1. Pair the trackman marble with any keyboard/pointer package? (All their wireless packages are keyboard and mouse only).
2. Sell a bluetooth trackman marble? Why not Logitech, Why? A bluetooth trackman marble would make it in my bag in record time.
I already have the greatest pointing device invented built in!! The TRACKPOINT! :)
Trackpoint? PUKE! That is the absolute worst last resort device. It is disabled on my Thinkpad and most times, I'll try figuring out the keyboard shortcuts before I enable it.
Funny thing is, my father owns the original Logitech Trackman Marble and he still uses it to this day. I think he'd cry if something ever happened to it.
I really liked the original 3 button trackball from Logitech, earlier than the one you present above.
My new favorite pointing device is my Kensington Expert Mouse (http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html).
Are you able to use this device effectively for gaming? I do know someone that plays both FPS games and real-time strategy games with a similar type of trackball...I have never been able to adjust to using one such as this though.
TrackPoint IV by far. (Not a fan of trackballs, and mice are merely OK, in my opinion.)
And I even play the occasional game of UT2k4 with the TrackPoint in my X61 Tablet.
As for touchpads... I find the one on my iBook tolerable, but I hate moving to the touchpad to move the mouse pointer. The TrackPoint being RIGHT THERE helps a lot.
The whole lot of them give me finger cramps. And just try doign anything in Visio with them.
That's pretty hopeful, iMav. You never know what this thing is going to look like or how the final will spec out. It could still come out and suck.
IMHO, the best pointing device EVER is the original Logitech Trackman Marble:Show Image(http://www.uhhh.org/~lherzog/blog-images/logitechtrackmanmarble.jpg)
The three full-sized buttons is what I love about this trackball. Right clicking is meant to be done with your ring finger!! :)
If you MUST have a scroll wheel, then the Logitech Trackman Marble - Wheel is a good alternative (and these, if you can find them, sell for over $200 now days):Show Image(http://www.uhhh.org/~lherzog/blog-images/logitechtrackmanmarblewheel.jpg)
Unfortunately, the only thing close that is available (to my knowledge) for sale is the latest iteration from Logitech, the current Trackman:Show Image(http://www.uhhh.org/~lherzog/blog-images/logitechtrackman.jpg)
It's decent, but is not a true three-button device. (no button for your ring finger unless you squeeze your fingers together)
Yep. At this point, I don't know what to expect from them. I guess I'd be happy with the fit and finish of an Endurapro in a Mighty Mouse form factor. But I'd like a bit more. (detachable cable, USB hub, 3 buttons, etc)
sorry iMav, I think you hope for too much. I am just hopeful that they actually release a Mighty Mouse with clicky keys. Anything beyond that would be gravy.
I'm expecting a pre-Model M AT style boat with a trackpoint. ;)
sorry iMav, I think you hope for too much. I am just hopeful that they actually release a Mighty Mouse with clicky keys. Anything beyond that would be gravy.
Mind you, one of those new features is most likely Windows keys.
I'm expecting a pre-Model M AT style boat with a trackpoint. ;)
With such bold moves as eliminating black keys in favor of grey, do you even care to guess?
Mind you, one of those new features is most likely Windows keys.
My god man, you should be a comedian. While I love my unicomp board, you hit the nail on the head.
My expectations have been duly deflated.....sigh.
The only bright spot I see is that it will have buckling springs. Beyond that......
Now that I own an "old school mighty mouse", I have to say that I will purchase a new one even if the only change is to incorporate buckling springs. This thing reminds me a LOT of typing on an old Thinkpad (which is, for the most part,an enjoyable experience) The form factor is great...even thought it isn't quite as compact as the HHKB.
