[IC] GMK Red Devils - Starts TOMORROW, 9/2 - GB thread is open!

[Fredington]

Welcome to the IC for GMK Red Devils, inspired by the South Korean national soccer team and of course, Zambumon's GMK Striker. Even though this team has achieved only modest success on the world stage, few things stir up Korean national pride and unity as supporting their team in a major tournament.


Colors



A note about the red: It’s really more of a deep pink almost, a very pleasing hue if I do say so myself.


GB Info

This set will run from September 2-30 with the following vendors:

NA: TXKeyboards
Canada: DeskHero
EU: MyKeyboards
Asia: iLumkb
Oceania: DailyClack



NOTE ABOUT PRICING: I know many of you were disappointed that the Numpad+ISO kit was added to the Base kit, but as a standalone kit, it would have cost a prohibitive $55, whereas adding it to the base kit resulted in only a $10 increase.


Kits

Base

The base kit has compatibility for the most popular layouts in the community, from 60% and up, and features the reworked icon mods introduced with GMK 8008/9009. It also includes accent options for Esc and Enter, F13, terminal ISO, and brand new 한자 and 한/영 sublegends on ALT and CTRL for complete Hangul support.



Hangul

This kit includes brand new molds for mono Hangul legends. NOTE: The primary legends (top left corner) have been slightly enlarged and bolded (compared to how they are as sublegends) to be more in line with cherry conventions. They will not however, be as bold as the standard Latin legends, as it would not look appropriate for Hangul.



Spacebars

This kit features odd-sized spacebars and a 2nd B/ㅠ and mono ㅠ for Alice layouts.



Taegukgi

The Taegukgi kit is a small novelty kit taking inspiration from the flag of South Korea. It adds a strong graphic element to the set and would also pair nicely with GMK Minimal.




Artisan Collaborations

Dokkaebi by Salvun



Horangi by RAMA





Taeguk by RAMA






Deskmat

The Korean Wave

An abstract representation of the Taeguk (Korean Yin/Yang) in the form of a wave.








Renders by Janglad

TGR Jane



Keycult No. 1/65





RAMA M60-A





HBCP






FAQs

1. What is 대한민국? 대한민국 (Daehan Minguk) is a popular cheer used in sports. It is akin to the "U-S-A!" chant that Americans are fond of.

2. What do the symbols in the Taegukgi kit mean? These are trigrams, or 괘 (gwae), that you may recognize from the flag of South Korea. They actually can mean a myriad of things—including the cardinal directions. See below chart from Wikipedia:




To-Do

Feedback – Done
Artisans – Done
Vendors – Done
Date & Pricing – September 2-30, prices pending
Launch GB – Pending



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[Fredington]

Changelog:

8.22.20
- Added final renders, NA pricing, and exact dates

8.5.20
- Poll results confirm mod style will remain as is (center aligned icons), with over 65% of the votes

7.31.20
- Will proceed with Option 1 for the RAMA Taeguk artisan
- Added a final poll to determine the style of mods. Please vote here.

7.23.20
- Changed R3 1.75u Control text to icon for more consistent look with lefthand mods
- Changed F-row Lock to Scroll
- Removed 00 key since standalone numpads are pretty rare overall
- Removed 2nd Tab and extra ALT keys from Hangul kit to keep cost down
- Hangul kit legend size/weight have been revised to be more in line with cherry standards
- Added 1u and 1.25u blanks to Spacebars kit, as well as a 2nd mono ㅠ key
- Changed deskmat background to black based on poll and added white trigrams
- Changed Salvun artisan base metal to aluminum and finish to anodization.

6.25.20
- Added illustration of Salvun cap, this will be a placeholder until Salvun can make samples
- Integrated numpad and ISO into the Base kit
- Changed ISO legends to terminal-style (# of keys remains the same)
- Dropped Mac bottom row swaps
- Moved Alice support and 6u spacebars into a separate Spacebars kit
- Dropped the 40s kit (unfortunately, interest for this was pretty low, especially since Alice support was originally provided in the Base kit and now will be present in the Spacebars kit)
- Please fill out the new IC Form!

6.7.20
- Added RAMA cap

5.29.20
- Moved the 한자 and keys over onto the CTRL keys as per Windows native shortcuts

5.27.20
- Made the 한자 and 한/영 keys into sublegends on the ALT keys and added back Mac bottom row swaps to the Base kit

5.24.20
- Small correction in the Forties kit posted in OP, was missing a R3 1.5u Function key

5.23.20
- Added blue accents to all kits (GMK V4)
- In a nod to the Korean Kustoms that helped popularize them, F13 and Alice support have been added to the Base kit
- Added 한자 and 한/영 keys in 1u, 1.25u and 1.5u to the Base kit
- Added R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn to the Base kit
- Mac bottom row swaps and off-center 6u spacebar have been removed from the Base kit in order to accommodate the above changes
- Added a Hangul kit with 2nd tab (moved from Base kit)
- Added rudimentary ISO support to the Numpad kit
- Streamlined the Forties kit in a manner similar to GMK Cafe and GMK Apollo
- Changed 화이팅! to 대한민국 (this was much more popular in the poll)
- Added new render on an HBCP
- Added new render on a Planck Hi-Pro
- Added GB date and vendor list
- Updated IC form link with new form. Please fill it out! Link here for convenience.

**Additional note for the person who asked: I considered removing the tertiary legends for a cleaner look (a la GMK Pulse) but decided against it. Sorry.

[OtherAndrew]

kinda dank

edit: im afraid i will have to change my "pretty dank" to a "kinda dank" on account of the centered icon mods

[neojonathan]

대-한-민-국 짝짝짝짝짝

Definitely in

[japanesehorrorwriter]

Yup. Nice. Nice. Nice.

[trg1234]

대-한-민-국 짝짝짝짝짝

Definitely in

짝짝짝짝짝

[mydens]

Quick we need another GMK set, said no one ever.

[Koatl]

Oh **** yo, those trigram keys. I'll pick up like 10 sets of those for sure.

EDIT: I just realized it's not all the trigrams. =[ Oh well, still very cool.

[LightningXI]

오오오오오오오 필승 코리아

Some changes I'd like to suggest / know if it's possible:

- Icon + Text mods
- R5 bottom row
- Inclusion of some blue?

