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geekhack Marketplace => Group Buys and Preorders => Topic started by: juahenza on Tue, 24 January 2017, 23:39:21

Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 24 January 2017, 23:39:21
For more background information on the project
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86815.0

(http://i.imgur.com/9XeuT5u.jpg)


First of all I would like to apologize for the delay in launching the GB. Lots of details need to be finalized, Chinese New Year preparation and also my brother's family visiting from New Zealand. It has been an intensive week for me.

The prototype we made is perfect. The Kustom elements added to it by yuktsi blended really well with Rama's design. An actual board tells a lot more than just renders, in this case. Everything was very different from how I expected EXENT would be. The board weighed reasonably nice, it sits sturdily on my table and the height is just right. Most important of all the actual board looks a lot more buff. It looks like a gangsta when sitting next to any TKL. I love it very much. ntw couldn't stop touching it.

It has been pointed out by many that it's unrealistic to just add a few dollars on top of the cost. The poly-carbonate bottom and stainless steel feet are really difficult to be machined.  There are chances of defective parts during production that has to be accounted for. We also foresee the unavoidable import tax on the GMK set. The initial design fee and cost of prototyping was sunk cost and were not costed into our selling price.

Due to the circumstances we had to place 10% increment to our original proposed price, for contingency purposes (toughest decision I ever made in my life). EXENT is something I wish to do for the community. 2016 was an amazing year for me because of you guys. XOXO


Engineering Sample

(http://i.imgur.com/BzvmNqE.jpg)

more http://imgur.com/a/hmJ5m (http://imgur.com/a/hmJ5m)



Design

(http://i.imgur.com/VG6XQQP.jpg)

More
(http://i.imgur.com/jNHEp9d.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YV3hbEw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Asg14LW.jpg)


GMK Keyset

(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)


Layouts

(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)


Finish

Black
(http://i.imgur.com/W1HOAR0.jpg)

Silver
(http://i.imgur.com/pKLt7Nf.jpg)

Grey
(http://i.imgur.com/WlZlAC5.jpg)

Blue
(http://i.imgur.com/4S4DVOJ.jpg)

Pink
(http://i.imgur.com/TbjKmC4.jpg)


Tech Specs
Material: 6 series Aluminum (top housing), Polycarbonate (bottom housing), Stainless steel (feet)
Dimension: 140 x 400 mm (5.5 x 15.7 inch)
Angle: 8 or 12 degree
Weight: 1.6kg (3.5lbs)
PCB: Developed based on ps2avrGB firmware and Bootmapper GUI with permission from Winkeyless.kr

Price
- Exent Basic Kit: from $198 (inclusive of housing, plate and PCB)
- Exent Premium Kit: from $275 (inclusive of basic kit, stabs, switches and GMK Keyset)

Additional Parts 
- PCB $35
- Aluminium plate $30
- Brass plate $55
- 8 deg feet $25
- 12 deg feet $40
- Polycarbonate bottom case $50
- Aluminum bottom case $80

Shipping
- Shipping will be from Malaysia
- US $50
- Asia $25
- Europe $40

Project Timeline
- Groupbuy ends 22th February 2016
- Payment deadline 28th February 2016
- Production 12-16 weeks

Moderator edit: removed link to order form, as this group buy is long over.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 24 January 2017, 23:40:01
FAQ

1. How long will the GB be open for and when is payment due?
Check project timeline in the first post.

2. Availability of MOD switches?
Form has been update. MOD-L and MOD-M are available now for +$40.

3. Factory Assembly?
Everything is pre-assembled except for stabilizers, switch and front LEDs.

4. ETA for GMK render?
No ETA. Sherryton/the team will keep us informed as details develop.

5. What extra keys will the GMK set come with?
The keys shown in the existing render + 4 keys for ISO + 3 keys for split spacebar.

6. What kind of stabilizers will be included? When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout? What brand are the stabilizers? Will the GMK set in the Premium kit support the split spacebar layout?
Standard and screw-in type (both are PCB mounted). Comes is 5 x 2u and 1 x 6.25u. They are supplied by GMK. The form has been updated, you pick either or both of them for additional parts now. And yes, 5 x 2u is enough for split spacebar layout.

7. Is underglow LED configurable and RGB?
Yes, through BootMapper Client winkeyless.

8. How do we order two boards?
Yes. Just submit a second form and a put a remark at the note section.

9. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference? Does one let the LED light shine through more than the other?
You can see the difference but the options are for people who want to try a different typing feel. Brass is denser than steel but not as hard. It has nothing to do with the LED, though the silver anodized aluminum plate is more reflective.

10. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?
8 deg

11. What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80? Can you mark the parcel as gift?
Its an option for them to declare the package as being valued under $80. This can help people dodge some custom taxes and stuff, though has some small risks. All parcel will be marked as gift.

12. How do we order two boards?
Yes. Just submit a second form and a put a remark at the note section.

13. Will we have a chance to edit our information before the GB closes? If we already used the form, can we change it?
I've enabled "Edit after submit" feature. You should be able to edit it after submission. In case you can't do it, you may submit another one and put a remark at the note section.

14. Will the GMK set ever be sold seperately, like on the Originative store?
No.

15. Which color should I pick?
Get both or all.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 24 January 2017, 23:40:28
#Update 2nd January 2018
1. Basic Kit (except gray) all shipped
2. Basic Kit (gray) - all shipped
3. Basic Kit with addons - all shipped
4. Premium Kit going on - shipping

Collecting the anodized aluminum bottom tomorrow. Will update on how it goes.

#Update 7th December 2017
1. Basic Kit (except gray) all shipped
2. Basic Kit (gray) - shipped by the week of 11th Dec
3. Basic Kit with addons - shipped by week of 11th Dec
4. Premium Kit going on - shipping out in the week of 18th Dec

Machining for aluminum bottom has been completed. Expect for another week for anodizing.

LED Repair Guide https://imgur.com/a/qaj50

Kindly fill the form if you have received a cracked bottom
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScvIUGHcOE_H1KhPcFmHPZAi8SRr8BIjIoK6fNA2dl8CAXQig/viewform


#Update 9th August 2017

Been awhile since the last update from us. This will serve as the update section, we are committed to updating everyone on a weekly basis.

Top case: Machining has been completed, anodizing is in progress. We had received of the gray parts, finishing isn't really up to our expectation, they were sent back for rework. The top part will be delivered in batches according to colors.

Bottom Polycarbonate: Machining in progress.

Bottom Aluminum: Will commence as soon as the machining for polycarbonate bottom is completed.

Stainless steel feet: Fabrication completed.

PCB: Fabrication completed. Awaiting QC and delivery.

Plate aluminum: Anodizing in progress.

Plate brass: Fabrication in progress.

GMK set: Fabrication in progress.

Packaging/Boxes/Screws/Bumpons: On hand.

The machining of the polycarbonate is identified to be the critical path for the whole delivery. First was the delayed in the commencement of fabrication of it, we were later informed that the machine has to be programmed to be slower in order to avoid excessive heat generation, which will cause warping in the machine parts. Thus further lengthen the whole process. At this rate, we are looking to starting the delivery by late September/October, and to completely deliver by early December.   
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 25 January 2017, 06:56:42
 :-*
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Zackfoo on Wed, 25 January 2017, 06:57:12
TARO! Basically means the keyboard is made with yam. Good stuff! Bump!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Wed, 25 January 2017, 06:57:33
Yeeeee
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 25 January 2017, 06:58:29
in for the pink
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Wed, 25 January 2017, 06:59:29
in for the pink
Lol of course you are.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: testplsignore on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:12:07
The renders show grey keys with black legends, but the mockup is black keys with grey legends.

I'm assuming it's going to be the black keys with grey legends? Need to know to make my decision on case color.  :p

Also, any info on payment timeframes / shipping costs to Australia? Is this shipping from the USA?

Looking awesome though!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:16:02
The first of the color pictures is the actual black prototype they built, the other colors are photoshopped for reference. So I don't think that keyset is meant to be an indicator of the gmk set, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: testplsignore on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:18:50
The first of the color pictures is the actual black prototype they built, the other colors are photoshopped for reference. So I don't think that keyset is meant to be an indicator of the gmk set, but I could be wrong.

Yeah, not the prototype (I'm pretty sure that's O.co Cyrillic); but the difference between the photoshopped renders and the 2D mockup of the GMK set.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Blackhawk on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:24:46
The first of the color pictures is the actual black prototype they built, the other colors are photoshopped for reference. So I don't think that keyset is meant to be an indicator of the gmk set, but I could be wrong.

Yeah, not the prototype (I'm pretty sure that's O.co Cyrillic); but the difference between the photoshopped renders and the 2D mockup of the GMK set.

It's a photo of the prototype with an EnjoyPBT keyset thats has been photoshopped to show the various colors.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:25:22
How do we order two boards? I wanted to have two sets of options for this, but it only lets me submit one form.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:25:28
The first of the color pictures is the actual black prototype they built, the other colors are photoshopped for reference. So I don't think that keyset is meant to be an indicator of the gmk set, but I could be wrong.

Yeah, not the prototype (I'm pretty sure that's O.co Cyrillic); but the difference between the photoshopped renders and the 2D mockup of the GMK set.

Do you mean the black on gray with the orange (I think? Or red) escape, on the wooden background? If so, that's just a keyset that was put on the prototype, not a rendered keyset.

I apologize if I'm misunderstanding you!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: testplsignore on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:29:54
The first of the color pictures is the actual black prototype they built, the other colors are photoshopped for reference. So I don't think that keyset is meant to be an indicator of the gmk set, but I could be wrong.

Yeah, not the prototype (I'm pretty sure that's O.co Cyrillic); but the difference between the photoshopped renders and the 2D mockup of the GMK set.

Do you mean the black on gray with the orange (I think? Or red) escape, on the wooden background? If so, that's just a keyset that was put on the prototype, not a rendered keyset.

I apologize if I'm misunderstanding you!

All good!

Looks like the GMK keyset will be Black with grey legends. (The mockup with the red esc and the red enter)

As mentioned by Blackhawk, the photoshopped renders have a grey EnjoyPBT set with black legends that was just used on the prototype for the different colors.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Pwner on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:32:57
How long is this going to run for?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: ricyuyc on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:33:33
the optional stabilisers are not screw in type, right?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: hitlu on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:36:46
ORDER HERE (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScgc1jLcukIpmTPCjYUx3niuWMqppPrDa3lnHOjoa0iNeiJYQ/viewform)

For more background information on the project
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86815.0

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/9XeuT5u.jpg)



First of all I would like to apologize for the delay in launching the GB. Lots of details need to be finalized, Chinese New Year preparation and also my brother's family visiting from New Zealand. It has been an intensive week for me.

The prototype we made is perfect. The Kustom elements added to it by yuktsi blended really well with Rama's design. An actual board tells a lot more than just renders, in this case. Everything was very different from how I expected EXENT would be. The board weighed reasonably nice, it sits sturdily on my table and the height is just right. Most important of all the actual board looks a lot more buff. It looks like a gangsta when sitting next to any TKL. I love it very much. ntw couldn't stop touching it.

It has been pointed out by many that it's unrealistic to just add a few dollars on top of the cost. The poly-carbonate bottom and stainless steel feet are really difficult to be machined.  There are chances of defective parts during production that has to be accounted for. We also foresee the unavoidable import tax on the GMK set. The initial design fee and cost of prototyping was sunk cost and were not costed into our selling price.

Due to the circumstances we had to place 10% increment to our original proposed price, for contingency purposes (toughest decision I ever made in my life). EXENT is something I wish to do for the community. 2016 was an amazing year for me because of you guys. XOXO


Engineering Sample

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/BzvmNqE.jpg)


more http://imgur.com/a/hmJ5m (http://imgur.com/a/hmJ5m)



Design

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VG6XQQP.jpg)


More
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/jNHEp9d.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YV3hbEw.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Asg14LW.jpg)


GMK Keyset

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/CTcAAsP.png)

We are still waiting for the render with ISO and more keys


Layouts

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)



Finish

Black
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/W1HOAR0.jpg)


Silver
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/pKLt7Nf.jpg)


Grey
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/WlZlAC5.jpg)


Blue
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/4S4DVOJ.jpg)


Pink
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/TbjKmC4.jpg)



Tech Specs
Material: 6 series Aluminum (top housing), Polycarbonate (bottom housing), Stainless steel (feet)
Dimension: 140 x 400 mm (5.5 x 15.7 inch)
Angle: 8 or 12 degree
Weight: 1.6kg (3.5lbs)
PCB: Developed based on ps2avrGB firmware and Bootmapper GUI with permission from Winkeyless.kr

Price
- Exent Basic Kit: from $198 (inclusive of housing, plate and PCB)
- Exent Premium Kit: from $275 (inclusive of basic kit, stabs, switches and GMK Keyset)

Additional Parts 
- PCB $35
- Aluminium plate $30
- Brass plate $55
- 8 deg feet $25
- 12 deg feet $40
- Polycarbonate bottom case $50
- Aluminum bottom case $80

GLW
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: joey on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:37:41
Congrats juanhenza (& co), I know you've been wanting this for a long time :thumb: :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:38:43
I was really hoping for a bubble gum pink and not Lamborghini pink :( Oh well one less thing to consider.

Sent from my microwave oven using alternating current

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: catweewee on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:46:53
Ill take one in each colour please. Delivered to my doorstep by amos. With angpao. Thx


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: HannahPeach on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:47:06
What a time to be alive actually :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: rmendis on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:55:41
This is so tempting, because it's such an interesting design. Kudos to you for getting this executed to this point.

One thing that keeps nagging me, however, is whether that lower bezel is too short to be a wrist rest and just long enough to be a pain.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gaunt on Wed, 25 January 2017, 07:57:03
How long will the GB be open for? I need time to decide :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:06:45
Ill take one in each colour please. Delivered to my doorstep by amos. With angpao. Thx


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
K
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: The_Boom_Boy on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:07:19
that is one cheap gmk set
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:08:39
Will shipping be cheaper for those in Malaysia?  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: japanitrat on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:17:32
How do we order two boards? I wanted to have two sets of options for this, but it only lets me submit one form.

Incognito mode is your friend.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:21:37
How do we order two boards? I wanted to have two sets of options for this, but it only lets me submit one form.

Incognito mode is your friend.

Seems to be okay now, looks like I can submit a second form without having to go Incognito.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:23:59
Are there no options for MOD switches (for an extra fee of course)? I thought it was hinted that there would be, both on geekhack and reddit. That was the biggest attraction to the Premium kit for me  :(.

EDIT: Also, there was mention of a Factory Assemble option for premium kits. Did that fall through, or am I just missing something on the order sheet?

Finally, I don't see any details about the stabilizers. I'm assuming they aren't screw in, and there's no way to order screw-in stabilizers with the Premium kit?

This is my first group-buy, so sorry for any silly questions. Really excited about this; I'm in love with the grey color. Very happy it appears to be more of a carbon-grey than a space grey (although I'll be fine it it turns out to be space grey too).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:33:47
(https://media.giphy.com/media/5xtDarykEyDyC3ab5PG/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:45:49
Wait, a question- do I need to have a polycarbonate bottom to retain the lighting to the ground?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:49:49
Wait, a question- do I need to have a polycarbonate bottom to retain the lighting to the ground?
Yes
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: stoic-lemon on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:54:22
Shipping from Malaysia may just be the excuse I need to get this. I'll probably wait until the end though due to money things. I'd like to see how that pink is going to look irl.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:56:53
Are there no options for MOD switches (for an extra fee of course)? I thought it was hinted that there would be, both on geekhack and reddit. That was the biggest attraction to the Premium kit for me  :(.

EDIT: Also, there was mention of a Factory Assemble option for premium kits. Did that fall through, or am I just missing something on the order sheet?

Finally, I don't see any details about the stabilizers. I'm assuming they aren't screw in, and there's no way to order screw-in stabilizers with the Premium kit?

This is my first group-buy, so sorry for any silly questions. Really excited about this; I'm in love with the grey color. Very happy it appears to be more of a carbon-grey than a space grey (although I'll be fine it it turns out to be space grey too).

I am very interested to know if MOD switches will be offered as a switch option as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 25 January 2017, 08:57:01
Actually, I've only read the 1st page of the form thus far but is factory assembly still being offered or did you opt out of that? Additionally how's the shipping being handled, is it still being proxy'd by people in the UK/US for EU/NA orders?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: cynviloq on Wed, 25 January 2017, 09:06:13
Thanks, signed up. Will we be able to see pictures of the aluminum bottom cases before the GB ends? Would like to see some sample pieces before adding to my order.

Actually, I've only read the 1st page of the form thus far but is factory assembly still being offered or did you opt out of that? Additionally how's the shipping being handled, is it still being proxy'd by people in the UK/US for EU/NA orders?

First post seems to indicate shipping directly from Malaysia.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: merutz on Wed, 25 January 2017, 09:16:33
1. MOD switches?

2. Factory Assembly?

3. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?

3. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference?

4. ETA for GMK render?

P.S. Can we please get a a video of the engineering sample? I'd really love to hear how it sounds.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 25 January 2017, 09:27:08
3. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference?
The plate material will affect the feel of the keyboard. The brass should feel stiffer/less flexible than the aluminum. People seem to generally prefer brass and steel for linear switches and aluminum for tactile.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: ntw on Wed, 25 January 2017, 09:58:41
Ill take one in each colour please. Delivered to my doorstep by amos. With angpao. Thx


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
K

don't miss mine too
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: kconfire on Wed, 25 January 2017, 10:02:06
3. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference?
The plate material will affect the feel of the keyboard. The brass should feel stiffer/less flexible than the aluminum. People seem to generally prefer brass and steel for linear switches and aluminum for tactile.

Hmm that's interesting.
So I take the strongest/least flexible switch plate is NOT always the best and there are suitable/more preferred switch plates for different switches?

I've seen some people prefer Poly carbonate plates- how do they feel?
Poly carbonate is like the plastic that Samsung uses a lot on their phone, correct?

I wish someone had identical 4 keyboards with different switch plates from brass, aluminum, poly carbonate, and carbon fiber! :D

Would you say if I was going to go for Vintage Cherry MX Black/Brown or Zealious 62/65g I should go for aluminum switch plate?
Would brass too stiff for tactile switches and poly carbonate not as good as aluminum?

Very interesting.. never thought about all these before and this is making me a headache lol
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: ironpup on Wed, 25 January 2017, 10:03:55
No MODs? Still going to buy, but having MODs as an option would make life so much easier  :-\

Also I'm assuming if you're get the premium kit you don't need to add any stabilazers in the additional parts page?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: potatobot on Wed, 25 January 2017, 10:07:57
What stabs or where are you sourcing those stabs? :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 25 January 2017, 10:08:56
Hmm that's interesting.
So I take the strongest/least flexible switch plate is NOT always the best and there are suitable/more preferred switch plates for different switches?

I've seen some people prefer Poly carbonate plates- how do they feel?
Poly carbonate is like the plastic that Samsung uses a lot on their phone, correct?

I wish someone had identical 4 keyboards with different switch plates from brass, aluminum, poly carbonate, and carbon fiber! :D

Would you say if I was going to go for Vintage Cherry MX Black/Brown or Zealious 62/65g I should go for aluminum switch plate?
Would brass too stiff for tactile switches and poly carbonate not as good as aluminum?

Very interesting.. never thought about all these before and this is making me a headache lol

So I haven't tried comparing identical boards, but I have tried putting tactile switches on my steel plate board and found that I didn't like it at all, and I didn't like linear switches until I tried them on that steel plate.

For the tactile switches(tried greens and zealios) I think the issue was bottoming out on steel felt really harsh and sudden.

Polycarbonate and carbon fiber should be more flexible than aluminum.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: nonah on Wed, 25 January 2017, 10:19:22
Hmm that's interesting.
So I take the strongest/least flexible switch plate is NOT always the best and there are suitable/more preferred switch plates for different switches?

I've seen some people prefer Poly carbonate plates- how do they feel?
Poly carbonate is like the plastic that Samsung uses a lot on their phone, correct?

I wish someone had identical 4 keyboards with different switch plates from brass, aluminum, poly carbonate, and carbon fiber! :D

Would you say if I was going to go for Vintage Cherry MX Black/Brown or Zealious 62/65g I should go for aluminum switch plate?
Would brass too stiff for tactile switches and poly carbonate not as good as aluminum?

Very interesting.. never thought about all these before and this is making me a headache lol

So I haven't tried comparing identical boards, but I have tried putting tactile switches on my steel plate board and found that I didn't like it at all, and I didn't like linear switches until I tried them on that steel plate.

For the tactile switches(tried greens and zealios) I think the issue was bottoming out on steel felt really harsh and sudden.

Polycarbonate and carbon fiber should be more flexible than aluminum.

Wouldn't the bottoming out be even harsher on a steel plate when using linear switches?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 25 January 2017, 10:31:10


Wouldn't the bottoming out be even harsher on a steel plate when using linear switches?
I personally bottom out a lot harder on tactile switches than I do with linear switches. I think its because of the extra force I use to overcome the bump/click.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 25 January 2017, 10:43:49
Hopefully I'll have the funds for this.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 25 January 2017, 10:46:04
On one hand I really like how the black looks on the sample, on the other hand I own too many black boards. Wish there was some way to see how the other colors would actually look, even on just small sample pieces of aluminum.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 25 January 2017, 10:50:39


Wouldn't the bottoming out be even harsher on a steel plate when using linear switches?
I personally bottom out a lot harder on tactile switches than I do with linear switches. I think its because of the extra force I use to overcome the bump/click.

Here's a good diagram on common Cherry MX switch force curves:

(https://deskthority.net/w/images/3/38/CherryMXForceTravel.png)

So you're correct: the reason you bottom out harder on tactile switches is because you have to apply extra force to overcome the bump, which is followed immediately by a sharp drop in force required to continue the keypress.

Thinking about it this way, it makes sense that a stiffer plate would be better for linear switches. A stiff plate means the switch stays firmly in place, giving you a very consistent, linear force curve every time. A plate with more give, or no plate at all, means a less consistent force curve, but the curve is already inconsistent due to the bump, so what you really care about is the softer bottom-out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: arsenics on Wed, 25 January 2017, 10:51:32
So excited. I've been lurking and looking at everything Exent-related for the last couple of weeks... this looks really stunning. I read on the IC thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86815.msg2337079#msg2337079) that factory assemble was a possibility – any idea as to how much would that increase the cost?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: rmendis on Wed, 25 January 2017, 10:54:02
I may have missed this, but does anyone know if the underglow LED is white only, or RGB configurable?
Thanks
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: robbles on Wed, 25 January 2017, 10:59:51
1. MOD switches?

2. Factory Assembly?

3. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?

3. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference?

4. ETA for GMK render?

P.S. Can we please get a a video of the engineering sample? I'd really love to hear how it sounds.

Adding my questions to this:
5. What extra keys will the GMK set come with? I'm mostly curious about R2 Delete key and R3 Control.

6. What kind of stabilizers will be included? When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 25 January 2017, 11:05:52
I may have missed this, but does anyone know if the underglow LED is white only, or RGB configurable?
Thanks

I'm sure it's not just white, I'm however less sure whether it is fully RGB configurable or just a few colours you can scroll by.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 25 January 2017, 11:09:39
I may have missed this, but does anyone know if the underglow LED is white only, or RGB configurable?
Thanks

I'm sure it's not just white, I'm however less sure whether it is fully RGB configurable or just a few colours you can scroll by.
I think that since its based on ps2avrGB it should be fully RGB.


Also, just checking, this board won't have switchtop removal openings in the plate right? Just basing off of one of the early render imageshttp://i.imgur.com/aU4BL9F.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/aU4BL9F.jpg) that seems to not have them.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: rmendis on Wed, 25 January 2017, 11:15:58
Some good questions in here. Consolidating with latest info.
Maybe OP can create a FAQ at top.

1. MOD switches?
?

2. Factory Assembly?
?

3. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?
?

4. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference?
?

5. ETA for GMK render?
?

6. What extra keys will the GMK set come with? I'm mostly curious about R2 Delete key and R3 Control.
?

7. What kind of stabilizers will be included? When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout?
?

8. Is underglow LED configurable?
Probably yes. Not sure if full RGB or fixed colors.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 25 January 2017, 11:17:13
How dark is the grey finish, anyone know? In the render it looks closer to the black than the silver, and I really like that, hoping the actual product will be equally dark?? before I commit.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: FLOCKA on Wed, 25 January 2017, 11:21:26
Gosh, would it be too indulgent to order this after having ordered the M65-A? This is a certainly a statement piece that would look amazing with a clean desk setup. And it makes the M65 bezels looks tame by comparison!

Anybody here buying both?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 25 January 2017, 11:23:45
Gosh, would it be too indulgent to order this after having ordered the M65-A? This is a certainly a statement piece that would look amazing with a clean desk setup. And it makes the M65 bezels looks tame by comparison!

Anybody here buying both?
I think slash emperor is buying 1 M65 and 2 EXENTs
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 25 January 2017, 11:24:34
How dark is the grey finish, anyone know? In the render it looks closer to the black than the silver, and I really like that, hoping the actual product will be equally dark?? before I commit.

It should be the same ish grey that's on the M10 (that dropped on MD recently), it's more of a spacey grey, almost black, rather than silvery grey.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: msilvv on Wed, 25 January 2017, 11:45:45
Gosh, would it be too indulgent to order this after having ordered the M65-A? This is a certainly a statement piece that would look amazing with a clean desk setup. And it makes the M65 bezels looks tame by comparison!

Anybody here buying both?
I am! Ordered in grey, hoping to put SA oblivion on this and GMK Penumbra on my M65. I'm going to be waiting a while. Very excited nonetheless!

To add to the questions: is this shipping directly from Malaysia? Will that have any effect on US customs taxes? Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: jeffbolton on Wed, 25 January 2017, 11:50:23
Any chance the GMK set can have keys for split spacebar?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 25 January 2017, 11:53:20
Any chance the GMK set can have keys for split spacebar?
Oh yeah, I forgot that I would definitely need that   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 25 January 2017, 12:00:00
Will we have a chance to edit our information before the GB closes? In case we change our mind about choosing black when we might want the grey, even though we probably want the black, despite really being drawn to the grey, but deciding ultimately that the black will match better in more circumstances and with a wider range of keycaps, even though the grey would be a unique color compared to all the black electronics I already have, but black. But grey. But black?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 25 January 2017, 12:04:34
Any chance the GMK set can have keys for split spacebar?

I'd imagine the GMK set will be tailored/produced per order hence one would assume it'll support the layout you personally pick for your keyboard. That might not be the case however so I expect some clarification from Jua or another project member in the near future. Someone comprised a pretty good FAQ a few posts up so hopefully that gets sorted timely (the GB is open for quite a while so no rush really).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 25 January 2017, 12:07:16
Will we have a chance to edit our information before the GB closes? In case we change our mind about choosing black when we might want the grey, even though we probably want the black, despite really being drawn to the grey, but deciding ultimately that the black will match better in more circumstances and with a wider range of keycaps, even though the grey would be a unique color compared to all the black electronics I already have, but black. But grey. But black?

This has been me the past 18 days. I've even tried making renders with my favorite keysets (and failing spectacularly). The ultimate first-world problem.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: ironpup on Wed, 25 January 2017, 12:17:13
Some good questions in here. Consolidating with latest info.
Maybe OP can create a FAQ at top.

1. MOD switches?
?

2. Factory Assembly?
?

3. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?
?

4. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference?
?

5. ETA for GMK render?
?

6. What extra keys will the GMK set come with? I'm mostly curious about R2 Delete key and R3 Control.
?

7. What kind of stabilizers will be included? When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout?
?

8. Is underglow LED configurable?
Probably yes. Not sure if full RGB or fixed colors.

It seems like all of GH is waiting for the answers
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: chromatically on Wed, 25 January 2017, 12:19:14
Beautiful work everyone... looking forward to this one a lot.
I put in an order, hopefully you saw my PM that I wanted to add a polycarbonate bottom to my order (in addition to the alu one that I ordered with it). Cheers.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 25 January 2017, 12:35:32
Gosh, would it be too indulgent to order this after having ordered the M65-A? This is a certainly a statement piece that would look amazing with a clean desk setup. And it makes the M65 bezels looks tame by comparison!

Anybody here buying both?
I think slash emperor is buying 1 M65 and 2 EXENTs

Yes siree. Hydro Blue for the M65-A, and Black and Silver for the EXENT, since Rose Gold seems to be dropped.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 25 January 2017, 12:38:17
Please keep in mind that is the middle of the night for most of the GB organizers, so don't expect answers until morning.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 25 January 2017, 12:46:31
Some good questions in here. Consolidating with latest info.
Maybe OP can create a FAQ at top.

1. MOD switches?
?

2. Factory Assembly?
?

3. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?
?

4. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference?
?

5. ETA for GMK render?
?

6. What extra keys will the GMK set come with? I'm mostly curious about R2 Delete key and R3 Control.
?

7. What kind of stabilizers will be included? When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout?
?

8. Is underglow LED configurable?
Probably yes. Not sure if full RGB or fixed colors.

I'll answer the ones I have the answers to:

1. MOD Switches

Yes, we're going to make that available.

2. Factory Assembly

No, we used a different manufacturer to keep costs down.

5. I pushed GMK for this week, but they are delayed on most items. I'll let you know as soon as I get information myself.

6. The set comes with a big ISO Enter.

7. Genuine Standard PCB Mount or Screw in
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 25 January 2017, 13:05:34
how is GMK gonna support those split-spacebar layouts? hmmm???
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 25 January 2017, 13:15:10
As per Sherry's response it seems they might not, guess those are going to be for people who don't want to get the premium kit then which still sort of makes sense, a shame but understandable costs-wise probably.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 25 January 2017, 13:29:47
juahenza, just to confirm, we can submit the order now and pay in Feb? (Payment deadline 28th February 2016)

January has already been devastating on my wallet so an extra few weeks to come up with the money would be super helpful, and it also sounds like there will be the option of adding MOD switches (which are not currently on the order form.)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 25 January 2017, 14:31:34
Looks awesome!  :thumb:

Quick questions: Is the bottom aluminum plate fully replacing the polycarbonate (full aluminum body)?  What is the default plate?  Steel?

Thanks!

MaNiFeX
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Data on Wed, 25 January 2017, 15:00:15
Ordered 1x Grey base kit with PC bottom @ 8° tilt.

Planning to pair this with GMK Terminal if all goes well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 25 January 2017, 15:05:52
Will we have a chance to edit our information before the GB closes? In case we change our mind about choosing black when we might want the grey, even though we probably want the black, despite really being drawn to the grey, but deciding ultimately that the black will match better in more circumstances and with a wider range of keycaps, even though the grey would be a unique color compared to all the black electronics I already have, but black. But grey. But black?

This has been me the past 18 days. I've even tried making renders with my favorite keysets (and failing spectacularly). The ultimate first-world problem.
If you do make some renders could you share them?

Sent from my microwave oven using alternating current

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: codedisorg on Wed, 25 January 2017, 15:07:39
Should we wait for the MOD switch option to be added to that form? Currently that's the only reason I haven't ordered.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: ironpup on Wed, 25 January 2017, 15:23:21
Should we wait for the MOD switch option to be added to that form? Currently that's the only reason I haven't ordered.
Same here
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 25 January 2017, 15:29:53
What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80'?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 25 January 2017, 15:43:46
What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80'?
Its an option for them to declare the package as being valued under $80. This can help people dodge some custom taxes and stuff, though has some small risks. I think you don't really have to worry about it in the US? Feels like its people in Europe who always end up with issues.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 25 January 2017, 15:58:41
What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80'?
Its an option for them to declare the package as being valued under $80. This can help people dodge some custom taxes and stuff, though has some small risks. I think you don't really have to worry about it in the US? Feels like its people in Europe who always end up with issues.

Gotcha, thanks for the explaination
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 25 January 2017, 16:12:23
I see MOD-L (Magenta 45g tactiles) and MOD-M (Cyan 55g tactiles) on the order form now at +$40USD
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dubious on Wed, 25 January 2017, 16:43:44
Ordered 1x Grey base kit with PC bottom @ 8° tilt.

Planning to pair this with GMK Terminal if all goes well.

Excellent choice. I can't decide between black and grey tho  :-\ I would like to see a render with the keycaps + color options

Q: I was curious if the 12° option also includes the 8° foot? If not, can we buy both?
the second page of the order form lets you buy both
Q: Also what brand are the different stabilizers?
both the PCB mount and screw in stabs are genuine cherry, I believe
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 25 January 2017, 16:47:04
Q: I was curious if the 12° option also includes the 8° foot? If not, can we buy both?
Q: Also what brand are the different stabilizers?
12° doesn't include 8°, you can buy both though.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: seantingwong on Wed, 25 January 2017, 16:52:15
Are the only layouts the ones seen on the layout image? Can we expect three 1u keys (as shown on the prototype) instead of the two 1.5u keys on the bottom row?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 25 January 2017, 16:57:51
Are the only layouts the ones seen on the layout image? Can we expect three 1u keys (as shown on the prototype) instead of the two 1.5u keys on the bottom row?
I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in the IC thread that 3 1u would be supported, don't remember exactly where though. It was one of the first pages though.

edit: found it https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86815.msg2336146#msg2336146
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dubious on Wed, 25 January 2017, 18:05:07
Q: I was curious if the 12° option also includes the 8° foot? If not, can we buy both?
Q: Also what brand are the different stabilizers?
12° doesn't include 8°, you can buy both though.

Thanks! Also found a blurb in the IC forum. Stabilizers sound like they will be 'genuine' cherry.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 25 January 2017, 18:10:39
What kind of difference can I expect between standard and screw-mount stabs? I'm assuming the backplate or PCB allow for the screw holes for the latter? What are your preferences?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 25 January 2017, 20:14:15
What kind of difference can I expect between standard and screw-mount stabs? I'm assuming the backplate or PCB allow for the screw holes for the latter? What are your preferences?
It's just how the stab is mounted to the PCB.
Imho, the standard with toothpick is best.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 25 January 2017, 20:17:56
This is one of those boards that I'm not sure how it would fit into my rotation nor how much I'd use it... but it looks so good I feel like I have to make room. Also, the price isn't any great deterrent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: rmendis on Wed, 25 January 2017, 21:16:17
Should we wait for the MOD switch option to be added to that form? Currently that's the only reason I haven't ordered.

And, if we already used the form, can we change it after when the mod switch options are added?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: quadcube on Wed, 25 January 2017, 21:34:30
I may have missed this, but does anyone know if the underglow LED is white only, or RGB configurable?
Thanks
RGB are configurable by using BootMapper. Standard win keyless firmware
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: nocturalowl on Wed, 25 January 2017, 22:03:29
Should we wait for the MOD switch option to be added to that form? Currently that's the only reason I haven't ordered.

And, if we already used the form, can we change it after when the mod switch options are added?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I noticed after filling the form, you can edit the form before they close the form   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: [Lewynlight] on Wed, 25 January 2017, 22:27:12
juahenza, just to confirm, we can submit the order now and pay in Feb? (Payment deadline 28th February 2016)

January has already been devastating on my wallet so an extra few weeks to come up with the money would be super helpful, and it also sounds like there will be the option of adding MOD switches (which are not currently on the order form.)

+1. this two month as been really bad bad bad for my wallet  :))

how is GMK gonna support those split-spacebar layouts? hmmm???

remember GMK Carbon add-onds on massdrop? I guess GMK will use that as a base for supporting this split space bar layout.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yookwh on Wed, 25 January 2017, 22:37:07
Is it just me, or is the colored plate (Black, silver, blue, pink, etc.) a bit transparent?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: loud_asian on Wed, 25 January 2017, 22:46:19
Is it just me, or is the colored plate (Black, silver, blue, pink, etc.) a bit transparent?

probably a result of the photoshopping
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: ntw on Wed, 25 January 2017, 22:58:56
Is it just me, or is the colored plate (Black, silver, blue, pink, etc.) a bit transparent?

because the plate is made out of acrylic?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: tuantruong on Wed, 25 January 2017, 23:37:09
Is silver the only option for aluminum plate? want to get a full black combo tho.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: GreyAmbience on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:38:20
Can we buy more than one?

Can the under-light shine through if we get the metal bottom?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: GreyAmbience on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:39:55
I also want to buy both the poly bottom and the metal bottom, is that possible?

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: catweewee on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:46:32
Can we buy more than one?

Can the under-light shine through if we get the metal bottom?

No it cannot, and yes you can buy more than one
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: kacase on Thu, 26 January 2017, 03:52:12
Lots of awesome group buys this month.

M65-A
M67-A aka. Exent
GMK >Terminal_

I couldn't resist entering them all.

I am also curious of the grey colour. In the pohotoshopped render it almost looks like an "off-black" which i quite like.

Is there any possibility to get a photo of some anodizing samples, so we can make sure our colour decisions are well-founded? Or will we need to trust our instincts on that one and get a surprise?  ;D

Anyways this year is a great year for the mk community of which I am really happy to be a part of.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gaunt on Thu, 26 January 2017, 04:45:34
With  MOD switches being added as an option now, is there any chance Rose Gold will be a choice in the future? It was the colour I was most excited about, and it seemed some people on reddit were also planning to go for that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 04:52:51
Who is this?  :eek:

(http://i.imgur.com/iC0vUlX.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 26 January 2017, 05:00:46
Who is this?  :eek:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iC0vUlX.jpg)


So handsome~
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: joey on Thu, 26 January 2017, 05:12:30
Who is this?  :eek:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iC0vUlX.jpg)

.. who is it?

I think it might be juan, but not sure
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: GreyAmbience on Thu, 26 January 2017, 06:09:40
How can we order extra parts?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 06:11:38
How can we order extra parts?
Have you tried the google form? Hmm
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Data on Thu, 26 January 2017, 06:12:31
How can we order extra parts?

Dude, have you looked at the order form?  All your questions are answered within.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: GreyAmbience on Thu, 26 January 2017, 06:13:07
How can we order extra parts?
Have you tried the google form? Hmm

Oh sorry, I'm stupid, looks like it's all there :D 

I was just afraid to press "next" because I might want to change the color later on
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 06:50:57
How can we order extra parts?
Have you tried the google form? Hmm

Oh sorry, I'm stupid, looks like it's all there :D 

I was just afraid to press "next" because I might want to change the color later on
No worries mate, you can always edit your submission.
Juahenza has enabled that in the google form.
Peace.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Moderate on Thu, 26 January 2017, 07:01:14
I also want to buy both the poly bottom and the metal bottom, is that possible?



Yep, if you check through the form you can add an additional poly or metal bottom to your original order.

Can we buy more than one?

Can the under-light shine through if we get the metal bottom?

I suppose you could just fill out the form multiple times? Might have to wait for an official answer on whether they'll ignore multiples or not.

Also quite certain the underglow won't be visible with the metal bottom installed. At best it'll slightly shine in the gaps between the body and bottom.

**Edit: oops, I totally didn't load all the posts since then hahah. Sorry.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Thu, 26 January 2017, 07:33:51
So I picked up the prototype from the factory a week ago. It was an exciting moment for me to finally place my hand on the fruits of labors from many people.

After assembling the EXENT, I compared it with other custom keyboards I have. The machining for the EXENT is programmed in a way that all curves and sides from the design are translated perfectly into the end product. The anodizing is also done with such perfection that I think its on par as the Dolphin and even better than my 360C.

Typing on the EXENT feels way premium than it costs. The aesthetics of the keyboard was designed to look classy and outstanding from the current line of keyboards available in the market.

There was a major concerns from the team regarding the stability of the keyboard. We were worried that the sides will tilt too easily. It turns out the combination of aluminium top, polycarbonate bottom and stainless steel feet give enough weight to the keyboard that it is stable as a rock.

Another concern was the thick bezels on the EXENT. Its a homage to the vintage apple keyboards styling but we were worried that its won't get enough appreciation from the community. The bezels doesn't affect the usability at all but gives a rather comforting resting space for your palms. I thought I was the weird one out to be typing this way, but turns out yuktsi enjoyed the extra palm resting spot on the keyboard too. I am now sure that the bezels are working out aesthetically and practicality.

Overall I felt that EXENT not only feels like a premium custom keyboard with a an statement. Its clean and unique design will look like an art piece on your desk. But who am I to judge, right?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 07:46:11
So I picked up the prototype from the factory a week ago. It was an exciting moment for me to finally place my hand on the fruits of labors from many people.

After assembling the EXENT, I compared it with other custom keyboards I have. The machining for the EXENT is programmed in a way that all curves and sides from the design are translated perfectly into the end product. The anodizing is also done with such perfection that I think its on par as the Dolphin and even better than my 360C.

Typing on the EXENT feels way premium than it costs. The aesthetics of the keyboard was designed to look classy and outstanding from the current line of keyboards available in the market.

There was a major concerns from the team regarding the stability of the keyboard. We were worried that the sides will tilt too easily. It turns out the combination of aluminium top, polycarbonate bottom and stainless steel feet give enough weight to the keyboard that it is stable as a rock.

Another concern was the thick bezels on the EXENT. Its a homage to the vintage apple keyboards styling but we were worried that its won't get enough appreciation from the community. The bezels doesn't affect the usability at all but gives a rather comforting resting space for your palms. I thought I was the weird one out to be typing this way, but turns out yuktsi enjoyed the extra palm resting spot on the keyboard too. I am now sure that the bezels are working out aesthetically and practicality.

Overall I felt that EXENT not only feels like a premium custom keyboard with a an statement. Its clean and unique design will look like an art piece on your desk. But who am I to judge, right?
You are the boss! Seriously, the assembly could have been better if you didn't use those mx grey.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: kennyk64 on Thu, 26 January 2017, 08:32:21
Can I still edit my previous submitted form?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 26 January 2017, 09:02:13
Can I still edit my previous submitted form?

I dunno, can you?

No worries mate, you can always edit your submission.
Juahenza has enabled that in the google form.
Peace.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 09:57:49
Can I still edit my previous submitted form?

I dunno, can you?

No worries mate, you can always edit your submission.
Juahenza has enabled that in the google form.
Peace.
I can?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:13:19
I submitted two separate forms on the same browser (since I am getting two boards) is there going to be a spreadsheet or something where we can confirm our order contents, particularly anyone who has submitted more than one form?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: luumii on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:28:26
This seriously looks amazing. Quite unique of a design
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:36:04
I can?

He can. Point was he would've known if he'd have scrolled up a couple posts haha
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:36:27
Still trying to decide on a color  :-\
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:42:19
Still trying to decide on a color  :-\

That's when you get two  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: cynviloq on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:49:53
Can I still edit my previous submitted form?

I dunno, can you?

No worries mate, you can always edit your submission.
Juahenza has enabled that in the google form.
Peace.
I can?

Is there a process to re-access the form we've submitted?

I would like to make some changes, but I receive a new form when I click the link and I don't have a history of my submitted form under Google Forms.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: jal on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:50:11
I can?

He can. Point was he would've known if he'd have scrolled up a couple posts haha

FTR, I can't. I filled out the form yesterday, wanted to edit, and only get a new (blank) form.

Edit: Doh. Ninja'ed by a few seconds.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: robbles on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:51:58
Still trying to decide on a color  :-\

Same. I'm surprised there aren't any Rama sytle renders of the different colors. It would make it a lot easier to pick and make the post look more legit.

Can someone convince me on the GMK set? I've never used or owned one but I have an Enjoy PBT black blank set that I'd put on instead.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: kitchenace13 on Thu, 26 January 2017, 10:56:04

Can someone convince me on the GMK set? I've never used or owned one but I have an Enjoy PBT black blank set that I'd put on instead.
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I quite like GMK even it is ABS material its quite solid and well engineered.  Just so you know, if you buy the GMK set and decide you don't want it later I'm pretty sure it could easily be sold to someone who would give it a loving home (i.e., reddit.com/r/mechmarket)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:06:39
FTR, I can't. I filled out the form yesterday, wanted to edit, and only get a new (blank) form.

Edit: Doh. Ninja'ed by a few seconds.

Uh oh. Must be something finnicky with it then, I can edit it at least, might have to do when the original form was received.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:25:35
I quite like GMK even it is ABS material its quite solid and well engineered.  Just so you know, if you buy the GMK set and decide you don't want it later I'm pretty sure it could easily be sold to someone who would give it a loving home (i.e., reddit.com/r/mechmarket)

Definitely this! It's a great price for the set and if you don't want it, I guarantee someone else will.

Welp, submitted the order
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:34:59
Black or Silver?!  BLACK OR SILVER!??!   :confused:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:48:11
Keycaps black? Or more greyish like they appear in the renders?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:49:45
Keycaps black? Or more greyish like they appear in the renders?

Those aren't renders, they're pictures of the black prototype with an enjoypbt set, photoshopped to show different case colors.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 11:53:35
Black or Silver?!  BLACK OR SILVER!??!   :confused:
why not both since you can't decide now? Just give one to your friend later.
$360 for two TKL sized boards, that's...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 26 January 2017, 12:10:37
Black or Silver?!  BLACK OR SILVER!??!   :confused:

Grey!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 26 January 2017, 12:18:38
Black or Silver?!  BLACK OR SILVER!??!   :confused:
why not both since you can't decide now? Just give one to your friend later.
$360 for two TKL sized boards, that's...

Do you mean $400? (+ shipping).  Each of these is now $200 at the minimum.
. . .

I agree that some clarifications on color and finish should be made: specifically the photoshopped versions look like the finish will be a very matte kind (sort of like dark gray KMAC2).  Is it going to be semi-gloss?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 26 January 2017, 12:51:43
Black or Silver?!  BLACK OR SILVER!??!   :confused:

Grey!

Oh man. I know.   :'(  Does anyone know if the aluminum bottom plate will allow shine through?  I definitely want an aluminum bottom plate, but am considering adding on a polycarbonate.  If there's shine-through on the aluminum, I'll just go with that.  Thanks all!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 26 January 2017, 12:59:09
Who is this?  :eek:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iC0vUlX.jpg)


So handsome~

More like Han Some :)

Black or Silver?!  BLACK OR SILVER!??!   :confused:

Grey!

Oh man. I know.   :'(  Does anyone know if the aluminum bottom plate will allow shine through?  I definitely want an aluminum bottom plate, but am considering adding on a polycarbonate.  If there's shine-through on the aluminum, I'll just go with that.  Thanks all!

The aluminum bottom would not allow shine through.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: jal on Thu, 26 January 2017, 14:39:46
The aluminum bottom would not allow shine through.

Depends on how bright your light is.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 26 January 2017, 14:41:58
Oh man. I know.   :'(  Does anyone know if the aluminum bottom plate will allow shine through?  I definitely want an aluminum bottom plate, but am considering adding on a polycarbonate.  If there's shine-through on the aluminum, I'll just go with that.  Thanks all!

The aluminum bottom would not allow shine through.

You could drill holes into it  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 26 January 2017, 15:26:11
EDIT: juahenza has start an FAQ on the second comment of this thread. All future questions will likely be addressed, answered, and updated there instead of this comment.

Figured I'd update (and rearrange) the question list that rmendis started. Anything in brackets are my notes. I'll try to keep this comment updated when answers are posted and I get spare time.

ANSWERED QUESTIONS:

1. How long will the GB be open for and when is payment due?
I've seen this question a few times. Answer is at the bottom of the original post, under "Project Timeline".

2. MOD switches?
Form has been update. MOD-L and MOD-M are available now for +$40.

3. Factory Assembly?
No, new manufacturer doesn't seem to offer it.

4. ETA for GMK render?
No ETA. Sherryton/the team will keep us informed as details develop.

5. What extra keys will the GMK set come with? I'm mostly curious about R2 Delete key and R3 Control.
Only an ISO enter has been confirmed. [I would expect more keys, but we'll have to wait on the renders from GMK]

6. What kind of stabilizers will be included? When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout?
In the order form you can choose PCB Mount or Screw In. [no answer to second half of question]

7. Is underglow LED configurable and RGB?
Yes, through BootMapper Client winkeyless.

8. How do we order two boards?
You can now submit another order form. Might have to pay a second shipping charge though; try asking about that in the Note section on page 3 or contact jau.

9. Will we have a chance to edit our information before the GB closes? If we already used the form, can we change it?
Kind of. People are having mixed results doing so. Seems like if you order more than one or wait a while before trying to edit it, you are unable to.

10. What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80'?
Its an option for them to declare the package as being valued under $80. This can help people dodge some custom taxes and stuff, though has some small risks. Typically not necessary for USA residents.

11. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?
8 degrees

12. Will the GMK set in the Premium kit support the split spacebar layout?
Yes

13. Will the GMK set ever be sold seperately, like on the Originative store?
No

14. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference? Does one let the LED light shine through more than the other?
You can see the difference but the options are for people who want to try a different typing feel. Brass is denser than steel but not as hard. It has nothing to do with the LED, though the silver anodized aluminum plate is more reflective.

UNANSWERED QUESTIONS (6):

1. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?

2. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference? Does one let the LED light shine through more than the other?

3. When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout? Are these extras standard or screw-in?

4. What brand are the stabilizers?

5. How dark is the grey finish? The photoshop example looks more black that it does dark-silver.
? [speculated that the finish will look more like this http://i.imgur.com/liwOndP.png]

6. Will the GMK set in the Premium kit support the split spacebar layout?

7. Will the GMK set ever be sold seperately, like on the Originative store?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 26 January 2017, 15:30:22
Any chance the GMK keyset will be available on it's own? Maybe on Originativeco.com?   ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: swimmingbird on Thu, 26 January 2017, 17:11:32
Sorry if it has been mentioned previously but is there a weight estimate for the board with the alu lower?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 26 January 2017, 17:28:07
Sorry if it has been mentioned previously but is there a weight estimate for the board with the alu lower?

Weight in the original post is listed as 1.6kg (3.5lbs). Not sure what lower that's with, but I'm assuming poly. Aluminum is pretty light, so I doubt the aluminum lower would add too much weight.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gnarlsagan on Thu, 26 January 2017, 17:46:28
So what color do you guys think will look best with SA Oblivion? I'm thinking black or blue, but that dark grey is tempting.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 26 January 2017, 17:49:03
So what color do you guys think will look best with SA Oblivion? I'm thinking black or blue, but that dark grey is tempting.

I'd definitely say either black or blue. My vote would be on black. It's more future-proof if you want to try other keysets too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: kennyk64 on Thu, 26 January 2017, 18:20:55
I can?

He can. Point was he would've known if he'd have scrolled up a couple posts haha

I know that you can edit after you submit, there is an option for that but I have closed the tab. Not sure if filling in the from again will make it as if I am ordering additional keyboard or just editing my previous order.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: japanitrat on Thu, 26 January 2017, 18:28:42
So what color do you guys think will look best with SA Oblivion? I'm thinking black or blue, but that dark grey is tempting.

Planning for Oblivion is an odd thought given that it's most likely going to land next year. Plenty of other boards in between.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gnarlsagan on Thu, 26 January 2017, 18:43:58
So what color do you guys think will look best with SA Oblivion? I'm thinking black or blue, but that dark grey is tempting.

Planning for Oblivion is an odd thought given that it's most likely going to land next year. Plenty of other boards in between.

Signing up for Round 6 in 2015 has made me a very patient man. Anyway I'm kind of planning for end-game retirement. Probably won't ever happen lol.

But yes I'm thinking black and blue are good options. I really hope blue ends up looking like the render.

I can imagine Dasher/Dancer would look amazing on the grey or silver.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: cynviloq on Thu, 26 January 2017, 22:17:08
juahenza - how would you prefer those who wanted to edit their forms but are unable to, to proceed? Should we just fill out a new form?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 26 January 2017, 22:30:47
juahenza - how would you prefer those who wanted to edit their forms but are unable to, to proceed? Should we just fill out a new form?
Just fill a new form and put a remark at the note section.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: cynviloq on Thu, 26 January 2017, 22:55:01
juahenza - how would you prefer those who wanted to edit their forms but are unable to, to proceed? Should we just fill out a new form?
Just fill a new form and put a remark at the note section.

Thanks yuktsi
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gnarlsagan on Thu, 26 January 2017, 23:05:12
Is it possible to buy just an extra top plate?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Thu, 26 January 2017, 23:21:56
Is it possible to buy just an extra top plate?
Sorry, I am afraid that is not possible.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Thu, 26 January 2017, 23:38:39
Figured I'd update (and rearrange) the question list that rmendis started. Anything in brackets are my notes. I'll try to keep this comment updated when answers are posted and I get spare time.

More
ANSWERED QUESTIONS:

1. How long will the GB be open for and when is payment due?
I've seen this question a few times. Answer is at the bottom of the original post, under "Project Timeline".

2. MOD switches?
Form has been update. MOD-L and MOD-M are available now for +$40.

3. Factory Assembly?
No, new manufacturer doesn't seem to offer it.

4. ETA for GMK render?
No ETA. Sherryton/the team will keep us informed as details develop.

5. What extra keys will the GMK set come with? I'm mostly curious about R2 Delete key and R3 Control.
Only an ISO enter has been confirmed. [I would expect more keys, but we'll have to wait on the renders from GMK]

6. What kind of stabilizers will be included? When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout?
In the order form you can choose PCB Mount or Screw In. [no answer to second half of question]

7. Is underglow LED configurable and RGB?
Yes, through BootMapper Client winkeyless.

8. How do we order two boards?
You can now submit another order form. Might have to pay a second shipping charge though; try asking about that in the Note section on page 3 or contact jau.

9. Will we have a chance to edit our information before the GB closes? If we already used the form, can we change it?
Kind of. People are having mixed results doing so. Seems like if you order more than one or wait a while before trying to edit it, you are unable to.

10. What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80'?
Its an option for them to declare the package as being valued under $80. This can help people dodge some custom taxes and stuff, though has some small risks. Typically not necessary for USA residents.

UNANSWERED QUESTIONS (6):

1. What feet are those on the engineering sample? 8 or 12 degrees?

2. Can we see a difference between the plates or is it just a weight difference? Does one let the LED light shine through more than the other?

3. When ordering additional stabilizers on page 2, does 1 set include all stabilizers needed for standard layout? Are these extras standard or screw-in?

4. What brand are the stabilizers?

5. How dark is the grey finish? The photoshop example looks more black that it does dark-silver.
? [speculated that the finish will look more like this http://i.imgur.com/liwOndP.png]

6. Will the GMK set in the Premium kit support the split spacebar layout?

7. Will the GMK set ever be sold seperately, like on the Originative store?
Thank you for the effort. I've updated the second post of this GB thread with FAQ based on your compilation. Will update that from time to time.

I think we will all be pretty busy for the next few days because of Chinese New Year :(
You all may refer to the FAQ if your have any questions and we didn't reply.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 27 January 2017, 11:34:07
Who is this?  :eek:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iC0vUlX.jpg)


So handsome~

More like Han Some :)

Black or Silver?!  BLACK OR SILVER!??!   :confused:

Grey!

Oh man. I know.   :'(  Does anyone know if the aluminum bottom plate will allow shine through?  I definitely want an aluminum bottom plate, but am considering adding on a polycarbonate.  If there's shine-through on the aluminum, I'll just go with that.  Thanks all!

The aluminum bottom would not allow shine through.

Thanks Sherry!  Time to submit!  Yay!   :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: robbles on Fri, 27 January 2017, 18:32:01
Deciding between 8deg and 12deg feet. Could somebody provide a comparison for reference? I typically use all keyboards with the feet engaged and my daily driver is an HHKB using the tallest feet. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 27 January 2017, 19:52:01
Deciding between 8deg and 12deg feet. Could somebody provide a comparison for reference? I typically use all keyboards with the feet engaged and my daily driver is an HHKB using the tallest feet. Thanks!
12 deg is for you then  :-*
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PoisonKing on Fri, 27 January 2017, 21:14:35
The gray case, what color is it in real life? Blackish gray, bluish gray, purplish gray. or dolch-ish gray?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 28 January 2017, 02:59:41
The gray case, what color is it in real life? Blackish gray, bluish gray, purplish gray. or dolch-ish gray?
blackish grey
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: poolside on Sat, 28 January 2017, 03:26:34
Are the only layouts the ones seen on the layout image? Can we expect three 1u keys (as shown on the prototype) instead of the two 1.5u keys on the bottom row?
I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in the IC thread that 3 1u would be supported, don't remember exactly where though. It was one of the first pages though.

edit: found it https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86815.msg2336146#msg2336146

FAQ
5. What extra keys will the GMK set come with?
The keys shown in the existing render + 4 keys for ISO + 3 keys for split spacebar.

So, the board will have a bottom row option for 3x 1u between the spacebar and the arrow cluster (as shown in the prototype pictures), but the GMK keyset won't?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Jedi on Sat, 28 January 2017, 12:00:09
Any option for Mod H switches? 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: doooostin on Sat, 28 January 2017, 13:50:50
Will these be holtite compatible? For LEDs and switches?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 28 January 2017, 15:33:42
I have two questions, one dumb on and one technical one:

1. I'm a total n00b: what three keys would I need to achieve the split spacebar? 3u, 2u, and 1.25u? Or 2.75u, 2u, and 1.5u? Something else entire?

2. Since this is based on ps2avrGB firmware and Bootmapper GUI, what keymap would I use if I'm following this tutorial http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183? keymap_gb_B87(EX).hex? Or will the keyboard have it's own keymap and instructions that will be published for us to reference?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 28 January 2017, 15:42:15
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sat, 28 January 2017, 15:48:16
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...
Grey is better




Sent from my microwave oven using alternating current

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: BaconEggandCheeseBagel on Sat, 28 January 2017, 16:21:22
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...
Grey is better




Sent from my microwave oven using alternating current


+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.


In other news - I'm worried my  order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Sat, 28 January 2017, 16:35:21
I have two questions, one dumb on and one technical one:

1. I'm a total n00b: what three keys would I need to achieve the split spacebar? 3u, 2u, and 1.25u? Or 2.75u, 2u, and 1.5u? Something else entire?

2. Since this is based on ps2avrGB firmware and Bootmapper GUI, what keymap would I use if I'm following this tutorial http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183? keymap_gb_B87(EX).hex? Or will the keyboard have it's own keymap and instructions that will be published for us to reference?

You need a 2.75 1.25 and 2.25. easy way to remember is that it adds to be the same as 6.25 spacebars.
If they don't release a new keymap then that one should be right
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 28 January 2017, 16:39:44

You need a 2.75 1.25 and 2.25. easy was to remember is that it adds to be the same as 6.25 spacebars.
If they don't release a new keymap then that one should be right

Perfect, thanks! I figured it would add up to 6.25, but I was having difficulty with the math. I've never built a keyboard or attempted something this custom After seeing that 3u keys practically don't exist I knew that guess was out of the question haha.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 28 January 2017, 17:18:39
In other news - I'm worried my  order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?

If it did you should be at a page that looks like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/DciqxuH.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gnarlsagan on Sat, 28 January 2017, 17:20:18
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...
Grey is better




Sent from my microwave oven using alternating current


+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.


In other news - I'm worried my  order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?

What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dr-slump on Sat, 28 January 2017, 18:11:49
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...
Grey is better




Sent from my microwave oven using alternating current


+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.


In other news - I'm worried my  order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?

What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?


MiTo Canvas or Granite
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: BaconEggandCheeseBagel on Sat, 28 January 2017, 19:46:58
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...
Grey is better




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+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.


In other news - I'm worried my  order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?

What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?


MiTo Canvas or Granite


Mito Canvas here.

Big decision is what kind of switches. Deciding between Gat Blues v. Aristotle v. Vintage Blues w/ spring swaps...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gnarlsagan on Sat, 28 January 2017, 19:59:25
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...
Grey is better




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+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.


In other news - I'm worried my  order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?

What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?


MiTo Canvas or Granite


Mito Canvas here.

Big decision is what kind of switches. Deciding between Gat Blues v. Aristotle v. Vintage Blues w/ spring swaps...

Damn Canvas will match the grey top plate really well. I'm super tempted to get the grey also, but I think Penumbra and/or Round 6 will go better with black or blue.

Have you typed on Aristotles? To my ears they just have a more satisfying click than blues, and those deeper clicks give me a more retro vibe. They are currently my favorite switch, but I'm thinking the Fosens have a chance to knock them out of the running.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 29 January 2017, 00:17:08
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...
Grey is better




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+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.


In other news - I'm worried my  order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?

What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?
GMK Honeywell

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: six_chains on Sun, 29 January 2017, 13:16:12
reserved. ;]
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: funis21 on Sun, 29 January 2017, 13:33:58
The brass switchplate, will it sound more deeper/thockier than aluminum?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: smittysteve on Mon, 30 January 2017, 00:10:02
The more I look at this the more I like it. The unique big bezels... it's unlike anything else out here and I can see it taking a solid place in the rotation. There are an ungodly amount of boards dropping now, obviously. But I need an Exent in my life.

Now... what color...? Agree with those mentioning the black and grey just look so solid and industrial. But, going with my gut, I'm leaning pink. Hmmm.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: fancymans on Mon, 30 January 2017, 01:11:20
The more I look at this the more I like it. The unique big bezels... it's unlike anything else out here and I can see it taking a solid place in the rotation. There are an ungodly amount of boards dropping now, obviously. But I need an Exent in my life.

Now... what color...? Agree with those mentioning the black and grey just look so solid and industrial. But, going with my gut, I'm leaning pink. Hmmm.

If you want something bold and different, I think pink is the right decision.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Marvellion on Mon, 30 January 2017, 01:24:39
I really want that aluminum bottom, but also want grey color. Wish alu bottom had matching colors. Choices ugh.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gnarlsagan on Mon, 30 January 2017, 01:55:36
The more I look at this the more I like it. The unique big bezels... it's unlike anything else out here and I can see it taking a solid place in the rotation. There are an ungodly amount of boards dropping now, obviously. But I need an Exent in my life.

Now... what color...? Agree with those mentioning the black and grey just look so solid and industrial. But, going with my gut, I'm leaning pink. Hmmm.

Wow just realized how amazing GMK Lazer would look on the pink Exent: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85585.0

I feel like I'm gonna have to buy one in every color.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 30 January 2017, 03:59:08
The gray case, what color is it in real life? Blackish gray, bluish gray, purplish gray. or dolch-ish gray?
blackish grey

Do you guys have a sample? I am really torn between black/grey/silver. I assume the pics in OP are just renders?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Mon, 30 January 2017, 04:05:34
The gray case, what color is it in real life? Blackish gray, bluish gray, purplish gray. or dolch-ish gray?
blackish grey

Do you guys have a sample? I am really torn between black/grey/silver. I assume the pics in OP are just renders?
I believe so. They are more accurate in representing the actual color than small anodized piece. I think.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: quadcube on Mon, 30 January 2017, 05:12:37
I have two questions, one dumb on and one technical one:

1. I'm a total n00b: what three keys would I need to achieve the split spacebar? 3u, 2u, and 1.25u? Or 2.75u, 2u, and 1.5u? Something else entire?

2. Since this is based on ps2avrGB firmware and Bootmapper GUI, what keymap would I use if I'm following this tutorial http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183? keymap_gb_B87(EX).hex? Or will the keyboard have it's own keymap and instructions that will be published for us to reference?
the keymap will be provided for the PCB and it has its own set of instructions (how to enter boot loader mode).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: smittysteve on Mon, 30 January 2017, 05:23:26
The more I look at this the more I like it. The unique big bezels... it's unlike anything else out here and I can see it taking a solid place in the rotation. There are an ungodly amount of boards dropping now, obviously. But I need an Exent in my life.

Now... what color...? Agree with those mentioning the black and grey just look so solid and industrial. But, going with my gut, I'm leaning pink. Hmmm.

Wow just realized how amazing GMK Lazer would look on the pink Exent: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85585.0

I feel like I'm gonna have to buy one in every color.

Wow, great call… I've been keeping an eye on Laser for a while now, love the look of it. And you're right, a pink Exent with Laser would be absolutely mind blowing!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: BaconEggandCheeseBagel on Mon, 30 January 2017, 21:48:43
So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...
Grey is better




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+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.


In other news - I'm worried my  order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?

What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?


MiTo Canvas or Granite


Mito Canvas here.

Big decision is what kind of switches. Deciding between Gat Blues v. Aristotle v. Vintage Blues w/ spring swaps...

Damn Canvas will match the grey top plate really well. I'm super tempted to get the grey also, but I think Penumbra and/or Round 6 will go better with black or blue.

Have you typed on Aristotles? To my ears they just have a more satisfying click than blues, and those deeper clicks give me a more retro vibe. They are currently my favorite switch, but I'm thinking the Fosens have a chance to knock them out of the running.

So I ended up going with the Black, but really uncertain, thinking I should get the Grey. I can't afford both. So torn...
Grey is better




Sent from my microwave oven using alternating current


+ 1 - Totally agree. I was deciding between both of these. I'd actually love a colorway that was more beige and consistent with the apple keyboards this project is attempting to emulate, but I think the grey has that Industrial IBM look that feels new but still has a nice retro vibe to it.


In other news - I'm worried my  order didn't go through, should I reorder or is there a way to check if the form went through?

What keyset are you guys looking to put on the grey Exent?


MiTo Canvas or Granite


Mito Canvas here.

Big decision is what kind of switches. Deciding between Gat Blues v. Aristotle v. Vintage Blues w/ spring swaps...

Damn Canvas will match the grey top plate really well. I'm super tempted to get the grey also, but I think Penumbra and/or Round 6 will go better with black or blue.

Have you typed on Aristotles? To my ears they just have a more satisfying click than blues, and those deeper clicks give me a more retro vibe. They are currently my favorite switch, but I'm thinking the Fosens have a chance to knock them out of the running.

Haven't typed on them yet, but I think it's my next switch. Didn't think about the Fosens, but maybe I'll consider those instead.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Slash Emperor on Mon, 30 January 2017, 21:58:33

Have you typed on Aristotles? To my ears they just have a more satisfying click than blues, and those deeper clicks give me a more retro vibe. They are currently my favorite switch, but I'm thinking the Fosens have a chance to knock them out of the running.

Haven't typed on them yet, but I think it's my next switch. Didn't think about the Fosens, but maybe I'll consider those instead.

Just finished my first Gatistotle build (Aristotle stems+Gat Black housings+67g gold springs) on a carbon fiber plate, and while it is my first clicky build, I love the sound! Definitely worth a shot if you want to try building something clicky and don't mind putting in the time to mod the switches.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Data on Tue, 31 January 2017, 06:37:12
I know the payment deadline isn't until 28 Feb, but when should we expect to be invoiced?  I'd rather pay sooner than later.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Asbrodeus on Tue, 31 January 2017, 06:57:37
The more I look at this the more I like it. The unique big bezels... it's unlike anything else out here and I can see it taking a solid place in the rotation. There are an ungodly amount of boards dropping now, obviously. But I need an Exent in my life.

Now... what color...? Agree with those mentioning the black and grey just look so solid and industrial. But, going with my gut, I'm leaning pink. Hmmm.

Wow just realized how amazing GMK Lazer would look on the pink Exent: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85585.0

I feel like I'm gonna have to buy one in every color.

fuuuuuuh why'd you have to mention that? Now I want that combo too  :'(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dr_derivative on Tue, 31 January 2017, 09:21:46
I really can't decide whether to enter this or not.  :-\

If I'd known this was coming I would've gotten the speciality kit with SA Dasher so I could use them together. Now I would need to buy a keyboard for Dasher and a keyset for this.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: msilvv on Tue, 31 January 2017, 10:02:30
I really can't decide whether to enter this or not.  :-\

If I'd known this was coming I would've gotten the speciality kit with SA Dasher so I could use them together. Now I would need to buy a keyboard for Dasher and a keyset for this.
I'd just wait and try to nab a dasher specialty set on r/mechmarket after it drops.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Omnipotent on Tue, 31 January 2017, 12:57:46
Cancelled my TADA68 so I'm in for the Black. You all bring up some good points though. There are so many good keycap sets that go with these colors. I feel like I'm going to need to buy more than one, haha.  :p
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: FLOCKA on Tue, 31 January 2017, 17:26:19
I really can't decide whether to enter this or not.  :-\

If I'd known this was coming I would've gotten the speciality kit with SA Dasher so I could use them together. Now I would need to buy a keyboard for Dasher and a keyset for this.

Dasher should be fairly easy to find on mechmarket... Over 1200 TKL sets sold, so there are bound to be people who change their minds between now and July  :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: BaconEggandCheeseBagel on Tue, 31 January 2017, 20:31:43
I doubt this is at all possible, but is there any chance of getting a beige colorway for the anodization? Or are things set as they are? I think quite a few people would be interested...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: six_chains on Tue, 31 January 2017, 21:24:25
I doubt this is at all possible, but is there any chance of getting a beige colorway for the anodization? Or are things set as they are? I think quite a few people would be interested...

I'd definitely be interested, but I think its a little late at this stage m8.

*sidenote: is hyperfuse overkill on this?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gnarlsagan on Wed, 01 February 2017, 00:07:43
I doubt this is at all possible, but is there any chance of getting a beige colorway for the anodization? Or are things set as they are? I think quite a few people would be interested...

I'd definitely be interested, but I think its a little late at this stage m8.

*sidenote: is hyperfuse overkill on this?

Hyperfuse is not at all overkill. GMK or SA and what color Exent?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: ntw on Wed, 01 February 2017, 04:18:06
Is it possible to buy just an extra top plate?

you can, for the price of $180. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 01 February 2017, 08:15:06
*sidenote: is hyperfuse overkill on this?

The board itself is overkill (or rather the bezels are, in a fantastic and beautiful way of course). So I think you have freedom to go bold in any direction you want haha.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 01 February 2017, 12:20:06
I really can't decide whether to enter this or not.  :-\

If I'd known this was coming I would've gotten the speciality kit with SA Dasher so I could use them together. Now I would need to buy a keyboard for Dasher and a keyset for this.

I don't see this kind of collaboration or production happening that often.  I jumped aboard for the solid price and big ass bezel...  I knew I would kick myself if I didn't.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: jal on Wed, 01 February 2017, 16:11:53
*sidenote: is hyperfuse overkill on this?

This is not really a church board. I'm pretty sure that animatronic bobblehead-caps that sing _We Are The Champions_ at top volume wouldn't be overkill.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Data on Wed, 01 February 2017, 20:16:08
*sidenote: is hyperfuse overkill on this?

This is not really a church board. I'm pretty sure that animatronic bobblehead-caps that sing _We Are The Champions_ at top volume wouldn't be overkill.

Think I just found a new end game.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: six_chains on Thu, 02 February 2017, 00:41:26
*sidenote: is hyperfuse overkill on this?

This is not really a church board. I'm pretty sure that animatronic bobblehead-caps that sing _We Are The Champions_ at top volume wouldn't be overkill.

Think I just found a new end game.

haha. good point.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gaunt on Thu, 02 February 2017, 05:35:54
No chance rose gold will be re-considered as an option? I really like the Exent, but I'm not sold on the silver option (it looks a bit dull and industrial in the picture, imho).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: nsmechkb on Thu, 02 February 2017, 05:54:35
No chance rose gold will be re-considered as an option? I really like the Exent, but I'm not sold on the silver option (it looks a bit dull and industrial in the picture, imho).

I agree about the picture of the silver board, but I'm guessing it's because four of the five pictures are edited versions of the original, where the color has been altered.  I think the black is the original, and the other four are edited.  Maybe starting with black makes all of the other colors a little less vibrant?

I don't know, but I'm guessing silver will be closer to what we typically see in "silver" on other boards.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:25:35
No chance rose gold will be re-considered as an option? I really like the Exent, but I'm not sold on the silver option (it looks a bit dull and industrial in the picture, imho).

I agree about the picture of the silver board, but I'm guessing it's because four of the five pictures are edited versions of the original, where the color has been altered.  I think the black is the original, and the other four are edited.  Maybe starting with black makes all of the other colors a little less vibrant?

I don't know, but I'm guessing silver will be closer to what we typically see in "silver" on other boards.
They are meant to be a little more matte/dull than the conventional silver anodise we see.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Photoelectric on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:31:05
Matte of the KMAC2 style?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 02 February 2017, 08:46:53
Matte of the KMAC2 style?
kmac2 isn't really that matte. More LZ Iron kinda matte.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 02 February 2017, 09:05:29
No chance rose gold will be re-considered as an option? I really like the Exent, but I'm not sold on the silver option (it looks a bit dull and industrial in the picture, imho).

I was banking on rose gold for the EXENT, myself, since it was initially going to have that option and I committed to Hydro Blue instead of Rose Gold when I submitted my M65-A form (back when it was still a raffle instead of an open GB). Figured I'd get my rose gold fix with the EXENT to make up for it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 02 February 2017, 10:35:16
I was banking on rose gold for the EXENT, myself, since it was initially going to have that option and I committed to Hydro Blue instead of Rose Gold when I submitted my M65-A form (back when it was still a raffle instead of an open GB). Figured I'd get my rose gold fix with the EXENT to make up for it.

Oh no! Guess it's too late to edit your M65-A order? That really sucks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 02 February 2017, 12:03:35
I was banking on rose gold for the EXENT, myself, since it was initially going to have that option and I committed to Hydro Blue instead of Rose Gold when I submitted my M65-A form (back when it was still a raffle instead of an open GB). Figured I'd get my rose gold fix with the EXENT to make up for it.

Oh no! Guess it's too late to edit your M65-A order? That really sucks.

I don't want to give up the Hydro Blue. I initially did want to put in for two M65-As because I really wanted Hydro Blue and Rose Gold, but since it was back the the slots were limited and it was a raffle, it'd be real lousy of me to do that, so I picked just Hydro Blue for my submission. After the GB opened up to everyone, I decided to just keep it at 1 M65-A and get two EXENTs (black+rose gold), since I like the EXENT's design better and the sheer amount of collaboration on it made it worth getting two boards for me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PoisonHeadcrab on Thu, 02 February 2017, 12:34:07
I'm really interested in getting into this group buy, however as this would be my first custom keyboard GB if I commit, I have the following questions:

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 02 February 2017, 12:42:21
I'm really interested in getting into this group buy, however as this would be my first custom keyboard GB if I commit, I have the following questions:

  • If I order this keyboard with certain switches, say the MOD M which isn't that well known yet, how easy would it be to change them to something else if I don't like them or they break? Is it just a matter of desoldering them and soldering in different switches?
  • Regarding the bottom case type options, do they affect the underside lighting at all? Or can I only get underside lighting if I choose the sandblasted poly-carbonate option over the aluminum ones?
  • Also what's the difference between the standard and screw-in stabilizers and which ones should I get?

Light does not shine through aluminum and I'm not sure whether I will like the poly bottom, so I ordered both.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 02 February 2017, 12:54:35
I'm really interested in getting into this group buy, however as this would be my first custom keyboard GB if I commit, I have the following questions:

  • If I order this keyboard with certain switches, say the MOD M which isn't that well known yet, how easy would it be to change them to something else if I don't like them or they break? Is it just a matter of desoldering them and soldering in different switches?
  • Regarding the bottom case type options, do they affect the underside lighting at all? Or can I only get underside lighting if I choose the sandblasted poly-carbonate option over the aluminum ones?
  • Also what's the difference between the standard and screw-in stabilizers and which ones should I get?

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 02 February 2017, 13:32:32
Is there a way to review an already submitted order? I am considering pre-ordering a second board, but want to know, and can't remember, some of the options I chose the first time around
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 02 February 2017, 13:37:27
So the Exent is an aluminum keyboard, right? Excepting the polycarb base-plate thing. Is it machined aluminum?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: xondat on Thu, 02 February 2017, 13:49:28
So the Exent is an aluminum keyboard, right? Excepting the polycarb base-plate thing. Is it machined aluminum?
yes
yes
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 02 February 2017, 14:03:40
Is there a way to review an already submitted order? I am considering pre-ordering a second board, but want to know, and can't remember, some of the options I chose the first time around

Maybe try PMing juahenza?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 02 February 2017, 15:09:50
So the Exent is an aluminum keyboard, right? Excepting the polycarb base-plate thing. Is it machined aluminum?
yes
yes

Okay good. Wanted to make sure it wasn't cast. Def gonna join now.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dubious on Thu, 02 February 2017, 16:32:12
Just resubmitted my order, decided on grey instead of black.

Any chance we can get a teaser of the PCB, or more of the keycaps?  :-*
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 02 February 2017, 16:40:00
Just got refunded for a playing card project on Kickstarter for near $400, I have no excuse not to get a second one now so I can have Black AND Grey...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Thu, 02 February 2017, 16:42:01
Just got refunded for a playing card project on Kickstarter for near $400, I have no excuse not to get a second one now so I can have Black AND Grey...
What was it? Just wondering what would cost 400
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 02 February 2017, 16:47:02
Just got refunded for a playing card project on Kickstarter for near $400, I have no excuse not to get a second one now so I can have Black AND Grey...
What was it? Just wondering what would cost 400

This project https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1722808047/legal-tender-currency-inspired-playing-cards for the two legacy editions for each deck. I have been heavily collecting playing cards for years, this designer is one of the best in the community, but I am trying to move away from that collection
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Thu, 02 February 2017, 16:50:04

This project https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1722808047/legal-tender-currency-inspired-playing-cards for the two legacy editions for each deck. I have been heavily collecting playing cards for years, this designer is one of the best in the community, but I am trying to move away from that collection
Oh, these look pretty cool. I might try to get a set.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 02 February 2017, 17:12:48

This project https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1722808047/legal-tender-currency-inspired-playing-cards for the two legacy editions for each deck. I have been heavily collecting playing cards for years, this designer is one of the best in the community, but I am trying to move away from that collection
Oh, these look pretty cool. I might try to get a set.

Yeah, they're premium, some of the best cards you can get for your money.

So what is everyone's thoughts on stabalizers? Standard or screw in? And will the 8° and 12° feet be swappable? I assume they screw into the bottom housing?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gnarlsagan on Thu, 02 February 2017, 18:03:26
Yeah, they're premium, some of the best cards you can get for your money.

So what is everyone's thoughts on stabalizers? Standard or screw in?

Going screw-in since I've experienced standard stabs coming loose from the PCB when I'm removing a particularly stubborn keycap. Not common, and not that big of a deal, but hey might as well go for something that is going to stay put.

... Now in for black, blue, and pink. Please no one talk me into getting grey... Just realized though that Round 6 Space Cadet would look really really good on grey.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 03 February 2017, 08:19:50
... Now in for black, blue, and pink. Please no one talk me into getting grey... Just realized though that Round 6 Space Cadet would look really really good on grey.

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What's wrong with talking you into grey haha? It looks fantastic. I might be able to talk you out of it though if you can't resist the thought of it paired with Round 6: the grey of Round 6 Space Cadet keys might be just enough of a shade off compared to the grey board that it will clash a bit. If I wasn't going for grey I would go black. Color preference is purely personal tastes, but this is how the board colors fall in my book:

Black = Grey > Silver = Blue > Pink

I can't see myself ever going with the blue, but it looks very nice. Would definitely be a strong option for anyone looking for something a little more different. And pink just isn't my thing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 03 February 2017, 09:21:57
So the Exent is an aluminum keyboard, right? Excepting the polycarb base-plate thing. Is it machined aluminum?
yes
yes

Okay good. Wanted to make sure it wasn't cast. Def gonna join now.
All top/bottom case and the feet are CNC milled.
It's going to be expensive to have a mold made for casting, with such low quantity.
I think... Hehe
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 03 February 2017, 10:01:13
Updated!

(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: xondat on Fri, 03 February 2017, 10:05:21
Updated!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)

Oh :(

No 7u spacebar, stepped caps or 2.75u shift?

(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)

Edit: doesn't support the left side 1.5u keys too... I'm so confused at this choice.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 03 February 2017, 10:32:30
Updated!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)

Oh :(

No 7u spacebar, stepped caps or 2.75u shift?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)


Edit: doesn't support the left side 1.5u keys too... I'm so confused at this choice.
Ahhh.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 03 February 2017, 10:47:08
Updated!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)

Oh :(

No 7u spacebar, stepped caps or 2.75u shift?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)


Edit: doesn't support the left side 1.5u keys too... I'm so confused at this choice.
Hi there, we can't possibly offer all the keys in the supported layouts. The price of GMK keys are no secret, this is the best we can offer.

Btw bro, I couldn't find your order form submission in the google sheet. Do you mind filling the form again? Thank you =)


Edit: EXENT does support 1u 1u 1u 7u 1u 1u 1u 1u 1u 1u or 1.25u 1.25u 1.25u 6.25u 1u 1u 1u 1u 1u 1u for the bottom row too. I will update the supported layouts later.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: xondat on Fri, 03 February 2017, 10:52:09
Updated!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)

Oh :(

No 7u spacebar, stepped caps or 2.75u shift?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)


Edit: doesn't support the left side 1.5u keys too... I'm so confused at this choice.
Hi there, we can't possibly offer all the keys in the supported layouts. The price of GMK keys are no secret, this is the best we can offer.

Btw bro, I couldn't find your order form submission in the google sheet. Do you mind filling the form again? Thank you =)

 :'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gnarlsagan on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:02:25
:'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.

Good thing there are tons of keyset options out there. Originative Carbon black looks pretty similar.

... Now in for black, blue, and pink. Please no one talk me into getting grey... Just realized though that Round 6 Space Cadet would look really really good on grey.

(Attachment Link)

What's wrong with talking you into grey haha? It looks fantastic. I might be able to talk you out of it though if you can't resist the thought of it paired with Round 6: the grey of Round 6 Space Cadet keys might be just enough of a shade off compared to the grey board that it will clash a bit. If I wasn't going for grey I would go black. Color preference is purely personal tastes, but this is how the board colors fall in my book:

Black = Grey > Silver = Blue > Pink

I can't see myself ever going with the blue, but it looks very nice. Would definitely be a strong option for anyone looking for something a little more different. And pink just isn't my thing.

Because I'm already buying the black, blue, and pink lol. If I can sell a few boards I might jump on grey too. I was also never into colorful boards until I put GMK Skeletor on an electric blue LZ-RV. Once you get that one magical combo it's all over. For me it's probably gonna be GMK Laser with the pink Exent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:06:01
Updated!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)

Oh :(

No 7u spacebar, stepped caps or 2.75u shift?

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)


Edit: doesn't support the left side 1.5u keys too... I'm so confused at this choice.
Hi there, we can't possibly offer all the keys in the supported layouts. The price of GMK keys are no secret, this is the best we can offer.

Btw bro, I couldn't find your order form submission in the google sheet. Do you mind filling the form again? Thank you =)

 :'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.
Oh, that's a shame. I will definitely participate if any of your future XXX board comes with a keyset.
All the best my bro  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:08:42
:'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.

Good thing there are tons of keyset options out there. Originative Carbon black looks pretty similar.

... Now in for black, blue, and pink. Please no one talk me into getting grey... Just realized though that Round 6 Space Cadet would look really really good on grey.

(Attachment Link)

What's wrong with talking you into grey haha? It looks fantastic. I might be able to talk you out of it though if you can't resist the thought of it paired with Round 6: the grey of Round 6 Space Cadet keys might be just enough of a shade off compared to the grey board that it will clash a bit. If I wasn't going for grey I would go black. Color preference is purely personal tastes, but this is how the board colors fall in my book:

Black = Grey > Silver = Blue > Pink

I can't see myself ever going with the blue, but it looks very nice. Would definitely be a strong option for anyone looking for something a little more different. And pink just isn't my thing.

Because I'm already buying the black, blue, and pink lol. If I can sell a few boards I might jump on grey too. I was also never into colorful boards until I put GMK Skeletor on an electric blue LZ-RV. Once you get that one magical combo it's all over. For me it's probably gonna be GMK Laser with the pink Exent.
You are the best! I would love a pink board with GMK Laser, but my wife said I am too old for that :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:13:55
Still deciding on a color...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:17:20
Still deciding on a color...

When in doubt, black.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gnarlsagan on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:23:56
Still deciding on a color...

What's your favorite keyset? Gotta pick the color that matches.  ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:24:50
When in doubt, black.  :thumb:
The black does look really nice, but almost all my boards are black. Maybe that's just because it always looks good haha. :-\

What's your favorite keyset? Gotta pick the color that matches.  ;)

Well I am in GMK Soware and waiting on SA Oblivion, those would probably look good with silver or grey.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:28:44
Still deciding on a color...
Pink is love, pink is life
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:29:54
When in doubt, black.  :thumb:
The black does look really nice, but almost all my boards are black. Maybe that's just because it always looks good haha. :-\

What's your favorite keyset? Gotta pick the color that matches.  ;)

Well I am in GMK Soware and waiting on SA Oblivion, those would probably look good with silver or grey.

Same problem here.  I was thinking about getting grey or maybe silver but in the end I went back to the old favorite.  I have a couple other ideas that would look the best with black so that helped my choice.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Saiph on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:35:24
Still deciding on a color...
Pink is love, pink is life
I'm probably going to use this board at work and I'm not brave enough for pink in public. I'd take a pink TGR-910 though ;).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: xondat on Fri, 03 February 2017, 11:43:03
:'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.
Good thing there are tons of keyset options out there. Originative Carbon black looks pretty similar.
Not GMK though! Red accents are super tasteful too.

Oh, that's a shame. I will definitely participate if any of your future XXX board comes with a keyset.
All the best my bro  :thumb:
:-*
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 03 February 2017, 12:06:28
You are the best! I would love a pink board with GMK Laser, but my wife said I am too old for that :(

Reminds me of when I was a sugar daddy of a 20 year old stripper.  Everyone told me I was too old for that.  I refused to believe it.  She was super cute, made me feel young, we listened to the same music, and we had a lot of fun.  Then after a couple months, I realized, I was indeed too old for all that.  $30 on a pound of jelly beans, $70 of Lush bath supplies, $200 on some lingerie, late night calls to get a ride from a club across town...  What was I thinking?

Of course, I had a ton of fun, but it could never last...  So yeah, take warning.  If you want to have some fun for a few months as dude in your 30s, feel free.  Your pink laser lady might just not last much longer than that!

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 03 February 2017, 12:28:40
$30 on a pound of jelly beans, $70 of Lush bath supplies, $200 on some lingerie, late night calls to get a ride from a club across town...  What was I thinking?

So... I'm a straight, 30 year old guy.. But I've done worse for less... Just think about it  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: kiwi99 on Fri, 03 February 2017, 12:33:33
You are the best! I would love a pink board with GMK Laser, but my wife said I am too old for that :(

Reminds me of when I was a sugar daddy of a 20 year old stripper.  Everyone told me I was too old for that.  I refused to believe it.  She was super cute, made me feel young, we listened to the same music, and we had a lot of fun.  Then after a couple months, I realized, I was indeed too old for all that.  $30 on a pound of jelly beans, $70 of Lush bath supplies, $200 on some lingerie, late night calls to get a ride from a club across town...  What was I thinking?

Of course, I had a ton of fun, but it could never last...  So yeah, take warning.  If you want to have some fun for a few months as dude in your 30s, feel free.  Your pink laser lady might just not last much longer than that!

I mean, but did you sell your girl off to another 30 year old guy? cause juah could ez sell laser to someone else if he got tired of it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Data on Fri, 03 February 2017, 14:23:58
I know the payment deadline isn't until 28 Feb, but when should we expect to be invoiced?  I'd rather pay sooner than later.

Anybody?

I just want to make sure my order was received and I didn't somehow miss the invoice.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: fancymans on Fri, 03 February 2017, 16:01:12
I know the payment deadline isn't until 28 Feb, but when should we expect to be invoiced?  I'd rather pay sooner than later.

Anybody?

I just want to make sure my order was received and I didn't somehow miss the invoice.
I think invoicing after the submissions end will make sure it's more organized and allows people to make any changes to their order.
What would be more helpful is if we had a Google Sheet showing us our orders and options. :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 03 February 2017, 16:53:42
So the Exent is an aluminum keyboard, right? Excepting the polycarb base-plate thing. Is it machined aluminum?
yes
yes

Okay good. Wanted to make sure it wasn't cast. Def gonna join now.
All top/bottom case and the feet are CNC milled.
It's going to be expensive to have a mold made for casting, with such low quantity.
I think... Hehe

Hm interesting argument. I wouldn't buy it if it were cast anyway.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 03 February 2017, 18:07:01
:'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.

Good thing there are tons of keyset options out there. Originative Carbon black looks pretty similar.

... Now in for black, blue, and pink. Please no one talk me into getting grey... Just realized though that Round 6 Space Cadet would look really really good on grey.

(Attachment Link)

What's wrong with talking you into grey haha? It looks fantastic. I might be able to talk you out of it though if you can't resist the thought of it paired with Round 6: the grey of Round 6 Space Cadet keys might be just enough of a shade off compared to the grey board that it will clash a bit. If I wasn't going for grey I would go black. Color preference is purely personal tastes, but this is how the board colors fall in my book:

Black = Grey > Silver = Blue > Pink

I can't see myself ever going with the blue, but it looks very nice. Would definitely be a strong option for anyone looking for something a little more different. And pink just isn't my thing.

Because I'm already buying the black, blue, and pink lol. If I can sell a few boards I might jump on grey too. I was also never into colorful boards until I put GMK Skeletor on an electric blue LZ-RV. Once you get that one magical combo it's all over. For me it's probably gonna be GMK Laser with the pink Exent.

Pink Exent with GMK Laser would look so rad. I would definitely get that combo if I could afford two Exents :thumb:

Here's a horrible mockup for you:
(http://i.imgur.com/FuI4MKg.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: gnarlsagan on Fri, 03 February 2017, 18:15:04
Pink Exent with GMK Laser would look so rad. I would definitely get that combo if I could afford two Exents :thumb:

Here's a horrible mockup for you:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/FuI4MKg.png)


Lol that mockup is awesome. There is 100% no way I can avoid buying the pink Exent.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: neon_tom on Fri, 03 February 2017, 18:23:24

Pink Exent with GMK Laser would look so rad. I would definitely get that combo if I could afford two Exents :thumb:

Here's a horrible mockup for you:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/FuI4MKg.png)


Welp I'm sold now.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 03 February 2017, 18:59:13
You are the best! I would love a pink board with GMK Laser, but my wife said I am too old for that :(

Reminds me of when I was a sugar daddy of a 20 year old stripper.  Everyone told me I was too old for that.  I refused to believe it.  She was super cute, made me feel young, we listened to the same music, and we had a lot of fun.  Then after a couple months, I realized, I was indeed too old for all that.  $30 on a pound of jelly beans, $70 of Lush bath supplies, $200 on some lingerie, late night calls to get a ride from a club across town...  What was I thinking?

Of course, I had a ton of fun, but it could never last...  So yeah, take warning.  If you want to have some fun for a few months as dude in your 30s, feel free.  Your pink laser lady might just not last much longer than that!

I mean, but did you sell your girl off to another 30 year old guy? cause juah could ez sell laser to someone else if he got tired of it.

Naw, she stopped dancing and moved to Seattle.  Princess Leia, I won't forget.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 03 February 2017, 20:04:19
I just joined the buy. So I guess nothing gets charged till the GB is over? Never done this before.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 03 February 2017, 22:23:25
I just joined the buy. So I guess nothing gets charged till the GB is over? Never done this before.
They will start invoicing soon. Should be fine as long as you paid before the payment deadline.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: zhihuichan on Fri, 03 February 2017, 23:17:49
What's dull polished brass(switch plate) ? Do you get a picture?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 03 February 2017, 23:56:13
What's dull polished brass(switch plate) ? Do you get a picture?
Like one of those brushed sus plate, but in brass.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 04 February 2017, 03:17:40
I just joined the buy. So I guess nothing gets charged till the GB is over? Never done this before.
They will start invoicing soon. Should be fine as long as you paid before the payment deadline.

I assume it will be pretty obvious then? Like I'll get an email or something?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PoisonHeadcrab on Sat, 04 February 2017, 06:03:54
:'( was going to buy for the keyset, but not too sure now as it doesn't support the layout I'd want.

Good thing there are tons of keyset options out there. Originative Carbon black looks pretty similar.

... Now in for black, blue, and pink. Please no one talk me into getting grey... Just realized though that Round 6 Space Cadet would look really really good on grey.

(Attachment Link)

What's wrong with talking you into grey haha? It looks fantastic. I might be able to talk you out of it though if you can't resist the thought of it paired with Round 6: the grey of Round 6 Space Cadet keys might be just enough of a shade off compared to the grey board that it will clash a bit. If I wasn't going for grey I would go black. Color preference is purely personal tastes, but this is how the board colors fall in my book:

Black = Grey > Silver = Blue > Pink

I can't see myself ever going with the blue, but it looks very nice. Would definitely be a strong option for anyone looking for something a little more different. And pink just isn't my thing.

Because I'm already buying the black, blue, and pink lol. If I can sell a few boards I might jump on grey too. I was also never into colorful boards until I put GMK Skeletor on an electric blue LZ-RV. Once you get that one magical combo it's all over. For me it's probably gonna be GMK Laser with the pink Exent.

Pink Exent with GMK Laser would look so rad. I would definitely get that combo if I could afford two Exents :thumb:

Here's a horrible mockup for you:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/FuI4MKg.png)


That would look amazing!

Personally, I'm looking forward to pair it with those Mito canvas keycaps that recently came up on Massdrop:
(http://i.imgur.com/fAsPwBq.jpg)

Tho I still can't decide yet whether I should grab the silver or grey one...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Sat, 04 February 2017, 06:56:52
(http://i.imgur.com/fAsPwBq.jpg)

This suits me more  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 04 February 2017, 10:26:36
I really like that Bauhaus font set--almost got one.  It's the perfect new-vintage.  Definitely looks like a great candidate for EXENT.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 04 February 2017, 13:57:03
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/fAsPwBq.jpg)


This suits me more  :cool:

God that looks so ****in great. I got this keyboard and that set but I didn't get a 1.75u Rshift, which is a requirement for me cause I want arrow keys.

The only think that irritates me about this layout is the 1.75u shift. That throws a loop into everything. Still, this keyboard simply too gorgeous to pass up.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: zhihuichan on Sun, 05 February 2017, 06:50:08
Ordered two!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Sun, 05 February 2017, 22:40:37
Ordered two!
Thank you sir!
Will start invoicing shortly!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: aznreaper on Mon, 06 February 2017, 00:32:17
Just looking over the FAQ, so the the PCB supports split backspace, but the keyset doesn't?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Mon, 06 February 2017, 01:01:53
Just looking over the FAQ, so the the PCB supports split backspace, but the keyset doesn't?
It seems like there isn't enough keys from the bundled GMK set for all supported layout.
 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: zhihuichan on Mon, 06 February 2017, 01:06:57
About firmware and bootmapper. http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 06 February 2017, 01:45:08
Who do I talk to if I ****ed up my order?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Mon, 06 February 2017, 01:46:57
Who do I talk to if I ****ed up my order?
the thread starter juahenza?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: japanitrat on Mon, 06 February 2017, 15:27:14
Ordered two!
Thank you sir!
Will start invoicing shortly!

It would be great if you could check your pm first ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 06 February 2017, 23:55:15
Ordered two!
Thank you sir!
Will start invoicing shortly!

It would be great if you could check your pm first ;)
Hi there, did you send me a PM? I don't msg from you bro  :'(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 07 February 2017, 07:43:08
If I place an order now and receive an invoice, is it still safe to wait till the deadline to make payment? Or do I have to pay as soon as invoice is received?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Data on Tue, 07 February 2017, 07:59:22
I saw it mentioned that quadcube is the "PCB guy".  Does that mean this is a custom PCB?  Can we see it?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 07 February 2017, 11:18:57
If I place an order now and receive an invoice, is it still safe to wait till the deadline to make payment? Or do I have to pay as soon as invoice is received?

Did you receive an invoice? I have placed two pre-order forms and have not received and invoice yet, I do not believe invoicing will happen until the deadline
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 07 February 2017, 11:37:39
If I place an order now and receive an invoice, is it still safe to wait till the deadline to make payment? Or do I have to pay as soon as invoice is received?

I'd assume so but would like confirmation too.

Did you receive an invoice? I have placed two pre-order forms and have not received and invoice yet, I do not believe invoicing will happen until the deadline

I haven't at least. I wouldn't worry, as per Jua's post earlier he said he was gonna start working on invoices shortly but I'm sure it'll be stated once it finishes.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 07 February 2017, 12:09:45
Hi there, did you send me a PM? I don't msg from you bro  :'(

I had also reached out, but by email per the email button on your profile, just hoping to compare the answers between the two forms I submitted
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 07 February 2017, 12:49:39
If I place an order now and receive an invoice, is it still safe to wait till the deadline to make payment? Or do I have to pay as soon as invoice is received?

Did you receive an invoice? I have placed two pre-order forms and have not received and invoice yet, I do not believe invoicing will happen until the deadline

No no I just wanted to ask so I can fit it into my spending pattern :p
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: japanitrat on Tue, 07 February 2017, 16:24:38
Ordered two!
Thank you sir!
Will start invoicing shortly!

It would be great if you could check your pm first ;)
Hi there, did you send me a PM? I don't msg from you bro  :'(

Oh, I think I have pressed the "send email" button. Maybe in your mail?

Edit: sent again as pm
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dr_derivative on Wed, 08 February 2017, 15:51:57
Ordered mine!  :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 09 February 2017, 13:51:25
Ordered two!
Thank you sir!
Will start invoicing shortly!

It would be great if you could check your pm first ;)
Hi there, did you send me a PM? I don't msg from you bro  :'(

Oh, I think I have pressed the "send email" button. Maybe in your mail?

Edit: sent again as pm


Wait, have you started invoicing? I'm confused.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 09 February 2017, 13:59:44
Wait, have you started invoicing? I'm confused.

I believe invoicing won't start until the group buy ends on 02/22
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Marvellion on Thu, 09 February 2017, 15:09:18
Is there a photo of aluminum bottom? I wonder how uniform it will look.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 10 February 2017, 07:22:53
Wait, have you started invoicing? I'm confused.
I've been wanting to start doing a little bit in the last couple of days, but I was just too busy.

Is there a photo of aluminum bottom? I wonder how uniform it will look.
Unfortunately we don't have one in hand now.
The finish is the same as the aluminium top you saw.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: orpheo on Fri, 10 February 2017, 13:49:33
The in OP there is a silver aluminium finish and black sides. Is it still the same for the final anodizing?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dubious on Fri, 10 February 2017, 15:10:25
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...?  :-X
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: grayish on Fri, 10 February 2017, 15:16:28
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...?  :-X

I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking  :-X
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 10 February 2017, 18:37:38
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...?  :-X

Uhhhhhhh. No, I don't know anyone that would do that.  Uh uhh.   ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 10 February 2017, 23:54:19
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...?  :-X

I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking  :-X
Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: grayish on Fri, 10 February 2017, 23:59:05
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...?  :-X

I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking  :-X
Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...

Thanks. The addiction started 5 months ago, but only three mechs so far. Guess I'm not totally lost. I can quit anytime I want.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 11 February 2017, 02:39:31
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...?  :-X

I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking  :-X
Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...
My name is yuktsi, I have a keyboard problem too  :confused:
When I look at all the keyboards that I have, I don't feel using like any of them (Or I don't have a keyboard to use) 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 11 February 2017, 02:51:31
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...?  :-X

Uhhhhhhh. No, I don't know anyone that would do that.  Uh uhh.   ;D

You guys are doing it wrong.. no need to even visit this thread:
(http://i.imgur.com/zAEYeO6.jpg)



Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...?  :-X

I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking  :-X
Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...
My name is yuktsi, I have a keyboard problem too  :confused:
When I look at all the keyboards that I have, I don't feel using like any of them (Or I don't have a keyboard to use)

That sounds an awful lot like my Steam library.  500 games and nothing to play.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 11 February 2017, 03:31:42
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...?  :-X

Uhhhhhhh. No, I don't know anyone that would do that.  Uh uhh.   ;D

You guys are doing it wrong.. no need to even visit this thread:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zAEYeO6.jpg)




Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...?  :-X

I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking  :-X
Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...
My name is yuktsi, I have a keyboard problem too  :confused:
When I look at all the keyboards that I have, I don't feel using like any of them (Or I don't have a keyboard to use)

That sounds an awful lot like my Steam library.  500 games and nothing to play.
Like a girl with a closet full of clothes, but telling you she has nothing to wear  :'(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Sat, 11 February 2017, 13:04:39
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...?  :-X

I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking  :-X
Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...

His name was MythicalWagyu.

On another note, any way I can edit my submission?  I'm thinking about getting the setup with the caps. 
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 11 February 2017, 13:20:29
On another note, any way I can edit my submission?  I'm thinking about getting the setup with the caps.

Not really. People who want to change their order have been advised to submit a brand new one and in the Notes section of the last page mention that you are editing/want to cancel the prior one.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 11 February 2017, 13:34:16
You guys are doing it wrong.. no need to even visit this thread:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zAEYeO6.jpg)


Slide them wallies into my DMs homie, those are sick
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: speedemonv12 on Sat, 11 February 2017, 19:56:12
Ordered!

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 11 February 2017, 23:25:43
You guys are doing it wrong.. no need to even visit this thread:
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zAEYeO6.jpg)


Slide them wallies into my DMs homie, those are sick

I just took them from the OP.  I wish I had them in a little bigger resolution, the one on the left I had to upscale and it looks a little iffy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 11 February 2017, 23:55:53
I just took them from the OP.  I wish I had them in a little bigger resolution, the one on the left I had to upscale and it looks a little iffy.

Ah yea, I'd just seen the sized down forum version of the screenshot so thought you'd converted them or found them in proper wallpaper resolution. I need to ask one of them people that do all sorts of wallpapers of Rama's designs (they're mostly over on Reddit I think)!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Pwner on Sun, 12 February 2017, 00:35:16
I just took them from the OP.  I wish I had them in a little bigger resolution, the one on the left I had to upscale and it looks a little iffy.

Ah yea, I'd just seen the sized down forum version of the screenshot so thought you'd converted them or found them in proper wallpaper resolution. I need to ask one of them people that do all sorts of wallpapers of Rama's designs (they're mostly over on Reddit I think)!

I wish Rama would make a version of this one for the Exent:
(http://i.imgur.com/s9hYZCe.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Sun, 12 February 2017, 01:55:49
Does anyone else come here every day, just to check for updates and look at pictures of the Exent...?  :-X

I registrered just for that. The extent ended my days of lurking  :-X
Welcome to the addiction! My name is MythicalWagyu and I have a keyboard problem...

His name was MythicalWagyu.

On another note, any way I can edit my submission?  I'm thinking about getting the setup with the caps.
You may send me a PM <3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: baphotmet on Mon, 13 February 2017, 00:42:37
If I buy two top cases, can i exchange it with screwdriver instead of welding tools?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Mon, 13 February 2017, 05:48:47
If I buy two top cases, can i exchange it with screwdriver instead of welding tools?
yeah. You can disassemble the board with screw driver.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Belfong on Mon, 13 February 2017, 14:08:33
whoa... just stumbled into this..............................
my wallet, oh my wallet!

edit: can someone explain the stab options - standard vs screwed in?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: getf on Mon, 13 February 2017, 14:54:52
Will there be an option for the GMK set to support WKL?
Seems silly to only be 3 keys missing for compatibility for a common layout.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: boxfrommoon on Mon, 13 February 2017, 15:34:30
I'm really interested in this keyboard but I still haven't fully decided whether to join the group buy or not. Couple of questions:

On the second page of the form there isn't a word "Additional" in the last questions related to stabilizers. I assume these still mean additional stabilizers. Am I right?

And secondly I would like to see more pictures of the aluminum top housing. Does anyone have some pictures of similar material used in some keyboard?

I would also love to see some more higher resolution pictures of the engineering sample!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 13 February 2017, 16:25:20
Will there be an option for the GMK set to support WKL?
Seems silly to only be 3 keys missing for compatibility for a common layout.


These are the only keys available: http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png

whoa... just stumbled into this..............................
my wallet, oh my wallet!

edit: can someone explain the stab options - standard vs screwed in?

Standard attaches to the PCB and the Screw-Ins are screwed in literally. The Screw-Ins are supposedly more stabilized with less wobble.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dollartacos on Mon, 13 February 2017, 16:26:23
Is there any additional info on the PCB?

Also, any idea if the plate/PCB would fit a TADA68 case? (totally blasphemous question, but thinking about ordering extra plate/PCB if yes)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: quadcube on Mon, 13 February 2017, 17:55:06
Is there any additional info on the PCB?

Also, any idea if the plate/PCB would fit a TADA68 case? (totally blasphemous question, but thinking about ordering extra plate/PCB if yes)
any info you would like to know about the PCB?

not too sure about the plate, but the PCB does not have the required screw mounting holes of the TADA68.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dubious on Mon, 13 February 2017, 18:05:59
Is there any additional info on the PCB?

Also, any idea if the plate/PCB would fit a TADA68 case? (totally blasphemous question, but thinking about ordering extra plate/PCB if yes)
any info you would like to know about the PCB?

not too sure about the plate, but the PCB does not have the required screw mounting holes of the TADA68.

What does it look like!?   :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Data on Mon, 13 February 2017, 18:41:32
Is there any additional info on the PCB?

Also, any idea if the plate/PCB would fit a TADA68 case? (totally blasphemous question, but thinking about ordering extra plate/PCB if yes)
any info you would like to know about the PCB?

not too sure about the plate, but the PCB does not have the required screw mounting holes of the TADA68.

Yes, please share any photos or drawings that you can.  Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 13 February 2017, 18:56:27
any info you would like to know about the PCB?

Where will we eventually find instructions to program it? Printed on a piece of paper included with the board, or here in this thread? Or is it exactly the same files and instructions as the B.87 as described here http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183) ? For some reason this is the one question that weighs on my mind the most and that I haven't gotten much of an answer on (other than a vague "it will be available").
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: funis21 on Mon, 13 February 2017, 20:22:37
:3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Dylan on Wed, 15 February 2017, 07:54:01
Without a doubt the best looking I've seen in my searches, had to create an account to join in on this buy and let you know how awesome it is!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 15 February 2017, 10:21:54
any info you would like to know about the PCB?

Where will we eventually find instructions to program it? Printed on a piece of paper included with the board, or here in this thread? Or is it exactly the same files and instructions as the B.87 as described here http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183) ? For some reason this is the one question that weighs on my mind the most and that I haven't gotten much of an answer on (other than a vague "it will be available").

It seems the PCB uses bootmapper so it will be like Winkeyless.kr's other keyboards. Its very easy to program them.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 15 February 2017, 19:54:44
It seems the PCB uses bootmapper so it will be like Winkeyless.kr's other keyboards. Its very easy to program them.

Right, I'd just like to know if it uses the B87 hex file or a custom one. And if we're going to get instructions (such as the key combo to put it in boot mapping mode) with the shipment or if it will be posted else elsewhere. Guess it doesn't matter though; a rather minor thing. Just haven't heard anything so I thought I'd ask.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 16 February 2017, 11:38:46
Without a doubt the best looking I've seen in my searches, had to create an account to join in on this buy and let you know how awesome it is!

Welcome.  Can I interest you in group buys?  You can join as many as you like.  Don't worry about food and shelter.  You will be OK.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Dylan on Thu, 16 February 2017, 15:42:37
Without a doubt the best looking I've seen in my searches, had to create an account to join in on this buy and let you know how awesome it is!

Welcome.  Can I interest you in group buys?  You can join as many as you like.  Don't worry about food and shelter.  You will be OK.
Which switches provide the most calories?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Data on Thu, 16 February 2017, 19:36:54
Without a doubt the best looking I've seen in my searches, had to create an account to join in on this buy and let you know how awesome it is!

Welcome.  Can I interest you in group buys?  You can join as many as you like.  Don't worry about food and shelter.  You will be OK.
Which switches provide the most calories?

Chocolate Browns, obviously.   :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: zhihuichan on Fri, 17 February 2017, 05:29:25
Do we start invoicing?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: quadcube on Sun, 19 February 2017, 01:04:48
It seems the PCB uses bootmapper so it will be like Winkeyless.kr's other keyboards. Its very easy to program them.

Right, I'd just like to know if it uses the B87 hex file or a custom one. And if we're going to get instructions (such as the key combo to put it in boot mapping mode) with the shipment or if it will be posted else elsewhere. Guess it doesn't matter though; a rather minor thing. Just haven't heard anything so I thought I'd ask.
custom keymap file. to enter boot mapper,just hold one of the key and plug in the USB (i forgot which key i map it too, i think it's backspace)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Data on Sun, 19 February 2017, 02:19:32
So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent.  What gives?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: catweewee on Sun, 19 February 2017, 05:23:00
So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent.  What gives?

Hi, what would you like to know specifically?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: neon_tom on Sun, 19 February 2017, 07:24:38
I think I want to upgrade my order to a premium kit. Should I resubmit a new order form or get it updated?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Sun, 19 February 2017, 07:39:11
I think I want to upgrade my order to a premium kit. Should I resubmit a new order form or get it updated?
Just update your existing submission if you are able to do so  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: neon_tom on Sun, 19 February 2017, 08:27:34
I think I want to upgrade my order to a premium kit. Should I resubmit a new order form or get it updated?
Just update your existing submission if you are able to do so  :thumb:

Can't. I get a new empty form every time. Which is why I was asking. :-/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: ClearKeys on Sun, 19 February 2017, 10:42:22
This. I need this. GMK Snes with Silver Exent

(http://i.imgur.com/rJMrq4T.jpg)

Decided to see Grey (http://i.imgur.com/oSGgEhC.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/oSGgEhC.jpg)) and Black (http://i.imgur.com/kOtf8Pq.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/kOtf8Pq.jpg)) also. I'm undecided!
Even the Silver extent with the default keycaps mimics an NES controller pretty well with the silver border, darker inlay and red highlights.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: six_chains on Sun, 19 February 2017, 18:20:42
This. I need this. GMK Snes with Silver Exent

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rJMrq4T.jpg)


Decided to see Grey (http://i.imgur.com/oSGgEhC.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/oSGgEhC.jpg)) and Black (http://i.imgur.com/kOtf8Pq.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/kOtf8Pq.jpg)) also. I'm undecided!
Even the Silver extent with the default keycaps mimics an NES controller pretty well with the silver border, darker inlay and red highlights.


i could do without that black WASZ cluster,
but otherwise, nice job!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Sun, 19 February 2017, 19:24:13
I think I want to upgrade my order to a premium kit. Should I resubmit a new order form or get it updated?
Just update your existing submission if you are able to do so  :thumb:

Can't. I get a new empty form every time. Which is why I was asking. :-/

I think I want to upgrade my order to a premium kit. Should I resubmit a new order form or get it updated?
Just update your existing submission if you are able to do so  :thumb:

Can't. I get a new empty form every time. Which is why I was asking. :-/
Just submit another one or you may pm Juahenza about it :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Data on Sun, 19 February 2017, 21:10:46
So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent.  What gives?

Hi, what would you like to know specifically?

How the LEDs are arranged
Orientation of the USB port
Orientation of the switches
Orientation of the stabilizers
Concessions made to accommodate multiple bottom row layouts
Placement of the controller
Locations of mounting holes, if any
PCB and silkscreen color
Placement of silkscreen legends, if any

And so on.  It sounds like a lot of trivial information, but they're things that could be answered with a single photo or a schematic or even a render.  I guess I don't understand why it's a secret.

If it's just a slightly modified version of B.87 then that's fine.  It's not a big deal, but you need to say that and I'll just Google some B.87 images.  If it's a full custom PCB then let us see it.  Don't you want to show it off?  I'm so confused...

Instead of asking me this question... you could have posted the image(s) I've been begging for.  I'm a customer and this is kind of important information that you're withholding.  If the PCB is some big secret and you can't articulate the reason for it then I might have to cancel my order.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 19 February 2017, 22:19:00
So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent.  What gives?

Hi, what would you like to know specifically?

How the LEDs are arranged
Orientation of the USB port
Orientation of the switches
Orientation of the stabilizers
Concessions made to accommodate multiple bottom row layouts
Placement of the controller
Locations of mounting holes, if any
PCB and silkscreen color
Placement of silkscreen legends, if any

And so on.  It sounds like a lot of trivial information, but they're things that could be answered with a single photo or a schematic or even a render.  I guess I don't understand why it's a secret.

If it's just a slightly modified version of B.87 then that's fine.  It's not a big deal, but you need to say that and I'll just Google some B.87 images.  If it's a full custom PCB then let us see it.  Don't you want to show it off?  I'm so confused...

Instead of asking me this question... you could have posted the image(s) I've been begging for.  I'm a customer and this is kind of important information that you're withholding.  If the PCB is some big secret and you can't articulate the reason for it then I might have to cancel my order.

Yeah I'd like to see the PCB too. There are a number of configurations I'm thinking of and I'd like to make sure the PCB can accommodate them.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Sun, 19 February 2017, 22:21:55
So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent.  What gives?

Hi, what would you like to know specifically?

How the LEDs are arranged
Orientation of the USB port
Orientation of the switches
Orientation of the stabilizers
Concessions made to accommodate multiple bottom row layouts
Placement of the controller
Locations of mounting holes, if any
PCB and silkscreen color
Placement of silkscreen legends, if any

And so on.  It sounds like a lot of trivial information, but they're things that could be answered with a single photo or a schematic or even a render.  I guess I don't understand why it's a secret.

If it's just a slightly modified version of B.87 then that's fine.  It's not a big deal, but you need to say that and I'll just Google some B.87 images.  If it's a full custom PCB then let us see it.  Don't you want to show it off?  I'm so confused...

Instead of asking me this question... you could have posted the image(s) I've been begging for.  I'm a customer and this is kind of important information that you're withholding.  If the PCB is some big secret and you can't articulate the reason for it then I might have to cancel my order.
Hi there, it's no secret. I believe we might have overlooked your msg earlier. Sorry.

There you got. Here's a back view of the pcb. Not final but almost. It's no where near b87 I think.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/9fc9ec072b343c8d2db63557fa2c69e9.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Sun, 19 February 2017, 22:24:28
Oh yeah, since it's not finalised yet, feel free to comment. Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Data on Sun, 19 February 2017, 22:28:31
More
So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent.  What gives?

Hi, what would you like to know specifically?

How the LEDs are arranged
Orientation of the USB port
Orientation of the switches
Orientation of the stabilizers
Concessions made to accommodate multiple bottom row layouts
Placement of the controller
Locations of mounting holes, if any
PCB and silkscreen color
Placement of silkscreen legends, if any

And so on.  It sounds like a lot of trivial information, but they're things that could be answered with a single photo or a schematic or even a render.  I guess I don't understand why it's a secret.

If it's just a slightly modified version of B.87 then that's fine.  It's not a big deal, but you need to say that and I'll just Google some B.87 images.  If it's a full custom PCB then let us see it.  Don't you want to show it off?  I'm so confused...

Instead of asking me this question... you could have posted the image(s) I've been begging for.  I'm a customer and this is kind of important information that you're withholding.  If the PCB is some big secret and you can't articulate the reason for it then I might have to cancel my order.

Hi there, it's no secret. I believe we might have overlooked your msg earlier. Sorry.

There you got. Here's a back view of the pcb. Not final but almost. It's no where near b87 I think.

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/9fc9ec072b343c8d2db63557fa2c69e9.jpg)


Thank you!  :thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 20 February 2017, 00:49:04
So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent.  What gives?

Hi, what would you like to know specifically?

How the LEDs are arranged
Orientation of the USB port
Orientation of the switches
Orientation of the stabilizers
Concessions made to accommodate multiple bottom row layouts
Placement of the controller
Locations of mounting holes, if any
PCB and silkscreen color
Placement of silkscreen legends, if any

And so on.  It sounds like a lot of trivial information, but they're things that could be answered with a single photo or a schematic or even a render.  I guess I don't understand why it's a secret.

If it's just a slightly modified version of B.87 then that's fine.  It's not a big deal, but you need to say that and I'll just Google some B.87 images.  If it's a full custom PCB then let us see it.  Don't you want to show it off?  I'm so confused...

Instead of asking me this question... you could have posted the image(s) I've been begging for.  I'm a customer and this is kind of important information that you're withholding.  If the PCB is some big secret and you can't articulate the reason for it then I might have to cancel my order.
Hi there, it's no secret. I believe we might have overlooked your msg earlier. Sorry.

There you got. Here's a back view of the pcb. Not final but almost. It's no where near b87 I think.

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/9fc9ec072b343c8d2db63557fa2c69e9.jpg)


Is that 18 LEDs?!    :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 20 February 2017, 02:32:30
So the GB ends soon and invoices are about to go out but we still haven't seen a photo, drawing, render, or crayon scribble on construction paper of the PCB for the Exent.  What gives?

Hi, what would you like to know specifically?

How the LEDs are arranged
Orientation of the USB port
Orientation of the switches
Orientation of the stabilizers
Concessions made to accommodate multiple bottom row layouts
Placement of the controller
Locations of mounting holes, if any
PCB and silkscreen color
Placement of silkscreen legends, if any

And so on.  It sounds like a lot of trivial information, but they're things that could be answered with a single photo or a schematic or even a render.  I guess I don't understand why it's a secret.

If it's just a slightly modified version of B.87 then that's fine.  It's not a big deal, but you need to say that and I'll just Google some B.87 images.  If it's a full custom PCB then let us see it.  Don't you want to show it off?  I'm so confused...

Instead of asking me this question... you could have posted the image(s) I've been begging for.  I'm a customer and this is kind of important information that you're withholding.  If the PCB is some big secret and you can't articulate the reason for it then I might have to cancel my order.
Hi there, it's no secret. I believe we might have overlooked your msg earlier. Sorry.

There you got. Here's a back view of the pcb. Not final but almost. It's no where near b87 I think.

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170220/9fc9ec072b343c8d2db63557fa2c69e9.jpg)


Is that 18 LEDs?!    :D
Yeah! Reduced from 22 to 18 for better light distribution.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 20 February 2017, 12:00:07
Is that 18 LEDs?!    :D
Yeah! Reduced from 22 to 18 for better light distribution.

Beam me up juahenza!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: sachin3767 on Mon, 20 February 2017, 16:53:12
This is very close to closing and I am considering buying extras. Quick question...  how does the plate fit the top housing? Can it fit other cases similar to Whitefox or the Ramabae65/ JC65?

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 20 February 2017, 20:01:38
This is very close to closing and I am considering buying extras. Quick question...  how does the plate fit the top housing? Can it fit other cases similar to Whitefox or the Ramabae65/ JC65?
I am not sure about whitefox or JC65. The internal of the EXENT is similar to most Kustom, where the plate is mounted to the top housing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: rustywok on Mon, 20 February 2017, 21:40:15
I broke. I crumbled. I cracked. I ordered.   :thumb: The Exent is just too beautiful. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 21 February 2017, 06:52:18
Mayhap I paid an invoice  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 21 February 2017, 07:39:43
Mayhap I paid an invoice  :rolleyes:
Thank you bro <3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: rmendis on Tue, 21 February 2017, 07:57:10
Mayhap I paid an invoice  :rolleyes:
Thank you bro <3

Invoices have gone out?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 21 February 2017, 08:41:40
Mayhap I paid an invoice  :rolleyes:
Thank you bro <3

Invoices have gone out?
Partly. I am taking a break now. Will continue in awhile.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: Dylan on Tue, 21 February 2017, 10:48:26
So, just curious because this is my first group buy, do we have to solder the switches on or do they come pre soldered? What sort of assembly is required?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: xondat on Tue, 21 February 2017, 10:59:56
So, just curious because this is my first group buy, do we have to solder the switches on or do they come pre soldered? What sort of assembly is required?
You'll have to solder the switches in along with installing stabilizers.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: rmendis on Tue, 21 February 2017, 11:02:27
Mayhap I paid an invoice  :rolleyes:
Thank you bro <3

Invoices have gone out?
Partly. I am taking a break now. Will continue in awhile.

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That's the best kind of break. =)

Look forward to getting the invoice and locking this bad boy in.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 21 February 2017, 11:10:19
Mayhap I paid an invoice  :rolleyes:
Thank you bro <3

Invoices have gone out?
Partly. I am taking a break now. Will continue in awhile.

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I assume it's ok to pay on the very last day right (28th?)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: Dylan on Tue, 21 February 2017, 11:17:55
So, just curious because this is my first group buy, do we have to solder the switches on or do they come pre soldered? What sort of assembly is required?
You'll have to solder the switches in along with installing stabilizers.
Ah man, no idea how to do that. Is it difficult? Is it possible to take it somewhere for someone to do? I probably sound like an idiot haha, apologies.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 21 February 2017, 11:21:11
Ah man, no idea how to do that. Is it difficult? Is it possible to take it somewhere for someone to do? I probably sound like an idiot haha, apologies.

It's not too hard to do, but I would recommend a little research and practice first if you are going to do it yourself. Many cities will have options for getting this done professionally, and also you can try reaching out in maker communities and keyboard communities like this one, a lot of people would be willing to help out, but that is a grab bag of skill
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 21 February 2017, 11:26:34
So, just curious because this is my first group buy, do we have to solder the switches on or do they come pre soldered? What sort of assembly is required?
You'll have to solder the switches in along with installing stabilizers.
Ah man, no idea how to do that. Is it difficult? Is it possible to take it somewhere for someone to do? I probably sound like an idiot haha, apologies.
It's not difficult at all, since all the smd components come pre soldered. You should total try it out yourself first.                   
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: dr-slump on Tue, 21 February 2017, 13:14:22
Mayhap I paid an invoice  :rolleyes:
Thank you bro <3

Invoices have gone out?
Partly. I am taking a break now. Will continue in awhile.

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Hi mate.
Sent you a PP yesterday about canceling my first order because I couldn't edit it.
I've filled out a second form, stating the same in the "Note" section.

