[Order Thread] Metal (Zinc) Keycaps Round 2. [shipped to me] [Right-Shift keys avail]

[feng]

Update: Items are on the way from China. And I ordered some Zinc Blank Right-Shift Keys. 20 silver and 20 gold ones. Please PM me as soon as you can if you want some of these and need them shipped with your zinc order.

Zinc is back! with more choices! Let's get started with the 2nd round.

There are two colors available as gold and silver. They are colored by electroplating.

Also two types of keys as blank and legends ones are available. The printed ones are made by laser.

MKC said some of these zinc keycaps would fail in the process of producing, and even sometimes the failing chance is pretty high. Therefore he can't guarantee that he would give me exactly what I ordered. So I'll just follow first come first serve and prior ship the keycaps to those who first ordered. If you don't get what you originally ordered, I'll do the full refunds. But overall, no need to worry about that too much, I'll try to make sure everyone will get what he/she wanted. 
 

Please notice that these zinc keycaps would fit very tightly, there's no solution so far due to the mold of producing these keys. So when you wanna pull out the zinc keycaps from your keyboard, remember don't pull them too hard, just do it slowly and gently.



The deadline will be 4/30/2012. Estimate shipping date is between 4/30 - 5/15.



All zinc keycaps are available in GOLD and SILVER colors. Except the transformers keys.

R1-R4 keycaps:

37 Printed (37 keys included)  $85

37 Blank (37 keys included)  $85

37 Printed combined set (33 gold keys and 4 silver arrow keys) $85

R4 Blank  $3.75

R3 Blank $3.75

R2 Blank $3.75

R1 Blank $3.75

Starcraft 2 League kit (7 keys included)  $39

Arrow kit (4 keys included) $18

WASD kit (4 keys included) $18



Modifier keycaps:


1.25 Printed kit (7 keys inclued: 2x win, 2x ctrl, 2x alt, and 1x menu)  $42.5

1.25 Blank (Win row)  $6.5

CapsLock Blank  $7.5

Tab Blank  $7.5

Enter Blank  $8.5

Backspace Blank  $8.5

2.25 Shift Blank  $8.5



R4 custom keycaps (Esc row):

Protoss  $6

Terran  $6

Zerg  $6

NERV  $6

Ducky Logo  $6

Filco Logo  $6

Apple Logo  $6

Steelseries Logo  $6

Autobot (only in Gold)  $6

Decepticon (only in Gold)  $6

ESC Brush Script MT  $6

ESC 华文琥珀 (Hupo)  $6

ESC 华文隶书 (Lishu)  $6

ESC Arial  $6



Shiny version! Really limited number since MKC is not making these shiny ones anymore and these are the stocks that he has left.

Shiny CapsLock Printed  $7.5

Shiny Backspace Starcraft II  $8.5

Shiny Backspace Printed  $8.5

Shiny 2.25 Shift Ferrari  $8.5

Shiny Enter Printed  $8.5

Shiny Tab Printed  $7.5

Shiny Tab Starcraft II  $7.5

Shiny Alt  $6.5

Shiny Ctrl  $6.5



Plastic Wrist Rest with BLIZZARD's Logo (Medium size, for tenkeyless keyboards)  $35   Only 10 available.




Shipping:

USA/Canada - USPS First Class $4 (US orders will include a delivery confirmation which is the tracking number)
International - USPS First Class $7

Will ship in bubble mailer via USPS First Class. If you take like 2 sets of 37 zinc keycaps or more, it will have to go with USPS priority which will charge you a bit more on shipping.

Any customs fees, if applicable, are your responsibility.
 

Payment:

Please send me the payment via Paypal at tangxiruo@hotmail.com (as gift or add 3.5% to cover the fees). And leave me a message including your Geekhack user name with the payment. After sending the payment, PM me your order and shipping address in this forum.
 
e.g.
1x 37 Blank (Gold)
5x R4 blank (Silver)
1x Starcraft kit (Silver)

XXX XXX
1234 Keycap Blvd
Saint Louis, MO 12345
United States





37 Printed Gold
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37 Printed Silver
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WASD kit Silver
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Arrow kit
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Starcraft 2 League kit
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Four kinds of Esc key:  Arial, Brush Script MT, 华文琥珀 (Hupo), 华文隶书 (Lishu)

Use the Silver keys in the first picture as an example, from left to right: 华文琥珀 (Hupo), Arial, 华文隶书 (Lishu), Brush Script MT.
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Modifier keycaps:

backspace
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R4 custom keycaps:

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Shiny Modifiers:

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Plastic Wrist Rest
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I'll post more pictures when the samples arrive.

