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Offline hwood34

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #400 on: Thu, 22 January 2015, 18:32:47 »
1. I hate full sized keyboards! (Even though I have a Filco 100% xD)

4. I hate LED's on keyboards unless they are white or very subtle.

5. I hate corsairs, razors, thermaltake, and any other company that overdoes branding.

6. I hate dolch keycaps (Nahhhh, I'm kidding, I love them!)

7. I LOVE purple FMJ Poker cases!
all pretty popular or at least moderately shared

8. I hate Topres! (feel like rubber domes to me)
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #401 on: Thu, 22 January 2015, 18:57:11 »
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Aren't those incompatible with his converter? I just remember thinking I would do the same and he said that it wouldn't work

Did a quick search and yep, you're right about that. My bad. I could have sworn I had seen the Bigfoot XT on a compatibility list for the xwhatsit, but the controller design is integrated in the same way as the regular XT, unfortunately. Apparently you can do Soarer's converter, however.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #402 on: Thu, 22 January 2015, 19:21:22 »
1. I hate full sized keyboards! (Even though I have a Filco 100% xD)

4. I hate LED's on keyboards unless they are white or very subtle.

5. I hate corsairs, razors, thermaltake, and any other company that overdoes branding.

6. I hate dolch keycaps (Nahhhh, I'm kidding, I love them!)

7. I LOVE purple FMJ Poker cases!
all pretty popular or at least moderately shared

8. I hate Topres! (feel like rubber domes to me)
they are

Woah #4 really? I'm a bit surprised.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #403 on: Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:09:20 »
Quote from: blazarcher
4. I hate LED's on keyboards unless they are white or very subtle.
Quote from: hwood34
all pretty popular or at least moderately shared
Quote from: blazarcher
Woah #4 really? I'm a bit surprised.
I’d even say many or even most people hate keyboard backlighting. I personally always turn it off on Apple laptops, and wouldn’t consider buying a keyboard with backlighting unless I planned to remove all the LEDs and replace the keycaps.

I think caps lock and num lock are stupid concepts which should have been retired 20 years ago.

I suspect there might be compelling use cases for a display on a keyboard, but I can’t think of any off-hand.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #404 on: Thu, 22 January 2015, 20:21:19 »
Quote from: blazarcher
4. I hate LED's on keyboards unless they are white or very subtle.
Quote from: hwood34
all pretty popular or at least moderately shared
Quote from: blazarcher
Woah #4 really? I'm a bit surprised.
I’d even say many or even most people hate keyboard backlighting. I personally always turn it off on Apple laptops, and wouldn’t consider buying a keyboard with backlighting unless I planned to remove all the LEDs and replace the keycaps.

I think caps lock and num lock are stupid concepts which should have been retired 20 years ago.

I suspect there might be compelling use cases for a display on a keyboard, but I can’t think of any off-hand.

I think it's quite surprising considering all the RGB LED keyboards that are out now. I mean just look at Corsair and Razor!
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #405 on: Thu, 26 March 2015, 09:51:17 »
I buy and sell keycaps all the time! It just depends how worn they are. I bought a pretty worn set of OG desko and theyre still really nice. Most of my SP stuff is so lightly used you probably couldn't tell. That's the upside to having so many damn sets.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #406 on: Thu, 26 March 2015, 11:01:34 »
Quote from: blazarcher
4. I hate LED's on keyboards unless they are white or very subtle.
Quote from: hwood34
all pretty popular or at least moderately shared
Quote from: blazarcher
Woah #4 really? I'm a bit surprised.
I’d even say many or even most people hate keyboard backlighting. I personally always turn it off on Apple laptops, and wouldn’t consider buying a keyboard with backlighting unless I planned to remove all the LEDs and replace the keycaps.

I think caps lock and num lock are stupid concepts which should have been retired 20 years ago.

I suspect there might be compelling use cases for a display on a keyboard, but I can’t think of any off-hand.

