Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sun, 16 February 2020, 08:49:59
This is an early interest check for a magnet mounted and gasket combo 65%. The board is a blocked 65% with stylish base, and chunky bezels. Designed to look sleek and unique, with a seamless side profile, the board is as elegant as she is functional.
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Design
Using the standard 65% layout, and inspired by large rounded bezels, the design puts aesthetic alongside function. This layout has long been popular within the community, and for good reason. With support for all usual layouts on the PCB (incl ISO, split or full left shift / right shift / backspace, and a few variations on the bottom row) you can be sure to be able to build this board to the layout of your choice. Please note - the top blocker area is till a work in progress. There is a version with or without it as currently stands.
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Updates
Updates will be posted here and on my discord: https://discord.gg/qm944aC
You should also check out Flex's discord here: https://discord.gg/KRAuQRc
MagLev & Gasket Mounting
The board features a unique mounting system, comprising of both magnetic levitation for a cushioned feel, and a top mount gasket to isolate the plate from the case. This reduces ping and noise transference from the plate to the case; and will highlight the true sound of the switches and caps without detracting from the maglev experience.
This design requires a firmer plate material, due to the way the typing feel is accentuated by the forces applied to the magnetic repulsion when typing. As such we will default to Carbon Fibre, as it is non magnetic and rigid, whilst offering an even feel. Even so, due to the unique interplay with the magnets, the typing experience is cushioned across the board.
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Naming
The first magnets were not invented, but rather were found from a naturally occurring mineral called magnetite. The mineral magnetite is an iron oxide that is easily magnetized when it forms. Magnetite is also known as Lodestone.
Prototypes
A prototype of the current iteration of design is on order and will be used as a test bed to determine the correct orientation and volume of magnets required. Through rapid prototyping we have experimented with multiple magnet mounting solutions to test the forces applied and required to keep an interesting typing feel.
Once the final Prototype is here we will share details of the build and videos of the experience you can expect.
Proof of Concept
We have completed multiple iterations of the board, and some working examples of how the mounting will work. Whilst there is too many iterations to share in the IC, I thought it would be useful for you to Flex's original POC with mounting two boards on a rigid, adjustable plane, and the strength of the magnets intended for use.
These invaluable experiments and multiple iterations have really shaped the final design.
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Specification
- 2piece case - Aluminium
- Plate - Carbon Fibre (fixed ISO and ANSI variants)
- PCB - USB C and QMK Compatible (ESD protected)
- Breakout Daughterboard
- 7 degree Angle
- Colours TBC
- Gasket; 1.5mm Nitrile Rubber
Group-Buy Details
Whilst we would like to take this product to Group Buy, we are dependent on the prototypes success. We have a good level of confidence, and believe in the potential of this board to deliver a new and innovative solution to the market.
Initially it would likely be a small 50 unit run post the prototype completion; with the potential for larger runs later if demand is there. No dates are currently planned for this; however the aspirational plan is that we would be looking at April for the first run.
Next Steps
- More renders
- Receive Prototype
- Build and test Prototype
- Share results
- Arrange GB pending prototype success
Render Gallery
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Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sun, 16 February 2020, 09:13:17
Wow, crazy ideal I really hope works out! Not a huge fan of the wide bezels, but that is something I can easily overlook because of the novel mounting system you guys are trying to put into place here. GL with everything moving forward!
Yeah we needed the bezels to hold the magnets in place and be the right size and thin enough to support as needed - we actually considered many types of magnet and positions before settling on this one
I’ve actually been thinking of a maglev keyboard design for the last few months. Glad to see I’m not the only one to think of it lol. Looks awesome!!
Awesome!! I've been toying with this since teh J-01 with the mag mounted pen rail. It took Flex to make the design work
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sun, 16 February 2020, 09:14:13
Like the design, not sure about the big bezel and iso layout ;D
It'll support ANSI!!! :p
The bezels are there for the magnets mainly
Post by: OmniSzron on Sun, 16 February 2020, 09:21:47
My only question here would be whether this MagLev implementation is susceptible to de-magnetization over time. Other MagLev applications I know of (japanese trains and computer fans) all use electromagnets to achieve suspension (that's why they're called EMS - Electromagnetic Suspension). This (I assume) uses permanent magnets, which can lose miniscule amounts of magnetism over time and can be completely demagnetized if exposed to a magnetic field of a reversed polarity. Temperature is also a factor in retaining magnetic properties. Is this something that was considered during the design process?
Post by: Surefoot on Sun, 16 February 2020, 09:23:02
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Post by: Senor Coconut on Sun, 16 February 2020, 09:25:57
You might need to write a few lines addressing the unmagnetizing possibilities and conditions?
Post by: kjang on Sun, 16 February 2020, 09:34:34
What's the reason for not having an upper-right key? Would love a standard layout or something special to go in that corner.
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Post by: lolafineday on Sun, 16 February 2020, 09:40:07
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Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 16 February 2020, 09:44:59
Between this and the Evolv I am very impressed with the innovation in the community this year. Also, the design is gorgeous. That bottom piece is beautiful and the thick bezels look stunning. Love the seamless frame, too.Under normal conditions neodymium magnets lose 1% force over 10 years. Unless as you stated some weird science happens. They should be fine. There are also "permanent" magnets, though expensive.
My only question here would be whether this MagLev implementation is susceptible to de-magnetization over time. Other MagLev applications I know of (japanese trains and computer fans) all use electromagnets to achieve suspension (that's why they're called EMS - Electromagnetic Suspension). This (I assume) uses permanent magnets, which can lose miniscule amounts of magnetism over time and can be completely demagnetized if exposed to a magnetic field of a reversed polarity. Temperature is also a factor in retaining magnetic properties. Is this something that was considered during the design process?
Post by: godofdeath on Sun, 16 February 2020, 09:49:59
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Post by: hkiri on Sun, 16 February 2020, 10:00:02
Design-wise: Well...