If any keycap that is not listed above but shown in the pictures, it means it's not available.



Order list: (paid already)

1) silat (Shipped)
2) Playtrumpet (Shipped)
3) Wraul (Shipped)
4) Mike Rowe
5) morgofborg (Shipped)
6) mmmty (Shipped)
7) oneproduct
Elrobo (Shipped)
9) Fobbah
10) F u r u y á
11) ishtob
12) OPTiK (Shipped)
13) NotDavidM
14) Kisakuku
15) JPP
16) 눈호랑이
17) JonSpark
18) Glissant
19) Nunez (Shipped)
20) pyro_dragun (Shipped)
21) DrunkenLizard
22) pannkakan (Shipped)
23) fohat.digs
24) Namkung (Shipped)
25) longweight
26) anonymous
27) Hirsti
28) nolliepoper (Shipped)
29) sii92

[dink_]

This is way too tempting... I want to buy one key, but the shipping makes me feel like I need to buy more.

[CaiSter21]

dont these keys have a lot issues with quality control?

[TheProfosist]

Anyway u could geta a full keyboards worth etched your almost there

[KyesaRRi]

I bought some gold and silver W A S D from the last batch and the only issues was some markings on the sides of the gold keys. My sets of silver ones were perfect. I can upload some pictures but they are taken on a phone at night so the quality is fairly bad.

The right shift on a Ducky 1008 is a 3.00 correct? I would be in for a full blank modifier set if i can get a shift to match the rest.
Maybe ill have to buy a new keyboard :roll:

Edit:

Here are some bad pictures of the QC on the last batch

http://imageshack.us/g/441/img20120315200205.jpg/

[divinity]

How do they feel? Do they feel cold and metallic or just like plastic that has had a metallic coating on them?

[feng]

dont these keys have a lot issues with quality control?

The blemish problem has been solved. There's no more finger print. But the tight-fitting problem is still there, it couldn't be solved since MKC can't change the mold of making these keys.

[feng]

Anyway u could geta a full keyboards worth etched your almost there

Many people have asked about that. I tried, but MKC said the zinc spacebar is too heavy and he has stopped making it. But he'll probably produce something like aluminum spacebar or other kinds of metal material in the future.

I bought some gold and silver W A S D from the last batch and the only issues was some markings on the sides of the gold keys. My sets of silver ones were perfect. I can upload some pictures but they are taken on a phone at night so the quality is fairly bad.

The right shift on a Ducky 1008 is a 3.00 correct? I would be in for a full blank modifier set if i can get a shift to match the rest.
Maybe ill have to buy a new keyboard :roll:

Edit:

Here are some bad pictures of the QC on the last batch

http://imageshack.us/g/441/img20120315200205.jpg/

Yeah there was a finger print problem on those Gold keys during the 1st round. But it has been solved in this round.

The right shift on a Ducky, Filco, Leopold, etc. should be 2.75.  I'm working on it and trying to get MKC starts making the other modifier keys.

How do they feel? Do they feel cold and metallic or just like plastic that has had a metallic coating on them?

They do feel cold since they are real metal keycaps. It's not just a metalic coating on them.

[MyNameIsFinn]

hey um, what is the one with the skull on it called?

[MyNameIsFinn]

Also which one is the one with the chick on the pole

[feng]

Also which one is the one with the chick on the pole

They are Punisher and Ducky Logo.

[Playtrumpet]

PM'd/payment sent for a blank backspace (gold). Forgive me if you get like 3 of the same PMs; geekhack is being weird for me.

[IPT]

hey feng, forgive me if this is answered, but what is the warcraft kit?
i was trying to look through your pics for a 7 key set, but I can't figure out which it is lol

[Rumudiez]

I think the Warcraft kit is referring to the Starcraft 2 related keycaps. I didn't see any WC in there, although I didn't check all of them so I might be mistaken.

[feng]

I think the Warcraft kit is referring to the Starcraft 2 related keycaps. I didn't see any WC in there, although I didn't check all of them so I might be mistaken.