[megaforce]

GMK SKT

[ab042896]

Taegukgi kit is spectacular
+1 on some blue

[ideus]

This coloway is ideal for adding highlights to other sets with enter, esc, backspace and maybe control keys as well. You may want to consider to offer a set for that purpose.

[neojonathan]

Maybe having a 한자 and 한/영 Key might be something to consider ?

[Capsy]

Good set. Keep numpad in base.

[LightningXI]

Maybe having a 한자 and 한/영 Key might be something to consider ?

+1 on this

[blitz]

RAMA keycap of the Taeguk circle please

[Koatl]

RAMA keycap of the Taeguk circle please

+1

[trg1234]

Maybe having a 한자 and 한/영 Key might be something to consider ?

+1 on this

+1 also mebbe korean only legends?

[neojonathan]

Maybe having a 한자 and 한/영 Key might be something to consider ?

+1 on this

+1 also mebbe korean only legends?

+1 on this as well

[DJSwayde]

I need dat Taegukgi kit.

[Kokaloo]

Maybe having a 한자 and 한/영 Key might be something to consider ?

+1 on this

+1 also mebbe korean only legends?

+1 for korean only legends. Would be nice and easy to pair with WoB or other stock set mods!

[fcoury]

Really like this. The only feedback I'd give is I'd love if the numpad kits would have the sublegends like they used to. They look a lot better with the PgUp, PgDn, etc. sublegends.

[LightningXI]

Really like this. The only feedback I'd give is I'd love if the numpad kits would have the sublegends like they used to. They look a lot better with the PgUp, PgDn, etc. sublegends.

Would be +1 on this because it's consistent with how the sublegends add to the main cluster alphas, *unless* a single-legend alphas kit will exist.

[Fredington]

오오오오오오오 필승 코리아

Some changes I'd like to suggest / know if it's possible:

- Icon + Text mods
- R5 bottom row
- Inclusion of some blue?

Let me answer you first, since you asked for blue. This set was very much inspired by the team's current uniforms (red and black), which I feel is a more "modern" look. As such, my design decisions were guided by this "modern" aesthetic. If you look at the uniform in the photo above, you'll notice it doesn't have any extraneous details on it. There are no flourishes or extra style lines. It's just the essentials: team crest, number, kit manufacturer logo, and authenticity tag. Unfortunately because of this...

- There will be no Icon+Text mods
- R0/5 also feels more vintage than modern to me, so no to that as well
- Finally, there will be no blue, other than what's on the deskpad

kinda dank

edit: im afraid i will have to change my "pretty dank" to a "kinda dank" on account of the centered icon mods

Unfortunately, I feel quite strongly about using Janglad's new icon mods to go along with the whole "modern" look I mentioned in my reply to Lightning.

Maybe having a 한자 and 한/영 Key might be something to consider ?

Good suggestion. It will be added.

Good set. Keep numpad in base.

Unfortunately, that probably won't happen.

This coloway is ideal for adding highlights to other sets with enter, esc, backspace and maybe control keys as well. You may want to consider to offer a set for that purpose.

Unfortunately, I think that will be too many kits.

Quick we need another GMK set, said no one ever.

Yes, I realize we are swimming in GMK sets right now. I did consider running this with a different manufacturer, but the depth of saturation of this color and the minimalism of Janglad's new icon mods, pushed my decision towards GMK.

RAMA keycap of the Taeguk circle please

The cap has already been designed. Unfortunately, it won't be the Taeguk. I actually inquired about doing the Taeguk, but it would require the red and blue halves be separated by 0.4mm, which is actually kind of a lot on a keycap.

+1 also mebbe korean only legends?

I would like the look of that. Unfortunately, I am not a great touch typer in English, so that's probably not going to happen. Sorry!

[Fredington]

Really like this. The only feedback I'd give is I'd love if the numpad kits would have the sublegends like they used to. They look a lot better with the PgUp, PgDn, etc. sublegends.

Would be +1 on this because it's consistent with how the sublegends add to the main cluster alphas, *unless* a single-legend alphas kit will exist.

I will consider this change.

[trg1234]

For korean only, I would prefer it as an addition to the novelty kit in white and black. Maybe thats just me.

[suhan]

That concept art so far for the deskmat looks pretty dope

[Aevyn]

Latin only alphas please

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[Fredington]

Latin only alphas please

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No.

[bliss]

Awesome stuff!
Could be my ENDGAME keycaps... I even switched my screen to color mode to view this.

edit
I noticed the banner you provide points to SAIL instead. I fixed mine, it should read:

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[mrkantz]

I think I need this for the red Tengu

[SJHL]

Interested.

[steezkeez]

Though I tend to avoid 'weeb' legends, I've always considered Hangul more aesthetic than Hiragana/Katakana. This set looks pretty dank.

[Ultimatum]

[blitz]

Korean flag desk mat would be hot

[Fredington]

Korean flag desk mat would be hot

That's a little too nail-on-the-head. You could easily get that custom printed yourself, no?

[cptbubbles]

Dunno how I feel about a set named 'Taeguk' without an actual taeguk symbol.

[Fredington]

Dunno how I feel about a set named 'Taeguk' without an actual taeguk symbol.

Well, the team is called the Taeguk Warriors and they don't have a Taeguk on their kits. I agree that it's perhaps not the best name, but I'm not sure what else to call it. Open to suggestions.

[MrCoolPants]

looks ****ing dank. definitely in for a set

[SJHL]

Dunno how I feel about a set named 'Taeguk' without an actual taeguk symbol.

Well, the team is called the Taeguk Warriors and they don't have a Taeguk on their kits. I agree that it's perhaps not the best name, but I'm not sure what else to call it. Open to suggestions.

My suggestion is Red Devils.

[Fredington]

Dunno how I feel about a set named 'Taeguk' without an actual taeguk symbol.

Well, the team is called the Taeguk Warriors and they don't have a Taeguk on their kits. I agree that it's perhaps not the best name, but I'm not sure what else to call it. Open to suggestions.

My suggestion is Red Devils.

Why didn't I think of that...

[blitz]

Dunno how I feel about a set named 'Taeguk' without an actual taeguk symbol.