Thanks in advance & Best regards !
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: Dylan on Tue, 21 February 2017, 15:36:08
Thanks Pixel and juahenza, I'll try and make a project out of it but if I don't have the time I'll end up at a computer repair store or something! Worth it for the board :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Tue, 21 February 2017, 16:21:32
Thanks Pixel and juahenza, I'll try and make a project out of it but if I don't have the time I'll end up at a computer repair store or something! Worth it for the board :)
I'd say if you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself you'll probably have better luck contacting someone here or over on /r/mechmarket to do it for you. There are plenty of reputable people that offer assembly services for very reasonable prices.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (2 days left!!)
Post by: Gettys on Tue, 21 February 2017, 16:45:35
So I went ahead and paid the invoice.  Now to sit and not try and think about it for the next 3-4 months.  :-X
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: JAB on Wed, 22 February 2017, 00:17:04
Hi, this is my first group buy and I submitted my order on Feb. 20. I read invoices have gone out but I still have not received one. Will I get the invoice through paypal or in a PM? When will all the invoices have been sent?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 22 February 2017, 00:50:19
Hi, this is my first group buy and I submitted my order on Feb. 20. I read invoices have gone out but I still have not received one. Will I get the invoice through paypal or in a PM? When will all the invoices have been sent?
The invoices are expected to be all out in 24 hours. Once they are all out, I will post an update here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: meirish on Wed, 22 February 2017, 10:51:08
Submitted my order for this last night - so excited!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: sachin3767 on Wed, 22 February 2017, 11:33:17
there is no other time when i would be sitting here impatiently waiting for an invoice!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Data on Wed, 22 February 2017, 11:34:17
They're definitely going out.  I got mine.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Count Zero on Wed, 22 February 2017, 11:54:55
Are the invoices going out via email ?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 22 February 2017, 12:18:45
Are the invoices going out via email ?

You should get a Paypal notice about an invoice.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Troif on Wed, 22 February 2017, 17:50:15
Ok @juahenza finally did my last change on the Google Form... I went from grey to black, and then to grey again... I have FOUR (Filco TEX Case, NorbauerTouch, Rama65A, and EXENT) Grey KBs... BUT this one is so different... layout, bezels... do not know... love it. Black would be all right also... argh!  :-\
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: dubious on Wed, 22 February 2017, 20:04:58
Had anyone else still not received an invoice? just checkin...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 22 February 2017, 20:06:24
Had anyone else still not received an invoice? just checkin...

Yes.

Bloody nora this is the first time I've ever seen people wanting others to take their money faster than they want to take it LOL
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: zhihuichan on Wed, 22 February 2017, 20:46:04
Still waiting the invoice :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: rmendis on Wed, 22 February 2017, 20:50:00
Had anyone else still not received an invoice? just checkin...

No invoice here yet. He did say he would make a post here when invoicing is complete.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: dubious on Wed, 22 February 2017, 21:00:44
Had anyone else still not received an invoice? just checkin...

No invoice here yet. He did say he would make a post here when invoicing is complete.

ahhh my bad, thank you!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: MBD on Wed, 22 February 2017, 21:06:22
I sent in a form for a Fullkit, but I haven't received an email with any confirmation.... really don't want to miss out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: ClearKeys on Wed, 22 February 2017, 21:25:56
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Ahhhhh!!! Still so hard to decide between grey and silver. Will the silver be more matte finish like shown in this thread or shiny like the prototype here: https://rama.works/#/m67a/ ??
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 22 February 2017, 21:58:07
I sent in a form for a Fullkit, but I haven't received an email with any confirmation.... really don't want to miss out.

The invoices are expected to be all out in 24 hours. Once they are all out, I will post an update here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 23 February 2017, 11:27:08
I still haven't received an invoice

How concerned should I be?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: wongie on Thu, 23 February 2017, 12:23:47
I still haven't received an invoice

How concerned should I be?

None at all.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Thu, 23 February 2017, 12:27:14
I still haven't received an invoice

How concerned should I be?
I haven't received an invoice either, but juahenza said they would post once all invoices were out so I think we're ok. I hope. I'll be super sad if I messed up something on the order and don't get an invoice  :-X
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 23 February 2017, 12:32:02
I still haven't received an invoice

How concerned should I be?
I haven't received an invoice either, but juahenza said they would post once all invoices were out so I think we're ok. I hope. I'll be super sad if I messed up something on the order and don't get an invoice  :-X

Same. Super anxious right now. Really juahenza, I just want to give you money.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 23 February 2017, 13:01:47
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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 23 February 2017, 14:03:13
I imagine there's a lot of forms to go through, since most people had to submit an extra one instead of editing their first form and since you had to do an extra form for each extra board you wanted. It's best just to sit back, relax, and occasionally check your email and this thread. I'm not going to be worried unless it's the 26th and I still don't have an invoice. Then... then I'll be very worried haha.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 23 February 2017, 14:22:50
I imagine there's a lot of forms to go through, since most people had to submit an extra one instead of editing their first form and since you had to do an extra form for each extra board you wanted. It's best just to sit back, relax, and occasionally check your email and this thread. I'm not going to be worried unless it's the 26th and I still don't have an invoice. Then... then I'll be very worried haha.

I'm sure that's true, but my concern is that "all invoices were to be sent out within 24 hours." Obviously it's been longer than that. 

Not at all trying to say that there isn't a lot of work to be done and stuff to go through, it's just conflicting information that's got me anxious.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Phinnegan on Thu, 23 February 2017, 14:44:53
I imagine there's a lot of forms to go through, since most people had to submit an extra one instead of editing their first form and since you had to do an extra form for each extra board you wanted. It's best just to sit back, relax, and occasionally check your email and this thread. I'm not going to be worried unless it's the 26th and I still don't have an invoice. Then... then I'll be very worried haha.

I'm sure that's true, but my concern is that "all invoices were to be sent out within 24 hours." Obviously it's been longer than that. 

Not at all trying to say that there isn't a lot of work to be done and stuff to go through, it's just conflicting information that's got me anxious.

I agree, but I'll just stay chill until "all invoices HAVE gone out" and I haven't gotten one, even then I'm sure it'll be taken care of just fine.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: ClearKeys on Thu, 23 February 2017, 14:50:11
I imagine there's a lot of forms to go through, since most people had to submit an extra one instead of editing their first form and since you had to do an extra form for each extra board you wanted. It's best just to sit back, relax, and occasionally check your email and this thread. I'm not going to be worried unless it's the 26th and I still don't have an invoice. Then... then I'll be very worried haha.

I'm sure that's true, but my concern is that "all invoices were to be sent out within 24 hours." Obviously it's been longer than that. 

Not at all trying to say that there isn't a lot of work to be done and stuff to go through, it's just conflicting information that's got me anxious.

I agree, but I'll just stay chill until "all invoices HAVE gone out" and I haven't gotten one, even then I'm sure it'll be taken care of just fine.

Everyone freaking out like if he missed an invoice, it wouldn't be handled appropriately. Please see your local pharmacy for some chill pills
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: popkorn62 on Thu, 23 February 2017, 14:56:33
Paid. Cannot wait!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Dodgy on Thu, 23 February 2017, 15:38:59
Will this be run again in the future by any chance? Disappointed that I have to pass on this GB right now...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Fri, 24 February 2017, 02:07:27
I haven't received my invoice. Halp.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Fri, 24 February 2017, 02:16:07
I haven't received my invoice. Halp.


For anyone else waiting on an invoice, they are still working on it :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: wongie on Fri, 24 February 2017, 03:25:39
Help, I had a dream the other night my Exent order was messed up, ordered 2 but only one form went through and I had to drive all the way to Manchester, UK to get this sorted! Unfortunately the dream then descended into a movie-like experience about Arnold Schwarzenegger purposely erasing his memories and living a quiet life as a volleyball player and me and his daughter trying to find him, restore his memories and solve the mystery of why he erased them in the first place, so I don't know whether my order issue was ever resolved. Pls advise.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PoisonHeadcrab on Fri, 24 February 2017, 03:59:23
Just to be sure, everyone else who ordered here and still doesn't have a paypal invoice, did you get any confirmation email or something when you ordered? Because there is none, I'm kind of worried about whether my order even went through. Or is there any other way to check that you indeed have placed an order?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 24 February 2017, 04:38:33
Alright invoice received and paid. Goodluck and godspeed, juahenza.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 24 February 2017, 06:08:52
Just to be sure, everyone else who ordered here and still doesn't have a paypal invoice, did you get any confirmation email or something when you ordered? Because there is none, I'm kind of worried about whether my order even went through. Or is there any other way to check that you indeed have placed an order?

It's a Google form, if you saw a confirmation page then it went through. If you saw an error then it didn't. There's no email confirmation since this is all done manually. Invoices are still going out, stay calm and don't worry
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 24 February 2017, 07:20:31
Just got my invoice and paid it.  And now the wait begins.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: ntw on Fri, 24 February 2017, 07:34:23
wew!! invoice done!!
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: rmendis on Fri, 24 February 2017, 08:02:38
Invoices incoming.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: dib_dubious on Fri, 24 February 2017, 08:10:46
Who are the invoices coming from? I'm part of a couple group buys and want to make sure I keep everything organized. I did receive an invoice but there's nothing to identify which group buy it belongs to. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: rmendis on Fri, 24 February 2017, 08:37:21
Who are the invoices coming from? I'm part of a couple group buys and want to make sure I keep everything organized. I did receive an invoice but there's nothing to identify which group buy it belongs to. Thanks in advance.

If you view the invoice you received (before paying), you should be able to see the line items for the Exent options you selected in the spreadsheet.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 24 February 2017, 08:39:32
Who are the invoices coming from? I'm part of a couple group buys and want to make sure I keep everything organized. I did receive an invoice but there's nothing to identify which group buy it belongs to. Thanks in advance.

If you view the invoice you received (before paying), you should be able to see the line items for the Exent options you selected in the spreadsheet.
Yes you are right. Sorry guys, I am still in the middle of invoicing, please ignore NTW.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: dib_dubious on Fri, 24 February 2017, 09:06:30
Who are the invoices coming from? I'm part of a couple group buys and want to make sure I keep everything organized. I did receive an invoice but there's nothing to identify which group buy it belongs to. Thanks in advance.

If you view the invoice you received (before paying), you should be able to see the line items for the Exent options you selected in the spreadsheet.

Got it. Had to log into my desktop. When I viewed it on my phone I wasn't getting the drop down to show the line items. Thanks again
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: kacase on Fri, 24 February 2017, 09:13:43
just got the invoice and paid!

cant wait for the board! :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: ClearKeys on Fri, 24 February 2017, 09:16:09
Am I the only one not excited to get and pay my invoice? Love the board but could do without this whole paying thing ;P
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: MBD on Fri, 24 February 2017, 10:03:31
Still anxious to get this invoice and get it paid.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Fri, 24 February 2017, 10:21:16
Already paid my invoice but looking it over again I've got a question, when it says "Silver color anodized aluminum +$30" that is the 30 to upgrade to the aluminum bottom right?

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 24 February 2017, 10:47:35
Already paid my invoice but looking it over again I've got a question, when it says "Silver color anodized aluminum +$30" that is the 30 to upgrade to the aluminum bottom right?

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
Hello, yeah you are right.

Btw guys, the invoicing is taking a little longer than I thought. They are too many combinations and I couldn't figure a way to have them sent in bulk.

Update: 60% of the invoices are out. I will have more sent tmr. Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Fri, 24 February 2017, 11:04:34
Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. Good luck finishing up the invoices, I'm sure it is a pain.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: rustywok on Fri, 24 February 2017, 11:08:54
My invoice just came in a few minutes ago. So glad I decided to jump on this sale at the last minute. Paid.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 24 February 2017, 11:17:25
Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. Good luck finishing up the invoices, I'm sure it is a pain.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
It does, I am starting feel an ache at my wrist haha.
Probably because I am not that young anymore.  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 24 February 2017, 11:30:10
Am I the only one not excited to get and pay my invoice? Love the board but could do without this whole paying thing ;P

Yes free things are great. Too bad that's not how the world works.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 24 February 2017, 11:50:21
Paid! Hurts so good...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: dubious on Fri, 24 February 2017, 12:10:54
Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. Good luck finishing up the invoices, I'm sure it is a pain.

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It does, I am starting feel an ache at my wrist haha.
Probably because I am not that young anymore.  :confused:

But are you using your VE.A ergonomic keyboard??  ;D

Thanks for working on these tho, sounds like a pain!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Sat, 25 February 2017, 12:34:29
Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. Good luck finishing up the invoices, I'm sure it is a pain.

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It does, I am starting feel an ache at my wrist haha.
Probably because I am not that young anymore.  :confused:

But are you using your VE.A ergonomic keyboard??  ;D

Thanks for working on these tho, sounds like a pain!
Not using my VE.A, don't really like the typing feel.
I think it's my mouse that was causing the pain! =/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: dubious on Sat, 25 February 2017, 14:34:21
Awesome, thanks for the quick reply. Good luck finishing up the invoices, I'm sure it is a pain.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
It does, I am starting feel an ache at my wrist haha.
Probably because I am not that young anymore.  :confused:

But are you using your VE.A ergonomic keyboard??  ;D

Thanks for working on these tho, sounds like a pain!
Not using my VE.A, don't really like the typing feel.
I think it's my mouse that was causing the pain! =/

Well I guess you have lots of options to choose from!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Sat, 25 February 2017, 22:27:32
99% of the invoices are sent. All pm and email are replied. Feel free to send me a PM if the details in the invoice is incorrect or if I hasn't responded to your email/pm.

Once again, thank you all for joining!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Dylan on Sat, 25 February 2017, 23:09:04
Just paid! Now to learn how to not check this thread everyday for updates haha
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: tialdo on Sat, 25 February 2017, 23:31:04
Just paid...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: JAB on Sun, 26 February 2017, 01:04:26
Paid! so excited  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: doooostin on Sun, 26 February 2017, 03:24:15
Paid! I can't wait :).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: eddible on Sun, 26 February 2017, 07:28:16
Paid! God Speed is going to look awesome on this, can't wait!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Viking_Robot on Sun, 26 February 2017, 13:58:07
Cant wait to see everyones pictures as these get built.  Another beautiful Rama design.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 26 February 2017, 15:18:57
My invoice is incorrect, please see slack :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sun, 26 February 2017, 17:47:03
paid

thanks very much good sirs
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 26 February 2017, 21:28:14
PM'ed for invoice details
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 27 February 2017, 00:05:03
Pmed for error on invoice
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 27 February 2017, 02:39:46
My invoice is incorrect, please see slack :)
Send me a PM here. Faster.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 27 February 2017, 05:04:58
PM'ed for invoice details
Hey bro, I don't see any msg from you.
Do you mind to send it again? Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: sachin3767 on Mon, 27 February 2017, 10:29:28
Thanks for plowing through those invoices and emails. Invoice is paid and super excited for this board.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: mindxthinker on Mon, 27 February 2017, 10:51:17
Omg...I can't believe I missed this... is it too late to join???
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 27 February 2017, 10:52:08
99% of the invoices are sent. All pm and email are replied. Feel free to send me a PM if the details in the invoice is incorrect or if I hasn't responded to your email/pm.

Once again, thank you all for joining!

PM'd for corrections to invoice
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 27 February 2017, 17:47:50
Omg...I can't believe I missed this... is it too late to join???

Last day was the 22nd and most invoices have already been sent. Looks closed to me; sorry.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 27 February 2017, 21:34:13
99% of the invoices are sent. All pm and email are replied. Feel free to send me a PM if the details in the invoice is incorrect or if I hasn't responded to your email/pm.

Once again, thank you all for joining!

PM'd for corrections to invoice
Bro, I still don't see any PM from you.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: mindxthinker on Mon, 27 February 2017, 23:22:49
99% of the invoices are sent. All pm and email are replied. Feel free to send me a PM if the details in the invoice is incorrect or if I hasn't responded to your email/pm.

Once again, thank you all for joining!

PM'd for corrections to invoice
Bro, I still don't see any PM from you.  :rolleyes:

Mine too? :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 28 February 2017, 00:17:25
99% of the invoices are sent. All pm and email are replied. Feel free to send me a PM if the details in the invoice is incorrect or if I hasn't responded to your email/pm.

Once again, thank you all for joining!

PM'd for corrections to invoice
Bro, I still don't see any PM from you.  :rolleyes:

Mine too? :(
I saw yours. Will reply after my lunch. Haha.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 28 February 2017, 00:22:23
I saw yours. Will reply after my lunch. Haha.

We still have another like 12 hours to pay the invoices correct? I'm gonna be out most of the day as I have some stuff to tend to, I'm not really sure which time zone we're following hence my asking.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: merutz on Tue, 28 February 2017, 01:14:58
I've also PMd you juahenza  :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 28 February 2017, 05:13:15
Sending a PM
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 28 February 2017, 10:10:11
Just paid for my kits!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 28 February 2017, 11:41:48
I saw yours. Will reply after my lunch. Haha.

We still have another like 12 hours to pay the invoices correct? I'm gonna be out most of the day as I have some stuff to tend to, I'm not really sure which time zone we're following hence my asking.
Next week is fine if you can't make it before the deadline. Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 28 February 2017, 12:02:18
I saw yours. Will reply after my lunch. Haha.

We still have another like 12 hours to pay the invoices correct? I'm gonna be out most of the day as I have some stuff to tend to, I'm not really sure which time zone we're following hence my asking.
Next week is fine if you can't make it before the deadline. Thank you.

All good, managed to squeeze out enough time to pay the invoice like 4 hours ago when I was having lunch. Sorted!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 28 February 2017, 17:18:02
Paid my invoice, that was a load off my wallet O_O

Now we play the waiting game!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: merutz on Wed, 01 March 2017, 03:11:13
I still haven't received my corrected invoice.  Have you seen my PM juahenza?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 01 March 2017, 03:12:55
I've also managed to get my invoice paid!
Now for the wait on my very very very early birthday gift to myself  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 01 March 2017, 05:48:24
I've also managed to get my invoice paid!
Now for the wait on my very very very early birthday gift to myself  :))
when is your birthday?  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 01 March 2017, 06:27:04
when is your birthday?  :eek:

Late july :)
I wanted to get myself something nice, why not a first custom board, with GMK too!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: merutz on Wed, 01 March 2017, 06:39:15
Late july :)
I wanted to get myself something nice, why not a first custom board, with GMK too!

Same here! I can't wait to stock some artizanal beers and build this beauty.

Is anyone planning on doing a build video?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 01 March 2017, 08:32:45
Late july :)
I wanted to get myself something nice, why not a first custom board, with GMK too!

Same here! I can't wait to stock some artizanal beers and build this beauty.

Is anyone planning on doing a build video?
There are some pretty good videos on youtube by whitefiredragon.
I will share some later.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 01 March 2017, 12:22:23
Late july :)
I wanted to get myself something nice, why not a first custom board, with GMK too!

Same here! I can't wait to stock some artizanal beers and build this beauty.

Is anyone planning on doing a build video?
There are some pretty good videos on youtube by whitefiredragon.
I will share some later.

the last videos i saw from wfd were ollllllllllllld. has he posted anything recently?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 01 March 2017, 13:47:42
Late july :)
I wanted to get myself something nice, why not a first custom board, with GMK too!

Same here! I can't wait to stock some artizanal beers and build this beauty.

Is anyone planning on doing a build video?
There are some pretty good videos on youtube by whitefiredragon.
I will share some later.

the last videos i saw from wfd were ollllllllllllld. has he posted anything recently?
he has been mia for some time I think 
but old is gold  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: fancymans on Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:06:52
Unfortunately I have to cancel my order (other priorities  :(). I haven't paid the invoice yet, but I assume I can just leave it unpaid?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: quadcube on Thu, 02 March 2017, 07:56:33
Exent prototype PCB arrived  ;D
Purple and gold
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Marvellion on Thu, 02 March 2017, 08:32:40
Exent prototype PCB arrived  ;D
Purple and gold
Darn, I should've bought an extra PCB to use it caseless, it looks awesome.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 02 March 2017, 11:47:37
Wow that really is gorgeous.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Data on Thu, 02 March 2017, 13:02:46
Exent prototype PCB arrived  ;D
Purple and gold

(http://i.imgur.com/GfWJXUh.gif)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 02 March 2017, 13:33:44
Can I ask a quick question? All the photos with, I guess, the GMK keyset have, to the right of the space bar, six 1u keys. This layout is actually viable, right? Because the "layouts" picture/diagram doesn't show it.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 02 March 2017, 14:51:41
Based off GMK's render for the keyset, I'd say no. The 1u R4 keys aren't included, and Sherry had been pretty adamant that the GMK render is correct for what keys are included.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 02 March 2017, 14:59:15
Exent prototype PCB arrived  ;D
Purple and gold

Lakers' color!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:14:05
Based off GMK's render for the keyset, I'd say no. The 1u R4 keys aren't included, and Sherry had been pretty adamant that the GMK render is correct for what keys are included.

Right but the question is does the PCB support it? Bleh I hope it does. Getting two 1.5u keys on top of the 1.75u shift will be such a pain in the ass. ****ed up key units are literally my only problem with this keyboard... aghh.


Why the hell use that layout in those photos then?
 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:17:32
Based off GMK's render for the keyset, I'd say no. The 1u R4 keys aren't included, and Sherry had been pretty adamant that the GMK render is correct for what keys are included.

Right but the question is does the PCB support it? Bleh I hope it does. Getting two 1.5u keys on top of the 1.75u shift will be such a pain in the ass. ****ed up key units are literally my only problem with this keyboard... aghh.


Why the hell use that layout in those photos then?
 

I'm not sure what you mean, but the EXENT keyset fits the EXENT keyboard perfectly. There are extra keys for spacebars and ISO keys as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:19:00
Based off GMK's render for the keyset, I'd say no. The 1u R4 keys aren't included, and Sherry had been pretty adamant that the GMK render is correct for what keys are included.

Right but the question is does the PCB support it? Bleh I hope it does. Getting two 1.5u keys on top of the 1.75u shift will be such a pain in the ass. ****ed up key units are literally my only problem with this keyboard... aghh.


Why the hell use that layout in those photos then?
 

I'm not sure what you mean, but the EXENT keyset fits the EXENT keyboard perfectly. There are extra keys for spacebars and ISO keys as well.

Right but I'm not buying the Exent/GMK set. I'm putting something else on. Ergo, I don't have two R4 1.5 u keys or a R4 1.75u shift.

Given what I will have, filling the bottom row with all 1u keys (to the right of the space bar) is the easiest option.

So the question is, does the PCB support 6x1u keys to the right of the spacebar? Does the switch plate support it?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:21:24
Right but I'm not buying the Exent/GMK set. I'm putting something else on. Ergo, I don't have two R4 1.5 u keys or a R4 1.75u shift.

I personally am having a hard time understanding what you're saying/asking. The PCB covers the layouts pictured and the GMK keyset accurately displays every key available. How's any of this confusing? If you're putting a different key set on it then make sure it comes with two R4 1.5s and a 1.75u rshift - how's this complicated?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:24:55
Right but I'm not buying the Exent/GMK set. I'm putting something else on. Ergo, I don't have two R4 1.5 u keys or a R4 1.75u shift.

I personally am having a hard time understanding what you're saying/asking. The PCB covers the layouts pictured and the GMK keyset accurately displays every key available. How's any of this confusing? If you're putting a different key set on it then make sure it comes with two R4 1.5s and a 1.75u rshift - how's this complicated?


How can I possibly be any clearer?

- I didn't get the GMK set
- The sets I did buy have neither an R4 1.75u shift nor 2x1.5u R4 "Function" keys. (Though they do have a 1.75u key I can use in place of shift).
- What they do have is a lot of 1u keys I can put wherever I want.
- I bought these keysets WELL BEFORE I knew the Exent even existed, and I don't plan on buying any more sets for the forseeable future.

So based on what you're saying, the PCB and plate DO cover the layouts used in the photos/render? You know with all the different bezel colors? I understand that the GMK set DOES NOT allow that layout, i.e. 6x1u to the right of the spacebar. The question is, does the Exent PCB and switch plate allow it?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Phinnegan on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:32:09
Based off GMK's render for the keyset, I'd say no. The 1u R4 keys aren't included, and Sherry had been pretty adamant that the GMK render is correct for what keys are included.

Right but the question is does the PCB support it? Bleh I hope it does. Getting two 1.5u keys on top of the 1.75u shift will be such a pain in the ass. ****ed up key units are literally my only problem with this keyboard... aghh.


Why the hell use that layout in those photos then?

The engineering sample has 6 1u keys - http://imgur.com/a/hmJ5m .  Also, the recent PCB pictures definitely have 6 1u swich positions.

Whether the plate supports it?  If so, the layout graphic should be updated to include that layout right?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:34:31


Whether the plate supports it?  If so, the layout graphic should be updated to include that layout right?

Well I'd presume as much. But I'm not talking about the GMK set.

I was thinking the GMK layout graphic illustrated all the layouts possible on the Exent. I think this is false, and that graphic only represents the layouts possible on the GMK set.

So, basically, I got confused. I think it wouldn't be terrible if someone could upload a graphic illustrating all the layouts actually possible on the exent, assuming the number of permutations is reasonable.

If you look at some of the technical drawings it appears the plate is slotted on the bottom row. I'm pretty confident it supports that layout. I'd be shocked if I got the thing and couldn't do it. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:36:11
Exent prototype PCB arrived  ;D
Purple and gold

Hot damn!  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:41:29
Exent prototype PCB arrived  ;D
Purple and gold

sexiness
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 02 March 2017, 15:58:47
The question is, does the Exent PCB and switch plate allow it?

Yea.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 02 March 2017, 17:10:09
Reading these comments was pretty entertaining haha; I wish I would have checked this thread earlier. I immediately knew what PancakeMSTR was trying to ask and might have been able to clear some things up.

Can I ask a quick question? All the photos with, I guess, the GMK keyset have, to the right of the space bar, six 1u keys. This layout is actually viable, right? Because the "layouts" picture/diagram doesn't show it.

Here's a link to a pic of the prototype brass plate. (https://i.imgur.com/pnjnAou.jpg) It's completely open on that right side of the spacebar. Assuming nothing changes from the prototype it looks like you can achieve this layout as long as the PCB supports it (and I think others have confirmed it does).

EDIT: And what a gorgeous PCB that is. Whew. I bought a second one in case I screwed up the first one somehow during my build, and I'm glad so. Best case scenario I can just look at the spare and admire how pretty it is.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 02 March 2017, 19:59:12
Reading these comments was pretty entertaining haha; I wish I would have checked this thread earlier. I immediately knew what PancakeMSTR was trying to ask and might have been able to clear some things up.

Can I ask a quick question? All the photos with, I guess, the GMK keyset have, to the right of the space bar, six 1u keys. This layout is actually viable, right? Because the "layouts" picture/diagram doesn't show it.

Here's a link to a pic of the prototype brass plate.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pnjnAou.jpg)
It's completely open on that right side of the spacebar. Assuming nothing changes from the prototype it looks like you can achieve this layout as long as the PCB supports it (and I think others have confirmed it does).

EDIT: And what a gorgeous PCB that is. Whew. I bought a second one in case I screwed up the first one somehow during my build, and I'm glad so. Best case scenario I can just look at the spare and admire how pretty it is.


Jesus christ.


Yeah thanks, looks like what I wanna do will work.

Wow though kinda regret not getting the brass plate now. Holy goddamn.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: ClearKeys on Thu, 02 March 2017, 20:07:37
Reading these comments was pretty entertaining haha; I wish I would have checked this thread earlier. I immediately knew what PancakeMSTR was trying to ask and might have been able to clear some things up.

Can I ask a quick question? All the photos with, I guess, the GMK keyset have, to the right of the space bar, six 1u keys. This layout is actually viable, right? Because the "layouts" picture/diagram doesn't show it.

Here's a link to a pic of the prototype brass plate.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pnjnAou.jpg)
It's completely open on that right side of the spacebar. Assuming nothing changes from the prototype it looks like you can achieve this layout as long as the PCB supports it (and I think others have confirmed it does).

EDIT: And what a gorgeous PCB that is. Whew. I bought a second one in case I screwed up the first one somehow during my build, and I'm glad so. Best case scenario I can just look at the spare and admire how pretty it is.


Jesus christ.


Yeah thanks, looks like what I wanna do will work.

Wow though kinda regret not getting the brass plate now. Holy goddamn.

Same. That brass plate looks niiiiceeeee.....
Is it too late to upgrade?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 03 March 2017, 11:36:07
who is "QUADCUBE" ?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 03 March 2017, 13:01:37
Exent prototype PCB arrived  ;D
Purple and gold
dope af
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 03 March 2017, 20:16:44
Paid up, suckas!!!  Can't wait!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 03 March 2017, 21:10:01
who is "QUADCUBE" ?

The guy who designed the PCB. If you're asking about his past work though I'm not sure. I'm pretty new to mechanical keyboards.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 03 March 2017, 21:53:43
who is "QUADCUBE" ?

Same guy who did the PCB for the TGR Jane CE
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: quadcube on Sat, 04 March 2017, 03:08:59
who is "QUADCUBE" ?
hi ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (24 hours left!!)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Sat, 04 March 2017, 15:55:06
who is "QUADCUBE" ?
hi ;D

Great job, dude.  You really lit up the bottom with the LEDs!  Props.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: six_chains on Sat, 04 March 2017, 18:58:00
does the brass plate actually have that mirror finish? or is that just the photo
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: juahenza on Sun, 05 March 2017, 04:21:02
does the brass plate actually have that mirror finish? or is that just the photo
The one for the GB is going to be brush finished. Thank you. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: mindxthinker on Sun, 05 March 2017, 08:00:46
Finally, I paid up! WOOOT WOOT!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 07 March 2017, 11:18:28
Finally, I paid up! WOOOT WOOT!
Thank you bro.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dubious on Wed, 08 March 2017, 12:29:08
does the brass plate actually have that mirror finish? or is that just the photo
The one for the GB is going to be brush finished. Thank you.

Damn. I liked the polished brass.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Wed, 08 March 2017, 12:44:28
I just added my info to the GB yesterday because the form was still active, but it seems like I've missed my chance.  Can we confirm the groupbuy is in fact closed, and I should realize my ship sailed weeks ago?


:( Sadness.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Wed, 08 March 2017, 12:45:01
does the brass plate actually have that mirror finish? or is that just the photo
The one for the GB is going to be brush finished. Thank you.

Why did the order form say dull polished brass then? To me that does not mean brushed finish, but I'd be happy to hear others' opinions. People paid $30 extra for a polished brass plate, so if after payment it is now not polished, please share the reason.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: six_chains on Thu, 09 March 2017, 01:02:45
:( Sadness.



sry bud, closed. but check back later; you might be able to pick up someone's spot.


does the brass plate actually have that mirror finish? or is that just the photo
The one for the GB is going to be brush finished. Thank you.

Why did the order form say dull polished brass then? To me that does not mean brushed finish, but I'd be happy to hear others' opinions. People paid $30 extra for a polished brass plate, so if after payment it is now not polished, please share the reason.


I actually prefer the brushed finish. I have a preference for things "matte"; smoother, has texture, no fingerprints..but again, personal preference here.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 09 March 2017, 11:09:38
I think a polished finish would look better. The plate isn't going to get a lot of direct touching to pick up finger prints, and polished brass takes light so well it's a shame to dull that down at all. I also think the contrast of polished brass against the matte finish of the case would look really nice, better even.

Also curious why the Brass plate has been switched from polished to brushed?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: mindxthinker on Fri, 10 March 2017, 01:38:52
polished brass please~~
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rustywok on Fri, 10 March 2017, 21:40:31
Now I'm wishing I had ordered two instead of just one.  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Data on Fri, 10 March 2017, 21:51:05
Now I'm wishing I had ordered two instead of just one.  :confused:

Two?  Don't be ridiculous.













Any sane person would want 3.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Fri, 10 March 2017, 22:16:19
Now I'm wishing I had ordered two instead of just one.  :confused:

Two?  Don't be ridiculous.













Any sane person would want 3.  ;D

Can confirm. Ordered three. Am sane.  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 11 March 2017, 10:31:21
I... only ordered one. Not sure if I'm insane or just a filthy casual.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 11 March 2017, 12:55:29
I... only ordered one. Not sure if I'm insane or just a filthy casual.

I'm in the casual club right along with you.  Although I did get an extra plate and pcb so I can theoretically have 2 builds.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rmendis on Sat, 11 March 2017, 13:22:23
I... only ordered one. Not sure if I'm insane or just a filthy casual.

^
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 11 March 2017, 19:30:01
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.

I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Sat, 11 March 2017, 20:16:28
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.

I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?

I couldn't  :-[

Black with Round 6/Oblivion
Blue with Dasher
Pink with GMK Laser

And each one can have different switches that I can use depending on mood, weather, day off the week, or astrological period!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: merutz on Sat, 11 March 2017, 22:27:34
A Photoshop I made after Bro announced the new gamer sets. Exent + GMK Cyrillic + Brocaps Murderface Gamer set.

[attach=1]
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 11 March 2017, 22:45:04
A Photoshop I made after Bro announced the new gamer sets. Exent + GMK Cyrillic + Brocaps Murderface Gamer set.

(Attachment Link)

That looks very nice, the render's well made - needs DSA Slasher on it instead, though; it'd look so good on the black Exent, even more so with the Murderface Gamer set - gotta bother DaleSnail so he gets on with that sooner rather than later! :blank:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 11 March 2017, 23:55:42
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.

I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?

I couldn't  :-[

Black with Round 6/Oblivion
Blue with Dasher
Pink with GMK Laser

And each one can have different switches that I can use depending on mood, weather, day off the week, or astrological period!

So roughly 1300$ worth of keyboard.

Okay. Glad to hear I'm doing okay. Post pictures of the results please.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rustywok on Sun, 12 March 2017, 01:14:52
Especially post pictures of the GMK Lazer set on the pink Exent. Uh-huh.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Sun, 12 March 2017, 18:38:27
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.

I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?

I couldn't  :-[

Black with Round 6/Oblivion
Blue with Dasher
Pink with GMK Laser

And each one can have different switches that I can use depending on mood, weather, day off the week, or astrological period!

So roughly 1300$ worth of keyboard.

Okay. Glad to hear I'm doing okay. Post pictures of the results please.

Lol roughly but likely way more. Keyboards still tend to maintain value, so I'm not too worried. This hobby almost pays for itself with the right planning. I expect more hype once people see how great these boards are going to look.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Data on Sun, 12 March 2017, 21:25:17
Any board with GMK Laser is probably going to look amazing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 13 March 2017, 01:58:34
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.

I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?

I couldn't  :-[

Black with Round 6/Oblivion
Blue with Dasher
Pink with GMK Laser

And each one can have different switches that I can use depending on mood, weather, day off the week, or astrological period!

So roughly 1300$ worth of keyboard.

Okay. Glad to hear I'm doing okay. Post pictures of the results please.

Lol roughly but likely way more. Keyboards still tend to maintain value, so I'm not too worried. This hobby almost pays for itself with the right planning. I expect more hype once people see how great these boards are going to look.


Yeah, I've thought about that. I probably could have bought two exents and two F77s and sold the spares each for what I paid for both and essentially broken even, but it's just too much anxiety to be honest. Mostly I suppose I'm just glad that if I decide at some point getting into keyboards was stupid, I can sell everything for at least what I paid, if not (possibly significantly) more.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: ClearKeys on Mon, 13 March 2017, 07:03:44
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.

I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?

I couldn't  :-[

Black with Round 6/Oblivion
Blue with Dasher
Pink with GMK Laser

And each one can have different switches that I can use depending on mood, weather, day off the week, or astrological period!

So roughly 1300$ worth of keyboard.

Okay. Glad to hear I'm doing okay. Post pictures of the results please.

Lol roughly but likely way more. Keyboards still tend to maintain value, so I'm not too worried. This hobby almost pays for itself with the right planning. I expect more hype once people see how great these boards are going to look.


Yeah, I've thought about that. I probably could have bought two exents and two F77s and sold the spares each for what I paid for both and essentially broken even, but it's just too much anxiety to be honest. Mostly I suppose I'm just glad that if I decide at some point getting into keyboards was stupid, I can sell everything for at least what I paid, if not (possibly significantly) more.

Don't worry, it was stupid regardless ;). I think most of us share the similar outlook.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 14 March 2017, 11:45:40
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.

I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?

I couldn't  :-[

Black with Round 6/Oblivion
Blue with Dasher
Pink with GMK Laser

And each one can have different switches that I can use depending on mood, weather, day off the week, or astrological period!

So roughly 1300$ worth of keyboard.

Okay. Glad to hear I'm doing okay. Post pictures of the results please.

Lol roughly but likely way more. Keyboards still tend to maintain value, so I'm not too worried. This hobby almost pays for itself with the right planning. I expect more hype once people see how great these boards are going to look.


Yeah, I've thought about that. I probably could have bought two exents and two F77s and sold the spares each for what I paid for both and essentially broken even, but it's just too much anxiety to be honest. Mostly I suppose I'm just glad that if I decide at some point getting into keyboards was stupid, I can sell everything for at least what I paid, if not (possibly significantly) more.

Don't worry, it was stupid regardless ;). I think most of us share the similar outlook.

The amount of stupidity pales in comparison to all the feels of HYPE!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 14 March 2017, 13:14:07
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.

I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?

I loved Black and Silver too much to just pick one, to be honest. Gives me more to play around with in terms of configuration and whatnot, too. Plus, this collab has me too HYPED.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 14 March 2017, 14:48:14
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.

I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?

I loved Black and Silver too much to just pick one, to be honest. Gives me more to play around with in terms of configuration and whatnot, too. Plus, this collab has me too HYPED.

My choice was even less healthy: I got physically anxious when I thought about only getting the one color I liked and the regret I might feel at not having chosen the other. I think I'm at a 'call in the troops' level of addiction
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 14 March 2017, 14:52:22
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.

I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?

I loved Black and Silver too much to just pick one, to be honest. Gives me more to play around with in terms of configuration and whatnot, too. Plus, this collab has me too HYPED.

My choice was even less healthy: I got physically anxious when I thought about only getting the one color I liked and the regret I might feel at not having chosen the other. I think I'm at a 'call in the troops' level of addiction

That sounds terrible.

I guess I'm lucky: silver silver silver only thing I'm ever interested in. Goes for all (aluminum housed) keyboards. Blue with Dasher (or dancer? Whichever) is tempting, admittedly, but I didn't buy that set anyway so doesn't much matter.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: ClearKeys on Tue, 14 March 2017, 14:58:50
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.

I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?

I loved Black and Silver too much to just pick one, to be honest. Gives me more to play around with in terms of configuration and whatnot, too. Plus, this collab has me too HYPED.

My choice was even less healthy: I got physically anxious when I thought about only getting the one color I liked and the regret I might feel at not having chosen the other. I think I'm at a 'call in the troops' level of addiction

That sounds terrible.

I guess I'm lucky: silver silver silver only thing I'm ever interested in. Goes for all (aluminum housed) keyboards. Blue with Dasher (or dancer? Whichever) is tempting, admittedly, but I didn't buy that set anyway so doesn't much matter.

Silver with either GMK Pyro or GMK snes. I can't wait, it's gonna be hot.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 14 March 2017, 15:01:25
I only bought one, and that alone was enough to set off my "this addiction is getting serious" alarms.

I'm not even quite sure what the point of buying more than one is? Can ya'll really not decide on a single color?

I loved Black and Silver too much to just pick one, to be honest. Gives me more to play around with in terms of configuration and whatnot, too. Plus, this collab has me too HYPED.

My choice was even less healthy: I got physically anxious when I thought about only getting the one color I liked and the regret I might feel at not having chosen the other. I think I'm at a 'call in the troops' level of addiction

It's okay, it happens to me too, I just kinda sugarcoated the stress and process in picking colors. E8-V1 and the MIRA were even more stressful, had me actually agonizing over choices/options for a bit.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 14 March 2017, 15:10:19
That sounds terrible.

I guess I'm lucky: silver silver silver only thing I'm ever interested in. Goes for all (aluminum housed) keyboards. Blue with Dasher (or dancer? Whichever) is tempting, admittedly, but I didn't buy that set anyway so doesn't much matter.

It's okay, it happens to me too, I just kinda sugarcoated the stress and process in picking colors. E8-V1 and the MIRA were even more stressful, had me actually agonizing over choices/options for a bit.

I've gotten better! But yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one Slash Emporor! Collecting has never been a super healthy thing in my lift, addiction is a really accurate term, but it's healthier than drinking or smoking or anything! I am, actually, getting out of collecting Playing Cards and shifting to Keyboards because it is way more manageable financially for me.

I am thinking I will keep the one I end up liking more and sell the other
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rustywok on Tue, 14 March 2017, 17:26:11
Personally, this board, more than any other coming my way, has me pondering all the different configurations possible. That is my idea of fun. So two Exents...? More fun? Or a cry for help? According to "rustywok" logic, if one Exent is a very good thing, surely two must be a very, very, very good thing.

(http://i.imgur.com/dzxo3ZK.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:46:39
im so so so stoked on this board

2017 is gonna be a great keyboard year
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dubious on Thu, 16 March 2017, 16:55:51
Personally, this board, more than any other coming my way, has me pondering all the different configurations possible. That is my idea of fun. So two Exents...? More fun? Or a cry for help? According to "rustywok" logic, if one Exent is a very good thing, surely two must be a very, very, very good thing.

Show Image
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/scout222/Doublemint1_zpszaw6dt6k.jpeg?t=1489440404)


Can't hotlink from photobucket, afaik
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: keyit on Thu, 16 March 2017, 21:43:36
looking for someone to take over my order

Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB) + Dull polished brass
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rustywok on Thu, 16 March 2017, 21:51:56
Personally, this board, more than any other coming my way, has me pondering all the different configurations possible. That is my idea of fun. So two Exents...? More fun? Or a cry for help? According to "rustywok" logic, if one Exent is a very good thing, surely two must be a very, very, very good thing.

Show Image
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/scout222/Doublemint1_zpszaw6dt6k.jpeg?t=1489440404)


Can't hotlink from photobucket, afaik

I've been using a direct link for forever. Huh. And now I can't even log on to the site to fix it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Thu, 16 March 2017, 22:37:55
looking for someone to take over my order

Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB) + Dull polished brass

What color?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: keyit on Fri, 17 March 2017, 00:35:18
looking for someone to take over my order

Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB) + Dull polished brass



What color?


oh forgot to mention color. its black

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Munnybear on Sat, 18 March 2017, 22:04:59
Is this GB still open?!?! some please let me know
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 18 March 2017, 22:48:09
Is this GB still open?!?! some please let me know

It is not still open.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Munnybear on Sun, 19 March 2017, 03:56:12
Is this GB still open?!?! some please let me know

It is not still open.

Thanks you. Although not the answer i was hoping for >___> so sad...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Munnybear on Sun, 19 March 2017, 09:52:43
I actually saw this on Taobao, wondering if its legit?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Sun, 19 March 2017, 10:19:46
I believe there will be a handful available through Originative after everything is done.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: yuktsi on Sun, 19 March 2017, 14:14:53
I actually saw this on Taobao, wondering if its legit?
Yeah it is.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Gettys on Sun, 19 March 2017, 17:06:09
Every time I drop in to see how things are going I get more and more stoked for this board.  Cannot wait.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Munnybear on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:12:34
I actually saw this on Taobao, wondering if its legit?
Yeah it is.  :thumb:

lol... why is it more expansive >____>
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:52:30
Capitalism.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rmendis on Mon, 20 March 2017, 09:07:47
I actually saw this on Taobao, wondering if its legit?

Link?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 20 March 2017, 10:32:38
I actually saw this on Taobao, wondering if its legit?

Link?

Google.

https://world.taobao.com/item/546714072033.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.nOBTuK#detail
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rmendis on Mon, 20 March 2017, 11:16:59
I actually saw this on Taobao, wondering if its legit?

Link?

Google.

https://world.taobao.com/item/546714072033.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.nOBTuK#detail

Thanks. I googled taobao Exent but couldn't find it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: sachin3767 on Mon, 20 March 2017, 19:38:02
Getting really excited for this board and doing preparations for its arrival. This may have been asked before but do holtites fit in the sockets for the switches or LEDs?

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: kennyk64 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 01:48:12
Any status update on the group buy?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Wed, 22 March 2017, 09:01:35
Any status update on the group buy?

I second this, I check back twice a day for updates lol. I know somewhere it said production was 12-16 weeks or something like that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: chromatically on Wed, 22 March 2017, 10:40:11
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 22 March 2017, 11:34:06
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D

Don't tease!!!   ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: chromatically on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:02:07
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D

Don't tease!!!   ;)

I mean according to paypal it was updated with the tracking # and set as "shipped"
I'm so hyped  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dubious on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:04:18
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D

Don't tease!!!   ;)

I mean according to paypal it was updated with the tracking # and set as "shipped"
I'm so hyped  ;D

wat
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: chromatically on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:06:04
wat
yeah idk that's why i'm asking
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:40:09
That sounds like an error on paypal's part, there's absolutely no way these are shipping.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: chromatically on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:51:01
That sounds like an error on paypal's part, there's absolutely no way these are shipping.

i pm'ed juahenza with a screenshot from paypal. you're probably right ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

edit: yeah, paypal issues sort of. they're taking care of it :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Pwner on Wed, 22 March 2017, 19:12:31
Any status update on the group buy?

I second this, I check back twice a day for updates lol. I know somewhere it said production was 12-16 weeks or something like that.

Looks like that taoboa listing doesn't end until April although Google translate may be wrong.  Hopefully it's already in production and we don't have to wait until then before it starts.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 24 March 2017, 19:12:28
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?

1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: kenshinjeff on Fri, 24 March 2017, 19:13:49
Hiii guys, whom should I PM if I haven't received a PP invoice?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 24 March 2017, 19:31:16
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?

1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.

Tempting. Do you have any actual photos of the keys yet? I might have missed it, but all I've seen are renders and a photo of only the ESC key.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 24 March 2017, 19:35:13
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?

1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.

Tempting. Do you have any actual photos of the keys yet? I might have missed it, but all I've seen are renders and a photo of only the ESC key.

No, this is still part of the group buy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 24 March 2017, 19:38:00
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?

1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.

Am interested, but could you provide a chart or render of which keys will be included (including row profile as well, I think that would make it easier for people to decide!)  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Fri, 24 March 2017, 19:39:32
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?

1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.

Yes please. I have two Premium kits on order, would it be possible to add the bonus keys for both?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 24 March 2017, 19:40:42
Depending on how extensive/comprehensive the kit is I most likely would/will be, Sheraton - if you manage to get a list/mockup of the keys included I'm sure others would be too, I'd be very curious to see exactly what'd be able to be included in for $60. Considering the "base" set was fairly cheap I sure would not mind dishing out a little bit of extra cash for the sake of flexibility!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 24 March 2017, 19:40:44
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?

1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.

Yes please. I have two Premium kits on order, would it be possible to add the bonus keys for both?

Yes sir, I'll give an update real soon of all the extra keys to be included.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 24 March 2017, 19:44:25
Not really interested in a full set but I wouldn't mind some other ESC/enter accent colored keys.  Not sure how possible that would be.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: ricyuyc on Fri, 24 March 2017, 20:03:35
Not really interested in a full set but I wouldn't mind some other ESC/enter accent colored keys.  Not sure how possible that would be.
+1
I am interested on the Esc/Enter accent keys also.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 24 March 2017, 23:00:36
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?

1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.

Is it possible to upgrade if we didn't buy premium originally? The lack of support of other layouts was a deal-breaker for me. I'm not really interested in the other premium stuff, just want the full keycap set.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: juahenza on Sat, 25 March 2017, 03:06:54
Any status update on the group buy?

I second this, I check back twice a day for updates lol. I know somewhere it said production was 12-16 weeks or something like that.

Looks like that taoboa listing doesn't end until April although Google translate may be wrong.  Hopefully it's already in production and we don't have to wait until then before it starts.
We have a lot of extras made due to the large MOQ. The boards are already in production already. Don't worry.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Marvellion on Sat, 25 March 2017, 05:48:44
Any status update on the group buy?

I second this, I check back twice a day for updates lol. I know somewhere it said production was 12-16 weeks or something like that.

Looks like that taoboa listing doesn't end until April although Google translate may be wrong.  Hopefully it's already in production and we don't have to wait until then before it starts.
We have a lot of extras made due to the large MOQ. The boards are already in production already. Don't worry.
Does that mean we can get extra bottoms and plates later or just extra keyboard kits?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: neon_tom on Sat, 25 March 2017, 06:23:27
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?

1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.

Is it possible to upgrade if we didn't buy premium originally? The lack of support of other layouts was a deal-breaker for me. I'm not really interested in the other premium stuff, just want the full keycap set.

I'd like to know this as well. I passed on the keyset due to lack of compatibility but I'd have picked it up if this was the case.   
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 25 March 2017, 14:24:09
Any status update on the group buy?

I second this, I check back twice a day for updates lol. I know somewhere it said production was 12-16 weeks or something like that.

Looks like that taoboa listing doesn't end until April although Google translate may be wrong.  Hopefully it's already in production and we don't have to wait until then before it starts.
We have a lot of extras made due to the large MOQ. The boards are already in production already. Don't worry.

Awesome!  You the man.  :thumb:

I think it may have been asked, but what's the possibility of getting an aluminum base when you have the extras?  I'm not 100% sure if I want one, but I've really been thinking about it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Jemaunji on Sat, 25 March 2017, 18:24:02
Great to hear about the extras, I'm going to be looking to snag a black version of this baby  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Katanadog on Sun, 26 March 2017, 17:11:51
Decided that I wanted to keep the board.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 29 March 2017, 10:53:36
To the people who purchased the EXENT Premium Kit, would you like to add $60 for bonus keys?

1800, HHKB, Moogle, Winkeyless, and other adapter keys will be included.

Is it possible to upgrade if we didn't buy premium originally? The lack of support of other layouts was a deal-breaker for me. I'm not really interested in the other premium stuff, just want the full keycap set.



I'd like to know this as well. I passed on the keyset due to lack of compatibility but I'd have picked it up if this was the case.

I'm in the same situation.  Would love to pick up a keyset with extras, as I didn't order the original set for the same reason.  Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rustywok on Wed, 29 March 2017, 12:03:21
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D

I just got one of those last night. Even gave me a tracking #.  :)) I'm going to assume it's a Paypal glitch. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: chromatically on Wed, 29 March 2017, 12:46:11
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D

I just got one of those last night. Even gave me a tracking #.  :)) I'm going to assume it's a Paypal glitch.

I was told it's paypal verifying they're not scammers pretty much so they have sent some stickers/things to the randomly flagged orders
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rustywok on Wed, 29 March 2017, 13:53:26
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D

I just got one of those last night. Even gave me a tracking #.  :)) I'm going to assume it's a Paypal glitch.

I was told it's paypal verifying they're not scammers pretty much so they have sent some stickers/things to the randomly flagged orders

Thanks. Much appreciated. I noticed that my Paypal account has recently been labeled "unverified" when it's been a "verified" account for the last 8 years or so. (Hopefully that's not bouncing me out of raffles because it's not true.) Time to rattle PP's cage and see what is up. I've been using Paypal much more then usual for all these group buys. That and a recent burst of MM aftermarket purchases coupled with a lot of eBay camera buys might have flagged me. Hopefully it's random and not something screwy in the system.   
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 29 March 2017, 13:54:43
You can pregenerate shipping labels pretty far in advance of actual shipping with USPS
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: chromatically on Wed, 29 March 2017, 15:01:29
You can pregenerate shipping labels pretty far in advance of actual shipping with USPS

last i checked USPS doesn't operate out of malaysia.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 29 March 2017, 16:33:21
I got a shipping notification as well. Oh paypal...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 30 March 2017, 22:06:34
I forgot to ask, but came to mind just now.

What shipping method would be used for this buy? I don't think the question popped up over the course of the thread. Feel free to correct me, though.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 30 March 2017, 23:06:34
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D

I just got one of those last night. Even gave me a tracking #.  :)) I'm going to assume it's a Paypal glitch.

I was told it's paypal verifying they're not scammers pretty much so they have sent some stickers/things to the randomly flagged orders

Thanks. Much appreciated. I noticed that my Paypal account has recently been labeled "unverified" when it's been a "verified" account for the last 8 years or so. (Hopefully that's not bouncing me out of raffles because it's not true.) Time to rattle PP's cage and see what is up. I've been using Paypal much more then usual for all these group buys. That and a recent burst of MM aftermarket purchases coupled with a lot of eBay camera buys might have flagged me. Hopefully it's random and not something screwy in the system.
Mine does this sometimes and I noticed it all depends on my form of payment.  My bank account and 2 cards have verified addresses through PayPal and 1 of my cards doesn't.  If I use the card that doesn't have the address linked it shows up as not verified.  Might be different than your situation though.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rustywok on Fri, 31 March 2017, 11:15:40
got a shipping notification already? for reals already shipping out? :D

I just got one of those last night. Even gave me a tracking #.  :)) I'm going to assume it's a Paypal glitch.
I was told it's paypal verifying they're not scammers pretty much so they have sent some stickers/things to the randomly flagged orders

Thanks. Much appreciated. I noticed that my Paypal account has recently been labeled "unverified" when it's been a "verified" account for the last 8 years or so. (Hopefully that's not bouncing me out of raffles because it's not true.) Time to rattle PP's cage and see what is up. I've been using Paypal much more then usual for all these group buys. That and a recent burst of MM aftermarket purchases coupled with a lot of eBay camera buys might have flagged me. Hopefully it's random and not something screwy in the system.
Mine does this sometimes and I noticed it all depends on my form of payment.  My bank account and 2 cards have verified addresses through PayPal and 1 of my cards doesn't.  If I use the card that doesn't have the address linked it shows up as not verified.  Might be different than your situation though.

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Very likely that's what happened. Sounds right. Bank account and a couple of cards here as well. Thanks. I'll watch what happens when I change funding sources.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: eddible on Sun, 02 April 2017, 08:27:05
Is it possible to add on a brass plate to my order?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Sun, 02 April 2017, 10:59:17
Is it possible to add on a brass plate to my order?

It seems like when everything with the main order is settled we'll have a chance to add on to what we've got. I had been waiting to see if I could add an additional aluminum base and was told that was possible. I'm sure we'll know prices and availability of additional pieces in the next month or two. <3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: eddible on Sun, 02 April 2017, 11:02:49
Is it possible to add on a brass plate to my order?

It seems like when everything with the main order is settled we'll have a chance to add on to what we've got. I had been waiting to see if I could add an additional aluminum base and was told that was possible. I'm sure we'll know prices and availability of additional pieces in the next month or two. <3
Ah cool, thanks for that. :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: merutz on Mon, 03 April 2017, 08:08:52
Any updates guys?  :-* Show us some more pics!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Marvellion on Mon, 03 April 2017, 09:50:15
+1 for the updates! Some pictures would be awesome but I'm also fine with anything new related to EXENT

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: quadcube on Mon, 03 April 2017, 11:04:06
(http://i.imgur.com/iBkHOdf.jpg)
 ;D
Any updates guys?  :-* Show us some more pics!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Data on Mon, 03 April 2017, 12:27:06
(http://i.imgur.com/8hT7Ovt.gif)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 03 April 2017, 23:46:34
Any updates guys?  :-* Show us some more pics!
They are working on the top now. There isn't really much to show at this moment, besides blocks of aluminum.
I will post some pic once the top is almost ready (as in when you can see the shape of it)

Haha. Have a nice week ahead guys!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: merutz on Tue, 04 April 2017, 03:22:11
Any updates guys?  :-* Show us some more pics!
They are working on the top now. There isn't really much to show at this moment, besides blocks of aluminum.
I will post some pic once the top is almost ready (as in when you can see the shape of it)

Haha. Have a nice week ahead guys!

Thanks guys! Good lookin' quadcube  :-*
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 04 April 2017, 16:10:38
Any updates guys?  :-* Show us some more pics!
They are working on the top now. There isn't really much to show at this moment, besides blocks of aluminum.
I will post some pic once the top is almost ready (as in when you can see the shape of it)

Haha. Have a nice week ahead guys!

great news sir, thanks so much for your work on this project, its going to be amazing im sure
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: KingRama on Tue, 04 April 2017, 21:18:29
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iBkHOdf.jpg)

 ;D
Any updates guys?  :-* Show us some more pics!


Goddamn I'm so hyped for mine
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: sherryton on Wed, 05 April 2017, 01:21:25
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iBkHOdf.jpg)

 ;D
Any updates guys?  :-* Show us some more pics!


Goddamn I'm so hyped for mine

Great work :) I can't wait for mine either
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 05 April 2017, 02:31:53
I forgot to ask, but came to mind just now.

What shipping method would be used for this buy? I don't think the question popped up over the course of the thread. Feel free to correct me, though.
We are looking to use Pos Malaysia (Ems?) for now. DHL and S.F. Express have pretty good deal for parcel over 3kg, so we might use them as well.
But don't worry, tracking will be provided once they are shipped.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: sushi on Wed, 05 April 2017, 02:43:45
Hey guys,

Sadly I need to let go of my spot. I have the dark gray color w/ dull brass plate and keycaps. PM if you'd like to take it over!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 05 April 2017, 03:27:30
I am looking to pass my spot on to someone else.  Base kit for a Black Exent (You can still make a color change if you like)
 
Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB) $198 - Black   $198.00      
Stabilizers $6 per set (screw-in)   $6.00   1   $6.00      
Stabilizers $6 per set (standard)   $6.00   1   $6.00      
Shipping   $40.00   1   $40.00      
Fee   $11.83   1   $11.83      
Subtotal   $261.83   
   
Total   $261.83 USD

http://i.imgur.com/7CfKURn.png 
 
Message me here, on slack with the same username or /u/greychillstep on reddit.

I have already talked to Juahenza who approved the swap.
 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 05 April 2017, 03:34:47
I am looking to pass my spot on to someone else.  Base kit for a Black Exent
 
Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB) $198 - Black   $198.00      
Stabilizers $6 per set (screw-in)   $6.00   1   $6.00      
Stabilizers $6 per set (standard)   $6.00   1   $6.00      
Shipping   $40.00   1   $40.00      
Fee   $11.83   1   $11.83      
Subtotal   $261.83   
   
Total   $261.83 USD

http://i.imgur.com/7CfKURn.png 
 
Message me here, on slack with the same username or /u/greychillstep on reddit.

I have already talked to Juahenza who approved the swap.
Hey guys,

Sadly I need to let go of my spot. I have the dark gray color w/ dull brass plate and keycaps. PM if you'd like to take it over!
We still allow the color change for whoever taking over these orders.

We did have have a small amount kept at PayPal for occasion like this, but the money is being held by PayPal =(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Wed, 05 April 2017, 12:02:29
 
Hey guys,

Sadly I need to let go of my spot. I have the dark gray color w/ dull brass plate and keycaps. PM if you'd like to take it over!

I'd like to take over this order, but I don't want the keycaps. Possible?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 05 April 2017, 12:34:09
Hey guys,

Sadly I need to let go of my spot. I have the dark gray color w/ dull brass plate and keycaps. PM if you'd like to take it over!

I'd like to take over this order, but I don't want the keycaps. Possible?

I'd buy the keycaps from you!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: keyit on Wed, 05 April 2017, 22:48:45
i still have a black kit w/ brass plate, looking for someone to take over.

Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB) $198-Black   $198.00   1   $198.00      
Dull polished brass +25$   $25.00   1   $25.00      
Shipping   $50.00   1   $50.00      
Fee   $12.89   1   $12.89      
Subtotal   $285.89   
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 07 April 2017, 20:06:22
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/iBkHOdf.jpg)

 ;D
Any updates guys?  :-* Show us some more pics!


Goddamn I'm so hyped for mine

HYPE HYPE HYPE
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Hongwei on Tue, 18 April 2017, 01:21:13
I just send that order doc, any chance to get one?


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Data on Tue, 18 April 2017, 06:32:22
I just send that order doc, any chance to get one?


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Orders have been closed for a long time.  I have no idea why the order form is still up, but it doesn't do anything. 

Quote
Project Timeline
- Groupbuy ends 22th February 2016
- Payment deadline 28th February 2016
- Production 12-16 weeks
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dubious on Tue, 18 April 2017, 12:42:03
it's probably a little late to bring this up, but I just noticed there is no red ISO enter? :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 18 April 2017, 15:53:46

We did have have a small amount kept at PayPal for occasion like this, but the money is being held by PayPal =(

Oh bummer!  I hope they unfreeze your account soon.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Thu, 20 April 2017, 14:47:26
Diiiiiid anybody else get some neato stickers in the mail from someone related to the GB? Or was that just me? They're pretty coo' :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 20 April 2017, 15:45:55
Diiiiiid anybody else get some neato stickers in the mail from someone related to the GB? Or was that just me? They're pretty coo' :)

Yep, got mine yesterday! Look pretty fun. Also gives me a rough idea of how long the keyboard might take to arrive at more door once it ships haha.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Thu, 20 April 2017, 15:48:10
Diiiiiid anybody else get some neato stickers in the mail from someone related to the GB? Or was that just me? They're pretty coo' :)

Yep, got mine yesterday! Look pretty fun. Also gives me a rough idea of how long the keyboard might take to arrive at more door once it ships haha.


Did you get an email for tracking or any information before you received it?  I'm in Toronto and was part of the Gb but haven't received anything yet. q.q. Can you share a picture or tell us what it was?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Thu, 20 April 2017, 15:50:50
Diiiiiid anybody else get some neato stickers in the mail from someone related to the GB? Or was that just me? They're pretty coo' :)

Yep, got mine yesterday! Look pretty fun. Also gives me a rough idea of how long the keyboard might take to arrive at more door once it ships haha.


Did you get an email for tracking or any information before you received it?  I'm in Toronto and was part of the Gb but haven't received anything yet. q.q. Can you share a picture or tell us what it was?
The stickers only went to the people who's money was being held up by PayPal is my understanding.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Thu, 20 April 2017, 17:00:58
Diiiiiid anybody else get some neato stickers in the mail from someone related to the GB? Or was that just me? They're pretty coo' :)

Yep, got mine yesterday! Look pretty fun. Also gives me a rough idea of how long the keyboard might take to arrive at more door once it ships haha.


Did you get an email for tracking or any information before you received it?  I'm in Toronto and was part of the Gb but haven't received anything yet. q.q. Can you share a picture or tell us what it was?
The stickers only went to the people who's money was being held up by PayPal is my understanding.

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Ohhhh interesting, thank you! Would still love to see a picture if possible! (:
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 20 April 2017, 17:48:23
Ohhhh interesting, thank you! Would still love to see a picture if possible! (:

Here's a pic of mine (sorry for the bad lighting and I think the bottom one is upside down).
(https://i.imgur.com/9xyeMkV.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Thu, 20 April 2017, 17:53:21
Ahhh I should have known better than to ask for pictures. Now I'm jealous haha. Maybe we'll all get some when the order ships. :( they look great though thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 21 April 2017, 08:17:21
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2903/33365481113_c0603dd06a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SQoP6K)
Exent (a) (https://flic.kr/p/SQoP6K) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2890/34176547285_8bbdf88b58_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U54JPg)
Exent (m) (https://flic.kr/p/U54JPg) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr

Album link: https://flic.kr/s/aHskYbqpYW
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: merutz on Fri, 21 April 2017, 08:21:04
Show Image
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2903/33365481113_c0603dd06a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SQoP6K)

Exent (a) (https://flic.kr/p/SQoP6K) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2890/34176547285_8bbdf88b58_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U54JPg)
Exent (m) (https://flic.kr/p/U54JPg) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr

Album link: https://flic.kr/s/aHskYbqpYW

Just speechless. Wow!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: flyingpike on Fri, 21 April 2017, 08:42:42
Show Image
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2903/33365481113_c0603dd06a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SQoP6K)

Exent (a) (https://flic.kr/p/SQoP6K) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2890/34176547285_8bbdf88b58_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U54JPg)
Exent (m) (https://flic.kr/p/U54JPg) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr

Album link: https://flic.kr/s/aHskYbqpYW

Oh hells yeah. Super sexy. Wondering if black may not have been the way to go here, but regardless glad I got two (grey & pink).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Fri, 21 April 2017, 08:50:37
Show Image
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2903/33365481113_c0603dd06a_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SQoP6K)

Exent (a) (https://flic.kr/p/SQoP6K) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2890/34176547285_8bbdf88b58_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/U54JPg)
Exent (m) (https://flic.kr/p/U54JPg) by Hanshen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jokrik/), on Flickr

Album link: https://flic.kr/s/aHskYbqpYW


Oh Senpai thank you! If you don't mind, what is that keycap set? Love at first sight.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 21 April 2017, 09:05:05
Oh Senpai thank you! If you don't mind, what is that keycap set? Love at first sight.

GMK Penumbra.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Fri, 21 April 2017, 09:13:54
Thank you. ^_^  I feel dumb. Of course it is. q.q
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: BaconEggandCheeseBagel on Fri, 21 April 2017, 10:53:56
I so regret not getting a brass plate :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 21 April 2017, 10:57:12
Black vs Grey was one of the hardest decisions I've made. Looking at these delightful pics makes my wonder if I should have went with black. Ugh. Should have just bought them both.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 21 April 2017, 11:03:02
No qualms getting the black here - by far the most fitting colour for the theme, in my opinion (even without the GMK set that'll be coming with it). However I might regret not getting a pink case too, might do that still if there are any extras after all's said and done.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:00:54
Those were the same stickers I got that were pictured above, btw.

So what was the deal with the Paypal money holdup that resulted in this sticker thing?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: sachin3767 on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:40:15
Glad I went with black. Gorgeous pictures Jokrik and the prototype looks freaking awesome. Thank you for sharing
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rustywok on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:46:49
Those were the same stickers I got that were pictured above, btw.

So what was the deal with the Paypal money holdup that resulted in this sticker thing?

Not sure but what I gathered from juahenza when I PM'd asking about the stickers was that Paypal picked some accounts at random and had them mail stickers to the account holders. I guess the payments came from juahenza's end cause I only sent funds once and that was for the board kit. I do remember getting that shipping notification a while back. I thought it was just a glitch in Paypal but maybe that was just the stickers shipping out. No complaints from my end though. I love the stickers.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:54:13
Ooooh I see. Is there a contact person I could talk to, at least to thank them for the stickers and make sure my payment is in good shape? I'd hate to miss out on this board after dropping a ton of cash on it just because of Paypal weirdness.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rustywok on Fri, 21 April 2017, 13:51:50
Ooooh I see. Is there a contact person I could talk to, at least to thank them for the stickers and make sure my payment is in good shape? I'd hate to miss out on this board after dropping a ton of cash on it just because of Paypal weirdness.

juahenza, I guess? That's who I contacted via PM. I asked him who designed the stickers but haven't heard back on that ask. He did write back and explained what happened though. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 21 April 2017, 15:14:33
Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 21 April 2017, 21:30:30
Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.

I hope so - I want a set too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Jemaunji on Fri, 21 April 2017, 22:22:22
If anyone is still looking to get rid of their order in black let me know.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: keyit on Sat, 22 April 2017, 00:28:17
If anyone is still looking to get rid of their order in black let me know.  :thumb:

pm'd you
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: cong314159 on Sun, 23 April 2017, 22:07:40
Please PM me if anyone looking to sell their EXENT.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: lastninjax3 on Mon, 24 April 2017, 21:53:45
If anyone is looking to sell, lmk.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: swimmingbird on Tue, 25 April 2017, 04:32:18
Isn't Originative going to be selling them?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: merutz on Tue, 25 April 2017, 05:21:52
Isn't Originative going to be selling them?

From what I know, they are exclusive to the Exent. They will not be sold outside of this GB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Tue, 25 April 2017, 08:13:14
Isn't Originative going to be selling them?

There are going to be some available through Originative afterwards, I believe that try purchased a couple through this group buy with the express intent of keeping stock and reselling. Prices will be inflated as a result though.

From what I know, they are exclusive to the Exent. They will not be sold outside of this GB.

Isn't Originative going to be selling them?

From what I know, they are exclusive to the Exent. They will not be sold outside of this GB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: gaunt on Fri, 28 April 2017, 06:45:27
I'm looking for someone to take over my order, it's a silver Exent with a silver aluminum bottom (base kit 198$, silver aluminum bottom +30$, shipping 40$ and fee 12.66$ for a total of 280.66$). Juahenza's told me it's still possible to change colour for someone taking over, though I assume you can't opt out of the aluminum bottom. Proof: http://i.imgur.com/6vcOSkh.jpg.

If interested, PM me here or on reddit (u/gauntz).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: h3xadat on Fri, 28 April 2017, 07:52:26
I'm looking for someone to take over my order, it's a silver Exent with a silver aluminum bottom (base kit 198$, silver aluminum bottom +30$, shipping 40$ and fee 12.66$ for a total of 280.66$). Juahenza's told me it's still possible to change colour for someone taking over, though I assume you can't opt out of the aluminum bottom. Proof: http://i.imgur.com/6vcOSkh.jpg.

If interested, PM me here or on reddit (u/gauntz).

PM sent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Gettys on Fri, 28 April 2017, 14:27:58
Anybody heard anything about how the production is going?  Just wanted to check in on how things were coming along.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Data on Fri, 28 April 2017, 14:56:24
Anybody heard anything about how the production is going?  Just wanted to check in on how things were coming along.
A few production photos would be killer.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 28 April 2017, 17:32:33
Anybody heard anything about how the production is going?  Just wanted to check in on how things were coming along.
A few production photos would be killer.

I can feel the hype building. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: popkorn62 on Fri, 28 April 2017, 17:46:59
I cannot wait for this. A lot of boards gonna get delivered this year. So excited!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 01 May 2017, 23:18:20
Hi everyone.
Made a pixel Exent based off of Sealcouch's keyboard signatures w/ the GMK keys that come with the Premium kit.
Feel free to use it :)

(http://i.imgur.com/SWvMuU0.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 01 May 2017, 23:31:31
Hi everyone.
Made a pixel Exent based off of Sealcouch's keyboard signatures w/ the GMK keys that come with the Premium kit.
Feel free to use it :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SWvMuU0.png)


Can you do all the colors?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Mon, 01 May 2017, 23:33:10
Hi everyone.
Made a pixel Exent based off of Sealcouch's keyboard signatures w/ the GMK keys that come with the Premium kit.
Feel free to use it :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SWvMuU0.png)


emorior link=topic=87213.msg2415706#msg2415706 date=1493698700]
Hi everyone.
Made a pixel Exent based off of Sealcouch's keyboard signatures w/ the GMK keys that come with the Premium kit.
Feel free to use it :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SWvMuU0.png)


Can you do all the colors?
[/quote]

I think he meant thank you. :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 01 May 2017, 23:34:08
Hi everyone.
Made a pixel Exent based off of Sealcouch's keyboard signatures w/ the GMK keys that come with the Premium kit.
Feel free to use it :)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/SWvMuU0.png)


Can you do all the colors?

yeah didn't even think of doing that :) i'll post again when i have all of them
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 01 May 2017, 23:43:41
Black:

(http://i.imgur.com/L2uOHam.png)

Silver:

(http://i.imgur.com/wC6Z1Le.png)

Grey:

(http://i.imgur.com/JdXDS0t.png)

Blue:

(http://i.imgur.com/MvNkDP9.png)

Pink:

(http://i.imgur.com/jitwopg.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 02 May 2017, 00:14:18
Black:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/L2uOHam.png)


Silver:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wC6Z1Le.png)


Grey:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/JdXDS0t.png)


Blue:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MvNkDP9.png)


Pink:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/jitwopg.png)

<3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: demorior on Tue, 02 May 2017, 01:10:22
Black:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/L2uOHam.png)


Silver:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wC6Z1Le.png)


Grey:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/JdXDS0t.png)


Blue:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MvNkDP9.png)


Pink:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/jitwopg.png)

<3

Love my Aconic Goos that I got! Huge fan.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 02 May 2017, 01:30:36
Black:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/L2uOHam.png)


Silver:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/wC6Z1Le.png)


Grey:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/JdXDS0t.png)


Blue:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/MvNkDP9.png)


Pink:

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/jitwopg.png)



Dope tits
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dr_derivative on Tue, 02 May 2017, 07:45:18
I did some pixel art too, I hope you don't mind. Here's the Exent with XDA Canvas, GMK Laser and SA Dasher

(http://i.imgur.com/IzRUfWb.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/0KVIagN.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/ALsTW9S.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: eddible on Tue, 02 May 2017, 09:26:33
The pink one with Laser looks so awesome!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: demorior on Tue, 02 May 2017, 10:58:28
I did some pixel art too, I hope you don't mind. Here's the Exent with XDA Canvas, GMK Laser and SA Dasher

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/IzRUfWb.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0KVIagN.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ALsTW9S.png)


This makes me so excited to see what keys people end up putting on their boards!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 02 May 2017, 11:32:21
I did some pixel art too, I hope you don't mind. Here's the Exent with XDA Canvas, GMK Laser and SA Dasher

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/IzRUfWb.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0KVIagN.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ALsTW9S.png)


This makes me so excited to see what keys people end up putting on their boards!

SA Ashen:https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keysets/products/sa-max-ashen . Can you maybe do a pixel art for that keyset? On silver.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dr_derivative on Tue, 02 May 2017, 13:32:57
SA Ashen:https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keysets/products/sa-max-ashen . Can you maybe do a pixel art for that keyset? On silver.

(http://i.imgur.com/o2Ok4T0.png)

Here you go!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 02 May 2017, 14:17:23
SA Ashen:https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keysets/products/sa-max-ashen . Can you maybe do a pixel art for that keyset? On silver.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/o2Ok4T0.png)


Here you go!

You da dopest.

Anyone wanna do pixel art for the F62/F77?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dr_derivative on Tue, 02 May 2017, 15:28:51
Here's one of each

(http://i.imgur.com/0TYPuzI.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ak8ZLSo.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 02 May 2017, 20:14:40
Here's one of each

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/0TYPuzI.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Ak8ZLSo.png)


So tite
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dubious on Wed, 03 May 2017, 16:23:58
Anybody heard anything about how the production is going?  Just wanted to check in on how things were coming along.
A few production photos would be killer.

I can feel the hype building.

also curious about this...

I saw m65 moving along on time, is Exent done by the same manufacturer?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 03 May 2017, 20:55:43
Anybody heard anything about how the production is going?  Just wanted to check in on how things were coming along.
A few production photos would be killer.

I can feel the hype building.

also curious about this...

I saw m65 moving along on time, is Exent done by the same manufacturer?
We are still in schedule to start shipping in late June. I am too waiting for some pictures from the manufacturer. EXENT will be done by a different manufacturer.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dubious on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:49:05
Anybody heard anything about how the production is going?  Just wanted to check in on how things were coming along.
A few production photos would be killer.

I can feel the hype building.

also curious about this...

I saw m65 moving along on time, is Exent done by the same manufacturer?
We are still in schedule to start shipping in late June. I am too waiting for some pictures from the manufacturer. EXENT will be done by a different manufacturer.

thank you sir! ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Fri, 05 May 2017, 19:11:06
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: neon_tom on Fri, 05 May 2017, 19:23:08
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?

This sounds super cool. I'd definitely be interested.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: flyingpike on Fri, 05 May 2017, 19:31:50
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?

Yes, interested. Bought two Exents. Have never tried ortho but would love to on one of these. Would keep my from buying a preonic too so I could dump more $$$ into keycaps...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: U47 on Sat, 06 May 2017, 23:01:47
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?
God yes.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dib_dubious on Sat, 06 May 2017, 23:06:45
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?

I'd be interested in an ortho layout as well for both boards.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: yuktsi on Sun, 07 May 2017, 00:47:37
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?

I'd be interested in an ortho layout as well for both boards.
how does ortho layout look like?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: ntw on Sun, 07 May 2017, 05:13:37
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?

I'd be interested in an ortho layout as well for both boards.
how does ortho layout look like?

its those layouts that are lined up perfectly, eg Planck

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b0/3e/87/b03e876a08b29a9e17cd42e67a491205.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: speedemonv12 on Sun, 07 May 2017, 06:45:14
That could be cool in a board like this.

Side note, can anyone tell me if hotlites will work with this PCB? If so, which ones?

Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: leoparder on Sun, 07 May 2017, 16:23:50
A couple people (myself and Wootpatoot, over on r/mk) are planning on doing alternate ortho switchplates and pcb's for the M65-A. I'd love to do one for the Exent as well. I'm on ortho nearly 100% of the time, and I think both these boards would make amazing platforms for ortho setups. Would anybody here be at all interested in that?


Very interesting ! Can we leave an email somewhere ?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Mon, 08 May 2017, 13:38:02
Oh, I'll for sure speak up again about it when I determine if it's feasible! I'll need to have the board in-hand first. Glad to see at least a few people are interested, since that makes making PCBs a tiny bit cheaper.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Wed, 10 May 2017, 15:58:10
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: sachin3767 on Wed, 10 May 2017, 16:43:33
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Wed, 10 May 2017, 17:01:41
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
 


Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Wed, 10 May 2017, 17:25:12
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
 


Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!
Wow, quite a board to start with!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 10 May 2017, 17:30:30
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.

The LEDs aren't presoldered?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Wed, 10 May 2017, 17:32:00
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
 


Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!
Wow, quite a board to start with!


Haha I couldn't agree more. I've become pretty close with Rama since the Gb started. The M65 was the first board I saw that really brought me into this community and I missed it by about a week. I spent more than a month trying to decide on what board to dive in on. I couldn't have made a better choice. So eager to get this project going. My other choices were a Das ultimate, the POK3R rgb, or a ducky 5.  I also picked up a Glorious Modular for my wife which is fantastic. I'm a writer, and I realized the keyboard really should be the centerpiece of my world. So RAMA wins.

RAMA always wins.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: cynviloq on Wed, 10 May 2017, 18:10:01
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.

The LEDs aren't presoldered?

RGB underglow should already be attached, but individual in-switch LEDs for obvious reasons do not come pre-assembled.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 10 May 2017, 21:43:05
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.

The LEDs aren't presoldered?

RGB underglow should already be attached, but individual in-switch LEDs for obvious reasons do not come pre-assembled.

Ya that's what I meant. I don't plan on putting LED switches in, but I wanted to make sure the underglow was pre-installed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: rustywok on Wed, 10 May 2017, 22:17:16
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
 


Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!

I've been looking around for soldering tutorials and a few people have mentioned this guy. It's a 3 part you tube tutorial and the basic soldering techniques are really well explained. Not keyboard specific but still pretty valuable for people just starting out...of which I include myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=5.845611 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=5.845611)

EDIT: The first two tutorials are the ones to watch. The third one is for more advanced soldering.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Wed, 10 May 2017, 22:21:11
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
 


Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!

I've been looking around for soldering tutorials and a few people have mentioned this guy. It's a 3 part you tube tutorial and the basic soldering techniques are really well explained. Not keyboard specific but still pretty valuable for people just starting out...of which I include myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=5.845611 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=5.845611)

EDIT: The first two tutorials are the ones to watch. The third one is for more advanced soldering.
 

Ahh thanks man! I was watching the series I found on input club but I will watch this now. You're the best!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: sachin3767 on Thu, 11 May 2017, 00:42:12
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
 


Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!

I've been looking around for soldering tutorials and a few people have mentioned this guy. It's a 3 part you tube tutorial and the basic soldering techniques are really well explained. Not keyboard specific but still pretty valuable for people just starting out...of which I include myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=5.845611 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYz5nIHH0iY#t=5.845611)

EDIT: The first two tutorials are the ones to watch. The third one is for more advanced soldering.
 

Ahh thanks man! I was watching the series I found on input club but I will watch this now. You're the best!

I agree, those videos helped me too. There is a few people that have done live keyboard soldering videos. Check out skiwithpete https://m.youtube.com/user/skiwithpete

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 12 May 2017, 13:09:56
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
 

Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!

You will do great!  My first was an ErgoDox (original) and the SMDs were difficult to learn on.  Remember, heat the element (post) and push solder in.  Don't heat solder and expect it to stick to a cold post.  Try to keep solder for each switch to a minimum.  Clean little cones of metal.  Just shoot for those.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Fri, 12 May 2017, 13:54:19
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
 

Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!

You will do great!  My first was an ErgoDox (original) and the SMDs were difficult to learn on.  Remember, heat the element (post) and push solder in.  Don't heat solder and expect it to stick to a cold post.  Try to keep solder for each switch to a minimum.  Clean little cones of metal.  Just shoot for those.
  OCD tendencies strong. I am super excited to start this. Going to pick up that Hakka 888 and make sure I get lots of use out of it. Love this community.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 15 May 2017, 12:57:08
Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.

I don't think we ever got an official response on this. With added keys I'd like the set.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: PollandAkuma on Mon, 15 May 2017, 15:25:11
At first I hated it, but now I want one...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 15 May 2017, 23:41:08
Any status updates on the GMK?

I too would like to know if the set will be expanded so i can think about making a different bottom row  :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 16 May 2017, 18:20:28
Maybe a dumb question, I just can't remember if the deluxe version comes preassembled or not? I feel like I remember reading it was, but can't seem to find the proof. Thanks in advance.

It's not a dumb question - the diodes and smd components are preassembled. You have to solder in the switches and LEDs.
 

Oh thank you! It will be the first board I have to assemble myself. A bit nervous. A lot excited. I'm sure I can find some resources, but is there anywhere you could point me for first time doing so? Thanks in advance!

You will do great!  My first was an ErgoDox (original) and the SMDs were difficult to learn on.  Remember, heat the element (post) and push solder in.  Don't heat solder and expect it to stick to a cold post.  Try to keep solder for each switch to a minimum.  Clean little cones of metal.  Just shoot for those.
  OCD tendencies strong. I am super excited to start this. Going to pick up that Hakka 888 and make sure I get lots of use out of it. Love this community.

It's great.  And it's so rare to meet a keyboarder in real life, so when we have meetups, it's a lot of fun!  hoping we get that expanded GMK set!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: sherryton on Tue, 16 May 2017, 18:43:38
Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.

I don't think we ever got an official response on this. With added keys I'd like the set.

We wanted to add it, but there wasn't a lot of feedback on it. We ended up omitting it. The set is in track for August, 2017.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Wed, 17 May 2017, 12:25:23
When is this scheduled to ship? Do we have to wait on the keyset?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: zurikade on Wed, 17 May 2017, 12:55:26
Keyboards are on track to ship late June
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dubious on Wed, 17 May 2017, 13:40:19
Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.

I don't think we ever got an official response on this. With added keys I'd like the set.

We wanted to add it, but there wasn't a lot of feedback on it. We ended up omitting it. The set is in track for August, 2017.

Keyboards are on track to ship late June


When is this scheduled to ship? Do we have to wait on the keyset?

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 17 May 2017, 22:37:59
Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.

I don't think we ever got an official response on this. With added keys I'd like the set.

We wanted to add it, but there wasn't a lot of feedback on it. We ended up omitting it. The set is in track for August, 2017.

Keyboards are on track to ship late June


When is this scheduled to ship? Do we have to wait on the keyset?
Unfortunately for those who have opted for the premium kit, you will need to wait on the keyset.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: dubious on Thu, 18 May 2017, 00:06:02
Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.

I don't think we ever got an official response on this. With added keys I'd like the set.

We wanted to add it, but there wasn't a lot of feedback on it. We ended up omitting it. The set is in track for August, 2017.

Keyboards are on track to ship late June


When is this scheduled to ship? Do we have to wait on the keyset?
Unfortunately for those who have opted for the premium kit, you will need to wait on the keyset.

Thanks jauhenza! that's fine, was just curious  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 18 May 2017, 11:41:23
Was there any word on adding the GMK keys if the set was expanded? I passed because of budget and stuff I felt the set was missing, and if I have the option to add it now in it's expanded state I'd like to do so.

I don't think we ever got an official response on this. With added keys I'd like the set.

We wanted to add it, but there wasn't a lot of feedback on it. We ended up omitting it. The set is in track for August, 2017.

Keyboards are on track to ship late June


When is this scheduled to ship? Do we have to wait on the keyset?
Unfortunately for those who have opted for the premium kit, you will need to wait on the keyset.

That's completely fine :)
Thanks for answering the concern! :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 18 May 2017, 16:30:34
so.. what? sorry, i have not been tracking this lately. the premium kit is going to ship with a GMK set that does not support all the layouts that the pcb supports?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 18 May 2017, 16:35:22
so.. what? sorry, i have not been tracking this lately. the premium kit is going to ship with a GMK set that does not support all the layouts that the pcb supports?

The GMK set is going to ship with the set that was listed with the premium kit, http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 18 May 2017, 17:16:43
so.. what? sorry, i have not been tracking this lately. the premium kit is going to ship with a GMK set that does not support all the layouts that the pcb supports?

The GMK set is going to ship with the set that was listed with the premium kit, http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png

yeah, that set will not cover all the layouts possible by the pcb. so - a person may end up with a kit and keyset that dont work together, depending on the layout they want to use :/

(http://i.imgur.com/6cDtc79.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)


Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: eddible on Fri, 19 May 2017, 00:59:19
While you are correct, I don't think the GMK set needs to necessarily cover all possible layouts. The kit is designed to cover the most popular layouts, people will need to use a different keyset to cover anything more unusual. I assume this is a cost thing, the premium bundle is great value considering it includes a GMK keyset.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 19 May 2017, 16:10:51
While you are correct, I don't think the GMK set needs to necessarily cover all possible layouts. The kit is designed to cover the most popular layouts, people will need to use a different keyset to cover anything more unusual. I assume this is a cost thing, the premium bundle is great value considering it includes a GMK keyset.

The GMK set covers a single layout in ANSI and ISO.  So if you want the stock setup of the board, it works, otherwise, it doesn't.  I don't see it covering anything 'usual' let alone anything unusual.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Fri, 19 May 2017, 16:13:16
While you are correct, I don't think the GMK set needs to necessarily cover all possible layouts. The kit is designed to cover the most popular layouts, people will need to use a different keyset to cover anything more unusual. I assume this is a cost thing, the premium bundle is great value considering it includes a GMK keyset.

The GMK set covers a single layout in ANSI and ISO.  So if you want the stock setup of the board, it works, otherwise, it doesn't.  I don't see it covering anything 'usual' let alone anything unusual.

Those two layouts are pretty usual.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: eddible on Fri, 19 May 2017, 16:25:09
While you are correct, I don't think the GMK set needs to necessarily cover all possible layouts. The kit is designed to cover the most popular layouts, people will need to use a different keyset to cover anything more unusual. I assume this is a cost thing, the premium bundle is great value considering it includes a GMK keyset.

The GMK set covers a single layout in ANSI and ISO.  So if you want the stock setup of the board, it works, otherwise, it doesn't.  I don't see it covering anything 'usual' let alone anything unusual.

Those two layouts are pretty usual.
Exactly, what usual layout do you want this to cover? I see it's missing (please say if I'm wrong or missed anything):
* Split backspace (unusual layout)
* 3x 1u modifiers right of spacebar (shown in renders, posts here suggest PCB supports it)
* 2.75 right shift (unusual for a 65% layout as the 1.75 shift with arrow key is a big selling point of the layout. So it isn't going to cover a standard 60%, but that isn't the purpose of the kit.)

Considering the price of the keyset in the context of the premium kit, I'm struggling to understand the frustration. Every extra key adds cost, I think what's being provided is a great compromise between coverage and cost.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 19 May 2017, 16:45:10
split backspace and 3x1u modifiers are not any more unusual than the 65% layout itself. in fact, i think those keys are becoming more common for custom kits like this.

the underlying issue is that community input was not taken into consideration before ordering the caps. i would not be surprised to see an "add-on" kit to fix compatibility issues after exent gb is done  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: eddible on Fri, 19 May 2017, 16:55:11
Maybe you're right. I suppose with the premium kit being only ~$80 more than the standard kit,  and that's for more than just the keyset, I can only assume it was very price sensitive.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Fri, 19 May 2017, 17:10:37
Maybe you're right. I suppose with the premium kit being only ~$80 more than the standard kit,  and that's for more than just the keyset, I can only assume it was very price sensitive.

Yeah $80 for the caps plus extras is cheap af. Gotta be a pricing issue. That said, including a few extra blanks probably wouldn't break the bank and would allow for a little more variety.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Pwner on Mon, 22 May 2017, 05:43:00
I wouldn't have minded seeing keys for a split backspace and a stepped capslock, other than that I'm fine with the set as is.

It would be cool to maybe see an add-on kit with some other options and maybe a few different colored accent keys, then again I already don't want to wait until August for this let alone the wait for more caps that I don't really need.  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 22 May 2017, 13:23:21
I wouldn't have minded seeing keys for a split backspace and a stepped capslock, other than that I'm fine with the set as is.

It would be cool to maybe see an add-on kit with some other options and maybe a few different colored accent keys, then again I already don't want to wait until August for this let alone the wait for more caps that I don't really need.  :))

You know.  That's a good outlook.  I'm in the same place and have terminal coming for this board anyway.   :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: jacky on Mon, 22 May 2017, 22:58:20
So nice :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Koojahyung on Tue, 23 May 2017, 23:54:28
I wanna buy this keyboard...
it is so complicated...I send GB. How can I buy this keyboard???
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Tue, 23 May 2017, 23:58:03
I wanna buy this keyboard...
it is so complicated...I send GB. How can I buy this keyboard???
The group buy has been over for a while but there may be extras when all the shipping is done.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (Collecting Payments)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 24 May 2017, 02:40:36
I wanna buy this keyboard...
it is so complicated...I send GB. How can I buy this keyboard???

GB is over. You will need to wait until after order have shipped and see if extras are offered
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: canigetanipa on Fri, 26 May 2017, 16:30:43
Does anyone know how I might be able to change an option on my GB order? I tried contacting Sam by email but didn't get a response, is there someone that might be able to pm? Thank you
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 26 May 2017, 18:40:29
Does anyone know how I might be able to change an option on my GB order? I tried contacting Sam by email but didn't get a response, is there someone that might be able to pm? Thank you

Try Pm'ing juahenza (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53049)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Fri, 26 May 2017, 18:49:23
Does anyone know how I might be able to change an option on my GB order? I tried contacting Sam by email but didn't get a response, is there someone that might be able to pm? Thank you

Although I don't have it off the top of my head, email them (email is listed on PayPal). I had to change my delivery address and they were very fast in fixing that!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: canigetanipa on Fri, 26 May 2017, 19:00:03
Yeah, I emailed the pp email address several times without any response. Will try PMing. Thanks
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Fri, 26 May 2017, 19:33:56
Yeah, I emailed the pp email address several times without any response. Will try PMing. Thanks
  it can take some time (sometimes even a couple weeks)  but I always get a response and they always solve my problem. Yuk Tsi has also been a big help. If you don't mind me asking what was the issue, maybe someone here can answer it for you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: canigetanipa on Fri, 26 May 2017, 20:47:20
I just wanted to change my base colorway from Grey to Silver, thanks for the help.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Sat, 27 May 2017, 12:56:37
I just wanted to change my base colorway from Grey to Silver, thanks for the help.
:thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Mon, 29 May 2017, 12:24:25
Hello juahenza, I just followed up on a PM to you about taking over sushi's Exent order. Can you take a look? Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: merutz on Mon, 29 May 2017, 12:58:18
Any new ETA since we are almost entering week 14?  :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Mon, 29 May 2017, 15:34:17
Any new ETA since we are almost entering week 14?  :)
  after I added my second base I was told shipping is on track for late June.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Tue, 30 May 2017, 12:36:34
As we get closer, I become more unsure if I have all the information I need to make sure I can make this board as awesome as it deserves. Currently my order comes with the Gateron Blacks, but I've been more and more curious about Zealios switches. If I got the additional brass-plate, does that mean I would need plate-mounted switches? As I've stated in a previous comment, this will be my first true board, definitely first one I've had to build. Currently using a Glorious Modular, which is pretty great, but I haven't been able to justify the purchase of anything else until I get my hands on this (and return from vacation to California after next week.)  I've been doing a lot of research into many aspects and will be purchasing a Hakka to ensure soldering goes as smoothly as possible. I'm just wondering if there's anything else I should be considering as we approach the end of production.

Love you all, this community is the place to be. Only been here since February, but I will probably never leave. <3

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 30 May 2017, 12:41:57
As we get closer, I become more unsure if I have all the information I need to make sure I can make this board as awesome as it deserves. Currently my order comes with the Gateron Blacks, but I've been more and more curious about Zealios switches. If I got the additional brass-plate, does that mean I would need plate-mounted switches? As I've stated in a previous comment, this will be my first true board, definitely first one I've had to build. Currently using a Glorious Modular, which is pretty great, but I haven't been able to justify the purchase of anything else until I get my hands on this (and return from vacation to California after next week.)  I've been doing a lot of research into many aspects and will be purchasing a Hakka to ensure soldering goes as smoothly as possible. I'm just wondering if there's anything else I should be considering as we approach the end of production.

Love you all, this community is the place to be. Only been here since February, but I will probably never leave. <3
Both pcb and plate mounted switches will work well on exent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Tue, 30 May 2017, 12:49:37
As we get closer, I become more unsure if I have all the information I need to make sure I can make this board as awesome as it deserves. Currently my order comes with the Gateron Blacks, but I've been more and more curious about Zealios switches. If I got the additional brass-plate, does that mean I would need plate-mounted switches? As I've stated in a previous comment, this will be my first true board, definitely first one I've had to build. Currently using a Glorious Modular, which is pretty great, but I haven't been able to justify the purchase of anything else until I get my hands on this (and return from vacation to California after next week.)  I've been doing a lot of research into many aspects and will be purchasing a Hakka to ensure soldering goes as smoothly as possible. I'm just wondering if there's anything else I should be considering as we approach the end of production.

Love you all, this community is the place to be. Only been here since February, but I will probably never leave. <3
Both pcb and plate mounted switches will work well on exent.

thank you dear Yuktsi <3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Tue, 30 May 2017, 18:12:06
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 31 May 2017, 10:02:24
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.
Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.

Thank you. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 31 May 2017, 13:01:18
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.
Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.

Thank you.

Have fun at Computex!   :cool: Thanks for the update.  :thumb:

MaNiFeX
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Wed, 31 May 2017, 17:13:56
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.
Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.

Thank you.

Thanks for that and enjoy yourselves at Computex.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 31 May 2017, 22:50:29
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.
Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.

Thank you.

Can't wait to see the SS Feet! Enjoy Computex, grab one of those new I9 extremes for me ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sherryton on Sat, 03 June 2017, 18:03:58
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.
Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.

Thank you.

Can't wait to see the SS Feet! Enjoy Computex, grab one of those new I9 extremes for me ;)

I finally got to take a look at the case. It's freaking amazing, Rama. :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Jokrik on Sat, 03 June 2017, 18:55:32
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.
Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.

Thank you.

Can't wait to see the SS Feet! Enjoy Computex, grab one of those new I9 extremes for me ;)

I finally got to take a look at the case. It's freaking amazing, Rama. :)

You sure it's not the beer?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sherryton on Sat, 03 June 2017, 18:56:34
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.
Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.

Thank you.

Can't wait to see the SS Feet! Enjoy Computex, grab one of those new I9 extremes for me ;)

I finally got to take a look at the case. It's freaking amazing, Rama. :)

You sure it's not the beer?

well, it was definitely hard because you were so handsome so maybe i was staring at you and not the exent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Jokrik on Sat, 03 June 2017, 18:57:39
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.
Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.

Thank you.

Can't wait to see the SS Feet! Enjoy Computex, grab one of those new I9 extremes for me ;)

I finally got to take a look at the case. It's freaking amazing, Rama. :)

You sure it's not the beer?

well, it was definitely hard because you were so handsome so maybe i was staring at you and not the exent.

Hahaha... pls
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Sat, 03 June 2017, 19:49:15
Like a few others, I am also after progress updates? Any further manufacturing images? Or anything really.
Juahenza and I are at Taipei now for Computex. The top and feet are almost done for the machining. We will get some pic next week.

Thank you.

Can't wait to see the SS Feet! Enjoy Computex, grab one of those new I9 extremes for me ;)

I finally got to take a look at the case. It's freaking amazing, Rama. :)

You sure it's not the beer?

well, it was definitely hard because you were so handsome so maybe i was staring at you and not the exent.

Hahaha... pls
  Can love bloom on a keyboard forum? Yes.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 03 June 2017, 21:30:11
I hope there are extras or someone backs out. I really want an endgame keyboard. I just missed sooooo many GB I woulda jumped on if I hadn't slacked on checking the forums >_<.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 03 June 2017, 21:52:14
I hope there are extras or someone backs out. I really want an endgame keyboard. I just missed sooooo many GB I woulda jumped on if I hadn't slacked on checking the forums >_<.


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It's been said somewhere in this thread that Originative will have extras.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Sun, 04 June 2017, 21:05:52
Can love bloom on a keyboard forum? Yes.
YES <3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: blacksimon on Mon, 05 June 2017, 03:06:52
Any idea on the number of kits sold in this GB?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Mon, 05 June 2017, 03:10:02
I'm already payment exent and My adress(in paypal) was wrong...(after payement,I found it and change to Correct adress. but it is not adjust what is already payments..)
and I can't understand geekhack messages system...(where is 'sent message box' ?!!)
and also I'm not good at english...So I am in headache....
I'm so sorry confusing you(to Juahenza).. T.T
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 05 June 2017, 13:45:59
I'm already payment exent and My adress(in paypal) was wrong...(after payement,I found it and change to Correct adress. but it is not adjust what is already payments..)
and I can't understand geekhack messages system...(where is 'sent message box' ?!!)
and also I'm not good at english...So I am in headache....
I'm so sorry confusing you(to Juahenza).. T.T

If you need to PM Juahenza, click his name and click Send PM, or use this link and type his name in the 'to' field:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=pm

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Mon, 05 June 2017, 21:47:51
Any idea on the number of kits sold in this GB?
Not a lot. 100+

I'm already payment exent and My adress(in paypal) was wrong...(after payement,I found it and change to Correct adress. but it is not adjust what is already payments..)
and I can't understand geekhack messages system...(where is 'sent message box' ?!!)
and also I'm not good at english...So I am in headache....
I'm so sorry confusing you(to Juahenza).. T.T
I believe he had already corrected the address and responded to you  :)) :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Panzerhawx on Tue, 06 June 2017, 03:13:48
Where can we check the address we put down, for the order?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Tue, 06 June 2017, 07:35:05
Any idea on the number of kits sold in this GB?
Not a lot. 100+

I'm already payment exent and My adress(in paypal) was wrong...(after payement,I found it and change to Correct adress. but it is not adjust what is already payments..)
and I can't understand geekhack messages system...(where is 'sent message box' ?!!)
and also I'm not good at english...So I am in headache....
I'm so sorry confusing you(to Juahenza).. T.T
I believe he had already corrected the address and responded to you  :)) :))

yes,i got answer. maybe no problem:) thanks for your answer.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 06 June 2017, 08:21:44
Where can we check the address we put down, for the order?
You may check with Juahenza or me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 07 June 2017, 02:08:07
As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.

(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 07 June 2017, 02:26:51
As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)


Please bring me that CNC machine brother! Looks like production is going great, cannot wait to have one in my hands :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 07 June 2017, 02:46:27
As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)


Please bring me that CNC machine brother! Looks like production is going great, cannot wait to have one in my hands :)
That machine is huge bro. Bigger than my room back in Hong Kong.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 07 June 2017, 02:53:26
Aaaah that's so exciting! Love pictures like this, aren't many hobbies where you get this insight into the production. Can't wait!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Wed, 07 June 2017, 05:09:04
As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)


Thanks so much for sharing. I can only guess all those folded newspapers are Exents, so... we are nearly there?
And the feet in the third look hefty.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wongie on Wed, 07 June 2017, 06:09:45
As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)


So much bezel!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 07 June 2017, 06:33:25
As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)


Thanks so much for sharing. I can only guess all those folded newspapers are Exents, so... we are nearly there?
And the feet in the third look hefty.
Yeah, there's actually another stack of them.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Wed, 07 June 2017, 09:47:57
As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/dbJG8wul.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/xo5Nkjll.jpg)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/YQUVfuBl.jpg)


Thanks so much for sharing. I can only guess all those folded newspapers are Exents, so... we are nearly there?
And the feet in the third look hefty.
Yeah, there's actually another stack of them.

How close would you say we are to seeing a shipped product?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 07 June 2017, 11:32:43
I wonder if mine has been machined yet or not...

At any rate, I want that shop. I want that shop real bad.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: moonmaster on Wed, 07 June 2017, 14:10:53
I just realized I didn't pay my invoice even though I though I did. Can I still do it?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Troif on Wed, 07 June 2017, 16:21:58
is it possible to change color from GREY to BLACK @juahenza?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Wed, 07 June 2017, 19:00:20
So much tease.. waaant it already!!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mrdar206 on Wed, 07 June 2017, 20:07:42
Luckily, I ordered two  :)) :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Wed, 07 June 2017, 20:08:15
I just don't know how much more of life I can take without this keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Foreman on Wed, 07 June 2017, 22:55:23
Does anybody know what kind of USB connector it has? I want to get in on the Miami Dolch cables on Massdrop.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 08 June 2017, 01:41:50
Does anybody know what kind of USB connector it has? I want to get in on the Miami Dolch cables on Massdrop.
Mini
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Foreman on Thu, 08 June 2017, 02:43:06
Does anybody know what kind of USB connector it has? I want to get in on the Miami Dolch cables on Massdrop.
Mini
Thank yoU! :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mniels on Thu, 08 June 2017, 14:41:58
Looking to sell my spot if anyone is interested.  Gray top, poly case, 8 degree, brass switch plate.  Message me if you are interested....
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 08 June 2017, 23:47:20
Looking to sell my spot if anyone is interested.  Gray top, poly case, 8 degree, brass switch plate.  Message me if you are interested....

Did you have switches/caps?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: stand.geek on Fri, 09 June 2017, 00:57:00
Looking to sell my spot if anyone is interested.  Gray top, poly case, 8 degree, brass switch plate.  Message me if you are interested....

Interested. PMed
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mniels on Fri, 09 June 2017, 09:10:56
Looking to sell my spot if anyone is interested.  Gray top, poly case, 8 degree, brass switch plate.  Message me if you are interested....


It is spoken for.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Tue, 13 June 2017, 02:00:49
Just been looking at all the photos from people receiving GMK Terminal. Can't wait to see it on someone's black EXENT!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 13 June 2017, 12:30:36
Just been looking at all the photos from people receiving GMK Terminal. Can't wait to see it on someone's black EXENT!

That's my plan!  With green LEDs.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Tue, 13 June 2017, 12:45:13
Just been looking at all the photos from people receiving GMK Terminal. Can't wait to see it on someone's black EXENT!

That's my plan!  With green LEDs.
Nice! Looking forward to seeing it. I went for blue and shall be pairing it with Godspeed!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 13 June 2017, 14:44:58
Just been looking at all the photos from people receiving GMK Terminal. Can't wait to see it on someone's black EXENT!

That's my plan!  With green LEDs.
Nice! Looking forward to seeing it. I went for blue and shall be pairing it with Godspeed!

Nice!!!  I'm really looking forward to seeing all the variety!  I heard someone got pink for that 80s themed set.  That should look really good, too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 13 June 2017, 16:13:02
Just been looking at all the photos from people receiving GMK Terminal. Can't wait to see it on someone's black EXENT!

That's my plan!  With green LEDs.
Nice! Looking forward to seeing it. I went for blue and shall be pairing it with Godspeed!

That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 13 June 2017, 22:17:27
That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png

Funny you should link that pic: I'm probably going to put Oblivion on my Exent. At least to see what it looks like. I have GMK though.

The set I'm planning to use full time is Nantucket, but I'm not sure how it's going to look on this board. Time will tell.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 13 June 2017, 23:26:28
That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png

Funny you should link that pic: I'm probably going to put Oblivion on my Exent. At least to see what it looks like. I have GMK though.

The set I'm planning to use full time is Nantucket, but I'm not sure how it's going to look on this board. Time will tell.

Honestly I think the exent screams SA profile. I adore cherry profile, but I don't think it makes any sense on this keyboard. We'll see though.

Ashen and oblivion are pretty close, just ashen isn't 8 million dollars and I'm currently typing on it right now as opposed to waiting for it until early 2030.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 14 June 2017, 13:27:16
That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png

Funny you should link that pic: I'm probably going to put Oblivion on my Exent. At least to see what it looks like. I have GMK though.

The set I'm planning to use full time is Nantucket, but I'm not sure how it's going to look on this board. Time will tell.

Honestly I think the exent screams SA profile. I adore cherry profile, but I don't think it makes any sense on this keyboard. We'll see though.

Ashen and oblivion are pretty close, just ashen isn't 8 million dollars and I'm currently typing on it right now as opposed to waiting for it until early 2030.

I was thinking of going with blue pulse on black, too, but SA is so wobbly.  Any switches where this is less noticeable?  I tried on my Gaterons and it was not the best typing experience for me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Wed, 14 June 2017, 23:17:27
That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png

Funny you should link that pic: I'm probably going to put Oblivion on my Exent. At least to see what it looks like. I have GMK though.

The set I'm planning to use full time is Nantucket, but I'm not sure how it's going to look on this board. Time will tell.

Honestly I think the exent screams SA profile. I adore cherry profile, but I don't think it makes any sense on this keyboard. We'll see though.

Ashen and oblivion are pretty close, just ashen isn't 8 million dollars and I'm currently typing on it right now as opposed to waiting for it until early 2030.

I was thinking of going with blue pulse on black, too, but SA is so wobbly.  Any switches where this is less noticeable?  I tried on my Gaterons and it was not the best typing experience for me.


I'd probably try a black or red; less moving parts?
Definitely not zealios. that **** wobbles like a bowling pin.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Wed, 14 June 2017, 23:50:47
Just been looking at all the photos from people receiving GMK Terminal. Can't wait to see it on someone's black EXENT!

That's my plan!  With green LEDs.

Same! You have good taste. ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Thu, 15 June 2017, 07:23:20
That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png

Funny you should link that pic: I'm probably going to put Oblivion on my Exent. At least to see what it looks like. I have GMK though.

The set I'm planning to use full time is Nantucket, but I'm not sure how it's going to look on this board. Time will tell.

Honestly I think the exent screams SA profile. I adore cherry profile, but I don't think it makes any sense on this keyboard. We'll see though.

Ashen and oblivion are pretty close, just ashen isn't 8 million dollars and I'm currently typing on it right now as opposed to waiting for it until early 2030.

I was thinking of going with blue pulse on black, too, but SA is so wobbly.  Any switches where this is less noticeable?  I tried on my Gaterons and it was not the best typing experience for me.
I heard Panda's have nearly no wobble, you might want to check it out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 15 June 2017, 11:53:36
That's gonna look great. I went for Silver to be paired with Ashen. Going for this look:http://i.imgur.com/q6Iwna2.png

Funny you should link that pic: I'm probably going to put Oblivion on my Exent. At least to see what it looks like. I have GMK though.

The set I'm planning to use full time is Nantucket, but I'm not sure how it's going to look on this board. Time will tell.

Honestly I think the exent screams SA profile. I adore cherry profile, but I don't think it makes any sense on this keyboard. We'll see though.

Ashen and oblivion are pretty close, just ashen isn't 8 million dollars and I'm currently typing on it right now as opposed to waiting for it until early 2030.

I was thinking of going with blue pulse on black, too, but SA is so wobbly.  Any switches where this is less noticeable?  I tried on my Gaterons and it was not the best typing experience for me.


I'd probably try a black or red; less moving parts?
Definitely not zealios. that **** wobbles like a bowling pin.

Zealios own the feelios.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Thu, 15 June 2017, 12:06:22
wobble has a minimal effect on typing experience IMHO..
SA/hi-pro caps will make this more noticeable
zealios do make the feelios and R4+ has improved on the wobbling

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Thu, 15 June 2017, 13:00:18
any thoughts on MT3 profile for this board? i know they don't exist out in the wild as yet, but there are similarities to SA profile.

I didn't know that zealios wobble a lot with SA?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Thu, 15 June 2017, 14:01:59
any thoughts on MT3 profile for this board? i know they don't exist out in the wild as yet, but there are similarities to SA profile.

I didn't know that zealios wobble a lot with SA?

high keycaps will exaggerate wobble on any switch.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Thu, 15 June 2017, 14:25:04
wobble has a minimal effect on typing experience IMHO..
SA/hi-pro caps will make this more noticeable
zealios do make the feelios and R4+ has improved on the wobbling

I'm doing a mixed zealios build on my extent actually, but they've been sitting in a box for months. can't wait to try them out though!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Tally810 on Thu, 15 June 2017, 15:49:53
any thoughts on MT3 profile for this board? i know they don't exist out in the wild as yet, but there are similarities to SA profile.

I didn't know that zealios wobble a lot with SA?
I have a board with zealios and honestly the wobble does not affect me at all.  The only time I notice it is when I rest my fingers on the keys and move them on purpose.  To me they are perfectly fine.

Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: stand.geek on Thu, 15 June 2017, 23:02:01
Anyone know if the PCB is holtite compatible for switch and LED?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Fri, 16 June 2017, 04:28:35
any thoughts on MT3 profile for this board? i know they don't exist out in the wild as yet, but there are similarities to SA profile.

I didn't know that zealios wobble a lot with SA?
I have a board with zealios and honestly the wobble does not affect me at all.  The only time I notice it is when I rest my fingers on the keys and move them on purpose.  To me they are perfectly fine.

Sent from my SM-G928V using Tapatalk
I have zealios as well but only use DSA caps at the moment. I have never noticed any wobble so this comment is reassuring.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Fri, 16 June 2017, 04:29:51
Anyone know if the PCB is holtite compatible for switch and LED?

This has been asked a few times and I don't think anyone knows the answer yet.
I can only guess the PCBs haven't been manufactured.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Fri, 16 June 2017, 06:27:34
Anyone know if the PCB is holtite compatible for switch and LED?

This has been asked a few times and I don't think anyone knows the answer yet.
I can only guess the PCBs haven't been manufactured.

I want to know this as well.
I grabbed some from KBDfans sometime ago and was thinking about reserving them for this build.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 16 June 2017, 06:31:42
For the cost of holtites, I found it to be easier just to add an extra plate and PCB to my order.  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: stand.geek on Fri, 16 June 2017, 22:56:15
For the cost of holtites, I found it to be easier just to add an extra plate and PCB to my order.  :))

LOL that's make sense!
never thought that  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sat, 17 June 2017, 00:05:08
For the cost of holtites, I found it to be easier just to add an extra plate and PCB to my order.  :))

Never had that thought,

but it'd run me $90 since i bought brass lol
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sat, 17 June 2017, 18:31:34
Any updates? Are you still expecting these to ship out later this month?

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Mon, 19 June 2017, 13:59:02
And is there any way to ensure International Tracking? I've been waiting on some Artisan caps sent through DHL for about two months, and am sad to think it'll be the same boat for my Exent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 19 June 2017, 14:34:13
And is there any way to ensure International Tracking? I've been waiting on some Artisan caps sent through DHL for about two months, and am sad to think it'll be the same boat for my Exent.

I don't think it's even remotely possible for something of this value/volume to be sent (especially internationally) without tracking and insurance.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Mon, 19 June 2017, 15:05:05
And is there any way to ensure International Tracking? I've been waiting on some Artisan caps sent through DHL for about two months, and am sad to think it'll be the same boat for my Exent.

I don't think it's even remotely possible for something of this value/volume to be sent (especially internationally) without tracking and insurance.

Yeah I would imagine so too, just trying to make sure that's all. My issue wasn't so much with the tracking but if it's done through DHL the information seems to stop as soon as it leaves the country of origin. In Canada I never get updated tracking info from DHL when it's in the country, it's always just a waiting game. :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 19 June 2017, 15:53:53
And is there any way to ensure International Tracking? I've been waiting on some Artisan caps sent through DHL for about two months, and am sad to think it'll be the same boat for my Exent.

I don't think it's even remotely possible for something of this value/volume to be sent (especially internationally) without tracking and insurance.

You'd be surprised.  International shipping is like international bank wires.  You just hope it makes it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 19 June 2017, 16:15:46
You'd be surprised.  International shipping is like international bank wires.  You just hope it makes it.

Never had a problem with tracking, I've only had one thing get lost in post so far (out of probably thousands) and it was untracked (and within the EU). I just don't think we'd be charged $40-60 for untracked shipping but maybe.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ggZyg on Mon, 19 June 2017, 22:51:18
the order form is open, can i still buy a kit?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Mon, 19 June 2017, 23:17:35
the order form is open, can i still buy a kit?

No.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: muni_chang on Wed, 21 June 2017, 23:42:03
As promised, here are some of the photos that I snapped from the factory this morning.

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Looking good and can they finish on time?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Fri, 23 June 2017, 16:09:01
Is this still expected to be shipped out at the end of this month?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Sun, 25 June 2017, 18:56:23
Any update on the shipping guys? Any kind of estimation would be really nice as its summer and it would suck to be away when it arrives.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 25 June 2017, 23:33:17
Any update on the shipping guys? Any kind of estimation would be really nice as its summer and it would suck to be away when it arrives.

Given that this has now been asked a number of times and not responded to, I'd also like to know how things are going?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 26 June 2017, 14:44:27
Silent judgement.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Mon, 26 June 2017, 14:50:57
Now that my Godspeed caps are in the post I'm suddenly very eager to get this board! Hope GMK don't delay the premium kit too much...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 26 June 2017, 15:06:16
it's been over 16 weeks. any estimates on when shipping will begin?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 26 June 2017, 15:17:38
Seriously  juahenza where are you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 26 June 2017, 17:33:12
Waiting for an update as well.

edit: if there's an update on the keyset as well it'd be appreciated.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Tue, 27 June 2017, 04:31:42
Now that my Godspeed caps are in the post I'm suddenly very eager to get this board! Hope GMK don't delay the premium kit too much...

It was said in the last few pages that the GMK kit would be ready in August, so we'll be waiting until then at least until ours ship.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: merutz on Tue, 27 June 2017, 04:35:25
August?  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Tue, 27 June 2017, 04:39:00
Now that my Godspeed caps are in the post I'm suddenly very eager to get this board! Hope GMK don't delay the premium kit too much...

It was said in the last few pages that the GMK kit would be ready in August, so we'll be waiting until then at least until ours ship.

Yeah I saw that. Just not delayed beyond August! I can handle another month or so.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Tue, 27 June 2017, 06:26:44
Now that my Godspeed caps are in the post I'm suddenly very eager to get this board! Hope GMK don't delay the premium kit too much...

It was said in the last few pages that the GMK kit would be ready in August, so we'll be waiting until then at least until ours ship.

Yeah I saw that. Just not delayed beyond August! I can handle another month or so.
I hear that!  Last few parts I need are on their way, I'm ready to build.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 27 June 2017, 06:35:11
juahenza plz
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Tue, 27 June 2017, 08:40:32
I imagine we are very close to done by now. Will boards ship for people who didn't order the GMK set once they complete production?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 27 June 2017, 12:12:46
So are we at this point

1) Nervous
2) Extremely Nervous
3) Completely hopeless
4) All of the above
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Saiph on Tue, 27 June 2017, 13:20:08
So are we at this point

1) Nervous
2) Extremely Nervous
3) Completely hopeless
4) All of the above

I'm personally not really nervous at all. It sucks that he isn't communicating but I've been in a few GBs where the GB runner disappears for a few weeks and then shows back up with an update.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 27 June 2017, 13:51:25
There were production photos of the actual keyboards posted, I don't think anyone has reasons to be nervous.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 27 June 2017, 14:13:30
So are we at this point

1) Nervous
2) Extremely Nervous
3) Completely hopeless
4) All of the above

Where is the option for "not even remotely nervous, because everything seems on track and not having this yet doesn't change my life in even the smallest way so I have nothing but patience however long it takes?" I'm actually typing this on a keyboard, so waiting for another one to ship, even if it takes longer than normal, isn't really hurting me at all
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 27 June 2017, 15:39:31
I'm actually typing this on a keyboard, so waiting for another one to ship, even if it takes longer than normal, isn't really hurting me at all

Speak for yourself!  Muh exent fibromyalgia is killin' me.   :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 27 June 2017, 15:43:13
So are we at this point

1) Nervous
2) Extremely Nervous
3) Completely hopeless
4) All of the above

A bit nervous, but other than that i can probably wait.
I do want an update on how the keyset is going so the ones who brought premium kits have a timeline on when it will ship.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Troif on Tue, 27 June 2017, 15:46:08
Be quiet. @juahenza is great at community. No worries if it is delayed a little. Running a new project is complicated, but nervous to have it on my hands asap!!!


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 27 June 2017, 16:42:05
Sorry for the lack of updates guys. We are having a long holiday here in Malaysia, been busy spending time with family.

As per last Thursday, the factory is still yet to start working on the bottoms. Things are much complicated that expected. It seems very likely that we can only start delivering in August. Treatments for the top housing is in progress, so color change is no longer possible. Machining for the stainless steel feet is almost done, they will then be sent for chemical polish and electro nickel plating.

As for those who missed the GB, extras will be available for sale later. We have incurred a huge MOQ to keep such premium kit such low price, only a little more than 50% is fulfilled if I remember correctly. Just send me a pm here if you have any questions. Cheers. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Tue, 27 June 2017, 16:46:26
Thanks for the update. Have you heard much from GMK about the keyset?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 27 June 2017, 16:49:45
This should calm some nervousness. Thanks a lot for the update :)

I guess all my build parts are still in order, as i'm still waiting for my zeal stabs right around august. Time to build up hype for a new keeb. :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Tue, 27 June 2017, 16:59:28
probably selling my spot if anyone's interested. black kit. 8°. poly bottom. no keys.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 27 June 2017, 18:10:43
Thanks for the update Juahenza. Good luck getting everything all sorted and have fun with your holidays! Can't wait for the Exent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 05 July 2017, 19:13:19
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 05 July 2017, 22:22:42
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)

Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 05 July 2017, 23:57:24
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)

Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.

What key set do you have planned for Exent in your pixel signature?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 06 July 2017, 01:01:58
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)

Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.

What key set do you have planned for Exent in your pixel signature?

Maxkey SA Ashen.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 06 July 2017, 11:42:06
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)

Shhhhhhhhh.  The gods will hear you.   >:D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Thu, 06 July 2017, 16:50:43
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)

Shhhhhhhhh.  The gods will hear you.   >:D
Oh sh..., It was a bait for the unfaithful, I swear.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 07 July 2017, 10:40:28
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)

Shhhhhhhhh.  The gods will hear you.   >:D
Oh sh..., It was a bait for the unfaithful, I swear.

I bet they weren't listening anyway.  They drink too much.

Looking forward to seeing the ano job regardless.  I'm stoked for some bezel.  GET HYPE.  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 10 July 2017, 22:21:16
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)

Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.
YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
How are you guys doing?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 10 July 2017, 22:36:54
How are you guys doing?

Well, you know, using a framed printed picture of the black Exent prototype to cry myself to sleep at night until it arrives.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 10 July 2017, 22:43:36
How are you guys doing?

Well, you know, using a framed printed picture of the black Exent prototype to cry myself to sleep at night until it arrives.

Yeah that pretty much sums it up. Except my framed photo is of the silver version.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 11 July 2017, 00:53:24
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)

Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.
YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
How are you guys doing?

Are there extras in all the colors? I'm totally think I may have to try and buy more than one lol. The more I look at the renders the more I need this keyboard
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Tue, 11 July 2017, 03:18:02
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)
YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
How are you guys doing?

Thanks juahenza, all good here, how are you? I might actually be happy with the delay since I won't have to solder in this summer heat :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Asbrodeus on Tue, 11 July 2017, 06:18:11
YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
...

Would it be possible to add an extra color case to the order in that... case?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: DreLLin on Tue, 11 July 2017, 06:59:57
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)

Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.
YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
How are you guys doing?

If you have such an amount of extras is it possible to change the color or buy an extra case?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Tue, 11 July 2017, 11:24:22
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)

Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.
YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
How are you guys doing?

If you have such an amount of extras is it possible to change the color or buy an extra case?

I am interested in this as well.  In other news, I had to laminate my printed out picture of my extent because tears kept ruining it.  Hope all is wells with you guys.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 11 July 2017, 11:35:19
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)

Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.
YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
How are you guys doing?

If you have such an amount of extras is it possible to change the color or buy an extra case?

I am interested in this as well.  In other news, I had to laminate my printed out picture of my extent because tears kept ruining it.  Hope all is wells with you guys.

I bought a black case...  Had Terminal waiting for it, then saw that the MOD switches I bought for it are Cyan...  might change my keyset to Pulse or something to match.  What to do, what to do?!?  Good thing I have a little time.  Can't wait!  Thanks to the dudes at TARO.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 11 July 2017, 23:04:33
YES, QC will be done prior to shipping. Plus we will have quite a bit of extra, in case of anything.
...

Would it be possible to add an extra color case to the order in that... case?
Possible. We can talk about that later.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: pvd on Wed, 12 July 2017, 05:25:09
Will any of these extras be put up for sale at the conclusion of the GB?  :thumb:

I think this board is very attractive. Sad I wasn't around to join it in january.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 12 July 2017, 09:30:10
Will any of these extras be put up for sale at the conclusion of the GB?  :thumb:

I think this board is very attractive. Sad I wasn't around to join it in january.
I'm quite sure you should be able to snag one when extras come.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 12 July 2017, 21:34:31
Will any of these extras be put up for sale at the conclusion of the GB?  :thumb:

I think this board is very attractive. Sad I wasn't around to join it in january.
Yeah I wouldn't want to keep the extras. They will be up for sale when this GB is concluded.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: alexfry on Fri, 14 July 2017, 05:30:24
Pretty keen to see some more update photos...

Aluminum being milled?
Parts being polished?
Feet in Sandles?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zhihuichan on Tue, 18 July 2017, 22:05:22
Any updates about the bottom?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sat, 22 July 2017, 07:40:45
Any updates about the bottom?

