[IC] TKC1800 Kit, QMK PCB, Plate (G80/G81 compatible) Official Announcement

[TheKeyCompany]

GB GOES LIVE FRIDAY, MARCH 2 7PM EST
EXPECTED DELIVERY MID APRIL 2018
UPDATED PRODUCT PAGES ON OUR SITE

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[Vloshko]

I can't wait, they all look stunning! Normally I go for dark colors, but I am definitely leaning towards a bright color with these. Fingerprints, smudges, and everything else showing up on dark colors is getting to me after too long.

[bciamny]

i was thinking about the black before that pink was announced. that pink is amazing. it really does look like an automotive paint job. and the lime green seems perfect with terminal.

great job with this, i hope to get one .

[TheKeyCompany]

i was thinking about the black before that pink was announced. that pink is amazing. it really does look like an automotive paint job. and the lime green seems perfect with terminal.

great job with this, i hope to get one .

Thank you! Im glad you dig. I have some new lighting coming in this week, I hope to take some better photos and update in the next week or so.

[Vloshko]

Are you still thinking about making the "White Pearl Tri-coat, aka cocaine white." you spoke of at one point?

[Rykno]

Is that a black with metallic flake? Any chance of really dark green?

[TheKeyCompany]

Are you still thinking about making the "White Pearl Tri-coat, aka cocaine white." you spoke of at one point?

That Cocaine white is in production at the shop as we speak! Should have them back by Christmas time.

[Vigrith]

That pink is perfection. Double edged sword because I really wanted the white you guys are working on before but the pink has to be bought - make sure the price is right and I'll probably end up getting one of each!

Very much looking forward to it.

[Rumblehotep]

Will you be running the Samoyed at the same time?

[TheKeyCompany]

Will you be running the Samoyed at the same time?

Yes we will. The Samoyed will ship a bit later than the first lot of TKC1800s.

[TheKeyCompany]

Is that a black with metallic flake? Any chance of really dark green?

It’s more of a metallic grey. It’s a Mopar color that’s currently out, Granite Crystal Metallic.

[wholypantalones]

I can't decide which color I like more.

[Rumblehotep]

I can't decide which color I like more.

Inorite, thas some kinda magenta ah garontee

[tjweir]

Yes, I have a Dolch to rebuild and an extra case with enough Alps for this.

2 x plate and PCB probably. 

Looking forward to this.

[wholypantalones]

I can't decide which color I like more.

Inorite, thas some kinda magenta ah garontee

Translation: am cajun, I like magenta keyboard. Yes.

[alisonica]

My nipples metapodding, confirmed in for 2 or moreif it will support Latching SKCM alps.

[TerryMathews]

My nipples metapodding, confirmed in for 2 or moreif it will support Latching SKCM alps.

Since it runs QMK, it supports locking keys on caps, scroll, or num lock. If you're on an OS that doesn't understand locking lock keys, you have to enable locking resync but it's a very tested and reliable feature in QMK.

Also, a tease. There's a huge advantage to using a MCU that has enough pins that we don't have to remap dedicated function pins like I2C into GPIOs to drive the matrix.

[Rumblehotep]

My nipples metapodding, confirmed in for 2 or moreif it will support Latching SKCM alps.

Since it runs QMK, it supports locking keys on caps, scroll, or num lock. If you're on an OS that doesn't understand locking lock keys, you have to enable locking resync but it's a very tested and reliable feature in QMK.

Also, a tease. There's a huge advantage to using a MCU that has enough pins that we don't have to remap dedicated function pins like I2C into GPIOs to drive the matrix.

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But can it play Doom?

[TheKeyCompany]

Finally got the new mylar diffusers in from the shop.

[TerryMathews]

Nice

[futurecrime]

Maybe I'm being thick but I can't see anywhere it says what the case is made out of? I mean I guess it's aluminium...

Anyway, those pink and green ones look special. I can see myself indulging in this if the funds allow.

[TheKeyCompany]

Maybe I'm being thick but I can't see anywhere it says what the case is made out of? I mean I guess it's aluminium...

Anyway, those pink and green ones look special. I can see myself indulging in this if the funds allow.

They’re plastic. They start life as a Cherry G80 case and undergo a refurbishment process. I’m not sure how that fact got omitted from the post, my bad. I’ll update it shortly.

[futurecrime]

Maybe I'm being thick but I can't see anywhere it says what the case is made out of? I mean I guess it's aluminium...

Anyway, those pink and green ones look special. I can see myself indulging in this if the funds allow.

They’re plastic. They start life as a Cherry G80 case and undergo a refurbishment process. I’m not sure how that fact got omitted from the post, my bad. I’ll update it shortly.

Oh wow. Great! I guess they'll be a fair bit cheaper than alu then.

[clappingcactus]

Are you still thinking about making the "White Pearl Tri-coat, aka cocaine white." you spoke of at one point?

That Cocaine white is in production at the shop as we speak! Should have them back by Christmas time.

Any updates on this? I think I'd really enjoy having the white.

[OfTheWild]

This looks pretty awesome... are you going to handle sourcing all the G80/81 donor cases?

[duynguyenle]

This looks pretty awesome... are you going to handle sourcing all the G80/81 donor cases?

He's got a pallette full of the damn things 

[avtar]

I'm so down for that pink And looking forward to more pics and plate colours

[pixelpusher]

They're nice, but I sure hope this isn't too pricey.  If you look closely at the prototypes, the blue has some paint issues on the right corner by the seam, and the green has issues in the middle by the seam.  I personally wouldn't want to pay top dollar for cases that had cosmetic issues.  My personal opinion, but I've never seen painted finishes on keyboards come back flawless.

[TheKeyCompany]

They're nice, but I sure hope this isn't too pricey.  If you look closely at the prototypes, the blue has some paint issues on the right corner by the seam, and the green has issues in the middle by the seam.  I personally wouldn't want to pay top dollar for cases that had cosmetic issues.  My personal opinion, but I've never seen painted finishes on keyboards come back flawless.

What’s “top dollar” in your eyes?

The cases I’m shooting with are ones that had issues from the paint shop. I have been playing around with the appliqués and diffuser stickers and didn’t want to handle the cases we will be selling too much to keep them pristine. We will have A stock options with no imperfections on the top case, maybe slight imperfections on the bottom case (where you don’t see it) and also B stock options that have slight imperfections like the ones you pointed out and will be selling those at a discount.

[_rubik]

I love the idea of sourcing G80 cases and refinishing them. With a potential rerun of skidata, that blue is making me salivate.

I'm certainly interested, price dependent as always.

[pixelpusher]

They're nice, but I sure hope this isn't too pricey.  If you look closely at the prototypes, the blue has some paint issues on the right corner by the seam, and the green has issues in the middle by the seam.  I personally wouldn't want to pay top dollar for cases that had cosmetic issues.  My personal opinion, but I've never seen painted finishes on keyboards come back flawless.

What’s “top dollar” in your eyes?

The cases I’m shooting with are ones that had issues from the paint shop. I have been playing around with the appliqués and diffuser stickers and didn’t want to handle the cases we will be selling too much to keep them pristine. We will have A stock options with no imperfections on the top case, maybe slight imperfections on the bottom case (where you don’t see it) and also B stock options that have slight imperfections like the ones you pointed out and will be selling those at a discount.

I would pay around $100.  Just hope these aren't in the $200-$250 range

[TheKeyCompany]

They're nice, but I sure hope this isn't too pricey.  If you look closely at the prototypes, the blue has some paint issues on the right corner by the seam, and the green has issues in the middle by the seam.  I personally wouldn't want to pay top dollar for cases that had cosmetic issues.  My personal opinion, but I've never seen painted finishes on keyboards come back flawless.

What’s “top dollar” in your eyes?

The cases I’m shooting with are ones that had issues from the paint shop. I have been playing around with the appliqués and diffuser stickers and didn’t want to handle the cases we will be selling too much to keep them pristine. We will have A stock options with no imperfections on the top case, maybe slight imperfections on the bottom case (where you don’t see it) and also B stock options that have slight imperfections like the ones you pointed out and will be selling those at a discount.

I would pay around $100.  Just hope these aren't in the $200-$250 range

<$100 for the case only? You’re in good shape.

If you’re expecting this full kit to be sub-$100 you’re gonna have a bad time.

[_rubik]

They're nice, but I sure hope this isn't too pricey.  If you look closely at the prototypes, the blue has some paint issues on the right corner by the seam, and the green has issues in the middle by the seam.  I personally wouldn't want to pay top dollar for cases that had cosmetic issues.  My personal opinion, but I've never seen painted finishes on keyboards come back flawless.

What’s “top dollar” in your eyes?

