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[GB] KAM Little Pilot (Missing keys update)
« on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 02:21:09 »




KAM Little Pilot

This keyset is inspired by visual identity elements of Wes Anderson's Isle of Dogs, and named after the nickname of the film's main character.
Little Pilot is the second ever KAM profile keyset, and after multiple rounds of samples, it's time for the group buy!


About KAM

KAM is a uniform keycap profile from Keyreative, the makers of KAT.
It features thick PBT plastic with a glossy finish and dye-sublimated legends.

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Group Buy Info

Runs December 6th – January 3rd

The Key Company (US)
Mykeyboard.eu (EU)
Deskhero.ca (CA)
zFrontier (AS)





MOQ is 24k/54k units (1u keycap = 1 unit)



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Alphas




Base Mods




Numpad




ISO UK




Exotic




40s




Ortho




Ergo




Homing






Sample Photos







Renders








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Thank you

Alex of zFrontier for collaborating on this keyset
MetallicCharles and TKC for the renders
and big thank you to everyone who provided feedback and showed interest 🤝


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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 12:14:24 »
Approved!  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 12:35:59 »
We're live in Asia, Europe and Canada! The Key Company goes live at 6pm PST ✌️

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 13:00:33 »
This set looks great.

One question, since I have never used the KAM profile and the shiny/glossy keycaps, would you say it feels "greasy" when you put your fingers on the keycap?  I don't know if that makes sense.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 13:02:46 »
This is the fist shiny set that I've seen and really wanted.  Something about the colors and theme just seem to work with that texture for me.  Count me in.  Not sure how they feel with gloss texture, but I have some of the shiny polycarb caps from Rama and it's quite nice.  Hope they feel about the same.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 14:51:32 »
This set looks great.

One question, since I have never used the KAM profile and the shiny/glossy keycaps, would you say it feels "greasy" when you put your fingers on the keycap?  I don't know if that makes sense.

It doesn't feel greasy to me, feels more like an iPhone screen or other smooth/glossy surfaces, except concave. It is possible to get fingerprints on them though, because of the finish.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 14:58:39 »
I like the colors, but i'm not a shiny guy. Nice work though  :D

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 16:41:28 »
Has there been a gloss PBT set released before?  Do we have any info about whether it stays glossy with use? 

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 17:52:35 »
KAM is my favorite profile. It's the smoothest and shiniest out there. Highly recommended if you've never tried it. This is only the 2nd KAM keyset to be released.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 20:08:24 »
Has there been a gloss PBT set released before?  Do we have any info about whether it stays glossy with use?

Only KAM Starry Night. I'm not sure about long term usage, but don't think the surface will change very much over time.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 01:19:22 »
Oh hey! You made it so that Exotic is a full HHKB mod kit! Thank you! I'll buy once I'm back home :)

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 03:35:02 »
Love the glossy finish.

Being from australia, which store should I preorder from?

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 10:25:55 »
Love the glossy finish.

Being from australia, which store should I preorder from?

That would be zFrontier!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 09 December 2019, 07:05:03 »
OK!  I am in!

One question...where will status be posted?  I see the "MOQ is 54k units (1u keycap = 1 unit)" - any idea if we are looking good/trending appropriately?  (I know it is early, but I am excited!!)

Thanks!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 09 December 2019, 07:21:51 »
I'm still hoping you will choose the longer legend versions on the keys whose sizes allow it. like on the 1.75u keys for ctrl and especially fn, I think it would look significantly better to use control and function. please consider this! the tiny "fn" legend on such a big key would look silly!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 10 December 2019, 10:13:15 »
I'm still hoping you will choose the longer legend versions on the keys whose sizes allow it. like on the 1.75u keys for ctrl and especially fn, I think it would look significantly better to use control and function. please consider this! the tiny "fn" legend on such a big key would look silly!

Can definitely consider it, I tried it out and it really just affects the Exotic mods and isn't a huge change, I can have them spelled out in the final templates I send out after the group buy. Thanks for another great suggestion stoffelduss 🙏

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 17 December 2019, 04:35:53 »
This is my first time joining a groupbuy. Is the progress so far adequate or is it possible it won't go through at this rate?

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 17 December 2019, 17:18:49 »
This is my first time joining a groupbuy. Is the progress so far adequate or is it possible it won't go through at this rate?