I think it's quite surprising considering all the RGB LED keyboards that are out now. I mean just look at Corsair and Razor!
I mean, for your average person the RGB backlighting might seem appealing, but to enthusiasts it's just gaudy
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #407 on: Thu, 26 March 2015, 11:21:15 »
Unpopular opinion:

DSA sucks big hairy Bronads. Flat keycap profiles can burn.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #408 on: Thu, 26 March 2015, 11:27:03 »
It's not that unpopular.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #409 on: Thu, 26 March 2015, 11:42:00 »
It's not that unpopular.
I'd even go so far as to say that's a pretty popular opinion
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #410 on: Thu, 26 March 2015, 11:46:19 »
It's not that unpopular.
I'd even go so far as to say that's a pretty popular opinion

Every profile has it's fans and it's detractors. DSA has a strong crowd of support and an equally strong crowd of dislike. Rinse and repeat for SA.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #411 on: Thu, 26 March 2015, 14:32:27 »
NVM, too hard to communicate humor through a computer.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #412 on: Thu, 26 March 2015, 16:03:05 »
Fujitsu Leaf Spring switches aren't bad feeling.  They're not amazing, but better than many stock  MX switches, namely Blues and Reds.  They are annoying as hell.  Even so, they're still less annoying than Blues.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #413 on: Thu, 26 March 2015, 17:16:42 »
They're not amazing, but better than [any] stock MX switches [...]
This pretty much describes 90% of mechanical keyswitches out there.

“This keyswitch is better than MX” is pretty much like saying “this world map projection is better than Mercator” or “these headphones are better than Beats” or “this novel is better than Twilight”.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #414 on: Thu, 26 March 2015, 17:40:31 »
Stock Blacks are still nice and I'd take any MX over White or Black Alps.  I'd take most Mx over a Model M. NMB Hi-Tek are nice but have too short of a throw, so it would depend on the day.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #415 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:04:35 »
1. I hate 60% boards, and rarely use my Poker 2. The lack of arrow keys kills me, and I can never be productive or get serious work done on one.

Obviously 60% boards were made for people who spend their life in Vim. Otherwise, they do not make sense.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #416 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:37:06 »
KEYCOOL'S RGB BOARD IS GOING TO BE AMAZING I DONT CARE WHAT ANYBODY ELSE SAYS
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #417 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 10:59:30 »
I think that cherry mx switches are just so unsatisfying when compared to a topre or buckling spring, heck even compared to a gateron switch.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #418 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:07:18 »
1) I hate all cases and any height they add, so I lay the PCB directly on the table.

2) I wish MX Blues were significantly louder with a much lower pitch.

3) Plates are an abomination.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #419 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:08:36 »
1) I hate all cases and any height they add, so I lay the PCB directly on the table.

2) I wish MX Blues were louder.

3) Plates are an abomination.

Don't you even want a piece of ply or something to protect the traces?

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #420 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:13:16 »

1. I hate 60% boards, and rarely use my Poker 2. The lack of arrow keys kills me, and I can never be productive or get serious work done on one.

Obviously 60% boards were made for people who spend their life in Vim. Otherwise, they do not make sense.

People that spend their lives in vim should consider a life upgrade. Just sayin'... I use vim out of necessity and convenience rather than preference. I much prefer a gui based text editor such as notepad++.

In reality 60% boards are great for saving space where it is needed. My preference in layout is ANSI TKL.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #421 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:20:11 »
1) I hate all cases and any height they add, so I lay the PCB directly on the table.
probably the oddest thing I've seen in this thread :))
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #422 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:24:11 »
1) I hate all cases and any height they add, so I lay the PCB directly on the table.
probably the oddest thing I've seen in this thread :))
Yeah, much better to carve the desk for at least 2/3 inches and then fix the PCB bellow desk level. it's so much more ergonomic.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #423 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:24:31 »
1) I hate all cases and any height they add, so I lay the PCB directly on the table.

2) I wish MX Blues were louder.

3) Plates are an abomination.

Don't you even want a piece of ply or something to protect the traces?
I use a massive deskpad that provides cushion and keeps it from sliding.  Carving my desk and setting the keyboard down in it a bit would be better...  but would reduce the options I have for where I set peripherals, and not let me move my board to the side for gaming.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #424 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:30:15 »
I've seen the bare PCB thing. Not my thing, but a few folks' thing.

Wait, we're still talking about keyboard, right?
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #425 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:32:25 »

1. I hate 60% boards, and rarely use my Poker 2. The lack of arrow keys kills me, and I can never be productive or get serious work done on one.

Obviously 60% boards were made for people who spend their life in Vim. Otherwise, they do not make sense.

People that spend their lives in vim should consider a life upgrade. Just sayin'... I use vim out of necessity and convenience rather than preference. I much prefer a gui based text editor such as notepad++.

In reality 60% boards are great for saving space where it is needed. My preference in layout is ANSI TKL.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #426 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 11:34:14 »


1. I hate 60% boards, and rarely use my Poker 2. The lack of arrow keys kills me, and I can never be productive or get serious work done on one.

Obviously 60% boards were made for people who spend their life in Vim. Otherwise, they do not make sense.

People that spend their lives in vim should consider a life upgrade. Just sayin'... I use vim out of necessity and convenience rather than preference. I much prefer a gui based text editor such as notepad++.

