Author Topic: Poker DIY kit - EXCLUSIVELY AVAILABLE AT GEEKHACK ! ! ! (Read 80518 times)

Djuzuh · « **Reply #200 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 08:28:38 »

Yes they are pcb mounted and plate mounted.

Mouser probably carries the pcb mounted switch only, which is a bit cheaper.

mkawa · « **Reply #201 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 08:33:25 »

the switches listed are probably pcb mount switches, as the poker PCB has the pcb-mount fixation holes. however, the plate can be used with the pcb mount switches.

last someone checked, mouser had pretty limited stock, in that they have fewer switch varieties and they have very few on hand.

green are blues with stiffer springs. light grey are clears with stiffer springs iirc. check the MX switch wiki

mosrael · « **Reply #202 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 11:13:57 »

I apologize if this has already been answered elsewhere in the thread and I overlooked it, but did we ever get a solid answer on whether the plate kits were up for sale by themselves?

metafour · « **Reply #203 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 11:26:52 »

Quote from: mosrael;599927

I apologize if this has already been answered elsewhere in the thread and I overlooked it, but did we ever get a solid answer on whether the plate kits were up for sale by themselves?

The first post seems to indicate the plate is available for $11.

Don't remember if anyone mentioned if the plate can be added to existing Pokers though.

mosrael · « **Reply #204 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 11:42:44 »

Oh yeah, well, I expect it's just a matter of desoldering the switches, mounting them, and resoldering the whole board, which is no big deal. As long as I can buy one without the rest of the kit!

metafour · « **Reply #205 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 11:45:28 »

That's my question though, do you need to desolder all the switches or can you just pop the plate on?

mkawa · « **Reply #206 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 11:45:35 »

actually, you don't need to desolder the switches to plate an existing unplated poker. you will need to desolder the LEDs, but that's it.

alaricljs · « **Reply #207 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 11:47:25 »

Well, take off the switch tops too and try not to lose any parts

mosrael · « **Reply #208 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 11:56:04 »

I was gonna experiment with taking off the switch tops and mounting the plate that way, rather than desoldering. Good to hear that'll work.

tadbitnerdy · « **Reply #209 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 12:15:42 »

So can these two things be confirmed? I really want to make sure before I buy a plate (just like everybody else)

1. Can I buy a plate buy itself?
2. Can the plate be mounted to an pre-built Poker without desoldering the switches/LEDs?

Thanks,

-Tad

alaricljs · « **Reply #210 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 12:26:49 »

The answer to #2 is directly above your post. The answer to #1 ultimately comes from iMav, but as it's a separately listed item with it's own price I'm inclined to expect that you can order it alone. iMav's order to them is hardly going to contain info on who ordered what, just a list of parts and quantity, then he gets to sort it out on his end and send it to you.

iMav · « **Reply #211 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 12:29:37 »

Seperately listed items can be ordered seperately.

tadbitnerdy · « **Reply #212 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 16:22:01 »

PM and payment sent. Yay!

Loligagger · « **Reply #213 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 19:37:32 »

You can use the stock poker stabilizers with the plate mount right? Even if you took the top off, how would you push the plate mount past the four lips on the corners of each switch?

tadbitnerdy · « **Reply #214 on:** Fri, 25 May 2012, 19:41:48 »

From what I've seen, all you need to do is desolder the 7 LEDs. Then remove the tops of all the switches, place the plate, reattach the tops of the switches, and solder the LEDs back on. I'm assuming the stabilizers will work because this is a plate made for the Poker. Hopefully my assumption is correct.

-Tad

__red__ · « **Reply #215 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 14:24:00 »

Newbie question. Why the obsession with plate mounting?

Djuzuh · « **Reply #216 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 14:26:36 »

easier to clean, looks less messy, people like myself who haven't a lot of electronic experience are afraid to break a pcb plate.

mkawa · « **Reply #217 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 20:12:35 »

pcb flex is the ban of the poker's existence

__red__ · « **Reply #218 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 20:33:17 »

So I assume that if you have a plate you also have a pcb? ie, you don't do wire-wrap or point to point circuitry?

Djuzuh · « **Reply #219 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 20:35:22 »

yes.

the plate goes in the middle of the switch, but the switch is still soldered to the PCB.

__red__ · « **Reply #220 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 20:41:55 »

Time to see if I can find a service who will cut square holes in metal plate :-)

Djuzuh · « **Reply #221 on:** Sat, 26 May 2012, 20:44:37 »

Don't forget to write a wiki article once you've find a service and tested it out please

jcrouse · « **Reply #222 on:** Mon, 28 May 2012, 20:30:02 »

@iMav ... How do we add extra items, another stabalizer set or mounting plate (or switches), to an existing order?

Thanks,
John

Icarium · « **Reply #223 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 07:34:58 »

I'd rather not count so can anybody tell me how many switches I should order for the entire board?

EDIT: Found the answer in some other post: 61 switches

EDIT:
Earlier in the thread somebody complained about this being as expensive as a fully assembled Poker but those don't come with aluminium casings, do they?
>> Was answered in this way somewhere else as well.

dorkvader · « **Reply #224 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 10:14:47 »

This is a lot more expensive than a normal fully assembled poker, but as far as I know it's the only place you can get official aluminium cases for them.

