O_OFrom where?
GOING TO ORDER NOW!!!!!!
I bet EK will carry these
Nice. Interesting layout. 55g and I am in for one of these :)I believe these are 45g uniform
Nice. Interesting layout. 55g and I am in for one of these :)I believe these are 45g uniform
I thought you liked the HHKB with 45g (maybe I'm thinking of someone else). Wouldn't this be similar to that?
His fingers are too manly for 45g...I'm digging HHKB layout but the lack of dedicated arrow keys kill me. Looking forward to getting this!I like that it has the arrows, as well as a Delete key. I use that thing more than you would think, so having to press another key (Fn) to get to it becomes a hassle.
Done| Ordered 4!O_O
Wha??????
Here I am getting all jacked up for Realforce, and now this?
Just get it! It's like $165 :D
I am so conflicted right now.
Wha??????
Here I am getting all jacked up for Realforce, and now this?
Just get it! It's like $165 :D
I am so conflicted right now.
Not so sure about that... Brian has chosen to stick with the older Leopolds, and does a good business with HHKs.
I've been using a HHKB for about 3.5 years, and even being adjusted to the layout, I'd snag one of these up in a heartbeat. Great switch, cool layout. What's not to love?
I've been using a HHKB for about 3.5 years, and even being adjusted to the layout, I'd snag one of these up in a heartbeat. Great switch, cool layout. What's not to love?
The key caps.
I don't think that shift key will be easily replaced.
I thought you liked the HHKB with 45g (maybe I'm thinking of someone else). Wouldn't this be similar to that?
Done| Ordered 4!
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I think that led still lights up when caps lock is pressed, even if you map it to the bottom left key
But being the 55g master, you should know 45g feels mushy on plate mount :P
I foresee many HHKBs appearing in the classifieds forum over the next several months
LF korean dude who could proxy this thing for me...What else can I say?
Great find on this, calavera. I thought topre switches were patented? If companies that normally use cherry switches can now use topre, then I hope we see more of this diversity.
Great find on this, calavera. I thought topre switches were patented? If companies that normally use cherry switches can now use topre, then I hope we see more of this diversity.
Looks loose to me....
JK, I wouldn't know :-X
Looks loose to me....
JK, I wouldn't know :-X
At least she is safe....she is holding a board full of rubbers.
Great find on this, calavera. I thought topre switches were patented? If companies that normally use cherry switches can now use topre, then I hope we see more of this diversity.
Who uses Insert for anything?
Who uses Insert for anything?
Bunch of unix people for copypasta.
I can't tell...does anyone know if this board use a standard space bar that can be replaced by sets that EK sell?
I just can't figure out why they dedicate those two keys to Del and Insert. Should definitely be PgUp/PgDn. Who uses Insert for anything?
I was looking for more info on these keyboards and I found out some accessories that will be included.
I can't tell...does anyone know if this board use a standard space bar that can be replaced by sets that EK sell?
It LOOKS standard, it looks to be a 6x spacebar (same measurement that's on the Realforce 87U), but I can't quite tell.
If you look at the spacing of the modifers on the bottom row, then the spacebar is less than standard 6.25x, so it can only be 6x size.
If you look at the spacing of the modifers on the bottom row, then the spacebar is less than standard 6.25x, so it can only be 6x size.
Typical Leopold funky space bar. Meh.
If you look at the spacing of the modifers on the bottom row, then the spacebar is less than standard 6.25x, so it can only be 6x size.
Typical Leopold funky space bar. Meh.
From what I understand, it's not THAT funky on Topre. Oh well. Fingers crossed that this comes to the USA at its current price!
If you look at the spacing of the modifers on the bottom row, then the spacebar is less than standard 6.25x, so it can only be 6x size.
Typical Leopold funky space bar. Meh.
From what I understand, it's not THAT funky on Topre. Oh well. Fingers crossed that this comes to the USA at its current price!
It's definitely funky if it doesn't fit standard topre key cap sets.
I knew a new Topre board would come out the sec EK put their tenkeyless on sale.I believe they went on sale due to the currency exchange with Japan. Right?
I knew a new Topre board would come out the sec EK put their tenkeyless on sale.I believe they went on sale due to the currency exchange with Japan. Right?
I've been holding off buying a RealForce, the one I like the most. I like the HHKB, but I need arrows. Will there be a new version of either of these boards anytime soon?
Type-S incoming, writing this on a RF KTL and I'm SO GOING TO BUY THAT ONE. ;) Proxy in Korea found (2 in fact). Me and 5 friends will make them work. ;)
I've been holding off buying a RealForce, the one I like the most. I like the HHKB, but I need arrows. Will there be a new version of either of these boards anytime soon?
There's the hipro coming soon with a different type of topre switch, but that's all I know about it. There's a thread somewhere in here about it.
Not really competition, Leo and Topre have been doing business a long time.Realforce is a daughter company of Leopold, IIRC.
Not really competition, Leo and Topre have been doing business a long time.Realforce is a daughter company of Leopold, IIRC.
Not really competition, Leo and Topre have been doing business a long time.Realforce is a daughter company of Leopold, IIRC.
Ok nevermind I don't know what I'm talking about.
So.... anybody got a proxy that I might be able to hit up to get me one of these boards? Not above paying a little extra for the service :)
Not really competition, Leo and Topre have been doing business a long time.Realforce is a daughter company of Leopold, IIRC.
Ok nevermind I don't know what I'm talking about.
I am confused.
Topre = Japanese
Leopold = Korean
And as far as I know there are only two Topre Capacitive Switch factories in the world (correct me if i am wrong), one at Topre itself and the other being PFU (maker of HHKB).
Where is Leo going to get these made? If they are being made at Topre the tooling and build process would be crazy expensive so this is only the beginning. Or if Leopold is going to somehow start making Topre Switches then....whoa.
Basically what i am saying is no one can simply start making Topre boards because they want to. Something big is in the works.
Therefore I am instantly going to start envisioning a Topre TKL with Dolch DSA Sphericals and Large Center Printed Legends of yersteryear. DONT RAIN ON MY PARADE!
Type-S incoming, writing this on a RF KTL and I'm SO GOING TO BUY THAT ONE. ;) Proxy in Korea found (2 in fact). Me and 5 friends will make them work. ;)
What is a KTL? what is special about the type S? do you have a link
predicting that Topre will one-up Leopold by releasing the HHKB3 soon (total speculation)
though the price point of the Leopold will still attract buyers
predicting that Topre will one-up Leopold by releasing the HHKB3 soon (total speculation)
though the price point of the Leopold will still attract buyers
Sigh.