Thanks for joining! Here were the week 1 numbers minus Deskhero and extras:

Alphas: 71
Base mods: 43
Numpad: 26
ISO UK: 4
Ortho: 28
Exotic: 28
Ergo: 8
40s: 15
Homing: 12

Numbers should be a tad higher now, but we're about halfway to the lower 24k MOQ without extras

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 17 December 2019, 19:27:26 »
Looks really good!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 17 December 2019, 22:08:11 »
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This is my first time joining a groupbuy. Is the progress so far adequate or is it possible it won't go through at this rate?

Thanks for joining! Here were the week 1 numbers minus Deskhero and extras:

Alphas: 71
Base mods: 43
Numpad: 26
ISO UK: 4
Ortho: 28
Exotic: 28
Ergo: 8
40s: 15
Homing: 12

Numbers should be a tad higher now, but we're about halfway to the lower 24k MOQ without extras



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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 19 December 2019, 09:32:41 »
In for alphas, homing, and exotic. Full HHKB support on the exotic kit is an insta-cop for me

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Open until Jan 3rd, halfway to MOQ)
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 21 December 2019, 00:03:38 »


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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Open until Jan 3rd, halfway to MOQ)
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 24 December 2019, 09:34:29 »
Count me in for an ortho set, beautiful work  ;) 
 
Looking forward to near-SA-like clack with the hefty KAM bois. DSA just can't hang with that thicckness. Especially interested in the kind of typing feel from a glossy-forward finish. Hopefully not everyone spent their dosh on other non-important drops....
Tada68 (Jailhouse Aristotles) / MiniVan (Jailhouse Aristotles) / Planck (Aristotles) / Teensy m0116 (Matias QC) / ALPS64 ('Pine' SKCM White) / Teensy NeXT Non-ADB (SKCM Cream) / ALPS HHKB (SKCM Orange)

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Open until Jan 3rd, last week!)
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 30 December 2019, 07:31:40 »
Update?  We gonna make it?  Thanks!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Open until Jan 3rd, last week!)
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 31 December 2019, 01:59:53 »
Update?  We gonna make it?  Thanks!

We’re past 24k MOQ so the set will be produced! I don’t have latest numbers from TKC so can’t give the exact unit count right now.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Open until Friday Jan 3rd, MOQ met!)
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 31 December 2019, 02:10:54 »
Woohoo!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Open until Friday Jan 3rd, MOQ met!)
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 31 December 2019, 08:24:49 »
Congrats on hitting MOQ. Looking forward to getting this on my board.


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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Open until Friday Jan 3rd, MOQ met!)
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 31 December 2019, 11:57:03 »
Last few days!

With zFrontier's extras, we're at almost 28K units (over 600 kits) ✌️

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Open until Friday Jan 3rd, MOQ met!)
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 31 December 2019, 14:43:14 »
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Last few days!

With zFrontier's extras, we're at almost 28K units (over 600 kits) ✌️




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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Open until Friday Jan 3rd, MOQ met!)
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 01 January 2020, 01:56:53 »
Bought it, Can't wait.
This will be my endgame even though I am noob in here.
It's off-topic, but want to see SA keycaps or KAT with this color and this glossy finish

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Open until Friday Jan 3rd, MOQ met!)
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 02 January 2020, 13:09:48 »
Which kits will surely be produced? Getting the Alphas and Mods for my girlfriend and just want to make sure if they're being produced before I purchase! Thanks!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Open until Friday Jan 3rd, MOQ met!)
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 02 January 2020, 14:02:11 »
Which kits will surely be produced? Getting the Alphas and Mods for my girlfriend and just want to make sure if they're being produced before I purchase! Thanks!
All of them, the way it works with this manufacturer is that the colorway as a whole must get orders that in total consist of 24k pieces, which was reached. (It does not work like this with other manufacturers, like GMK, where each kit has its own MOQ and the MOQ is counted based on kits, not on pieces within a kit)

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (GB Closed)
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 04 January 2020, 15:34:41 »
Thanks everyone who joined, we had surprising number of orders on the last day! The group buy is now closed and we're working out the final extras count ✌️

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (GB Closed)
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 04 January 2020, 16:02:17 »
Yay! Looking forward to seeing the final count!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (GB Closed)
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 09 January 2020, 11:46:27 »
We're at ~57k units after final count and extras 🙌

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (GB Closed)
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 09 January 2020, 12:07:59 »
Good luck with the rest of the GB!

