[IC] TMOv2 50% keyboard

[funderburker]

TMOv2 INTEREST CHECK



Hi everyone!

It's been bit over a year since TMO50 group buy happened. Ever since that time I've been thinking about running it again. I couldn't but I really wanted to.
People have asked me privately and publicly about if and when R2 would be happening and the only real answer was that something WILL happen! So here it is!
TMOv2

Design choices

Year in our community is a long time in terms of design trends. Mounting types, material options for cases and plates, colourways, switches, even layouts.
TMOv2 was inspired by both older boards and newer trends alike to accompany the current design language yet still paying homage to those keyboards that started it all.
Keeping the same signature layout, thin bezels and front lip from TMO50 was a priority since the start.





Features

• 100% base kit compatible (*)
• QMK compatible USB-C PCB, designed by Upas
• 22(!) underglow RGB LEDs
• Top mount construction
• 7 degree typing angle
• Brass weight

(*) - Most GMK and EPBT keyset base kits

Layout & key mapping

Thinking about TMO50s huge cutout in the middle row, we knew there must be a better way. Looking over the idea that TMO50 is a "base kit compatible" sub60% I must admit it was only 96% true.
Either you go with off-stagger and have two 1.5u mods in the middle that aren't the correct profile or you go with regular stagger and still have a 1.25u mod that's not the right profile.
By making TMOv2 layout only 0.5u wider it becomes a 100% "base kit compatible" sub60% with regular stagger and correct profile keycaps on all 50 keys!



TMO is all about YOU making it your own. From keysets to artisans to keymapping. With QMK you're encouraged to make TMOv2 fit your typing style. Stock keymapping is only there to be a sane "default" and it's the one I've been using daily.



Included in the base kit

• Keyboard case (Aluminium OR Polycarbonate)
• Keyboard plate (Sandblasted brass)
• Weight (Sandblasted brass)
• TMOv2 USB-C PCB, designed by Upas
• Plate and case screws
• 3M rubber bumpon feet
• TMO stickers
• "Frog on a log" artisan by SPARKLE PONY (Exclusive to US Polycarbonate case orders)

Add-ons

You'll have the option to order:

• extra PCBs,
• plates (Sandblasted brass & tranlsucent clear polycarbonate),
• translucent clear bottoms

Case colours

Going with "what's in" right now we think that these colours fit most keysets out there. Please keep in mind that a photo/render/Pantone code won't be 100% exact IRL colormatch and there can be slight difference.

• E-White
• Dark gray
• Blue gray
• Red
• Translucent clear PC
• Translucent smoky(*) PC

(*) - Smoky PC will be darker
** - For some aluminium colour (red, blue gray) examples refer to Equinox.

Some more shots of the board









All renders
All CAD screenshots

Information about group buy

GB date: November
Pricing: TBA

Vendors:
USA - CannonKeys > FCFS (100 units, 65 Aluminium/35 Polycarbonate)
EU - MyKeyboard > TBD

Thanks to

• Upas for being the initial push to re-start this project, the amazing work on PCB design and being my "partner-in-crime"
• Abec13 for all the renders and great case/keyset combos
• RealLaugh and Vegs for being the best bros I could ask for
• SPARKLE PONY for the wonderful artisans
• BunnyLake for the logo and the support way way back in 2017/2018
• Everyone who's shared their TMO50 build logs and photos with me or has shown interest in owning one

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[ChrisSwires]

:eyes:

[funderburker]

UPDATES

07.10.2019

• Started IC
• Waiting on case/plate/weight prototypes from the factory
• Testing prototype PCB
• Added photos of "Frog on a log" artisan by SPARKLE PONY

08.10.2019

• Change to "Add-ons" section - included translucent clear polycarbonate bottom as an option

09.10.2019

• Prototypes arrived! Photo session over the weekend. Minor case changes will be made for production units
• PCB tested & everything works, we good to go

13.10.2019

• Prototype photoshoot happened. Check here

22.10.2019

• GB date announcement - November 2nd! Check here

FAQ

• Is TMOv2 compatible with TMO50? > No, they're completely different boards.
• Plate files? > Yes, plate DXF files will be open-sourced during the GB phase.
• Weight files? > Yes, weight DXF files will be open-sourced during the GB phase.
• Please add indicator lights! > Sorry but given time-frame till GB there's no way to add that in.
• Alps support? > No, TMOv2 is not Alps switch compatible.