PFU makes HHKB
Same space bar confirmed:
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/photo/6439485 (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/photo/6439485)
Lol.. you're probably right. But I can't help it
Also I would be way more enthused about this model if they moved backspace to the HHKB position and put tilde and pipe/backslash on top.
Also I would be way more enthused about this model if they moved backspace to the HHKB position and put tilde and pipe/backslash on top.
Then it would be an HHKB :P
a HHKB with Arrows!, which is the only thing preventing me from buying one.
A HHKB Lite with Topre switches.
A HHKB Lite with Topre switches.
That would be a.......
Also I would be way more enthused about this model if they moved backspace to the HHKB position and put tilde and pipe/backslash on top.
dawg dongit!!! I just want a keyboard!!!
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dawg dongit!!! I just want a keyboard!!!
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Does this mean the cost of the item is '1 dog'?
Also I would be way more enthused about this model if they moved backspace to the HHKB position and put tilde and pipe/backslash on top.
I'm with you after using my HHKB with Delete above Enter. I love it there. So I used AutoHotKey to create a script that runs at startup. It remaps those two keys on all my non-HHKB boards.
When I want to use my HHKB, I simply right-click on the systray icon and 'Suspend Hotkeys'. When I switch back to my TKL, just uncheck 'Suspend Hotkeys'.
Here is the script:
\::BS
|::BS
BS::\
Easy as pie. Works great for all your non-HHKB boards. If you're already running an AutoHotKey script, create this as a separate script. That way, when you 'Suspend Hotkeys', it doesn't stop your other key remapping you have running.
If you have more than one instance of AutoHotKey scripts running, each will have a separate icon in your Systray. The icon will also give you the status...
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And the FC660C has a plate, which makes a huge difference in sound.
But damn, that video made me want one even more :(
Oooooh, that FC660C sound makes me even more excited for this. :)
I need a Type-S version of this now.
Mod it to a type-s with 55g? :o
I'd say so, definitely.
I'd say so, definitely.
To clarify: I can't comment on whether the quality of a RF will be better or worse than the FC660C, as I've never used the Leo.
However, IMO the quality of the RealForce boards is impeccable. If I were to suggest a RF board to you, it'd have to be the White 55g 87U. Why? Well, I'm on a white kick lately, and 55g is by far my favorite switch. As far as I'm concerned it is the perfect switch to type on.
It's not that hard to choose, if you're willing to lose a invest a couple bucks to try it out. The RealForces have extremely good resale value. If you get one and don't like it, you can sell it here on the classifieds for close to what you paid for it.
Where can i buy one? Can someone supply me a link? Thanks!!!!
Where can i buy one? Can someone supply me a link? Thanks!!!!
if you were talking about the one that I just said I'm going to purchase:
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards
Okay thanks. I don't know why elitekeyboards doesn't sell the newer leopolds. I wish they would. If anyone speaks Korean and can help me out with ordering one i would appreciate it! ;D
I'm a woman. I would get a Korean boyfriend first! :D
So did anyone get this yet?
So did anyone get this yet?
Mine will be here early next week :D
Mine will be here early next week :D
Mine will be here early next week :D
What's the wallet damage for the proxy export?
cost + shipping...
Yup. I'm actually selling my HHKB (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42505.0) in anticipation of this. Just can't get used to the layout, and a 60% Topre with arrow keys is just too good to pass up.
The 45g Topre switch is lighter than a Cherry Red. Unless you are perfect at pushing your Cherry only 2 mm deep every time (which you probably aren't) --in which case the maximum force applied remains 45g-- 45g is the average force required to bottom-out on a Cherry Red, while on Topre 45g switches the "45g" is the maximum required force on the graph (and they average at about just 37-38g, which is less than the Cherry Reds).
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We are already looking into this model, hopefully we will have some good news soon!
Do you guys really want a Korean built keyboard right now? What if Kim Jung Turd decides to infiltrate the US via keyboards programming them to explode when a certain combination of keystrokes is entered?
Or in a second scenario, since he can't get weapons to work correctly, he hires weapons makers to construct keyboards for Americans. Since he can't blow us up, he decides to make us all really mad when we get our non functional keyboards!
food for thought!
North Korea != South Korea
My 660c will be here tomorrow!!! Will update with pics and review
My 660c will be here tomorrow!!! Will update with pics and review
My 660c will be here tomorrow!!! Will update with pics and review
North Korea != South Korea
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?
North Korea != South Korea
My 660c will be here tomorrow!!! Will update with pics and reviewgimme one
My 660c will be here tomorrow!!! Will update with pics and reviewgimme one
NO, But can trade you for HHKB if I don't like it ;P
Quick question:
Is this uniform 45g?
Quick question:
Is this uniform 45g?
Yup, but 45g plate mounted (ala RealForce), rather than PCB(sorta) (ala HHKB)
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boost seems to be out for the evening, but he posted these over in the What did you get in the mail today? (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg863549#msg863549) thread:Show Image(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/23/uha5ana3.jpg)Show Image(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/23/u5e9u5uj.jpg)Show Image(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/23/ahere2ud.jpg)
boost seems to be out for the evening, but he posted these over in the What did you get in the mail today? (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg863549#msg863549) thread:Show Image(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/23/uha5ana3.jpg)Show Image(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/23/u5e9u5uj.jpg)Show Image(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/23/ahere2ud.jpg)
:D
I think I like topre, I just might like topre.
Still need to get a review done on this keyboard. This is my first 45g topre as I've owned 2 55g RF 10th AE(daerid owns one of previous RF).
I feel the HHKB might be coming my way soon :D
I see you have quite the supply. Are you selling the rest?
I see you have quite the supply. Are you selling the rest?
I asked him hours ago and still no response :(
I have one coming in on the off chance that it feels more like an HHKB than a RF. I will flip it for cost if I don't end up liking it.
People who have it said it's closer to a realforce than HHKB. Some preferred it over the HHKB but then again this is purely subjective so YMMV.
I see you have quite the supply. Are you selling the rest?
I asked him hours ago and still no response :(
I see you have quite the supply. Are you selling the rest?
I asked him hours ago and still no response :(
Sorry, thought I replied in the thread. These are all spoken for. Don't worry ;)
Damn it. Bummed I gotta wait till next week.
Has anyone pinged EK to see if they're bringing this model to the US soon?It would be real nice if EK will have them available here soon! This could be a nice HHKB, Realforce hybrid.
I got mine today as well, and I'd agree with that. But as a current owner of a RF and previous owner of a HHKB, I like both the sound and feel of this board to either. The layout is perfect for me and the keys that I use. (May take some adjustment for others.) Seriously considering getting an MX version now, just so I can play with keycaps easier. :-)
You're not exactly clear here. How does it compare to the RF?