I was going to join, but ended up backing out last minute because I knew that I wouldn't be a fan of a flat profile. Would love to see something like this in GMK or something.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (GB Closed)
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 09 January 2020, 23:14:41 »
Hey, loved the design so much I had to make this my first GB  :D

I kind of realized after it closed that the alpha kit does not include homing row keys. Is there any way at all for me to get a homing kit after the GB closed??

I know it's a stretch, but figured I'd ask!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (GB Closed)
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 10 January 2020, 05:38:49 »
Hey, loved the design so much I had to make this my first GB  :D

I kind of realized after it closed that the alpha kit does not include homing row keys. Is there any way at all for me to get a homing kit after the GB closed??

I know it's a stretch, but figured I'd ask!
Hey, the base alphas include homing and non-homing keys for F and J (look in the lower right corner of the render). If you would like homing keys for the classic alternative homing position for D and K, I can send you those at shipping cost (I'm in the EU). You're probably not using some layout that's not QWERTY, are you? In that case you would need to pay attention to homing kits :/

/edit: To clarify and to make future buying decisions easier, the homing kits are generally just for people who use more eccentric non-standard layouts or in this case also retro middle finger homing keys. If you're using a standard layout you don't need to worry about homing kits generally. If you want to learn more about non-standard layouts, I'd suggest googling Colemak layout. (That's the one the homing T and N in the homing kit are for)
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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (GB Closed)
« Reply #38 on: Sat, 11 January 2020, 18:28:17 »
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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (GB Closed)
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 12 January 2020, 04:28:16 »
more than 16% of orders for alphas came with orders for the homing kit :D :D you love to see it!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (GB Closed)
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 13 January 2020, 11:53:26 »
Hey, loved the design so much I had to make this my first GB  :D

I kind of realized after it closed that the alpha kit does not include homing row keys. Is there any way at all for me to get a homing kit after the GB closed??

I know it's a stretch, but figured I'd ask!
Hey, the base alphas include homing and non-homing keys for F and J (look in the lower right corner of the render). If you would like homing keys for the classic alternative homing position for D and K, I can send you those at shipping cost (I'm in the EU). You're probably not using some layout that's not QWERTY, are you? In that case you would need to pay attention to homing kits :/

/edit: To clarify and to make future buying decisions easier, the homing kits are generally just for people who use more eccentric non-standard layouts or in this case also retro middle finger homing keys. If you're using a standard layout you don't need to worry about homing kits generally. If you want to learn more about non-standard layouts, I'd suggest googling Colemak layout. (That's the one the homing T and N in the homing kit are for)

Ah, that makes a lot of sense.
I use Qwerty, I just realized afterwards that there was an individual homing keys, and noticed that only some renders of the set actually included the homing keys on them. That actually helps a lot for future sets though.

Thank you for taking the time to clarify!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (GB Closed)
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 12:47:51 »
Excited that all the sets are being made!  Looking forward to the June (I hope it doesn't slip) ship date!

Is there a specific URL to look at for progress updates?  Are you sending out update emails?  Just wondering where I should be looking to make sure I am seeing the latest updates.

Thanks!!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (GB Closed)
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 23:02:02 »
Excited that all the sets are being made!  Looking forward to the June (I hope it doesn't slip) ship date!

Is there a specific URL to look at for progress updates?  Are you sending out update emails?  Just wondering where I should be looking to make sure I am seeing the latest updates.

Thanks!!

Updates will live here: https://thekey.company/collections/updates
And in the #news-updates channel of The Key Company's discord channel
I'll also try to keep this thread updated on the status ✌️

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 24 March 2020, 13:06:44 »
Hi all, quick update: KAM Little Pilot is now in production but due to the current pandemic, ship dates are being pushed back by 1-2 months 🙏

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 24 March 2020, 13:24:47 »
Thanks for the update 👍🏻

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 08 June 2020, 06:24:08 »
Would love to be able to catch an extras set, just found this and they're beautiful.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 03 July 2020, 10:04:38 »
I just saw kat eternal have their expected shipping date postpone to August, what about little pilot? Is late July still possible?