Logitech Trackman Marble - Wheel (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-TrackMan-Marble-Wheel-Mac/dp/B00004L8IG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_7/104-7933601-0774318?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1187758653&sr=8-7) USED, for $199. :shock:
Just one example as to just how popular these are. :wink:
IMHO, the best pointing device EVER is the original Logitech Trackman Marble:Show Image(http://www.uhhh.org/~lherzog/blog-images/logitechtrackmanmarble.jpg)
The three full-sized buttons is what I love about this trackball. Right clicking is meant to be done with your ring finger!! :)
If you MUST have a scroll wheel, then the Logitech Trackman Marble - Wheel is a good alternative (and these, if you can find them, sell for over $200 now days):Show Image(http://www.uhhh.org/~lherzog/blog-images/logitechtrackmanmarblewheel.jpg)
I saw the those two on Ebay for reasonably cheap. Is there any reason why you'd recommend the non-scroll wheel equipped one over the one with the scroll wheel?
I think you would want the scroll wheel. How else do you scroll through web pages?You tap the middle button and move the cursor up and down. AutoScroll.
I think you would want the scroll wheel. How else do you scroll through web pages?
You tap the middle button and move the cursor up and down. AutoScroll.
That's what I was thinking :p I was just wondering if by "If you MUST have a scroll wheel" that iMav was implying that the original was better. Unless it was a matter of preference on his part not to have a scroll wheel.
Yes, and I get rather annoyed when I have to use a mouse that doesn't have on. I guess it was more a case that I was curious why someone would pick a non-scroll wheel mouse over another :)
It would be nice if kensington added a scroll wheel to the Orbit mouse. Like it has for the expert mouse.
I'd like this. I remember reading bad reviews of the scroll wheel but it was my favourite feature.
On another note, its hard to find trackball mice that can be used with either hand.
The main complaint seemed to be the plastic on plastic feel. It isn't like a mouse scroll wheel but I found it worked really well. I switched to trackballs from a graphics tablet so I didn't have a fixed idea of how a scroll wheel should feel. I also found the Expert much too large for my hands, and the buttons too stiff.
Have you tried the Logitech Marble Mouse? You might find it too small, but it fits my hands really well.
I think there was a fix for the Expert scroll ring somewhere.
I was going to buy a wireless mouse to try to see if I like them any better...but couldn't find anything decent that was bluetooth. I thought the Logitech MX Revolution felt great in my hand...but it requires the use of a USB dongle (which is ridiculous).
What are everyone's favorite bluetooth-enabled pointing devices??
: ) I have that mouse. And it is a nice mouse. What keeps me on the kensington is that the logitech marble mouse, while it has 4 buttons, the top 2 buttons are too small.
The one on the left(I use the mouse left-handed) is not even usable for me unless I contort my hand.
What are everyone's favorite bluetooth-enabled pointing devices??
The main complaint seemed to be the plastic on plastic feel. It isn't like a mouse scroll wheel but I found it worked really well. I switched to trackballs from a graphics tablet so I didn't have a fixed idea of how a scroll wheel should feel. I also found the Expert much too large for my hands, and the buttons too stiff.
I was going to buy a wireless mouse to try to see if I like them any better...but couldn't find anything decent that was bluetooth. I thought the Logitech MX Revolution felt great in my hand...but it requires the use of a USB dongle (which is ridiculous).
What are everyone's favorite bluetooth-enabled pointing devices??
I have a Logiteck Trackman FX, see thumbnail below, which I bought in 2001 I think. Its seen about 4 weeks worth of use. The main problem was the lack of a scroll wheel. I'm curious if these are still popular, I consider it much better than the small ball variants.
But re-reading the thread and remembering that the original drivers support setting one of the buttons to activate page scrolling based on the ball, I think I'll see if I can make something like this work in Linux, if it does, I'd be happy to put this crazy thing back into use. It would definitely look cool next to an unlabled HHKB.
What I would really like would be a click to enable scrolling, a click to disable. Holding to activate would drive me nuts. I'll have to google around a bit. Also, yes, I'm currently using gnome, but thinking of moving over to fluxbox, as I need nearly none of the gnome features.
Two modifier keys sounds a bit much.. I also think I'd like to be able to lock it in scroll mode.