Ok, so how is everybody getting these?
You're not exactly clear here. How does it compare to the RF?
A bit louder and a snappier feel. Seems to be a blend in between RF and HHKB.
I prefer the feel of the 660 to my 45g Realforce.will you be bringing yours to the meetup? i'd love to try it out.
Topre are industrial switches built for longevity. They need to break in just like a pair of good quality leather boots.
These guys that preach the 55g gospel are right on the money.
Topre are industrial switches built for longevity. They need to break in just like a pair of good quality leather boots.
:)) there's nothing wrong or anything with that statement... i just think it's funny to compare a keyboard to boots
If this is as good as people are saying, I may get one and sell my 55g RF
I prefer the feel of the 660 to my 45g Realforce.will you be bringing yours to the meetup? i'd love to try it out.
and if hashbaz lets me try a topre board i invariably end up buying one about a week later... this bodes poorly for my savings account :(Topre are industrial switches built for longevity. They need to break in just like a pair of good quality leather boots.
:)) there's nothing wrong or anything with that statement... i just think it's funny to compare a keyboard to boots
I too took Bro Caps and others advice on the 55g Realforce. I knew right away I made a right decision for me. Seems like the new F660c is between a 45g and 55g Realforce in feel.These guys that preach the 55g gospel are right on the money.
Amen, brother.
i feel like all topre switches are extremely light..are there any heavy topres?
i feel like all topre switches are extremely light..are there any heavy topres?
55g is the heaviest topre switch.
I guess i will have to wait until the nyc meetup to try topres..hopefully someone will bring a topre board
I thought you liked the HHKB with 45g (maybe I'm thinking of someone else). Wouldn't this be similar to that?
Type-S, yeah. But this board is plate mounted like RF's. And to me, plate mounted 45g feels mushy.
I hear there is a group buy being setup to bring some of these into the states. If that is accurate, can someone point me in the right direction?
bp
Makes for a great coffee shop keyboard! I've never really had a ~60% keyboard before except a RACE (which I got rid of quick). I see the appeal. :)
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Makes for a great coffee shop keyboard! I've never really had a ~60% keyboard before except a RACE (which I got rid of quick). I see the appeal. :)
I set my HHKB on top my rMBP 15" keyboard, perfect fit.
Makes for a great coffee shop keyboard! I've never really had a ~60% keyboard before except a RACE (which I got rid of quick). I see the appeal. :)
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To me the HHKB is the best 60% for laptop use, its small form factor and light weight is easy to pack in a typical 15" laptop bag or backpack. Its weight is hardly noticeable to me in my bag. Others with plate mount switches would weigh me down for on the go use it all adds up IMHO.I set my HHKB on top my rMBP 15" keyboard, perfect fit.
This one fits perfectly over the 15" (and other I guess, since the keyboard is the same size for 13-17"). The feet go just outside of the keyboard. I leave it on top if my table isn't too high. Else, I usually have the keyboard in my lap or something. :)
Makes for a great coffee shop keyboard! I've never really had a ~60% keyboard before except a RACE (which I got rid of quick). I see the appeal. :)
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Macbook AND Topre in coffee shop? Hipster alert!
or anybody bringing an external keyboard for a laptop, for that matter :PMacbook AND Topre in coffee shop? Hipster alert!
Haha, I don't think anyone would mistake this ole country boy for a hipster. :)
Just picked mine up from boost (hella nice guy, btw). And I have to admit, I love it (typing on it right now). Definitely feels better to me than the HHKB did, and there's something magical about the sound. The "thock" is a bit higher pitched than on the RF boards. It's definitely lighter than the 55g, that's for sure, but it's still a pleasure to type on. Plus... arrow keys!!!!! This board is phenomenal. I might swoon...
Just picked mine up from boost (hella nice guy, btw). And I have to admit, I love it (typing on it right now). Definitely feels better to me than the HHKB did, and there's something magical about the sound. The "thock" is a bit higher pitched than on the RF boards. It's definitely lighter than the 55g, that's for sure, but it's still a pleasure to type on. Plus... arrow keys!!!!! This board is phenomenal. I might swoon...
Just picked mine up from boost (hella nice guy, btw). And I have to admit, I love it (typing on it right now). Definitely feels better to me than the HHKB did, and there's something magical about the sound. The "thock" is a bit higher pitched than on the RF boards. It's definitely lighter than the 55g, that's for sure, but it's still a pleasure to type on. Plus... arrow keys!!!!! This board is phenomenal. I might swoon...
I think you're opinion of the RF is well documented. So, knowing that, if you had to pick only one. Which would it be? RF or the Leo?
:D
Glad you like it and I'm trying to learn the hhkb layout now. Well say that the 660c has a much more crisp feel to it compared to the hhkb...hhkb bs seems weird but feels like it belongs in that position.
2. Dip Switch 4 : No clue on this one.
1) It's back-tick-lock (or anti-Esc lock). The way they did Esc is pretty awesome for a UNIX user. It's Esc by default, but Shift+Esc gives you tilde no matter what. Fn+Esc gives you back-tick. Setting anti-Esc lock inverts everything so that Fn+Esc is now Esc but Shift+Esc and Shift+Fn+Esc are all still tilde. I will definitely be setting up my GH60 this way.
2) Don't know either.
1) It's back-tick-lock (or anti-Esc lock). The way they did Esc is pretty awesome for a UNIX user. It's Esc by default, but Shift+Esc gives you tilde no matter what. Fn+Esc gives you back-tick. Setting anti-Esc lock inverts everything so that Fn+Esc is now Esc but Shift+Esc and Shift+Fn+Esc are all still tilde. I will definitely be setting up my GH60 this way.
2) Don't know either.
Just picked mine up from boost (hella nice guy, btw). And I have to admit, I love it (typing on it right now). Definitely feels better to me than the HHKB did, and there's something magical about the sound. The "thock" is a bit higher pitched than on the RF boards. It's definitely lighter than the 55g, that's for sure, but it's still a pleasure to type on. Plus... arrow keys!!!!! This board is phenomenal. I might swoon...
PCCG sometimes seems a bit hit and miss with what they stock - only some Ducky keyboards for example. RealForce 87U only in white but 104U in black and white.
I've had it for a few days now and I love it but two cons for me personally:
1. Need to use both hands to use function row F1 and F2. I can only reach as far as F3. Small hands FTL. :(
2. Print on key caps are somewhat inconsistent or they're already show signs of wear. A, S, D in particular. (gonna replace them with topre RF dye subs though)
I'm still debating if I should sell mine, because typing on them is fking awesome.