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sun, 16 February 2020, 10:01:06
The magnets will support all the weight of the switches and keycaps?
Yes - easily.
Large Bezel + magnetic cushion + ISO = music to my ears!
You might need to write a few lines addressing the unmagnetizing possibilities and conditions?
Between this and the Evolv I am very impressed with the innovation in the community this year. Also, the design is gorgeous. That bottom piece is beautiful and the thick bezels look stunning. Love the seamless frame, too.
My only question here would be whether this MagLev implementation is susceptible to de-magnetization over time. Other MagLev applications I know of (japanese trains and computer fans) all use electromagnets to achieve suspension (that's why they're called EMS - Electromagnetic Suspension). This (I assume) uses permanent magnets, which can lose miniscule amounts of magnetism over time and can be completely demagnetized if exposed to a magnetic field of a reversed polarity. Temperature is also a factor in retaining magnetic properties. Is this something that was considered during the design process?
The Magnet lifespan was def considered. The Neodymium magnets we intend to use will only lose 1% of their repulsion force every ten years in this type of application. We will also share where the magnets can be bought from if anyone does accidentally expose their keyboard to a large electromagnet capable of damaging the mounting system.
Looks great! Those orange renders are amazing.
What's the reason for not having an upper-right key? Would love a standard layout or something special to go in that corner.
Just havent decided as yet - it was a design affectation just for the proto, but as you can see on the plate we do have a key there. This is just an early IC so will have more details post the Prototype. (personally I think we will just end up with a key there)
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sun, 16 February 2020, 10:01:49
Everything looks great. As a Mac user though, I dearly wish you'd have a 1.25u-1.25u-1.25u bottom row. 1u WK (or ⌥ for Mac) is rather unergonomic for macOS usage.
Multiple bottom rows will be avail - fear not!! I'll double check we included that on the OP as I thought we had
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sun, 16 February 2020, 10:02:55
From an innovation standpoint: Highly interested!
Design-wise: Well...
Each to their own :D
We needed the bezels to house the magnets. The base is my favourite part
Post by: nguyenhimself on Sun, 16 February 2020, 10:09:58
Looks great! Those orange renders are amazing.I'm probably the minority here, but I prefer no key there for one actually practical reason:
What's the reason for not having an upper-right key? Would love a standard layout or something special to go in that corner.
When I need to delete text, I tend to just throw my finger to the upper left for Backspace without looking.
This often backfires when I use a 65% because I sometimes hit the key to the right of Backspace instead.
A logo there would be nice too.
Post by: hkiri on Sun, 16 February 2020, 10:11:16
From an innovation standpoint: Highly interested!
Design-wise: Well...
Each to their own :D
We needed the bezels to house the magnets. The base is my favourite part
I thought something like this.
Well, the J-02 grew on me too during the weeks leading to the GB. We will see if this is also the case with Lodestone ;)
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Post by: OmniSzron on Sun, 16 February 2020, 10:15:40
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The Magnet lifespan was def considered. The Neodymium magnets we intend to use will only lose 1% of their repulsion force every ten years in this type of application. We will also share where the magnets can be bought from if anyone does accidentally expose their keyboard to a large electromagnet capable of damaging the mounting system.Great to hear. The possibility of just replacing the magnets completely alleviates any concerns I had about the mounting system. :)
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it was a design affectation just for the proto, but as you can see on the plate we do have a key there. This is just an early IC so will have more details post the Prototype. (personally I think we will just end up with a key there)Personally, I would just engrave a little symbol resembling the schematic of a magnetic field. Something similar to this:
(https://i.imgur.com/uw5Itvz.jpg)
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Post by: mrpetrov on Sun, 16 February 2020, 10:28:55
flex and jae - apart from the mounting tech, which is super cool - that base looks divine. sensual curves. definitely a she.
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PS: WKL blocker.
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Post by: Hawksmoor on Sun, 16 February 2020, 11:05:47
Could i ask what the expected front height is please?
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Post by: Flexerman on Sun, 16 February 2020, 11:46:42
Could i ask what the expected front height is please?
It comes in just under 18mm (17.89 to be exact) :thumb:
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Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 16 February 2020, 12:10:21
I believe we can start calling the aesthetic of Jae’s boards, the JaestheticTM. Looks wonderful. Can’t wait to see and hear the prototype.Jae + chunk = Junky or maybe Jaenk
Post by: Macmutant on Sun, 16 February 2020, 12:18:36
Looks great! Those orange renders are amazing.I'm probably the minority here, but I prefer no key there for one actually practical reason:
What's the reason for not having an upper-right key? Would love a standard layout or something special to go in that corner.
When I need to delete text, I tend to just throw my finger to the upper left for Backspace without looking.
This often backfires when I use a 65% because I sometimes hit the key to the right of Backspace instead.
A logo there would be nice too.
This is good point. I do the same thing. The problem for me is that I also don't like the way those corner badges look. Conflicted, but agree with you.
Post by: Macmutant on Sun, 16 February 2020, 12:24:06
Very much appreciate inclusion of ESD protection, as well as the fact that you call it out as a feature.
Post by: lolafineday on Sun, 16 February 2020, 12:25:55
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Post by: dmatx1 on Sun, 16 February 2020, 12:26:08
And of course I'm pretty curious about the typing feel of the magnetic mount.
Post by: Automata-killa on Sun, 16 February 2020, 12:32:15
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We have completed multiple iterations of the board, and some working examples of how the mounting will work. Whilst there is too many iterations to share in the IC..Could you share at least one of them? In my opinion two wooden boards in a weird perspective and in gif form isn't a great format how to show a proof of concept.
Also how do you plan to even out the force that's applied on sides and corners of the board?
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..believe in the potential of this board to deliver a new and innovative solution to the market..What's the problem with just gasket mounts, and what's problem are you trying to solve?
I don't mean to sound too negative or skeptical but I personally don't see the usefulness of magnets, though I would love to see the prototype!