[xondat]

HERE WE GO BOYS TMO50 layout is the greatest thing ever let me tell you sir. First of all class ic inspirations on the HHKB blocker style IT also has the ; and ' kjeys unless other competitors in the 40% space which I find completely unreplaceable in layers it also has extra keys for macros (read: artisans- I absolutely love the layout where you have numbers/!@#$%^ that replace qwerty it means i can type for long periods of time wihtout twisting my hands at all whereas on a normal board you ahve to twist your wrists sometimes to type for me I just have to hold down left space and click asdf to get to numbers It's also just gorgeous IMO Ano quality is good, engraving is good, I like how he made it so you can buy a 40% sized board/layout but not need to buy 40% sized modifiers for your keyboard so you can use base kits and uh yeah that's it That's why TMO50 is my every day board I literally am typing on it right now and have used it every single day at work for the last 4 months 0 inftention to ever stop

I mean it's happening

[qriousgabriel]

I’M IN!

[Quriosity]

Same

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[HoodrowThrillson]

Oh yes

[Visionaire]

HYPE

[Acereconkeys]

AHHHHHH **** HERE WE GO BOYS

[Veiox]

HERE WE GO BOYS TMO50 layout is the greatest thing ever let me tell you sir. First of all class ic inspirations on the HHKB blocker style IT also has the ; and ' kjeys unless other competitors in the 40% space which I find completely unreplaceable in layers it also has extra keys for macros (read: artisans- I absolutely love the layout where you have numbers/!@#$%^ that replace qwerty it means i can type for long periods of time wihtout twisting my hands at all whereas on a normal board you ahve to twist your wrists sometimes to type for me I just have to hold down left space and click asdf to get to numbers It's also just gorgeous IMO Ano quality is good, engraving is good, I like how he made it so you can buy a 40% sized board/layout but not need to buy 40% sized modifiers for your keyboard so you can use base kits and uh yeah that's it That's why TMO50 is my every day board I literally am typing on it right now and have used it every single day at work for the last 4 months 0 inftention to ever stop

I am so in

[Uryftw]

Definitely interested

[Slash Emperor]

Missed the first time around, hoping I can get on it this time. That smoky PC looks HOT.

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[trg1234]

HEWE WE GO BOYS TMO50 wayout is the gweatest thing evew wet me teww you siw. Fiwst of aww cwass ic inspiwations on the HHKB bwockew stywe IT awso has the ; and ‘ kjeys unwess othew competitows in the 40% space which I find compwetewy unwepwaceabwe in wayews it awso has extwa keys fow macwos (wead: awtisans- I absowutewy wuv the wayout whewe you have nyumbews/ owo @#$%^ that wepwace qwewty it means i can type fow wong pewiods of time wihtout twisting my hands at aww wheweas on a nyowmaw boawd you ahve to twist youw wwists sometimes to type fow me I just have to howd down weft space and cwick asdf to get to nyumbews It’s awso just gowgeous IMO Anyo quawity is good, engwaving is good, I wike how he made it so you can buy a 40% sized boawd/wayout but nyot nyeed to buy 40% sized modifiews fow youw keyboawd so you can use base kits and uh yeah that’s it That’s why TMO50 is my evewy day boawd I witewawwy am typing on it wight nyow and have used it evewy singwe day at wowk fow the wast 4 months 0 inftention to evew stop.

 

[bisoromi]

HERE WE GO BOYS

[Lormania]

Been waiting for this!

[janglad]

Yes

[click clack jack]

Oh **** this is hype

[Mcnos]

Yes please.

[Zambumon]

HERE WE GO BOYS TMO50 layout is the greatest thing ever let me tell you sir. First of all class ic inspirations on the HHKB blocker style IT also has the ; and ' kjeys unless other competitors in the 40% space which I find completely unreplaceable in layers it also has extra keys for macros (read: artisans- I absolutely love the layout where you have numbers/!@#$%^ that replace qwerty it means i can type for long periods of time wihtout twisting my hands at all whereas on a normal board you ahve to twist your wrists sometimes to type for me I just have to hold down left space and click asdf to get to numbers It's also just gorgeous IMO Ano quality is good, engraving is good, I like how he made it so you can buy a 40% sized board/layout but not need to buy 40% sized modifiers for your keyboard so you can use base kits and uh yeah that's it That's why TMO50 is my every day board I literally am typing on it right now and have used it every single day at work for the last 4 months 0 inftention to ever stop

[XtReeM1337n355]

Awesome, but that really sucks to see there’s only 100 available.. I feel like someone is going to bot purchase these boards

[orim23]

finally a 40% board with all the bracket keys. that way its actually useable.