Can you link the pics? I usually delete old PM's.
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If you're refering to the surface, they feel scratchy for sure.
I want custom double shot / dye-sub windows caps in different colours..ooh now i want doubleshot 6 color apple command keys
I've had it for a few days now and I love it but two cons for me personally:
1. Need to use both hands to use function row F1 and F2. I can only reach as far as F3. Small hands FTL. :(
2. Print on key caps are somewhat inconsistent or they're already show signs of wear. A, S, D in particular. (gonna replace them with topre RF dye subs though)
I'm still debating if I should sell mine, because typing on them is fking awesome.
If you use RF caps you'll be short of a full set because the win & app keys are 1x and other mods 1.5x, plus RF caps are expensive. It would cost about the same to get a RF 87u or HHKB Pro 2. Topre sets are limited to RF or HHKB sets right now.I've had it for a few days now and I love it but two cons for me personally:
1. Need to use both hands to use function row F1 and F2. I can only reach as far as F3. Small hands FTL. :(
2. Print on key caps are somewhat inconsistent or they're already show signs of wear. A, S, D in particular. (gonna replace them with topre RF dye subs though)
I'm still debating if I should sell mine, because typing on them is fking awesome.
If you do decide to sell, I reserve the right to be first in line :)
Good to know about the caps. I would likely replace them with RF dye-subs as well, but it would still probably piss me off to get an expensive board with lasered PBT's as a selling point only for them to fall short in the QC department.
If you use RF caps you'll be short of a full set because the win & app keys are 1x and other mods 1.5x, plus RF caps are expensive. It would cost about the same to get a RF 87u or HHKB Pro 2. Topre sets are limited to RF or HHKB sets right now.I've had it for a few days now and I love it but two cons for me personally:
1. Need to use both hands to use function row F1 and F2. I can only reach as far as F3. Small hands FTL. :(
2. Print on key caps are somewhat inconsistent or they're already show signs of wear. A, S, D in particular. (gonna replace them with topre RF dye subs though)
I'm still debating if I should sell mine, because typing on them is fking awesome.
If you do decide to sell, I reserve the right to be first in line :)
Good to know about the caps. I would likely replace them with RF dye-subs as well, but it would still probably piss me off to get an expensive board with lasered PBT's as a selling point only for them to fall short in the QC department.
anybody here know if these work on mac osx? the site doesnt say they do, but it doesnt say they dont either. if one of you could test one out on a mac and let me know i'd really appreciate it.
anybody here know if these work on mac osx? the site doesnt say they do, but it doesnt say they dont either. if one of you could test one out on a mac and let me know i'd really appreciate it.
I believe aggiejy has one, and he's a Mac guy. I'll take mine home tonight and try it on my Macbook.
If you use RF caps you'll be short of a full set because the win & app keys are 1x and other mods 1.5x, plus RF caps are expensive. It would cost about the same to get a RF 87u or HHKB Pro 2. Topre sets are limited to RF or HHKB sets right now.I've had it for a few days now and I love it but two cons for me personally:
1. Need to use both hands to use function row F1 and F2. I can only reach as far as F3. Small hands FTL. :(
2. Print on key caps are somewhat inconsistent or they're already show signs of wear. A, S, D in particular. (gonna replace them with topre RF dye subs though)
I'm still debating if I should sell mine, because typing on them is fking awesome.
If you do decide to sell, I reserve the right to be first in line :)
Good to know about the caps. I would likely replace them with RF dye-subs as well, but it would still probably piss me off to get an expensive board with lasered PBT's as a selling point only for them to fall short in the QC department.
anybody here know if these work on mac osx? the site doesnt say they do, but it doesnt say they dont either. if one of you could test one out on a mac and let me know i'd really appreciate it
anybody here know if these work on mac osx? the site doesnt say they do, but it doesnt say they dont either. if one of you could test one out on a mac and let me know i'd really appreciate it
It works perfect on a Mac! Any particular concerns? I've been using it as my primary for about a week now I guess, I love!
Moreanybody here know if these work on mac osx? the site doesnt say they do, but it doesnt say they dont either. if one of you could test one out on a mac and let me know i'd really appreciate it
It works perfect on a Mac! Any particular concerns? I've been using it as my primary for about a week now I guess, I love!
ok thats great to hear. it's just because if i were to get one i would use it with my imac
anybody here know if these work on mac osx? the site doesnt say they do, but it doesnt say they dont either. if one of you could test one out on a mac and let me know i'd really appreciate it
It works perfect on a Mac! Any particular concerns? I've been using it as my primary for about a week now I guess, I love!
ok thats great to hear. it's just because if i were to get one i would use it with my imac
anybody here know if these work on mac osx? the site doesnt say they do, but it doesnt say they dont either. if one of you could test one out on a mac and let me know i'd really appreciate it
well, you can always press ctrl + alt + del and then simply select task manager. But I guess that defeats the purpose of hotkeys.As a occasional Windows user I find that is needed a lot, they should have the Win key do that. :p
Any "easy" way to obtain this board?
http://item2.gmarket.co.kr/English/detailview/Item.aspx?goodscode=353374845&pos_shop_cd=RC&pos_class_cd=111111111&pos_class_kind=TAny "easy" way to obtain this board?
Proxy it from Leopold.co.kr / Go to Japan / Korea and buy it there.
http://item2.gmarket.co.kr/English/detailview/Item.aspx?goodscode=353374845&pos_shop_cd=RC&pos_class_cd=111111111&pos_class_kind=TAny "easy" way to obtain this board?
Proxy it from Leopold.co.kr / Go to Japan / Korea and buy it there.
They ship international. Seems like they work like proxy shipping.
Still waiting mine. ;)
http://item2.gmarket.co.kr/English/detailview/Item.aspx?goodscode=353374845&pos_shop_cd=RC&pos_class_cd=111111111&pos_class_kind=TAny "easy" way to obtain this board?
Proxy it from Leopold.co.kr / Go to Japan / Korea and buy it there.
They ship international. Seems like they work like proxy shipping.
Still waiting mine. ;)
Even more surprise after paying by Paypal. GMarket will ask you to send them passport and credit card image by email. :mad: Not sure if it is safe or not.
From my location (mongolia), didn't found any other way get this keyboard.
Also seems like seller is from leopold he uses email from leopold.co.kr.
Used google translate.
Option is : Korean or English printed version
Additional Option: Red esc, key puller, purple wasd, etc.
It was the same for me and I sent them a scan of my ID. No problem after that. (ordered 2 rf)
Did you have to pay any import tax? I'm also in EU and I'm seriously considering getting one. However I'm little afraid because once I bought a keyboard from PChome and some ****ers in customs put more tax than the keyboard is worth itself.