Thank you Rumudiez! Can't believe I made such a stupid mistake. I meant to write Starcraft, but somehow I wrote Warcraft. -_-

[morgofborg]

I don't see a price listed, are the printed win keys going to be available? Either silver or gold.

[Djuzuh]

There are a few keys where the picture is here but no price is listed

[Mike Rowe]

I gotta stop coming here. Anyway payment sent

[Parak]

I gotta stop coming here. Anyway payment sent

Yeah, don't you have better things to do, like biting off some sheep testicles or something?

[Zzoram]

What do you guys think would look better on a black keyboard with mostly black keycaps, silver or gold?

[Playtrumpet]

What do you guys think would look better on a black keyboard with mostly black keycaps, silver or gold?

Comes down to preference in the end. I think asking what does the key mean to you and which color fits your taste best are the better questions.

[Zzoram]

I noticed in the sample pictures that the Protoss logo is misprinted for the gold example. If you look at the silver and gold versions, the gold one seems cut off on the left.




Will that be fixed for this batch of gold keycaps?

[Taracta]

Round 4 and now this!  C'mon guy! We are going to end up spending more on kepcaps than on keyboards!

[Playtrumpet]

Round 4 and now this!  C'mon guy! We are going to end up spending more on kepcaps than on keyboards!

I officially HAVE done just that..

[morgofborg]

Pm sent.

[Djuzuh]

Is row 1*the first 2 rows from top ( echap, F1, number keys) or the two rows at bottom (ctrl, space, arrows, …)

[oneproduct]

The top two rows are row 4.

[wompwomp]

Any reason why you've up'd the priced?

[transcend3nt]

aluminium spacebars would be great..

[Djuzuh]

probably too heavy.

[Fobbah]

Payment sent.

*sits on driveway and awaits postman*

[sii92]

I was theorycraftin... I mean theory buying(?) the keycaps and decided to make a excel spreadsheet of it.


Here's the download if anybody wants it
http://www.mediafire.com/?45k5f9bn774c1l9

[sii92]

I was theorycraftin... I mean theory buying(?) the keycaps and decided to make a excel spreadsheet of it.


Here's the download if anybody wants it
http://www.mediafire.com/?45k5f9bn774c1l9

[feng]

aluminium spacebars would be great..

MKC is considering making that, but the aluminium material costs more than zinc. We'll see if he can bring that out.

probably too heavy.

The zinc spacebar is too heavy which is why he no longer makes it. But the aluminium spacebar is lighter than zinc spacebar.

[rekanise]

I had a lot of issues in terms of fit, it was way too tight and damaged my cherry switches, has this problem been rectified in this round?

[sii92]

I was theorycraftin... I mean theory buying(?) the keycaps and decided to make a excel spreadsheet of it.


Here's the download if anybody wants it
http://www.mediafire.com/?45k5f9bn774c1l9

[Swede]

MKC is considering making that, but the aluminium material costs more than zinc. We'll see if he can bring that out.


The zinc spacebar is too heavy which is why he no longer makes it. But the aluminium spacebar is lighter than zinc spacebar.

I'm interested in a complete set if a Alu spacebar made

[feng]

I had a lot of issues in terms of fit, it was way too tight and damaged my cherry switches, has this problem been rectified in this round?

The tight-fitting issue is still there, it can't be rectified since it would have to change the whole mold of making the keycaps which costs really a lot. But I'll keep asking MKC about whether or not he can find some other molds in China.

I wondered about that.  The stem looks a bit squirrely to me.
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I think it's from a guy in China named 李哥, and his English name is Vortex. Really drooling on those keycaps. But it will probably take a long time in order to show up in the market.

[devouringone3]

Feng I would be interested in the wrist rest but I would like to know is the printed "BLIZZARD" layout in between two layers of plastic joint together in a two-piece design? or is it printed directly underneath one single block of plastic/acrylic?

Thank you. I will confirm to you my order:
-- BLIZZARD Tenkeyless wrist rest
-- Shiny gold printed enter
-- Shiny silver Starcraft II tab (if you don't have it I will take any shiny silver Starcraft II key instead) (if you don't have a shiny silver Starcraft II, I will take a shiny silver printed tab instead)

After your reply

[Lord de Seis]

would 1.25 blank set be the same as the printed for $42.5?

