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Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:14:43 »
Available through our Originative web-store.

http://www.originativeco.com/products/lube-kit

Please be nice about the picture :)


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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:15:48 »
Sweet :)

You're really becoming a one stop shop now!
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:17:21 »
Hey sherry, You should also say that you can mix the two lubes.

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:18:31 »
Cool, I'll be needing more lube in the future.. :cool:

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:18:40 »
Sweet :)

You're really becoming a one stop shop now!

I have been wanting to get these.  I wanted everything you need to build a keyboard including keycaps as we do sell cusotm keyboards.

We are just missing a few more things like Cherry and Costar stabilizers!

Hey sherry, You should also say that you can mix the two lubes.

The lubes are already pre-mixed.

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:20:50 »
FIANLLY!!!!

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:22:22 »
Hey sherry, You should also say that you can mix the two lubes.

The lubes are already pre-mixed.

That works haha

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:24:24 »
So how do these compare to what mkawa was selling?

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:25:11 »
So how do these compare to what mkawa was selling?

I can buy one and compare for you haha.. :p

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:26:17 »
Well I was meaning more like contents, etc. Is it the same lube?

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:31:45 »
Well I was meaning more like contents, etc. Is it the same lube?

Basically, the previous package was 2 separate items: oil and lubrication.  Now, mkawa came up with a recipe to mix them.   It feels like youre typing on a cloud of clouds.

It works real well on blacks, clears, and reds.  (Thick for clears and thin for blacks and reds)

Also previously, mkawa suggested people to mix the oil and lubrication, and people can mix according to how they like it.  It's all premixed now which makes it a lot easier.

We are just trying to be your one-stop shop for a BYOKBD store.  The shipping was inefficient previously, but it should be a lot better now for people who are looking to buy switches, stickers, or springs.
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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:39:07 »
Cool! Thanks for the info!

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 20:43:36 »
Is it possible to get an idea of how much stock you have so I know how fast I need to purchase these kits before they sell out? :)
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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 24 November 2013, 12:45:02 »
So I would be buying this for mx clears and I was wondering, I would need the thick lube obviously. But as far as what I should lube with this, can I do the sliders and springs both, or should this (thick) not be used on springs? Thanks :)

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 24 November 2013, 14:57:29 »
Might be a dumb question, how do we lube the switches ? Is there instructions to do so ?
I'm planning to get some to lube my switches.
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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:01:00 »
Might be a dumb question, how do we lube the switches ? Is there instructions to do so ?
I'm planning to get some to lube my switches.
Credit to Whitefiredragon for these informative vids!
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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 24 November 2013, 15:17:40 »
Is this a good mix for topre sliders?

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:19:25 »
Is this a good mix for topre sliders?

I think we might need ming's answer.  I will ask him.  I think he lubed his realforce.

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 26 November 2013, 14:21:14 »
Might be a dumb question, how do we lube the switches ? Is there instructions to do so ?
I'm planning to get some to lube my switches.
Credit to Whitefiredragon for these informative vids!

This thread might also be helpful as well as this guide.

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 26 November 2013, 17:21:32 »
Is this a good mix for topre sliders?

I think we might need ming's answer.  I will ask him.  I think he lubed his realforce.

Thanks!

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 26 November 2013, 17:25:26 »
Is this a good mix for topre sliders?

I think we might need ming's answer.  I will ask him.  I think he lubed his realforce.

I used thick on my hhkb today.

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 26 November 2013, 20:09:21 »
Is this a good mix for topre sliders?

I think we might need ming's answer.  I will ask him.  I think he lubed his realforce.

I used thick on my hhkb today.

How did it go?  Did you change the weight on it?

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 26 November 2013, 23:45:21 »
Is this a good mix for topre sliders?

I think we might need ming's answer.  I will ask him.  I think he lubed his realforce.

I used thick on my hhkb today.

How did it go?  Did you change the weight on it?

Well along with lube, I also added dental bands and 55g domes, overall I like it.

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 26 November 2013, 23:56:26 »
Is this a good mix for topre sliders?

I think we might need ming's answer.  I will ask him.  I think he lubed his realforce.

I used thick on my hhkb today.

How did it go?  Did you change the weight on it?

Well along with lube, I also added dental bands and 55g domes, overall I like it.

sweet dude ;p the 55 feels better?

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 00:03:05 »
Is this a good mix for topre sliders?