QuoteDid you have to pay any import tax? I'm also in EU and I'm seriously considering getting one. However I'm little afraid because once I bought a keyboard from PChome and some ****ers in customs put more tax than the keyboard is worth itself.
Sounds like a mess. This sort of stuff usually works even here, in Czechia (dear 'murricans, please, don't confuse it with Chechnya). You have to fill one or two forms, send them a screenshot of the eshop or your PayPal account, and that's it.
goods worth less than 22€ are not taxable
Quotegoods worth less than 22€ are not taxable
That applies EU-wide.
It's questionable whether it's ethical, or not, but the main reason why I don't lie about it is... laziness.
I believe it's an economic thing. Say somebody in the US buys some goods from some business in the UK. That's money actually leaving the US economy. So the US imposes import fees to try and recuperate some of those lost funds.
Trade/Import/Export tariffs are the oldest taxes in existence.
Odd. I ordered from GMarket a few days ago. They charged my card a few days later. I emailed to ask when it would ship (order says "pre-request" status) - they said held up due to my needing to send a photo of my ccard in (with some #'s obscured). I did that today...but they had charged my card already...
Seems...odd.
bp
Ok --- GMARKET WARNING:
On April 29 I ordered an FC660C from GMarket.
I paid with my US Wells Fargo Visa credit card. On May 3rd I see the charge posted to my account on the Wells Fargo website.
I noticed, after this, that the order status still said "pre-request" and so I emailed to ask why. I received a response indicating that I had been sent an email asking for a photo of my ccard (with some #'s blocked out) for verification. I had not received any such email, but I went ahead and sent in the requested photo. I included my Visa card and my driver's license.
In the middle of the night I got an email saying thanks, the info will be sent on to the person in charge. 15 minutes later an email came indicating that my CANCELLATION is complete. The order has been cancelled.
That's the order that they successfully charged me for days ago. So they have my money, and I have no keyboard coming.
There is nothing strange about my credit, I am not on some list of people who has worked a scam at any point, etc. That card was charged days ago.
So -- BEWARE OF GMARKET, folks.
I am going to get on the group order list here -- I want a damned FC600C! -- and in the event that GMarket does deliver what I paid for already, I will sell it here or on eBay to someone in need of that model.
I thought folks here would appreciate my story. I will post an update if I see my charge credited (it's not happened yet).
bp
http://blakespot.com
Even if anyone misses out on the GB, just hang tight for a month or two. EliteKeyboards popped into a Reddit thread and said that they would indeed have this board sooner rather than later. They mentioned how this was a pretty closely guarded secret and that most vendors weren't even aware of it until about 2 weeks before it was available.
Ok --- GMARKET WARNING:
On April 29 I ordered an FC660C from GMarket.
I paid with my US Wells Fargo Visa credit card. On May 3rd I see the charge posted to my account on the Wells Fargo website.
I noticed, after this, that the order status still said "pre-request" and so I emailed to ask why. I received a response indicating that I had been sent an email asking for a photo of my ccard (with some #'s blocked out) for verification. I had not received any such email, but I went ahead and sent in the requested photo. I included my Visa card and my driver's license.
In the middle of the night I got an email saying thanks, the info will be sent on to the person in charge. 15 minutes later an email came indicating that my CANCELLATION is complete. The order has been cancelled.
That's the order that they successfully charged me for days ago. So they have my money, and I have no keyboard coming.
There is nothing strange about my credit, I am not on some list of people who has worked a scam at any point, etc. That card was charged days ago.
So -- BEWARE OF GMARKET, folks.
I am going to get on the group order list here -- I want a damned FC600C! -- and in the event that GMarket does deliver what I paid for already, I will sell it here or on eBay to someone in need of that model.
I thought folks here would appreciate my story. I will post an update if I see my charge credited (it's not happened yet).
bp
http://blakespot.com
Dude, why don't you just call your credit card company for a refund. Go into dispute and you get your money back right away.
Ok --- GMARKET WARNING:
On April 29 I ordered an FC660C from GMarket.
I paid with my US Wells Fargo Visa credit card. On May 3rd I see the charge posted to my account on the Wells Fargo website.
I noticed, after this, that the order status still said "pre-request" and so I emailed to ask why. I received a response indicating that I had been sent an email asking for a photo of my ccard (with some #'s blocked out) for verification. I had not received any such email, but I went ahead and sent in the requested photo. I included my Visa card and my driver's license.
In the middle of the night I got an email saying thanks, the info will be sent on to the person in charge. 15 minutes later an email came indicating that my CANCELLATION is complete. The order has been cancelled.
That's the order that they successfully charged me for days ago. So they have my money, and I have no keyboard coming.
There is nothing strange about my credit, I am not on some list of people who has worked a scam at any point, etc. That card was charged days ago.
So -- BEWARE OF GMARKET, folks.
I am going to get on the group order list here -- I want a damned FC600C! -- and in the event that GMarket does deliver what I paid for already, I will sell it here or on eBay to someone in need of that model.
I thought folks here would appreciate my story. I will post an update if I see my charge credited (it's not happened yet).
bp
http://blakespot.com
Don't mind one bit. I find the build quality superb, so it could be built in Abu Dhabi for all I care. But thanks for the tip :)
Interesting that no one has mentioned that this Leopold is made in China...
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leopold.co.kr%2F%3Fdoc%3Dcart%2Flist.php%26ca_id%3D104009 (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leopold.co.kr%2F%3Fdoc%3Dcart%2Flist.php%26ca_id%3D104009)
Click on "Black English Leopold FC660C" - "Place of Origin" is on right.
Not sure I'm liking it or not lol. Definitely feels different from MX boards.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42300.0;attach=21564;image
I foresee many HHKBs appearing in the classifieds forum over the next several months
I foresee many HHKBs appearing in the classifieds forum over the next several months
Good. AFAIC, the HHKB layout is one of (if not THE) best layouts available. There is nothing I don't like about it. The switch is of secondary importance to me (topre capacitives aren't my favorite, but I do like them)...Combined with that layout, the keyboard is tough to beat.
Because of angle. Quite smaller than Filco TKL.http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42300.0;attach=21564;image
In the second picture how come the leo looks the same size as the tkl board? Some sort of optical illusion?
To people who've actually received their boards, is the key texture anything like what's found on the HHKB? or is it rougher?No idea. First topre first board.
Looks amazing tbh, I wonder if I could adapt to having to use a modifier for escape and the f-row. You can have the fn key on the left I assume?
After quite bit hassle from GMarket, at least got it.
