[GB] Lumberjack PCB R2 - Extras avail

[peej]

Through-hole 5x12 ortholinear PCB for 60% tray mount case

Hello Geekhack,

The Lumberjack is back for a round 2. The open source, through hole, built it yourself, 60% ortholinear PCB kit is back.

* Ortholinear PCB for 60% cases
* Designed to be easy to build with minimal soldering experience.
* All through-hole components, no SMD soldering required.
* Get that visible component aesthetic in a standard 60% case.
* 5x12 (split Preonic) layout, full grid or 2x2u spacebars.
* Supports both USB Mini and USB-C (both connectors in kit).
* Supports MX, Choc v1, and Alps switches.
* The shape of the PCB will have cutouts to make it Bakeneko 60 compatible (no JST socket in kit).
* FR4 switch plate (black).
* €22EUR + shipping from EU



More info: https://github.com/peej/lumberjack-keyboard
Geekhack IC thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115664.0
Group Buy form: https://forms.gle/7LjG9hPLcS16DDDS9

Group Buy details:

* Group Buy open until Saturday 19th Feb
* Paypal invoices will be sent after that date
* Kit production time expected to take 6 weeks after all invoices are paid
* Choice of 7 PCB colours
* Microcontroller will be pre-flashed by myself with a bootloader and VIA compatible QMK firmware
* Kits will be shipped in a padded envelope by priority mail without tracking via PostNL from The Netherlands
* Kits will be shipped in small batches as they are completed in the order that invoices are paid
* Delivery times are expected to be long due to Covid
* Detailed build guide: https://github.com/peej/lumberjack-keyboard/blob/master/guide.md
* All new wood themed soldermask on the underside



Group Buy closed, thanks for your support

Thanks for your support!
Any questions, drop 'em below.

[HoffmanMyster]

Approved

[ravenousrhino]

I was not ready for that new silkscreen.

[bloodparticle]

  Done!

[splodeybaloney]

Email received and form filled, let’s goooo

[YoungTerror]

Missed the last round. For sure jumped in for 2 this time. Thank you for running this again.

[AlexLimPage]

I'm getting "Internal Error" would you please look at GB form?

[splodeybaloney]

I feel silly for this now but is there a way to go back and verify/possibly change my submission? I filled the form kind of hurriedly while I was at work and would have checked the option for a blue PCB as well. Only checked the preferred color and didn't read enough about meeting MOQs and things, if purple is unpopular enough I'd still prefer blue as a possibility over black.

[Sup]

is the Q key now south facing instead of north facing?

[peej]

I'm getting "Internal Error" would you please look at GB form?

It's a Google form, so it should "just work". Maybe it was a glitch in the matrix. Here's a shortened link in case that was causing you issues: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeLbOGQkefjlx9p6e2UTpqpeGzJtKQpQsDzwd0T9rE-uiowkQ/viewform

I feel silly for this now but is there a way to go back and verify/possibly change my submission? I filled the form kind of hurriedly while I was at work and would have checked the option for a blue PCB as well. Only checked the preferred color and didn't read enough about meeting MOQs and things, if purple is unpopular enough I'd still prefer blue as a possibility over black.

Don't worry, purple is going to make it. I should have just expected all colours to make it and not bothered with the multiple choice.

is the Q key now south facing instead of north facing?

The footprint for the Q supports both north and south facing now so you can choose which way around you'd like it depending on your case and preference.

[tunket]

Just checking, if I order multiple via multiple google forms, will they ship together or separately?

[PGleo86]

In for one of these. Never soldered a keyboard before, hopefully it's not too hard! This will be the project that finally gets me to harvest the switches from the dead Alps board I've got in the basement 

[peej]

Just checking, if I order multiple via multiple google forms, will they ship together or separately?

They will be bundled together. If you order 2 kits you'll only need to pay one set of postage, 3 or more kits and the postage will increase because of the increase in weight.

[lazaret]

Awesome looking kit, and great price! I was looking forward to trying an ortho board.

Would millmaxing interfere with assembly?

[ravenousrhino]

I millmaxed my R1 lumberjacks with 0305's and there was no problem.

[puddingfarmer]

In for one of these. Never soldered a keyboard before, hopefully it's not too hard! This will be the project that finally gets me to harvest the switches from the dead Alps board I've got in the basement 

It's not!! Watch a couple videos and then you're off to the races. It's also a ton of fun. Good luck!

[peej]

We're half way through the Group Buy, just one week left.

Thanks to the 143 people who have already ordered a kit, you are the best!

The GB form will be closed next Saturday and invoices will be sent soon after.

[panka]

nvm, i figured it out

[hkhawk]

So I would just need to purchase and solder on a JST socket to try this in a Bakeneko 60?

[peej]

So I would just need to purchase and solder on a JST socket to try this in a Bakeneko 60?

Yes that's correct, although the cutouts on the PCB haven't been tested, they are as per the open source Bakeneko PCB outline and the Cannon Keys Bakeneko alternative support locations.