[Lord de Seis]

also, i think titanium would be nice for spacebars, too--but i'm just nuts over titanium products, so....

[devouringone3]

,

[feng]

Feng I would be interested in the wrist rest but I would like to know is the printed "BLIZZARD" layout in between two layers of plastic joint together in a two-piece design? or is it printed directly underneath one single block of plastic/acrylic?

Just checked with MKC, he said the image is in between two layer of plastic.

would 1.25 blank set be the same as the printed for $42.5?

Sorry, but it's $6.5 for each one, $45.5 for 7 keys.

Yep Feng once sold titanium space bars too.

That was way too expensive. But really high quality though. Hopefully I can do a group buy for those awesome titanium keys, but the maker is not available at this time, need to wait untill.... he doesn't even know.

[devouringone3]

,

[Swede]

Yep, 60-80 dollars. I wonder about a magnesium space bars. I think magnesium is made to be light but I have no idea about its other characteristics.


Okay Feng my order will be... Actually I will take only the BLIZZARD Tenkeyless wrist rest. Can you tell me about the shipping to Canada? It can't be only 4 dollars (that would be for key caps), lol.

Also, I will pay you but I won't be able to give to you a shipping address just yet because I will be moving in late April / early May, and I still don't know where I'm going. I might also ask you to hold the wrist rest a little longer with you before shipping it, if I'm not yet arrived to my place. Are you O.K. with that? :-/

Thank's a lot!

Magnesium is light and quick to machine. You can apparently machine it twice as fast as aluminium, which means it's really quick! So if we get hold of magnesium, it should be easy to make something out of it. Since machining will be cheap the material cost will be the most we will pay, that will still be a lot I think if... If feng can get his hands on it

(just checked and it's about $40/kg on the market, will be even more for feng I think)
Edit: you will also need special coolant for it, water reacts with magnesium when hot...

[feng]

Magnesium is light for sure, but IMK it's quite expensive due to its value. I should ask MKC about the possibility of making it.

[FinancialWar]

do they have blank version?

[feng]

do they have blank version?

If those are made, there should be blank version available.

[nntnam]

Magnesium is light for sure, but IMK it's quite expensive due to its value. I should ask MKC about the possibility of making it.

Please ask him about the titan as well. I love it :-).

[ekw808]

whats the difference between shiny and the silver plated ones?

[Sifo]

Can MKC make custom images for the wrist rest? Or is he going to make new designs? I want a Team Liquid wrist rest

[feng]

Please ask him about the titan as well. I love it :-).

Titanium is not sure yet, because it's not easy to find the material. But aluminum keycaps will be available.

whats the difference between shiny and the silver plated ones?

They are both electric plated. The shiny ones look shiny. The light would reflect through the surface and it's easy to leave finger print on it. On the other side, you won't be able to leave your finger print on the matt ones.

Can MKC make custom images for the wrist rest? Or is he going to make new designs? I want a Team Liquid wrist rest

Yes he can. But there's a minimum 10 orders required for a custom image. Not sure I'll bring over more choices for the wrist rest, seems like no many people are interested.

[Sifo]

Yes he can. But there's a minimum 10 orders required for a custom image. Not sure I'll bring over more choices for the wrist rest, seems like no many people are interested.

Oh... well maybe not much interest for Team Liquid, but I'm sure many people would buy if it was the geekhack logo. The current designs aren't interesting :\

[feng]

Oh... well maybe not much interest for Team Liquid, but I'm sure many people would buy if it was the geekhack logo. The current designs aren't interesting :\

That what I thought. I don't even know why MKC made this image. Maybe I should ask iMav about the copy right things, and then we'll see what image would look good.

[Sifo]

Sounds good, you should ask iMav for sure. If Team Liquid wasn't so strict on copyright I'm sure you could find enough people on tlnet who'd want the design but oh well sucks for me ^^ having a GH one would be cool as well though.

[Glissant]

Edit: Found the answers I needed.

[Cindori]

Can the picture be removed from the wrist rest? Blizzard logo

[Glissant]

So I ordered and posted earlier, but because of the rollback I have to repost and resend the pm xD.

Ordered and paid.

[NotDavidM]

I wouldnt miss this, I have a wasd set from ebay on some mx reds and the feel is amazing.

[Djuzuh]

How is the profile of the keycaps? Is it exactly the same as on a filco? Or is it different ?