Not sure I'm liking it or not lol. Definitely feels different from MX boards. :cool:
The HHKB sets the 60% standard that others will be judged against. I believe it will remain one of the best of the 60% form factor, and retain its popularity. With all the new sixty some key models lately it will remain my personal favorite.I foresee many HHKBs appearing in the classifieds forum over the next several months
Good. AFAIC, the HHKB layout is one of (if not THE) best layouts available. There is nothing I don't like about it. The switch is of secondary importance to me (topre capacitives aren't my favorite, but I do like them)...Combined with that layout, the keyboard is tough to beat.
I foresee many HHKBs appearing in the classifieds forum over the next several months
Good. AFAIC, the HHKB layout is one of (if not THE) best layouts available. There is nothing I don't like about it. The switch is of secondary importance to me (topre capacitives aren't my favorite, but I do like them)...Combined with that layout, the keyboard is tough to beat.
Interesting that no one has mentioned that this Leopold is made in China...
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leopold.co.kr%2F%3Fdoc%3Dcart%2Flist.php%26ca_id%3D104009
Click on "Black English Leopold FC660C" - "Place of Origin" is on right.
The build quality is very nice, the only odd thing I've noticed is that the the enter and backspace keys have a different high-pitched pinging sound than the rest of the keys on the board. I assume this is intentional though.
My 660C is in my bag for travel this morning. Got my MX Blue board hooked up atm, and I gotta say these switches feel trashy in comparison now. Its like, Topre is my trophy wife and I just met these MX Blues in the back of a strip club........little rough around the edges but they will do. New Topre dude here...daedrid you can ring the bell or whatever type of ceremony you do upon a successful conversion. hahah
Can anyone give me a good comparison between properly lubed ergo clears (Springs & Stems) and 45g Topre?
Unlubed Topre feel as slick as carefully lubed MX.
The tactile bump from ergo-clears is more towards the middle, and at one smaller point. Once you press through this point, you can stop without bottoming out and allow the switch to reset. There is a more clear separation where the bump is, and where it's linear.
Topre has the tactile "bump" at the very top, and you feel it as soon as you press the switch. This bump is over a larger interval of the key press. Actuation is still in the middle, but because of the longer interval of this tactile region, it forces you to bottom out after this bump. It's near impossible to "float type" and stop right after the actuation point. The switch is tactile, yet linear because there is no clear separation where the linear region vs tactile region is (let's see a topre virgin get your mind around that ^-^ ). Unlubed Topre feel as slick as carefully lubed MX.
What's lubed Topre feel like, ecstasy? ^-^
Thanks so much for the well thought out reply! I already had a general idea of what to expect from reading/searching, but your explanation really put everything into perspective. The only thing I'm disliking is the inability to "float type", so I'll have to practice (lol). I'm fairly confident I can type on a Topre without bottoming out very much, although it sounds like I might fail to actuate while trying to learn how to do so.
It is not worth trying to float type on Topre...unless you have all 30g Topre, you'll basically find it impossible to do...There are no advantages to it and your speed will take a huge hit. Bottoming out on Topre is actually quite enjoyable....
So.... ABS Spacebar?
OK, I'm sure that someone probably covered this "somewhere", but how does the feel of the FC660C (which I have) compare to a Realforce 87U (all 45g)?
OK, I'm sure that someone probably covered this "somewhere", but how does the feel of the FC660C (which I have) compare to a Realforce 87U (all 45g)?
I think daedrid said that he prefers the FC660C over the 45g Realforce because it doesn't feel mushy.
OK, I'm sure that someone probably covered this "somewhere", but how does the feel of the FC660C (which I have) compare to a Realforce 87U (all 45g)?
I think daedrid said that he prefers the FC660C over the 45g Realforce because it doesn't feel mushy.
So the FC660C might be closer,in feel, to Realforce 87U (all 55G)?
It's near impossible to "float type" and stop right after the actuation point.
The only thing I'm disliking is the inability to "float type", so I'll have to practice (lol). I'm fairly confident I can type on a Topre without bottoming out very much, although it sounds like I might fail to actuate while trying to learn how to do so.
It's near impossible to "float type" and stop right after the actuation point.
The only thing I'm disliking is the inability to "float type", so I'll have to practice (lol). I'm fairly confident I can type on a Topre without bottoming out very much, although it sounds like I might fail to actuate while trying to learn how to do so.
When you try to do this float type on these switches, you'll be fighting against your own fingers and the inherent properties of the rubber cup. It takes a certain amount of force to start moving the keys downward, but once you've overcome this force barrier, it's going to push all the way through to the bottom. Under normal typing conditions, there are only 2 discrete key positions; resting or bottom-out. You can artificially slowly press it down halfway to test it, but no one types like this.
I'm giving this FC660C a fair 5 days of typing, but still not use to being forced to bottom-out. My typing speed had a noticeable decrease because of this.
Topre requires a different typing technique compared to cherry. I find myself typing faster on topre if I immediately release the switch once I overcome the initial tactile bump in the switch. It's hard to describe but you almost have to stab at the switches, unlike cherry where you can more or less press the switch.
Topre requires a different typing technique compared to cherry. I find myself typing faster on topre if I immediately release the switch once I overcome the initial tactile bump in the switch. It's hard to describe but you almost have to stab at the switches, unlike cherry where you can more or less press the switch.
I think I'm understanding you correctly. That just means you're pressing it with just enough force to overcome to tactile bump, so you bottom out very softly, but regardless, it still bottoms out before resetting. Right? This is how I'm typing right now. Most of the noise is from the keys springing back up, very little is from it hitting the bottom (although it still happens).
Perhaps this is more relevant on the 55g topres as opposed to the 45g topres.
It's a very unique feel and very unique typing style. I am definitely faster on something like Cherry browns, but nowhere near as comfortable and relaxed, which I'll take over speed any day of the week.Have you switched over to the Leopold as your daily driver, or do you kind of alternate between that and the 55g?
I've been using it as my daily since 5/1, but today I went back to the 55g because I'm letting Jocelyn borrow my Leo for a week.
I've been using it as my daily since 5/1, but today I went back to the 55g because I'm letting Jocelyn borrow my Leo for a week.
I've been using it as my daily since 5/1, but today I went back to the 55g because I'm letting Jocelyn borrow my Leo for a week.
aaaaannnnnndddddddddddd.............??
Edit: stupid emoticons ????????
I've been using it as my daily since 5/1, but today I went back to the 55g because I'm letting Jocelyn borrow my Leo for a week.
Seriously... cool story bro. And what else?
I've been using it as my daily since 5/1, but today I went back to the 55g because I'm letting Jocelyn borrow my Leo for a week.
aaaaannnnnndddddddddddd.............??
