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Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: What is X? on Sat, 05 February 2011, 00:56:48: Anyone wanna fill me in on this?
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: iMav on Sat, 05 February 2011, 02:35:30: It is a "HHKB killer" if you perceive the HHKB's only advantage to be portability.

Personally, although I find short-throw, scissor switches fun to type on ocassionally, there is no way such a keyboard could replace my HHKB.

I often use my HHKB Pro 2 as my daily driver. GREAT layout with near-perfectly-designed function layer. Nice feel. Useful detachable USB cable and built in USB hub.

Both are smaller then a "regular" keyboard. That is where the similarity ends.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: jaynoon on Sat, 05 February 2011, 02:50:18: Yeah, it would be more appropriate to call it an Apple Keyboard Knockoff.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: What is X? on Sat, 05 February 2011, 03:14:23: I mean, why is it good? Are the switches tactile? How does it compare to a cherry switch?
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: manfaux on Sat, 05 February 2011, 03:17:14: Quote from: What is X?;290174
I mean, why is it good? Are the switches tactile? How does it compare to a cherry switch?

good because it's portable and cheap. does not compare to cherry/HHKBs whatsoever.

I prefer the Microsoft Arc , similar size/layout, wireless, a little more expensive than this.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: nocturn4l3030 on Sat, 05 February 2011, 05:38:46: ****in lol..
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: woody on Sat, 05 February 2011, 06:29:52: Ripster is busy creating memes.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: db_Iodine on Sat, 05 February 2011, 07:14:50: Quote from: jaynoon;290166
Yeah, it would be more appropriate to call it an Apple Keyboard Knockoff.

This is what I would call it. This makes the similar Apple keyboard look just as overpriced as it really is.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 05 February 2011, 07:41:59: Also, I'm assuming it's 2-kro. Right?
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Post by: db_Iodine on Sat, 05 February 2011, 08:01:28: Like most domes and scissors, I'd say it's most likely 2-kro.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: killy on Sat, 05 February 2011, 10:43:24: Scissors and domes aren't that different. Both immediately present the tactile bump to you, while mechanicals have a bit of travel before you get over the cusp.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 05 February 2011, 10:50:36: I don't hate on scissors TOO much. What I really hate are those chiclet keys.

Scissors gonna scizz. Chiclets gonna chic. Haters gonna hate.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: PikachuDX on Sat, 05 February 2011, 11:04:30: -7rsv'CQ4Tdl1A.-.zp1q+)3~BV%JiK~uMkl@425.YXb)O5gIi
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: manfaux on Sat, 05 February 2011, 11:11:07: Quote from: ripster;290304
You guys gotta check this one out too next time you are at Costco.

The Logitech RealForce Killer
Show Image
(http://www.androidyak.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/fdad4_logitech_Revue_keyboard-420-90.jpg)

now you've got to put that in the geekhack wiki, it's now officially the "realforce killer"
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Post by: db_Iodine on Sat, 05 February 2011, 11:25:54: Why the hell am I spending almost $300 on a Realforce when I could just buy that logitech for something like $50? I and many other geekhackers must be out of their minds to spend so much on a Realforce..
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: theferenc on Sat, 05 February 2011, 11:32:21: And as we all know, auto hot key can magically make a single physical key become two physical keys...
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: kps on Sat, 05 February 2011, 11:59:19: Quote from: ripster;290280
... as an extra added bonus has these:
Show Image
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5282/5304278286_5b20577b51_z.jpg)

What are you referring to?

If you mean the page movements layered on the cursor keys with fn, Apple started doing that with the G3 Powerbooks, in 1998. It sucks because fn is on the far left, so you can't page through documents one-handed. On older Apple laptops fn was seen by the OS as a modifier, so you could at least fix that with uControl (http://gnufoo.org/ucontrol/) or fKeys (http://www.kodachi.com/software/fKeys/), but when it's handled in the keyboard, ain't no way.

If you mean the one-cap-for-two-keys thing, that is characteristic of the recent Apple chiclets, as yet another one of Steve Jobs' techniques to promote touch screen by making keyboards that are hardly any better.
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Post by: DanGWanG on Sat, 05 February 2011, 12:23:47: Quote from: kps;290326
What are you referring to?

If you mean the page movements layered on the cursor keys with fn, Apple started doing that with the G3 Powerbooks, in 1998. It sucks because fn is on the far left, so you can't page through documents one-handed. On older Apple laptops fn was seen by the OS as a modifier, so you could at least fix that with uControl (http://gnufoo.org/ucontrol/) or fKeys (http://www.kodachi.com/software/fKeys/), but when it's handled in the keyboard, ain't no way.

If you mean the one-cap-for-two-keys thing, that is characteristic of the recent Apple chiclets, as yet another one of Steve Jobs' techniques to promote touch screen by making keyboards that are hardly any better.

He means the arrow keys.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: ch_123 on Sat, 05 February 2011, 12:25:53: Quote from: ripster;290280
With AutoHotkey it sure works like a HHKB but as an extra added bonus has these:
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(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5282/5304278286_5b20577b51_z.jpg)

Poorly pad printed keys? No, I wouldn't consider that much of a bonus.
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Post by: iMav on Sat, 05 February 2011, 13:58:12: Check out these Lego killers.

(http://lincolnlogs.knex.com/images/main_content1.jpg)
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 05 February 2011, 14:05:37: Zooey Deschanel killer:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NwtpvVYhcVo/ScsNP7C8ISI/AAAAAAAAAh4/ssyN0M9damo/s400/Taeyeon.jpg)
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Post by: clickclack on Sat, 05 February 2011, 14:33:14: Well this went in a hilarious new direction! haahaaaa.

This thread does remind me though that I need to retry one of those mini ML boards.