[NotDavidM]

I have it on my leopold and its about the same as the stock keys on it, maybe a bit higher, but i also have a KBC 37 red set and they are undoubtedly higher than those. A picture is in order.

[NotDavidM]

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[Nunez]

Paid, and PM'd

[pyro_dragun]

Sent a PM w/ my order and paid

[feng]

6 days to go!

[oneproduct]

Looking forward to it! If you ever get a 2.75 right shift or a spacebar I'd be interested as well.

[feng]

2.75 shift has already been made, it will be available in the next round.

[oneproduct]

:O
No way I can get it now somehow? (blank silver)
Then all I'll be missing is a metal spacebar!

[longweight]

Are they much higher than the keys on a Filco? I am so tempted to but at least the left 2.25 shift (assume this fits Filco) caps and tab all blank if not a whole set!  mmmmmmmmm!

[Namkung]

sent payment + PM.
thanks

[longweight]

Hi Feng,

Is there still a matt silver black 37 keycap set going?

Thanks

Long

[Glissant]

Yo, feng. How would adding anything to my purchase be best for you?
Can I just send you a pm with the additional order after I pay for the key caps? Just let me know so I can add some keys I want =).

[feng]

:O
No way I can get it now somehow? (blank silver)
Then all I'll be missing is a metal spacebar!

Sorry but it's just too late to submit the order to MKC, we'll have to wait the next round. These keycaps are ready to be shipped to me.

Are they much higher than the keys on a Filco? I am so tempted to but at least the left 2.25 shift (assume this fits Filco) caps and tab all blank if not a whole set!  mmmmmmmmm!

No, they are about the same hight like the keys on a Filco.

Hi Feng,

Is there still a matt silver black 37 keycap set going?

Thanks

Long

What do you mean by silver black?

Yo, feng. How would adding anything to my purchase be best for you?
Can I just send you a pm with the additional order after I pay for the key caps? Just let me know so I can add some keys I want =).

Yean just sned me a PM about your additional order. That will be fine.

[longweight]

Sorry I meant 37 key silver blank set!

[feng]

Yes 37 silver blank keyset is available to order in this round.

[longweight]

Awesome I will get on it now!

[longweight]

Payment and PM sent

[longweight]

Hi Feng, is there a blank set in silver for the ESC / F key row?

[feng]

Hi Feng, is there a blank set in silver for the ESC / F key row?

Yes, check this out "R4 Blank $3.75"

[longweight]

Ahhh ok, $3.75 each? Any discount for buying the row with the 37 keycap set?

[feng]

Ahhh ok, $3.75 each? Any discount for buying the row with the 37 keycap set?

Yeah $3.75 for each. Discount will depends on how many R4 you want.

[longweight]

ESC and F1-F12, and the 3 keys above home end page up / down so 16 in total

[Hirsti]

pm and payment send

[longweight]

Paid for R4 keys

[yearn4]

that kbc poker with full zinc keycap must be 5 pounds....

[Glissant]

Looking forward to getting these so much =) Hope everything goes as planned. Fingers crossed!

[feng]

Items are on the way from China!

I ordered some Zinc Blank Right-Shift Keys. 20 silver and 20 gold ones. Please PM me as soon as you can if you want some of these and need them shipped with your zinc order.

[alrgeez]

hey Feng, i know i'm late, but will you have any extra Blank WASD kits in Gold for sale?

[Glissant]

A little update after the rollback, feng? =)

Absolutely can't wait to get my keys.

[Playtrumpet]

Looks like this will be well-timed for me. I'll actually arrive home before the keys do. =P

[pyro_dragun]

Damn, I'm dumb, I broke 4 of my switches trying to pull these off

[Djuzuh]

Ripster warned about this in his keycap pulling guide :/.

Sucks.

[longweight]

Looks like I will have to buy a Dremel!

[pyro_dragun]

Ripster warned about this in his keycap pulling guide :/.

Sucks.

I tried the wiggling thing and the blue switch part still broke/popped out :/. These zinc caps are definitely really tight just like feng warned.

[Glissant]

Here's hoping you were using a PCB mounted switches. Plated mounted would be such a headache to fix.

I guess I should invest in some sort of drill bit or tiny file.

[Playtrumpet]

Received my beautiful blank backspace today! It's everything I dreamed and heavier. =P I did have to widen the stems slightly, and I put some o-rings on it since it happens to be very loud, but OMG SO PRETTY. I'll post pictures later.