Well, the team is called the Taeguk Warriors and they don't have a Taeguk on their kits. I agree that it's perhaps not the best name, but I'm not sure what else to call it. Open to suggestions.

My suggestion is Red Devils.

Why didn't I think of that...

Devil novelty Keycap when

Thanks for all the hard work, btw! Endgame set for sure.

[Fredington]

Dunno how I feel about a set named 'Taeguk' without an actual taeguk symbol.

Well, the team is called the Taeguk Warriors and they don't have a Taeguk on their kits. I agree that it's perhaps not the best name, but I'm not sure what else to call it. Open to suggestions.

My suggestion is Red Devils.

Why didn't I think of that...

Devil novelty Keycap when

Thanks for all the hard work, btw! Endgame set for sure.

Better as a sculpted artisan I think...like a dokkaebi.

[HungHingDaiLo]

TAEGUKGI IS LIT
Lovin the Ba Gua application there!

[hineybush]

i like those novelties!

[Sunhwan Jeong]

Nicely done mate, but the Title "Taeguk" is weird.
As you know, The pattern "Taeguk" often refers to "three-Taeguk" in the form of a mixture of blue, red, and yellow, or "Taeguk" in the form of a circle of red / blue. However, there are no elements representing these "Taeguk" in these set, and titles like "red devils" are more appropriate.

I'm looking forward to this set. thanks!

[chanchan]

Really love this- especially the Hangul sublegends

[psxndc]

A note about the red: It’s really more of a deep pink almost, a very pleasing hue if I do say so myself.

This is my only concern. The keys in the renders look RED. The pantone chip as you say looks a fair amount lighter. My preference is for what's in the renders, but that's just me. But love the idea behind the set.

[Koatl]

TAEGUKGI IS LIT
Lovin the Ba Gua application there!

Yeah, badass. Wish we could get the 4 missing trigrams though. Any chance of that? So close to full bagua.

[Fredington]

TAEGUKGI IS LIT
Lovin the Ba Gua application there!

Yeah, badass. Wish we could get the 4 missing trigrams though. Any chance of that? So close to full bagua.

I will consider this addition but need to work out key placement and how many keys it will actually add to the kit.

[lush_bunny]

If the red irl can actually match the red of the renders... I might actually take this over GMK Classic Red, ceteris paribus (all other things equal).

[Fredington]

Name has been updated.

If the red irl can actually match the red of the renders... I might actually take this over GMK Classic Red, ceteris paribus (all other things equal).

It's the same color. It's just the lighting I took the picture in makes it look more pink. It's a hard color to capture, for sure. I added an image to the OP that shows how the color looks on Pantone's website.

[Capsy]

Red devils? That'd be confusing because the football equivalent of red devils is Manchester United

[Fredington]

Red devils? That'd be confusing because the football equivalent of red devils is Manchester United

Well, fans expecting Man U can be pleasantly surprised then.

[neojonathan]

붉은악마 YESSSSS

[lush_bunny]

Name has been updated.

If the red irl can actually match the red of the renders... I might actually take this over GMK Classic Red, ceteris paribus (all other things equal).

It's the same color. It's just the lighting I took the picture in makes it look more pink. It's a hard color to capture, for sure. I added a image to the OP that shows how the color looks on Pantone's website.

Sooo not quite red then? Here’s the thing: I still want it. And now I have to save up for both this and Classic Red please take your time good sir.

[adxlk]

isnt red devils more manchester united?

[Fredington]

isnt red devils more manchester united?

Depends what part of the world you're from I guess.

[Koatl]

Bagua request...

I will consider this addition but need to work out key placement and how many keys it will actually add to the kit.

Thank you! I very much appreciate it. I'm getting this regardless, but if full bagua you can guarantee MOQ as I'll buy a bunch of kits myself.

[LightningXI]

isnt red devils more manchester united?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Devils_(supporters_club)

[SJHL]

Name has been updated.

If the red irl can actually match the red of the renders... I might actually take this over GMK Classic Red, ceteris paribus (all other things equal).

It's the same color. It's just the lighting I took the picture in makes it look more pink. It's a hard color to capture, for sure. I added an image to the OP that shows how the color looks on Pantone's website.

 

[Fredington]

Bagua request...

I will consider this addition but need to work out key placement and how many keys it will actually add to the kit.

Thank you! I very much appreciate it. I'm getting this regardless, but if full bagua you can guarantee MOQ as I'll buy a bunch of kits myself.

The problem with Bagua is that the meanings of the trigrams change from when there's only 4. On top of that, it also changes based on which version of the Bagua you choose, Earlier Heaven or Later Heaven. At that point, it's starting to get away from the point of the set in the first place.

[Koatl]

The problem with Bagua is that the meanings of the trigrams change from when there's only 4. On top of that, it also changes based on which version of the Bagua you choose, Earlier Heaven or Later Heaven. At that point, it's starting to get away from the point of the set in the first place.

For sure. I think Wen is more common but the math of Fu Xi makes a lot more sense.

Anyway I hear you. True true. Happy to have any trigrams on my board. ^__^ Thanks for putting this out.

[awwshyuks]

Love this. Tiger logo RAMA?

[Fredington]

Love this. Tiger logo RAMA?

Already in the works.

[Rob27shred]

Not a soccer fan, but I am a fan of this set! Looks great, hopefully I can get in on it when it's in GB!

[hkiri]

cries in iso

[FredBananaz]

Not to be a buzzkill, but I'm pretty sure the Red Devils is the name of the Belgian national soccer team. As a Belgian, I was surprised to see someone having an IC for our national team, until I was and recognized the first render.

[Fredington]

isnt red devils more manchester united?

Depends what part of the world you're from I guess.

Not to be a buzzkill, but I'm pretty sure the Red Devils is the name of the Belgian national soccer team. As a Belgian, I was surprised to see someone having an IC for our national team, until I was and recognized the first render.

Case in point.

It's a non-issue to me, really. There are more than a dozen professional teams with Red Devil as their nickname, as you can see from the below list from Wikipedia:



Who's to say one has more of a right to the name than the other?

[adxlk]

Fair play, good luck with IC!