In reality 60% boards are great for saving space where it is needed. My preference in layout is ANSI TKL.
GVim, you're welcome.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #427 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 12:22:48 »
Numpads suck when they're on the right side.
People in the 1980s, in general, were clearly just better than we are now in every measurable way.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #428 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 12:23:54 »
2) I wish MX Blues were significantly louder with a much lower pitch.

That sounds like a buckling spring...

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #429 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 12:52:12 »


1. I hate 60% boards, and rarely use my Poker 2. The lack of arrow keys kills me, and I can never be productive or get serious work done on one.

Obviously 60% boards were made for people who spend their life in Vim. Otherwise, they do not make sense.

People that spend their lives in vim should consider a life upgrade. Just sayin'... I use vim out of necessity and convenience rather than preference. I much prefer a gui based text editor such as notepad++.

In reality 60% boards are great for saving space where it is needed. My preference in layout is ANSI TKL.
GVim, you're welcome.

Have you tried notepad++? You're welcome.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #430 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 12:56:27 »
I think caps lock and num lock are stupid concepts which should have been retired 20 years ago.

Caps Lock isn't stupid per se, it's just really stupid to have it in such a valuable position on most keyboards, and it's arguable whether it should have a dedicated key at all. Activating it via a function layer works fine for me.

It's useful if you program in a language that uses caps a lot, like C. I wouldn't particulary want to type this without the aid of a caps lock: https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/keyboard/gh60/Makefile

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #431 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 13:16:36 »
It's useful if you program in a language that uses caps a lot, like C. I wouldn't particulary want to type this without the aid of a caps lock[:
No, it still sucks. What you want is a shortcut which capitalizes either the current word or the selection, and then you type your constant name in lower case and press that shortcut at the end.

Modes are evil. If you really need a mode, at least make sure it requires actively holding a key down, like the shift key. (Put the shifter on a thumb key or a foot pedal if it helps.)

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #432 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 13:26:41 »
It's the other way around. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Evil are modes.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #433 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 14:04:47 »
It's useful if you program in a language that uses caps a lot, like C. I wouldn't particulary want to type this without the aid of a caps lock[:
No, it still sucks. What you want is a shortcut which capitalizes either the current word or the selection, and then you type your constant name in lower case and press that shortcut at the end.

Modes are evil. If you really need a mode, at least make sure it requires actively holding a key down, like the shift key. (Put the shifter on a thumb key or a foot pedal if it helps.)

I still disagree that it sucks. I'm one of the extreme minority of people that capitalize letters by double-tapping Caps lock. Is it inefficient and stupid? Perhaps, but I maintain about 95 WPM, so I don't really see the value in learning the "correct" way to apply Caps.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #434 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 14:20:19 »


1. I hate 60% boards, and rarely use my Poker 2. The lack of arrow keys kills me, and I can never be productive or get serious work done on one.

Obviously 60% boards were made for people who spend their life in Vim. Otherwise, they do not make sense.

People that spend their lives in vim should consider a life upgrade. Just sayin'... I use vim out of necessity and convenience rather than preference. I much prefer a gui based text editor such as notepad++.

In reality 60% boards are great for saving space where it is needed. My preference in layout is ANSI TKL.
GVim, you're welcome.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #435 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 14:28:22 »
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #436 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 14:28:55 »
I still disagree that [caps lock] sucks. I'm one of the extreme minority of people that capitalize letters by double-tapping Caps lock. Is it inefficient and stupid? Perhaps, but I maintain about 95 WPM, so I don't really see the value in learning the "correct" way to apply Caps.
You’d be much better off with a key to capitalize just the immediately following letter.

Or perhaps a key which acts like shift if you hold it down, but capitalizes just the next letter if you quickly press and release it.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #438 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 18:21:09 »
I still disagree that [caps lock] sucks. I'm one of the extreme minority of people that capitalize letters by double-tapping Caps lock. Is it inefficient and stupid? Perhaps, but I maintain about 95 WPM, so I don't really see the value in learning the "correct" way to apply Caps.
You’d be much better off with a key to capitalize just the immediately following letter.

Or perhaps a key which acts like shift if you hold it down, but capitalizes just the next letter if you quickly press and release it.

I guess I'm not following your comment.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #439 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 18:24:08 »
Sticky keys?

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #440 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 19:47:38 »
I guess I'm not following your comment.
The problem with caps lock is that creates a mode, which causes mistakes when you turn it on accidentally or leave it on after you expect. While in the caps lock mode, all the keys on the keyboard behave differently, in a rather arbitrary way. Shift + letter doesn’t always produce the same character as hold caps lock + letter + release caps lock. This is confusing and unnecessary.