[Playtrumpet]

oops, double post. =D

fuzzy first picture, clearer second
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[CrispyBread]

Are these keys still available for purchase?

[longweight]

Received my beautiful blank backspace today! It's everything I dreamed and heavier. =P I did have to widen the stems slightly, and I put some o-rings on it since it happens to be very loud, but OMG SO PRETTY. I'll post pictures later.

Did it fit ok?

[Playtrumpet]

Did it fit ok?

Yep. I need to widen the stems for the 2 white plastic pieces of the stabilizer because they're not in all the way, but I made sure to widen the middle stem for the switch enough so I wouldn't need to worry about breaking it every time I removed the key. So right now it's just slightly higher than it should be.

[Glissant]

I had forgotten that I got the keys sent to my house in North America, so I won't be able to check them out for another couple of weeks. But they arrived safely and quickly. Thanks, feng! Can't wait to get them on my daily driver.

[Playtrumpet]

Well, can't say I didn't warn everybody.
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?31081-Ripsters-Review-Of-Cheap-Chinese-Zinc-Keys&highlight=zinc

I became fully aware of the tight-fitting problems after my initial search for metal/aluminum keycaps months ago. I was expecting it and ready with tools. The stems were easy enough to widen.

[dorkvader]

What did you use to widen them, playtrumpet?

[Herman]

God damn I would like those cool gold arrow keys, but i was too late like always

[Glissant]

Did you send feng a private message asking him if he has some?

[Playtrumpet]

What did you use to widen them, playtrumpet?

Pliers, small hammer, heat, and a thick wire that gets wider on the end. Helpful for the bottom of the stems which were hardest to widen.

[NotDavidM]

I got mine today and I had a freaking threaded metal rod stuck up in one of my stems, thankfully i could pull it out with some needle nose pliers. Maybe it widened the stem for me?

[OPTiK]

I just added some silicon grease to the inside of where the stems go. Seems to have helped slide them on..not sure about pulling them off yet lol.

[longweight]

I just added some silicon grease to the inside of where the stems go. Seems to have helped slide them on..not sure about pulling them off yet lol.

Give it a go and report back please! What are they like to type on?

[DrunkenLizard]

sweet got my keycaps today, now if I could just find my set of hobby files

[Nunez]

Got mine today, looking good

same issues as the rest though so I haven't put them on anything yet.

[OPTiK]

Give it a go and report back please! What are they like to type on?

I pulled off a key and it def came off easier than without silicon grease. In terms of the feel, they definitely feel weighty (you'll notice it when you hold them). I'm using them on my noppoo choc mini and depending on how hard/fast you hit them you can hear a 'ding', which I actually like. Overall they're pretty unique and I'm glad I got them! Keep in mind that the added weight may have some negative effects to your springs over time. I have all my alt/ctrl/shift keys as zinc so I don't think I have to worry about it too much.

Side note: Depending on your lighting/surroundings the silver will look gold. I have a sky light over my desk so during the day they look gold depending on the angle, but at night they look silver. You may also have a side effect of inquisitive coworkers looking at your keyboard in awh due to the new bling. I'll have a pic up soon once I get one last key.

[longweight]

I pulled off a key and it def came off easier than without silicon grease. In terms of the feel, they definitely feel weighty (you'll notice it when you hold them). I'm using them on my noppoo choc mini and depending on how hard/fast you hit them you can hear a 'ding', which I actually like. Overall they're pretty unique and I'm glad I got them! Keep in mind that the added weight may have some negative effects to your springs over time. I have all my alt/ctrl/shift keys as zinc so I don't think I have to worry about it too much.

Side note: Depending on your lighting/surroundings the silver will look gold. I have a sky light over my desk so during the day they look gold depending on the angle, but at night they look silver. You may also have a side effect of inquisitive coworkers looking at your keyboard in awh due to the new bling. I'll have a pic up soon once I get one last key.

Thanks for reporting back

Please post a pic ASAP!

[longweight]

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[Glissant]

OPTiK, are you saying that your zinc keycaps fit really snugly without the grease, but you were still able to pull them off without breaking any stems? The silicon grease idea was a good one. Might try that when I get mine.

Let's see those lovelies on a keyboard, longweight .