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 18:52:41 »
I just saw kat eternal have their expected shipping date postpone to August, what about little pilot? Is late July still possible?

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 07:40:52 »
Aww, USPS says I have a package from China, and idk what it is. I came to check the status of Little Pilot and saw that TheKey.company is now showing October delivery.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 08:19:41 »
Any updates on this? Been a hot minute since there was any word and TKC's site says estimate shipping in October.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 09:24:16 »
Would love some update on this too.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 27 October 2020, 13:04:12 »
TKC does not provide updates unless there's an angry mob.

If no news in the next 5 weeks I will open a dispute with PayPal.

I really feel bad for this designer.
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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 00:21:34 »
zero update on October? Awesome! My money for nothing! >:D

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 01:30:02 »
I haven't heard anything new, will check with TKC staff to see if the manu has any updates for them 😬

Update: TKC has reached out to Keyreative multiple times for updates but haven’t gotten any response 😓
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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 19:22:32 »
Update today: "Little Pilot will be finishing next week which we should be able to arrange shipping immediately after that" 🙌

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #55 on: Sat, 31 October 2020, 11:07:43 »
Update today: "Little Pilot will be finishing next week which we should be able to arrange shipping immediately after that" 🙌

WOOHOO!

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 04:22:34 »
Update today: "Little Pilot will be finishing next week which we should be able to arrange shipping immediately after that" 🙌

Thanks for the update. It relieved me.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (In Production)
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 14 November 2020, 06:28:41 »
got mine today (from zf)

the glossy finish is good looking, and it also sound great for a uniform profile

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 19:36:46 »
DAT GLOSS

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #59 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 04:35:36 »
Got mine a few days ago. I am very pleased with the printing quality – the legends are crisp and sharp, even on the modifiers. I had thought that they would be using reverse dyesub for the mods; but it seems like printing everything, including the legends and the color of the keycaps, paid off really well. While there are some places where the typeface could've used ink traps to prevent loss of detail, e.g. some lowercase 'r' characters in the mods start to look like 'г' (loss of detail in the shoulder), there are no bleed problems that make the characters fuzzy, like in my Infinikey WoB set. I'm very happy with this trade-off, and the results speak for themselves.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 01 December 2020, 15:59:56 »
anyone who ordered from mykeyboard and got their keycaps yet?

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 01 December 2020, 16:46:24 »
anyone who ordered from mykeyboard and got their keycaps yet?

To the best of my knowledge MyKeyboard has not received them yet.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #62 on: Wed, 02 December 2020, 00:20:55 »
TKC mentioned they're not gonna slow boat from China to wherever USA on Discord two weeks ago.

Guess they're gonna slow boat it.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #63 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 14:02:44 »
TKC starting to send out shipping confirmations today ✌️✌️

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 15 December 2020, 14:37:17 »
Any idea when Deskhero will be shipping out for Canadian orders?

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #65 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 04:02:04 »
Got my delivery today from mykeyboard.eu

The "exotic" kit is missing the tab key added for HHKB support.

So now my exotic+alphas combo for my HHKB is useless. Gutted. Waited a year for this :(

EDIT list of all problems with this kit:
  • Missing 1u "Esc" (in red)
  • Extra 1u "Fn"
  • Missing 1.5u "Tab"
  • Unexpected 1.75u stepped "Ctrl"
  • Missing 2.25u "Enter" (in red)

Apparently mykeyboard.eu are aware of the issue and have reported it to the supplier already.
« Last Edit: Thu, 17 December 2020, 10:09:19 by Joshimitsu »

Offline kema

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 17 December 2020, 19:17:02 »
Sorry that happened Joshimitsu, I've heard from mykeyboard.eu about the issue and am working with vendors to see what they can do to about errors in Keyreative's manufacturing/QC. 😢

Everyone that bought the set, if you notice issues please contact your vendor so they can collect details for potential replacements. It's unfortunate but after I approved the last round of samples that had 0 legend/centering/color problems, it was all in the manufacturer's hands. And it does seem like there were oversights made in the manufacturing process. 😫
« Last Edit: Thu, 17 December 2020, 19:24:25 by kema »

Offline yuejia

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 02:40:40 »
That‘s so cool! I like it!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Offline samba

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 03:00:12 »
Nice work. :thumb:

Offline Joshimitsu

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #69 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 13:00:53 »
Sorry that happened Joshimitsu, I've heard from mykeyboard.eu about the issue and am working with vendors to see what they can do to about errors in Keyreative's manufacturing/QC. 😢

Everyone that bought the set, if you notice issues please contact your vendor so they can collect details for potential replacements. It's unfortunate but after I approved the last round of samples that had 0 legend/centering/color problems, it was all in the manufacturer's hands. And it does seem like there were oversights made in the manufacturing process. 😫

Don't worry about it, it's clearly Keyreative's mistake so I'm sure they will want to rectify it. In the meantime I will just look at the keys as they are very nice :D

I did notice a lot of scratches on the shine of the modifier keys though. Assuming because they are black it's easier to spot them? A little unfortunate to unbox them that way but I guess with the finish it's an inevitability anyway.

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #70 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 15:57:21 »


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Offline Audiobs

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:45:21 »
Got my delivery today from mykeyboard.eu

The "exotic" kit is missing the tab key added for HHKB support.

So now my exotic+alphas combo for my HHKB is useless. Gutted. Waited a year for this :(

EDIT list of all problems with this kit:
  • Missing 1u "Esc" (in red)
  • Extra 1u "Fn"
  • Missing 1.5u "Tab"
  • Unexpected 1.75u stepped "Ctrl"
  • Missing 2.25u "Enter" (in red)

Apparently mykeyboard.eu are aware of the issue and have reported it to the supplier already.

I can confirm the same issue with my exotic kit. Though the missing keycaps are also presented in the base mods kit, so I wonder if those 2 extras are replacement somehow.

Offline Arizone

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 24 December 2020, 02:09:29 »
Got my delivery today from mykeyboard.eu

The "exotic" kit is missing the tab key added for HHKB support.

So now my exotic+alphas combo for my HHKB is useless. Gutted. Waited a year for this :(

EDIT list of all problems with this kit:
  • Missing 1u "Esc" (in red)
  • Extra 1u "Fn"
  • Missing 1.5u "Tab"
  • Unexpected 1.75u stepped "Ctrl"
  • Missing 2.25u "Enter" (in red)

Apparently mykeyboard.eu are aware of the issue and have reported it to the supplier already.

I can confirm the same issue with my exotic kit. Though the missing keycaps are also presented in the base mods kit, so I wonder if those 2 extras are replacement somehow.

Same thing with my Exotic kit. Not an issue for me, so not sure I will pursue it. I would also like to mention the legends in the Numpad kit changed from ÷ and × to / and * which is slightly disappointing but I also won't be using those presently.


Offline mrvco

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 21 January 2021, 22:35:48 »
Any word yet on how the two missing keys in the Exotic kit are being handled by Zfrontier and/or the proxies?  I picked up a NIB set w/ both Base mods and Exotics second hand, so the two missing keys aren't a big deal, but it would be nice to complete the Exotic kit.  Regardless, Little Pilot looks stunning on my Milk Rama M60-A.
« Last Edit: Thu, 21 January 2021, 22:37:23 by mrvco »

Offline kema

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 22 January 2021, 11:17:56 »
I can confirm the same issue with my exotic kit. Though the missing keycaps are also presented in the base mods kit, so I wonder if those 2 extras are replacement somehow.

Same thing with my Exotic kit. Not an issue for me, so not sure I will pursue it. I would also like to mention the legends in the Numpad kit changed from ÷ and × to / and * which is slightly disappointing but I also won't be using those presently.

Any word yet on how the two missing keys in the Exotic kit are being handled by Zfrontier and/or the proxies?  I picked up a NIB set w/ both Base mods and Exotics second hand, so the two missing keys aren't a big deal, but it would be nice to complete the Exotic kit.  Regardless, Little Pilot looks stunning on my Milk Rama M60-A.

Unfortunately Keyreative used an older version of the legends template without the proper number sizes and ÷/× symbols. I told zFrontier who said they would investigate but I haven't heard back yet. Best thing to do for any missing keys and numpad fixes is to reach out to the vendor you ordered from so they can compile these issues and request fixes from the manufacturer directly.  :(

Offline Kacperoni

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #75 on: Sat, 30 January 2021, 15:41:56 »
Can someone tell me what is this keyboard on the first pic on top of front page?