I'd like to see some update pictures if there are any  :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Sun, 23 July 2017, 10:24:05
Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.

Thank you  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: cynviloq on Sun, 23 July 2017, 12:08:51
Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.

Thank you  ;D

Given work is just starting on the bottoms, can we still expecting an August delivery?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 23 July 2017, 16:15:59
Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.

Thank you  ;D

Excited for more pictures. Would rather have delays than any compromises on quality/finish
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Sun, 23 July 2017, 18:21:48
Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.

Thank you  ;D

Does that mean that those of us who opted for the anodised bottom as opposed to polycarbonate might get our Exents sooner?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 23 July 2017, 19:33:58
Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.

Thank you  ;D

Does that mean that those of us who opted for the anodised bottom as opposed to polycarbonate might get our Exents sooner?

Or later?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 23 July 2017, 22:18:09
Is it possible to add a aluminum bottom case to my order?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 24 July 2017, 10:44:43
Met RAMA in Seattle over the weekend.  He said he saw his first EXENT in the bay area and that it looked dope in person.  Can't wait! 

THE HYPE IS REAL.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Mon, 24 July 2017, 11:31:49
Met RAMA in Seattle over the weekend.  He said he saw his first EXENT in the bay area and that it looked dope in person.  Can't wait! 

THE HYPE IS REAL.
That's exciting!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: merutz on Mon, 24 July 2017, 11:33:31
Looking forward to this week's photos  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Mon, 24 July 2017, 11:36:43
Met RAMA in Seattle over the weekend.  He said he saw his first EXENT in the bay area and that it looked dope in person.  Can't wait! 

THE HYPE IS REAL.
That's excitingg!

Exent in the wild and our glorious leader is keeping it a secret? :O[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 24 July 2017, 13:04:48
Met RAMA in Seattle over the weekend.  He said he saw his first EXENT in the bay area and that it looked dope in person.  Can't wait! 

THE HYPE IS REAL.
That's excitingg!

Exent in the wild and our glorious leader is keeping it a secret? :O (Attachment Link)

It was in a video of the LA meetup posted on reddit. I'm reserving judgement until I see it in person, and in silver.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 24 July 2017, 20:03:07
Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.

Thank you  ;D

Does that mean that those of us who opted for the anodised bottom as opposed to polycarbonate might get our Exents sooner?
Later. There isn't many who ordered the aluminum bottom. So the manufacturer will run it after the polycarbonate bottom.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Tue, 25 July 2017, 07:34:35
Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.

Thank you  ;D

Does that mean that those of us who opted for the anodised bottom as opposed to polycarbonate might get our Exents sooner?
Later. There isn't many who ordered the aluminum bottom. So the manufacturer will run it after the polycarbonate bottom.

Ah, I thought all anodised parts would be done together. That makes sense. I can't wait for mine ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 25 July 2017, 21:57:53
Just some quick updates before I off to bed. The factory has already started working on the polycarbonate bottom, they will send me some progress pic later. We should be expecting some of the anodized parts this week, I will post the photos as soon as I received them.

Thank you  ;D

Does that mean that those of us who opted for the anodised bottom as opposed to polycarbonate might get our Exents sooner?
Later. There isn't many who ordered the aluminum bottom. So the manufacturer will run it after the polycarbonate bottom.

This makes me both very happy and a bit sad at the same time... What's a little wait?  I'm just very happy!  Woohoo!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 26 July 2017, 12:18:21
Who should I contact in order to have my delivery address changed?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Wed, 26 July 2017, 15:35:03
Who should I contact in order to have my delivery address changed?

Need to do this as well
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 26 July 2017, 17:38:29
Who should I contact in order to have my delivery address changed?

Need to do this as well

I PM'd juahenza to change my shipping address.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 26 July 2017, 23:15:50
I PM'd juahenza to change my shipping address.

Thank you for confirming that! Yea PM'd him a few days ago, he's probably been busy hence I figured there may be a good chance at reaching out if I bump the thread instead.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Thu, 27 July 2017, 11:29:15
Who should I contact in order to have my delivery address changed?

Need to do this as well

I PM'd juahenza to change my shipping address.

I did the same. Then I was told to send an email to the address listed on the PayPal order and that is where I got mine changed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Sat, 29 July 2017, 18:37:30
Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Sun, 30 July 2017, 00:36:03
Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.

I asked about a plate file back in the IC phase but never really got a reply that I remember.  In any case, I planned on reverse engineering it and getting a couple other plates made myself.  Issue with that is I don't want to sell anything without proper permission.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Sun, 30 July 2017, 04:25:11
Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.

I asked about a plate file back in the IC phase but never really got a reply that I remember.  In any case, I planned on reverse engineering it and getting a couple other plates made myself.  Issue with that is I don't want to sell anything without proper permission.
I would definitely get one. Juahuenza will answer hopefully.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 30 July 2017, 07:48:25
Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.

What Alps 65% PCB has a centre USB port? A Korean custom one?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Sun, 30 July 2017, 09:56:34
Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.

What Alps 65% PCB has a centre USB port? A Korean custom one?
Dang it, I forgot about that, lfk78 had some %65 Alps PCB, but its not a centre port as you've guessed.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sun, 30 July 2017, 10:11:12
Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.

I asked about a plate file back in the IC phase but never really got a reply that I remember.  In any case, I planned on reverse engineering it and getting a couple other plates made myself.  Issue with that is I don't want to sell anything without proper permission.
I can send you the plate and PCB layout file. Just PM your email.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 30 July 2017, 11:09:18
Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.

What Alps 65% PCB has a centre USB port? A Korean custom one?
Dang it, I forgot about that, lfk78 had some %65 Alps PCB, but its not a centre port as you've guessed.

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You're also forgetting that the LFK follows Varmilo's interpretation of the 65% form factor, with two additional rows that is spaced away from the main alpha cluster. I don't think you really thought your plans through...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Sun, 30 July 2017, 13:21:51
Is there any chance for a Alps plate? There is an EXENT compatible (I believe) Alps %65 PCB available already, it would be awesome if someone could design a compatible plate too. Going between Cherry and Alps easily with just changing the plate/PCBs sounds nice.

What Alps 65% PCB has a centre USB port? A Korean custom one?
Dang it, I forgot about that, lfk78 had some %65 Alps PCB, but its not a centre port as you've guessed.

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You're also forgetting that the LFK follows Varmilo's interpretation of the 65% form factor, with two additional rows that is spaced away from the main alpha cluster. I don't think you really thought your plans through...

There's also a standart %65 layout PCB like EXENT's.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 31 July 2017, 13:57:37
Did the factory ever send pics of the polycarbonate bottom (or whatever they were going to send pics of last week)?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 01 August 2017, 11:18:07
I'd also like to see pictures. I'm assuming we're gonna get a few more delays with the Exent here, which is okay, as long as there is transparency about it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Tue, 01 August 2017, 13:37:02
updates on expected completion times would be nice seeing as how it's August
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Tue, 01 August 2017, 18:35:59
updates on expected completion times would be nice seeing as how it's August

This is basically how I feel.  An updated expected ship date would be pretty nice.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 01 August 2017, 19:45:06
updates on expected completion times would be nice seeing as how it's August

This is basically how I feel.  An updated expected ship date would be pretty nice.

An update on the GMK set would be appreciated as well, since i haven't heard any news about that for a while.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Tue, 01 August 2017, 20:08:15
updates on expected completion times would be nice seeing as how it's August

This is basically how I feel.  An updated expected ship date would be pretty nice.

An update on the GMK set would be appreciated as well, since i haven't heard any news about that for a while.

Posted July 20th on kbdist (http://www.kbdist.com/updates)

GMK BLUE ALERT/GMK EXENT

Scheduled to arrive beginning of August
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 01 August 2017, 20:46:02
Still need to change shipping address and no word from Juahenza.

(https://i.redd.it/9xfvbxoentdy.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 01 August 2017, 22:47:57
Still need to change shipping address and no word from Juahenza.

Show Image
(https://i.redd.it/9xfvbxoentdy.png)

Sorry bro, will reply you in a bit. Don't worry.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 01 August 2017, 23:04:44
Sorry bro, will reply you in a bit. Don't worry.

It's all good, no need to apologise, was more a humorous jab at the other nervous comments above, I'm in no rush at all. I can have it changed the very last day before it ships so long as it happens I really don't mind, just wanted to make sure I had the correct person to reach out to regarding the situation.

Looking forward to more production pictures and/or updates regarding the GMK set!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuppie on Wed, 02 August 2017, 00:47:36
I see the order form is still open, are these all sold/shipped yet?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Wed, 02 August 2017, 02:40:22
I see the order form is still open, are these all sold/shipped yet?

There will be extras when the GB is over.

And no, not shipped yet.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: JAB on Fri, 04 August 2017, 21:15:18
I also need to change the mailing/shipping address. Not in a rush but whenever it is possible I would like to
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Sat, 05 August 2017, 09:05:04
Is it too late to change the switch option?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 05 August 2017, 17:04:39
(http://i.imgur.com/GJ2v8GE.jpg)

 :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 05 August 2017, 17:38:58
Is that legit? **** yes. ETA please.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Sat, 05 August 2017, 19:16:51
Is this real life?  Is the time finally nearing?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Mon, 07 August 2017, 11:39:57
Is that legit? **** yes. ETA please.

no eta
but its legit. it was on the instagram story.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Mon, 07 August 2017, 12:57:15
I know that in the FAQ it says GMK set won't be sold separately, does that mean none will be sold as extras too?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 07 August 2017, 14:17:05
Is that legit? **** yes. ETA please.

no eta
but its legit. it was on the instagram story.

Talk about cryptic. Can we get an update? It wasn't even posted by juahenza.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: alexfry on Tue, 08 August 2017, 05:52:22
Hmm
Yeah, I kind of feel like I want a bit of an update.
I don’t think that’s unreasonable.

What Instagram story?
What’s the deal with the prototype seen at some meetup?

I’m not being impatient, but this sort of thing is a leap of faith. Regular updates and details would be much appreciated.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Tue, 08 August 2017, 07:00:36
I'm also interested in an updated timeline. I'm not being impatient either, just curious since this was the original timeline..
Project Timeline
- Groupbuy ends 22th February 2016
- Payment deadline 28th February 2016
- Production 12-16 weeks
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 08 August 2017, 09:59:36
Juahenza come on. We're banking on you, I'm sure you are busy, I'm sure running this is extremely difficult, just throw us a few pictures, give us a rough timeline, and say everything is okay.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 08 August 2017, 17:18:54
Oh wow, just now realized it's been 23 weeks. Yeah, the lack of updates is a little troubling. Since there's so many big names on this project I'm not concerned, but lack of communication is always frustrating.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lovelovelovely on Tue, 08 August 2017, 23:57:15
i like it  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 09 August 2017, 03:09:45
i like it  :thumb:

Doesn't seem like this comment has anything to do with the current discussion...  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 09 August 2017, 04:31:53
Guys, I can confirm that everything is in progress. We will come up with an update in awhile. Apology for the lack of update.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: alexfry on Wed, 09 August 2017, 05:37:03
How long is “a while”?
I’d like an update “soon” please.

We were owed some details back on June 20 when we blew past the upper end of the original production timeline.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 09 August 2017, 05:46:20
Guys, I can confirm that everything is in progress. We will come up with an update in awhile. Apology for the lack of update.

Don't worry about empty updates, it's a waste of your time and ours. I feel like we only need to know if something goes wrong or if the project is going to be more than a month or two late. 'We're on track, nothing of note to report' is just wasted effort.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: speedemonv12 on Wed, 09 August 2017, 05:51:50
Yeah not to be rude, but how hard is it to stop in and post something like "hey guys, running slightly behind schedule but estimated ship date from factory is_____"

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 09 August 2017, 06:44:47
I've just posted the update here in the link below. I will spend some time before sleeping later to reply the PMs and to update the address change. If you don't receive any confirmation or reply from me after 2AM (GMT+8), do send me another one. Appreciate if you could CC yuktsi in the loop as well.

Once again, I would like to apology for the lack of communication here.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: speedemonv12 on Wed, 09 August 2017, 06:48:24
Awesome! Thanks for the update!

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 09 August 2017, 06:55:52
Guys, I can confirm that everything is in progress. We will come up with an update in awhile. Apology for the lack of update.

Don't worry about empty updates, it's a waste of your time and ours. I feel like we only need to know if something goes wrong or if the project is going to be more than a month or two late. 'We're on track, nothing of note to report' is just wasted effort.

I would agree if we were still in the original shipping window.  We're way outside it now.  When you're late, an empty (but reassuring) update is better than silence.  This is week ~22 of a "12-16 weeks" project.  A weekly check-in wouldn't be inappropriate or unreasonable at this stage.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 09 August 2017, 06:58:13
December???
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 09 August 2017, 07:00:34
Wow, was not expecting such a massive delay, that's quite the under estimate on the time to complete. How did you get so behind?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 09 August 2017, 07:01:41
Thanks for the update. Don't mind the delay. Rather it be late, than it be crappy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 09 August 2017, 07:04:33
Wow, was not expecting such a massive delay, that's quite the under estimate on the time to complete. How did you get so behind?

Right? The original estimate was 12-16 weeks and now we're saying we're still 16 weeks out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zhihuichan on Wed, 09 August 2017, 07:33:46
Seems keyboard won't been shipped until October  :blank:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ClearKeys on Wed, 09 August 2017, 07:40:50
You'll waste your life away if you do nothing but wait for the next thing. Enjoy what you have and be surprised when the future arrives. I rather receive a quality product the first-time, then a rushed product I'm unhappy with. Keep up the good work! I appreciate the updates.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 09 August 2017, 08:53:21
Seems keyboard won't been shipped until October  :blank:

It wouldn't be a keyboard group buy if it wasn't delayed.   :))    :-[
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 09 August 2017, 10:57:27
You'll waste your life away if you do nothing but wait for the next thing. Enjoy what you have and be surprised when the future arrives. I rather receive a quality product the first-time, then a rushed product I'm unhappy with. Keep up the good work! I appreciate the updates.

How do we know this? Where is juahenza?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: speedemonv12 on Wed, 09 August 2017, 11:00:37
You'll waste your life away if you do nothing but wait for the next thing. Enjoy what you have and be surprised when the future arrives. I rather receive a quality product the first-time, then a rushed product I'm unhappy with. Keep up the good work! I appreciate the updates.

How do we know this? Where is juahenza?
Second post in the thread was updated.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 09 August 2017, 11:05:48
You'll waste your life away if you do nothing but wait for the next thing. Enjoy what you have and be surprised when the future arrives. I rather receive a quality product the first-time, then a rushed product I'm unhappy with. Keep up the good work! I appreciate the updates.

How do we know this? Where is juahenza?
Second post in the thread was updated.

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Ah okay I see. Annoying but I never legitimately expected to see this keyboard by June. Or even August. Was hoping for mid september though.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Zackfoo on Wed, 09 August 2017, 11:38:42
well technically this is suppose to be expected since the set comes with a gmk set, gmk set generally make you wait for quite a while. so yeah...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 09 August 2017, 12:00:46
well technically this is suppose to be expected since the set comes with a gmk set, gmk set generally make you wait for quite a while. so yeah...

I didn't get the GMK set - wasn't interested. I though the hierarchy was something to the effect of

First Shipment: No GMK, Polycarb
Second: (?) GMK, Polycarb
Third: (?) No GMK, Aluminum base
Fourth: (?) GMK, Aluminum base

I could believe third and fourth are in the wrong order. Or on identical schedules.

I didn't order mine to get it quicker, I just ordered what I wanted. It was an added perk that my selections mean receiving it faster. That may still be the case but I'm not excited to wait till October.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 09 August 2017, 15:26:53
well technically this is suppose to be expected since the set comes with a gmk set, gmk set generally make you wait for quite a while. so yeah...

I didn't get the GMK set - wasn't interested. I though the hierarchy was something to the effect of

First Shipment: No GMK, Polycarb
Second: (?) GMK, Polycarb
Third: (?) No GMK, Aluminum base
Fourth: (?) GMK, Aluminum base

I could believe third and fourth are in the wrong order. Or on identical schedules.

I didn't order mine to get it quicker, I just ordered what I wanted. It was an added perk that my selections mean receiving it faster. That may still be the case but I'm not excited to wait till October.

There is no shipping hierarchy, and the polycarbs are being completed second per a previous post
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 09 August 2017, 16:03:12
well technically this is suppose to be expected since the set comes with a gmk set, gmk set generally make you wait for quite a while. so yeah...

I didn't get the GMK set - wasn't interested. I though the hierarchy was something to the effect of

First Shipment: No GMK, Polycarb
Second: (?) GMK, Polycarb
Third: (?) No GMK, Aluminum base
Fourth: (?) GMK, Aluminum base

I could believe third and fourth are in the wrong order. Or on identical schedules.

I didn't order mine to get it quicker, I just ordered what I wanted. It was an added perk that my selections mean receiving it faster. That may still be the case but I'm not excited to wait till October.

There is no shipping hierarchy, and the polycarbs are being completed second per a previous post

Well I was under the impression that there was a hierarchy, at one point. This appears to have changed. Regardless, I'm not thrilled by October. Such is life, though.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 09 August 2017, 16:55:24
Well I was under the impression that there was a hierarchy, at one point. This appears to have changed. Regardless, I'm not thrilled by October. Such is life, though.

Nope, there never was a hierarchy. Nothing changed. Regardless I'm sorry that was what you thought and it really would suck to find out that's not the case. October isn't so far off, I think once we have them it will be worth the wait.

And it's not going to be the last Keyboard project that is going to have delays and ship late, I suspect these delays aren't the worst we will see on future projects by other creators, and definitely not the longest delay we have seen before as a community by far.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Wed, 09 August 2017, 17:06:10
Personally I've got no problem with the delay, delays are to be expected. The only thing that is a little annoying is that we are only finding out now. I feel like we should have been notified as soon as it looked like they weren't going to meet the timetable originally laid out and then updated again once they had the new timetable they've got now. That being said though I've got no problem waiting and am excited for the final product. Thanks Exent team for all the work you are putting in.

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Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 09 August 2017, 17:18:29
Like many people, the delay doesn't bother me too badly. It sucks, but I would definitely like a great product over a rushed and subpar one.

Personally I've got no problem with the delay, delays are to be expected. The only thing that is a little annoying is that we are only finding out now.

This is my biggest point as well. Communication in group buys is very important, especially when things aren't going as previously laid out. Sadly I've seen so many people and companies lack at this.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 09 August 2017, 17:31:27
Nope, there never was a hierarchy. Nothing changed. Regardless I'm sorry that was what you thought and it really would suck to find out that's not the case. October isn't so far off, I think once we have them it will be worth the wait.

And it's not going to be the last Keyboard project that is going to have delays and ship late, I suspect these delays aren't the worst we will see on future projects by other creators, and definitely not the longest delay we have seen before as a community by far.

You're disagreeing with what the GB runner posted:

Later. There isn't many who ordered the aluminum bottom. So the manufacturer will run it after the polycarbonate bottom.

If you're going to tell someone they're wrong, you have to be right or you look foolish.

On topic, I don't mind delays (and we've had multiple in this buy already let's don't kid ourselves) but going delay, delay, delay then "oops, we're still 2-4 months away from fulfillment" when we're already 2 months overdue is frustrating and unprofessional.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Wed, 09 August 2017, 17:39:06
Nope, there never was a hierarchy. Nothing changed. Regardless I'm sorry that was what you thought and it really would suck to find out that's not the case. October isn't so far off, I think once we have them it will be worth the wait.

And it's not going to be the last Keyboard project that is going to have delays and ship late, I suspect these delays aren't the worst we will see on future projects by other creators, and definitely not the longest delay we have seen before as a community by far.

You're disagreeing with what the GB runner posted:

Later. There isn't many who ordered the aluminum bottom. So the manufacturer will run it after the polycarbonate bottom.

If you're going to tell someone they're wrong, you have to be right or you look foolish.

On topic, I don't mind delays (and we've had multiple in this buy already let's don't kid ourselves) but going delay, delay, delay then "oops, we're still 2-4 months away from fulfillment" when we're already 2 months overdue is frustrating and unprofessional.
agreed. too many people apologizing for poor planning and lack of foresight in here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 09 August 2017, 17:50:00
Maybe it's time for those big names who are supporting this project to comment. You remember: TARO?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 09 August 2017, 17:56:08
Let me be clear, I'm not upset with anyone about the delay, I'm just not pleased I have to wait till approx. October for it. I'm not directing my irritation at any individual.

But all of you bring up an excellent point, which is that communication is paramount. It should not have taken this long to hear about this.

Also I thought it had been mentioned that the polycarb bottoms were gonna ship first. That's what led me to believe there was a shipping hierarchy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 09 August 2017, 18:20:28
My recollection:

There was a delay related to the GMK set. Kits without keys were going to ship first.

Recently, there was the fact that the aluminum bottoms hasn't entered production yet. Acrylic was supposed to ship first (I quoted it above)

Your recollection matches information in this thread.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 09 August 2017, 19:00:18
With the timeline as it is i don't think that the GMK set isn't going to hold back the ship date, considering the kit itself had more delays than the GMK set, which is more or less right on time.

I would really want an updated timeline, even if it is an estimate. I initially thought i'd have to wait multiple weeks for the GMK set to arrive before my kit would ship but it looks like the former would wait for the latter.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 09 August 2017, 19:31:39
With the timeline as it is i don't think that the GMK set isn't going to hold back the ship date, considering the kit itself had more delays than the GMK set, which is more or less right on time.

I would really want an updated timeline, even if it is an estimate. I initially thought i'd have to wait multiple weeks for the GMK set to arrive before my kit would ship but it looks like the former would wait for the latter.
An update has been posted at the third post of this thread
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 09 August 2017, 21:45:38
Damn, October. Didn't know we were that behind, even more so since the alu bottoms will have to wait til the polycarb ones are finished.

Hopefully the quality is up to par. Still extremely excited for this board, but i'll probably get to building another board in the meantime.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 09 August 2017, 22:09:37
If you're going to tell someone they're wrong, you have to be right or you look foolish.

Who cares if I look foolish once in a while, out of the thousands of online posts I make in any given week, in front of maybe 15 complete strangers, that I will never meet, a fraction of whom will never even catch that I made a mistake in the first place, and which will be forgotten figuratively 15 minutes later and will be buried obscurely in hardly any more time that that. You caught me! How ever will I recover from what a fool I look like.

And while updates would be nice, they aren't professionals, updating us is a courtesy, not an obligation, and I don't think we are entitled to them like people are seemingly getting really bent out of shape expressing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Wed, 09 August 2017, 22:13:41
If you're going to tell someone they're wrong, you have to be right or you look foolish.

Who cares if I look foolish once in a while, out of the thousands of online posts I make in any given week, in front of maybe 15 complete strangers, that I will never meet, a fraction of whom will never even catch that I made a mistake in the first place, and which will be forgotten figuratively 15 minutes later and will be buried obscurely in hardly any more time that that. You caught me! How ever will I recover from what a fool I look like.

And while updates would be nice, they aren't professionals, updating us is a courtesy, not an obligation, and I don't think we are entitled to them like people are seemingly getting really bent out of shape expressing.
naw we definitely are entitled to updates especially since this run is running extremely behind.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 09 August 2017, 22:31:02
naw we definitely are entitled to updates especially since this run is running extremely behind.

Entitled by what? What gives you the entitlement? A casual, forum based, consumer run crowd funding project fell behind and their level of communication isn't matching a professional company level and you feel like they owe it to you personally to handhold you through the process because why? It's how you want it to be? **** doesn't work like that. Be happy it's a cool keyboard and you get to have one, there are a ton of people that weren't able to that would be super stoked just to be a part of the project and would gladly wait through radio silence just to get one even if it took until next year. It doesn't matter that they aren't communicating, all that matters is that the keyboard gets made. You aren't entitled to anything just because you preordered someone's side hobby on a niche forum in some random corner of the internet.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Wed, 09 August 2017, 22:34:29
naw we definitely are entitled to updates especially since this run is running extremely behind.

Entitled by what? What gives you the entitlement? A casual, forum based, consumer run crowd funding project fell behind and their level of communication isn't matching a professional company level and you feel like they owe it to you personally to handhold you through the process because why? It's how you want it to be? **** doesn't work like that. Be happy it's a cool keyboard and you get to have one, there are a ton of people that weren't able to that would be super stoked just to be a part of the project and would gladly wait through radio silence just to get one even if it took until next year. It doesn't matter that they aren't communicating, all that matters is that the keyboard gets made. You aren't entitled to anything just because you preordered someone's side hobby on a niche forum in some random corner of the internet.
"what gives you that entitlement"

the fact that i paid money for it, duh. didn't even read the rest of that nonsense.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 09 August 2017, 22:37:39

the fact that i paid money for it, duh. didn't even read the rest of that nonsense.

Money doesn't equal entitlement, don't be ignorant.


Edited to clarify my point.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Wed, 09 August 2017, 22:39:17

the fact that i paid money for it, duh. didn't even read the rest of that nonsense.

Money doesn't entitle you to anything other than a product, don't be ignorant.
"don't be ignorant" ironic :-/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Thu, 10 August 2017, 04:28:36

the fact that i paid money for it, duh. didn't even read the rest of that nonsense.

Money doesn't entitle you to anything other than a product, don't be ignorant.
"don't be ignorant" ironic :-/

Demorior clearly hasn’t been part of this community long enough to know how these things go. And handles the delay with teenage impatience.

Groupbuys are 90% not on time. Any communication is great. I have sometimes gone several months without hearing anything about the status or the reasons behind a delay. Some group buys even fail and you will not even see your money back.

Pleas just relax, calm down, grow up and look forward to the awesome keyboard you will receive this year.

Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Thu, 10 August 2017, 06:17:52

the fact that i paid money for it, duh. didn't even read the rest of that nonsense.

Money doesn't entitle you to anything other than a product, don't be ignorant.
"don't be ignorant" ironic :-/

Demorior clearly hasn’t been part of this community long enough to know how these things go. And handles the delay with teenage impatience.

Groupbuys are 90% not on time. Any communication is great. I have sometimes gone several months without hearing anything about the status or the reasons behind a delay. Some group buys even fail and you will not even see your money back.

Pleas just relax, calm down, grow up and look forward to the awesome keyboard you will receive this year.

Thank you.

I agree with you. But I think the host has to provide more regular updates about the progress.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 10 August 2017, 06:32:47
If you're going to tell someone they're wrong, you have to be right or you look foolish.
And while updates would be nice, they aren't professionals, updating us is a courtesy, not an obligation, and I don't think we are entitled to them like people are seemingly getting really bent out of shape expressing.
Money has changed hands.  Like it or not, this is a business transaction and there are certain reasonable expectations that come with it.  They may not be "professionals" but the team behind this GB has an obligation to keep us informed.  And it looks like they intend to do that, so everything is as it should be.  /shrug

Updating isn't a courtesy.  You're being ridiculous.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 10 August 2017, 06:54:38
Money has changed hands.  Like it or not, this is a business transaction and there are certain reasonable expectations that come with it.  They may not be "professionals" but the team behind this GB has an obligation to keep us informed.  And it looks like they intend to do that, so everything is as it should be.  /shrug

You can have a reasonable expectation of without being entitled. I'm not being ridiculous, I just realize that giving someone money doesn't indebt them to me. Sure it's nice when there is information, but I don't care when there isn't. This isn't a medicine I need to live, where not getting it exactly when I need it will cause me harm. It's a toy, I would argue that it is a toy that literally everyone who is getting it already has at least one other toy that does the exact same thing this one does, so what if it's late, like nearly every crowd funding project of the nearly 200 I have been a part of (many of which have been offered by actually professional companies) has been. They don't have an obligation to keep us informed, it would just be swell if they did, but we aren't paying them for information; they have an obligation to deliver a product, you just have this assumption 'I want this so it should be this way because it's what I want' that makes you feel like they owe you information.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 10 August 2017, 07:07:39
Money has changed hands.  Like it or not, this is a business transaction and there are certain reasonable expectations that come with it.  They may not be "professionals" but the team behind this GB has an obligation to keep us informed.  And it looks like they intend to do that, so everything is as it should be.  /shrug

You can have a reasonable expectation of without being entitled. I'm not being ridiculous, I just realize that giving someone money doesn't indebt them to me. Sure it's nice when there is information, but I don't care when there isn't. This isn't a medicine I need to live, where not getting it exactly when I need it will cause me harm. It's a toy, I would argue that it is a toy that literally everyone who is getting it already has at least one other toy that does the exact same thing this one does, so what if it's late, like nearly every crowd funding project of the nearly 200 I have been a part of (many of which have been offered by actually professional companies) has been. They don't have an obligation to keep us informed, it would just be swell if they did, but we aren't paying them for information; they have an obligation to deliver a product, you just have this assumption 'I want this so it should be this way because it's what I want' that makes you feel like they owe you information.

Yes, I'm trying to be reasonable.  And I agree that not everyone has behaved that way these last couple of days.

The subjective importance/significance of the product is not relevant.  I would expect the same level of communication from the team had they sold me a new yacht or a toothpick.  Maybe they don't conduct business that way in your part of the world, but where I come from, you keep your customer apprised of the situation regarding his order -- whether you're a "professional" or not.  And that's doubly true when you've overrun your original delivery estimate.

This is all academic, as clearly juahenza is prepared to give us regular updates.  So we needn't argue the point.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: clappingcactus on Thu, 10 August 2017, 08:34:27
You can have a reasonable expectation of without being entitled. I'm not being ridiculous, I just realize that giving someone money doesn't indebt them to me. Sure it's nice when there is information, but I don't care when there isn't. This isn't a medicine I need to live, where not getting it exactly when I need it will cause me harm. It's a toy, I would argue that it is a toy that literally everyone who is getting it already has at least one other toy that does the exact same thing this one does, so what if it's late, like nearly every crowd funding project of the nearly 200 I have been a part of (many of which have been offered by actually professional companies) has been. They don't have an obligation to keep us informed, it would just be swell if they did, but we aren't paying them for information; they have an obligation to deliver a product, you just have this assumption 'I want this so it should be this way because it's what I want' that makes you feel like they owe you information.

I wish I was more like you. You're very patient, kind and understanding.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Thu, 10 August 2017, 09:29:46

the fact that i paid money for it, duh. didn't even read the rest of that nonsense.

Money doesn't entitle you to anything other than a product, don't be ignorant.
"don't be ignorant" ironic :-/

Demorior clearly hasn’t been part of this community long enough to know how these things go. And handles the delay with teenage impatience.

Groupbuys are 90% not on time. Any communication is great. I have sometimes gone several months without hearing anything about the status or the reasons behind a delay. Some group buys even fail and you will not even see your money back.

Pleas just relax, calm down, grow up and look forward to the awesome keyboard you will receive this year.

Thank you.
ah yes, more people to apologize for people not doing their jobs. if you're going to run a group buy and take several people's money, you accept responsibility for that money. this community and group buys could be better if some accountability was put into place. if you think it's ok to not provide updates after several weeks have passed beyond the expected ship time please do not ever run a business or try to arrange a group buy yourself.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 10 August 2017, 09:37:13
ah yes, more people to apologize for people not doing their jobs. if you're going to run a group buy and take several people's money, you accept responsibility for that money. this community and group buys could be better if some accountability was put into place. if you think it's ok to not provide updates after several weeks have passed beyond the expected ship time please do not ever run a business or try to arrange a group buy yourself.

It's not a job they are doing. And there isn't anything to indicate they aren't treating our money with the utmost responsibility. I'm just saying 'ok'/'not ok' doesn't play into the equation, it just doesn't matter. It's not causing a problem, it's not hurting anyone, it's not an important product that is going to disrupt the marketplace, it's a tiny hobby project that's taking longer than expected. Whooptidoo. Your money hasn't gone anywhere, your keyboard will show up eventually. And I have no doubts the creator will happily refund you if for some reason a surprise delay makes it impossible for you to exercise some patience.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Thu, 10 August 2017, 09:40:04
ah yes, more people to apologize for people not doing their jobs. if you're going to run a group buy and take several people's money, you accept responsibility for that money. this community and group buys could be better if some accountability was put into place. if you think it's ok to not provide updates after several weeks have passed beyond the expected ship time please do not ever run a business or try to arrange a group buy yourself.

It's not a job they are doing. And there isn't anything to indicate they aren't treating our money with the utmost responsibility. I'm just saying 'ok'/'not ok' doesn't play into the equation, it just doesn't matter. It's not causing a problem, it's not hurting anyone, it's not an important product that is going to disrupt the marketplace, it's a tiny hobby project that's taking longer than expected. Whooptidoo. Your money hasn't gone anywhere, your keyboard will show up eventually. And I have no doubts the creator will happily refund you if for some reason a surprise delay makes it impossible for you to exercise some patience.
your issue is you think just because you're ok with not receiving updates and massive delays that everyone should also be, too. not how the world works, unfortunately.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 10 August 2017, 09:40:59
It's not a job they are doing.

How is getting paid to design and produce a product not a job?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 10 August 2017, 09:51:29
your issue is you think just because you're ok with not receiving updates and massive delays that everyone should also be, too. not how the world works, unfortunately.

It's not an issue. I just think people should exercise a little acceptance and complain less. But unfortunate you are right, that's not how the world works.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 10 August 2017, 09:56:19
It's not a job they are doing.

How is getting paid to design and produce a product not a job?

Especially:

TGR
Aconic
RAMA
Originative

This isn't some neckbeard in his or her parent's basement (or at least it was advertised as being that way).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 10 August 2017, 11:04:38
It's not a job they are doing.

How is getting paid to design and produce a product not a job?

Especially:

TGR
Aconic
RAMA
Originative

This isn't some neckbeard in his or her parent's basement (or at least it was advertised as being that way).

This guy gets it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 10 August 2017, 11:40:46
And while updates would be nice, they aren't professionals, updating us is a courtesy, not an obligation, and I don't think we are entitled to them like people are seemingly getting really bent out of shape expressing.

WTF? Any given one of us as over 200$ sunk into this. Most of us probably a lot more than that. I'm not gonna throw that kinda money at people who don't act professional, and they damned well do have an obligation to update us. Especially if they hope to have us join another GB of theirs. This isn't a ****ing charity here. Get your head out of your ass.


Wow I read some more of your comments. Your head is so far up your ass it's gone back up through your torso and neck and up into outer space. You're a goddamned moron.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 10 August 2017, 12:06:00
I'm super patient and I usually am super understanding of delays and unforeseeable obstacles that pop up but honestly, Demorior has a point.

If things were handled better and people were held accountable for mistakes that happen (as they are with bigger businesses) then maybe things would be less sloppy. A delay of like 3 months should not be announced like the exact moment the product is meant to be starting to be sent out for delivery.

Can WE do anything about it? No. Am I annoyed that it's taking forever and that it was announced way too late? A little. Am I going to complain? No, I don't think it's really warranted, it sucks that the QC of the anode etc or what it was exactly had to be redone but I rather that than getting a ****ty finish.

Additionally, we don't know the details and don't know who should be held accountable for what happened - I feel raging at GB runners can be unfair depending on how exactly things went down. Whether or not this should be disclosed it another thing entirely.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: merutz on Thu, 10 August 2017, 12:24:21
WTF? Any given one of us as over 200$ sunk into this. Most of us probably a lot more than that. I'm not gonna throw that kinda money at people who don't act professional, and they damned well do have an obligation to update us. Especially if they hope to have us join another GB of theirs. This isn't a ****ing charity here. Get your head out of your ass.


Wow I read some more of your comments. Your head is so far up your ass it's gone back up through your torso and neck and up into outer space. You're a goddamned moron.

You've had way too many pancakes man...  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 10 August 2017, 13:28:14
I'm super patient and I usually am super understanding of delays and unforeseeable obstacles that pop up but honestly, Demorior has a point.

If things were handled better and people were held accountable for mistakes that happen (as they are with bigger businesses) then maybe things would be less sloppy. A delay of like 3 months should not be announced like the exact moment the product is meant to be starting to be sent out for delivery.

Can WE do anything about it? No. Am I annoyed that it's taking forever and that it was announced way too late? A little. Am I going to complain? No, I don't think it's really warranted, it sucks that the QC of the anode etc or what it was exactly had to be redone but I rather that than getting a ****ty finish.

Additionally, we don't know the details and don't know who should be held accountable for what happened - I feel raging at GB runners can be unfair depending on how exactly things went down. Whether or not this should be disclosed it another thing entirely.

I know this wasn't directed specifically at me, necessarily, but I'm not trying to rage at anyone in particular. I do think communication should have been better, I do think these things should be run professionally, I do think all of us constantly hear about some of these past nightmare groupbuys and get rightfully nervous when things get delayed or there is a lack of communication.

On the other hand, not knowing all the facts I don't blame the group buy runners for the delays, although I do believe that updates should come at shorter than two and a half week intervals. I also don't think the GB runners should release a shoddy product simply to meet due dates.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Thu, 10 August 2017, 17:32:55
A delay of like 3 months should not be announced like the exact moment the product is meant to be starting to be sent out for delivery.

This is the issue. I've done enough GBs to understand that delays happen, but you've got to be more transparent. It's almost more frustrating with this one because of the names involved. Originative will be stocking these cases post GB according to what's been said, so it isn't like people aren't going to be making a profit from this. We should be treated like paying customers and respected as such.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 10 August 2017, 18:05:03
but I'm not trying to rage at anyone in particular.

Get your head out of your ass.

Your head is so far up your ass

You're a goddamned moron.

Looks like you're trying to rage very specifically at someone.

I'm not a moron for understanding that **** happens and not getting upset about it. For being a mature adult in accepting that there was a delay and not getting bent out of shape because there wasn't immediate coddling. I'm not a moron for having a healthier perspective on the situation that doesn't equate person's communication with the quality of their product, for realizing there would likely be delays ahead of time (which everyone seems to have expressed believing) and when they happened being able to say 'saw that coming' to myself instead of 'I demand information immediately or I'm not buying your **** again' to them.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: user 18 on Thu, 10 August 2017, 18:56:32
Just a reminder to be civil to other users, even those you don't agree with.

The vast majority of GBs have delays. It is reasonable for people who have given their money to ask politely for updates, particularly when there are changes to the original schedule, and it helps to keep the GB runner accountable. Joining GBs has a degree of inherent risk, if you're not willing to handle that risk, you shouldn't be joining GBs.

Thank-you to everyone who has stayed civil throughout this thread.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 10 August 2017, 19:18:40
Ok, my weird 'consumers have no rights' dogma aside, isn't it reasonable to assume that they just wanted to wait to update us until they had the information on hand? I don't know if it would have been better if they had just messaged us saying 'there is going to be a sizeable delay, we don't have any information yet' and let peoples imaginations go wild.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 10 August 2017, 21:20:27
isn't it reasonable to assume that they just wanted to wait to update us until they had the information on hand?

Absent other information, sure. There was a prototype EXENT at the Oco meet on 7/13 with an acrylic bottom.

They knew about the machining trouble then, they had to.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Thu, 10 August 2017, 21:32:46
I would thank everyone for being patient with us. All of you to be exact. We are discussing with the manufacturer now, to see if it's possible to deliver those bottom in batches by not affecting much to the cost. If that is possible, we will be able to start delivering earlier.

With only 3/5 of the MOQ is fulfilled, aggreesively priced kit, money being withheld by PayPal, the delays and also issues with the QC, these are clearly the things that I have underestimated, when I naively pull Sherry and Sam in, to "give something back to community".

I understand that the lack of communication in the last few weeks have been worrying for you guys, I will check in more often to keep you posted. And mentioned earlier, there will be an update at least from us every week.

Cheers, enjoy your weekend.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 10 August 2017, 21:33:57
Ok, my weird 'consumers have no rights' dogma aside, isn't it reasonable to assume that they just wanted to wait to update us until they had the information on hand? I don't know if it would have been better if they had just messaged us saying 'there is going to be a sizeable delay, we don't have any information yet' and let peoples imaginations go wild.

That kind of situation is a tough call. I've seen a Kickstarter (Eve V tablet) do the same thing as you mentioned: "wait to update us until they had the information on hand". The reaction of the people is much of the same reaction echoed here: any info and communication (no matter how small) is preferred over none. Like you said, imaginations can run wild, but that's true on both sides. And silence can feed imagination just as much or more than small parts of empty info. Silence always concerns me more than bad news.

But at least we finally have news now, and will have more as things progress.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 10 August 2017, 21:57:25
but I'm not trying to rage at anyone in particular.

Get your head out of your ass.

Your head is so far up your ass

You're a goddamned moron.

Looks like you're trying to rage very specifically at someone.

I'm not a moron for understanding that **** happens and not getting upset about it. For being a mature adult in accepting that there was a delay and not getting bent out of shape because there wasn't immediate coddling. I'm not a moron for having a healthier perspective on the situation that doesn't equate person's communication with the quality of their product, for realizing there would likely be delays ahead of time (which everyone seems to have expressed believing) and when they happened being able to say 'saw that coming' to myself instead of 'I demand information immediately or I'm not buying your **** again' to them.


When I said "no one specifically" I meant the GB runners. With you, on the other hand, I'm simply not going to engage anymore, even as difficult as you are making that for me.  Good lord man.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Fri, 11 August 2017, 11:02:11
I would thank everyone for being patient with us. All of you to be exact. We are discussing with the manufacturer now, to see if it's possible to deliver those bottom in batches by not affecting much to the cost. If that is possible, we will be able to start delivering earlier.

With only 3/5 of the MOQ is fulfilled, aggreesively priced kit, money being withheld by PayPal, the delays and also issues with the QC, these are clearly the things that I have underestimated, when I naively pull Sherry and Sam in, to "give something back to community".

I understand that the lack of communication in the last few weeks have been worrying for you guys, I will check in more often to keep you posted. And mentioned earlier, there will be an update at least from us every week.

Cheers, enjoy your weekend.


Hey Juahenza, thanks for checking in. Since transparent bottoms are taking a lot of time to produce, wouldn't it be better to make the aluminum bottoms first since they have to be anodized and also get checked for any issues? Just my 2 cents for not having delays anymore.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Fri, 11 August 2017, 13:30:18
Hey Juahenza, thanks for checking in. Since transparent bottoms are taking a lot of time to produce, wouldn't it be better to make the aluminum bottoms first since they have to be anodized and also get checked for any issues? Just my 2 cents for not having delays anymore.

I'm betting you picked alu instead of PC eh? Nice attempt at trying to skip the queue  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Fri, 11 August 2017, 14:45:23
Hey Juahenza, thanks for checking in. Since transparent bottoms are taking a lot of time to produce, wouldn't it be better to make the aluminum bottoms first since they have to be anodized and also get checked for any issues? Just my 2 cents for not having delays anymore.

I'm betting you picked alu instead of PC eh? Nice attempt at trying to skip the queue  :thumb:

Not that its a bad thing, i got alu bottoms too and i had that thought initially. Though i'm pretty sure since they've already started they can't just stop and do something else. It made sense that you'd make the alu first if you knew the polycarb would take x amount of time longer.

I feel that they can't do anything on that front unfortunately, we're all going to have to live with that extra delay.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Fri, 11 August 2017, 15:49:48
Hey Juahenza, thanks for checking in. Since transparent bottoms are taking a lot of time to produce, wouldn't it be better to make the aluminum bottoms first since they have to be anodized and also get checked for any issues? Just my 2 cents for not having delays anymore.

I'm betting you picked alu instead of PC eh? Nice attempt at trying to skip the queue  :thumb:

Whoops busted  :p . But really I am serious about what I said. If an anodizing issue were to surface with alu bottoms shipping could get delayed to friggin 2018. I am completely fine with waiting 1-2 weeks extra for Alu bottoms but any more than that is just bad planning.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Mon, 14 August 2017, 15:02:54
I don't remember if I ordered an aluminum bottom or not, but after seeing Rama's M65-A with an aluminum bottom I kinda really super want the aluminum bottom on the Exent <3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 14 August 2017, 22:04:48
I don't remember if I ordered an aluminum bottom or not, but after seeing Rama's M65-A with an aluminum bottom I kinda really super want the aluminum bottom on the Exent <3

After seeing everything about RAMA's M65-A I really regret not getting one. There might be extra parts after this ships for people to get extra bits and pieces. I ended up getting one full kit for this and one barebones because I couldn't decide on just one color, or poly/alu bottom. Oh and because I have horrible financial prioritization.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ricyuyc on Mon, 14 August 2017, 22:30:27
I don't remember if I ordered an aluminum bottom or not, but after seeing Rama's M65-A with an aluminum bottom I kinda really super want the aluminum bottom on the Exent <3

After seeing everything about RAMA's M65-A I really regret not getting one. There might be extra parts after this ships for people to get extra bits and pieces. I ended up getting one full kit for this and one barebones because I couldn't decide on just one color, or poly/alu bottom. Oh and because I have horrible financial prioritization.
I have locked to Alu bottom at the first move since myself hate bottom lighting/RGB shine through.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: txclack on Mon, 14 August 2017, 22:47:00
I am willing to purchase the GMK set from anyone if you ordered it with the group buy and changed your mind after.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: typischt on Mon, 14 August 2017, 22:58:44
Congrats to everyone in the group buy for getting in on this. It's such a nice keyboard and I'm for sure gonna try to get one of the extras!
Is there a picture anywhere with the alu bottom?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 15 August 2017, 09:09:28
Managed to check on the anodized dark gray top today, they look pretty good. We should be expecting the pink ones in the next 2-3 days.

(http://i.imgur.com/JgzWHmm.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: speedemonv12 on Tue, 15 August 2017, 09:12:21
Managed to check on the anodized dark gray top today, they look pretty good. We should be expecting the pink ones in the next 2-3 days.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/JgzWHmm.jpg)

Awesome!

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Tue, 15 August 2017, 12:22:17
Managed to check on the anodized dark gray top today, they look pretty good. We should be expecting the pink ones in the next 2-3 days.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/JgzWHmm.jpg)



cool! is that the dark gray on the left, & then the black on the right side? or are they all gray here?
either way, they're looking really nice & smooth.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Tue, 15 August 2017, 12:35:07
That's some dark gray! Can't wait to see it in person
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 16 August 2017, 12:15:02
Managed to check on the anodized dark gray top today, they look pretty good. We should be expecting the pink ones in the next 2-3 days.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/JgzWHmm.jpg)

Looking good.  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: alexfry on Thu, 17 August 2017, 19:48:42
Excellent

This is what I’m looking for in updates.
Photographs of physical progress.

The details of the manafacuring process are as interesting as the final product from my perspective.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: shantanujoshi on Fri, 18 August 2017, 02:07:51
Damn these are turning out gorgeous hope there's extras too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Mon, 21 August 2017, 11:47:41
Holly crap! If anyone wants to give me their spot on this I want in!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Tue, 22 August 2017, 01:42:11
That dark gray looks amazing, so happy I went with it.  The excitement is creeping up more and more everyday.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Tue, 22 August 2017, 12:27:26
That dark gray looks amazing, so happy I went with it.  The excitement is creeping up more and more everyday.

Same here! Every day I get a little more excited :) I really appreciate all the hard work they are putting into it because I'm sure it's difficult! Can't wait for some more updates!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 23 August 2017, 12:06:12
Damn these are turning out gorgeous hope there's extras too.

MOQ was only 2/3rds filled and the remaining 1/3rd had to be purchased by the GB, so there should be extras to be had.  Keep your fingers crossed!   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 23 August 2017, 21:48:05
Hi guys, just thought to drop by for some quick update. The GMK set has just arrived at Sheraton, he will get a nice cafe on Saturday to take some nice pics. Polycarbonate bottom is in progress, there still a little warp (very little) with the parts, but it doesn't affect once everything is put together. Still expecting the pink anodized top, maybe tomorrow said the anodizing guy.

Enjoy the rest of the day, guys!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Wed, 23 August 2017, 21:55:23
Still looking for someone to take over my order.

Basic kit
Black top
Poly bottom
8° tilt
No extras
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KINGPIN on Thu, 24 August 2017, 00:53:54
Still looking for someone to take over my order.

Basic kit
Black top
Poly bottom
8° tilt
No extras
sorry but no love for basic
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Thu, 24 August 2017, 01:06:55
Still looking for someone to take over my order.

Basic kit
Black top
Poly bottom
8° tilt
No extras
sorry but no love for basic
Basics are keyboards too

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 25 August 2017, 15:08:41
With it being so late I'm going to assume the answer is "no", but would it be possible to change the color of my order? I want to switch from Grey to Black.

I'm thinking of building a new PC and I want the case and keyboard to match. Buying a black case or a case with black accents would be much easier than grey.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 26 August 2017, 00:28:28
With it being so late I'm going to assume the answer is "no", but would it be possible to change the color of my order? I want to switch from Grey to Black.

I'm thinking of building a new PC and I want the case and keyboard to match. Buying a black case or a case with black accents would be much easier than grey.

If it ends up being too late, I would recommend plasti-dip, you can coat it black, it wont harm the finish and you can remove it easily any time. If done right you can get a really smooth matte black finish that will protect the aluminum underneath and hold up to use without any issues.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 26 August 2017, 01:37:18
With it being so late I'm going to assume the answer is "no", but would it be possible to change the color of my order? I want to switch from Grey to Black.

I'm thinking of building a new PC and I want the case and keyboard to match. Buying a black case or a case with black accents would be much easier than grey.

If it ends up being too late, I would recommend plasti-dip, you can coat it black, it wont harm the finish and you can remove it easily any time. If done right you can get a really smooth matte black finish that will protect the aluminum underneath and hold up to use without any issues.

Yes. Plastidip a perfect, gorgeous machined and anodized aluminum surface, because all of us the first thing we do when we get a nice thing is throw it into the dirt to give it that beautiful, covered in scratches dust and grime finish. I suggest you do that, and THEN plastidip it, just to extra ruin the keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rustywok on Sat, 26 August 2017, 01:58:29
With it being so late I'm going to assume the answer is "no", but would it be possible to change the color of my order? I want to switch from Grey to Black.

I'm thinking of building a new PC and I want the case and keyboard to match. Buying a black case or a case with black accents would be much easier than grey.

I don't know what your PC budget is like but Caselabs sells a gunmetal gray case. Not cheap, but not that hard to source.

http://www.caselabs-store.com/magnum-sma8-customizable/

Also, it's my dream PC case.  :) Next year, maybe. Good luck. Sounds like an interesting project, matching PC case and keyboard case.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 26 August 2017, 04:17:48
With it being so late I'm going to assume the answer is "no", but would it be possible to change the color of my order? I want to switch from Grey to Black.

I'm thinking of building a new PC and I want the case and keyboard to match. Buying a black case or a case with black accents would be much easier than grey.

If it ends up being too late, I would recommend plasti-dip, you can coat it black, it wont harm the finish and you can remove it easily any time. If done right you can get a really smooth matte black finish that will protect the aluminum underneath and hold up to use without any issues.

Yes. Plastidip a perfect, gorgeous machined and anodized aluminum surface, because all of us the first thing we do when we get a nice thing is throw it into the dirt to give it that beautiful, covered in scratches dust and grime finish. I suggest you do that, and THEN plastidip it, just to extra ruin the keyboard.

What are you even talking about? He is having second thoughts about the color and I offered a completely harmless and easy solution.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 26 August 2017, 04:19:04
<duplicate post>
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 26 August 2017, 11:33:55
If it ends up being too late, I would recommend plasti-dip, you can coat it black, it wont harm the finish and you can remove it easily any time. If done right you can get a really smooth matte black finish that will protect the aluminum underneath and hold up to use without any issues.

Nice! That might be a perfect alternative solution actually.

I don't know what your PC budget is like but Caselabs sells a gunmetal gray case. Not cheap, but not that hard to source.

http://www.caselabs-store.com/magnum-sma8-customizable/

Also, it's my dream PC case.  :) Next year, maybe. Good luck. Sounds like an interesting project, matching PC case and keyboard case.

Ah, I came across that case when looking for some grey/gunmetal cases myself. Way out of my budget, but it's definitely a beautiful case.

And thanks! I want to go for a very uniform look, like something you would see at the top of r/battlestations . So I want all peripherals and devices to match very well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 26 August 2017, 11:34:31
With it being so late I'm going to assume the answer is "no", but would it be possible to change the color of my order? I want to switch from Grey to Black.

I'm thinking of building a new PC and I want the case and keyboard to match. Buying a black case or a case with black accents would be much easier than grey.

If it ends up being too late, I would recommend plasti-dip, you can coat it black, it wont harm the finish and you can remove it easily any time. If done right you can get a really smooth matte black finish that will protect the aluminum underneath and hold up to use without any issues.

Yes. Plastidip a perfect, gorgeous machined and anodized aluminum surface, because all of us the first thing we do when we get a nice thing is throw it into the dirt to give it that beautiful, covered in scratches dust and grime finish. I suggest you do that, and THEN plastidip it, just to extra ruin the keyboard.

What are you even talking about? He is having second thoughts about the color and I offered a completely harmless and easy solution.


It's harmless sure but not a solution. Plastidip is stupid.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 26 August 2017, 18:24:43
Sorry to break up the pointless bickering, but:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Sat, 26 August 2017, 21:22:31
Sorry to break up the pointless bickering, but:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/)
So beautiful
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 26 August 2017, 23:54:42
Any more pictures? I'd love to see a silver case.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Sun, 27 August 2017, 00:35:05
Any more pictures? I'd love to see a silver case.
The silver will come later, after pink and blue. I was informed that the pink was already ready on last Friday, didn't have the time to check though. Will most probably do it tomorrow. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 29 August 2017, 03:51:18
Got some of these today

Black
(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)

Pink
(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)

Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.

(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: cynviloq on Tue, 29 August 2017, 04:25:43
Got some of these today

Black
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)


Pink
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)


Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)


Can I add a purple kit to my current order...? Or even just the top plate if possible?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Tue, 29 August 2017, 04:28:14
Got some of these today

Black
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)


Pink
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)


Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)




Damn, GMK Laser would look sick in that purple.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Tue, 29 August 2017, 05:05:27
Got some of these today

Black
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)


Pink
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)


Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)


That pink looks so vibrant, real eye candy. Also the purple HAS to go on an either Skelator or Laser. Black is classy as always. Thank you for the pictures juahenza.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 29 August 2017, 06:51:51
Got some of these today

Black
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)


Pink
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)


Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)


Tasty.  :P
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 29 August 2017, 16:42:33
Got some of these today

Black
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)


Pink
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)


Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)


Oh boy. PM'd.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wongie on Tue, 29 August 2017, 17:33:24
So, so tempted for that purple!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Tue, 29 August 2017, 21:51:16
So, so tempted for that purple!

Im right there with you.  All of them look so good.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 30 August 2017, 12:34:56
Got some of these today

Black
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)


Pink
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)


Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)


Oh my, PMing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Wed, 30 August 2017, 13:05:40
If people switching to purple frees up a black or dark grey, I'd love to buy it (in addition to my existing order).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 30 August 2017, 16:05:55
Looking forward to seeing the blue ones!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Wed, 30 August 2017, 16:21:35
hnnnnnng I hope there's purple left... my dreams come true  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 30 August 2017, 18:05:03
Got some of these today

Black
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/fdCCP1w.jpg)


Pink
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/1wZfcFO.jpg)


Btw, I do have some anodized in purple as well. It's a mistake due to some communication error, I will keep them as it is since they do look pretty good. If any of you want to change your case color to purple, you may send me a PM.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/5P6EJ0o.jpg)


Oh my, PMing.

Me too. Hopefully can get one.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 30 August 2017, 21:02:48
Hi guys, I've just responded to all the address change pm/email. Haven't gotten the time to reply to those who requested for the purple top though. Will try to do it tonight or tmr morning. Thank you guys.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KINGPIN on Thu, 31 August 2017, 00:50:44
Hi guys, I've just responded to all the address change pm/email. Haven't gotten the time to reply to those who requested for the purple top though. Will try to do it tonight or tmr morning. Thank you guys.
How many of those purple one existed?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 31 August 2017, 20:31:33
Hi guys, I've just responded to all the address change pm/email. Haven't gotten the time to reply to those who requested for the purple top though. Will try to do it tonight or tmr morning. Thank you guys.
How many of those purple one existed?
Less than 10 I'm afraid.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KingRama on Thu, 31 August 2017, 21:04:19
Dayum, purple looks lit  :o  Got to see the prototype at the LA meetup, can't wait :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:09:11
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.

(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:07:19
If there are any purple left, would it be possible to just buy it in addition to my existing order?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:08:37
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)


Is there a website or something that you use to generate these? I see them in people's signatures and would like some of my own!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:49:09
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)


Is there a website or something that you use to generate these? I see them in people's signatures and would like some of my own!

People make them with MS paint. It's really not too difficult. If you're not so artistically inclined there's a pixel art thread somewhere full or these images (too lazy to find it), most common keyboards have already been done. If you have any specific requests feel free to PM me too, I think they're pretty fun to make.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Fri, 01 September 2017, 10:52:17
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)


Is there a website or something that you use to generate these? I see them in people's signatures and would like some of my own!

People make them with MS paint. It's really not too difficult. If you're not so artistically inclined there's a pixel art thread somewhere full or these images (too lazy to find it), most common keyboards have already been done. If you have any specific requests feel free to PM me too, I think they're pretty fun to make.
Ah thanks! I'll look into it. :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: stand.geek on Fri, 01 September 2017, 11:42:32
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)


Nice! I think you should add a purple exent with SA troubled minds, would be great I think  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Fri, 01 September 2017, 12:20:22
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)


Nice! I think you should add a purple exent with SA troubled minds, would be great I think  :))

(http://i.imgur.com/tdp0ZEH.png)

Here you go! The purples seem to match very well, at least they do on the purple Exent photo and the troubled minds render.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 13:12:17
If there are any purple left, would it be possible to just buy it in addition to my existing order?

Right? lol
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Sat, 02 September 2017, 01:01:30
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)


Awesome!! Can I have a pixel of silver Extent with Godspeed? ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Sat, 02 September 2017, 07:50:00
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)


Awesome!! Can I have a pixel of silver Extent with Godspeed? ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/vFhOTx2.png)

Like this?

Edit: I got reply #1000. Woo!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Sat, 02 September 2017, 12:01:53
In case anyone was wondering what a purple Exent would look like with Laser or Skeletor, I did some more pixel art.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VuPbbmE.png)


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOOwX7K.png)


Awesome!! Can I have a pixel of silver Extent with Godspeed? ;D

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/vFhOTx2.png)


Like this?

Edit: I got reply #1000. Woo!!

Perfect!! Thanks man. My dream combo going to be true!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: panzermuffin on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:30:53
Awman. It seems that the most wonderful GBs ended just before I discovered all of this keyboard stuff.

How likely is it, that I can get my hands on a black EXENT? Are there many leftovers?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Sun, 03 September 2017, 14:12:24
Awman. It seems that the most wonderful GBs ended just before I discovered all of this keyboard stuff.

How likely is it, that I can get my hands on a black EXENT? Are there many leftovers?

Same here with the GBs all ending just before I got into spending lots of money on keebs haha. Just hoping to snag some leftovers for either this or the M65-A

I would like a Blue top + silver or grey bottom for Deep Space so bad.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Sun, 03 September 2017, 19:37:40
Awman. It seems that the most wonderful GBs ended just before I discovered all of this keyboard stuff.

How likely is it, that I can get my hands on a black EXENT? Are there many leftovers?

Same here with the GBs all ending just before I got into spending lots of money on keebs haha. Just hoping to snag some leftovers for either this or the M65-A

I would like a Blue top + silver or grey bottom for Deep Space so bad.

There should be kits available after the GB.  If you go back a page or two it was said that only 2/3 of the MOQ was filled and the other 1/3 was purchased to make it happen.  So you should definitely have a chance if you keep a tab on when its shipping etc.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Sun, 03 September 2017, 19:55:15
Awman. It seems that the most wonderful GBs ended just before I discovered all of this keyboard stuff.

How likely is it, that I can get my hands on a black EXENT? Are there many leftovers?

Same here with the GBs all ending just before I got into spending lots of money on keebs haha. Just hoping to snag some leftovers for either this or the M65-A

I would like a Blue top + silver or grey bottom for Deep Space so bad.

There should be kits available after the GB.  If you go back a page or two it was said that only 2/3 of the MOQ was filled and the other 1/3 was purchased to make it happen.  So you should definitely have a chance if you keep a tab on when its shipping etc.

Yep, checking this thread daily, thanks :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Mon, 04 September 2017, 00:41:09
Awman. It seems that the most wonderful GBs ended just before I discovered all of this keyboard stuff.

How likely is it, that I can get my hands on a black EXENT? Are there many leftovers?

Same here with the GBs all ending just before I got into spending lots of money on keebs haha. Just hoping to snag some leftovers for either this or the M65-A

I would like a Blue top + silver or grey bottom for Deep Space so bad.

There should be kits available after the GB.  If you go back a page or two it was said that only 2/3 of the MOQ was filled and the other 1/3 was purchased to make it happen.  So you should definitely have a chance if you keep a tab on when its shipping etc.

Yep, checking this thread daily, thanks :)

No problem  :thumb: hope you're able to grab one.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 04 September 2017, 22:01:17
All PM replied, do send another one if I'd missed anyone of you by chance.

Btw, all purple tops are taken. Thank you :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Mon, 04 September 2017, 23:01:18
All PM replied, do send another one if I'd missed anyone of you by chance.

Btw, all purple tops are taken. Thank you :)

I feel super lucky :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 04 September 2017, 23:10:07
Me too! Thanks juahenza!


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Tue, 05 September 2017, 00:45:51
Blue ones are all taken too :( but super stoked to have a grey one nonetheless :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Tue, 05 September 2017, 14:54:08
Filled out form, this build looks awesome! :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Tue, 05 September 2017, 15:23:00
Still waiting for that invoice. Order gone in on the 27th Aug.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Tue, 05 September 2017, 15:48:55
Filled out form, this build looks awesome! :cool:
The buying phase is over, you need to wait for the extras.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 05 September 2017, 18:27:57
Still waiting for that invoice. Order gone in on the 27th Aug.

You missed the order period by about 4 months  :))

Better wait till extras are offered.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Tue, 05 September 2017, 18:30:07
Still waiting for that invoice. Order gone in on the 27th Aug.
mine is still available if you were still interested
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Tue, 05 September 2017, 19:22:09
Still waiting for that invoice. Order gone in on the 27th Aug.
mine is still available if you were still interested

Which one did you order?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Tue, 05 September 2017, 23:13:05
Will parts produced by the factory get QC before shipping? X60's issues seem quite sad, it would suck if the same thing happened with the Exent since our factory is new too. ( If I'm wrong about this ignore this part)

Naw I think that's a reasonable concern. Would be interested in hearing what Juanhenza has to say on the matter.

What key set do you have planned for Exent in your pixel signature?

Would you be able to make a Grey with XDA Godspeed Solar Alphas and/or Supernova Alphas and Ares Mods?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: cynviloq on Tue, 05 September 2017, 23:16:34
I'm very much excited for the Black case, but super hyped for Purple too!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Panzerhawx on Wed, 06 September 2017, 15:32:37
Forgive me for being ignorant, but does anyone know when this is shipping?

It's been quite a while.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Wed, 06 September 2017, 15:48:18
Forgive me for being ignorant, but does anyone know when this is shipping?

It's been quite a while.

From the last update we should be seeing them start to go out by late September/Early October and completely finished shipping by December. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 06 September 2017, 17:24:58
I'm down for an extra!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 06 September 2017, 18:37:17
Did anyone get a spare brass plate? Pm me :)


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Wed, 06 September 2017, 18:44:24
I'm down for an extra!!

I might be down for an extra as well, will have to see how Irma goes before I decide though  :-X
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 06 September 2017, 22:35:31
Dang, purple woulda been sick, I was really hoping for a purple m65 for laser, woulda been a good alternate. I'm still hoping to get a pink extra and maybe grey lol.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Thu, 07 September 2017, 10:42:00
Forgive me for being ignorant, but does anyone know when this is shipping?

It's been quite a while.
probably not until next month. 2nd post on the first page contains all updates.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mrdar206 on Fri, 08 September 2017, 01:29:06
(https://scontent.fhan2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21366639_1710309242313910_545393208767804704_o.jpg?oh=015b9396443ca626d1df0bf1dbb66f37&oe=5A19916D)
I wanna to transfer my slots, pm me if anyone interested, thank you

Edit: The grey kit and black alu bottom is gone (hope you like it,foxlive  :D)
Black set and silver bottom are now wait for Juahenza confirmation to transfer to energyd
Thank you
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: shantanujoshi on Fri, 08 September 2017, 13:54:20
Still waiting for that invoice. Order gone in on the 27th Aug.
mine is still available if you were still interested
I'd take an extra :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: panzermuffin on Sat, 09 September 2017, 04:23:21
Hey! I have a question about the board. Does it arrive completely assembled? Id like to have the premium bundle but without the switches as I want some Zealios. Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Sat, 09 September 2017, 07:05:51
Hey! I have a question about the board. Does it arrive completely assembled? Id like to have the premium bundle but without the switches as I want some Zealios. Thank you!

it does not arrive assembled
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sat, 09 September 2017, 19:41:35
Any updates on the bottoms?  :)
Hopefully we're on track to a late sept/early october ship date  :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kbdfans on Sun, 10 September 2017, 04:58:06
NICE keyboard
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 10 September 2017, 05:57:22
Is it possible to purchase a second set of switches?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Sun, 10 September 2017, 06:36:50
If anyone has a brass plate or an aluminum bottom in any color, hit me up please, I'll happily take it off your hands.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 13 September 2017, 01:35:05
Is it possible to purchase a second set of switches?
I am afraid that it is not possible.

Any updates on the bottoms?  :)
Hopefully we're on track to a late sept/early october ship date  :D

The anodizing for the tops are almost done. Only silver is left at this moment. As for the bottom, only one process of machining is left. I will try to get some pics tmr. As for now, here's the blue top

(https://i.imgur.com/pjJGnEp.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 13 September 2017, 01:48:05
Ah the blue looks gorgeous!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Wed, 13 September 2017, 02:45:57
so gorgeous, someone sell me their blue lol
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 13 September 2017, 04:13:30
Just join the GB by buying one of the slot of mrdar206! I am so excited. This gray exent with the grade sa keyset will be amazing!  :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 13 September 2017, 11:18:50

The anodizing for the tops are almost done. Only silver is left at this moment. As for the bottom, only one process of machining is left. I will try to get some pics tmr. As for now, here's the blue top

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pjJGnEp.jpg)


Oh damn.
Are there still blue tops available? to switch that is.
I'm second guessing if i want to change just for nautilus.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 13 September 2017, 11:22:17
just for nautilus.
This is exactly my plan now!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 13 September 2017, 11:28:43
I thought that the blue would be a tough fit for a set.

Looks like it fits with nautilus, a touch bit darker would make it perfect tbh.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lzlzh035 on Wed, 13 September 2017, 11:36:18
still waiting happily  :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Thu, 14 September 2017, 02:23:34
Does the plate support 3 1u modifiers right of the spacebar? Layout pic does not show it but the prototype pics on Flickr did.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Thu, 14 September 2017, 22:50:40
I'm probably the last one that get in! so excited! thx mrdar206!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 15 September 2017, 04:21:03
I'm probably the last one that get in! so excited! thx mrdar206!

I am as excited as you I think! Can't wait to have this exent in my hands! Thanks mrdar206  :p
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 20 September 2017, 02:07:42
I have a little question. I would like to go with the splitted space bar layout on the exent (purple line). I never used one before and my question is:
What kind of stabilizer do we need for the two spacebar?

Thanks  :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 20 September 2017, 02:12:26
I have a little question. I would like to go with the splitted space bar layout on the exent (purple line). I never used one before and my question is:
What kind of stabilizer do we need for the two spacebar?

Thanks  :D
The usual 2u, 2 of it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 20 September 2017, 02:17:46
I have a little question. I would like to go with the splitted space bar layout on the exent (purple line). I never used one before and my question is:
What kind of stabilizer do we need for the two spacebar?

Thanks  :D
The usual 2u, 2 of it.

Thanks mate !   ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 20 September 2017, 10:39:33
I am waiting for this keeb so hard! My 67g zealios + grade sa keyset and cable from mechcable are waiting ! It will be neat  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 20 September 2017, 11:10:06
Does the plate support 3 1u modifiers right of the spacebar? Layout pic does not show it but the prototype pics on Flickr did.
It does.  :))
btw, I am playing with the Exent PCB already. 4 huge boxes of PCBs just came in today. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 20 September 2017, 11:12:52
Does the plate support 3 1u modifiers right of the spacebar? Layout pic does not show it but the prototype pics on Flickr did.
It does.  :))
btw, I am playing with the Exent PCB already. 4 huge boxes of PCBs just came in today.

Ahh we want pics of the pcb !   :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 20 September 2017, 12:38:15
Does the plate support 3 1u modifiers right of the spacebar? Layout pic does not show it but the prototype pics on Flickr did.
It does.  :))
btw, I am playing with the Exent PCB already. 4 huge boxes of PCBs just came in today.

 :eek: :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 20 September 2017, 12:52:50
Does the plate support 3 1u modifiers right of the spacebar? Layout pic does not show it but the prototype pics on Flickr did.
It does.  :))
btw, I am playing with the Exent PCB already. 4 huge boxes of PCBs just came in today.

Pretty nice news, thanks! I like 1.5u mods a lot but sometimes they cost a lot in some keysets.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: merutz on Wed, 20 September 2017, 15:37:03
Any new ETA? We're approaching October.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 20 September 2017, 15:49:43
Any new ETA? We're approaching October.  ;D
+1 !  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Thu, 21 September 2017, 11:20:50
Does the plate support 3 1u modifiers right of the spacebar? Layout pic does not show it but the prototype pics on Flickr did.
It does.  :))
btw, I am playing with the Exent PCB already. 4 huge boxes of PCBs just came in today.

Quick question, will the PCB work with Zeal's Gold Plated Hot Swap Sockets? I got some for this board but will use them elsewhere if they don't fit.

Thanks,  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 21 September 2017, 16:58:08
Why haven't pictures of the PCBs been posted yet if you have them?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 22 September 2017, 02:11:17
Hi, guys, here's the pic of the PCB. Just had a few tested with. Everything seems good :thumb:
It's approaching the last week of September, while there's only one process left for the bottom case. We are still on schedule to start shipping in early October.

(https://i.imgur.com/gVLtlqj.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 22 September 2017, 02:16:08
Btw, I've already responded to all DMs and emails. If I happened to miss any of yours out, do send me another one. Thank you and have a nice weekend ahead.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Fri, 22 September 2017, 03:10:01
Hi, guys, here's the pic of the PCB. Just had a few tested with. Everything seems good :thumb:
It's approaching the last week of September, while there's only one process left for the bottom case. We are still on schedule to start shipping in early October.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gVLtlqj.jpg)


Thank you for your update.

I'm glad to hear the news that you'll start shipping in early October. I hope this GB will go well as scheduled. I can't wait to get this board. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 22 September 2017, 04:00:16
Hi, guys, here's the pic of the PCB. Just had a few tested with. Everything seems good :thumb:
It's approaching the last week of September, while there's only one process left for the bottom case. We are still on schedule to start shipping in early October.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gVLtlqj.jpg)


They look amazing!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 22 September 2017, 04:38:02
Btw, I've already responded to all DMs and emails. If I happened to miss any of yours out, do send me another one. Thank you and have a nice weekend ahead.

Can I has mine shipped to yuktsi and then he assembles it for me lovingly with my goos ty
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Fri, 22 September 2017, 13:18:25
We are still on schedule to start shipping in early October.

Thanks for the update!

Does this include the orders with GMK keycaps?

Have a nice weekend  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Fri, 22 September 2017, 15:26:24
We are still on schedule to start shipping in early October.

Thanks for the update!

Does this include the orders with GMK keycaps?

Have a nice weekend  ;D

It probably is, the set is finished.  Unless it hasn't been sent to whoever is shipping out the kits(?)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Fri, 22 September 2017, 15:43:28
Awesome, can't wait to get this board!  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: beerafffe1 on Sat, 23 September 2017, 08:07:06
Can I still order this? The order form seems to be open but the GB was way back in Jan?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Sat, 23 September 2017, 08:39:09
Can I still order this? The order form seems to be open but the GB was way back in Jan?

Nah mate it’s been closed for ages. Maybe you can take an offer off someone though.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Troif on Sat, 23 September 2017, 08:39:20
Can I still order this? The order form seems to be open but the GB was way back in Jan?
I don’t think so... just contact juahenza to know if there are any left overs


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: beerafffe1 on Sat, 23 September 2017, 08:51:54
Thanks for the replies!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Sat, 23 September 2017, 17:46:16
Holy **** this board is dope.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Sat, 23 September 2017, 20:52:28
@juahenza, what's the footprint around the top right switch center mount, the four pads in a square?

Is anything extra broken out aside from the ICSP?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 24 September 2017, 06:28:24
@juahenza, what's the footprint around the top right switch center mount, the four pads in a square?

Is anything extra broken out aside from the ICSP?

4 pin SMD LED pad, if I was gonna make an educated guess, I'd say this pcb most be related to the one used in the TGR910, since that board eschews the top right switch in favour of an illuminated logo
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sun, 24 September 2017, 21:47:04
@juahenza, what's the footprint around the top right switch center mount, the four pads in a square?

Is anything extra broken out aside from the ICSP?

4 pin SMD LED pad, if I was gonna make an educated guess, I'd say this pcb most be related to the one used in the TGR910, since that board eschews the top right switch in favour of an illuminated logo
Yeah, correct.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Sun, 24 September 2017, 22:36:21
How would one go about cancelling an order?

Scratch that, decided I'm staying in until it arrives.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 24 September 2017, 22:43:47
How would one go about cancelling an order?

PM Juahenza
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 26 September 2017, 11:53:43
Hi, guys, here's the pic of the PCB.

18 RGB LEDs.  *Pants tighten.*
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 26 September 2017, 12:41:44
How would one go about cancelling an order?

Any chance you ordered a premium kit? I need dem keps
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Wed, 27 September 2017, 09:43:43
How would one go about cancelling an order?

Any chance you ordered a premium kit? I need dem keps

I did, but I've decided I'm staying in until it arrives.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 27 September 2017, 22:26:16
How would one go about cancelling an order?

Any chance you ordered a premium kit? I need dem keps

I did, but I've decided I'm staying in until it arrives.
:-*
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 01 October 2017, 21:55:00
How are the polycarb bottoms and the remainder of the parts looking like now that we're in October?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 03 October 2017, 00:08:45
Juahenza - I thought we were to get weekly updates. I feel like that hasn't been the case? I could be mistaken, though.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Tue, 03 October 2017, 00:18:10
Juahenza - I thought we were to get weekly updates. I feel like that hasn't been the case? I could be mistaken, though.
We should give credit where it's due, Juahenza has been giving us updates real nicely for a while, no need to rush things now.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 03 October 2017, 01:34:33
Juahenza - I thought we were to get weekly updates. I feel like that hasn't been the case? I could be mistaken, though.
We should give credit where it's due, Juahenza has been giving us updates real nicely for a while, no need to rush things now.

You're right, we're only three months behind schedule, why rush now indeed?

I give credit where credit's due, and juahenza gets a lot of it, but i'd still like to see roughly weekly updates, even if only text/verbal.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 03 October 2017, 06:48:28
Juahenza - I thought we were to get weekly updates. I feel like that hasn't been the case? I could be mistaken, though.

Yeah, he never really did proper weekly updates aside from the one on Aug. 9. Or at least what I would consider a proper weekly update. But he has seemed better at communication, and last we heard was about the PCBs on Sept. 22.

The last we heard about the cases/bottoms was Sept. 13, which has been much longer than a week but still pretty recent.

All that being said I certainly wouldn't mind an update myself. Especially since October is here and it was supposed to be nearing completion.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 04 October 2017, 04:25:10
Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.

Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 04 October 2017, 04:25:57
Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Wed, 04 October 2017, 04:31:04
Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?
Yeah.  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 04 October 2017, 04:31:39
Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?
Yeah.  :cool:
Excellent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Wed, 04 October 2017, 06:22:30
Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.

Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate.  :thumb:

Good news! I hope, shipped out as scheduled.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 04 October 2017, 06:48:30
Any ETA on the alu bottoms? Hopefully it gets to my door before late nov.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 04 October 2017, 06:50:32
Just received my zealios 67g today with some zeal stab! Everything is now ready and waiting for the keyboard to arrive!  :p
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 04 October 2017, 11:12:19
That's great news. So the polycarb bottoms will ship out first right? We won't have to wait for the Aluminum bottoms?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Wed, 04 October 2017, 11:19:35
That's great news. So the polycarb bottoms will ship out first right? We won't have to wait for the Aluminum bottoms?
seems that way. said he'll start shipping next week.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 04 October 2017, 11:40:58
That's great news. So the polycarb bottoms will ship out first right? We won't have to wait for the Aluminum bottoms?
seems that way. said he'll start shipping next week.

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Oh man. I sure hope so. I want this thing in my hands.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Wed, 04 October 2017, 13:39:10
Anyone know if extra aluminum bottoms will be for sale ?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 04 October 2017, 13:43:19
I have an aluminum bottom, i can trad it for poly carb maybe. I ask the fb owner for a polycarb bottom to by in supplement but still waiting for response. You can pm if you want ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 04 October 2017, 15:25:19
Anyone know if extra aluminum bottoms will be for sale ?

doubt it
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Wed, 04 October 2017, 16:49:33
Anyone know if extra aluminum bottoms will be for sale ?

doubt it

I asked juahenza and he said no  :'(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zhihuichan on Thu, 05 October 2017, 20:30:28
How about thec
Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.

Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate.  :thumb:
How about the aluminum bottom?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: nickheller on Mon, 09 October 2017, 09:55:49
Is it possible to purchase a second set of switches?
I am afraid that it is not possible.

Any updates on the bottoms?  :)
Hopefully we're on track to a late sept/early october ship date  :D

The anodizing for the tops are almost done. Only silver is left at this moment. As for the bottom, only one process of machining is left. I will try to get some pics tmr. As for now, here's the blue top

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pjJGnEp.jpg)


This blue looks amazing
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 10 October 2017, 13:54:08
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: popkorn62 on Tue, 10 October 2017, 14:04:04
I’m wondering if I ever joined this GB???????!! I couldn’t find my paypal receipt so I probably forgot to join :/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Wed, 11 October 2017, 12:59:03
Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.

Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate.  :thumb:

I hope everything is going OK with shipping! :thumb: Really looking forward to building this thing!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Munnybear on Wed, 11 October 2017, 21:08:00
Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.

Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate.  :thumb:

Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 12 October 2017, 01:38:51
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?
Yeah, everything is with us already. I had some photos but my phone decided not to boot up :(

Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.

Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate.  :thumb:

Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
Yes, will be notified individually. Tracking number is going to be updated to PayPal once your parts are shipped.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Thu, 12 October 2017, 02:18:44
Thanks for the Update yuktsi!


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: stand.geek on Thu, 12 October 2017, 02:41:26
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?
Yeah, everything is with us already. I had some photos but my phone decided not to boot up :(

Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.

Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate.  :thumb:

Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
Yes, will be notified individually. Tracking number is going to be updated to PayPal once your parts are shipped.

Thanks sam! Can't wait! the hype is up again!  :p
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 12 October 2017, 06:30:54
Is... is it happening?   :-X
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Thu, 12 October 2017, 08:39:36
Is... is it happening?   :-X
HYPE
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Thu, 12 October 2017, 10:54:38
Hype. D-day is coming....
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: popkorn62 on Thu, 12 October 2017, 14:50:26
Found my receipt! Hypeeeeeee
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: vwls on Fri, 13 October 2017, 16:52:00
So excited!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 16 October 2017, 15:00:16
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?
Yeah, everything is with us already. I had some photos but my phone decided not to boot up :(

Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.

Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate.  :thumb:

Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
Yes, will be notified individually. Tracking number is going to be updated to PayPal once your parts are shipped.

WOOT!!!  Just got back from my honeymoon, so my mailbox will be waiting!   :p

Thanks All!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sherryton on Mon, 16 October 2017, 15:14:14
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?
Yeah, everything is with us already. I had some photos but my phone decided not to boot up :(

Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.

Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate.  :thumb:

Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
Yes, will be notified individually. Tracking number is going to be updated to PayPal once your parts are shipped.

WOOT!!!  Just got back from my honeymoon, so my mailbox will be waiting!   :p

Thanks All!

Where did you guys go? I hope you had a lot of fun!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Mon, 16 October 2017, 15:25:43
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?
Yeah, everything is with us already. I had some photos but my phone decided not to boot up :(

Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.

Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate.  :thumb:

Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
Yes, will be notified individually. Tracking number is going to be updated to PayPal once your parts are shipped.

WOOT!!!  Just got back from my honeymoon, so my mailbox will be waiting!   :p

Thanks All!

Same here! Every happy marriage should have an Exent at home.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 17 October 2017, 19:02:56
What's the status on the alu bottoms?  :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: msilvv on Wed, 18 October 2017, 14:12:59
My apologies in advance if I've missed something, since the payment deadline passed I haven't been watching this thread super carefully. Is there any word on extras for these e.g. when/if they will be available?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Thu, 19 October 2017, 14:27:11
I check this forum at least 20 times a day because of the amount of hype I'm experiencing waiting for this!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Thu, 19 October 2017, 15:46:15
Anyone get their tracking # yet?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 19 October 2017, 15:58:12
Anyone get their tracking # yet?

Feel like we're probably a few weeks out yet, but I dunno, just my inkling.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 19 October 2017, 20:45:44
What's the status on the alu bottoms?  :)
Machining is in progress already. Expected to be finished by the end of this month, then will be sent for anodizing.

Anyone get their tracking # yet?
Parcel hasn't been shipped yet, you guys will start receiving it in the next few days.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 20 October 2017, 08:05:11
What's the status on the alu bottoms?  :)
Machining is in progress already. Expected to be finished by the end of this month, then will be sent for anodizing.

Anyone get their tracking # yet?
Parcel hasn't been shipped yet, you guys will start receiving it in the next few days.

Best news I've heard all week.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 20 October 2017, 16:01:23
Juahenza did you successfully collect the polycarbonate bottoms?
Yeah, everything is with us already. I had some photos but my phone decided not to boot up :(

Hello guys, I just received the text from the manufacturers that polycarbonate bottom is ready. Everything is in place except for the aluminum bottom. Will collect the bottom by Friday, should start shipping the boards out next week.

Happy Mid-autumn Festival to those who celebrate.  :thumb:

Hi, just want to know if we will get individual notification when our order is shipped. Or this is thread is already the most updated place to check in for shipping info?
Yes, will be notified individually. Tracking number is going to be updated to PayPal once your parts are shipped.

WOOT!!!  Just got back from my honeymoon, so my mailbox will be waiting!   :p

Thanks All!

Where did you guys go? I hope you had a lot of fun!

We went to Italy!!!  It was great.  3 days in Rome, 3 days in Perugia, and 3 days in Florence.  One more night in Rome, then back to Portland!  It was the first time I've been away from work/kids in...  almost a decade.  It was very refreshing.  Re-entry back into work has been a bit rough, but... hard to complain!

I'm one of the suckers with an aluminum bottom, so it looks like it might be a bit until our marriage bears an EXENT.   Still can't wait!!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 20 October 2017, 18:32:44
We went to Italy!!!  It was great.  3 days in Rome, 3 days in Perugia, and 3 days in Florence.  One more night in Rome, then back to Portland!  It was the first time I've been away from work/kids in...  almost a decade.  It was very refreshing.  Re-entry back into work has been a bit rough, but... hard to complain!
I'm one of the suckers with an aluminum bottom, so it looks like it might be a bit until our marriage bears an EXENT.   Still can't wait!!!

Portlander here with a alu bottom as well. Hoping to have these by the next meet
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Rogerwyf on Sun, 22 October 2017, 00:23:03
My apologies in advance if I've missed something, since the payment deadline passed I haven't been watching this thread super carefully. Is there any word on extras for these e.g. when/if they will be available?

Wondering if there is any extras as well ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Sun, 22 October 2017, 02:41:07
My apologies in advance if I've missed something, since the payment deadline passed I haven't been watching this thread super carefully. Is there any word on extras for these e.g. when/if they will be available?

Wondering if there is any extras as well ;D
There will be plenty of extras when the GB ends, keep an eye on here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Rogerwyf on Sun, 22 October 2017, 20:48:27
My apologies in advance if I've missed something, since the payment deadline passed I haven't been watching this thread super carefully. Is there any word on extras for these e.g. when/if they will be available?

Wondering if there is any extras as well ;D
There will be plenty of extras when the GB ends, keep an eye on here.

Oh great! Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Tue, 24 October 2017, 19:27:05
If we ordered two boards, one will aluminum and one polycarbonate will they ship separately?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 25 October 2017, 13:46:30
Hey Juahenza and Yuktsi, when will the shipping start? I'm quite hyped about seeing other people's EXENTs.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: speedemonv12 on Wed, 25 October 2017, 13:47:44
Hey Juahenza and Yuktsi, when will the shipping start? I'm quite hyped about seeing other people's EXENTs.
Where are you seeing other EXENTs?

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 25 October 2017, 14:05:40
Hey Juahenza and Yuktsi, when will the shipping start? I'm quite hyped about seeing other people's EXENTs.
Where are you seeing other EXENTs?

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Have not seen any other ones yet, just wondering what people will do with theirs.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: merutz on Thu, 26 October 2017, 01:54:49
Here's the "concept art" for mine  :))

 (https://i.imgur.com/H2dE2C6.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Thu, 26 October 2017, 09:33:13
Here's the "concept art" for mine  :))

 
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/H2dE2C6.jpg)

That's a proper endgame, just needs a split spacebar ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Thu, 26 October 2017, 12:58:49
Here is my best attempt at photoshopping what mine will look like  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/NhvSDIi.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Thu, 26 October 2017, 13:10:19
Here is my best attempt at photoshopping what mine will look like  ;D

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NhvSDIi.jpg)

Have you considered a back up set

I think that board would also look amazing with SA Night King; https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92098.0

Only $115 ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 26 October 2017, 13:14:51
Yall's hyping over this keyboard and it's been "you'll receive tracking numbers in the next few days" for weeks now.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Thu, 26 October 2017, 13:45:16
Here is my best attempt at photoshopping what mine will look like  ;D

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NhvSDIi.jpg)


So jealous you scored a blue one! :P
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 26 October 2017, 14:07:42
Here is my best attempt at photoshopping what mine will look like  ;D

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NhvSDIi.jpg)


Dang.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: alexfry on Thu, 26 October 2017, 15:07:23
Anyone get their tracking # yet?

Feel like we're probably a few weeks out yet, but I dunno, just my inkling.

Jeez man! So cynical.

You’re just saying that because they’ve blown past literally every time estimate they’ve ever given in this thread.

..... actually, you might be onto something.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 26 October 2017, 15:45:28
Not to be that guy but an actual, official announcement regarding the polycarbonate bottom kits is overdue by now - "tracking within x days probably" is really not optimal at this point, in my opinion, people get antsy and rightfully so.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 26 October 2017, 15:51:03
Not to be that guy but an actual, official announcement regarding the polycarbonate bottom kits is overdue by now - "tracking within x days probably" is really not optimal at this point, in my opinion, people get antsy and rightfully so.

I'll be fairly impressed if the polycarb kits ship by december - or even at all, frankly. It would be nice if Juahenza, after all the times it's been requested, would actually make regular announcements, e.g. on a weekly basis.

At any rate, I'm pretty antsy. Pretty nervous too.


My absolutely most incredibly optimistic warm and fuzzy guess is that all the parts have been delivered, and the "team" is soldering together the PCBs (unless that happened at the manufacturer?)

Ah okay looking at the PCB pictures it appears all the components are already soldered, so I have no idea what's going on.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 26 October 2017, 16:02:42
Not to be that guy but an actual, official announcement regarding the polycarbonate bottom kits is overdue by now - "tracking within x days probably" is really not optimal at this point, in my opinion, people get antsy and rightfully so.

I'll be fairly impressed if the polycarb kits ship by december - or even at all, frankly. It would be nice if Juahenza, after all the times it's been requested, would actually make regular announcements, e.g. on a weekly basis.

At any rate, I'm pretty antsy. Pretty nervous too.

I wouldn't go as far as saying "if ever" is a feasible option here, too many big (and reliable) names involved with the project for something that drastic to happen.

That said, I do agree that it is a little silly that Juahenza stated there's be weekly updates regarding the project like 2 months ago and after the initial one we've never gotten one again. I understand if that's not something he can commit to but if that's the case then don't tell the customers that it'll be done.

That said we have gotten a few sporadic updates from Yuktsi so that's something. I just feel like we need something concrete now.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 26 October 2017, 16:06:56

I just feel like we need something concrete now.

An understatement, to say the least. We'll get what we get though, I suppose. I want the keyboard more than I want the money.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Thu, 26 October 2017, 16:14:17
Echoing the guys above me. I'd also be amazed if anything shipped this year since we're already roughly 4 months behind schedule.. It would be nice to hear updates from juahenza although i very much appreciate yuktsi taking the time to pass along info every once in a while..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Thu, 26 October 2017, 17:29:32
Hopefully we'll get some sort of more solid estimate for shipping and when the bottoms will be done.  Has anyone even received a tracking number yet?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Thu, 26 October 2017, 23:06:02
I am so worried that how proceed my alubottom exent now...
promise date is october but it's almost november...
sure, it can be delayed. it's not big problem in this time.
but until now, no update news makes me so disappointed.. :(
 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Thu, 26 October 2017, 23:22:53
I am so worried that how proceed my alubottom exent now...
promise date is october but it's almost november...
sure, it can be delayed. it's not big problem in this time.
but until now, no update news makes me so disappointed.. :(
Hello Koo, the machining for the aluminum bottom should be finishing anytime this or next week. The next step is going to be anodizing, which isn't going to take too long. I will have an estimated time once the machining is done.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Fri, 27 October 2017, 00:31:21
Hi Juahenza, is there any update on the expected shipping date for the polycarbonate bottoms?


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Fri, 27 October 2017, 00:40:07
I am so worried that how proceed my alubottom exent now...
promise date is october but it's almost november...
sure, it can be delayed. it's not big problem in this time.
but until now, no update news makes me so disappointed.. :(
Hello Koo, the machining for the aluminum bottom should be finishing anytime this or next week. The next step is going to be anodizing, which isn't going to take too long. I will have an estimated time once the machining is done.

Oh~Thank you~! I expact it! ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Fri, 27 October 2017, 01:00:46
Hi Juahenza, is there any update on the expected shipping date for the polycarbonate bottoms?


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We gonna start working on it next week. Got procrasinated a little because we couldn't find a good place to sort and pack. But the owner of the cnc manu is kind enough to lend us a place at his factory office now. Just bought some tables yesterday and have most of the things sorted.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Fri, 27 October 2017, 02:58:39
Hi Juahenza, is there any update on the expected shipping date for the polycarbonate bottoms?


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We gonna start working on it next week. Got procrasinated a little because we couldn't find a good place to sort and pack. But the owner of the cnc manu is kind enough to lend us a place at his factory office now. Just bought some tables yesterday and have most of the things sorted.
Please post some photos while shipping :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 27 October 2017, 08:04:53
We gonna start working on it next week. Got procrasinated a little because we couldn't find a good place to sort and pack. But the owner of the cnc manu is kind enough to lend us a place at his factory office now. Just bought some tables yesterday and have most of the things sorted.

Wonderful. Thank you for giving us an update with substance, very much looking forward to hearing of further developments next week!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 27 October 2017, 08:19:18
Thanks for the update! I hope the alu bottom will ship before 2018!  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marutks on Fri, 27 October 2017, 08:33:33
I missed this GB!  Are you going to do R2?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 27 October 2017, 09:34:49
I missed this GB!  Are you going to do R2?

There will be extras available.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 31 October 2017, 17:36:59
update???
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Tue, 31 October 2017, 21:27:44
I’m curious as well, I got all hyped thinking I was getting it this month. Any updates?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 31 October 2017, 23:17:39
I’m curious as well, I got all hyped thinking I was getting it this month. Any updates?

Based on Juanhenzas last comment, Maybe they are packing, maybe they are not. No photos, no updates on polycarb, etc.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Fri, 03 November 2017, 02:18:56
 update something Plz,juahenja. (with picture possible..)
All of us are eager to updates, because excepting alu bottom and delivery. almost works are done. isn't it?
many people are sensitive about their delivery progress. (and also bottom picture.)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Fri, 03 November 2017, 02:34:36
I'm pretty sure packing and managing nearly 250 (the MOQ?) keyboards with their tops and bottoms, PCBs and all the other tiny stuff is extraordinarily hard and my hat is off to you guys, and also and the need of a big space to pack is a quite serious issue but taking just a few pictures and saying "It's all good" or "There are some issues" shouldn't require us to write here about it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 03 November 2017, 03:30:05
We just done assembling 50+ boards (uploading the bootloader, qc all the parts and putting them together). Jua will take pic and post later.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Fri, 03 November 2017, 07:39:44
Is it possible to let you guys assemble the keyboard for me? Will have to find someone else to do it for me since I don't have a soldering iron now. Will pay the extra cost.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Fri, 03 November 2017, 08:25:24
Is it possible to let you guys assemble the keyboard for me? Will have to find someone else to do it for me since I don't have a soldering iron now. Will pay the extra cost.

I think you'd have better luck finding someone local to do it for you, depending on where you live. You should ask on /r/mechmarket when your Exent arrives. I think Juahenza and Yuktsi have enough on there plates with shipping and stuff.  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Fri, 03 November 2017, 09:02:43
Is it possible to let you guys assemble the keyboard for me? Will have to find someone else to do it for me since I don't have a soldering iron now. Will pay the extra cost.
Where do you live?


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Fri, 03 November 2017, 09:52:56
Is it possible to let you guys assemble the keyboard for me? Will have to find someone else to do it for me since I don't have a soldering iron now. Will pay the extra cost.
Where do you live?

NYC area
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rempire on Fri, 03 November 2017, 10:48:38
Is it possible to let you guys assemble the keyboard for me? Will have to find someone else to do it for me since I don't have a soldering iron now. Will pay the extra cost.
Where do you live?

NYC area
I'm in NYC area, I can build it for you.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Fri, 03 November 2017, 10:51:31
I'm in Toronto, I would love to connect with someone to help me with this. I've got a couple Primecaps offshoots I could throw in. Plus love and extras.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 03 November 2017, 10:57:27
We just done assembling 50+ boards (uploading the bootloader, qc all the parts and putting them together). Jua will take pic and post later.


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How many left?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Fri, 03 November 2017, 13:39:53
We just done assembling 50+ boards (uploading the bootloader, qc all the parts and putting them together). Jua will take pic and post later.


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So if we got the premium with polycarb, are we getting them this month? Thanks for the updates!  :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 03 November 2017, 16:05:36
I'm in Toronto, I would love to connect with someone to help me with this. I've got a couple Primecaps offshoots I could throw in. Plus love and extras.

PM 27 (of mech27)

He'll help you connect with Canadians.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Fri, 03 November 2017, 16:17:25
I'm in Toronto, I would love to connect with someone to help me with this. I've got a couple Primecaps offshoots I could throw in. Plus love and extras.

PM 27 (of mech27)

He'll help you connect with Canadians.

Awe thank you, I'll be sure to do that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Fri, 03 November 2017, 17:41:20
We just done assembling 50+ boards (uploading the bootloader, qc all the parts and putting them together). Jua will take pic and post later.


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Any word on those pics?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Fri, 03 November 2017, 23:49:33
Is it possible to let you guys assemble the keyboard for me? Will have to find someone else to do it for me since I don't have a soldering iron now. Will pay the extra cost.
Where do you live?

oh cool, I will pm u once the board arrive

NYC area
I'm in NYC area, I can build it for you.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sat, 04 November 2017, 03:20:47
How's the status on the alu bottoms?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Sun, 05 November 2017, 21:18:15
We never did get those photos, any chance we're going to have a solid ship date in the near future?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: g_ken92 on Mon, 06 November 2017, 10:36:03
waiting patiently for the pics. judging by the recent updates, hopefully the keyboards are ready to be sent by the end of this month. will be travelling often after this :/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 06 November 2017, 11:57:44
Juahenza what is your malfunction? Everything going on lately points to a problem with the groupbuy. Is there one? Are you deliberately withholding information? Because it's getting hard to not see it that way, given that we haven't seen any pictures in months, we aren't provided with good or consistent updates, and you've missed every single ship date estimate.

IF there are problems, you need to tell us what they are. Spare no details.

IF there are no problems, you need to do one of two things. Either

A) Provide at minimum weekly updates, with pictures, absolutely without fail.

B) Hand communication over to someone who can do the above.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: leoparder on Mon, 06 November 2017, 12:04:49
I agree that communication should not be taken lightly when doing group buys like this. People paying for a product are right to ask for minimum transparency regarding their order.

All we want is for everything to work, so please, let us know how it is going.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 06 November 2017, 12:14:33
Not to rile up the pitchforks, I personally am perfectly confident things are getting assembled and sorted as Yuktsi said they were seeing as I trust him but for those that are seemingly more annoyed/worried than I am - taking a picture of a stack of keyboards and posting it here literally takes all of 2 minutes, if that, really should not be that hard to comply so hopefully we see something concrete within the next couple days.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 06 November 2017, 12:57:53
this has unfortunately been the trend for this GB. the exent is a beautiful piece of kit but i doubt i will be joining further GBs run by Juahenza.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Mon, 06 November 2017, 13:10:31
I wonder how RAMA, TGR, and Originative feel about having their names attached to this project.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Mon, 06 November 2017, 13:10:41
Here we are, with double the predicted production time having passed, and with very few updates and hardly any information on when they might actually ship.

Very disappointing, to say the least.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 06 November 2017, 13:12:10
Juahenza what is your malfunction? Everything going on lately points to a problem with the groupbuy. Is there one? Are you deliberately withholding information? Because it's getting hard to not see it that way, given that we haven't seen any pictures in months, we aren't provided with good or consistent updates, and you've missed every single ship date estimate.

IF there are problems, you need to tell us what they are. Spare no details.

IF there are no problems, you need to do one of two things. Either

A) Provide at minimum weekly updates, with pictures, absolutely without fail.

B) Hand communication over to someone who can do the above.

Not just Juahenza. This buy has other partners that are damaging their reputations, whether or not they realize it, by allowing this to continue to run as poorly as it is.

TARO, remember?

Yuktsi, Sherryton, RAMA, it's time to step up and get Juahenza back on track or replaced.

No one is saying "ship our boards tomorrow or else" but damn it give us a straight answer on what's going on and when shipping in starting.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 06 November 2017, 13:44:32
Juahenza what is your malfunction? Everything going on lately points to a problem with the groupbuy. Is there one? Are you deliberately withholding information? Because it's getting hard to not see it that way, given that we haven't seen any pictures in months, we aren't provided with good or consistent updates, and you've missed every single ship date estimate.

IF there are problems, you need to tell us what they are. Spare no details.

IF there are no problems, you need to do one of two things. Either

A) Provide at minimum weekly updates, with pictures, absolutely without fail.

B) Hand communication over to someone who can do the above.

Not just Juahenza. This buy has other partners that are damaging their reputations, whether or not they realize it, by allowing this to continue to run as poorly as it is.

TARO, remember?

Yuktsi, Sherryton, RAMA, it's time to step up and get Juahenza back on track or replaced.

No one is saying "ship our boards tomorrow or else" but damn it give us a straight answer on what's going on and when shipping in starting.

Yeah I agree. Those guys' names were plastered all over this GB when it was just starting, now where are they?

And, right, I'm not trying to make any unreasonable request. Just actual, tangible information. I feel completely in the dark right now.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Mon, 06 November 2017, 14:03:10
I can say that there is very little these designers can do once the product goes beyond their scope. RAMA as a designer of the board would have very little influence on production, and I promise they are waiting for their boards as much as us. There should be something more concrete though, I agree with that. I'll reach out to RAMA and see if he has any input.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 06 November 2017, 14:05:09
And I just opened a topic in the Originative subforum asking Sherry to try to get us a legit update.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Mon, 06 November 2017, 14:12:24
Ah we have finally reached that phase of the group buy again.

It is the same in nearly every group buy i ever joined. The information flow has very seldomly been perfect and close to nothing arrived on time. However I have always received what I payed for.

Calm down people, relax a bit!

Asking for updates is not a sin but there is no need to question the existence of the boards. Plenty pictures during anodising and of the pcb were posted.

Your boards will arrive...

If we are lucky maybe even before Christmas.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Mon, 06 November 2017, 14:18:18
Ah we have finally reached that phase of the group buy again.

It is the same in nearly every group buy i ever joined. The information flow has very seldomly been perfect and close to nothing arrived on time. However I have always received what I payed for.

Calm down people, relax a bit!

Asking for updates is not a sin but there is no need to question the existence of the boards. Plenty pictures during anodising and of the pcb were posted.

Your boards will arrive...

If we are lucky maybe even before Christmas.


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This is the truest truth. Let's all take a deep breath and stare at that empty space on our desk until the time is ripe.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Mon, 06 November 2017, 14:45:56
Simmer down guys. I do agree we haven’t been provided with enough updates, and maybe someone’s a little tuckered out, but we’re almost there. I guess he’s busy making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's. I wish we could get it before December.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 06 November 2017, 14:54:21
Ah we have finally reached that phase of the group buy again.

It is the same in nearly every group buy i ever joined. The information flow has very seldomly been perfect and close to nothing arrived on time. However I have always received what I payed for.

Calm down people, relax a bit!

Asking for updates is not a sin but there is no need to question the existence of the boards. Plenty pictures during anodising and of the pcb were posted.

Your boards will arrive...

If we are lucky maybe even before Christmas.


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That's great and all, but maybe give realistic estimates. "June," then "October," and now "maybe before Christmas" are slaps in the face to us.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Mon, 06 November 2017, 15:04:37
Simmer down guys. I do agree we haven’t been provided with enough updates, and maybe someone’s a little tuckered out, but we’re almost there. I guess he’s busy making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's. I wish we could get it before December.

I am constantly amazed by the willingness of some GB participants to bend over and take it in the ass, repeatedly, when a particular buy is months behind schedule and the communication from its organizers is generously described as "piss poor".  This kind of bull**** is unfortunately rampant in our community and we absolutely MUST expect better from our group buys or it's only going to get worse.  STOP BEING A WELCOME MAT.  You do not speak for me, and frankly I am ****ing fed up.

This GB was sold as a "12-16 weeks" production that started at the end of February.  That's 3-4 months.  We're now into November (month #9) and have yet to receive even a firm ship date, let alone actual tracking numbers.  This is not acceptable.  No one is overreacting -- the outcome that we're facing now is bordering on fraud.  We've gone from "a few delays are to be expected" to "holy ****, what the **** happened here?" and the time to just be patient is long past.  You can take that advice and shove it.

No more empty promises.  Give us the god damn product that we paid for.


Edit: I really screwed up the math there.  Fixed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 06 November 2017, 15:18:17
Simmer down guys. I do agree we haven’t been provided with enough updates, and maybe someone’s a little tuckered out, but we’re almost there. I guess he’s busy making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's. I wish we could get it before December.

I am constantly amazed by the willingness of some GB participants to bend over and take it in the ass, repeatedly, when a particular buy is months behind schedule and the communication from its organizers is generously described as "piss poor".  This kind of bull**** is unfortunately rampant in our community and we absolutely MUST expect better from our group buys or it's only going to get worse.  STOP BEING A WELCOME MAT.  You do not speak for me, and frankly I am ****ing fed up.

This GB was sold as a "12-16 weeks" production that started at the end of February.  That's 4-5 months.  We're now into November (month #9) and have yet to receive even a firm ship date, let alone actual tracking numbers.  This is not acceptable.  No one is overreacting -- the outcome that we're facing now is bordering on fraud.  We've gone from "a few delays are to be expected" to "holy ****, what the **** happened here?" and the time to just be patient is long past.  You can take that advice and shove it.

No more empty promises.  Give us the god damn product that we paid for.

I'm very patient for the better part and I understand delays are to be expected but this mostly echoes my sentiment regarding these situations - IF delays are to be had, please be upfront and straightforward about it. Sporadic updates as we've been having here (if at all) are unacceptable if you are to ensure customer satisfaction.

You might not be able to ensure delivery upon the date you promised at the start but what you ARE able to do and should ALWAYS do is keep the customer in the know. It blows my mind that people take up running group buys and don't know this to begin with - there have been TONS of buys I've watched unfold where the person in charge is behind on schedule and hates their life because they can't do right by their customer (or themselves) and as such they go into radio silence or pretend they are constantly busy as if that's believable at all. EVERYONE has 5 minutes to type out what the situation is looking like at the current time and not doing so is not only going to rile up the customers it's also going to make them doubt the fact you even plan on delivering at all (as can be seen here).

Updates OF ANY SORT are CRUCIAL. Again, it's so surprising to me that tons of people seem to run into this issue within the community, even experienced people who should know by now (though mostly inexperienced community members who's intentions are not ill). Even if your update is bad news. Even if your update is no update. Type something.

It's basic. Please stop saying "calm down lol only been 3 months since last update and 5 months since they were meant to ship out".
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 06 November 2017, 15:32:40
Simmer down guys. I do agree we haven’t been provided with enough updates, and maybe someone’s a little tuckered out, but we’re almost there. I guess he’s busy making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's. I wish we could get it before December.

I am constantly amazed by the willingness of some GB participants to bend over and take it in the ass, repeatedly, when a particular buy is months behind schedule and the communication from its organizers is generously described as "piss poor".  This kind of bull**** is unfortunately rampant in our community and we absolutely MUST expect better from our group buys or it's only going to get worse.  STOP BEING A WELCOME MAT.  You do not speak for me, and frankly I am ****ing fed up.

This GB was sold as a "12-16 weeks" production that started at the end of February.  That's 3-4 months.  We're now into November (month #9) and have yet to receive even a firm ship date, let alone actual tracking numbers.  This is not acceptable.  No one is overreacting -- the outcome that we're facing now is bordering on fraud.  We've gone from "a few delays are to be expected" to "holy ****, what the **** happened here?" and the time to just be patient is long past.  You can take that advice and shove it.

No more empty promises.  Give us the god damn product that we paid for.


Edit: I really screwed up the math there.  Fixed.

 
Well I gotta say, this is my last group buy. I ain't touching this "maybe you'll get a product, but definitely not before the production period has passed twice over" crap anymore. Not till this community gets its collective **** together.


Pretty much in the same boat as Vigrith and Data about this.


Juahenza, you're in for a ****storm of your own making when you finally find your way back to the forum
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Mon, 06 November 2017, 15:45:05
What's particularly frustrating is that the people running this group buy are on GH every day. Active last night, the night before, etc. They're here, they're just avoiding answering questions. I've participated in 4 group buys in the last year, 3 of them have been utter disasters. I think I too am going to be done with this for the foreseeable future. Too many people running buys without any ability to actually do what they've promised.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:09:22
I joined this groupbuy 1/2 month ago by buying the slot of someone. I really thought it would deliver soon. For sure I don’t like this « no update » status, even more that I am on the alu bottom team! I have experienced this lack of communication before on a kickstarter project for pen (apollo pen), and the project failed miserably but they still provided little or no update and lied. I’ve lost 250 bucks on this, that is life. As this would be my first gb ever for a keyboard (starting this hobby!) I hope it will not finish like this (I’m sure it will not!

Please provide us some update, and as everyone said before, be honest!  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:38:53
well, we atleast already saw photos of production, so we know they exist somewhere. which is more than I can say about my last group buy....
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:43:08
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.

I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.

I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.



Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:45:29
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7TKwJgF0v0JX5gys/giphy.gif)

I remember my first group buy  ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:54:21
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.

I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.

I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.



Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.

What are you talking about there's no indication? There's huge indicators suggesting this group buy is not going well. Like, for example, no pictures of the polycarbonate bottoms. I have no reason to believe that those actually exist, or that Juahenza isn't hiding the fact that they don't.

The reason to believe that the GB will fail is because we've been given no reason to believe it won't. Or is this just how bad all of you are at running GB's? I think it's a bit of both.

And no update to provide? What the **** are you talking about? What about the polycarb? What about the aluminum? How many keyboards are packed? When will they be shipped out?

How unbelievably stupid are you to think there is no update to provide?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:57:19
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.

I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.

I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.



Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.

Weirdly enough just a couple posts back there were supposed to be pictures that were going to be sent, but i don't see them anywhere. "There is likely no update to provide." huh. Status on the Alu bottoms being anodized isn't being updated too, as jua's post last Oct 27 wasn't updated yet and he said that it was supposed to be finished on that week, or the week after. Delays happen, yes, but when i was expecting this board to ship a couple months ago, i can't blame anyone else from being antsy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:57:58
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.

I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.

I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.



Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.

What are you talking about there's no indication? There's huge indicators suggesting this group buy is not going well. Like, for example, no pictures of the polycarbonate bottoms. I have no reason to believe that those actually exist, or that Juahenza isn't hiding the fact that they don't.

The reason to believe that the GB will fail is because we've been given no reason to believe it won't. Or is this just how bad all of you are at running GB's? I think it's a bit of both.


So you think Juanhenza just really wants a collection of top cases and endless PayPal disputes? I mean I guess that could be a thing he’s into.

I get it, you think you are super important and you want an update, but what you need to remember is whether or not you have an update doesn’t change the status at all. It just makes you more comfortable with it.

I fully agree GB runners could do better about communication. But participants could also stop acting like Veruca Salt.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171106/2397e2f83be4aea80a2a03e04c8b400a.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:58:16
Simmer down guys. I do agree we haven’t been provided with enough updates, and maybe someone’s a little tuckered out, but we’re almost there. I guess he’s busy making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's. I wish we could get it before December.

I am constantly amazed by the willingness of some GB participants to bend over and take it in the ass, repeatedly, when a particular buy is months behind schedule and the communication from its organizers is generously described as "piss poor".  This kind of bull**** is unfortunately rampant in our community and we absolutely MUST expect better from our group buys or it's only going to get worse.  STOP BEING A WELCOME MAT.  You do not speak for me, and frankly I am ****ing fed up.

This GB was sold as a "12-16 weeks" production that started at the end of February.  That's 3-4 months.  We're now into November (month #9) and have yet to receive even a firm ship date, let alone actual tracking numbers.  This is not acceptable.  No one is overreacting -- the outcome that we're facing now is bordering on fraud.  We've gone from "a few delays are to be expected" to "holy ****, what the **** happened here?" and the time to just be patient is long past.  You can take that advice and shove it.

No more empty promises.  Give us the god damn product that we paid for.


Edit: I really screwed up the math there.  Fixed.

Thank you for posting this! This expresses my main frustrations with the community perfectly. 6 out of 8 GB's I joined this year missed their original ship date by double or more. I'm still waiting on 4 boards I payed for in spring 2017. Its extremely rare to see negative comments about the delays. I'm starting to think its Stockholm syndrome since the GB organizers already have our money so we need to keep them happy or something?

I'm not worried about the GB failing its just frustrating getting told it's going to ship "soon" or constantly having the date pushed back multiple times for months. I do respect the organizers, I'm sure this isn't their full time job and that this probably takes up a lot of their free time but it's also natural for us to get annoyed by the situation we are in..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Mon, 06 November 2017, 17:58:28
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.

I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.

I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.



Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.

What are you talking about there's no indication? There's huge indicators suggesting this group buy is not going well. Like, for example, no pictures of the polycarbonate bottoms. I have no reason to believe that those actually exist, or that Juahenza isn't hiding the fact that they don't.

The reason to believe that the GB will fail is because we've been given no reason to believe it won't. Or is this just how bad all of you are at running GB's? I think it's a bit of both.

delays in group buys are inevitable and almost guaranteed, they not "huge indicators suggesting this group buy is not going well"

The actual number of group buys on geekhack where the product or refunds have not been delivered is tiny.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Mon, 06 November 2017, 18:01:00
What's particularly frustrating is that the people running this group buy are on GH every day. Active last night, the night before, etc. They're here, they're just avoiding answering questions. I've participated in 4 group buys in the last year, 3 of them have been utter disasters. I think I too am going to be done with this for the foreseeable future. Too many people running buys without any ability to actually do what they've promised.

I'm sick of this too buddy. I think I'm done joining GB's for a while now as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 06 November 2017, 18:02:05
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.

I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.

I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.



Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.

What are you talking about there's no indication? There's huge indicators suggesting this group buy is not going well. Like, for example, no pictures of the polycarbonate bottoms. I have no reason to believe that those actually exist, or that Juahenza isn't hiding the fact that they don't.

The reason to believe that the GB will fail is because we've been given no reason to believe it won't. Or is this just how bad all of you are at running GB's? I think it's a bit of both.


So you think Juanhenza just really wants a collection of top cases and endless PayPal disputes? I mean I guess that could be a thing he’s into.

I get it, you think you are super important and you want an update, but what you need to remember is whether or not you have an update doesn’t change the status at all. It just makes you more comfortable with it.

I fully agree GB runners could do better about communication. But participants could also stop acting like Veruca Salt.

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You are dumb well beyond words. The goddamn nerve on you.

I have patiently waited for over 9 ****ing months for this keyboard. Did I say anything when it blew by the June deadline? No. I have, along with many others, have sat quietly by waiting for the keyboard to be produced.

But we are now blowing right by the October deadline, and at this point it looks more like the production cycle is going to continue indefinitely.

On top of that, we are given no information about what's going on.

This, as others have said, has gone way past "delays happen," and, yes, into "I want it now!"

This group buy needs to get its ass in ****ing gear or none of us will ever see this keyboard and, yes, Juahenza will be buried in paypal disputes.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 06 November 2017, 18:05:27
Simmer down guys. I do agree we haven’t been provided with enough updates, and maybe someone’s a little tuckered out, but we’re almost there. I guess he’s busy making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's. I wish we could get it before December.

I am constantly amazed by the willingness of some GB participants to bend over and take it in the ass, repeatedly, when a particular buy is months behind schedule and the communication from its organizers is generously described as "piss poor".  This kind of bull**** is unfortunately rampant in our community and we absolutely MUST expect better from our group buys or it's only going to get worse.  STOP BEING A WELCOME MAT.  You do not speak for me, and frankly I am ****ing fed up.

This GB was sold as a "12-16 weeks" production that started at the end of February.  That's 3-4 months.  We're now into November (month #9) and have yet to receive even a firm ship date, let alone actual tracking numbers.  This is not acceptable.  No one is overreacting -- the outcome that we're facing now is bordering on fraud.  We've gone from "a few delays are to be expected" to "holy ****, what the **** happened here?" and the time to just be patient is long past.  You can take that advice and shove it.

No more empty promises.  Give us the god damn product that we paid for.


Edit: I really screwed up the math there.  Fixed.

 I'm starting to think its Stockholm syndrome since the GB organizers already have our money so we need to keep them happy or something?



I worry about this too, that we are supposed to keep the GB runners happy because they have our money. It's one of the major reasons I will never join another group buy again for anything but keycaps. You do not have to worry about that **** with a real business.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 06 November 2017, 18:05:37
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.

I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.

I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.

Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.

I remember my first group buy  ;)

No offence homies but being condescending and patronising isn't helping anybody.

There are updates to provide, and as said in my previous post, if there is nothing to report then STATE that there is nothing to report - don't leave people hanging for no reason when you can literally take up 1 minute of your time to write that out on here. I'm not worried, again, as said, but I understand the people that are and I also share the frustration.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Mon, 06 November 2017, 18:09:14
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.

I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.

I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.



Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.

What are you talking about there's no indication? There's huge indicators suggesting this group buy is not going well. Like, for example, no pictures of the polycarbonate bottoms. I have no reason to believe that those actually exist, or that Juahenza isn't hiding the fact that they don't.

The reason to believe that the GB will fail is because we've been given no reason to believe it won't. Or is this just how bad all of you are at running GB's? I think it's a bit of both.


So you think Juanhenza just really wants a collection of top cases and endless PayPal disputes? I mean I guess that could be a thing he’s into.

I get it, you think you are super important and you want an update, but what you need to remember is whether or not you have an update doesn’t change the status at all. It just makes you more comfortable with it.

I fully agree GB runners could do better about communication. But participants could also stop acting like Veruca Salt.

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You are dumb well beyond words. The goddamn nerve on you.

I have patiently waited for over 9 ****ing months for this keyboard. Did I say anything when it blew by the June deadline? No. I have, along with many others, have sat quietly by waiting for the keyboard to be produced.

But we are now blowing right by the October deadline, and at this point it looks more like the production cycle is going to continue indefinitely.

On top of that, we are given no information about what's going on.

This, as others have said, has gone way past "delays happen," and, yes, into "I want it now!"

This group buy needs to get its ass in ****ing gear or none of us will ever see this keyboard and, yes, Juahenza will be buried in paypal disputes.

I think what most people are missing that want others to "calm down" is that it takes 2 seconds to say anything about whats going on, even if its nothing.  The lack of updates just shows how little effort they want to put into it.  Id rather hear bad news then nothing, and with October already over it seems like we still have longer then they want to say left to wait.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 06 November 2017, 18:30:14
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.

I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.

I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.



Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.

What are you talking about there's no indication? There's huge indicators suggesting this group buy is not going well. Like, for example, no pictures of the polycarbonate bottoms. I have no reason to believe that those actually exist, or that Juahenza isn't hiding the fact that they don't.

The reason to believe that the GB will fail is because we've been given no reason to believe it won't. Or is this just how bad all of you are at running GB's? I think it's a bit of both.


So you think Juanhenza just really wants a collection of top cases and endless PayPal disputes? I mean I guess that could be a thing he’s into.

I get it, you think you are super important and you want an update, but what you need to remember is whether or not you have an update doesn’t change the status at all. It just makes you more comfortable with it.

I fully agree GB runners could do better about communication. But participants could also stop acting like Veruca Salt.

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You are dumb well beyond words. The goddamn nerve on you.

I have patiently waited for over 9 ****ing months for this keyboard. Did I say anything when it blew by the June deadline? No. I have, along with many others, have sat quietly by waiting for the keyboard to be produced.

But we are now blowing right by the October deadline, and at this point it looks more like the production cycle is going to continue indefinitely.

On top of that, we are given no information about what's going on.

This, as others have said, has gone way past "delays happen," and, yes, into "I want it now!"

This group buy needs to get its ass in ****ing gear or none of us will ever see this keyboard and, yes, Juahenza will be buried in paypal disputes.

I think what most people are missing that want others to "calm down" is that it takes 2 seconds to say anything about whats going on, even if its nothing.  The lack of updates just shows how little effort they want to put into it.  Id rather hear bad news then nothing, and with October already over it seems like we still have longer then they want to say left to wait.

Unless I’m missing something the last update was 10 days ago and gave a 1-2 week time for the next update. The update after that literally said he would have an update when manufacturing was completed and didn’t have a timeline until then. Based on this; the available evidence, it seems to me like manufacturing is not yet done and so thus the promised update is not yet available. A lack of an update IS NOT EVIDENCE. Especially not this early. At worst depending on how you interpret “this week or next”on a Friday he is 3 days late for an update. At best he has 4 more days in his own update timeframe.

This is why I’m saying people are being unreasonable.

It seems to me this ALWAYS happens when GB run with no limits. Or way more often than not. I think the real issue is the GB runners are always overly optimistic. How many GB finish in 2-3 months?

If I ran a GB and thought it would be done next June, I’d probably list the ship time as like August or September. You can’t just plan for no issues or delays.

Either way though, my main point is still Delay != Failure.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with being frustrated by a delay. My issue is people relating delays and GB failure together as one has nothing to do with the other.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:00:07
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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Mon, 06 November 2017, 20:59:20
This delay isn't even that bad compared to other group buys like for 7bit's Round 6 or for Ellipse's Model Fs. People have a right to complain, but personally I'm not at all worried. These delays are super common, and people that come into these buys expecting them to be timely should modify their expectations. These are community group buys, not sales from Razer or another established business.

That said, the group buy runners should also communicate more clearly and more often if they don't want people to complain. I realize that just because I feel comfortable with this group buy doesn't mean that others do. Ellipse is a good example of a group buy organizer that is running super behind schedule (over a year?), but that communicates clearly and often enough that people understand the reasons behind the delays and very few people are uncomfortable with the slow downs.

And all that said, I'd like to reiterate that "this is fine". We've seen enough of the finished components that there is very little possibility that the group buy organizers would bail at this point in the process. If they planned to do that, then they could have bailed much earlier without producing the components we've already seen.

If people do feel the need to complain or to remind the group buy organizers to provide more timely updates, it would likely be more helpful to complain in a calm and constructive manner.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:00:44
This delay isn't even that bad compared to other group buys like for 7bit's Round 6 or for Ellipse's Model Fs.

Those aren't really fair comparisons, but that's besides the point.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:04:42
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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:08:48
We are half way packing at the moment. Sorry for the late update.
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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:15:03
We are half way packing at the moment. Sorry for the late update.
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@PancakeMSTR was right. HUGE Indicators... lol
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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:17:14
We are half way packing at the moment. Sorry for the late update.
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@PancakeMSTR was right. HUGE Indicators... lol

the board is huge, that's for sure
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:25:54
Got any pics of a pink one? I thought I’d want black but I think I may have to try for a pink extra. Just to have something different.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:29:53
Got any pics of a pink one? I thought I’d want black but I think I may have to try for a pink extra. Just to have something different.

Right there with you brotherman, last I heard there were no pink extras unfortunately - I must agree, the pink looks AMAZING (if the picture posted a month or two ago is accurate, which it should be). Don't regret getting mine in black but definitely regret not putting in a 2nd order for a pink one. Render didn't look too promising and I didn't believe so that much is on me. Feels bad.

