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Offline dw_junon

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Does anyone have any experience with anything like this?





http://search.ebay.com/200306515165

The plug and layout broadly suggest plain ol' AT, but the arrow keys with extra home key are pretty unusual (and no eight directions...).  Also what appears to be a fourth LED; "Power"?

The keycap text typeface (and the idea of a fourth LED) seems reminiscent of mid eighties HP keyboards, any connection there?
ARC/Chicony KB-5181 XT/AT blue ALPS? 101 US FCC ID E8H51KKB-5181 • AST ASTKB102 AT capacitive rubber dome 102 UK ISO
Cherry G80-2100 AT black Cherry 126 key German ISO unique • Compaq Enhanced III PS/2 unknown rubber dome 102 UK ISO
Datacomp DFK102ARA03 AT 102 blue ALPS? US/Arabic FCC ID blank, S/N 37880001 • Dell AT102W PS/2 Black ALPS 105 UK ISO x2
Fujitsu KFB4725-102 AT membrane rubber dome with spring 105 UK ISO • Hewlett Packard C1405A AT rubber dome 102 UK ISO
IBM 0989705 XT/AT no LEDs Model M 102 US/Arabic  • IBM 1388076 Industrial AT Model M 102 UK ISO
IBM 1389260 3179/3180 Display Station Model M 122 US 3270 x2 • IBM 1391406 PS/2 Model M 102 UK ISO x2
IBM 1397003 PS/2 Model M "Host Connect" emulator 122 German ISO • IBM 71G4643 PS/2 Model M Quiet Touch "Ouch!    Rubber spring" 102 UK ISO x2
IBM 5640987 3178 Display Station Model C2 capacitive buckling spring 87 key US 3270 • IBM 556-712-01 RT PC rubber dome [same as 2nd PCjr kbd?] 101 US
IBM 6450225 PC/AT capacitive buckling spring 84 key UK PC/AT • Lexmark 8125460 Model M2 102 UK ISO
NMB RT-102 117456-002 AT Hi-Tek black, clicky 102 UK ISO • Olivetti ANK 2462 M24 Personal Computer keyboard 2 clicky Olivetti spring module 102 UK unique
Ortek MCK-142Pro AT white ALPS 142 key UK • Sun 540-1006-03 Type unknown linear(?) keyswitch 2 87 key SunType2
Wang 724 725-3771-UK salmon ALPS 110 key UK Wang724 • Making this list hasn\'t half scared me...
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Laser brand keyboard - XT/AT/? 101 with IBM terminal style arrow layout
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 11 February 2009, 21:10:06 »
Laser was a sub-brand of VTech, which is actually most definitely still around.

I recall having a Laser AT keyboard that had all of the nasty sins of keyboard layout back in the day - L-shaped enter, shortened backspace, *AND* two extra backslash/pipe keys, between each Ctrl/Alt pair. But, it was clicky+tactile. Probably had white Alps.

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Can't get enough of them ALPS

Offline sandy55

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Laser brand keyboard - XT/AT/? 101 with IBM terminal style arrow layout
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 11 February 2009, 22:40:12 »
As alps lover stated in that thread, it has SMK switches. ( Don't know if alps versions were available or not ).

You can see SMK switch in this pagehttp://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/dtk_mbk1013.html

3 or 4 years ago I wanted to have one of these Vtec( Laser branded) board for SMK switches.  had no luck.

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« Reply #4 on: Thu, 12 February 2009, 06:53:28 »
I remeber Laser products being POSs back in the day.


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« Reply #5 on: Thu, 12 February 2009, 07:56:44 »
My grandmother had both a Laser 386 and 486 that weren't half bad.

Although, my dad had a Laser 128EX (Apple //c clone) that was a festering piece of crap.

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Laser brand keyboard - XT/AT/? 101 with IBM terminal style arrow layout
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 12 February 2009, 13:56:56 »
Quote from: bhtooefr;21480
Laser was a sub-brand of VTech, which is actually most definitely still around.

I recall having a Laser AT keyboard that had all of the nasty sins of keyboard layout back in the day - L-shaped enter, shortened backspace, *AND* two extra backslash/pipe keys, between each Ctrl/Alt pair. But, it was clicky+tactile. Probably had white Alps.


bht, you gotta be kidding me... THREE backslashes? I have enough trouble finding use for one!
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Laser brand keyboard - XT/AT/? 101 with IBM terminal style arrow layout
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 12 February 2009, 14:01:46 »
Three backslashes.

And, they're pretty useful at the MS-DOS command line, and pipes are pretty useful in the command line of most OSes, but... that's still ridiculous.

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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 12 February 2009, 14:27:31 »
Thanks all for your info.

The SMKs look interesting, I'll keep a lookout for this design.

I don't know what to say about the three backslashes, that has to be one of the more crazy uses of those gaps.  I'll keep a lookout of that too, just to see it...
ARC/Chicony KB-5181 XT/AT blue ALPS? 101 US FCC ID E8H51KKB-5181 • AST ASTKB102 AT capacitive rubber dome 102 UK ISO
Cherry G80-2100 AT black Cherry 126 key German ISO unique • Compaq Enhanced III PS/2 unknown rubber dome 102 UK ISO
Datacomp DFK102ARA03 AT 102 blue ALPS? US/Arabic FCC ID blank, S/N 37880001 • Dell AT102W PS/2 Black ALPS 105 UK ISO x2
Fujitsu KFB4725-102 AT membrane rubber dome with spring 105 UK ISO • Hewlett Packard C1405A AT rubber dome 102 UK ISO
IBM 0989705 XT/AT no LEDs Model M 102 US/Arabic  • IBM 1388076 Industrial AT Model M 102 UK ISO
IBM 1389260 3179/3180 Display Station Model M 122 US 3270 x2 • IBM 1391406 PS/2 Model M 102 UK ISO x2
IBM 1397003 PS/2 Model M "Host Connect" emulator 122 German ISO • IBM 71G4643 PS/2 Model M Quiet Touch "Ouch!    Rubber spring" 102 UK ISO x2
IBM 5640987 3178 Display Station Model C2 capacitive buckling spring 87 key US 3270 • IBM 556-712-01 RT PC rubber dome [same as 2nd PCjr kbd?] 101 US
IBM 6450225 PC/AT capacitive buckling spring 84 key UK PC/AT • Lexmark 8125460 Model M2 102 UK ISO
NMB RT-102 117456-002 AT Hi-Tek black, clicky 102 UK ISO • Olivetti ANK 2462 M24 Personal Computer keyboard 2 clicky Olivetti spring module 102 UK unique
Ortek MCK-142Pro AT white ALPS 142 key UK • Sun 540-1006-03 Type unknown linear(?) keyswitch 2 87 key SunType2
Wang 724 725-3771-UK salmon ALPS 110 key UK Wang724 • Making this list hasn\'t half scared me...
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Laser brand keyboard - XT/AT/? 101 with IBM terminal style arrow layout
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 12 February 2009, 15:56:35 »
the laser/expo486/vtech keyboards i have are standard 101 key layouts except for an l-shaped enter and two backslashes between the ctrl/alt pairs.  the backslash keys register different scan codes so it's really not a big deal to disable one.