[RealLaugh]

Jeeeeez am I exited for this one

[victorpre]

Please, bring 100 units to EU also!

Would love to have a chance to join

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[Atlantic]

HERE WE GO BOYS TMO50 layout is the greatest thing ever let me tell you sir. First of all class ic inspirations on the HHKB blocker style IT also has the ; and ' kjeys unless other competitors in the 40% space which I find completely unreplaceable in layers it also has extra keys for macros (read: artisans- I absolutely love the layout where you have numbers/!@#$%^ that replace qwerty it means i can type for long periods of time wihtout twisting my hands at all whereas on a normal board you ahve to twist your wrists sometimes to type for me I just have to hold down left space and click asdf to get to numbers It's also just gorgeous IMO Ano quality is good, engraving is good, I like how he made it so you can buy a 40% sized board/layout but not need to buy 40% sized modifiers for your keyboard so you can use base kits and uh yeah that's it That's why TMO50 is my every day board I literally am typing on it right now and have used it every single day at work for the last 4 months 0 inftention to ever stop

[ubmit]

100 EU units please!

I'd love to get one!

[ABrotherThatIsUndercover]

Yes, Gimme.

[ttom]

can't wait 

[gasp]

I'll take ten, ty

[kconfire]

I'm so in.

Let's git it!

[SeedyOne]

Think I'm in this time around 

[terrad]

HYPEEEE!

+1 for 100 EU units.

[Kellybear]

The v2 is beautiful, Emils. I'm really excited for this and I can't wait for more people to have TMOs!!

[The_Royal]

The Legends foretold of this sacred day.
Excited for this to come back finally!

But one thing I have to ask. If you are going for that “Base Kit Compatibility”, Why not just increase it .5u more and go for Actual “Base Kit compatibility”?

It’s a small detail but it just seems so blasphemous to have every legend be a “correct” one with A Base kit.

But You would still have to buy a 40’s kit for that 1.75u Enter.

[heycheeeno]

As one of those lucky enough to get one of the spares from Rnd 1, It's awesome to see this run again!

[The_Royal]

Also, does V2 also drop the little LED cluster?

[tentboy]

Me want

[kiwi99]

would you consider making it fullsized and a completely different layout?





jk good luck with it!

[The_Royal]

would you consider making it fullsized and a completely different layout?


jk good luck with it!

Classic Sub-60 IC.

[KeebsAndTrees]

I'll be on the lookout for this!

Colorado Mech Meets

[Kellybear]

HEWE WE GO BOYS TMO50 wayout is the gweatest thing evew wet me teww you siw. Fiwst of aww cwass ic inspiwations on the HHKB bwockew stywe IT awso has the ; and ‘ kjeys unwess othew competitows in the 40% space which I find compwetewy unwepwaceabwe in wayews it awso has extwa keys fow macwos (wead: awtisans- I absowutewy wuv the wayout whewe you have nyumbews/ owo @#$%^ that wepwace qwewty it means i can type fow wong pewiods of time wihtout twisting my hands at aww wheweas on a nyowmaw boawd you ahve to twist youw wwists sometimes to type fow me I just have to howd down weft space and cwick asdf to get to nyumbews It’s awso just gowgeous IMO Anyo quawity is good, engwaving is good, I wike how he made it so you can buy a 40% sized boawd/wayout but nyot nyeed to buy 40% sized modifiews fow youw keyboawd so you can use base kits and uh yeah that’s it That’s why TMO50 is my evewy day boawd I witewawwy am typing on it wight nyow and have used it evewy singwe day at wowk fow the wast 4 months 0 inftention to evew stop.

 

This was my favorite one LOL

[walletburner]

nice, pumped for this.

[snelltrail]

Oh hell yes! Been waiting for R2 of this! Consider me in!!

[Abec13]

Like you even have to check interest for this.

[konstantin]

I'd like to see a 2.75u–2.25u split space option alongside the existing 2.25u–2.75u. Like a lot of people, I hit the spacebar with my left thumb and thus would like the left key to be larger.

[MikeTheTiger]

Dat polycarb tho.

[NoxNoxNox]

Not going to lie, I was in as soon as I saw the PC render.

[Dumble_Hub]

Will this also be ALPS compatible like v1?

[hahihuhei]

Also, does V2 also drop the little LED cluster?

