[GB] h87a LIVE NOW

[TastyChance]

All gone? Sucks to be euro...

They were gone incredibly fast lol didn't matter US or Euro tbh

[cspirou]

I was actually logged on when it went live. Decided to wait since I didn't think it would go so fast.

[romevi]

Same. But I didn't have the dough anyway.

These will go later on NovelKeys, won't they?

[hineybush]

Same. But I didn't have the dough anyway.

These will go later on NovelKeys, won't they?

Yep!


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[mgsickler]

Up on our site now! https://novelkeys.xyz/products/h87a-pcb-by-hineybush

[romevi]

Up on our site now! https://novelkeys.xyz/products/h87a-pcb-by-hineybush

But for how long?!

[mgsickler]

Up on our site now! https://novelkeys.xyz/products/h87a-pcb-by-hineybush

But for how long?!

Until they sell out.

Granted we will order more if possible.

[TastyChance]

I'm sure it's already been asked but when are we going to see a USB C hiney board? I need an excuse to own this many USB C cables 😂

[cspirou]

I'm sure it's already been asked but when are we going to see a USB C hiney board? I need an excuse to own this many USB C cables 😂

...and hotswap

[packman86]

I'm sure it's already been asked but when are we going to see a USB C hiney board? I need an excuse to own this many USB C cables 😂

...and hotswap

Hotswap adds an unnecessary amount of complexity to the PCB, and the people who would be buying this PCB would probably prefer to solder their finely tuned switches onto it anyway.

[hineybush]

I'm sure it's already been asked but when are we going to see a USB C hiney board? I need an excuse to own this many USB C cables 😂

...and hotswap

Hotswap adds an unnecessary amount of complexity to the PCB, and the people who would be buying this PCB would probably prefer to solder their finely tuned switches onto it anyway.

Hotswap is v possible in the future, we'll see

USB C may happen too, depends on if new stuff in the market dictates the necessity

[MajorKoos]

I'm sure it's already been asked but when are we going to see a USB C hiney board? I need an excuse to own this many USB C cables 😂

...and hotswap

Hotswap adds an unnecessary amount of complexity to the PCB, and the people who would be buying this PCB would probably prefer to solder their finely tuned switches onto it anyway.

Hotswap is v possible in the future, we'll see

USB C may happen too, depends on if new stuff in the market dictates the necessity

Support for Via Configurator would be awesome...

[romevi]

Can you add support for beamspring switches?

[hineybush]

I'm sure it's already been asked but when are we going to see a USB C hiney board? I need an excuse to own this many USB C cables

...and hotswap

Hotswap adds an unnecessary amount of complexity to the PCB, and the people who would be buying this PCB would probably prefer to solder their finely tuned switches onto it anyway.

Hotswap is v possible in the future, we'll see

USB C may happen too, depends on if new stuff in the market dictates the necessity

Support for Via Configurator would be awesome...

Working on it with Wilba...


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[hineybush]

Can you add support for beamspring switches?

The current h87a/thin/alps supports beamspring switches.

[beamingrobot]

how about topre, can we get topre support too thanks

[Themonkeyswrench]

This groupbuy has made me one happy boy.

[hineybush]

This groupbuy has made me one happy boy.

Great pic, thanks! Looks like the right shift key stab mounts may be slightly on the outer limit of width based on the wire, would it make sense to narrow the distance between them a bit?

[Themonkeyswrench]

This groupbuy has made me one happy boy.

Great pic, thanks! Looks like the right shift key stab mounts may be slightly on the outer limit of width based on the wire, would it make sense to narrow the distance between them a bit?

Yes. They are literally just a touch too wide. I ended up taking a razor to the stab mounts to make it fit just right. I also ended up bending a wire from an apple bus spacebar because I only had one right shift large enough. It might make sense to make them the same spacing as the others. I know some wires have a reverse bend and alot of boards use a shorter spacing on the right shift.