The only real advantage to caps lock vs. holding a shift key down is that holding shift gets uncomfortable with some combinations, but with caps lock you can strike the keys one at a time instead of needing to make a chord.

If you mostly use caps lock to capitalize single letters, then you’d be better off with a key (let’s call it ◊) which, when you press it, causes the immediately following key to be treated exactly as if shift was held down.

So pressing ◊ then x makes X, or pressing ◊ then 7 makes &, or ◊ then \ makes |, etc.

If you don’t press another key within a few seconds afterward, you probably want to ignore the ◊ key and let the next key just type a lower-case letter.

Optionally, you could combine this with the shift key, so holding down ◊, pressing a, b, c, then releasing ◊ key would type ABC.

If you want to use caps lock to capitalize long stretches of text, and don’t like holding down shift or repeatedly pressing a ◊-like key, you’d be better off typing the text in lower case and then at the end invoking some command which capitalizes the whole word, line, or selection. Exactly what keystroke should invoke that command, how it should work, etc. depends on your personal preferences, and what kind of keystrokes you use for other navigation and selection commands. Basically all text editors currently have ****ty default setups for all of these basic functions, so I recommend customizing something to suit your own personal preferences.
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Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #441 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 19:51:52 »
I guess I'm not following your comment.
You want a key (let’s call it ◊) which, when you press it, causes the immediately following key to be treated as if shift is held down.

So pressing ◊ then x makes X, or pressing ◊ then 7 makes &, or ◊ then \ makes |, etc.

If you don’t press another key within a few seconds afterward, you probably want to ignore the ◊ key and let the next key just type a lower-case letter.

Optionally, you could combine this with the shift key, so holding down ◊, pressing a, b, c, then releasing ◊ key would type ABC.

It's a novel idea for sure, but I'm thinking it would be more efficient with traditional shift; can't you type simultaneous keys faster than sequential?
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #442 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 19:52:59 »
HHKBs are overpriced and aren't as great as everyone makes them out to be.  They're not better than a similar keyboard that costs half as much; people just need to find a way to justify such a large amount of money and rationalize it that way.  It's a status symbol.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #443 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 19:53:50 »

HHKBs are overpriced and aren't as great as everyone makes them out to be.  They're not better than a similar keyboard that costs half as much; people just need to find a way to justify such a large amount of money and rationalize it that way.  It's a status symbol.

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #444 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 20:00:04 »
It's a novel idea for sure, but I'm thinking it would be more efficient with traditional shift; can't you type simultaneous keys faster than sequential?

Imagine you want to type a capital X. The idea is you can type any of the following 3 things:
◊ down
x down
x up
◊ up

or:
◊ down
x down
◊ up
x up

or:
◊ down
◊ up
x down
x up

And you get the same result either way, so you don’t really need to worry about it. Using a shift key instead of ◊, that last pattern won’t get you a capital X. If you want to press the keys sequentially you need to use caps lock.
« Last Edit: Fri, 27 March 2015, 20:04:50 by jacobolus »

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #445 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 22:18:18 »
The problem with caps lock is that creates a mode, which causes mistakes when you turn it on accidentally or leave it on after you expect. While in the caps lock mode, all the keys on the keyboard behave differently, in a rather arbitrary way. Shift + letter doesn’t always produce the same character as hold caps lock + letter + release caps lock. This is confusing and unnecessary.

The only real advantage to caps lock vs. holding a shift key down is that holding shift gets uncomfortable with some combinations, but with caps lock you can strike the keys one at a time instead of needing to make a chord.
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If you want to use caps lock to capitalize long stretches of text, and don’t like holding down shift or repeatedly pressing a ◊-like key, you’d be better off typing the text in lower case and then at the end invoking some command which capitalizes the whole word, line, or selection. Exactly what keystroke should invoke that command, how it should work, etc. depends on your personal preferences, and what kind of keystrokes you use for other navigation and selection commands. Basically all text editors currently have ****ty default setups for all of these basic functions, so I recommend customizing something to suit your own personal preferences.

Let me get this straight. The only disadvantage of the caps lock is that on rare occasions, you momentarily mistakenly have it active (which is corrected immediately) -- and most keyboards have an indicator for caps lock. This is the most trivial issue I've come across, so I'm really not sure what we're trying to solve here.