Would like to know this too, definitely interested 

[cijanzen]

Yep

[Niahi]

Please.

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[thornkin]

Excited for this. I like the idea of a 40%, but I don't relish the missing symbol keys.

[skrunk]

Amazing! Hopefully I can pick one up!

[trg1234]

Because the cap facing renders were kinda hidden away in a link I did not notice. After I saw them I think I would really prefer v1 layout over the 60% cap compatibility even at the cost of compatibility.

[hahihuhei]

Because the cap facing renders were kinda hidden away in a link I did not notice. After I saw them I think I would really prefer v1 layout over the 60% cap compatibility even at the cost of compatibility.

I think v1 looks more symmetric too

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[dexie]

I am sooo in. Buy local!

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[pixelpusher]

I love the layout and the renders look great.  Sad the indicator LEDs are gone, but I appreciate the extra width for compatibility.

[Ashardalon]

Aaaaand here's the thread I've been waiting for. 100% in, and maybe even for a second.

[sleepy]

hell yes. my favorite ever keyboard is back! i LOVE the rounded corners. so excited for this and all the pics you've been posting in discord!!! best of luck Emils and as always let me know if ya need any help 

[BobCarltheThird]

Looks like Funderburker forgot to throw an image of the frog up as a link so I'll just post it here. Also these things are fingerprint magnets.

[dr_unconscionable]

Heck yes so excited

[saesh]

Definitely interested!

+1 for 100 EU units.

[vegs]

[orim23]

Definitely interested!

+1 for 100 EU units.

+1
or just more units in general!

[otanishock]

Wew... Time to dust up the fcfs game 

[voight-kampff]

cool

[Karni]

im in. may luck be on my side

[funderburker]

It looks like TMOv2 reception has gone well so far. Pfu, that's great to see! Thank you for the memes and great responses!

I'll try and not quote each message and just reply to most of them in one bigger message from time to time.

For those who'd like to follow along on Discord and/or chat more about it with others - there's a channel for TMOv2 on CannonKeys server.

Then on to some questions that I've seen here:

• Alps support - No. There wasn't a single Alps TMO50 built that I know of.
• Symmetry - It's still there. Blockers are symmetric as R3 and R4 is. Only the top row isn't.
• Base kit compatibility - sub60% layout still may require 40's kit to get right legends but TMOv2 aims to give you all profile correct keycaps. Also not all 40% kits hit MOQ.
• Indicator LED cluster - I didn't find a use for it on my TMO50 so sorry
• 2.75u/2.25u split-space - we'll see if that's possible but given there's a whooping 22 RGB LEDs around the perimeter of the PCB this split-space configuration may be not doable

Thank you for the support guys.

[Tyson]

HERE WE GO BOYS TMO50 layout is the greatest thing ever let me tell you sir. First of all class ic inspirations on the HHKB blocker style IT also has the ; and ' kjeys unless other competitors in the 40% space which I find completely unreplaceable in layers it also has extra keys for macros (read: artisans- I absolutely love the layout where you have numbers/!@#$%^ that replace qwerty it means i can type for long periods of time wihtout twisting my hands at all whereas on a normal board you ahve to twist your wrists sometimes to type for me I just have to hold down left space and click asdf to get to numbers It's also just gorgeous IMO Ano quality is good, engraving is good, I like how he made it so you can buy a 40% sized board/layout but not need to buy 40% sized modifiers for your keyboard so you can use base kits and uh yeah that's it That's why TMO50 is my every day board I literally am typing on it right now and have used it every single day at work for the last 4 months 0 inftention to ever stop

Great Board! Looking forward to this one!

[Taeha Types]

Please let me in

[Koatl]

Want

[GarrettSucks]

Oof those corners are getting me all hot and sweating. 

[HamKenobi]

Sign me the fk upppppp

[GarrettSucks]

Just a thought.

If youre going to offer a full space option, should it not be 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 to make it nice and symmetrical?

Obviously if someone is using full space, they don't care as much about functionality.

Just a thought. Id prefer it that way personally.

[pixelpusher]

I understand that some people might not need the indicator leds and I can live with that.  They are vital to me on my minivan.  I use the left space bar as a function key or backspace most of the time. However, a double tap on the right control turns it into a normal space bar for gaming.  the indicator comes on to let me know i'm good for gaming.  I use another indicator to let me know that I am tying numbers.  When I hold down my number function modifier, that led comes on.  It's just something that helped me learn to type on a 40% board faster.   