Post by: lolafineday on Sun, 16 February 2020, 12:39:21
Well in my opinion this hobby is just chasing the useless and novelty. There is no real use for a gasket in a keyboard but we enjoy it. I think magnets will just be another step for us to get even cooler stuff!QuoteWe have completed multiple iterations of the board, and some working examples of how the mounting will work. Whilst there is too many iterations to share in the IC..Could you share at least one of them? In my opinion two wooden boards in a weird perspective and in gif form isn't a great format how to show a proof of concept.
Also how do you plan to even out the force that's applied on sides and corners of the board?Quote..believe in the potential of this board to deliver a new and innovative solution to the market..What's the problem with just gasket mounts, and what's problem are you trying to solve?
I don't mean to sound too negative or skeptical but I personally don't see the usefulness of magnets, though I would love to see the prototype!
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Post by: PotatoTM on Sun, 16 February 2020, 12:50:10
Post by: dRpkebs on Sun, 16 February 2020, 13:04:10
Count me in!
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 16 February 2020, 13:44:09
I was wondering when someone would bring out a magnet held plate... interested
It's fun, because I'm not actually a huge fan of magnet held cases, but magnetic floating plates? Where do I sign up!
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 16 February 2020, 13:50:18
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Normally not huge on symbols or stamps, but there's just so much history behind loadstones. They're just so important to the development of the world, honestly.
Post by: Helpingly on Sun, 16 February 2020, 14:16:10
Post by: Nostril on Sun, 16 February 2020, 14:24:19
Will different strength magnets be available as options to customize the feel, or perhaps will the magnets be a standard off-the-shelf part so that would be possible?
Also, I was curious if you had any estimate on how much force it takes to bottom the plate out? It's kinda hard to tell how hard it's being pressed in the proof of concept.
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Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sun, 16 February 2020, 17:11:54
Really cool concept looking forward to seeing the protos before I judge it. Though, I will say that having a corner blocker without any logo or anything there kinda looks weird. I would rather actually have something there, or just put a key there instead. Something about it being blank, in addition to the large bezels just seems a bit weird to me.
Blocker is likely to go tbh - if you see the plate file it has a key there.
Very interesting concept. Given how popular split backspace is on 65% boards (and in general), will this board have a split backspace option? Either in the form of a fixed plate, or as an option on the existing ANSI plate.Layout choices not fully decided as yet - but I'll def keep it in mind.
Would love to see it at a lower type angle like 3-5°.
Its 7 degrees at the min - I wouldnt want to go below 5. Any changes will be made based on the Proto
Wow, this thing is really cool!
Will different strength magnets be available as options to customize the feel, or perhaps will the magnets be a standard off-the-shelf part so that would be possible?
Also, I was curious if you had any estimate on how much force it takes to bottom the plate out? It's kinda hard to tell how hard it's being pressed in the proof of concept.
Will likely keep it as one set of magnets - pre installed. Given how easy it is to install magnets in the wrong orientation, they would be pre-fitted for convenience.
As part of the proto process we will show bottom out forces etc.
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Post by: Beerbezerker on Sun, 16 February 2020, 18:27:52
I love the idea & design though & I hope you manage to make it work on a functional plate with switches etc.
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 16 February 2020, 18:42:32
Wouldn't you need a fully loaded plate + actual typing to be a proper "proof of concept"? The weight of a piece of wood with 1 finger pressing down surely is nothing in comparison to real-world typing demo?They said they'd post stuff when the prototypes were in.
I love the idea & design though & I hope you manage to make it work on a functional plate with switches etc.
Post by: Delo on Sun, 16 February 2020, 19:53:00
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 17 February 2020, 00:46:15
I think I’m in love.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 17 February 2020, 01:43:48
nice
Post by: Riba on Mon, 17 February 2020, 01:58:46
So few options out there for few of us who like bezels.
Post by: vaf1en on Mon, 17 February 2020, 02:08:34
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Post by: Jae-3soteric on Mon, 17 February 2020, 05:34:21
I on the other hand don't really care about the magnetic mount system, but I'd get it for the design only.
So few options out there for few of us who like bezels.
Bezel Gang
Post by: thennamed on Mon, 17 February 2020, 06:05:38
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Mon, 17 February 2020, 06:55:51
What about an encoder at the top blocker?
No - the blocker will likely be removed in favour of a switch. But I wouldnt want to put a rotary encoder on this particular design
Post by: hq on Mon, 17 February 2020, 08:01:20
Too bad mechanical watches and strong magnetic fields dont mix well otherwise I would love to join.
The growing diversity is only going to grow the hobby even more! :thumb:
Post by: st0ckz on Mon, 17 February 2020, 09:00:16
Nice...
Post by: dom on Mon, 17 February 2020, 14:49:35
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 17 February 2020, 23:19:58
Love the concept and your work always seems top notch!
Too bad mechanical watches and strong magnetic fields dont mix well otherwise I would love to join.
The growing diversity is only going to grow the hobby even more! :thumb:
Doesn’t it take like a more powerful magnet to interfere with electronics though? Like an electromagnet?
Post by: hq on Tue, 18 February 2020, 03:55:04
But certain elements of the movement, e.g. the hairspring can get magnetized which results in the watch speeding up or running irregular.
For most current watches these magnets shouldnt be able to magnetize the watch, but vintage watches with worn down plating might get affected.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Tue, 18 February 2020, 04:17:38
Mechanical watches are more fragile.Love the concept and your work always seems top notch!
Too bad mechanical watches and strong magnetic fields dont mix well otherwise I would love to join.
The growing diversity is only going to grow the hobby even more! :thumb:
Doesn’t it take like a more powerful magnet to interfere with electronics though? Like an electromagnet?
Speakers' magnets are mostly fine, but it's been reported that the magnets inside laptop lids (to keep them tightly close) can stop a watch cold if it's put directly on the lid.
No problem if the watch is on your hand though.