The cases I’m shooting with are ones that had issues from the paint shop. I have been playing around with the appliqués and diffuser stickers and didn’t want to handle the cases we will be selling too much to keep them pristine. We will have A stock options with no imperfections on the top case, maybe slight imperfections on the bottom case (where you don’t see it) and also B stock options that have slight imperfections like the ones you pointed out and will be selling those at a discount.

I would pay around $100.  Just hope these aren't in the $200-$250 range

<$100 for the case only? You’re in good shape.

If you’re expecting this full kit to be sub-$100 you’re gonna have a bad time.

Is there a price range you're hoping to hit for the whole kit? I'd imagine with all the pcb work, that accounts for half the price.

[Vigrith]

Is there a price range you're hoping to hit for the whole kit? I'd imagine with all the pcb work, that accounts for half the price.

The price I've seen mentioned has been $250~ pretty consistently, I may be wrong though as that was not directly from TKC. Pretty steep for a plastic case most people would say (and potentially true), however with the entire process this has to go through I'd say it seems quite fair.

[_rubik]

Is there a price range you're hoping to hit for the whole kit? I'd imagine with all the pcb work, that accounts for half the price.

The price I've seen mentioned has been $250~ pretty consistently, I may be wrong though as that was not directly from TKC. Pretty steep for a plastic case most people would say (and potentially true), however with the entire process this has to go through I'd say it seems quite fair.

Floating around 200 would be ideal IMO, but considering the amount of labor put into this (obtaining the cases, painting them, etc.), I'd consider 250 to be more than reasonable. But then again, they also have me wrapped around their finger with the blue g80 + skidata...

[TheKeyCompany]

They're nice, but I sure hope this isn't too pricey.  If you look closely at the prototypes, the blue has some paint issues on the right corner by the seam, and the green has issues in the middle by the seam.  I personally wouldn't want to pay top dollar for cases that had cosmetic issues.  My personal opinion, but I've never seen painted finishes on keyboards come back flawless.

What’s “top dollar” in your eyes?

The cases I’m shooting with are ones that had issues from the paint shop. I have been playing around with the appliqués and diffuser stickers and didn’t want to handle the cases we will be selling too much to keep them pristine. We will have A stock options with no imperfections on the top case, maybe slight imperfections on the bottom case (where you don’t see it) and also B stock options that have slight imperfections like the ones you pointed out and will be selling those at a discount.

I would pay around $100.  Just hope these aren't in the $200-$250 range

<$100 for the case only? You’re in good shape.

If you’re expecting this full kit to be sub-$100 you’re gonna have a bad time.

Is there a price range you're hoping to hit for the whole kit? I'd imagine with all the pcb work, that accounts for half the price.

I want to be very cautious quoting prices until I’m sure this factory doing the PCBs is up to my standard.

However I’ll safely say that a full kit (PCB, plate, plain Jane case) will be under $180. I’m teying to make the base model kit as close to $150 as I can.

[TheKeyCompany]

Is there a price range you're hoping to hit for the whole kit? I'd imagine with all the pcb work, that accounts for half the price.

The price I've seen mentioned has been $250~ pretty consistently, I may be wrong though as that was not directly from TKC. Pretty steep for a plastic case most people would say (and potentially true), however with the entire process this has to go through I'd say it seems quite fair.

Floating around 200 would be ideal IMO, but considering the amount of labor put into this (obtaining the cases, painting them, etc.), I'd consider 250 to be more than reasonable. But then again, they also have me wrapped around their finger with the blue g80 + skidata...

Not an official statement here but I can say this:

I’ve been working the pricing out and the only kits that will get into the $250 range are the ones with the premium tri stage candy paints. To give you an idea what we’re talking about, a pint of the candy pink base (A PINT!) costs $200. I get 8 cases out of that pint. So we won’t be doing a ton of the super high end colors unless the demand is there.

[pixelpusher]

Yes less than $100 for the case.  And that seems to be what you’re planning.  So all is good for me

[Vloshko]

That pink is perfection. Double edged sword because I really wanted the white you guys are working on before but the pink has to be bought - make sure the price is right and I'll probably end up getting one of each!

Very much looking forward to it.

I feel the same

[TheKeyCompany]

Yes less than $100 for the case.  And that seems to be what you’re planning.  So all is good for me

Oh god, I hope you didn’t think I was going to charge $200+ for cases. That would be rapacious. The custom candy colors won’t be cheap but they won’t be that high.

I promise you won’t be disappointed.

[fractl]

Which ones are considered custom candy colored?  I assuming not everything other than black, but have no idea which other than black would be the cheaper option.  Though I do really like the green for some reason, probably because I have the Lime keyset coming soon, but I'm sure that's one of the candy colors.  I just don't know if I could justify $250 for a plastic keyboard, regardless of the excellence of the paint job.  I'm not saying I don't understand the cost involved.  We'll see.

[pixelpusher]

SA Lime on the green
Carbon on the orange
Lazer or Miami nights on pink
The electric blue with hydro would be awesome too, no?

[ideus]

Any idea of the pricing for a simple stock naked case and a PCB?

[TheKeyCompany]

Any idea of the pricing for a simple stock naked case and a PCB?

I’m going to try to keep it as close to $150 as I can get it.

[poolside]

The blue case with the SkiData set is quite enticing 
The first post has pictures of boards with a beige cable. Were those shot with the original G8X internals?

[avtar]

Any idea what the estimated timeline will be like for this, from invoicing to shipping? Also, are the case colours finalized?

[Delirious]

This one supports alps. Winning!

[pixelpusher]

This one supports alps. Winning!

Okay, that’s cool and all, but where in the hell are you going to find an 1800 compatible alps set?

[duynguyenle]

This one supports alps. Winning!

Okay, that’s cool and all, but where in the hell are you going to find an 1800 compatible alps set?

DSA is a good candidate... Though I feel like it's not the best choice for a 1800 form factor board. You could also try and find old terminal style 1800 Alps boards and mix and match the caps with the alphas/normal 2.25u enters from more common ANSI boards to try and get a cohesive kit. Definitely possible, just takes more work

[Rykno]

What type of USB?

[crtexcnndrm99]

Updates for the possible matte army/vintage green, limited run colour?

Basically, replicating ramnes' keyboard here:

http://i.imgur.com/igpNHgQ.jpg

[Delirious]

This one supports alps. Winning!

Okay, that’s cool and all, but where in the hell are you going to find an 1800 compatible alps set?

[pixelpusher]

This one supports alps. Winning!

Okay, that’s cool and all, but where in the hell are you going to find an 1800 compatible alps set?

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Maybe.  What board is that?  Not sure how you would incorporate BAE though

[Delirious]

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This one supports alps. Winning!

Okay, that’s cool and all, but where in the hell are you going to find an 1800 compatible alps set?

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Maybe.  What board is that?  Not sure how you would incorporate BAE though

It's from a datacomp laptop for the Asian market. It has skcm pine whites, fully functional with xt to ps2 converter.
BAE is just a regular ansi 2.25u mounting with an extra set of stab in place of the Pipe key. The one on the left.





I also incorporated BAE before with my UK78 board, abs plate.

[TheKeyCompany]

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This one supports alps. Winning!

Okay, that’s cool and all, but where in the hell are you going to find an 1800 compatible alps set?

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Maybe.  What board is that?  Not sure how you would incorporate BAE though

It's from a datacomp laptop for the Asian market. It has skcm pine whites, fully functional with xt to ps2 converter.
BAE is just a regular ansi 2.25u mounting with an extra set of stab in place of the Pipe key. The one on the left.

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I also incorporated BAE before with my UK78 board, abs plate.

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Wow. That’s sexy. How scarce are those? I REALLY want one. I’m a sucker for vintage and even more so for obscure layouts. Thanks for sharing.

[TheKeyCompany]

What type of USB?

Mini. We considered doing USB-C but in the end it gives almost no benefit, costs more to implement, and makes custom cables more difficult to obtain. You can hardware your cable so I imagine if you really want USB-C or Micro you can make something work.

[pixelpusher]

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This one supports alps. Winning!

Okay, that’s cool and all, but where in the hell are you going to find an 1800 compatible alps set?

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Maybe.  What board is that?  Not sure how you would incorporate BAE though

It's from a datacomp laptop for the Asian market. It has skcm pine whites, fully functional with xt to ps2 converter.
BAE is just a regular ansi 2.25u mounting with an extra set of stab in place of the Pipe key. The one on the left.

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I also incorporated BAE before with my UK78 board, abs plate.

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That is an amazing setup for sure.  I remember the recent GMK BAE interest check revealing that their bae mold doesn’t work with any existing pcbs.  Interesting to see that these old boards did it in a logical manner.

Again, very beautiful build you have there

[iHateKnives]

Do you have a rough estimate for white painted case + pcb + plate?