[hyppialonso]

Please consider adding a Referee Byron Moreno key to the Taegukgi

[Fredington]

Please consider adding a Referee Byron Moreno key to the Taegukgi

lol why don't I just add a salty key in Italy colors? That way people asking for blue can be satisfied too.

[Fredington]

Deskpad renders have been added to the OP.

Also want to take some time to give a quick summary of the changes/additions that are confirmed and that are under consideration:

Confirmed Changes/Additions:

- R4 한자 and 한/영 keys, just not sure which sizes they will be yet
- A couple of blue keys in the Taegukgi kit, since the flag does have blue on it (no, there won't be a salty key in Italy colors, that was a joke). And when I say a couple, I do mean only a couple. It definitely won't have full accent coverage like the 40s kit. So probably R1 Esc and R3 Enter for sure, maybe numpad Enter as well.

Changes/Additions Under Consideration:

- Navigational sublegends on the numpad keys
- F13 key in base kit
- Mono Hangul kit in red? TBH, I'm doubtful this kit can make MOQ. Plus, it would require new molds on GMK's part, which means higher prices across all kits.
- Changing 화이팅 to 대한민국. Someone suggested this in the IC form. I went with 화이팅 initially because it makes the set a little less serious, even if it's a little cheesy. 대한민국 feels much more serious for some reason, although I can understand why some people would prefer it. I'm not opposed to this change but wanted to put it out there and let you guys discuss.

I've created a new form to gather some data on the above proposals. Please take some time to fill it out!

[cptbubbles]

Great to see improvements being made to this kit!
Any chance the Red Devils logo can be incorporated onto the desk pad?

[Fredington]

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Great to see improvements being made to this kit!
Any chance the Red Devils logo can be incorporated onto the desk pad?

Would that be a copyright issue? I was instead hoping that someone could create an artisan sculpt of something similar, but I'm not too familiar with the various artisan makers out there. If someone could help point me in the right direction that would be helpful.

[isaackang7]

Add a taeguek symbol and devil symbol key and it seems good!


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[Fredington]

Add a taeguek symbol and devil symbol key and it seems good!


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Taeguk is not possible without tripleshot capabilities. It would have to be an artisan, perhaps of a Korean drum. 

[manaorme]

I still remember 2002 in Korea.
Everyone was in red t-shirt.
I'll gonna wait for this gb, lots of interest!

[SJHL]

Deskpad renders have been added to the OP.

Also want to take some time to give a quick summary of the changes/additions that are confirmed and that are under consideration:

Confirmed Changes/Additions:

- R4 한자 and 한/영 keys, just not sure which sizes they will be yet
- A couple of blue keys in the Taegukgi kit, since the flag does have blue on it (no, there won't be a salty key in Italy colors, that was a joke). And when I say a couple, I do mean only a couple. It definitely won't have full accent coverage like the 40s kit. So probably R1 Esc and R3 Enter for sure, maybe numpad Enter as well.

Changes/Additions Under Consideration:

- Navigational sublegends on the numpad keys
- F13 key in base kit
- Mono Hangul kit in red? TBH, I'm doubtful this kit can make MOQ. Plus, it would require new molds on GMK's part, which means higher prices across all kits.
- Changing 화이팅 to 대한민국. Someone suggested this in the IC form. I went with 화이팅 initially because it makes the set a little less serious, even if it's a little cheesy. 대한민국 feels much more serious for some reason, although I can understand why some people would prefer it. I'm not opposed to this change but wanted to put it out there and let you guys discuss.

I've created a new form to gather some data on the above proposals. Please take some time to fill it out!

Would 대한민국 have the same font style as 화이팅?

[Fredington]

Changes/Additions Under Consideration:

- Changing 화이팅 to 대한민국. Someone suggested this in the IC form. I went with 화이팅 initially because it makes the set a little less serious, even if it's a little cheesy. 대한민국 feels much more serious for some reason, although I can understand why some people would prefer it. I'm not opposed to this change but wanted to put it out there and let you guys discuss.

I've created a new form to gather some data on the above proposals. Please take some time to fill it out!

Would 대한민국 have the same font style as 화이팅?

Yes.

[Fredington]

Changes/Additions Under Consideration:

- Changing 화이팅 to 대한민국. Someone suggested this in the IC form. I went with 화이팅 initially because it makes the set a little less serious, even if it's a little cheesy. 대한민국 feels much more serious for some reason, although I can understand why some people would prefer it. I'm not opposed to this change but wanted to put it out there and let you guys discuss.

I've created a new form to gather some data on the above proposals. Please take some time to fill it out!

Would 대한민국 have the same font style as 화이팅?

Yes.

This is what it would look like:

[sanryu]

2002 T-shirt

[Heiser]

Definitely UP for this! love the concept

[yhehdgjs]

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Great to see improvements being made to this kit!
Any chance the Red Devils logo can be incorporated onto the desk pad?

Yeah, wanna see this symbols in Novelty kit if there is no issue with copyrights.

[rmendis]

Nice set. Would join

[amuri99]

pretty set! need join,.

[tofulo]

been looking for an awesome hangul set like this

[D3LTA]

+1 also mebbe korean only legends?

I would like the look of that. Unfortunately, I am not a great touch typer in English, so that's probably not going to happen. Sorry!

have you considered a standalone alphas kit with korean only legends. For those touch typers out there, I can see this being a very nice option.

[Heiser]

Ahhhhhhhh!!! I can't wait for this!!!! <3 <3

[mimalik]

Red Devils in football context and not referring to Manchester United........thats not right.

[Fredington]

Red Devils in football context and not referring to Manchester United........thats not right.

According to which authority?

[mimalik]

Red Devils in football context and not referring to Manchester United........thats not right.

According to which authority?

Red Devils in football context and not referring to Manchester United........thats not right.

According to which authority?

Anyone who knows anything about football
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C.
Check out their nickname n red devil in emblem, this is good set, dont think that I am trolling, just that when I saw Red Devil, first thing that came to mind was Man Utd FC.

[Fredington]

Red Devils in football context and not referring to Manchester United........thats not right.

According to which authority?

Red Devils in football context and not referring to Manchester United........thats not right.

According to which authority?

Anyone who knows anything about football
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C.
Check out their nickname n red devil in emblem, this is good set, dont think that I am trolling, just that when I saw Red Devil, first thing that came to mind was Man Utd FC.