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 18 February 2020, 04:21:53
A mechanical watch, either hand wound or automatic has no electronic parts.
But certain elements of the movement, e.g. the hairspring can get magnetized which results in the watch speeding up or running irregular.
For most current watches these magnets shouldnt be able to magnetize the watch, but vintage watches with worn down plating might get affected.
... I have to admit, I read your first post as “mechanical switches” 🙈
Thank you though this was very illuminating.
Post by: Flexerman on Tue, 18 February 2020, 13:50:48
The order for the prototype has been changed and I've done a few renders sans blocker for all the blockerphobes out there.
(https://i.imgur.com/IHnuHKn.png)(https://i.imgur.com/UJXbUFi.png)(https://i.imgur.com/9F7zaj2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/jEvYvMt.png)(https://i.imgur.com/4j7OhmB.png)(https://i.imgur.com/NZ3DJNH.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/meqMvwz.png)
I prefer it like this too, other tops have been discussed, but we need to make sure everything else is working before trying to iterate purely on the design aesthetic.
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 18 February 2020, 15:45:09
Looking forward to seeing how the prototype turns out.
Post by: Helpingly on Tue, 18 February 2020, 16:58:35
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Post by: OmniSzron on Tue, 18 February 2020, 18:29:23
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The lack of a second right-hand modifier key is a big turn-off for me, and is the main reason why I didn't jump on some notable 65% boards that I otherwise likedDitto. As an Adobe Creative Cloud user I just can't imagine having a board without the right-hand side ctrl and alt keys.
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Tue, 18 February 2020, 18:30:49
Would you consider using a more traditional 1.25–1.25–1.25–6.25–1.25–1.25 bottom row instead of 1.5–1–1.5–7–1.5? The lack of a second right-hand modifier key is a big turn-off for me, and is the main reason why I didn't jump on some notable 65% boards that I otherwise liked (Koyu springs to mind).
Most likely. It’s usually my preferred layout for 65s as well. We will have an updated set of layouts for the PCB in due course. So feedback like this is invaluable.
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Post by: cryworm on Tue, 18 February 2020, 18:37:28
Also has the effect of magnet on the PCB been analyzed? A still magnet next to the circuit I'm sure won't be a big deal, but what if the user is heavy handed and moves the plate up an down a lot during use? That moving magnetic field might induct a current into the circuit if it's near enough right?
Post by: cptbubbles on Tue, 18 February 2020, 19:26:18
Please be kind enough for some sound comparisons between Lodestone and a more typically mounted board if possible. :thumb:
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Post by: Adelscott on Wed, 19 February 2020, 12:09:31
BTW, no issue with magnets for those who wear mechanical watches ?
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Post by: Ahrimofnor on Thu, 20 February 2020, 14:29:36
What's the target plate displacement during normal typing?
Post by: Hawksmoor on Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:12:45
Could i ask what the expected front height is please?
It comes in just under 18mm (17.89 to be exact) :thumb:
Thanks a mill for the response.
Looking forward to the GB and hope I manage to snatch one.
PS: If the orange colour is made. Can I vote for it to be called Datsun Orange please :)
Post by: d00deitsnik on Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:15:01
Could i ask what the expected front height is please?
It comes in just under 18mm (17.89 to be exact) :thumb:
Thanks a mill for the response.
Looking forward to the GB and hope I manage to snatch one.
PS: If the orange colour is made. Can I vote for it to be called Datsun Orange please :)
Which sun? lololol jk. The renders kinda look like the Maserati orange to me, but I like the idea of Datsun Orange better
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Thu, 20 February 2020, 18:29:54
Could i ask what the expected front height is please?
It comes in just under 18mm (17.89 to be exact) :thumb:
Thanks a mill for the response.
Looking forward to the GB and hope I manage to snatch one.
PS: If the orange colour is made. Can I vote for it to be called Datsun Orange please :)
Which sun? lololol jk. The renders kinda look like the Maserati orange to me, but I like the idea of Datsun Orange better
He mentions to name it that because I have a Datsun Fairlady in a very close colour :D
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Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sat, 22 February 2020, 09:57:34
Looks amazing, any estimate on pricing?
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Not yet. Flex and I want to validate the prototypes first and then go from there.
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Post by: ponchofreedo on Wed, 04 March 2020, 12:07:21
Any chance you can update the discord link for updates?
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 04 March 2020, 13:33:25
This is the proper chonky boi we need!
Any chance you can update the discord link for updates?
Here is the updated link!!
https://discord.gg/qm944aC
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Post by: ponchofreedo on Wed, 04 March 2020, 13:36:25
This is the proper chonky boi we need!
Any chance you can update the discord link for updates?
Here is the updated link!!
https://discord.gg/qm944aC
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it may have actually been the discord servers being down. they were throwing some errors right around the time i tried to look at it, according to their status page
Post by: liquidsky on Thu, 05 March 2020, 08:16:38
Post by: ramnes on Fri, 13 March 2020, 20:13:25
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Fri, 13 March 2020, 20:17:48
This is extremely interesting! The only thing I really don't like is the missing key in the top right corner.
As addressed later in the thread we are experimenting with multiple top cases so there will be other options as well.
Still aiming to receive the prototypes this month
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Post by: ramnes on Fri, 13 March 2020, 20:22:02
Also, thinking about it a tad more, I'm concerned about the feeling being just like a top mount if the magnets are too powerful... Do you plan to propose different force of magnets? And how will you avoid the rattle between the plate and the housing if the plate has to move a little?
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Fri, 13 March 2020, 20:29:16
Yay, awesome!
Also, thinking about it a tad more, I'm concerned about the feeling being just like a top mount if the magnets are too powerful... Do you plan to propose different force of magnets? And how will you avoid the rattle between the plate and the housing if the plate has to move a little?