Offline mrvco

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 13:35:24 »
I can confirm the same issue with my exotic kit. Though the missing keycaps are also presented in the base mods kit, so I wonder if those 2 extras are replacement somehow.

Same thing with my Exotic kit. Not an issue for me, so not sure I will pursue it. I would also like to mention the legends in the Numpad kit changed from ÷ and × to / and * which is slightly disappointing but I also won't be using those presently.

Any word yet on how the two missing keys in the Exotic kit are being handled by Zfrontier and/or the proxies?  I picked up a NIB set w/ both Base mods and Exotics second hand, so the two missing keys aren't a big deal, but it would be nice to complete the Exotic kit.  Regardless, Little Pilot looks stunning on my Milk Rama M60-A.

Unfortunately Keyreative used an older version of the legends template without the proper number sizes and ÷/× symbols. I told zFrontier who said they would investigate but I haven't heard back yet. Best thing to do for any missing keys and numpad fixes is to reach out to the vendor you ordered from so they can compile these issues and request fixes from the manufacturer directly.  :(

Contacted the vendor regarding the missing caps from the Exotics kit and they said they're not in contact w/ Zfrontier or Keyreative and to contact them directly.  I'll try pinging ZF, but I'm getting the impression no one involved cares enough for this to be anything but dead in the water at this point.  Considering their backlog, it's a bit hard to imagine Keyreative spinning up production for two keycaps from a set they've long since shipped.

Offline kema

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #77 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 19:04:40 »
Contacted the vendor regarding the missing caps from the Exotics kit and they said they're not in contact w/ Zfrontier or Keyreative and to contact them directly.  I'll try pinging ZF, but I'm getting the impression no one involved cares enough for this to be anything but dead in the water at this point.  Considering their backlog, it's a bit hard to imagine Keyreative spinning up production for two keycaps from a set they've long since shipped.

From what I know, TKC (the primary vendor) recently reached out to zFrontier directly about the issues but are waiting for a response 😥 I'm assuming that if/when fixes start to happen TKC will reach out to all the proxies for orders and distribution. I'm hoping Keyreative can make things right 🤞

Offline Kacperoni

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #78 on: Tue, 02 March 2021, 18:41:27 »
Please do round 2. I tried getting some extras few weeks ago, but after 1 minute it was sold out...

Offline andred

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Now shipping)
« Reply #79 on: Wed, 03 March 2021, 02:23:03 »
Can someone tell me what is this keyboard on the first pic on top of front page?

I think that's a Molly: https://thekey.company/products/m0lly

Offline ja.ze

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #80 on: Wed, 31 March 2021, 13:36:14 »
I managed to get into the extras after TKC assured me the missing keys were no longer a problem.

Quoted the post above for the hhkb actually.

Just received the set and surprise surprise, it's missing the exact same keys. Kevin, has Keyreative responded to this? I can't use this set since I only have an HHKB and Planck, and I only bought Alphas + Exotics.

Offline kema

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 01 April 2021, 00:01:34 »
I managed to get into the extras after TKC assured me the missing keys were no longer a problem.

Quoted the post above for the hhkb actually.

Just received the set and surprise surprise, it's missing the exact same keys. Kevin, has Keyreative responded to this? I can't use this set since I only have an HHKB and Planck, and I only bought Alphas + Exotics.

I haven't gotten a response from Keyreative since I last inquired ): Will ping someone from TKC to check in on the missing keys situation. Communication from Keyreative has been unfortunately spotty 😢

Edit: Had TKC reach out to zFrontier/Keyreative again for a response
« Last Edit: Sat, 03 April 2021, 00:46:44 by kema »

Offline kema

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 29 April 2021, 00:59:17 »
Hi friends, finally some good news! Keyreative is completing production on the missing keys tomorrow and are expected to ship them to all the vendors around May 7th. 🙏
« Last Edit: Thu, 29 April 2021, 01:03:10 by kema »

Offline Arizone

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Missing keys update)
« Reply #83 on: Sat, 12 June 2021, 20:47:09 »
These turned up unannounced from TKC. I never contacted them about it.

Offline Joshimitsu

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Re: [GB] KAM Little Pilot (Missing keys update)
« Reply #84 on: Mon, 19 July 2021, 01:48:04 »
Still waiting here in EU  :(