Sorry, I am unconvinced. This topic has already been addressed earlier in this thread.

The only thing I will add to it is that if anyone has the rights to the name (if that's even a thing) is the Belgian national team, which has gone by that nickname since 1905, long before Man U was given the name in 1934.

[Visionaire]

Ultimate challenge: fill your board with half of this set and half of Striker. Follow an actual match between the two teams and adjust the colors to reflect who is winning at the time. At the end of the match, the winner fills all slots.

[Sunhwan Jeong]

If you refer to 'Pulse' or 'BLINK', I think it is cleaner to subtract the engraved consonants such as ㅃㅉㄸㄲ ㅆ. This neatness is a favorite among Koreans.

[Fredington]

+1 also mebbe korean only legends?

I would like the look of that. Unfortunately, I am not a great touch typer in English, so that's probably not going to happen. Sorry!

have you considered a standalone alphas kit with korean only legends. For those touch typers out there, I can see this being a very nice option.

Yes, this is under consideration.

[Acabi]

Looks amazing looking forward to a nice bright red set

[mrkantz]

Really looking forward to this set

[Jaltr]

I need this!
Not into novelties for any set, but this is a must for sure:) A lot of Korea inspired sets coming out and I'm all for them.

[synthtastic]

Really looking forward to this. Love the vibrant red!

[YangYoga]

For the novelties it would be super amazing if you added the missing parts from the Ba Gua of Daoism   

[SMOKEY]

I've been following this for a while now.
I'm in for a base and novelties.
This kit is wonderful to pair with BoW and WoB!

[2003987]

Well if anyone still remember this......

nice colorway though, but im not buying coz above.

[Fredington]

Hi all,

Finally back with some updates. Massive thanks to Janglad for banging these out. OP has been updated with the below.

This set will be run in September with the following vendors:

NA: TXKeyboards
Canada: DeskHero
EU: MyKeyboards
Asia: iLumkb
Oceania: DailyClack

Changelog [also posted in the 2nd post (reserved) on the 1st page under the OP]:

- Added blue accents to all kits (GMK V4)
- In a nod to the Korean Kustoms that helped popularize them, F13 and Alice support have been added to the Base kit
- Added 한자 and 한/영 keys in 1u, 1.25u and 1.5u to the Base kit
- Added R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn to the Base kit
- Mac bottom row swaps and off-center 6u spacebar have been removed from the Base kit in order to accommodate the above changes
- Added a Hangul kit with 2nd tab (moved from Base kit)
- Added rudimentary ISO support to the Numpad kit
- Streamlined the Forties kit in a manner similar to GMK Cafe and GMK Apollo
- Changed 화이팅! to 대한민국 (this was much more popular in the poll)
- Added new render on an HBCP
- Added new render on a Planck Hi-Pro
- Added GB date and vendor list
- Updated IC form link with new form. Please fill it out! Link here for convenience.

**Additional note for the person who asked: I considered removing the tertiary legends for a cleaner look (a la GMK Pulse) but decided against it. Sorry.

And without further ado, updated kits:







And updated renders:

[Blvck.-]

Every time I see this kit I get more excited for it, Thanks for the update everything looks amazing keep up the good work. 

[Fredington]

A small correction to the Forties kit has been posted in the OP. Previously, it was missing a R3 1.5u Function key:

[2003987]

I still remember 2002 in Korea.
Everyone was in red t-shirt.
I'll gonna wait for this gb, lots of interest!

Lol 2002 fight club, what a great team.

[2003987]

Please consider adding a Referee Byron Moreno key to the Taegukgi

Novelties should include Bryon Moreno and Korean Won. Red Devils in terms of breaking legs lol.

[frasnow]

Ignore the troll. Should take his disappointment elsewhere. Such an incredible set for a great team.

Any chance we could get row numbers for the novelties? Image makes it look like all rows are covered, but render on arrows indicates four row 4 keys.

[Fredington]

Ignore the troll. Should take his disappointment elsewhere. Such an incredible set for a great team.

Any chance we could get row numbers for the novelties? Image makes it look like all rows are covered, but render on arrows indicates four row 4 keys.

It's 1-2-3-4 in the novelty kit.

[Pluto19]

Any chance of making one of each size 'Alt' an 'Alt Gr' instead of having all of them just 'Alt'?
Also ~ any chance of having a full WKL bottom row mods with Hangul only? (ie adding one more pair of 1.5u Hangul mods)

[Fredington]

For the novelties it would be super amazing if you added the missing parts from the Ba Gua of Daoism   

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This has already been discussed in this thread. The answer is no as per below quote:

The problem with Bagua is that the meanings of the trigrams change from when there's only 4. On top of that, it also changes based on which version of the Bagua you choose, Earlier Heaven or Later Heaven. At that point, it's starting to get away from the point of the set in the first place.

Well if anyone still remember this......

nice colorway though, but im not buying coz above.

Perhaps I will add a salty key in blue for Italy.

Any chance of making one of each size 'Alt' an 'Alt Gr' instead of having all of them just 'Alt'?
Also ~ any chance of having a full WKL bottom row mods with Hangul only? (ie adding one more pair of 1.5u Hangul mods)

No.

[Pluto19]

Any chance of making one of each size 'Alt' an 'Alt Gr' instead of having all of them just 'Alt'?
Also ~ any chance of having a full WKL bottom row mods with Hangul only? (ie adding one more pair of 1.5u Hangul mods)

No.

Lame.

[Fredington]

After some thought, I realized there's a more elegant way to accomplish the 한자 and 한/영 keys than giving them dedicated keys and that's to deploy them as sublegends on ALT, especially since most of our keyboards don't have 4 keys on either side of the spacebar like actual Korean keyboards do. This will eliminate the need to choose which key to leave out as well as allowing the Mac bottom row swaps to be brought back into the kit while making the kit a bit trimmer overall.

I've updated the base kit render below. Keyboard render updates will come later.

[tofulo]

I am loving these blue accents!

[PoohGom]

After some thought, I realized there's a more elegant way to accomplish the 한자 and 한/영 keys than giving them dedicated keys and that's to deploy them as sublegends on ALT, especially since most of our keyboards don't have 4 keys on either side of the spacebar like actual Korean keyboards do. This will eliminate the need to choose which key to leave out as well as allowing the Mac bottom row swaps to be brought back into the kit while making the kit a bit trimmer overall.