As for the pictures posted

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: stand.geek on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:43:28
We are half way packing at the moment. Sorry for the late update.
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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 06 November 2017, 21:49:56
We are half way packing at the moment. Sorry for the late update.
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Eat ****

Juahenza - Thank for the update. Pleased to see progress. Please be consistent with future updates.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Mon, 06 November 2017, 22:30:11
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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
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That's better. That's much better.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 06 November 2017, 23:11:25
Frosted acrylic looks much more transparent than the original engineering sample, any chance this is a one-off? Or are they all as transparent as this most recent photot.. I was hoping for something a little more opaque. Would be happy to wait longer...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 07 November 2017, 00:15:01
Frosted acrylic looks much more transparent than the original engineering sample, any chance this is a one-off? Or are they all as transparent as this most recent photot.. I was hoping for something a little more opaque. Would be happy to wait longer...

Seems highly unlikely to me.

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Damn... I really want pink. I really hope there are extras, I know he said no extras of purple, but that was ordered on accident right? I guess worst case I'm gonna have to fight someone for one on MM.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 07 November 2017, 00:27:53
Would be happy to wait longer...

I wouldn't.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 07 November 2017, 00:41:21
Would be happy to wait longer...

I wouldn't.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 07 November 2017, 00:50:17
Seems highly unlikely to me.

Yeah, probably completely unlikely. I can just take sandpaper to the inside of it once I get it to make it a little more 'frosted'
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 07 November 2017, 02:00:47
Can we have some information and pictures on the alu bottom also? A vague approximation of the expected delay ?

Thanks :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 07 November 2017, 04:10:50
Can we have some information and pictures on the alu bottom also? A vague approximation of the expected delay ?

Thanks :D

Aren't the alu bottoms still in production? Probably aren't any pictures. Not until he has them in hand right?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 07 November 2017, 06:54:21
You guys are WAY too paranoid. There is likely no update to provide.

I don’t really see any possibility of the GB failing. It’s just delays and delays happen.

I understand the fear of a GB failing. I got screwed on Miami Nights. I get it. But unless you have any indication that the GB might fail, and not just assumption and speculation, I think it’s wrong to suggest otherwise.



Waiting sucks, but there is a massive GB disclaimer for a reason.

You're delusional.  Read the thread.  NINE months isn't "just delays tee-hee", it's a massive ****-up and there's no assumption or speculation happening here.  The writing is very much on the wall. 

Screw your disclaimer.  This is way outside any reasonable expectation of delays.  The attitude of casual indifference you're showing is the reason this **** keeps happening.  FFS, stop it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 07 November 2017, 07:12:53
This delay isn't even that bad compared to other group buys like for 7bit's Round 6 or for Ellipse's Model Fs. People have a right to complain, but personally I'm not at all worried. These delays are super common, and people that come into these buys expecting them to be timely should modify their expectations. These are community group buys, not sales from Razer or another established business.
If delays of double or more beyond the expected delivery date are "super common" then we have a major ****ing problem in our community.  Why are YOU okay with this?

Just because the GB is setup by some "community member" (I use the term loosely - frequently they are from some other community and have only signed up here to generate interest) doesn't make it OK for them to take our money and then maybe, possibly, eventually deliver something that resembles what we paid for.  You're out of your mind.  In no other hobby would that be considered acceptable.

It's no surprise so much keyboard business has shifted to companies like Massdrop.  People ***** about the "community feeling" disappearing from our hobby... but it's because the community is full of spineless flakes and fraudsters!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 07 November 2017, 07:55:11
Damn... I really want pink. I really hope there are extras, I know he said no extras of purple, but that was ordered on accident right? I guess worst case I'm gonna have to fight someone for one on MM.

I really don't think there will be - shame, honestly, at this point I think I'd give up my black one for the pink (getting Time in black anyway). Best of luck to us both, though!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Tue, 07 November 2017, 08:01:44
This delay isn't even that bad compared to other group buys like for 7bit's Round 6 or for Ellipse's Model Fs. People have a right to complain, but personally I'm not at all worried. These delays are super common, and people that come into these buys expecting them to be timely should modify their expectations. These are community group buys, not sales from Razer or another established business.
If delays of double or more beyond the expected delivery date are "super common" then we have a major ****ing problem in our community.  Why are YOU okay with this?

Just because the GB is setup by some "community member" (I use the term loosely - frequently they are from some other community and have only signed up here to generate interest) doesn't make it OK for them to take our money and then maybe, possibly, eventually deliver something that resembles what we paid for.  You're out of your mind.  In no other hobby would that be considered acceptable.

It's no surprise so much keyboard business has shifted to companies like Massdrop.  People ***** about the "community feeling" disappearing from our hobby... but it's because the community is full of spineless flakes and fraudsters!

I don’t really get where you are going... I’ve had really bad delays on Massdrop as well.

Maybe you should try running a group buy.

The mech community can’t really be compared to any other communities either. Show me one, where every part from the product is custom machined. Even in real life every custom project has delays. Try building a house or get software developed. Those projects are really often behind schedule as well!

We received a lot of pictures throughout the whole group buy to know it’s not scam. So please calm down.

And people like PancakeMSTR who are rude, overly demanding and who insult people should have no place in this community.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 07 November 2017, 08:04:45
If delays of double or more beyond the expected delivery date are "super common" then we have a major ****ing problem in our community.  Why are YOU okay with this?

Just because the GB is setup by some "community member" (I use the term loosely - frequently they are from some other community and have only signed up here to generate interest) doesn't make it OK for them to take our money and then maybe, possibly, eventually deliver something that resembles what we paid for.  You're out of your mind.  In no other hobby would that be considered acceptable.

It's no surprise so much keyboard business has shifted to companies like Massdrop.  People ***** about the "community feeling" disappearing from our hobby... but it's because the community is full of spineless flakes and fraudsters!

This is super common in the playing card collecting community which has a similar indie production community to mechanical keyboards, and through both Kickstarter and IndieGoGo, platforms built around this type of support funded project creation.  I'm closing in on nearly 200 crowd funding projects supported, including GBs through forums like this, and crowd funding platforms like Kickstarter, and this is not only commonplace but it is also generally expected by experienced backers. While it's not uncommon for reactions like you are having, it tends to be the minority, and frequently comes from people with limited crowd funding experience (not assuming that is you) who don't realize extreme delays aren't uncommon and that the majority of supporters don't see it as a problem so much as an understandable hiccup and frequently lean more towards a "as long as it takes to get it right" mentality.

I, personally, am OK with this because I am waiting on something completely and totally superfluous, I already have keyboards, plural, so it doesn't matter if another keyboard takes longer to show up. I would argue this is the case for everyone here since we all clearly have one text input method or another, and I would be completely shocked if no one here had at least one keyboard already, which is a little hardcore if they are going from only typing on a cell phone straight to an Exent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 07 November 2017, 08:14:31
If delays of double or more beyond the expected delivery date are "super common" then we have a major ****ing problem in our community.  Why are YOU okay with this?

Just because the GB is setup by some "community member" (I use the term loosely - frequently they are from some other community and have only signed up here to generate interest) doesn't make it OK for them to take our money and then maybe, possibly, eventually deliver something that resembles what we paid for.  You're out of your mind.  In no other hobby would that be considered acceptable.

It's no surprise so much keyboard business has shifted to companies like Massdrop.  People ***** about the "community feeling" disappearing from our hobby... but it's because the community is full of spineless flakes and fraudsters!

This is super common in the playing card collecting community which has a similar indie production community to mechanical keyboards, and through both Kickstarter and IndieGoGo, platforms built around this type of support funded project creation.  I'm closing in on nearly 200 crowd funding projects supported, including GBs through forums like this, and crowd funding platforms like Kickstarter, and this is not only commonplace but it is also generally expected by experienced backers. While it's not uncommon for reactions like you are having, it tends to be the minority, and frequently comes from people with limited crowd funding experience (not assuming that is you) who don't realize extreme delays aren't uncommon and that the majority of supporters don't see it as a problem so much as an understandable hiccup and frequently lean more towards a "as long as it takes to get it right" mentality.

I, personally, am OK with this because I am waiting on something completely and totally superfluous, I already have keyboards, plural, so it doesn't matter if another keyboard takes longer to show up. I would argue this is the case for everyone here since we all clearly have one text input method or another, and I would be completely shocked if no one here had at least one keyboard already, which is a little hardcore if they are going from only typing on a cell phone straight to an Exent.

Clearly agree with you, is it super unlikely that someone here really "need" the exent as a primary keyboard! Nevertheless, I understand the reaction of some people here (I do not caution getting rude!), but as I told I faced a "failed" kickstarter project which provide this kind of not so good communication, even with pictures and so on for about 2 years, then they stopped taking pic and responding.. They add the very bad taste to send a message one month ago telling "we will finish with our own money".. No they will not, I lost almost 300 bucks on this, but this is life of GB... I really think (and HOPE !) this will finish and that we will get our amazing keebs soon enough and everything will be okay :) ! But for sure, communication is good and it not that time consuming. I think the main point of a lot of people here is to have update on regular basis even if it is to tell bad news, delay and so on. I really agree with you that this delay, for this kind of product is "okay" at the end, but for sure communication was not the best here.

All the storm of comment had made them post some pictures! So I would say they read this post and care, but It would be nice to have some words for them also with some expected delay, avancing for process and packing...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 07 November 2017, 08:58:04
I don’t really get where you are going... I’ve had really bad delays on Massdrop as well.

Maybe you should try running a group buy.

The mech community can’t really be compared to any other communities either. Show me one, where every part from the product is custom machined. Even in real life every custom project has delays. Try building a house or get software developed. Those projects are really often behind schedule as well!

We received a lot of pictures throughout the whole group buy to know it’s not scam. So please calm down.

And people like PancakeMSTR who are rude, overly demanding and who insult people should have no place in this community.

Firstly I agree with you for the better part. Delays happen, I think not expecting there to be any is naive but let's not go as far as say it should be acceptable - one should always strive to meet deadlines when providing goods or services. No matter what. If they have no power over how manufacture goes, then overshoot your initial estimate rather than undershooting it. People will be happier in the end and that is what matters.

That said, this is no longer my fight - my ONLY qualm here was with the lack of updates leading up to this point. I still think there is no excuse to remain radio silent when you have people waiting for you, not here, not anywhere else (and it is VERY common here on GH). Even if your update is "nothing to report, I'll be back next week" you should still post that. Maybe that's a cultural difference, where I live that's the norm.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Rogerwyf on Tue, 07 November 2017, 09:35:55
If anyone does not want to wait anymore and is willing to sell his/her spot with a black one, please let me know, thanks! :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 07 November 2017, 09:40:44
If delays of double or more beyond the expected delivery date are "super common" then we have a major ****ing problem in our community.  Why are YOU okay with this?

Just because the GB is setup by some "community member" (I use the term loosely - frequently they are from some other community and have only signed up here to generate interest) doesn't make it OK for them to take our money and then maybe, possibly, eventually deliver something that resembles what we paid for.  You're out of your mind.  In no other hobby would that be considered acceptable.

It's no surprise so much keyboard business has shifted to companies like Massdrop.  People ***** about the "community feeling" disappearing from our hobby... but it's because the community is full of spineless flakes and fraudsters!

This is super common in the playing card collecting community which has a similar indie production community to mechanical keyboards, and through both Kickstarter and IndieGoGo, platforms built around this type of support funded project creation.  I'm closing in on nearly 200 crowd funding projects supported, including GBs through forums like this, and crowd funding platforms like Kickstarter, and this is not only commonplace but it is also generally expected by experienced backers. While it's not uncommon for reactions like you are having, it tends to be the minority, and frequently comes from people with limited crowd funding experience (not assuming that is you) who don't realize extreme delays aren't uncommon and that the majority of supporters don't see it as a problem so much as an understandable hiccup and frequently lean more towards a "as long as it takes to get it right" mentality.

I, personally, am OK with this because I am waiting on something completely and totally superfluous, I already have keyboards, plural, so it doesn't matter if another keyboard takes longer to show up. I would argue this is the case for everyone here since we all clearly have one text input method or another, and I would be completely shocked if no one here had at least one keyboard already, which is a little hardcore if they are going from only typing on a cell phone straight to an Exent.

Clearly agree with you, is it super unlikely that someone here really "need" the exent as a primary keyboard! Nevertheless, I understand the reaction of some people here (I do not caution getting rude!), but as I told I faced a "failed" kickstarter project which provide this kind of not so good communication, even with pictures and so on for about 2 years, then they stopped taking pic and responding.. They add the very bad taste to send a message one month ago telling "we will finish with our own money".. No they will not, I lost almost 300 bucks on this, but this is life of GB... I really think (and HOPE !) this will finish and that we will get our amazing keebs soon enough and everything will be okay :) ! But for sure, communication is good and it not that time consuming. I think the main point of a lot of people here is to have update on regular basis even if it is to tell bad news, delay and so on. I really agree with you that this delay, for this kind of product is "okay" at the end, but for sure communication was not the best here.

All the storm of comment had made them post some pictures! So I would say they read this post and care, but It would be nice to have some words for them also with some expected delay, avancing for process and packing...

I think you're conflating an articulated need with a degree of subjective acceptance related to delays.  This is a logical fallacy.

I may not need a particular product.  But if I buy it, I have a reasonable expectation as a consumer that it will be delivered at some time roughly around the stated delivery window, and that the selling party will keep me informed of any and all developments.  This is basic commerce and customer service stuff.  It's not rocket science.

"**** happens", as they say, and some delays are expected.  I thought I was clear on this, so it's incredibly frustrating that I have to keep repeating the point.  No one said all delays were unacceptable.  This isn't my first rodeo.  The delays in this GB are extraordinary and when combined with wholly inadequate communication they make a trainwreck.  The team has failed to deliver the product in a reasonable time (commerce) and failed to explain why (customer service).  It's the double failure that's not acceptable.

All I'm asking is for sellers to hold up their end of the bargain and for "buyers" to stop giving them a limp-wristed pass every time they **** up.  Let's set some standards and hold people accountable to them.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Tue, 07 November 2017, 10:20:29
Hi guys,

I’ve been helping Aconic and TGR prep the boards for shipping. I never intended to post here, but I feel the degree of escalation in this thread over the past two days has been unwarranted and unjustified. Allow me to explain.

Firstly, do remember that we are working out of someone else’s premises, as explained by Jua in this post. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2512857#msg2512857)

Secondly, when Yuktsi posted this update (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2516872#msg2516872) last Friday, it was already 5:30pm over here. We’d just left the facility after a long day of sorting and packing; each of us assumed the other had taken pictures when in fact nobody did. By the time we realized this, it was too late to go back for pictures as the owner had already locked up for the weekend. This is not an excuse, it was an honest mistake on our part and I'm just pointing out what happened.

We finally got around to taking some pics late yesterday (Monday 6 Nov) and posting them today (Tuesday 7 Nov), I hope this is sufficient proof that progress is being made and people can feel more at ease.

Moving on. I’ll try to steer this thread back on track by addressing some questions/statements from you guys (*DISCLAIMER*: I could be mistaken, Jua or Yuktsi please do step in and correct me).

...last I heard there were no pink extras unfortunately

You’re right.

Frosted acrylic looks much more transparent than the original engineering sample, any chance this is a one-off? Or are they all as transparent as this most recent photo.. I was hoping for something a little more opaque.

...I can just take sandpaper to the inside of it once I get it to make it a little more 'frosted'

The pic of the engineering sample was taken in lower light compared to today’s pics. In a bright room, you can definitely see the PCB clearly when looking at the Exent from underneath, but IMO that’s not necessarily a bad thing. I’d strongly advise you to at least test the RGB underglow/diffusion before taking a piece of sandpaper to the bottom.

Can we have some information and pictures on the alu bottom also? A vague approximation of the expected delay ?

Well obviously we have missed this deadline. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2512824#msg2512824) It is not within my jurisdiction to tell you what the new deadline is, that would be best answered directly by Jua or Yuktsi. All I can do right now is to humbly ask for a bit more patience, and hopefully that you can adjust your expectations. You are welcome to yell at me if you feel like it.

All the storm of comment had made them post some pictures!

This is patently false. Pics would have been posted regardless of the “storm”, I’m just sorry it wasn’t done before this guy decided to unload (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518526#msg2518526) and open the floodgates.


________

In closing, I just want to say that we’re close to the finish line (for the polycarb kits at least), hopefully the pictures posted are proof enough. I’m super stoked for this board myself (I paid full price like everybody here), and I’m very impressed by what I’ve seen so far. This might be a stretch, but I suspect you might just forget the delays and radio silence once you’ve had the chance to unbox your package and hold the Exent in both arms ;)

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Tue, 07 November 2017, 10:23:52
Ah, nice update! Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 07 November 2017, 11:34:23
...

I think it's unfortunate that some got as agitated as they did yesterday, although few members condescending comments about patience and previous GB history did little but exacerbate the situation.

I would like to point out to you, however, that if you (collectively) we're aware that we were promised pictures and knew that you had no pictures to post, you could have simply said "Oops forgot pics, you'll see them Monday night".

That's the difference between this buy and Mira. By any reasonable standard, Mira is much further off track than this one is but there isn't anywhere near the level of agitation as the runner frequently drops status updates even if things are just status quo.

Silence breeds fear, especially when the silence comes after a missed deadline. Fight the silence. Talk to us, when you say you will, and tell us when to expect to hear from you again.

It's not too much to ask.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Tue, 07 November 2017, 11:41:43


In closing, I just want to say that we’re close to the finish line (for the polycarb kits at least), hopefully the pictures posted are proof enough. I’m super stoked for this board myself (I paid full price like everybody here), and I’m very impressed by what I’ve seen so far. This might be a stretch, but I suspect you might just forget the delays and radio silence once you’ve had the chance to unbox your package and hold the Exent in both arms ;)

Is the goal to ship them this week, or next week?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 07 November 2017, 11:42:45

This is patently false. Pics would have been posted regardless of the “storm”, I’m just sorry it wasn’t done before this guy decided to unload (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518526#msg2518526) and open the floodgates.



Hey, I decided to "unload" because I have been waiting 9 months, extremely patiently and politely, for consistent, clear, and informative updates to start happening. At the time I posted that, we were past the second deadline and getting zero information, even after multiple requests. After all the stories I hear about people getting burned by group buys, I, and everyone else, have every right to be concerned the same was happening here.

Furthermore, judging by the "floodgate" I "opened," it was a matter of time before someone said what I said, just as, as you said, it was a matter of time before Jua and/or Yuktsi got around to posting pictures.

Finally, it doesn't excuse anything on the end of the leadership. If you can't post pictures because the location you are using to pack is closed, mention it. The way I see it, particularly over the past couple weeks, there is no excuse whatsoever for the poor quality of information that was rendered to the community.

So stop pointing fingers at me, stop demonizing me, I simply stepped up. You want a bad community? One that will spiral into itself until it implodes? Punish or denigrate that kind of behavior.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 07 November 2017, 12:11:00
Silence breeds fear, especially when the silence comes after a missed deadline. Fight the silence. Talk to us, when you say you will, and tell us when to expect to hear from you again.

It's not too much to ask.

This is another civil way to put it. Well said.

Edit: aw **** clean up's here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Tue, 07 November 2017, 12:13:51
Eat ****

Somebody get this guy a set of JTK Toxic  :p
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 07 November 2017, 12:19:54
Is the goal to ship them this week, or next week?

I would like to know this too. Pics are good and all, but we've already had enough of them in the past to know that these boards exist. When can we hope for them to be shipped? What next date should we be looking to? That seems to be the one big question currently left unanswered.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Tue, 07 November 2017, 12:42:24
I would like to point out to you, however, that if you (collectively) we're aware that we were promised pictures and knew that you had no pictures to post, you could have simply said "Oops forgot pics, you'll see them Monday night".

You're right, can't argue with you there.

I guess when we promised pics "later" (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2516872#msg2516872), the intention was "later tonight", but upon realizing we didn't have them we (mistakenly) assumed "later" would be enough to tide us over the weekend into Monday without having to come make excuses here. My apologies.


Is the goal to ship them this week, or next week?

I would like to know this too. Pics are good and all, but we've already had enough of them in the past to know that these boards exist. When can we hope for them to be shipped? What next date should we be looking to? That seems to be the one big question currently left unanswered.

It's almost 3am here and it would be remiss of me to answer this without first confirming with the main GB people. I'll see to it when we meet up tomorrow to pack more boards.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 07 November 2017, 12:44:31
Silence breeds fear, especially when the silence comes after a missed deadline. Fight the silence. Talk to us, when you say you will, and tell us when to expect to hear from you again.

It's not too much to ask.

This is another civil way to put it. Well said.

Edit: aw **** clean up's here.

Yeah I really appreciate the mods removing any comments I made defending myself, including the civil ones for which there was no reason to remove them. Now I just look exclusively like the person stirring up a storm. Jerks.

Definitely seen enough of this community to be done with it once I get out of the buys I'm in.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Tue, 07 November 2017, 12:48:34
Silence breeds fear, especially when the silence comes after a missed deadline. Fight the silence. Talk to us, when you say you will, and tell us when to expect to hear from you again.

It's not too much to ask.

This is another civil way to put it. Well said.

Edit: aw **** clean up's here.

Yeah I really appreciate the mods removing any comments I made defending myself, including the civil ones for which there was no reason to remove them. Now I just look exclusively like the person stirring up a storm. Jerks.

Definitely seen enough of this community to be done with it once I get out of the buys I'm in.


You were the only person to insult people. Complaining is not the problem.


You won’t be missed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 07 November 2017, 13:02:25
Hi guys,

I’ve been helping Aconic and TGR prep the boards for shipping. I never intended to post here, but I feel the degree of escalation in this thread over the past two days has been unwarranted and unjustified. Allow me to explain.

[SNIP]


Thanks for addressing some of our concerns.  I've said all I wanted to say so I'll go back to lurking and hoping.  Sorry if my comments offended anyone.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 07 November 2017, 13:37:30
Hi guys,

I’ve been helping Aconic and TGR prep the boards for shipping. I never intended to post here, but I feel the degree of escalation in this thread over the past two days has been unwarranted and unjustified. Allow me to explain.

Firstly, do remember that we are working out of someone else’s premises, as explained by Jua in this post. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2512857#msg2512857)

Secondly, when Yuktsi posted this update (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2516872#msg2516872) last Friday, it was already 5:30pm over here. We’d just left the facility after a long day of sorting and packing; each of us assumed the other had taken pictures when in fact nobody did. By the time we realized this, it was too late to go back for pictures as the owner had already locked up for the weekend. This is not an excuse, it was an honest mistake on our part and I'm just pointing out what happened.

We finally got around to taking some pics late yesterday (Monday 6 Nov) and posting them today (Tuesday 7 Nov), I hope this is sufficient proof that progress is being made and people can feel more at ease.

Moving on. I’ll try to steer this thread back on track by addressing some questions/statements from you guys (*DISCLAIMER*: I could be mistaken, Jua or Yuktsi please do step in and correct me).

...last I heard there were no pink extras unfortunately

You’re right.

Frosted acrylic looks much more transparent than the original engineering sample, any chance this is a one-off? Or are they all as transparent as this most recent photo.. I was hoping for something a little more opaque.

...I can just take sandpaper to the inside of it once I get it to make it a little more 'frosted'

The pic of the engineering sample was taken in lower light compared to today’s pics. In a bright room, you can definitely see the PCB clearly when looking at the Exent from underneath, but IMO that’s not necessarily a bad thing. I’d strongly advise you to at least test the RGB underglow/diffusion before taking a piece of sandpaper to the bottom.

Can we have some information and pictures on the alu bottom also? A vague approximation of the expected delay ?

Well obviously we have missed this deadline. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2512824#msg2512824) It is not within my jurisdiction to tell you what the new deadline is, that would be best answered directly by Jua or Yuktsi. All I can do right now is to humbly ask for a bit more patience, and hopefully that you can adjust your expectations. You are welcome to yell at me if you feel like it.

All the storm of comment had made them post some pictures!

This is patently false. Pics would have been posted regardless of the “storm”, I’m just sorry it wasn’t done before this guy decided to unload (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518526#msg2518526) and open the floodgates.


________

In closing, I just want to say that we’re close to the finish line (for the polycarb kits at least), hopefully the pictures posted are proof enough. I’m super stoked for this board myself (I paid full price like everybody here), and I’m very impressed by what I’ve seen so far. This might be a stretch, but I suspect you might just forget the delays and radio silence once you’ve had the chance to unbox your package and hold the Exent in both arms ;)

Far for me the idea to yell on you. I hope you did not see my comment as something bad.. I am just curious. I now delay can happen, I just said that communication is a good thing, even without pick, just drop a little message on the process is nice, as you did and I would like to thank you very much for this message. I am super confident that this board will deliver, and as I said I am in no need or rush to get this :) !

Thanks again for the update, and I hope there will be some more with some details for the alu bottom  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 07 November 2017, 13:41:54
If delays of double or more beyond the expected delivery date are "super common" then we have a major ****ing problem in our community.  Why are YOU okay with this?

Just because the GB is setup by some "community member" (I use the term loosely - frequently they are from some other community and have only signed up here to generate interest) doesn't make it OK for them to take our money and then maybe, possibly, eventually deliver something that resembles what we paid for.  You're out of your mind.  In no other hobby would that be considered acceptable.

It's no surprise so much keyboard business has shifted to companies like Massdrop.  People ***** about the "community feeling" disappearing from our hobby... but it's because the community is full of spineless flakes and fraudsters!

This is super common in the playing card collecting community which has a similar indie production community to mechanical keyboards, and through both Kickstarter and IndieGoGo, platforms built around this type of support funded project creation.  I'm closing in on nearly 200 crowd funding projects supported, including GBs through forums like this, and crowd funding platforms like Kickstarter, and this is not only commonplace but it is also generally expected by experienced backers. While it's not uncommon for reactions like you are having, it tends to be the minority, and frequently comes from people with limited crowd funding experience (not assuming that is you) who don't realize extreme delays aren't uncommon and that the majority of supporters don't see it as a problem so much as an understandable hiccup and frequently lean more towards a "as long as it takes to get it right" mentality.

I, personally, am OK with this because I am waiting on something completely and totally superfluous, I already have keyboards, plural, so it doesn't matter if another keyboard takes longer to show up. I would argue this is the case for everyone here since we all clearly have one text input method or another, and I would be completely shocked if no one here had at least one keyboard already, which is a little hardcore if they are going from only typing on a cell phone straight to an Exent.

Clearly agree with you, is it super unlikely that someone here really "need" the exent as a primary keyboard! Nevertheless, I understand the reaction of some people here (I do not caution getting rude!), but as I told I faced a "failed" kickstarter project which provide this kind of not so good communication, even with pictures and so on for about 2 years, then they stopped taking pic and responding.. They add the very bad taste to send a message one month ago telling "we will finish with our own money".. No they will not, I lost almost 300 bucks on this, but this is life of GB... I really think (and HOPE !) this will finish and that we will get our amazing keebs soon enough and everything will be okay :) ! But for sure, communication is good and it not that time consuming. I think the main point of a lot of people here is to have update on regular basis even if it is to tell bad news, delay and so on. I really agree with you that this delay, for this kind of product is "okay" at the end, but for sure communication was not the best here.

All the storm of comment had made them post some pictures! So I would say they read this post and care, but It would be nice to have some words for them also with some expected delay, avancing for process and packing...

I think you're conflating an articulated need with a degree of subjective acceptance related to delays.  This is a logical fallacy.

I may not need a particular product.  But if I buy it, I have a reasonable expectation as a consumer that it will be delivered at some time roughly around the stated delivery window, and that the selling party will keep me informed of any and all developments.  This is basic commerce and customer service stuff.  It's not rocket science.

"**** happens", as they say, and some delays are expected.  I thought I was clear on this, so it's incredibly frustrating that I have to keep repeating the point.  No one said all delays were unacceptable.  This isn't my first rodeo.  The delays in this GB are extraordinary and when combined with wholly inadequate communication they make a trainwreck.  The team has failed to deliver the product in a reasonable time (commerce) and failed to explain why (customer service).  It's the double failure that's not acceptable.

All I'm asking is for sellers to hold up their end of the bargain and for "buyers" to stop giving them a limp-wristed pass every time they **** up.  Let's set some standards and hold people accountable to them.

I also agree with you. There is a clear need for communication. They should, as a lot of people correctly suggest here, have put a larger estimation of the time it will need. I think everyone would be okay for a 6 month process, and if it finish in 4 everyone is happy ! And if there is few month of delay for sure it will be less. I just feel that often some people are not very handy with communication, as I face it in my personal and professional life all the time. They do amazing things, but they don't know how to handle the com' correctly, which is bad.. I am sure things could have run more smoothly with constant update even with this delay.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Wed, 08 November 2017, 10:32:55
Is the goal to ship them this week, or next week?

I would like to know this too. Pics are good and all, but we've already had enough of them in the past to know that these boards exist. When can we hope for them to be shipped? What next date should we be looking to? That seems to be the one big question currently left unanswered.

It's almost 3am here and it would be remiss of me to answer this without first confirming with the main GB people. I'll see to it when we meet up tomorrow to pack more boards.

So,

1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet and alu plate (including the boards pictured here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518919#msg2518919)). *Note: edited*
- Shipping company has been notified to come collect them.
- Earliest we can start giving people their tracking numbers is next week. Your patience is appreciated.

2) For Polycarb premium kits:
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
- We’ll begin packing as if they were basic kits, and throw the caps in last.

3) For kits with alu bottom:
- Still being machined.

4) Next update:
- Probably the weekend, depending on how much progress is made with #2.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 08 November 2017, 10:37:48
Thanks for the update!  :)
Waiting patiently for the alu bottoms, hopefully i can get it before the year ends.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 08 November 2017, 10:49:07
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.

Are you sure? 

Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?
Yeah.  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Wed, 08 November 2017, 10:52:27
Is the goal to ship them this week, or next week?

I would like to know this too. Pics are good and all, but we've already had enough of them in the past to know that these boards exist. When can we hope for them to be shipped? What next date should we be looking to? That seems to be the one big question currently left unanswered.

It's almost 3am here and it would be remiss of me to answer this without first confirming with the main GB people. I'll see to it when we meet up tomorrow to pack more boards.

So,

1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet (including the boards pictured here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518919#msg2518919)).
- Shipping company has been notified to come collect them.
- Earliest we can start giving people their tracking numbers is next week. Your patience is appreciated.

2) For Polycarb premium kits:
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
- We’ll begin packing as if they were basic kits, and throw the caps in last.

3) For kits with alu bottom:
- Still being machined.

4) Next update:
- Probably the weekend, depending on how much progress is made with #2.

So where are the grey kits? I got a premium grey kit and would like to know...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kingnestea on Wed, 08 November 2017, 11:02:55
Is the goal to ship them this week, or next week?

I would like to know this too. Pics are good and all, but we've already had enough of them in the past to know that these boards exist. When can we hope for them to be shipped? What next date should we be looking to? That seems to be the one big question currently left unanswered.

It's almost 3am here and it would be remiss of me to answer this without first confirming with the main GB people. I'll see to it when we meet up tomorrow to pack more boards.

So,

1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet (including the boards pictured here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518919#msg2518919)).
- Shipping company has been notified to come collect them.
- Earliest we can start giving people their tracking numbers is next week. Your patience is appreciated.

2) For Polycarb premium kits:
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
- We’ll begin packing as if they were basic kits, and throw the caps in last.

3) For kits with alu bottom:
- Still being machined.

4) Next update:
- Probably the weekend, depending on how much progress is made with #2.

So where are the grey kits? I got a premium grey kit and would like to know...

Same here with a polycarb gray basic kit
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 08 November 2017, 11:12:08
So,

1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet (including the boards pictured here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518919#msg2518919)).
- Shipping company has been notified to come collect them.
- Earliest we can start giving people their tracking numbers is next week. Your patience is appreciated.

2) For Polycarb premium kits:
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
- We’ll begin packing as if they were basic kits, and throw the caps in last.

3) For kits with alu bottom:
- Still being machined.

4) Next update:
- Probably the weekend, depending on how much progress is made with #2.

Fantastic update; this is the kind of communication I like to see. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 08 November 2017, 12:34:21
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.

Are you sure? 

Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?
Yeah.  :cool:

Would like clarification on this too, other than that - great update! Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 08 November 2017, 13:11:16
And here I am with Gray kit and alu bottom.. Guess I will wait :p !
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: giangpn on Wed, 08 November 2017, 16:04:10
and I'm here waiting for extras lol
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Wed, 08 November 2017, 16:40:32
Quote
2) For Polycarb premium kits:
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.
- We’ll begin packing as if they were basic kits, and throw the caps in last.

4) Next update:
- Probably the weekend, depending on how much progress is made with #2.

I'm making myself manage expectations. Fingers crossed for polycarb premium kits to start shipping in 2018 Q1 (maybe Q2). Just around the corner guys.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Wed, 08 November 2017, 17:01:51
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.

Are you sure? 

Would like clarification on this too

As in, haven't got to the facility we're using to do the packing. Someone will bring them over by car. I don't know whose house they're in.


So where are the grey kits? I got a premium grey kit and would like to know...

Same here with a polycarb gray basic kit

Let me check on the status of the greys and get back to ya.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 08 November 2017, 17:09:05
- The GMK sets haven’t got here yet, but we’re expecting them soon™.

Are you sure? 

Would like clarification on this too

As in, haven't got to the facility we're using to do the packing. Someone will bring them over by car. I don't know whose house they're in.

That's reassuring, glad that was cleared up swiftly. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: stand.geek on Wed, 08 November 2017, 23:22:50
Any info about the 12 degree feet?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Thu, 09 November 2017, 07:06:35
And the dark greys?


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: txclack on Thu, 09 November 2017, 09:25:44
I'll take any ones GMK Keys they no longer wanted $$$

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 09 November 2017, 09:42:26
I haven’t been following along closely to this thread for a while. Has it been said when extras will be available?


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Thu, 09 November 2017, 21:05:23
Answers to questions:

So where are the grey kits? I got a premium grey kit and would like to know...

Same here with a polycarb gray basic kit

Let me check on the status of the greys and get back to ya.

A box was just dropped off at our packing facility this morning :) They look great!

Black - Grey - Silver:

(https://i.imgur.com/B8x9bFE.jpg)


Any info about the 12 degree feet?

Give me a couple days to check up on this.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Thu, 09 November 2017, 21:12:25
Latest news:

1) Polycarb basic kits:
- Sorry I made a mistake with the previous update. This is the corrected post:

1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet and alu plate.

- This means if you picked the brass plate or 12deg feet, or if you added any extras to your basic kit order (e.g. a second PCB), it was filed under a different spreadsheet and will be packed later.
- Today's job will be packing the basic Grey orders (8deg feet, alu plate) with no extras.

2) Polycarb premium kits:
- Will start packing after Grey basics are done.

3) Kits with alu bottom:
- No change. The bottoms are still being machined.

4) Next update:
- I’ll check in again after the weekend. But Jua/Yuktsi might beat me to it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 09 November 2017, 21:37:46
Good update. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 09 November 2017, 21:38:43
Damn I'm real pleased with silver. Glad I chose that color.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 09 November 2017, 23:14:39
I got the black and the grey because I couldn't decide between the two, really liking the look of the silver though...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 10 November 2017, 06:23:19
Latest news:

1) Polycarb basic kits:
- Sorry I made a mistake with the previous update. This is the corrected post:

1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet and alu plate.

- This means if you picked the brass plate or 12deg feet, or if you added any extras to your basic kit order (e.g. a second PCB), it was filed under a different spreadsheet and will be packed later.
- Today's job will be packing the basic Grey orders (8deg feet, alu plate) with no extras

Any word on when that "later" would be for the brass plates/12º feet?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Fri, 10 November 2017, 06:29:55
I made all the wrong choices...
Dark gray, brass plate, 12* feet. Well at least not the Alu bottom. So I guess it could be worse :D


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 10 November 2017, 06:33:02
I made all the wrong choices...
Dark gray, brass plate, 12* feet. Well at least not the Alu bottom. So I guess it could be worse :D


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Ahah same for me, dark gray, alu bottom.. But it the end it is not worst, the key is to have an amazing keebs with the spec that WE want :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Fri, 10 November 2017, 09:08:23
I ordered the pink because I figured why not, and damn if the pictures don't look better than I even expected. Kind of sad I didn't order a black to go with it, though.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Hellcatz on Fri, 10 November 2017, 09:12:22
Waitin for extras Plese message me if your selling
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 13 November 2017, 11:15:13
After a month of not checking, I came here to check on production/shipping progress and wow, really surprised by people flipping out about production delays...  I have an aluminum bottom, so I'm going to be one of the last to receive.  I'm happy to be getting an EXENT, even though the delays are long. 

For those who are not as experienced in supporting group buys, you will get your product.  I've seen some group buys go as long as 4 years!  I agree with previous posters that, as a community, we should hold runners to higher standards.  Unfortunately, a lot of delays are not in control of the person running the group buy...  and they often end up running the buy at a loss because of it. 

Thanks TARO for running this.  Good luck with everything and best of luck on the packing/shipping of the first group to go out!   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 14 November 2017, 01:27:11
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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Tue, 14 November 2017, 02:15:39
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I think he seems to conduct the quality check.
That purple one might be mine. Can’t wait!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Tue, 14 November 2017, 02:16:12
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Thanks Yuktsi!

Dark gray looking great! Glad I went for it :)


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 14 November 2017, 03:11:41
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Thanks Yuktsi!

Dark gray looking great! Glad I went for it :)


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Agreed! It look awesome! Can’t wait to hold it!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 14 November 2017, 04:20:13
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Bunch of packed exents ready to be shipped.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kingnestea on Tue, 14 November 2017, 04:26:43
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Bunch of packed exents ready to be shipped.


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Any chance some gray basic kits among these?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: catweewee on Tue, 14 November 2017, 04:41:02
Hi!

Sharing some pics of the Black and Blue.

(https://i.imgur.com/soJ0SxV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/u61MHl4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1wu7CyL.jpg)

Full album here: https://imgur.com/a/p0HkI



Enjoy :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Tue, 14 November 2017, 05:03:22
Holy moly these look sweet!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: merutz on Tue, 14 November 2017, 05:26:18
Thanks for the update guys! Looking good!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Tue, 14 November 2017, 05:43:39
Hi!

Sharing some pics of the Black and Blue.

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Enjoy :)

Wow, blue is dope. How beautiful!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: robbles on Tue, 14 November 2017, 09:42:46
These pics are really making me regret cancelling my order. Ran into some financial issues and needed the money. The black looks so sweet. Can't wait to see all the glamour shots when people finish their builds!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 14 November 2017, 14:34:13
A box was just dropped off at our packing facility this morning :) They look great!

Black - Grey - Silver:

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Just curious: It looks in this photo like the gray is fairly splotchy (non-uniform)... is this a camera issue or is it like that in real life? By comparison the other colors all look very uniform.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 14 November 2017, 14:48:09
A box was just dropped off at our packing facility this morning :) They look great!

Black - Grey - Silver:

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Just curious: It looks in this photo like the gray is fairly splotchy (non-uniform)... is this a camera issue or is it like that in real life? By comparison the other colors all look very uniform.

Could be fingerprints.  You can (barely) see it on the black case too, and it's not present in later photos of the black case.  Just a guess.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 14 November 2017, 15:17:16
A box was just dropped off at our packing facility this morning :) They look great!

Black - Grey - Silver:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/B8x9bFE.jpg)


Just curious: It looks in this photo like the gray is fairly splotchy (non-uniform)... is this a camera issue or is it like that in real life? By comparison the other colors all look very uniform.

Could be fingerprints.  You can (barely) see it on the black case too, and it's not present in later photos of the black case.  Just a guess.

I was also wondering this myself. I thought it could be some kind of grease or deposit due to the process. I understand that they had issue with the dark gray anodization process, and re-done it. So I would be quite surprise if this kind of huge mark would be consider acceptable for them. It must definitely be some kind of deposit that will be clean and not a default in the color.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Tue, 14 November 2017, 21:26:17
Hi team, loving what I've seen so far. I can't wait to get my Black with Brass and the Alum / Polycarb bottoms. I was wondering if we could see an updated photo of the keycaps?

Thanks! <3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Wed, 15 November 2017, 04:00:07
Hi guys. Just checking in quickly. Hope you're all having a good week.

Just curious: It looks in this photo like the gray is fairly splotchy (non-uniform)... is this a camera issue or is it like that in real life? By comparison the other colors all look very uniform.

To confirm, this is indeed an issue for grey. Unfortunately, it was more obvious in my photo compared to in real life (i.e. camera makes it look worse), so it wasn't caught early. We just wasted the entire day unpacking and disassembling grey Exents. Most (all?) are affected. Jua/Yuktsi will comment on this moving forward.

Couple of short updates:

1) For Polycarb basic kits:
- Packing done for Black, Blue, Purple, Pink and Silver orders that have the standard 8deg feet and alu plate (including the boards pictured here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2518919#msg2518919)). *Note: edited*
- Shipping company has been notified to come collect them.

This is still trickling out. Not all have been picked up for delivery yet (different couriers for different parts of the world).

Any word on when that "later" would be for the brass plates/12º feet?

Only after all alu plate orders & 8deg feet orders have been sorted out.

I was wondering if we could see an updated photo of the keycaps?

Requests for specific photos will have to wait. I wanted to take a pic of the brass plates but they were buried under several heavy boxes of parts which were buried under bundles of packing foam which were covered with stationery, paperwork and bottles of water.

__________

If you have more questions just leave them below and I'll see what I can do. Also, a huge thanks to those who've left us positive messages or words of encouragement!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Wed, 15 November 2017, 04:43:12
The pics look great, I can't wait for mine  :p

Any ETA for the aluminium bottoms?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 15 November 2017, 04:56:50
Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 15 November 2017, 07:04:26
Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?
I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 15 November 2017, 07:05:45
The pics look great, I can't wait for mine  :p

Any ETA for the aluminium bottoms?
They are still finishing on the machining. We have requested for some photos and update, still waiting on the reply.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 15 November 2017, 07:06:47
Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?
I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.

Thanks Yuktsi! I hope it will do fine :) !
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 15 November 2017, 07:09:57
Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?
I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.

Thanks Yuktsi! I hope it will do fine :) !
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 15 November 2017, 07:11:30
Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?
I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.

Thanks Yuktsi! I hope it will do fine :) !
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.

The dark gray was the only one affected by this issue? The anodisation process is somehow different to the other color?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 15 November 2017, 07:14:09
Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?
I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.

Thanks Yuktsi! I hope it will do fine :) !
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.

The dark gray was the only one affected by this issue? The anodisation process is somehow different to the other color?
I think the process for grey or silver is different from the others.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: avid on Wed, 15 November 2017, 07:24:23
I think the process for grey or silver is different from the others.

Im quoting Puddsy from the CLS thread:

"Dark grey is a VERY hard color to do right, especially with this alloy of aluminum (6061), so I suspect that's why it's not quite perfectly grey. This is actually the reason the MIRA uses 6063, so that they can get the lunar grey to look right.

Every alloy of aluminum gives a slightly different color overtone, and every anodizing pool gives a slightly different color. That's why sometimes you'll see Chinese GBs talking about "bad pools." The benefit to 6061, however, is that it gives dark grey overtones to whatever color you anodize it."

Why small variations in color?

"it's because it's a "chaotic electrobonding process," and there's no "canned" grey color like with cerakote. You're basically forcing the aluminum to be dark grey, and inconsistencies just show up more often in that color. "

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 15 November 2017, 11:52:17
So there are issues with the dark grey, but no issues with the rest of the colors right? We won't be waiting for the dark grey to be fixed before the other colors are shipped out ya?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Wed, 15 November 2017, 12:19:48
People who chose other colors also have to wait for the dark grey ones to be fixed? Hope it goes well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 15 November 2017, 12:21:02
Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?
I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.

Thanks Yuktsi! I hope it will do fine :) !
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.

The dark gray was the only one affected by this issue? The anodisation process is somehow different to the other color?
I think the process for grey or silver is different from the others.

Silver is clear anodizing. Nearly impossible to **** up.

Grey, on the other hand...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Wed, 15 November 2017, 12:43:46
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.

If this is the case, I'd really love to be able to switch my order to a black. It's a long wait and a good cost to end up with a board that ends up that splotchy. Is there any chance you'll have the ability to swap grays?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Wed, 15 November 2017, 16:18:55
So there are issues with the dark grey, but no issues with the rest of the colors right? We won't be waiting for the dark grey to be fixed before the other colors are shipped out ya?

People who chose other colors also have to wait for the dark grey ones to be fixed? Hope it goes well.

No. We are bottlenecked by physical space. We need as many to go out as soon as possible.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 15 November 2017, 16:52:47
So there are issues with the dark grey, but no issues with the rest of the colors right? We won't be waiting for the dark grey to be fixed before the other colors are shipped out ya?

People who chose other colors also have to wait for the dark grey ones to be fixed? Hope it goes well.

No. We are bottlenecked by physical space. We need as many to go out as soon as possible.


Nice. Figured you wouldn't want to keep the shippable stuff hanging around but thought I'd check anyway.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rustywok on Wed, 15 November 2017, 19:35:22
Wow so the issue with the dark gray are real. Even if you said it is more visible on the pic that on real life, it is still looking very «non uniform », which is not nice at all. Can we have more info on that? The finish will be remake or leave as it is?
I have two boxes of grey top in my car now, gonna send them back tomorrow and will update you guys on how it goes.

What's our options if the gray comes back still splotchy? I mean the manufacturer didn't seem very positive. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Munnybear on Wed, 15 November 2017, 21:29:04
Hey, just wondering if this is usb micro or usb mini?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 16 November 2017, 01:16:28
Has shipping happened for basic kits? How do you find your tracking?


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 16 November 2017, 01:23:57
Hey, just wondering if this is usb micro or usb mini?

Are there actually Micro USB pcbs? Pretty much every board I'm aware of has MiniUSB and a few new ones have USB-C. The ONLY microusb board I'm aware of is the Anne Pro.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 16 November 2017, 01:28:59
Hey, just wondering if this is usb micro or usb mini?

Are there actually Micro USB pcbs? Pretty much every board I'm aware of has MiniUSB and a few new ones have USB-C. The ONLY microusb board I'm aware of is the Anne Pro.

The novatouch also uses micro usb. Not sure if there are any custom pcbs with micro usb.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 16 November 2017, 01:48:31
Hey, just wondering if this is usb micro or usb mini?

Are there actually Micro USB pcbs? Pretty much every board I'm aware of has MiniUSB and a few new ones have USB-C. The ONLY microusb board I'm aware of is the Anne Pro.

The novatouch also uses micro usb. Not sure if there are any custom pcbs with micro usb.

i've definitely seen it before but i don't remember exactly what PCB it was
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Thu, 16 November 2017, 01:51:32
You see it on boards that use a Pro Micro as the controller like Gherkins and Let’s Split. I really don’t like it as a connector though, I don’t find it stands up very well to regular plugging/unplugging like mini can.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 16 November 2017, 02:14:22
You see it on boards that use a Pro Micro as the controller like Gherkins and Let’s Split. I really don’t like it as a connector though, I don’t find it stands up very well to regular plugging/unplugging like mini can.

micro is actually rated for more plug cycles than mini
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Thu, 16 November 2017, 04:56:16
Hey, just wondering if this is usb micro or usb mini?

Based on the images of the PCB it's definitely Mini USB, a Micro USB socket is much shorter when viewed from above.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Thu, 16 November 2017, 05:53:40
You see it on boards that use a Pro Micro as the controller like Gherkins and Let’s Split. I really don’t like it as a connector though, I don’t find it stands up very well to regular plugging/unplugging like mini can.

micro is actually rated for more plug cycles than mini
I think my experience is based on cheap pro micro clones where the USB port breaks a little too easily!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 17 November 2017, 08:43:17
I...

I think I just got a... is this a tracking number?

What?   :-X
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Fri, 17 November 2017, 09:09:17
I...

I think I just got a... is this a tracking number?

What?   :-X

Shut the front door :) Has it really started?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Fri, 17 November 2017, 09:45:49
I...

I think I just got a... is this a tracking number?

What?   :-X

Set up a live cam when it arrives.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 17 November 2017, 09:59:26
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 17 November 2017, 10:04:13
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.

Yeah it's not found by 17 Track.  Your guess is as good as mine.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: giangpn on Fri, 17 November 2017, 10:04:27
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.

could be international carrier atm?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 17 November 2017, 10:26:41
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.

could be international carrier atm?

I'm sure it is. Do you know how many there are? It's insane.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: avid on Fri, 17 November 2017, 10:32:30
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.

track.aftership.com/

Just put the tracking number after that and you will find it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 17 November 2017, 10:53:10
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.

track.aftership.com/

Just put the tracking number after that and you will find it.

Does yours retrieve? Mine connects to a shipping company in Spain, which I assume is wrong.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: avid on Fri, 17 November 2017, 10:55:15

Does yours retrieve? Mine connects to a shipping company in Spain, which I assume is wrong.

Im not in this GB, but have always worked for everything ive bought.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Fri, 17 November 2017, 11:17:40
Having a tracking number means the shipping label has been created. The carrier hasn't necessarily got the package yet, which could be why you're having trouble finding it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 17 November 2017, 11:51:25
Wow holy crap I got a tracking number weoooooo

Cannot ****ing wait to get this thing in my hands. I **** you not I dreamt about it last night.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wsupnate on Fri, 17 November 2017, 13:18:28
Oh man this board looks so neat, I hope it's not too late to submit an order
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Fri, 17 November 2017, 13:20:14
Oh man this board looks so neat, I hope it's not too late to submit an order

Far too late. Extras will be available soon probably.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Fri, 17 November 2017, 13:53:00
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.

If this is the case, I'd really love to be able to switch my order to a black. It's a long wait and a good cost to end up with a board that ends up that splotchy. Is there any chance you'll have the ability to swap grays?

Sorry, I'm bumping this question because I'd love to hear what the deal is going to be with grays, since it sounds like they won't look that great.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Fri, 17 November 2017, 14:03:25
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.

If this is the case, I'd really love to be able to switch my order to a black. It's a long wait and a good cost to end up with a board that ends up that splotchy. Is there any chance you'll have the ability to swap grays?

Sorry, I'm bumping this question because I'd love to hear what the deal is going to be with grays, since it sounds like they won't look that great.
purely speculating but i doubt they'll be able to fix the greys

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 17 November 2017, 14:13:11
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.

If this is the case, I'd really love to be able to switch my order to a black. It's a long wait and a good cost to end up with a board that ends up that splotchy. Is there any chance you'll have the ability to swap grays?

Sorry, I'm bumping this question because I'd love to hear what the deal is going to be with grays, since it sounds like they won't look that great.
purely speculating but i doubt they'll be able to fix the greys

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that's not a very nice thing to be speculating
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Fri, 17 November 2017, 14:46:04
Spoke to the owner today, they will help to redo, but not sure if it will solve the problem. EXENT has a larger surface facing the top, thus is much more challenging when it comes to anodizing.

If this is the case, I'd really love to be able to switch my order to a black. It's a long wait and a good cost to end up with a board that ends up that splotchy. Is there any chance you'll have the ability to swap grays?

Sorry, I'm bumping this question because I'd love to hear what the deal is going to be with grays, since it sounds like they won't look that great.
purely speculating but i doubt they'll be able to fix the greys

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that's not a very nice thing to be speculating
:(

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Troif on Fri, 17 November 2017, 15:46:58
I got one too but I can't figure out the carrier.

track.aftership.com/

Just put the tracking number after that and you will find it.

Does yours retrieve? Mine connects to a shipping company in Spain, which I assume is wrong.

Spain? It is mine then!!!  :)))


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zhihuichan on Fri, 17 November 2017, 20:44:09
I  got the tracking number yesterday. No Carrier.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 18 November 2017, 00:38:49
They grey are going through rework right now. No news yet. And about 30+ parcel were picked up last Friday evening.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Sat, 18 November 2017, 00:43:00
Any word on the aluminum bottoms?

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sat, 18 November 2017, 00:46:29
They grey are going through rework right now. No news yet. And about 30+ parcel were picked up last Friday evening.

What company?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 18 November 2017, 02:43:23
They grey are going through rework right now. No news yet. And about 30+ parcel were picked up last Friday evening.

Do you expect the issue with gray to be solvable ? Or will it stay unperfect?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ArcticDolphin on Sat, 18 November 2017, 07:50:01
I  got the tracking number yesterday. No Carrier.

Did you get the tracking number by email?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Sat, 18 November 2017, 08:57:44
Wish I had received the tracking, expecting to be included in the next shipping out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Sun, 19 November 2017, 18:48:15
So if we have Grey Premium, are we expecting a major delay in our order? As a premium buyer I would like to have an option in case there are going to be issues with them (Grey Bases). In other words an option to switch colors with any extras, etc. Can someone let me know? Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Mon, 20 November 2017, 06:52:58
They grey are going through rework right now. No news yet. And about 30+ parcel were picked up last Friday evening.

What company?
Question of the month.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 20 November 2017, 19:45:54
Please let us know if boards have actually shipped. Tracking number shows no activity across every shipper I've tried.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 20 November 2017, 22:24:24
I'd also like to know what is going on with the tracking numbers.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: catweewee on Tue, 21 November 2017, 02:01:15
Sf express.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 21 November 2017, 02:16:50
I'd also like to know what is going on with the tracking numbers.
Give it a couple of days for the tracking to appear in their system. All US orders were shipped using S.F. Express. While non-US were shipped using EMS, which we haven't updated to PayPal yet.

Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Tue, 21 November 2017, 02:18:23
I'd also like to know what is going on with the tracking numbers.
Give it a couple of days for the tracking to appear in their system. All US orders were shipped using S.F. Express. While non-US were shipped using EMS, which we haven't updated to PayPal yet.

Thanks.
How are you getting on with premium kits with the key caps? Are they shipping yet?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 21 November 2017, 08:26:24
How are you getting on with premium kits with the key caps? Are they shipping yet?

I'd like to know this too. I know they're shipping out later (or at least that's what I remember hearing last), so an update on those would be cool. I was also one of the few who had my PayPal money held, so I'm completely clueless on when to expect a shipping notification and where to check for one. The one on my PayPal invoice won't be the one for my Exent, right?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 21 November 2017, 08:56:16
Any news with the re-process of thedark gray? And also on the alu bottom? Thannnnks!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 21 November 2017, 09:13:17
Any news with the re-process of thedark gray? And also on the alu bottom? Thannnnks!  :thumb:
Called this morning. They haven’t looked at it yet


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 21 November 2017, 09:15:37
Any news with the re-process of thedark gray? And also on the alu bottom? Thannnnks!  :thumb:
Called this morning. They haven’t looked at it yet


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Thanks yuktsi !!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 21 November 2017, 09:29:01
Any news with the re-process of thedark gray? And also on the alu bottom? Thannnnks!  :thumb:
Called this morning. They haven’t looked at it yet


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You probably got no solid ETA yet which is understandable but if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great! Just so we (and I, since I'm included in 2 of those 3 groups) know when we can expect tracking to be a couple days out.

Thank you for handling the situation as well as you guys have been of late, glad to see things are finally in motion.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: g_ken92 on Tue, 21 November 2017, 10:11:03
Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Tue, 21 November 2017, 10:55:26
So nervous..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:01:22
I wonder when the shipping of the Basic Kit including Alu plate will be completed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:10:34
Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

Yeah with half the LEDs not working and issues with the screw in stabilizers disabling keys.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: graefeln on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:20:17
Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

Yeah with half the LEDs not working and issues with the screw in stabilizers disabling keys.

To be fair, that second part happens on quite a few boards. Use a non-conductive washer or some tape and it's fine... the more layouts you make a PCB compatible with, the more likely it has to have a contact where that screw goes - hell, I had it happen with a NERD60 and I would hardly consider that a low quality PCB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:22:06
Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

Yeah with half the LEDs not working and issues with the screw in stabilizers disabling keys.
The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:22:13
Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

Yeah with half the LEDs not working and issues with the screw in stabilizers disabling keys.

To be fair, that second part happens on quite a few boards. Use a non-conductive washer or some tape and it's fine... the more layouts you make a PCB compatible with, the more likely it has to have a contact where that screw goes - hell, I had it happen with a NERD60 and I would hardly consider that a low quality PCB.

It's an easy fix too, but it's not the only problem. We'll see, when mine arrives, how the LEDs behave. At least I can fix it if there's an issue.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Tue, 21 November 2017, 14:46:40

...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!

Ok.


Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

That's definitely not a premium kit.


The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.

graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.

Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.

We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.

No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.

Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence  ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.

Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.


Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Tue, 21 November 2017, 15:06:46



...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!

Ok.


Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

That's definitely not a premium kit.


The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.

graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.

Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.

We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.

No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.

Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence  ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.

Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.

The fix seems quite easy enough, although some pictures of the fix for EXENT's PCB would be appreciated. As for the customer/community issue, people are simply tired of long radio silences and long due deadlines (which we did not get a reason for missing them yet) and majority of us just want to get their boards in working condition. Thats probably not an issue if you've weeded out the dead PCBs already so we all will be happy in the end if none other issue surfaces.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 21 November 2017, 15:14:47







Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.

We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.

No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.

Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence  ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.

Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.

You're damn right we paid money for this board, and it should arrive perfect. I didn't pay a bunch of money and wait nearly a year for something I need to fix when I get it.  Sending a broken PCB is a pretty ****ty thing to do, and having the attitude that it's okay because it's "a community thing" a total slap in the face.

No changing it now, but, once again, you guys need to get your act together.

For a fix like this, I wouldn't have suggested you get the boards re-manufactured either, but if it's so simple, why didn't you guys do it?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Tue, 21 November 2017, 15:29:00







Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.

We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.

No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.

Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence  ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.

Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.

You're damn right we paid money for this board, and it should arrive perfect. I didn't pay a bunch of money and wait nearly a year for something I need to fix when I get it.  Sending a broken PCB is a pretty ****ty thing to do, and having the attitude that it's okay because it's "a community thing" a total slap in the face.

No changing it now, but, once again, you guys need to get your act together.

For a fix like this, I wouldn't have suggested you get the boards re-manufactured either, but if it's so simple, why didn't you guys do it?

you should find a different hobby
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 21 November 2017, 15:44:22
For a fix like this, I wouldn't have suggested you get the boards re-manufactured either, but if it's so simple, why didn't you guys do it?

I have to admit this is a good question. I know it would have probably made a noticeable delay in what is already late shipping, but it would have been more professional imo. This is going to be the first board I've ever soldered, so I really don't want to mess with LEDs on my first shot. Fortunately I ordered two PCBs, so hopefully the failure rate on these LED solder joints isn't high and at least one of my boards won't need repairing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 21 November 2017, 15:53:39
Once again we're in a debate over to what standards group buys and/or group buy leaders should be held. My opinion is, if there is money floating around, a high degree of professionalism, reliability, and transparency is required. Anything less should be grounds for disqualification.

Here's the thing: every unprofessional group buy tarnishes the reliability of the group buy market as a whole. If group buys have a reputation for being badly run, then people will avoid them, which means every bad group buy costs every other group buy - potentially well run or otherwise - money. You, as the group buy leaders, have a vested interest in running group buys well.

But this being a moot point within the context of this group buy specifically, my suggestion is: You guys better put together a good goddamn tutorial on how to fix the LED and screw-in stabilizer issues with the PCBs. More than a link to a comment in some other random thread.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:05:10

...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!

Ok.


Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

That's definitely not a premium kit.


The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.

graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.

Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.

We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.

No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.

Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence  ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.

Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.

So how does this work, I figure out how many dead LEDs I need to replace and you mail them to me? Or do you just compensate me for the part cost?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:06:21
Let’s face it, if the GB production had started on time there would have been time to return the PCBs to be fixed. But as it didn’t I suppose they didn’t really have much choice. It’s disappointing but I understand the decision.

As for the comment about us entering this without seeing it as a community endeavour, I can’t help but find that a little insulting. You sold this board/GB off the back of those involved. You don’t get to benefit from the names you attached to this GB without creating a certain level of expectation. I think we’ve all been very patient but I’d appreciate a little more understanding of where people’s frustration is coming from.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:19:58
So how does this work, I figure out how many dead LEDs I need to replace and you mail them to me? Or do you just compensate me for the part cost?

From what I understand in the linked post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) it's not that the LEDs are actually dead, it's just that the solder joints aren't connected properly. So the fix is to reheat the solder next to the LED so it makes the connection with the board like it's supposed to. You can even add some extra solder if you want, but you need to be very careful with doing that. It's probably not advisable unless you need to.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:24:39
So how does this work, I figure out how many dead LEDs I need to replace and you mail them to me? Or do you just compensate me for the part cost?
The RGB are all connected in series. If you have only 6 LEDs are working, that means you have a poor connection the 6th and the 7th LED. Reflow, the 6th and 7th LED will fix the issue. Unlike most PCB in this hobby, this is a PCB with the gold immersion surface finish. It's more expensive for sure and technically it's better.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Tue, 21 November 2017, 17:21:31
All this bickering, I just want my keyboard  :-[
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Tue, 21 November 2017, 17:32:42
Me too. I don’t care about this bickering. I just want to know when I can get my board.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 21 November 2017, 18:34:15
Is the Aug 9th update the most up to date info for right now?

Quote
Top case: Machining has been completed, anodizing is in progress. We had received of the gray parts, finishing isn't really up to our expectation, they were sent back for rework. The top part will be delivered in batches according to colors.

Bottom Polycarbonate: Machining in progress.

Bottom Aluminum: Will commence as soon as the machining for polycarbonate bottom is completed.

Plate brass: Fabrication in progress.

GMK set: Fabrication in progress.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 21 November 2017, 18:55:14

...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!

Ok.


Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

That's definitely not a premium kit.


The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.

graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.

Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.

We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.

No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.

Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence  ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.

Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.

So yet another problem with the production, and you guys say "**** it, we'll do it live!"  Bill O'Reilly would be proud.   :rolleyes:

I can understand how that might be the path of least resistance given everything that's happened up to this point, but that doesn't make it OK.  It's true that I can probably fix a bad solder joint on my own.  But I shouldn't have to. 

The way you've (plural) handled this tells me I should never touch another project associated with codywanks, yuktsi, juahenza, RAMA, Originative, TGR, TARO, NTW, or ACENIC.  That's probably a little unfair to RAMA, among others, but it's clear now this is not a team that can get the job done in a timely, professional, and respectful manner.  Even if every single problem that's plagued this project was out of your control, it shows that you chose your partners/vendors poorly and you still shoulder 100% of the blame.  Why the hell would anyone want to work with you after this?

Thanks for at least trying to deliver something, I guess.  That's more than I can say for some of these failed GBs.   :(  Your brutal (if mildly insulting) honesty is also better than what we usually get in these situations: radio silence.  So there's something to be said for that too.  Trying to find a silver lining here...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: superdoedoe on Tue, 21 November 2017, 19:51:43

...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!

Ok.


Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

That's definitely not a premium kit.


The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.

graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.

Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.

We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.

No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.

Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence  ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.

Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.

So yet another problem with the production, and you guys say "**** it, we'll do it live!"  Bill O'Reilly would be proud.   :rolleyes:

I can understand how that might be the path of least resistance given everything that's happened up to this point, but that doesn't make it OK.  It's true that I can probably fix a bad solder joint on my own.  But I shouldn't have to. 

The way you've (plural) handled this tells me I should never touch another project associated with codywanks, yuktsi, juahenza, RAMA, Originative, TGR, TARO, NTW, or ACENIC.  That's probably a little unfair to RAMA, among others, but it's clear now this is not a team that can get the job done in a timely, professional, and respectful manner.  Even if every single problem that's plagued this project was out of your control, it shows that you chose your partners/vendors poorly and you still shoulder 100% of the blame.  Why the hell would anyone want to work with you after this?

Thanks for at least trying to deliver something, I guess.  That's more than I can say for some of these failed GBs.   :(  Your brutal (if mildly insulting) honesty is also better than what we usually get in these situations: radio silence.  So there's something to be said for that too.  Trying to find a silver lining here...

Don't blame RAMA, he only designed it and thats where hes relationship with it ends.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 21 November 2017, 19:57:38


Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.

We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.

No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.

Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence  ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.

Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.

I'm not quite affected by this issue so far, because i'll be using an alu bottom but why wasn't this issue only discussed when somebody from the community actually got theirs and told the problem? This should have been told as soon as this QC issue was discovered. This is another blow to the rep, if there is one, of this group buy. Data is also right, the people who joined the buy shouldn't be the one to fix QC issues, even if it is the path of least resistance and not delaying the buy another 2-3 months.

I'm pretty disappointed so far, the alu bottoms being machined is also far far delayed from the "this week or next week" statement a couple weeks back. I was hoping that i'd receive this board before the turn of the year but at this point it looks grim.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Tue, 21 November 2017, 21:49:45
It is quite disappointing that there is PCB issues and that we weren't told until it was too late.  And to add to that, I was in discord while the OP of the Reddit post was building his and he reflowed every led and the problem still exists, so there's that.

I don't even care at this point, I just want my board.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Tue, 21 November 2017, 22:28:20
So how does this work, I figure out how many dead LEDs I need to replace and you mail them to me? Or do you just compensate me for the part cost?
The RGB are all connected in series. If you have only 6 LEDs are working, that means you have a poor connection the 6th and the 7th LED. Reflow, the 6th and 7th LED will fix the issue. Unlike most PCB in this hobby, this is a PCB with the gold immersion surface finish. It's more expensive for sure and technically it's better.

I give a lot of leeway to group buy runners. Joined Round 6 like two years ago; still waiting on two Model Fs I purchased the beginning of 2016; and generally have no complaints about group buys that deliver the product advertised. 

I ordered four Exents. I went all in on SA Oblivion, SA Dasher, and GMK Laser specifically for these Exents. I have soldered quite a few boards, and I've also had issues with PCBs in the past that consumed a lot of my time and energy, and some PCBs I couldn't save.

I'm excited about this project, and I'm glad you guys have been working hard to bring it to fruition. However, if I receive four malfunctioning PCBs, I'll be contesting the original payment through my credit card company. I just don't personally have the time or energy to troubleshoot an issue that exists out of the box. It could be a simple fix, but it's possible and even probable based on the experience of the user here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520913#msg2520913) that troubleshooting may fail and require additional time and energy to diagnose. You are selling a product, and you should deliver that product, not a malfunctioning version of that product. I don't expect everyone to feel this way, and that's fine.

Please fix the PCBs yourselves before shipment, regardless of the delay caused. I hope that doesn't come off poorly, but I also don't think that this is at all an unreasonable position to take. Either way, thanks for the time and effort you have been putting into this group buy, and please continue to put in that same time and effort until the buy is complete.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 21 November 2017, 22:36:02
So how does this work, I figure out how many dead LEDs I need to replace and you mail them to me? Or do you just compensate me for the part cost?
The RGB are all connected in series. If you have only 6 LEDs are working, that means you have a poor connection the 6th and the 7th LED. Reflow, the 6th and 7th LED will fix the issue. Unlike most PCB in this hobby, this is a PCB with the gold immersion surface finish. It's more expensive for sure and technically it's better.

I give a lot of leeway to group buy runners. Joined Round 6 like two years ago; still waiting on two Model Fs I purchased the beginning of 2016; and generally have no complaints about group buys that deliver the product advertised. 

I ordered four Exents. I went all in on SA Oblivion, SA Dasher, and GMK Laser specifically for these Exents. I have soldered quite a few boards, and I've also had issues with PCBs in the past that consumed a lot of my time and energy, and some PCBs I couldn't save.

I'm excited about this project, and I'm glad you guys have been working hard to bring it to fruition. However, if I receive four malfunctioning PCBs, I'll be contesting the original payment through my credit card company. I just don't personally have the time or energy to troubleshoot an issue that exists out of the box. It could be a simple fix, but it's possible and even probable based on the experience of the user here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520913#msg2520913) that troubleshooting may fail and require additional time and energy to diagnose. You are selling a product, and you should deliver that product, not a malfunctioning version of that product. I don't expect everyone to feel this way, and that's fine.

Please fix the PCBs yourselves before shipment, regardless of the delay caused. I hope that doesn't come off poorly, but I also don't think that this is at all an unreasonable position to take. Either way, thanks for the time and effort you have been putting into this group buy, and please continue to put in that same time and effort until the buy is complete.

This, I feel like, should be the position of the entire community.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Tue, 21 November 2017, 22:53:23
So how does this work, I figure out how many dead LEDs I need to replace and you mail them to me? Or do you just compensate me for the part cost?
The RGB are all connected in series. If you have only 6 LEDs are working, that means you have a poor connection the 6th and the 7th LED. Reflow, the 6th and 7th LED will fix the issue. Unlike most PCB in this hobby, this is a PCB with the gold immersion surface finish. It's more expensive for sure and technically it's better.

I give a lot of leeway to group buy runners. Joined Round 6 like two years ago; still waiting on two Model Fs I purchased the beginning of 2016; and generally have no complaints about group buys that deliver the product advertised. 

I ordered four Exents. I went all in on SA Oblivion, SA Dasher, and GMK Laser specifically for these Exents. I have soldered quite a few boards, and I've also had issues with PCBs in the past that consumed a lot of my time and energy, and some PCBs I couldn't save.

I'm excited about this project, and I'm glad you guys have been working hard to bring it to fruition. However, if I receive four malfunctioning PCBs, I'll be contesting the original payment through my credit card company. I just don't personally have the time or energy to troubleshoot an issue that exists out of the box. It could be a simple fix, but it's possible and even probable based on the experience of the user here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520913#msg2520913) that troubleshooting may fail and require additional time and energy to diagnose. You are selling a product, and you should deliver that product, not a malfunctioning version of that product. I don't expect everyone to feel this way, and that's fine.

Please fix the PCBs yourselves before shipment, regardless of the delay caused. I hope that doesn't come off poorly, but I also don't think that this is at all an unreasonable position to take. Either way, thanks for the time and effort you have been putting into this group buy, and please continue to put in that same time and effort until the buy is complete.
agreed
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wongie on Wed, 22 November 2017, 03:21:22
Can orders that haven't been shipped out yet have these issues resolved first by you guys even if it means putting that order to the back of the dispatch queue?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 22 November 2017, 03:38:02
Managed to pick up some of the machined bottoms before the factory closes. Will send them for anodizing on Friday. About 50% more are still in the law few processes of machining. Meanwhile, we are yet to hear back from the anodizing guy regarding the gray tops.

(https://i.imgur.com/GLWE7i5m.jpg)

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 22 November 2017, 03:38:57
Can orders that haven't been shipped out yet have these issues resolved first by you guys even if it means putting that order to the back of the dispatch queue?
For the orders that haven’t been picked up. We will see what we can do.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 22 November 2017, 04:33:00
Can orders that haven't been shipped out yet have these issues resolved first by you guys even if it means putting that order to the back of the dispatch queue?
For the orders that haven’t been picked up. We will see what we can do.


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Yeah it would be nice. I am waiting for dark gray + alu bottom, if you could qc and fix the pcb related to this order and be sure it is 100% okay before it would be way better as we all assume you have time for this (I mean few solder to redo, we can do but, but if something went wrong you can act more quickly to fix it or replce the pcb than we can do after! And having everything for the keb with a grilled pcb would be VERY sad .. !)

Better wait a little and have it 100% opertional
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Wed, 22 November 2017, 04:53:12
Can orders that haven't been shipped out yet have these issues resolved first by you guys even if it means putting that order to the back of the dispatch queue?
For the orders that haven’t been picked up. We will see what we can do.


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I personally don't care to wait anymore, can you just ship me mine?  I'll deal with the pcb myself.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 22 November 2017, 08:57:38
Are you planning on doing anything for those of us who's orders were shipped before being made aware at all of the PCB issues? Could you at least release the PCB files so that when we need to make new PCBs for our Exents we don't have to reverse engineer the thing, or are those files already available somewhere? Also, I've seen exactly zero information on how to customize the layout on this board, could we get some details on that?

However apparently small the issue with the PCBs, I find it incredibly insulting that we had to find out from a customer. Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 22 November 2017, 09:11:11
Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.

I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 22 November 2017, 09:21:56
Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.

I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(

He absolutely is. Him most of all, perhaps.


You'll say Rama is just the designer, and I'll say how did we end up with our current leadership? Did Rama just say "hey whoever wants this, take it" or did he actively choose them? Either way, he can't be trusted to select capable leadership for the production of his designs. His name, attached to a project, is rendered meaningless.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Rogerwyf on Wed, 22 November 2017, 09:23:54
Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.

I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(

:'( I feel sorry for Rama
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Rogerwyf on Wed, 22 November 2017, 09:25:11
Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.

I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(

He absolutely is. Him most of all, perhaps.

 :cry:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 22 November 2017, 09:36:02
Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.

I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(

He absolutely is. Him most of all, perhaps.


You'll say Rama is just the designer, and I'll say how did we end up with our current leadership? Did Rama just say "hey whoever wants this, take it" or did he actively choose them? Either way, he can't be trusted to select capable leadership for the production of his designs. His name, attached to a project, is rendered meaningless.

To answer your questions:

Juahenza commissioned a design with Rama. It dates back a lot further than you think (originally called the M67, and first publicly teased August 2016). Juahenza chose Rama, not the other way around. Rama has absolutely nothing to do with this apart from the design.

I think the basis of most of your comments has been pretty reasonable, but grouping Rama with the actual buy runners is wrong.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 22 November 2017, 09:53:03


To answer your questions:

Juahenza commissioned a design with Rama. It dates back a lot further than you think (originally called the M67, and first publicly teased August 2016). Juahenza chose Rama, not the other way around. Rama has absolutely nothing to do with this apart from the design.

I think the basis of most of your comments has been pretty reasonable, but grouping Rama with the actual buy runners is wrong.

If RAMA was so hands-off with the buy, he probably should have objected to being included in all the marketing.

(http://i.imgur.com/aU4BL9F.jpg)

I mean for ****s sake, RAMA is engraved on the bottom. Let's call a spade a spade here: all these guys wanted their names on it because they thought it was going to be a slam dunk. Now that it's not, Sherry and RAMA especially want to separate themselves from it.

Doesn't work that way. In the future keep in mind if it bears your name, people will remember you for it good or bad.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: catweewee on Wed, 22 November 2017, 09:59:24
Are you planning on doing anything for those of us who's orders were shipped before being made aware at all of the PCB issues? Could you at least release the PCB files so that when we need to make new PCBs for our Exents we don't have to reverse engineer the thing, or are those files already available somewhere? Also, I've seen exactly zero information on how to customize the layout on this board, could we get some details on that?

However apparently small the issue with the PCBs, I find it incredibly insulting that we had to find out from a customer. Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.

The underglow smd issue is pretty common. Most common cause of it is a cold solder which happens quite often. Ive had it on winkeyless pcbs and leeku pcbs.

You dont need to go as far as to make your own pcbs.

As for customizing the layout, the pcb uses winkeyless’s bootmapper firmware. Im on my phone right now but you can google tutorials on how to customise it.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 22 November 2017, 10:02:42
Managed to pick up some of the machined bottoms before the factory closes. Will send them for anodizing on Friday. About 50% more are still in the law few processes of machining. Meanwhile, we are yet to hear back from the anodizing guy regarding the gray tops.

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Look beautiful! Thanks for the update. I hope the anodizing will go smooth on the dark gray.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 22 November 2017, 10:49:19
I wasn't aware that this design was commissioned from Rama by Juahenza. This is a grey area, to be sure, though it doesn't necessarily change what I said. By having his name attached to this project, all projects to which his name are attached are suspect, regardless of his connection (or lack thereof) to the group buy leaders. To be a little clearer, referring to my last comment, his name carries no weight. We cannot be comfortable saying "it has Rama's name attached to the project, so it's gonna go great."

So, regardless of the circumstances, in my eyes Rama has severely damaged his reputation. This isn't personal, and there is no question that he is a hell of an artist, but his name carries no weight in a project. Not anymore, at least.


@catweewee, thanks for the information regarding programmability. I'll look into that. And yes, I understand that the SMD issue is common and/or minor, but it doesn't change that the information was withheld by the GB leadership, and that most or all of us will be receiving imperfect PCBs. That is inexcusable.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 22 November 2017, 11:39:00
Cool story bro  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: catweewee on Wed, 22 November 2017, 11:48:47
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171122/df7d80d098683933478e337e965bbe51.jpg)

My PCB is fine, so I don't think all PCBs are effected.

I also wrote a quick guide on programming the Exent.

https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper






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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 22 November 2017, 12:05:21
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171122/df7d80d098683933478e337e965bbe51.jpg)


My PCB is fine, so I don't think all PCBs are effected.

I also wrote a quick guide on programming the Exent.

https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper






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Thank you Cat.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 22 November 2017, 12:12:42
Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.

I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(

He absolutely is. Him most of all, perhaps.


You'll say Rama is just the designer, and I'll say how did we end up with our current leadership? Did Rama just say "hey whoever wants this, take it" or did he actively choose them? Either way, he can't be trusted to select capable leadership for the production of his designs. His name, attached to a project, is rendered meaningless.

To answer your questions:

Juahenza commissioned a design with Rama. It dates back a lot further than you think (originally called the M67, and first publicly teased August 2016). Juahenza chose Rama, not the other way around. Rama has absolutely nothing to do with this apart from the design.

I think the basis of most of your comments has been pretty reasonable, but grouping Rama with the actual buy runners is wrong.

Absolutely. Stating RAMA is the one to blame here is pretty ridiculous, though I also agree that one should be careful what projects they associate themselves with because they'll be held accountable whether they like it or not but how do you even know whom you can trust, really? Virtually everyone's had issues, everyone will have issues; it's just about magnitude at this point. He made a decision to allow them to use his design, people with no real issues in their dealings prior to this, saying him above all should be to blame... Yea.

What are artists supposed to do, then, realistically? RAMA had Massdrop deal with his M10 project for him and they ****ed it up so badly that he's now running the M6 by himself instead of relying on an actual vendor. He has a ton of cool designs for boards that haven't yet seen the light of day (M36, his HHKB case, etc) and without help he probably can't push them all out for us to gobble up. Are people supposed to just fend for themselves because associating with literally anyone else may damage their reputation beyond what you find reasonable, PancakeMSTR? If everyone is discredited as soon as something like this happens we no longer have a community, really, we just have people selling their own things.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 22 November 2017, 12:45:48
First of all, Rama gets a big point in my book for disassociating with massdrop.

- "Everyone's had issues, everyone will have issues": Yes, if you are referring to every project encountering problems. That is how the world works, and that will never change. It's how those problems are solved, and how the project as a whole is run that counts.

- RAMA absolutely cannot produce his designs without help, in one form or another. We all need help. Collaboration is integral to success (/corporate speak).

You know, Vigrith, it's a tough problem, really it is. How do you select a reliable production team? It's very hard.  Frankly I'm not even sure how I would approach the problem.

Our problem is the same as that of everyone else, we want to produce high quality goods cheaply and quickly. A key difference is that we don't have a big industry, or market, backing us.

And it is such.a.tough.problem. But if we want our keyboard world to be as good as it can be, we need to start imitating industry as much as we can. And we are trying to do that already, I know, with some success even.

But one of the key things is to truly run a project with a collaborative team. Something is wrong if we can say "oh he was just the designer, don't blame things on him" or "don't blame the leadership, the factory got it wrong." It means there are rifts and cracks within the team that must be closed. Every part of the group should not only care about, but have a stake in, how the project as a whole is performing.

You said it yourself, and I can't imagine anyone disagrees with the assessment that pretty much every group buy ever run has encountered serious problems. Well you know what? That's excellent, because we can learn from those problems. It means we have a wealth of information which we can use to course correct our future projects.

Fundamentally, we need to examine all the problems that have occurred in past group buys, and avoid them in the future.

Otherwise, what are we doing? We are just doing the same thing and expecting a different result, hoping for excellence by sheer probability. That approach is not sustainable and has no future.

For the record, I am not suggesting a universal, complete, and effective solution. What we as the keyboard community try to do is exceptionally difficult, and I do not know what the perfect path is and I assure you that if I somehow assumed leadership of the entire community I would make more mistakes on the first day than you could count on all your fingers and toes.

But, I've made my suggestion: Determine what's gone wrong, and don't repeat the mistakes.


As for RAMA, there is simply no going back from the reputation damage done by this project. That's not to say he couldn't repair his reputation, but the damage is done. And I will say it again, this is simply because his name attached to a project is no guarantee it will go, I don't know, smoothly I guess, as evinced specifically by the Exent. I was previously operating under the impression that his name meant something, and now I've seen that it does not, and that's the end of it. Plain and simple.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Wed, 22 November 2017, 12:53:40
EXENT SMD LED REPAIR GUIDE (https://imgur.com/a/qaj50)

Please read this if you have received an Exent kit, or a tracking number for an Exent kit.

Sorry this was not published earlier.

_____________

Please fix the PCBs yourselves before shipment, regardless of the delay caused.

Can orders that haven't been shipped out yet have these issues resolved first by you guys even if it means putting that order to the back of the dispatch queue?

Having your blessing to allocate additional time towards further QC is much appreciated and does relieve some pressure. After all, the boards were rushed out for a reason.

The challenge will be differentiating those who want their boards hand-checked from those who no longer want to wait (almost an equal split judging from the forum posts & PM's I've received). This is something we will have to figure out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 22 November 2017, 12:56:54
Thank you for posting an SMD repair guide. That is very useful.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Wed, 22 November 2017, 13:25:15
Since these are shipping, I'll start work on the Ortho PCB variant. Who else wanted one? Features and price kinda depend on interest. So far I'm making a simple 1u grid, onboard controller, and no backlighting. Might offer some 2u spacebar and numpad options and backlighting if there's enough interest.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: neon_tom on Wed, 22 November 2017, 13:33:01
Since these are shipping, I'll start work on the Ortho PCB variant. Who else wanted one? Features and price kinda depend on interest. So far I'm making a simple 1u grid, onboard controller, and no backlighting. Might offer some 2u spacebar and numpad options and backlighting if there's enough interest.

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I like the sound of this. +1 for 2u spacebar.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Wed, 22 November 2017, 15:22:56
Was thinking of supporting these basic layouts:

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/67ff3b23664de587b64d96b123185b2e

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Wed, 22 November 2017, 15:40:56
EXENT SMD LED REPAIR GUIDE (https://imgur.com/a/qaj50)

Please read this if you have received an Exent kit, or a tracking number for an Exent kit.

Sorry this was not published earlier.

_____________

Please fix the PCBs yourselves before shipment, regardless of the delay caused.

Can orders that haven't been shipped out yet have these issues resolved first by you guys even if it means putting that order to the back of the dispatch queue?

Having your blessing to allocate additional time towards further QC is much appreciated and does relieve some pressure. After all, the boards were rushed out for a reason.

The challenge will be differentiating those who want their boards hand-checked from those who no longer want to wait (almost an equal split judging from the forum posts & PM's I've received). This is something we will have to figure out.

Thanks for the guide, will come in useful if somethings not right when I receive my board.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 22 November 2017, 15:43:16
Since these are shipping, I'll start work on the Ortho PCB variant. Who else wanted one? Features and price kinda depend on interest. So far I'm making a simple 1u grid, onboard controller, and no backlighting. Might offer some 2u spacebar and numpad options and backlighting if there's enough interest.

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I suggest something similar to the XD75, which is pretty flexible in terms of layout, including two split ortho 'halves' with a numpad in the middle, as well as placements for a few different 2u spacebar options. I think this would offer a lot of flexibility (basically just one large grid with a few different positions possible for 2u spacebars on the bottom row.

@juahenza and co: would it be possible for you guys to share the plate files? Not only would it be useful for making ortho plates when this plans out, but it will also be useful for those of us planning to make our own exotic plate options (perhaps polycarbonate or CFRP plates. I know I can wait for my kit to get here, measure the plate and draw up my own, but for the sake of accuracy it would be great to get it straight from the source.

Also, it seems all of us who bought the premium kit seems to have drawn the short straw and will have to wait a lot longer for the keysets and such. Any reasonable estimates on when boards will start shipping out for us premium kits?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Wed, 22 November 2017, 15:45:38
Since these are shipping, I'll start work on the Ortho PCB variant. Who else wanted one? Features and price kinda depend on interest. So far I'm making a simple 1u grid, onboard controller, and no backlighting. Might offer some 2u spacebar and numpad options and backlighting if there's enough interest.

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I suggest something similar to the XD75, which is pretty flexible in terms of layout, including two split ortho 'halves' with a numpad in the middle, as well as placements for a few different 2u spacebar options. I think this would offer a lot of flexibility (basically just one large grid with a few different positions possible for 2u spacebars on the bottom row.

@juahenza and co: would it be possible for you guys to share the plate files? Not only would it be useful for making ortho plates when this plans out, but it will also be useful for those of us planning to make our own exotic plate options (perhaps polycarbonate or CFRP plates. I know I can wait for my kit to get here, measure the plate and draw up my own, but for the sake of accuracy it would be great to get it straight from the source.

Also, it seems all of us who bought the premium kit seems to have drawn the short straw and will have to wait a lot longer for the keysets and such. Any reasonable estimates on when boards will start shipping out for us premium kits?
I have the plate file straight from Rama. I'll ask him if he's ok with me sharing :)

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Wed, 22 November 2017, 15:46:44
No offense whatsoever meant, but could you take the conversation about creating a different PCB for the Extent into a separate IC thread so we don't lose the conversation here about all the various things going on with the current GB for Extent itself? Would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 22 November 2017, 16:33:58
No offense whatsoever meant, but could you take the conversation about creating a different PCB for the Extent into a separate IC thread so we don't lose the conversation here about all the various things going on with the current GB for Extent itself? Would be much appreciated.

It's not like there are going to be hundreds of replies, creating another thread would make a lot of people miss the ortho stuff.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 22 November 2017, 18:10:01
Was thinking of supporting these basic layouts:

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/67ff3b23664de587b64d96b123185b2e

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Send me a PM, I will provide you with the files required. Thanks


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 22 November 2017, 19:00:04


To answer your questions:

Juahenza commissioned a design with Rama. It dates back a lot further than you think (originally called the M67, and first publicly teased August 2016). Juahenza chose Rama, not the other way around. Rama has absolutely nothing to do with this apart from the design.

I think the basis of most of your comments has been pretty reasonable, but grouping Rama with the actual buy runners is wrong.

If RAMA was so hands-off with the buy, he probably should have objected to being included in all the marketing.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/aU4BL9F.jpg)


I mean for ****s sake, RAMA is engraved on the bottom. Let's call a spade a spade here: all these guys wanted their names on it because they thought it was going to be a slam dunk. Now that it's not, Sherry and RAMA especially want to separate themselves from it.

Doesn't work that way. In the future keep in mind if it bears your name, people will remember you for it good or bad.


Actually, I had nothing to do with that, I handed off the original design, it was modified and all the names where added. Past the initial design I had no input whatsoever. I presented a concept, then it was taken.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 22 November 2017, 20:51:44


To answer your questions:

Juahenza commissioned a design with Rama. It dates back a lot further than you think (originally called the M67, and first publicly teased August 2016). Juahenza chose Rama, not the other way around. Rama has absolutely nothing to do with this apart from the design.

I think the basis of most of your comments has been pretty reasonable, but grouping Rama with the actual buy runners is wrong.

If RAMA was so hands-off with the buy, he probably should have objected to being included in all the marketing.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/aU4BL9F.jpg)


I mean for ****s sake, RAMA is engraved on the bottom. Let's call a spade a spade here: all these guys wanted their names on it because they thought it was going to be a slam dunk. Now that it's not, Sherry and RAMA especially want to separate themselves from it.

Doesn't work that way. In the future keep in mind if it bears your name, people will remember you for it good or bad.


Actually, I had nothing to do with that, I handed off the original design, it was modified and all the names where added. Past the initial design I had no input whatsoever. I presented a concept, then it was taken.

Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KingRama on Wed, 22 November 2017, 21:03:36


To answer your questions:

Juahenza commissioned a design with Rama. It dates back a lot further than you think (originally called the M67, and first publicly teased August 2016). Juahenza chose Rama, not the other way around. Rama has absolutely nothing to do with this apart from the design.

I think the basis of most of your comments has been pretty reasonable, but grouping Rama with the actual buy runners is wrong.

If RAMA was so hands-off with the buy, he probably should have objected to being included in all the marketing.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/aU4BL9F.jpg)


I mean for ****s sake, RAMA is engraved on the bottom. Let's call a spade a spade here: all these guys wanted their names on it because they thought it was going to be a slam dunk. Now that it's not, Sherry and RAMA especially want to separate themselves from it.

Doesn't work that way. In the future keep in mind if it bears your name, people will remember you for it good or bad.


Actually, I had nothing to do with that, I handed off the original design, it was modified and all the names where added. Past the initial design I had no input whatsoever. I presented a concept, then it was taken.

Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...

My involvement, since the beginning has always been the same, nothing has changed - there's nothing to contest. I designed the original board, that's my involvement  ???
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 22 November 2017, 21:05:27
Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...

Designers typically aren't partners on a project, just contributors that submit their design and then are not longer involved.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 22 November 2017, 21:07:07
Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...

It might have something to do with not wanting to be a **** and publicly dissociate (or something akin that) himself from a project that tons of people were/are excited about. Easy to talk **** about someone's decision making after the fact, keeping things civil even when it goes south behind the curtains shows a high level of professionalism - needless to say throwing others under the bus does not. He designed the board this was based upon. That's what's always been said to the best of my knowledge, from the beginning.

Being sly and taking jabs like that when you have absolutely zero knowledge of what actually happened is not only unfair but it also makes you look silly. Not everyone changes team whenever **** hits the proverbial fan, assuming that's the case is more telling of your own personal experiences and your character than it does of what should be the norm. Believe it or not some people still properly weigh their decisions before acting rashly and try and do what's right.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 22 November 2017, 23:25:25
"Made by TARO." It's right in the title.

Back in January, this was supposed to be some sort of supergroup a la Cream making a great 65%. Things go south, and all the sudden it's "Hey man, it's not my baby."

How can you honestly look at the opening posts and the marketing materials and not come to the conclusion that all these guys are involved?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 22 November 2017, 23:31:44
Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...

It might have something to do with not wanting to be a **** and publicly dissociate (or something akin that) himself from a project that tons of people were/are excited about. Easy to talk **** about someone's decision making after the fact, keeping things civil even when it goes south behind the curtains shows a high level of professionalism - needless to say throwing others under the bus does not. He designed the board this was based upon. That's what's always been said to the best of my knowledge, from the beginning.

Being sly and taking jabs like that when you have absolutely zero knowledge of what actually happened is not only unfair but it also makes you look silly. Not everyone changes team whenever **** hits the proverbial fan, assuming that's the case is more telling of your own personal experiences and your character than it does of what should be the norm. Believe it or not some people still properly weigh their decisions before acting rashly and try and do what's right.

Except...that's kinda what it looks like is happening. A marked disassociation. "My role was just barely this tiny..." etc.

And still, it changes exactly **** all.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Wed, 22 November 2017, 23:39:47
Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...

It might have something to do with not wanting to be a **** and publicly dissociate (or something akin that) himself from a project that tons of people were/are excited about. Easy to talk **** about someone's decision making after the fact, keeping things civil even when it goes south behind the curtains shows a high level of professionalism - needless to say throwing others under the bus does not. He designed the board this was based upon. That's what's always been said to the best of my knowledge, from the beginning.

Being sly and taking jabs like that when you have absolutely zero knowledge of what actually happened is not only unfair but it also makes you look silly. Not everyone changes team whenever **** hits the proverbial fan, assuming that's the case is more telling of your own personal experiences and your character than it does of what should be the norm. Believe it or not some people still properly weigh their decisions before acting rashly and try and do what's right.

Except...that's kinda what it looks like is happening. A marked disassociation. "My role was just barely this tiny..." etc.

And still, it changes exactly **** all.

I share your concerns. The issues are being addressed. This line of commentary is no longer constructive. Let's wait for continued updates.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 23 November 2017, 00:25:57
Point is, you didn't contest your involvement 11 months ago. I wonder what changed between then and now...

It might have something to do with not wanting to be a **** and publicly dissociate (or something akin that) himself from a project that tons of people were/are excited about. Easy to talk **** about someone's decision making after the fact, keeping things civil even when it goes south behind the curtains shows a high level of professionalism - needless to say throwing others under the bus does not. He designed the board this was based upon. That's what's always been said to the best of my knowledge, from the beginning.

Being sly and taking jabs like that when you have absolutely zero knowledge of what actually happened is not only unfair but it also makes you look silly. Not everyone changes team whenever **** hits the proverbial fan, assuming that's the case is more telling of your own personal experiences and your character than it does of what should be the norm. Believe it or not some people still properly weigh their decisions before acting rashly and try and do what's right.

Except...that's kinda what it looks like is happening. A marked disassociation. "My role was just barely this tiny..." etc.

And still, it changes exactly **** all.

In all seriousness do you understand what a designer does? RAMA isn’t a pcb Engineer. He probably wasn’t even involved with the pcb process to begin with. He designed keyboard case/plate.

You act like there’s is some concept of a “RAMA approved” pcb. There isn’t. Designers are responsible for how things look and generally function/assemble. RAMAs part of the pcb process would simply be to provide requirements. X layouts. X dimensions. Etc. 

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 23 November 2017, 00:31:40
In all seriousness do you understand what a designer does? RAMA isn’t a pcb Engineer. He probably wasn’t even involved with the pcb process to begin with. He designed keyboard case/plate.

You act like there’s is some concept of a “RAMA approved” pcb. There isn’t. Designers are responsible for how things look and generally function/assemble. RAMAs part of the pcb process would simply be to provide requirements. X layouts. X dimensions. Etc. 

More like "RAMA make a case that works around this PCB kthxbai"  :D

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 23 November 2017, 00:39:10
In all seriousness do you understand what a designer does? RAMA isn’t a pcb Engineer. He probably wasn’t even involved with the pcb process to begin with. He designed keyboard case/plate.

You act like there’s is some concept of a “RAMA approved” pcb. There isn’t. Designers are responsible for how things look and generally function/assemble. RAMAs part of the pcb process would simply be to provide requirements. X layouts. X dimensions. Etc. 

More like "RAMA make a case that works around this PCB kthxbai"  :D

You are missing the point - I don't know whether it's intentional or not.

RAMA can (and should have) taken a greater interest in the project that bears his name. They all should have.

Could RAMA have designed the PCB? No. No one is saying he should have. RAMA should have said though: "Hey, this project has my name on it, and I have a reputation for perfection. I don't want to be associated with a project shipping defective PCBs. Please correct prior to shipment."

You four have created your respective brands - and they obviously have value or Juahenza wouldn't have felt the need to plaster them everywhere. Take better care of them.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 23 November 2017, 01:05:29
In all seriousness do you understand what a designer does? RAMA isn’t a pcb Engineer. He probably wasn’t even involved with the pcb process to begin with. He designed keyboard case/plate.

You act like there’s is some concept of a “RAMA approved” pcb. There isn’t. Designers are responsible for how things look and generally function/assemble. RAMAs part of the pcb process would simply be to provide requirements. X layouts. X dimensions. Etc. 

More like "RAMA make a case that works around this PCB kthxbai"  :D

You are missing the point - I don't know whether it's intentional or not.

RAMA can (and should have) taken a greater interest in the project that bears his name. They all should have.

Could RAMA have designed the PCB? No. No one is saying he should have. RAMA should have said though: "Hey, this project has my name on it, and I have a reputation for perfection. I don't want to be associated with a project shipping defective PCBs. Please correct prior to shipment."

You four have created your respective brands - and they obviously have value or Juahenza wouldn't have felt the need to plaster them everywhere. Take better care of them.

So now we want designers doing QA on PCBs?

What exactly do you think RAMA could have done to change this current situation? The DESIGN of the PCB is sound if it really is fixed with a reflow. What would make you think the designer would be involved now? Especially if the other peoples statements are true and this was was a commission. RAMA probably wasn't even aware some PCBs had issues until you started name dropping him. And regardless, what is it you think he could do? Someone bought a design from him. They would have no obligation to notify him of any issues to begin with, but even if they had, do you think he could just magically demand that they fix the PCBs "OR ELSE!!!" and then situation fixed just "cause RAMA said so"?

I do however think RAMA would do himself a service if he created a separate label to differentiate commissions from stuff he sells himself. I would expect him to hold a great deal more responsibility for the M6-A. I'm not actually sure which way M65 goes. I dunno if RAMA was involved throughout or if JChan did the more of it or what, regardless, it would benefit rama to make it more clear what products hes involved with end to end and what products are just commission designs to avoid situations like this.

But again, I think you like the other guy are still not understanding what a designer does.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 23 November 2017, 01:37:29
In all seriousness do you understand what a designer does? RAMA isn’t a pcb Engineer. He probably wasn’t even involved with the pcb process to begin with. He designed keyboard case/plate.

You act like there’s is some concept of a “RAMA approved” pcb. There isn’t. Designers are responsible for how things look and generally function/assemble. RAMAs part of the pcb process would simply be to provide requirements. X layouts. X dimensions. Etc. 

More like "RAMA make a case that works around this PCB kthxbai"  :D

You are missing the point - I don't know whether it's intentional or not.

RAMA can (and should have) taken a greater interest in the project that bears his name. They all should have.

Could RAMA have designed the PCB? No. No one is saying he should have. RAMA should have said though: "Hey, this project has my name on it, and I have a reputation for perfection. I don't want to be associated with a project shipping defective PCBs. Please correct prior to shipment."

You four have created your respective brands - and they obviously have value or Juahenza wouldn't have felt the need to plaster them everywhere. Take better care of them.

So now we want designers doing QA on PCBs?

What exactly do you think RAMA could have done to change this current situation? The DESIGN of the PCB is sound if it really is fixed with a reflow. What would make you think the designer would be involved now? Especially if the other peoples statements are true and this was was a commission. RAMA probably wasn't even aware some PCBs had issues until you started name dropping him. And regardless, what is it you think he could do? Someone bought a design from him. They would have no obligation to notify him of any issues to begin with, but even if they had, do you think he could just magically demand that they fix the PCBs "OR ELSE!!!" and then situation fixed just "cause RAMA said so"?

I do however think RAMA would do himself a service if he created a separate label to differentiate commissions from stuff he sells himself. I would expect him to hold a great deal more responsibility for the M6-A. I'm not actually sure which way M65 goes. I dunno if RAMA was involved throughout or if JChan did the more of it or what, regardless, it would benefit rama to make it more clear what products hes involved with end to end and what products are just commission designs to avoid situations like this.

But again, I think you like the other guy are still not understanding what a designer does.

I understand perfectly what a designer does, thank you. My point, which you are I assume at this point being willfully ignorant of, is that Juahenza represented these people (TGR, Aconic, RAMA, Sherry) to be more involved in the project than you obviously were at this point.

I, and I know others based on the comments, assumed made by TARO meant you four were involved in the GB. Clearly based on the responses during this post-mortem that is not the case but we shouldn't have needed to get to month 11 to make that determination.

You touched on the point I'm making, but then you dismiss it out of hand - and I really wonder if maybe it is you who is not getting it. If you allow your name to be put on something, you become associated with that thing. That is the reality we live in. If the marketing materials said "Design by RAMA." I would agree with you wholeheartedly. But let's look at Juahenza's own words:

This will be the most exciting keyboard of 2017, which grew from a 2-person project, to a collaborative effort of a group of keyboard hobbyists. At the time of writing, the CNC machine in the factory are working hard on the first Exent prototype. Excited as a kid on Christmas day, I am proud to share with you, Exent.

Combine that with "Made by TARO" and the logos of the four brands on every marketing picture and engraved on the bottom of every unit and I don't see how you can honestly claim that I'm failing to understand the situation. The reality is that the involvement of at least one, probably two partners is grossly overstated.

Where in my post did I say I wanted RAMA doing QC on PCBs? Let's please keep the straw men out of the discussion.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 23 November 2017, 01:40:13
Where in my post did I say I wanted RAMA doing QC on PCBs? Let's please keep the straw men out of the discussion.

When you assumed RAMA was somehow a PCB whisperer and KNEW there was an issue with the PCB to begin with.

EDIT: To be more clear... QC is how you determine that a PCB is flawed. You are holding RAMA responsible for QUALITY CONTROL which means you expect him to be handing the QC of PCBs. The design IS NOT flawed (based on the provided info) and not all boards are flawed. This is not a design issue. It's not as if RAMA is there shipping them out. He has no power to stop anything. You are wanting to him to have done something he does not have the ability to do. "If you don't fix the PCB's I'll never sell you a design again" is not really very threatening. And again, you are making an assumption that anyone told him they were flawed to begin with.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 23 November 2017, 01:58:05
Where in my post did I say I wanted RAMA doing QC on PCBs? Let's please keep the straw men out of the discussion.

When you assumed RAMA was somehow a PCB whisperer and KNEW there was an issue with the PCB to begin with.

EDIT: To be more clear... QC is how you determine that a PCB is flawed. You are holding RAMA responsible for QUALITY CONTROL which means you expect him to be handing the QC of PCBs. The design IS NOT flawed (based on the provided info) and not all boards are flawed. This is not a design issue. It's not as if RAMA is there shipping them out. He has no power to stop anything. You are wanting to him to have done something he does not have the ability to do.

Me: The structure of the organization doesn't match how it's described.
You: But you can't hold RAMA responsible for a PCB issue, he didn't make it.
Me: I know. My point is that the marketing materials make it appear he's actually involved with the GB.
You: But RAMA can't QC the PCB, he didn't have anything to do with it.

I am not contesting RAMA's actual role within the project. I am pointing out that a 4 group collaborative effort, really is not.

If this were a true collaboration, the 4 members would've discussed and agreed on a course of action regarding the PCBs that need some level of rework.

"If you don't fix the PCB's I'll never sell you a design again" is not really very threatening. And again, you are making an assumption that anyone told him they were flawed to begin with.

But that's exactly what should happen. Why would any business person continue to do business with someone who damages their brand and reputation?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 23 November 2017, 02:45:51
I am not contesting RAMA's actual role within the project. I am pointing out that a 4 group collaborative effort, really is not.

If this were a true collaboration, the 4 members would've discussed and agreed on a course of action regarding the PCBs that need some level of rework.

By your rationale, all collaborations are equal in authority, effort, financial investment, profit distribution, responsibilities and accountability.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 23 November 2017, 07:07:04
RAMA had Massdrop deal with his M10 project for him and they ****ed it up so badly that he's now running the M6 by himself instead of relying on an actual vendor.

How did Massdrop mess up with that one?  The only thing I can see is the configurator issue, i.e.

Quote
I posted on RAMA facebook page. They said that the software developer went awol and they will be releasing something new to replace the configurator.

From RAMA:
Quote
Been trying to get into contact with Machine Industries for the past few weeks with no avail, hoping he touches base soon with an update for us.

So I'm not sure how Massdrop messed it up in this case- unless they were the ones that recommended MI?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Thu, 23 November 2017, 12:32:29
Hi There!

Is there a status of shipment by order? Like in a google sheet or something?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 23 November 2017, 14:42:59
Looking up the tracking number paypal sent me still yields no results.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 23 November 2017, 15:09:39
Looking up the tracking number paypal sent me still yields no results.
Just checked, it does. PMed you the tracking in case you didn’t have the right one.

Thanks


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Thu, 23 November 2017, 15:26:54
Any idea when we will hear back about the grey kits?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Thu, 23 November 2017, 15:45:40
Looking up the tracking number paypal sent me still yields no results.
Just checked, it does. PMed you the tracking in case you didn’t have the right one.

Thanks


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Hi @yuktsi!

Is there a way for us to find out the status of our order? I sent a PM, but did not get a response.

Many thanks! =)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Thu, 23 November 2017, 18:40:36
Also just curious how well the grey kits are holding up. Worst case scenario if nothing can be done to fix what are our options?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Thu, 23 November 2017, 23:34:16
Also, it seems all of us who bought the premium kit seems to have drawn the short straw and will have to wait a lot longer for the keysets and such. Any reasonable estimates on when boards will start shipping out for us premium kits?

I'm also interested in getting a reasonable date for premium kits (with keyset) to start shipping. Has anyone heard anything?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 24 November 2017, 00:09:20
Also, it seems all of us who bought the premium kit seems to have drawn the short straw and will have to wait a lot longer for the keysets and such. Any reasonable estimates on when boards will start shipping out for us premium kits?

I'm also interested in getting a reasonable date for premium kits (with keyset) to start shipping. Has anyone heard anything?

I think it is all going to be dependent on what color/features you got. No one has heard anything though
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Fri, 24 November 2017, 07:02:00
Have you received all the alu bottoms yet and are they going to be anodized soon?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 24 November 2017, 09:57:48
Looking up the tracking number paypal sent me still yields no results.
Just checked, it does. PMed you the tracking in case you didn’t have the right one.

Thanks


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Finally got it figured out. Thanks. I did have the right one fyi.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Fri, 24 November 2017, 11:21:14
what shipping service is it for USA orders? my tracking number didn't yield any search results.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 24 November 2017, 23:37:15
what shipping service is it for USA orders? my tracking number didn't yield any search results.
Someone mentioned S.F. Express but I haven't been able to see any results with that carrier across a couple of different tracking sites.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Sat, 25 November 2017, 12:25:00
Have all us orders shipped out? I can't get any response from the gb runners and no update to paypal.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Sat, 25 November 2017, 12:29:42
Have all us orders shipped out? I can't get any response from the gb runners and no update to paypal.


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As far as I can tell only some of the basic kits have shipped. They don't have the aluminum bottoms yet (as far as I can tell) so I don't think any of those kits have shipped.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 25 November 2017, 12:39:33
Have all us orders shipped out? I can't get any response from the gb runners and no update to paypal.


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Pretty sure the ONLY orders that have shipped thus far have been the basic kits containing 1. polycarb bottoms, 2. standard feet, 3. alu plates and nothing else. Everything else isn't ready (produced) and/or hasn't been packed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Sat, 25 November 2017, 12:43:56
Have all us orders shipped out? I can't get any response from the gb runners and no update to paypal.


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Pretty sure the ONLY orders that have shipped thus far have been the basic kits containing 1. polycarb bottoms, 2. standard feet, 3. alu plates and nothing else. Everything else isn't ready (produced) and/or hasn't been packed.

Thanks, guys. Unfortunately, the PayPal invoice doesn't list line items (at least it doesn't any longer). I found a $250 charge, so I assume I bought a basic kit with an extra PCB. No tracking number or shipping notification, though.

There is no spreadsheet to track orders, like Duck does, and zero support from the GB runners. Pretty darn disappointing, to say the least.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Sun, 26 November 2017, 11:10:33

...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!

Ok.


Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

That's definitely not a premium kit.


The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.

graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.

Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.

We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.

No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.

Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence  ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.

Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.

You guys have been really great lately. The Exent was my first GB ever, and I am not disappointed. In the mean time I've picked up a POK3R RGB, dropped way too much on keycaps, and developed an awesome business relationship with Rama. I'm really proud to be part of this community. Everything will be worth it when the board is in hand, I'm not speaking for anyone else, because they're allowed to be unhappy. I spent more money on this than almost anything else before in my adult life, but as a writer I want to have a beautiful statement piece that I use every day.

Fixing the LEDs? That's just one more project I get to do with this awesome build.

Can't wait. <3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Sun, 26 November 2017, 11:13:12

...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!

Ok.


Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

That's definitely not a premium kit.


The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.

graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.

Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.

We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.

No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.

Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence  ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.

Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.

So yet another problem with the production, and you guys say "**** it, we'll do it live!"  Bill O'Reilly would be proud.   :rolleyes:

I can understand how that might be the path of least resistance given everything that's happened up to this point, but that doesn't make it OK.  It's true that I can probably fix a bad solder joint on my own.  But I shouldn't have to. 

The way you've (plural) handled this tells me I should never touch another project associated with codywanks, yuktsi, juahenza, RAMA, Originative, TGR, TARO, NTW, or ACENIC.  That's probably a little unfair to RAMA, among others, but it's clear now this is not a team that can get the job done in a timely, professional, and respectful manner.  Even if every single problem that's plagued this project was out of your control, it shows that you chose your partners/vendors poorly and you still shoulder 100% of the blame.  Why the hell would anyone want to work with you after this?

Thanks for at least trying to deliver something, I guess.  That's more than I can say for some of these failed GBs.   :(  Your brutal (if mildly insulting) honesty is also better than what we usually get in these situations: radio silence.  So there's something to be said for that too.  Trying to find a silver lining here...

Don't blame RAMA, he only designed it and thats where hes relationship with it ends.

Nothing could be more true. :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Sun, 26 November 2017, 11:18:52
Every name associated with this GB has forever lost my business.

I hope Rama isn't included in this... Loveable guy :'(

He absolutely is. Him most of all, perhaps.


You'll say Rama is just the designer, and I'll say how did we end up with our current leadership? Did Rama just say "hey whoever wants this, take it" or did he actively choose them? Either way, he can't be trusted to select capable leadership for the production of his designs. His name, attached to a project, is rendered meaningless.

I would say that he is certainly not the most to blame, but he may have the most at stake.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Sun, 26 November 2017, 11:20:48

...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!

Ok.


Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

That's definitely not a premium kit.


The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.

graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.

Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.

We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.

No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.

Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence  ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.

Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.

You guys have been really great lately. The Exent was my first GB ever, and I am not disappointed. In the mean time I've picked up a POK3R RGB, dropped way too much on keycaps, and developed an awesome business relationship with Rama. I'm really proud to be part of this community. Everything will be worth it when the board is in hand, I'm not speaking for anyone else, because they're allowed to be unhappy. I spent more money on this than almost anything else before in my adult life, but as a writer I want to have a beautiful statement piece that I use every day.

Fixing the LEDs? That's just one more project I get to do with this awesome build.

Can't wait. <3

I'm less concerned about the led issue, and more concerned about the lack of updates and responses to PMs. I don't mind delays, but I like to have some rough sense of status.

Just because a GB is a "community purchase", it doesn't mean it can't be managed well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Sun, 26 November 2017, 11:26:15

...if one of you that are responsible for running things could update the thread once the premium kits, kits with brass plates and kits with 12º feet are ready to be packed and/or shipping that'd be great!

Ok.


Saw someone already got their exent premium kit on reddit

That's definitely not a premium kit.


The issue with the screw in stabs are not that uncommon but the LED issue is worrying. Let's hope it's a one time thing or a shipping issue.

graefeln's post addresses the issue with screw-in stabs adequately without the need for me to expound further.

Regarding the SMD LED issue - yes, it was picked up during QC. And no, it is definitely not a "one time thing". Do expect more PCBs to arrive like that.

We flashed each board individually and entered bootmapper to test random keys + LED functionality. Upon discovering that some PCBs had LEDs turned off, or LEDs where only 2 of the 3 colors worked, we were faced with two choices:
1) Send the faulty boards back to China to get reworked. This would have delayed the GB by at least 2-3 more months (I sh*t you not). The first batch of basic kits would've still been unassembled. Nothing would have shipped yet.
2) Ship the kits anyway, and teach the people with wonky LEDs how to fix them. It literally only takes a minute if you know what you're doing, or 5 minutes if you don't.

No prizes for guessing how we proceeded, and I'm willing to wager most other GB organizers would have done the same. As a fellow GB participant, it is also my opinion that issues such as these are resolved best (and quickest) as a collective, rather than be carried solely by the runners.

Sadly, I am well aware that there will invariably be a group of people who bought into the Exent with a customer/consumer mindset rather than as a community member, whose fingers are itching to type "I paid good money for this board, I expect it to arrive flawlessly!!!!11 Don't give me excuses for the LEDs, they're your problem not mine!!!111" even while reading this sentence  ;) Well, if you're one of them, there really is no point in me attempting to change your belief system or way of thinking. The debate could go on forever. (https://i.imgur.com/cOMj3.gif) Just yell at me if you must, and move on.

Back to the issue at hand - For those who are unfamiliar, the LEDs aren't working properly simply due to poor contact. That's all. Nothing too sinister or complicated. Read my post here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.msg2520881#msg2520881) if you want a better idea (both PCBs came from the same source). We have already weeded out the PCBs with major issues e.g. dead controller, so what you receive should well be user-fixable. But feel free to send me a PM if you still can't figure it out.

You guys have been really great lately. The Exent was my first GB ever, and I am not disappointed. In the mean time I've picked up a POK3R RGB, dropped way too much on keycaps, and developed an awesome business relationship with Rama. I'm really proud to be part of this community. Everything will be worth it when the board is in hand, I'm not speaking for anyone else, because they're allowed to be unhappy. I spent more money on this than almost anything else before in my adult life, but as a writer I want to have a beautiful statement piece that I use every day.

Fixing the LEDs? That's just one more project I get to do with this awesome build.

Can't wait. <3

I'm less concerned about the led issue, and more concerned about the lack of updates and responses to PMs. I don't mind delays, but I like to have some rough sense of status.

Just because a GB is a "community purchase", it doesn't mean it can't be managed well.

Yeah, lack of updates was absolutely heartbreaking. It got to a point I had to just start some other projects to forget about the delays and the dark turn this whole thing has taken over the last few months.

Would love to fast forward and see everyone's beautiful boards on display.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 26 November 2017, 12:06:05
Yeah, lack of updates was absolutely heartbreaking. It got to a point I had to just start some other projects to forget about the delays and the dark turn this whole thing has taken over the last few months.

I'm almost at this point. I ordered a premium kit which has gotten no updates lately, so I assume it's not going to ship anytime soon. I'm about to give up on being optimistic and kinda forget about all of this until my Exent magically shows up at my doorstep.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Sun, 26 November 2017, 12:18:37
Yeah, lack of updates was absolutely heartbreaking. It got to a point I had to just start some other projects to forget about the delays and the dark turn this whole thing has taken over the last few months.

I'm almost at this point. I ordered a premium kit which has gotten no updates lately, so I assume it's not going to ship anytime soon. I'm about to give up on being optimistic and kinda forget about all of this until my Exent magically shows up at my doorstep.

I'm just asking for any update or a response to my PM. Not even looking for a shipping update, tbh. I have a lot of patience, but this is just totally unprofessional.

I have only PM'd these guys *once* since I paid their invoice in Feb. A simple courtesy response would be nice. I also don't understand people making excuses for them. If this is a "community" buy, then how about just showing some decency and providing updates to the community members that support you?

Their lack of response to the questions people are asking on this thread, and the lack of replies to PM, speak volumes about what they think about this community.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Sun, 26 November 2017, 12:30:51
Yeah, lack of updates was absolutely heartbreaking. It got to a point I had to just start some other projects to forget about the delays and the dark turn this whole thing has taken over the last few months.

I'm almost at this point. I ordered a premium kit which has gotten no updates lately, so I assume it's not going to ship anytime soon. I'm about to give up on being optimistic and kinda forget about all of this until my Exent magically shows up at my doorstep.

Yeah I got Premium with Brass and both bottoms. I'm anticipating Jan / Feb tracking info.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Sun, 26 November 2017, 12:45:16
Yeah, lack of updates was absolutely heartbreaking. It got to a point I had to just start some other projects to forget about the delays and the dark turn this whole thing has taken over the last few months.

I'm almost at this point. I ordered a premium kit which has gotten no updates lately, so I assume it's not going to ship anytime soon. I'm about to give up on being optimistic and kinda forget about all of this until my Exent magically shows up at my doorstep.

I'm just asking for any update or a response to my PM. Not even looking for a shipping update, tbh. I have a lot of patience, but this is just totally unprofessional.

I have only PM'd these guys *once* since I paid their invoice in Feb. A simple courtesy response would be nice. I also don't understand people making excuses for them. If this is a "community" buy, then how about just showing some decency and providing updates to the community members that support you?

Their lack of response to the questions people are asking on this thread, and the lack of replies to PM, speak volumes about what they think about this community.

That's how I have felt this entire time.  Delays happen and we all get that.  But lack of communication is something we shouldn't have to expect and/or deal with.  Gets pretty discouraging to come in daily to check for updates and only see a slew of people asking the same questions over and over again.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sun, 26 November 2017, 13:31:23
Heyy!

Instead of trying to finding who is guilty (very pointless ! **** has happen, if you are not happy you can just don’t buy for the name associated, no need to spread it here!!!!), we can focus and what will be done in the near futur for this GB.

1: Is it possible as suggested for you (the maker) to fix our PCB for the one who are waiting for alu bottom, gray, premium... I think you have time for this, and if not, it can add a little delay that some of us are willing to accept (me for example!)

2: any news on gray anodizing? And alu bottom in general.

I would like to thanks you in advance for your response. Even is if was maybe bot perfect, I just see you are trying your best and I am not worried at all! Your product is amazing.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Sun, 26 November 2017, 14:08:58
Heyy!

Instead of trying to finding who is guilty (very pointless ! **** has happen, if you are not happy you can just don’t buy for the name associated, no need to spread it here!!!!), we can focus and what will be done in the near futur for this GB.

1: Is it possible as suggested for you (the maker) to fix our PCB for the one who are waiting for alu bottom, gray, premium... I think you have time for this, and if not, it can add a little delay that some of us are willing to accept (me for example!)

2: any news on gray anodizing? And alu bottom in general.

I would like to thanks you in advance for your response. Even is if was maybe bot perfect, I just see you are trying your best and I am not worried at all! Your product is amazing.  :thumb:

1. No one is spreading anything. I just want an update and reply to PM asking for status.

2. How can you say the product is amazing when you haven't got it yet?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sun, 26 November 2017, 14:31:11
Heyy!

Instead of trying to finding who is guilty (very pointless ! **** has happen, if you are not happy you can just don’t buy for the name associated, no need to spread it here!!!!), we can focus and what will be done in the near futur for this GB.

1: Is it possible as suggested for you (the maker) to fix our PCB for the one who are waiting for alu bottom, gray, premium... I think you have time for this, and if not, it can add a little delay that some of us are willing to accept (me for example!)

2: any news on gray anodizing? And alu bottom in general.

I would like to thanks you in advance for your response. Even is if was maybe bot perfect, I just see you are trying your best and I am not worried at all! Your product is amazing.  :thumb:

1. No one is spreading anything. I just want an update and reply to PM asking for status.

2. How can you say the product is amazing when you haven't got it yet?

It look amazing and I'm sure it is, maybe I am wrong but I don't think so. And I was not targeting you, but just globaly, there was a lot of people saying "i don't want to buy anymore" , okay , do what you want, no need for 20 post!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Sun, 26 November 2017, 14:36:29
Heyy!

Instead of trying to finding who is guilty (very pointless ! **** has happen, if you are not happy you can just don’t buy for the name associated, no need to spread it here!!!!), we can focus and what will be done in the near futur for this GB.

1: Is it possible as suggested for you (the maker) to fix our PCB for the one who are waiting for alu bottom, gray, premium... I think you have time for this, and if not, it can add a little delay that some of us are willing to accept (me for example!)

2: any news on gray anodizing? And alu bottom in general.

I would like to thanks you in advance for your response. Even is if was maybe bot perfect, I just see you are trying your best and I am not worried at all! Your product is amazing.  :thumb:

1. No one is spreading anything. I just want an update and reply to PM asking for status.

2. How can you say the product is amazing when you haven't got it yet?

It look amazing and I'm sure it is, maybe I am wrong but I don't think so. And I was not targeting you, but just globaly, there was a lot of people saying "i don't want to buy anymore" , okay , do what you want, no need for 20 post!

Fair enough. I mean, I bought it because I think it looks great, too. That doesn't mean everything is good with the buy.

It would be nice to have communication from the seller on the status, no? I asked via PM to confirm my order and get a quick status that I haven't been forgotten. I think I bought the base kit, which people are saying has shipped, but I don't have tracking. So no clue what's going on.

I guess if you are still happy regardless of no status and no delivery, and some bad PCB news, no need to worry. =)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Sun, 26 November 2017, 14:54:00
Heyy!

Instead of trying to finding who is guilty (very pointless ! **** has happen, if you are not happy you can just don’t buy for the name associated, no need to spread it here!!!!), we can focus and what will be done in the near futur for this GB.

1: Is it possible as suggested for you (the maker) to fix our PCB for the one who are waiting for alu bottom, gray, premium... I think you have time for this, and if not, it can add a little delay that some of us are willing to accept (me for example!)

2: any news on gray anodizing? And alu bottom in general.

I would like to thanks you in advance for your response. Even is if was maybe bot perfect, I just see you are trying your best and I am not worried at all! Your product is amazing.  :thumb:

1. No one is spreading anything. I just want an update and reply to PM asking for status.

2. How can you say the product is amazing when you haven't got it yet?

It look amazing and I'm sure it is, maybe I am wrong but I don't think so. And I was not targeting you, but just globaly, there was a lot of people saying "i don't want to buy anymore" , okay , do what you want, no need for 20 post!

Fair enough. I mean, I bought it because I think it looks great, too. That doesn't mean everything is good with the buy.

It would be nice to have communication from the seller on the status, no? I asked via PM to confirm my order and get a quick status that I haven't been forgotten. I think I bought the base kit, which people are saying has shipped, but I don't have tracking. So no clue what's going on.

I guess if you are still happy regardless of no status and no delivery, and some bad PCB news, no need to worry. =)

I think they are going out in waves.  I'm in the same boat for the base kit but with a grey case so mine will be delayed regardless.  Hopefully we get a more concrete answer for timelines and whats shipped and not shipped.  But like  you said, it would be nice to have a spreadsheet for the orders to indicate if its shipped or not.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Sun, 26 November 2017, 20:57:44
All basic kits with no additional/upgraded parts had been shipped except for the grey top. Half of the aluminum bottom had been sent to anodizing, while the other half are still machining. No update for the grey top so far, they have still yet to work on it. A brief chat with the person in charge, the rework will involve stripping the anodized layer, sandblast, chemical etch and anodizing again. They will try to get some overtime workers to work on it in the coming weekend.