There is a gasket above the plate. There has been a lot of math done on the magnets/ load/ repulsion / typing forces to come up with what we believe is a good range. The prototypes will enable us to test those ranges and confirm what we have interpreted from the math
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Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 13 March 2020, 20:37:49
This is extremely interesting! The only thing I really don't like is the missing key in the top right corner.
As addressed later in the thread we are experimenting with multiple top cases so there will be other options as well.
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That looks fantastic
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 14 March 2020, 01:06:05
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This back case design reminds me of those Lumina LE's that we never got. :D
Post by: swangful on Sat, 14 March 2020, 01:34:43
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sat, 14 March 2020, 03:32:53
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This back case design reminds me of those Lumina LE's that we never got. :D
Ugh - the memories.... I’d kinda forgotten about just how many I was owed...
Just to be clear, 100% Tes free boards here - this is all original from Flex and I
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Post by: abrokencondom on Sat, 14 March 2020, 03:59:29
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 14 March 2020, 04:06:31
Ugh - the memories.... I’d kinda forgotten about just how many I was owed...
Just to be clear, 100% Tes free boards here - this is all original from Flex and I
Tbh I think this case back looks much nicer too.
Post by: ramnes on Sat, 14 March 2020, 04:47:14
Yay, awesome!
Also, thinking about it a tad more, I'm concerned about the feeling being just like a top mount if the magnets are too powerful... Do you plan to propose different force of magnets? And how will you avoid the rattle between the plate and the housing if the plate has to move a little?
There is a gasket above the plate. There has been a lot of math done on the magnets/ load/ repulsion / typing forces to come up with what we believe is a good range. The prototypes will enable us to test those ranges and confirm what we have interpreted from the math
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it's not the above the plate that concerns me, I read about the gasket, but rather on its sides
Post by: dommyy13 on Sat, 14 March 2020, 05:19:10
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sat, 14 March 2020, 10:17:30
Yay, awesome!
Also, thinking about it a tad more, I'm concerned about the feeling being just like a top mount if the magnets are too powerful... Do you plan to propose different force of magnets? And how will you avoid the rattle between the plate and the housing if the plate has to move a little?
There is a gasket above the plate. There has been a lot of math done on the magnets/ load/ repulsion / typing forces to come up with what we believe is a good range. The prototypes will enable us to test those ranges and confirm what we have interpreted from the math
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it's not the above the plate that concerns me, I read about the gasket, but rather on its sides
Shouldn’t be an issue with our implementation - but the proto will confirm that.
It won’t be a quiet board tho I don’t think :)
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Post by: hottrout on Sat, 14 March 2020, 13:24:38
Post by: VipermanGT2 on Thu, 19 March 2020, 05:13:35
Super excited to see the prototype, and really hope to get one of these for myself.
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Post by: thunderthighs on Thu, 19 March 2020, 06:33:49
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sat, 28 March 2020, 13:20:35
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-R52aEn-hj/?igshid=1iw1f0orstzhh
Board should be here this coming week as it’s currently sat in customs.
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Post by: jauny on Sat, 28 March 2020, 14:52:08
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Post by: roznalos on Wed, 29 April 2020, 23:35:07
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Thu, 30 April 2020, 03:18:33
Got the proto's in, and both Flex and I have used and had a play with them. We are both really excited about the way it works, but the prototypes did highlight some things with the design that we want to fix.
Right now we have a revised Proto being made to test the changes - after all, this is why we prototype! Once those are approved, Salvun will be machining the final pre-production model which is where you folks may see a Build stream or two :D
You can see some of the proto pictures here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-KX0jUn-3H/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-R52aEn-hj/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-XMp88nzuf/
As always, updates will be on my Discord: https://discord.gg/qm944aC & Flex's discord: https://discord.gg/KRAuQRc
Post by: hmmmwhatsthis on Thu, 30 April 2020, 17:33:39
Hey folks - small update.
Got the proto's in, and both Flex and I have used and had a play with them. We are both really excited about the way it works, but the prototypes did highlight some things with the design that we want to fix.
Right now we have a revised Proto being made to test the changes - after all, this is why we prototype! Once those are approved, Salvun will be machining the final pre-production model which is where you folks may see a Build stream or two :D
You can see some of the proto pictures here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-KX0jUn-3H/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-R52aEn-hj/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-XMp88nzuf/
As always, updates will be on my Discord: https://discord.gg/qm944aC & Flex's discord: https://discord.gg/KRAuQRc
Heck that orange is lovely
Post by: MajorKoos on Thu, 30 April 2020, 19:37:33
Hey folks - small update.
Got the proto's in, and both Flex and I have used and had a play with them. We are both really excited about the way it works, but the prototypes did highlight some things with the design that we want to fix.
Right now we have a revised Proto being made to test the changes - after all, this is why we prototype! Once those are approved, Salvun will be machining the final pre-production model which is where you folks may see a Build stream or two :D
You can see some of the proto pictures here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-KX0jUn-3H/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-R52aEn-hj/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-XMp88nzuf/
As always, updates will be on my Discord: https://discord.gg/qm944aC & Flex's discord: https://discord.gg/KRAuQRc
That bezel is sexy AF.
Post by: asciisii on Fri, 08 May 2020, 03:47:01
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Post by: Uryftw on Sat, 23 May 2020, 14:13:34
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Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 03 June 2020, 03:22:50
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Post by: SxM Designs on Wed, 03 June 2020, 03:31:48
Post by: jamster on Wed, 03 June 2020, 08:46:01
Post by: Sabin on Wed, 03 June 2020, 09:05:01
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 03 June 2020, 09:48:01
Do you plan to have vendors in EU?
For the first round at the very least I’ll be the only vendor. I am based in the EU.
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Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 03 June 2020, 09:48:58
Is there going to be any shielding that stops the field from extending outside the case? Whilst unlikely to be harmful to anything, it might be annoying to have random things like pen lids or paperclips stick to the casing. Overall probably just a quirk and not a big deal.
No. I will issue a small disclaimer when the GB runs to be careful with watches etc however.
