Topre lovers, brace yourselves...

[hashbaz]

I prefer the feel of the 660 to my 45g Realforce.

[Macsmasher]

You're not exactly clear here.  How does it compare to the RF?

A bit louder and a snappier feel.  Seems to be a blend in between RF and HHKB.

I would give it a good two or three weeks of daily use before drawing any comparison conclusions. I've got a five month old 87U variable silent, a one month old HHKB Pro 2 and my 1.5 week old 55g 87U. They've all 'mellowed' over time. When I first got the 55g, I thought I had made a big mistake. It was WAY too stiff. But it's loosened up and settling into the perfect weight. Even the sound changes over time.

I'd say the 55g has changed the most out of the three boards. After three days on the 55g 87U, I was ready to sell it on the GH classifieds. But I stuck it out, and I'm so glad I did. These guys that preach the 55g gospel are right on the money.

Topre are industrial switches built for longevity. They need to break in just like a pair of good quality leather boots.

[sth]

I prefer the feel of the 660 to my 45g Realforce.

will you be bringing yours to the meetup? i'd love to try it out.

and if hashbaz lets me try a topre board i invariably end up buying one about a week later... this bodes poorly for my savings account

Topre are industrial switches built for longevity. They need to break in just like a pair of good quality leather boots.

 ) there's nothing wrong or anything with that statement... i just think it's funny to compare a keyboard to boots

[Michael]

These guys that preach the 55g gospel are right on the money.

Amen, brother.

[tjcaustin]

If this is as good as people are saying, I may get one and sell my 55g RF

[The_Beast]

Topre are industrial switches built for longevity. They need to break in just like a pair of good quality leather boots.

 ) there's nothing wrong or anything with that statement... i just think it's funny to compare a keyboard to boots

Tread carefully, this boot comment could lead to stupid shoe/keyboard pictures like reddit.......

[Michael]

If this is as good as people are saying, I may get one and sell my 55g RF

If you like 55g, you probably will not want to move back to 45g. Just sayin'....

[Macsmasher]

I prefer the feel of the 660 to my 45g Realforce.

will you be bringing yours to the meetup? i'd love to try it out.

and if hashbaz lets me try a topre board i invariably end up buying one about a week later... this bodes poorly for my savings account

Topre are industrial switches built for longevity. They need to break in just like a pair of good quality leather boots.

 ) there's nothing wrong or anything with that statement... i just think it's funny to compare a keyboard to boots

lol. Well, I like to use analogies to which most ppl can relate when trying to convey a point regarding something with which they have no experience. Just call me Mr. Helpful.   

[BlindRAGE606]

Teribad keycaps, and EK price would prob be ~$200+

[MJ45]

These guys that preach the 55g gospel are right on the money.

Amen, brother.

I too took Bro Caps and others advice on the 55g Realforce. I knew right away I made a right decision for me. Seems like the new F660c is between a 45g and 55g Realforce in feel.

[Dubsgalore]

i feel like all topre switches are extremely light..are there any heavy topres?

[Michael]

i feel like all topre switches are extremely light..are there any heavy topres?

55g is the heaviest topre switch.

[Dubsgalore]

i feel like all topre switches are extremely light..are there any heavy topres?

55g is the heaviest topre switch.

I guess i will have to wait until the nyc meetup to try topres..hopefully someone will bring a topre board

[daerid]

I guess i will have to wait until the nyc meetup to try topres..hopefully someone will bring a topre board

boost is around that area I think, he might bring one if he decides to show up.

[Macsmasher]

I thought you liked the HHKB with 45g (maybe I'm thinking of someone else). Wouldn't this be similar to that?

Type-S, yeah. But this board is plate mounted like RF's. And to me, plate mounted 45g feels mushy.

That's interesting. I've got a 1.5 month old HHKB Pro2, and I do love it. But I'd take a plate mounted RF any day over it. The RF feels and sounds more solid to me. I'd even take the RF variable over the HHKB if I had to choose only one board. I would say that the RF variable would be considered more 'mushy', if by mushy you mean less tactility. But even so, it still feels better. I must have girly fingers.

With that said, I'd take the HHKB over any Cherry board.

Caps, I can't remember if you have a 55g RF. But if mushy isn't your thing, you owe it to yourself try one. And don't be surprised if you hear angels singing from heaven while typing on one. Happens every day for me.

[blakespot]

I hear there is a group buy being setup to bring some of these into the states. If that is accurate, can someone point me in the right direction?



bp

[aggiejy]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42728

[geminimech]

It's in the interest check sub.  It's not a group buy just yet, boost was fielding levels of interest and checking on prices.

[aggiejy]

Makes for a great coffee shop keyboard! I've never really had a ~60% keyboard before except a RACE (which I got rid of quick).  I see the appeal.

