu, yo)

And for those that do not know, but are curious as to why there are two character sets for the same syllables...
Hiragana is used for domestic words.
Katakana is used for words loaned from other languages (mainly english).

That's confusing as ****. Why don't we simply replicate what other GMK sets used the most?

Just look at the front page of the thread.  :p The render there is katakana sublegends. No need to think further about it.

So you don't think anyone will care how the mapping is done?  Do the Hangul characters in GMK Burgundy match up to the alpha characters they are paired with?

[chuckdee]

So you don't think anyone will care how the mapping is done?  Do the Hangul characters in GMK Burgundy match up to the alpha characters they are paired with?

Hangul?  I thought we were talking Katakana vs Hiragana...

[pvd]

So you don't think anyone will care how the mapping is done?  Do the Hangul characters in GMK Burgundy match up to the alpha characters they are paired with?

It is entirely possible that some people will care about how the mapping is done. I don't, but I suppose if something is going to be done it should be done right. From a super cursory cross reference of the render on the front page vs the table supplied by Ohjay vs the gmk laser sublegends, the render on the front page does have correct mapping.

So you don't think anyone will care how the mapping is done?  Do the Hangul characters in GMK Burgundy match up to the alpha characters they are paired with?

Hangul?  I thought we were talking Katakana vs Hiragana...

Since we're talking about gmk burgundy's hangul kit... gmk matrix could be run as an alphas-only katakana sublegends AE on N9 kit. Then people could pair it with GMK terminal if they felt so inclined. That might be a bad idea though, considering how burgundy's hangul kit only made it to MOQ with vendor help.

[Special K]

So you don't think anyone will care how the mapping is done?  Do the Hangul characters in GMK Burgundy match up to the alpha characters they are paired with?

Hangul?  I thought we were talking Katakana vs Hiragana...

I was just using GMK Burgundy, which uses Hangul, as an example of another set that used a different character set as secondary legends.

[chuckdee]

So you don't think anyone will care how the mapping is done?  Do the Hangul characters in GMK Burgundy match up to the alpha characters they are paired with?

Hangul?  I thought we were talking Katakana vs Hiragana...

I was just using GMK Burgundy, which uses Hangul, as an example of another set that used a different character set as secondary legends.

Kobe on GMK Oasis might be a better comparison then, even though that sets are Hiragana.