Edit: stupid emoticons ????????I've been using it as my daily since 5/1, but today I went back to the 55g because I'm letting Jocelyn borrow my Leo for a week.
Seriously... cool story bro. And what else?
?!?!? What do you mean? Somebody asked a question and I provided an answer. I'm confused :(
Discovered my first complaint with this keyboard: since the legs are rubberized they stick and when they stick they like to fold under when you move the keyboard forward. I don't know what it is, but I tend to make minor adjustments to my keyboard all day. I'll get used to it though :)
Minor gripe.
I'm REALLY surprised you didn't get his post. I think it had to do with him sending me his FC660C instead of you lol
I'm REALLY surprised you didn't get his post. I think it had to do with him sending me his FC660C instead of you lol
Ahhhh ok. I think it was the one-two punch of the previous post followed by WFD's that threw me.
I'm REALLY surprised you didn't get his post. I think it had to do with him sending me his FC660C instead of you lol
Ahhhh ok. I think it was the one-two punch of the previous post followed by WFD's that threw me.
And as to the rubber feet, I for one think that's a bonus feature, not a gripe :) but to each their own
Yes!! This!I'm REALLY surprised you didn't get his post. I think it had to do with him sending me his FC660C instead of you lol
Ahhhh ok. I think it was the one-two punch of the previous post followed by WFD's that threw me.
And as to the rubber feet, I for one think that's a bonus feature, not a gripe :) but to each their own
C'mon daerid. Quit keeping us in suspense. What's your opinion on the RF vs. HHKB vs. F660c.
Fn+Arrow keys double as page up, page down, home and end in a super intuitive wayI had no clue about this though! Thanks! :)
Great write-up, daerid. I agree for the most part. The only parts I disagree on is mostly HHKB-related. I never got the sensation of the HHKB feeling fragile. It feels pretty damned solid to me. Once I learned the layout, and my muscle memory adapted, it wasn't an issue using arrows or the backspace. In fact, I dislike swapping between the RF and the HHKB just because of the backspace being so far from my pinky on the RF.
Just keep in mind that topre switches have a break in, and will feel different after some time. So while the Leo might feel crisp and fresh, give it a good month and come back and publish your thoughts :)
Hasn't daerid had his 660C for a month already? I remember him having it before the GB even started.
you should grab a topre board, phillyI already have a 660C ordered, it's gonna be tough waiting until there back in stock! :D I guess i'll just have to get by watching youtube typing videos. I can't tell you guys how many times I've been ridiculed by friends when I'm caught watching typing test videos on youtube, haha.
Daerid, you forgot to publish your review of the other Topre keyboard, the µTron keyboard.
Daerid, you forgot to publish your review of the other Topre keyboard, the µTron keyboard.
Daerid, you forgot to publish your review of the other Topre keyboard, the µTron keyboard.
I don't have one and have never used one (soon to be rectified I hope!!!)
you should grab a topre board, phillyI already have a 660C ordered, it's gonna be tough waiting until there back in stock! :D I guess i'll just have to get by watching youtube typing videos. I can't tell you guys how many times I've been ridiculed by friends when I'm caught watching typing test videos on youtube, haha.
I was ALMOST caught today at work watching a typing video. I heard footsteps just in time and changed my website from YouTube to WebMD. Now i am just a hypochondriac. ;D
I was ALMOST caught today at work watching a typing video. I heard footsteps just in time and changed my website from YouTube to WebMD. Now i am just a hypochondriac. ;D
Some HHKB users have had commented about board sliding about, I have found a cheap fix by using some self stick 3M rubber pads I found at Michael's craft store. They are very grippy on most surfaces for less than $5 USD.
Nice blogpost Blake!That looks great!
Also, added a lil color to mine...
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I used replacement keys from Elite Keyboards for my new Leopold topre. They fit absolutely fine. No profile problem or size problem. :D
If you buy two sets, you can replace both shifts since on the 660C, both the shift keys are the same size.
In the picture, the replacement keys look a little bigger but they aren't. Trust me. They are the same and they fit absolutely perfect.
I shouldn't go on forever about how awesome this keyboard is, but it's officially been a month since I started using this FC660C. I've never been more in love with a keyboard in my life. This thing is awesome. Even when they were new, I never gave my HHKB/Realforce/Kmac/Kinesis/SSK/etc even half this much love and attention. <3 <3 <3 Not for everyone, but I'm in love. :)
The main advantages this keyboard has over the HHKB is the fact that it is cheaper, and it has dedicated arrow keys, and it has firm padding on the bottom and the keyboard doesn't slide around. I do like the sound of my HHBK more but this is really a great keyboard and well worth the money.I have an HHKB and this is still tempting to me; to be honest the only thing holding me back are the keycaps ... that windows logo would drive me nuts.
I'm so sold on this thing.. I absolutely love it!
So Jocelyn - now that you've tried both.. Topre or your Ergo Clears? ;D
I'm so sold on this thing.. I absolutely love it!
So Jocelyn - now that you've tried both.. Topre or your Ergo Clears? ;D
Yeah, I have really light Korean springs and clears on my Kmac... they're slow/weak on the reset. Not at all like the topre, which somehow is light going down, and pops wood going up. Perhaps this is where domes exceed.
Yeah, I have really light Korean springs and clears on my Kmac... they're slow/weak on the reset. Not at all like the topre, which somehow is light going down, and pops wood going up. Perhaps this is where domes exceed.
That was exactly my issue with ErgoClears! I felt like they got caught on the way up. Really distracting.
Also, any thoughts on my dip switch question??
QUESTION:
Let's just assume that the prices for the FC600C, HHKB P2, HHKB P2 Type-S are all equal. For example sake, just throwing out an arbitrary number of, $180 for any of the three keyboard models. Thus price not withstanding, which KB, IYO is the clear choice winner for compact Topre KB? Why?
There is no "clear choice winner for compact Topre KB". Each person's needs and desires are different.
QUESTION:
Let's just assume that the prices for the FC600C, HHKB P2, HHKB P2 Type-S are all equal. For example sake, just throwing out an arbitrary number of, $180 for any of the three keyboard models. Thus price not withstanding, which KB, IYO is the clear choice winner for compact Topre KB? Why?
If the Leopold featured dyesubbed PBT it would be the clear winner. However I still like that it has a metal plate and seems a bit sturdier than the HHKB. Also: dedicated arrow keys (without going Japanese like the HHKBJP) and a smart function layer (LOVE PgUp/PgDwn Home/End Fn combo with the arrow keys).