There is even a pad for a through hole JST connector if you can find one.

[HappyB0T]

Ordered 2 via the form. Labeled my orders as 1of2 2of2 but can't DM discord if we are not in a server together. GB is incredible!

[peej]

Thanks to everyone's support, the GB form is now closed.

We have over 200 kits ordered!

Expect Paypal invoices to pop-up in your inboxes over the next few days. If anything is incorrect in the invoice, let me know as soon as possible.

Once all invoices are paid, ordering of PCBs and components can commence.

Expect updates in this thread as things progress.

[peej]

Invoice should now all be sent. If you expected one and didn't receive it or I made a mistake in your invoice (incorrect PCB colour or plate type), let me know.

[krisst]

Invoice should now all be sent. If you expected one and didn't receive it or I made a mistake in your invoice (incorrect PCB colour or plate type), let me know.

Hi, I ordered one but did not receive any invoice. Unable to find your discord name, so going to just post it here to let you know. Hopefully you see this msg before its too late. Will try to pm you my order details on geekhack.

[Tinoo46]

Hey can you give some contact information about you. I would like to contact you. I paid the PayPal invoice few days ago but today I have gotten cancelation of the order.

[peej]

Hey can you give some contact information about you. I would like to contact you. I paid the PayPal invoice few days ago but today I have gotten cancelation of the order.

You should be able to email reply to the invoice from Paypal. I had some issues with Paypal double sending some invoices today and had to cancel a few duplicates, so you may have been caught up in that.

[peej]

Quick update.

* Most invoices have been paid, thank you everyone.
* PCBs and plates have been ordered and are in manufacturing.
* Components and hardware have been ordered.
* Component covers have been ordered from the laser cutter and should arrive next week.
* Flashing of MCUs and packaging of components has begun.

[ravenousrhino]

Can you give us stats on what the orders were like for the different colors? just for fun

[peej]

Can you give us stats on what the orders were like for the different colors? just for fun

Sure, these are the kit numbers by colour:

Code: [Select]

Black 71
White 50
Red 11
Blue 30
Yellow 34
Green 11
Purple 26

[peej]

Quick update.

* Received word from JLCPCB today that manufacturing is complete and the PCBs have been shipped out today.
* The acrylic covers arrived from the laser cutter yesterday.
* Kits are starting to be put together, I've probably got 70 kits done, so as soon as the PCBs arrive and I get them QC'd I can start shipping the first orders.

[HammerDie]

Good news. Thank you for your work. I can't wait to get my new Lumberjack.

Sent from actual Lumberjack  )

[peej]

Not much to update:

* PCBs and plates should be arriving Friday this coming week
* The rest of the (hastily purchased before they vanished from stock) Atmega328p's arrived this week, programming has begun.

My Ciel arrived last week and I test fitted the PCB for the Bakeneko cutouts:



During this process I noticed that the Cannon Keys Bakeneko60 has differently positioned mount points than the open source (v3) Bakeneko that I based my cutouts on, so the PCB is not going to work in that case. If you have joined the buy specifically to use the Lumberjack in a Cannon Keys Bakeneko60 case, give me a shout and we'll see if we can work something out.

[peej]

A quick update to let you know that the PCBs arrived yesterday, 2 days ahead of JLCPCB/DHL's shipping estimation. I have to unpack and QC everything, but initial eyes seem to show that everything is in order.

This means that all kit parts are now with me. I hope to start packing and shipping orders next week.

I will share a Google sheet here which will show the state of each order so you'll know when you should expect to receive yours.

[peej]

Big update.



As mentioned, PCBs and plates have arrived from JLCPCB.



Everything is now unpacked. Everything looks good, a great job by JLCPCB compared to last round where we have some soldermask issues. I am QCing PCBs as I'm packing them, so there might still be some issues I haven't seen as yet, but first impressions are excellent.



So packaging and postage has started. To set expectations, I have 200 kits to pack and send and I can't do them all in one go, so they will dribble out over the next month or so. I am hoping to do 5 kits a day (30 a week) but we'll see, hopefully it'll go faster.

If you want to know when I'll get to your order or see how I'm doing, here's a sheet which will update as orders are packaged and sent. Just search for your invoice number: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ivnjUX_J6tSaAcm1j_Cgl3RJ8zpNYjUJ4vop6tDr6ro/edit?usp=sharing

[tacahiroy]

Great to hear that.
Can I get one more set if you have some extras?

[TheWonderBubble]

Forgot to check geekhack for a while and missed this  In for extras if any happen, if not I'm still glad to see it happened!

[peej]

Forgot to check geekhack for a while and missed this  In for extras if any happen, if not I'm still glad to see it happened!

There will hopefully be some extras, I won't know until all the GB orders are shipped. The main limiting factor is MCUs as they have basically become unavailable in the last month. I will post here when they are available or you can join the mailing list http://eepurl.com/hyPSt9

[TheWonderBubble]

Forgot to check geekhack for a while and missed this  In for extras if any happen, if not I'm still glad to see it happened!