And indeed like iMav I often use the HHKBpro2/1 as a daily driver.

=3
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Post by: woody on Sat, 05 February 2011, 14:34:54: Quote from: keyboardlover;290400
Zooey Deschanel killer:

Show Image
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NwtpvVYhcVo/ScsNP7C8ISI/AAAAAAAAAh4/ssyN0M9damo/s400/Taeyeon.jpg)

Meh.
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Post by: keyboardlover on Sat, 05 February 2011, 14:42:25: Woody killer:

(http://f.imagehost.org/0328/fat-girls-in-thomgs-ugly-women-topless-breasts-rio-beach.jpg)

Also woody killer:

(http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20091002&Category=OPINION03&ArtNo=910020323&Ref=V2)
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Post by: ironman31 on Sat, 05 February 2011, 15:23:39: Quote from: woody;290419
Meh.

eh.
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Post by: db_Iodine on Sat, 05 February 2011, 15:26:44: Quote from: keyboardlover;290421
Woody killer:

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(http://f.imagehost.org/0328/fat-girls-in-thomgs-ugly-women-topless-breasts-rio-beach.jpg)
]

My woody is permanently killed :(
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Post by: Minskleip on Sat, 05 February 2011, 18:00:21: Fat chicks needs love too.
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Post by: sLeezy on Sat, 05 February 2011, 18:20:05: Quote from: Minskleip;290485
Fat chicks needs love too.

From God, not from me bro
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Post by: nigritude on Sat, 05 February 2011, 18:34:30: Quote from: sLeezy;290491
From God, not from me bro

wurd
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: Minskleip on Sat, 05 February 2011, 20:03:52: Already did my part, but I could always use another keyboard.. :D
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: j_r on Sun, 06 February 2011, 11:36:38: Quote
From God, not from me bro

Ahh, the tragedy that they will indefinitely be waiting, but at least their genes will get weeded out.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: sam113101 on Sun, 06 February 2011, 15:41:02: Hey, I bought one too to try it out, 18$ isn't a big deal. Lunar new year got in the way and I will probably receive it in like 4 or 5 months instead of 3, nice. Maybe I'm exaggerating things a bit.

I like scissors because they feel okay but are VERY quiet, what I need. Does it feel similar to the apple wireless keyboard*? I didn't like the feel of the apple wireless keyboard, though I like some scissors (those on my netbook are okay).
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: DanGWanG on Sun, 06 February 2011, 17:20:23: What about this scissor switch keyboard? Does anyone have this? Looks pretty nice for a slim 104 board.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201041&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3705318&SID=skim1043X499650X80ff9fc614d7d9b5ac328e7566eee9f9 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201041&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3705318&SID=skim1043X499650X80ff9fc614d7d9b5ac328e7566eee9f9)
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: Pylon on Sun, 06 February 2011, 17:33:33: Big ReverseL (often referred to as BigAss) enter and tiny backspace kills it, at least for me. Also Arial and that Rosewill logo on the spacebar.

Looks like those semi-chiclet/island keyboards that HP and Dell uses on some of their laptops. It feels almost like a island keyboard with the large keys and distinction, but without actually isolating the keys like an island keyboard.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: kps on Sun, 06 February 2011, 18:41:02: Quote from: Pylon;290926
Looks like those semi-chiclet/island keyboards that HP and Dell uses on some of their laptops.

My work laptop has those. Fortunately Synergy (http://synergy-foss.org/) means I rarely have to touch it.
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Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 23 March 2011, 06:22:47: Have one of these on the way to me. At least they're cheap.
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Post by: nmd on Wed, 23 March 2011, 07:27:05: Ooooh, I like how this looks. Where's the review?
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 23 March 2011, 08:22:15: this isn't about the kb, but rather about dealextreme. I've ordered from them in the past, but wow, i ordered a 2$ iphone4 dock, i think jan 20th... ish cuz i asked my fiancee if she wanted the iphone 4(verizon) and she said sure, it's cute. I just received it today, and while it's a pretty awesome dock, does a great job... wow i have never seen a 8week shipping period. Everything i've ordered on ebay from those chinese/taiwainese individual sellers take at most 2 weeks, usually 7days... but wow haven't had dealxtreme 8week wait!
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 23 March 2011, 12:41:23: I'm getting one from a UK ebay seller, and it's one that has the same colour scheme as an Apple one

(http://www.netgatetrading.com.au/ebay/mac/kb-2.gif)

Nonetheless, judging by the layout, it's the same keyboard.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 23 March 2011, 12:43:28: For half the price of the Apple one, I can live with that.

Quote from: killy;290289
Scissors and domes aren't that different. Both immediately present the tactile bump to you, while mechanicals have a bit of travel before you get over the cusp.

Depends on the switch. Alps, for example, have a high-up tactile point.
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Post by: BucklingSpring on Wed, 23 March 2011, 13:05:06: Blah
(http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_44378_5.jpg)
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Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 23 March 2011, 15:21:03: Quote from: ripster;316831
It's mushier than the Apple IIRC. Now I remember, I was holding off on the review to confirm that.

To what extent?
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: sam113101 on Wed, 23 March 2011, 16:05:16: I got mine something like two days ago.
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Post by: nmd on Wed, 23 March 2011, 16:08:09: Was about to order one but is it really taking more than a month to receive it? :O
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Post by: ch_123 on Wed, 23 March 2011, 16:56:52: There are US sellers on eBay selling it for a similar price, with presumably shorter shipping times.
Title: DealeXtreme HHKB Killer
Post by: BababooeyHTJ on Thu, 24 March 2011, 20:17:25: The keyboard on my laptop which I don't really use too often anymore has been flaky for a while so I figured that this little keyboard would make for the perfect replacement. It does the job pretty well. You really can't go wrong for the price.