We will be working on the basic kits with the brass plate and 12 deg this week. Expected to have all of these shipped by the end of the week. Ideally, we will start working the premium kit the week after. All tracking will be updated to the PayPal once the parcel has been shipped.

Would appreciate a little more patience, slowly but surely, we are delivering. When there's any progress, I will update here. Else we are busy checking and packing the parts. Thanks.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ricyuyc on Sun, 26 November 2017, 22:12:30
All basic kits with no additional/upgraded parts had been shipped except for the grey top. Half of the aluminum bottom had been sent to anodizing, while the other half are still machining. No update for the grey top so far, they have still yet to work on it. A brief chat with the person in charge, the rework will involve stripping the anodized layer, sandblast, chemical etch and anodizing again. They will try to get some overtime workers to work on it in the coming weekend.

We will be working on the basic kits with the brass plate and 12 deg this week. Expected to have all of these shipped by the end of the week. Ideally, we will start working the premium kit the week after. All tracking will be updated to the PayPal once the parcel has been shipped.

Would appreciate a little more patience, slowly but surely, we are delivering. When there's any progress, I will update here. Else we are busy checking and packing the parts. Thanks.
Thank You for your update. Would the remained EXENT PCB be checked and fixed for the LED issue before shipping out?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sun, 26 November 2017, 23:21:10
Are we still going to hit the early dec shipping date? I was hoping i'd receive the board before the year turns.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Troif on Mon, 27 November 2017, 05:24:27
Thanks. For me no worries so take your time. I already have many keyboards to type on meanwhile.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Mon, 27 November 2017, 08:50:36
아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 27 November 2017, 08:53:45
아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!

Wut   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 27 November 2017, 09:09:07
I have brass plate and 8 deg. Is that in the basic kit/brass category or part of the 12 degree category?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: typischt on Mon, 27 November 2017, 09:48:25
아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!

Wut   :rolleyes:
He said:
Oh, I'd like to pick you up soon ... ㅠ. ㅠ.
English is hard and waiting is too hard. Big ...
Lord Achan, please send me my deer!
...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 27 November 2017, 09:56:20
아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!

Wut   :rolleyes:
He said:
Oh, I'd like to pick you up soon ... ㅠ. ㅠ.
English is hard and waiting is too hard. Big ...
Lord Achan, please send me my deer!
...

Yeah yeah I also google translate it, but made me laugh to see that here XD
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: typischt on Mon, 27 November 2017, 09:59:22
아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!

Wut   :rolleyes:
He said:
Oh, I'd like to pick you up soon ... ㅠ. ㅠ.
English is hard and waiting is too hard. Big ...
Lord Achan, please send me my deer!
...

Yeah yeah I also google translate it, but made me laugh to see that here XD
Haha, thought so, that you‘d gooled it, but it was too funny to not post it..!  ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Mon, 27 November 2017, 10:05:56
아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!

translation:

OMG, I really want to receive my board ASAP.
In fact, I’m not good at English, and it’s extremely hard to wait for something.
Oh, Juahenza, please send me my board quickly. plz, plz, plz, plz!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 27 November 2017, 10:08:14
아,빨리 수령하고 싶네요...ㅠ.ㅠ
영어도 힘들고 기다리는거 너무너무 힘들어요. 크으....
주아헨자님,제것도 얼릉 좀 보내주세여!

translation:

OMG, I really want to receive my board ASAP.
In fact, I’m not good at English, and it’s extremely hard to wait for something.
Oh, Juahenza, please send me my board quickly. plz, plz, plz, plz!

The google translation is way funnier  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Zackfoo on Mon, 27 November 2017, 10:27:00
Yes it probably sucks for delayed shipment. But rushed shipment very rarely produce a desirable result.

I am all into waiting more to get a flawless keyboard. Those that complains about juahenza not replying, I understand but come on guys, this is a group project, he is not the only one in charge, and he have his actual work to do too.

Give him a break. And also ask nicely, pissing him off doesn't sound productive to me. He will still deliver the product as good as he can but I don't think this makes him wants to even read the emails no?



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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Mon, 27 November 2017, 10:37:33
Yes it probably sucks for delayed shipment. But rushed shipment very rarely produce a desirable result.

I am all into waiting more to get a flawless keyboard. Those that complains about juahenza not replying, I understand but come on guys, this is a group project, he is not the only one in charge, and he have his actual work to do too.

Give him a break. And also ask nicely, pissing him off doesn't sound productive to me. He will still deliver the product as good as he can but I don't think this makes him wants to even read the emails no?



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Personally, I have zero issues with delays. My issue is with lack of status updates and responses.

I have asked nicely, and I don't spam. I only come here to complain if I don't get a response. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a reply.

Finally, I did get a response to my PM from juahenza, and I appreciate it.

Participating in a community buy and expecting reasonable communication are not mutually exclusive things.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Zackfoo on Mon, 27 November 2017, 10:40:02
Yes it probably sucks for delayed shipment. But rushed shipment very rarely produce a desirable result.

I am all into waiting more to get a flawless keyboard. Those that complains about juahenza not replying, I understand but come on guys, this is a group project, he is not the only one in charge, and he have his actual work to do too.

Give him a break. And also ask nicely, pissing him off doesn't sound productive to me. He will still deliver the product as good as he can but I don't think this makes him wants to even read the emails no?



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Personally, I have zero issues with delays. My issue is with lack of status updates and responses.

I have asked nicely, and I don't spam. I only come here to complain if I don't get a response. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a reply.

Finally, I did get a response to my PM from juahenza, and I appreciate it.

Participating in a community buy and expecting reasonable communication are not mutually exclusive things.
Thank you sir for being a reasonable and rational person.

If I offended you in any way please pardon me I didn't meant it.

I was just referring to some that bad mouthing. Especially those that weren't even in the Gb to begin with.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 27 November 2017, 10:45:10
Yes it probably sucks for delayed shipment. But rushed shipment very rarely produce a desirable result.

I am all into waiting more to get a flawless keyboard. Those that complains about juahenza not replying, I understand but come on guys, this is a group project, he is not the only one in charge, and he have his actual work to do too.

Give him a break. And also ask nicely, pissing him off doesn't sound productive to me. He will still deliver the product as good as he can but I don't think this makes him wants to even read the emails no?

I sympathise with Juahenza, he has been nothing but kind to me the times I had to contact him regarding address/order changes that I had to get done. **** happens, I have no problem believing most (if not all) the delays were beyond his control - however, can we please not go back to this now that the radio silence has been broken and that things seem to finally be on track to come to a close? It's old news. Things are happening. He doesn't need you to defend him.

He (and others responsible) has to read his emails and the thread, even when they are filled with things they don't want to see. It is his job, regardless of whether or not it is his "actual work". He tasked himself to run this. Doesn't matter if the uproar is something one some times wants to turn a blind eye to, it's about professionalism. When you take it upon yourself to do something like this you have to be ready and you FACE and SOLVE the situations and problems if/as they arise, you don't turn into an amoeba and lay down in your bed in fetal position or run to your "real job" and "real life" because people are angry and disappointed on the internet that you've mishandled the situation regarding their hobbyist keyboard. It is, again, about professionalism and commitment. When you willingly come on board of a group/community (as you yourself put it) project, as you sow, you shall reap. Brave on, deal with the backlash, come out on top. That's how it has to work if you want to maintain a customer base happy and uphold your reputation. This IS the business perspective that people need to understand.

You saying "but guys pls give him a break he only didn't respond for like 3 months after he said he'd give us weekly updates 4 months ago, if you guys keep complaining he's just gonna continue to not address this nightmare that he took upon himself to deal with" is not helping anyone, ESPECIALLY not Juahenza and the other affiliates. Let it go.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Tue, 28 November 2017, 17:19:15
Since these are shipping, I'll start work on the Ortho PCB variant. Who else wanted one? Features and price kinda depend on interest. So far I'm making a simple 1u grid, onboard controller, and no backlighting. Might offer some 2u spacebar and numpad options and backlighting if there's enough interest.

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Any progress on the ortho pcb? Would love to get one.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 28 November 2017, 18:21:18
I guess the answer to my previous question was no. Thanks for posting an update then leaving again.

Looks like Nautilus will arrive before the board it will be on does. I'm already guessing the alu bottoms with the premium kits with extras are going to go last.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Thu, 30 November 2017, 00:21:49
(https://i.imgur.com/IAwLSYs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VsembBD.jpg)

Finally, I got this board. Unfortunately, I have the issue regarding PCB, too.
As seen in this pic, one LED isn't functioning properly, but it doesn't matter, cuz I'm planning to use just pink colors.

Thanks for my joining this GB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 30 November 2017, 00:24:09
Hi y’all, just received it. Tested the pcb and it works.
https://imgur.com/a/5JygE


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Thu, 30 November 2017, 02:43:26
Wow!  :eek: , this keeb look sick. I am so excited! I want mine toooo!

Any news on alu bottom and gray color? :) !
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 30 November 2017, 06:53:59
Hi y’all, just received it. Tested the pcb and it works.
https://imgur.com/a/5JygE


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Dang.  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Troif on Thu, 30 November 2017, 07:06:46
Hi @juahenza. I chose a black version with brass plate and polycarbonate bottom... is it going to be shipped before Christmas? thx


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Thu, 30 November 2017, 07:29:30
what! purple one looks so gorgeous.
when I saw exent in reddit. It looks so bad. but Now I think it is no problem.
I think this keyboard's attactive point is for SA keycap.
no more,no less.
so when will it be shipped mine? Black with alu-bottom..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Thu, 30 November 2017, 07:52:37
I just want you all to know that my purple Exent is going to sport beige matt3o dev/tty caps with navy novelkeys switches (and dark yellow, and burnt orange if I can get 4); and it will be awesome!

And if that doesn’t work, then GMK Laser, whenever that shows up.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: g_ken92 on Thu, 30 November 2017, 10:25:10
I just want you all to know that my purple Exent is going to sport beige matt3o dev/tty caps with navy novelkeys switches (and dark yellow, and burnt orange if I can get 4); and it will be awesome!

And if that doesn’t work, then GMK Laser, whenever that shows up.

cant wait for the pics  :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 30 November 2017, 11:40:20
Geez that purple really is exceptional. I'm honestly furious about the PCB issues, inexcusable in my opinion.

Damnit why hasn't mine gotten here yet. I've been waiting for this thing for ****ing months.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Thu, 30 November 2017, 11:55:16
so i plugged mine in and no lights at all(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/f745517a92d4ea69664ce437fc29df9c.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Thu, 30 November 2017, 11:57:55
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/IAwLSYs.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/VsembBD.jpg)


Finally, I got this board. Unfortunately, I have the issue regarding PCB, too.
As seen in this pic, one LED isn't functioning properly, but it doesn't matter, cuz I'm planning to use just pink colors.

Thanks for my joining this GB.
Hi y’all, just received it. Tested the pcb and it works.
https://imgur.com/a/5JygE


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very nice  :thumb:

I wish the feet came polished from the manufacturer though  :(
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 30 November 2017, 12:06:33
so i plugged mine in and no lights at all
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/f745517a92d4ea69664ce437fc29df9c.jpg)

Try turning the led on with bootmapper client.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Thu, 30 November 2017, 12:10:21
so i plugged mine in and no lights at all
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/f745517a92d4ea69664ce437fc29df9c.jpg)

Try turning the led on with bootmapper client.


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thanks that worked. only 1 led works :-/

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/fec0fda35ff708ccd2220f111d7703e3.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Thu, 30 November 2017, 12:29:43
is there going to be some tutorial on performing a reflow for the LED problem?
i've soldered switches and inswitch LEDS but never RGB LEDs
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Thu, 30 November 2017, 12:48:06
so i plugged mine in and no lights at all
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/f745517a92d4ea69664ce437fc29df9c.jpg)

Try turning the led on with bootmapper client.


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thanks that worked. only 1 led works :-/

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/fec0fda35ff708ccd2220f111d7703e3.jpg)


Only one alive? Unlucky. Did you change Num of LEDs into 18?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Thu, 30 November 2017, 12:48:48
so i plugged mine in and no lights at all
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/f745517a92d4ea69664ce437fc29df9c.jpg)

Try turning the led on with bootmapper client.


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thanks that worked. only 1 led works :-/

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171130/fec0fda35ff708ccd2220f111d7703e3.jpg)


Only one alive? Unlucky. Did you change Num of LEDs into 18?

yes, also tried changing the color of the LEDs and the one that works stays green.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 30 November 2017, 14:09:52
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Thu, 30 November 2017, 14:25:31
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50
thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Fri, 01 December 2017, 04:20:29
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50

Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Fri, 01 December 2017, 04:36:45
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50

Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.
May I suggest you update the first page post with FAQs? I don’t think it’s a surprise that people don’t go back through pages of discussion to try find the answers they want.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Fri, 01 December 2017, 07:29:01
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50

Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.

This sort of comment is very helpful and appreciated by everyone, I'm sure. Thank goodness the group buy hasn't had any delays or lack of communication so far!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 01 December 2017, 08:57:02
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50

Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.

I'll be honest, I don't actually know in what way you are affiliated with the buy but here's the thing. Dealing with and answering the same **** every time is part of the job, especially when things were in the gutter for as long as they were here - you've read my other posts surely, I am nothing but patient and I have been as constructive as I can but just like people making the same complaints over and over again, you saying something like this is not helping the situation either.

Once people commit to something, being deterred by insolent buyers (who DO have a reason to be upset) shows very little professionalism which is what this buy desperately needed for the longest time. Whether or not that is your job, you solved it to a satisfactory level. Don't **** it up now.

As for a new question - are premium kits inclusive of upgraded parts still on track to ship next week?

I appreciate your updates.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Fri, 01 December 2017, 09:29:24
Weird enough we got a FAQ and updates post on the first page yet the GB runner himself doesn't update it lmao.

Why wouldn't you be surprised that people keep asking the same question, then get annoyed by said questions? Other people could easily say "read the faq" if someone actually updated it.

Last time FAQ was updated: Late January
Last time the update post was updated: August

And i quote:

Been awhile since the last update from us. This will serve as the update section, we are committed to updating everyone on a weekly basis.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Fri, 01 December 2017, 09:33:41
I don’t think it’s a surprise that people don’t go back through pages of discussion to try find the answers they want.

Why wouldn't you be surprised that people keep asking the same question

I'm not surprised that people keep asking the same question. But I'm quite amused that they're getting upset about answers not being provided when they actually have already been  ;D


I'll be honest, I don't actually know in what way you are affiliated with the buy

To clarify, I'm a regular participant like you. I paid full price for my order. Only difference is I know the GB runners personally, I think they are cool people, I consider them friends, and I don't like seeing the toll this GB has taken on them. Which is why I gladly volunteered my free time to help with packing and assembly.


Dealing with and answering the same **** every time is part of the job...

...Whether or not that is your job, you solved it to a satisfactory level. Don't **** it up now.

I don't think it's part of my job, but thanks I guess?


As for a new question - are premium kits inclusive of upgraded parts still on track to ship next week?

No, actually we're looking to start filling some brass plate/12 deg feet basic kit orders next week. If we're lucky, some might even start shipping at the end of the week.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 01 December 2017, 09:53:38
And what about fixing the remaining pcb for those who wait for gray/alu bottom, and even are willing to wait if this take more time than waiting for alu bottom/gray to be ready! I would really appreciate that it delivere 100% functional!

Thanks for your update on this!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Fri, 01 December 2017, 10:16:13
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50

Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.
then don't update. let someone competent do it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 01 December 2017, 10:18:32
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50

Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.



hollllly **** are you serious? You guys are worse than I thought, and I honestly can't believe that's possible. You've made this bed and now you can lie in it.

What a bunch of utter nincompoops.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 01 December 2017, 10:33:58
I don’t think it’s a surprise that people don’t go back through pages of discussion to try find the answers they want.

Why wouldn't you be surprised that people keep asking the same question

I'm not surprised that people keep asking the same question. But I'm quite amused that they're getting upset about answers not being provided when they actually have already been  ;D


I'll be honest, I don't actually know in what way you are affiliated with the buy

To clarify, I'm a regular participant like you. I paid full price for my order. Only difference is I know the GB runners personally, I think they are cool people, I consider them friends, and I don't like seeing the toll this GB has taken on them. Which is why I gladly volunteered my free time to help with packing and assembly.


Dealing with and answering the same **** every time is part of the job...

...Whether or not that is your job, you solved it to a satisfactory level. Don't **** it up now.

I don't think it's part of my job, but thanks I guess?


As for a new question - are premium kits inclusive of upgraded parts still on track to ship next week?

No, actually we're looking to start filling some brass plate/12 deg feet basic kit orders next week. If we're lucky, some might even start shipping at the end of the week.

Seeing as you are doing this entirely pro bono as a regular participant and it hadn't been made clear prior to this (to my knowledge) then it is obviously not your job - however, those whose job it is should be the ones held accountable whether or not you're taking time and effort out of your own day(s) to help them out. Your usage of "we" and other pronouns made it slightly dubious so I apologise for the assumption.

Your involvement is still appreciated regardless, I feel like I'm repeating myself but the point is that those who ARE legally responsible should understand the basics in that no matter how much **** they get thrown at them for their shortcomings it is their duty to go "sir, siiiiiiir :) I know times have been grim but we will get through this, the problems are being solved and things are in motion, this and this is happening right now and that and that will be happening shortly".

If they cannot do that then they should hire someone (either pro bono or otherwise) to do it for them else they inspire zero confidence and trustworthiness. Withdrawing their participation completely for whatever reason that may and not delegating that job onto someone else be is crass and entirely unacceptable; that is largely why the uproar has been as you've seen it. I'm sorry, truly, but the toll it has taken on them has also been mostly their own fault, I've seen this hundreds of times in other dealings I've had, professionally and otherwise - it's like the old Serenity Prayer, there IS a difference between the things you can and cannot change, we as buyers as well as the GB runners should (and for the better part do) accept that there are hurdles and that there have been difficulties, what CAN (and should have been) be changed is the way those are communicated and handled between us.

The burden they bear was taken by them upon themselves when they started all this. That is the job, no matter what. I hope everyone involved that could've made this better not only for us but for themselves has learned this.

Lastly, thank you for the response to my question - hopefully it goes smoothly on their end, pushing out as much as possible before Christmas/New Year's is probably a good idea.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Fri, 01 December 2017, 11:11:06
Any update on the greys?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 01 December 2017, 13:12:12
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50

Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.

add a FAQ, that's what they're for
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 01 December 2017, 18:35:53
So I just received my Exent and am beyond disappointed. I will be back later to discuss why that is, but at this instant my issue is that I cannot make one single LED light up. I have followed both instructions posted in this thread, e.g. that by catweewee to no avail. I've also reflowed the solder on every single LED. So either I'm doing something wrong, or my PCB is so dead not a single LED will light. For reference, I have loaded a keymap onto it and under the small amount of testing I've done the keys appear to be working.

What are my options for the LEDs? What the hell radio button are you talking about in the SMD LED repair guide? Could I get precise instructions for getting the LEDs to light up in case I'm making a mistake here?

Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 01 December 2017, 18:47:54
So I just received my Exent and am beyond disappointed. I will be back later to discuss why that is, but at this instant my issue is that I cannot make one single LED light up. I have followed both instructions posted in this thread, e.g. that by catweewee to no avail. I've also reflowed the solder on every single LED. So either I'm doing something wrong, or my PCB is so dead not a single LED will light. For reference, I have loaded a keymap onto it and under the small amount of testing I've done the keys appear to be working.

What are my options for the LEDs? What the hell radio button are you talking about in the SMD LED repair guide? Could I get precise instructions for getting the LEDs to light up in case I'm making a mistake here?

Thanks.

Because of the way these LEDs work, a dead one will keep the ones after it from working, even if they're good.

So potentially you could only have one dead LED in position one. You'll have to start diagnosing there.

**No affiliation with GB runners**
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Fri, 01 December 2017, 18:50:09
So I just received my Exent and am beyond disappointed. I will be back later to discuss why that is, but at this instant my issue is that I cannot make one single LED light up. I have followed both instructions posted in this thread, e.g. that by catweewee to no avail. I've also reflowed the solder on every single LED. So either I'm doing something wrong, or my PCB is so dead not a single LED will light. For reference, I have loaded a keymap onto it and under the small amount of testing I've done the keys appear to be working.

What are my options for the LEDs? What the hell radio button are you talking about in the SMD LED repair guide? Could I get precise instructions for getting the LEDs to light up in case I'm making a mistake here?

Thanks.

Because of the way these LEDs work, a dead one will keep the ones after it from working, even if they're good.

So potentially you could only have one dead LED in position one. You'll have to start diagnosing there.

**No affiliation with GB runners**
i believe when looking at the board bottom side up with the usb port facing away from you, LED #1 is the one on the far left
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Fri, 01 December 2017, 19:48:28
Reflow LED fix tutorial was posted earlier: https://imgur.com/a/qaj50

Part of the reason I don't feel motivated to update as much is because people keep asking the same old questions that have already been addressed.

add a FAQ, that's what they're for

Luckily there is a faq, though it'd be nice if it wasn't left to earn dust in months.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 01 December 2017, 19:57:21
I wish there was a locked thread only the creators could comment on I could follow instead of wondering if there was an update every time someone posted about there not being any updates
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 01 December 2017, 20:57:26
So I received my Exent, and imagine my elation when I discover the following, progressively.

1) Dents in the switch plate, picture in album.

2) Cracks in the polycarbonate bottom, where the foot is mounted. Clearly someone drove those in with an impact driver, because that's how you're supposed to do it . Pictures in album.

3) A pcb in such bad shape literally none of the LEDs work. I have a picture of the PCB plugged in for what it's worth.

4) Parts I ordered were missing. I ordered both clip in and screw in stabilizers, none of which are anywhere to be found in the box I received. I didn't. Thought I did, but I definitely didn't get the premium kit and that's the only one stabilizers come with.

5) Screws, quite literally, missing. Two countersink screws holding the foot to the polycarbonate bottom aren't present, although this is a blessing in disguise somewhat as I'd expect if I had gotten them I would have a polycarbonate bottom with five  cracked countersinks, as opposed to only three. And, one pan-head screw for  holding the switchplate to the case is absent as well.


Speaking now to Juahenza or Yuktsi, here is what I think is reasonable:

1) Send me another PCB, as the LEDs were not fixed even after reflowing the solder on all four leads of each one of them.

2) Send me either (A) an unbroken polycarbonate bottom or (B) an aluminum bottom (siliver). Whichever you have extras for. You do not need to send a second foot, the foot I received is fine.

3) A 8.75$ reimbursement for the stabilizers I just ordered (Costar, from WASD keyboards. Update: I'm not even sure these will work, as the cherry ones I have on hand don't. They don't clip into the switchplate? I.e. are loose? Can anyone fill me in on what's going on here? ) These wouldn't work anyway, and honestly I don't know what stabilizers to buy. PCB mount stabilizers. Thank you Xondat.

4) The screw in and clip in stabilizers I ordered originally.  Recalled I didn't order the premium kit.

5) The missing screws (2xCountersink 1xpanhead)

6) A switch plate, which I will pay 50% of assuming the above are fulfilled.



Here is an album of pictures of my Exent: https://imgur.com/a/aLPlc

These photos we're taken within 10 minutes of unboxing the keyboard.

Thanks.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 01 December 2017, 21:05:14
So I received my Exent, and imagine my elation when I discover the following, progressively.

1) Dents in the switch plate, picture in album.

2) Cracks in the polycarbonate bottom, where the foot is mounted. Clearly someone drove those in with an impact driver, because that's how you're supposed to do it . Pictures in album.

3) A pcb in such bad shape literally none of the LEDs work. I have a picture of the PCB plugged in for what it's worth.

4) Parts I ordered were missing. I ordered both clip in and screw in stabilizers, none of which are anywhere to be found in the box I received.

5) Screws, quite literally, missing. Two countersink screws holding the foot to the polycarbonate bottom aren't present, although this is a blessing in disguise somewhat as I'd expect if I had gotten them I would have a polycarbonate bottom with five  cracked countersinks, as opposed to only three. And, one pan-head screw for  holding the switchplate to the case is absent as well.


Speaking now to Juahenza or Yuktsi, here is what I think is reasonable:

1) Send me another PCB, as the LEDs were not fixed even after reflowing the solder on all four leads of each one of them.

2) Send me either (A) an unbroken polycarbonate bottom or (B) an aluminum bottom (siliver). Whichever you have extras for. You do not need to send a second foot, the foot I received is fine.

3) A 8.75$ reimbursement for the stabilizers I just ordered (Costar, from WASD keyboards. )

4) The screw in and clip in stabilizers I ordered originally. 

5) The missing screws (2xCountersink 1xpanhead)

6) A switch plate, which I will pay 50% of (15$, or 6.25$ given that I need to be reimbursed for the stabilizers I just purchased).

Here is an album of pictures of my Exent: https://imgur.com/a/aLPlc

These photos we're taken within 10 minutes of unboxing the keyboard.

Thanks.

I think they should exchange your PCB, not just send you a second one. And why would you buy stabs before reaching out to get the ones you ordered and then expect them to pay you back for the stabs your ordered, again, before reaching out to get the ones you should have gotten?

I am really bummed to see so many problems with what feels like every board people are getting... I have not had any problems with the wait or the lack of communication because I believed what I was getting would make up for both. Very concerning.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 01 December 2017, 21:11:51
So I received my Exent, and imagine my elation when I discover the following, progressively.

1) Dents in the switch plate, picture in album.

2) Cracks in the polycarbonate bottom, where the foot is mounted. Clearly someone drove those in with an impact driver, because that's how you're supposed to do it . Pictures in album.

3) A pcb in such bad shape literally none of the LEDs work. I have a picture of the PCB plugged in for what it's worth.

4) Parts I ordered were missing. I ordered both clip in and screw in stabilizers, none of which are anywhere to be found in the box I received.

5) Screws, quite literally, missing. Two countersink screws holding the foot to the polycarbonate bottom aren't present, although this is a blessing in disguise somewhat as I'd expect if I had gotten them I would have a polycarbonate bottom with five  cracked countersinks, as opposed to only three. And, one pan-head screw for  holding the switchplate to the case is absent as well.


Speaking now to Juahenza or Yuktsi, here is what I think is reasonable:

1) Send me another PCB, as the LEDs were not fixed even after reflowing the solder on all four leads of each one of them.

2) Send me either (A) an unbroken polycarbonate bottom or (B) an aluminum bottom (siliver). Whichever you have extras for. You do not need to send a second foot, the foot I received is fine.

3) A 8.75$ reimbursement for the stabilizers I just ordered (Costar, from WASD keyboards. )

4) The screw in and clip in stabilizers I ordered originally. 

5) The missing screws (2xCountersink 1xpanhead)

6) A switch plate, which I will pay 50% of (15$, or 6.25$ given that I need to be reimbursed for the stabilizers I just purchased).

Here is an album of pictures of my Exent: https://imgur.com/a/aLPlc

These photos we're taken within 10 minutes of unboxing the keyboard.

Thanks.

I think they should exchange your PCB, not just send you a second one. And why would you buy stabs before reaching out to get the ones you ordered and then expect them to pay you back for the stabs your ordered, again, before reaching out to get the ones you should have gotten?

I am really bummed to see so many problems with what feels like every board people are getting... I have not had any problems with the wait or the lack of communication because I believed what I was getting would make up for both. Very concerning.


Send me a second one for the trouble I've been caused. Overall I also feel we, the customers, have been treated badly.

And again, reimburse me for the stabs I purchased because of how I've been treated as an investor in this project. As for the stabs I ordered initially, I'm entitled to them, regardless, considering I paid for them. This is wrong, I actually think I didn't order stabilizers. Doesn't excuse any of my other problems, though.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 01 December 2017, 21:14:01
Just stating up front in order to make it public knowledge but if my polycarb bottom comes cracked in the way Pancake's is someone is getting backhanded.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 01 December 2017, 21:53:39
You know, I just realized I may be mistaken about missing the stabilizers, i.e. I didn't order the premium kit, which was the one stabs came with (remember, I did order this thing a very long time ago). But I tried some stabilizers I had on hand, costar and cherry, and none of them work in the switchplate. What stabilizers does this thing take? Can someone give me a link? I'm incredibly confused.

The rest still stands. I still have a dead PCB and a broken polycarbonate bottom, missing screws, and an enormous amount of disappointment, but I strip the stabilizer parts from  my request.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Fri, 01 December 2017, 22:05:14
You know, I just realized I may be mistaken about missing the stabilizers, i.e. I didn't order the premium kit, which was the one stabs came with (remember, I did order this thing a very long time ago). But I tried some stabilizers I had on hand, costar and cherry, and none of them work in the switchplate. What stabilizers does this thing take? Can someone give me a link? I'm incredibly confused.

The rest still stands. I still have a dead PCB and a broken polycarbonate bottom, missing screws, and an enormous amount of disappointment, but I strip the stabilizer parts from  my request.

You need Cherry PCB mount stabilizers; these come in clip in and screw in variations.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/20n-beoOgO8/maxresdefault.jpg)

Not sure what region you're from for a link, but it isn't a difficult thing to find with Google.

Sorry to hear about your kit.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 01 December 2017, 22:06:17
You know, I just realized I may be mistaken about missing the stabilizers, i.e. I didn't order the premium kit, which was the one stabs came with (remember, I did order this thing a very long time ago). But I tried some stabilizers I had on hand, costar and cherry, and none of them work in the switchplate. What stabilizers does this thing take? Can someone give me a link? I'm incredibly confused.

The rest still stands. I still have a dead PCB and a broken polycarbonate bottom, missing screws, and an enormous amount of disappointment, but I strip the stabilizer parts from  my request.

You need Cherry PCB mount stabilizers; these come in clip in and screw in variations.

Show Image
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/20n-beoOgO8/maxresdefault.jpg)


Not sure what region you're from for a link, but it isn't a difficult thing to find with Google.

Sorry to hear about your kit.

Ahhhh. Okay. Thank you I really appreciate that. Driving me ****in nuts that none of my stabilizers could work.

Yeah, I'm sorry too. Incredibly, I've been dreaming about this thing for months.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 01 December 2017, 22:18:07
After looking at PancakeMSTR's album, how can you guys claim that there is any QC going on at all?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 01 December 2017, 22:20:29
Yikes, that cracked polycarbonate bottom is bad. I don't even know what to say.

It's times like these that I'm almost glad my stuff ships later. With the UK78 mine shipped late and I got better packaging, and maybe it will be the same with the Exent. And maybe my PCBs will be checked and fixed (if necessary) before they are shipped to me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 01 December 2017, 22:29:06
After looking at PancakeMSTR's album, how can you guys claim that there is any QC going on at all?

Could be shipping related to be fair, polycarb is not exactly the most durable under stress (eg. point of screw insertion and whatnot) as we well know so maybe those were not actually there prior and only happened (or got exacerbated) because of bumps and whatnot whilst on the way.

Edit: Changed my mind due to circumstance, the situation seems dodgy for other reasons.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 01 December 2017, 22:36:33
After looking at PancakeMSTR's album, how can you guys claim that there is any QC going on at all?

Could be shipping related to be fair, polycarb is not exactly the most durable under stress (eg. point of screw insertion and whatnot) as we well know so maybe those were not actually there prior and only happened (or got exacerbated) because of bumps and whatnot whilst on the way.

Hardly acceptable even in that scenario but it all depends on how they handle his replacement.

I highly doubt it. Possible, but I'd claim unlikely. That looks quintessentially like a screw driven in 10 times too hard to me. It was packed bordered by foam on all sides, seemed like okay (though not great) packing to me.

And if it were the case, I'd argue leaving two screws out of the foot mount exacerbated the problem.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 01 December 2017, 22:43:44
So I received my Exent, and imagine my elation when I discover the following, progressively.

1) Dents in the switch plate, picture in album.

2) Cracks in the polycarbonate bottom, where the foot is mounted. Clearly someone drove those in with an impact driver, because that's how you're supposed to do it . Pictures in album.

3) A pcb in such bad shape literally none of the LEDs work. I have a picture of the PCB plugged in for what it's worth.

4) Parts I ordered were missing. I ordered both clip in and screw in stabilizers, none of which are anywhere to be found in the box I received. I didn't. Thought I did, but I definitely didn't get the premium kit and that's the only one stabilizers come with.

5) Screws, quite literally, missing. Two countersink screws holding the foot to the polycarbonate bottom aren't present, although this is a blessing in disguise somewhat as I'd expect if I had gotten them I would have a polycarbonate bottom with five  cracked countersinks, as opposed to only three. And, one pan-head screw for  holding the switchplate to the case is absent as well.


Speaking now to Juahenza or Yuktsi, here is what I think is reasonable:

1) Send me another PCB, as the LEDs were not fixed even after reflowing the solder on all four leads of each one of them.

2) Send me either (A) an unbroken polycarbonate bottom or (B) an aluminum bottom (siliver). Whichever you have extras for. You do not need to send a second foot, the foot I received is fine.

3) A 8.75$ reimbursement for the stabilizers I just ordered (Costar, from WASD keyboards. Update: I'm not even sure these will work, as the cherry ones I have on hand don't. They don't clip into the switchplate? I.e. are loose? Can anyone fill me in on what's going on here? ) These wouldn't work anyway, and honestly I don't know what stabilizers to buy. PCB mount stabilizers. Thank you Xondat.

4) The screw in and clip in stabilizers I ordered originally.  Recalled I didn't order the premium kit.

5) The missing screws (2xCountersink 1xpanhead)

6) A switch plate, which I will pay 50% of assuming the above are fulfilled.



Here is an album of pictures of my Exent: https://imgur.com/a/aLPlc

These photos we're taken within 10 minutes of unboxing the keyboard.

Thanks.

This is pretty ****ed up and I sympathize.

One thing you might want to note, however: You have to manually enable the LEDs in the configurator.  If you haven't already, you should try that before you call it dead.  It's my understanding that they aren't enabled out of the box... for some reason.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 01 December 2017, 22:45:52

[snip]


EDIT: upon further inspection it looks like screw overtightening... the screws don't come tightened, so i've heard from a few people

looks like he just ****ed up and wants yutski to fix it
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 01 December 2017, 23:10:22
So I received my Exent, and imagine my elation when I discover the following, progressively.

1) Dents in the switch plate, picture in album.

2) Cracks in the polycarbonate bottom, where the foot is mounted. Clearly someone drove those in with an impact driver, because that's how you're supposed to do it . Pictures in album.

3) A pcb in such bad shape literally none of the LEDs work. I have a picture of the PCB plugged in for what it's worth.

4) Parts I ordered were missing. I ordered both clip in and screw in stabilizers, none of which are anywhere to be found in the box I received. I didn't. Thought I did, but I definitely didn't get the premium kit and that's the only one stabilizers come with.

5) Screws, quite literally, missing. Two countersink screws holding the foot to the polycarbonate bottom aren't present, although this is a blessing in disguise somewhat as I'd expect if I had gotten them I would have a polycarbonate bottom with five  cracked countersinks, as opposed to only three. And, one pan-head screw for  holding the switchplate to the case is absent as well.


Speaking now to Juahenza or Yuktsi, here is what I think is reasonable:

1) Send me another PCB, as the LEDs were not fixed even after reflowing the solder on all four leads of each one of them.

2) Send me either (A) an unbroken polycarbonate bottom or (B) an aluminum bottom (siliver). Whichever you have extras for. You do not need to send a second foot, the foot I received is fine.

3) A 8.75$ reimbursement for the stabilizers I just ordered (Costar, from WASD keyboards. Update: I'm not even sure these will work, as the cherry ones I have on hand don't. They don't clip into the switchplate? I.e. are loose? Can anyone fill me in on what's going on here? ) These wouldn't work anyway, and honestly I don't know what stabilizers to buy. PCB mount stabilizers. Thank you Xondat.

4) The screw in and clip in stabilizers I ordered originally.  Recalled I didn't order the premium kit.

5) The missing screws (2xCountersink 1xpanhead)

6) A switch plate, which I will pay 50% of assuming the above are fulfilled.



Here is an album of pictures of my Exent: https://imgur.com/a/aLPlc

These photos we're taken within 10 minutes of unboxing the keyboard.

Thanks.

This is pretty ****ed up and I sympathize.

One thing you might want to note, however: You have to manually enable the LEDs in the configurator.  If you haven't already, you should try that before you call it dead.  It's my understanding that they aren't enabled out of the box... for some reason.

All I did was follow the instructions. I tried the guide posted by catweewee, I tried the SMD repair guide posted by I think codywanks (I think) - for that one I haven't got the ****ing slightest clue what radio button he's talking about, and I even tried looking up "winkeyless bootloader LED guide" or something and followed instructions there to no avail as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 01 December 2017, 23:56:10
You know, I just realized I may be mistaken about missing the stabilizers, i.e. I didn't order the premium kit, which was the one stabs came with (remember, I did order this thing a very long time ago). But I tried some stabilizers I had on hand, costar and cherry, and none of them work in the switchplate. What stabilizers does this thing take? Can someone give me a link? I'm incredibly confused.

The rest still stands. I still have a dead PCB and a broken polycarbonate bottom, missing screws, and an enormous amount of disappointment, but I strip the stabilizer parts from  my request.

Yeah, the cracks in that bottom are radically unacceptable. I'm sure it's impossible to catch everything that comes through QC, and most manufacturer QC processes only check 'x' amount of pieces going out, but even the guy who packaged this should have caught this, it's not some missed chamfer or small scratch that would be easy to miss.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 01 December 2017, 23:58:18
So I received my Exent, and imagine my elation when I discover the following, progressively.

1) Dents in the switch plate, picture in album.

2) Cracks in the polycarbonate bottom, where the foot is mounted. Clearly someone drove those in with an impact driver, because that's how you're supposed to do it . Pictures in album.

3) A pcb in such bad shape literally none of the LEDs work. I have a picture of the PCB plugged in for what it's worth.

4) Parts I ordered were missing. I ordered both clip in and screw in stabilizers, none of which are anywhere to be found in the box I received. I didn't. Thought I did, but I definitely didn't get the premium kit and that's the only one stabilizers come with.

5) Screws, quite literally, missing. Two countersink screws holding the foot to the polycarbonate bottom aren't present, although this is a blessing in disguise somewhat as I'd expect if I had gotten them I would have a polycarbonate bottom with five  cracked countersinks, as opposed to only three. And, one pan-head screw for  holding the switchplate to the case is absent as well.


Speaking now to Juahenza or Yuktsi, here is what I think is reasonable:

1) Send me another PCB, as the LEDs were not fixed even after reflowing the solder on all four leads of each one of them.

2) Send me either (A) an unbroken polycarbonate bottom or (B) an aluminum bottom (siliver). Whichever you have extras for. You do not need to send a second foot, the foot I received is fine.

3) A 8.75$ reimbursement for the stabilizers I just ordered (Costar, from WASD keyboards. Update: I'm not even sure these will work, as the cherry ones I have on hand don't. They don't clip into the switchplate? I.e. are loose? Can anyone fill me in on what's going on here? ) These wouldn't work anyway, and honestly I don't know what stabilizers to buy. PCB mount stabilizers. Thank you Xondat.

4) The screw in and clip in stabilizers I ordered originally.  Recalled I didn't order the premium kit.

5) The missing screws (2xCountersink 1xpanhead)

6) A switch plate, which I will pay 50% of assuming the above are fulfilled.



Here is an album of pictures of my Exent: https://imgur.com/a/aLPlc

These photos we're taken within 10 minutes of unboxing the keyboard.

Thanks.

This is pretty ****ed up and I sympathize.

One thing you might want to note, however: You have to manually enable the LEDs in the configurator.  If you haven't already, you should try that before you call it dead.  It's my understanding that they aren't enabled out of the box... for some reason.

All I did was follow the instructions. I tried the guide posted by catweewee, I tried the SMD repair guide posted by I think codywanks (I think) - for that one I haven't got the ****ing slightest clue what radio button he's talking about, and I even tried looking up "winkeyless bootloader LED guide" or something and followed instructions there to no avail as well.

(https://i.imgur.com/iPTEizf.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 02 December 2017, 00:44:41


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iPTEizf.jpg)


My bootmapper version looks slightly different from yours but yup doesn't work.

Oh my client is Version 0.10.0, if that matters.


I'm gonna keep looking at the PCB, fiddling with reflow etc to see if I get anywhere, but let me just say: after 10 or so months of waiting, this is not an experience I'm pleased with. Not by a long shot.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Sat, 02 December 2017, 01:28:45


My bootmapper version looks slightly different from yours but yup doesn't work.

Oh my client is Version 0.10.0, if that matters.


I'm gonna keep looking at the PCB, fiddling with reflow etc to see if I get anywhere, but let me just say: after 10 or so months of waiting, this is not an experience I'm pleased with. Not by a long shot.

Have you tried other versions of the client? Even though it's a small chance maybe it's a compability thing, 0.8.3 here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3bn9flirkb49ahz/BootMapperClient.zip?dl=0
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 02 December 2017, 02:16:41


My bootmapper version looks slightly different from yours but yup doesn't work.

Oh my client is Version 0.10.0, if that matters.


I'm gonna keep looking at the PCB, fiddling with reflow etc to see if I get anywhere, but let me just say: after 10 or so months of waiting, this is not an experience I'm pleased with. Not by a long shot.

Have you tried other versions of the client? Even though it's a small chance maybe it's a compability thing, 0.8.3 here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3bn9flirkb49ahz/BootMapperClient.zip?dl=0

I'll give it a test.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 02 December 2017, 03:14:45
This is so much unacceptable!! Your polycarb bottom is totally ****ed up.. how dare they send this!?
And the pcb led issueis not something acceptable either! As I already told, it could be an “easy “ fix, or not! And as it is now demonstrate it can not be easy at all!

For the remaining order we want:
* FULLY FUNCTIONAL QC PCB!!! Fix them yourself before shipping!
* QC the rest of the keyboard pieces! We don’t want broken/scratch/dent part!!

If clearly think this is not too much to ask!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 02 December 2017, 06:18:59
We didn’t send any cracked polycarbonate, nor a pcb like what you mentioned. Every parts were QC and assembled before packing and shipping.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 02 December 2017, 06:21:07
This is so much unacceptable!! Your polycarb bottom is totally ****ed up.. how dare they send this!?
And the pcb led issueis not something acceptable either! As I already told, it could be an “easy “ fix, or not! And as it is now demonstrate it can not be easy at all!

For the remaining order we want:
* FULLY FUNCTIONAL QC PCB!!! Fix them yourself before shipping!
* QC the rest of the keyboard pieces! We don’t want broken/scratch/dent part!!

If clearly think this is not too much to ask!
We QC every parts. PCB with no leds at all was immediately put aside. Same goes to the bottom and all. Please.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 02 December 2017, 06:48:06
This is so much unacceptable!! Your polycarb bottom is totally ****ed up.. how dare they send this!?
And the pcb led issueis not something acceptable either! As I already told, it could be an “easy “ fix, or not! And as it is now demonstrate it can not be easy at all!

For the remaining order we want:
* FULLY FUNCTIONAL QC PCB!!! Fix them yourself before shipping!
* QC the rest of the keyboard pieces! We don’t want broken/scratch/dent part!!

If clearly think this is not too much to ask!
We QC every parts. PCB with no leds at all was immediately put aside. Same goes to the bottom and all. Please.


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Anyway, I don’t know wich one to trust here, but the pictures are not looking good!

Also, the most important part of my message was about getting 100% functional pcb for the remainder order that have not shipped yet!
You did not answer this part.

This would be much better that you fix this, incase the fix is not easy, we will gain time infine (if you have to replace pcb you can do it directly, not adding further wait!).

Please tell us it is possible!!
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Sat, 02 December 2017, 07:11:33
This is so much unacceptable!! Your polycarb bottom is totally ****ed up.. how dare they send this!?
And the pcb led issueis not something acceptable either! As I already told, it could be an “easy “ fix, or not! And as it is now demonstrate it can not be easy at all!

For the remaining order we want:
* FULLY FUNCTIONAL QC PCB!!! Fix them yourself before shipping!
* QC the rest of the keyboard pieces! We don’t want broken/scratch/dent part!!

If clearly think this is not too much to ask!
We QC every parts. PCB with no leds at all was immediately put aside. Same goes to the bottom and all. Please.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Anyway, I don’t know wich one to trust here, but the pictures are not looking good!

Also, the most important part of my message was about getting 100% functional pcb for the remainder order that have not shipped yet!
You did not answer this part.

This would be much better that you fix this, incase the fix is not easy, we will gain time infine (if you have to replace pcb you can do it directly, not adding further wait!).

Please tell us it is possible!!

The trust question is indeed an interesting one, especially as PancakeMSTR has a history of very negative opinions towards the group buy for some time and might be a bit biased.

The cracks look to me as if they are the result of applying too much torque to the screws aka. pulling them too tight during assembly of the feet.

Has anyone else received cracked screw holes like that?

Anyways you should be careful during assembly, as polycarbonate can indeed be quite brittle and prone to cracking.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 02 December 2017, 07:31:04
This is so much unacceptable!! Your polycarb bottom is totally ****ed up.. how dare they send this!?
And the pcb led issueis not something acceptable either! As I already told, it could be an “easy “ fix, or not! And as it is now demonstrate it can not be easy at all!

For the remaining order we want:
* FULLY FUNCTIONAL QC PCB!!! Fix them yourself before shipping!
* QC the rest of the keyboard pieces! We don’t want broken/scratch/dent part!!

If clearly think this is not too much to ask!
We QC every parts. PCB with no leds at all was immediately put aside. Same goes to the bottom and all. Please.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Anyway, I don’t know wich one to trust here, but the pictures are not looking good!

Also, the most important part of my message was about getting 100% functional pcb for the remainder order that have not shipped yet!
You did not answer this part.

This would be much better that you fix this, incase the fix is not easy, we will gain time infine (if you have to replace pcb you can do it directly, not adding further wait!).

Please tell us it is possible!!

The trust question is indeed an interesting one, especially as PancakeMSTR has a history of very negative opinions towards the group buy for some time and might be a bit biased.

The cracks look to me as if they are the result of applying too much torque to the screws aka. pulling them too tight during assembly of the feet.

Has anyone else received cracked screw holes like that?

Anyways you should be careful during assembly, as polycarbonate can indeed be quite brittle and prone to cracking.


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Agreed, it definitely look like crack due to too much torque when screwing the poly bottom. I don want to tell who I do not trust here... But it just look like the LED issue that some people discover! They DID NOT tell us before people received it and post it here! Then they said "we QC the PCB and none with 0 LED working went out".. meaning what...? Two led not working was acceptable? 3? 4? The only acceptable is 0! It should work, of course **** can happen, and one PCB not functioning correctly for 1 or 2 people can be ok... But here it appears that a lot of people are affected by this!

So yes, with all the good will in the world, I have now some doubt with all the 'QC' process.. I would hope PancakeMSTR as cracked himself the poly bottom due to bad handling and now try to blame it on the GB (no offense), but there is still some strong doubt! We will see if there is other people affected by this. If he is the only one, maybe it is his fault, or bad luck with one not well QC unit.

In the meantime, I really want an answer regarding the fix of the remaining PCB before sending them!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 02 December 2017, 10:26:01
We didn’t send any cracked polycarbonate, nor a pcb like what you mentioned. Every parts were QC and assembled before packing and shipping.


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I'm not convinced, but regardless I received a damaged polycarbonate bottom and need a replacement. If you did send it unbroken, then you failed to pack it well enough to prevent it from becoming damaged in shipment. The damage to the base is your responsibility. And, out of the box, I cannot get a single LED to light up on the PCB.


kacase: I don't like you, and I've made that extremely clear I think. But nonetheless, you're absolutely right. I am at times aggressive, unreasonable, impolite, and insulting. However, I do not lie. I received a damaged polycarbonate bottom, plain and simple.  There is also no way that I handled it in a way that could have produced that cracking. I am extremely careful around this stuff. My PCB is also experiencing every issue I've said it is.

The most motivating reason I have of convincing you that I'm telling the truth is that there is no reason to go through all this trouble for a duplicate polycarbonate bottom. Why would I put myself through this trouble?  Trust me all I wanted was to build my keyboard and, honestly, stop coming to this thread entirely.

Also I admitted that the absent stabilizers were my fault, I simply hadn't ordered them, and rescinded my requests for them.

To be honest if I were to speculate about something, it would be that I was deliberately sent a damaged product, the reason for this being that in the relatively recent past I haven't been friendly to the behavior of the group buy leadership.

Time to get in the habit of recording opening packages from group buys....

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 02 December 2017, 10:43:18
What kind of insurance is there on the shipping of these? I know it's not ideal, but if the shipping company is to blame for both the PCB and polycarbonate bottom maybe we need to contact them about PancakeMSTR's package and have them reimburse the damages. If they reimburse in full then you could use that money to get PancakeMSTR replacement parts.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 02 December 2017, 10:45:25
What kind of insurance is there on the shipping of these? I know it's not ideal, but if the shipping company is to blame for both the PCB and polycarbonate bottom maybe we need to contact them about PancakeMSTR's package and have them reimburse the damages. If they reimburse in full then you could use that money to get PancakeMSTR replacement parts.

Considering the PCB was rattling around loose in the keyboard body it's conceivable it was damaged in shipping, but I maintain that it's virtually impossible for the base damage to have occurred during shipping. I'll talk to some folks about it though. Maybe do some testing of my own.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Sat, 02 December 2017, 11:25:27
Time to get in the habit of recording opening packages from group buys....

Oh my god.. If mine ever gets shipped out I am seriously considering asking someone to record the package opening process. :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 02 December 2017, 12:53:12
Just for reference, I've linked in this comment to some pictures of the box (I didn't take the time to timestamp them, but I will if that's a serious point of contention). Looks in pretty decent shape to me, and the foam the keyboard was packed in is perfect (again, if this is a serious point of contention I'll photograph that as well). I can't even imagine the kind of trauma the box would have had to have gone through to produce those cracks in the polycarbonate, it just doesn't make sense to me. My keyboard was shipped broken.

Pictures of box: https://imgur.com/a/Y4kt8

I'm going to see if I have some suitable polycarbonate scrap lying around to do some testing with.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gajible on Sat, 02 December 2017, 12:57:23
Just for reference, I've linked in this comment to some pictures of the box (I didn't take the time to timestamp them, but I will if that's a serious point of contention). Looks in pretty decent shape to me, and the foam the keyboard was packed in is perfect (again, if this is a serious point of contention I'll photograph that as well). I can't even imagine the kind of trauma the box would have had to have gone through to produce those cracks in the polycarbonate, it just doesn't make sense to me. My keyboard was shipped broken.

Pictures of box: https://imgur.com/a/Y4kt8

I'm going to see if I have some suitable polycarbonate scrap lying around to do some testing with.

It's almost like the post office overtightened the screws!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Sat, 02 December 2017, 14:40:37
Just for reference, I've linked in this comment to some pictures of the box (I didn't take the time to timestamp them, but I will if that's a serious point of contention). Looks in pretty decent shape to me, and the foam the keyboard was packed in is perfect (again, if this is a serious point of contention I'll photograph that as well). I can't even imagine the kind of trauma the box would have had to have gone through to produce those cracks in the polycarbonate, it just doesn't make sense to me. My keyboard was shipped broken.

Pictures of box: https://imgur.com/a/Y4kt8

I'm going to see if I have some suitable polycarbonate scrap lying around to do some testing with.

It's almost like the post office overtightened the screws!
Haha!

At least some people don’t lose their sense of humour :)


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: oatmicro on Sat, 02 December 2017, 15:05:08
That Polycarb bottom looks overtightened to me, no way that can be a transit damaged.

Take this as a lesson and be more careful next time when you build a keyboard my friend.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 02 December 2017, 15:29:51
That Polycarb bottom looks overtightened to me, no way that can be a transit damaged.

Take this as a lesson and be more careful next time when you build a keyboard my friend.

Are you suggesting I did it? This is how the keyboard arrived, out of the box. The foot was already attached, and not by me.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sat, 02 December 2017, 15:36:29
That Polycarb bottom looks overtightened to me, no way that can be a transit damaged.

Take this as a lesson and be more careful next time when you build a keyboard my friend.
the polycarb bottoms come already attached and tightened to the boards. entirely possible that it came broken.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 02 December 2017, 15:36:52

[snip]


EDIT: upon further inspection it looks like screw overtightening... the screws don't come tightened, so i've heard from a few people

looks like he just ****ed up and wants yutski to fix it

This is not true. If I had done this to the keyboard myself, I would have taken complete responsibility. I don't know how other people's boards arrived, but this is how I received mine, period. I would not come here and lie.

Jesus I really should have videoed opening the box. I'm sorry that in my excitement to see a keyboard I've been waiting for for ten months I didn't take the time to setup a camera. Next time I will.

It came assembled, with the foot attached to the polycarb, the switch plate bolted to the aluminum case, the PCB sandwhiched between the top case and polycarb bottom, and with the polycarb bottom attached to the aluminum top case.

That is how I received it, out of the box. I then carefully removed the four screws holding the polycarb bottom to the aluminum top. I think I inspected the aluminum parts and then at some point a little later, 5 maybe 10 minutes, noticed the cracks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 02 December 2017, 15:39:05
That Polycarb bottom looks overtightened to me, no way that can be a transit damaged.

Take this as a lesson and be more careful next time when you build a keyboard my friend.

Pancakemaster can be kind of a **** but I don't believe he is lying about this.

Regardless I really hope all issues get addressed and we see fewer and fewer issues upon delivery.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 02 December 2017, 16:22:41
I don't know what else to say about the polycarb. It came broken. I am not interested in cheating anyone out of anything, and I am not the type of person to not accept responsibility for his actions or mistakes. I did not crack the polycarbonate.

Meanwhile, I'm still unable to get a single LED to light up. Tried reflowing a few more leads that looked suspect, but no dice. This should put to rest the statement of Yuktsi's that they didn't ship boards with no LEDs working, because that is how mine came, and is still behaving. Though, to be fair, the PCB was shipped completely loose between the top and the bottom of the keyboard, so maybe it was damaged in shipping. But this means they should have packed it better, and doesn't fundamentally change the responsible party.

Additionally, I've been looking closely at the PCB and noticed some pads without components. Now I don't know if this is deliberate, but I thought I'd mention it in case that's the problem. I've attached an album of these spots on the PCB, as well as a photo of the PCB plugged in with the bootloader open. I'm on slow internet right now but I can post a video of me trying to get the thing to light up later.

Meanwhile, Album: https://imgur.com/a/ouPxw

Additionally, I've found an LED that looks in extremely bad shape. What do I do? Should I remove it? Or do I need to replace it outright? Or do I have to remove it and then jump the position, e.g. solder leads in so that it doesn't "break the chain" or whatever?

Yeah I'm looking at this LED under a microscope (literally) right now and it's absolutely wrecked. I can't actually tell if the leads are broken, but it sure looks a mess. I'll take a picture later and post it. It is the one circled in my imgur album.

So yeah, what's my next step here with this bad LED?

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 02 December 2017, 16:49:47
Again speaking to Yuktsi and Juahenza:

I continue to have a cracked polycarbonate bottom (that, regardless of how or when it happened, was delivered to me this way, with the foot attached, cracked), missing screws, and a PCB with no functional LEDs, despite my best efforts (e.g. reflowing leads, twice now).

These parts need replacing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 02 December 2017, 17:00:11
I wonder if the poly bottom could have cracked because of temperature changes in transit?

It really does look like it was just over tightened when they put it together; I would think you would hear it crack or at the very least see it before packaging. I'm sure it must have happened during shipping.

Regardless I hope you get it replaced.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 02 December 2017, 17:06:06
I wonder if the poly bottom could have cracked because of temperature changes in transit?

It really does look like it was just over tightened when they put it together; I would think you would hear it crack or at the very least see it before packaging. I'm sure it must have happened during shipping.

Regardless I hope you get it replaced.

Interesting thought, that seems possible to me. Doesn't help that steel and polycarb have wildly different coefficients of thermal expansion.

See: https://www.eskade.pl/en,polycarbonate,parameters.html

In that case, they really really shouldn't be shipping these things with the foot bolted to the polycarb. That should happen on arrival by the end user.

I hope I get it replaced too, I really do. That's all I want,  to have the polycarb replaced and the PCB fixed or replaced, and I'm honestly really broken up about it. All the more upsetting that people are accusing me of lying.

Without question  the aluminum top is absolutely nothing short of spectacular, which makes it all the more important to me to get this thing perfect.


Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sat, 02 December 2017, 18:49:02
If I may, there is one explanation that satisfies the situation assuming no one is lying.

1) Pancake - it came this way
2) Yutski - we don't tighten the screws down

So if we've got a weight loosely screwed into the bottom, so that there is movement allowed then you could've transformed the assembly into a form of a slide hammer.

Picture the screw as the end of the hammer and the weight as the pull, working on the acrylic layer. How many bounces, how many tosses would be needed to crack that acrylic?

Thermal expansion is another likely explanation and these could go together. Shipping them assembled is probably not a great idea.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: N3RDLY on Sat, 02 December 2017, 19:32:11
Just for reference, I've linked in this comment to some pictures of the box (I didn't take the time to timestamp them, but I will if that's a serious point of contention). Looks in pretty decent shape to me, and the foam the keyboard was packed in is perfect (again, if this is a serious point of contention I'll photograph that as well). I can't even imagine the kind of trauma the box would have had to have gone through to produce those cracks in the polycarbonate, it just doesn't make sense to me. My keyboard was shipped broken.

Pictures of box: https://imgur.com/a/Y4kt8 (https://imgur.com/a/Y4kt8)

I'm going to see if I have some suitable polycarbonate scrap lying around to do some testing with.

It's almost like the post office overtightened the screws!

THOSE MONSTERS. Should have used DHL next time I hear they don't over tighten screws after it was delivered. I feel bad for TARO having to deal with people who try to screw their pcbs into China.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 02 December 2017, 20:03:37
If I may, there is one explanation that satisfies the situation assuming no one is lying.

1) Pancake - it came this way
2) Yutski - we don't tighten the screws down

So if we've got a weight loosely screwed into the bottom, so that there is movement allowed then you could've transformed the assembly into a form of
Show Image
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Picture the screw as the end of the hammer and the weight as the pull, working on the acrylic layer. How many bounces, how many tosses would be needed to crack that acrylic?

Thermal expansion is another likely explanation and these could go together. Shipping them assembled is probably not a great idea.

I think I understand what you're saying. So the foot wasn't loose, as far as I recall. It wasn't just flopping around, it seemed to be reasonably solidly attached. I literally didn't touch the screws until after I noticed the cracking.

I purchased some Lexan and M3 screws on amazon today. I am going to do some testing to try and get an idea of what kind of torque is required to crack polycarbonate.

To suggest someone is lying is a very serious allegation (not that you, specifically, are Terry). I do not know what caused the cracks in my polycarbonate bottom, but it wasn't me.

I have been completely transparent about what has happened in my case. I have provided multiple pictures, and I will provide more or video on request.

I am doing testing, being as transparent as I can be, etc because I understand that this is an environment in which scammers are difficult or impossible to expose. I can't even express how sorry I am that I didn't film my unboxing of the keyboard, I'm absolutely depressed over it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 02 December 2017, 20:21:58
Anyway, we will look into the issues with the polycarbonate bottom and PCB.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 02 December 2017, 21:06:05
I've seen another instance of a cracked bottom but the buyer is fine with it.

Anyway you can just ship mostly un-assembled?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 02 December 2017, 21:12:24
I've seen another instance of a cracked bottom but the buyer is fine with it.

Anyway you can just ship mostly un-assembled?

I would like to second the request - if addressing the problem is as simple as not sending feet et al screwed in I'm all for that being the case once my premium kit ships.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 02 December 2017, 21:13:30
Anyway, we will look into the issues with the polycarbonate bottom and PCB.


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What does this mean with regards to getting a replacement for the cracked bottom I received? I wasn't afforded the option to have my keyboard shipped disassembled, or aware for that matter that having it shipped disassembled might have not resulted in a cracked bottom.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 02 December 2017, 21:55:53
I’ll check mine tomorrow if it’s cracked


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Minha on Sat, 02 December 2017, 22:06:30
Anyway, we will look into the issues with the polycarbonate bottom and PCB.


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What does this mean with regards to getting a replacement for the cracked bottom I received? I wasn't afforded the option to have my keyboard shipped disassembled, or aware for that matter that having it shipped disassembled might have not resulted in a cracked bottom.

nigga did u try to skate on it?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Sat, 02 December 2017, 22:56:07
Is this bottom-row layout possible on the Exent?

https://imgur.com/GVIZNKJ

No if fine. I will otherwise go for 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 2.25, 1.25, 2.75, 1.5, 1.5, 1, 1, 1 bottom row.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 02 December 2017, 23:10:55
Is this bottom-row layout possible on the Exent?

https://imgur.com/GVIZNKJ

No if fine. I will otherwise go for 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 2.25, 1.25, 2.75, 1.5, 1.5, 1, 1, 1 bottom row.

Without seeing the PCB to verify, based on the plate photos and the images in the OP it looks like it would support it. 

I dont have one to confirm though.

edit:  well nvm, idk if 1.5 1.5 will work, OP has 1u it looks like.

Going off of catweewee's photos https://imgur.com/a/p0HkI looks like there are quite a few options so you could probably get it pretty close.

(https://i.imgur.com/1IBGbGo.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Sat, 02 December 2017, 23:27:20
Is this bottom-row layout possible on the Exent?

https://imgur.com/GVIZNKJ

No is fine. I will otherwise go for 1.25, 1.25, 1.25, 2.25, 1.25, 2.75, 1.5, 1.5, 1, 1, 1 bottom row.

Without seeing the PCB to verify, based on the plate photos and the images in the OP it looks like it would support it. 

I dont have one to confirm though.

edit:  well nvm, idk if 1.5 1.5 will work, OP has 1u it looks like.

Going off of catweewee's photos https://imgur.com/a/p0HkI looks like there are quite a few options so you could probably get it pretty close.

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I saw the 1.5/1.5 layout on the layouts section of the OP.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Sun, 03 December 2017, 01:54:48
PancakeMSTR’s theory of the different thermal expansion coefficients is quite interesting and could explain the cracks.

As stainless steel does expand and contract a lot less than polycarbonate when temperatures change, the strain caused perpendicular to the screws could be enough to cause those cracks.

The higher the temperature changes, the higher the strain. If the keyboards are assembled in a relatively warm country at let’s assume 30 degrees Celsius and shipped by plane with temperatures of less than -30, the temperature difference would be at least 60kelvin.

A quick calculation for Stainless Steel shows that the Stainless Steel part would contract about 0.5mm while the polycarbonate contracts about 1.5mm

I am not sure how much space there is between the screws and the holes, but it is quite likely that it is a lot less than the 1mm in difference that is the result of thermal contraction.

If you guys are interested I can do a full calculation and document it, so you can follow it; also taking into account the strain caused on the carbonate and the safety factor before they break.


In any case I would suggest not shipping the feet attached to the polycarb bottoms anymore.
Shipping connected parts with different thermal expansion coefficients is a very common reason for damage even with industrial appliances.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 03 December 2017, 02:01:11
PancakeMSTR’s theory of the different thermal expansion coefficients is quite interesting and could explain the cracks.

As stainless steel does expand and contract a lot less than polycarbonate when temperatures change, the strain caused perpendicular to the screws could be enough to cause those cracks.

The higher the temperature changes, the higher the strain. If the keyboards are assembled in a relatively warm country at let’s assume 30 degrees Celsius and shipped by plane with temperatures of less than -30, the temperature difference would be at least 60kelvin.

A quick calculation for Stainless Steel shows that the Stainless Steel part would contract about 0.5mm while the polycarbonate contracts about 1.5mm

I am not sure how much space there is between the screws and the holes, but it is quite likely that it is a lot less than the 1mm in difference that is the result of thermal contraction.

If you guys are interested I can do a full calculation and document it, so you can follow it; also taking into account the strain caused on the carbonate and the safety factor before they break.


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I'd be interested in hearing an expansion of yours on, well I guess, the thermal expansion and associated stresses the polycarbonate and steel could have gone through in shipping. And it was assembled in the Philippines right? It's 26C there as of writing this comment.

Also, it was in fact Terry Mathews who initially brought up the thermal expansion idea.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 03 December 2017, 02:41:51
i'm no engineer, but i bugged a friend who is about this a bit earlier, here's some paraphrasing

thermal coefficient theory is pretty bogus, most airplane windows are polycarbonate (albeit probably a higher grade), and besides, those are clearly radial fractures from over-tightening or an object puncture, not temperature damage

thermal fracturing would split the whole piece in half, not fracture locally like in these pictures

i've shipped/recieved lots of polycarb parts overseas, both by boat and by air, and it has always comes out fine -- look at the TGR A.17, for example, or the polycarb duck viper cases

i've heard from 4 people now (including pancake) of similar cracking (radial fractures around the screw closest to the USB port, and one ****ed corner)

i doubt it was anything malicious, that just doesn't fit with the rest of the puzzle

i'm sure yutski is looking into it and will offer an explanation once it's solved

above all, this is devolving into a ****show and i'm gonna stay out of this for a few days until further updates are provided
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: alexfry on Sun, 03 December 2017, 02:47:15
This is actually half the reason I wanted to be in this group buy.

The complicated issues involved with producing actual physical objects, then moving them around the planet, at any sort of scale, are fascinating.
It's easy to sort of assume, from an outsider layman's perspective, that all of this stuff is as easy as knocking something out in a 3D app, and sending it to the printer/CNC machine.

Are these issues surprising? Not really, this is in reality a 1st run. There are going to be issues. Issues that can be worked through, but issues.
The Rama M10-A seemed to have various manufacturing niggles along the way, but even as a casual observer, I felt like I had a better grip on what was going on.

The bit I find disappointing is despite this being defended as a "community project", there has been much opportunity for "community" involvement. It's been very much us and them. I can't help but think everyone would be more understanding if we actually felt involved, but it's become a customer vs company vibe, which is a bummer.

The material expansion sleuthing is cool, I just wish it wasn't in isolation.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 03 December 2017, 04:28:25
i'm no engineer, but i bugged a friend who is about this a bit earlier, here's some paraphrasing

thermal coefficient theory is pretty bogus, most airplane windows are polycarbonate (albeit probably a higher grade), and besides, those are clearly radial fractures from over-tightening or an object puncture, not temperature damage

thermal fracturing would split the whole piece in half, not fracture locally like in these pictures

i've shipped/recieved lots of polycarb parts overseas, both by boat and by air, and it has always comes out fine -- look at the TGR A.17, for example, or the polycarb duck viper cases

i've heard from 4 people now (including pancake) of similar cracking (radial fractures around the screw closest to the USB port, and one ****ed corner)

i doubt it was anything malicious, that just doesn't fit with the rest of the puzzle

i'm sure yutski is looking into it and will offer an explanation once it's solved

above all, this is devolving into a ****show and i'm gonna stay out of this for a few days until further updates are provided

You are misunderstanding what they are saying the issue is with thermal expansion. It’s not that any of the materials themselves cannot survive the temperature shifts. It’s that if the board was assembled and the screws were tight fitting, the rate of expansion between the two materials would expand/contract at different rates so the stress would crack the housing.

TBH, it would be easy to prove. Just assemble a board and then toss it in a freezer lol.

I think the screws being loose sounded more plausible.

The other thing to consider is impacts. The foot can’t flex, the plexi can, the case can’t. If something somehow impacted the foot even if it was just like pressure applied to the foot by the packaging. It could put stress specifically on the center bolt because of how the base would curve if it flexed. Lever effects and all that Jazz.

Either way, I’m sure they will make it right. People need to calm down on that one. No matter what the issue is, it would have been hard to detect until it happened.

What they should do is not attach the foot (if they are) and then instead of screws like stretch wrap or tape the parts together. I assume their packaging expects the board to be assembled. They could use foam or felt or something between the case and the foot if they really wanted to. But regardless without a screw that shouldn’t be an issue. The screws can just go in a bag lol.

That would mitigate most of the potential issues I could think of.

Upside is that part looks injection molded to me. If an injection mold already exists it would be cheap to replace, and they likely ordered extras.

Before the lynch mob starts give them time to investigate.


They totally should be fixing the pcbs themselves tho.  :-\
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sun, 03 December 2017, 04:59:29
The flex part is more likely to happend.. the thermal dilatation could.. be keep in mind the screw would have been tightened in Asia, in a hot place. The high thermal delta would be towards negative temperature.. meaning that the poly would contract and not expend (I did not check but from my knowledge, very few material increase in volume when cooled , except the msot famous one, water!). So it would have make the screw loose and not overtight...

Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 03 December 2017, 14:34:51
The flex part is more likely to happend.. the thermal dilatation could.. be keep in mind the screw would have been tightened in Asia, in a hot place. The high thermal delta would be towards negative temperature.. meaning that the poly would contract and not expend (I did not check but from my knowledge, very few material increase in volume when cooled , except the msot famous one, water!). So it would have make the screw loose and not overtight...

If the poly is wrapped tightly around a screw and it contracts it breaks because it has no room to contract. That’s the entire discussion lol

The issue is the plastic contracts around the screw which contacts more slowly.



Quote
Cracking

Unexpected cracking by polycarbonate is often due to stress corrosion. Remember that both tensile stress and an attacking chemical are needed. The stress can either be applied stress, residual stress or both. An example of applied stress: a female pipe thread tapped into the polycarbonate part. The male thread screws into it and the taper expands the female part, putting it into tension. Residual stress comes from quenched in stress, after dropping out of the mold, when the different areas of the part cool at different rates. Applied stress has to be designed out of the part by varying the cross sectional thickness of the part. Residual stress gets annealed out. The time and temperature is dependent on the particular plastic. A quick check to tell if residual stress is present in a transparent polycarbonate part is to place a polarized filter or even a pair of polarized sunglasses in front of a light bulb and let the now polarized light shine through the part.

http://www.nhml.com/polycarbonate-high-performance-engineering-thermoplastic/

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Sun, 03 December 2017, 16:06:31


nigga did u try to skate on it?



tbh looks like someone got a little trigger happy w/ the drill.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 03 December 2017, 22:30:30
Amnesia (sorry meant alexfry) I think you hit the nail on the head, this feels like less of a community driven thing and a fight that we all know between customer and company. Very disheartening.

As for the cracked polycarb bottom, I'm amazed that other people have suffered from this problem and were okay enough with it to not say anything. Or maybe they did and I missed it? I don't know. At any rate, regardless of how other people feel, I consider the damage done to be unacceptable.

As I said, I bought some lexan and m3 screws, which will arrive this week. I've already measured the thickness of polycarbonate where the foot mounts, and I'll machine the lexan I bought to that same thickness (approximately), punch and countersink some holes, and see what kind of torque you need to crack it. I'm not sure if I think it's going to be a little or a lot.

Maybe I'll make some attempts at testing thermal stress stuff while I'm at it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: catweewee on Mon, 04 December 2017, 02:59:37
Amnesia I think you hit the nail on the head, this feels like less of a community driven thing and a fight that we all know between customer and company. Very disheartening.

As for the cracked polycarb bottom, I'm amazed that other people have suffered from this problem and were okay enough with it to not say anything. Or maybe they did and I missed it? I don't know. At any rate, regardless of how other people feel, I consider the damage done to be unacceptable.

As I said, I bought some lexan and m3 screws, which will arrive this week. I've already measured the thickness of polycarbonate where the foot mounts, and I'll machine the lexan I bought to that same thickness (approximately), punch and countersink some holes, and see what kind of torque you need to crack it. I'm not sure if I think it's going to be a little or a lot.

Maybe I'll make some attempts at testing thermal stress stuff while I'm at it.


Hey Pancake, I ordered 2 exents and both of my bottoms were were fine. Everything was intact. I shipped one of them all the way to Dubai and it was fine too.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Mon, 04 December 2017, 07:18:30
totally forgot about this, cant wait to get this board, looks like they are starting to move
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Mon, 04 December 2017, 08:05:35
We will continue pack and ship for this week. Still yet to hear anything back from the anodizing side. I will personally make a visit to the fac if we still don't hear back by Wednesday. As much as I would love to do it sooner. I have a medical appointment to attend tmr, to follow up on my surgery last week.

The PCB that we have shipped, we had put aside for the PCB that had less than a certain amount of working LEDs. It's rather strange that some of the delivered PCBs have only 1 or 2 LEDs light up. We will fix all the PCB for the unassembled ones, and will also include some extras in case of anything. As for the cracked polycarbonate, we will look into the problem as none of the defective bottoms was shipped.

The EXENT project was never about profit in the first place. We had agreed to the increase in cost for better quality anodizing. Also the increase shipping cost, from 2kg to 3.5kg due to the volumetric size of the board. We are at a point where we are chipping in our own money on this project. Would appreciate a little more patience and understanding, as we will always be around to ensure that all orders are delivered. By the end of the day, I hope it's worthwhile for us to go through all this stresses and hassles.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Mon, 04 December 2017, 08:10:31
add a FAQ, that's what they're for

Problem with that is only 1 person can edit it, and he's the busiest among us.

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Regarding the issue at hand - To those of you insinuating the polycarbonate base was cracked during assembly and was negligently shipped out anyway, consider these points.

1) The feet were attached to the bottoms using a bog-standard L-shaped 1.5mm Allen key. The longer end was used to drive the screws in for better reachability. The short arm measures only 1.6cm, i.e. just enough room for 1 thumb and 1 forefinger to operate (with a less-than-ideal grip).

(https://imgur.com/4Cvkz2t.jpg) (https://imgur.com/gqVilcU.jpg)   (https://imgur.com/EM5PWPL.jpg) (https://imgur.com/ZRcSslN.jpg)

If you believe this could generate enough torque to crack the PC, you probably should go re-take your high school physics exam.

2) There is little reason or incentive we would have to overtighten these. Doing one dozen screws is already enough to make someone’s fingers go numb due to how small and fiddly the tool is. Doing a few hundred screws (while overtightening them) would have given us blisters.

3) No power tools/power drivers were ever used at any stage of the assembly process. Even if we wanted to buy one we couldn’t afford it, given this GB is destined to lose money by the time all the issues are sorted out.

4) If you refuse to believe points 1-3 above, well, I went ahead and disassembled some spare kits that were put together on the same day as Pancake’s just to have a look. None were cracked or damaged.

My own Exent did not suffer any cracks in the PC either.

(https://imgur.com/B42u1VA.jpg) (https://imgur.com/tWOVUWH.jpg)

5) As for the missing screws - it was intended as such. Everyone only got 3 screws in their feet, the other 2 were designed to be redundant thus left unpopulated. Same thing with the bottom middle plate screw.

I’m just chiming in based on what I know from being involved. As for remedial measures, I’m sure the GB leadership is close to deciding the best course of action moving forward and shall make an announcement in due time.

*edit: spacing
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 04 December 2017, 08:50:05
Thanks for the update juahenza. I really appreciate that you check and fix the remaining PCB before sending. I am in no hurry to get this. Take your time. I am very happy to know I will have this board in a near futur and I want to to be as perfect as possible :D !
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 04 December 2017, 11:30:57
K guys, Catweewee, Juahenza, Codywanks, Yuktsi, et al. Please read the following in full:

I'm actually inclined to believe you that the polycarbonate bottoms shipped uncracked. I haven't done my own testing yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes an enormous amount of torque to crack the polycarbonate. So much that you'd have to be actively trying to over torque the screws. Again, haven't done my own testing yet, but I could easily see this being the case.

I'd like to think that would put to rest the accusations that I overtightened the screws as well. Especially considering the base came with the foot attached, so I had no reason to even touch the screws at all until after I noticed the cracking.

I also did nothing else that could have possibly caused those cracks. For example, if I dropped the keyboard on a hard surface, likely there would be additional visible damage to almost every part: The foot, the aluminum case, the polycarbonate. And I'm talking dents, gashes, dings, not just cracks necessarily. On request, I will take pictures/video of every square inch of the parts I received to show you that there is no such damage to my keyboard.

This means that, in all likelihood, whatever caused the polycarbonate to crack didn't happen on my end, and didn't happen on your end, and probably happened in transit.

However, it's highly likely that what caused the cracks, possibly thermal expansion/contraction, was a function of how the keyboard was shipped, i.e. with the foot attached to the polycarbonate. I don't know which of you chose to ship the keyboard this way, but I had no say in the process. Another possibility is that, if it was taken out of the box for inspection, maybe the person inspecting it dropped it. But, again, you'd expect visible impact damage to the keyboard body and I don't see any.

Thus, I think it's fair to say that you are responsible for the damage, and responsible for replacing the part. Basically, until the keyboard is out of the box and in my hands, its condition is your responsibility.

Fundamentally, I received a damaged keyboard, and need to get the damaged parts replaced. When I chose to buy this keyboard, I put my trust in you, the group by leaders. Please don't betray that trust.

And, for I hope the last time, if I had caused this damage, I wouldn't be here asking for a replacement polycarbonate bottom, I would be here asking if I could buy a replacement.

Finally, I frankly don't care that some of the Exents didn't get cracked in transit. **** how I wish that were the case with me. But this is how mine arrived, apparently I'm not an entirely isolated case, so obviously there is some percentage of Exents that are fine on delivery, and some that aren't.

Also, I've continued tinkering with the PCB and have I think verified that, quite literally, every single LED is DOA. My plan is to simply replace them, and this brings me to my updated set of requests:

Juahenza, Yuktsi, etc:

- My PCB was delivered with no functional LEDs. Either replace the PCB, or reimburse me between 10$ and 15$ for replacement LED modules (18xWS8212b). I'll get an exact amount, in the form of receipts/confirmation emails, once I've ordered them.

- My polycarbonate bottom was delivered cracked. I cannot fix this part myself, and so it must be replaced. Again, I don't need a replacement foot, so please don't send the base with anything attached to it. I don't want a repeat cracked bottom. I will also, this time, film opening the package when I receive it.


Thanks. 


Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Mon, 04 December 2017, 12:02:00
and this brings me to my updated set of requests:

Bro, how about taking a step back, catching a breather and let them deal with it.  You act like you are the only person in this GB.  How about you let other people get their boards, see what else/if anything else gets damaged during shipping or whatever and let them take care of it after.  We know you have damaged parts, we've all seen the last 50 million of your posts.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 04 December 2017, 13:38:29
I would imagine he's waiting for them to acknowledge that they will correct the situation so that he can start building.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Mon, 04 December 2017, 14:39:14
Also requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Mon, 04 December 2017, 14:55:29
Also requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Mon, 04 December 2017, 15:08:27
Also requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.


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Actually, I feel the same way.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Mon, 04 December 2017, 15:09:17
Also requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.


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Actually, I feel the same way.

third
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 04 December 2017, 16:02:46
I've made my grievances and requests public deliberately. There is no formally defined claim process that I am aware of, so I chose that path inclusive of the community, as opposed to closed between myself and the group buy leaders. If nothing else, I'd figure it useful information for everyone to see the claims procedure for someone who received a defective product, in the unfortunate instance that they end up in a position similar to my own. But more than that, being public has already proved its worth for at minimum identifying the source of a condition causing the polycarbonate to fail in transit, namely shipping it attached to the steel foot, and so this can be corrected for in future shipments.

Nonetheless, not only do I welcome, but absolutely encourage Juahenza or Yuktsi to contact me privately. Though, aside from irrelevant details or private information, I intend to continue publicly updating my situation.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 04 December 2017, 16:59:21
Also requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.


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Actually, I feel the same way.

third

Gotta love the "community" projects where the community says its every man for themselves.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 04 December 2017, 17:07:54
Also requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.


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Actually, I feel the same way.

third

Gotta love the "community" projects where the community says its every man for themselves.
no kidding
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Mon, 04 December 2017, 17:21:19
Also requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.


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Actually, I feel the same way.

third

Gotta love the "community" projects where the community says its every man for themselves.
no kidding

Showing the defects to identify their reason and show people what to look out for is good and should be encouraged.

What I/we don’t believe should be in this thread are specific requests for a specific order. Such as: “I didn’t receive stabs with my order #282 pls refund me 12,75€” or similar. This is something that should be between the GB Organizers and the buyer until a solution has been found or too much time has passed.

“I got refunded the 12,75€ for the Stabs” or “I still haven’t received an nascent after a month” would be fine, because that is useful information for everyone.

Not all information is relevant and interesting to everyone I this GB. And our point was to try to keep that information out of this thread, in order to not waste everyone’s time.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 04 December 2017, 17:42:08
Also requests like this don’t belong in the general discussion. You should keep them in a private conversation via pm or email and not clutter this thread... although it’s probably already too late for that.


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Actually, I feel the same way.

third

Gotta love the "community" projects where the community says its every man for themselves.
no kidding

Showing the defects to identify their reason and show people what to look out for is good and should be encouraged.

What I/we don’t believe should be in this thread are specific requests for a specific order. Such as: “I didn’t receive stabs with my order #282 pls refund me 12,75€” or similar. This is something that should be between the GB Organizers and the buyer until a solution has been found or too much time has passed.

“I got refunded the 12,75€ for the Stabs” or “I still haven’t received an nascent after a month” would be fine, because that is useful information for everyone.

Not all information is relevant and interesting to everyone I this GB. And our point was to try to keep that information out of this thread, in order to not waste everyone’s time.

++

i'm often guilty of threadcrapping, but i agree with this hard
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 04 December 2017, 17:58:43

What I/we don’t believe should be in this thread are specific requests for a specific order. Such as: “I didn’t receive stabs with my order #282 pls refund me 12,75€” or similar. This is something that should be between the GB Organizers and the buyer until a solution has been found or too much time has passed.


This is your opinion, but I don't think it's necessarily an invalid one. There are two reasons I've been so detailed:

- One: The proportion of my comments that are requests of this type is tiny, i.e. compared with all the crap I have to say, the parts that are highly specific requests are practically negligible, sometimes even within individual comments.

- Two: I'm making my requests transparent to the community. Not necessarily that's it's their business what I think I'm entitled to given the condition of what I received, but it is a litmus test for everyone.

Although I'm of course in part responsible, what I think clutters up the thread are discussions about what should or should not be included in the thread, but even this has its value.

And of course I understand the value of "I got sent a replacement polycarbonate bottom" vs. "Please refund my $7.32 for 7 and a half WS8212b SMD RGB LED modules." But again, the ratio of request:content is very low, and I want to be open, so I've decided to keep stuff like that in my comments.

You said it yourself, but I'm going to rephrase if you'll allow it: "What's interesting to some isn't to others, and vice versa."

Best to be all inclusive.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Mon, 04 December 2017, 18:51:14
I don't want to take sides but in PancakeMSTR's defense before he and others started making a fuss we didn't really have any communication from the GB runners. If that's what it takes to get a dialogue going or even a simple status update on a severely delayed GB (yes, I am very aware GB's get delayed..) then I guess that's just the way things work around here..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 04 December 2017, 22:34:14
So I've tried reflowing the solder points for LED #1 and still no luck. it only glows green so who do I contact about this?
Anyone have any luck who had faulty LEDs? This is super disappointing. I've soldered switches and inswitch LEDs but I'm not a professional.
Really wish I had the option of having one of the GB runners fix the PCB instead of sending it out to me partially functional.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 04 December 2017, 22:53:58
and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: catweewee on Mon, 04 December 2017, 23:11:06
So I've tried reflowing the solder points for LED #1 and still no luck. it only glows green so who do I contact about this?
Anyone have any luck who had faulty LEDs? This is super disappointing. I've soldered switches and inswitch LEDs but I'm not a professional.
Really wish I had the option of having one of the GB runners fix the PCB instead of sending it out to me partially functional.

Can you take a picture of it plugged it. Easier to tell that way
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 04 December 2017, 23:17:56
So I've tried reflowing the solder points for LED #1 and still no luck. it only glows green so who do I contact about this?
Anyone have any luck who had faulty LEDs? This is super disappointing. I've soldered switches and inswitch LEDs but I'm not a professional.
Really wish I had the option of having one of the GB runners fix the PCB instead of sending it out to me partially functional.

Can you take a picture of it plugged it. Easier to tell that way
this is what it looks like(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/40b0431b8b1f2dfcaa750a3c501817e1.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 05 December 2017, 00:38:21
**** Demorior....Looks like we're both similarly afflicted. I feel for you.

Look I'm gonna try fixing the PCB myself, if I have luck I'll get back to you with my results. Maybe even have you send the PCB to me and I'll do it for you pro bono, but I want to make sure I know what the fix is. Also pick yourself up some Sci Grip 4 (or something) polycarbonate/acrylic glue as a temporary measure to fill the cracks. Use a syringe to apply it, capillary action will take care of the rest. Will keep it in decent shape until a replacement arrives.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 05 December 2017, 04:25:03
#crackgate  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Tue, 05 December 2017, 06:11:54
#crackgate  ;D

Good thing I got that alu bottom :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 05 December 2017, 06:57:57
and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)


Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)


As far as I can tell there are only 2 ways this can happen.

PC is strong.  They use it in riot shields and motorcycle windscreens for ****'s sake.  It has great thermal properties and it's not going to crack by simply being installed in a thick metal case and shipped around the globe.  No way.  It was either mistreated at some point, or the manufacturer supplied an inferior material.

I haven't received mine yet so I have no way to tell.  From the literature I'm seeing there might be some simple ways to detect chemically-induced stress in polycarb.  Maybe we can find out on our own.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 05 December 2017, 07:09:10
#crackgate  ;D

Good thing I got that alu bottom :D

Same same :D !
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: catweewee on Tue, 05 December 2017, 07:17:55
So I've tried reflowing the solder points for LED #1 and still no luck. it only glows green so who do I contact about this?
Anyone have any luck who had faulty LEDs? This is super disappointing. I've soldered switches and inswitch LEDs but I'm not a professional.
Really wish I had the option of having one of the GB runners fix the PCB instead of sending it out to me partially functional.

Can you take a picture of it plugged it. Easier to tell that way
this is what it looks like
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/40b0431b8b1f2dfcaa750a3c501817e1.jpg)



Alright, can you tell me what steps you took so I can try and figure what else I can do to help you.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 05 December 2017, 08:20:57
Dang, another cracked polycarbonate bottom. Between this and the huge number of faulty PCBs I'm starting to get pretty worried about what shape my board is going to arrive in.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: pomk on Tue, 05 December 2017, 09:02:08
and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)


Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)


As far as I can tell there are only 2 ways this can happen.
  • The parts are cleaned with a reactive solvent after machining.  This induces critical strain in the polymer that leads to stress fractures after a load is applied (by the screws).
  • The material is not polycarbonate.  It could be acrylic or some other brittle polymer.

PC is strong.  They use it in riot shields and motorcycle windscreens for ****'s sake.  It has great thermal properties and it's not going to crack by simply being installed in a thick metal case and shipped around the globe.  No way.  It was either mistreated at some point, or the manufacturer supplied an inferior material.

I haven't received mine yet so I have no way to tell.  From the literature I'm seeing there might be some simple ways to detect chemically-induced stress in polycarb.  Maybe we can find out on our own.
While I agree that it _is_ strong, I highly doubt that it can be stretched, by pushing from the screw holes, even by a millimeter without cracking something. UPS guarantees a temperature range of -60 C to 70 C for air freight. In this temperature range the difference in sizing of steel and polycarbonate over 250 mm (approximate distance between the screw holes) is about two full millimeters.

Polycarbonate and steel are widely incompatible when it comes to thermal expansion, as polycarbonate has about six times higher expansion rate compared to steel.

As someone said before, this can be easily tested by stuffing one assembled bottom piece to a freezer and seeing what happens. If you think that it is too much, I would suggest checking the pricing of temperature controlled shipping.  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Tue, 05 December 2017, 09:20:48
and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)


Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)


Holy, that’s too bad.

Even keyboards made of weaker acrylic hardly happen cracks. When it comes to solidity, I heard that polycarbonate is about 40 times stronger than acrylic. If these cracks continue to happen consistently, it must be a serious issue.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 05 December 2017, 14:03:09
and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)


Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)


As far as I can tell there are only 2 ways this can happen.
  • The parts are cleaned with a reactive solvent after machining.  This induces critical strain in the polymer that leads to stress fractures after a load is applied (by the screws).
  • The material is not polycarbonate.  It could be acrylic or some other brittle polymer.

PC is strong.  They use it in riot shields and motorcycle windscreens for ****'s sake.  It has great thermal properties and it's not going to crack by simply being installed in a thick metal case and shipped around the globe.  No way.  It was either mistreated at some point, or the manufacturer supplied an inferior material.

I haven't received mine yet so I have no way to tell.  From the literature I'm seeing there might be some simple ways to detect chemically-induced stress in polycarb.  Maybe we can find out on our own.
While I agree that it _is_ strong, I highly doubt that it can be stretched, by pushing from the screw holes, even by a millimeter without cracking something. UPS guarantees a temperature range of -60 C to 70 C for air freight. In this temperature range the difference in sizing of steel and polycarbonate over 250 mm (approximate distance between the screw holes) is about two full millimeters.

Polycarbonate and steel are widely incompatible when it comes to thermal expansion, as polycarbonate has about six times higher expansion rate compared to steel.

As someone said before, this can be easily tested by stuffing one assembled bottom piece to a freezer and seeing what happens. If you think that it is too much, I would suggest checking the pricing of temperature controlled shipping.  :))
The cases are aluminum.  I kind of doubt these keyboards are experiencing the full temperature range in transit, but it's interesting information anyway.  We should factor for air pressure differences while we're at it.   ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 05 December 2017, 14:17:01
The cases are aluminum.  I kind of doubt these keyboards are experiencing the full temperature range in transit, but it's interesting information anyway.  We should factor for air pressure differences while we're at it.   ;)

Better add proximity to magnetic fields and radiation too, just in case.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 05 December 2017, 14:18:20
The cases are aluminum.  I kind of doubt these keyboards are experiencing the full temperature range in transit, but it's interesting information anyway.  We should factor for air pressure differences while we're at it.   ;)

Better add proximity to magnetic fields and radiation too, just in case.

OK, just to be safe, I'm writing an equation to account for gravity waves, dark matter, AND dark energy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 05 December 2017, 14:20:48
The cases are aluminum.  I kind of doubt these keyboards are experiencing the full temperature range in transit, but it's interesting information anyway.  We should factor for air pressure differences while we're at it.   ;)

Better add proximity to magnetic fields and radiation too, just in case.

OK, just to be safe, I'm writing an equation to account for gravity waves, dark matter, AND dark energy.

Plug everything into the PEBKAC equation too
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: pomk on Tue, 05 December 2017, 16:51:13
and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)


Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)


As far as I can tell there are only 2 ways this can happen.
  • The parts are cleaned with a reactive solvent after machining.  This induces critical strain in the polymer that leads to stress fractures after a load is applied (by the screws).
  • The material is not polycarbonate.  It could be acrylic or some other brittle polymer.

PC is strong.  They use it in riot shields and motorcycle windscreens for ****'s sake.  It has great thermal properties and it's not going to crack by simply being installed in a thick metal case and shipped around the globe.  No way.  It was either mistreated at some point, or the manufacturer supplied an inferior material.

I haven't received mine yet so I have no way to tell.  From the literature I'm seeing there might be some simple ways to detect chemically-induced stress in polycarb.  Maybe we can find out on our own.
While I agree that it _is_ strong, I highly doubt that it can be stretched, by pushing from the screw holes, even by a millimeter without cracking something. UPS guarantees a temperature range of -60 C to 70 C for air freight. In this temperature range the difference in sizing of steel and polycarbonate over 250 mm (approximate distance between the screw holes) is about two full millimeters.

Polycarbonate and steel are widely incompatible when it comes to thermal expansion, as polycarbonate has about six times higher expansion rate compared to steel.

As someone said before, this can be easily tested by stuffing one assembled bottom piece to a freezer and seeing what happens. If you think that it is too much, I would suggest checking the pricing of temperature controlled shipping.  :))
The cases are aluminum.  I kind of doubt these keyboards are experiencing the full temperature range in transit, but it's interesting information anyway.  We should factor for air pressure differences while we're at it.   ;)
The foot is steel.
The problem here is that the shipping company has to pay nothing if the problem is due to the temperature differences, as it is listed in the terms of service.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 05 December 2017, 17:35:49
and holy ****, i just took a closer look at the poly bottom and mine is cracked too. have literally not touched this bolt at all...

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/1182d33ebd54081827088fa390fefbf1.jpg)


Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/c9c98c19ab1e9ca9216591b5c171a40e.jpg)


As far as I can tell there are only 2 ways this can happen.
  • The parts are cleaned with a reactive solvent after machining.  This induces critical strain in the polymer that leads to stress fractures after a load is applied (by the screws).
  • The material is not polycarbonate.  It could be acrylic or some other brittle polymer.

PC is strong.  They use it in riot shields and motorcycle windscreens for ****'s sake.  It has great thermal properties and it's not going to crack by simply being installed in a thick metal case and shipped around the globe.  No way.  It was either mistreated at some point, or the manufacturer supplied an inferior material.

I haven't received mine yet so I have no way to tell.  From the literature I'm seeing there might be some simple ways to detect chemically-induced stress in polycarb.  Maybe we can find out on our own.
While I agree that it _is_ strong, I highly doubt that it can be stretched, by pushing from the screw holes, even by a millimeter without cracking something. UPS guarantees a temperature range of -60 C to 70 C for air freight. In this temperature range the difference in sizing of steel and polycarbonate over 250 mm (approximate distance between the screw holes) is about two full millimeters.

Polycarbonate and steel are widely incompatible when it comes to thermal expansion, as polycarbonate has about six times higher expansion rate compared to steel.

As someone said before, this can be easily tested by stuffing one assembled bottom piece to a freezer and seeing what happens. If you think that it is too much, I would suggest checking the pricing of temperature controlled shipping.  :))
The cases are aluminum.  I kind of doubt these keyboards are experiencing the full temperature range in transit, but it's interesting information anyway.  We should factor for air pressure differences while we're at it.   ;)
The foot is steel.
The problem here is that the shipping company has to pay nothing if the problem is due to the temperature differences, as it is listed in the terms of service.
I ran some very quick numbers with a more conservative temperature range (4.44 to 35.0°C) and found a difference of only 0.4mm across the entire 250mm length; 0.1mm expansion for the PC and 0.5mm expansion for the steel.  I'm using linear temperature expansion coefficients of 0.000012 for steel and 0.0000675 for "standard" polycarbonate.  It's fall/winter across the Northern Hemisphere so I think this temperature range is probably more representative of the real world. 

Moreover, the photographic evidence suggests the stress occurs radially from the screw center and not from linear "stretching" along the length of the board/foot.  I'm not a materials scientist so you can take all this with a grain of salt, but I would expect a difference in thermal expansion to cause fractures in a linear pattern matching the "faces" of polycarb most closely aligned with the expanding metal -- fractures pointing out, away from the relative center.  We don't see that here.  If there's expansion relative to the foot then it's probably not an issue.

I'd like to suggest that, if there's thermal expansion at play here, perhaps it's between the screw and the screw hole.  Material expansion would naturally translate to the screw growing and the hole shrinking relative to each other.  If the PC bottoms were machined with very tight tolerance at the screw holes that could definitely be a problem, and could produce the pattern of cracking that we've seen so far.

Or it could even be some critical combination of over-tightening AND thermal expansion -- a "snug" screw head expanding down into the PC while the PC expands up into the fastener.   :confused:

But all this assumes the materials start life at the lowest temp and build up to the extreme highest temp at some unknown point in the journey.  We know that can't be the case -- they aren't manufactured and assembled in Antarctica.  So the baseline is really somewhere around 25-30°C with only 10-20° differences ± in transit.  That should equate to negligible changes in thermal expansion AND contraction -- maybe half a millimeter both ways.  So I'm not really sure where we go from here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Tue, 05 December 2017, 17:39:53
seems like long story short they should ship the parts disassembled as many manufacturers do
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 05 December 2017, 18:05:47
I ran some very quick numbers with a more conservative temperature range (4.44 to 35.0°C) and found a difference of only 0.4mm across the entire 250mm length; 0.1mm expansion for the PC and 0.5mm expansion for the steel.  I'm using linear temperature expansion coefficients of 0.000012 for steel and 0.0000675 for "standard" polycarbonate.  It's fall/winter across the Northern Hemisphere so I think this temperature range is probably more representative of the real world. 

I think you got the numbers swapped, the PC expands more than the steel.

Moreover, the photographic evidence suggests the stress occurs radially from the screw center and not from linear "stretching" along the length of the board/foot.  I'm not a materials scientist so you can take all this with a grain of salt, but I would expect a difference in thermal expansion to cause fractures in a linear pattern matching the "faces" of polycarb most closely aligned with the expanding metal -- fractures pointing out, away from the relative center.  We don't see that here.  If there's expansion relative to the foot then it's probably not an issue.

Even more moreover, it's expanding/contracting relative to the center screw, so one would expect the center screw to not have any cracking, yet the pictures show the center screw having the worst cracking.

I'd like to suggest that, if there's thermal expansion at play here, perhaps it's between the screw and the screw hole.  Material expansion would naturally translate to the screw growing and the hole shrinking relative to each other.  If the PC bottoms were machined with very tight tolerance at the screw holes that could definitely be a problem, and could produce the pattern of cracking that we've seen so far.

Or it could even be some critical combination of over-tightening AND thermal expansion -- a "snug" screw head expanding down into the PC while the PC expands up into the fastener.   :confused:

However, the amount of expansion/contraction of the screw/screwhole is tiny. If we're talking about a 0.4mm difference over 250mm, the difference at 3mm (M3 screw/hole diameter) is proportionally smaller, so small that I think it falls well below the "bugger all" threshold.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 05 December 2017, 18:57:36

I think you got the numbers swapped, the PC expands more than the steel.


Hah!  I totally did.  Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 05 December 2017, 19:39:23
Remember that the keyboard would likely have been assembled warm, and then flown in a very cold airplane. Temperature difference between Malaysia and The northwest isn't what matters, it's the difference between Malaysia and air temperature at 30,000 feet. Unless the airplane cargo hold is heated and pressurized, which I imagine it isn't. Also was it flown or transported by ship? That makes a difference I think.

Then, two things happen: One, the polycarbonate hole shrinks against the threads and head. Meanwhile, the the polycarbonate pulls together against the two screws on the end. I'm not saying it's thermal expansion, but I still can believe it.

Anyway it's a moot point from the perspective of those of us who received defective products, we need parts replaced until we have in hand what we paid money for.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 05 December 2017, 20:39:31
Remember that the keyboard would likely have been assembled warm, and then flown in a very cold airplane. Temperature difference between Malaysia and The northwest isn't what matters, it's the difference between Malaysia and air temperature at 30,000 feet. Unless the airplane cargo hold is heated and pressurized, which I imagine it isn't. Also was it flown or transported by ship? That makes a difference I think.

Then, two things happen: One, the polycarbonate hole shrinks against the threads and head. Meanwhile, the the polycarbonate pulls together against the two screws on the end. I'm not saying it's thermal expansion, but I still can believe it.

Anyway it's a moot point from the perspective of those of us who received defective products, we need parts replaced until we have in hand what we paid money for.

Two things.

1. Cold shrinks.  These boards are all being manufactured, tested, and assembled at some ambient ground-level temperature.  Maybe the factory and the anodizer's shop are a little warmer on average than juahenza's house, but they're in a pretty stable range.  The materials aren't being machined and drilled at some extreme hot or cold that would throw off their tolerances.  And anyway, if they experienced significant cold on the journey they would tend to shrink, not expand. 

2. Most of these boards aren't getting on a plane until they hit the destination country, and only when logistics dictate.  Yes, cargo aircraft are heated.  Most are kept above 40°F and some are heated even more to accommodate "live" cargo.  Temperatures at 35,000 feet can reach -60°F and that's bad for business.  Keeping cargo above freezing on a cross-country flight is not expensive.

Images from FedEx:
(https://i.imgur.com/kyOjR0M.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/KJSv5VG.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Tue, 05 December 2017, 20:50:12
Man I should get some popcorn for this **** its getting crazy good. "Who cracked the polycarb? Stay tuned to find out!"
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 05 December 2017, 20:56:40
Data - my scenario involved the polycarbonate shrinking.

I never stated that the cracking was definitively a thermal effect. And given the information you just posted I'm not even sure if I consider that the likely culprit. Indeed, I really don't actually know what caused it. Can we even agree at this point that it's due to the polycarbonate being shipped with the foot attached? Maybe.

Again, though, it kinda doesn't matter. It didn't happen on the receiving end, i.e. as a function of customer error, so it happened, or whatever caused it  happened, while it was effectively in the care of the group buy leadership, and is thus their responsibility.

Speaking of whom, I'd like to hear from them at some point.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 05 December 2017, 21:15:42
To whoever said the areas around the screws shouldn't be the coldest, you are wrong. Plastic is an insulator, metal is a thermal conductor. The plastic parts touching metal will always be the coldest/hottest points because the metal will pull the heat from the plastic. The center hole would be the most impacted as it is the furthest from any direct heat source. Basically the foot works like a heatsink. Now whether or not this is the problem remains to be seen, but it COULD be.

Other things to check:

If you install the left and right bolts, is the center hole correctly centered between the foot and the base?

Is there any sort of chemical on the screws? Lube, machine oil, etc?
Was the foot cleaned before being installed (for chemicals, as if for example there was still machine oil in one of the threads, that could cause issues)?
Are all the threads in the foot the same depth, could the center hole for example be slightly (less than 1mm) deeper and the screw head itself is cracking the plastic?
Are the holes milled to the same size?
Are the holes clean? Are there any burrs or anything else that could cause uneven force distribution?


Were the screw holes predrilled? (To avoid cracking polycarbonate, you normally drill out a smaller hole and then ream it out bigger so cut is clean):

http://www.ameriluxinternational.com/faq.php

Quote
Q. Can panels be nailed into place instead of screwing?
A. It is not recommended to nail sheets rather than screw.  Polycarbonate expands in hot weather and contracts in cold. Pre-drill and screw panels in place to allow for panel expansion and contraction with temperature changes.

Q. Is it necessary to pre-drill holes before installing polycarbonate sheets?
A. When it comes to the installation of polycarbonate sheets, pre-drilling is a must! Pre-drilling allows for the sheets to expand and contract due to changes in temperature. Failure to pre-drill can result in the sheet warping and/or cracking around the screw.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 05 December 2017, 21:50:28
To whoever said the areas around the screws shouldn't be the coldest, you are wrong. Plastic is an insulator, metal is a thermal conductor. The plastic parts touching metal will always be the coldest/hottest points because the metal will pull the heat from the plastic. The center hole would be the most impacted as it is the furthest from any direct heat source. Basically the foot works like a heatsink. Now whether or not this is the problem remains to be seen, but it COULD be.

Other things to check:

If you install the left and right bolts, is the center hole correctly centered between the foot and the base?

Is there any sort of chemical on the screws? Lube, machine oil, etc?
Was the foot cleaned before being installed (for chemicals, as if for example there was still machine oil in one of the threads, that could cause issues)?
Are all the threads in the foot the same depth, could the center hole for example be slightly (less than 1mm) deeper and the screw head itself is cracking the plastic?
Are the holes milled to the same size?
Are the holes clean? Are there any burrs or anything else that could cause uneven force distribution?


Were the screw holes predrilled? (To avoid cracking polycarbonate, you normally drill out a smaller hole and then ream it out bigger so cut is clean):

http://www.ameriluxinternational.com/faq.php

Quote
Q. Can panels be nailed into place instead of screwing?
A. It is not recommended to nail sheets rather than screw.  Polycarbonate expands in hot weather and contracts in cold. Pre-drill and screw panels in place to allow for panel expansion and contraction with temperature changes.

Q. Is it necessary to pre-drill holes before installing polycarbonate sheets?
A. When it comes to the installation of polycarbonate sheets, pre-drilling is a must! Pre-drilling allows for the sheets to expand and contract due to changes in temperature. Failure to pre-drill can result in the sheet warping and/or cracking around the screw.
We will discuss with the manufacturer. By the way, Juahenza will put up a google sheet form at the 2nd post of this thread later for those have received cracked bottom.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 06 December 2017, 02:43:39
Do you have a rough ETA on the premium kits shipping out?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 06 December 2017, 08:07:23
Do you have a rough ETA on the premium kits shipping out?

When I asked last page I was told they'd start shipping out not this week but the next.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 06 December 2017, 08:30:56
Do you have a rough ETA on the premium kits shipping out?

When I asked last page I was told they'd start shipping out not this week but the next.

Ah thanks, must have missed that. Fingers crossed that's the case!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 06 December 2017, 09:01:19
We will discuss with the manufacturer. By the way, Juahenza will put up a google sheet form at the 2nd post of this thread later for those have received cracked bottom.

Thanks.  I don't know if any of this information is useful to you guys.  We're just entertaining ourselves trying to figure out the cause(s) of the cracking while we wait to hear from you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 06 December 2017, 18:23:18
#crackgate  ;D

Good thing I got that alu bottom :D

Same same :D !

I got both...   :-[
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Wed, 06 December 2017, 18:34:03
Saw some pictures of a black EXENT on Reddit today and it looked just as awful and smudgy as the dark gray did when I first brought that to attention (which, side note: If I had not asked why they looked so bad here in this thread, would this GB have just shipped awful dark grey cases to everyone? Seems like it.) Not holding out a lot of hope for good news on the dark gray case front.

Between the bad cases, the cracked poly carb, the silence... this has been an epic disaster.

When people first started complaining about all the big names attached to this and saying they should be held accountable... I was not really in agreement. But the deeper this disaster goes, the clearer it becomes to me that those well-known names were used to convince a lot of people to join an expensive buy which was being run by a crew not actually capable of delivering. I don't have past history with Juahenza but just from this GB alone it's starting to feel like this was a large promise that could not possibly have been fulfilled. If not that, then apparently literally everything went wrong and they can't fix it.

Either way, this has turned into quite a depressing situation.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Wed, 06 December 2017, 19:03:55
Saw some pictures of a black EXENT on Reddit today and it looked just as awful and smudgy as the dark gray did when I first brought that to attention (which, side note: If I had not asked why they looked so bad here in this thread, would this GB have just shipped awful dark grey cases to everyone? Seems like it.) Not holding out a lot of hope for good news on the dark gray case front.

Between the bad cases, the cracked poly carb, the silence... this has been an epic disaster.

When people first started complaining about all the big names attached to this and saying they should be held accountable... I was not really in agreement. But the deeper this disaster goes, the clearer it becomes to me that those well-known names were used to convince a lot of people to join an expensive buy which was being run by a crew not actually capable of delivering. I don't have past history with Juahenza but just from this GB alone it's starting to feel like this was a large promise that could not possibly have been fulfilled. If not that, then apparently literally everything went wrong and they can't fix it.

Either way, this has turned into quite a depressing situation.

Just saw that one, and it did look smudged. I'd like to give the GB runners the benefit of the doubt, but that seems difficult to do while considering the facts of this buy.

While retaining full self-awareness and a strong desire to avoid being dramatic, I don't at this point find it overly dramatic to say that I no longer look forward to receiving the four boards I ordered, and am considering preemptively having the charges to my credit card reversed, unless the GB runners can come out and state unequivocally that any issues with remaining stock to be shipped will be fixed in their entirety before shipping.

If such a statement is not made with clarity and specifics in the next few days, it seems like self-infliction to simply wait for damaged boards to arrive, at which point I would be making it more difficult for myself to secure a credit card charge reversal. While this is definitely something I consider a last resort, and while I do wish the best for the GB runners, at some point self-preservation kicks in when it's becoming more and more clear that timeliness is being prioritized over quality, which is not acceptable in my humble view.

I don't want a broken product earlier; I'd like the advertised product when it is ready. Thanks for reading. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 06 December 2017, 19:14:22
https://imgur.com/a/92obp (https://imgur.com/a/92obp)

I'm going to PM Juahenza and Yuktsi but I thought I'd share pics of the issues with the EXENT I received today: 2 cracked weight holes and half the RGB LEDs not working - and I fully understand that could mean only 1 defective, but it could also mean all the unlit are defective. Won't know till I start reflowing/replacing.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 06 December 2017, 19:25:57
I no longer look forward to receiving the four boards I ordered,

Four boards; wow. I can't imagine having that much money tied up in this GB.

I'm really hoping the smudges in those Reddit pics are from finger grime. Because boy are they noticeable. That's the first time I've seen any imperfections on a black case.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 06 December 2017, 19:45:59
I no longer look forward to receiving the four boards I ordered,

Four boards; wow. I can't imagine having that much money tied up in this GB.

I'm really hoping the smudges in those Reddit pics are from finger grime. Because boy are they noticeable. That's the first time I've seen any imperfections on a black case.

They aren't. It was gone over earlier that the grey anodizing went bad and is, apparently, being redone.

More cracked cases. And still no information from Juahenza/Yuktsi. Things are basically in damage control mode at this point. And where is that google form from Juahenza? I don't see it yet.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Wed, 06 December 2017, 19:57:44
Saw some pictures of a black EXENT on Reddit today and it looked just as awful and smudgy as the dark gray did when I first brought that to attention (which, side note: If I had not asked why they looked so bad here in this thread, would this GB have just shipped awful dark grey cases to everyone? Seems like it.) Not holding out a lot of hope for good news on the dark gray case front.

Between the bad cases, the cracked poly carb, the silence... this has been an epic disaster.

When people first started complaining about all the big names attached to this and saying they should be held accountable... I was not really in agreement. But the deeper this disaster goes, the clearer it becomes to me that those well-known names were used to convince a lot of people to join an expensive buy which was being run by a crew not actually capable of delivering. I don't have past history with Juahenza but just from this GB alone it's starting to feel like this was a large promise that could not possibly have been fulfilled. If not that, then apparently literally everything went wrong and they can't fix it.

Either way, this has turned into quite a depressing situation.

Just saw that one, and it did look smudged. I'd like to give the GB runners the benefit of the doubt, but that seems difficult to do while considering the facts of this buy.

While retaining full self-awareness and a strong desire to avoid being dramatic, I don't at this point find it overly dramatic to say that I no longer look forward to receiving the four boards I ordered, and am considering preemptively having the charges to my credit card reversed, unless the GB runners can come out and state unequivocally that any issues with remaining stock to be shipped will be fixed in their entirety before shipping.

If such a statement is not made with clarity and specifics in the next few days, it seems like self-infliction to simply wait for damaged boards to arrive, at which point I would be making it more difficult for myself to secure a credit card charge reversal. While this is definitely something I consider a last resort, and while I do wish the best for the GB runners, at some point self-preservation kicks in when it's becoming more and more clear that timeliness is being prioritized over quality, which is not acceptable in my humble view.

I don't want a broken product earlier; I'd like the advertised product when it is ready. Thanks for reading.

That's how I've been feeling lately.  There is little joy left in this groupbuy for me.  No reports about the dark gray, cracked bottoms, and boards that fail to perform correctly.  And it seems like we get these very short, jaded versions of responses.  I've been in heavily delayed groupbuys, but none that delivered a damage product and just cut communication whenever they felt like it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 06 December 2017, 20:08:10
I have probably owned most of the Kustom ever made, I dare to say EXENT's anodizing is probably the best that I've seen. We have paid extra for the smooth satin kinda finishing. It is also more challenging for machining side as a very fine sandblasting doesn't cover machining lines very well. I understand that this may be the most expensive board some of you ever bought. But you are getting a lot more than what others paid for at the same price point. Stainless steel and polycarbonate is not something especially easy to deal with as compared material like aluminum. Then again, EXENT has the largest block of aluminum as compared to many. It's not easy to deal with such huge front surface area for handling and anodizing.

The issues with the poly-carbonate bottoms and PCB are rather unfortunate. Let's be fair, I am not saying that others did not, but we are taking all the responsibilities for the mishap. Not once that we blame the manufacturer or the shipping company, again, I am not implying that others did. Juahenza is the one who insisted on the very low markup in the beginning, and he is extremely apologetic that we need to be chipping in money now.

Btw, Juahenza has picked up most of the grey tops yesterday. I am not joining them today, but Cody or Juahenza will post some pic as they pack later.

I don't know what to say anymore.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 06 December 2017, 20:28:45

...

I don't know what to say anymore.

While I appreciate your mea culpa, I'd much rather have:
1) An acknowledgment that defective parts will be replaced
2) Compensation for unshipped parts
3) A timetable on when issues will be fixed - that is realistic in length and can be achieved

While I can certainly acknowledge that replacing my PC bottom is less important than shipping the rest of the GB board, at the same time I am unwilling to wait another 9 months for replacement.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 06 December 2017, 22:50:09

...

I don't know what to say anymore.

While I appreciate your mea culpa, I'd much rather have:
1) An acknowledgment that defective parts will be replaced
2) Compensation for unshipped parts
3) A timetable on when issues will be fixed - that is realistic in length and can be achieved

While I can certainly acknowledge that replacing my PC bottom is less important than shipping the rest of the GB board, at the same time I am unwilling to wait another 9 months for replacement.

Just gonna quote this and post it because it identically reflects my feelings, except maybe that I consider replacing the broken/defective parts as important as shipping out the rest of the boards.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Thu, 07 December 2017, 00:10:52
Hey guys,

Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:

(https://imgur.com/7xcU3KU.jpg) (https://imgur.com/4RWvRaz.jpg)

And here's another pic contrasting a Black top:

(https://imgur.com/7c6s0gv.jpg) (https://imgur.com/OGrlC1X.jpg)

Here's some pics of the brass plates as well:

(https://imgur.com/nPRZnBE.jpg) (https://imgur.com/X2FF9iH.jpg)   (https://imgur.com/ZpSMgyJ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/PYgcEaA.jpg)

Will post pics of the 12deg feet and GMK set once I figure out which boxes they're in.

________


While I appreciate your mea culpa, I'd much rather have:
1) An acknowledgment that defective parts will be replaced
2) Compensation for unshipped parts
3) A timetable on when issues will be fixed - that is realistic in length and can be achieved

We are fiercely intent on ensuring that nobody receives defective parts (cracked poly/faulty PCBs) anymore. This means unpacking and disassembling whatever we put together in the month of November that did not get shipped yet. Whatever PCBs that need fixing will be fixed, and the feet will no longer be shipped attached to the bottoms. This is priority number one for now.

Due to the sheer load of this task (and its abortive nature), I'm not surprised that nobody gave a clear-cut response regarding defective parts yet, but the intention is to indeed have them replaced. It is still too early to give a timetable or estimate on when this will happen simply because we don't know how widespread the problem is, but an update will be given once things become clearer on our end.


...except maybe that I consider replacing the broken/defective parts as important as shipping out the rest of the boards.

To re-emphasize, the priority for now is to stop more defective kits from going out. We will talk replacements/new shipments later.


And it seems like we get these very short, jaded versions of responses.

Well...............
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 07 December 2017, 00:15:32
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Hey guys,

Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:

(https://imgur.com/7xcU3KU.jpg) (https://imgur.com/4RWvRaz.jpg)


And here's another pic contrasting a Black top:

(https://imgur.com/7c6s0gv.jpg) (https://imgur.com/OGrlC1X.jpg)


Here's some pics of the brass plates as well:

(https://imgur.com/nPRZnBE.jpg) (https://imgur.com/X2FF9iH.jpg)
   (https://imgur.com/ZpSMgyJ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/PYgcEaA.jpg)

Will post pics of the 12deg feet and GMK set once I figure out which boxes they're in.

________


While I appreciate your mea culpa, I'd much rather have:
1) An acknowledgment that defective parts will be replaced
2) Compensation for unshipped parts
3) A timetable on when issues will be fixed - that is realistic in length and can be achieved

We are fiercely intent on ensuring that nobody receives defective parts (cracked poly/faulty PCBs) anymore. This means unpacking and disassembling whatever we put together in the month of November that did not get shipped yet. Whatever PCBs that need fixing will be fixed, and the feet will no longer be shipped attached to the bottoms. This is priority number one for now.

Due to the sheer load of this task (and its abortive nature), I'm not surprised that nobody gave a clear-cut response regarding defective parts yet, but the intention is to indeed have them replaced. It is still too early to give a timetable or estimate on when this will happen simply because we don't know how widespread the problem is, but an update will be given once things become clearer on our end.


...except maybe that I consider replacing the broken/defective parts as important as shipping out the rest of the boards.

To re-emphasize, the priority for now is to stop more defective kits from going out. We will talk replacements/new shipments later.


And it seems like we get these very short, jaded versions of responses.

Well...............

Thank you for the update. I for one think that was all anyone was really waiting to hear :D.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Thu, 07 December 2017, 00:25:16
Awesome update. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 07 December 2017, 00:30:30
Alright, well as long as you are (A) planning on replacing broken parts (e.g. cracked polycarbonate) and (B) doing it in a reasonable time frame  (I understand dealing with the issues is non-trivial) I'm happy. For those of us who received dysfunctional PCBs, what are your plans?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Thu, 07 December 2017, 03:07:24
Man, I’m soooo jelly that I didn’t order a brass plate.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Thu, 07 December 2017, 03:48:31
Thanks for the update!!

The gray top look awesome now! Issue can happen, and for me you are dealing with them as much as you can! I am also very happy to hear that you will fix the pcb before shipping. I am really hyped about this board and I cannot wait to feel it in my hands.

Also, just a little missing update: what about alu bottoms? Are they finished?

Thannnnks again!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 07 December 2017, 07:05:19
Gray tops are looking pretty good.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 07 December 2017, 08:43:18
Great update. Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Thu, 07 December 2017, 11:34:07
Woo! Grey tops looks fantastic.  Glad they were given the second go around. Excited to eventually get my kit :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Thu, 07 December 2017, 16:27:14
It might just be the photo or the camera (or me) but some of those tops still look a little splotchy when you zoom in :/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 07 December 2017, 18:49:44
Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:

Do they look a little more grey in person? The grey and the black next to each other look very very similar
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: si on Thu, 07 December 2017, 20:05:15
Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:

Do they look a little more grey in person? The grey and the black next to each other look very very similar

This was probably done because you achieve more consistent results the darker the anodizing. Going back to light gray would have given the same splotchy results in this grade of aluminum. I'd rather have clean anodizing even if it's not quite medium gray than splotchy medium gray.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 07 December 2017, 20:22:22
This was probably done because you achieve more consistent results the darker the anodizing. Going back to light gray would have given the same splotchy results in this grade of aluminum. I'd rather have clean anodizing even if it's not quite medium gray than splotchy medium gray.

That makes sense. My concern is that I got one of each, and I'm not sure I want both if the visual difference is negligible. I initially couldn't decide between one or the other, but it would have been an easy decision if they were nearly identical
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 07 December 2017, 20:45:33
Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:

Thanks for the update, though I find it a bit ridiculous that codywanks, who is not officially part of the crew who is running this GB, is the only person giving us real, relevant information. I appreciate the updates, but don't appreciate the lack of transparency and info directly from the GB runners themselves. Oh well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 07 December 2017, 21:43:45
Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:

Thanks for the update, though I find it a bit ridiculous that codywanks, who is not officially part of the crew who is running this GB, is the only person giving us real, relevant information. I appreciate the updates, but don't appreciate the lack of transparency and info directly from the GB runners themselves. Oh well.

To that end, neither Juahenza nor Yuktsi elected to respond to my PM, although Yuktsi posted in the thread.

Also, I finished reworking the RGB LEDs on my PCB. Had to replace two, the rest are OK. It's kind of sad - I've bought ****-tier stuff on TaoBao that while it doesn't always come perfect, it comes with a baggie of spare parts. As a matter of fact, I used the RGB LEDs from my VE.A clone kit to repair EXENT.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: vwls on Thu, 07 December 2017, 22:31:52
Was so excited to unbox my EXENT tonight!

For what it's worth, I also have cracks in the PC around my screw holes. I also was a little disturbed by that the PCB was floating around in the case throughout shipping. I haven't tested it yet though so there may not be issues there.

Which brings me to my next point. Is there a bootclient for linux or mac? I admit I haven't read every post in this thread so it may have been mentioned already, how can I control my LED's and flash keymappings with a mac or linux machine?

Thanks in advance for any help
 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Fri, 08 December 2017, 01:25:55
The gray top look awesome now!

Gray tops are looking pretty good.  Thanks for sharing.

Woo! Grey tops looks fantastic.

 :thumb:


It might just be the photo or the camera (or me) but some of those tops still look a little splotchy when you zoom in :/

I zoomed in and looked over every square inch of the picture. Can't see what you mean. Had a quick look at a couple of them IRL, still can't see it either.


Do they look a little more grey in person? The grey and the black next to each other look very very similar

This was probably done because you achieve more consistent results the darker the anodizing. Going back to light gray would have given the same splotchy results in this grade of aluminum. I'd rather have clean anodizing even if it's not quite medium gray than splotchy medium gray.

This is correct. I also think Jua and Yuktsi did an amazing job getting the reworked tops back as quickly as they did. When we returned them to the anodizer, I admit I had thought "f**k we're not going to see these back until late January".


Which brings me to my next point. Is there a bootclient for linux or mac?

Look here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67971.0) or here. (http://winkeyless.kr/ps2avrgb-v1-0-firmware-update/) Not sure how well they work though.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Fri, 08 December 2017, 01:28:20
Last update for the week:

Disassembly of previously packed kits are kits are now complete.

We have started packing Grey basic kits with alu plate and 8deg feet, as well as Black basic kits with brass plate and 8deg feet (gnarlsagan I think one of yours falls here). These will start shipping next week.

The stainless steel feet is now separate from the rest of the kit & individually wrapped. The PCBs have also been inspected for proper RGB functionality. This is what the new package layout looks like:

(https://imgur.com/dg57ua4.jpg) (https://imgur.com/MTkBZNL.jpg)

To the people worried that the PCBs are "floating" inside the case, yes, it might seem loose but we've done enough testing to be confident that they're unlikely to get damaged from being shipped in this manner.