[cemoon]

Please bring the LED cluster back.
It's simply just so beautiful with it on the board.

[Xerpocalypse]

Please bring the LED cluster back.
It's simply just so beautiful with it on the board.

+1

Good lord I hope I can afford this come November.

[lolafineday]

So hard to choose a color... gonna end up with one of the polycarb versions..

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[gabbbe]

In!


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[consumer]

Agree with @pixelpusher. The LEDS are a great help for me also using the MiniVan to know which layer I’m in. Sometimes I thought the keys were not registering when in fact I’ve locked myself in a separate games layer. Just a great option to have.


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[terrad]

Just a thought.

If youre going to offer a full space option, should it not be 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 to make it nice and symmetrical?

Obviously if someone is using full space, they don't care as much about functionality.

Just a thought. Id prefer it that way personally.

Now that you mention it. I think it would look really nice! +1

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[Master_Zebra]

Just a thought.

If youre going to offer a full space option, should it not be 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 to make it nice and symmetrical?

Obviously if someone is using full space, they don't care as much about functionality.

Just a thought. Id prefer it that way personally.

+1. Really like the symmetrical look

[BobCarltheThird]

So hard to choose a color... gonna end up with one of the polycarb versions..

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Polycarbonate goes with everything after all 

[macclack]

OMG yes

[Mechalomania]

The original TMO was one of the first keyboards that got me interested in the hobby due to its aesthetics.  Even if it may not be practical for everyone, I felt that the LED cluster was a really nice, eye-catching detail that made it stand out (and others have mentioned that it can come in handy for layers).  If it doesn't make it this round, I hope it makes the next one.   I'm excited to see the upcoming builds!

[audax989]

wooo in for some latvian candy

[nguyenhimself]

So, just a question (not asking you to change the board):
What about a second column on the right side?
I personally think it would look better that way.
But maybe people are just not that into symmetry like me?
Crappy Photoshop hack-job below with an R1 pic.

[hahihuhei]

So, just a question (not asking you to change the board):
What about a second column on the right side?
I personally think it would look better that way.
But maybe people are just not that into symmetry like me?
Crappy Photoshop hack-job below with an R1 pic.

Hmm,
I would say if you that "B" in qwerty layout as the center,
the V1 actually is more symmetrical?

[Aerizu]

In for a red one!

[heyjaykay]

Considering a vendor for Asia?

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[funderburker]

Hey guys!

It's that time of the day when I'll reply to some of your messages.

Thanks for the opinion Dixie and I value your input!
For others - I've discussed this with Dixie before writing this message. Just want to make it clear that I'm not judging Dixie's sense of design (and we all know he's a God).

I get that it'd look more symmetrical but practicality still is better over looks. I understand that a 6.25u spacebar configuration isn't the most pleasing to look at but it's the only one you'd actually be able to use effectively. If you go with a 1.5u / 7u / 1.5u bottom row you have what sort of keymapping? Something like Alt / Space / Win? It could work but given that Control would be on the left side, you'd have to do something like Ctrl+Win+arrow key combo while trying to press Fn+L+Win with your right. Kinda funky ain't it?
It means sacrificing real functionality just to get a certain "look". Looks are important but there's a fine line between going all-out or keeping it practical.

---

Regarding the LED indicators. Some of you make valid points that you'd like to have a layer indicator. But given we have a certain timeframe for the GB we (I & Upas) wouldn't like to risk setting a later GB date by re-doing PCB and case design. These changes would mean some re-routing, double-checking and ordering a new batch of test PCBs that Upas and I would then need to solder. And then order new case prototype which would against cost us time and money to do.
What we can suggest is offer a clear polycarbonate option as an extra so people can program their underglow LEDs to change color for some sort of layer indication.

---

nguyenhimself - thanks for the input but I don't like it. Symmetry or not but it's not the look I'd go for. TMO has a specific layout that I'd like to keep the way it is. Would like to add that an approximate GB time has been set so making big changes like you would suggest isn't an easy task.

---

Audax, we can arrange something if you want them so bad!

[Peiweisgreat]

Guess I will have to hope for the v3 to get those indicator LEDs again, still one of my favorite smaller boards in terms of looks and usability though. You won't need much luck with the GB, but cheers on another round of a great board.

[consumer]

Guess I will have to hope for the v3 to get those indicator LEDs again, still one of my favorite smaller boards in terms of looks and usability though. You won't need much luck with the GB, but cheers on another round of a great board.