[longweight]

A quick review I have done of them can be found here: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=3063976&postcount=3

Be nice!

[OPTiK]

OPTiK, are you saying that your zinc keycaps fit really snugly without the grease, but you were still able to pull them off without breaking any stems? The silicon grease idea was a good one. Might try that when I get mine.

Let's see those lovelies on a keyboard, longweight .

I'm saying that the grease is the way to go. I wouldn't put these on without it after testing. My final one gets in today I think so I may have a pic up soon!

[oneproduct]

I had a shot at them with a Dremel with a diamond bit today like Ripster suggested and it went so-so. The bit I have is tapered and the thickness at the bottom of the bit is about right but it doesn't go that far down into the stem of the keycap, so I can only use the narrower tip. I'll have to find a different bit. I bought enough keycaps to cover a whole Poker so I have quite a bit of work ahead of me lol.

For those who have experience with a Dremel, what's the best way to go about trimming things out? Do you:
1. apply pressure to the surface with the side of the bit
2. angle the bit and go at the surface with the tip (or maybe the side of the head?) of the bit
3. other!?

Today was my first day using a Dremel so any tips would be welcome! As a side note, it doesn't really seem possible to screw up. I thought I'd go slow in case I made the stems too wide but that hasn't been an issue at all. I just worked on two keycaps and they almost fit now, but not quite. Going to wait till I get a proper bit to continue with the other 60 or so I have.

[dsjbirch]

Can anyone give me some feedback on this set who has bought it...

How difficult is it to make them fit - I have a poker, but I guess cherry is cherry.

Are they cold to the touch when typing and do they remain cold?

Some pics of plain silver (plus points for a filco or poker).

Thanks

[longweight]

I gave up and never fitted them! They do stay cold which is nice.

[dsjbirch]

Really, that's not what I wanted to hear!

Any other takers?

[Glissant]

I'm still waiting to try my keys out, dsjbirch. I'll let you all know what they are like on my poker when I get to the states again. I will be picking up some silicone grease to see if it makes it easier, but we all know by now that these are a very tight fit.

[oneproduct]

I tried dremeling them a bit, and maybe it's just my inexperience with it, but it's harder than it seems. First, it's very slow to do, second, I ended up making one of them a bit too loose since it's hard to make sure that you are dremeling the cruciform wider evenly rather than just in one direction, and third, the bit I was using broke, so that brought an end to that. So I just ended up forcing them on and it's pretty obvious that they're never going to come off.

That's okay with me however as I don't intend to change them and they do look pretty cool. I'll upload a picture a bit later. I bought a full set which covers everything except the spacebar and the enter key (he has an enter available but it hasn't shipped yet). I haven't put on a few of the keys because I have to do something first before I put them on and lose the ability to take them off.

[xquisit]

Anything for sale here that will fit on a KBT RACE?

[oneproduct]

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[Glissant]

That's a good looking setup, oneproduct =D. I am guessing you will be adding the rest when you get them? Too bad we don't have a spacebar zinc plated yet.

[dsjbirch]

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Hmm, they do look very lovely.

But, I don't own a dremel, so what's plan B? I have a powerdrill. Could that work?

I saw talk of using heat and silicon grease too.

Any more success stories?

I'm gonna contact feng and ask what's still available.

[oneproduct]

Well actually, my Dremel was plan A, but I just ended up making things worse by loosening three of them too much as those three don't fit so well anymore. I sort of just gave up and really forced them on, but it's quite clear they are never coming off now. So long as you're absolutely sure you'd never need to change them, it's okay I guess...

You could probably get it right with a Dremel, but it would require crazy amounts of care and patience, which is not something viable for the amount of keys I bought. Also, since my Dremel bit broke while doing it (since it's a small bit it's more fragile) that really decided things for me.

[Playtrumpet]

That must be one loud keyboard.

[Glissant]

I didn't have to use anything to fit my modifier zinc key caps. They fit well on my brown switches and come off without too much effort. Haven't gotten my esc row key yet, so I don't know about the 1x keys.

[oneproduct]

The larger keys that were made later fit nicely. Part of the problem is that I'm using them on a Poker perhaps and the PCB is quite notorious for flexing, so when you try to take them off it makes it want to bend a lot rather than coming off nicely. Still though, they're pretty nice, but I just don't ever intend to try to remove them now that they're on.