The challenge with alot of modal stuff like that is making sure you catch the "exit this mode" indicator properly. It could probably be done at the window manager level fairly easily, depending on your window manager.
I thought about that a while back, because I'm really addicted to scrollwheels, hate it when I have to use scrollbars again. This is also a problem with integrated devices. So for example in this ridiculous imaginary version of lowpoly's great mod, scrolling would be Fn + trackball.Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=362&stc=1&d=1229214023)
I also think I'd like to be able to lock it in scroll mode. Here, the blank bottom right key is my Lock key. Locks shift,
Fn, scroll, etc. (whatever modifier it is pressed with).
P.S. Ring finger should be for scrolling AND middle click, like with modern mice. Unfortunately no such original trackman (is there?), but I'm going to try the one with the wheel.
I was going to buy a wireless mouse to try to see if I like them any better...but couldn't find anything decent that was bluetooth. I thought the Logitech MX Revolution felt great in my hand...but it requires the use of a USB dongle (which is ridiculous).
What are everyone's favorite bluetooth-enabled pointing devices??
My all time favorite pointing device is the sadly discontinued Microsoft Trackball Optical which (again sadly) cannot be had for less than $80 :(Show Image(http://i19.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/2f/00/ede5_1.JPG)
I really like my thinkpad's trackpoint, especially with the quite unpopular soft rim cap. It feels weird at first, but greatly enhances both precision and speed, which is quite important on the 1680x1050 display.I like my TrackPoint IV with the normal cats tongue cap. The texture is a bit hard when it's brand new,but it wears down nicely in the first month.
As far as mice go, few things can beat the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 2 (I didn't lilke the Explorer 3).
-huha
I like my TrackPoint IV with the normal cats tongue cap. The texture is a bit hard when it's brand new,but it wears down nicely in the first month.
The cats tongue feels really weird on my Thinkpad (I suppose it's a Trackpoint IV with the Thinkpad being a Z60m), but feels quite well on my Unicomp Endurapro.I like it on my X60, but it does feel like i hit the cap some when typing. At least more so than the soft cap it came with. But a far more pressing problem is the half-broken spacebar. I need to replace this board because of that damn thing.
-huha
If it's still under warranty, just call IBM, they'll send you a new keyboard. It can be swapped in a matter of minutes, so that's no big deal.I don't think its under warranty, I picked it up used anyway. A new one is like thirty bucks so that's not a whole lot.
-huha
color=orange]Trackpoint? [/color] PUKE! That is the absolute worst last resort device. It is disabled on my Thinkpad and most times, I'll try figuring out the keyboard shortcuts before I enable it.
I also have a ThinkPad and I hate the TrackPoint. It's terrible for gaming and the rubber cap pops off a lot.
I also have a ThinkPad and I hate the TrackPoint. It's terrible for gaming and the rubber cap pops off a lot.
Isn't the point of a trackpoint to supplement a mouse? And for emergencies when you don't have one.
I've avoided them in the past, but think I would love one now that I get the idea.
The Rosewill looks very comfortable; I sort of wish I had gotten it in lieu of the G5 (damned non-clicky side buttons)
I grabbed a Razer Deathadder and a Logitech G9 thinking I'd use one or the other for gaming, and keep using the IE 3.0 for everything else. But after getting used to the higher DPI mice, the IE 3.0 felt quite sluggish on the desktop.
What is an IE?
What is an IE?
LOL, actually my trackball turned out to be terrible, yet I turned the sensitivity up and the TrackPoint is an awesome FPS device now. I was completely wrong and I now love the TrackPoint more than any other pointing device.
When you say 'smooth to use', do you mean in terms of the mouse's tracking or what?
Mhmm. They're quite cheap for a gamers mouse, still would prefer the MX518 though - prefer comfort over glide any day.
My favorite pointing device is no pointing device. Mice and trackballs are the industry's contribution to work-related injuries. I wish we could go back to green screens and text-only interfaces. (yes I use a lot of console apps on *NIX!)
