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Offline Vaun

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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 04 June 2015, 05:00:44 »
I'm going to need to start saving funds pronto. Are you guys working against any deadline?
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 04 June 2015, 20:21:13 »
Quote from: Vaun on Thu, 04 June 2015, 05:00:44
I'm going to need to start saving funds pronto. Are you guys working against any deadline?

No, but it should be finished very soon. The PCB is done and we are just polishing out the silkscreen and making sure the plate supports all the different layouts.
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:15:23 »
Does anyone knows if Soarer's firmware supports backlighting? If not, then I'll have to start the PCB design from scratch, given some design limitations of tmk_keyboard. :(
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:17:15 »
Quote from: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:15:23
Does anyone knows if Soarer's firmware supports backlighting? If not, then I'll have to start the PCB design from scratch, given some design limitations of tmk_keyboard. :(

Hey Vinny.
Not good at this stuff, but does this: https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/issues/111 help you?
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:23:31 »
Quote from: LeandreN on Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:17:15
Quote from: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:15:23
Does anyone knows if Soarer's firmware supports backlighting? If not, then I'll have to start the PCB design from scratch, given some design limitations of tmk_keyboard. :(

Hey Vinny.
Not good at this stuff, but does this: https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/issues/111 help you?
hasu already linked that to me. My problem isn't with backlighting per se. It's about the maximum number of columns/rows the firmware support. The way tmk is structured it allows a 16x16 maximum matrix. This keyboard have 19 columns. That's why I'm asking about Soarer's firmware, because AFAIK it is agnostic to column/row number (as long as you have a keyboard with a maximum of 256 keys).
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:34:31 »
Nevermind, already found a solution for that. Just need to rearrange some columns and rows, but it'll work.
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:38:22 »
Quote from: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 05 June 2015, 08:34:31
Nevermind, already found a solution for that. Just need to rearrange some columns and rows, but it'll work.

Awesome :)
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard >NEEDS A NAME<
« Reply #57 on: Sat, 06 June 2015, 02:03:11 »
Any suggestions as to the name?
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard >NEEDS A NAME<
« Reply #58 on: Sat, 06 June 2015, 02:13:48 »
Quote from: doodersbrother on Sat, 06 June 2015, 02:03:11
Any suggestions as to the name?

- The Dooder
- "Right"hand man and "Left"hand man for whichever side your keypad is on
- Call one Brennan Huff and the other Dale Doback from "Stepbrothers"
- Dooder K01
- The brother board
- LXXVIII (78 in roman numerals)

Just a few crappy ideas lol
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard >NEEDS A NAME<
« Reply #59 on: Sat, 06 June 2015, 08:11:25 »
Really interesting. That's a pity I already started on a new project. Good luck with the group buys.:)
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard >NEEDS A NAME<
« Reply #60 on: Sat, 06 June 2015, 12:02:40 »
I was thinking. If the pcb will be in two parts to support left and right arrangement. Will the plate also be in two parts and will the mounting holes in the case support this? Also need to consider the usb port placement. Would be freaking awesome if you could pull it off.
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard >NEEDS A NAME<
« Reply #61 on: Sat, 06 June 2015, 12:10:53 »
Quote from: Vaun on Sat, 06 June 2015, 12:02:40
I was thinking. If the pcb will be in two parts to support left and right arrangement. Will the plate also be in two parts and will the mounting holes in the case support this? Also need to consider the usb port placement. Would be freaking awesome if you could pull it off.
After some discussions and design checks, we decided to abandon the idea of separated boards and a single case for both versions: the gains are simply negligible to be worthy.
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard >NEEDS A NAME<
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 07 June 2015, 18:31:34 »
Just wanted to let you guys know the plate for the prototype is on the way! My plates are on the bottom right.

103007-0
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103011-2

Plates are made of steel and then sandblasted. Should be very solid  :thumb:
« Last Edit: Sun, 07 June 2015, 18:33:23 by doodersbrother »
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard >NEEDS A NAME<
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 08 June 2015, 09:15:17 »
Quote from: doodersbrother on Sun, 07 June 2015, 18:31:34
Just wanted to let you guys know the plate for the prototype is on the way! My plates are on the bottom right.