[hineybush]

This groupbuy has made me one happy boy.

Great pic, thanks! Looks like the right shift key stab mounts may be slightly on the outer limit of width based on the wire, would it make sense to narrow the distance between them a bit?

Yes. They are literally just a touch too wide. I ended up taking a razor to the stab mounts to make it fit just right. I also ended up bending a wire from an apple bus spacebar because I only had one right shift large enough. It might make sense to make them the same spacing as the others. I know some wires have a reverse bend and alot of boards use a shorter spacing on the right shift.

OOf good to know thank you!

[hineybush]

I just have to send out the Australian proxy orders, will do that tomorrow!

I plan to do two buys VERY soon: h88ce (for Jane V2 CE and associated new designs - thin (1.2mm) only) and another h87a round (normal and thinboi) without RGB underglow LEDs populated in the aim to make the PCBs a bit cheaper (maybe $3-5 per).

I will include some small updates to these as well- likely adjusting the spacebar stab mounting to north-facing ONLY, port positions for daughterboard connection and RGB strip(s), and other small improvements like routing.

[henz]

the pcb looks nice, just wondering how i get it into a programmable state?

[Themonkeyswrench]

the pcb looks nice, just wondering how i get it into a programmable state?

There are two holes on the back that say reset above them. Bridge it with tweezers!

[packman86]

the pcb looks nice, just wondering how i get it into a programmable state?

fn + R when you plug it in also triggers dfu(?) mode.

[henz]

the pcb looks nice, just wondering how i get it into a programmable state?

There are two holes on the back that say reset above them. Bridge it with tweezers!

i made a little mod

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the pcb looks nice, just wondering how i get it into a programmable state?

fn + R when you plug it in also triggers dfu(?) mode.

i wont be using QMK, have my own little fork of TMK.

[henz]

the pcb looks nice, just wondering how i get it into a programmable state?

There are two holes on the back that say reset above them. Bridge it with tweezers!

i made a little mod

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the pcb looks nice, just wondering how i get it into a programmable state?

fn + R when you plug it in also triggers dfu(?) mode.

i wont be using QMK, have my own little fork of TMK.

ok, that did not work, it was a live reset :( have to figure out something else tomorrow.

[Mr_BeastQuake]

I plan to do two buys VERY soon: h88ce (for Jane V2 CE and associated new designs - thin (1.2mm) only) and another h87a round (normal and thinboi) without RGB underglow LEDs populated in the aim to make the PCBs a bit cheaper (maybe $3-5 per).

PCB without underglow LEDs is something I'd be interested in. When make thiccboi for the thick boys?

[hineybush]

I am planning to open pre-orders in the next week or two. Trying to nail down the final color for the 1.6mm version - either gloss green (likely lighter than the proto pictured below), matte black (like round 1) or black FR4 + clear solder mask (see below):

https://www.strawpoll.me/18822462

Example of the black core + clear solder mask:


New features for h87a 1.7:

Redesigned/more robust snap-off parts (USB port, stab anchors around the spacebar area)
JST-SH 4-pin footprints
  One for the USB port (daugtherboards can be directly connected now, no cable soldering)
  One for an RGB daughterboard (in the area between the navkeys and arrows, or anywhere you'd like really)
A bypass to allow the RGB out from the MCU to be directly connected to the RGB daughterboard, instead of to the underglow (the first RGB LED would have to be removed in this instance)
Removal of the dedicated Reset pads, they are now incorporated into the 6-pin SPI header as the two pins exist there already
Improved ground plane via stitching to avoid needing to jump ground pads when the USB port is removed on previous versions



I plan to order the 1.2mm-thickness thinbois soon after these - likely 2-3 weeks after.

[ThePanduuh]

my $0.02, the black pcb with clear solder traces looks miles cleaner and more professional than green pcb.

[ConfuseBill]

Wow, Black FR4 with Clear Solder Trace looks cool.