What do you need then? (asides from soft-ish buttons)
-> Logitech G9 (yay for functionality and looks, boo for small hand support surface)
-> Logitech Mx518 (yay for functionality and hand support surface, boo for looks)
Actually Id prefer a Mx518 in black + scroll-wheel with L/R functionality like the G9 has (kinda useful to go forward/backward trough tabs in Firefox etc.)
Well, the Japanese variant of the Mx518 (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=114583&postcount=18) should at least still my visual needs, hope it will arrive soon! >.>
What do you need then? (asides from soft-ish buttons)
I'm not going to wade into the is "proper size" debate but will say I like the VX Nano for laptop use. I know some people like it for desktop use as a smaller VX Revolution.
Sounds like it could be worth your time trying a trackball. Ironically, the one which I think is the most comfortable to use is made by Logitech... (Trackman Wheel)
Where did you find someone to deliver?Check out the link (http://benippon.com/en/catalogsearch/result/?q=Logicool+MX-518) in the linked post (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=114583&postcount=18) from my post you quoted (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=114587&postcount=126)... ;D
Check out the link (http://benippon.com/en/catalogsearch/result/?q=Logicool+MX-518) in the linked post (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=114583&postcount=18) from my post you quoted (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=114587&postcount=126)... ;D
Is that a 4 button trackball?
What's stopping you from accidentally pressing the 'mouse' buttons when using it as a trackball?
From the picture, it looks like the bottom expands out to cause the buttons and the ball to recede into the case.
I haven't seen this trackman before.
Lately, I have been toying with mousekeys using the number pad, instead of moving over to the mouse. I cranked it to full speed and full acceleration, with Ctrl and Shift modifier options for speed up and slow down. How is your experience with mousekeys, lads ?
Lately, I have been toying with mousekeys using the number pad, instead of moving over to the mouse. I cranked it to full speed and full acceleration, with Ctrl and Shift modifier options for speed up and slow down. How is your experience with mousekeys, lads ?
I bet more people would use it if MS explained how it bloody worked! I've always meant to learn it but been put off by its funny behaviour.
The good old BBC comes to the rescue (http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/win/keyboard/mouse_easy/numberpad/mouse-numpad-xp.shtml)!...
Now I just need to work out why the Alt-Shift-NumLock toggle has no effect, and how to use it with tenkeyless boards.
I use the mouseless browsing extension for Firefox which is even better.
I don't know. The first and last time I used Lotus Notes was 14 years ago. Why won' t it die?
Wolf King Trooper gaming mouse.
I use it for CAD/CAM, but its the most comfortable mouse I have found so far.
I can sit and use the computer at work for 8 to 10 hours programming and drawing parts for the CNC machines without my had falling asleep, like it used to with the cheap crap the IT guy there would get us to use.(OEM Microsoft).. Seems like if you want something good to use, you have to go and get it yourself.
The adjustable DPI is a plus too.
Since we all have different needs and different opinions, maybe someone with enough spare time can start a Listing for everyone to submit their favourite Pointing Device, only ONE vote per Member allowed. Then we can keep count as to THE most popular, rodent/ sphere etc etc etc.
Maybe a Listing of our current favourite Keyboard would also be interesting.
They also have just two simple buttons, no bells and whistles.
Yep, and I'm sure I could survive on two buttons if I used Windows 95 too!
As usual, you're completely missing the point.
If you talk about the lack of buttons needed, OS X wins by default.
A pointing device that just points may allow for considerably more freedom in its ergonomic design: no pesky button areas to allocate, and all parts of the hand in contact with the device can be commandeered for making it point.
Windows 7 is by far the most reliable version of Windows I've ever used, and I've had extensive experience with pretty much all of them. Sure it's bloated, but that's what you get for using Windows...
What horrifies me most about the thought of a two button mouse is web browsing. I'm sure I was able to survive back in the day without a scroll wheel and a quick way to open tabs (middle button) but it's definitely not an experience I would like to repeat.