Me too. LED indicators are a must as I don’t think I can type efficiently without on the smaller board. Fingers crossed for the next version.


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[Nvmbra]

+1 for 100 units for EU and 2.75-2.25u split space

I'd also rather see black instead of grey agan for colors on this run.

[saesh]

Do I see it right that the 22 underglow LEDs are only usable with the polycarbonate version? All other versions are fully closed aluminum cases right?

[funderburker]

Do I see it right that the 22 underglow LEDs are only usable with the polycarbonate version? All other versions are fully closed aluminum cases right?

Yes but you will have the option to get an extra translucent clear bottom as an add-on if you go for an aluminium case.

+1 for 100 units for EU and 2.75-2.25u split space

I'd also rather see black instead of grey agan for colors on this run.

Please refer to this post where I answer the split space situation.

[cemoon]

Guess I will have to hope for the v3 to get those indicator LEDs again, still one of my favorite smaller boards in terms of looks and usability though. You won't need much luck with the GB, but cheers on another round of a great board.

Me too, finger crossed for those leds

[_rubik]

For the right price, that polycarb is an instant buy.

[Owl-]

I really prefer the v1 variant that had the shorter 0.5u width. That small amount made that highly admired extra compact fit that comes in par with a regular 60%. Keycaps were very approachable with most gmk 40s kit. The most reluctant key was an R3 1.25 ctrl. Moulds for it exist but not enough usage/demand, a few gmk kits had it, but that was the only tiny thing about it that's tedious.

The four LEDs were also a nice touch for the v1, it's a neat detail similar to the C70. If you make a v3, I'd really love to see those two details added back.
Are there any thoughts on releasing a handful of units in v1 alongside this IC or as a separate?

[gminso]

I really prefer the v1 variant that had the shorter 0.5u width. That small amount made that highly admired extra compact fit that comes in par with a regular 60%. Keycaps were very approachable with most gmk 40s kit. The most reluctant key was an R3 1.25 ctrl. Moulds for it exist but not enough usage/demand, a few gmk kits had it, but that was the only tiny thing about it that's tedious.

The four LEDs were also a nice touch for the v1, it's a neat detail similar to the C70. If you make a v3, I'd really love to see those two details added back.
Are there any thoughts on releasing a handful of units in v1 alongside this IC or as a separate?

I totally agree. also wish alps compatibility will be back.

[dr_unconscionable]

I really prefer the v1 variant that had the shorter 0.5u width. That small amount made that highly admired extra compact fit that comes in par with a regular 60%. Keycaps were very approachable with most gmk 40s kit. The most reluctant key was an R3 1.25 ctrl. Moulds for it exist but not enough usage/demand, a few gmk kits had it, but that was the only tiny thing about it that's tedious.

The four LEDs were also a nice touch for the v1, it's a neat detail similar to the C70. If you make a v3, I'd really love to see those two details added back.
Are there any thoughts on releasing a handful of units in v1 alongside this IC or as a separate?

I agree here -- it seems like this form factor will usually require a 40s kit anyway, so the width change doesn't seem like a big improvement to me.

But more than that I really miss the notification LEDs! Please consider adding them back in! They were a distinctive part of the design, and quite useful.

[gilmoregrills]

omg yaaaas so glad more of this board are being produced!

Is there going to be any compatibility with R1 TMOs? I could go for a PC or e-white case to swap out on my current one...

[biip]

yes

[funderburker]

I really prefer the v1 variant that had the shorter 0.5u width. That small amount made that highly admired extra compact fit that comes in par with a regular 60%. Keycaps were very approachable with most gmk 40s kit. The most reluctant key was an R3 1.25 ctrl. Moulds for it exist but not enough usage/demand, a few gmk kits had it, but that was the only tiny thing about it that's tedious.

The four LEDs were also a nice touch for the v1, it's a neat detail similar to the C70. If you make a v3, I'd really love to see those two details added back.
Are there any thoughts on releasing a handful of units in v1 alongside this IC or as a separate?

I get you but this is the design decision I took. Sorry. Unfortunately V1 won't be run during V2 GB as that seems a bit wrong.

omg yaaaas so glad more of this board are being produced!

Is there going to be any compatibility with R1 TMOs? I could go for a PC or e-white case to swap out on my current one...

No, TMO50 & TMOv2 isn't compatible in any way. Size, case design and PCB are all different.

[Re9456]

Any possibilities ship to China?


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[Koatl]

Would PC version include a brass weight? I think I'd like a board without it so I can put a nice sticker back there.