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Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 03 June 2020, 09:49:37
Will there be any hot swap option?
Very unlikely - given the mounting solution I’d prefer the switches to be as secure as possible
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Post by: kimcames on Thu, 04 June 2020, 06:40:47
Post by: Sabin on Thu, 04 June 2020, 11:01:40
Post by: bobdenard on Thu, 04 June 2020, 11:08:00
man would have loved a hotswap option as i feeling like indulged in soldiering enough.. i'm now really looking for a premium with wide bezels 65% kb with hotswap :(M65-B by Rama seems to fit the bill. Might be some extras for sale in a few months.
Post by: Sabin on Sat, 06 June 2020, 16:06:47
man would have loved a hotswap option as i feeling like indulged in soldiering enough.. i'm now really looking for a premium with wide bezels 65% kb with hotswap :(M65-B by Rama seems to fit the bill. Might be some extras for sale in a few months.
Thanks. Missed out on that and u80, didn't realise they would be having another round
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sun, 14 June 2020, 09:05:27
I’ll actually be showing some of the details of lodestone off as part of my usual build stream later today (8pm uk, 3pm EST, noon PST Twitch.tv/TopClack)
Feel free to come and check it out if it interests you :)
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Post by: reaLFX on Sun, 14 June 2020, 18:56:01
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Post by: OmniSzron on Mon, 15 June 2020, 04:08:01
Post by: Primal on Mon, 15 June 2020, 05:01:20
The orange looks gorgeous
Post by: Ldar1 on Mon, 15 June 2020, 05:09:50
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Mon, 15 June 2020, 06:42:39
I would love to try this mounting system, but can't do the chunky bezels. Hopefully it will turn out good and a more traditional shaped case with a similar mounting system will come out in the future. Good luck.
Bezels are needed for the maglev system - it wouldnt work with our implementation with narrower bezels sadly
Post by: booleanjulien on Mon, 15 June 2020, 11:18:37
Post by: mrkantz on Mon, 15 June 2020, 17:33:42
Post by: Tainado on Tue, 16 June 2020, 20:45:50
Hoping to see some unusual color ...for the unusual mounting board :))
Oh and +1 Vote for WKL Top option
Post by: grundlemere on Wed, 17 June 2020, 08:12:39
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Thu, 18 June 2020, 22:26:53
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Post by: Jae-3soteric on Fri, 19 June 2020, 05:41:17
Will Salvun be doing the manufacturing of the GB?
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Salvun will be manufacturing the production version of the board. 2 Rounds of Prototypes have been completed - the latest shown on stream on Sunday just gone (Link below)
The thick bezel is what drawn me into this ! And MagLev of course !
Hoping to see some unusual color ...for the unusual mounting board :))
Oh and +1 Vote for WKL Top option
Prob not WKL - but Orange is def the 'hero' colourway to run this in, and what the protos were made in.
Very interesting mounting! Typing test when?
So I showed off the movement on the current proto build (link below), but next is to wait on sime final parts in new materials and then to do a full build stream and typing test
Last Sunday I showed off the lodestone prototype v2 on stream. you can see it here:
(timestamp is 29:25 into the stream until 45:04) Movement is shown at 32:27, 35:11, 37:11, 38:30, 39:01 and 45:00
As soon as the final parts arrive, there will be a build stream and typing test. For now the board is on its way to Flex for him to take a look, complete a full build and do some testing.
More news when we have it....
Post by: whricom on Fri, 19 June 2020, 18:14:42
I can't look away, it just has me hypnotized!
Post by: syke on Sat, 20 June 2020, 09:12:46
Post by: Retne on Sat, 20 June 2020, 23:27:07
Post by: L8T on Sat, 20 June 2020, 23:59:24
Post by: Jinho on Sun, 21 June 2020, 05:45:57
even though im not the biggest fan of thicc bezels, im in for this just for the typing experience
Post by: UMichHockey on Tue, 23 June 2020, 11:57:17
Post by: keyboardkrill on Thu, 25 June 2020, 01:59:52
Post by: ISOxSwap on Thu, 25 June 2020, 16:05:09
Post by: krikun98 on Sun, 28 June 2020, 20:27:42
Any plans for other layouts? I'm more of a 40% guy, but I really want to try this mount out.
Post by: ken.cult on Sun, 28 June 2020, 21:15:47
Post by: Balloz on Mon, 29 June 2020, 07:23:53
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 21 July 2020, 23:04:20
Post by: rikercd on Tue, 21 July 2020, 23:13:39
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 22 July 2020, 05:25:13
Hey guys. Any more updates for us?
The latest proto is in as per my last post and stream. ATM the board is with Flex for him to test as I had the board for a short while.
Right now thats a slow process as Flex is in the process of QC and shipping of his FLX Virgo board, so I'm keen to give him time and space to keep up his solid work ethic on those boards. We will get back on this as time allows.
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Wed, 22 July 2020, 08:11:17
...
Right now thats a slow process as Flex is in the process of QC and shipping of his FLX Virgo board, so I'm keen to give him time and space to keep up his solid work ethic on those boards.
...
Thanks for the update. Things had gone quiet here and on Apogee, so I was preparing to be disappointed. But there's no hurry, as long as it will still happen.
Post by: ssmanxman on Wed, 22 July 2020, 11:52:05
Post by: thestateofmay on Wed, 22 July 2020, 12:37:37
Also, I favor the design without the top right blocker. Since the bezels are super thick, a blocker on the right stands out very distinctly.
Post by: bakuretsu on Wed, 22 July 2020, 13:38:22
are the bezels super thick to accommodate the magnets?
I would love to try this mounting system, but can't do the chunky bezels. Hopefully it will turn out good and a more traditional shaped case with a similar mounting system will come out in the future. Good luck.