Who are you, Steve Jobs? (I mean the no-button, thing)
Most people would balk at the idea of having to use two hands in order to just do a left click. Honestly, it's not that big of a deal to have a one-button mouse in OS X, because you really don't use right-click that often.
When I want to use tabbed browsing, I use Firefox and either press Ctrl+T for a new tab or click on the New Tab button. If I want to scroll, I just use the arrow keys, PgUp, PgDn, Home, and End. It's actually much faster than using a scroll wheel.
If a buttonless trackball is attached under a desk, say, you should be able to move it with the knee or side of leg to position the cursor. The hands don't need to leave the keyboard. One can already experiment with this notion by placing a contemporary symmetric trackball on the floor and rolling it within its acetabulum using one's (clean) heel. While you can develop a fine kinesthetic sense for cursor positioning, using the foot (or toes) to also manipulate the buttons is demonstrably tedious -- and luckily unnecessary, given the hands on the keyboard.
I meant the tab thing in relation to opening a link in a new tab. Sure I could right click, move the mouse then select 'Open in New Tab', but that's just slow. And as with the scroll wheel, I find it alot more precise than using keyboard buttons.
My point is that unlike keyboards, mice are getting better and more useful as time goes on. I really can't see any way in which an old MS two button mouse is better than even a basic contemporary model, but I can see loads of ways in which it is worse.
Gawd I love trackballs. They are hilarious.
Warning, NSFW! - Linky. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L37uZDdeeAY)
I'd say that my favorite pointing devices are the trackball integrated into my keyboard and my IBM Trackpoint L40 which I got NIB off of Ebay for 5.95USD.Show Image(http://www.usimperio.com/recycled/product_images/ibm/ibm_trackpoint.jpg)
It was made in 1991 (before the conventional pointing stick was commercially available) and transforms from a mouse to a trackball. It also comes with an amusing owner's manual and a mouse driver for DOS on a 720K floppy.
I scored one of those newer PS/2 IBM mice once, with this computer setup I picked up for free for the keyboard, but can't say I care for it, and I don't see the fuss about them. Old mice like this are inferior because of the plastic balls to track movement (good thing we left those behind), lack of buttons and lack of scroll wheel. The keyboard however...
I don't have a scroll wheel to miss.
If anyone has one of those trackball things they want to resell for about 5 bucks and ship for ACTUAL shipping cost, I'd appreciate a PM. eBay seller is insisting on shipping priority because they "need to have tracking". That "requirement" is costing them a customer...
I strongly recommend people HOLD OFF on buying one of the L40 mice from u.s.surplus because the seller has a serious courtesy issue and appears to gouge on shipping.
I'd miss the scroll wheel on that thing...
Well, the seller made his way onto my "Difficult/Dishonest eBay Sellers List" on a couple sites I participate on now based on that fiasco. I was ultimately told in ALLCAPS to "buy one elsewhere". Thanks Ron, your courtesy is appreciated.
I strongly recommend people HOLD OFF on buying one of the L40 mice from u.s.surplus because the seller has a serious courtesy issue and appears to gouge on shipping.
...looks like a while before I end up with one to play with, but there will be others.
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I completely forgot to include the extra-heavy Microsoft "serial/mouse port compatible" mice in my favs list. Recently got another one of those, this time with a PS/2 end on it. I definitely like them...they track really smoothly and the weight is kind of "reassuring".
When looking for a mouse, do you prefer a heavy or light mouse? (directed at anyone who reads it, nobody in particular)
I use the middle finger all the time. Wait. What were we talking about?
Ugh I hate the "Electronic shipping info received". It can mean anything from "Seller arranged it to ship in 3 months" to "The USPS tracking system shows no updates once again and the mail guy can deliver it in 5 minutes."
You're Microsoft Windows EVIL TWIN!!!!!Show Image(http://spot.colorado.edu/~finkelsn/pics/mini-me.jpg)
Been using my MX 11800 trackball. Not as good as my Trackman, but not bad either. Certainly a space saver.