I have also taken a bunch of PCBs home to reflow over the weekend. Will probably do them while watching Netflix or something.

(https://imgur.com/IyYID6w.jpg) (https://imgur.com/hDFGnUk.jpg)

I'm heartened to hear that TerryMatthews has successfully reflowed his board. We are thinking of making a Google form to poll others who would like to do the same (the SMD RGB LEDs will of course be supplied by us). Opting to do this would expedite your order and reduce the load on our team.

__________

Finally, I would like to address the people who were expecting to receive their orders by Christmas, but seem to have given up hope.

When I volunteered to help out with the project, we set a goal to ship all poly bottom orders (both basic & premium) by mid-December so you could get them for Christmas. This target would probably have been met, had the issues with the PCBs and cracked poly not surfaced. Unfortunately sh*t happens, and we're doing our best to deal with it. To those who understand & forgive us for this, thanks a lot. Your words of encouragement in this thread does have a positive effect on our working environment. As for those who are still bitter, I do hope you come around sooner or later. I still believe the end product will justify the long wait.

Have a good weekend.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Fri, 08 December 2017, 02:12:55
Snip

Awesome update, thanks. Seperate feets should make sure there aren't any problems with cracking anymore. It seems there are a lot of PCBs that need reflowing, did PCB factory mess thing up? Also any update on Alu bottoms which went to anodizing?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: alexfry on Fri, 08 December 2017, 02:38:56
Awesome, thanks cody

These are the sort of updates that make everyone much more comfortable.

Practical and relatable.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 08 December 2017, 05:06:25
Thanks for the update!

Do you have any information on the alu bottom ? :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Fri, 08 December 2017, 05:20:07
It seems there are a lot of PCBs that need reflowing, did PCB factory mess thing up?

Yes


Also any update on Alu bottoms which went to anodizing?

Do you have any information on the alu bottom ? :)

These updates remain the most current.

1 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2525400#msg2525400)  2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2527199#msg2527199)

The anodizer was told to prioritize the Grey tops. I doubt he had enough time left over to make progress with the bottoms.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 08 December 2017, 05:27:13
It seems there are a lot of PCBs that need reflowing, did PCB factory mess thing up?

Yes


Also any update on Alu bottoms which went to anodizing?

Do you have any information on the alu bottom ? :)

These updates remain the most current.

1 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2525400#msg2525400)  2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2527199#msg2527199)

The anodizer was told to prioritize the Grey tops. I doubt he had enough time left over to make progress with the bottoms.

That what I thought! Thanks for the update:)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: vwls on Fri, 08 December 2017, 07:43:28
Thanks for the updates, I will share pics when I've got switches soldered and caps on!

I should also say that, poly cracks aside, the materials is my EXENT look awesome. The top (black) is a beautiful piece of design and the thing weighs a ton (which I love! :thumb: )
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 08 December 2017, 08:15:05
Would you say Black case with brass plate and 8 degree bottom is shipping in January?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 08 December 2017, 11:04:59
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Hey guys,

Short update from the packing facility. Here's a pic of the reworked Grey tops:

(https://imgur.com/7xcU3KU.jpg) (https://imgur.com/4RWvRaz.jpg)


And here's another pic contrasting a Black top:

(https://imgur.com/7c6s0gv.jpg) (https://imgur.com/OGrlC1X.jpg)


Here's some pics of the brass plates as well:

(https://imgur.com/nPRZnBE.jpg) (https://imgur.com/X2FF9iH.jpg)
   (https://imgur.com/ZpSMgyJ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/PYgcEaA.jpg)

Will post pics of the 12deg feet and GMK set once I figure out which boxes they're in.

________


While I appreciate your mea culpa, I'd much rather have:
1) An acknowledgment that defective parts will be replaced
2) Compensation for unshipped parts
3) A timetable on when issues will be fixed - that is realistic in length and can be achieved

We are fiercely intent on ensuring that nobody receives defective parts (cracked poly/faulty PCBs) anymore. This means unpacking and disassembling whatever we put together in the month of November that did not get shipped yet. Whatever PCBs that need fixing will be fixed, and the feet will no longer be shipped attached to the bottoms. This is priority number one for now.

Due to the sheer load of this task (and its abortive nature), I'm not surprised that nobody gave a clear-cut response regarding defective parts yet, but the intention is to indeed have them replaced. It is still too early to give a timetable or estimate on when this will happen simply because we don't know how widespread the problem is, but an update will be given once things become clearer on our end.


...except maybe that I consider replacing the broken/defective parts as important as shipping out the rest of the boards.

To re-emphasize, the priority for now is to stop more defective kits from going out. We will talk replacements/new shipments later.


And it seems like we get these very short, jaded versions of responses.

Well...............

This is the kind of update that I wish we got more often. Thanks for taking the time to show some photos.

With the Christmas period coming up, I hope you can navigate the minefield that is holiday logistics (when I was still a student, I worked part time in retail, and holiday stock replenishments ain't easy or pretty to manage/sort/store. ****'s crazy as you get towards year's end)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 08 December 2017, 11:25:40
Codywanks (or Yuktsi or Juahenza or anyone who is listening)

I'm not sure what your plans are for those of us who received bum PCBs, but I wanted to talk negotiable options. In either case, I need my polycarb replaced.

- Option A: Refund me the price of the PCB, and approximately 15$ on top to cover the cost of replacement LEDs. They'll get here faster if I order them locally, and doesn't burden you guys with shipping them out. I will then repair my PCB myself (or try to I guess), and you ship my replacement polycarbonate out within the next week or two.

- Option B: Send me a new PCB and an aluminum switchplate, which I will pay 50% of the cost of (15$). Ship these two items out along with my replacement polycarbonate bottom, in, I dunno, something like the next month.

Let's discuss these two options. Happy to talk in private if that's what you'd prefer.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 08 December 2017, 11:57:25
Codywanks (or Yuktsi or Juahenza or anyone who is listening)

I'm not sure what your plans are for those of us who received bum PCBs, but I wanted to talk negotiable options. In either case, I need my polycarb replaced.

- Option A: Refund me the price of the PCB, and approximately 15$ on top to cover the cost of replacement LEDs. They'll get here faster if I order them locally, and doesn't burden you guys with shipping them out. I will then repair my PCB myself (or try to I guess), and you ship my replacement polycarbonate out within the next week or two.

- Option B: Send me a new PCB and an aluminum switchplate, which I will pay 50% of the cost of (15$). Ship these two items out along with my replacement polycarbonate bottom, in, I dunno, something like the next month.

Let's discuss these two options. Happy to take discuss in private if that's what you'd prefer.

Hey, I think that TARO et al needs to do more than they're currently doing to make things right - and my posts bear that out - but asking for a full refund on a PCB that needs a little rework is excessive.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 08 December 2017, 13:13:07
Codywanks (or Yuktsi or Juahenza or anyone who is listening)

I'm not sure what your plans are for those of us who received bum PCBs, but I wanted to talk negotiable options. In either case, I need my polycarb replaced.

- Option A: Refund me the price of the PCB, and approximately 15$ on top to cover the cost of replacement LEDs. They'll get here faster if I order them locally, and doesn't burden you guys with shipping them out. I will then repair my PCB myself (or try to I guess), and you ship my replacement polycarbonate out within the next week or two.

- Option B: Send me a new PCB and an aluminum switchplate, which I will pay 50% of the cost of (15$). Ship these two items out along with my replacement polycarbonate bottom, in, I dunno, something like the next month.

Let's discuss these two options. Happy to take discuss in private if that's what you'd prefer.

Hey, I think that TARO et al needs to do more than they're currently doing to make things right - and my posts bear that out - but asking for a full refund on a PCB that needs a little rework is excessive.

Why? What's their plan anyway, exactly, did they not already acquiesce to shipping out fully functional PCBs to any of us who request it? They are shipping out fully functional PCBs to everyone else, why don't we get the same choice? Financially, then, the burden is the same: send a PCB out for free or refund it. I didn't pay for a PCB I need to fix, however minimal the damage (and in my case, it's not so minimal).

For that matter, refunding the PCB is the better option for them, as they then don't have to shoulder the logistical and fiscal burden of repairing and shipping it.


I'm glad we're seeing some communication, I'm glad we're seeing some acknowledgement of problems and some commitment to fixing them, but it doesn't stop me from being pretty annoyed that I paid a not insignificant sum of money to receive something other than exactly what I was promised at the very beginning of this group buy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 08 December 2017, 18:30:23
Hey dev/ship/staff/assistants, would it be possible to get a few more shots of the black and grey side by side? I'm worried about how dark the grey appears to have turned out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 08 December 2017, 19:16:15
Couple of good updates recently.  Keep it up.  Communication does wonders.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Fri, 08 December 2017, 20:25:51
With the brass plates coming in, is there any word on when grey with brass plate will ship?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: japanitrat on Sat, 09 December 2017, 02:12:09
Hey dev/ship/staff/assistants, would it be possible to get a few more shots of the black and grey side by side? I'm worried about how dark the grey appears to have turned out.

So what if they didn't turn out as you'd expected? Would you sell your spot?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: JAB on Sat, 09 December 2017, 03:09:12
I would be interested in giving up my spot. I don't know if this is the correct place to do this, but pm me for order details if you are interested.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Saifalhaj on Sun, 10 December 2017, 15:44:54
I still have not recieved a tracking number or anything in regards to the worldwide shipping
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Sun, 10 December 2017, 15:47:04
I still have not recieved a tracking number or anything in regards to the worldwide shipping
What kit did you get, I believe they have only started shipping the basic kits with 8° feet.

Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Saifalhaj on Sun, 10 December 2017, 15:54:32
I still have not recieved a tracking number or anything in regards to the worldwide shipping
What kit did you get, I believe they have only started shipping the basic kits with 8° feet.

Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk


I ordered the premuim kit, any ETA on that?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 10 December 2017, 16:06:07
I ordered the premuim kit, any ETA on that?

Last update regarding premium kits was they'd start shipping this week so I'm assuming that's still the case considering nothing else was said.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 10 December 2017, 16:12:48
I ordered the premuim kit, any ETA on that?

Same here. I think they were going to start shipping them this week but I think they've halted all shipments until they repack the polycarbonate pieces and fix the PCBs. So it's going to be a while...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: merutz on Mon, 11 December 2017, 05:55:53
What is this?

[attach=1]

Did you guys recall the package?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Mon, 11 December 2017, 06:16:39
If anyone wants to trader their grey or silver for black shoot me a PM.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: speedemonv12 on Mon, 11 December 2017, 06:33:49
Guys, just got this board. It's amazing. The weight, the finish. Just beautiful.

Ive got a very small crack in the polycarbonate, but I'll survive.

I also have a pcb with only one led working. I'll try and fix it this weekend.

But, I'm extremely excited to get this thing together! It's An amazing board!

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Mon, 11 December 2017, 08:47:02
when will it be shipped..alu bottom..
please....I want to get it in 2017..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 11 December 2017, 09:09:07
when will it be shipped..alu bottom..
please....I want to get it in 2017..

For what we got of previous update, it is very very very unlikely that you got it in 2017 ^^’
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Mon, 11 December 2017, 15:06:17
Does anyone here know who can I ask about my Exent shipment? It's been stuck for 12 days in Malaysia and "in route to spain". I tried contacting to the gmail in the paypal invoice, but noone responds. Any ideas?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Mon, 11 December 2017, 16:25:02
Does anyone here know who can I ask about my Exent shipment? It's been stuck for 12 days in Malaysia and "in route to spain". I tried contacting to the gmail in the paypal invoice, but noone responds. Any ideas?
You’d have to speak to the courier, the GB runners can’t really do much once it’s handed to the courier. Also, tracking isn’t always reliable, it’s likely just stuck in customs. 12 days isn’t that bad for an international shipment of this weight and size, sadly I think you’ll just need to be patient, it’ll arrive eventually I’m sure! :) - that said, feel free to PM me your tracking number if you want someone to cast a second pair of eyes over it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Mon, 11 December 2017, 16:31:24
Does anyone here know who can I ask about my Exent shipment? It's been stuck for 12 days in Malaysia and "in route to spain". I tried contacting to the gmail in the paypal invoice, but noone responds. Any ideas?

I think it likely is moving, but tracking has not updated. I have received many international packages and after leaving the country of origin, it never updated again and just showed up at my house. Not sure how Spain mail works, but I imagine it could be similar.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Mon, 11 December 2017, 17:22:48
You’d have to speak to the courier, the GB runners can’t really do much once it’s handed to the courier. Also, tracking isn’t always reliable, it’s likely just stuck in customs. 12 days isn’t that bad for an international shipment of this weight and size, sadly I think you’ll just need to be patient, it’ll arrive eventually I’m sure! :) - that said, feel free to PM me your tracking number if you want someone to cast a second pair of eyes over it.

My hope is that they can ask to the courier, since it being in Malaysia makes things a bit difficult for me to reach them and ask. Also, thanks for the offer, but as you can see in the link below, there's not much to look at hahah

https://imgur.com/a/h4uzv (https://imgur.com/a/h4uzv)

I think it likely is moving, but tracking has not updated. I have received many international packages and after leaving the country of origin, it never updated again and just showed up at my house. Not sure how Spain mail works, but I imagine it could be similar.

I know that it can take quite some time to pass customs and as you say, they usually won't give any info about it when it's passed to the destination country, but in those cases you should be able to reach to your postal office and ask them with the same tracking number. If it's in their hands, they will give you tracking info, even if it's only that they have it or it's in route. This time though, it's been 2 weeks since last update, and Correos (Spain's postal service) doesn't know anything about it.

Of course I'm sure it will arrive, but at this point I'm starting to get worried because it may be stuck somewhere and I can't do anything about it. Anyway, I PMd yuktsi, juahenza and cody to ask them for some help.

Thanks for the fast response and help guys!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: catweewee on Tue, 12 December 2017, 03:10:35
You’d have to speak to the courier, the GB runners can’t really do much once it’s handed to the courier. Also, tracking isn’t always reliable, it’s likely just stuck in customs. 12 days isn’t that bad for an international shipment of this weight and size, sadly I think you’ll just need to be patient, it’ll arrive eventually I’m sure! :) - that said, feel free to PM me your tracking number if you want someone to cast a second pair of eyes over it.

My hope is that they can ask to the courier, since it being in Malaysia makes things a bit difficult for me to reach them and ask. Also, thanks for the offer, but as you can see in the link below, there's not much to look at hahah

https://imgur.com/a/h4uzv (https://imgur.com/a/h4uzv)

I think it likely is moving, but tracking has not updated. I have received many international packages and after leaving the country of origin, it never updated again and just showed up at my house. Not sure how Spain mail works, but I imagine it could be similar.

I know that it can take quite some time to pass customs and as you say, they usually won't give any info about it when it's passed to the destination country, but in those cases you should be able to reach to your postal office and ask them with the same tracking number. If it's in their hands, they will give you tracking info, even if it's only that they have it or it's in route. This time though, it's been 2 weeks since last update, and Correos (Spain's postal service) doesn't know anything about it.

Of course I'm sure it will arrive, but at this point I'm starting to get worried because it may be stuck somewhere and I can't do anything about it. Anyway, I PMd yuktsi, juahenza and cody to ask them for some help.

Thanks for the fast response and help guys!

From my knowledge, most probably has left the origin country (malaysia) and is currently going through spain customs.

Please take notice that it is also December, which can take a toll on shipping times due to the influx of holiday shipments.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Tue, 12 December 2017, 04:27:21
You’d have to speak to the courier, the GB runners can’t really do much once it’s handed to the courier. Also, tracking isn’t always reliable, it’s likely just stuck in customs. 12 days isn’t that bad for an international shipment of this weight and size, sadly I think you’ll just need to be patient, it’ll arrive eventually I’m sure! :) - that said, feel free to PM me your tracking number if you want someone to cast a second pair of eyes over it.

My hope is that they can ask to the courier, since it being in Malaysia makes things a bit difficult for me to reach them and ask. Also, thanks for the offer, but as you can see in the link below, there's not much to look at hahah

https://imgur.com/a/h4uzv (https://imgur.com/a/h4uzv)

I think it likely is moving, but tracking has not updated. I have received many international packages and after leaving the country of origin, it never updated again and just showed up at my house. Not sure how Spain mail works, but I imagine it could be similar.

I know that it can take quite some time to pass customs and as you say, they usually won't give any info about it when it's passed to the destination country, but in those cases you should be able to reach to your postal office and ask them with the same tracking number. If it's in their hands, they will give you tracking info, even if it's only that they have it or it's in route. This time though, it's been 2 weeks since last update, and Correos (Spain's postal service) doesn't know anything about it.

Of course I'm sure it will arrive, but at this point I'm starting to get worried because it may be stuck somewhere and I can't do anything about it. Anyway, I PMd yuktsi, juahenza and cody to ask them for some help.

Thanks for the fast response and help guys!

From my knowledge, most probably has left the origin country (malaysia) and is currently going through spain customs.

Please take notice that it is also December, which can take a toll on shipping times due to the influx of holiday shipments.

That's what I think as well, but it's strange because my postal service should know something if it's been handed to Spain's customs. In those cases, the shipping company should be able to say if they handed it to customs or not yet, and that's why I wanted to ask them.

It seems I'll be waiting for a while.. Oh well, I hope it's not cracked at least
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 12:03:58
Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:

Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific  plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so.  And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 12 December 2017, 12:13:34
Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:

Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific  plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so.  And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 12:19:29
Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:

Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific  plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so.  And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb

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One of my options is, at least in part, exactly that?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 12 December 2017, 12:20:59
Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:

Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific  plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so.  And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb

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One of my options is, at least in part, exactly that?
With a half price switch plate?

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 13:30:55
Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:

Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific  plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so.  And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb

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One of my options is, at least in part, exactly that?
With a half price switch plate?

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Yes? That's indeed what I wrote.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 12 December 2017, 13:37:58
Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:

Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific  plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so.  And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb

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One of my options is, at least in part, exactly that?
With a half price switch plate?

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Yes? That's indeed what I wrote.
Why do you need another plate

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 12 December 2017, 13:47:53
Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:

Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific  plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so.  And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb

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One of my options is, at least in part, exactly that?
With a half price switch plate?

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Yes? That's indeed what I wrote.
Why do you need another plate

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Or, more to the point: why do you think you're PCB issues entitle you to a discounted switch plate?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 14:00:50
Juahenza, Yuktsi, et al:

Could we get an updated estimate on when replacement polycarbonate bottoms will be shipped? Depending on your specific  plan (which I'm not clear on) for replacing parts for those of us who received defective components, I don't see any reason why replacement bottoms shouldn't be ready to ship out by the end of this week or so.  And have you had a chance to go over my offers (a few comments up)?
Why isn't one of your options to just get a new replacement pcb

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One of my options is, at least in part, exactly that?
With a half price switch plate?

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Yes? That's indeed what I wrote.
Why do you need another plate

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Or, more to the point: why do you think you're PCB issues entitle you to a discounted switch plate?

Reparations; my experience has been bad. Frankly I'm surprised you're so accepting of the situation. But I reiterate, the terms offered in my comment are fully negotiable. The only thing I'm 100% inflexible on is getting a replacement polycarbonate bottom.

I'm fine with discussing my offers communally, but it would be nice to actually hear back from the GB leadership some day.

At any rate, I'm more inclined at this point to go for a simple refund, since I finally managed to fix the PCB,  and have only the polycarbonate replaced. That's the simpler and I think most mutually beneficial option.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: nickheller on Tue, 12 December 2017, 14:06:35
Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Tue, 12 December 2017, 14:08:18
on that note i would also like a new pcb as i have not managed to get the LEDs on mine to be functional. more than willing to ship this one back.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 12 December 2017, 14:14:46
Reparations; my experience has been bad. Frankly I'm surprised you're so accepting of the situation. But I reiterate, the terms offered in my comment are fully negotiable. The only thing I'm 100% inflexible on is getting a replacement polycarbonate bottom.

I'm fine with discussing my offers communally, but it would be nice to actually hear back from the GB leadership some day.

At any rate, I'm more inclined at this point to go for a simple refund, since I finally managed to fix the PCB,  and have only the polycarbonate replaced. That's the simpler and I think most mutually beneficial option.

You say you want reparations (actual damages) but the rest of your post makes clear that you want punitive damages.

This isn't McDonald's. You don't get free fries because they screwed up your burger.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 14:16:53
Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.

Why are you so willing to accept bad treatment and defective parts? The product that was delivered to me suggests that the people leading this group buy take absolutely no pride in their work.

Also, both my PCB and polycarbonate were delivered damaged/defective, and accordingly I have grievances with both. The polycarbonate you know about, and the PCB, as it turns out, didn't just have cold solder joints (which is all I was lead to expect), but a dead LED, which I wasn't prepared for. It was delivered, literally, damaged, or with a damaged/defective component installed. Put it however you'd like. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 14:22:57
Reparations; my experience has been bad. Frankly I'm surprised you're so accepting of the situation. But I reiterate, the terms offered in my comment are fully negotiable. The only thing I'm 100% inflexible on is getting a replacement polycarbonate bottom.

I'm fine with discussing my offers communally, but it would be nice to actually hear back from the GB leadership some day.

At any rate, I'm more inclined at this point to go for a simple refund, since I finally managed to fix the PCB,  and have only the polycarbonate replaced. That's the simpler and I think most mutually beneficial option.

You say you want reparations (actual damages) but the rest of your post makes clear that you want punitive damages.

This isn't McDonald's. You don't get free fries because they screwed up your burger.

Yeah you're not wrong and you worded that well, to some degree I'm looking for punitive damages. I don't personally think I'm being unreasonable. I'm not looking for a whole keyboard replacement, or refund or whatever.

I'm kinda shocked at how...accepting you all are. Everyone can have their opinion and that's fine and I'm not even looking to change anyone's mind just that my opinion is that we are owed more than just replacement parts. We are owed at minimum replacement parts, and if Juahenza or Yuktsi or whoever (I have no goddamned clue at this point who's running the show) want only to do the minimum, then that's their decision. But I think, given the lack of choices we were afforded, and the problems we were subjected to because of it, we deserve more.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Tally810 on Tue, 12 December 2017, 14:23:21
Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.

Why are you so willing to accept bad treatment and defective parts? The product that was delivered to me suggests that the people leading this group buy take absolutely no pride in their work.

Also, both my PCB and polycarbonate were delivered damaged/defective, and accordingly I have grievances with both. The polycarbonate you know about, and the PCB, as it turns out, didn't just have cold solder joints (which is all I was lead to expect), but a dead LED, which I wasn't prepared for. It was delivered, literally, damaged, or with a damaged/defective component installed. Put it however you'd like.
Yea all of that sucks and is not right by any means.  However I still don't think you should look for anything more than getting your parts replaced which btw is still going to cost the GB runners money out of their pockets.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 14:32:58
Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.

Why are you so willing to accept bad treatment and defective parts? The product that was delivered to me suggests that the people leading this group buy take absolutely no pride in their work.

Also, both my PCB and polycarbonate were delivered damaged/defective, and accordingly I have grievances with both. The polycarbonate you know about, and the PCB, as it turns out, didn't just have cold solder joints (which is all I was lead to expect), but a dead LED, which I wasn't prepared for. It was delivered, literally, damaged, or with a damaged/defective component installed. Put it however you'd like.
Yea all of that sucks and is not right by any means.  However I still don't think you should look for anything more than getting your parts replaced which btw is still going to cost the GB runners money out of their pockets.

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And to be clear all that I'm seriously looking to make absolutely sure happens is getting the polycarbonate replaced. Beyond that, all I'm trying to do is open the floor to options for correcting wrongs. I am looking for a compromise good for me, and good for the group buy leadership.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 12 December 2017, 15:25:41
I think it's ok to ask for a refund and return everything, or ask for a replacement for the damaged parts and return the damaged parts.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 12 December 2017, 15:46:12
I think it's ok to ask for a refund and return everything, or ask for a replacement for the damaged parts and return the damaged parts.

I agree.  It looks like the group buy runners, yutski at least, seems to be amenable to making sure that all defective parts are replaced/repaired. 

I appreciate the updates over the last two weeks, guys, thank you!  The aluminum bottoms look dope, but it looks like these won't ship out until the new year.  I'd rather have a functioning keyboard on arrival then rushing and getting defective parts, so take the time you need.

Good luck!   :thumb:

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 16:04:30
I think it's ok to ask for a refund and return everything, or ask for a replacement for the damaged parts and return the damaged parts.

And I think it's ok to ask for more than that, given the way we've collectively been treated. At least those of us in the first wave of shipments, but I'd argue everyone.

Either way, what's the point of returning a damaged polycarbonate bottom? At any rate I'm sure as **** not returning everything. If they really want the cracked polycarbonate back (to do what, exactly, with?), I'll send it back in the package I get the new one in.

Also, why isn't it better for them to just replace, rather than replace with a return? If they only replace, they pay shipping one way. If they want the broken part back, then they have to pay shipping both ways. Why would they bother? That's outright throwing money away - for a broken part no less.

And if it's a trust issue, well, that goes both ways.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 12 December 2017, 16:20:11
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I don't share your perspective. I don't feel we have been treated poorly. And I don't feel we deserve more than replacements (with them requesting we return the damaged part first) or refunds (with them requesting a return first). I can see your perspective, I just don't share it. I feel like you are asking too much. But ultimately it doesn't matter what I think, and it doesn't matter what you think, all that matters is how the person making the decisions thinks your damaged items should be handled, and they have offered refunds if you don't agree with their decision as your only investment in this project has been money that is a 100% recoup of investment, which is pretty damn good.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 16:26:31
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I don't share your perspective. I don't feel we have been treated poorly. And I don't feel we deserve more than replacements (with them requesting we return the damaged part first) or refunds (with them requesting a return first). I can see your perspective, I just don't share it. I feel like you are asking too much. But ultimately it doesn't matter what I think, and it doesn't matter what you think, all that matters is how the person making the decisions thinks your damaged items should be handled, and they have offered refunds if you don't agree with their decision as your only investment in this project has been money that is a 100% recoup of investment, which is pretty damn good.

No kidding you don't share my perspective. I certainly don't share yours.

I think it would be absolutely preposterous of them to require the polycarbonate bottom be sent back before replacing it. For a mistake of their making, I would then be without the  Exent usable for another minimum four weeks, probably closer to five. I would refuse, feel exceptionally insulted by such treatment, and they would have failed woefully to make things right with me.

I'd feel just as insulted if they requested the PCB back, but I would understand the logic at least. With the polycarbonate? No.

I'm going to hope they don't take that approach. After all this, to get that response? After being called a ****ing liar trying to pull some scam? I would be beyond upset.

I'd like to see leadership step in and put this to rest. In a way that doesn't involve shipping totally unusable parts back to Malaysia and waiting another few months to get to use this keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 12 December 2017, 16:28:45
Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.

Why are you so willing to accept bad treatment and defective parts? The product that was delivered to me suggests that the people leading this group buy take absolutely no pride in their work.

Also, both my PCB and polycarbonate were delivered damaged/defective, and accordingly I have grievances with both. The polycarbonate you know about, and the PCB, as it turns out, didn't just have cold solder joints (which is all I was lead to expect), but a dead LED, which I wasn't prepared for. It was delivered, literally, damaged, or with a damaged/defective component installed. Put it however you'd like.
Yea all of that sucks and is not right by any means.  However I still don't think you should look for anything more than getting your parts replaced which btw is still going to cost the GB runners money out of their pockets.

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I'm with you on this. My expectations are (for me specifically):

1) Replaced polycarb bottom (with no need for return of the original - it's not like they can rework it)
2) Replacement RGB LEDs or funds to cover their cost (minimal, but the principle of the matter)

Generally speaking, I think the GB runners should offer the following:
1) Polycarb bottom - no hassle replacement. Maybe offer alu bottom upgrade at cost if any extras are available.
2) Offer of exchange of defective PCB for working replacement at no cost to purchaser or RGB LEDs for self-repair

Even though I think this GB was handled poorly with somewhat of a turnaround at the very end, I'm not looking to profit in order to punish TARO. The damage Juahenza has done to their reputations is punishment enough IMO.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Tue, 12 December 2017, 16:30:29
Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.

Why are you so willing to accept bad treatment and defective parts? The product that was delivered to me suggests that the people leading this group buy take absolutely no pride in their work.

Also, both my PCB and polycarbonate were delivered damaged/defective, and accordingly I have grievances with both. The polycarbonate you know about, and the PCB, as it turns out, didn't just have cold solder joints (which is all I was lead to expect), but a dead LED, which I wasn't prepared for. It was delivered, literally, damaged, or with a damaged/defective component installed. Put it however you'd like.
Yea all of that sucks and is not right by any means.  However I still don't think you should look for anything more than getting your parts replaced which btw is still going to cost the GB runners money out of their pockets.

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I'm with you on this. My expectations are (for me specifically):

1) Replaced polycarb bottom (with no need for return of the original - it's not like they can rework it)
2) Replacement RGB LEDs or funds to cover their cost (minimal, but the principle of the matter)

Generally speaking, I think the GB runners should offer the following:
1) Polycarb bottom - no hassle replacement. Maybe offer alu bottom upgrade at cost if any extras are available.
2) Offer of exchange of defective PCB for working replacement at no cost to purchaser or RGB LEDs for self-repair

Even though I think this GB was handled poorly with somewhat of a turnaround at the very end, I'm not looking to profit in order to punish TARO. The damage Juahenza has done to their reputations is punishment enough IMO.
This seems like the most reasonable solution to me. I'd be happy if they could manage this.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 16:30:41
Who do you think you bought a keyboard from? Amazon? Expecting anything more than a replacement for damaged parts is ridiculous.

Why are you so willing to accept bad treatment and defective parts? The product that was delivered to me suggests that the people leading this group buy take absolutely no pride in their work.

Also, both my PCB and polycarbonate were delivered damaged/defective, and accordingly I have grievances with both. The polycarbonate you know about, and the PCB, as it turns out, didn't just have cold solder joints (which is all I was lead to expect), but a dead LED, which I wasn't prepared for. It was delivered, literally, damaged, or with a damaged/defective component installed. Put it however you'd like.
Yea all of that sucks and is not right by any means.  However I still don't think you should look for anything more than getting your parts replaced which btw is still going to cost the GB runners money out of their pockets.

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I'm with you on this. My expectations are (for me specifically):

1) Replaced polycarb bottom (with no need for return of the original - it's not like they can rework it)
2) Replacement RGB LEDs or funds to cover their cost (minimal, but the principle of the matter)

Generally speaking, I think the GB runners should offer the following:
1) Polycarb bottom - no hassle replacement. Maybe offer alu bottom upgrade at cost if any extras are available.
2) Offer of exchange of defective PCB for working replacement at no cost to purchaser or RGB LEDs for self-repair

Even though I think this GB was handled poorly with somewhat of a turnaround at the very end, I'm not looking to profit in order to punish TARO. The damage Juahenza has done to their reputations is punishment enough IMO.

I think that's fair. I'd be very accepting of that response.

I think they should do at least one other thing, assuming they haven't already: I think they should release at least the PCB and Switchplate CAD drawings to us, if not the whole keyboard. At some point this group buy will close entirely and the Exent  won't be supported anymore. It would be nice, if nothing but for the comfort, to be able to get replacement parts, even if they have to be acquired of our own volition.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 12 December 2017, 16:40:34
I think they should do at least one other thing, assuming they haven't already: I think they should release at least the PCB and Switchplate CAD drawings to us, if not the whole keyboard. At some point this group buy will close entirely and won't be supported anymore. It would be nice, if nothing but for the comfort, to be able to get replacement parts, even if they have to be acquired of our own volition.

The switchplate design is exceedingly simple. It probably looks complicated to you if you've never been involved in the design of one before, but honestly it's a perfectly normal tray mount plate with switch holes for a 65% layout.

Would it be nice to do? Sure. But there's nothing exceedingly special about the PCB or plate design. Someone with some experience could create us a PCB and plate with some pictures and measurements in a handful of hours.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 16:42:45
I think they should do at least one other thing, assuming they haven't already: I think they should release at least the PCB and Switchplate CAD drawings to us, if not the whole keyboard. At some point this group buy will close entirely and won't be supported anymore. It would be nice, if nothing but for the comfort, to be able to get replacement parts, even if they have to be acquired of our own volition.

The switchplate design is exceedingly simple. It probably looks complicated to you if you've never been involved in the design of one before, but honestly it's a perfectly normal tray mount plate with switch holes for a 65% layout.

Would it be nice to do? Sure. But there's nothing exceedingly special about the PCB or plate design. Someone with some experience could create us a PCB and plate with some pictures and measurements in a handful of hours.

Not suggesting there is anything inherently complicated about the PCB or switchplate, but which is simpler, finding someone else to remake the designs, or them releasing them?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 12 December 2017, 18:05:17
Yeah you're not wrong and you worded that well, to some degree I'm looking for punitive damages. I don't personally think I'm being unreasonable. I'm not looking for a whole keyboard replacement, or refund or whatever.

I'm kinda shocked at how...accepting you all are. Everyone can have their opinion and that's fine and I'm not even looking to change anyone's mind just that my opinion is that we are owed more than just replacement parts. We are owed at minimum replacement parts, and if Juahenza or Yuktsi or whoever (I have no goddamned clue at this point who's running the show) want only to do the minimum, then that's their decision. But I think, given the lack of choices we were afforded, and the problems we were subjected to because of it, we deserve more.

Everyone has an expectation to receive what they paid for (i.e. working, non-defective, undamaged parts).

This expectation that you are owed even more than that, for the inconvenience of receiving defective parts is simply ludicrous. In your case, if you have to wait a bit longer to get what you paid for, so what? This is a group buy, not a store. Most are costed to break even plus a bit of compensation to the GB runners (i.e. a free unit). You cannot on the one hand expect group buy prices to have minimal profit margins, and then on the other hand, expect the group buy to have a magical pile of money from which to pay you punitive damages and give you freebies simply because you feel aggrieved.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 12 December 2017, 18:06:03
If I was going to have a new switch plate cut I'd want to support switch top opening.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 19:56:39
Yeah you're not wrong and you worded that well, to some degree I'm looking for punitive damages. I don't personally think I'm being unreasonable. I'm not looking for a whole keyboard replacement, or refund or whatever.

I'm kinda shocked at how...accepting you all are. Everyone can have their opinion and that's fine and I'm not even looking to change anyone's mind just that my opinion is that we are owed more than just replacement parts. We are owed at minimum replacement parts, and if Juahenza or Yuktsi or whoever (I have no goddamned clue at this point who's running the show) want only to do the minimum, then that's their decision. But I think, given the lack of choices we were afforded, and the problems we were subjected to because of it, we deserve more.

Everyone has an expectation to receive what they paid for (i.e. working, non-defective, undamaged parts).

This expectation that you are owed even more than that, for the inconvenience of receiving defective parts is simply ludicrous. In your case, if you have to wait a bit longer to get what you paid for, so what? This is a group buy, not a store. Most are costed to break even plus a bit of compensation to the GB runners (i.e. a free unit). You cannot on the one hand expect group buy prices to have minimal profit margins, and then on the other hand, expect the group buy to have a magical pile of money from which to pay you punitive damages and give you freebies simply because you feel aggrieved.

k. I think what was delivered to me was pretty egregious, but what can you expect right? It's just a group buy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 12 December 2017, 21:01:36
Yeah you're not wrong and you worded that well, to some degree I'm looking for punitive damages. I don't personally think I'm being unreasonable. I'm not looking for a whole keyboard replacement, or refund or whatever.

I'm kinda shocked at how...accepting you all are. Everyone can have their opinion and that's fine and I'm not even looking to change anyone's mind just that my opinion is that we are owed more than just replacement parts. We are owed at minimum replacement parts, and if Juahenza or Yuktsi or whoever (I have no goddamned clue at this point who's running the show) want only to do the minimum, then that's their decision. But I think, given the lack of choices we were afforded, and the problems we were subjected to because of it, we deserve more.

Everyone has an expectation to receive what they paid for (i.e. working, non-defective, undamaged parts).

This expectation that you are owed even more than that, for the inconvenience of receiving defective parts is simply ludicrous. In your case, if you have to wait a bit longer to get what you paid for, so what? This is a group buy, not a store. Most are costed to break even plus a bit of compensation to the GB runners (i.e. a free unit). You cannot on the one hand expect group buy prices to have minimal profit margins, and then on the other hand, expect the group buy to have a magical pile of money from which to pay you punitive damages and give you freebies simply because you feel aggrieved.

k. I think what was delivered to me was pretty egregious, but what can you expect right? It's just a group buy.

Dude. You've been reading my posts through this thread. I'm no fan of Juahenza at this point for what he's done with the buy, or TARO for at a minimum turning a blind eye and letting things devolve into a ****storm. You know that.

But I'm telling you, you're off-base on this. Even in a retail setting, you wouldn't be owed what you're asking.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 12 December 2017, 21:14:57
Yeah you're not wrong and you worded that well, to some degree I'm looking for punitive damages. I don't personally think I'm being unreasonable. I'm not looking for a whole keyboard replacement, or refund or whatever.

I'm kinda shocked at how...accepting you all are. Everyone can have their opinion and that's fine and I'm not even looking to change anyone's mind just that my opinion is that we are owed more than just replacement parts. We are owed at minimum replacement parts, and if Juahenza or Yuktsi or whoever (I have no goddamned clue at this point who's running the show) want only to do the minimum, then that's their decision. But I think, given the lack of choices we were afforded, and the problems we were subjected to because of it, we deserve more.

Everyone has an expectation to receive what they paid for (i.e. working, non-defective, undamaged parts).

This expectation that you are owed even more than that, for the inconvenience of receiving defective parts is simply ludicrous. In your case, if you have to wait a bit longer to get what you paid for, so what? This is a group buy, not a store. Most are costed to break even plus a bit of compensation to the GB runners (i.e. a free unit). You cannot on the one hand expect group buy prices to have minimal profit margins, and then on the other hand, expect the group buy to have a magical pile of money from which to pay you punitive damages and give you freebies simply because you feel aggrieved.

k. I think what was delivered to me was pretty egregious, but what can you expect right? It's just a group buy.

Dude. You've been reading my posts through this thread. I'm no fan of Juahenza at this point for what he's done with the buy, or TARO for at a minimum turning a blind eye and letting things devolve into a ****storm. You know that.

But I'm telling you, you're off-base on this. Even in a retail setting, you wouldn't be owed what you're asking.


Okay. I'm not planning on pushing this, and I'm certainly not intent on converting anyone to my way of thinking, and I want to actively avoid getting into a big argument with anyone. I am not trying to make a big deal of this.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rustywok on Tue, 12 December 2017, 21:46:27
If I was going to have a new switch plate cut I'd want to support switch top opening.

I know, right.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: shengpizi on Tue, 12 December 2017, 23:55:41
For what happens with PancakeMSTR, the big question is THERE IS NO STANDARD to judge the quality of a community GB. People use their own standard to measure whether PancakeMSTR's demand is fair or so much, while these standard is very unclear and sometimes influenced by their own taste or even their feelings to what's PancakeMSTR said.

If this happens on Amazon or Taobao, buyers can keep everything and get a full refund, cuz Amazon and Taobao's strategy tends to protect buyers other than sellers. But clearly, it won't happens here, technically sellers never made any promise, and it nearly stupid for them spend so much on customers service for reputation, and we do should not treat GB organizer so strictly in case hurt their passion, anyway MK GB is a relatively new-born industry.

But I think it's time to set a standard.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 13 December 2017, 03:37:30
For what happens with PancakeMSTR, the big question is THERE IS NO STANDARD to judge the quality of a community GB. People use their own standard to measure whether PancakeMSTR's demand is fair or so much, while these standard is very unclear and sometimes influenced by their own taste or even their feelings to what's PancakeMSTR said.

If this happens on Amazon or Taobao, buyers can keep everything and get a full refund, cuz Amazon and Taobao's strategy tends to protect buyers other than sellers. But clearly, it won't happens here, technically sellers never made any promise, and it nearly stupid for them spend so much on customers service for reputation, and we do should not treat GB organizer so strictly in case hurt their passion, anyway MK GB is a relatively new-born industry.

But I think it's time to set a standard.

You are not understanding how GB work at all...

PancakeMSTR isn't wrong to want a partial refund... he DIDN'T get what he expected, BUT, this is a GB and as such was never guaranteed to receive anything. Either way though, wanting a refund may be reasonable, expecting one in a GB is something all together different because in a GB, all funds are allocated.

You have to be able to FUND reFUNDs.

Who would you suggest PAYS for the refunds? The money you paid was used to produce keyboards. There might be some left, but they still need to do shipping and try and replace what parts they can. Do you want the people who get non-defective boards to pay the ones who didn't?

Offering a refund without a return is not a "strategy". Amazon and Tao-Bao are businesses with financing. Amazon likely has a massive pot of funding just for refunds and customer satisfaction. This is money with NO OTHER PURPOSE aside from paying out refunds. Sure they might reinvest it somewhere else if they don't need it all, but this is something that is budgeted into their cost of operations. It's rolled into their pricing structure. Every single product amazon sells has a few extra cents of markup JUST for refunds. Or maybe it comes out of the prime fees. maybe both. The point is it's not just some happy accident. They specific have funds and budget for it.

That can totally be done with GBs, but you need to understand what you are actually asking. If you want to have a fund to cover issues, then you need to expect to pay into it. Would you for instance be interested in paying in an extra $50 a person as a sort of "compensation/issue fund". This is the basic concept behind insurance. Everyone pays a bit extra and then since more often than not the issues impact a small subset of the total, you can use that fund to compensate their issues. If every board is flawed though, then all you get back is your own $50.

The next question then becomes what happens to that money if it ISN'T spent at the end of a GB? Do you refund it back after? How do you prove it wasn't spent? Do you let the GB runner keep it?


NO ONE will run a GB if they themselves are personally liable for the flaws of whatever they receive. If you expect a refund, you grossly misunderstand what a GB is. A GB IS NOT A RETAIL PURCHASE. You are as a group collectively buying something. The reason you use the term GB runner and not vendor or retailer is because the "runner" is just another member of the collective who has volunteered to coordinate the collective's purchases, usually for a tiny bit of compensation. Sure some of the people running GB are businesses, and sure some of the businesses call things GB when they are in fact retail sales, but THIS is clearly not one of those cases. If you can't deal with this, then DON'T JOIN GBs and stick to retail.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Wed, 13 December 2017, 05:31:16
For what happens with PancakeMSTR, the big question is THERE IS NO STANDARD to judge the quality of a community GB. People use their own standard to measure whether PancakeMSTR's demand is fair or so much, while these standard is very unclear and sometimes influenced by their own taste or even their feelings to what's PancakeMSTR said.

If this happens on Amazon or Taobao, buyers can keep everything and get a full refund, cuz Amazon and Taobao's strategy tends to protect buyers other than sellers. But clearly, it won't happens here, technically sellers never made any promise, and it nearly stupid for them spend so much on customers service for reputation, and we do should not treat GB organizer so strictly in case hurt their passion, anyway MK GB is a relatively new-born industry.

But I think it's time to set a standard.

You are not understanding how GB work at all...

PancakeMSTR isn't wrong to want a partial refund... he DIDN'T get what he expected, BUT, this is a GB and as such was never guaranteed to receive anything. Either way though, wanting a refund may be reasonable, expecting one in a GB is something all together different because in a GB, all funds are allocated.

You have to be able to FUND reFUNDs.

Who would you suggest PAYS for the refunds? The money you paid was used to produce keyboards. There might be some left, but they still need to do shipping and try and replace what parts they can. Do you want the people who get non-defective boards to pay the ones who didn't?

Offering a refund without a return is not a "strategy". Amazon and Tao-Bao are businesses with financing. Amazon likely has a massive pot of funding just for refunds and customer satisfaction. This is money with NO OTHER PURPOSE aside from paying out refunds. Sure they might reinvest it somewhere else if they don't need it all, but this is something that is budgeted into their cost of operations. It's rolled into their pricing structure. Every single product amazon sells has a few extra cents of markup JUST for refunds. Or maybe it comes out of the prime fees. maybe both. The point is it's not just some happy accident. They specific have funds and budget for it.

That can totally be done with GBs, but you need to understand what you are actually asking. If you want to have a fund to cover issues, then you need to expect to pay into it. Would you for instance be interested in paying in an extra $50 a person as a sort of "compensation/issue fund". This is the basic concept behind insurance. Everyone pays a bit extra and then since more often than not the issues impact a small subset of the total, you can use that fund to compensate their issues. If every board is flawed though, then all you get back is your own $50.

The next question then becomes what happens to that money if it ISN'T spent at the end of a GB? Do you refund it back after? How do you prove it wasn't spent? Do you let the GB runner keep it?


NO ONE will run a GB if they themselves are personally liable for the flaws of whatever they receive. If you expect a refund, you grossly misunderstand what a GB is. A GB IS NOT A RETAIL PURCHASE. You are as a group collectively buying something. The reason you use the term GB runner and not vendor or retailer is because the "runner" is just another member of the collective who has volunteered to coordinate the collective's purchases, usually for a tiny bit of compensation. Sure some of the people running GB are businesses, and sure some of the businesses call things GB when they are in fact retail sales, but THIS is clearly not one of those cases. If you can't deal with this, then DON'T JOIN GBs and stick to retail.

I can only agree to that.

Also I understand that **** can happen and things don’t go as planned during production or shipping. Who of you would have thought about the thermal expansion before packing?

The GB runners are members of our community. This community is based on people’s passion for mechanical keyboards.

As I for one would quite like to see new keyboard group buys to pop up, have an incentive to keep the passion for keyboards in the GB runners alive.
I have thought about running a GB before, but it’s these horror stories and people like PancakeMSTR that hold me off.

PancakeMSTR mentioned multiple times that this is his first and last group buy so I’m pretty sure he doesn’t give a **** about this community.

Community is being friendly and fair with one another and sharing a passion.

This GB is not like buying ceramic cups on amazon that might break because no one really knows what the final product will exactly be like. It is also not like pledging for something on Kickstarter because the community aspect is missing. And even there you will not always get what you pledged for.

Read the caveat emptor regarding group buys, make your (sensible) demands in a private message and please stop scaring everyone from ever running a group buy again. I like mechanical keyboards and knew that the excent could have flaws when I joined the group buy.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 13 December 2017, 06:01:41
Quick update on the shipping. All basic kits with no add-ons of the aluminum bottom, 12 deg feet and brass plate had been all shipped. Tracking will be updated to your PayPal if you still don't receive on in the next 24 hours. Feel free to send me a PM.

Next, we will be getting orders with brass plate and 12 deg feet out. Cheers.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Wed, 13 December 2017, 10:12:30
Quick update on the shipping. All basic kits with no add-ons of the aluminum bottom, 12 deg feet and brass plate had been all shipped. Tracking will be updated to your PayPal if you still don't receive on in the next 24 hours. Feel free to send me a PM.

Next, we will be getting orders with brass plate and 12 deg feet out. Cheers.

Hey yuktsi, I've PMd you about my shipping because it seems to be stuck somewhere, could you please look into it and tell me something?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 13 December 2017, 11:42:27
Maybe there should be a fee attached to every group buy as a "**** up" fund? I know I would be happy to pay into such a thing.

For that matter, I've actually been toying with the idea of opening up an IC/GB...for hiring a lawyer. I don't know how difficult it would be but what if we could get a lawyer to help us generate a general contract, one that could be applied to all group buys, international or otherwise? You sign it, the GB leaders sign it, and now there is a legal contract between the group buy runners and the participants, vs. the handshake agreement we have now.


As for how the group buy leaders should be dealing with their **** up fund, yeah, it really should be factored into both the timeline and the price they charge for their product. It works right? There are two cases: (A) Something goes wrong, but lucky for them they have some money to fix the problem or (B) Everything goes perfect and they keep the money, and deservedly so because they clearly ran a great GB if nothing failed.

Everyone would be happier if we knew that if something went wrong, we would be compensated (in one form or another) without a huge amount of hassle.

Also, if you can't deal with what a group buy is, don't join one goes both ways Amnesia. Know what you're getting into if you want to run one. Sure as **** keeps me out of the game.

One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?

Kacase:
 Could you stop ****ing denigrating me? For one thing, this isn't my first group buy. I've gotten a number of keysets through massdrop (if that counts in your opinion), and I'm attached to the Model F and GMK 9009 R2.

You're right though, I'm intent on making these my last group buys, but that's not necessarily because I don't give a **** about the keyboard community. No, I just personally  can't hack it. The waiting, the worrying, the delays, the nervousness. It's more stress than it's worth. I basically, at this point, refuse to buy a product that isn't already sitting on a shelf in a warehouse or storage room somewhere, waiting to be shipped. The only things I'll make exceptions for are keycaps that are really special in some way to me (that's why I joined GMK 9009 R2 for example).

All that though is until I see that the community changes on a fundamental level the way it runs group buys, or in general produces products. This system we have? It's a pain in the ass. We need some more structure, some better pathways. Easy to achieve a better system? Definitely not. Necessary? I think so, otherwise we are going to repeat this cycle endlessly, until everyone gets so sick of dealing with a GB they stop joining them altogether.

But seriously, cut the **** Kacase. I don't have it out for anyone.


Yuktsi
Great update, that totally ignored one of the major discussions going on right now. What are the specifics of your replacement plan? When do you intend on shipping out replacement parts? What is the response of the group buy leadership to what's been discussed regarding replacement parts/receipt of damaged products/compensation?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 13 December 2017, 11:47:19
lol, pankake guy, please calm down
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 13 December 2017, 11:48:37
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and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation.


roflmao
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 13 December 2017, 11:49:20
Oh god, please ship my board so I can leave this thread.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dgneo on Wed, 13 December 2017, 11:52:32
Sincere kudos to any GB runner who has to deal with this guy, holy cow.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 13 December 2017, 11:53:02
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and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation.


roflmao

Clearly you don't find it reasonable. But how about not deliberately taking a statement of mine out of context?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 13 December 2017, 11:55:58
K


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Wed, 13 December 2017, 11:59:15
I am not trying to make a big deal of this.

 :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:08:19
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and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation.


roflmao

Clearly you don't find it reasonable. But how about not deliberately taking a statement of mine out of context?

I don't think you understand what out of context is. He didnt take that quote out of context. You feel you're entitled to that $15-$30 in compensation. Deleting the rest of the post doesn't change the meaning of your statement.

This is out of context quoting:

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I just personally  can't hack it.

I'm [...] a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:10:46
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and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation.


roflmao

Clearly you don't find it reasonable. But how about not deliberately taking a statement of mine out of context?

I don't think you understand what out of context is. He didnt take that quote out of context. You feel you're entitled to that $15-$30 in compensation. Deleting the rest of the post doesn't change the meaning of your statement.

This is out of context quoting:

Quote
I just personally  can't hack it.

I'm [...] a pain in the ass.

Yes it is taken out of context. Omits the reasoning behind the conclusion, makes it looks like I'm saying I feel arbitrarily entitled to the money, which isn't true (although I expect most of you to interpret the complete statement that way anyway).

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:16:14
For that matter, I've actually been toying with the idea of opening up an IC/GB...for hiring a lawyer. I don't know how difficult it would be but what if we could get a lawyer to help us generate a general contract, one that could be applied to all group buys, international or otherwise? You sign it, the GB leaders sign it, and now there is a legal contract between the group buy runners and the participants, vs. the handshake agreement we have now.

I don't think there would be enough interest for something like that, but I have to admit it's an interesting idea. It would give some peace of mind to the buyers, but probably a headache for the runners. Even if your idea was successful I doubt many people who run a GB would include that feature because there's too much liability. They would possibly feature it if they were trying to profit from the GB, but it seems like most GBs are just for the sake of trying to give to the community and creating something neat.


Yuktsi
Great update, that totally ignored one of the major discussions going on right now. What are the specifics of your replacement plan?

I think Juahenza is the guy making the decisions on that, so we're at the mercy of him providing that to us. I imagine none of the team wants to say anything until the entire replacement plan is finalized. My guess is that they also aren't going to start on replacements until the rest of the orders are shipped out. That's just a guess though. Which really sucks for people with broken parts but from an efficiency standpoint I would understand. It's best to have all replacement requests reported so you can work on getting spare parts all at once.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fendent on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:17:59
One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?

You don't bill somebody for work they didn't request. I'd love to see this work order that yuktsi & co submitted to you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:19:24
One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?

You don't bill somebody for work they didn't request. I'd love to see this work order that yuktsi & co submitted to you.
idk if you were paying attention but yes, they did request us to repair our pcbs themselves... hence why they sent out the broken pcbs knowing they qere not fully functioning.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fendent on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:20:48
One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?

You don't bill somebody for work they didn't request. I'd love to see this work order that yuktsi & co submitted to you.
idk if you were paying attention but yes, they did request us to repair our pcbs themselves... hence why they sent out the broken pcbs knowing they qere not fully functioning.

Hm my fault then. I still don't believe billing someone for work without qualified arrangements is appropriate but whatever. :P
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:21:16
One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?

You don't bill somebody for work they didn't request. I'd love to see this work order that yuktsi & co submitted to you.
idk if you were paying attention but yes, they did request us to repair our pcbs themselves... hence why they sent out the broken pcbs knowing they qere not fully functioning.

Not to mention After shipment had started. I, and I think a lot of us, wasn't made aware that there were PCB issues until after I received a tracking number for my keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:24:27
Maybe there should be a fee attached to every group buy as a "**** up" fund? I know I would be happy to pay into such a thing.

There is for most, and probably was for this, but you don't plan the intensity of **** ups.

For that matter, I've actually been toying with the idea of opening up an IC/GB...for hiring a lawyer. I don't know how difficult it would be but what if we could get a lawyer to help us generate a general contract, one that could be applied to all group buys, international or otherwise? You sign it, the GB leaders sign it, and now there is a legal contract between the group buy runners and the participants, vs. the handshake agreement we have now.

This is just straight up stupid. You know that won't work. You already have an agreement with the runner when you personally sign up and expect perfection, knowing that that won't happen. You ***** about the waiting with the modern IBM boards Eclipse is doing, but you know he's going for your perfection. The group buy you want where it takes no time and it's 100% doesn't, and will never exist, so make your mind up about your expectations.

As for how the group buy leaders should be dealing with their **** up fund, yeah, it really should be factored into both the timeline and the price they charge for their product. It works right? There are two cases: (A) Something goes wrong, but lucky for them they have some money to fix the problem or (B) Everything goes perfect and they keep the money, and deservedly so because they clearly ran a great GB if nothing failed.

As noted above, it's a thing that is factored in always. You make it sound easy, but you'd struggle to do better than what they are as you have no experience. Or prove everyone wrong with your lawyer GB.

Everyone would be happier if we knew that if something went wrong, we would be compensated (in one form or another) without a huge amount of hassle.

You aren't owed compensation. Only the working product. I understand you don't have that, but expecting more? C'mon dude.

Also, if you can't deal with what a group buy is, don't join one goes both ways Amnesia. Know what you're getting into if you want to run one. Sure as **** keeps me out of the game.

I wish you knew all of this going in. You shouldn't join any group buys.

One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?

Do you know how long it'll take for them to fix it on their side? I'm pretty sure they said at least a few weeks. They made the (better) decision to ship it and allow purchasers but fix it, as it'll mean people getting boards sooner etc. I don't think they expected someone to constantly whine about compensation. It's ridiculous that you're this entitled. Absolutely unreasonable.

You're right though, I'm intent on making these my last group buys, but that's not necessarily because I don't give a **** about the keyboard community. No, I just personally can't hack it. The waiting, the worrying, the delays, the nervousness. It's more stress than it's worth. I basically, at this point, refuse to buy a product that isn't already sitting on a shelf in a warehouse or storage room somewhere, waiting to be shipped. The only things I'll make exceptions for are keycaps that are really special in some way to me (that's why I joined GMK 9009 R2 for example).

Good.

All that though is until I see that the community changes on a fundamental level the way it runs group buys, or in general produces products. This system we have? It's a pain in the ass. We need some more structure, some better pathways. Easy to achieve a better system? Definitely not. Necessary? I think so, otherwise we are going to repeat this cycle endlessly, until everyone gets so sick of dealing with a GB they stop joining them altogether.

I agree that the current standards held by the community and members running buys probably aren't high enough, but we can only have people such as senter set shining examples about what the perfect group buy is. Nobody aims to run a ****/slow/bad group buy, but with the amount that are happening, it's unrealistic to expect every single one to go without issues.


Yuktsi
Great update, that totally ignored one of the major discussions going on right now. What are the specifics of your replacement plan? When do you intend on shipping out replacement parts? What is the response of the group buy leadership to what's been discussed regarding replacement parts/receipt of damaged products/compensation?

As a group buy runner, you aim to deal with problems after shipping. If there are 4 problems in 100 orders, and the 10th person has a problem, you have to delay 90 people. That simply doesn't make sense to force others to wait. They'll have a plan, as they're all big names in the community, but give them time to assess everything completely and finish shipping before looking at the more serious fixes (changing packaging method does not fall under this).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:38:07
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and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation.


roflmao

Clearly you don't find it reasonable. But how about not deliberately taking a statement of mine out of context?

I don't think you understand what out of context is. He didnt take that quote out of context. You feel you're entitled to that $15-$30 in compensation. Deleting the rest of the post doesn't change the meaning of your statement.

This is out of context quoting:

Quote
I just personally  can't hack it.

I'm [...] a pain in the ass.

Yes it is taken out of context. Omits the reasoning behind the conclusion, makes it looks like I'm saying I feel arbitrarily entitled to the money, which isn't true (although I expect most of you to interpret the complete statement that way anyway).

Like I said, you don't understand the phrase your using.

From Wikipedia:

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Quoting out of context (sometimes referred to as contextomy or quote mining) is an informal fallacy and a type of false attribution[citation needed] in which a passage is removed from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its intended meaning.

In what was did the quote of you distort your intended meaning? Please be specific.

ETA: This is the second time, you were using reparations incorrectly as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:50:49
Maybe there should be a fee attached to every group buy as a "**** up" fund? I know I would be happy to pay into such a thing.
There is for most, and probably was for this, but you don't plan the intensity of **** ups.

Should be a line item on the bill then.

For that matter, I've actually been toying with the idea of opening up an IC/GB...for hiring a lawyer. I don't know how difficult it would be but what if we could get a lawyer to help us generate a general contract, one that could be applied to all group buys, international or otherwise? You sign it, the GB leaders sign it, and now there is a legal contract between the group buy runners and the participants, vs. the handshake agreement we have now.

This is just straight up stupid. You know that won't work. You already have an agreement with the runner when you personally sign up and expect perfection, knowing that that won't happen. You ***** about the waiting with the modern IBM boards Eclipse is doing, but you know he's going for your perfection. The group buy you want where it takes no time and it's 100% doesn't, and will never exist, so make your mind up about your expectations.


I know that won't work? Sorry, no I actually I don't just know that won't work. Also I'm not even going to get into the utterly ridiculous standard Ellipse calls "perfection."

As for how the group buy leaders should be dealing with their **** up fund, yeah, it really should be factored into both the timeline and the price they charge for their product. It works right? There are two cases: (A) Something goes wrong, but lucky for them they have some money to fix the problem or (B) Everything goes perfect and they keep the money, and deservedly so because they clearly ran a great GB if nothing failed.

As noted above, it's a thing that is factored in always. You make it sound easy, but you'd struggle to do better than what they are as you have no experience. Or prove everyone wrong with your lawyer GB.

I've never at any point implied anything but that running a group buy is ****ing hard. And one of the key components of the contract would be a big reward to the GB runners for completing a group buy effectively and timely.


Everyone would be happier if we knew that if something went wrong, we would be compensated (in one form or another) without a huge amount of hassle.

You aren't owed compensation. Only the working product. I understand you don't have that, but expecting more? C'mon dude.

"In one form or another" is inclusive of replacement parts. Broadband compensation, some way of dealing with getting something unexpected/defective, whatever it is.


Also, if you can't deal with what a group buy is, don't join one goes both ways Amnesia. Know what you're getting into if you want to run one. Sure as **** keeps me out of the game.

I wish you knew all of this going in. You shouldn't join any group buys.


Then I get responses like this, and wonder why I put any effort at all into thinking about and discussing the problems we deal with? Why, the love and respect I get from forum members is absolutely transcendental! And what thanks I get for taking a chance on and investing in group buys!


One other thing - For those of us that received bum PCBs, and why my "punitive" damages aren't quite that: they basically outsourced fixing the PCBs to us, the customer. Had they shipped off all the PCBs to some other group of people to get them in working order, they would have compensated that group in some way. Well, that's what they did, they just did it to us. Why should I not be paid for my time just the same? I'd charge 50$ an hour for that kind of work, it took me about an hour (once I figured out what needed to be fixed) to fix the PCB, and I'm asking for between 15$ and 30$ in compensation. Is that not reasonable? To charge for my time?

Do you know how long it'll take for them to fix it on their side? I'm pretty sure they said at least a few weeks. They made the (better) decision to ship it and allow purchasers but fix it, as it'll mean people getting boards sooner etc. I don't think they expected someone to constantly whine about compensation. It's ridiculous that you're this entitled. Absolutely unreasonable.


I'm gonna remind you that they didn't disclose the PCB problems before shipping the keyboard out. They decided for us that we would be fixing the PCB.

You're right though, I'm intent on making these my last group buys, but that's not necessarily because I don't give a **** about the keyboard community. No, I just personally can't hack it. The waiting, the worrying, the delays, the nervousness. It's more stress than it's worth. I basically, at this point, refuse to buy a product that isn't already sitting on a shelf in a warehouse or storage room somewhere, waiting to be shipped. The only things I'll make exceptions for are keycaps that are really special in some way to me (that's why I joined GMK 9009 R2 for example).

Good.

Again, such pleasantness from the community. Why I don't spend every waking moment here!

All that though is until I see that the community changes on a fundamental level the way it runs group buys, or in general produces products. This system we have? It's a pain in the ass. We need some more structure, some better pathways. Easy to achieve a better system? Definitely not. Necessary? I think so, otherwise we are going to repeat this cycle endlessly, until everyone gets so sick of dealing with a GB they stop joining them altogether.

I agree that the current standards held by the community and members running buys probably aren't high enough, but we can only have people such as senter set shining examples about what the perfect group buy is. Nobody aims to run a ****/slow/bad group buy, but with the amount that are happening, it's unrealistic to expect every single one to go without issues.


Sure. But if we don't make any efforts to bolster the possibility of a group by running exceptionally, then what the **** are we doing?


Yuktsi
Great update, that totally ignored one of the major discussions going on right now. What are the specifics of your replacement plan? When do you intend on shipping out replacement parts? What is the response of the group buy leadership to what's been discussed regarding replacement parts/receipt of damaged products/compensation?

As a group buy runner, you aim to deal with problems after shipping. If there are 4 problems in 100 orders, and the 10th person has a problem, you have to delay 90 people. That simply doesn't make sense to force others to wait. They'll have a plan, as they're all big names in the community, but give them time to assess everything completely and finish shipping before looking at the more serious fixes (changing packaging method does not fall under this).

Things can be done in parallel.



@Terry Mathews: Are you that goddamned dense? (A) The entire content surrounding that statement was removed. (B) The thesis of my statement wasn't that I'm owed money, it's that fixing a problem that was the responsibility of the group buy leadership was outsourced to us. Jesus christ I am NOT going to debate whether my use of "context" was correct. You are deliberately ignoring the content of the statement for an argument about semantics. ****.Off.

I expect opposition. I expect most of you to disagree with what I have to say, to hate me, to ridicule me, to disregard me, to insult me. But if no one acts as a voice of dissent, a voice of difference, then no new information flows into the community, and that's damaging.

That being said, I'm sick of dealing with you people for the moment. All that's coming to mind right now is the unbearable asymmetry of bull****: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/294584001_The_unbearable_asymmetry_of_bull****
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ygor on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:52:08
(https://i.imgur.com/E1zkBZ2.gif)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:53:08
As a group buy runner, you aim to deal with problems after shipping. If there are 4 problems in 100 orders, and the 10th person has a problem, you have to delay 90 people. That simply doesn't make sense to force others to wait. They'll have a plan, as they're all big names in the community, but give them time to assess everything completely and finish shipping before looking at the more serious fixes (changing packaging method does not fall under this).

Agreed.  As a fellow group buy runner, my first group buy caused me to incur costs that were not only unknown to me prior to running the buy, but also that were unexpected.  My group was extremely supportive and everyone got their sets.  I had to sell some of my assets (original set of bomb-kings) and some people chipped in some extra money to cover my costs.  I even sent out my extra set to someone who had their set lost in shipping, even though tracking said it was delivered.  International shipping is risky and is something I considered from the get-go...

Group buys are often run by a single person and they are supported by the group.  Everyone goes in with some risk, especially the group buy runner.  There is inherent monetary risk and for some, it's too much.  I mean, at least you didn't pay $100s and have the GB runner cut and run...  that's happened and why I ran my group buy "at cost," much like this one: so that the community can benefit.  I mean, some GBs have run over the span of YEARS.  The runners usually come through in the end.

TARO are doing their best to produce a quality product for a world-wide group.  I know it's upsetting, but Pancake, please give them a chance to correct any sort of issue you have.  We're all people and most group buy runners aren't doing it as a business, but a hobby, and usually at a financial loss. 

Keep it up TARO, as far as I can see you are dealing with this well and I'm sure all the issues will be dealt with.

Just my two cents/pesos/euros/etc.

MaNiFeX
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: afrokobe on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:53:33
lol
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:58:12
Again, such pleasantness from the community. Why I don't spend every waking moment here!

@Terry Mathews: Are you that goddamned dense? [...] ****.Off.

:rolleyes:

I'd continue talking about your points, but it's like talking to a wall, so I tap out already.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 13 December 2017, 12:58:30

I expect opposition. I expect most of you to disagree with what I have to say, to hate me, to ridicule me, to disregard me, to insult me. But if no one acts as a voice of dissent, a voice of difference, then no new information flows into the community, and that's damaging.


Hey, man.  We're all people here.  I don't think it's appropriate for people to treat you this way.  We're all due what we paid for, and you are just making a case for what you feel is right. 

I try to be supportive of the community in general.  Can we all just take a deep breath and wait this out?  I promise TARO will make the issue right.  In the end, I hope you are happy with the product and will stick with the community, despite all the crap that's slung.  Keep your head up, and let's move forward.

(http://www.rudebaguette.com/assets/Get_252520Along.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 13 December 2017, 13:16:12
Again, such pleasantness from the community. Why I don't spend every waking moment here!

@Terry Mathews: Are you that goddamned dense? [...] ****.Off.

:rolleyes:

I'd continue talking about your points, but it's like talking to a wall, so I tap out already.

Hey Terry Mathews? There's out of context for you.

Xondat, my thoughts exactly. You gave me a hand in the past, and I appreciate that, but our dialogue is no longer constructive.

Manifex, I will give the group buy runners a chance to deal with the problems I, and others, have had with what we've received. Though, I, personally, don't understand what is so difficult about packing an undamaged polycarbonate bottom into a box and shipping it off with the next wave of keyboards, but I would be foolish to not acknowledge that other, even unknown to me, issues with this project are complicating the logistics.

And you know what? If I were in a group buy, and the leader(s) said "hey we're in a pickle, can we talk about some ways you guys can help us out so we can make this thing work?" I would do that. I would help. But, see the thing is, my willingness to do that is predicated on the leadership having  developed a very solid, trustworthy relationship with me (and everyone else). That has not been the case with this buy, and is absolutely one of the reasons I am less than enthusiastic about letting my grievances go.

Anyway, I appreciate the support Manifex. I'm  going to do my best to take a step back now.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: clasicks on Wed, 13 December 2017, 13:32:21
Removed
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 13 December 2017, 13:32:56
Again, such pleasantness from the community. Why I don't spend every waking moment here!

@Terry Mathews: Are you that goddamned dense? [...] ****.Off.

:rolleyes:

I'd continue talking about your points, but it's like talking to a wall, so I tap out already.

Hey Terry Mathews? There's out of context for you.

I mean, reducing those quotes in that way didn't change their meaning in the slightest.

I mean no offense, but it's clear you don't truly understand what out of context quoting is. The Wikipedia article I pulled the definition from (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoting_out_of_context) has some really great examples.

You think I'm attacking you, and maybe at this point I am (a little) because it's fun, but originally it was meant as informative. Using language incorrectly makes you look uneducated, which I know is not true. Doubling down on it makes you look especially foolish. Please take a breath and read this stuff again.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 13 December 2017, 13:36:00
Guys just drop it, Jesus.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 13 December 2017, 13:38:38
Not pointing any fingers here, but the personal attacks need to stop now. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 13 December 2017, 14:13:50
Not just the personal attacks but I also believe trying to force an answer regarding replacements every time anyone affiliated with the project posts a much appreciated update for literally EVERYONE else is not only incredibly frustrating to again, everyone else, but also to the people trying to do right by the customers.

As I understand it Pancake fixed his PCB already (I won't get into refunds or anything else regarding that for LEDs etc, pointless) so the keyboard is fully functional and working as intended - maybe take a step back and let them address EVERYONE else in peace from now on and then worry about a replacement for your polycarb cracks (which are not visible unless you flip the board) once they have the time to tend to your issue? Is that too much to ask, or? You're not only affecting the runners now but everyone else.

It's time to stop. Let them do their job, which is not JUST to satisfy you right away.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 13 December 2017, 15:11:44
It's astonishing. It's just astonishing. You guys could make a career out of deliberately missing the point.

Vigrith - That's correct, my Exent is as of last night built and in good working order. Because there's obviously no point explaining myself at a deeper level: That doesn't mean I'm not still pissed off by the outcome of this group buy, and how it has been run.

What's a reasonable time to expect an update on the replacement polycarbonate bottoms? A week? Two weeks? I think we should have at minimum news regarding them within at most two weeks.

That's all I have left to say. **** this ****.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Wed, 13 December 2017, 16:55:56
This group buy is just what I expect from almost every group buy. It will take longer than expected, some things do go wrong. I really think some of the newer people to the community just have super high expectations for a couple people that just think this is a cool hobby. Almost no group buy runner does this as their job, if they do then they normally have a somewhat official web page like Originative or ctrl.alt (not sure if either of them run their sites as a full time jobs). I think I got my GH60 after 3 years? Great, I got it, it took awhile, but I didn't ***** and moan the entire time. People all over the country or world were working together to make it happen. The community had never put together a 60% group buy before, how could it run smooth the first time?

Also as someone who has run a group buy, you get tired of answering the same questions over and over. You get back to your life and let the stress of people impatiently whining slip away and don't check in until there is real news to check in for. Group buys are not a business, it is some nice people trying to do something cool for others, which is why when something messes up everyone participating in the buy should try and chip in if they can afford it. What if all new PCBs needed to be made? The runners didn't make the PCBs wrong, but sometimes the manufacturer screws over the buyers. Everyone participating would need to chip in more money to get what they want. Hence the "GROUP BUY" the GROUP needs to work together.

No one needs to go to bat for the silent majority. Most people are probably "silent" because they are handling their personal business via private messages instead of dragging it all out into a thread. I think a reasonable amount of requests to keep it out of the thread have been made and moderation should probably be taking place, especially considering the personal attacks and general ****ery  :-\

Maybe the group buy sticky (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88717.0) needs to be more elaborate to temper peoples expectations.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 13 December 2017, 17:13:29
Loving the thinly veiled passive aggression. Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain. **** me for trying, right.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 13 December 2017, 17:25:15
If everyone around you is saying you're acting like a duck, maybe, just maybe, you are a duck.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 13 December 2017, 18:41:00
If everyone around you is saying you're acting like a duck, maybe, just maybe, you are a duck.

Everyone around Noah was saying he was a duck too, but he built that ark anyways and then saved Jesus from Poseidon's water attack. Usually probably a duck though. A duck or an Islamic Apostle, those are your options.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Wilba on Wed, 13 December 2017, 18:56:11
If everyone around you is saying you're acting like a duck, maybe, just maybe, you are a duck.

Everyone around Noah was saying he was a duck too, but he built that ark anyways and then saved Jesus from Poseidon's water attack. Usually probably a duck though. A duck or an Islamic Apostle, those are your options.

WILBA USES OCCAM'S RAZOR. IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 14 December 2017, 00:13:33
You know what? It was Cherry picking. That's what Clasicks did (and continues to do), vs. taking what I said out of context (though I maintain that, colloquially, my usage was acceptable).

Who ****ing cares.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 14 December 2017, 00:53:10
That's all I have left to say.

...

Loving the thinly veiled passive aggression. Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain. **** me for trying, right.

You know what? It was Cherry picking. That's what Clasicks did (and continues to do), vs. taking what I said out of context (though I maintain that, colloquially, my usage was acceptable).

Who ****ing cares.

I think you are wasting your breath at this point, you have made your perspective abundantly clear, some of us half agree, most of us don't and it clearly isn't getting you anywhere with the GB runners. I think at this point you aren't helping your cause and you're just getting into fights with people or defending yourself against antagonism that is better left ignored.
I'm sure you have better things to do than type your fingers raw repeating yourself feeling like you're trying to punch through brick for all the good it's doing. I believe the creators will do something to take care of the issues your board has, it might not end up being as much as you want, and I'm sorry if that ends up being the case, but at this point do yourself a favor and let it go for now, come back to it later and see where things are at, or wait for their next official update and hopefully it won't make you even more upset.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 14 December 2017, 06:01:14
Who let the non-enthusiast in
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Thu, 14 December 2017, 09:20:38
I just want to read the updates from the GB runner..If you guys have specific question/complains, pm the GB runner pls..Don't pollute the thread...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Thu, 14 December 2017, 09:51:40
Is it possible for mods to remove Pancake from this thread for some time? Like a month or something... anything...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 14 December 2017, 11:46:00
Is it possible for mods to remove Pancake from this thread for some time? Like a month or something... anything...

Report any posts that you think are problematic and let the Mods handle it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 14 December 2017, 12:10:58
That's all I have left to say.

...

Loving the thinly veiled passive aggression. Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain. **** me for trying, right.

You know what? It was Cherry picking. That's what Clasicks did (and continues to do), vs. taking what I said out of context (though I maintain that, colloquially, my usage was acceptable).

Who ****ing cares.

I think you are wasting your breath at this point, you have made your perspective abundantly clear, some of us half agree, most of us don't and it clearly isn't getting you anywhere with the GB runners. I think at this point you aren't helping your cause and you're just getting into fights with people or defending yourself against antagonism that is better left ignored.
I'm sure you have better things to do than type your fingers raw repeating yourself feeling like you're trying to punch through brick for all the good it's doing. I believe the creators will do something to take care of the issues your board has, it might not end up being as much as you want, and I'm sorry if that ends up being the case, but at this point do yourself a favor and let it go for now, come back to it later and see where things are at, or wait for their next official update and hopefully it won't make you even more upset.

You're right. I agree completely. And that's fine if what the leaders do doesn't match exactly my requests, as long as they are met to some reasonable degree (in the interest of avoiding ambiguity, something to the effect of at minimum replacing the polycarb, which I think we all agree is reasonable).

But as much as I'm frustrated, angry, and disappointed with the group buy leadership,  I'm nothing short of appalled by the experiences and interactions  I've had with this community in this GB. Having gotten in totally non-constructive altercations in the past, I've put a lot of effort recently into voicing my opinions and positions in a as firm but non-inflammatory way as I know how. 

I want to step back, just wait for an actual update from the leadership, but honestly? It's hard when my character is being disparaged from every direction, directly and indirectly. As stupid as it is, I have a strong innate desire to defend myself. I should let the opinions of internet strangers slide off may back, but it's not easy for me.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 14 December 2017, 16:49:10
You're right. I agree completely. And that's fine if what the leaders do doesn't match exactly my requests, as long as they are met to some reasonable degree (in the interest of avoiding ambiguity, something to the effect of at minimum replacing the polycarb, which I think we all agree is reasonable).

But as much as I'm frustrated, angry, and disappointed with the group buy leadership,  I'm nothing short of appalled by the experiences and interactions  I've had with this community in this GB. Having gotten in totally non-constructive altercations in the past, I've put a lot of effort recently into voicing my opinions and positions in a as firm but non-inflammatory way as I know how. 

I want to step back, just wait for an actual update from the leadership, but honestly? It's hard when my character is being disparaged from every direction, directly and indirectly. As stupid as it is, I have a strong innate desire to defend myself. I should let the opinions of internet strangers slide off may back, but it's not easy for me.


I agree that the polycarb should absolutely be replaced. I know they haven't said anything formal about it, but I really do believe they will replace those, even if it's after handling some other things. I totally understand wanting to defend yourself, especially when your character gets called into question like it does so often on the internet. I have had to work really hard to learn to let things go and my post history shows I'm not very good at it.

despite the flak the GB leadership has been getting in this thread, mostly for not communicating as much as many of us feel they could be, and for the production/shipping issues with the boards, I really do believe they will step up and make sure everything gets addressed by the end of this.

And so far the cases are looking gorgeous, I'm still a little concerned with the update to the grey cases looking so much darker and very very similar to the black case, but am hoping that was just the lighting in that one picture...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 14 December 2017, 17:26:02
Any update on the alu bottoms? I'm not quite sure cause of the chaos of the thread but are they all finished machining and are headed to or are being anodized?

Still hoped i'd be able to get it by 2017, but it looks like it'll be mid-late january at this point.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 14 December 2017, 19:51:01
You're right. I agree completely. And that's fine if what the leaders do doesn't match exactly my requests, as long as they are met to some reasonable degree (in the interest of avoiding ambiguity, something to the effect of at minimum replacing the polycarb, which I think we all agree is reasonable).

But as much as I'm frustrated, angry, and disappointed with the group buy leadership,  I'm nothing short of appalled by the experiences and interactions  I've had with this community in this GB. Having gotten in totally non-constructive altercations in the past, I've put a lot of effort recently into voicing my opinions and positions in a as firm but non-inflammatory way as I know how. 

I want to step back, just wait for an actual update from the leadership, but honestly? It's hard when my character is being disparaged from every direction, directly and indirectly. As stupid as it is, I have a strong innate desire to defend myself. I should let the opinions of internet strangers slide off may back, but it's not easy for me.


I agree that the polycarb should absolutely be replaced. I know they haven't said anything formal about it, but I really do believe they will replace those, even if it's after handling some other things. I totally understand wanting to defend yourself, especially when your character gets called into question like it does so often on the internet. I have had to work really hard to learn to let things go and my post history shows I'm not very good at it.

despite the flak the GB leadership has been getting in this thread, mostly for not communicating as much as many of us feel they could be, and for the production/shipping issues with the boards, I really do believe they will step up and make sure everything gets addressed by the end of this.

And so far the cases are looking gorgeous, I'm still a little concerned with the update to the grey cases looking so much darker and very very similar to the black case, but am hoping that was just the lighting in that one picture...

Well it's certainly true, the aluminum case - certainly the most prominent feature of the keyboard aside from the keycaps (which they don't control the quality of) is - as I've previously said, absolutely astonishing. There's no question they got that right: https://imgur.com/a/CryyS

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Thu, 14 December 2017, 20:36:26
Just wondering how many people actually checked the update section (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880) on the first page?

(https://imgur.com/woVyqDc.jpg)

^ support for cracked bottoms was announced over a week ago.


Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Thu, 14 December 2017, 20:40:27
The polycarbonate bottom will be replaced. We have still yet to come with a quantity to reproduce, but it's going to take awhile. All orders that went out in the last 2 weeks have the feet detached, so there won't be anymore cracked bottom, same goes with the PCB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 14 December 2017, 21:31:43
Just wondering how many people actually checked the update section (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880) on the first page?

Ah, glad to see it getting updated. Since it hadn't been updated since August until now I assumed it wasn't being used anymore. I had stopped checking it tbh.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 15 December 2017, 07:00:24
So for what I read on the update section, on the 7th of December, the alu needed 1 more week for anodization. We are on the 15th now, any update? Do you think this will send before end of 2017? :)

Can't wait to received my drak gray EXENT with black alu bottom  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 15 December 2017, 07:50:32
The polycarbonate bottom will be replaced. We have still yet to come with a quantity to reproduce, but it's going to take awhile. All orders that went out in the last 2 weeks have the feet detached, so there won't be anymore cracked bottom, same goes with the PCB.
This is good news.  Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Fri, 15 December 2017, 08:00:54
I'm heartened to hear that TerryMatthews has successfully reflowed his board. We are thinking of making a Google form to poll others who would like to do the same (the SMD RGB LEDs will of course be supplied by us). Opting to do this would expedite your order and reduce the load on our team.

Is this Google Form still happening? I'm getting an aluminium bottom so I don't really  need working LEDs, plus I'd much rather have the fun of fixing them myself  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 15 December 2017, 11:46:25
The polycarbonate bottom will be replaced. We have still yet to come with a quantity to reproduce, but it's going to take awhile. All orders that went out in the last 2 weeks have the feet detached, so there won't be anymore cracked bottom, same goes with the PCB.

Great news.  You guys are doing a great job considering the issues that popped up!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 15 December 2017, 11:47:31
There's no question they got that right: https://imgur.com/a/CryyS

Sick build Master of Pancakes.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Fri, 15 December 2017, 13:00:09
Chiming in once again regarding the Ortho PCB. I'll be making a few of these on my own dime and selling the extras. If you're interested, please pm me so I know how many to make. Dunno about price yet, but just to be safe assume high for a PCB, since it'll be such a short run, and they'll be hand assembled. Here's a pic of the design in-progress :) (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171215/5b8e0a97b0f77c65ecef966929e2b0ef.jpg)

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 15 December 2017, 15:57:29
I'm heartened to hear that TerryMatthews has successfully reflowed his board. We are thinking of making a Google form to poll others who would like to do the same (the SMD RGB LEDs will of course be supplied by us). Opting to do this would expedite your order and reduce the load on our team.

Is this Google Form still happening? I'm getting an aluminium bottom so I don't really  need working LEDs, plus I'd much rather have the fun of fixing them myself  ;D

Check the update section on the first page: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Fri, 15 December 2017, 16:01:20
I'm heartened to hear that TerryMatthews has successfully reflowed his board. We are thinking of making a Google form to poll others who would like to do the same (the SMD RGB LEDs will of course be supplied by us). Opting to do this would expedite your order and reduce the load on our team.

Is this Google Form still happening? I'm getting an aluminium bottom so I don't really  need working LEDs, plus I'd much rather have the fun of fixing them myself  ;D

Check the update section on the first page: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880)

There's only a form for cracked bottoms there?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 15 December 2017, 21:27:18
I'm heartened to hear that TerryMatthews has successfully reflowed his board. We are thinking of making a Google form to poll others who would like to do the same (the SMD RGB LEDs will of course be supplied by us). Opting to do this would expedite your order and reduce the load on our team.

Is this Google Form still happening? I'm getting an aluminium bottom so I don't really  need working LEDs, plus I'd much rather have the fun of fixing them myself  ;D

Check the update section on the first page: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2347880#msg2347880)

There's only a form for cracked bottoms there?

Yeah, there needs to be a form for people who were missing parts (stabilizers) and how to handle RGB replacements.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lzlzh035 on Sat, 16 December 2017, 18:05:11
Is it possible to know our order details here pls? I'm not sure about what parts I submitted in the order since it's half year ago with so many GBs going on :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 16 December 2017, 18:28:21
Is it possible to know our order details here pls? I'm not sure about what parts I submitted in the order since it's half year ago with so many GBs going on :(

That info will be on your paypal invoice.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Sat, 16 December 2017, 18:56:41
Is it possible to know our order details here pls? I'm not sure about what parts I submitted in the order since it's half year ago with so many GBs going on :(

That info will be on your paypal invoice.

Which is why it would've been pretty cool if the invoice contained the word "Exent" or anything remotely pertaining to the buy with which to search a year's worth of email :P
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 16 December 2017, 19:03:52
Is it possible to know our order details here pls? I'm not sure about what parts I submitted in the order since it's half year ago with so many GBs going on :(

That info will be on your paypal invoice.

Which is why it would've been pretty cool if the invoice contained the word "Exent" or anything remotely pertaining to the buy with which to search a year's worth of email :P

Just go to paypal and limit it to Feb-Mar, it should be somewhere right around there.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Sat, 16 December 2017, 19:25:06
Is it possible to know our order details here pls? I'm not sure about what parts I submitted in the order since it's half year ago with so many GBs going on :(

That info will be on your paypal invoice.

Which is why it would've been pretty cool if the invoice contained the word "Exent" or anything remotely pertaining to the buy with which to search a year's worth of email :P

Just go to paypal and limit it to Feb-Mar, it should be somewhere right around there.

No details there for me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sat, 16 December 2017, 21:12:06
Is it possible to know our order details here pls? I'm not sure about what parts I submitted in the order since it's half year ago with so many GBs going on :(

Look for an invoice from "Tuhai & Co.".
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Sun, 17 December 2017, 12:05:13
"Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB)"

I remember I ordered grey, so I assume these are the ones that were planned to ship on the 11th last we knew?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 17 December 2017, 16:45:53
Based on Juahenza's last comment, it kind of sounds like the replacement polycarbonate bottoms need to be manufactured? I.e. they don't actually have any lying around to ship off?

But, aren't there supposed to be extra Exents? Waiting to be sold when the GB concludes? I've heard people say "there will be extras" since this GB started. Any reason you guys couldn't take polycarbonate from the extra kits, so that those of us who received damaged bottoms get a replacement faster, then manufacture new bottoms for the extra kits which aren't gonna start being sold for, I imagine, quite a while anyway?

I dunno if this is possible but I'd like to know if this can or cannot be done. I'd obviously like to get my replacement bottom sooner rather than later, so anything that can be done to expedite the process is appreciated.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sun, 17 December 2017, 17:08:03
Based on Juahenza's last comment, it kind of sounds like the replacement polycarbonate bottoms need to be manufactured? I.e. they don't actually have any lying around to ship off?

But, aren't there supposed to be extra Exents? Waiting to be sold when the GB concludes? I've heard people say "there will be extras" since this GB started. Any reason you guys couldn't take polycarbonate from the extra kits, so that those of us who received damaged bottoms get a replacement faster, then manufacture new bottoms for the extra kits which aren't gonna start being sold for, I imagine, quite a while anyway?

I dunno if this is possible but I'd like to know if this can or cannot be done. I'd obviously like to get my replacement bottom sooner rather than later, so anything that can be done to expedite the process is appreciated.

To my knowledge, I never saw any « official » post about extra.. people say « there will be extra ».. but it may be false
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Mon, 18 December 2017, 09:47:48
"Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB)"

I remember I ordered grey, so I assume these are the ones that were planned to ship on the 11th last we knew?
Check your PayPal. I remember I did update the tracking of yours. Thanks <3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 18 December 2017, 10:15:08
Getting super excited at getting closer to having mine
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 18 December 2017, 11:12:14
Can I please get an answer on what you all are going to do regarding the stabs you didnt include in my kit? I tried to handle this via PM, but you don't respond there.

I don't need it handled today, but I'm getting ready to order more stabs and I need to know if you're sending them or refunding me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 19 December 2017, 10:56:34
Is there any good documentation for ps2avr/bootmapper? The best I can find is this Geekhack post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0), but it only seems to cover the basics. Or is that all there is to bootmapper? The only firmware I'm (slightly) familiar with is QMK, which doesn't have a GUI but has lots of documentation and many features.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 19 December 2017, 11:19:49
Is there any good documentation for ps2avr/bootmapper? The best I can find is this Geekhack post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0), but it only seems to cover the basics. Or is that all there is to bootmapper? The only firmware I'm (slightly) familiar with is QMK, which doesn't have a GUI but has lots of documentation and many features.

That's pretty much it. Plug your keyboard in, toggle bootmapper, then press a key on the keyboard, it will light up in Bootmapper client, and use the GUI to pick the keycode you want to assign to that key. Rinse and repeat until you have finished mapping the whole keymap, then save and quit.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Tue, 19 December 2017, 11:49:14
You may have been spoilt a little by QMK. Bootmapperclient is great in terms of ease of use but it’s far less powerful than QMK.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Tue, 19 December 2017, 12:04:27
"Basic Kit (inclusive of case with poly-carbonate bottom and 8° feet, pre-assembled PCB)"

I remember I ordered grey, so I assume these are the ones that were planned to ship on the 11th last we knew?
Check your PayPal. I remember I did update the tracking of yours. Thanks <3

Hmm, my Paypal does not appear to have any tracking info for this order.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Tue, 19 December 2017, 16:19:58
You may have been spoilt a little by QMK. Bootmapperclient is great in terms of ease of use but it’s far less powerful than QMK.

What are the extra function missing in bootmapper?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Tue, 19 December 2017, 16:22:35
You may have been spoilt a little by QMK. Bootmapperclient is great in terms of ease of use but it’s far less powerful than QMK.

What are the extra function missing in bootmapper?
I maybe wrong but a lot of the special function keys you can do in QMK aren’t in bootmapper, like tap/hold differences etc.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Tue, 19 December 2017, 16:34:24
There is a port of QMK to ps2avrGB boards here (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/ps2avrGB). I haven't tried it so I'm not sure how well it works, but I hope to be able to use it on my Exent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 19 December 2017, 17:13:47
There is a port of QMK to ps2avrGB boards here (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/ps2avrGB). I haven't tried it so I'm not sure how well it works, but I hope to be able to use it on my Exent.

Whoa, nice. I bought a spare PCB, so I might take a look at that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 19 December 2017, 19:26:10
How's the status of the premium kits and alu bottoms? Have the bottoms finished anodizing yet? :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 20 December 2017, 02:33:50
How's the status of the premium kits and alu bottoms? Have the bottoms finished anodizing yet? :)

I don't think so, I imagine they will tell us when they have.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 20 December 2017, 03:32:14
Hmm weird its a week delayed from the estimates.

Well as long as they get it right i guess its fine.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 20 December 2017, 03:46:37
Has anyone with a premium kit had their tracking at all? Just wondering if they had started shipping as planned or not.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Wed, 20 December 2017, 03:51:27
Has anyone with a premium kit had their tracking at all? Just wondering if they had started shipping as planned or not.

I assume they haven’t due to the additional work resulting from the cracked bottoms and dark gray reanodization.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 20 December 2017, 03:53:40
Has anyone with a premium kit had their tracking at all? Just wondering if they had started shipping as planned or not.

I assume they haven’t due to the additional work resulting from the cracked bottoms and dark gray reanodization.


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I just realised the update on the first page was from 7th December so you’re probably right. I thought it was more recent than that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: neon_tom on Thu, 21 December 2017, 09:12:04
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 21 December 2017, 12:00:21
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.

*rollseyes* Sigh....

Could you post a picture of the blotchy anodizing? I'm curious what it looks like.

I thought I was missing stabilizers but realized I didn't order the premium kit, funny that the guys who did get the premium kit are in the same boat.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 21 December 2017, 12:08:27
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.

You're the second person in this thread with missing stabilizers. I hope this doesn't turn out to be a common thing. I ordered two sets of stabilizers; it'd suck if I got neither. The blotchy anodizing sounds pretty disappointing too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 21 December 2017, 12:12:04
Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain.



It's a Christmas miracle.

Between the way I've seen you act in this thread AND in the F62 thread, you're doing everyone a favor really.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 21 December 2017, 12:36:22
Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain.



It's a Christmas miracle.

Between the way I've seen you act in this thread AND in the F62 thread, you're doing everyone a favor really.
Man, can't you just enjoy it quietly?  No need to further poke the hornets' nest.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dgneo on Thu, 21 December 2017, 12:41:51
Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain.



It's a Christmas miracle.

Between the way I've seen you act in this thread AND in the F62 thread, you're doing everyone a favor really.
Man, can't you just enjoy it quietly?  No need to further poke the hornets' nest.

Not only can you see that I've already posted, you quoted it for posterity.

Excellent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 21 December 2017, 13:13:56
Trust me, I'm gonna be avoiding getting involved with this community in any way in the future, to the delight of all of you I'm certain.



It's a Christmas miracle.

Between the way I've seen you act in this thread AND in the F62 thread, you're doing everyone a favor really.

Why would you dig out a week-old post just to bring this **** up again? He hasn't ranted much recently, just leave it instead of trying to fan the flame. I would much rather see relevant posts about the current progress/problem resolution rather than go though this completely irrelevant stuff again.

He's got his grievances, and has made it known. Now it seems like you're just trying to stir up some drama.

Back on topic, I'd quite like to see some photos of this blotchy Pink board, just to get a reference for how severe it is.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Thu, 21 December 2017, 13:19:44
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.
Blotchy anodizing?
The cracks seem like a hidden option of this GB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 21 December 2017, 13:38:35
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.

Was yours shipped assembled? Or since they changed packaging?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 21 December 2017, 14:06:57
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.

You're the second person in this thread with missing stabilizers. I hope this doesn't turn out to be a common thing. I ordered two sets of stabilizers; it'd suck if I got neither. The blotchy anodizing sounds pretty disappointing too.

Not to fan the flame, but Juahenza, Cody, and Yuktsi have refused to answer either of my PMs on the topic. I'm only asking for confirmation that they will send the stabs or an actual cost refund. No punitive damages here.

Yuktsi has been online and posting, so it's kind of worrying TBH. The radio silence every time anything goes wrong makes my blood boil.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Thu, 21 December 2017, 14:33:05
This just keeps getting better.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: neon_tom on Thu, 21 December 2017, 16:49:02
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.

Was yours shipped assembled? Or since they changed packaging?

Assembled
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 21 December 2017, 16:51:10
Mind posting pics of the blotchy anodizing?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: neon_tom on Thu, 21 December 2017, 16:56:28
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.

*rollseyes* Sigh....

Could you post a picture of the blotchy anodizing? I'm curious what it looks like.

I thought I was missing stabilizers but realized I didn't order the premium kit, funny that the guys who did get the premium kit are in the same boat.  :rolleyes:

Here’s an album of the cracked bottom plus anodizing issues:

https://imgur.com/a/UWNVS

It’s hard to capture in pictures because it just looks like the light reflecting off the board. But in person, you can better see the inconsistencies in the color - darker and lighter patches, as well as spots that look like fingerprint marks on the board. I wiped it clean and it still looks the same.

It’s likely not bad enough to warrant a full replacement but it definitely makes the board look less impressive. I’ll likely end up having to get it re-anodized at some point. The annoying part is that the anodizing on the bottom side is flawless.


Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 21 December 2017, 17:01:37
Damn, that is noticeable. You would think that in the second to the last photo its just light reflecting off the bezel but i can see the exact same shape on the last photo.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 21 December 2017, 17:02:07
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.

*rollseyes* Sigh....

Could you post a picture of the blotchy anodizing? I'm curious what it looks like.

I thought I was missing stabilizers but realized I didn't order the premium kit, funny that the guys who did get the premium kit are in the same boat.  :rolleyes:

Here’s an album of the cracked bottom plus anodizing issues:

https://imgur.com/a/UWNVS

It’s hard to capture in pictures because it just looks like the light reflecting off the board. But in person, you can better see the inconsistencies in the color - darker and lighter patches, as well as spots that look like fingerprint marks on the board. I wiped it clean and it still looks the same.

It’s likely not bad enough to warrant a full replacement but it definitely makes the board look less impressive. I’ll likely end up having to get it re-anodized at some point. The annoying part is that the anodizing on the bottom side is flawless.

****ing cracked bottoms for real...Juahenza has his work cut out for him. I still personally think that getting them replaced should be first or, at worst, second priority right now (seeing as re-anodizing is already in progress).

Yeah anodizing looks iffy, probably more noticeable in person.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 21 December 2017, 17:27:08
It’s likely not bad enough to warrant a full replacement but it definitely makes the board look less impressive. I’ll likely end up having to get it re-anodized at some point. The annoying part is that the anodizing on the bottom side is flawless.

I think if it bugs you that it is worth requesting a replacement, I'm that the creators of this keyboard don't want you to be unhappy with it, and if you can ask them in a positive way they would be willing to find a solution for you if they are able.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Thu, 21 December 2017, 17:33:44
Welp, I'm starting to get worried about Aluminum bottoms' anodizing. But hopefully they will be fine since silver and black boards have been spectecular so far.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: afrokobe on Thu, 21 December 2017, 18:10:32
Welp, I'm starting to get worried about Aluminum bottoms' anodizing. But hopefully they will be fine since silver and black boards have been spectecular so far.
black and silver are much easier to anodize.  especially silver since its just clear, nearly impossible to **** up
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Thu, 21 December 2017, 19:41:25
Any word on when grey with brass plates will ship?  From the last update they should have gone out, has anyone received any shipping update or anything?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Thu, 21 December 2017, 20:05:56
Has anyone received a 100% issue-free board yet?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: neon_tom on Thu, 21 December 2017, 21:24:48
Finally received my pink Exent in the mail. Cracked bottom, blotchy anodizing and missing the screw-in stabilizers I ordered. However, only one PCB LED needs some minor reflowing, so I guess that's a small win. I filled out the form for the cracks and sent a PM re: everything else.

*rollseyes* Sigh....

Could you post a picture of the blotchy anodizing? I'm curious what it looks like.

I thought I was missing stabilizers but realized I didn't order the premium kit, funny that the guys who did get the premium kit are in the same boat.  :rolleyes:

Here’s an album of the cracked bottom plus anodizing issues:

https://imgur.com/a/UWNVS

It’s hard to capture in pictures because it just looks like the light reflecting off the board. But in person, you can better see the inconsistencies in the color - darker and lighter patches, as well as spots that look like fingerprint marks on the board. I wiped it clean and it still looks the same.

It’s likely not bad enough to warrant a full replacement but it definitely makes the board look less impressive. I’ll likely end up having to get it re-anodized at some point. The annoying part is that the anodizing on the bottom side is flawless.

****ing cracked bottoms for real...Juahenza has his work cut out for him. I still personally think that getting them replaced should be first or, at worst, second priority right now (seeing as re-anodizing is already in progress).

Yeah anodizing looks iffy, probably more noticeable in person.

Yeah, like I said, it’s tough to capture in a photo. :-/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 21 December 2017, 21:32:36
getting them replaced should be first or, at worst, second priority

I think it would make more sense to complete delivery first so they get total numbers on replacement parts needed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 21 December 2017, 22:54:50
getting them replaced should be first or, at worst, second priority

I think it would make more sense to complete delivery first so they get total numbers on replacement parts needed.

Sigh...I'm legitimately not trying to start **** here, but I don't think that's strictly necessary.

But actually I don't think there's a point to even discussing why I think that - because I don't think we have enough information to make an informed judgement. I literally don't know if they have any "spare" bottoms, I don't know if they have any they could ship quickly from extra kits (and then get more bottoms machined for those taken from the extra kits), or if they simply have to get every replacement bottom machined and it's gonna be at least two months before we see our replacements.

So it sorta goes around full circle, back to "Could they talk to us please?"
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 21 December 2017, 23:34:14
imho they should fulfill first. Why hold up people who won't have any problems in the buy? They also have storage problems, which they have mentioned before, so it would be beneficial for them to ship out first.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 21 December 2017, 23:59:27
I can see where Pancake Master is coming from, if they have extras already on hand it would be possible to ship those as replacements in tandem with new boards going out before they even get to a point where they need to have more manufactured. From a project management perspective I can understand wanted to only handle one step at a time, especially if you need to redouble efforts on things that have come up like QC to address a large amount of complaints for issues that keep cropping up. But Pancake Master hit the nail on the head when he said we don't know what is happening behind the scenes. And for many people that reinforces that there needs to be more communication. I've never cared about communication in situations like this, but it absolutely would reduce the echo chamber effect we are struggling with in this thread and the anger and speculation that is fueling it.

Hopefully when everything is said and done we will all be happy with the final product, replacement parts and all.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Fri, 22 December 2017, 12:31:57
Has anyone with a premium kit gotten a shipping notice?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 22 December 2017, 13:16:38
Has anyone with a premium kit gotten a shipping notice?

Not me. I was one of the unfortunate people who had PayPal issues though, so I don't know if I'll ever get a shipping notice. The shipping number on my invoice was used to ship me stickers instead, so Juahenza, Yuktsi, etc. will have to manually send me one for my order. Sounds like something that would be easy to forget.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Fri, 22 December 2017, 13:55:19
No shipping notice on premium here either.

And not to pile on again, but the lack of communication from the GB runners at this point has become a farce. yuktsi is active nearly every day, juahenza hasn't signed in in a week but that was a week after the last update. It's not difficult to at least ping the thread with a current update on what's happening. This buy is an embarrassment for a bunch of reasons.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 22 December 2017, 14:18:31
No shipping notice on premium here either.

And not to pile on again, but the lack of communication from the GB runners at this point has become a farce. yuktsi is active nearly every day, juahenza hasn't signed in in a week but that was a week after the last update. It's not difficult to at least ping the thread with a current update on what's happening. This buy is an embarrassment for a bunch of reasons.

Let's have some decency, though. Christmas time, NYE coming up, his latest update is fairly extensive so I'd say it still qualifies as current. I'd say expecting any relevant news through the next week is pretty unrealistic, we can go back to gauging each others' eyes out after that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Fri, 22 December 2017, 16:22:31
No shipping notice on premium here either.

And not to pile on again, but the lack of communication from the GB runners at this point has become a farce. yuktsi is active nearly every day, juahenza hasn't signed in in a week but that was a week after the last update. It's not difficult to at least ping the thread with a current update on what's happening. This buy is an embarrassment for a bunch of reasons.

Let's have some decency, though. Christmas time, NYE coming up, his latest update is fairly extensive so I'd say it still qualifies as current. I'd say expecting any relevant news through the next week is pretty unrealistic, we can go back to gauging each others' eyes out after that.

Sounds like the most sensible approach to me as well. I would like a statement (whenever the next updates comes) about the pink anodization inconsistency though. That pink board posted earlier should not have been sent out like that imo.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Fri, 22 December 2017, 18:54:51
At this point before the actual holidays set in all i'd actually want is for them to confirm the dates juahenza set on the updates section. Aside from that i'd be happy for them to relax for a bit during the holidays :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 22 December 2017, 19:42:09
No shipping notice on premium here either.

And not to pile on again, but the lack of communication from the GB runners at this point has become a farce. yuktsi is active nearly every day, juahenza hasn't signed in in a week but that was a week after the last update. It's not difficult to at least ping the thread with a current update on what's happening. This buy is an embarrassment for a bunch of reasons.

Let's have some decency, though. Christmas time, NYE coming up, his latest update is fairly extensive so I'd say it still qualifies as current. I'd say expecting any relevant news through the next week is pretty unrealistic, we can go back to gauging each others' eyes out after that.

Let's have some decency, though. There's nothing about this situation that prevented Juahenza, Yuktsi, or CodyWanks from replying to either of my messages about my missing stabilizers over the past two weeks. They've been active. They chose to not reply.

The shtick is getting worn out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 22 December 2017, 20:05:02
Let's have some decency, though. There's nothing about this situation that prevented Juahenza, Yuktsi, or CodyWanks from replying to either of my messages about my missing stabilizers over the past two weeks. They've been active. They chose to not reply.

The shtick is getting worn out.

I mean no disrespect but I was not responding to you, hence the quote. Am I just missing how your personal experience in private (or lack thereof) with the GB runners is relevant to what I just said?

I never said your case should be dismissed, I find it very crass that they've been remiss of your problem and I do agree it should be solved with the utmost urgency. What I said has absolutely nothing to do with that however and furthermore, we don't have to be ****s towards them just because they've been ****s towards us. That's not how I was taught, at least.

I hope they have a good time with their family and dear ones over Christmas time. That doesn't disqualify me from also wanting them to get their **** together asap.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 22 December 2017, 20:19:16
Let's have some decency, though. There's nothing about this situation that prevented Juahenza, Yuktsi, or CodyWanks from replying to either of my messages about my missing stabilizers over the past two weeks. They've been active. They chose to not reply.

The shtick is getting worn out.

I mean no disrespect but I was not responding to you, hence the quote. Am I just missing how your personal experience in private (or lack thereof) with the GB runners is relevant to what I just said?

I never said your case should be dismissed, I find it very crass that they've been remiss of your problem and I do agree it should be solved with the utmost urgency. What I said has absolutely nothing to do with that however and furthermore, we don't have to be ****s towards them just because they've been ****s towards us. That's not how I was taught, at least.

I hope they have a good time with their family and dear ones over Christmas time. That doesn't disqualify me from also wanting them to get their **** together asap.

Your point, and I'm paraphrasing here, was that Cody provided an update recently so their comms should be considered up to date and we should let things go until the new year.

My point was that there are significant issues that they have chosen to not respond to for weeks and that while they have provided an update it's a selective one and shouldn't give them a pass.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Sat, 23 December 2017, 21:53:51
Fingers crossed for premium kits shipping before 2019. You can do it GB runners!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 24 December 2017, 04:23:03
Let's have some decency, though. There's nothing about this situation that prevented Juahenza, Yuktsi, or CodyWanks from replying to either of my messages about my missing stabilizers over the past two weeks. They've been active. They chose to not reply.

The shtick is getting worn out.

I mean no disrespect but I was not responding to you, hence the quote. Am I just missing how your personal experience in private (or lack thereof) with the GB runners is relevant to what I just said?

I never said your case should be dismissed, I find it very crass that they've been remiss of your problem and I do agree it should be solved with the utmost urgency. What I said has absolutely nothing to do with that however and furthermore, we don't have to be ****s towards them just because they've been ****s towards us. That's not how I was taught, at least.

I hope they have a good time with their family and dear ones over Christmas time. That doesn't disqualify me from also wanting them to get their **** together asap.

I don’t entirely understand the need to white knight for them at this juncture.

Let’s not act like making a post on a forum every few days requires some sort of tremendous effort and time investment.

Let’s not forget, the only real updates we have didn’t come from anyone officially involved in this, AND were ~10 days ago.

This forum absolutely has a tendency to jump on people before it’s really fair or reasonable and I try and argue against it in those instances, but this is not one of those cases. They are literally just ignoring people.

they could literally send a like 1 paragraph update on where things stand and what is underway and what is waiting. They don’t have to have answers for everything, but at this point they don’t seem to have answers for anything. And the holiday argument doesn’t really hold up if you intentionally avoid providing an update up until the holiday and then say you are too busy. I mean, they could EVEN just acknowledge they are reading the forum but are too busy to respond, even that would be better than the silence.

Delays happen. I’d they came back tomorrow and said they had ordered replacement bottoms, but it will take 3 months to do it, that’s fine. There are limits to what they can do. People would be annoyed, but that’s a plan. They could also say they don’t have enough money for the parts, and lay out what options there are. Bad news might not be what people want to hear, but in reality you gotta actually deal with it and not just plug your ears and say fake news.

Their current behavior though, not posting updates and not responding to people is literally the worst possible thing they could do in their current circumstances.

It’s absolutely reasonable to expect an update by now, even if it doesn’t have a timeline. Is anything happening at all right now? Are they even still shipping orders? No one knows. Updates aren’t all that matters. People care about engagement.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 24 December 2017, 04:26:50
It’s absolutely reasonable to expect an update by now, even if it doesn’t have a timeline. Is anything happening at all right now? Are they even still shipping orders? No one knows. Updates aren’t all that matters. People care about engagement.

I don't think any update at this point will be satisfactory enough for this thread's participants.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 24 December 2017, 04:39:00
It’s absolutely reasonable to expect an update by now, even if it doesn’t have a timeline. Is anything happening at all right now? Are they even still shipping orders? No one knows. Updates aren’t all that matters. People care about engagement.

I don't think any update at this point will be satisafcotry enough for this threads community.

For comparison though. With the Campine gb being run by Alex at Panc, I have received 5 update emails THIS MONTH (18 total update emails since 8/12, ie around 1 email per week on average). Each one with photos and a few paragraphs. Most aren't good news. Delays and such, but there is always an update and it's super clear he's absolutely RUNNING his gb, and not just waiting for it to finish itself. If I respond with a question, I hear back almost immediately.

The issue is they are hardly proving update and when they do they ignore half the issues entirely so no one REALLY knows if they are doing anything about it. If they have a plan and are waiting on something... tell us. If they are waiting for the rest of the cases to go out and confirm the bottoms all make it fine... TELL US. And then let us know where in that process we are.

ANY update is better than where we are at now. I don't even care what their plan is. What have they done the last 10 days? Anything? Has anything changed?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 24 December 2017, 04:57:48
Anyone got their tracking working?
I have a basic kit with grey top case, got the tracking 10 days ago and it's still not moving!
yuktsi said he was gonna looking into my tracking, and then went silence.
TBH, after months of delay and lack of response, I just wanna get the fk out of this mess!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 24 December 2017, 05:10:35
ANY update is better than where we are at now. I don't even care what their plan is. What have they done the last 10 days? Anything? Has anything changed?

I think people are saying 'any update will do' but if we got an update like "hey guys, we are still working on shipping, hang tight" everyone will complain that their specific issue wasn't addressed, or that there isn't enough info etc. From their perspective, I can understand the radio silence.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Sun, 24 December 2017, 05:19:04
I just wanna get the fk out of this mess!
I hear this. As for your tracking, have you tried 17track? If that finds nothing it’s probably either an incorrect reference or it hasn’t been picked up/scanned yet by the courier.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Sun, 24 December 2017, 06:37:04


ANY update is better than where we are at now. I don't even care what their plan is. What have they done the last 10 days? Anything? Has anything changed?

I think people are saying 'any update will do' but if we got an update like "hey guys, we are still working on shipping, hang tight" everyone will complain that their specific issue wasn't addressed, or that there isn't enough info etc. From their perspective, I can understand the radio silence.

Have you ever checked any other, well done GBs' updates? No one should expect a 1000 words essay like update, but regular updates like "we are still working" and no radio silences are a must for peaceful GBs.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 24 December 2017, 07:36:15
I don’t entirely understand the need to white knight for them at this juncture.

Let’s not act like making a post on a forum every few days requires some sort of tremendous effort and time investment.

I guess you've not read my other posts on here, then.

That's literally the same thing I've been saying for months and that I have repeated over and over. No one's white knighting any body, the only point I've been trying to make with my last 2-3 posts is that expecting an update the day before Christmas or over the holidays is hardly feasible; I don't think it's very considerate to expect one either, if there's ever a time I'll give them a pass for actually, truly being "too busy" or not feeling like it really is worth popping round to say "there are no updates, we're home with our families, expect activities to resume after the holidays", that'd be now. Maybe that's just me, I'm a festive guy, what can I say.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kingnestea on Sun, 24 December 2017, 09:45:41
I just wanna get the fk out of this mess!
I hear this. As for your tracking, have you tried 17track? If that finds nothing it’s probably either an incorrect reference or it hasn’t been picked up/scanned yet by the courier.

I have tried everything, it is sf-express, on there website it says shipment picked up.
Since Dec. 15th tho...nothing has changed..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Sun, 24 December 2017, 10:45:27
ANY update is better than where we are at now. I don't even care what their plan is. What have they done the last 10 days? Anything? Has anything changed?

I think people are saying 'any update will do' but if we got an update like "hey guys, we are still working on shipping, hang tight" everyone will complain that their specific issue wasn't addressed, or that there isn't enough info etc. From their perspective, I can understand the radio silence.

Yeah STFU guys! It's not the GB runners' fault that the GB was run so terribly!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Sun, 24 December 2017, 11:21:23
I just wanna get the fk out of this mess!
I hear this. As for your tracking, have you tried 17track? If that finds nothing it’s probably either an incorrect reference or it hasn’t been picked up/scanned yet by the courier.

I have tried everything, it is sf-express, on there website it says shipment picked up.
Since Dec. 15th tho...nothing has changed..
I suspect it’s just Christmas causing huge back logs unfortunately. Bad time of year for all this!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 24 December 2017, 12:41:09
ANY update is better than where we are at now. I don't even care what their plan is. What have they done the last 10 days? Anything? Has anything changed?

I think people are saying 'any update will do' but if we got an update like "hey guys, we are still working on shipping, hang tight" everyone will complain that their specific issue wasn't addressed, or that there isn't enough info etc. From their perspective, I can understand the radio silence.

But it's bull****.

I'm sick of people like you making excuses for people like this group of joker's. It was a week after I first PMed them about the missing stabs before I even mentioned it on here - as I assumed it was an oversight on their part.

For three weeks now, they have refused to even acknowledge that I paid for stabs and that they owe them to me. I'm not asking for crazy compensation, I'm only asking for either the actual amount paid refunded or the stabs shipped with my replacement bottom. Total radio silence.

I will grant you it's only $7-8 between the stabs and the RGB LEDs. But doesn't that make it worse? They're going to **** me around over $7???

I understand some people go off the deep end, I think if you look a few pages back youll see I was one who was criticizing someone else in this thread who did. But not everything needs to be forgiven and overlooked.

I understand you may not agree, but I feel this is a grievous mishandling of my situation, considering how minor it is in the grand scheme of things and what I've told them I will accept as resolution.

I mean, ****. "Yes, we will ship stabs with your replacement bottom". 9 words to fix this. How petty.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 24 December 2017, 15:09:27
But it's bull****.

If they posted and the only thing they said was "We are still shipping stuff, thank you for your patience." would that be satisfactory to you?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: afrokobe on Sun, 24 December 2017, 15:27:11
But it's bull****.

If they posted and the only thing they said was "We are still shipping stuff, thank you for your patience." would that be satisfactory to you?
he's asking they address him after 3 weeks of no response.  Either "We'll refund" or "We'll ship replacements".  All he wants is just a response from the team on a small matter
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 24 December 2017, 15:46:46
But it's bull****.

If they posted and the only thing they said was "We are still shipping stuff, thank you for your patience." would that be satisfactory to you?

Better than where we are now. For all we know they haven’t shipped a thing since 10 days ago.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 24 December 2017, 16:21:23
he's asking they address him after 3 weeks of no response.  Either "We'll refund" or "We'll ship replacements".  All he wants is just a response from the team on a small matter

My point is that people are saying 'anything would be nice' but that's obviously not the case, when there are several users that want specific information, where a generic 'we're still shipping stuff' response isn't going to cut it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 24 December 2017, 16:37:59
But it's bull****.

If they posted and the only thing they said was "We are still shipping stuff, thank you for your patience." would that be satisfactory to you?

No. I want them to acknowledge my specific issue. It's not unreasonable.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 24 December 2017, 16:41:50
But it's bull****.

If they posted and the only thing they said was "We are still shipping stuff, thank you for your patience." would that be satisfactory to you?

No. I want them to acknowledge my specific issue. It's not unreasonable.

It absolutely isn't. It should have been done a long time ago. But specific issues like yours are why a broad generic responses aren't going to cut it at this point
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TheWuggening on Sun, 24 December 2017, 20:53:04
I got mine yesterday. I'm missing the screws that hold the foot onto the keyboard and the stabs that I ordered.. Anyone else have this problem? Am I missing something here?
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 24 December 2017, 21:30:15
I got mine yesterday. I'm missing the screws that hold the foot onto the keyboard and the stabs that I ordered.. Anyone else have this problem? Am I missing something here?

Lots of people are missing their stabilizers and a few other people have been missing screws too IIRC. To be fair I think the GB runners have addressed the screws; there's room for like five but there's only three screws by design (or something similar). Sadly you're one of many people who's order hasn't been right.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TheWuggening on Mon, 25 December 2017, 14:17:16
What’s been the best way to reach out to the GB runners about my stuff?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 25 December 2017, 14:24:03
What’s been the best way to reach out to the GB runners about my stuff?

If you figure that out, LMK. I've been PMing Juahenza, Yutski, and CodyWanks and radio silence.

Im about ready to start reminding TARO that their names are all over this **** show again. The level of disrespect these joker's are showing us considering they're logging on is beyond belief.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Mon, 25 December 2017, 16:10:47
Based on Juahenza's last comment, it kind of sounds like the replacement polycarbonate bottoms need to be manufactured? I.e. they don't actually have any lying around to ship off?

But, aren't there supposed to be extra Exents? Waiting to be sold when the GB concludes?

The replacement polycarb bottoms do indeed have to be remade.

Extras get manufactured together with replacements (mainly to fulfill the MOQ). This is a routine thing with most GBs.


There's nothing about this situation that prevented Juahenza, Yuktsi, or CodyWanks from replying to either of my messages about my missing stabilizers over the past two weeks. They've been active. They chose to not reply.

The shtick is getting worn out.

The level of disrespect these joker's are showing us considering they're logging on is beyond belief.

Not sure what gave you that idea, but I just got back from a cruise. I haven’t been “active” by any stretch of the imagination. My last login was on the 15th of December; I even got one of my mates to screenshot my profile page in case you wanted proof.

It’s one thing to make valid accusations, I can deal with that, but all this talk about me being “active” but “choosing not to reply” is absolutely baseless and will not be tolerated.


Has anyone with a premium kit had their tracking at all? Just wondering if they had started shipping as planned or not.

Has anyone with a premium kit gotten a shipping notice?

As stated above, I’ve only just got back so I’m not sure what the latest status is. I’ll need to confer with the runners.


Here’s an album of the cracked bottom plus anodizing issues:

https://imgur.com/a/UWNVS

Quoting to remind myself to raise this issue the next time we meet. Ditto for @TheWuggening.


Anyone got their tracking working?
I have a basic kit with grey top case, got the tracking 10 days ago and it's still not moving!
yuktsi said he was gonna looking into my tracking, and then went silence.
TBH, after months of delay and lack of response, I just wanna get the fk out of this mess!

I have tried everything, it is sf-express, on there website it says shipment picked up.
Since Dec. 15th tho...nothing has changed..

I suspect it’s just Christmas causing huge back logs unfortunately. Bad time of year for all this!

What eddible said. I have inbound packages from USA, Austria and China and the tracking info for all three shipments have been static for a longer period than yours. I can share my tracking numbers with you through PM if it’d make you feel better.

_______

I’ll try to post a meaningful update as soon as I get brought up to speed, but this will likely only happen next week as the GB leaders are currently off on holiday with their families.

Until then, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 25 December 2017, 16:47:03
PM from Cody:

Quote
Usually I’d be more than happy to help out with this, but what you’ve said in the thread about me being “active” but “choosing not to reply” is nothing short of slander.

You’re welcome to PM me again after you’ve made a public apology. As it stands, I’m only a volunteer on the project and I don’t owe you any answers.

Kiss my ass. I'll eat the damn $6 before I'll apologize to you when Yutski has been posting in this damn thread.

I think you need to speak with the group you're volunteering for before you commit to extorting an apology out of me over a set of stabs I paid for and one of you forgot to put in the box. TARO probably won't want a summary of the situation and your PM posted every time they run an IC or a GB.

Edit to add: There's nothing that I love more in life than making people choke on their own words.

I haven’t been “active” by any stretch of the imagination. My last login was on the 15th of December; I even got one of my mates to screenshot my profile page in case you wanted proof.

It’s one thing to make valid accusations, I can deal with that, but all this talk about me being “active” but “choosing not to reply” is absolutely baseless and will not be tolerated.

Hmmm. I wonder how you knew to preserve the evidence if you weren't active (my emphasis added above)... Care to explain?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 25 December 2017, 16:50:42
The level of disrespect these joker's are showing us considering they're logging on is beyond belief.

Not sure what gave you that idea, but I just got back from a cruise. I haven’t been “active” by any stretch of the imagination. My last login was on the 15th of December; I even got one of my mates to screenshot my profile page in case you wanted proof.

It’s one thing to make valid accusations, I can deal with that, but all this talk about me being “active” but “choosing not to reply” is absolutely baseless and will not be tolerated.

Sorry, but this response doesn’t really fly. First, he said “they” not “codywanks” so I’d assume he didn’t just email you. To say his claim is baseless is totally bull****.

Second, and more important, as far as I’m aware you aren’t even officially part of this GB. If that has changed and you are now the contact person going forward, that’s totally fine, but you need to set the expectation that you and only you will be responding to people and addressing the issue. As it stands now, it seems that people are reaching out to those whom they believe to running their GB and getting no response.

Finally, if you ARE the contact person, and you are going on vacation, you should either designate someone else to do it OR simply let people know. This isn’t hard. Had you said a week ago “I will be handling all communication for this GB going forward. I am going on a cruise for the next week, but if you have any questions I’ll try and respond when I get back. I will be unreachable from x-y, so don’t expect a response before then. I should also have another update on around 12/28.”

No one woulda said ****. Ok, maybe PancakeMSTR would be mad, but it’s the holidays and people would get it. But that is NOT what you did.

If you don’t want people attacking you for not responding when you aren’t available, THEN MAKE SURE THEY KNOW YOU ARENT AVAILABLE.

I for one am not at all bothered by the state of the GB, issues happen, and I do think you are trying. I am however extremely disappointed in the general communication of the GB. So much so I’m hesitant to deal other any of the people involved again. That you don’t understand the difference is frustrating. It doesn’t matter how well you are running the other side of the GB if the perception is you don’t give a **** and can’t be bothered to inform people of the status of their purchases.


Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 25 December 2017, 16:54:44
Sorry, but this response doesn’t really fly. First, he said “they” not “codywanks” so I’d assume he didn’t just email you. To say his claim is baseless is totally bull****.

You are 100% correct. I PMed all three of them consideing how sporadic their activity was.

I don't think GH saves sent items by default, but I'm sure a moderator could verify if it comes down to that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Mon, 25 December 2017, 18:15:54
Sorry, but this response doesn’t really fly. First, he said “they” not “codywanks” so I’d assume he didn’t just email you. To say his claim is baseless is totally bull****.

As far as I’m concerned, he worded “they” to mean and include me. And the simple facts of the matter are I have NOT been active, I have NOT logged on, and I DID NOT choose to dodge his PM.