[phorx]

+1 for the black/clear option

[Solotov]

Hi guys, I'm completely a newbie in Alps world, and currently planning to do a TKL Alps build with DCS Yuri keycaps from Drop.
Saw the info that DCS would need MX stabs. H87a would work well for my case, right? And what about plate? Where can I buy a plate for this build?

[hineybush]

Hi guys, I'm completely a newbie in Alps world, and currently planning to do a TKL Alps build with DCS Yuri keycaps from Drop.
Saw the info that DCS would need MX stabs. H87a would work well for my case, right? And what about plate? Where can I buy a plate for this build?

Hey! The currently available h87alps version (1.0) doesn't support Cherry PCB mount stabs but the next version will. As far as plate goes, you'd need one with plate mount MX stab holes. It depends on the case, but some cases have publically available plate files that you can download. If you find a plate file and need it edited drop me a line.

[Solotov]

Hi guys, I'm completely a newbie in Alps world, and currently planning to do a TKL Alps build with DCS Yuri keycaps from Drop.
Saw the info that DCS would need MX stabs. H87a would work well for my case, right? And what about plate? Where can I buy a plate for this build?

Hey! The currently available h87alps version (1.0) doesn't support Cherry PCB mount stabs but the next version will. As far as plate goes, you'd need one with plate mount MX stab holes. It depends on the case, but some cases have publically available plate files that you can download. If you find a plate file and need it edited drop me a line.

Thanks for the answer, Hiney! That means the incoming round 3 pcb will work for me, right? Then, I'll definitely grab one, and vote for the black color 

[hineybush]

Hi guys, I'm completely a newbie in Alps world, and currently planning to do a TKL Alps build with DCS Yuri keycaps from Drop.
Saw the info that DCS would need MX stabs. H87a would work well for my case, right? And what about plate? Where can I buy a plate for this build?

Hey! The currently available h87alps version (1.0) doesn't support Cherry PCB mount stabs but the next version will. As far as plate goes, you'd need one with plate mount MX stab holes. It depends on the case, but some cases have publically available plate files that you can download. If you find a plate file and need it edited drop me a line.

Thanks for the answer, Hiney! That means the incoming round 3 pcb will work for me, right? Then, I'll definitely grab one, and vote for the black color 

that update was strictly for the h87a, the MX version. the alps one is separate and will be ready in about a month for a buy.

[LifeZ]

Looks good!!
black core + clear solder mask

[LightningXI]

Black and clear solder mask looks nice!

Although I kind of wish yellow PCBs were a thing.

[Lbibass]

The black with clear solder mask will look pretty dope. Def interested in that colorway.

[Henrythewound]

Is the purpose of these boards mostly to provide a versatile quality TKL PCB for people with really high end cases? I have not gotten past to part of this hobby where everything comes a s a kit (case, plate, PCB all together). What are people doing for a plate to go along with this? Does that depend on their case? I don't know how standardized this layout is.

[yicaoyimu]

Is the purpose of these boards mostly to provide a versatile quality TKL PCB for people with really high end cases? I have not gotten past to part of this hobby where everything comes a s a kit (case, plate, PCB all together). What are people doing for a plate to go along with this? Does that depend on their case? I don't know how standardized this layout is.

It's meant to be a replacement PCB for cases that are compatible (listed here). Or for those that want QMK.

[hineybush]

Is the purpose of these boards mostly to provide a versatile quality TKL PCB for people with really high end cases? I have not gotten past to part of this hobby where everything comes a s a kit (case, plate, PCB all together). What are people doing for a plate to go along with this? Does that depend on their case? I don't know how standardized this layout is.

This is for people who need a PCB for an older kit with a "bad" PCB, or they want more programmability. I sell FR4 plates for a few boards currently, but a lot of the time plates can be reused or their files can be found around the community for someone to have their own cut. A lot of newer TKLs are being designed around the PCB as well


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[Henrythewound]

Is the purpose of these boards mostly to provide a versatile quality TKL PCB for people with really high end cases? I have not gotten past to part of this hobby where everything comes a s a kit (case, plate, PCB all together). What are people doing for a plate to go along with this? Does that depend on their case? I don't know how standardized this layout is.