I think we might need ming's answer.  I will ask him.  I think he lubed his realforce.

I used thick on my hhkb today.

How did it go?  Did you change the weight on it?

Well along with lube, I also added dental bands and 55g domes, overall I like it.

sweet dude ;p the 55 feels better?

It's really hard to say since I did the other mods but overall I like it. Will be able to tell more next week when I get back to work.

But do recommend the lube kits to anyone interested in lube, very well packaged and comes with multiple sizes of syringe tips etc.

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 12:31:34 »
Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 13:02:00 »
Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?
A small paintbrush

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 13:16:32 »
Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?
A small paintbrush

I'll try that, the one that came with it was a little unweildy

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 13:24:08 »
Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?
A small paintbrush

I'll try that, the one that came with it was a little unweildy

You might try a q-tip

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 13:26:06 »
Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?
A small paintbrush

I'll try that, the one that came with it was a little unweildy

You might try a q-tip

Q tip's nice to lube the springs, but for:


on the inside its hell

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 13:33:44 »
Can either of these lubes be used on the springs?

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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 17:45:03 »
Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?

Just curious how in the world did you spill the lube all over your keyboard?

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 18:06:29 »
Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?

Just curious how in the world did you spill the lube all over your keyboard?

First time I spilled it, I losened the cap, forgot it was only loosened, tried to squirt some out, applied force, and the tip and a lot of lube spilled onto the board.
Second time, I got the head on, but when I went to squeeze, I couldnt see when it came out so a bunch spilled

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 18:11:46 »
Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?

Just curious how in the world did you spill the lube all over your keyboard?

First time I spilled it, I losened the cap, forgot it was only loosened, tried to squirt some out, applied force, and the tip and a lot of lube spilled onto the board.
Second time, I got the head on, but when I went to squeeze, I couldnt see when it came out so a bunch spilled

Were you using thick or thin?

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 18:14:51 »
Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?

Just curious how in the world did you spill the lube all over your keyboard?

First time I spilled it, I losened the cap, forgot it was only loosened, tried to squirt some out, applied force, and the tip and a lot of lube spilled onto the board.
Second time, I got the head on, but when I went to squeeze, I couldnt see when it came out so a bunch spilled

Were you using thick or thin?

thick

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« Reply #35 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 18:20:41 »
Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?

Just curious how in the world did you spill the lube all over your keyboard?

First time I spilled it, I losened the cap, forgot it was only loosened, tried to squirt some out, applied force, and the tip and a lot of lube spilled onto the board.
Second time, I got the head on, but when I went to squeeze, I couldnt see when it came out so a bunch spilled

Were you using thick or thin?

thick

So did you end up using it all?

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 18:23:27 »
Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?

Just curious how in the world did you spill the lube all over your keyboard?

First time I spilled it, I losened the cap, forgot it was only loosened, tried to squirt some out, applied force, and the tip and a lot of lube spilled onto the board.
Second time, I got the head on, but when I went to squeeze, I couldnt see when it came out so a bunch spilled

Were you using thick or thin?

thick

So did you end up using it all?

not yet. Opened it up to lube just the springs and some stabs. Got through a set of stabs and 2 switches. My binder clip switch opener decided to not work after a couple switches on my pcb mounted g80 so I didn't get to lube anything except for the spacebar.

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 28 November 2013, 01:10:06 »
Can either of these lubes be used on the springs?

These are meant for springs.  We have not really tried these on stabilizers yet.

Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?

Just curious how in the world did you spill the lube all over your keyboard?

First time I spilled it, I losened the cap, forgot it was only loosened, tried to squirt some out, applied force, and the tip and a lot of lube spilled onto the board.
Second time, I got the head on, but when I went to squeeze, I couldnt see when it came out so a bunch spilled

Were you using thick or thin?

thick

So did you end up using it all?

not yet. Opened it up to lube just the springs and some stabs. Got through a set of stabs and 2 switches. My binder clip switch opener decided to not work after a couple switches on my pcb mounted g80 so I didn't get to lube anything except for the spacebar.

Pacifist, was the spillage due to the packaging?  It does not seem like it, right?

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 28 November 2013, 01:15:25 »
Can either of these lubes be used on the springs?

These are meant for springs.  We have not really tried these on stabilizers yet.
So I could get the thick lube and lube the springs and sliders on mx clears and be good? Thanks for the help :)

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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 28 November 2013, 01:18:22 »
Can either of these lubes be used on the springs?