There are many other advantages of caps lock versus using shift. For example, I work in commercial building operation. When naming points and doing graphics, we often use all-caps. The letters are mixed with numbers though, making holding shift a lot more work than it's worth. With hundreds of names like "C04AHU16-P6STS", caps lock makes it a breeze. Using caps-lock makes the keyboard act exactly the same as without, just the letters are capitalized, leaving the numbers and symbols all the same so you can just type everything normally without thinking about it.

How in the world are you "better off typing the text in lower case and then at the end invoking some command which capitalizes [it]"? That seems like a lot more extra work than just tapping a button prior to typing it out. It would also vary depending on applications and be extremely difficult to be selective of what is capitalized and what is not. For example, when making a graphic at my work, how would I invoke a command to capitalize certain blocks of text, while not others? It would be different all over the place and from computer to computer. Nothing even remotely practical going on here.

And it still solves nothing. Caps lock has a lot of uses. Could they move it to where the "scroll lock" (which is actually purposeless) or pause/break is and ditch those? By all means.
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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #446 on: Fri, 27 March 2015, 23:49:06 »
If you’re manually typing hundreds of names like C04AHU16-P6STS into a freeform text field, then IMO there’s probably something horribly wrong with the overall process that goes way beyond caps lock. But in any case, yes, I would rather type that as c04ahu16-p6sts and then afterward press a key/shortcut to invoke a "capitalize the previous word" command, instead of using a mode. It ends up taking one fewer keystroke, and in addition you eliminate the mode.

For me personally, caps lock has zero uses. I literally never use it. There are faster and easier ways to accomplish everything I can imagine ever wanting to do with a caps lock key.
« Last Edit: Fri, 27 March 2015, 23:53:08 by jacobolus »

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #447 on: Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:11:09 »
If you’re manually typing hundreds of names like C04AHU16-P6STS into a freeform text field, then IMO there’s probably something horribly wrong with the overall process that goes way beyond caps lock. But in any case, yes, I would rather type that as c04ahu16-p6sts and then afterward press a key/shortcut to invoke a "capitalize the previous word" command, instead of using a mode. It ends up taking one fewer keystroke, and in addition you eliminate the mode.

For me personally, caps lock has zero uses. I literally never use it. There are faster and easier ways to accomplish everything I can imagine ever wanting to do with a caps lock key.

Are you actually trying to shave off two keystrokes (enabling/disabling CapsLock)? Wouldn't whatever shortcut for capitalizing the previous word require a keystroke combination of keys? It sounds overly complicated. Would you have to do this after each word? That would add a pile of keystrokes and mental work. Would the shortcut work in all programs (ie. across the OS)?

Sorry, I'm just trying to understand. Is this something you have implemented or is this something you would like to see implemented?

PS. I don't actually enter hundreds of those funky names at once, but I'll often make a bunch at a time when needed. Same thing with working with graphics/labels... it helps to just enable it. It's really for an older platform we still support... the newer stuff makes all the tags automatically, which is a godsend as you might imagine!  :eek:

I wouldn't mind seeing it replacing the Pause/Break button as I haven't used that once in my 22 years of computing. Frees up the prime real estate of the current CapsLock while leaving it as an option for those who use it.

Could make an interesting poll to see who uses it these days.
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Offline jacobolus

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #448 on: Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:26:51 »
Are you actually trying to shave off two keystrokes
No, I don’t care at all about two keystrokes. I’m trying to eliminate the mode, as I said several times. :-)

And yes, this is something I have implemented. I have a systemwide shortcut which marks the current insertion point, selects the current word, invokes a 'capitalize' command, and then restores the insertion point, and another shortcut which capitalizes the current selection. (In a more capable text editor, those two can be combined.)

If you have powerful text selection commands (for selecting in various directions by subwords/words/lines/sentences/paragraphs/screens, then it becomes a snap to quickly select specific chunks of text and invoke commands on the selection. This is more general and more powerful than just having a 'caps lock' key, because there are many things besides just capitalizing that I might want to do with some chunk of text.
« Last Edit: Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:32:16 by jacobolus »

Offline Altis

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Re: Unpopular Keyboard Opinions
« Reply #449 on: Sat, 28 March 2015, 00:33:52 »
Are you actually trying to shave off two keystrokes
No, I don’t care at all about two keystrokes. I’m trying to eliminate the mode, as I said several times. :-)

And yes, this is something I have implemented. I have a systemwide shortcut which marks the current insertion point, selects the current word, invokes a 'capitalize' command, and then restores the insertion point, and another shortcut which capitalizes the current selection. (In a more capable text editor, those two can be combined.)

Quite interesting. I can sure see that being useful, especially for things you've already typed.

Still need the old fashioned capslock, so it isn't going anywhere just yet.  ;D
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