This is for people who need a PCB for an older kit with a "bad" PCB, or they want more programmability. I sell FR4 plates for a few boards currently, but a lot of the time plates can be reused or their files can be found around the community for someone to have their own cut. A lot of newer TKLs are being designed around the PCB as well


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Is the purpose of these boards mostly to provide a versatile quality TKL PCB for people with really high end cases? I have not gotten past to part of this hobby where everything comes a s a kit (case, plate, PCB all together). What are people doing for a plate to go along with this? Does that depend on their case? I don't know how standardized this layout is.

It's meant to be a replacement PCB for cases that are compatible (listed here). Or for those that want QMK.

Thanks to you both, makes total sense now

[jakereps]

That Black FR4 and Clear looks so sick, granted it’s a PCB so similar to colored switches it’s not super important as it’s mostly out of sight, but definitely a +1.

[TastyChance]

I am planning to open pre-orders in the next week or two. Trying to nail down the final color for the 1.6mm version - either gloss green (likely lighter than the proto pictured below), matte black (like round 1) or black FR4 + clear solder mask (see below):

https://www.strawpoll.me/18822462

Example of the black core + clear solder mask:

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New features for h87a 1.7:

Redesigned/more robust snap-off parts (USB port, stab anchors around the spacebar area)
JST-SH 4-pin footprints
  One for the USB port (daugtherboards can be directly connected now, no cable soldering)
  One for an RGB daughterboard (in the area between the navkeys and arrows, or anywhere you'd like really)
A bypass to allow the RGB out from the MCU to be directly connected to the RGB daughterboard, instead of to the underglow (the first RGB LED would have to be removed in this instance)
Removal of the dedicated Reset pads, they are now incorporated into the 6-pin SPI header as the two pins exist there already
Improved ground plane via stitching to avoid needing to jump ground pads when the USB port is removed on previous versions

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I plan to order the 1.2mm-thickness thinbois soon after these - likely 2-3 weeks after.

I'm running out of my extras this couldnt be better timed.

[infamousvincci]

Did this GB started already?

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[hineybush]

Did this GB started already?

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Nope but i'll be putting some units up for pre order later today


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[infamousvincci]

Did this GB started already?

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Nope but i'll be putting some units up for pre order later today


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Oh okay. Can i purchase one? Or how do i purchase one?

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[hineybush]

Did this GB started already?

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Nope but i'll be putting some units up for pre order later today


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Oh okay. Can i purchase one? Or how do i purchase one?

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Yep, once I put them in stock they'll be available to pre order. I'm not doing a group buy, I'm going to be ordering a large amount tonight to have ready to ship in about 5 weeks. This will cut a month ish off of the total time needed to wait.


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[infamousvincci]

Did this GB started already?

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Nope but i'll be putting some units up for pre order later today


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Oh okay. Can i purchase one? Or how do i purchase one?

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Yep, once I put them in stock they'll be available to pre order. I'm not doing a group buy, I'm going to be ordering a large amount tonight to have ready to ship in about 5 weeks. This will cut a month ish off of the total time needed to wait.


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Nice! Is there a discord server that we can go to for the notice when its up? Or ur gonna post it here?

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[hineybush]

Did this GB started already?

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Nope but i'll be putting some units up for pre order later today


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Oh okay. Can i purchase one? Or how do i purchase one?

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Yep, once I put them in stock they'll be available to pre order. I'm not doing a group buy, I'm going to be ordering a large amount tonight to have ready to ship in about 5 weeks. This will cut a month ish off of the total time needed to wait.


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Nice! Is there a discord server that we can go to for the notice when its up? Or ur gonna post it here?

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discord.hiney.cc

I will also post here


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