I'm fairly a newbie at this but... if I do get a plate, then I'll need plate-mounted stabilizers? Even though the switches are PCB mounted?

Am aware you want to be sure with prices from the PCB manufacturer. A rough approx would be killer, though. I won't hold it against you if the prices suddenly spiked up

[TheKeyCompany]

Do you have a rough estimate for white painted case + pcb + plate?

I'm fairly a newbie at this but... if I do get a plate, then I'll need plate-mounted stabilizers? Even though the switches are PCB mounted?

Am aware you want to be sure with prices from the PCB manufacturer. A rough approx would be killer, though. I won't hold it against you if the prices suddenly spiked up

I don’t have a quote just yet. I’m STILL waiting on this new assembly place. I have a quote but not a sample. As soon as the new sample is received and tests 100% we will announce pricing. Expect around $200 total for thrbkit.

We will have GMK PCB mounted stabs available for sale with the kits and they are fully compatible with the plate.

[iHateKnives]

Do you have a rough estimate for white painted case + pcb + plate?

I'm fairly a newbie at this but... if I do get a plate, then I'll need plate-mounted stabilizers? Even though the switches are PCB mounted?

Am aware you want to be sure with prices from the PCB manufacturer. A rough approx would be killer, though. I won't hold it against you if the prices suddenly spiked up

I don’t have a quote just yet. I’m STILL waiting on this new assembly place. I have a quote but not a sample. As soon as the new sample is received and tests 100% we will announce pricing. Expect around $200 total for thrbkit.

We will have GMK PCB mounted stabs available for sale with the kits and they are fully compatible with the plate.

Apologies for rushing and thank you for answering my queries. I'm excited for this and am happy/sad this is hitting in the same month as GMK Camping. Rest in piece, my wallet

[duynguyenle]

Do you have a rough estimate for white painted case + pcb + plate?

I'm fairly a newbie at this but... if I do get a plate, then I'll need plate-mounted stabilizers? Even though the switches are PCB mounted?

Am aware you want to be sure with prices from the PCB manufacturer. A rough approx would be killer, though. I won't hold it against you if the prices suddenly spiked up

As a rule of thumb, ALWAYS get PCB-mount stabilisers. If you want to use plate-mounted Cherry or Costar stabilisers, the plate actually has to be cut SPECIFICALLY to suit that specific layout. Which precludes all universal plates.

In fact, the only time you generally see the use of plate-mount stabilisers is for hand-wired builds without PCB, or on OEM off-the-shelf keyboards (for ease of assembly)

[iHateKnives]

Do you have a rough estimate for white painted case + pcb + plate?

I'm fairly a newbie at this but... if I do get a plate, then I'll need plate-mounted stabilizers? Even though the switches are PCB mounted?

Am aware you want to be sure with prices from the PCB manufacturer. A rough approx would be killer, though. I won't hold it against you if the prices suddenly spiked up

As a rule of thumb, ALWAYS get PCB-mount stabilisers. If you want to use plate-mounted Cherry or Costar stabilisers, the plate actually has to be cut SPECIFICALLY to suit that specific layout. Which precludes all universal plates.

In fact, the only time you generally see the use of plate-mount stabilisers is for hand-wired builds without PCB, or on OEM off-the-shelf keyboards (for ease of assembly)

Got it! Thanks for the detailed response. Am excited for this <3

[TheKeyCompany]

Do you have a rough estimate for white painted case + pcb + plate?

I'm fairly a newbie at this but... if I do get a plate, then I'll need plate-mounted stabilizers? Even though the switches are PCB mounted?

Am aware you want to be sure with prices from the PCB manufacturer. A rough approx would be killer, though. I won't hold it against you if the prices suddenly spiked up

PCB only will be around $45-$50 USD. ROUGH ESTIMATE. Please don't hold me to this. If this manufacturer doesn't work out, the price could go up by as much as $10 per.

I just hope this new sample gets here quick (its in transit) and we can test it out, place the order before Chinese New Year puts a halt to manufacturing. 

[TheKeyCompany]

Calling all Alps fans.

Here is an imgur link of the Alps plate with some notations on things that are not quite finalized or in question.

Any feedback provided would be greatly appreciated.

Things:

-What stabilizer is preferred. I think plate mount Costar will be the easiest to be compatible with all types of Alps caps out there
- Has anyone tried an MX / Alps combo cut out on a plate? Ive never seen it done, curious if it has.

That is all. Waiting to hear from y'all.

[avtar]

Thanks for the update! Those plate colours look awesome.

[TheKeyCompany]

We received the new PCB from the factory this past weekend. Everything tested good and we were pleased with the quality of the build.

Just awaiting a final quote, and I plan to place the first order this week. Stock will be limited from the first run (~100 units), we want to ensure quality in the production models. Once the first order is fulfilled and everything goes smoothly, we will open up a second round of orders.

Here are some shots of the new board.

And for fun, some pics of the new candy pink case with the purple plate.

[xZ3ROx]

Wow, that pink is Hot!


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[shadowrealmwarez]

I really love that OLED screen just for giggles.

[avtar]

Do want https://i.imgur.com/E2Dki9V.jpg

[Paopawdecarabao]

Wow!

[_rubik]

Do want https://i.imgur.com/E2Dki9V.jpg

I agree. I would love more info on the oled display. Is the display being offered in the GB, or is that something we'll need to source?

[TheKeyCompany]

Do want https://i.imgur.com/E2Dki9V.jpg

I agree. I would love more info on the oled display. Is the display being offered in the GB, or is that something we'll need to source?

If there is enough interest we can try to make it a little easier. We can have a HEX file that will make it work out of the box, and once we figure out a way to mount it and make it look nice, a kit could be an option. Worst case scenario we can make a DIY guide and direct everyone to the parts and the procedure.

[Vigrith]

We received the new PCB from the factory this past weekend. Everything tested good and we were pleased with the quality of the build.

Just awaiting a final quote, and I plan to place the first order this week. Stock will be limited from the first run (~100 units), we want to ensure quality in the production models. Once the first order is fulfilled and everything goes smoothly, we will open up a second round of orders.

Here are some shots of the new board.

And for fun, some pics of the new candy pink case with the purple plate.

Wonderful pictures! I'm curious as for how the two runs are gonna go - if this has been decided, will the colours offered for both be identical as well as pricing? I'm getting one for sure and if everything's going to be the same through both runs I'll just pick the one which has the best timing for me personally.

[TheKeyCompany]

We received the new PCB from the factory this past weekend. Everything tested good and we were pleased with the quality of the build.

Just awaiting a final quote, and I plan to place the first order this week. Stock will be limited from the first run (~100 units), we want to ensure quality in the production models. Once the first order is fulfilled and everything goes smoothly, we will open up a second round of orders.

Here are some shots of the new board.

And for fun, some pics of the new candy pink case with the purple plate.

Wonderful pictures! I'm curious as for how the two runs are gonna go - if this has been decided, will the colours offered for both be identical as well as pricing? I'm getting one for sure and if everything's going to be the same through both runs I'll just pick the one which has the best timing for me personally.

Thanks!

I plan to sell the full kits along side the PCBs / plates on their own until we run out of stock on something. That will generate some capital to paint some more cases and gauge interest / gauge demand.

Initially all the colors and stock black cases will be available but in limited quantities. We had some bumps in the road during the first few runs of paint, so we have some B stock we can sell eventually. Now that we've done about 10 runs of the cases or so the quality is very consistent and we've worked out the bugs.

Which products are you specifically interested in? Maybe I should run a survey and see what everyone is thinking so I can prepare.

[Paopawdecarabao]

What is the weight fully assembled? I'm goin for the green kit,

[avtar]

Which products are you specifically interested in? Maybe I should run a survey and see what everyone is thinking so I can prepare.

I'm hoping to get one kit (pink case, purple plate) and a stock black case.

[Vigrith]

Thanks!

I plan to sell the full kits along side the PCBs / plates on their own until we run out of stock on something. That will generate some capital to paint some more cases and gauge interest / gauge demand.

Initially all the colors and stock black cases will be available but in limited quantities. We had some bumps in the road during the first few runs of paint, so we have some B stock we can sell eventually. Now that we've done about 10 runs of the cases or so the quality is very consistent and we've worked out the bugs.

Which products are you specifically interested in? Maybe I should run a survey and see what everyone is thinking so I can prepare.

I appreciate the detailed explanation, I believe I follow what your plan is.

A survey sounds like a good idea, personally I want a full kit (possibly 2), painted (white and/or pink) kit - not sure if you're planning on offering assembly, likely not, but I have friends that can help with that in any case.