QUESTION:
Let's just assume that the prices for the FC600C, HHKB P2, HHKB P2 Type-S are all equal. For example sake, just throwing out an arbitrary number of, $180 for any of the three keyboard models. Thus price not withstanding, which KB, IYO is the clear choice winner for compact Topre KB? Why?
FC660C. Keep in mind, this is just my opinion. The layout for the 660C is just easier to use for me, doesn't make my hand hurt, and I prefer the sound of an un-silenced Topre to the Type-S.
QUESTION:
Let's just assume that the prices for the FC600C, HHKB P2, HHKB P2 Type-S are all equal. For example sake, just throwing out an arbitrary number of, $180 for any of the three keyboard models. Thus price not withstanding, which KB, IYO is the clear choice winner for compact Topre KB? Why?
daerid, you have quite a formidable collection of keyboards. I'm especially jelly of your Matias Tactile Pro.
You try getting one in Australia without paying silly shipping costs!At least you have Korea a bit closer to you. ;)
I'm so sold on this thing.. I absolutely love it!
So Jocelyn - now that you've tried both.. Topre or your Ergo Clears? ;D
Both!!! Topre feels so much smoother (like butter!!) and it leaves me wanting lighter springs in my Poker. I'm going to have to type on both for a bit longer to fully conclude, but I think I like different aspects of each and will never be able to choose one over the other.
Edit - I'd like to add that I believe the bit about me wanting lighter springs in my Poker is me being delusional lol. I'm fairly sure my brain thinks I'll get something closer to Topre by doing this, when in fact I'll only obtain a more pronounced bump, which is really nothing like Topre. That said, I'm very happy that I like both.
Btw, did you see my dip switch question above? You're probably going to think I'm crazy, but I was hoping for this.
Ctrl/Alt/Fn/Spacebar/Alt/Ctrl/Win
This should be doable with switch 2 & 3 turned on, but for some reason 2 becomes disabled when both 2 & 3 are turned on giving you this.
Ctrl/Fn/Alt/Spacebar/Alt/Ctrl/Win
It's minor, but I've already confirmed this is happening with other people's FC660Cs, and it doesn't make sense to me. I believe it was an oversight by Leopold and I'm hoping they'll fix it.
Where can I buy one of these and ship to the US? Need.
Where can I buy one of these and ship to the US? Need.
I haven't used my Cherry MX keyboards since my FC660C arrived.
I haven't used my Cherry MX keyboards since my FC660C arrived.
I have used Blues, Greens, Blacks, Reds, Clears, Ergo Clears. Just haven't had the desire to swap out the keyboard.I haven't used my Cherry MX keyboards since my FC660C arrived.
What switches have you in your MX keyboards, that you prefer Topre over them?
I haven't used my Cherry MX keyboards since my FC660C arrived.
I have used Blues, Greens, Blacks, Reds, Clears, Ergo Clears. Just haven't had the desire to swap out the keyboard.I haven't used my Cherry MX keyboards since my FC660C arrived.
What switches have you in your MX keyboards, that you prefer Topre over them?
After having this keyboard for a few weeks, I have decided topre is my switch of choice. That being said, I am looking into picking up a 55g realforce now.You will be very happy with the RF 55g 87u, I've had mine for a couple of months now & really like the 55g they feel very responsive and snappy yet non fatiguing. E.K. warns in their site that the 55g is stiff but they don't fell heavy at all to me.
you should grab a topre board, phillyI already have a 660C ordered, it's gonna be tough waiting until there back in stock! :D I guess i'll just have to get by watching youtube typing videos. I can't tell you guys how many times I've been ridiculed by friends when I'm caught watching typing test videos on youtube, haha.
My FC660C didn't come with extra WASD caps, but got a gold-plated USB cable and white LEDs. Must be a special edition.
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What colour is it usually?
And what checkboxes on the side of the keyboard box are checked?
I'm slightly wondering whether this is what the "white" option means.
What colour is it usually?
And what checkboxes on the side of the keyboard box are checked?
I'm slightly wondering whether this is what the "white" option means.
Hah! but then the other option alongside 'white' is 'black'.. My LED's are red though ;D
Looks totally awesome with white LED's - WFD I'm sure during your tear down video you show red LEDs.. you be trolling!!
I remember someone saying that they hadn't released the white version because of keycap legend printing issues or something?
Aww hell.. just release the blank versions already! :mad:
Someone should probably go and tell them that no one actually wants their cheap pad printing anyway haha
I keep Insert Lock on all the time, and the red/orange light was a tad too bright for me. (I don't like LEDs usually.) I took it apart and put a dimmish green LED on it instead. Yay!
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Elitekeyboards used to sell them individually. I guess they don't anymore...
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access#toprekeys
But regardless, I believe the enter keys are the same size for the HHKB, so any of those sets should work to replace most of the keys. I sold my HHKB before I got this key though, so I never had it on a HHKB. But I'm with you, I'd love some more ways to make it unique...
Sweet - thanks for that.
Love reaper's pic (as usual).
I am still slowly learning the HHKB layout, so blanks are out for me for a while yet.
Sweet - thanks for that.
Love reaper's pic (as usual).
I am still slowly learning the HHKB layout, so blanks are out for me for a while yet.
you should of jumped right in! I did and it took 2 weeks to get used to. It's been three years now and I couldn't be happier to know that nobody can use my keyboard!
you should grab a topre board, phillyI already have a 660C ordered, it's gonna be tough waiting until there back in stock! :D I guess i'll just have to get by watching youtube typing videos. I can't tell you guys how many times I've been ridiculed by friends when I'm caught watching typing test videos on youtube, haha.
Feels. They just don't understand. Ever since finding out about mechanical keyboards and being such an avid computer nerd, I just had to look more into them and have since been an addict.
you should grab a topre board, phillyI already have a 660C ordered, it's gonna be tough waiting until there back in stock! :D I guess i'll just have to get by watching youtube typing videos. I can't tell you guys how many times I've been ridiculed by friends when I'm caught watching typing test videos on youtube, haha.
Feels. They just don't understand. Ever since finding out about mechanical keyboards and being such an avid computer nerd, I just had to look more into them and have since been an addict.
My wife makes it her personal crusade in life to ridicule me in every way possible when watching mechanical keyboard reviews, typing videos, and or mod videos. She'll sometimes call me from inside the room, just to talk crap about my keyboard fixation....I tell her " but babe you'll understand if you try one... it is just an experience...I ended up lending her my cooler master xt with cherry browns...I have yet to receive the cm xt, what was suppose to be a couple days turned into a month. So, I have decided with one of my boards commandeered I owe it to myself to replace the gap in my soul, with a Leopold fc660c ;D :thumb: wish me luck, because I may be able to order one tonight
Some lucky bastard got it for 137 smackers!