Second, and more important, as far as I’m aware you aren’t even officially part of this GB... (snip)

I believe in helping out and picking up the slack whenever/wherever I can, and not asking for/expecting anything in return. That’s what friendship & community both mean to me. However, if the consensus here is that my updates are not helping, not useful, or not appreciated, I’d be more than willing to take a step back and let this thread take its course.


Hmmm. I wonder how you knew to preserve the evidence if you weren't active (my emphasis added above)... Care to explain?

That’s simple. Someone from my keyboard chat group informed me that you were falsely accusing me of being online but not responding. So I told them to grab a screenshot of my last active status (https://i.imgur.com/CQ8Jlmc.jpg) and forward it to me to for proof.


I'll eat the damn $6 before I'll apologize to you

Great, eat it in quarters, let me know what it feels like coming out the other end.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 25 December 2017, 18:20:18
Hey, for a volunteer or someone who helps out the gb we should chill out for a little bit. I still think he's doing a better job than the gb runner considering he's actually giving updates instead of being off for weeks at a time. Jua didn't even bother updating his shipping estimates.

We all just wanna get the fk outta here, the gb runner should just get this over with and fix the communication issues. This includes actually addressing concerns with people missing things.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 25 December 2017, 18:28:59
Cody, my most sincere thanks for doubling down on stupid.

@All: If I don't hear back from an official representative of this GB by 0:00 GMT 1/1/18, I will assume Cody is speaking on behalf of you all and these messages are Official Statements on behalf of the GB. I will then begin posting a summary of my issue and Cody's responses on the matter in all the places that the members of TARO do business.

My expectations:
1) An apology regarding Cody's responses to what are legitimate complaints.
2) Confirmation of how my issues will be handled

Thank you for your consideration. I hope we can resolve this amicably. I've spent thousands of dollars at Oco, I'd hate for Cody's behavior to put an end to that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 25 December 2017, 18:35:53
Oh, here comes the ultimatum. Just in time when we thought it could not get any worse.

PS: Cody, thank you for the remainder of the updates that affect everyone that isn't Terry. Hopefully things keep moving along nicely despite this whole thing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 25 December 2017, 18:36:29
Honestly I'll take radio silence over Cody doing the updates at this point
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 25 December 2017, 18:40:34
Oh, here comes the ultimatum. Just in time when we thought it could not get any worse.

I'm not happy about it frankly either, but I don't know what else to do at this point. Setting Cody aside, Yutski has been online and posting without acknowledging my issues which were delivered via PM.

Am I nuts? I don't think I'm asking for a lot here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 25 December 2017, 18:40:43
Sorry, but this response doesn’t really fly. First, he said “they” not “codywanks” so I’d assume he didn’t just email you. To say his claim is baseless is totally bull****.

As far as I’m concerned, he worded “they” to mean and include me. And the simple facts of the matter are I have NOT been active, I have NOT logged on, and I DID NOT choose to dodge his PM.

So.... what you are saying is, even if he wasn't talking about you, you want him to be, and so therefore you are offended because he didn't know you were inactive? Really? YOU DID choose to dodge his PM, because you stopped responding and CHOSE to not tell anyone why. HE DID NOT say that YOU were active and not responding, he said THEY which I personally would interpret as the people RUNNING the group buy which rolls into this point:

Second, and more important, as far as I’m aware you aren’t even officially part of this GB... (snip)

I believe in helping out and picking up the slack whenever/wherever I can, and not asking for/expecting anything in return. That’s what friendship & community both mean to me. However, if the consensus here is that my updates are not helping, not useful, or not appreciated, I’d be more than willing to take a step back and let this thread take its course.

First, again, stop being a child, I NEVER SAID the updates were not helpful. I said, if you are going to be in that role, make it official, and then MANAGE EXPECTATIONS. I was trying to help you. ALL you have to do is let people know when you won't be available, and let them know when you think you might have an update, and then, before we get there, no one will complain, and if they do, the community itself will manage it. All it would take is a few 1-2 line messages every now and again. People clearly have anxiety about this GB, but they shouldn't, not given the group that is running it, there is zero reason to believe that this GB will fail or anyone will not get what they paid for except 1 HUGE thing. COMMUNICATION. The way this GB is choosing to communicate is inducing it's own problems. All of this could have been avoided by simply being more up front and open with people. You guys are more than shooting yourself in the foot, it's like you thought "why stop with a pistol, I need an RPG to really handle that damn foot".

But regardless, you cannot lump yourself into "they" and then make it clear you are't part of "they". Either you are involved, and the expectation is as such, or you aren't.

Hmmm. I wonder how you knew to preserve the evidence if you weren't active (my emphasis added above)... Care to explain?

That’s simple. Someone from my keyboard chat group informed me that you were falsely accusing me of being online but not responding. So I told them to grab a screenshot of my last active status (https://i.imgur.com/CQ8Jlmc.jpg) and forward it to me to for proof.

Sorry, but screenshots don't mean ****:
(https://i.imgur.com/JOPn5Iw.png)

No one is doubting you that you weren't on a cruise, but this is just being childish. Also, let's not pretend like you can't check the forum or find out about PMs without updating the last login status. Again, not saying you did, but the point is more that it doesn't really matter. No one is calling you a liar but you. I totally believe you didn't check the forum while you were gone, and I'm fine with that. I'm telling you you are being unreasonable to expect people to be happy about the lack of updates in the 10 days preceding christmas without knowing why. He has a legit reason to be upset, you don't.

I'll eat the damn $6 before I'll apologize to you

Great, eat it in quarters, let me know what it feels like coming out the other end.
Grow up. You WANTED to be insulted, and then you acted like a child when you tried to FORCE him to apologize or else you will STEAL his money. Remember, this isn't some favor, he PAID for stabs, and didn't get them. IT IS NOT OK to threaten to not give something they paid for because you felt insulted. Especially when YOU are the one inferring that insult.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 25 December 2017, 18:43:15
it's christmas can we please not flame this thread today
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Evilocity on Mon, 25 December 2017, 18:47:35
Lmao this thread gives me great laughs.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 25 December 2017, 19:27:51

Finally, if you ARE the contact person, and you are going on vacation, you should either designate someone else to do it OR simply let people know. This isn’t hard. Had you said a week ago “I will be handling all communication for this GB going forward. I am going on a cruise for the next week, but if you have any questions I’ll try and respond when I get back. I will be unreachable from x-y, so don’t expect a response before then. I should also have another update on around 12/28.”

No one woulda said ****. Ok, maybe PancakeMSTR would be mad, but it’s the holidays and people would get it. But that is NOT what you did.



Not true. I would have accepted without question a statement saying the leadership would be unavailable, as long as the dates were reasonable.

Based on Juahenza's last comment, it kind of sounds like the replacement polycarbonate bottoms need to be manufactured? I.e. they don't actually have any lying around to ship off?

But, aren't there supposed to be extra Exents? Waiting to be sold when the GB concludes?

The replacement polycarb bottoms do indeed have to be remade.

Extras get manufactured together with replacements (mainly to fulfill the MOQ). This is a routine thing with most GBs.



I'm confused, so you do have extras? What do you mean extras get manufactured together with replacements? Do you have replacements, extras, both, or neither?



Rhetorically, in response to what's been developing here the past few days: I know for me personally, it was one of codywank's comments that sort of set me off the deep end with leadership. To be explicit, if we were voting on whether or not to keep codywanks around doing communication, my vote would be a no (he is cavalier and disrespectful altogether too often), even given that he is one of the few who somehow manages to give regular and detailed updates. Sort of illustrative of the state of this group buy in a nutshell (I say typing on my Exent...). That's my review anyway,  but given I'm still waiting on my replacement bottom it's not over for me yet either.

But yeah I think you all know which side I'm on. Not only Yuktsi and Juahenza but (even despite the fierce opposition this opinion garners) Taro, Rama, and Oco were all long ago scratched off my list of people/groups I'm willing to give money to. This is insanity, and the way we are being treated totally unacceptable.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 25 December 2017, 19:29:46
Honestly I'll take radio silence over Cody doing the updates at this point

Although Cody hasn't always been professional, I for one am grateful for his updates since Yuktsi and Juahenza are ignoring us. If he wasn't around we would be in the dark way more than we have been.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kingnestea on Mon, 25 December 2017, 19:35:53
I have just called sf-express Malaysia, the shipment is NOT yet picked up according to their representative
While it shows "shipment picked up" on their website since Dec. 15th
My best guess is sf-express Malaysia shows that once the shipper creates a lable
However, that nice lady on the phone promised to report this to her supervisor and get back to me.
In the meanwhile, still no words from yuktsi or any other GB runner.
Well done!
 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 25 December 2017, 20:02:41
it's christmas can we please not flame this thread today

Kind of escalated past flame now. Sad sight to see but sadder yet is the fact it actually got to this (not saying either side is to blame more than the other for where it has gotten).

Would be nice to be able to actually get provided substantial updates after people are back from New Year's regarding shipping for those of us who have not gotten their board(s) yet but at the same time it's not like what is currently polluting the thread is exactly uncalled for. ****ty situation, you know it's bad when people are going to these extremes on Christmas of all days, lawdy lawd.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 26 December 2017, 01:53:03
 :)

I’m going into work tomorrow, so I’m going to do a little light reading before I retire after a busy Christmas.  Ooooh, I wonder what’s up with the EXENT GB, maybe there’s an update on aluminum bottoms, maybe not.

 ;D

MaNiFeX reads two pages of comments.

 :confused:

 :eek:

Maybe I’ll check back later.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Tue, 26 December 2017, 13:12:44
:)

I’m going into work tomorrow, so I’m going to do a little light reading before I retire after a busy Christmas.  Ooooh, I wonder what’s up with the EXENT GB, maybe there’s an update on aluminum bottoms, maybe not.

 ;D

MaNiFeX reads two pages of comments.

 :confused:

 :eek:

Maybe I’ll check back later.

 :rolleyes:

I have felt that way every time I check this thread...just ready for my Exent to come so I can separate myself from this thread...

 :blank:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Tue, 26 December 2017, 15:55:55
Mine just arrived to my surprise :) By the looks of it no cracks or anything.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 26 December 2017, 15:58:07
Mine just arrived to my surprise :) By the looks of it no cracks or anything.

Sweet!  Post pics!  Let's keep the positive momentum going!  Would love to hear from others that have had successful build.  I know you're out there!

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Tue, 26 December 2017, 16:01:33
Mine just arrived to my surprise :) By the looks of it no cracks or anything.

Was yours shipped assembled or unassembled?
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: neon_tom on Tue, 26 December 2017, 16:16:52
Mine just arrived to my surprise By the looks of it no cracks or anything.

If it was shipped assembled, make sure to remove the feet and check for cracks underneath.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 26 December 2017, 19:14:18
So uh, shipping updates?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 26 December 2017, 19:42:42
So uh, shipping updates?

I’ll try to post a meaningful update as soon as I get brought up to speed, but this will likely only happen next week as the GB leaders are currently off on holiday with their families.

Until then, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TheWuggening on Wed, 27 December 2017, 13:46:25

Here’s an album of the cracked bottom plus anodizing issues:

https://imgur.com/a/UWNVS

Quoting to remind myself to raise this issue the next time we meet. Ditto for @TheWuggening.

Thank you kindly brochacho; much appreciated.

Just as a reminder, to save you time when you come back around, I'm missing the stabs and screws to attach the foot.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Wed, 27 December 2017, 19:13:54
Mine just arrived to my surprise :) By the looks of it no cracks or anything.

Was yours shipped assembled or unassembled?

Mine just arrived to my surprise By the looks of it no cracks or anything.

If it was shipped assembled, make sure to remove the feet and check for cracks underneath.

Mine was shipped assembled, however I have just removed the acrylic bottom and confirmed that there are no cracks on either side.

That said, my foot bar did not come attached, and I did not receive any screws with which to attach it. I also do not have any spare rubber feet if I were to not use the bar. I'm not sure if this is normal, I got the basic kit and it does say it's just inclusive of housing, plate and PCB.

Can anyone tell me what kind of screws I need to attach that, and also should I be looking at plate mounted or pcb mounted stabilizers for this?

Thanks :)

(https://imgur.com/eqrD13z.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/yMeukKj.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 27 December 2017, 19:16:18
That said, my foot bar did not come attached, and I did not receive any screws with which to attach it. I also do not have any spare rubber feet if I were to not use the bar. I'm not sure if this is normal, I got the basic kit and it does say it's just inclusive of housing, plate and PCB.

Can anyone tell me what kind of screws I need to attach that, and also should I be looking at plate mounted or pcb mounted stabilizers for this?

Easy to forget something like that if you change a process. 99% sure it's a mistake.

PCB mounted stabilizers.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 27 December 2017, 20:33:06

I did not receive any screws with which to attach it.
Show Image
(https://imgur.com/yMeukKj.jpg)


lololoolololololololololololol

You'd think they'd have managed to get something right by accident at this point.

These will work: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E5EOIWW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 27 December 2017, 22:11:38
Received my dark gray Exent today.  No cracks in the PC.  Anodizing is at least as good as the photos -- with indoor light anyway.  All of my RGB LEDs came on bright green out of the box, so I assume that's a good sign.  I'll still plan to check the other colors when I do the final assembly.

Like many, I'm also missing the stabilizers I paid for.  So hoping there's more to come on that...  But for the moment, counting my blessings.   :-[
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 28 December 2017, 11:11:37

Can anyone tell me what kind of screws I need to attach that, and also should I be looking at plate mounted or pcb mounted stabilizers for this?


Received my dark gray Exent today.  No cracks in the PC.  Anodizing is at least as good as the photos -- with indoor light anyway.  All of my RGB LEDs came on bright green out of the box, so I assume that's a good sign.  I'll still plan to check the other colors when I do the final assembly.

Like many, I'm also missing the stabilizers I paid for. 

Man, I haven't heard of a single order being sent out that has everything packed correctly.  Worrisome.  Anyone out there get theirs as ordered and fulling functioning?

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 28 December 2017, 16:00:35
Telfire, you gonna list reparation demands for the pains you have endured?


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 28 December 2017, 16:30:25
Received my dark gray Exent today.  No cracks in the PC.  Anodizing is at least as good as the photos -- with indoor light anyway.  All of my RGB LEDs came on bright green out of the box, so I assume that's a good sign.  I'll still plan to check the other colors when I do the final assembly.

Like many, I'm also missing the stabilizers I paid for.  So hoping there's more to come on that...  But for the moment, counting my blessings.   :-[

How do you like the color on the grey? I have been anxious about their moving to a much darker looking grey being too close to black. Are you happy with the color/shade?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 29 December 2017, 01:55:52
Received my dark gray Exent today.  No cracks in the PC.  Anodizing is at least as good as the photos -- with indoor light anyway.  All of my RGB LEDs came on bright green out of the box, so I assume that's a good sign.  I'll still plan to check the other colors when I do the final assembly.

Like many, I'm also missing the stabilizers I paid for.  So hoping there's more to come on that...  But for the moment, counting my blessings.   :-[

How do you like the color on the grey? I have been anxious about their moving to a much darker looking grey being too close to black. Are you happy with the color/shade?
Yeah.  Honestly, it's good.  It's not as dark as those last few photos.  There's definitely no mistaking it for black.  I'm pretty happy with how it came out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 29 December 2017, 03:22:26
Yeah.  Honestly, it's good.  It's not as dark as those last few photos.  There's definitely no mistaking it for black.  I'm pretty happy with how it came out.

That makes me feel better, thanks Data.

I'm bummed to hear so many people are missing stabs, but am sure that will be an easier correct than some of the cracked polys/dead LEDs
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 29 December 2017, 07:25:17
(http://i.imgur.com/nIotZIa.jpg)

Cody and I got into it on 12/25. At the risk of being accused of slander (again), clearly those responsible for this GB are aware of the issues and choosing not to respond.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 29 December 2017, 08:10:45
I don't know how everyone else feels but this stalkerish vibe being passed on is making me a little uncomfortable at this point and I'm not even remotely involved in it - I was one of the first ones to scold the GB runners for doing a poor job of communicating but lately it's getting harder and harder to side with the customer in general (even though I am one myself), I really hope I get my shipment sent out soon so I can just ignore the fact this abomination of a thread exists.

I mean no disrespect and I understand the frustration that has built up but digging people's online status and doing **** like this is more telling of one's personality than it is of the GB runners. Just my opinion. If we wanna continue roleplaying as the crazy girlfriend that followed you at night and took pictures of you paying the girl at the gas station and then demanded an explanation or that asked "who's Becky" in a degrading tone when you answer a work call then by all means do continue, I guess I'll have to eat it up until my stuff ships.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 29 December 2017, 08:20:18
I don't know how everyone else feels but this stalkerish vibe being passed on is making me a little uncomfortable at this point and I'm not even remotely involved in it - I was one of the first ones to scold the GB runners for doing a poor job of communicating but lately it's getting harder and harder to side with the customer in general (even though I am one myself), I really hope I get my shipment sent out soon so I can just ignore the fact this abomination of a thread exists.

I mean no disrespect and I understand the frustration that has built up but digging people's online status and doing **** like this is more telling of one's personality than it is of the GB runners. Just my opinion. If we wanna continue roleplaying as the crazy girlfriend that followed you at night and took pictures of you paying the girl at the gas station and then demanded an explanation or that asked "who's Becky" in a degrading tone when you answer a work call then by all means do continue, I guess I'll have to eat it up until my stuff ships.

Well, for your sake I hope your shipment is complete and undamaged so you don't have to endure the frustration of:

1) Complete disregard for your issues (keep in mind, all I asked for was an acknowledgement of them owing me stabs and that they would be sent with my replacement bottom)

2) Having a GB runner/volunteer/friend lay into you over "slandering" them, when the comment was clearly written to address the GB runners en masse.

The flip side to all this is, none of this would be necessary if Juahenza and Yuktsi would behave like adults and handle their obligations in a reasonable manner.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Fri, 29 December 2017, 09:52:23
OMG, I got a tracking number!!! I don’t know how to use it, but I do have it.

Hopefully won’t get stuck in customs too long. It might even arrive in the same timeframe as the switches.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 29 December 2017, 11:29:44
Vigrith I think it's pretty insulting that the leadership comes on to geekhack, browses around doing whatever they do, and then choose not to respond either in this thread or to PMs. They should absolutely be held accountable for that. I consider what they are doing a total offense to the community.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Fri, 29 December 2017, 11:56:48
Guys let's drop this "Who's online today" thing. Same thing happened in the summer and its happening now too. Can't do much now except wait for the shipping to be over and see what the runners have in their minds about broken and missing stuff.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Fri, 29 December 2017, 15:53:56
So, got my tracking number today which is nice.  I'll keep you guys updated on how my package arrived and if the brass plate was included (hopefully it is, since that's what i paid for).  Hope everyone had a good Christmas and have a great new years!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 29 December 2017, 16:12:16
I really love the Exent and can't wait to get mine. I'm really sad to think the creative team behind this might not work on any future projects because of the ****ty experience they have had with backers on this thread. If you have aired a grievance then assume it's been seen, and if you didn't get a response, assume there is a reason, there isn't anything you can do about it at this point but wait.

Everyone has made their side abundantly clear on the situation and it clearly isn't making a difference, so maybe it's time to just wait and see what happens and stop filling this thread with more of the same tired crap.

Everyone agrees it sucks, saying it over and over again isn't a solution. Stalking the parties involved isn't going to help. And complaining repeatedly about the issue you have isn't going to fix it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 29 December 2017, 16:17:51
I really love the Exent and can't wait to get mine. I'm really sad to think the creative team behind this might not work on any future projects because of the ****ty experience they have had with backers on this thread. If you have aired a grievance then assume it's been seen, and if you didn't get a response, assume there is a reason, there isn't anything you can do about it at this point but wait.

Everyone has made their side abundantly clear on the situation and it clearly isn't making a difference, so maybe it's time to just wait and see what happens and stop filling this thread with more of the same tired crap.

Everyone agrees it sucks, saying it over and over again isn't a solution. Stalking the parties involved isn't going to help. And complaining repeatedly about the issue you have isn't going to fix it.

The ****ty experience they've had? Oh boo ****ing hoo. No sympathy from me.

Maybe they would've had a better experience if they could do their ****ing job.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 29 December 2017, 16:30:32
Vigrith I think it's pretty insulting that the leadership comes on to geekhack, browses around doing whatever they do, and then choose not to respond either in this thread or to PMs. They should absolutely be held accountable for that. I consider what they are doing a total offense to the community.

I don't feel insulted but I do agree it is relatively disrespectful. However, there is a difference between holding them accountable and publicly admitting/proudly displaying what is basically stalking at this point. Just because they mistreated you does not mean you should mistreat them, obviously that is not a moral policy you agree with as has been made abundantly clear throughout the thread but it's still not the right thing to do.

Cody has stated most of them are currently away with their families till the coming week and that we'll have information at that time, browsing around on one's phone is different from delving into the pits of hell (which admittedly, for the better part, they have created) to deal with customer complaints and demands for updates.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 29 December 2017, 16:46:02
Oh boo ****ing hoo. No sympathy from me.

I know you're super upset, you really have made that crystal clear, but you have got to be exhausted repeating yourself at this point. And to be clear, I do think a lot of your perspective has been justified time and time again, but you seem hell bent on bringing it up every chance.

Frankly, being respected as a customer by someone I don't know is less important to me than getting cool things like the Exent. So I hope they will continue to make awesome products despite not being great at the customer service thing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Fri, 29 December 2017, 16:52:13
I really love the Exent and can't wait to get mine. I'm really sad to think the creative team behind this might not work on any future projects because of the ****ty experience they have had with backers on this thread. If you have aired a grievance then assume it's been seen, and if you didn't get a response, assume there is a reason, there isn't anything you can do about it at this point but wait.

Everyone has made their side abundantly clear on the situation and it clearly isn't making a difference, so maybe it's time to just wait and see what happens and stop filling this thread with more of the same tired crap.

Everyone agrees it sucks, saying it over and over again isn't a solution. Stalking the parties involved isn't going to help. And complaining repeatedly about the issue you have isn't going to fix it.

The ****ty experience they've had? Oh boo ****ing hoo. No sympathy from me.

Maybe they would've had a better experience if they could do their ****ing job.
all the creative backers did their job. it's the GB runners who haven't.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Sat, 30 December 2017, 00:44:11
If you didn't receive screws for the steel foot, check the outside of your shipping box.

(https://i.imgur.com/N9EvUyv.jpg)

Apparently some of our orders had the screws taped to the outside.  Mine presumably escaped their plastic & tape prison in transit and someone actually bothered to come along afterward and put more tape over the (now) empty bag.  That was awfully nice of them!

The list of crazy **** that happened in this GB just keeps growing at every turn.  All I can do is laugh.  :))

Full disclosure: The team has assured me in private that they will replace the missing screws.  This is merely a public service announcement.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 30 December 2017, 01:25:31
If you didn't receive screws for the steel foot, check the outside of your shipping box.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/N9EvUyv.jpg)


Apparently some of our orders had the screws taped to the outside.  Mine presumably escaped their plastic & tape prison in transit and someone actually bothered to come along afterward and put more tape over the (now) empty bag.  That was awfully nice of them!

The list of crazy **** that happened in this GB just keeps growing at every turn.  All I can do is laugh.  :))

Full disclosure: The team has assured me in private that they will replace the missing screws.  This is merely a public service announcement.

It always amazes me the effort they will go to patch up the packaging regardless of how destroyed something is. Half the box could be shredded and they will paper mache that **** back together and coat it with a nice thick tape skin.

Skewer something with a fork lift? Just needs some tape.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Sat, 30 December 2017, 10:21:43
I bought the premium kit, still not get any tracking number, is this normal?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Sat, 30 December 2017, 10:22:43
I bought the premium kit, still not get any tracking number, is this normal?

Yes


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Sat, 30 December 2017, 10:24:42
I bought the premium kit, still not get any tracking number, is this normal?

Yes


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Sat, 30 December 2017, 15:06:06
Still waiting on basic kit with brass plate / black aluminum bottom... what's the status of the alu bottoms? This has been a dumpster fire of a GB, and it'll probably be the last I go in on with any of the T.A.R.O. name on it...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 30 December 2017, 15:23:55
Still waiting on basic kit with brass plate / black aluminum bottom... what's the status of the alu bottoms? This has been a dumpster fire of a GB, and it'll probably be the last I go in on with any of the T.A.R.O. name on it...

I’ll try to post a meaningful update as soon as I get brought up to speed, but this will likely only happen next week as the GB leaders are currently off on holiday with their families.

Until then, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Sat, 30 December 2017, 21:00:07
Still waiting on basic kit with brass plate / black aluminum bottom... what's the status of the alu bottoms? This has been a dumpster fire of a GB, and it'll probably be the last I go in on with any of the T.A.R.O. name on it...

It is my understanding that the aluminum bottoms have been milled and are waiting for anodization.  I ordered the aluminum bottom as well and I don't expect a tracking number for at least a few more weeks.

Have a Happy New Year all!  Take a deep breath and relax a bit.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 30 December 2017, 21:03:09
Still waiting on basic kit with brass plate / black aluminum bottom... what's the status of the alu bottoms? This has been a dumpster fire of a GB, and it'll probably be the last I go in on with any of the T.A.R.O. name on it...

It is my understanding that the aluminum bottoms have been milled and are waiting for anodization.  I ordered the aluminum bottom as well and I don't expect a tracking number for at least a few more weeks.

Have a Happy New Year all!  Take a deep breath and relax a bit.

yutski's anodizer is notoriously delayed

they have several very large clients (that you've definitely heard of), so those jobs often get priority over random ass keyboard parts

but it will come
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Sat, 30 December 2017, 22:52:31
Still waiting on basic kit with brass plate / black aluminum bottom... what's the status of the alu bottoms? This has been a dumpster fire of a GB, and it'll probably be the last I go in on with any of the T.A.R.O. name on it...

It is my understanding that the aluminum bottoms have been milled and are waiting for anodization.  I ordered the aluminum bottom as well and I don't expect a tracking number for at least a few more weeks.

Have a Happy New Year all!  Take a deep breath and relax a bit.

Oh I'm perfectly calm, I just think it's weird what people will deal with on geekhack but then also harp on massdrop or others whenever minor delays happen (and they're minor compared to what's happened here). To me the lack of communication from the GB runners to the community/individuals probably also happens between the GB runners themselves and it shows given the many orders missing stabs or screws, broken polycarb, or bad anno or who knows what we haven't seen yet. I understand things go south sometimes but I've not seen it on this level nearly ubiquitous across all orders, and I'm afraid something will be wrong with my board/order and I won't have any resolution to it since it will probably be out of the paypal time window to do that. I hope I'm wrong. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 00:05:35
I just think it's weird what people will deal with on geekhack

Have you been reading this thread? This has become one of the most toxic GB threads I've seen because people are not dealing. Your sentiment is months behind the curve here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Sun, 31 December 2017, 01:07:32
I just think it's weird what people will deal with on geekhack

Have you been reading this thread? This has become one of the most toxic GB threads I've seen because people are not dealing. Your sentiment is months behind the curve here.

Yeah, and I've seen a lot of people giving more slack than they should be and being apologetic, like you, saying the GB runners are suffering having a bad experience lol. Yeah, they're suffering alright, from a lack of responsibility and experience. I'm not trying to be an ******* here but beating around the bush and not being honest doesn't help anyone. I'm hopeful they can improve from a lot of the criticisms other people have brought up, but I guess we'll see after the new year ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 01:49:43
Yeah, and I've seen a lot of people giving more slack than they should be and being apologetic, like you, saying the GB runners are suffering having a bad experience lol. Yeah, they're suffering alright, from a lack of responsibility and experience. I'm not trying to be an ******* here but beating around the bush and not being honest doesn't help anyone. I'm hopeful they can improve from a lot of the criticisms other people have brought up, but I guess we'll see after the new year ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I had a whole post written out and decided it was pointless, rude and antagonistic.

The truth is, they are doing something cool for us by making this board, and we are acting like petulant children because they aren't doing what we want when we want it. They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked. Would it be nice if there was better communication and no delays? Sure, of course it would. But that's not the case, so you either take you refund, or accept that there are going to be continued delays and ****ty communication. Because there are going to continue to be both, whether you think that's ok or not.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 31 December 2017, 09:25:53
They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked.

I'm curious why you think this is the case, when they won't refund me $6.

(https://i.imgur.com/1rNWI89.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 31 December 2017, 09:29:35
Yeah, and I've seen a lot of people giving more slack than they should be and being apologetic, like you, saying the GB runners are suffering having a bad experience lol. Yeah, they're suffering alright, from a lack of responsibility and experience. I'm not trying to be an ******* here but beating around the bush and not being honest doesn't help anyone. I'm hopeful they can improve from a lot of the criticisms other people have brought up, but I guess we'll see after the new year ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I had a whole post written out and decided it was pointless, rude and antagonistic.

The truth is, they are doing something cool for us by making this board, and we are acting like petulant children because they aren't doing what we want when we want it. They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked. Would it be nice if there was better communication and no delays? Sure, of course it would. But that's not the case, so you either take you refund, or accept that there are going to be continued delays and ****ty communication. Because there are going to continue to be both, whether you think that's ok or not.
yeah where's this refund option cause if it's available sign me up
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 31 December 2017, 11:25:35
They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked.

It's hard to start a refund process when the runners won't even talk to us. I haven't seen anything about a refund process, and I personally doubt there is one. They would lose thousands of dollars due to the amount of people who would jump on getting their money back. And this GB has gone on for so long that we're likely outside the PayPal dispute window (admittedly I'm not sure of that though). So we're in it for the long haul, which hopefully won't be terribly longer.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 31 December 2017, 11:28:39
They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked.

It's hard to start a refund process when the runners won't even talk to us. I haven't seen anything about a refund process, and I personally doubt there is one. They would lose thousands of dollars due to the amount of people who would jump on getting their money back. And this GB has gone on for so long that we're likely outside the PayPal dispute window (admittedly I'm not sure of that though). So we're in it for the long haul, which hopefully won't be terribly longer.
this is correct. Paypal only has a 90 day window. i have no idea what dead pixel is talking about.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 31 December 2017, 11:41:41
They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked.

It's hard to start a refund process when the runners won't even talk to us. I haven't seen anything about a refund process, and I personally doubt there is one. They would lose thousands of dollars due to the amount of people who would jump on getting their money back. And this GB has gone on for so long that we're likely outside the PayPal dispute window (admittedly I'm not sure of that though). So we're in it for the long haul, which hopefully won't be terribly longer.
this is correct. Paypal only has a 90 day window. i have no idea what dead pixel is talking about.

180 day window
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 31 December 2017, 11:47:15
They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked.

It's hard to start a refund process when the runners won't even talk to us. I haven't seen anything about a refund process, and I personally doubt there is one. They would lose thousands of dollars due to the amount of people who would jump on getting their money back. And this GB has gone on for so long that we're likely outside the PayPal dispute window (admittedly I'm not sure of that though). So we're in it for the long haul, which hopefully won't be terribly longer.
this is correct. Paypal only has a 90 day window. i have no idea what dead pixel is talking about.

180 day window
my mistake 180 days. safe to say we're quite a bit beyond that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Sun, 31 December 2017, 12:28:47
Yeah, and I've seen a lot of people giving more slack than they should be and being apologetic, like you, saying the GB runners are suffering having a bad experience lol. Yeah, they're suffering alright, from a lack of responsibility and experience. I'm not trying to be an ******* here but beating around the bush and not being honest doesn't help anyone. I'm hopeful they can improve from a lot of the criticisms other people have brought up, but I guess we'll see after the new year ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I had a whole post written out and decided it was pointless, rude and antagonistic.

The truth is, they are doing something cool for us by making this board, and we are acting like petulant children because they aren't doing what we want when we want it. They will give you a refund, you have a completely scot-free out, you are choosing not to take it, and in choosing that you are agreeing to bad communication and delays by deciding to stay in and not have 100% of your money back no questions asked. Would it be nice if there was better communication and no delays? Sure, of course it would. But that's not the case, so you either take you refund, or accept that there are going to be continued delays and ****ty communication. Because there are going to continue to be both, whether you think that's ok or not.

As others have said, this is nonsense. Been more than the 180 days to open a dispute so I have no idea where you're getting this unless you're now yet another person not involved with the GB making statements about the GB ala cody? I ended my post on a positive note and somehow you read between the lines I'm rage mode angry and want only a refund. Please re-read my post because I definitely said I only want one IF there's problems with my board, and that's a big if. I'm 99% all of the people in the group buy think the Exent is cool... that's why we're in it... but again, that doesn't mean you can ignore glaring issues. "pointless, rude, antagonistic"... next sentence, calls anyone criticizing a petulant child. Mhmm...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 13:59:32
As others have said, this is nonsense. Been more than the 180 days to open a dispute so I have no idea where you're getting this unless you're now yet another person not involved with the GB making statements about the GB ala cody? I ended my post on a positive note and somehow you read between the lines I'm rage mode angry and want only a refund. Please re-read my post because I definitely said I only want one IF there's problems with my board, and that's a big if. I'm 99% all of the people in the group buy think the Exent is cool... that's why we're in it... but again, that doesn't mean you can ignore glaring issues. "pointless, rude, antagonistic"... next sentence, calls anyone criticizing a petulant child. Mhmm...

That was my non-antagonistic post, I toned that one down to be civil.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:01:13
yeah where's this refund option cause if it's available sign me up

Back in the thread somewhere one of the runners offered refunds to anyone that wants one. But I don't so I don't care enough to look for it
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:18:33
yeah where's this refund option cause if it's available sign me up

Back in the thread somewhere one of the runners offered refunds to anyone that wants one. But I don't so I don't care enough to look for it
searched the word "refund" in this thread. not a single GB runner has even used the word since the thread's beginning. i believe you are mistaken.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:32:57
searched the word "refund" in this thread. not a single GB runner has even used the word since the thread's beginning. i believe you are mistaken.

I'm not.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:34:38
searched the word "refund" in this thread. not a single GB runner has even used the word since the thread's beginning. i believe you are mistaken.

I'm not.
you are
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:38:36
searched the word "refund" in this thread. not a single GB runner has even used the word since the thread's beginning. i believe you are mistaken.

I'm not.

I've been requesting a $6 refund for 3+ weeks. How wrong do you have to be in order to have some self-awareness?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:40:30
I've been requesting a $6 refund for 3+ weeks. How wrong do you have to be in order to have some self-awareness?

Nobody cares about your $6. I'm talking about refunds offered for people who have not received anything yet. Do you seriously lack self-awareness so profoundly to think that your $6 is even remotely a priority right now?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:43:09
searched the word "refund" in this thread. not a single GB runner has even used the word since the thread's beginning. i believe you are mistaken.

I'm not.

I've been requesting a $6 refund for 3+ weeks. How wrong do you have to be in order to have some self-awareness?

No body cares about your $6. I'm talking about refunds offered for people who have not received anything yet.
"no body cares"

dead pixel has been licking the GB runners boots since  at least August and offering absolutely nothing of value. i love his refutation of my claim that they've never offered a refund. it was essentially "nuh uh". the guy is definitely not intelligent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:47:13
dead pixel has been licking the GB runners boots since  at least August and offering absolutely nothing of value. i love his refutation of my claim that they've never offered a refund. it was essentially "nuh uh". the guy is definitely not intelligent.

Ah yes.. The ol' "I don't agree with you so you must be stupid" chestnut. And I have been licking boots since the first concept picture, this board is gorgeous and I can't wait to get one.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:48:53
I've been requesting a $6 refund for 3+ weeks.

PM your paypal and I will send you $6 if that is a priority to you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:51:03
dead pixel has been licking the GB runners boots since  at least August and offering absolutely nothing of value. i love his refutation of my claim that they've never offered a refund. it was essentially "nuh uh". the guy is definitely not intelligent.

Ah yes.. The ol' "I don't agree with you so you must be stupid" chestnut. And I have been licking boots since the first concept picture, this board is gorgeous and I can't wait to get one.
ah the ol' strawman chestnut. your stupidity has nothing to do with the disagreement. you make baseless claims and refuse to support them with facts. where's the refund offer from the GB runners?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:57:14
ah the ol' strawman chestnut. your stupidity has nothing to do with the disagreement. you make baseless claims and refuse to support them with facts. where's the refund offer from the GB runners?

Not only do I not care enough to try and find it, I don't care enough to have any strong feelings about being right. I remember it, I think I'm right and I don't have to prove waste effort trying to prove it because it doesn't matter. At all. I'm not upset with the delays or lack of communication, I'm pretty content with this Group Buy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 31 December 2017, 14:58:47
Ah yes.. The ol' "I don't agree with you so you must be stupid" chestnut. And I have been licking boots since the first concept picture, this board is gorgeous and I can't wait to get one.
ah the ol' strawman chestnut. your stupidity has nothing to do with the disagreement. you make baseless claims and refuse to support them with facts. where's the refund offer from the GB runners?

Not only do I not care enough to try and find it, I don't care enough to have any strong feelings about being right. I remember it, I think I'm right and I don't have to prove waste effort trying to prove it because it doesn't matter. At all. I'm not upset with the delays or lack of communication, I'm pretty content with this Group Buy.
lol what a cop out. pathetic.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 15:05:13
lol what a cop out. pathetic.

Keeping it classy, demorer, love it.


Anyways, I still think that it makes sense to wait until shipping has finished before corrections are handled. Especially if more parts will need to be ordered, I'm looking at you cracked poly bottoms.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 31 December 2017, 15:35:57
I've been requesting a $6 refund for 3+ weeks.

PM your paypal and I will send you $6 if that is a priority to you.

Pm sent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 31 December 2017, 15:53:24
yeah where's this refund option cause if it's available sign me up

Back in the thread somewhere one of the runners offered refunds to anyone that wants one. But I don't so I don't care enough to look for it

Almost positive you are mixing up this GB with the m65a.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 15:56:16
Almost positive you are mixing up this GB with the m65a.

Yeah I might be
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:48:46
lol what a cop out. pathetic.

Keeping it classy, demorer, love it.


Anyways, I still think that it makes sense to wait until shipping has finished before corrections are handled. Especially if more parts will need to be ordered, I'm looking at you cracked poly bottoms.

Right of course. We should wait an extra three months because we're second class pieces of **** who didn't spring for the aluminum bottoms. To the back of the bus cracked polycarb boys, we don't give a **** that you got a ****ed up keyboard get you just shutup and take it until we decide we've gotten enough relaxing in to deal with you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:51:06
Right of course. We should wait an extra three months because we're second class pieces of **** who didn't spring for the aluminum bottoms. To the back of the bus cracked polycarb boys, we don't give a **** that you got a ****ed up keyboard get you just shutup and take it until we decide we've gotten enough relaxing in to deal with you.

And if they need to order more poly bottoms to replace the cracked ones doesn't it make sense they would need a total number before ordering? I doubt the manufacturer would even let them order a single unit at a time.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:53:09
lol what a cop out. pathetic.

Keeping it classy, demorer, love it.


Anyways, I still think that it makes sense to wait until shipping has finished before corrections are handled. Especially if more parts will need to be ordered, I'm looking at you cracked poly bottoms.

Right of course. We should wait an extra three months because we're second class pieces of **** who didn't spring for the aluminum bottoms. To the back of the bus cracked polycarb boys, we don't give a **** that you got a ****ed up keyboard get you just shutup and take it until we decide we've gotten enough relaxing in to deal with you.
the guy is dense. dead pixel the same guy back in august who was critical of everyone who complained about the lack of communication 4 months ago and look at this GB now. the amount arrogance he possesses is palpable.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:53:37
lol what a cop out. pathetic.

Keeping it classy, demorer, love it.


Anyways, I still think that it makes sense to wait until shipping has finished before corrections are handled. Especially if more parts will need to be ordered, I'm looking at you cracked poly bottoms.

Right of course. We should wait an extra three months because we're second class pieces of **** who didn't spring for the aluminum bottoms. To the back of the bus cracked polycarb boys, we don't give a **** that you got a ****ed up keyboard get you just shutup and take it until we decide we've gotten enough relaxing in to deal with you.
Hey if you ordered a premium kit youd still be waiting for anything at all to happen. Just watching this thread makes me more and more nervous by the day as to what's finally going to ship out to me but seriously dude, take it to PMs at this point - I don't care if they aren't responding to you, they aren't responding to anyone and you're just clogging up the entire thread with your toxic ****.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:56:37
lol what a cop out. pathetic.

Keeping it classy, demorer, love it.


Anyways, I still think that it makes sense to wait until shipping has finished before corrections are handled. Especially if more parts will need to be ordered, I'm looking at you cracked poly bottoms.

Right of course. We should wait an extra three months because we're second class pieces of **** who didn't spring for the aluminum bottoms. To the back of the bus cracked polycarb boys, we don't give a **** that you got a ****ed up keyboard get you just shutup and take it until we decide we've gotten enough relaxing in to deal with you.
Hey if you ordered a premium kit youd still be waiting for anything at all to happen. Just watching this thread makes me more and more nervous by the day as to what's finally going to ship out to me but seriously dude, take it to PMs at this point - I don't care if they aren't responding to you, they aren't responding to anyone and you're just clogging up the entire thread with your toxic ****.

Bro don't give me any ****, I was in the first "guinea pig" round. Shipped out ****ed up PCB, shipped out an assembled board so the polycarb cracked. All I'm doing is not supporting the leadership for screwing things up, as opposed to some other people in here.


You on the other hand will probably be fine. You'll get screws, alu bottom (which can't break in shipping), a fixed PCB, etc.

And no point taking it to PMs because they know about the issues and I'm waiting for public releases.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 16:59:10
the guy is dense. dead pixel the same guy back in august who was critical of everyone who complained about the lack of communication 4 months ago and look at this GB now. the amount arrogance he possesses is palpable.

Spare the thread your insults. At the very least keep the conversation on topic if you can't help yourself from being an insulting ****. My point is sound regardless, poly replacements likely need to be ordered from the manufacturer and it makes more sense to wait until they know how many they will need to order total
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:08:13
the guy is dense. dead pixel the same guy back in august who was critical of everyone who complained about the lack of communication 4 months ago and look at this GB now. the amount arrogance he possesses is palpable.

Spare the thread your insults. At the very least keep the conversation on topic if you can't help yourself from being an insulting ****. My point is sound regardless, poly replacements likely need to be ordered from the manufacturer and it makes more sense to wait until they know how many they will need to order total
is this coming from the same guy spreading misinformation about refunds?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:19:15
is this coming from the same guy spreading misinformation about refunds?

I still think I am right about the refunds. But you don't have to be insulting, simple as that. Regardless of whether you agree with my perspective or not, doesn't matter, I don't care, but I do believe that it's important that everyone makes an effort not to be a ****bag.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:19:58
is this coming from the same guy spreading misinformation about refunds?

I still think I am right about the refunds. But you don't have to be insulting, simple as that. Regardless of whether you agree with my perspective or not, doesn't matter, I don't care, but I do believe that it's important that everyone makes an effort not to be a ****bag.
lead by example and we'll do the same bud
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:24:59
<edited to lead by example>
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:32:12
Everybody needs to calm down. Picking fights with each other will not solve anything. I understand the frustration you all must have, but until contact is made with the runners, flinging **** at each other solves nothing.

I am leaving the thread open for now to allow the runners to hopefully post updates soon. If this behavior continues then it will be locked and there will be even less opportunities for updates.

Thank you and happy new year.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:34:33
Everybody needs to calm down. Picking fights with each other will not solve anything. I understand the frustration you all must have, but until contact is made with the runners, flinging **** at each other solves nothing.

I am leaving the thread open for now to allow the runners to hopefully post updates soon. If this behavior continues then it will be locked and there will be even less opportunities for updates.

Thank you and happy new year.

christ, finally

thanks GJ, happy new year
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:57:59
Everybody needs to calm down. Picking fights with each other will not solve anything. I understand the frustration you all must have, but until contact is made with the runners, flinging **** at each other solves nothing.

I am leaving the thread open for now to allow the runners to hopefully post updates soon. If this behavior continues then it will be locked and there will be even less opportunities for updates.

Thank you and happy new year.

Are you able to lock the thread to all but OP?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sun, 31 December 2017, 17:59:38
Everybody needs to calm down. Picking fights with each other will not solve anything. I understand the frustration you all must have, but until contact is made with the runners, flinging **** at each other solves nothing.

I am leaving the thread open for now to allow the runners to hopefully post updates soon. If this behavior continues then it will be locked and there will be even less opportunities for updates.

Thank you and happy new year.

Are you able to lock the thread to all but OP?

I don’t want to lock the thread due to issues with the gb, but will if things don’t stay civil. If everyone can just keep a level head it should be fine and hopefully the runners will pop in with an update, and not fear being slaughtered by text.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 31 December 2017, 22:09:33
is this coming from the same guy spreading misinformation about refunds?

I still think I am right about the refunds. But you don't have to be insulting, simple as that. Regardless of whether you agree with my perspective or not, doesn't matter, I don't care, but I do believe that it's important that everyone makes an effort not to be a ****bag.

You are welcome to think whatever you like, but you need to stop being donald trump and stating your beliefs as facts.

Lucky for you I was bored and am a fast reader, so I decided to go through all 40 pages of posts.  NOT ONCE has anyone offered a refund like the m65-a. In fact, you could even argue the opposite has been made clear as the GB runners have already indicated all GB funds have been spent and they are dipping into personal funds.

Spreading misinformation, especially as a means to attack those with legitimate concerns is helpful to no one.

There is only a single issue which I believe warrants real criticism in this GB, and that is poor communication. The GB was listed as a 12-14 (16?) week turnaround with the promise of weekly updates, but the fact that it was going to miss came closer to 22 weeks in. It was then, around The beginning of August when they announced the big delay of... another 2-3 months, so basically they were starting the timer over. In that update they appologized for the lack of updates, and promised more frequent ones. A few more months of sparing updates with mostly just photos and no info, and then we finally start shipping. Cases go out, bad leds are discovered “oh, yeah that, we totally caught that in QC, but decided you didn’t need to know about it and we didn’t think it needed to be fixed, you don’t need an opinion”. Then someone notices a cracked bottom and they get attacked for making it up, even the GB runners themselves made it a point to respond “we didn’t send anything out cracked like that”. It wasn’t until more reports popped up, “oh, maybe that is a problem, we will investigate now that we know you aren’t a liar”. And then we get reports they are repacking, and then radio silence.

I don’t give 2 ****s about the delays, delays happen, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t keep updating. As soon as we left the 12-16 week window, a new one should have been established. If it was gonna be missed, then there should have been a new update and a new window.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sun, 31 December 2017, 22:16:05
Oh, and to be clear, the reason I don’t think not offering refunds is reasonable is because there should never be an expectation of a refund on a GB unless the entire thing fails before production. It’s just not financially viable and to expect that is just unreasonable.

The M65 was a unique case since the delays were not related to the product, but the runner, and so he reasonably offered refunds to people who couldn’t wait for him to address his business. This again is reasonable. But the delays in this GB are not ones which could have been avoided.

But the point is, setting the expectation that any GB should be offering refunds after the purchase order is made and paid is wrong.

Now, refunds of stabs might make sense just cause the logistics of shipping.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sun, 31 December 2017, 22:24:36
I don’t give 2 ****s about the delays, delays happen, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t keep updating. As soon as we left the 12-16 week window, a new one should have been established. If it was gonna be missed, then there should have been a new update and a new window.

This has been my largest gripe with this group buy, to be honest. I hate it when you set estimated dates then do nothing, say nothing, when we go past it. Every time a new update comes "Hey we're going to do x til y time" then y time comes, then after a delay the cycle repeats itself. Time and time again.

I too don't see refunds as being reasonable as long as they can do reparations from problems within the product.

If only the actual group buy runner can go online and update the damned thread. Everyone just wants their board, or get their broken/missing things fixed. It'd go with a lot less **** flinging if we actually got decent communication in this thread.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 31 December 2017, 22:46:23
I’ve been called a lot of things but comparing me to Trump hurts.  I don’t care enough to prove myself right by looking through the thread so I am taking your word for it. I am sorry for being wrong about the refund option. I must have seen that in the Rama project and gotten confused. I still feel like I am right, despite knowing intellectually that I’m not, I was so sure that I was that I can still feel it.

What you’re saying about group buy refunds makes perfect sense, that’s a good perspective.

Trump thing still stings a little bit though. That was harsh.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Mon, 01 January 2018, 12:16:30
Could anyone with a PCB check if holtites work with it?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 01 January 2018, 12:22:32
Could anyone with a PCB check if holtites work with it?

I remember asking this back when and I'm fairly certain the answer was yes - probably best get confirmation from someone who's already gotten their board and/or the GB runners, however. I'm not 100% sure any more, was such a long time again and I gave up on my idea to hotlite it months ago.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Mon, 01 January 2018, 12:28:13
Could anyone with a PCB check if holtites work with it?

I remember asking this back when and I'm fairly certain the answer was yes - probably best get confirmation from someone who's already gotten their board and/or the GB runners, however. I'm not 100% sure any more, was such a long time again and I gave up on my idea to hotlite it months ago.
I'm not sure about holtites too but I was thinking of using them on the bottom row and stabilized keys until I'm %100 sure with the layout and stabilizers. I really suck at desoldering.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 01 January 2018, 13:09:43
I'm not familiar with hotlites, they are what allow switches to be hotswappable right? What defines whether or not they can be used?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 01 January 2018, 13:18:37
I'm not familiar with hotlites, they are what allow switches to be hotswappable right? What defines whether or not they can be used?

the size and shape of the holes in the PCB, usually
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: juahenza on Tue, 02 January 2018, 06:06:31
Collecting the aluminum bottoms tomorrow. Will update you guys on how it goes. All basic kits except for those with aluminum bottom have been shipped.

Thank you and happy new year.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 02 January 2018, 06:51:49
Fair is fair.

Yuktsi did respond to my PM and promised that my issues would be taken care of.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Tue, 02 January 2018, 07:19:10
Collecting the aluminum bottoms tomorrow. Will update you guys on how it goes. All basic kits except for those with aluminum bottom have been shipped.

Thank you and happy new year.
Thanks Juahenza and happy New Year to you too. Please post some pics if you can when you get them as we only have a vague idea of how Aluminum bottoms look.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 02 January 2018, 07:39:28
Collecting the aluminum bottoms tomorrow. Will update you guys on how it goes. All basic kits except for those with aluminum bottom have been shipped.

Thank you and happy new year.

Thank you for the update, I think that is a quicker turnaround for the aluminium bottoms than most of us expected after the latest updates!

Would you mind addressing the premium kits once you get back to us tomorrow after collecting the bottoms? Last word on those with polycarbonate bottoms were that they were packing and shipping the week before Christmas but no one ever got a shipping notification I believe.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 02 January 2018, 10:21:35
The tracking number I was given is "out for delivery" In Houston Texas. I live in Orlando Florida. Are chances pretty good that I was just given the wrong tracking number?

Edit: Package has now been delivered to Houston, but I live in Orlando.


Disregard, tracking packages is hard  :-[
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 02 January 2018, 13:07:40
Collecting the aluminum bottoms tomorrow. Will update you guys on how it goes. All basic kits except for those with aluminum bottom have been shipped.

Thank you and happy new year.

Thanks Juahenza.  I hope you have a great New Year!

I ordered both a poly and aluminum bottom.  How will that be shipped?  All separate?  Just curious, no rush on anything. 

Good luck with fulfillment and issue resolutions.  Keep your head up.  You got this!   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 02 January 2018, 14:25:45
Now that all the basic kits are taken care of, I'd much appreciate on some updates or way forward with the premium kits. Is there a timeline you hope to achieve?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Tue, 02 January 2018, 17:33:58
Any pictures of the GMK set for premium? Just curious how it looks :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: garbo on Wed, 03 January 2018, 07:50:39
Any pictures of the GMK set for premium? Just curious how it looks :)

There's these, posted a few months ago and mentioned in this thread: https://www.instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Thu, 04 January 2018, 05:33:57
Hey there,

Can anyone who have received his/her exent tell me if there was any type of bill or receipt attached to the outside of the box?

Customs is holding mine and asking me to declare it and I have the option to do it as a gift, but if they have a receipt I will have to declare it as a commercial buy and pay higher taxes.

So please, can someone let me know?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Thu, 04 January 2018, 06:04:44
Collecting the aluminum bottoms tomorrow. Will update you guys on how it goes. All basic kits except for those with aluminum bottom have been shipped.

Thank you and happy new year.

Can’t wait to see some pics of the alu bottom. I hope they will ship soon!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Thu, 04 January 2018, 06:10:27
Hey there,

Can anyone who have received his/her exent tell me if there was any type of bill or receipt attached to the outside of the box?

Customs is holding mine and asking me to declare it and I have the option to do it as a gift, but if they have a receipt I will have to declare it as a commercial buy and pay higher taxes.

So please, can someone let me know?

Thanks!

The way this usually works is that you print out the PayPal Receipt of Payment and send/give that to customs.
It always worked for me.

Depending on where you are you will probably have to pay vat and/or customs on the board.

Good luck


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Thu, 04 January 2018, 08:29:44
Hey there,

Can anyone who have received his/her exent tell me if there was any type of bill or receipt attached to the outside of the box?

Customs is holding mine and asking me to declare it and I have the option to do it as a gift, but if they have a receipt I will have to declare it as a commercial buy and pay higher taxes.

So please, can someone let me know?

Thanks!

The way this usually works is that you print out the PayPal Receipt of Payment and send/give that to customs.
It always worked for me.

Depending on where you are you will probably have to pay vat and/or customs on the board.

Good luck


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Hey there, thanks for your response. You are correct, that'd be the usual procedure, but I have the option to declare it as a gift and (presumably) pay less taxes or even none but I need to know if they have a receipt, because if they do, I cannot realistically declare it as a gift and expect no problems. Otherwise, if they don't have any receipts I can declare it as a gift from a lower value and as I said pay less or nothing at all.

So te question still is, is there any receipt or bill taped outside of the box for customs to see?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 04 January 2018, 10:06:26
Hey there, thanks for your response. You are correct, that'd be the usual procedure, but I have the option to declare it as a gift and (presumably) pay less taxes or even none but I need to know if they have a receipt, because if they do, I cannot realistically declare it as a gift and expect no problems. Otherwise, if they don't have any receipts I can declare it as a gift from a lower value and as I said pay less or nothing at all.

So te question still is, is there any receipt or bill taped outside of the box for customs to see?

Please do not take my statement as fact BUT as someone from Europe, I duly checked how shipping was going to be handled prior to purchasing a slot and I am almost 100% certain there was a tick box for International customers that allowed us to request that the GB runners under declare the value of the package (I believe down to something like $150, maybe?) and mark it as a gift.

I would assume this would obviously mean there's no notice of the price paid anywhere, especially on the outside of the box. That said, and again, please do not take this as fact because not only was this a thousand months ago before the GB ended but it's also not something I've followed up on since. I've also not seen it mentioned anywhere within the thread since then, so... Yeah. Grain of salt et al, probably best to wait for official response if nothing else.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 04 January 2018, 10:31:43
I just noticed that Post #3 was updated on Jan. 2nd. Premium kits are currently being worked on; nice  :thumb: . I wonder if that's Premium + addons or just Premium alone.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dr_derivative on Thu, 04 January 2018, 10:32:35
11. What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80? Can you mark the parcel as gift?
Its an option for them to declare the package as being valued under $80. This can help people dodge some custom taxes and stuff, though has some small risks. All parcel will be marked as gift.

From the FAQ on the first page  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Thu, 04 January 2018, 11:09:08
I just noticed that Post #3 was updated on Jan. 2nd. Premium kits are currently being worked on; nice  :thumb: . I wonder if that's Premium + addons or just Premium alone.

That’s some good news!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Thu, 04 January 2018, 11:43:07
Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can actually track my package, have the number just dont know who it was shipped through.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: meirish on Thu, 04 January 2018, 13:38:47
Happy New Year all!

I want to second Gettys's request, and add another question: how long does it usually take between getting a shipping number and being able to track it? I remember reading that things were shipped via SF Express (is this right?), but the number I have isn't showing up in their website tracker, and it's been almost a week since my receipt was updated with tracking.

thanks for any info!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 04 January 2018, 13:49:09
They're shipped by S.F. Express and tracking works best directly on the shipper's web site, rather than through a 3rd party tracker.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Thu, 04 January 2018, 14:22:48
Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can actually track my package, have the number just dont know who it was shipped through.

You could also use a third party parcel tracker. I got example use “Parcel” a lot, which is an iOS app. Another great resource is https://www.packagetrackr.com. Both have an algorithm that checks your tracking code with a lot of different handlers and suggest you the one that the parcel was most likely shipped with.

They also help if you get a few packages a month and need to keep track of what arrives when.




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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Thu, 04 January 2018, 17:50:52
Thanks for the help everyone.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: d.caminero on Thu, 04 January 2018, 19:12:31
Hey there, thanks for your response. You are correct, that'd be the usual procedure, but I have the option to declare it as a gift and (presumably) pay less taxes or even none but I need to know if they have a receipt, because if they do, I cannot realistically declare it as a gift and expect no problems. Otherwise, if they don't have any receipts I can declare it as a gift from a lower value and as I said pay less or nothing at all.

So te question still is, is there any receipt or bill taped outside of the box for customs to see?

Please do not take my statement as fact BUT as someone from Europe, I duly checked how shipping was going to be handled prior to purchasing a slot and I am almost 100% certain there was a tick box for International customers that allowed us to request that the GB runners under declare the value of the package (I believe down to something like $150, maybe?) and mark it as a gift.

I would assume this would obviously mean there's no notice of the price paid anywhere, especially on the outside of the box. That said, and again, please do not take this as fact because not only was this a thousand months ago before the GB ended but it's also not something I've followed up on since. I've also not seen it mentioned anywhere within the thread since then, so... Yeah. Grain of salt et al, probably best to wait for official response if nothing else.

Thanks for your insight, you were clearly right as dr_derivative stated below you.

11. What is the option 'Under-declare parcel value to $80? Can you mark the parcel as gift?
Its an option for them to declare the package as being valued under $80. This can help people dodge some custom taxes and stuff, though has some small risks. All parcel will be marked as gift.

From the FAQ on the first page  ;D

Thank you so much, I'll be declaring it as a gift with an $80 value since I'm pretty sure I checked that box in the form.

Thanks everyone, hope to bring you some pics soon!
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 06 January 2018, 21:55:05
Has anyone gotten backlight working? Does this support it? it has leds and I tried putting some in to see if it works... not sure if i need to activate it via key press or what not.

Edit: got it working with bootmapper, anyone have the matrix layout or a way to put qmk onto it
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lzlzh035 on Sat, 06 January 2018, 22:55:38
Is there anyone who did not get a tracking number yet?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sun, 07 January 2018, 02:37:28
None yet as of yesterday night. They're probably not done. I also got brass plate and the other feet, so that might be why its later than the rest.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Sun, 07 January 2018, 06:05:51
Is there anyone who did not get a tracking number yet?

+1
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: traktor on Sun, 07 January 2018, 07:10:23
Is there anyone who did not get a tracking number yet?

I took over someone else's place in this buy. When I didn't receive a tracking number I contacted them and they told me that they sent the keyboard to the other guy and that they should try to fix it. Now they wont answer my PM's.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Sun, 07 January 2018, 09:48:18
Has anyone gotten backlight working? Does this support it? it has leds and I tried putting some in to see if it works... not sure if i need to activate it via key press or what not.

Edit: got it working with bootmapper, anyone have the matrix layout or a way to put qmk onto it

There's a port of QMK to PS2avrGB PCBs here (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/ps2avrGB). I have no idea how well it works or how many changes need to be made to support the Exent, but I'll try it out when mine arrives.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 07 January 2018, 12:09:53
I took over someone else's place in this buy. When I didn't receive a tracking number I contacted them and they told me that they sent the keyboard to the other guy and that they should try to fix it. Now they wont answer my PM's.

Is there a way you can contact the original buyer and work something out directly? I think that would be much faster than using Yuktsi or Juahenza as a middle-man.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: aeryxz on Sun, 07 January 2018, 17:41:03
Has anyone gotten backlight working? Does this support it? it has leds and I tried putting some in to see if it works... not sure if i need to activate it via key press or what not.

Edit: got it working with bootmapper, anyone have the matrix layout or a way to put qmk onto it

There's a port of QMK to PS2avrGB PCBs here (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/ps2avrGB). I have no idea how well it works or how many changes need to be made to support the Exent, but I'll try it out when mine arrives.

Thanks mate. I’m trying to do a bunch of layout stuff but super confused with how bootmapper works. Lmk how you go, might give it a try before I lock down the solder :)


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 07 January 2018, 18:04:50
QMK is cool when it works, but it's kicked my -ss so many times I'm almost tired of it. I need to desolder one of my boards and use an ISP programmer to reflash the bootloader because something randomly got corrupted.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 07 January 2018, 19:19:10
QMK is cool when it works, but it's kicked my -ss so many times I'm almost tired of it. I need to desolder one of my boards and use an ISP programmer to reflash the bootloader because something randomly got corrupted.

Which board? A TADA68 or one of the BootMapper boards?

A 32u4 based board should be immune to bootloader problems, except for the TADA68 because of the terrible decision to use the Mass Storage bootloader. It's 6kb, and the max protected bootloader size is 4kb, so part hangs over into program space.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 07 January 2018, 21:10:58
Which board? A TADA68 or one of the BootMapper boards?

A 32u4 based board should be immune to bootloader problems, except for the TADA68 because of the terrible decision to use the Mass Storage bootloader. It's 6kb, and the max protected bootloader size is 4kb, so part hangs over into program space.

A UK78, which uses an at90usb1286. Every time I try to flash a new hex the memory is supposedly cleared successfully, but when it checks it's never actually clear. I've been able to flash a hex but the board randomly disconnects from my PC.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 07 January 2018, 22:27:47
Which board? A TADA68 or one of the BootMapper boards?

A 32u4 based board should be immune to bootloader problems, except for the TADA68 because of the terrible decision to use the Mass Storage bootloader. It's 6kb, and the max protected bootloader size is 4kb, so part hangs over into program space.

A UK78, which uses an at90usb1286. Every time I try to flash a new hex the memory is supposedly cleared successfully, but when it checks it's never actually clear. I've been able to flash a hex but the board randomly disconnects from my PC.

Tried the force erase?

Dfu-programmer at90usb1286 erase -f
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 08 January 2018, 15:30:28
Tried the force erase?

Dfu-programmer at90usb1286 erase -f

Since it's a bit off-topic we can continue in PMs if you'd like, but in short yep. I've tried to force on both Windows and Linux (with some sudo added for good measure) and no luck.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: JAB on Mon, 08 January 2018, 18:33:21
Sorry if someone said this before, but where would I receive my tracking number when my order is shipping?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Mon, 08 January 2018, 19:23:50
PayPal receipt would be updated with the tracking number.

If you figure out how to actually track the package with it, let us know.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Mon, 08 January 2018, 21:30:44
I bought someone else's spot, how do I track?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 08 January 2018, 21:39:03
I bought someone else's spot, how do I track?

By asking them for the tracking number.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Tue, 09 January 2018, 01:08:47
I have asked yuktsi and juahenza for tracking number two days ago, still no reply.
My paypal edited time was last year.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 09 January 2018, 12:23:34
#Update 2nd January 2018
1. Basic Kit (except gray) all shipped
2. Basic Kit (gray) - all shipped
3. Basic Kit with addons - all shipped
4. Premium Kit going on - shipping

Any updates on those of us with aluminum bottoms? 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 09 January 2018, 12:33:05
#Update 2nd January 2018
1. Basic Kit (except gray) all shipped
2. Basic Kit (gray) - all shipped
3. Basic Kit with addons - all shipped
4. Premium Kit going on - shipping

Any updates on those of us with aluminum bottoms?

Yeah it would be nice. I bought off a slot for an exent with alu bottom, and I am supposed to pay complementary shipping, I message Juahenza few days ago, still no answer :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 09 January 2018, 12:44:08
Any updates on those of us with aluminum bottoms?

Juahenza was supposed to update us on the status of the aluminum bottoms themselves on January 3rd or 4th, but he hasn't posted anything. I'm guessing things are being worked on behind the scenes and nobody is providing updates. Hopefully we'll get some news soon.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 09 January 2018, 14:20:01
Any updates on those of us with aluminum bottoms?

Juahenza was supposed to update us on the status of the aluminum bottoms themselves on January 3rd or 4th, but he hasn't posted anything. I'm guessing things are being worked on behind the scenes and nobody is providing updates. Hopefully we'll get some news soon.

No worries, I can wait, just thought I might have missed something.  Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: merutz on Wed, 10 January 2018, 01:40:31
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Thank you guys!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 10 January 2018, 02:40:10
Any updates on those of us with aluminum bottoms?

Juahenza was supposed to update us on the status of the aluminum bottoms themselves on January 3rd or 4th, but he hasn't posted anything. I'm guessing things are being worked on behind the scenes and nobody is providing updates. Hopefully we'll get some news soon.
As far as I know, the anodizing is still in progress for both black and silver. But it's close to completion.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 10 January 2018, 06:16:45
Right on cue with another delay.

By the way jua said his last update it'd seem like the bottoms were finished already, as he said he was collecting them.

Thanks for the update though, yuktsi. I would like to request another updated timeline for the ones with alu bottoms, if at all possible. :)

Thanks again, hopefully fulfillment will be finished soon.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 10 January 2018, 07:55:05
Noticed the premium kits have moved to shipping - has anyone actually received tracking for their's yet?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 10 January 2018, 08:38:38
Right on cue with another delay.

By the way jua said his last update it'd seem like the bottoms were finished already, as he said he was collecting them.

Thanks for the update though, yuktsi. I would like to request another updated timeline for the ones with alu bottoms, if at all possible. :)

Thanks again, hopefully fulfillment will be finished soon.
We should have a more concrete one by the end of this week.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 10 January 2018, 08:39:55
Right on cue with another delay.

By the way jua said his last update it'd seem like the bottoms were finished already, as he said he was collecting them.

Thanks for the update though, yuktsi. I would like to request another updated timeline for the ones with alu bottoms, if at all possible. :)

Thanks again, hopefully fulfillment will be finished soon.
We should have a more concrete one by the end of this week.

Nice to hear this! I am super excited as the delivery get sooner! :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Wed, 10 January 2018, 08:59:33
I'm not familiar with hotlites, they are what allow switches to be hotswappable right? What defines whether or not they can be used?

the size and shape of the holes in the PCB, usually

If the hole is too large, could we apply some solder and make it fit?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 10 January 2018, 10:57:48
(Attachment Link)

Thank you guys!  :thumb:

Nice build!!!  Any issues?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 10 January 2018, 10:59:29
Right on cue with another delay.

By the way jua said his last update it'd seem like the bottoms were finished already, as he said he was collecting them.

Thanks for the update though, yuktsi. I would like to request another updated timeline for the ones with alu bottoms, if at all possible. :)

Thanks again, hopefully fulfillment will be finished soon.
We should have a more concrete one by the end of this week.

Thanks Yuktsi!  Looking forward to seeing those bottoms!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 10 January 2018, 12:53:34
(Attachment Link)

Thank you guys!  :thumb:

What caps are these?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 10 January 2018, 15:49:17
(Attachment Link)

Thank you guys!  :thumb:

What caps are these?

https://originative.co/products/originative-cyrillic
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 10 January 2018, 16:22:10
(Attachment Link)

Thank you guys!  :thumb:

What caps are these?

https://originative.co/products/originative-cyrillic

Thank you. I have asked this before but couldn't find where I had, or the previous answer. These caps look so good on the Exent!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 10 January 2018, 17:24:07
Hey GB Runners, any chance to upgrade a basic kit to a premium kit?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Wed, 10 January 2018, 17:32:14
What's the status of the premium kits? Are they all shipped, a few shipped...? I haven't seen a tracking number.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Thu, 11 January 2018, 05:55:51
What's the status of the premium kits? Are they all shipped, a few shipped...? I haven't seen a tracking number.

I would like an update on this as well. No tracking info that I can find... checked emails and paypal.

Thanks Yuktsi for the updates so far.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 11 January 2018, 09:55:38
I received a tracking number December 29th and it has never updated to anything. I just get:
Quote
Sorry, waybill (080019452301) information not found, please check waybill number or contact SF costomer service at 1 855 901 1133.

This is the Tracking number from PayPal.

 :confused:  :confused:  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 11 January 2018, 11:06:24
Mine did that too, until it was actually in the shipper's possession.  You may have a waybill number but that doesn't mean much.  Good chance the GB crew hasn't turned it over to the shipper yet.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Thu, 11 January 2018, 16:52:43
Mine did that too, until it was actually in the shipper's possession.  You may have a waybill number but that doesn't mean much.  Good chance the GB crew hasn't turned it over to the shipper yet.

I was curious about this as well.  I have a tracking number but it never updates with any information.  That was almost two weeks ago so I'm confused as to when it will be dropped off to the shipper any info on that would be swell.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 11 January 2018, 16:58:26
super excited for mine, thanks for all the hard work guys
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Thu, 11 January 2018, 18:41:16
so everyone got invoice?? as I know, all basic kit was already shipped..
I have no invoice number in paypal yet.
yuktsi. please check the meassage box(about shipping address) and also check my invoice plz.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Thu, 11 January 2018, 18:46:17
so everyone got invoice?? as I know, all basic kit was already shipped..
I have no invoice number in paypal yet.
yuktsi. please check the meassage box(about shipping address) and also check my invoice plz.
no

I don't think any prem kits have shipped
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Thu, 11 January 2018, 21:54:20
so everyone got invoice?? as I know, all basic kit was already shipped..
I have no invoice number in paypal yet.
yuktsi. please check the meassage box(about shipping address) and also check my invoice plz.
no

I don't think any prem kits have shipped

Thank you:)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 11 January 2018, 23:42:04
It's been a couple weeks. Is there a status update on replacement polycarbonate bottoms? I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 12 January 2018, 02:31:24
I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.

How exactly are they going to place an order for replacements when 0 premium kits have shipped?  Therefore they don't even know how many they will need..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 13 January 2018, 08:53:12
It's been a couple weeks. Is there a status update on replacement polycarbonate bottoms? I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.

Typically stuff like this is handled at the end of the GB.  The runners will collect all the info they need for replacements and such, then submit a replacement order with whichever manufacturer is required.

I would assume that this would be handled similarly, but it wouldn't hurt for a GB runner to confirm in the thread how replacements will be handled.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 13 January 2018, 10:12:51
It's been a couple weeks. Is there a status update on replacement polycarbonate bottoms? I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.

Typically stuff like this is handled at the end of the GB.  The runners will collect all the info they need for replacements and such, then submit a replacement order with whichever manufacturer is required.

I would assume that this would be handled similarly, but it wouldn't hurt for a GB runner to confirm in the thread how replacements will be handled.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2539795#msg2539795
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Sat, 13 January 2018, 10:28:29
It's been a couple weeks. Is there a status update on replacement polycarbonate bottoms? I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.

Typically stuff like this is handled at the end of the GB.  The runners will collect all the info they need for replacements and such, then submit a replacement order with whichever manufacturer is required.

I would assume that this would be handled similarly, but it wouldn't hurt for a GB runner to confirm in the thread how replacements will be handled.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2539795#msg2539795

 Hey look at that  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: amnesia0287 on Sat, 13 January 2018, 16:03:27
It's been a couple weeks. Is there a status update on replacement polycarbonate bottoms? I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.

Typically stuff like this is handled at the end of the GB.  The runners will collect all the info they need for replacements and such, then submit a replacement order with whichever manufacturer is required.

I would assume that this would be handled similarly, but it wouldn't hurt for a GB runner to confirm in the thread how replacements will be handled.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2539795#msg2539795

 Hey look at that  :thumb:

Just in case you didn't know, cody is not actually one of the GB runners, he's just helping them. As far as I'm aware, none of the GB runners themselves have really commented on the issue. Don't get me wrong, cody has been helpful in keeping people informed, but let's not act like that's a suitable replacement for actual direct communication from one of the people actually responsible for the GB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Sat, 13 January 2018, 19:41:59
Can we get any information for people with tracking that still shows nothing when tracked?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chuckdee on Sat, 13 January 2018, 22:33:40
It's been a couple weeks. Is there a status update on replacement polycarbonate bottoms? I hope at least that the order has been put into the manufacturer.

Typically stuff like this is handled at the end of the GB.  The runners will collect all the info they need for replacements and such, then submit a replacement order with whichever manufacturer is required.

I would assume that this would be handled similarly, but it wouldn't hurt for a GB runner to confirm in the thread how replacements will be handled.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2539795#msg2539795

 Hey look at that  :thumb:

Just in case you didn't know, cody is not actually one of the GB runners, he's just helping them. As far as I'm aware, none of the GB runners themselves have really commented on the issue. Don't get me wrong, cody has been helpful in keeping people informed, but let's not act like that's a suitable replacement for actual direct communication from one of the people actually responsible for the GB.

Apparently they are busy, and he volunteered to take that on for them.  Which is the reason that he said when he can get back and get in touch with them, there will be more communication.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Sat, 13 January 2018, 23:13:35
As long as somebody's communicating, and the information is accurate, I couldn't give a **** who's doing the actual posting.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 14 January 2018, 14:41:26
Everybody needs to calm down. Picking fights with each other will not solve anything. I understand the frustration you all must have, but until contact is made with the runners, flinging **** at each other solves nothing.

I am leaving the thread open for now to allow the runners to hopefully post updates soon. If this behavior continues then it will be locked and there will be even less opportunities for updates.

Thank you and happy new year.

Can we get this locked already? Does this forum not have the ability to make posts that only a single user can post to? Would be nice if juahenza was the only user who could post.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 14 January 2018, 14:44:10
Everybody needs to calm down. Picking fights with each other will not solve anything. I understand the frustration you all must have, but until contact is made with the runners, flinging **** at each other solves nothing.

I am leaving the thread open for now to allow the runners to hopefully post updates soon. If this behavior continues then it will be locked and there will be even less opportunities for updates.

Thank you and happy new year.

Can we get this locked already? Does this forum not have the ability to make posts that only a single user can post to? Would be nice if juahenza was the only user who could post.

Technically the OP can lock the thread and then unlock to add their own posts, to re-lock after.  If a moderator locks a thread, the OP can't unlock it.  We generally discourage the OP from locking an ongoing GB thread, however, as it's still useful and fair for members to be able to post about issues.  But in regards to any extraneous drama, we're dealing with it on a case-by-case basis.

edit: thread cleaned up a little bit.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 15 January 2018, 16:30:40
Any news on the bottoms?  I didn't see any posted on the main page.  Thank guys!   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 15 January 2018, 16:59:46
Any news on the bottoms?  I didn't see any posted on the main page.  Thank guys!   :thumb:

I finally received an answer regarding my remaing shipping for the EXENT from Juahenza earlier today and it told me it would invoice me when before shipping, and add  a « Which should be soon » ! So since I have an alu bottom, I think it should be soon :D !
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Mon, 15 January 2018, 17:34:26
Any news on the bottoms?  I didn't see any posted on the main page.  Thank guys!   :thumb:

I finally received an answer regarding my remaing shipping for the EXENT from Juahenza earlier today and it told me it would invoice me when before shipping, and add  a « Which should be soon » ! So since I have an alu bottom, I think it should be soon :D !

Received an answer from him too. He said he should have an update on the bottom this week.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 15 January 2018, 17:57:23
Any news on the bottoms?  I didn't see any posted on the main page.  Thank guys!   :thumb:

I finally received an answer regarding my remaing shipping for the EXENT from Juahenza earlier today and it told me it would invoice me when before shipping, and add  a « Which should be soon » ! So since I have an alu bottom, I think it should be soon :D !

Received an answer from him too. He said he should have an update on the bottom this week.

Great to hear.  I'll hang tight.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Wed, 17 January 2018, 05:29:20
Well, I finally picked up my Exent yesterday and I bring you some pics (sorry, no DSLR) and a bit of an insight on it.

I can confirm there is no bill or receipt of any sort attached to the box and that is declared as a gift as juahenza told me in a PM. I only had to pay for managing fees (in Spain, but YMMV).


(https://i.imgur.com/rv4Ss91.jpg)


Bad things first:

The bottom was awfully cracked

(https://i.imgur.com/yNTjGtv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UQqDhlH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IRee4cu.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kCzlgMF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/R3dWgqQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/C8ykCnf.jpg)


As you can see in the pics, the cracks are pretty notorious, specially the middle one, which goes from the top edge of the piece down to the middle of it. That means that you can push one side and pull the other and easily break the piece in two.
The cracks on the sides are dangerous too, since they form a triangle and I think I could pull off the piece if I tried.
Moreover, I noticed a new thing about it (or at least I haven't read anything here about this). It seems that the junction between the PC bottom and the feet is not completely flat, and tightening and un-tightening the middle screw made the PC bend a significant bit. It was not much, but that's definitely not good because it creates a point of strain and it sure doesn't help keep the PC bottom uncracked.
I took some pics and recorded a little video where you can clearly see the crack opening and closing as I turn the screwdriver to tight or loosen the screw.

Loose:
(https://i.imgur.com/UOlOQdd.jpg)

Tight:
(https://i.imgur.com/DqhN5fy.jpg)

Can you spot the difference?
Here's the video:
(I don't know why, but the video turns upside down when I upload it, I can see it fine in my computer and I also rotated it before uploading, but it stays upside down  :( :( )



This is an issue I'd like the GB runners to see, since I can't properly see if the feet are not straight in the surface or if it's the PC bottom.


Besides that, the polycarbonate feels very sturdy, has a nice finish, is detailed enough and doesn't have very notorious milling traces (some minor traces on the inside surface).

I can say I quite like it, but being heavily cracked I feel disappointed.


The PCB was not fully working
As we all know now, not all the PCB's will arrive fully working and will need to have a bit of work done on them.
Knowing that, I plugged mine in and opened up bootmapper client to try the LED's.
You can see the result below.

(https://i.imgur.com/bD4U4hN.jpg)

There are some of them not working at all (pressumably just a reflowing issue) and one of them where the green doesn't light up anything at all. I'm personally a bit worried about this one because if it wasn't soldered properly, the next ones would fail, but I'm hoping it will work when I reflow it.
After that, I flashed the same layout I have in my b.face, just to try the switch pads manually (with metallic pliers) and opened EK switch hitter.
Then I realised there are pads that are not working at all. I do not recall anyone in the thread having this problem and frankly I still hope I did something wrong when checking them, but Switch Hitter can detect triggers even when they have no key assigned, and some of the pads weren't registering any trigger at all.
I will make further checks, but today I'm going away for a few days and it will have to wait.


Not bad but neither good things:

The packaging
Although the keyboard itself was very well protected with big, sturdy and thick foam pads covering the entire inside of the box, it wasn't secured in place. That wouldn't be a problem if all pieces where tight and metallic, but since the PCB comes inside and loose, and there's a polycarbonate piece, that was not a good idea.
Before opening the box, I could hear and feel the keyboard tumbling around inside. I think anyone here know that when you ship an item inside a box, you have to make sure it won't move inside the box, and as I said, you could make an exception if it's only one piece (or it behaves like one), but there cannot be loose things inside the box, because they will get damaged.
When I opened the box and saw how the PCB moved inside the case, I was surprised the USB was still in it's place. GB runners should at least tape the PCB to the inside, or better than that, add a thin layer of foam inside the keyboard so the PCB doesn't rattle inside.
I suspect that the keyboard being loose inside the box also contributes to the PC cracking, since the piece is "a bit" flexible and the feet puts a point of pressure and a lot of weight on it, possibly making it crack when the keyboard goes up and down inside the box.
I wouldn't rate this as bad since the idea is not bad at all and the foam was a more than enough protection for the board, but shipping the keyboard loose inside and the PCB loose inside of it was not a good idea because it's not full metal. I doubt anyone of the premium kits will have this problem.


The feet
I found a little milling defect in the feet. You can see in the pic below there's a bit of residue of a trace. I consider it a minor issue since is very small and in a piece you won't be seeing unless you specifically look for it. Also, I could file it down with care and not screw up the surface finish. It bothers me since someone could consider this as a B-stock, but oh well.

(https://i.imgur.com/tc1TaIH.jpg)


The good things:


The anodising

(https://i.imgur.com/3ro6r1H.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kS4fgD9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CpVwPdE.jpg)


The anodising is superb. I mean, this is the first anodised aluminium I own, but I compared it to a MacBook, iPhone and Xiaomi Mi note and this keeb anodising is on par with the one on the MacBook and almost as smooth as the one on the iPhone. The colour itself is a bit lighter than I'd wanted it to be, but blue is a difficult colour to anodise. (Although the pics are taken with a Nexus 5X, I think the colour is pretty accurate, maybe a tad lighter in the spots with more light reflecting).
I found a little smudge on a side, but it was just some dirt or glue and it went off easily. I couldn't find any defect at all, no discolouration or anything, it's just perfect and evenly smooth. Top notch work in my opinion.


Conclussion/Thoughts
The keyboard itself is awesome and I feel it's important I say this to cheer up people around here. I feel disappointed about the cracked bottom and the PCB not properly working. I know I will have to wait months for a new bottom, but I do feel happy about having this board. It weights a ton, it's very sturdy, awesome looking and feeling. I'm eager to make a build out of it.

You can see here the complete gallery:
https://imgur.com/a/9RkII (https://imgur.com/a/9RkII)

As a side note to this improvised review, I think I received one screw for the plate less than necessary, since there are 5 holes and I received 4 screws, making the plate flex a lot in the middle bottom, but can't recall if this was said before in the thread (I do remember something about screws). I also didn't receive stabilizers, but I have yet to confirm if I ordered them (I think I did, but can't find the invoice now).

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 17 January 2018, 08:07:24
Snip
Finally something positive, thanks for the review. With feets coming unscrewed and PCB's fixed, only issues left will be missing stabs, loose PCB in the box and replacement bottoms. Let's hope GB runners will take a look. The top piece looks amazing as always.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Wed, 17 January 2018, 09:34:09
Finally something positive, thanks for the review. With feets coming unscrewed and PCB's fixed, only issues left will be missing stabs, loose PCB in the box and replacement bottoms. Let's hope GB runners will take a look. The top piece looks amazing as always.

I agree with you that leaving the feet unscrewed and the PCB's fixed should solve those problems, but still they need to tape everything together because the feet and the keeb will be slamming together, and that would produce far worse results than we've seen. I hope they kept that in mind when packing the next batch.

Thanks for the appreciation. I wanted to give some light, confirm some issues and show everyone what they will be getting as best as I could, while giving an overall positive message. Although the runners do have a lot of things to improve.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 17 January 2018, 10:03:19
Thanks for the appreciation. I wanted to give some light, confirm some issues and show everyone what they will be getting as best as I could, while giving an overall positive message. Although the runners do have a lot of things to improve.

I also want to extend my gratitude for the review - the biggest take away for me however has to be the fact you didn't get taxed; I'm glad the gift declaration worked for you and I'm hoping it works for me too, our customs tend to not be the most observant people out there. Going to save me a lot of money and most of all, a lot of trouble and headaches.

Beautiful board, too, the finish really is delightful.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 17 January 2018, 11:13:12
Goddamn that is some cracking.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 17 January 2018, 12:07:45
Obviously there needed to be some washers or a metal support strap on the other side of the polycarb to distribute stress across a wider surface area.  That foot is heavy and it's held to the keyboard by 5 screws.  Design flaw.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 17 January 2018, 13:04:13
I'm blown away by how beautiful that blue is... I'm very excited to see more pics as more and more people get theirs together.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 17 January 2018, 14:12:43
Thanks for the review Marvellion!   :thumb:

I was under the impression that PCBs were being quality checked?  My main concern is having to reflow SMD components.  That’s not really in my soldering abilities and was expecting a working PCB.

Would love some transparency/communication from the GB leaders and design team and how the reviewed issues will be handled.

Thanks All!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 17 January 2018, 17:27:09
Thanks for the review Marvellion!   :thumb:

I was under the impression that PCBs were being quality checked?  My main concern is having to reflow SMD components.  That’s not really in my soldering abilities and was expecting a working PCB.

Would love some transparency/communication from the GB leaders and design team and how the reviewed issues will be handled.

Thanks All!

Oh the review is from d.caminero, I should've snipped earlier sorry about that. Reflowing is really easy you just heat up the solder and poke it a little bit. Also I think d.caminero's PCB was sent before GB runners started checkng them ( or I hope so).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 17 January 2018, 17:48:01
Thanks for the review Marvellion!   :thumb:

I was under the impression that PCBs were being quality checked?  My main concern is having to reflow SMD components.  That’s not really in my soldering abilities and was expecting a working PCB.

Would love some transparency/communication from the GB leaders and design team and how the reviewed issues will be handled.

Thanks All!


Oh the review is from d.caminero, I should've snipped earlier sorry about that. Reflowing is really easy you just heat up the solder and poke it a little bit. Also I think d.caminero's PCB was sent before GB runners started checkng them ( or I hope so).

Whoops.  Was on mobile!  Thanks d.caminero!!!   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 17 January 2018, 19:26:50
I would like to ask for some sort of spreadsheet with everyone's orders on it and the current status of each. According to the update Jan 2nd, Premium kits have started shipping out and it'd be nice to have an idea of when to expect it, since I'm going to be away visiting family for about 2 weeks in February, and the postal service here only keeps parcels for 12 days before returning them back to sender.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Krytone on Wed, 17 January 2018, 20:51:22

The PCB was not fully working
As we all know now, not all the PCB's will arrive fully working and will need to have a bit of work done on them.
Knowing that, I plugged mine in and opened up bootmapper client to try the LED's.
You can see the result below.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bD4U4hN.jpg)

Im not sure if you checked already but just would like to share cause it happened to me that they default to 12 leds only. You need to change to 24 leds in the bootmapper to light all the smd. Lets just hope that would fix your issue about the bottom smd.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Wed, 17 January 2018, 22:39:59
I'm blown away by how beautiful that blue is... I'm very excited to see more pics as more and more people get theirs together.

Kind of hard to find keycap match though. Seems the blue is the same blue with M65-A. Can't think anything else other than gmk hydro
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 17 January 2018, 23:02:56
I'm blown away by how beautiful that blue is... I'm very excited to see more pics as more and more people get theirs together.

Kind of hard to find keycap match though. Seems the blue is the same blue with M65-A. Can't think anything else other than gmk hydro

SA Dasher/Dancer. Duh.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Krytone on Thu, 18 January 2018, 00:11:05
I'm blown away by how beautiful that blue is... I'm very excited to see more pics as more and more people get theirs together.

Kind of hard to find keycap match though. Seems the blue is the same blue with M65-A. Can't think anything else other than gmk hydro
GMK Aero
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 18 January 2018, 04:26:16
I would like to ask for some sort of spreadsheet with everyone's orders on it and the current status of each. According to the update Jan 2nd, Premium kits have started shipping out and it'd be nice to have an idea of when to expect it, since I'm going to be away visiting family for about 2 weeks in February, and the postal service here only keeps parcels for 12 days before returning them back to sender.

+1 for this. Cause jua is still MIA after providing a timeline, then missing said timeline. We've been through this for quite a while now, tbh.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marutks on Thu, 18 January 2018, 06:33:10
Can't think anything else other than gmk hydro

Put Nautilus keycaps on your Exent!!!    :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Thu, 18 January 2018, 08:54:03

Thanks for the appreciation. I wanted to give some light, confirm some issues and show everyone what they will be getting as best as I could, while giving an overall positive message. Although the runners do have a lot of things to improve.

I also want to extend my gratitude for the review - the biggest take away for me however has to be the fact you didn't get taxed; I'm glad the gift declaration worked for you and I'm hoping it works for me too, our customs tend to not be the most observant people out there. Going to save me a lot of money and most of all, a lot of trouble and headaches.

Beautiful board, too, the finish really is delightful.

If your customs are not very observant, you should be fine as well. There was not a single document with a price inside or outside the box.


The PCB was not fully working
As we all know now, not all the PCB's will arrive fully working and will need to have a bit of work done on them.
Knowing that, I plugged mine in and opened up bootmapper client to try the LED's.
You can see the result below.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bD4U4hN.jpg)

Im not sure if you checked already but just would like to share cause it happened to me that they default to 12 leds only. You need to change to 24 leds in the bootmapper to light all the smd. Lets just hope that would fix your issue about the bottom smd.

I did remember that yesterday and will going to try it when I get back home. If that's the case I'll try to edit the review just to be clear. Thanks for the heads up!

Obviously there needed to be some washers or a metal support strap on the other side of the polycarb to distribute stress across a wider surface area.  That foot is heavy and it's held to the keyboard by 5 screws.  Design flaw.

That's a good idea and something I wish they'd thought of. Although to be fair, the keyboard shouldn't be moving too much.

Goddamn that is some cracking.

Unfortunately it is :( I hope it won't break-in the meantime we get a replacement, but that middle crack is large.

Thanks for the review Marvellion!   :thumb:

I was under the impression that PCBs were being quality checked?  My main concern is having to reflow SMD components.  That’s not really in my soldering abilities and was expecting a working PCB.

Would love some transparency/communication from the GB leaders and design team and how the reviewed issues will be handled.

Thanks All!


Oh the review is from d.caminero, I should've snipped earlier sorry about that. Reflowing is really easy you just heat up the solder and poke it a little bit. Also I think d.caminero's PCB was sent before GB runners started checkng them ( or I hope so).

Whoops.  Was on mobile!  Thanks d.caminero!!!   :thumb:
You are very much welcome  :thumb:

Thanks for the review Marvellion!   :thumb:

I was under the impression that PCBs were being quality checked?  My main concern is having to reflow SMD components.  That’s not really in my soldering abilities and was expecting a working PCB.

Would love some transparency/communication from the GB leaders and design team and how the reviewed issues will be handled.

Thanks All!

Oh the review is from d.caminero, I should've snipped earlier sorry about that. Reflowing is really easy you just heat up the solder and poke it a little bit. Also I think d.caminero's PCB was sent before GB runners started checkng them ( or I hope so).

They said they QC'd all the Pcb's upon arrival, so mine is technically QC'd as well. I have to say that I still have to try changing the LEDs settings to light up all of them. If they all work, then it's just one of them nor properly working.

Can't think anything else other than gmk hydro

Put Nautilus keycaps on your Exent!!!    :thumb:

That's exactly my plan. What I still don't know is which switch to use
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 18 January 2018, 13:48:51
I would like to ask for some sort of spreadsheet with everyone's orders on it and the current status of each. According to the update Jan 2nd, Premium kits have started shipping out and it'd be nice to have an idea of when to expect it, since I'm going to be away visiting family for about 2 weeks in February, and the postal service here only keeps parcels for 12 days before returning them back to sender.

They hold stuff for 18 days mate, 21 if there is a customs fee to pay. Had the same worry when I went on holiday last year  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Thu, 18 January 2018, 15:45:34
So what does it look like when you get the updated notification for shipping? Mine was one of the premium kits, so I guess it should be moving soooonish?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 19 January 2018, 12:36:11
I would like to ask for some sort of spreadsheet with everyone's orders on it and the current status of each. According to the update Jan 2nd, Premium kits have started shipping out and it'd be nice to have an idea of when to expect it, since I'm going to be away visiting family for about 2 weeks in February, and the postal service here only keeps parcels for 12 days before returning them back to sender.

They hold stuff for 18 days mate, 21 if there is a customs fee to pay. Had the same worry when I went on holiday last year  :thumb:

You mean last year when these kits were initially scheduled to ship out?  :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: meirish on Fri, 19 January 2018, 13:04:25
So what does it look like when you get the updated notification for shipping? Mine was one of the premium kits, so I guess it should be moving soooonish?

I got an email from PayPal that said the invoice had been updated. It had a tracking number to use on sf-express.com
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Fri, 19 January 2018, 14:07:05
I would like to ask for some sort of spreadsheet with everyone's orders on it and the current status of each. According to the update Jan 2nd, Premium kits have started shipping out and it'd be nice to have an idea of when to expect it, since I'm going to be away visiting family for about 2 weeks in February, and the postal service here only keeps parcels for 12 days before returning them back to sender.

They hold stuff for 18 days mate, 21 if there is a customs fee to pay. Had the same worry when I went on holiday last year  :thumb:

You mean last year when these kits were initially scheduled to ship out?  :(

Haha actually I think it was my M65, that I just received this week funnily enough. Long delays don't really bother me anymore, especially if the people involved are as well known and trustworthy as some of the people running this. I think waiting for this, the M65 and the Mira has made me insanely patient haha. And it looks like they are all arriving within a few weeks of each other! I have full confidence they will get it done as soon as they can =]
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Fri, 19 January 2018, 16:29:27
I have had a tracking code for weeks, but whenever I try and track the package, it comes up not in their database.  Does anyone have any suggestions for this?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Fri, 19 January 2018, 16:32:32
I have had a tracking code for weeks, but whenever I try and track the package, it comes up not in their database.  Does anyone have any suggestions for this?

Is the code the right length/format?

Best you could hope for is 1) random delivery, or 2) juahenza caring.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: brizzzle on Fri, 19 January 2018, 18:56:18
I have had a tracking code for weeks, but whenever I try and track the package, it comes up not in their database.  Does anyone have any suggestions for this?

Just wait. I was in the same situation, had tracking since mid Dec and today it was just registered into the sf express system and started moving.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Fri, 19 January 2018, 19:02:51
Have alu bottom orders started shipping? I recall there was a post about them being picked up a few weeks back.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Fri, 19 January 2018, 19:08:03
Have alu bottom orders started shipping? I recall there was a post about them being picked up a few weeks back.

They weren't complete at the time. No update if they're done yet as of now.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 19 January 2018, 19:36:59
Have alu bottom orders started shipping? I recall there was a post about them being picked up a few weeks back.

Premium kits with polycarb bottoms have not yet started shipping so I'd imagine yours haven't either seeing as alu bottoms were further down the queue. Would be nice to get an update seeing as premiums were meant to start shipping on the week of the 8th and still haven't (far as I know).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Fri, 19 January 2018, 21:58:55
I have had a tracking code for weeks, but whenever I try and track the package, it comes up not in their database.  Does anyone have any suggestions for this?

Is the code the right length/format?

Best you could hope for is 1) random delivery, or 2) juahenza caring.

Yeah its the right length.  It always says the same thing though.  Just dont want to miss it being stuck somewhere because of something I need to do
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Fri, 19 January 2018, 22:06:15
I have had a tracking code for weeks, but whenever I try and track the package, it comes up not in their database.  Does anyone have any suggestions for this?

Is the code the right length/format?

Best you could hope for is 1) random delivery, or 2) juahenza caring.

Yeah its the right length.  It always says the same thing though.  Just dont want to miss it being stuck somewhere because of something I need to do

Which site do you put the tracking number into? There are some that do a universal search, could be helpful.

I know with a recent package I sent out, they weren't in for the delivery and had to go to a local store and collect it (Germany though), so might be worth calling around if you're familiar with where they'd go.

If it flat out doesn't exist, then you're SOL until option #2.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Panzerhawx on Sat, 20 January 2018, 05:58:04
I apologise for asking such a trivial question, but where can we check our orders again? Don't think I ever got a shipping notification for mine.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 20 January 2018, 05:59:11
I apologise for asking such a trivial question, but where can we check our orders again? Don't think I ever got a shipping notification for mine.

Your paypal invoice should have your order details.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 20 January 2018, 10:34:25
Right on cue with another delay.

By the way jua said his last update it'd seem like the bottoms were finished already, as he said he was collecting them.

Thanks for the update though, yuktsi. I would like to request another updated timeline for the ones with alu bottoms, if at all possible. :)

Thanks again, hopefully fulfillment will be finished soon.
We should have a more concrete one by the end of this week.

It's been a week and a half; any updates for us? And how are the premium kits coming along? Haven't heard any news about them in a while.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sat, 20 January 2018, 10:49:28
It's been a week and a half; any updates for us? And how are the premium kits coming along? Haven't heard any news about them in a while.

And the cycle continues  :))

I'll probably just wait, its either they're shipping out more premium kits, and/or the anodizing still isn't done/picked up
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Sat, 20 January 2018, 16:58:36
Hey, any information on firmware? Sorry but I haven't really been able to find any guides or anything, except for this: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 Is that a good guide to follow? Wasn't sure since it doesn't say anything about the EXENT.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 20 January 2018, 17:15:16
Hey, any information on firmware? Sorry but I haven't really been able to find any guides or anything, except for this: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 Is that a good guide to follow? Wasn't sure since it doesn't say anything about the EXENT.

Aside from that all I've seen is this:  https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Sat, 20 January 2018, 17:25:22
Hey, any information on firmware? Sorry but I haven't really been able to find any guides or anything, except for this: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183 Is that a good guide to follow? Wasn't sure since it doesn't say anything about the EXENT.

Aside from that all I've seen is this:  https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper)

Thanks, appreciate it! I should have also asked, do you or anyone know the default combination to turn leds on? There is no indicator that I can see on the PCB of which is positive or negative so I want to test one before I put them all in
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Sun, 21 January 2018, 07:02:53
Juahenza, would you mind responding to my PM or email? Many thanks!


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 21 January 2018, 11:35:29
Juahenza, would you mind responding to my PM or email? Many thanks!

You might have better luck PM'ing Yuktsi. I don't think Juahenza checks geekhack very often.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Sun, 21 January 2018, 21:47:13
Juahenza, would you mind responding to my PM or email? Many thanks!

You might have better luck PM'ing Yuktsi. I don't think Juahenza checks geekhack very often.

Thanks! Will try him as well, although didn't get a reply from him last time. =/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Mon, 22 January 2018, 00:37:38
Juahenza, would you mind responding to my PM or email? Many thanks!


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Same. Requested address change some time ago. No reply yet.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 22 January 2018, 18:56:10
Been almost two weeks. Any updates?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 23 January 2018, 03:32:32
Update would be really nice.. I also realized, we never saw the alu bottom I think? Even before anodizing or anything. This would be very very very nice to have some pic of the progress made on thoses alu bottom !

Thanks
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 23 January 2018, 09:14:59
Update would be really nice.. I also realized, we never saw the alu bottom I think? Even before anodizing or anything. This would be very very very nice to have some pic of the progress made on thoses alu bottom !

Thanks

It's not much, but here's a small photo of the alu bottoms before anodizing that Yuktsi posted on November 22.

(https://i.imgur.com/GLWE7i5m.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Tue, 23 January 2018, 11:37:12
Wish there were an opportunity to be able to purchase an aluminum bottom for people who have cracks on the PC bottom. My bottom started to get worse.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Tue, 23 January 2018, 13:08:46
Wish there were an opportunity to be able to purchase an aluminum bottom for people who have cracks on the PC bottom. My bottom started to get worse.

++
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 23 January 2018, 14:23:02
If my tracking number worked, or someone could tell me when it'll actually work so I stop checking it all the time that'd be great.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gettys on Tue, 23 January 2018, 17:10:09
If my tracking number worked, or someone could tell me when it'll actually work so I stop checking it all the time that'd be great.

Mine took about 2 weeks before it appeared on the sf
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Troif on Tue, 23 January 2018, 17:24:03
Tracking now works! Near date for the KB to arrive home!


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Tue, 23 January 2018, 17:24:56
If my tracking number worked, or someone could tell me when it'll actually work so I stop checking it all the time that'd be great.

Mine took about 2 weeks before it appeared on the sf
Got my "tracking" number December 29th

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Tue, 23 January 2018, 22:19:32
Can't think anything else other than gmk hydro

Put Nautilus keycaps on your Exent!!!    :thumb:

Tried with Nautilus on my M65, not a good match unfortunately:(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 23 January 2018, 22:21:43
Wish there were an opportunity to be able to purchase an aluminum bottom for people who have cracks on the PC bottom. My bottom started to get worse.

Yeah honestly I'd probably buy one. I sorta regret the polycarbonate.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 24 January 2018, 01:10:52
Wish there were an opportunity to be able to purchase an aluminum bottom for people who have cracks on the PC bottom. My bottom started to get worse.

Yeah honestly I'd probably buy one. I sorta regret the polycarbonate.

Once you get it replaced will you like it? I mean, if it weren't damaged would you like it more than the alu?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: vewy_nice on Wed, 24 January 2018, 08:26:51
Oh, I... Yeah I guess this is closed, huh?

I totally missed all the years in the dates (like February 2016)

I figured since I could submit a form it was still open! 
Will there be extras? It looks like there's been a few bumps in the road...

EDIT: Anyone not want theirs? Got an extra? Etc. Etc.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 24 January 2018, 12:07:20
Wish there were an opportunity to be able to purchase an aluminum bottom for people who have cracks on the PC bottom. My bottom started to get worse.

Yeah honestly I'd probably buy one. I sorta regret the polycarbonate.

Once you get it replaced will you like it? I mean, if it weren't damaged would you like it more than the alu?

That's the thing is I think I'd prefer aluminum over polycarbonate, damaged or not. I'd like to see what options the GB leadership would be willing to make available, but I'd be able to live with just the polycarb being replaced so I can finally forget about this disaster of a GB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 24 January 2018, 12:17:58
Happy 1 Year Anniversary everyone!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 24 January 2018, 15:46:52
Happy 1 Year Anniversary everyone!

(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/5d/24/af/5d24af11327ed31ad903365801f9f601--garden-birthday-bat-man.jpg)

Oh man.  It's true.

On another note, it looks like one of us got an EXENT without issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7soami/exent_came_in_without_any_issue_feeling_so/ .

Looks good!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 24 January 2018, 15:51:28
Happy 1 Year Anniversary everyone!

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Oh man.  It's true.

On another note, it looks like one of us got an EXENT without issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7soami/exent_came_in_without_any_issue_feeling_so/ .

Looks good!


Damn. This exent look so sick... I want mine so badly, I hope it alu bottom ship sooooooon!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 24 January 2018, 16:28:07
Happy 1 Year Anniversary everyone!

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Oh man.  It's true.

On another note, it looks like one of us got an EXENT without issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7soami/exent_came_in_without_any_issue_feeling_so/ .

Looks good!


Damn. This exent look so sick... I want mine so badly, I hope it alu bottom ship sooooooon!

Right there with you, man.   I've waited 8 months past the expected delivery, though...  so what's another few weeks? 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 24 January 2018, 16:53:30
That's the thing is I think I'd prefer aluminum over polycarbonate, damaged or not. I'd like to see what options the GB leadership would be willing to make available, but I'd be able to live with just the polycarb being replaced so I can finally forget about this disaster of a GB.

It definitely would be cool if they let you swap out the base. And I agree, the alu looks better than I thought, or maybe the poly just didn't quite meet my expectations.

Hopefully we'll all have some answers soon either way...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Thu, 25 January 2018, 11:14:10
Can't wait to get mine!  :cool: Has anyone else with Grey Premium received tracking yet? I haven't and was just wondering.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Thu, 25 January 2018, 14:26:15
Can't wait to get mine!  :cool: Has anyone else with Grey Premium received tracking yet? I haven't and was just wondering.

Nope I ordered the same and I haven’t yet either.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 25 January 2018, 22:27:48
Happy 1 Year Anniversary everyone!

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Oh man.  It's true.

On another note, it looks like one of us got an EXENT without issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7soami/exent_came_in_without_any_issue_feeling_so/ .

Looks good!
Is it a year already. Btw, all units that went out after the first 20+ units won’t have issues with pcb or bottom case.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Thu, 25 January 2018, 23:02:01
I finally got mine in today! & I cautiously opened the box hoping for a non-cracked poly-carb. Thankfully mine was immaculate. Everything was shipped sandwiched together, but not screwed, except the plate. Package foam was very tight though, which is great to see.

My only issue was the PCB; last 4 LEDs weren't working, & figured it was the 'reflow' issue.  I'm no soldering expert, but I was able to do it after a few attempts and actually felt a little click of the pin reflowing when I finally got it. Beginners shouldn't be worried.

now I'm just waiting to get stabilizers, (I guess I didn't order any?)

*edit: I got the brass plate. It's a matte powder finish, not mirror - in case anyone was wondering. Anodizing on both is rather gorgeous.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Thu, 25 January 2018, 23:19:02
I finally got mine in today! & I cautiously opened the box hoping for a non-cracked poly-carb. Thankfully mine was immaculate. Everything was shipped sandwiched together, but not screwed, except the plate. Package foam was very tight though, which is great to see.

My only issue was the PCB; last 4 LEDs weren't working, & figured it was the 'reflow' issue.  I'm no soldering expert, but I was able to do it after a few attempts and actually felt a little click of the pin reflowing when I finally got it. Beginners shouldn't be worried.

now I'm just waiting to get stabilizers, (I guess I didn't order any?)

*edit: I got the brass plate. It's a matte powder finish, not mirror - in case anyone was wondering. Anodizing on both is rather gorgeous.

(Attachment Link)
congrats! looks amazing. can't wait till i get my replacement bottom. just want it to be built already.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 26 January 2018, 06:39:18
Is it a year already. Btw, all units that went out after the first 20+ units won’t have issues with pcb or bottom case.


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Nice. Any updates on the aluminum bottoms and progress on premium kits?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Fri, 26 January 2018, 08:34:29
...
Is it a year already. Btw, all units that went out after the first 20+ units won’t have issues with pcb or bottom case.

Hey yuktsi, can we have an update regarding the alu bottom? Anodization finished? ready to ship? Thanks  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 26 January 2018, 10:46:20
I finally got mine in today! & I cautiously opened the box hoping for a non-cracked poly-carb. Thankfully mine was immaculate. Everything was shipped sandwiched together, but not screwed, except the plate. Package foam was very tight though, which is great to see.

My only issue was the PCB; last 4 LEDs weren't working, & figured it was the 'reflow' issue.  I'm no soldering expert, but I was able to do it after a few attempts and actually felt a little click of the pin reflowing when I finally got it. Beginners shouldn't be worried.

now I'm just waiting to get stabilizers, (I guess I didn't order any?)

*edit: I got the brass plate. It's a matte powder finish, not mirror - in case anyone was wondering. Anodizing on both is rather gorgeous.

(Attachment Link)

Looks sick.  My hopes are back!  Glad to hear that the EXENTs that are shipping out now are not having issues.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: meirish on Fri, 26 January 2018, 21:06:36
Got mine today! It will still be a bit before I can get things put together, but I opened it up and plugged things in to check the LEDs.

Here's a gallery showing the new packaging (it's great) and I also test-fit some Panda switches (that have holtites on them) into the board. Looks like they're perfect!

https://cloudup.com/ctSBo2dwalh

I didn't have stabs (I ordered 2 sets), but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ pretty happy with how the board looks (even before I have put it together) and happy to have it here.

Thanks to the GB runners for slogging through all of the hard work it was to get this out!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Fri, 26 January 2018, 21:17:43
Aaaaaaah that looks so good! Very much looking forward to getting mine :D
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 26 January 2018, 21:29:07
More missing stabilizers. Kinda crazy how widespread that problem is. I hope everyone eventual gets the stabilizers they ordered or a partial refund. I can see them being ignored and forgotten about with the bigger issues of the polycarbonates and PCBs.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 26 January 2018, 22:21:24
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Black bottoms done. Silver bottoms were still in process the time when I was there.

Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 26 January 2018, 22:22:07
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Black bottoms done. Silver bottoms were still in process the time when I was there.

Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.


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Wow, looks great
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Sat, 27 January 2018, 00:35:46
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Black bottoms done. Silver bottoms were still in process the time when I was there.

Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.


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Thank you yuktsi, that's quite awesome looking.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 27 January 2018, 01:52:10
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Black bottoms done. Silver bottoms were still in process the time when I was there.

Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.

Look super nice! So the black bottom will ship first? I have black alu bottom, I am getting super excited :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Sat, 27 January 2018, 04:44:16
black bottom looks so beautiful. I want to marry with exent black bottom!!
yuktsi. please check my pm. I'm worried that you will ship my exent to wrong address..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sat, 27 January 2018, 07:53:17
Great anodizing as usual.
Gotta admit that looks badass!

Thanks for the meaningful update, hopefully premium kits will ship out soon™
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 27 January 2018, 08:33:08
black bottom looks so beautiful. I want to marry with exent black bottom!!
yuktsi. please check my pm. I'm worried that you will ship my exent to wrong address..
Can you send me another PM? Thanks
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 27 January 2018, 08:37:44
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Black bottoms done. Silver bottoms were still in process the time when I was there.

Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.

Any ETA on the arrival of the GMK set to you guys so that you can start sending them off?

That aluminium bottom looks incredibly by the way. Wow.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Sun, 28 January 2018, 19:06:03

Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.


What premium kit are you waiting on to arrive? Does this mean you're waiting on the key cap sets?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Troif on Mon, 29 January 2018, 14:27:24
Is there any extras on black bottoms?


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Mon, 29 January 2018, 18:46:40
Probably a silly question but did they already put in the order for the premium kit GMK caps?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 29 January 2018, 18:52:04
Probably a silly question but did they already put in the order for the premium kit GMK caps?

They've been finished and are out there somewhere, I thought they were meant to be with Juahenza and the boys already for a while now (I think this was either said or hinted at like 2 months ago) but according to Yuktsi's latest post it seems they're not, which probably means they're either still with Sherry (who put in the order and received it) or on the way to them from him.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 29 January 2018, 18:53:11
Probably a silly question but did they already put in the order for the premium kit GMK caps?

They're already made. Sherry posted a picture on his instagram a few months ago.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Mon, 29 January 2018, 18:54:43
Phew! :thumb: Thanks guys!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Mon, 29 January 2018, 18:56:22
Probably a silly question but did they already put in the order for the premium kit GMK caps?

They're already made. Sherry posted a picture on his instagram a few months ago.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/
linky
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Mon, 29 January 2018, 18:59:39
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/
linky
For some reason at the time I thought it was a "sample set" for the GB runners to approve. Didn't realize they already produced all the caps. Thanks again!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 29 January 2018, 20:43:51
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.

Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?
Yeah.  :cool:

Liar. For the record, Sherry told us months ago that Juahenza's post was false. Everyone just dropped it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Mon, 29 January 2018, 21:18:32
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.

Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?
Yeah.  :cool:

Liar. For the record, Sherry told us months ago that Juahenza's post was false. Everyone just dropped it.
We are just protecting the interest of our partner. I’m not sure what Sherry told you, we are still waiting for the shipment from him.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 29 January 2018, 21:41:45
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.

Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?
Yeah.  :cool:

Liar. For the record, Sherry told us months ago that Juahenza's post was false. Everyone just dropped it.
We are just protecting the interest of our partner. I’m not sure what Sherry told you, we are still waiting for the shipment from him.


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Here's what he said, 3 months ago...

Hello Terry,

It's definitely hard for me to contact the partners since we work on different schedules (them being in SEA). Nonetheless we did get recent updates, the sets are ready to ship. They are also expecting me to send them the GMK sets so they can ship the premium kits within Asia. I don't have any guaranteed dates yet though.

GMK has had GBs fulfill faster than this.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 29 January 2018, 22:14:26
Here's what he said, 3 months ago...

Hello Terry,

It's definitely hard for me to contact the partners since we work on different schedules (them being in SEA). Nonetheless we did get recent updates, the sets are ready to ship. They are also expecting me to send them the GMK sets so they can ship the premium kits within Asia. I don't have any guaranteed dates yet though.

GMK has had GBs fulfill faster than this.

Not to play devil's advocate again as I don't actually feel it is warranted this time around, however is there any chance something got lost in translation along the way and he interpreted the "you" as being collective rather than singular? As in maybe he felt Sherry having them on hand after manufacturing and shipping from GMK was through was inclusive of their team of responsible people rather than having them on site. Likely grasping at straws but still feel like he/they wouldn't lie about something that can so easily be contradicted by others involved. Maybe I give people too much credit, wouldn't be the first time, probably won't be the last.

That said, what I don't really understand is why Sherry didn't just ship them over 3 months ago when he received them - I assume everyone knew they'd need them so they could actually ship stuff to their customers, unless there were/are problems with transactions (eg. Sherry not having been paid for shipping yet or something) I find it odd that nothing has happened for several months when shipping stuff is literally what they do on a daily basis. Again, just conjecture but it all seems very odd.

Either way, sad to see such small things get in the way in such a meaningful manner; be nice to get all this wrapped up now that the aluminium bottoms are finally culminating.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Mon, 29 January 2018, 22:29:24
Here's what he said, 3 months ago...

Hello Terry,

It's definitely hard for me to contact the partners since we work on different schedules (them being in SEA). Nonetheless we did get recent updates, the sets are ready to ship. They are also expecting me to send them the GMK sets so they can ship the premium kits within Asia. I don't have any guaranteed dates yet though.

GMK has had GBs fulfill faster than this.

Not to play devil's advocate again as I don't actually feel it is warranted this time around, however is there any chance something got lost in translation along the way and he interpreted the "you" as being collective rather than singular? As in maybe he felt Sherry having them on hand after manufacturing and shipping from GMK was through was inclusive of their team of responsible people rather than having them on site. Likely grasping at straws but still feel like he/they wouldn't lie about something that can so easily be contradicted by others involved. Maybe I give people too much credit, wouldn't be the first time, probably won't be the last.

That said, what I don't really understand is why Sherry didn't just ship them over 3 months ago when he received them - I assume everyone knew they'd need them so they could actually ship stuff to their customers, unless there were/are problems with transactions (eg. Sherry not having been paid for shipping yet or something) I find it odd that nothing has happened for several months when shipping stuff is literally what they do on a daily basis. Again, just conjecture but it all seems very odd.

Either way, sad to see such small things get in the way in such a meaningful manner; be nice to get all this wrapped up now that the aluminium bottoms are finally culminating.
That what we were told, that's why we've been saying that we gonna ship the premium kit since 2-3 months ago. Then again Sherry is part of us. I don't know what to say.

edit: It's not nice to just call someone a liar without knowing the full story. Juahenza and I do not owe Sherry any payment for the premium kit to be shipped over. No pointing fingers, we are working on the issues.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 30 January 2018, 02:21:33
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wongie on Tue, 30 January 2018, 02:32:00
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.


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Uggh, i'm salivating. Those look like thicc, hefty chunks of aluminium. Looking forward to seeing if they're hefty enough to use as bludgeoning instruments.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 30 January 2018, 07:06:16
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.

Great! Do you have the GMK sets in hand?
Yeah.  :cool:

Liar. For the record, Sherry told us months ago that Juahenza's post was false. Everyone just dropped it.
We are just protecting the interest of our partner. I’m not sure what Sherry told you, we are still waiting for the shipment from him.


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You know, I was probably more abrasive than I needed to be. That said, most countries don't subscribe to the Asian philosophy of saving face in quite the same way, so comments like the one below make me feel that this misrepresentation was intentional. It would be one thing if it were a one-time thing but this buy has been one misrepresentation after another.

edit: It's not nice to just call someone a liar without knowing the full story. Juahenza and I do not owe Sherry any payment for the premium kit to be shipped over. No pointing fingers, we are working on the issues.

This is either a commercial product, or a group buy. If it's a group buy, we're your business partners as well; we financed production. Please protect our interests as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Tue, 30 January 2018, 07:24:11
So now they're waiting on keysets that were manufactured months ago and no one ever bothered to send them to the people who needed them? It's just one pathetic excuse after another isn't it? Impossible to trust anything anyone says at this point.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 30 January 2018, 10:29:46
So now they're waiting on keysets that were manufactured months ago and no one ever bothered to send them to the people who needed them? It's just one pathetic excuse after another isn't it? Impossible to trust anything anyone says at this point.

Significant lack of communication aside, I can understand the problems up to this point. Most of it is manufacturing issues or unexpected malfunctions/damages. But the fact that Sherry waited this long to ship the GMK set (and MOD switches too most likely) is hard to excuse. Sherry runs a pretty extensive website; he isn't new to this. Unless he has additional information to explain the situation he really dropped the ball here. Not a good first impression for Originative to make on me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 30 January 2018, 12:10:48
I'm still just excited to be getting them at all, I don't care if there are a lot of delays and production issues, this is going to be awesome when I have it, whenever that will be
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 30 January 2018, 12:53:40
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.


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Uggh, i'm salivating. Those look like thicc, hefty chunks of aluminium. Looking forward to seeing if they're hefty enough to use as bludgeoning instruments.

Hell yeah.  Very excited!  Can't wait for that shipping notification!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 31 January 2018, 09:58:23
So is there an estimate on when the keysets will arrive? we've been through been so much **** throughout this whole group buy good lord more delays.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 31 January 2018, 13:06:20
Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are?  I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs.  It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 31 January 2018, 13:21:50
Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are?  I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs.  It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.

If no one else responds, I will pull mine tonight and measure the screws.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Wed, 31 January 2018, 17:39:24
So is there an estimate on when the keysets will arrive? we've been through been so much **** throughout this whole group buy good lord more delays.

Oh there will definitely be more delays to come..  ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Wed, 31 January 2018, 17:44:40
So is there an estimate on when the keysets will arrive? we've been through been so much **** throughout this whole group buy good lord more delays.

Oh there will definitely be more delays to come..  ;D
At this point I'm expecting the cracked poly bottoms to be replaced sometime in Q3 of this year.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 31 January 2018, 20:29:44
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This is the latest update form Sheraton.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 31 January 2018, 20:48:30
Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are?  I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs.  It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.

Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Poly to casing: M3 x 15mm socket head screw
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 31 January 2018, 21:59:01
Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are?  I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs.  It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E5EOIWW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 01 February 2018, 10:40:36
Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are?  I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs.  It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.

Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Poly to casing: M3 x 15mm socket head screw

(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/29336398/youre-the-man-now-dog.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 01 February 2018, 19:30:43
I really wish I could just cut the GMK caps from my premium order and receive my board. I don't care about the caps, honestly, and if I had known it would add a year to the shipping time I wouldn't have ordered them. Is it possible to just ship my kit without them so I can be done already?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Thu, 01 February 2018, 20:12:10
I really wish I could just cut the GMK caps from my premium order and receive my board. I don't care about the caps, honestly, and if I had known it would add a year to the shipping time I wouldn't have ordered them. Is it possible to just ship my kit without them so I can be done already?

I didn't get them and my order hasn't shipped either. I just replace the word "week" with the word "month" in this thread and my expectations are about on point.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Thu, 01 February 2018, 20:37:00
Oh look, yet another delay. Huh, I guess that January 2nd update that said "Premium Kit going on - shipping" was...what do you call it...a bald-faced lie.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 01 February 2018, 21:32:14
Oh look, yet another delay. Huh, I guess that January 2nd update that said "Premium Kit going on - shipping" was...what do you call it...a bald-faced lie.

I don't think lying was the intention; I think it was just poorly worded/formatted. Something more along the lines of "premium kits are currently being packaged". I've seen some of his other comments worded a bit weird/poorly.

I could be wrong though; that's just how I perceive it. Once again, more communication would clear things up. I think it's sad that this delay probably could have easily been avoided, but eh. We've been through so much that I'm just emotionally tired out on this project. No excitement, no anger, just nothing. I hope that once I get my board I won't be a constant reminder of the less-than-smooth experience we've had. I'm scared of that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 01 February 2018, 21:48:09
I really wish I could just cut the GMK caps from my premium order and receive my board. I don't care about the caps, honestly, and if I had known it would add a year to the shipping time I wouldn't have ordered them. Is it possible to just ship my kit without them so I can be done already?

I didn't get them and my order hasn't shipped either. I just replace the word "week" with the word "month" in this thread and my expectations are about on point.  :thumb:

Replace the fulfillment date on the first post to 1 year 16 weeks and people got their boards early!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Thu, 01 February 2018, 21:57:32
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.


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So aluminium bottom basic orders will ship tomorrow?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 02 February 2018, 07:14:10
Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are?  I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs.  It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E5EOIWW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Anyone know what size and thread pitch the screws that secure the foot to the bottom are?  I'm just going to source my own screws and stabs.  It'll be another year at this pace if I wait for the GB runners.

Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Poly to casing: M3 x 15mm socket head screw

Thanks guys.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 02 February 2018, 11:04:59
Oh look, yet another delay. Huh, I guess that January 2nd update that said "Premium Kit going on - shipping" was...what do you call it...a bald-faced lie.

I don't think lying was the intention; I think it was just poorly worded/formatted. Something more along the lines of "premium kits are currently being packaged". I've seen some of his other comments worded a bit weird/poorly.

I could be wrong though; that's just how I perceive it. Once again, more communication would clear things up. I think it's sad that this delay probably could have easily been avoided, but eh. We've been through so much that I'm just emotionally tired out on this project. No excitement, no anger, just nothing. I hope that once I get my board I won't be a constant reminder of the less-than-smooth experience we've had. I'm scared of that.

I saw one in person at the PDXKBC meetup and my excitement came right back!  It's a solid hunk of aluminum and the anodization is spectacular.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Fri, 02 February 2018, 11:37:27
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.


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So aluminium bottom basic orders will ship tomorrow?

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You should know the drill by now.. They'll ship in a few weeks or months.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 02 February 2018, 13:05:09
Oh look, yet another delay. Huh, I guess that January 2nd update that said "Premium Kit going on - shipping" was...what do you call it...a bald-faced lie.

I don't think lying was the intention; I think it was just poorly worded/formatted. Something more along the lines of "premium kits are currently being packaged". I've seen some of his other comments worded a bit weird/poorly.

I could be wrong though; that's just how I perceive it. Once again, more communication would clear things up. I think it's sad that this delay probably could have easily been avoided, but eh. We've been through so much that I'm just emotionally tired out on this project. No excitement, no anger, just nothing. I hope that once I get my board I won't be a constant reminder of the less-than-smooth experience we've had. I'm scared of that.