[iHateKnives]

Can't wait! Prolly getting myself the black case or some B-stock cos I wanna paint it beige like old keyboards

[crtexcnndrm99]

Can't wait! Prolly getting myself the black case or some B-stock cos I wanna paint it beige like old keyboards

I’m sure they’d be able to sell you the original beige case - that’s what they start as before they paint it, so it’d be pointless actually painting it beige


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[mogo]

Can't wait! Prolly getting myself the black case or some B-stock cos I wanna paint it beige like old keyboards

I’m sure they’d be able to sell you the original beige case - that’s what they start as before they paint it, so it’d be pointless actually painting it beige


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I believe the 1800's that TKC has are actually black plastic, not the beige ones.

edit: if you really wanted some authentic beigeness, you could always buy an old board off ebay, like this yellowed one.

[iHateKnives]

Can't wait! Prolly getting myself the black case or some B-stock cos I wanna paint it beige like old keyboards

I’m sure they’d be able to sell you the original beige case - that’s what they start as before they paint it, so it’d be pointless actually painting it beige


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I believe the 1800's that TKC has are actually black plastic, not the beige ones.

edit: if you really wanted some authentic beigeness, you could always buy an old board off ebay, like this yellowed one.

Good suggestion! Would do that if I was living in the states I think shipping will just bite me in the ass. A can of spray paint is barely 10 dollars here

[Vloshko]

Run a survey for sure. Also I'm most likely going in for 2, one for me and one for the lady. Blue and pink, the ones in the second to last image of the op.

[Rayndalf]

Will the PCB offer 6KRO?

[TerryMathews]

Will the PCB offer 6KRO?

We've got NKRO on by default, it feels like fewer and fewer computers have trouble dealing with NKRO but is a configurable option via magic keys or by recompiling.

[Spaceman1200]

cant wait to grab a pcb and plate for my 1800! Are you guys really based in Detroit? im close enough to be willing to do a local pickup on my order lol

[Rayndalf]

Will the PCB offer 6KRO?

We've got NKRO on by default, it feels like fewer and fewer computers have trouble dealing with NKRO but is a configurable option via magic keys or by recompiling.

That's great. I didn't see any mention of the rollover, so I assumed the worst, but looking back on the (over-engineered) design of the PCB it should have been obvious

[TerryMathews]

Will the PCB offer 6KRO?

We've got NKRO on by default, it feels like fewer and fewer computers have trouble dealing with NKRO but is a configurable option via magic keys or by recompiling.

That's great. I didn't see any mention of the rollover, so I assumed the worst, but looking back on the (over-engineered) design of the PCB it should have been obvious

Over-engineered is an understatement:

- Broken out I2C and SPI pins
- Proper hardware PWM support on backlight
- Hardware PWM dimming on status LEDs (currently set by firmware to max brightness, still deciding how to best implement)
- Battery detect - the idea was originally to over BT support as well. I've had trouble getting the AdafruitBLE working. If someone got this working, there is a separate power pin for battery that would allow you to do cool stuff like auto-turn off RGB when on battery

Ive been playing in QMK since long before I got involved in this project. I can say with all honesty that this will be the most advanced board on the market when it comes to QMK support.

This is going to be the board for tinkerers to develop new stuff on.

[steinerlein]

Will the PCB offer 6KRO?

We've got NKRO on by default, it feels like fewer and fewer computers have trouble dealing with NKRO but is a configurable option via magic keys or by recompiling.

That's great. I didn't see any mention of the rollover, so I assumed the worst, but looking back on the (over-engineered) design of the PCB it should have been obvious

Over-engineered is an understatement:

- Broken out I2C and SPI pins
- Proper hardware PWM support on backlight
- Hardware PWM dimming on status LEDs (currently set by firmware to max brightness, still deciding how to best implement)
- Battery detect - the idea was originally to over BT support as well. I've had trouble getting the AdafruitBLE working. If someone got this working, there is a separate power pin for battery that would allow you to do cool stuff like auto-turn off RGB when on battery

Ive been playing in QMK since long before I got involved in this project. I can say with all honesty that this will be the most advanced board on the market when it comes to QMK support.

This is going to be the board for tinkerers to develop new stuff on.

Concerning the BLE, I'd be super interested in implementing this as well! Actually, I am quite far already with a small numpad I use for testing purposes. Aside SPI, which is definitely needed for this, are there any other GPIO pins broken out? I think two or three would be needed to properly control the NRF module that Adafruit uses.

[Edit] If course, I am very interested in a PCB and maybe a plate, too

[clappingcactus]

Are you still thinking about making the "White Pearl Tri-coat, aka cocaine white." you spoke of at one point?

That Cocaine white is in production at the shop as we speak! Should have them back by Christmas time.

Any updates on this? I think I'd really enjoy having the white.

I know it sounds ridiculous and picky but I'd love to be part of this buy if there's a white kit. Any updates on it? :O

@TerryMatthews, that sounds amazing.

[TerryMathews]

Concerning the BLE, I'd be super interested in implementing this as well! Actually, I am quite far already with a small numpad I use for testing purposes. Aside SPI, which is definitely needed for this, are there any other GPIO pins broken out? I think two or three would be needed to properly control the NRF module that Adafruit uses.

[Edit] If course, I am very interested in a PCB and maybe a plate, too

Pins broken out on headers:

MOSI, MISO, SCK, SDA, SCL

Pins easily accessible but not on headers per se:

RGB data (you'd have to solder to the Din pad on RGB1), num lock, caps lock, scroll lock

Due to routing issues, they weren't brought out to points but there are unused pins on the MCU you could attach to if you're skilled enough:

PE3-6, PB0, PB4, PB5, PD5, PD6

[steinerlein]

Concerning the BLE, I'd be super interested in implementing this as well! Actually, I am quite far already with a small numpad I use for testing purposes. Aside SPI, which is definitely needed for this, are there any other GPIO pins broken out? I think two or three would be needed to properly control the NRF module that Adafruit uses.

[Edit] If course, I am very interested in a PCB and maybe a plate, too

Pins broken out on headers:

MOSI, MISO, SCK, SDA, SCL

Pins easily accessible but not on headers per se:

RGB data (you'd have to solder to the Din pad on RGB1), num lock, caps lock, scroll lock

Due to routing issues, they weren't brought out to points but there are unused pins on the MCU you could attach to if you're skilled enough:

PE3-6, PB0, PB4, PB5, PD5, PD6

That is awesome! More than enough.
Is shipping to eu going to be a problem? And of course, when are the PCBs available?

[TheKeyCompany]

Can't wait! Prolly getting myself the black case or some B-stock cos I wanna paint it beige like old keyboards

I’m sure they’d be able to sell you the original beige case - that’s what they start as before they paint it, so it’d be pointless actually painting it beige

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They actually start life as a black case. B Stock cases are cases that were painted in the shop and have minor defects. You wouldn't want to paint over that with a rattle can.

[TheKeyCompany]

Do you have a rough estimate for white painted case + pcb + plate?

I'm fairly a newbie at this but... if I do get a plate, then I'll need plate-mounted stabilizers? Even though the switches are PCB mounted?

Am aware you want to be sure with prices from the PCB manufacturer. A rough approx would be killer, though. I won't hold it against you if the prices suddenly spiked up

As a rule of thumb, ALWAYS get PCB-mount stabilisers. If you want to use plate-mounted Cherry or Costar stabilisers, the plate actually has to be cut SPECIFICALLY to suit that specific layout. Which precludes all universal plates.

In fact, the only time you generally see the use of plate-mount stabilisers is for hand-wired builds without PCB, or on OEM off-the-shelf keyboards (for ease of assembly)

I have a few hundred sets of GMK screw in stabs to sell during the buy.

[TheKeyCompany]

cant wait to grab a pcb and plate for my 1800! Are you guys really based in Detroit? im close enough to be willing to do a local pickup on my order lol

Office is currently in Pontiac, across the street from whats left of the Silverdome. We are going to be moving soon, but not before this is ready to ship. Send me an email and lets figure it out.

[TheKeyCompany]

Are you still thinking about making the "White Pearl Tri-coat, aka cocaine white." you spoke of at one point?

That Cocaine white is in production at the shop as we speak! Should have them back by Christmas time.

Any updates on this? I think I'd really enjoy having the white.

I know it sounds ridiculous and picky but I'd love to be part of this buy if there's a white kit. Any updates on it? :O

@TerryMatthews, that sounds amazing.

EDIT: I should have the white cases end of this week or early next week.

[Vloshko]

Concerning the BLE, I'd be super interested in implementing this as well! Actually, I am quite far already with a small numpad I use for testing purposes. Aside SPI, which is definitely needed for this, are there any other GPIO pins broken out? I think two or three would be needed to properly control the NRF module that Adafruit uses.