I've updated the base kit render below. Keyboard render updates will come later.

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I honestly liked the old version better when it was just the 한자 and 한/영, to me the new version seems a bit to cluttered. Maybe just the 한자 and 한/영 keys can be in the Korean only alphas kit? I still like the set regardless.

[dbjowett]

After some thought, I realized there's a more elegant way to accomplish the 한자 and 한/영 keys than giving them dedicated keys and that's to deploy them as sublegends on ALT, especially since most of our keyboards don't have 4 keys on either side of the spacebar like actual Korean keyboards do. This will eliminate the need to choose which key to leave out as well as allowing the Mac bottom row swaps to be brought back into the kit while making the kit a bit trimmer overall.

I've updated the base kit render below. Keyboard render updates will come later.

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I honestly liked the old version better when it was just the 한자 and 한/영, to me the new version seems a bit to cluttered. Maybe just the 한자 and 한/영 keys can be in the Korean only alphas kit? I still like the set regardless.

I 100% agree with this.

[cptbubbles]

Love how this set is developing over the course of the IC.

I would like to add to the comments regarding 한/영 and 한자 keys though.

In most Korean keyboard layouts 한/영 and 한자 replace right alt and right ctrl rather than be placed on the opposite sides of each other.
I'm sure a layout like the current state of the kit does exist but I've yet to see one in person.

Attaching image of how Leopold does it:

[Fredington]

Love how this set is developing over the course of the IC.

I would like to add to the comments regarding 한/영 and 한자 keys though.

In most Korean keyboard layouts 한/영 and 한자 replace right alt and right ctrl rather than be placed on the opposite sides of each other.
I'm sure a layout like the current state of the kit does exist but I've yet to see one in person.

Attaching image of how Leopold does it:

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Thanks for the image! I've actually been looking at more mainstream membranes from Samsung and QSENN and older keyboards like this guy:



This is the most common layout that I've seen, but perhaps the Leopold is a more modern way of doing it. I think I prefer the more symmetrical version like I have it now.

[mr_fro2000]

Yah, I also like the current implementation much better! 

[kokugatsu]

I like the set, but the name reminds me more of Manchester United than the Korean team

[SMOKEY]

I like the set, but the name reminds me more of Manchester United than the Korean team

Awww sh** here we go again

[Jaxxstatic]

This is the most common layout that I've seen, but perhaps the Leopold is a more modern way of doing it. I think I prefer the more symmetrical version like I have it now.

It's about functionality, though. When you type in Korean, what do you use to switch to Hangul? What do you use to switch to Hanja?
The typical Windows commands are Shift+Left Alt to switch keyboard language, Right Alt to switch from Romanized letters to Hangul, and Right Control to switch to Hanja.

Please reconsider putting the 한자 sublegend on Control.

[Fredington]

This is the most common layout that I've seen, but perhaps the Leopold is a more modern way of doing it. I think I prefer the more symmetrical version like I have it now.

It's about functionality, though. When you type in Korean, what do you use to switch to Hangul? What do you use to switch to Hanja?
The typical Windows commands are Shift+Left Alt to switch keyboard language, Right Alt to switch from Romanized letters to Hangul, and Right Control to switch to Hanja.

Please reconsider putting the 한자 sublegend on Control.

Ah, see I didn't know about those shortcuts, partly because I'm on OS X and use the menu bar to switch inputs like a boomer. CTRL it is:

[Jaxxstatic]

Ah, see I didn't know about those shortcuts, partly because I'm on OS X and use the menu bar to switch inputs like a boomer. CTRL it is:

Thank you!

[Fredington]

Actually, something else occurred to me after moving 한자 to CTRL...if you're using the mono Hangul kit, is the assumption that you're typing mostly in Korean and therefore have little use for 한/영? If so, would you guys prefer a set of clean ALTs in the Hangul kit like below?

[PoohGom]

Actually, something else occurred to me after moving 한자 to CTRL...if you're using the mono Hangul kit, is the assumption that you're typing mostly in Korean and therefore have little use for 한/영? If so, would you guys prefer a set of clean ALTs in the Hangul kit like below?

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I'd much rather have the Hangul kit be a full alpha's kit with numbers and other punctuation keys so that I can use it with another set of mods.

[Blvck.-]

Any eta on GB yet?

[chowbabyloving]

Any eta on GB yet?

I think the ETA is still September 2020?

[konstantin]

I always recommend including basic 4-key ISO support in the base kit. But even you decide to keep the ISO keys in a child kit, please consider using the more appropriate R3 \|₩, R4 <> combination instead of R3 #~, R4 \|₩. For an example, take a look at GMK Blink, another recent set that uses Hangul sublegends. Take a look at these posts for an explanation on why I consider these keys to be more useful/appropriate, as well as some relevant usage data. I believe this is pertinent for a set like this, since Korean keyboards always have the \|₩ key adjacent to Enter.

[Fredington]

Actually, something else occurred to me after moving 한자 to CTRL...if you're using the mono Hangul kit, is the assumption that you're typing mostly in Korean and therefore have little use for 한/영? If so, would you guys prefer a set of clean ALTs in the Hangul kit like below?

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I'd much rather have the Hangul kit be a full alpha's kit with numbers and other punctuation keys so that I can use it with another set of mods.

That won't happen, sorry.

I always recommend including basic 4-key ISO support in the base kit. But even you decide to keep the ISO keys in a child kit, please consider using the more appropriate R3 \|₩, R4 <> combination instead of R3 #~, R4 \|₩. For an example, take a look at GMK Blink, another recent set that uses Hangul sublegends. Take a look at these posts for an explanation on why I consider these keys to be more useful/appropriate, as well as some relevant usage data. I believe this is pertinent for a set like this, since Korean keyboards always have the \|₩ key adjacent to Enter.

Yes, it's my intention to change the ISO keys to terminal style as you've described.

In other news, the RAMA cap will be unveiled soon. A Salvun cap is in the works, as well.