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Plates are made of steel and then sandblasted. Should be very solid  :thumb:

Looks great! Much excite  :D
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard >NEEDS A NAME<
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 10 June 2015, 18:02:40 »
If you guys could fill out this poll it would be very appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard &gt;NEEDS A NAME&lt;
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 10 June 2015, 18:04:54 »
Quote from: doodersbrother on Wed, 10 June 2015, 18:02:40
If you guys could fill out this poll it would be very appreciated. Thanks!
Eyy, I've got your plates :)
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Re: [IC] 78 Key 60% + Numpad Keyboard >NEEDS A NAME<
« Reply #66 on: Wed, 10 June 2015, 21:03:27 »
You should name it the desktop truck, because it has a similar layout to the apple desktop bus keyboard, and it's built like a truck :P
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 11 June 2015, 21:50:16 »
Another update. We decided to omit the second USB port on the hub as we wouldn't have been able to get the ports to be flush with the case. So instead we used the space between the numberpad and alphanumeric part of the keyboard and only use one single USB port. 
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 11 June 2015, 23:50:42 »
Quote from: doodersbrother on Thu, 11 June 2015, 21:50:16
Another update. We decided to omit the second USB port on the hub as we wouldn't have been able to get the ports to be flush with the case. So instead we used the space between the numberpad and alphanumeric part of the keyboard and only use one single USB port.

Good to know, looking forward to get the board.  ;D
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 14 June 2015, 20:50:03 »
PCB completed!!

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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 14 June 2015, 21:17:03 »
Quote from: doodersbrother on Sun, 14 June 2015, 20:50:03
PCB completed!!

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The PCB core is ready, now I just have to finish the details, namely silkcreen legends.
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 02:29:58 »
Quote from: doodersbrother on Sun, 14 June 2015, 20:50:03
PCB completed!!

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Looks good! Are you the designer behind the Planck PCB?
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 05:31:45 »
Quote from: wlhlm on Mon, 15 June 2015, 02:29:58
Quote from: doodersbrother on Sun, 14 June 2015, 20:50:03
PCB completed!!

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Looks good! Are you the designer behind the Planck PCB?
No, Jack made the design himself.
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 06:17:23 »
Quote from: VinnyCordeiro on Mon, 15 June 2015, 05:31:45
Quote from: wlhlm on Mon, 15 June 2015, 02:29:58
Quote from: doodersbrother on Sun, 14 June 2015, 20:50:03
PCB completed!!

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Looks good! Are you the designer behind the Planck PCB?
No, Jack made the design himself.

No, that was actually me.  :D  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70092

But the black PCB was definitely Jack's idea. I prefer red. Red goes faster.  ;D
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 15 June 2015, 06:29:43 »
Quote from: Wilba on Mon, 15 June 2015, 06:17:23
Quote from: VinnyCordeiro on Mon, 15 June 2015, 05:31:45
Quote from: wlhlm on Mon, 15 June 2015, 02:29:58
Quote from: doodersbrother on Sun, 14 June 2015, 20:50:03
PCB completed!!

(Attachment Link)
Looks good! Are you the designer behind the Planck PCB?
No, Jack made the design himself.

No, that was actually me.  :D  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70092

But the black PCB was definitely Jack's idea. I prefer red. Red goes faster.  ;D
Sorry, didn't know that.

This PCB will be matte black, which is fine. I myself prefer blue because it is cooler. :)
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #75 on: Tue, 16 June 2015, 10:48:09 »
Wooo! looking good!
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Offline doodersbrother

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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #76 on: Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:13:37 »
Plates came!


« Last Edit: Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:18:10 by doodersbrother »
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #77 on: Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:18:19 »
Quote from: doodersbrother on Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:13:37
Plates came!

Woohoo! It's awesome to see this project come together. 
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #78 on: Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:18:48 »

Quote from: doodersbrother on Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:13:37
Plates came!
Great, so we have pcb+plate? Any info for the case?
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #79 on: Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:30:08 »
Quote from: cryptowillem on Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:18:19
Quote from: doodersbrother on Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:13:37
Plates came!

Woohoo! It's awesome to see this project come together. 

It'll be quite a nice board when all the parts come!

Quote from: simonyunhe on Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:18:48

Quote from: doodersbrother on Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:13:37
Plates came!
Great, so we have pcb+plate? Any info for the case?