[Edit] If course, I am very interested in a PCB and maybe a plate, too

Pins broken out on headers:

MOSI, MISO, SCK, SDA, SCL

Pins easily accessible but not on headers per se:

RGB data (you'd have to solder to the Din pad on RGB1), num lock, caps lock, scroll lock

Due to routing issues, they weren't brought out to points but there are unused pins on the MCU you could attach to if you're skilled enough:

PE3-6, PB0, PB4, PB5, PD5, PD6

I'm super stoked to read this Terry

[Uleoja]

Does anybody know if the PCB will work with a tx1800v2 and the tx plate?  I know it says tx1800 but not sure if V2 is any different.  Thanks!

[TheKeyCompany]

Does anybody know if the PCB will work with a tx1800v2 and the tx plate?  I know it says tx1800 but not sure if V2 is any different.  Thanks!

I don’t think they would have changed the design of the PCB. This is by no means a guarantee, but it’s safe to assume it will fit.

[Uleoja]

Does anybody know if the PCB will work with a tx1800v2 and the tx plate?  I know it says tx1800 but not sure if V2 is any different.  Thanks!

I don’t think they would have changed the design of the PCB. This is by no means a guarantee, but it’s safe to assume it will fit.

I think it will work.  You'd just be screwing in the PCB with the plate.  I hate to be a pain.  But could you direct me to some reading on how the RGB underglow would work? Maybe how you would install it once the PCB arrives?  Are you using strips? And how would you program? Thank you again!  I'll be buying one for sure! Also waiting on that r2 terminal

[TerryMathews]

Does anybody know if the PCB will work with a tx1800v2 and the tx plate?  I know it says tx1800 but not sure if V2 is any different.  Thanks!

I don’t think they would have changed the design of the PCB. This is by no means a guarantee, but it’s safe to assume it will fit.

The TX1800V2 ships with a bog standard MX1800 board from Leeku. It'll work.

[Rayndalf]

I already have a windows 8 logo 1800, and have a 1838 on the way, but I fear I'm going to have to get my hands on a third one and PCBs for each.

In my experiences I've had good luck with (OG) PCB mounted Cherry, would a plate even be noticeable in a case designed to support a plateless PCB?

[duynguyenle]

I already have a windows 8 logo 1800, and have a 1838 on the way, but I fear I'm going to have to get my hands on a third one and PCBs for each.

In my experiences I've had good luck with (OG) PCB mounted Cherry, would a plate even be noticeable in a case designed to support a plateless PCB?

I prefer using any G80 case with a plate. It's borderline unbearable to type on a PCB-mounted build

[TheKeyCompany]

I already have a windows 8 logo 1800, and have a 1838 on the way, but I fear I'm going to have to get my hands on a third one and PCBs for each.

In my experiences I've had good luck with (OG) PCB mounted Cherry, would a plate even be noticeable in a case designed to support a plateless PCB?

I prefer using any G80 case with a plate. It's borderline unbearable to type on a PCB-mounted build

I already have a windows 8 logo 1800, and have a 1838 on the way, but I fear I'm going to have to get my hands on a third one and PCBs for each.

In my experiences I've had good luck with (OG) PCB mounted Cherry, would a plate even be noticeable in a case designed to support a plateless PCB?

I already have a windows 8 logo 1800, and have a 1838 on the way, but I fear I'm going to have to get my hands on a third one and PCBs for each.

In my experiences I've had good luck with (OG) PCB mounted Cherry, would a plate even be noticeable in a case designed to support a plateless PCB?

I prefer using any G80 case with a plate. It's borderline unbearable to type on a PCB-mounted build

I agree with the plate. Its a good idea to have one in there. The stock G80s used a really thick PCB and offered decent stability. The newer PCBs (like the one I will be selling) arent as rigid. A plate takes it to a whole other level. Its slightly visible between the caps. The case does require a slight modification, and thanks the the help of duynguyenle, Ill have a pretty easy guide to follow in order to make the modification. Originally I planned to mod the cases in house but its far too time consuming for me to offer that.

[Delirious]

https://imgur.com/a/gwMJg

This was a few months back, gonna build another one with this pcb

[Rayndalf]

The (original) PCBs are black or dark brown, so a black plate would blend right in. I have no problem cutting into the newer 1800, but I'm not sure I want to modify the 1838. I may try to reinforce the PCB from below, but I won't know till I have the parts partially assembled

[heckenjoni]

is it possible to just buy an pcb ?

[TheKeyCompany]

is it possible to just buy an pcb ?

Of course! How many do you want?

Im going to open the sale probably next week (pending order being confirmed)

[TheKeyCompany]

The (original) PCBs are black or dark brown, so a black plate would blend right in. I have no problem cutting into the newer 1800, but I'm not sure I want to modify the 1838. I may try to reinforce the PCB from below, but I won't know till I have the parts partially assembled

Dont worry about the case too much. All the modification are hardly visible when assembled. Also, I will have brand new off the line black G80-1800 cases for sale.

[Rayndalf]

I know I'm going to need 2 PCBs and at least 1 plate (really depends on the price per plate).

I already have a new 1800 (got it nib, but its basically the same board you guys gutted for cases). It feels like a wasted opportunity to retrofit an 1800 with maybe 2 months of solid use, as the switches are just about the worst cherry blacks available (a few years too old to be 'new' and too new to be broken in or 'vintage'). I had gotten a board with vintage blacks on the cheap, but I finished handwiring the rows, and its too clean to scrap. Guess I'll just have to use the 1800 often enough that I can break in the switches myself

[heckenjoni]

is it possible to just buy an pcb ?

Of course! How many do you want?

Im going to open the sale probably next week (pending order being confirmed)

I need 1 PCB what would be the price for 1 shipped to germany ? also is there a picture of the bottom side of the pcb ? how much smd underglow leds does it support ? greetings from germany !

[A.L.]

interested aswell, how will the underglow of the pcb work ? and shipping quotes to Germany would be awesome aswell !

[p_blaze]

Is there an underglow or diffuser insert for the case?

[heckenjoni]

any updates here ? rly looking forward to this one ...

[TheKeyCompany]

is it possible to just buy an pcb ?

Of course! How many do you want?

Im going to open the sale probably next week (pending order being confirmed)

I need 1 PCB what would be the price for 1 shipped to germany ? also is there a picture of the bottom side of the pcb ? how much smd underglow leds does it support ? greetings from germany !

Is there an underglow or diffuser insert for the case?

interested aswell, how will the underglow of the pcb work ? and shipping quotes to Germany would be awesome aswell !

No shipping quotes yet. We only use DHL Express for international at this time. I imagine packed in a soft pack bag shipping for a PCB only would be around $20 USD. Shipping the whole kit would require a box, expect about $30-$35.

The under glow RGB is available, but you have to provide and install the LEDs yourself. We did this so the PCB could work in future and existing designs that accommodate under glow. The TKC 1800 does NOT support underglow.

[avtar]

Any chance of an assembled option?

[Vigrith]

Any chance of an assembled option?

Would also like to know this. I have friends that can help out if assembly is not offered but it's always a plus in my book.

[heckenjoni]

(shipping price sounds good to me) i rly want this pcb for a tx1800 v2, just a few questions about the underglow, with its not supported you mean the leds are not presolderd right ? did you guys got the underglow working on this pcb at any point ? if so could you provide a simple guide or something like this, if its not to hard to get the underglow working on this one i would buy one for sure !

[mogo]

(shipping price sounds good to me) i rly want this pcb for a tx1800 v2, just a few questions about the underglow, with its not supported you mean the leds are not presolderd right ? did you guys got the underglow working on this pcb at any point ? if so could you provide a simple guide or something like this, if its not to hard to get the underglow working on this one i would buy one for sure !

I believe they meant that the case does not support the... existence of underglow. Because it's solid plastic, no windows, no diffuser plate.

[heckenjoni]

(shipping price sounds good to me) i rly want this pcb for a tx1800 v2, just a few questions about the underglow, with its not supported you mean the leds are not presolderd right ? did you guys got the underglow working on this pcb at any point ? if so could you provide a simple guide or something like this, if its not to hard to get the underglow working on this one i would buy one for sure !

I believe they meant that the case does not support the... existence of underglow. Because it's solid plastic, no windows, no diffuser plate.

i see i think you are right, my english is not the best, would still love to know if there are places for the leds or if i can install an led strip

[BlindAssassin111]

i see i think you are right, my english is not the best, would still love to know if there are places for the leds or if i can install an led strip

There are places for the LEDs on the back of the pcb, I have a prototype that I was using for testing of my alps sliders, and that prototype has the LEDs on the board. They are probably not going to be on there as most cases don't support any underglow, and I don't believe they are going to change the pcb to remove those pads.

[sythie]

The TX1800V2 ships with a bog standard MX1800 board from Leeku. It'll work.