[Fredington]

As promised, here is the RAMA cap:

[tofulo]

Damn that rama cap looks amazing

[Fredington]

Hi all,

I have some good news and some bad news, so first, the good news:

Below is an illustration of the Salvun cap while we wait for him to make samples. It will be copper with black cerakote:



Now for the bad news:

We got first round pricing back from GMK and it came in a bit higher than expected. The Numpad+ISO kit was the worst offender and the vendors and I highly doubt it will make MOQ in its current form. In order to achieve the best balance of price and compatibility, we're proposing to make the following changes:

- Integrate numpad and ISO into the Base kit
- Change ISO legends to terminal-style (# of keys remains the same)
- Drop Mac bottom row swaps
- Move Alice support and 6u spacebars into a separate Spacebars kit
- Drop the 40s kit (unfortunately, interest for this was pretty low, especially since Alice support was originally provided in the Base kit and now will be present in the Spacebars kit)
- Taegukgi kit remains unchanged

Please use this new form to provide feedback!

Below is how the new kits will look:









My sincerest apologies to those looking forward to the previous kits. I was really excited about them myself, but like I said I think this new structure will service the greatest number of people for the best overall price.

If you made it this far, thank you for sticking with us!

[konstantin]

New kits look great. Terminal gang! Consider including 1.25c space (and maybe 1c too) in the spacebars kit.

[Fredington]

...and including 1.25c space (and maybe 1c too) in the spacebars kit.

Are those useful outside a 40s kit?

[konstantin]

Are those useful outside a 40s kit?

Yes. 1.25c is useful for common split spacebar configurations (2.75–1.25–2.25 and 2.25–1.25–2.75), as well as Alice layouts (2–1.25 left space); and 1c is also useful for Alice layouts (2.25–1 left space).

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

...and including 1.25c space (and maybe 1c too) in the spacebars kit.

Are those useful outside a 40s kit?

Keebio's Sinc and Quefrency both can use a 1.25u space too.

[itsslim]

September can’t come soon enough

[frankfrankfrank]

Really stoked for this, thanks for the update

[SMOKEY]

Can't wait to buy! my wallet is ready!

[Fredington]

Hi all,

Due to the likelihood of a white deskmat getting dirty very easily, I've decided to change the colors around a bit and want to put the below two colorways to a vote:

Red



Black



Please vote here.

In other news, we are finalizing the kits, getting updated renders, and an additional RAMA cap will soon be revealed.

[itsbeard]

Both look great! I'm happy with either winning, good call on pulling white.

[Jaxxstatic]

Are those useful outside a 40s kit?

Yes. 1.25c is useful for common split spacebar configurations (2.75–1.25–2.25 and 2.25–1.25–2.75), as well as Alice layouts (2–1.25 left space); and 1c is also useful for Alice layouts (2.25–1 left space).

Alice layout left space is 2u or 2.25u. The only R4 1.75u key on the layout is split right shift.

[konstantin]

Yes. 1.25c is useful for common split spacebar configurations (2.75–1.25–2.25 and 2.25–1.25–2.75), as well as Alice layouts (2–1.25 left space); and 1c is also useful for Alice layouts (2.25–1 left space).

Alice layout left space is 2u or 2.25u. The only R4 1.75u key on the layout is split right shift.

Correct, that's in line with what I said. I did not mention any R4 1.75u keys.

[Jaxxstatic]

Yes. 1.25c is useful for common split spacebar configurations (2.75–1.25–2.25 and 2.25–1.25–2.75), as well as Alice layouts (2–1.25 left space); and 1c is also useful for Alice layouts (2.25–1 left space).

Alice layout left space is 2u or 2.25u. The only R4 1.75u key on the layout is split right shift.

Correct, that's in line with what I said. I did not mention any R4 1.75u keys.

ah! my bad. You meant for the 1.25u key to the right of the 2.25u spacebar key?

[konstantin]

ah! my bad. You meant for the 1.25u key to the right of the 2.25u spacebar key?

I was saying that 1.25u and 1u convex keys would be nice to have as they would allow Alice users to cover both of the possible left spacebar layouts with all convex keys (2.25c + 1c or 2c + 1.25c) In addition to this, 1.25c is useful for other stuff as well, as previously mentioned.

[Fredington]

Hi all,

Thank you for your patience. Kits have been finalized and we are awaiting quotes from GMK, as well as updated keyboard renders.

Kits

Changelog:
- Changed R3 1.75u Control text to icon for more consistent look with lefthand mods
- Changed F-row Lock to Scroll
- Removed 00 key since standalone numpads are pretty rare overall
- Removed 2nd Tab and extra ALT keys from Hangul kit to keep cost down
- Hangul kit legend size/weight have been revised to be more in line with cherry standards
- Added 1u and 1.25u blanks to Spacebars kit, as well as a 2nd mono ㅠ key











Deskmat

The deskmat poll was overwhelmingly in favor of the black background (4:1), so that's what we'll be moving forward with. However, I found myself missing the white, so I've added the trigrams which I think gives it that much needed finishing touch.




Salvun Artisan

I realized that a copper artisan might get a bit lost with an all red set, so I've changed the base metal to aluminum for maximum visibility. The black will be anodized. Thanks to konstantin for pointing this out. Again, below is a placeholder image which will be replaced once Salvun provides a photograph of the actual sample!




Additional RAMA Artisan & Poll - Taeguk

And for the final piece of news, I submitted two designs for a 2nd RAMA artisan and I'm having trouble deciding between the two, so I'm running another poll. Please go here to vote for your preference between the two options below:

[Blvck.-]

Everything looks amazing, this is the only gmk set I'm waiting on keep up the good work. 

[konstantin]

Great update

[mosekiah]

Thank you for the update. I'm stoked and can't wait for September!

[manaorme]

Option2 reminds me pepsi logo
I think no separation or minimizing it will be better

[Fredington]

Option2 reminds me pepsi logo
I think no separation or minimizing it will be better

The poll seems to be going in that direction as of now.

[Minam]

Everything looks great! I still remember the 2002 world cup when I was 5!

Is it possible to have a deskmat where the background is white instead of black and the black lines on the flag can be done in black? I think that would look great and look like the flag.

[manaorme]

Hi all,

Thank you for your patience. Kits have been finalized and we are awaiting quotes from GMK, as well as updated keyboard renders.