Actually we have a PCB render. Right now we are just adding the finishing touches on both the PCB and case and then we'll start the prototype run for those two as well.
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #80 on: Sun, 21 June 2015, 12:53:53 »
But are those the final plates? That would make me a sad panda as they are very restricted. But then again I don't see any mounting holes either so are they just a prototype?
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #81 on: Sun, 21 June 2015, 15:20:18 »
No mounting holes for the plate? :/
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #82 on: Sun, 21 June 2015, 15:30:04 »
Not final plates. Just prototypes. The final ones will support more layouts and will have mount holes.
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #83 on: Sun, 21 June 2015, 18:00:14 »
Quote from: Vaun on Sun, 21 June 2015, 12:53:53
But are those the final plates? That would make me a sad panda as they are very restricted. But then again I don't see any mounting holes either so are they just a prototype?

No, it is not even close to the final revision.

Quote from: lolpes on Sun, 21 June 2015, 15:20:18
No mounting holes for the plate? :/

I mean it's a prototype plate just to confirm the layout. The final plate will obviously have mounting holes....
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 21 June 2015, 18:10:04 »
Quote from: doodersbrother on Sat, 20 June 2015, 19:13:37
Plates came!

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Damn son. That is a beautiful looking board, color me interested when a buy gets started!
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 03:01:41 »
Are you still considering changes to the layout? Was thinking that if you offer more choices in terms of layout you could spark even bigger interest, like having it as customizable as the Lightsaver.
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #86 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 05:37:36 »
I guess people will happy to see the plate support such layout, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #87 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 06:14:10 »
Quote from: simonyunhe on Thu, 25 June 2015, 05:37:36
I guess people will happy to see the plate support such layout, correct me if I'm wrong.
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except for the numpad bottom row, but from the OP:
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Instead of splitting up the 2u "0" key into two 1u keys for arrow keys, we decided to move the arrow keys up one row to make sure it retains a standard bottom row for keyset compatibility.
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 26 June 2015, 06:36:18 »
Numpad on left = bought. Good luck with this.
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« Reply #89 on: Fri, 26 June 2015, 06:42:08 »
Quote from: stoic-lemon on Fri, 26 June 2015, 06:36:18
Numpad on left = bought. Good luck with this.
Then start saving your money for the TK78-L. ;)
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #90 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 10:55:44 »
Any updata?
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #91 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 11:39:13 »
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Any updata?
PCB is going to the 5th revision, as we discover errors, make corrections, add/remove features and make modifications due to other facts not electronics-related, like mounting slots positions.

This week is being quite difficult for me: I design only on my spare time, and my daily job is quite busy at the beginning of each month. Add to that a recent case of sleep dysfunction. Work is going slower than I'd like. :(
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #92 on: Sat, 04 July 2015, 09:54:52 »
Quote from: VinnyCordeiro on Fri, 03 July 2015, 11:39:13
Quote from: simonyunhe on Fri, 03 July 2015, 10:55:44
Any updata?
PCB is going to the 5th revision, as we discover errors, make corrections, add/remove features and make modifications due to other facts not electronics-related, like mounting slots positions.

This week is being quite difficult for me: I design only on my spare time, and my daily job is quite busy at the beginning of each month. Add to that a recent case of sleep dysfunction. Work is going slower than I'd like. :(
Thanks for the hard work! Take your time. Looking froward to see the finished keyboard.
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #93 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 16:13:35 »
Another quick update. Plate was finalized.


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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #94 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 17:43:12 »
Looking good! But won't return require PCB mounted stabs?
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #95 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 17:51:05 »
Quote from: Vaun on Wed, 08 July 2015, 17:43:12
Looking good! But won't return require PCB mounted stabs?
Yes, that's right. Universal plates have this side effect, but it is the price you pay when trying to reach a broader audience.
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #96 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 23:07:40 »
Quote from: doodersbrother on Wed, 08 July 2015, 16:13:35
Another quick update. Plate was finalized.

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Looking great, excited for this. I may make it my work keyboard.  :D
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #97 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 23:42:19 »
Some updates: the PCB prototype is already being made, just waiting the fab house to send them. Then we'll start developing a basic firmware for it.

While the PCB isn't here, I already started designing the TK78-L, the version of this keyboard with numpad at the left side. In 30 minutes it is 80% ready, I just needed to redo the guidelines and group move the keys. Just need to redo some traces, now. I think it will be possible to use the same firmware on both keyboards, but cases will not be interchangeable.
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #98 on: Thu, 09 July 2015, 03:25:47 »
I'm so very hyped for this. Dare I say...end game keyboard?



Who am I kidding? :D
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Re: [IC] The TK78, a custom 78 Key 60% + numpad keyboard
« Reply #99 on: Thu, 09 July 2015, 23:52:47 »
Very interested!
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