[KuhnTang]

I hear there is a group buy being setup to bring some of these into the states. If that is accurate, can someone point me in the right direction?



bp

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42728.0

[daerid]

Makes for a great coffee shop keyboard! I've never really had a ~60% keyboard before except a RACE (which I got rid of quick).  I see the appeal.

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[BlindRAGE606]

Makes for a great coffee shop keyboard! I've never really had a ~60% keyboard before except a RACE (which I got rid of quick).  I see the appeal.

That giant glass of coffee flavored sugar looks UBER dangerous next to those electronics. 

I set my HHKB on top my rMBP 15" keyboard, perfect fit.

[aggiejy]

I set my HHKB on top my rMBP 15" keyboard, perfect fit.

This one fits perfectly over the 15" (and other I guess, since the keyboard is the same size for 13-17").  The feet go just outside of the keyboard.  I leave it on top if my table isn't too high.  Else, I usually have the keyboard in my lap or something.

[rknize]

Makes for a great coffee shop keyboard! I've never really had a ~60% keyboard before except a RACE (which I got rid of quick).  I see the appeal.

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Lol...my desk here at works looks exactly like that except my MBP is running Linux. 

[MJ45]

I set my HHKB on top my rMBP 15" keyboard, perfect fit.

This one fits perfectly over the 15" (and other I guess, since the keyboard is the same size for 13-17").  The feet go just outside of the keyboard.  I leave it on top if my table isn't too high.  Else, I usually have the keyboard in my lap or something.

To me the HHKB is the best 60% for laptop use, its small form factor and light weight is easy to pack in a typical 15" laptop bag or backpack. Its weight is hardly noticeable to me in my bag. Others with plate mount switches would weigh me down for on the go use it all adds up IMHO.   

[davkol]

Makes for a great coffee shop keyboard! I've never really had a ~60% keyboard before except a RACE (which I got rid of quick).  I see the appeal.

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Macbook AND Topre in coffee shop? Hipster alert!

[KuhnTang]

With a flood of topre boards hitting the market does this mean we can expect some topre GB's in the near future?

[aggiejy]

Macbook AND Topre in coffee shop? Hipster alert!

Haha, I don't think anyone would mistake this ole country boy for a hipster.

[sth]

Macbook AND Topre in coffee shop? Hipster alert!

Haha, I don't think anyone would mistake this ole country boy for a hipster.

or anybody bringing an external keyboard for a laptop, for that matter

[daerid]

Just picked mine up from boost (hella nice guy, btw). And I have to admit, I love it (typing on it right now). Definitely feels better to me than the HHKB did, and there's something magical about the sound. The "thock" is a bit higher pitched than on the RF boards. It's definitely lighter than the 55g, that's for sure, but it's still a pleasure to type on. Plus... arrow keys!!!!! This board is phenomenal. I might swoon...

[KuhnTang]

Just picked mine up from boost (hella nice guy, btw). And I have to admit, I love it (typing on it right now). Definitely feels better to me than the HHKB did, and there's something magical about the sound. The "thock" is a bit higher pitched than on the RF boards. It's definitely lighter than the 55g, that's for sure, but it's still a pleasure to type on. Plus... arrow keys!!!!! This board is phenomenal. I might swoon...

I think you're opinion of the RF is well documented.  So, knowing that, if you had to pick only one.  Which would it be?  RF or the Leo?

[boost]

Just picked mine up from boost (hella nice guy, btw). And I have to admit, I love it (typing on it right now). Definitely feels better to me than the HHKB did, and there's something magical about the sound. The "thock" is a bit higher pitched than on the RF boards. It's definitely lighter than the 55g, that's for sure, but it's still a pleasure to type on. Plus... arrow keys!!!!! This board is phenomenal. I might swoon...

Glad you like it and I'm trying to learn the hhkb layout now. Well say that the 660c has a much more crisp feel to it compared to the hhkb...hhkb bs seems weird but feels like it belongs in that position.

[Acetrak]

Don't fight it boost, you know you love it

[daerid]

Just picked mine up from boost (hella nice guy, btw). And I have to admit, I love it (typing on it right now). Definitely feels better to me than the HHKB did, and there's something magical about the sound. The "thock" is a bit higher pitched than on the RF boards. It's definitely lighter than the 55g, that's for sure, but it's still a pleasure to type on. Plus... arrow keys!!!!! This board is phenomenal. I might swoon...

I think you're opinion of the RF is well documented.  So, knowing that, if you had to pick only one.  Which would it be?  RF or the Leo?

Oh man... I don't know. That is a tough call. It really depends. I think if I had only one choice, I'd still opt for the 55g RF, by a hair.

Glad you like it and I'm trying to learn the hhkb layout now. Well say that the 660c has a much more crisp feel to it compared to the hhkb...hhkb bs seems weird but feels like it belongs in that position.

Yeah man, this thing's great. I'm still hitting alt+\ whenever I want to delete a word, because my hands still want to think that delete is right there above the enter key. Gonna take a bit to un-train the HHKB layout.