How does the TKC1800 PCB compare to the MX1800?
The MX1800 looks thicker to me.

Would the brass plate for the TX1800v2 fit this kit?

[duynguyenle]

The TX1800V2 ships with a bog standard MX1800 board from Leeku. It'll work.

How does the TKC1800 PCB compare to the MX1800?
The MX1800 looks thicker to me.

Would the brass plate for the TX1800v2 fit this kit?

First of all, how do you even infer the thickness of PCBs based on pictures? "Looks thicker" is not a scientific measurement. FWIW, the Leeku MX1800 FR4 substrate is a bog-standard 1.6mm thickness (measured with calipers on both v1.3 and v1.6 versions)

For the second part of your question, no the plate for the TX1800v2 will not work in an OG Cherry 1800 case. You will need to either get one from this GB or get one custom cut.

[BlindAssassin111]

First of all, how do you even infer the thickness of PCBs based on pictures? "Looks thicker" is not a scientific measurement. FWIW, the Leeku MX1800 FR4 substrate is a bog-standard 1.6mm thickness (measured with calipers on both v1.3 and v1.6 versions)

To further this point, the TKC1800 uses a 1.6mm PCB as well, which is the standard for a lot of industries.

[TerryMathews]

i see i think you are right, my english is not the best, would still love to know if there are places for the leds or if i can install an led strip

There are places for the LEDs on the back of the pcb, I have a prototype that I was using for testing of my alps sliders, and that prototype has the LEDs on the board. They are probably not going to be on there as most cases don't support any underglow, and I don't believe they are going to change the pcb to remove those pads.

Correct. RGB LED pads are in place and supported by firmware, but they will not be factory installed as there's only one 1800 case (TX1800) that supports RGB underglow and their presence in a normal Cherry case requires alterations to the support structure in the bottom casing.

[under.pk]

I check GH everyday, really want the plate and pcb so bad.

[heckenjoni]

at what date can we expect to buy the pcb ? rly want this one

[Rayndalf]

I check GH everyday, really want the plate and pcb so bad.

at what date can we expect to buy the pcb ? rly want this one

Glad to know I'm not the only one checking daily just to make sure I get the opportunity to be ~$150 poorer

[under.pk]

Yeah I have the keyboard with QWERTZ ISO layout and I really want to change them to Ansi. QMK also a BIG PLUS.

[_rubik]

Seeing as they are such similar cases, this question applies to the Cherry 11900. What is a good way to add weight to these cases. Obviously the 11900 is pcb mount, so the tkc1800 plate will stiffen it up and add weight, but has anyone added anything into the case?

[BlindAssassin111]

Seeing as they are such similar cases, this question applies to the Cherry 11900. What is a good way to add weight to these cases. Obviously the 11900 is pcb mount, so the tkc1800 plate will stiffen it up and add weight, but has anyone added anything into the case?

The ghetto way of doing it would be to go to hobby lobby, or similar hobby store, and buy some lead weights for pine wood derby cars. Otherwise you will have to do something more custom and expensive.

[TerryMathews]

Seeing as they are such similar cases, this question applies to the Cherry 11900. What is a good way to add weight to these cases. Obviously the 11900 is pcb mount, so the tkc1800 plate will stiffen it up and add weight, but has anyone added anything into the case?

The ghetto way of doing it would be to go to hobby lobby, or similar hobby store, and buy some lead weights for pine wood derby cars. Otherwise you will have to do something more custom and expensive.

To expound on this: the slats in the stock case are meant to support the PCB. Anything that doesn't cross the top of the slats is not going to cause interference. There's a ton of space in the case to add dampening material and weight. You will probably want to wait until you have the board in hand before doctoring the case if you intend on installing and playing with either of the headers (I2C and SPI) as you will have to make space to accommodate the headers and routing for the wires.

[loud_asian]

is it possible to just buy an pcb ?

Of course! How many do you want?

Im going to open the sale probably next week (pending order being confirmed)

Any updates on when these are gonna go up for sale? I'd love to do a mx build and alps build in these

[_rubik]

is it possible to just buy an pcb ?

Of course! How many do you want?

Im going to open the sale probably next week (pending order being confirmed)

Any updates on when these are gonna go up for sale? I'd love to do a mx build and alps build in these

I came here just to ask the same question.

[heckenjoni]

yeah would buy one aswell ... just need a date ^^

[BlindAssassin111]

He has been quite busy lately, hence him not having responded yet. I haven't heard anything yet, so just keep a look out for a post when he gets a chance.

[Uleoja]

I would buy 1 maybe 2 PCB's.  I am excited!

[TheKeyCompany]

Hey everyone. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but were delayed again, hopefully for the last time.

Long story short, the PCB factory we ordered from basically decided to go AWOL and is not going to be fulfilling the order now.

We already got a bunch of quote requests out. Should know more in a few days.

If any vendors or makers have any recommendations on a good PCB supplier I can use, PM me. I appreciate it.

Full info here in a blog post.

[mogo]

Hey everyone. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but were delayed again, hopefully for the last time.

Long story short, the PCB factory we ordered from basically decided to go AWOL and is not going to be fulfilling the order now.

We already got a bunch of quote requests out. Should know more in a few days.

If any vendors or makers have any recommendations on a good PCB supplier I can use, PM me. I appreciate it.

Full info here in a blog post.

A bummer for sure, but waiting patiently is a skill everyone in this hobby must hone. And so we will continue to wait and hope for this excellent board!

(Side note, anyone have thoughts on the best way to go about making this a bluetooth board once I get one?)

[TheKeyCompany]

Hey everyone. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but were delayed again, hopefully for the last time.

Long story short, the PCB factory we ordered from basically decided to go AWOL and is not going to be fulfilling the order now.

We already got a bunch of quote requests out. Should know more in a few days.

If any vendors or makers have any recommendations on a good PCB supplier I can use, PM me. I appreciate it.

Full info here in a blog post.

A bummer for sure, but waiting patiently is a skill everyone in this hobby must hone. And so we will continue to wait and hope for this excellent board!

(Side note, anyone have thoughts on the best way to go about making this a bluetooth board once I get one?)

Thanks for the patience!

Bluetooth will be pretty easy. I wanted to do a module made specifically for the case, but it was going to cost a fortune to design and produce, and the market wasn't really there. However, Terrymathews has been playing with an Adafruit board that works splendidly. And its quite affordable.

[avtar]

Sucks about the delay but thanks for being deligent with the updates here

Bluetooth sounds really good. I'd definitely sign up for that. Also, any thoughts regarding the following?

Any chance of an assembled option?

[TheKeyCompany]

Sucks about the delay but thanks for being deligent with the updates here

Bluetooth sounds really good. I'd definitely sign up for that. Also, any thoughts regarding the following?

Any chance of an assembled option?

It would be really hard to do since the plates would have to be at the factory in order for them to assemble. I’m going to talk to a few community members to see if anyone wants to build a few for people.

Honestly, try building a board! It’s fun!  Unless you’re like me and just don’t have time.

[avtar]

It's more the time issue for me as well. But no worries if that isn't an option, I'll figure something out

[heckenjoni]

i would love to build some boards, but located in germany so would only be an option for ppl in europe i guess

[Kavik]

This looks amazing. I am interested when this goes live!

[kevinzavier]

I will def buy this board, i especially like the light blue version

[mogo]

Surprised i haven't seen any update here, but TKC posted this on /r/mk yesterday:

...
And lastly, The TKC1800.
We have a new supplier set up and a new facilitator handling the production of the PCB. We feel confident enough with the new supplier to open up the GB. Currently we have ~100 painted cases in stock and ~30 BNIB stock black cases, 50 plates (more on order), GMK screw in stabs and all the other required parts. The ONLY part not in stock is the PCB. The lead time on the PCBs is about 60 days. We are going to open the GB on Friday, March 02, 2018 at 7pm EST. First come, first served as each color is limited (we will be getting more stock of the brand new stock black cases so those will be an endless supply). Ill post a proper IC tomorrow to get everyone up to speed on the details of the buy.
...
TL;DR
GMK Led Zep - Production complete. Ships Mid-March
DSA Drifter - Delayed approx 1 month
Terminal_ R2 - GB starts after GMK Led Zep ships
TKC1800 GB starts this Friday

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/810ioc/vendor_thekeycompany_gb_updates_tkc1800/?st=je8u648c&sh=2ed783b9

The hype train is finally pulling into the station!

[vewy_nice]

I skimmed the thread, and didn't see much reflecting the available colors... Is it only the bright ones shown?

I bought Mint Dolch on MD, and it'd be amazingly super sexy to have a case that matches the minty legend colors

AFTEREDIT: The white will do nicely. That's super slick!