Bezels are needed for the maglev system - it wouldnt work with our implementation with narrower bezels sadly
:|
Post by: thestateofmay on Wed, 22 July 2020, 14:02:48
are the bezels super thick to accommodate the magnets?I would love to try this mounting system, but can't do the chunky bezels. Hopefully it will turn out good and a more traditional shaped case with a similar mounting system will come out in the future. Good luck.
Bezels are needed for the maglev system - it wouldnt work with our implementation with narrower bezels sadly
:|
I used to day dream about having the perfect keyboard, and in my imaginations, the board had magnetic levitations. Really hope this turns out well.
Post by: dmatx1 on Wed, 22 July 2020, 14:05:51
Things had gone quiet here and on Apogee, so I was preparing to be disappointed.Apogee is alive too.
Post by: perry4761 on Wed, 22 July 2020, 21:06:16
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 23 July 2020, 03:19:51
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Thu, 23 July 2020, 08:26:36
I used to day dream about having the perfect keyboard, and in my imaginations, the board had magnetic levitations. Really hope this turns out well.
Was that after watching Back to the Future II?
“GASKETS?! Where we’re going, we don’t need GASKETS!!”
(...except on the top. But those don’t count. So much.)
Can we get a flux capacitor logo? It should go nicely with Gok’s upcoming keyboard KITT (Type K)...
Post by: KeebCalmAndCarryOn on Thu, 23 July 2020, 08:28:38
Post by: Llamakob on Thu, 30 July 2020, 04:18:28
Post by: Arcitan on Thu, 13 August 2020, 23:12:13
Post by: XHE on Fri, 14 August 2020, 13:54:44
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Post by: santela on Sat, 15 August 2020, 11:45:11
Post by: DoctorZuluMD on Mon, 07 September 2020, 21:34:25
Post by: paperassgasket on Tue, 08 September 2020, 14:06:31
There probably shouldn't be any appreciable induction occurring but I definitely wouldn't try this with a hall effect switch.
Post by: Surefoot on Tue, 08 September 2020, 14:19:59
This is a really cool concept. I'm mildly curious about the magnets affect on the circuits though.No induction with static (not moving), permanent magnets... And you have little moving parts around.
There probably shouldn't be any appreciable induction occurring but I definitely wouldn't try this with a hall effect switch.
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Tue, 08 September 2020, 14:22:47
We are both still super excited to share this with the community though
Post by: dRpkebs on Tue, 08 September 2020, 14:25:21
we are still working on this in the background as per my last update but we are both busy with other GB's at the moment so progress is slow until those are underway
We are both still super excited to share this with the community though
Yesssss Jae!!
Post by: paperassgasket on Tue, 08 September 2020, 14:25:48
Post by: super_tu on Tue, 08 September 2020, 14:50:21
Post by: pan on Wed, 09 September 2020, 03:16:26
Post by: dibstern on Wed, 09 September 2020, 06:25:24
Post by: IAmAScientistIRL on Wed, 09 September 2020, 06:45:21
ah but the magnets ARE moving when you press down on the top plate. Just not very much. Also they're not moving through a coil so it's not going to do anything. However neodymium magnets might be enough to screw up the function of a hall switch, but that's a moot point since this board doesn't support Alps anyway.
What are you talking about, magnetic field decays exponentially with distance. You'd need the switch and the magnet to be extremely close to trigger a false hall voltage lol
Post by: acaban on Wed, 09 September 2020, 06:46:49
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 09 September 2020, 09:02:51
someone mentionend a stream that had this board, is this true? is there some prototype to see?
Yes I’ve posted above. There are actually three prototypes around with various members of the community rn
If you scroll up you can see where I streamed the proto of the board and the movement you get with the MagLev system. On mobile rn or I’d drop the link again.
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Post by: acaban on Wed, 09 September 2020, 09:35:51
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104704.msg2921704#msg2921704
Post by: acaban on Wed, 09 September 2020, 09:42:50
ok found thanks, and I'm liking it! can't wait the typing test!
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104704.msg2921704#msg2921704
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Fri, 11 September 2020, 13:45:43
Post by: SherlockBunny on Sun, 13 September 2020, 21:15:06
Any chance y'all had the idea of a 60 or TKL with a hotswap ANSI or bottom row Tsangen layout? That would be perfect for me.
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Mon, 14 September 2020, 04:14:38
MagLev seems really promising. I sincerely hope you guys will be able to accomplish this. Good luck!
Any chance y'all had the idea of a 60 or TKL with a hotswap ANSI or bottom row Tsangen layout? That would be perfect for me.
We have the 65 working in full and just need to do some tweaks. We aren’t considering other layouts just yet as we want to make sure this one is good first
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Post by: Maniac on Sun, 15 November 2020, 04:53:23
Post by: soloplayer on Wed, 06 January 2021, 04:55:57
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 06 January 2021, 06:17:52
We've had proof of concepts for over a year, Working Prototypes since April 2020, but a lack of time since. The big challenge is for Flex and I finding time between day jobs, ongoing Group Buys and other projects to make the final revisions.
Case design - 95% done
PCB design - 95% done
Final R&D - 80% done
Some final tweaks needed and a range of materials to test for mounting options, a final round of prototypes to manufacture and then we will look at next steps
We are planning to look at this early this year
Post by: santela on Wed, 06 January 2021, 09:50:30
So yes, there is kind of an update
We've had proof of concepts for over a year, Working Prototypes since April 2020, but a lack of time since. The big challenge is for Flex and I finding time between day jobs, ongoing Group Buys and other projects to make the final revisions.
Case design - 95% done
PCB design - 95% done
Final R&D - 80% done
Some final tweaks needed and a range of materials to test for mounting options, a final round of prototypes to manufacture and then we will look at next steps
We are planning to look at this early this year
Finally some news! Just wish I could be able to cop one whenever it becomes available
Post by: NovaRMK on Wed, 06 January 2021, 09:57:45
Post by: soloplayer on Wed, 06 January 2021, 10:10:49
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Post by: Ibleskim on Sun, 31 January 2021, 19:19:48
Post by: hkhawk on Mon, 01 February 2021, 23:01:23
This board remains strongly attractive to me.