There will hopefully be some extras, I won't know until all the GB orders are shipped. The main limiting factor is MCUs as they have basically become unavailable in the last month. I will post here when they are available or you can join the mailing list http://eepurl.com/hyPSt9

Thanks! Looks like I'm still on there from R1, I just really want to try gasket mounting one. I'll be sure to keep an eye out this time!

[granola bar enthusiast]

to be fully honest i know little to nothing about ortholinear layout and I will never go within 15 feet of a keyboard using one but I am starting to wonder why you see so many tray mounted ortho boards despite there being so many different options, is it just the PCB design and just how its more difficult to implement gaskets or is it just people preferring tray/burger mount?

[Mr Chrome]

Damn, I wish this PCB was limited in-stock ;-;

I am starting to wonder why you see so many tray mounted ortho boards despite there being so many different options, is it just the PCB design and just how its more difficult to implement gaskets or is it just people preferring tray/burger mount?

Far as I can tell, it’s just because tray mount is the ‘standard’ 60% with Poker screw holes. Since ortho is a niche and some people just want to try it out, being able to pop the PCB in a Tofu or similar starter case without committing is a nice option. With the (relative) availability of the Bakeneko we should see some variety, but getting a tray-mount case is still the best way to try out different PCBs while being able to get an easy replacement if anything happens.

[fpazos]

Damn, I wish this PCB was limited in-stock ;-;

I am starting to wonder why you see so many tray mounted ortho boards despite there being so many different options, is it just the PCB design and just how its more difficult to implement gaskets or is it just people preferring tray/burger mount?

Far as I can tell, it’s just because tray mount is the ‘standard’ 60% with Poker screw holes. Since ortho is a niche and some people just want to try it out, being able to pop the PCB in a Tofu or similar starter case without committing is a nice option. With the (relative) availability of the Bakeneko we should see some variety, but getting a tray-mount case is still the best way to try out different PCBs while being able to get an easy replacement if anything happens.

Also, I believe that in the ortho community everyone goes very strongly for his own preferences (30%, 40%, 50%, split, dactyls, monoblock, vertical staggered, even it is the strongest community in building and design from scratch). That's why you see so few group buys for high end ortho keyboards, for example gaskets, as very few people are willing to go outside their preferences.

[netmonk]

Helo is there some leftover kit to be sold ?
I want to avoid the assle to roder pcb on jlpcb and get all part from different website

[bloodparticle]

Here for the leftovers kit too!
I failed soildering the usb-c (f**k... why didn't I opt for usb mini, it was easier... it was not the first time with usb-c but this went really wrong, and the many times I redid, the worse it got).
 

[peej]

Helo is there some leftover kit to be sold ?
I want to avoid the assle to roder pcb on jlpcb and get all part from different website

There will be some extras, not sure how many at this time. Once all of the GB orders have been fulfilled and any issues solved, I will see how many extra kits are left over. It could be a couple of months, if not more.

Here for the leftovers kit too!
I failed soildering the usb-c (f**k... why didn't I opt for usb mini, it was easier... it was not the first time with usb-c but this went really wrong, and the many times I redid, the worse it got).
 

That sucks, those USB-Cs are not easy, even when you've done them in the past they can still surprise and bite you. I'm pretty sure I'll have some spare PCBs without component kits, I'm sure I can help you out when we're sorting out extras.

[peej]

With kits starting to arrive in people's mailboxes, some have suggested that a Discord might be a useful place for people to get help with building and generally chat about all things Lumberjack. If this is something you might find useful, please feel free to join https://discord.gg/cQ9EXqQmpE

[netmonk]

If anyone interested im going to order some pcb (jlpcb or other).
Peej also gaves me a BOM more structured for mouser or digikey so i can make some kit.

Im located in Europe i need to know how many pcb should i order

[skurvi]

Here for the leftovers kit too!
I failed soildering the usb-c (f**k... why didn't I opt for usb mini, it was easier... it was not the first time with usb-c but this went really wrong, and the many times I redid, the worse it got).
 

Yeah same here. Got a bridge, tried to fix it and it got worse and worse until it was destroyed

[gipetto]

I don't know if you're aware but a while back i added the atmega328 to qmk, which is binary compatible with the atmega328p. i think i wasn't able to get make flash to work due to it being beyond my skill level but it does compile like the 328p and load over isp. it might be an easier part to source.

[towhatend]

Got my Lumberjack yesterday and today I did put it together. Thank you for organized this. USB type C is always funny to solder. 

[peej]

Hi everyone, sorry for the delay but the form is finally up for Lumberjack kit extras https://forms.gle/Ya3Szu45s5HwsAqM9

If you've been hanging out for extra kits, sorry for the delay but I finally had time to get things organised.

Its first come first served but hopefully there'll be enough kits for everyone who wants one.

If you just need/want a PCB or other parts cos something went wrong with your build, fill out the form and let me know.

Happy Friday.