[TheKeyCompany]

Hey everyone! u/M1keHonch0 here!   
 
Here it is. This is the official IC / Sale announcement of a project I have been working on for over a year. I am pleased to finally be able to bring it to all you fine clackers. 
 
TKC1800
 
The story
 
The case:
The TKC1800 is a project I dreamt up back in 2016. I bought a vintage G80-1800 on mechmarket. The PCB was great but the case was a bit sloppy. I came to realize that the G81 cases are identical. Then I acquired a few brand new ones on eBay and swapped cases. It came out magnificent. (I since sold Red Alert to u/kimbless and I regret it every day.) This led me to buy a pallet of used G80-1800s from a nice fella in Europe with the intentions of providing a cheap solution to people for a custom 1800 style keeb. Well, the pallet arrived and the cases were beat to ****. I scuffed a few up in the garage with some scotchbrite and hit them with some Rustoleum. The end result looked pretty cool, although not a viable solution for a product. I contacted a friend who runs a body shop that restores classic cars and asked him to shoot a few and see if its something he could do and would want to do. After alot of going back and forth and testing and trying new things, we finally nailed that process down. I have since also sourced brand new black stock cases from the Cherry factory in near unlimited supply. They come in any color you want as long as its black.   
 

The PCB:
I initially was going to use the 1800L3 PCBs from Leeku. Its a great PCB, the issue was getting enough of them and having control over manufacturing. I wanted this to be exactly how I wanted it to be. I decided a custom solution from scratch was the only way to go. I discussed the projects with a few different community members and was unable to find anyone willing to do it for a reasonable amount or in a reasonable time frame. So what did I do? I hired an embedded systems engineer (at great expense). Worth every penny. The new PCB has many upgrades to what is currently available. The PCB runs QMK firmware, it has and SPI interface meaning you can access the remaining pins on the processor to do fun things, like add a blue tooth module, or an OLED screen. Lets see what else you clever people can dream up with this feature! Its been a long road finding a suitable manufacturer, but we have finally nailed it down and are ready to start manufacturing. Did I mention its MX and Alps compatible? The firmware has been developed and tested by u/terrymathews and he is working on an OLED screen kit that will be available in the near future. A Bluetooth module is in the works, as well.   
 
The Plate: Not much to say about the plate. I originally ordered them in 1mm thickness, Im not super happy with that. The new ones will be 1.5mm thickness. I will sell the 1mm ones off at a later date with the B stock cases. The colors initially chosen are really great in my opinion. Im going to add a few options to the GB and will place the order as soon as the buy is over so everyone gets what they want. There will be 2 variants available. One for Cherry MX switches with switch top opening and will work with PCB mount stabs. The Alps version will have cutouts for Alps switches and will use plate mount stabs. This way you can use any SP Alps keyset, or you can pick up some Nexus Alps to MX adapters designed by the brilliant u/blindassassin111.  We will be stocking these as well once they are ready. 
 
FAQ

What is the case made of?
The case is injection molded ABS plastic that has been sanded, primed, adhesion promoter applied, then painted with automotive paint.   

How much is it?
The pricing is on the product page on our site
 
Can I buy just a PCB?
Yes. And plates are available also. 
 
Will the PCB and Plate fit a Dolch PAC?
Yes. The PCB and Plate fit in any G80 /G81 1800 case as well as the Dolch Pac, even the OG Skidata board. But in order to use a plate you must modify the case with a dremel or some other cutting device. We will offer the option to cut the case for you prior to shipping, u/blindassassin111 came up with a pretty slick jig that were going to use to get nice, clean cuts. 
 
When does the sale start? When will the kits be delivered? 
The products are available to preview on the site now. The sale goes live Friday, March 2 at 7PM EST. Theres enough to go around so if there is a particular color that you want you should be able to get it. I wont ever make more than 24 of any single color case (except stock black unpainted). Lead time on the PCBs is 60 days. Based on my experience with GBs and manufacturer lead times, I would say 60 days is a solid bet, but dont panic if it takes 90. 

 

[lemur]

Hey everyone! u/M1keHonch0 here!   
 
Here it is. This is the official IC / Sale announcement of a project I have been working on for over a year. I am pleased to finally be able to bring it to all you fine clackers. 
 
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Hey this looks great!

Just wanted some clarification..

On thekey.company website when it lists what is included in the kit it says:

Whats included in the kit?

Case
PCB
Plate
Brand new (improved) bump ons
Aluminum / Brass ID tag
New diffuser decal

and on the front page of this IC it says this:

Whats included in the kit?
-Case
-PCB
-Plate (optional) Anodized aluminum in choice of color 1mm thick
-Brand new (improved) bump ons
-Aluminum / Brass ID tag
-GMK screw in stabilizers in size of your choice
-New diffuser decal
-Switches of your choice from NovelKeys.xyz

These two are a bit different....  Can you give some clarification about which one is accurate, as this info would greatly impact my purchasing decision.

thanks!

[TheKeyCompany]

The info on the website is accurate. I need to just remove all the old info from GH. I was up pretty late putting the page together and didn’t clear it all out. Sorry for the mix up.

[avtar]

Will it be possible to buy a stock black case along with a painted one? If yes, how much will it cost?

[TheKeyCompany]

Will it be possible to buy a stock black case along with a painted one? If yes, how much will it cost?

The cases are only for sale as a kit. In the future when I get more black cases in stock I will offer them for sale ala carte. So right now, it’s only possible if you buy 2 kits.

[TheKeyCompany]

Just updated the main page a bit. Sorry for the poor editing, Im scrambling to fix some back end issues on the product pages so we dont crash and everyone gets a fair chance to get what they want.

Good luck to all who join! Act fast, I think this is going to sell out fast.

Note: Black unpainted cases, PCBs, and Plates will NOT sell out. Painted ones will, and probably fast.

[avtar]

Damn, the MX purple plate is already sold out? 

[Origami_Rabbit]

On no! I'd been refreshing the preview page!!! And coca white is gone now. Dagnabbit!!!
BTW, can you describe the longevity of the paint? I may join v2 if it happens in the future for matte white case.

[BlindAssassin111]

On no! I'd been refreshing the preview page!!! And coca white is gone now. Dagnabbit!!!
BTW, can you describe the longevity of the paint? I may join v2 if it happens in the future for matte white case.

It is legit automotive paint, if you take care of it like you would take car of paint on a really nice car. It will last for a very, very long time.

[Kavik]

I'm glad a couple of the colors sold out fast. I couldn't decide, and it helped me narrow it down  )

I decided to go with orange.

[Vigrith]

Note: Black unpainted cases, PCBs, and Plates will NOT sell out. Painted ones will, and probably fast.

Quick question regarding the PCBs and plates, I may have missed something but I didn't actually see when the GB is meant to close - as in, what's the deadline to get orders in? Just checking since I'll probably pick up an extra plate and PCB depending on how long orders for those remain open.

[TheKeyCompany]

Note: Black unpainted cases, PCBs, and Plates will NOT sell out. Painted ones will, and probably fast.

Quick question regarding the PCBs and plates, I may have missed something but I didn't actually see when the GB is meant to close - as in, what's the deadline to get orders in? Just checking since I'll probably pick up an extra plate and PCB depending on how long orders for those remain open.

Im going to order quite a few PCBs so Ill probably just leave it open. Price may go up a touch once the order is placed. Safe bet, 2 weeks.

Did you get what you wanted, btw?

[clik_clak]

I don't quite get the ordering structure...

If I try to add an orange plate with the case kit, I get a sold out message, but then I can go to the extras page and order any plate I want.

Is this by design?

[TheKeyCompany]

I don't quite get the ordering structure...

If I try to add an orange plate with the case kit, I get a sold out message, but then I can go to the extras page and order any plate I want.

Is this by design?

No. There was a bug earlier in the buy but it has since been resolved. What case / plate combo are you trying to order?

If you continue to get the issue, place your order, ignore the sold out thing at checkout and send me an email to orders@thekey.company and Ill get it resolved for you. I have to go home. Been at the office WAY too long today.

[Vigrith]

Im going to order quite a few PCBs so Ill probably just leave it open. Price may go up a touch once the order is placed. Safe bet, 2 weeks.

Did you get what you wanted, btw?

Roger that, 2 weeks is plenty, I did get the case colour I wanted thank you for asking! I just stumbled and cut some corners whilst ordering and checking out to make sure I made it in time so I'll shoot you an email some time this weekend to square up a couple things. Or I can just PM you on Reddit again if that works for you? Would probably be easier, for me at least.

[TheKeyCompany]

Im going to order quite a few PCBs so Ill probably just leave it open. Price may go up a touch once the order is placed. Safe bet, 2 weeks.

Did you get what you wanted, btw?