As much as I like the feel of the HHKB's lack of a plate, I have to admit that it makes the board much more solid. I tend to pound on the keys and the HHKB would wobble ever so slightly. This board has none of that. For the way I type, personally, the FC660C is absolutely the board for me.

[daerid]

On a side note (since I don't read Korean), is there English translated version of the manual anywhere? Or at the very least can somebody explain the following:

1. What does FN+Q do? I know it turns the LED under the insert key on, but what does it actually do?
2. Dip Switch 4 : No clue on this one.

Thanks!

[rknize]

1) It's back-tick-lock (or anti-Esc lock).  The way they did Esc is pretty awesome for a UNIX user.  It's Esc by default, but Shift+Esc gives you tilde no matter what.  Fn+Esc gives you back-tick.  Setting anti-Esc lock inverts everything so that Fn+Esc is now Esc but Shift+Esc and Shift+Fn+Esc are all still tilde.  I will definitely be setting up my GH60 this way.

2) Don't know either.

[kelske]

2. Dip Switch 4 : No clue on this one.

According to Acetrak's review it looks like switch 4 enables/disables Winkey

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42825.0

[ktownhero]

1) It's back-tick-lock (or anti-Esc lock).  The way they did Esc is pretty awesome for a UNIX user.  It's Esc by default, but Shift+Esc gives you tilde no matter what.  Fn+Esc gives you back-tick.  Setting anti-Esc lock inverts everything so that Fn+Esc is now Esc but Shift+Esc and Shift+Fn+Esc are all still tilde.  I will definitely be setting up my GH60 this way.

2) Don't know either.

That's really awesome to know.  I tend to use tilde regularly to change case in Vi but I essentially never use back tick.  ESC default while preserving stock tilde functionality is genius!

[vivalarevolución]

Omg these reviews are creating some serious keyboard envy.

[daerid]

Ok that explains things, thanks.

Yeah, the only time I use backtick honestly is when writing code in Markdown. I tend to use $() instead of `` in bash anyways, so the way they handled the ~/` situation is fantastic. Wish the HHKB had done that.

[aggiejy]

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1) It's back-tick-lock (or anti-Esc lock).  The way they did Esc is pretty awesome for a UNIX user.  It's Esc by default, but Shift+Esc gives you tilde no matter what.  Fn+Esc gives you back-tick.  Setting anti-Esc lock inverts everything so that Fn+Esc is now Esc but Shift+Esc and Shift+Fn+Esc are all still tilde.  I will definitely be setting up my GH60 this way.

2) Don't know either.

Yeah, I realized that I use Cmd-` a lot on the Mac (switches between windows/instances of the same application)... this is a great feature.

[flacman]

Just picked mine up from boost (hella nice guy, btw). And I have to admit, I love it (typing on it right now). Definitely feels better to me than the HHKB did, and there's something magical about the sound. The "thock" is a bit higher pitched than on the RF boards. It's definitely lighter than the 55g, that's for sure, but it's still a pleasure to type on. Plus... arrow keys!!!!! This board is phenomenal. I might swoon...

That's it. I'm buying one as soon as I have the money / PC Case Gear launches it in Australia.

[rowdy]

PCCG sometimes seems a bit hit and miss with what they stock - only some Ducky keyboards for example.  RealForce 87U only in white but 104U in black and white.

[flacman]

PCCG sometimes seems a bit hit and miss with what they stock - only some Ducky keyboards for example.  RealForce 87U only in white but 104U in black and white.

Well on their Facebook page, they did say they were looking into the FC660C - so there could be a possibility for local availability.

[calavera]

I've had it for a few days now and I love it but two cons for me personally:

1. Need to use both hands to use function row F1 and F2. I can only reach as far as F3. Small hands FTL.
2. Print on key caps are somewhat inconsistent or they're already show signs of wear. A, S, D in particular. (gonna replace them with topre RF dye subs though)

I'm still debating if I should sell mine, because typing on them is fking awesome.

[Halverson]

I've had it for a few days now and I love it but two cons for me personally:

1. Need to use both hands to use function row F1 and F2. I can only reach as far as F3. Small hands FTL.
2. Print on key caps are somewhat inconsistent or they're already show signs of wear. A, S, D in particular. (gonna replace them with topre RF dye subs though)

I'm still debating if I should sell mine, because typing on them is fking awesome.

Hey cal, would you say the print looks the same as my JIS topre caps I showed you?

[calavera]

Can you link the pics? I usually delete old PM's.

[Halverson]

Can you link the pics? I usually delete old PM's.

Ah pics were in my previous sale thread. Just wondering if the legends were gold-ish colour.

[calavera]

Hard to describe color.

[Halverson]

Hard to describe color.

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Hmmm the legends look lighter.
Would you say they feel smooth, or kind of scratchy like general pad print?