If PC comes with a weight, I'll just go aluminum.

[funderburker]

Would PC version include a brass weight? I think I'd like a board without it so I can put a nice sticker back there.

If PC comes with a weight, I'll just go aluminum.

All boards come with a brass weight, yes. I will share plate as well weight DXF files when GB launches. It's a flat 3mm brass plate with countersunk screw holes so pretty much you can easily make from other materials if you'd choose to go that route.

ALSO
I've been trying to post any relevant information in the Updates and FAQ post here so please check up on it from time to time. I'll try and post a new message for any big updates once that's important.

[lolafineday]

Would PC version include a brass weight? I think I'd like a board without it so I can put a nice sticker back there.

If PC comes with a weight, I'll just go aluminum.

Yes it does come with weight, or else it would be super light

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[gilmoregrills]

I really prefer the v1 variant that had the shorter 0.5u width. That small amount made that highly admired extra compact fit that comes in par with a regular 60%. Keycaps were very approachable with most gmk 40s kit. The most reluctant key was an R3 1.25 ctrl. Moulds for it exist but not enough usage/demand, a few gmk kits had it, but that was the only tiny thing about it that's tedious.

The four LEDs were also a nice touch for the v1, it's a neat detail similar to the C70. If you make a v3, I'd really love to see those two details added back.
Are there any thoughts on releasing a handful of units in v1 alongside this IC or as a separate?

I get you but this is the design decision I took. Sorry. Unfortunately V1 won't be run during V2 GB as that seems a bit wrong.

omg yaaaas so glad more of this board are being produced!

Is there going to be any compatibility with R1 TMOs? I could go for a PC or e-white case to swap out on my current one...

No, TMO50 & TMOv2 isn't compatible in any way. Size, case design and PCB are all different.

That's a shame! Has there been a design change to allow PC cases to be produced without warping this time around? I thought I remembered it wasn't possible last to get them straight and that's why only PC bottoms were offered.

[funderburker]

That's a shame! Has there been a design change to allow PC cases to be produced without warping this time around? I thought I remembered it wasn't possible last to get them straight and that's why only PC bottoms were offered.

Yes, that was priority #1 for the V2 design. On our prototype unit there's no issue with warping.

[yng]

Thank you to whoever posted an image of a render in a discord.  Otherwise I would have been still checking in on the old thread everyday finding absolutely no mention of a new TMO. 

I AM SO EXCITED!!!

[cucgach]

holy smoke...  this ver2 is hotter than the previous one.. go for it..

[RivieraS]

Come on！
GKD

[betho]

i will start saving money from now

[funderburker]

Hey guys!

So if someone followed up on the Updates post they would know there's been prototypes made!
Here's some photos of those beauties! Also I must warn you that even though they look :fire: these are prototypes and won't be available in the group buy. Sorry!

GB samples will be made once GB starts!













MORE PHOTOS! MORE ANGLES! MOAR!

[GigaFlop]

This is a sexy 50%, and doesn't sacrifice the [];' keys I use for programming. I'm going to try and set some money aside for this, and hope I get in.

[SleepIsAllINeed]

That's a great blue. Looking forward to the GB

[LostInInaka]

Damn...that transparent red....

Never knew I wanted a kb with that until now 

[Mcnos]

Nice

[pott]

That shade of blue; is that for the prototypes only?

It looks fantastic; it'd go well with grey, black, white keysets... a very versatile choice!

[funderburker]

Damn...that transparent red....

Never knew I wanted a kb with that until now 

Haha, I actually thought about doing a "Ruby Red" aluminium prototype just as the one that'll be available in the GB but when I heard there's a coloured PC option I knew that it'll be beautiful & special!

This is a sexy 50%, and doesn't sacrifice the [];' keys I use for programming. I'm going to try and set some money aside for this, and hope I get in.

Thank you! Then TMOv2 is just right for you! As a CS student I too wanted something that wouldn't compromise on punctuation too much and this is just the right setup for a slightly quirky (in a cute way) keyboard without limiting software developers.

UPDATE:
I've seen some people from Asia asking about a proxy and I'm currently working on it! I'm still gathering some statistics for the demand so if you're from Asia or Oceania please fill out this form!

[LostInInaka]

Damn...that transparent red....

Never knew I wanted a kb with that until now 

Haha, I actually thought about doing a "Ruby Red" aluminium prototype just as the one that'll be available in the GB but when I heard there's a coloured PC option I knew that it'll be beautiful & special!