So it's worth it if you like DIY and want an aluminium case for your poker.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #225 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 10:21:09 »

Quote from: dorkvader;603875

This is a lot more expensive than a normal fully assembled poker, but as far as I know it's the only place you can get official aluminium cases for them.

So it's worth it if you like DIY and want an aluminium case for your poker.

Is the "official" aluminum case for the Pure not the same as this?

iMav · « **Reply #226 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 11:02:16 »

FYI, this group buy ends at the end of the month (as per VorTex's request). I have absolutely no idea if we will ever offer this again.

mkawa · « **Reply #227 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 12:03:20 »

this is your chance to get pokers, people. switches are plentiful right now so order up!

yearn4 · « **Reply #228 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 14:22:23 »

are there any soldering experts that are willing to offer their services?

jcrouse · « **Reply #229 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 14:23:17 »

Quote from: 4en;604057

are there any soldering experts that are willing to offer their services?

Read the thread. There are many options.

Loligagger · « **Reply #230 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 18:28:07 »

If anyone doesn't want the second PCB I'll buy it from them.

mkawa · « **Reply #231 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 18:47:34 »

Quote from: 4en;604057

are there any soldering experts that are willing to offer their services?

have switches, want pcb, will solder (!!)

yearn4 · « **Reply #232 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 19:14:15 »

hey imav so your paypal address is LITERALLY "me@imav.org"?

alaricljs · « **Reply #233 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 19:16:28 »

Why not? Mine is me@ ok... one of mine.

yearn4 · « **Reply #234 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 19:50:15 »

ahh where's mkawa

alaricljs · « **Reply #235 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 19:50:52 »

Round abouts the west coast

mkawa · « **Reply #236 on:** Wed, 30 May 2012, 19:57:25 »

i'm socal. always happy to solder things up for people, but promptness isn't my greatest strength at the moment. might be best for me to offer a soldering service within an uncertain timeframe for free in exchange for a pcb

postlapsaetia · « **Reply #237 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 00:09:54 »

Paid & pm'd

rhune · « **Reply #238 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 14:18:23 »

Put in an order for the plate

jblack801 · « **Reply #239 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 16:19:49 »

stoked for a plate, not stoked to desolder my current poker.

whiskerBox · « **Reply #240 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 16:25:10 »

Quote from: jblack801;604904

stoked for a plate, not stoked to desolder my current poker.

+1 :rofl:

It wont be that bad, at least its not a 104.

jblack801 · « **Reply #241 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 16:51:47 »

Quote from: whiskerBox;604908

+1 :rofl:

It wont be that bad, at least its not a 104.

I'm not too worried, I'll just need to get a solder wick or something. Very true 104 wouldn't be as entertaining, it'll get me ready for the ErgoDox keyboard though.

metafour · « **Reply #242 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 16:53:03 »

I thought it was already stated that you only need to desolder the leds to put the plate on?

WRXChris · « **Reply #243 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 17:09:18 »

I'm going to be throwing in a last minute order for at least a plate and set of stabilizers, but I'm so tempted to buy a kit!!! Just not sure I can justify it with 2 pokers already and intent to buy a pure... I guess this is what they call first-world problems, lol.

jblack801 · « **Reply #244 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 18:04:13 »

Quote from: metafour;604952

I thought it was already stated that you only need to desolder the leds to put the plate on?

It appears to have been clarified. Thanks for pointing out my failure to read previous posts. :sorry:

Loligagger · « **Reply #245 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 18:06:35 »

Quote from: metafour;604952

I thought it was already stated that you only need to desolder the leds to put the plate on?

These bits in red get in the way if you just take the top of the switch off (the plate needs to go under them in other words). Unless there's some way I'm missing to push the plate under these they'll need to be desoldered.

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WRXChris · « **Reply #246 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 18:30:46 »

Quote from: Loligagger;605049

These bits in red get in the way if you just take the top of the switch off (the plate needs to go under them in other words). Unless there's some way I'm missing to push the plate under these they'll need to be desoldered.

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You're right, they will all have to be desoldered. I just finished modding a filco to ergo clears, and can confirm that the plate must be in between the pcb and switches, and there is no way to squeeze the plate over the switches after they are soldered to the pcb.

The red highlights in Loligagger's picture rest on top of the plate. They are on the bottom section of the switch, so taking the top of the switch off will not get them out of the way and hence you can't slip the plate past them.

This make me lean towards wanting to buy a kit now... desoldering sucks with cheap equipment.

metafour · « **Reply #247 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 20:30:12 »

Quote from: metafour;599965

That's my question though, do you need to desolder all the switches or can you just pop the plate on?

Quote from: mkawa;599966

actually, you don't need to desolder the switches to plate an existing unplated poker. you will need to desolder the LEDs, but that's it.

Quote from: alaricljs;599967

Well, take off the switch tops too and try not to lose any parts

Quote from: Loligagger;605049

These bits in red get in the way if you just take the top of the switch off (the plate needs to go under them in other words). Unless there's some way I'm missing to push the plate under these they'll need to be desoldered.

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Bought two plates today. FML =\

tadbitnerdy · « **Reply #248 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 20:37:28 »

Oh well, guess I'll use this to hone my skills.

alaricljs · « **Reply #249 on:** Thu, 31 May 2012, 23:00:13 »

Apologies on that one, I shall do penance by going to bed early so I can get that much needed sleep for my brain to function

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