I am using an old Microsoft mouse, one of the ones with a scroll wheel. PS/2 interface. It works every once in a while, but not often enough. The same with the scroll buttons on the trackpad. They only work sometimes. Is it just that Micron Transports are not common enough for Ubuntu 9.10 to have drivers for it?
Ah, crapola. My just-received $52 eBay trackman FX trackball isn't as smooth as my $5 flea market version of the same hardware.
Cleaned the triple contacts, cleaned the ball. What's left to fix? Am I doomed to a scratchey old age trackball? Would teflon pads be more smooth and would they allow spins after my fingers left the ball?
try rubbing the ball against your forehead or side of your face. that should help to smooth things out.
I prefer oils from the inner thighs of Vestal Virgins
It's called the "Lady From Shanghai" effect
Ah, crapola. My just-received $52 eBay trackman FX trackball isn't as smooth as my $5 flea market version of the same hardware.
I scored one of those newer PS/2 IBM mice once, with this computer setup I picked up for free for the keyboard, but can't say I care for it, and I don't see the fuss about them. Old mice like this are inferior because of the plastic balls to track movement (good thing we left those behind), lack of buttons and lack of scroll wheel. The keyboard however...
Wow, this IS an old thread.
Anywhere there is a new contender!Show Image(http://dailyapps.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/IPad2.png)
Anywhere there is a new contender!I like this idea better:Show Image(http://dailyapps.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/IPad2.png)
I was ignorant enough then not to grab at least one from the recycling bin ... gah!
I like the old Microsoft serial mice.
hmm... my favorite pointing device didn't show up anywhere in this thread. It would have if we had more female members.
Got me two of these (http://www.logitech.com/en-hk/mice-pointers/mice/devices/4259). It owns...IT OWNS!
Got one of those that I gave to my little sister to use. Bought one when I was in early high school or late middle school... roughly 5-6 years ago.
My current fav: Steelseries Xai (http://imgur.com/pjyye.jpg)
For twice the price of mine it looks like it got a lot of bad reviews...also I'm skeptical whether laser is much better than optical
I really like my steelseries xai, but I wish my steelseries ikari laser had the Avago 9500 laser sensor because it's like putting your hand in a baseball glove.
I like this idea better:Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=12366&stc=1&d=1283563739)
The "MouseTrapper". It is a touchpad that is mechanical and tactile!
Unfortunately, the price of this thing is around $300 ... used, and I doubt that we see many of these outside of Sweden.
My favourite pointing device is my Right fore-finger
You know, it's rude to point at people.Seriously, I use my right fore-finger with Touch-Screen, I wasn't being rude or a smart-aleck.
How's that elbow of yours??
I'm a fan of the razer naga, but if you don't play mmo's, you'll probably find it laughable. Otherwise, the deathadder is my standby. It's still a solid mouse.
I don't know. I have a plenty of mice and trackballs - G900, G500, G9, Orochi, RAT5, MX Air (ex-mice MX518, G5, Deathadder), Slimblade and Orbit, but I don't really feel strongly about any one of them. G900 gets the most day to day use, it's a the hyperscroll and nice buttons, but otherwise I'm still 'whatever' about it.
G900?
Any pics?
I'm currently using a SteelSeries Xai. Basic shape, great texture on top of the shell and rubberized sides. The clicks are perfect on every single button and the "steps" on the mouse wheel are tactile without being clicky - just perfect all around really.
I also like the G9, DeathAdder and Imperator. I would use the Imperator all the time because it's perfect for my hand but the problem is - like most Razer mice it uses high gloss on the sides which feels so terrible after an hour or so of using it. :( If I could put a rubber coating on it that's similar to what the Xai uses on it's side(combination of smooth and grippy, doesn't collect moisture) I would use it 100%.
I'm really diggin the Logi Anywhere MX for casual surfing.Show Image(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5349875/anywheremx.jpg)
(Review here (http://themobileexperience.blogspot.com/2010/06/review-logitech-anywhere-mouse-mx.html))
for gaming though (serios businos!!!1), I use the logitech g3
Oops. I got the two switched around.