Well..if you decide to part ways with that one, it would definitely be an instabuy for me...I wouldn’t be able to throw my money at the screen fast or hard enough 

[thenathan2769]

Just filled out a form, thank you for considering an Asia/Oceania proxy!
Definitely interested in purchasing a TMO, especially since missing out on the first run.

[Re9456]

Just filled out a form, thank you for considering an Asia/Oceania proxy!
Definitely interested in purchasing a TMO, especially since missing out on the first run.

Where is the form? I couldn't find it, is the IC already completed?

[djmantis]

Are GB spots going to be raffled? Or is it just first come, first serve?

I am interested in this board, but I am getting the feeling that this will be damn near impossible to get into 

[thenathan2769]

Just filled out a form, thank you for considering an Asia/Oceania proxy!
Definitely interested in purchasing a TMO, especially since missing out on the first run.

Where is the form? I couldn't find it, is the IC already completed?

The Asia/Oceania Proxy form is a couple of replies above:

UPDATE:
I've seen some people from Asia asking about a proxy and I'm currently working on it! I'm still gathering some statistics for the demand so if you're from Asia or Oceania please fill out this form!

[Re9456]

Just filled out a form, thank you for considering an Asia/Oceania proxy!
Definitely interested in purchasing a TMO, especially since missing out on the first run.

Where is the form? I couldn't find it, is the IC already completed?

The Asia/Oceania Proxy form is a couple of replies above:

UPDATE:
I've seen some people from Asia asking about a proxy and I'm currently working on it! I'm still gathering some statistics for the demand so if you're from Asia or Oceania please fill out this form!

Thank you

[Niahi]

If the Oceania proxy gets the go ahead, would we get our own set of units or would we be taking some of the other regions units?

[The Rhymenocerus]

Fascinated!

[funderburker]

If the Oceania proxy gets the go ahead, would we get our own set of units or would we be taking some of the other regions units?

It would mean your own set of units but they're no proxy yet.

[Niahi]

If the Oceania proxy gets the go ahead, would we get our own set of units or would we be taking some of the other regions units?

It would mean your own set of units but they're no proxy yet.

I'm honestly just happy that we would get our own units, thanks for the consideration

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[hndle]

Definitely in

[nathanchere]

Polycarb case offers good enough work arounds for the lack of indicator LEDs 😁

[Willhurt2008]

Would there be enough space to handwire it with bluetooth adafruit? Also, interested in Asian proxy.

[funderburker]

Sorry guys for the small silence. Was a bit busy with studies & work but did work a tiny bit on TMOv2 as well.

Will post an update tomorrow!

Peace,
funderburker

[martensson]

Are there any other cases that uses Smokey PC? Says in the description that it will be darker than the render, but would be nice to know how dark exactly. I like the idea for darker themed keycaps, but difficult to say without knowing how it looks for sure :/

[funderburker]

So November is just around the corner and here is the GB announcement everyone's been waiting!

GB going live on November 2nd!
GB thread going 1 week prior the sale with detailed pricing of everything!



Vendors:

• CannonKeys - 100 units in FCFS (65 aluminium / 35 polycarbonate base kits)
• MyKeyboard.EU - 30 units in FCFS (20 aluminium / 10 polycarbonate base kits)

Pricing:

• Ballpark pricing for base kit is ~$300-$350
• For Europeans that would be around €350-ish

Detailed information about pricing on base kits, extras and everything in-between will be in the GB thread!

No vendors in Asia or Oceania for this round. Sorry for any inconvenience but this round already is a pretty big one!

[heyjaykay]

Rip wallet. Good luck with the gb!

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[Niahi]

Staying up all night it is, GL all keen for a board

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[funderburker]

Writing GB thread draft tonight! Keep an eye out here as I will try and get it out tomorrow so it's exactly one week before November 2nd!

Have you already thought about your builds? 

[Niahi]

E-white, gmk 9009v2 + some white artisans with zilent switches.

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[ReverbSlush]

E-White, milkshake, holy panda  (if I get in!)

[funderburker]

GB ANNOUNCEMENT - TMOv2 LAUNCHING NOV 2ND

GB THREAD

[Potage]

Writing GB thread draft tonight! Keep an eye out here as I will try and get it out tomorrow so it's exactly one week before November 2nd!

Have you already thought about your builds? 

E-white, GMK Analog dreams, Zilents or Thick Thoc Marshmallow. So hyped for this board !