Roger that, 2 weeks is plenty, I did get the case colour I wanted thank you for asking! I just stumbled and cut some corners whilst ordering and checking out to make sure I made it in time so I'll shoot you an email some time this weekend to square up a couple things. Or I can just PM you on Reddit again if that works for you? Would probably be easier, for me at least.

Hey! I’m glad you got what you wanted!

Please send the email. I pay for Zendesk so I can keep track of customer issues and what not. PMs on here and Reddit just lead to people not getting what they need, and that’s not how I operate.

Drop me a line. I’ll get you squared away!

[Vigrith]

Hey! I’m glad you got what you wanted!

Please send the email. I pay for Zendesk so I can keep track of customer issues and what not. PMs on here and Reddit just lead to people not getting what they need, and that’s not how I operate.

Drop me a line. I’ll get you squared away!

Yo! Absolutely man, I can see why it'd be way easier to keep track of several things from multiple customers via email/zendesk than PMs.

I'll reach out some time this weekend as said, very happy I managed to get the case I wanted right away - glad to see I still got it all these years later, big chunk of my life spent sniping Diablo 2 **** on d2jsp haha

[clik_clak]

I don't quite get the ordering structure...

If I try to add an orange plate with the case kit, I get a sold out message, but then I can go to the extras page and order any plate I want.

Is this by design?

No. There was a bug earlier in the buy but it has since been resolved. What case / plate combo are you trying to order?

If you continue to get the issue, place your order, ignore the sold out thing at checkout and send me an email to orders@thekey.company and Ill get it resolved for you. I have to go home. Been at the office WAY too long today.

Well that really sucks. I had a tanzanite blue in my cart, with an orange plate and it said the plate was out of stock. Cleared out my cart to get a different color and the blue case was gone. Checked a bit later with cocaine white and ran into the same problem. Now all the colors I want are gone, even though I tried several times to purchase. Pretty bummed about the whole situation.

[TheKeyCompany]

Hey! I’m glad you got what you wanted!

Please send the email. I pay for Zendesk so I can keep track of customer issues and what not. PMs on here and Reddit just lead to people not getting what they need, and that’s not how I operate.

Drop me a line. I’ll get you squared away!

Yo! Absolutely man, I can see why it'd be way easier to keep track of several things from multiple customers via email/zendesk than PMs.

I'll reach out some time this weekend as said, very happy I managed to get the case I wanted right away - glad to see I still got it all these years later, big chunk of my life spent sniping Diablo 2 **** on d2jsp haha

Oh man, when we first ran >Terminal_ we didnt have Zendesk, and Ill admit, we probably ticked a few people off. One of the reasons this company exists is because my partner and I wanted a company that was relatable, on the level, and actually provided stellar customer service. Zendesk is SO awesome for that. I wish it integrated into Reddit / GH. I mean, it actually could but it would be clunky as all hell.

Anyway, glad you got what you wanted! Sorry the shipping rates were higher than expected DHL raised their rates as of the 1st.

[chuckdee]

Note: Black unpainted cases, PCBs, and Plates will NOT sell out. Painted ones will, and probably fast.

Quick question regarding the PCBs and plates, I may have missed something but I didn't actually see when the GB is meant to close - as in, what's the deadline to get orders in? Just checking since I'll probably pick up an extra plate and PCB depending on how long orders for those remain open.

Im going to order quite a few PCBs so Ill probably just leave it open. Price may go up a touch once the order is placed. Safe bet, 2 weeks.

Did you get what you wanted, btw?

So are you going to get in more of the individual colors?  They went fast!

[TheKeyCompany]

I don't quite get the ordering structure...

If I try to add an orange plate with the case kit, I get a sold out message, but then I can go to the extras page and order any plate I want.

Is this by design?

No. There was a bug earlier in the buy but it has since been resolved. What case / plate combo are you trying to order?

If you continue to get the issue, place your order, ignore the sold out thing at checkout and send me an email to orders@thekey.company and Ill get it resolved for you. I have to go home. Been at the office WAY too long today.

Well that really sucks. I had a tanzanite blue in my cart, with an orange plate and it said the plate was out of stock. Cleared out my cart to get a different color and the blue case was gone. Checked a bit later with cocaine white and ran into the same problem. Now all the colors I want are gone, even though I tried several times to purchase. Pretty bummed about the whole situation.

Yeah, it sucks. Ill do my best to accommodate you. Email me at orders@thekey.company and let me know what you want, and Ill do what I can to accommodate you. Sorry for the troubles.

[clik_clak]

Yeah, it sucks. Ill do my best to accommodate you. Email me at orders@thekey.company and let me know what you want, and Ill do what I can to accommodate you. Sorry for the troubles.

Thanks man, I'm shooting you off an email now.

[TheKeyCompany]

Note: Black unpainted cases, PCBs, and Plates will NOT sell out. Painted ones will, and probably fast.

Quick question regarding the PCBs and plates, I may have missed something but I didn't actually see when the GB is meant to close - as in, what's the deadline to get orders in? Just checking since I'll probably pick up an extra plate and PCB depending on how long orders for those remain open.

Im going to order quite a few PCBs so Ill probably just leave it open. Price may go up a touch once the order is placed. Safe bet, 2 weeks.

Did you get what you wanted, btw?

So are you going to get in more of the individual colors?  They went fast!

They sure did. Some colors sold out in a matter of a minute or so. (pink, cocaine, tanzanite). I have so many requests for Tanzanite that I have to place another order for those right away. I have orders in with the shop for a few more additional colors as well. Its just the process is pretty time consuming, and the shop can only do so many. There will be more, I promise!

[p_blaze]

I'm really happy to hear this is going so well! I can't even imagine how much work went into making this happen...

[TheKeyCompany]

I'm really happy to hear this is going so well! I can't even imagine how much work went into making this happen...

Thanks! It was a ridiculous amount of work, I assure you. Lots of let downs along the way, screw ups, etc.

The good thing is I learned alot about product design, made some awesome friends and colleagues along the way, and it came to fruition! In all, Im extremely happy with the project. Means alot you took the time to chime and and pass on the praise!

[Vigrith]

Oh man, when we first ran >Terminal_ we didnt have Zendesk, and Ill admit, we probably ticked a few people off. One of the reasons this company exists is because my partner and I wanted a company that was relatable, on the level, and actually provided stellar customer service. Zendesk is SO awesome for that. I wish it integrated into Reddit / GH. I mean, it actually could but it would be clunky as all hell.

Anyway, glad you got what you wanted! Sorry the shipping rates were higher than expected DHL raised their rates as of the 1st.

Yea in a market and hobby/community like this being relatable, approachable and humane is the best way to conduct business in my opinion. Not necessarily from a financial point of view, if you're good to the people good things will come with. Good on you for doing that, I can tell you first hand that that has absolutely been my experience with you and your company thus far, and I appreciate that.

I expected the shipping to be between 35 to 40 to begin with, 30 always felt a little generous so I wasn't holding you to it, it's all good. The dollar is really weak right now so I understand them upping costs (I don't know if it's related to that but you know, either way) and it's really not too bad on my end - especially for DHL, it's always better service than USPS with valuable international orders from my experience.

[chuckdee]

So are you going to get in more of the individual colors?  They went fast!

They sure did. Some colors sold out in a matter of a minute or so. (pink, cocaine, tanzanite). I have so many requests for Tanzanite that I have to place another order for those right away. I have orders in with the shop for a few more additional colors as well. Its just the process is pretty time consuming, and the shop can only do so many. There will be more, I promise!

Thanks!  I'll be looking out (wanted metallic grey myself).

[TheKeyCompany]

So are you going to get in more of the individual colors?  They went fast!

They sure did. Some colors sold out in a matter of a minute or so. (pink, cocaine, tanzanite). I have so many requests for Tanzanite that I have to place another order for those right away. I have orders in with the shop for a few more additional colors as well. Its just the process is pretty time consuming, and the shop can only do so many. There will be more, I promise!

Thanks!  I'll be looking out (wanted metallic grey myself).

Pretty sure theres a few B stock Metallic Grey left. The defects on that color are really hard to see. Id grab one of those up, I dont know if Ill run that color again.

[p_blaze]

I'm really happy to hear this is going so well! I can't even imagine how much work went into making this happen...

Thanks! It was a ridiculous amount of work, I assure you. Lots of let downs along the way, screw ups, etc.

The good thing is I learned alot about product design, made some awesome friends and colleagues along the way, and it came to fruition! In all, Im extremely happy with the project. Means alot you took the time to chime and and pass on the praise!

Hard work pays off! I really appreciate original and thoughtful new customs 

[Photoelectric]

Please create a dedicated thread for the group buy instead of discussing it in the Interest Checks.  Thank you.