Kits

Changelog:
- Changed R3 1.75u Control text to icon for more consistent look with lefthand mods
- Changed F-row Lock to Scroll
- Removed 00 key since standalone numpads are pretty rare overall
- Removed 2nd Tab and extra ALT keys from Hangul kit to keep cost down
- Hangul kit legend size/weight have been revised to be more in line with cherry standards
- Added 1u and 1.25u blanks to Spacebars kit, as well as a 2nd mono ㅠ key

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Deskmat

The deskmat poll was overwhelmingly in favor of the black background (4:1), so that's what we'll be moving forward with. However, I found myself missing the white, so I've added the trigrams which I think gives it that much needed finishing touch.

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Salvun Artisan

I realized that a copper artisan might get a bit lost with an all red set, so I've changed the base metal to aluminum for maximum visibility. The black will be anodized. Thanks to konstantin for pointing this out. Again, below is a placeholder image which will be replaced once Salvun provides a photograph of the actual sample!

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Additional RAMA Artisan & Poll - Taeguk

And for the final piece of news, I submitted two designs for a 2nd RAMA artisan and I'm having trouble deciding between the two, so I'm running another poll. Please go here to vote for your preference between the two options below:

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Oh, I liked the copper one, but never mind. Alu will be less expensive, isn't it?

I am not sure how Salvun artisan will look like in real, but is it similar to rama artisan? I mean will dokkaebi in flat design or 'cut in groove'(=sculpted?). I want to fill dokkaebi with white enamel paint.

[Fredington]

Everything looks great! I still remember the 2002 world cup when I was 5!

Is it possible to have a deskmat where the background is white instead of black and the black lines on the flag can be done in black! I think that would look great and look like the flag!

A white deskmat would get dirty very easily.

Salvun Artisan

I realized that a copper artisan might get a bit lost with an all red set, so I've changed the base metal to aluminum for maximum visibility. The black will be anodized. Thanks to konstantin for pointing this out. Again, below is a placeholder image which will be replaced once Salvun provides a photograph of the actual sample!

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Oh, I liked the copper one, but never mind. Alu will be less expensive, isn't it?

I am not sure how Salvun artisan will look like in real, but is it similar to rama artisan? I mean will dokkaebi in flat design or 'cut in groove'(=sculpted?). I want to fill dokkaebi with white enamel paint.

It will be relatively flat.

[tofulo]

Really hope wish September got here sooner. I am trying to be patient and limit the GBs I join, but it gets harder every day.

[solomonshv]

we're getting pepsi artisans? sweet!

[Fredington]

Hi all,

First up in updates today, Option 1 has won out over Option 2 by a factor of 3-2, so we will proceed with Option 1:





Second and more importantly, I'm considering changing the style of the mods to traditional icon+text!

Now, I know this is a pretty major change so late into the IC, but my original idea for the set was a modern interpretation of the team uniform using the black instead of the blue, so the more "modern" icons made sense. Now that the blue has been added, the original idea has been a bit muddled, and so I've become open to the idea of traditional icon+text, which a number of you have requested.

I didn't intend to run this many polls in one IC, but you guys have consistently surprised me with a high response rate, for which I am grateful. So here's one last poll to decide the style of mods. Hopefully, we can make the set the best it can be for the most amount of people!

Poll has also been added to the OP.

[LightningXI]

Traditional icon plus text is the way.
(pls)

[Rafa_n]

Do you have the whole GMK Color Ring? Could you take some pictures with RO2, V1 and P3 next to your pantone swatch?

[Fredington]

Do you have the whole GMK Color Ring? Could you take some pictures with RO2, V1 and P3 next to your pantone swatch?

Indirect sunlight through window:



P3 is darker and V1 is more orange. RO2 is pretty close but still a bit more red than the Pantone, which skews pink.

In other news, the results of the poll confirm that the mods will stay as is (center aligned), with over 65% of the votes. Thank you to everyone who voted.

In terms of GB preparations, I am currently waiting on GMK to provide me with the Hangul SVG file so I can make adjustments for the new mono legends. Once finished, I'll provide the template to Janglad and we can hopefully get some updated renders.

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

great pic, thank you

[ownnij]

hurry up, i need these!

[Fredington]

Hi all,

Big update today, so let's get into it...

The GB will run from September 2-30! Pricing table is below and will be updated as they get finalized during the next week:



NOTE ABOUT PRICING: I know many of you were disappointed that the Numpad+ISO kit was added to the Base kit, but as a standalone kit, it would have cost a prohibitive $55, whereas adding it to the base kit resulted in only a $10 increase.

Finally, we have updated renders:

Kits





NOTE ABOUT HANGUL KIT: The primary legends (top left corner) have been slightly enlarged and bolded (compared to how they are as sublegends) to be more in line with cherry conventions. They will not however, be as bold as the standard Latin legends, as it would not look appropriate for Hangul.





Deskmat







Boards

















As always, OP has been updated with the above.

[konstantin]

Based kitting

[yookwh]

Love this, will definitely get in on it. Would you consider doing it a set in the future with dark blue/white?

[Blvck.-]

Is there any ETA on when the kit ships?

[Fredington]

Is there any ETA on when the kit ships?

Best estimate right now is May 2021.

[archerypro459]

Latin alphas please I will pay 1 billion

[tofulo]

Damn, the base is expensive af, but fukit I'm in!

[Fredington]

Damn, the base is expensive af, but fukit I'm in!

Are you sure you're looking at the price and not the MOQ?

[mrkantz]

Stoked for this, kits and price look great to me!

[Fredington]

Added NA pricing for artisans and deskmat to OP.

[Fredington]

Hi all,

Just a friendly reminder that the GB will start tomorrow, 9/2!

Below is the current pricing table. Unfortunately, I'm still waiting on a few prices to be submitted, but I will update those as soon as I am able:



Salvun is also working on the samples as I'm writing this, so those photos should be available soon, as well.

Once all prices, sample photos, and product page links have been confirmed, the GB thread will be submitted.

Again, the estimated ship date is May 2021.

[nsyinc]

pricing image needs fixing.

[Fredington]

pricing image needs fixing.

Fixed and added more prices. GB thread is actually live now so I'll be locking this soon.