Maybe AAAs aren't so bad. I rarely have had to replace it.
Razer Lachesis Refresh. I like the Lachesis shape very much, but the settings and the tracking of the new one (got it today) is just awesome!
So far it's the best mouse for gaming I've ever used. The shape is perfect for shooters, but awkward for gaming.
It's sad though, razer can't do much else right besides mice and pads. :(
Does anybody know the "real DPI", that the Laser sensor has natively?
I especially dig the shape of this mouse. I use this shape all the time, for working, shooters, other games. Personally i can't stand shapes like Logitech MX518 or Razer Deathadder. But i must say i had the Logitechs a long time, until the Lachesis came out ;). For my hands the Lachesis is perfect!
I tried some UT2004 with the new lachesis, works good with my new mousepad (razer ironclad).
Does anybody know the "real DPI", that the Laser sensor has natively?
I believe it's 5600.
He knows that obviously from the 5600 stamping on the box. What he means is does the sensor interpolate DPI from a lesser amount.
In other words the competing top sensor of the PTE(Philips twin-eye 2) is the ADNS-9500. The 9500 goes up to 6000 DPI(Roccat Kone+) but from what some have mentioned on the dataspecs of the 9500 engine. The engines true DPI tops out at around 4000-5000 mark so the additional DPI done by the G500/G700/G9X/Kone is construed as interpolated.
In other words the competing top sensor of the PTE(Philips twin-eye 2) is the ADNS-9500. The 9500 goes up to 6000 DPI(Roccat Kone+) but from what some have mentioned on the dataspecs of the 9500 engine. The engines true DPI tops out at around 4000-5000 mark so the additional DPI done by the G500/G700/G9X/Kone is construed as interpolated.
He knows that obviously from the 5600 stamping on the box. What he means is does the sensor interpolate DPI from a lesser amount.
In other words the competing top sensor of the PTE(Philips twin-eye 2) is the ADNS-9500. The 9500 goes up to 6000 DPI(Roccat Kone+) but from what some have mentioned on the dataspecs of the 9500 engine. The engines true DPI tops out at around 4000-5000 mark so the additional DPI done by the G500/G700/G9X/Kone is construed as interpolated.
I have a few favourites.
Mx-518
Zowie ec1
deathadder 3g
3.0
Bought a new DA3.5g recently and had to post it straight back. LOL at razer for breaking their only decent mouse.
No rollermouse fans?
Wacom pen
Microsoft Intellimouse Optical
Rollermouse
ThinkPad Clit
middle finger?
on a touchpad or a touchscreen?
The 3.5g sensor if I understand it is magnitudes better than the 3G. Unless they changed the shape they didn't break anything.
The 3.5g sensor is very poor in comparison to the 3g sensor (look it up on any forum....ESR for example). Jitters, acceleration on cloth pads where the 3g was near perfect. All because casual gamers think super high dpi = better.
Probably passable for high sensitivity players though. But truly a broken mouse for me. :)
The 3.5g sensor is very poor in comparison to the 3g sensor (look it up on any forum....ESR for example). Jitters, acceleration on cloth pads where the 3g was near perfect. All because casual gamers think super high dpi = better.
Probably passable for high sensitivity players though. But truly a broken mouse for me. :)
3.5g sensor issues can be fixed with a firmware update. But with the abyssus it's not possible due to not having the SROM memory chip to flash the mouse.
And I'm sure with the open-source version of the S3888; the ADNS-3090 avago probably fixed the issues.
Actually, krakoff described it as being the other way aruond, speaking poorly of the 3g sensor for the same reasons.
Actually, krakoff described it as being the other way aruond, speaking poorly of the 3g sensor for the same reasons.
3.5g sensor issues can be fixed with a firmware update..
I'm very partial to my Logitech G700s, I'm not sure where to go from here. I'm sure by the time I need another mouse logitech will have a newer (hopefully improved) version out.