These are meant for springs.  We have not really tried these on stabilizers yet.
So I could get the thick lube and lube the springs and sliders on mx clears and be good? Thanks for the help :)

You will be extremely satisfied.

I lied, your fingers will be extremely satisfied.

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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 28 November 2013, 01:26:54 »
Can either of these lubes be used on the springs?

These are meant for springs.  We have not really tried these on stabilizers yet.

Finally opened my lube kit, and I spilled it all over the board  :p

cleaned it up tho, and its really nice.

the tools are nice, but do you have anything to get inside of the stem where it meets the spring?

Just curious how in the world did you spill the lube all over your keyboard?

First time I spilled it, I losened the cap, forgot it was only loosened, tried to squirt some out, applied force, and the tip and a lot of lube spilled onto the board.
Second time, I got the head on, but when I went to squeeze, I couldnt see when it came out so a bunch spilled

Were you using thick or thin?

thick

So did you end up using it all?

not yet. Opened it up to lube just the springs and some stabs. Got through a set of stabs and 2 switches. My binder clip switch opener decided to not work after a couple switches on my pcb mounted g80 so I didn't get to lube anything except for the spacebar.

Pacifist, was the spillage due to the packaging?  It does not seem like it, right?

its because im clumsy af

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:14:24 »
Oops, I was a bit slow  :-X When will more thick lube be in stock?

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 19:54:17 »
Oops, I was a bit slow  :-X When will more thick lube be in stock?

We just requested more.  They should be on their way.

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« Reply #43 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 21:36:49 »
Oops, I was a bit slow  :-X When will more thick lube be in stock?

We just requested more.  They should be on their way.
Yay! :D

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« Reply #44 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 22:37:50 »
I'm a noob I thought thin was for sliders and thick was for stabilizers? Thanks

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Re: Lube Kit (OG x GH)
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 00:33:07 »
I'm a noob I thought thin was for sliders and thick was for stabilizers? Thanks

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Thick lube is made for tactile switches where as thin lube is made for linear switches.

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« Reply #46 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 00:34:50 »
I'm a noob I thought thin was for sliders and thick was for stabilizers? Thanks

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Thick lube is made for tactile switches where as thin lube is made for linear switches.

So either would work w topre then?

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« Reply #47 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 01:23:07 »
I'm a noob I thought thin was for sliders and thick was for stabilizers? Thanks

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Thick lube is made for tactile switches where as thin lube is made for linear switches.

So either would work w topre then?

Yeah, either works.  Mkawa please chime in!  He tested them.  I'll send him a message.

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« Reply #48 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 01:50:51 »
I'm a noob I thought thin was for sliders and thick was for stabilizers? Thanks

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Thick lube is made for tactile switches where as thin lube is made for linear switches.

So either would work w topre then?

Yeah, either works.  Mkawa please chime in!  He tested them.  I'll send him a message.

Thank you! I think I read in another post he recommended thick.

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« Reply #49 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 02:05:12 »
FOR MX SWITCHES:

i would not lube where the spring touches the cap of the stem. there is no wear there. the spring also does not touch the stem in a typical actuation, i wouldn't bother with that either. in fact, the only place i recommend lub is the either the slider or the housing side of the points at which the slider touches the housing. for linear switches, i recommend lubricating the front of the slider as well, the tendrils that actuate the gold crosspoints (they are lubed from the factory but with a silicone lube that just does not last long enough or provide the lubridicity for really smooth actuation), and the arc-face of a linear switch. i do not recommend lube anywhere else in an MX switch.

FOR TOPRE SWITCHES:

for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.

there is one more place to lube a topre switch, but it must be done BEFORE the previous step. using a very thin lube and a small gauge needle, insert several drops into the slider. the goal is to get the lube to migrate to the PCB and elastomers. the reason to do this is to increase the seal between the elastomer bottom faces and the PCB. in my testing i've seen a slight difference between the elastomer membrane of a 55g topre switch and an unlubricated elastomer. it's very slight, but the tactile bump gets a little bit of a boost from the improved seal between the elastomer edges and the pcb.

the sliders make the most dramatic difference in a topre switch. for those, only thick formula makes any difference at all, and again, it increases the force required to actuate the switch but makes that force curve smoother. if you don't want that, don't lube your topre switches. i haven't found any other way to affect the action of a topre switch with lubricant.

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