It has a certain magnetism
Post by: ThiccAntecc on Fri, 05 February 2021, 20:06:17
This board remains strongly attractive to me.
It has a certain magnetism
Get out.
Also, love the board, looking out for more updates!
Post by: Havattack on Thu, 18 February 2021, 11:58:40
This board remains strongly attractive to me.
It has a certain magnetism
Get out.
Also, love the board, looking out for more updates!
I know... they are being so repulsive.
Post by: Havattack on Thu, 18 February 2021, 12:00:52
Like the thick bezels and I think the top right blocker looks nice and helps it look different from all the other 65% keyboards out there
"thick bezels"?!? Them girly little things? Phshhhhhh. 3 inch bezels, or go home.
Post by: Timception on Fri, 19 February 2021, 12:37:27
Post by: darthcapn on Mon, 01 March 2021, 18:35:32
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Post by: Brioric on Tue, 02 March 2021, 13:29:48
ISO enter looks pretty good with this kind of layout
Post by: handmademedal on Wed, 03 March 2021, 01:28:51
Post by: prizeS on Wed, 03 March 2021, 03:01:24
Post by: Kyakotaa on Wed, 10 March 2021, 05:47:39
Bottom half looks fantastic.
Maglev concept is extremely intriguing. Looking forward to future of this project.
Post by: Dr-lipschitz on Fri, 12 March 2021, 00:41:26
Post by: 2QT2BSTR8 on Fri, 12 March 2021, 01:16:46
The top half of the design feels a little uncanny to me. Not even the bezels but the missing top right 1u key with nothing replacing it and a distinct lack of character make it seem slightly unfinished.
Quote from: Flexerman
The top blocker was a miss communication turns out we each thought the other wanted it :-[ .
Quote from: Jae-3soteric
Blocker is likely to go tbh - if you see the plate file it has a key there.
Post by: kvswim on Wed, 17 March 2021, 14:26:06
Post by: Runningtarrens on Thu, 18 March 2021, 08:20:31
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Post by: jabe8i on Wed, 21 April 2021, 22:36:09
Just watched the stream, I am extremely impressed! This is probably the most interesting board I have seen. I really hope the GB will be unlimited so I'll get to try this innovative mounting method and the new typing experience.
I second this. unlimited group buy would be nice, im ok with slightly longer wait times if need be
Post by: jabe8i on Sun, 11 July 2021, 11:40:47
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sun, 11 July 2021, 12:00:15
Is it time for an update? or should we have a moment of silence for a dope board we'll never see?
This is still the latest update:
So yes, there is kind of an update
We've had proof of concepts for over a year, Working Prototypes since April 2020, but a lack of time since. The big challenge is for Flex and I finding time between day jobs, ongoing Group Buys and other projects to make the final revisions.
Case design - 95% done
PCB design - 95% done
Final R&D - 80% done
Some final tweaks needed and a range of materials to test for mounting options, a final round of prototypes to manufacture and then we will look at next steps
We are planning to look at this early this year
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Post by: santela on Sun, 11 July 2021, 23:43:42
Is it time for an update? or should we have a moment of silence for a dope board we'll never see?
This is still the latest update:So yes, there is kind of an update
We've had proof of concepts for over a year, Working Prototypes since April 2020, but a lack of time since. The big challenge is for Flex and I finding time between day jobs, ongoing Group Buys and other projects to make the final revisions.
Case design - 95% done
PCB design - 95% done
Final R&D - 80% done
Some final tweaks needed and a range of materials to test for mounting options, a final round of prototypes to manufacture and then we will look at next steps
We are planning to look at this early this year
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Glad this is still happening at least.
Post by: Kiko Keyco on Mon, 12 July 2021, 20:06:25
Post by: growler on Tue, 13 July 2021, 03:32:30
I see a parasite. A sexually depraved miscreant who is seeking only to gratify his basest and most immediate urges.
This struggle is man's struggle. It lifts my spirit.
It is a loathsome, offensive brute. Yet I can’t look away.
It transcends time and space.
This sickens me.
I love it.
Me too.
Where do I buy?
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Post by: aperumdesign on Fri, 23 July 2021, 07:25:16
Post by: AshF on Tue, 10 August 2021, 04:47:16
Post by: jabe8i on Tue, 10 August 2021, 21:34:09
This looks like a really interesting board - it's crying out for an exploded 65% look and think it would compliment it greatly. A badge would be nice in that top right corner. Keeping an eye on this one :)
A badge and the exploded layout would make this board huge. The bezels are for the magnets so they would need to move that even farther out, plus they already got prototypes in so I don't see the layout changing.
Post by: Madrobby on Mon, 16 August 2021, 10:09:41
Post by: bball2 on Mon, 16 August 2021, 10:33:41
Post by: LunoVonFancala on Sat, 21 August 2021, 09:38:56
Post by: SkyBoy on Tue, 04 January 2022, 16:51:10
(Also is there any reason for the lack of feet on the bottom?)
Post by: jivex5k on Wed, 05 January 2022, 15:17:34
Look's super interesting can't wait for more info!I was under the impression it would levitate above the desk.
(Also is there any reason for the lack of feet on the bottom?)
Post by: the_useless_turtle on Mon, 21 March 2022, 02:01:33
Post by: granola bar enthusiast on Mon, 16 May 2022, 12:09:25
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Post by: syryan on Thu, 14 September 2023, 12:02:53
Post by: aicyborg on Thu, 14 September 2023, 18:52:00
(Edit: You can ask him on his streams for yourself.)
Post by: doveman on Tue, 12 March 2024, 17:35:21
I'm not sure why this got resurrected randomly, but on Jae's Twitch streams he's alluded to the fact this is likely delayed indefinitely and may not ever happen because he and Flex haven't made contact for a while.
(Edit: You can ask him on his streams for yourself.)
:(