I saw one in person at the PDXKBC meetup and my excitement came right back!  It's a solid hunk of aluminum and the anodization is spectacular.
Yeah. I’ve so many customs but the anodizing of the exent is the best that I’ve ever seen.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Shiro583 on Fri, 02 February 2018, 19:43:00
Hi, I haven't been following the GB super closely since joining and the order I placed for a basic kit(PCB, Case, plate, and polycarbonate bottom plate) arrived with the PCB and bottom plate missing.

Who should I contact about getting the parts I'm missing?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 02 February 2018, 20:53:36
Hi, I haven't been following the GB super closely since joining and the order I placed for a basic kit(PCB, Case, plate, and polycarbonate bottom plate) arrived with the PCB and bottom plate missing.

Who should I contact about getting the parts I'm missing?

You'll want to PM Juahenza and/or Yuktsi. I haven't seen Juahenza around here much lately so I would try Yuktsi first. PM seems to be hit or miss though, so be prepared to send more than one.

I've heard of stabilizers missing (a lot of stabilizers missing), but this is the first I've heard of a PCB and plate missing. That's no fun.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 02 February 2018, 21:10:15
Who should I contact about getting the parts I'm missing?
You'll want to PM Juahenza and/or Yuktsi. I haven't seen Juahenza around here much lately so I would try Yuktsi first. PM seems to be hit or miss though, so be prepared to send more than one.

I wouldn't send more than one, that just makes it harder for them to go through them and overall causes more problems and more delays than there already are. If they aren't going to respond to one message they aren't going to respond to 6.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 03 February 2018, 01:11:13
If anyone is interested in a black w/poly bottom premium kit with extra plate and pcb, shoot me a PM.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Sat, 03 February 2018, 10:14:01
Who should I contact about getting the parts I'm missing?
You'll want to PM Juahenza and/or Yuktsi. I haven't seen Juahenza around here much lately so I would try Yuktsi first. PM seems to be hit or miss though, so be prepared to send more than one.

I wouldn't send more than one, that just makes it harder for them to go through them and overall causes more problems and more delays than there already are. If they aren't going to respond to one message they aren't going to respond to 6.

For what it's worth, yuktsi responded to my first and only PM within 12 hours.  I realize others haven't been so lucky and I suspect they were asking questions to which yuktsi didn't have a good answer at the time.  The organizers in this GB seem to prefer silence over making **** up... in most cases.  That's not entirely unreasonable.

I guess what I'm saying is, if you don't hear back in a week it's probably safe to assume your message was read but there wasn't a meaningful answer, so you can ask again for follow-up.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sat, 03 February 2018, 11:39:14
if you don't hear back in a week it's probably safe to assume your message was read

Unless the person you pm'd has been offline for the past 3 weeks :^)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: doooostin on Sun, 04 February 2018, 01:47:43
Figured I'd put in my two cents. Got my order a couple weeks ago, everything came in great condition, no cracked polycarb or anything. Looks like they listened and packed the screws differently. The pink anodization is superb!

Now time to wait for GMK lazer....
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sun, 04 February 2018, 03:25:39
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.

What about the shipping of non premium pack with alu bottom? It was supposed to be shipped last week but I don’t think so since I am still waiting to be contacted to regularize my shipping fees and provide my adresse. When do you intend to ship them? (And I am still waiting for your pm with the invoice for shipping).

Thanks  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Sun, 04 February 2018, 12:03:44
Well, I was trying to repair my PCB, the one that technically only had a reflowing issue and it seems I ****ed it up because now less LED's will turn on than before.
I can't see anything burnt or any bad joint because I don't have a good enough loupe or lens to see those tiny legs and I don't know how to proceed now.
I'm very angry right now because not every one of us has the tools, the time or even the ability to repair such small things (and trust me, this is not the first time I pick up a soldering iron).
We shouldn't be supposed to repair our own PCB's that supposedly passed a QC. Not every one of us here enjoy's electronics, we are here for keyboards, not to repair thing's we have paid for.

Since I can't expect the runners shipping or repairing nothing, does anyone here has any experience de-soldering those SMD LED's? I don't even know how to proceed since I don't know what or how I screwed up. Also, can anyone tell me where can I find them to purchase some?

UPDATE: I've been able to de-solder it, but unfortunately I've also lifted a pad. There's some trace exposed right next to it, but I don't have any tip small enough for that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 04 February 2018, 13:14:00
Well, I was trying to repair my PCB, the one that technically only had a reflowing issue and it seems I ****ed it up because now less LED's will turn on than before.
I can't see anything burnt or any bad joint because I don't have a good enough loupe or lens to see those tiny legs and I don't know how to proceed now.
I'm very angry right now because not every one of us has the tools, the time or even the ability to repair such small things (and trust me, this is not the first time I pick up a soldering iron).
We shouldn't be supposed to repair our own PCB's that supposedly passed a QC. Not every one of us here enjoy's electronics, we are here for keyboards, not to repair thing's we have paid for.

Since I can't expect the runners shipping or repairing nothing, does anyone here has any experience de-soldering those SMD LED's? I don't even know how to proceed since I don't know what or how I screwed up. Also, can anyone tell me where can I find them to purchase some?

UPDATE: I've been able to de-solder it, but unfortunately I've also lifted a pad. There's some trace exposed right next to it, but I don't have any tip small enough for that.

I wouldn't risk causing further damage, wait until the GB period has ended and try to get it replaced.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: speedemonv12 on Sun, 04 February 2018, 13:16:15
Well, I was trying to repair my PCB, the one that technically only had a reflowing issue and it seems I ****ed it up because now less LED's will turn on than before.
I can't see anything burnt or any bad joint because I don't have a good enough loupe or lens to see those tiny legs and I don't know how to proceed now.
I'm very angry right now because not every one of us has the tools, the time or even the ability to repair such small things (and trust me, this is not the first time I pick up a soldering iron).
We shouldn't be supposed to repair our own PCB's that supposedly passed a QC. Not every one of us here enjoy's electronics, we are here for keyboards, not to repair thing's we have paid for.

Since I can't expect the runners shipping or repairing nothing, does anyone here has any experience de-soldering those SMD LED's? I don't even know how to proceed since I don't know what or how I screwed up. Also, can anyone tell me where can I find them to purchase some?

UPDATE: I've been able to de-solder it, but unfortunately I've also lifted a pad. There's some trace exposed right next to it, but I don't have any tip small enough for that.

I wouldn't risk causing further damage, wait until the GB period has ended and try to get it replaced.


I’m in a similar boat except I just skipped trying to repair for fear of damaging it. My bottom was cracked as well so hopefully I’ll get a replacement for that and i hope to find someone local that could repair the PCB.

I’m in Austin if anyone knows if someone or some place in this area


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Sun, 04 February 2018, 13:31:20
Well, I was trying to repair my PCB, the one that technically only had a reflowing issue and it seems I ****ed it up because now less LED's will turn on than before.
I can't see anything burnt or any bad joint because I don't have a good enough loupe or lens to see those tiny legs and I don't know how to proceed now.
I'm very angry right now because not every one of us has the tools, the time or even the ability to repair such small things (and trust me, this is not the first time I pick up a soldering iron).
We shouldn't be supposed to repair our own PCB's that supposedly passed a QC. Not every one of us here enjoy's electronics, we are here for keyboards, not to repair thing's we have paid for.

Since I can't expect the runners shipping or repairing nothing, does anyone here has any experience de-soldering those SMD LED's? I don't even know how to proceed since I don't know what or how I screwed up. Also, can anyone tell me where can I find them to purchase some?

UPDATE: I've been able to de-solder it, but unfortunately I've also lifted a pad. There's some trace exposed right next to it, but I don't have any tip small enough for that.

I wouldn't risk causing further damage, wait until the GB period has ended and try to get it replaced.

I appreciate your comment, but I'm not in the mood to wait months just to get an answer with problems because technically I screwed it up. Shipping my PCB to them will be expensive, and I doubt they will ship a replacement to me, since it would open the door to lots of replacements of other faulty PCB's we know are out there.

If I can get an LED of the same kind I will try to solder it and fix the problem myself, as we are supposed to do in this GB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 04 February 2018, 14:13:01
I appreciate your comment, but I'm not in the mood to wait months just to get an answer with problems because technically I screwed it up. Shipping my PCB to them will be expensive, and I doubt they will ship a replacement to me, since it would open the door to lots of replacements of other faulty PCB's we know are out there.

If I can get an LED of the same kind I will try to solder it and fix the problem myself, as we are supposed to do in this GB.

My concern would be screwing it up, or damaging something else that makes the keyboard itself not work, and then seeing other people just get free replacements without having to go through any of the repair process themselves, without risking screwing anything up, and without a problem they get a working PCB that just plugs in and works and they are happy and I am miserable.

Regardless I hope you can get it working and not have any issues with it, I would love to see it once you get it up and running
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Sun, 04 February 2018, 14:46:45
I appreciate your comment, but I'm not in the mood to wait months just to get an answer with problems because technically I screwed it up. Shipping my PCB to them will be expensive, and I doubt they will ship a replacement to me, since it would open the door to lots of replacements of other faulty PCB's we know are out there.

If I can get an LED of the same kind I will try to solder it and fix the problem myself, as we are supposed to do in this GB.

My concern would be screwing it up, or damaging something else that makes the keyboard itself not work, and then seeing other people just get free replacements without having to go through any of the repair process themselves, without risking screwing anything up, and without a problem they get a working PCB that just plugs in and works and they are happy and I am miserable.

Regardless I hope you can get it working and not have any issues with it, I would love to see it once you get it up and running

You know, I didn't see it like that and I understand what you mean and I can say that's a fair point. That said, I prefer doing something while I wait for the possible replacement and I'm pretty confident I won't screw the switch matrix or the controller, but I'll keep what you said in mind if it turns out frustrating  :p

And don't worry, I'll post it here and in reddit when I have it built and working!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 06 February 2018, 20:08:16
Any word on the GMK sets' whereabouts? Last we heard the switches were meant to be arriving last week (on the 30th), one could infer from that that the sets should be heading out to the team in charge of shipping once all of that is with Sherry. I assume it's too short notice for them to already have arrived at their destination but do we know whether or not they're en route etc?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 06 February 2018, 22:14:50
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.

yuktsi - do you know, for those of us that ordered switches as well, is this part of the premium kit you are waiting on? I ordered MOD-M switches for an addt'l $40 at the time of the GB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 07 February 2018, 05:13:12
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.

yuktsi - do you know, for those of us that ordered switches as well, is this part of the premium kit you are waiting on? I ordered MOD-M switches for an addt'l $40 at the time of the GB.
The MOD is coming from Sherry as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: speedemonv12 on Wed, 07 February 2018, 06:44:12
Any news on what’s happening with the replacement polycarbonate bottoms?


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 07 February 2018, 06:46:04
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.

What about the shipping of non premium pack with alu bottom? It was supposed to be shipped last week but I don’t think so since I am still waiting to be contacted to regularize my shipping fees and provide my adresse. When do you intend to ship them? (And I am still waiting for your pm with the invoice for shipping).

Thanks !

So what about these kit? I don't think shipping is done for basic kit with alu bottom, can you provide some info on this Yuktsi ?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 07 February 2018, 08:20:39
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.

What about the shipping of non premium pack with alu bottom? It was supposed to be shipped last week but I don’t think so since I am still waiting to be contacted to regularize my shipping fees and provide my adresse. When do you intend to ship them? (And I am still waiting for your pm with the invoice for shipping).

Thanks !

So what about these kit? I don't think shipping is done for basic kit with alu bottom, can you provide some info on this Yuktsi ?
I actually personally packed yours and energyd's last Thursday. Let me check tmr.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Wed, 07 February 2018, 08:32:13
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.

What about the shipping of non premium pack with alu bottom? It was supposed to be shipped last week but I don’t think so since I am still waiting to be contacted to regularize my shipping fees and provide my adresse. When do you intend to ship them? (And I am still waiting for your pm with the invoice for shipping).

Thanks !

So what about these kit? I don't think shipping is done for basic kit with alu bottom, can you provide some info on this Yuktsi ?
I actually personally packed yours and energyd's last Thursday. Let me check tmr.

yes! thanks yuktsi. Pm-ed you to confirm my address.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 07 February 2018, 11:20:39
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We gonna have the aluminium bottom basic orders shipped by this week. By then we will have 50% shipped.

What about the shipping of non premium pack with alu bottom? It was supposed to be shipped last week but I don’t think so since I am still waiting to be contacted to regularize my shipping fees and provide my adresse. When do you intend to ship them? (And I am still waiting for your pm with the invoice for shipping).

Thanks !

So what about these kit? I don't think shipping is done for basic kit with alu bottom, can you provide some info on this Yuktsi ?
I actually personally packed yours and energyd's last Thursday. Let me check tmr.

Oh snap!  That means mine is probably coming up soon!  Excited!!!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 07 February 2018, 12:41:39
The MOD is coming from Sherry as well.

You might have missed it, but Vigrith asked about details of the GMK set and what kind of timetable you guys are looking at for getting Premium kits out. I would like to know this too. The details provided have been very vague, so an explanation of what went wrong and what is happening to get back on track would be very much appreciated.

I know Juahenza might be tired of this project, but I think an update on the current state of everything would do use all some good. The "update comment" on the first page hasn't been updated in a month, and as mentioned earlier we are all quite in the dark about what's going on with premium kits, other than "there's some issues and they're being worked on".
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Saiph on Wed, 07 February 2018, 13:16:12
Does anyone know the measurements for the screws that attach the plate to the top of the board? I'm only missing one but I don't really know how to measure screws.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Wed, 07 February 2018, 13:21:51
Boards with premium kit are all packed, just waiting for the premium kit to arrive.

yuktsi - do you know, for those of us that ordered switches as well, is this part of the premium kit you are waiting on? I ordered MOD-M switches for an addt'l $40 at the time of the GB.
The MOD is coming from Sherry as well.

Sorry, asking again: Can I please forego the GMK caps and the switches and just have you ship my kit? I don't care about switches or caps anymore, I'd just like to receive the board and move on.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Wed, 07 February 2018, 13:24:16
The MOD is coming from Sherry as well.

You might have missed it, but Vigrith asked about details of the GMK set and what kind of timetable you guys are looking at for getting Premium kits out. I would like to know this too. The details provided have been very vague, so an explanation of what went wrong and what is happening to get back on track would be very much appreciated.

I know Juahenza might be tired of this project, but I think an update on the current state of everything would do use all some good. The "update comment" on the first page hasn't been updated in a month, and as mentioned earlier we are all quite in the dark about what's going on with premium kits, other than "there's some issues and they're being worked on".

It really is odd. I'm sure we're all sick of coming to this thread looking for updates, only to see posts of people asking for updates.

By now you'd think that the group buy runners would have learned that people will grant then more leeway if they simply provide any kind of basic ongoing updates. Also this thread would become less cluttered, people would stop bugging them, and the general attitude would be much more positive.

There are so many benefits that require the minimal effort of typing up an update every now and then. It would take maybe a few minutes every few days or so. I'm extremely patient and would really like to grant the runners every bit of slack possible, but I can't pretend to understand their approach to running this buy. At this point they're either inept or don't care, or a little of both. I do mean that in the most positive way. :) I'm thankful that people go out of their way to run group buys for the community.

Hopefully they learn the importance of communication if they plan to run future buys. This is the last one I join with any of these people involved, unless there is a turnaround and they somehow start communicating effectively.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 07 February 2018, 13:53:30
By now you'd think that the group buy runners would have learned that people will grant then more leeway if they simply provide any kind of basic ongoing updates. Also this thread would become less cluttered, people would stop bugging them, and the general attitude would be much more positive.

He wouldn't know, maybe not even care, since he's been out for a month at this point. Glad yuktsi is giving us updates, if not we'd be blind for another month.

Well at least this whole thread is a lesson on how not to be a group buy runner lol
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 07 February 2018, 19:03:32
Excited for this keybaord
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Wed, 07 February 2018, 21:09:57
Any word on the aluminum bottom anodization? That's the only part I'm waiting on for my order.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 08 February 2018, 09:50:17
Any word on the aluminum bottom anodization? That's the only part I'm waiting on for my order.

I've been following this thread fairly closely, but I could have missed something.  My understanding is that the aluminum bottoms have come back from anodization and is starting to ship.   ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Thu, 08 February 2018, 11:45:11
Any word on the aluminum bottom anodization? That's the only part I'm waiting on for my order.

I've been following this thread fairly closely, but I could have missed something.  My understanding is that the aluminum bottoms have come back from anodization and is starting to ship.   ;D

Yeah same, which is why people are throwing out words like "liar"
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 08 February 2018, 12:52:41
I got to see one of these in person and they are very much worth the wait! Have faith guys, they do exist, and they are amazing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Thu, 08 February 2018, 12:57:12
I got to see one of these in person and they are very much worth the wait! Have faith guys, they do exist, and they are amazing.

No **** they exist. You've been in here post after post essentially saying nothing but "hurr durr I'm excited and don't care about delays and broken ****" so we know, we get it. I'm concerned given people are still receiving ****ed up orders missing entire things like PCB??? I can't wait til you get your two exent and they're ****ed up and you maybe start empathizing with the people having problems. We just want answers from the GB runners.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Thu, 08 February 2018, 13:01:29
I got to see one of these in person and they are very much worth the wait! Have faith guys, they do exist, and they are amazing.

No **** they exist. You've been in here post after post essentially saying nothing but "hurr durr I'm excited and don't care about delays and broken ****" so we know, we get it. I'm concerned given people are still receiving ****ed up orders missing entire things like PCB??? I can't wait til you get your two exent and they're ****ed up and you maybe start empathizing with the people having problems. We just want answers from the GB runners.

some people have more patience than others. no need to be a **** about it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 08 February 2018, 13:09:39
I got to see one of these in person and they are very much worth the wait! Have faith guys, they do exist, and they are amazing.

No **** they exist. You've been in here post after post essentially saying nothing but "hurr durr I'm excited and don't care about delays and broken ****" so we know, we get it. I'm concerned given people are still receiving ****ed up orders missing entire things like PCB??? I can't wait til you get your two exent and they're ****ed up and you maybe start empathizing with the people having problems. We just want answers from the GB runners.

Nah, even if I get a messed up board, a board that is so messed up that it doesn't even work when I plug it into my computer, and I can't set it down because the poly bottom is shattered and there isn't enough base to attach to the top, and the second board I also got is in the same shape (Yeah, twice the investment of most of the people crying over a couple cracks, and still patient, happy and excited) I still get it, **** happens, and I will send the busted parts back and continue to wait, patiently, for the replacements, and still be just as in awe of how gorgeous it is, and just as stoked to get it and twice that once I have it all put together.

It sucks people are having problems, I'm not saying it doesn't, but there isn't **** all we can do but wait. Would it be nice if we had more information? Sure. But there isn't. Would it be nice if there weren't defects? Of course, but there are. Complaining, whining, and getting ****ty at people trying to be supportive and positive isn't changing ****. Grow a ****ing modicum of acceptance for things that are 100% out of your control and exercise some patience.

edit: grammar
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Thu, 08 February 2018, 13:16:33
I got to see one of these in person and they are very much worth the wait! Have faith guys, they do exist, and they are amazing.

No **** they exist. You've been in here post after post essentially saying nothing but "hurr durr I'm excited and don't care about delays and broken ****" so we know, we get it. I'm concerned given people are still receiving ****ed up orders missing entire things like PCB??? I can't wait til you get your two exent and they're ****ed up and you maybe start empathizing with the people having problems. We just want answers from the GB runners.

Nah, even if I get a messed up board, a board that is so messed up that it doesn't even work when I plug it into my computer, and I can't set it down because the poly bottom is shattered and there isn't enough base to attach to the top, and the second board I also got is in the same shape (Yeah, twice the investment of most of the people crying over a couple cracks, and still patient, happy and excited) I still get it, **** happens, and I will send the busted parts back and continue to wait, patiently, for the replacements, and still be just as in awe of how gorgeous it is, and just as stoked to get it and twice that once I have it all put together.

It sucks people are having problems, I'm not saying it doesn't, but there isn't **** all we can do but wait. Would it be nice if we had more information? Sure. But there isn't. Would it be nice if there weren't defects? Of course, but there are. Complaining, whining, and getting ****ty at people trying to be supportive and positive isn't changing ****. Grow a ****ing modicum of acceptance for things that are 100% out of your control and exercise some patience.

edit: grammar

The fact you're willing to accept such a thing is hilarious to me, group buy or not. I've been patient, kiddo. As I said, I just wanted some information, like everyone else does, but here we are wondering where the GB runners are *crickets*. Takes how long to make a post?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 08 February 2018, 13:50:26
but here we are wondering where the GB runners are *crickets*. Takes how long to make a post?

IMO, it's worse. They waltz in here, drop a line or two about what they want to talk about, won't answer questions, and then disappear.

It's like Donald Trump is running this GB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Thu, 08 February 2018, 19:47:11
By now you'd think that the group buy runners would have learned that people will grant then more leeway if they simply provide any kind of basic ongoing updates. Also this thread would become less cluttered, people would stop bugging them, and the general attitude would be much more positive.

He wouldn't know, maybe not even care, since he's been out for a month at this point. Glad yuktsi is giving us updates, if not we'd be blind for another month.

Well at least this whole thread is a lesson on how not to be a group buy runner lol

We've also learned which GB runner(s) to avoid in the future.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 08 February 2018, 19:51:45
We've also learned which GB runner(s) to avoid in the future.

Even if these guys run another group buy that plays out exactly like this one, as long as a get a board as sweet as the Exent at the end of it I will definitely come back.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Thu, 08 February 2018, 20:03:48
We've also learned which GB runner(s) to avoid in the future.

Even if these guys run another group buy that plays out exactly like this one, as long as a get a board as sweet as the Exent at the end of it I will definitely come back.
sigh...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 08 February 2018, 20:17:24
sigh...

It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Thu, 08 February 2018, 20:22:56
sigh...

It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.
if you're the only backer for the next run cause everyone else is unhappy with how this run went then there is no funding which means no end product.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Thu, 08 February 2018, 20:32:38
sigh...

It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.
if you're the only backer for the next run cause everyone else is unhappy with how this run went then there is no funding which means no end product.

Just witnessing some post-purchase rationalization going on, that's all
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 08 February 2018, 20:35:36
sigh...

It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.

Are you be a Bastion keycap buyer from the US?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 08 February 2018, 20:44:50
It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.

It absolutely is not. That makes no sense whatsoever, you're basically stating customer support is irrelevant and no service/product providers should care to properly handle their dealings, you're saying deadlines are moot so long as the end product is up to snuff and you're saying total disregard for the process in general is acceptable and to be expected.

All of the above is the polar opposite of the truth. You keep trying to inject some excitement and positivity into what has been a rather unpleasant experience for everyone involved (whether they care for it or not) in more ways than one and absolving the responsible folk of any guilt or omission when that's not what they need nor what will earn you their, or anyone else's, respect. They know they've ****ed up, just as everyone inevitably does in life, your words for a while now are not helping anyone, in fact they are damaging to the ones targeted by the scrutiny of the unsatisfied customers. I have been nothing but fair to them, I have also not felt the need to shroud their obvious disregard and my wish that they (and everyone else that takes it upon themselves to run a GB) do better in the future.

Not only are you (in)advertently doing the above mentioned, you are also passing off ill behaviour as acceptable and potentially altering the course/handling of future group buys. Mind your words, you're on an internet forum but if everyone acted the way you do buys like this would be the norm - and they unfortunately are not short in number, at least not of late. There is a crucial part of all GBs that is strictly business so please don't respond with some kumbaya philosophy about the caveat emptor and how everyone should go into a group buy expecting nothing.

Find better ways to voice your optimism that don't completely discredit your opinion(s) and influence others in less than desirable ways.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Thu, 08 February 2018, 21:10:39
It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.

It absolutely is not. That makes no sense whatsoever, you're basically stating customer support is irrelevant and no service/product providers should care to properly handle their dealings, you're saying deadlines are moot so long as the end product is up to snuff and you're saying total disregard for the process in general is acceptable and to be expected.

All of the above is the polar opposite of the truth. You keep trying to inject some excitement and positivity into what has been a rather unpleasant experience for everyone involved (whether they care for it or not) in more ways than one and absolving the responsible folk of any guilt or omission when that's not what they need nor what will earn you their, or anyone else's, respect. They know they've ****ed up, just as everyone inevitably does in life, your words for a while now are not helping anyone, in fact they are damaging to the ones targeted by the scrutiny of the unsatisfied customers. I have been nothing but fair to them, I have also not felt the need to shroud their obvious disregard and my wish that they (and everyone else that takes it upon themselves to run a GB) do better in the future.

Not only are you (in)advertently doing the above mentioned, you are also passing off ill behaviour as acceptable and potentially altering the course/handling of future group buys. Mind your words, you're on an internet forum but if everyone acted the way you do buys like this would be the norm - and they unfortunately are not short in number, at least not of late. There is a crucial part of all GBs that is strictly business so please don't respond with some kumbaya philosophy about the caveat emptor and how everyone should go into a group buy expecting nothing.

Find better ways to voice your optimism that don't completely discredit your opinion(s) and influence others in less than desirable ways.

I couldn’t agree more.

I’d also like to point out that even if the only thing that did matter was the end product (which is not the case), almost every single product I have seen delivered has been FAR from acceptable.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 08 February 2018, 21:22:17
It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.


Deadlines don't matter right? The group buy runners can just wander off to do whatever for the next decade and then deliver the boards afterwards. That'll be completely fine, right? After all you're going to get the wonderful  end product that you're oh-so fixated on. Obviously only your voice matters on all the boards right? Even the ones you didn't pay for because obviously they'll all be fixed at the end of the day with the corrected and beautiful end product.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 09 February 2018, 06:50:32
sigh...

It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.

I envy your seemingly endless optimism, but it's really not helping.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 09 February 2018, 08:34:58
sigh...

It's all about that end product, it's the only thing that matters.

I think at this point you've said many things to the same effect many many many times now. It probably isn't worth repeating yourself anymore.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 09 February 2018, 11:48:30
I think at this point you've said many things to the same effect many many many times now. It probably isn't worth repeating yourself anymore.

So just like the people complaining and whining who are continuing to repeat themselves..?

I don't worry about the worth of repeating myself, don't worry that I will.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Fri, 09 February 2018, 11:55:55
I think at this point you've said many things to the same effect many many many times now. It probably isn't worth repeating yourself anymore.

So just like the people complaining and whining who are continuing to repeat themselves..?

I don't worry about the worth of repeating myself, don't worry that I will.
so brave
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 09 February 2018, 12:21:28
so brave

Our names will be written on the stones of Hliðskjálf in the halls of Valhalla
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 09 February 2018, 12:38:33
so brave

Our names will be written on the stones of Hliðskjálf in the halls of Valhalla

MOD Edit:  Chill
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 09 February 2018, 13:45:05
Our names will be written on the stones of Hliðskjálf in the halls of Valhalla

MOD Edit:  Chill

Ouch. Ok, I’ll stop.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Sat, 10 February 2018, 02:06:30
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.

Any help would be very greatly appreciated.

Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 10 February 2018, 04:29:35
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.

Any help would be very greatly appreciated.

Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
Or you could use the "Toggle Bootmapper" function

Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 10 February 2018, 04:51:34
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.

Any help would be very greatly appreciated.

Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
Or you could use the "Toggle Bootmapper" function

Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.

Thanks for the update. Still no expected timeframes for the Premium kits?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 10 February 2018, 09:55:59
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.

Quick question, and I apologise if this is crass of me to ask but I don't really know how things work over there - would CNY/Lunar Fest affect the potential shipping of the premium kits over the next couple weeks?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 10 February 2018, 11:30:17
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.

Quick question, and I apologise if this is crass of me to ask but I don't really know how things work over there - would CNY/Lunar Fest affect the potential shipping of the premium kits over the next couple weeks?

I'm in Hanoi to see some family for CNY, basically ****'s get all backed up and everything grinds to a halt for most of next week, nothing's gonna get done because everyone just wants to scrape by and spend more time with their families, and same usually goes for a lot of SEA countries that celebrate new years. Most things should start moving again around the 5th of Jan (Feb 20th or so).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 10 February 2018, 11:39:46
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.

Quick question, and I apologise if this is crass of me to ask but I don't really know how things work over there - would CNY/Lunar Fest affect the potential shipping of the premium kits over the next couple weeks?
Not sure about the other countries, but we have holidays only on the 16th and 17th.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 10 February 2018, 11:58:16
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.

Good news for those with aluminum bottoms!

Do you have any news on the progress of the Premium kits? We've only heard vague things here and there, so something more detailed would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Sat, 10 February 2018, 15:10:32
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.

Any help would be very greatly appreciated.

Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
Or you could use the "Toggle Bootmapper" function

Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.

"Toggle Bootmapper" doesn't appear to do anything.

How can I get a HEX file that is correct for this board?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sat, 10 February 2018, 15:39:04
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.

Any help would be very greatly appreciated.

Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
Or you could use the "Toggle Bootmapper" function

Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.

"Toggle Bootmapper" doesn't appear to do anything.

How can I get a HEX file that is correct for this board?

Toggle bootmapper will make it so when you hit a key on the keyboard, it is selected in Bootmapper Client so you can map it. Is that not working?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Sat, 10 February 2018, 16:47:25
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.

Any help would be very greatly appreciated.

Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
Or you could use the "Toggle Bootmapper" function

Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.

"Toggle Bootmapper" doesn't appear to do anything.

How can I get a HEX file that is correct for this board?

Toggle bootmapper will make it so when you hit a key on the keyboard, it is selected in Bootmapper Client so you can map it. Is that not working?

Ah okay, thank you, I see how it's supposed to work.

Unfortunately there are several keys that do not work. So.. is there something else I could be missing here, or does that mean the PCB is toast?

I have not soldered anything or done anything to the PCB except slot in some switches. =/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 10 February 2018, 16:56:48
I'm in Hanoi to see some family for CNY, basically ****'s get all backed up and everything grinds to a halt for most of next week, nothing's gonna get done because everyone just wants to scrape by and spend more time with their families, and same usually goes for a lot of SEA countries that celebrate new years. Most things should start moving again around the 5th of Jan (Feb 20th or so).

Not sure about the other countries, but we have holidays only on the 16th and 17th.

I appreciate the information, glad to hear it won't really impair shipping then.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sat, 10 February 2018, 17:17:00
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.

Any help would be very greatly appreciated.

Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.
Or you could use the "Toggle Bootmapper" function

Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.

"Toggle Bootmapper" doesn't appear to do anything.

How can I get a HEX file that is correct for this board?

Toggle bootmapper will make it so when you hit a key on the keyboard, it is selected in Bootmapper Client so you can map it. Is that not working?

Ah okay, thank you, I see how it's supposed to work.

Unfortunately there are several keys that do not work. So.. is there something else I could be missing here, or does that mean the PCB is toast?

I have not soldered anything or done anything to the PCB except slot in some switches. =/

Probably not toast, but diagnosing and repair might be more than you want to do. Do you have a multimeter?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Sat, 10 February 2018, 17:36:27
I do not.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sat, 10 February 2018, 18:48:22
I do not.

Unfortunately you're just stabbing in the dark without one.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: joey on Sat, 10 February 2018, 18:52:07

Unfortunately there are several keys that do not work. So.. is there something else I could be missing here, or does that mean the PCB is toast?

I have not soldered anything or done anything to the PCB except slot in some switches. =/
Can you try use tweezers on the switches that don't work? If you haven't soldered them, they might not have a good enough connection.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TelFiRE on Sun, 11 February 2018, 17:19:56
I do not.

Unfortunately you're just stabbing in the dark without one.

It doesn't seem fair that I should have to troubleshoot this myself given that it arrived this way. PCBs should arrive in working condition.


Unfortunately there are several keys that do not work. So.. is there something else I could be missing here, or does that mean the PCB is toast?

I have not soldered anything or done anything to the PCB except slot in some switches. =/
Can you try use tweezers on the switches that don't work? If you haven't soldered them, they might not have a good enough connection.

This is what I am saying, there are several points on the board that do not give a signal when bridged with tweezers.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 11 February 2018, 18:08:21
I do not.

Unfortunately you're just stabbing in the dark without one.

It doesn't seem fair that I should have to troubleshoot this myself given that it arrived this way. PCBs should arrive in working condition.

Review some previous pages ITT. I assure you that you are preaching to the choir on this issue.

That said if you get tired of waiting, it's probably fixable. Get a multimeter or find someone in your country you can ship the PCB to for repair.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 12 February 2018, 14:37:29
I do not.

Unfortunately you're just stabbing in the dark without one.

It doesn't seem fair that I should have to troubleshoot this myself given that it arrived this way. PCBs should arrive in working condition.


Unfortunately there are several keys that do not work. So.. is there something else I could be missing here, or does that mean the PCB is toast?

I have not soldered anything or done anything to the PCB except slot in some switches. =/
Can you try use tweezers on the switches that don't work? If you haven't soldered them, they might not have a good enough connection.

This is what I am saying, there are several points on the board that do not give a signal when bridged with tweezers.

:(  This is one of the things I'm afraid of...   I was hoping to just solder in some switches and LEDs and be off!  Fixing leads, SMD LEDs, etc. does not sound like a fun time without knowing what's going on. 

Can anyone explain to me what would go wrong in the production process that would lead to these kinds of issues?  I'm interested, so that if I do receive a faulty PCB, I'd like to know how to fix it or at least know where to start.

Thanks to everyone, looking forward to getting a working board out of this project...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 12 February 2018, 14:51:04
With his board, I suspect missing or damaged diodes.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 12 February 2018, 15:27:32
Anyone know off the top of their head other PCBs that might fight the Exent.

Obviously not ideal to buy a whole separate piece when this should just work as expected in the first place, but might ease some minds for people that don't want to fuss with home repairs and don't want to wait on replacement announcements.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 12 February 2018, 18:06:48
Anyone know off the top of their head other PCBs that might fight the Exent.

Obviously not ideal to buy a whole separate piece when this should just work as expected in the first place, but might ease some minds for people that don't want to fuss with home repairs and don't want to wait on replacement announcements.

I dunno, maybe as remittance to us they could release the PCB and plate CAD files? So someone can run a group buy for them or we can individually have our own made? Has anyone mentioned that before? I feel like someone has, it sounds really familiar  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 12 February 2018, 18:15:10
Anyone know off the top of their head other PCBs that might fight the Exent.

Obviously not ideal to buy a whole separate piece when this should just work as expected in the first place, but might ease some minds for people that don't want to fuss with home repairs and don't want to wait on replacement announcements.

On a similar note I wouldn't mind having some other plate/case options. I'm going to have an extra PCB, and in the unlikely event that both of them actually work I wouldn't mind building another keyboard.

Hopefully a simple plate will be offered once Originative starts selling extras. Although I'm not happy with whatever's going wrong the Premium kits, so I'd prefer to spend my money elsewhere if possible.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Tue, 13 February 2018, 08:18:27
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.
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I haven't received any tracking number yet
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 13 February 2018, 09:46:04
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.

I haven't received any tracking number yet

Whatever they say in public, multiply by 3.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: brizzzle on Tue, 13 February 2018, 12:19:31
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.

Any help would be very greatly appreciated.

Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.

This worked for me.


I also wrote a quick guide on programming the Exent.

https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper


Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 13 February 2018, 12:35:04
Any updates on the premium kits? Been quite a while. Packed? Shipped?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 13 February 2018, 13:55:15
I just got around to looking at soldering this thing, and I went to test the board, and I couldn't short any of the keys. The RGB LEDs are on but I can't get anything at all out of it in EK Switch Hitter. So I fired up Bootmapper client and see every key as "BAD". I downloaded some firmware files I found on Winkeyless but they don't seem to correspond to this PCB, very random keypresses, and it doesn't seem straightforward to figure out which column/row corresponds to which key.

Any help would be very greatly appreciated.

Edit: I started to try to map it out just by feel, seeing which pads activated what, and changing it accordingly, but I have run into several spots that don't register any keypress, even when I've filled every row and column. Little bit nervous here.

This worked for me.


I also wrote a quick guide on programming the Exent.

https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper



I haven't seen a tutorial or preferred way of programming the EXENT on the front page/original post.  Is there a 'correct' way to program this?  I remember someone recommended a way at one point, but there's a lot of pages to dig through.  It would be helpful to have the information posted on the front page.  Thanks!!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 13 February 2018, 15:03:57

I also wrote a quick guide on programming the Exent.

https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper

I haven't seen a tutorial or preferred way of programming the EXENT on the front page/original post.  Is there a 'correct' way to program this?  I remember someone recommended a way at one point, but there's a lot of pages to dig through.  It would be helpful to have the information posted on the front page.  Thanks!!!

That link by catweewee is the closest thing to a tutorial or correct way that we have I believe. That's all that I've seen anyway.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Tue, 13 February 2018, 21:02:44
Btw, I have tracking number for almost all the aluminum bottom basic kit orders, will update to PayPal over the weekend. Cheers.

I haven't received any tracking number yet

Same... Just when you think it can only get better...  :blank:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Tue, 13 February 2018, 21:54:13
Me too..they told me 2weeks ago. but not any update yet.
Is there any problem?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 14 February 2018, 01:09:33
Any updates on the premium kits? Been quite a while. Packed? Shipped?

I would like to know this as well!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 14 February 2018, 13:59:55

I also wrote a quick guide on programming the Exent.

https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper

I haven't seen a tutorial or preferred way of programming the EXENT on the front page/original post.  Is there a 'correct' way to program this?  I remember someone recommended a way at one point, but there's a lot of pages to dig through.  It would be helpful to have the information posted on the front page.  Thanks!!!

That link by catweewee is the closest thing to a tutorial or correct way that we have I believe. That's all that I've seen anyway.

I'm somewhat comfortable with flashing controllers, making layouts, etc. but I am surprised there's no leadership on this front.  At least a config file or default .hex from the creators would be nice.  I guess I'm asking for too much...   :-\
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Wed, 14 February 2018, 20:16:29
Any updates on the premium kits? Been quite a while. Packed? Shipped?

Just give up hope ಠ_ಠ Our money is gone, we should choose our next GB's more carefully.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 14 February 2018, 21:53:07
Any updates on the premium kits? Been quite a while. Packed? Shipped?

Just give up hope ಠ_ಠ Our money is gone, we should choose our next GB's more carefully.

literally everything is made, just has to ship to you

not saying that'll happen overnight

but it will probably happen
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 14 February 2018, 22:01:30
Any updates on the premium kits? Been quite a while. Packed? Shipped?

Just give up hope ಠ_ಠ Our money is gone, we should choose our next GB's more carefully.

literally everything is made, just has to ship to you

not saying that'll happen overnight

but it will probably happen

I get what you're saying, but those keycaps have been sitting in the US since ~November when they were supposed to be in SEA and neither side is stating why. It's uncomfortable to those of us who are waiting on parts of our product.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Wed, 14 February 2018, 22:15:58
aluminium bottom with basic set have not been invoice updated yet.
maybe premium set will be taken long...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 14 February 2018, 22:48:39
I get what you're saying, but those keycaps have been sitting in the US since ~November when they were supposed to be in SEA and neither side is stating why.

I guess this would be a good time to share a small piece of info that I have. I was going to wait a while in hopes that someone running the group buy would clear things up properly and in detail, but the timing seems good and I doubt waiting will yeild results any time soon.

Around the beginning of February I contacted Originative and asked for an explanation as to why the seemingly unnecessary delay on the Premium kits. Here is the response I got:

Quote
Hello ...,

We're currently awaiting the EXENT sets right now to ship to our customers. We have sent the payment, but we haven't received anything product-wise yet for our customers.

As soon as we receive the EXENT keyboards, we'll be sending an invoice to group buy participants, and then we'll be shipping out the keyboards.

Kind Regards,
Sheraton

From what I can tell in the first paragraph the GMK sets are not ready yet. Why it's taking this long I wish I knew. I'm assuming whoever's in charge put in the order ridiculously late, or that GMK didn't start production due to a lack of communication (that would be easy to assume)

The second paragraph confuses me though. It sounds like all of the Premium kits are going to be shipped to Originative, they'll repackage the GMK set + switches + keyboard, then send them off. Shipping the switches and GMK set to Juanhenza sounds much cheaper, so I dunno why they would do the opposite. Unless the first "keyboard" actually meant keyset, but that's still a bit fuzzy. After already sending me an explanation I thought it would be rude to ask for clarification, so I left it at that.

Sorry if this leaves more questions than answers, but I thought a little bit of confusing information was just as good as the no information that's currently being provided (or rather, not provided). Do remember that this info is two weeks old, so any number of things might have changed. I could have misunderstood his response as well (and I hope that I have).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Wed, 14 February 2018, 22:52:26
Well that’s bloody confusing.

Especially considering this: https://instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/

Genuinely can’t work out who Sherry is referring to (such as who “we” is, who the customers are). Also sounds like theyre proxying something, which doesn’t add up, as noted above.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 14 February 2018, 22:57:06
Well that’s bloody confusing.

Especially considering this: https://instagram.com/p/BYRdToODnKd/

Genuinely can’t work out who Sherry is referring to (such as who “we” is, who the customers are). Also sounds like theyre proxying something, which doesn’t add up, as noted above.

yeah what

i'm confused
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 15 February 2018, 04:05:12
Throughout all this juahenza still isn't going on here to respond to anything.
Great job.

I do see he was on a week ago, didn't do anything though
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Thu, 15 February 2018, 09:00:31
literally everything is made, just has to ship to you

not saying that'll happen overnight

but it will probably happen

It will maybe happen?..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 15 February 2018, 09:07:03
Any updates on the premium kits? Been quite a while. Packed? Shipped?

Just give up hope ಠ_ಠ Our money is gone, we should choose our next GB's more carefully.

literally everything is made, just has to ship to you

not saying that'll happen overnight

but it will probably happen

That response gave me absolute confidence. Probably
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Thu, 15 February 2018, 09:29:42
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...

He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 15 February 2018, 09:37:48
How about an update on replacement bottoms and missing stabilizers?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 15 February 2018, 09:42:00
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...

He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.

That's kinda vague, are we talking about just a regular refund where you get your money back instead of the product? Seems like a bit counter productive if so, you've basically loaned them money for a year you're paying interest in the form of the PP fee.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 15 February 2018, 09:53:23
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...

He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.

That's kinda vague, are we talking about just a regular refund where you get your money back instead of the product? Seems like a bit counter productive if so, you've basically loaned them money for a year you're paying interest in the form of the PP fee.

Similar vibes to jchan refunding people that bought the M65-A at retail for $250, then sold the extras/refunded cases later for $430 upwards.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: speedemonv12 on Thu, 15 February 2018, 10:14:24
I have a black exent with small cracks in the polycarbonate bottom and a PCB with one LED working. I wouldn’t mind selling. Anyone interested?


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 15 February 2018, 10:17:08
I have a black exent with small cracks in the polycarbonate bottom and a PCB with one LED working. I wouldn’t mind selling. Anyone interested?


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How much of a discount are we talking about?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 15 February 2018, 11:41:03
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...

I've only run one group buy, but damnit if I didn't keep the participants up to date.  I was even running late by a few weeks during the holiday season (when I wanted everything delivered by) and was having personal problems, but I communicated that, and you know what?  The GB participants were extremely understanding.

****, I even ran out of money and had to sell a set of OG bomb-kings and other cherished artisans to keep funding the buy.   One of the members purchased them and even offered to sell them back to me later on when money was going better.

The point being that communication is key in these situations.  A simple update will go far with participants.  I understand that most of us are at a point where we just want to salvage what we can from this buy, but I feel that the GB runners can turn this around by answering the following. 

From what I read, we are looking for:


I understand the pressure, both in money and time, of running a group buy.  I'm trying to make this as easy as possible for a runner to copy/paste the above and respond.  It would go a long way with the community.  Thank you for running this buy and I hope all can find decent resolution to perceived problems with the buy.   
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Saiph on Thu, 15 February 2018, 11:42:21


That's kinda vague, are we talking about just a regular refund where you get your money back instead of the product? Seems like a bit counter productive if so, you've basically loaned them money for a year you're paying interest in the form of the PP fee.
At the same time, I'm sure some people just want to get out of the GB and recoup what they can.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 15 February 2018, 11:43:41
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...

He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.

That's kinda vague, are we talking about just a regular refund where you get your money back instead of the product? Seems like a bit counter productive if so, you've basically loaned them money for a year you're paying interest in the form of the PP fee.

Similar vibes to jchan refunding people that bought the M65-A at retail for $250, then sold the extras/refunded cases later for $430 upwards.

lmfao
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 15 February 2018, 11:44:11
I have a black exent with small cracks in the polycarbonate bottom and a PCB with one LED working. I wouldn’t mind selling. Anyone interested?


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i might be interested, pm'd for some pics
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 15 February 2018, 12:25:46
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...

He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.

Hm, I'm glad I have a week to think about it. Very tempting to request a refund if that goes through. I'd hate to give up this far into the group buy but due to the lack of info on the Premium kits for the last month and a half I'm getting a little tired of being in the dark with nothing but fading hope and faith that things will work out. I've also been needing a numpad more lately for work and my hobbies, so I'm not sure how much I would use a keyboard that didn't have one.

  • Basic Aluminum Kit Shipping Progress
  • Premium Kit Timeline Information
  • Replacement Poly Bottom Plan and Timeline
  • Faulty PCB Replacement Plan and Timeline
  • Firmware and Programming Guide/Software

Might want to add missing stabilizers to the list. Probably not as important as the first four things on your list, but it sucks having to spend an extra $5-$10 rebuying something.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 15 February 2018, 14:02:57
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...

He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.

Hm, I'm glad I have a week to think about it. Very tempting to request a refund if that goes through. I'd hate to give up this far into the group buy but due to the lack of info on the Premium kits for the last month and a half I'm getting a little tired of being in the dark with nothing but fading hope and faith that things will work out. I've also been needing a numpad more lately for work and my hobbies, so I'm not sure how much I would use a keyboard that didn't have one.

  • Basic Aluminum Kit Shipping Progress
  • Premium Kit Timeline Information
  • Replacement Poly Bottom Plan and Timeline
  • Faulty PCB Replacement Plan and Timeline
  • Firmware and Programming Guide/Software

Might want to add missing stabilizers to the list. Probably not as important as the first four things on your list, but it sucks having to spend an extra $5-$10 rebuying something.


Added, thanks.  In the end, it's not that much to answer for.  I'm hoping we can get some simple straightforward answers from the GB leadership.  As I've said earlier, it looks like a great product, and the GB can still be salvaged if communication starts.  All it takes is checking in once a week, even, and dealing with some questions.   
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Thu, 15 February 2018, 15:24:13
I received a pm of yuktsi containing this:

« All the basics (including the aluminum bottom) are all shipped except for a few of you that involve order transfer and a few of the purple ones »

So I am still waiting for my EXENT which was supposed to ship on monday. Anyone can confirm they received a tracking number for the alu bottom basic exent?

This lack of communication, delay on delay, is very very bad and annoying, this is clearly not how you do business for me :/ .. It was my first GB experience.. hope the other that I joined recently (percent canoe, klippe and ca66 will go smoothly !!)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 15 February 2018, 15:39:24
It was my first GB experience.. hope the other that I joined recently (percent canoe, klippe and ca66 will go smoothly !!)

This is a good one to be your first, all of the other group buys you join will seem so much easier to be a part of
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 15 February 2018, 15:43:06
I received a pm of yuktsi containing this:

« All the basics (including the aluminum bottom) are all shipped except for a few of you that involve order transfer and a few of the purple ones »

So I am still waiting for my EXENT which was supposed to ship on monday. Anyone can confirm they received a tracking number for the alu bottom basic exent?

This lack of communication, delay on delay, is very very bad and annoying, this is clearly not how you do business for me :/ .. It was my first GB experience.. hope the other that I joined recently (percent canoe, klippe and ca66 will go smoothly !!)

Also a basic kit with aluminum bottom.  No tracking, yet.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Thu, 15 February 2018, 15:56:59
I received a pm of yuktsi containing this:

« All the basics (including the aluminum bottom) are all shipped except for a few of you that involve order transfer and a few of the purple ones »

So I am still waiting for my EXENT which was supposed to ship on monday. Anyone can confirm they received a tracking number for the alu bottom basic exent?

This lack of communication, delay on delay, is very very bad and annoying, this is clearly not how you do business for me :/ .. It was my first GB experience.. hope the other that I joined recently (percent canoe, klippe and ca66 will go smoothly !!)

Also a basic kit with aluminum bottom.  No tracking, yet.
Me too, basic with aluminum and no tracking

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Thu, 15 February 2018, 16:04:00
I received a pm of yuktsi containing this:

« All the basics (including the aluminum bottom) are all shipped except for a few of you that involve order transfer and a few of the purple ones »

So I am still waiting for my EXENT which was supposed to ship on monday. Anyone can confirm they received a tracking number for the alu bottom basic exent?

This lack of communication, delay on delay, is very very bad and annoying, this is clearly not how you do business for me :/ .. It was my first GB experience.. hope the other that I joined recently (percent canoe, klippe and ca66 will go smoothly !!)

Also a basic kit with aluminum bottom.  No tracking, yet.
Me too, basic with aluminum and no tracking

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I didn't even receive the pm from yuktsi :(

Update: I got update from yuktsi yesterday. My board should be shipping next week. I think the delay is caused by the CNY.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Thu, 15 February 2018, 16:28:45
Same as above, alu bottom // no tracking. Would be a nice surprise if it just showed up, though.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 15 February 2018, 18:24:49
Got a random DHL notification and package arrived yesterday and I thought, oh, thankfully, finally my EXENT! But nope, it was a ZZ96 that I got from a _terrible_ group buy that went nearly a year over. Even that group buy delivered before EXENT. Still haven't received my EXENT because of some GMK keycaps and switches I _don't want_. This is such awful nonsense.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Fri, 16 February 2018, 06:10:21
GMK keyboards and switches I _don't want_. This is such awful nonsense.
Tell me about it, I only got the premium kit as it seemed great value to get the switches and figured I'd just sell the keycaps. Wish I hadn't bothered now!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Fri, 16 February 2018, 10:03:08
Is it so hard for the GB runners to give a quick update? Haven’t heard any news on premium. It can’t take more than 10 minutes to type something up...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: fuzzbomb on Fri, 16 February 2018, 14:08:48
#Update 2nd January 2018
1. Basic Kit (except gray) all shipped
2. Basic Kit (gray) - all shipped
3. Basic Kit with addons - all shipped
4. Premium Kit going on - shipping

Collecting the anodized aluminum bottom tomorrow. Will update on how it goes.

No update since January 2nd, when juahenza said that premium kits were shipping. This has been a complete disaster.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 16 February 2018, 15:15:01
#Update 2nd January 2018
1. Basic Kit (except gray) all shipped
2. Basic Kit (gray) - all shipped
3. Basic Kit with addons - all shipped
4. Premium Kit going on - shipping

Collecting the anodized aluminum bottom tomorrow. Will update on how it goes.

No update since January 2nd, when juahenza said that premium kits were shipping. This has been a complete disaster.

Has it really been 6 weeks?   :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 16 February 2018, 16:09:03
#Update 2nd January 2018
1. Basic Kit (except gray) all shipped
2. Basic Kit (gray) - all shipped
3. Basic Kit with addons - all shipped
4. Premium Kit going on - shipping

Collecting the anodized aluminum bottom tomorrow. Will update on how it goes.

No update since January 2nd, when juahenza said that premium kits were shipping. This has been a complete disaster.

Has it really been 6 weeks?   :eek:

Hilarious.

You know what was a GB ran well? Jangled's et al. GMK 9009 R2. I know it's only a set of keycaps but goddamn are they on point. My set sitting in my car as we speak, until I get home to put it on my phantom.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 16 February 2018, 16:23:42
You know what was a GB ran well? Jangled's et al. GMK 9009 R2. I know it's only a set of keycaps but goddamn are they on point. My set sitting in my car as we speak, until I get home to put it on my phantom.

UK78 as well. The dude didn't hesitant to spend any of his own money when Paypal held his funds. Board shipped across the ocean in less than a week. I didn't even know that was possible. The experience was insanely smooth. Only complaint is that the PCB and QMK don't always pay nicely together. But maybe it's my fault that my board is bricked. Hoping to get around to desoldering it this weekend and doing some ISP programming.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 16 February 2018, 16:25:50
You know what was a GB ran well? Jangled's et al. GMK 9009 R2. I know it's only a set of keycaps but goddamn are they on point. My set sitting in my car as we speak, until I get home to put it on my phantom.

I'm jealous, and kicking myself, for not picking up 9009, such a gorgeous set
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 16 February 2018, 16:27:44
You know what was a GB ran well? Jangled's et al. GMK 9009 R2. I know it's only a set of keycaps but goddamn are they on point. My set sitting in my car as we speak, until I get home to put it on my phantom.

I'm jealous, and kicking myself, for not picking up 9009, such a gorgeous set

It's the best. Dixiemech has extras that should be coming up soon, you should pick one up (assuming you're US).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 16 February 2018, 16:33:05
No update since January 2nd, when juahenza said that premium kits were shipping. This has been a complete disaster.

Yuktsi's last update regarding the GMK sets was on the 31st, not the 2nd.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2555563#msg2555563

Not saying that's excusable in any way, just saying spreading misinformation is far from optimal/fair not only to them but to the rest of us.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Cerasis on Fri, 16 February 2018, 17:14:59
Has it really been 6 weeks?   :eek:

From him being away from this thread? yes.

The only silver lining here is yuktsi provided some updates in the meantime, this thread would go to the ****ter if we were in the dark for another 6 weeks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 16 February 2018, 22:10:31
You know what was a GB ran well? Jangled's et al. GMK 9009 R2. I know it's only a set of keycaps but goddamn are they on point. My set sitting in my car as we speak, until I get home to put it on my phantom.

I'm jealous, and kicking myself, for not picking up 9009, such a gorgeous set

It's the best. Dixiemech has extras that should be coming up soon, you should pick one up (assuming you're US).

Come and gone.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 16 February 2018, 22:50:18
It's the best. Dixiemech has extras that should be coming up soon, you should pick one up (assuming you're US).
Come and gone.

The M65-A overstock ran me a little dry of funds, and then I went and picked up another keyboard from a local user just because I could still afford rent after the M54-A. I couldn't have justified a keycap set on top of it (I will tell myself to make myself feel better. But I am looking forward to seeing people's 9009 builds.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 17 February 2018, 02:11:12
It's the best. Dixiemech has extras that should be coming up soon, you should pick one up (assuming you're US).
Come and gone.

The M65-A overstock ran me a little dry of funds, and then I went and picked up another keyboard from a local user just because I could still afford rent after the M54-A. I couldn't have justified a keycap set on top of it (I will tell myself to make myself feel better. But I am looking forward to seeing people's 9009 builds.

Well, my guess is it will run again within the year. Early 2019 if nothing else. I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone just started stocking 9009 and every one of its child kits somewhere.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 17 February 2018, 03:25:26
Well, my guess is it will run again within the year. Early 2019 if nothing else. I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone just started stocking 9009 and every one of its child kits somewhere.

What I'm really holding out for, and what I think would look really good on the Exent is SA Jukebox. I saw on MD that they have TaiHao Cubic Jukebox, but I'm not sure how I feel about the cubic profile... It's a pretty cheap set though...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 17 February 2018, 10:52:50
Well, my guess is it will run again within the year. Early 2019 if nothing else. I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone just started stocking 9009 and every one of its child kits somewhere.

What I'm really holding out for, and what I think would look really good on the Exent is SA Jukebox. I saw on MD that they have TaiHao Cubic Jukebox, but I'm not sure how I feel about the cubic profile... It's a pretty cheap set though...

SA jukebox is pretty ****in dope to be sure. I've seen a lot of really cool builds with that set.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: fuzzbomb on Sat, 17 February 2018, 20:57:04
No update since January 2nd, when juahenza said that premium kits were shipping. This has been a complete disaster.

Yuktsi's last update regarding the GMK sets was on the 31st, not the 2nd.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2555563#msg2555563

Not saying that's excusable in any way, just saying spreading misinformation is far from optimal/fair not only to them but to the rest of us.

I don't intend to pick through 47 pages to find sporadic posts. They need to add information to the update section at the front of the thread, that's why it exists. The last update was on January 2nd.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: fuzzbomb on Sat, 17 February 2018, 21:00:17

#Update 9th August 2017

Been awhile since the last update from us. This will serve as the update section, we are committed to updating everyone on a weekly basis.

Hahahahahahahaha.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Cerasis on Sat, 17 February 2018, 21:11:07
I don't intend to pick through 47 pages to find sporadic posts. They need to add information to the update section at the front of the thread, that's why it exists. The last update was on January 2nd.

Yuktsi can't edit Jua's posts. There has been updates but still no excuse for jua being MIA for weeks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sat, 17 February 2018, 21:13:30

#Update 9th August 2017

Been awhile since the last update from us. This will serve as the update section, we are committed to updating everyone on a weekly basis.

Hahahahahahahaha.
imagine ordering a basic poly bottom kit that shipped last year but the gb runners decided it would be a smart idea to ship assembled so your poly bottom is ****ed up and the pcb is disfunctional so even though you should've been the first to have a functioning product you're going to end up being the last. yay.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Sun, 18 February 2018, 05:51:39
 What's the problem with alu-bottom??
please tell us. it has been passed 1week since you promise to updating shipping invoice.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 18 February 2018, 08:26:03
I don't intend to pick through 47 pages to find sporadic posts. They need to add information to the update section at the front of the thread, that's why it exists. The last update was on January 2nd.

The last update given by Juahenza was on January 2nd, I agree that the front page is the best place for updates but if you don't intend to keep up with the thread then there's no point spreading misinformation and FUD. There's plenty of that as it is.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 18 February 2018, 12:02:45
Boy we sure are lucky to have us a white knight in Vigrith!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chuckdee on Sun, 18 February 2018, 12:50:33
Boy we sure are lucky to have us a white knight in Vigrith!

Doesn't seem he's white knighting; if you think that, then you must have a different definition of it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KaosJ on Sun, 18 February 2018, 13:15:34
Ah here we go again  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Sun, 18 February 2018, 13:17:02
I assumed most people like myself just read 'Panca.....' and immediately move on to the next post?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KaosJ on Sun, 18 February 2018, 13:40:52
I assumed most people like myself just read 'Panca.....' and immediately move on to the next post?

The opposite way, i didn't even join the GB and sometimes in the evening i enjoy coming here and check out if there is our dear Pancake 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 18 February 2018, 13:54:04
Boy we sure are lucky to have us a white knight in Vigrith!

Your definition of "white knight" seems warped, I think you spend too much time on the internet. I understand you're upset and trying to instigate again just because I didn't reply to the highly friendly PM you sent me after you got shunned off the thread a few weeks back but there really is no need to try and escalate things publicly. Are you familiar with the term fremdschämen?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 18 February 2018, 13:57:17
Boy we sure are lucky to have us a white knight in Vigrith!

Your definition of "white knight" seems warped, I think you spend too much time on the internet. I understand you're upset and trying to instigate again just because I didn't reply to the highly friendly PM you sent me after you got shunned off the thread a few weeks back but there really is no need to try and escalate things publicly. Are you familiar with the term fremdschämen?

frendsrämen? No I can't say that I'm familiar with that flavor of noodles. I just like watching you constantly blow smoke up the asses of the group buy runners, it's sick I know.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 18 February 2018, 14:01:54
Are you familiar with the term fremdschämen?

fremdschämen? Everything is better with friends.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 18 February 2018, 14:03:06
Are you familiar with the term fremdschämen?

fremdschämen? Everything is better with friends.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 18 February 2018, 14:10:19
Boy we sure are lucky to have us a white knight in Vigrith!

There was only one white knight here, and he stopped when his phone number was added to the bathroom stalls in ****halla.

(Hi DPD!)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 18 February 2018, 14:35:27
Hi DPD!

I stopped when someone compared me to TP4. I realized I had reached an all time internet low. Really hit rock bottom. Spent some time there, did some soul searching, a little meditation, listened to world music and picked myself back up. Got clean. I'm still on the road to recovery, it's a long path, but I think I can make it.

Edit: And let me be clear, do I think the runners are doing a swell job? No, I think they are doing a really poor job. Do I care? No, it literally doesn't matter to me, it doesn't matter how long it takes for the inessential toy I want, that literally has no critical impact to my life whether it is there or not and is just a thing I want, to show up. And I'm still am perfectly happy to continue to wait until I eventually get it.

I feel like less of a White Knight, and more of a Devil's Advocate.

 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 18 February 2018, 14:40:05
I didn't mean to double post!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 18 February 2018, 15:10:56
i can b ur angle or ur devil
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 20 February 2018, 00:21:59
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.

It's typing out like random sequences of numbers and commas. I tried to follow the catweewee guide "firm up" then download, but I can't get it to give me the rows and columns of "bad" anymore.

I can't map anything. I can't get some keys to respond.

Hilariously for some of you I'm sure, I've managed to destroy my exent. This time it's my fault though, but if anyone can give me some help here I would actually appreciate it.

I guess my Exent is shot. Does anyone have a PCB they'd be willing to sell me?

FYI it shows up as ps2avrgb (or whatever), regardless of if I'm shorting the control key or not.


So I don't understand this. For some reason, bootmapper (with toggle bootmapper or whatever clicked) picks up keys. But when I try actually typing with it, like into google for example, it spits out gibberish.

E.g.

QWERTY: .1,13..1,12..1,11..1,10..1,9..1,8.

I'm guessing those are rows/columns, but it would be nice if it could output letters instead.

Also, bootmapper won't pick up the far left column. ESC, and all the other keys below it don't work. Although I've intermittently gotten it to load into bootmapper mode with the LCRTL key held down.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 20 February 2018, 01:08:32
For some reason, bootmapper (with toggle bootmapper or whatever clicked) picks up keys. But when I try actually typing with it, like into google for example, it spits out gibberish.

E.g.

QWERTY: .1,13..1,12..1,11..1,10..1,9..1,8.

This is really ****ty. I don't think it was anything you did. I had a similar issue with my VE.A, the whole bottom row was outputting similar, odd strings of characters. It was after I tried to remap it, I was able to get it working again just by unplugging it from the USB cable, rebooting my computer, and plugging it back in. After which I had to go in an remap a few keys. If you haven't tried that yet it is worth a shot. Seems too simple to work, but it did work for me with Bootmapper. I hope that does work...

Do we know what other PCBs will work with Exent?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 20 February 2018, 01:13:45
For some reason, bootmapper (with toggle bootmapper or whatever clicked) picks up keys. But when I try actually typing with it, like into google for example, it spits out gibberish.

E.g.

QWERTY: .1,13..1,12..1,11..1,10..1,9..1,8.

This is really ****ty. I don't think it was anything you did. I had a similar issue with my VE.A, the whole bottom row was outputting similar, odd strings of characters. It was after I tried to remap it, I was able to get it working again just by unplugging it from the USB cable, rebooting my computer, and plugging it back in. After which I had to go in an remap a few keys. If you haven't tried that yet it is worth a shot. Seems too simple to work, but it did work for me with Bootmapper. I hope that does work...

Do we know what other PCBs will work with Exent?

I've actually had similar things  happen with the Exent, and rebooting and replugging has fixed it. At any rate, really strange results from the keyboard fixed by reboot.

I think the outputting of the column information has to do with bootmapper being toggled on. I can actually get it to type, you know, useful stuff now. Still, left column non functional, no idea why.

And here's the thing: it seems stuck in the function layer. It's not typing on the normal layer and I don't know why.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Tue, 20 February 2018, 01:23:05
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.

It's typing out like random sequences of numbers and commas. I tried to follow the catweewee guide "firm up" then download, but I can't get it to give me the rows and columns of "bad" anymore.

I can't map anything. I can't get some keys to respond.

Hilariously for some of you I'm sure, I've managed to destroy my exent. This time it's my fault though, but if anyone can give me some help here I would actually appreciate it.

I guess my Exent is shot. Does anyone have a PCB they'd be willing to sell me?

FYI it shows up as ps2avrgb (or whatever), regardless of if I'm shorting the control key or not.


So I don't understand this. For some reason, bootmapper (with toggle bootmapper or whatever clicked) picks up keys. But when I try actually typing with it, like into google for example, it spits out gibberish.

E.g.

QWERTY: .1,13..1,12..1,11..1,10..1,9..1,8.

I'm guessing those are rows/columns, but it would be nice if it could output letters instead.

Also, bootmapper won't pick up the far left column. ESC, and all the other keys below it don't work. Although I've intermittently gotten it to load into bootmapper mode with the LCRTL key held down.
Try unplugging/restarting/replugging and bootmapper mode a few times. Also change the language to ENG while in the bootmapper mode if you haven't yet. My b.fake PCB does that sometimes.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 20 February 2018, 01:29:57
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.

It's typing out like random sequences of numbers and commas. I tried to follow the catweewee guide "firm up" then download, but I can't get it to give me the rows and columns of "bad" anymore.

I can't map anything. I can't get some keys to respond.

Hilariously for some of you I'm sure, I've managed to destroy my exent. This time it's my fault though, but if anyone can give me some help here I would actually appreciate it.

I guess my Exent is shot. Does anyone have a PCB they'd be willing to sell me?

FYI it shows up as ps2avrgb (or whatever), regardless of if I'm shorting the control key or not.


So I don't understand this. For some reason, bootmapper (with toggle bootmapper or whatever clicked) picks up keys. But when I try actually typing with it, like into google for example, it spits out gibberish.

E.g.

QWERTY: .1,13..1,12..1,11..1,10..1,9..1,8.

I'm guessing those are rows/columns, but it would be nice if it could output letters instead.

Also, bootmapper won't pick up the far left column. ESC, and all the other keys below it don't work. Although I've intermittently gotten it to load into bootmapper mode with the LCRTL key held down.
Try unplugging/restarting/replugging and bootmapper mode a few times. Also change the language to ENG while in the bootmapper mode if you haven't yet. My b.fake PCB does that sometimes.

I have. So many times.

Shouldn't have taken the ****ing thing apart ffs.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 20 February 2018, 10:31:23
Hilariously for some of you I'm sure, I've managed to destroy my exent. This time it's my fault though, but if anyone can give me some help here I would actually appreciate it.

Hey, man.  Sorry to hear. I don't think it was your fault.  And, truthfully, I don't think many harbor ill-will towards you.  This has been a tough experience for many/most involved, and we all get a case of "keyboard courage."  Hopefully you can get this working.  Take care, pancake.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 20 February 2018, 10:56:42
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.

What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?

That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.

If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 20 February 2018, 11:01:34
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.

What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?

That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.

If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.

Yeah I did a complete desolder. I've done it before on another keyboard and had no issues (other than it always being a complete pain in the ass). I'm very experienced and careful.

I can't identify any missing components. It's conceivable there is residue somewhere, like some solder that got sprayed where it shouldn't have, but it would be under the switches now.

I'm like 99% sure that this problem developed while I was resoldering. I was testing it as I was going and it was working just fine (I think) and then, after some point, it started behaving really weird.

I would really, really love it if you'd be willing to sell me your spare PCB. This keyboard is basically ornamental at this point.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 20 February 2018, 12:11:22
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.

What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?

That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.

If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.

Yeah I did a complete desolder. I've done it before on another keyboard and had no issues (other than it always being a complete pain in the ass). I'm very experienced and careful.

I can't identify any missing components. It's conceivable there is residue somewhere, like some solder that got sprayed where it shouldn't have, but it would be under the switches now.

I'm like 99% sure that this problem developed while I was resoldering. I was testing it as I was going and it was working just fine (I think) and then, after some point, it started behaving really weird.

I would really, really love it if you'd be willing to sell me your spare PCB. This keyboard is basically ornamental at this point.

Let's get a photo of your PCB and see what we can troubleshoot.  I'm doubting you did anything at this point and am guessing that it's the firmware.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 20 February 2018, 12:24:26
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.

What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?

That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.

If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.

Yeah I did a complete desolder. I've done it before on another keyboard and had no issues (other than it always being a complete pain in the ass). I'm very experienced and careful.

I can't identify any missing components. It's conceivable there is residue somewhere, like some solder that got sprayed where it shouldn't have, but it would be under the switches now.

I'm like 99% sure that this problem developed while I was resoldering. I was testing it as I was going and it was working just fine (I think) and then, after some point, it started behaving really weird.

I would really, really love it if you'd be willing to sell me your spare PCB. This keyboard is basically ornamental at this point.

Let's get a photo of your PCB and see what we can troubleshoot.  I'm doubting you did anything at this point and am guessing that it's the firmware.

I'll upload tonight.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Tue, 20 February 2018, 16:33:56
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.

What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?

That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.

If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.

Yeah I did a complete desolder. I've done it before on another keyboard and had no issues (other than it always being a complete pain in the ass). I'm very experienced and careful.

I can't identify any missing components. It's conceivable there is residue somewhere, like some solder that got sprayed where it shouldn't have, but it would be under the switches now.

I'm like 99% sure that this problem developed while I was resoldering. I was testing it as I was going and it was working just fine (I think) and then, after some point, it started behaving really weird.

I would really, really love it if you'd be willing to sell me your spare PCB. This keyboard is basically ornamental at this point.

Let's get a photo of your PCB and see what we can troubleshoot.  I'm doubting you did anything at this point and am guessing that it's the firmware.

I'll upload tonight.

Pretty sure I've had this problem before on a different board based on this firmware and I solved it by getting the latest firmware and bootloader etc from the site. This link should be the latest version I think:

http://blog.winkeyless.kr/222

It's in Korean which I'm assuming you don't speak. My advice would be to use a google translate browser extension to translate it (works out easier than using the actual site imo) assuming you don't already have one. I'm pretty sure I just followed instructions and made sure the date on everything was the latest, may have had one or two issues but I managed to figure them out (it was a while back and I can't really remember exact details I'm afraid). I haven't got my Exent yet so I'm not familiar with any possible specifics however or if it needs a certain version.

Either way I'd give it a crack and if it doesn't work/you can't figure it out if you wait a day or two I'm sure somebody far more knowledgeable than myself will post in here and be able to help you out. I'd be pretty surprised if it does actually turn out to be a hardware issue/something getting knocked off.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 20 February 2018, 19:41:03
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.

What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?

That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.

If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.

Yeah I did a complete desolder. I've done it before on another keyboard and had no issues (other than it always being a complete pain in the ass). I'm very experienced and careful.

I can't identify any missing components. It's conceivable there is residue somewhere, like some solder that got sprayed where it shouldn't have, but it would be under the switches now.

I'm like 99% sure that this problem developed while I was resoldering. I was testing it as I was going and it was working just fine (I think) and then, after some point, it started behaving really weird.

I would really, really love it if you'd be willing to sell me your spare PCB. This keyboard is basically ornamental at this point.

Let's get a photo of your PCB and see what we can troubleshoot.  I'm doubting you did anything at this point and am guessing that it's the firmware.

I'll upload tonight.

Pretty sure I've had this problem before on a different board based on this firmware and I solved it by getting the latest firmware and bootloader etc from the site. This link should be the latest version I think:

http://blog.winkeyless.kr/222

It's in Korean which I'm assuming you don't speak. My advice would be to use a google translate browser extension to translate it (works out easier than using the actual site imo) assuming you don't already have one. I'm pretty sure I just followed instructions and made sure the date on everything was the latest, may have had one or two issues but I managed to figure them out (it was a while back and I can't really remember exact details I'm afraid). I haven't got my Exent yet so I'm not familiar with any possible specifics however or if it needs a certain version.

Either way I'd give it a crack and if it doesn't work/you can't figure it out if you wait a day or two I'm sure somebody far more knowledgeable than myself will post in here and be able to help you out. I'd be pretty surprised if it does actually turn out to be a hardware issue/something getting knocked off.

I'm already using Version 0.10.0.

Where's a link to the latest firmware you're talking about? the ps2avrNRKO or whatever?

I'll get around to uploading a picture of the PCB later, but I'm kinda worried the left column is seriously dead. I have no idea how to check for sure.

The reason I say that is I'm not convinced I'm actually getting the thing into bootloader mode, which requires the left CRTL key to be held down.  Is there any way to beyond a shadow of doubt tell if I'm in bootloader mode? Is there a way of jumping terminals on the MCU to get it into the bootloader?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 21 February 2018, 00:46:21
PCB Picture: https://imgur.com/a/XHy0g

Let me know if I need a better picture.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Wed, 21 February 2018, 03:53:12
PCB Picture: https://imgur.com/a/XHy0g

Let me know if I need a better picture.
Have you tried just cleaning it up with an alcohol wipe? Sometimes I've found just giving it a good clean will resolve strange keymap issues if there's a short somewhere. Also, I saw you mention your issues above, is there a firmware file you can flash to the board at all (I haven't seen the guide, just thinking out loud)? I only ask as I had a FaceW board that was playing me up in similar ways to yours, and it was because I had flashed the wrong firmware so the keys were all over the place.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 21 February 2018, 12:56:20
PCB Picture: https://imgur.com/a/XHy0g

Let me know if I need a better picture.

Picture is good.  Some observations:


From what I see, I'm guessing this is a firmware issue.  I'd finish soldering and give it another go.  Anyone else have any ideas?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:06:32
From all the input he has gave us, it's clearly a firmware issue. The thing here is how to solve it if he cannot access to the bootloader mode.
Have you tried to connect it and put it in bootloader mode with the bootmapper client? If that doesn't work, I think you should be able to re-flash it with ps2avrgb firmware again or even with QMK.

Mine did some strange things too when I tried it before uploading a layout to it and it just needed to be flashed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:07:02
PCB Picture: https://imgur.com/a/XHy0g

Let me know if I need a better picture.

Picture is good.  Some observations:

  • Microcontroller, USB connection, diodes, and pads all look good.
  • Besides the unsoldered switches, soldering looks good and does not interfere with components around it.
  • Today I learned the EXENT supports plate mount switches...
  • No lifted pads or weird traces

From what I see, I'm guessing this is a firmware issue.  I'd finish soldering and give it another go.  Anyone else have any ideas?

Surely EVERY PCB supports plate-mounted switches?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:10:43
In another matter, has anyone noticed that the Exent support lots more layouts than the disclosed when the keyboard was created? You can fill the entire right side of the bottom row with 1x's and combine 1.25x with 1x's as well, not only 1.5x with 1x's. If I remember correctly, you could also put all 1x's in the left side of the bottom row, and for the split space there are more options as well, pretty exciting. Yesterday I did play with it for more than an hour and a half.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:31:26
PCB Picture: https://imgur.com/a/XHy0g

Let me know if I need a better picture.

Picture is good.  Some observations:

  • Microcontroller, USB connection, diodes, and pads all look good.
  • Besides the unsoldered switches, soldering looks good and does not interfere with components around it.
  • Today I learned the EXENT supports plate mount switches...
  • No lifted pads or weird traces

From what I see, I'm guessing this is a firmware issue.  I'd finish soldering and give it another go.  Anyone else have any ideas?

Surely EVERY PCB supports plate-mounted switches?
Indeed, they do.  Unless the PCB somehow doesn't allow a plate...

In another matter, has anyone noticed that the Exent support lots more layouts than the disclosed when the keyboard was created? You can fill the entire right side of the bottom row with 1x's and combine 1.25x with 1x's as well, not only 1.5x with 1x's. If I remember correctly, you could also put all 1x's in the left side of the bottom row, and for the split space there are more options as well, pretty exciting. Yesterday I did play with it for more than an hour and a half.
This may be true, but you'll want to confirm by following the traces.  It's possible that some switch positions aren't supported by the matrix due to overlap.  I've seen this on at least one other board (GH-122).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:43:04
Someone on reddit suggested I follow traces to make sure that all the keys, when pressed, are doing what they are "supposed to."

I have a voltmeter and can test connectivity, I'm just not quite sure what to look for. Can someone advise me on that? Maybe even draw some example test case on my PCB image?

Thanks.

My guess is if I can get the thing actually into bootloader mode, which requires fixing whatever is wrong with the left column, then I can reflash the firmware and get it back to working. Maybe at least.

Is there any way to jump terminals on the microcontroller itself to get it into bootloader mode? Like GND and Reset or something? I can't remember if I've asked that here.

@d.caminero: How would I put it into bootloader mode client side? Or even with QMK or whatever?

Maybe I can try flashing with QMK I dunno. I'll have to try it later.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 21 February 2018, 14:29:04
Someone on reddit suggested I follow traces to make sure that all the keys, when pressed, are doing what they are "supposed to."

I have a voltmeter and can test connectivity, I'm just not quite sure what to look for. Can someone advise me on that? Maybe even draw some example test case on my PCB image?

Thanks.

My guess is if I can get the thing actually into bootloader mode, which requires fixing whatever is wrong with the left column, then I can reflash the firmware and get it back to working. Maybe at least.

Is there any way to jump terminals on the microcontroller itself to get it into bootloader mode? Like GND and Reset or something? I can't remember if I've asked that here.

@d.caminero: How would I put it into bootloader mode client side? Or even with QMK or whatever?

Maybe I can try flashing with QMK I dunno. I'll have to try it later.

I doubt it will help, but here's a nice mini guide to using bootmapper:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0)

Really sucks that the left side of your board is broken; you need a key from that side to put the board into boot mapper mode.

Something interesting about boot mapper mode is that instead of keystrokes it does send out column+row information, which kinda sounds like your issue. But the entire board should be doing that, so it really does sound like your firmware is jacked up.

As far as a way to jump terminals on the microcontroller itself, I would think that would be possible. Toward the bottom left of the PCB when it's face down like that you can see the six pins that you need (https://i.imgur.com/hRj1rBI.png). Unfortunately I'm not familiar with them in that orientation so I'm not sure which ones do what. I would assume the last two are the reset and ground, but I don't like assuming things. If you can find out you can use these with an ISP programmer if necessary to revive the board.

I've never had a pleasant experience with QMK, so I'd carefully consider before trying to flash it. My current QMK-powered board is a brick right now until I can get everything desoldered and ISP program it. For some reason whoever designed the PCB decided to stick the ISP connectors on the top of the PCB and not underneath, so I can't access said connectors with the switch plate on.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 21 February 2018, 14:56:44
Someone on reddit suggested I follow traces to make sure that all the keys, when pressed, are doing what they are "supposed to."

I have a voltmeter and can test connectivity, I'm just not quite sure what to look for. Can someone advise me on that? Maybe even draw some example test case on my PCB image?

Thanks.

My guess is if I can get the thing actually into bootloader mode, which requires fixing whatever is wrong with the left column, then I can reflash the firmware and get it back to working. Maybe at least.

Is there any way to jump terminals on the microcontroller itself to get it into bootloader mode? Like GND and Reset or something? I can't remember if I've asked that here.

@d.caminero: How would I put it into bootloader mode client side? Or even with QMK or whatever?

Maybe I can try flashing with QMK I dunno. I'll have to try it later.

Something interesting about boot mapper mode is that instead of keystrokes it does send out column+row information, which kinda sounds like your issue. But the entire board should be doing that, so it really does sound like your firmware is jacked up.


Right that's what it's doing, just...the left column doesn't work. So maybe I'm stuck in bootloader mode? In which case we're trying to figure out how to get out of it, not into it. Maybe the left column is working and just locked on or something I dunno.

****.

I'm gonna desolder, which will have to wait till this weekend. See if that fixes the problem. If not, then try and get it working with nothing mounted to it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 21 February 2018, 15:01:41
PCB Picture: https://imgur.com/a/XHy0g

Let me know if I need a better picture.

Picture is good.  Some observations:

  • Microcontroller, USB connection, diodes, and pads all look good.
  • Besides the unsoldered switches, soldering looks good and does not interfere with components around it.
  • Today I learned the EXENT supports plate mount switches...
  • No lifted pads or weird traces

From what I see, I'm guessing this is a firmware issue.  I'd finish soldering and give it another go.  Anyone else have any ideas?

Surely EVERY PCB supports plate-mounted switches?

Correction... I meant PCB.  lol.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Wed, 21 February 2018, 15:08:16
Hey so in all seriousness I had to disassemble my exent and now I can't get it working again.

What all was involved in your disassembly? Did you desolder some things? Is it possible there's residue somewhere, or that you knocked off a diode or something?

That really sucks. My only custom board is a UK78 and the PCB on it is pretty fragile too as far as firmware. If the same goes for the Exent that's really not gonna be cool. Kinda sucks the joy out of a custom board.

If the rumor about refunds is false, if/when I eventually get my shipment, and assuming both of my PCBs are in working order I might be willing to sell you my extra PCB. I was planning on building another board with a handmade case but I don't have an extra plate, so that's going to be a bit challenging to create or get my hands on. It's likely something I wouldn't follow through with doing.

Yeah I did a complete desolder. I've done it before on another keyboard and had no issues (other than it always being a complete pain in the ass). I'm very experienced and careful.

I can't identify any missing components. It's conceivable there is residue somewhere, like some solder that got sprayed where it shouldn't have, but it would be under the switches now.

I'm like 99% sure that this problem developed while I was resoldering. I was testing it as I was going and it was working just fine (I think) and then, after some point, it started behaving really weird.

I would really, really love it if you'd be willing to sell me your spare PCB. This keyboard is basically ornamental at this point.

Let's get a photo of your PCB and see what we can troubleshoot.  I'm doubting you did anything at this point and am guessing that it's the firmware.

I'll upload tonight.

Pretty sure I've had this problem before on a different board based on this firmware and I solved it by getting the latest firmware and bootloader etc from the site. This link should be the latest version I think:

http://blog.winkeyless.kr/222

It's in Korean which I'm assuming you don't speak. My advice would be to use a google translate browser extension to translate it (works out easier than using the actual site imo) assuming you don't already have one. I'm pretty sure I just followed instructions and made sure the date on everything was the latest, may have had one or two issues but I managed to figure them out (it was a while back and I can't really remember exact details I'm afraid). I haven't got my Exent yet so I'm not familiar with any possible specifics however or if it needs a certain version.

Either way I'd give it a crack and if it doesn't work/you can't figure it out if you wait a day or two I'm sure somebody far more knowledgeable than myself will post in here and be able to help you out. I'd be pretty surprised if it does actually turn out to be a hardware issue/something getting knocked off.

I'm already using Version 0.10.0.

Where's a link to the latest firmware you're talking about? the ps2avrNRKO or whatever?

I'll get around to uploading a picture of the PCB later, but I'm kinda worried the left column is seriously dead. I have no idea how to check for sure.

The reason I say that is I'm not convinced I'm actually getting the thing into bootloader mode, which requires the left CRTL key to be held down.  Is there any way to beyond a shadow of doubt tell if I'm in bootloader mode? Is there a way of jumping terminals on the MCU to get it into the bootloader?

I'm guessing that's supposed to be a version after 0.9.0? Just seems a weird name to give it as I'd interpret that the same as 0.1.0, also I can't see that version on Winkeyless' (Hojin) site who I believe is the creator if I'm not mistaken?

Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)

This has a short description of it http://blog.winkeyless.kr/153 (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/153)

This is the Bootmapper client that goes with it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3bn9flirkb49ahz/BootMapperClient.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3bn9flirkb49ahz/BootMapperClient.zip?dl=0)

Description page: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/154 (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/154)

How to use bootmapper page: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/154 (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/154)

I'd suggest having a browse around winkeyless' site if there is other information you need

Jumping terminals etc is probably above my pay grade and I have no doubt there are other people on here that are far more knowledgeable about that sort of thing, so I'd rather leave that kind of stuff to them I'm afraid.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 21 February 2018, 15:09:35
Someone on reddit suggested I follow traces to make sure that all the keys, when pressed, are doing what they are "supposed to."

I have a voltmeter and can test connectivity, I'm just not quite sure what to look for. Can someone advise me on that? Maybe even draw some example test case on my PCB image?

Thanks.

My guess is if I can get the thing actually into bootloader mode, which requires fixing whatever is wrong with the left column, then I can reflash the firmware and get it back to working. Maybe at least.

Is there any way to jump terminals on the microcontroller itself to get it into bootloader mode? Like GND and Reset or something? I can't remember if I've asked that here.

@d.caminero: How would I put it into bootloader mode client side? Or even with QMK or whatever?

Maybe I can try flashing with QMK I dunno. I'll have to try it later.

I doubt it will help, but here's a nice mini guide to using bootmapper:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58945.0)

Really sucks that the left side of your board is broken; you need a key from that side to put the board into boot mapper mode.

Something interesting about boot mapper mode is that instead of keystrokes it does send out column+row information, which kinda sounds like your issue. But the entire board should be doing that, so it really does sound like your firmware is jacked up.

As far as a way to jump terminals on the microcontroller itself, I would think that would be possible. Toward the bottom left of the PCB when it's face down like that you can see the six pins that you need (https://i.imgur.com/hRj1rBI.png). Unfortunately I'm not familiar with them in that orientation so I'm not sure which ones do what. I would assume the last two are the reset and ground, but I don't like assuming things. If you can find out you can use these with an ISP programmer if necessary to revive the board.

I've never had a pleasant experience with QMK, so I'd carefully consider before trying to flash it. My current QMK-powered board is a brick right now until I can get everything desoldered and ISP program it. For some reason whoever designed the PCB decided to stick the ISP connectors on the top of the PCB and not underneath, so I can't access said connectors with the switch plate on.

The label starts at the square pin and is labelled as ICSP01, so that should be the #1 pin.  If there are any active GB leaders here, or others that have run into initiating bootloader mode, they could confirm.

I still don't think this is a physical issue.  It sounds like a firmware issue.  As long as you can find a way to get into bootloader mode, you should be able to erase/load the memory.  I don't understand why all PCB designers don't have a small button for that can be used to get into bootloader mode instead of using jumps?  The switch part is not expensive and it only takes two leads to bridge the pins you need.

PLease report back with what you find!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 21 February 2018, 15:15:25


The label starts at the square pin and is labelled as ICSP01, so that should be the #1 pin.  If there are any active GB leaders here, or others that have run into initiating bootloader mode, they could confirm.

I still don't think this is a physical issue.  It sounds like a firmware issue.  As long as you can find a way to get into bootloader mode, you should be able to erase/load the memory.  I don't understand why all PCB designers don't have a small button for that can be used to get into bootloader mode instead of using jumps?  The switch part is not expensive and it only takes two leads to bridge the pins you need.

PLease report back with what you find!

That's what I figured, but then I also found this: https://imgur.com/a/VP6bX

At this point I'm not sure what I think. I think it is as likely that I've got the keyboard stuck in bootloader mode as not, because the symptoms are indicative of being stuck in bootloader mode (typing out row/col information). If I'm stuck in bootloader mode, I should be able to flash and reprogram and clear the EEPROM and etc, but I can't. Or I can, e.g. I can install firmware according to the bootmapper client, but it doesn't fix anything.

I don't know how to test if the left column is broken in some way, like not sending signals, or if the firmware side of things isn't picking them up. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 21 February 2018, 15:44:13
My guess is you're shorting the bootloader key, which is the "top left key in the matrix". I can check tonight, but it'd likely be ESC or l_ctrl.

Control has so many pads, I'd check there first. Have a multimeter?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 21 February 2018, 16:48:23
My guess is you're shorting the bootloader key, which is the "top left key in the matrix". I can check tonight, but it'd likely be ESC or l_ctrl.

Control has so many pads, I'd check there first. Have a multimeter?

Yeah I've got a multimeter. What am I looking for? It's supposed to be LCRTL for the Exent, as far as Catweewee's guide says.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 21 February 2018, 17:27:30
Put it in continuity mode and see if the upper and lower pins show continuity. Without the switch depressed, they shouldn't.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 21 February 2018, 19:04:24
Put it in continuity mode and see if the upper and lower pins show continuity. Without the switch depressed, they shouldn't.

Upper and lower pins...I want to be certain I'm doing the right thing. Can you circle on my PCB image what I need to be checking continuity between?

Oh wait I read that wrong. I'm pretty sure I know what you mean. I already have checked that, no continuity error on any switch.

I just rechecked every one of them. No shorted switches. What else can I look for?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 21 February 2018, 19:25:39


Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)


Which one of those zip files? And split or not split?

Couple new pieces of information.

- From the third zip file in the link in that quote, firming my pcb up with the ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex file breaks the exent so badly I have to restart my computer for even my other keyboard to start working again.

- Reflashed exent with the firmware in the Exent-bootmapper-master folder given to us by catweewee. Back to mostly broken but not computer-breaking order.

- Realized that when I plug the exent in to my compute, it outputs the ESC key. Actually it outputs the row/col data for the escape key, but basically when I plug the Exent in it thinks the escape key is pressed down.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Thu, 22 February 2018, 07:32:59
@Pancake: Try this please.


You can also try to change ESC, TAB, etc. keys to just letters and open a notepad before connecting the board to see if it sends the keycodes when plugged in. I remember that happened to me once, but a reflash solved that.

Reading your last messages, it kind of seems you are shorting somehow the keys to put it in bootmapper mode, so toggle-in out of it with the bootmapper client should get your keyboard out of that state.

Hope this helps man
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 22 February 2018, 10:24:04


Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)


Which one of those zip files? And split or not split?

Couple new pieces of information.

- From the third zip file in the link in that quote, firming my pcb up with the ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex file breaks the exent so badly I have to restart my computer for even my other keyboard to start working again.

- Reflashed exent with the firmware in the Exent-bootmapper-master folder given to us by catweewee. Back to mostly broken but not computer-breaking order.

- Realized that when I plug the exent in to my compute, it outputs the ESC key. Actually it outputs the row/col data for the escape key, but basically when I plug the Exent in it thinks the escape key is pressed down.

Check that key for a short.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 22 February 2018, 11:04:41


Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)


Which one of those zip files? And split or not split?

Couple new pieces of information.

- From the third zip file in the link in that quote, firming my pcb up with the ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex file breaks the exent so badly I have to restart my computer for even my other keyboard to start working again.

- Reflashed exent with the firmware in the Exent-bootmapper-master folder given to us by catweewee. Back to mostly broken but not computer-breaking order.

- Realized that when I plug the exent in to my compute, it outputs the ESC key. Actually it outputs the row/col data for the escape key, but basically when I plug the Exent in it thinks the escape key is pressed down.

I'd go for GB first, which it sounds like you already did, then GB4U. Not split.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 22 February 2018, 11:41:35


Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)


Which one of those zip files? And split or not split?

Couple new pieces of information.

- From the third zip file in the link in that quote, firming my pcb up with the ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex file breaks the exent so badly I have to restart my computer for even my other keyboard to start working again.

- Reflashed exent with the firmware in the Exent-bootmapper-master folder given to us by catweewee. Back to mostly broken but not computer-breaking order.

- Realized that when I plug the exent in to my compute, it outputs the ESC key. Actually it outputs the row/col data for the escape key, but basically when I plug the Exent in it thinks the escape key is pressed down.

I'd go for GB first, which it sounds like you already did, then GB4U. Not split.

The GB version I tried completely broke everything. I'll try the others, see what the do.


- ESC key is not shorted.

- I'll try other suggestions over the weekend
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 22 February 2018, 12:24:14


Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)


Which one of those zip files? And split or not split?

Couple new pieces of information.

- From the third zip file in the link in that quote, firming my pcb up with the ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex file breaks the exent so badly I have to restart my computer for even my other keyboard to start working again.

- Reflashed exent with the firmware in the Exent-bootmapper-master folder given to us by catweewee. Back to mostly broken but not computer-breaking order.

- Realized that when I plug the exent in to my compute, it outputs the ESC key. Actually it outputs the row/col data for the escape key, but basically when I plug the Exent in it thinks the escape key is pressed down.

I'd go for GB first, which it sounds like you already did, then GB4U. Not split.

The GB version I tried completely broke everything. I'll try the others, see what the do.


- ESC key is not shorted.

- I'll try other suggestions over the weekend

Yeh I'd try from bottom upwards basically. What controller does it use exactly? I'm assuming one of the megas? Might be worth speaking to the guy who made EasyAVR in this thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0), seems to be really knowledgeable and helpful. Also, would it not be possible to just use flip and reload/use a different firmware?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 22 February 2018, 13:14:44
...

...

...

You guys have any news? The last thing we heard was almost two weeks ago about "most" of the aluminum basic kits shipping out, and that invoices were going to be updated. How is that coming along? We're still completely in the dark about the Premium kits as well, and have been for nearly a month. A solid timeline and thorough explanation to what has and is happening would be incredibly appreciated.

Last we've seen from Juahenza was January 2nd. Seven weeks of absence and counting is a bit concerning. Is he still running the GB? Does he have any info for us?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 22 February 2018, 13:16:57


Anyway, I think this should be the firmware you want https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0 (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)


Which one of those zip files? And split or not split?

Couple new pieces of information.

- From the third zip file in the link in that quote, firming my pcb up with the ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex file breaks the exent so badly I have to restart my computer for even my other keyboard to start working again.

- Reflashed exent with the firmware in the Exent-bootmapper-master folder given to us by catweewee. Back to mostly broken but not computer-breaking order.

- Realized that when I plug the exent in to my compute, it outputs the ESC key. Actually it outputs the row/col data for the escape key, but basically when I plug the Exent in it thinks the escape key is pressed down.

I'd go for GB first, which it sounds like you already did, then GB4U. Not split.

The GB version I tried completely broke everything. I'll try the others, see what the do.


- ESC key is not shorted.

- I'll try other suggestions over the weekend

Yeh I'd try from bottom upwards basically. What controller does it use exactly? I'm assuming one of the megas? Might be worth speaking to the guy who made EasyAVR in this thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0), seems to be really knowledgeable and helpful. Also, would it not be possible to just use flip and reload/use a different firmware?

Atmega32AU I believe? I'll send that guy a message.  I don't know how to use flip.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Katanadog on Thu, 22 February 2018, 15:18:42
Has anyone with the alu bottoms gotten a tracking number?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Thu, 22 February 2018, 15:23:13
Has anyone with the alu bottoms gotten a tracking number?
I certainly haven't

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 22 February 2018, 15:33:48
Has anyone with the alu bottoms gotten a tracking number?
I certainly haven't

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Neither have I.  Keeping fingers crossed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Thu, 22 February 2018, 15:35:02
Nothing for me either, patience is running out at this point. Been so long without an update on something already made...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Thu, 22 February 2018, 16:01:06
No tracking here either. Hope this doesn't turn into another Smart68 situation.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Thu, 22 February 2018, 16:33:04


Atmega32AU I believe? I'll send that guy a message.  I don't know how to use flip.

Pancake, have you tried any of this?

@Pancake: Try this please.

  • Disconnect your Exent if connected
  • Open EK switch hitter or some kind of program like that to identify keypresses
  • Connect your Exent and see if switch hitter receives ESC, TAB, Block Mayus, Left Shift, etc
  • Write that down and give us the results. Then open Bootmapper client, last version
  • Go here ( https://meckeyalpha.com/pages/guide-on-bootmapper-client#remap ) and follow the steps in Bootmapper Mode.
  • When hitting the keys while in bootmapper mode, see if the ESC, TAB, etc keys register properly (as in highlighting the correct position) or do anything else. Compare it with the other keys and post results. Screen caps if possible
  • Upload a new layout, even if it's just random rubbish
  • Make sure to uncheck the togge bootmapper mode after uploading it
  • Disconnect the board and repeat the first 4 steps

You can also try to change ESC, TAB, etc. keys to just letters and open a notepad before connecting the board to see if it sends the keycodes when plugged in. I remember that happened to me once, but a reflash solved that.

Reading your last messages, it kind of seems you are shorting somehow the keys to put it in bootmapper mode, so toggle-in out of it with the bootmapper client should get your keyboard out of that state.

Hope this helps man
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lzlzh035 on Thu, 22 February 2018, 16:34:43
No tracking here either. Hope this doesn't turn into another Smart68 situation.

What situation was that?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 22 February 2018, 16:55:18


Atmega32AU I believe? I'll send that guy a message.  I don't know how to use flip.

Pancake, have you tried any of this?

@Pancake: Try this please.

  • Disconnect your Exent if connected
  • Open EK switch hitter or some kind of program like that to identify keypresses
  • Connect your Exent and see if switch hitter receives ESC, TAB, Block Mayus, Left Shift, etc
  • Write that down and give us the results. Then open Bootmapper client, last version
  • Go here ( https://meckeyalpha.com/pages/guide-on-bootmapper-client#remap ) and follow the steps in Bootmapper Mode.
  • When hitting the keys while in bootmapper mode, see if the ESC, TAB, etc keys register properly (as in highlighting the correct position) or do anything else. Compare it with the other keys and post results. Screen caps if possible
  • Upload a new layout, even if it's just random rubbish
  • Make sure to uncheck the togge bootmapper mode after uploading it
  • Disconnect the board and repeat the first 4 steps

You can also try to change ESC, TAB, etc. keys to just letters and open a notepad before connecting the board to see if it sends the keycodes when plugged in. I remember that happened to me once, but a reflash solved that.

Reading your last messages, it kind of seems you are shorting somehow the keys to put it in bootmapper mode, so toggle-in out of it with the bootmapper client should get your keyboard out of that state.

Hope this helps man

Not yet. I'll probably get around to it this evening sometime.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Thu, 22 February 2018, 16:56:13


Atmega32AU I believe? I'll send that guy a message.  I don't know how to use flip.

Pancake, have you tried any of this?

@Pancake: Try this please.

  • Disconnect your Exent if connected
  • Open EK switch hitter or some kind of program like that to identify keypresses
  • Connect your Exent and see if switch hitter receives ESC, TAB, Block Mayus, Left Shift, etc
  • Write that down and give us the results. Then open Bootmapper client, last version
  • Go here ( https://meckeyalpha.com/pages/guide-on-bootmapper-client#remap ) and follow the steps in Bootmapper Mode.
  • When hitting the keys while in bootmapper mode, see if the ESC, TAB, etc keys register properly (as in highlighting the correct position) or do anything else. Compare it with the other keys and post results. Screen caps if possible
  • Upload a new layout, even if it's just random rubbish
  • Make sure to uncheck the togge bootmapper mode after uploading it
  • Disconnect the board and repeat the first 4 steps

You can also try to change ESC, TAB, etc. keys to just letters and open a notepad before connecting the board to see if it sends the keycodes when plugged in. I remember that happened to me once, but a reflash solved that.

Reading your last messages, it kind of seems you are shorting somehow the keys to put it in bootmapper mode, so toggle-in out of it with the bootmapper client should get your keyboard out of that state.

Hope this helps man

+1 this is a sensible troubleshooting step
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Thu, 22 February 2018, 17:45:06
No tracking here either. Hope this doesn't turn into another Smart68 situation.

What situation was that?

A GB from last year. Half the people got their boards, the other half, well, they never did. The GB runner has been MIA ever since. You can guess which group I fall into.

I've not had any other interactions with the runners of this GB, but it seems their reputations are quite strong around here so I'm not entirely worried.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 22 February 2018, 20:09:08


Atmega32AU I believe? I'll send that guy a message.  I don't know how to use flip.

Pancake, have you tried any of this?

@Pancake: Try this please.

  • Disconnect your Exent if connected
  • Open EK switch hitter or some kind of program like that to identify keypresses
  • Connect your Exent and see if switch hitter receives ESC, TAB, Block Mayus, Left Shift, etc
  • Write that down and give us the results. Then open Bootmapper client, last version
  • Go here ( https://meckeyalpha.com/pages/guide-on-bootmapper-client#remap ) and follow the steps in Bootmapper Mode.
  • When hitting the keys while in bootmapper mode, see if the ESC, TAB, etc keys register properly (as in highlighting the correct position) or do anything else. Compare it with the other keys and post results. Screen caps if possible
  • Upload a new layout, even if it's just random rubbish
  • Make sure to uncheck the togge bootmapper mode after uploading it
  • Disconnect the board and repeat the first 4 steps

You can also try to change ESC, TAB, etc. keys to just letters and open a notepad before connecting the board to see if it sends the keycodes when plugged in. I remember that happened to me once, but a reflash solved that.

Reading your last messages, it kind of seems you are shorting somehow the keys to put it in bootmapper mode, so toggle-in out of it with the bootmapper client should get your keyboard out of that state.

Hope this helps man

So I've effectively done this. I tested it a little bit just now and it confirms the results I've gotten before.

- On plugging in the keyboard, it outputs the row/col info for the ESC key (0,.14 or something). EK picks this up, meaning specifically it picks up that "0", ",",".","1","4" were "pressed."

- Toggling bootmapper off sort of lets me type normally. Like pressing "q" gives me an actual q, not row/col. My guess is EK would pick this up.

- I can in fact download and upload layouts from and to the exent, and typing confirms this. For example I can map "q" to the number "1," and type it out.

- Unplugging then plugging it back in puts me back into the row/col output state, but does retain the programmed layout.

- Left column remains unresponsive.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dohmain on Thu, 22 February 2018, 20:28:51
o
- Left column remains unresponsive.

Hey, I just completed a repair of someone's EXENT PCB with a non-responsive left column.

https://imgur.com/a/rAk4a

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 22 February 2018, 21:05:14
o
- Left column remains unresponsive.

Hey, I just completed a repair of someone's EXENT PCB with a non-responsive left column.

https://imgur.com/a/rAk4a

No ****. I've got pins that look similar on mine. I'm definitely gonna look into this.

Sadly, I don't think that's my problem. I'll touch up the joints anyway but I think contact is good everywhere on the MCU.

How did you end up discovering that?  Were you just looking at the microcontroller and saw the bad joints or did you somehow trace something back to that?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dohmain on Thu, 22 February 2018, 21:29:34
o
- Left column remains unresponsive.

Hey, I just completed a repair of someone's EXENT PCB with a non-responsive left column.

https://imgur.com/a/rAk4a

No ****. I've got pins that look similar on mine. I'm definitely gonna look into this.

Sadly, I don't think that's my problem. I'll touch up the joints anyway but I think contact is good everywhere on the MCU.

How did you end up discovering that?  Were you just looking at the microcontroller and saw the bad joints or did you somehow trace something back to that?

I started following the trace from the end of the column. Test for continuity at every via all the way up to the MCU. When I got to the MCU I noticed the lack of soldering and I didn't have any continuity at the pin, but had continuity if I probed the pad right in front of the pin.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 22 February 2018, 21:44:07
o
- Left column remains unresponsive.

Hey, I just completed a repair of someone's EXENT PCB with a non-responsive left column.

https://imgur.com/a/rAk4a

No ****. I've got pins that look similar on mine. I'm definitely gonna look into this.

Sadly, I don't think that's my problem. I'll touch up the joints anyway but I think contact is good everywhere on the MCU.

How did you end up discovering that?  Were you just looking at the microcontroller and saw the bad joints or did you somehow trace something back to that?

I started following the trace from the end of the column. Test for continuity at every via all the way up to the MCU. When I got to the MCU I noticed the lack of soldering and I didn't have any continuity at the pin, but had continuity if I probed the pad right in front of the pin.

I sort of understand what you just said but it would be a huge, huge favor if you could draw on the picture of my PCB a path of vias I should be testing along. It would really help me out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dohmain on Thu, 22 February 2018, 21:57:36
o
- Left column remains unresponsive.

Hey, I just completed a repair of someone's EXENT PCB with a non-responsive left column.

https://imgur.com/a/rAk4a

No ****. I've got pins that look similar on mine. I'm definitely gonna look into this.

Sadly, I don't think that's my problem. I'll touch up the joints anyway but I think contact is good everywhere on the MCU.

How did you end up discovering that?  Were you just looking at the microcontroller and saw the bad joints or did you somehow trace something back to that?

I started following the trace from the end of the column. Test for continuity at every via all the way up to the MCU. When I got to the MCU I noticed the lack of soldering and I didn't have any continuity at the pin, but had continuity if I probed the pad right in front of the pin.

I sort of understand what you just said but it would be a huge, huge favor if you could draw on the picture of my PCB a path of vias I should be testing along. It would really help me out.

Not that I don't want to help you out... but I've already packed everything up to ship. Also, I don't want to follow the traces again.

I assume you have a multimeter handy. Put that in continuity test mode and put one end to the column pin on the LCTRL position. From there just follow the trace to the next via and check for continuity. Vias are there to continue the circuit on to the other side of the board so look on the other side of the board and follow the trace from the same via to the next. And so on.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Fri, 23 February 2018, 04:11:04

So I've effectively done this. I tested it a little bit just now and it confirms the results I've gotten before.

- On plugging in the keyboard, it outputs the row/col info for the ESC key (0,.14 or something). EK picks this up, meaning specifically it picks up that "0", ",",".","1","4" were "pressed."

- Toggling bootmapper off sort of lets me type normally. Like pressing "q" gives me an actual q, not row/col. My guess is EK would pick this up.

- I can in fact download and upload layouts from and to the exent, and typing confirms this. For example I can map "q" to the number "1," and type it out.

- Unplugging then plugging it back in puts me back into the row/col output state, but does retain the programmed layout.

- Left column remains unresponsive.

I can't be 100% sure, but this means to me that there's a short anywhere in the left column, thus putting it in bootmapper mode when plugged in, since you press the LCTRL when pluggin in to put it in bootmapper mode.

The left column was unresponsive at every stage of the troubleshooting? Even in the bootmapper client?

Also, to check continuity you need to put one terminal on a pad of a switch and the other terminal on a pad that should be at the end of the (visible) trace. There are some traces than go to a little hole, that's a via. It's only proposit is to follow the path to the other side of the board, so check connectivity at the via and the flip the PCB to continue. I can't provide a pic now, but I'll try this weekend.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 23 February 2018, 09:45:02
o
- Left column remains unresponsive.

Hey, I just completed a repair of someone's EXENT PCB with a non-responsive left column.

https://imgur.com/a/rAk4a

Wow.  Trying to stay positive about this GB until I get my board, but this news is worrisome.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 23 February 2018, 12:20:34

So I've effectively done this. I tested it a little bit just now and it confirms the results I've gotten before.

- On plugging in the keyboard, it outputs the row/col info for the ESC key (0,.14 or something). EK picks this up, meaning specifically it picks up that "0", ",",".","1","4" were "pressed."

- Toggling bootmapper off sort of lets me type normally. Like pressing "q" gives me an actual q, not row/col. My guess is EK would pick this up.

- I can in fact download and upload layouts from and to the exent, and typing confirms this. For example I can map "q" to the number "1," and type it out.

- Unplugging then plugging it back in puts me back into the row/col output state, but does retain the programmed layout.

- Left column remains unresponsive.

I can't be 100% sure, but this means to me that there's a short anywhere in the left column, thus putting it in bootmapper mode when plugged in, since you press the LCTRL when pluggin in to put it in bootmapper mode.

The left column was unresponsive at every stage of the troubleshooting? Even in the bootmapper client?

Also, to check continuity you need to put one terminal on a pad of a switch and the other terminal on a pad that should be at the end of the (visible) trace. There are some traces than go to a little hole, that's a via. It's only proposit is to follow the path to the other side of the board, so check connectivity at the via and the flip the PCB to continue. I can't provide a pic now, but I'll try this weekend.

k. I'm gonna disassemble today.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Fri, 23 February 2018, 19:55:46
Few days short of 3 months in to the year. Any ****ing news on the basic+alu bottom shipments or what's going on guys?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 23 February 2018, 23:09:25
Yo so, I took my Exent apart. I.e. desoldered it again. PCB went back to working. I've no resoldered all the switches in and am currently typing on it.

So, fixed. **** knows what happened, probably a short somewhere like everyone was saying.

Anyway, thanks for the help though, much appreciated the advice.

Oh PS XDA Canvas looks absolutely incredible on it. I though ashen would be perfect for it but these might be even better.

https://imgur.com/a/q0p03
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Sat, 24 February 2018, 00:31:58
Yo so, I took my Exent apart. I.e. desoldered it again. PCB went back to working. I've no resoldered all the switches in and am currently typing on it.

So, fixed. **** knows what happened, probably a short somewhere like everyone was saying.

Anyway, thanks for the help though, much appreciated the advice.

Oh PS XDA Canvas looks absolutely incredible on it. I though ashen would be perfect for it but these might be even better.

https://imgur.com/a/q0p03

Looks great!  Glad you are up and working.  Woot!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 24 February 2018, 13:14:50
Yo so, I took my Exent apart. I.e. desoldered it again. PCB went back to working. I've no resoldered all the switches in and am currently typing on it.

Oh man, I am really glad you got it working, sorry it was such a ****ing hassle. Really loving the Canvas set on it as well, gorgeous board!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 24 February 2018, 13:39:20
Yo so, I took my Exent apart. I.e. desoldered it again. PCB went back to working. I've no resoldered all the switches in and am currently typing on it.

Oh man, I am really glad you got it working, sorry it was such a ****ing hassle. Really loving the Canvas set on it as well, gorgeous board!

Yeah it was a real bastard. Lotta stress thinking I might have a dead PCB and no easy way of replacing it if it comes to that...

But yeah it's purring like a kitty now, green across the board.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sat, 24 February 2018, 18:30:56
It's pretty infuriating that Yuktsi is so active in the tgr910 thread and ignoring simple questions in this one.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 24 February 2018, 18:47:10
Infuriating indeed. Makes me want to PM him to simply get an update or even hijack the thread. But that's rude and in the grand scheme of things two weeks of silence isn't terrible. I really hope patience pays off.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sat, 24 February 2018, 19:03:07
It's pretty infuriating that Yuktsi is so active in the tgr910 thread and ignoring simple questions in this one.

Now if the actual group buy runner would go on here that'd be great too. 2 months MIA lmao
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 24 February 2018, 19:22:54
Now if the actual group buy runner would go on here that'd be great too. 2 months MIA lmao

That'd be the best case scenario indeed. I mean I'm sure Sherry could provide us with an update regarding the GMK sets/switches and their shipping, as could Yuktsi far as the aluminium bottoms and their tracking, but the core of the issue really is the fact that Juahenza has Houdini'd again.

Be nice to hear anything at all, though. Kinda boring to sit and wait for sets that were produced like 5 months ago and a bunch of literal gateron blacks that are completely and entirely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Sun, 25 February 2018, 16:14:54
Yo so, I took my Exent apart. I.e. desoldered it again. PCB went back to working. I've no resoldered all the switches in and am currently typing on it.

So, fixed. **** knows what happened, probably a short somewhere like everyone was saying.

Anyway, thanks for the help though, much appreciated the advice.

Oh PS XDA Canvas looks absolutely incredible on it. I though ashen would be perfect for it but these might be even better.

https://imgur.com/a/q0p03

Very glad to hear you have a working PCB again :) Something was shorted on the left column definitely hahah
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Sun, 25 February 2018, 19:12:07
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...

He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.

PP refund randomly came in today :thumb: I haven't heard from juanhenza since that PM though. Good luck everyone else stuck here...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Sun, 25 February 2018, 19:16:54
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...

He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.

PP refund randomly came in today :thumb: I haven't heard from juanhenza since that PM though. Good luck everyone else stuck here...
To be honest I'd rather get my board, but either way I'd just like to know what's going on.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 25 February 2018, 19:35:26
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...

He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.

PP refund randomly came in today :thumb: I haven't heard from juanhenza since that PM though. Good luck everyone else stuck here...

Frankly, after a year of financing the production of this board to "merely" receive a refund and then for them to turn around and sell them for more on Oco? I'd be highly pissed.

On a seperate note, I've been thinking about buying a newer larger 3d printer. If I got one big enough to print an EXENT bottom would there be any interest in a replacement printed 3d bottom?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 25 February 2018, 20:04:04
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...

He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.

PP refund randomly came in today :thumb: I haven't heard from juanhenza since that PM though. Good luck everyone else stuck here...

Curious, when did he send you that first DM?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 25 February 2018, 20:26:24
So I just got a PM from Juanhenza...

He said that any GB participants who's kits have not shipped by Feb 22, 2018 (GB payment deadline 1 year anniversary) will have the option of receiving a refund. Holy crap! Good news! Unfortunately the PayPal fee portion of your payment will not be refunded though. So there's one down side.

PP refund randomly came in today :thumb: I haven't heard from juanhenza since that PM though. Good luck everyone else stuck here...

Frankly, after a year of financing the production of this board to "merely" receive a refund and then for them to turn around and sell them for more on Oco? I'd be highly pissed.

On a seperate note, I've been thinking about buying a newer larger 3d printer. If I got one big enough to print an EXENT bottom would there be any interest in a replacement printed 3d bottom?

That's pretty cool of you to offer!

I guess those of us who have yet to receive the boards still needs to hang on and wait :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Mon, 26 February 2018, 06:35:44

On a seperate note, I've been thinking about buying a newer larger 3d printer. If I got one big enough to print an EXENT bottom would there be any interest in a replacement printed 3d bottom?

I'd first like to see a prototype, since polycarb and the tipical plastics used for printing are quite different, but I definitely prefer a not-broken one over a damaged one
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Mon, 26 February 2018, 08:18:16
I may be able to cast a few if there is a real need, have to get my kits in the mail first though...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Mon, 26 February 2018, 08:23:52
I may be able to cast a few if there is a real need, have to get my kits in the mail first though...

the birb man! didn't know you were waiting as well. If you have a premium kit I think we won't have casted bottoms in at least 3 more months
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Mon, 26 February 2018, 09:56:18
No premo kit here,

Just a Silver base with brass weight and a black base with brass weight + black aluminum bottom.

Think i'm at least soon on the shipping docket.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Mon, 26 February 2018, 10:05:08
let's hope it doesn't take forever to ship. for the community's sanity at least
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 26 February 2018, 10:30:30
I may be able to cast a few if there is a real need, have to get my kits in the mail first though...

I'd rather have you cast one for me than 3d print it. Plus that 500mm CR-10 is pricey AF.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Tue, 27 February 2018, 10:22:52
Finally got tracking this morning, just praying now nothing is broken on arrival.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Tue, 27 February 2018, 10:32:26
Finally got tracking this morning, just praying now nothing is broken on arrival.

What was your order?
Praying for mine :pray:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Tue, 27 February 2018, 10:33:55
Finally got tracking this morning, just praying now nothing is broken on arrival.

What was your order?
Praying for mine :pray:

Basic kit with brass plate, 8/12 deg feet, aluminum bottom, and it was one of the purple.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Tue, 27 February 2018, 10:36:33
Finally got tracking this morning, just praying now nothing is broken on arrival.

What was your order?
Praying for mine :pray:

Basic kit with brass plate, 8/12 deg feet, aluminum bottom, and it was one of the purple.

Hell yes, I have the black kit with brass plate and alumium bottom + silver kit with brass plate. I assume this means aluminum bases are moving now. Please god.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Tue, 27 February 2018, 10:54:58
Tracking here as well, any idea what the shipping company is? Expected timeframe to US?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Tue, 27 February 2018, 11:07:23
Tracking here as well, any idea what the shipping company is? Expected timeframe to US?

SF Express, mine hasn't showed up in their system yet so it might take a bit. Not entirely sure how long people were waiting, probably 2 weeks at most?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Tue, 27 February 2018, 11:11:59
Got my tracking number for my alu bottom too, although mine uses Malaysia Post. I guess they're using a different shipping method to EU.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Tue, 27 February 2018, 11:13:32
Got a tracking too for my gray exent + black alu bottom!

Hype agained !  :cool:

The transporter appears to be "Pos Malaysia" for me (shipping to France). Still no update on the tracking, which is quite normal if they just drop it.

Maybe we can see light at the end of the tunnel  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 27 February 2018, 11:19:54
Finally got tracking this morning, just praying now nothing is broken on arrival.

Hey, only 2 weeks later than they said.  Not bad!   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Tue, 27 February 2018, 11:21:02
Finally got tracking this morning, just praying now nothing is broken on arrival.

Hey, only 2 weeks later than they said.  Not bad!   :rolleyes:

2 weeks and then some...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 27 February 2018, 11:33:46
Phew, I'm so glad to see some progress. I was legitimately beginning to think this project was completely abandoned. Still pissed off that there's so much silence about the premium kits, but at least my biggest fear has subsided (for now).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:01:09
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:16:11
Has anyone heard anything about the status of premium kit orders with the GMK set + MOD switches?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:27:19
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure

Yep, that's the one.

Has anyone heard anything about the status of premium kit orders with the GMK set + MOD switches?

Nope. This was the last thing even resembling info that we've received about the premium kits (a month ago) :

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/1679603df0066e1198e5ec438fd5af35.jpg)


This is the latest update form Sheraton.

Unless you count the email I got when I asked Sheraton about it. But his email was vague and confusing; basically all I got out of it was that the GMK sets haven't even been produced yet.

I wish they would just forget the premium features. "Downgrade" all of us to standard kits and refund us some money, and ship without the GMK set and switches.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:31:58
There may not be any money left to "refund" at this point...   :-[

Hence the numerous, unaccounted-for delays.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:32:53
Unless you count the email I got when I asked Sheraton about it. But his email was vague and confusing; basically all I got out of it was that the GMK sets haven't even been produced yet.

I wish they would just forget the premium features. "Downgrade" all of us to standard kits and refund us some money, and ship without the GMK set and switches.

Gotcha! Good to know the GB runners are still doing a great job!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:34:43
There may not be any money left to "refund" at this point...   :-[

Hence the numerous, unaccounted-for delays.

Yeah.. I'm starting to realize that we probably won't get our boards or our money back.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:39:13
Unless you count the email I got when I asked Sheraton about it. But his email was vague and confusing; basically all I got out of it was that the GMK sets haven't even been produced yet.

I wish they would just forget the premium features. "Downgrade" all of us to standard kits and refund us some money, and ship without the GMK set and switches.

When was this? In case it was recently then either you misunderstood what Sherry said or he gave you (or the people whom I know that spoke to him personally) the wrong information - the GMK sets are and have been finished for quite the while now, there was some sort of internal miscommunication between the Originative side and Juahenza/Yuktsi and co which led to Sherry to hold on to the sets until recently; I believe he thought he would be in charge of shipping US orders but then that wasn't the case.

That's the extent of what I've been made aware of however, I don't know if they've been forwarded to the people responsible or not.

Yeah.. I'm starting to realize that we probably won't get our boards or our money back.

Do you think Originative or Yuktsi, both of whom are very prominent within the community (as businesses as well as members), would allow customers to not receive anything at all? What are they gonna do with them, just have them sit there? Delays don't mean you're getting scammed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:46:38
Take it easy guys. Boards are made, and have been shipped. I don't think a refund is necessary at this point, since we've all waited for so long and the problems are with just shipping the stuff out.

If you're really antsy about getting the board you can probably pm yuktsi about it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:48:00
Has anyone heard anything about the status of premium kit orders with the GMK set + MOD switches?

I received my shipping invoice today

I got both a premium and a basic kit, Black and grey, Alu bottom and poly bottom, and Mod switches with the Premium kit
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:50:51
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure

Yep, that's the one.



That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!

REDACTED

Edit: just realised it's pretty much the eve of my payment anniversary... Yay me!

Edit #2: It seems shipping was already charged according to my invoice. Are people getting getting invoiced extra for shipping??
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:52:22
Got a tracking too for my gray exent + black alu bottom!

Hype agained !  :cool:

The transporter appears to be "Pos Malaysia" for me (shipping to France). Still no update on the tracking, which is quite normal if they just drop it.

Maybe we can see light at the end of the tunnel  :thumb:

Also got my tracking, but it's to my old address...  I have two separate confirmations that it will be going to my new address, so I hope it truly is.  Looking forward to getting this guy!

I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:54:26
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure

Yep, that's the one.



That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!

REDACTED

Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?

Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 27 February 2018, 12:56:49
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure

Yep, that's the one.



That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!

REDACTED

Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?

Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?

Mine was also from REDACTED. Pos Malaysia too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Tue, 27 February 2018, 13:04:48
Take it easy guys. Boards are made, and have been shipped. I don't think a refund is necessary at this point, since we've all waited for so long and the problems are with just shipping the stuff out.

If you're really antsy about getting the board you can probably pm yuktsi about it.

I'll just check back here next month for another status update. No need to PM anyone.  :blank:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 27 February 2018, 13:21:29
When was this? In case it was recently then either you misunderstood what Sherry said or he gave you (or the people whom I know that spoke to him personally) the wrong information - the GMK sets are and have been finished for quite the while now, there was some sort of internal miscommunication between the Originative side and Juahenza/Yuktsi and co which led to Sherry to hold on to the sets until recently; I believe he thought he would be in charge of shipping US orders but then that wasn't the case.

Here's where I posted about it a few weeks ago:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2562136#msg2562136 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2562136#msg2562136)

Using that information that you've provided (and the invoice of the dude who recently had a premium kit shipped) it looks I probably asked him about it before the misunderstanding was resolved. In the email he sent me it looked like he was waiting to ship the US orders himself like you said. Thanks for fact checking me and clearing things up for us too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: japanitrat on Tue, 27 February 2018, 13:57:04
w0000t, there is a shipping notification for a premium kit?
I didn't that any time soon, tbh.
Fantastic!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 27 February 2018, 14:11:11
Here's where I posted about it a few weeks ago:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2562136#msg2562136 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2562136#msg2562136)

Using that information that you've provided (and the invoice of the dude who recently had a premium kit shipped) it looks I probably asked him about it before the misunderstanding was resolved. In the email he sent me it looked like he was waiting to ship the US orders himself like you said. Thanks for fact checking me and clearing things up for us too.

For sure - as said it's a little hard to know exactly what information is correct, especially since Sherry is always super busy working on 10+ different projects all at once, the people I spoke to are working closely with Sherry regarding other matters so I believe it to be genuine.

I'm not sure whether DPD's order that was shipped includes his premium kit too or just the aluminium bottom basic (seeing as he has 2 different kinds on order), would make sense if they both went out at the same time but until further clarification we won't know for sure. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see how it unfolds.

Again, would be nice if Yuktsi or, god bless his cotton socks, Juahenza would just reappear like the second coming of Christ and let us know what actually is happening with the GMK sets but yea.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 27 February 2018, 14:26:30
I'm not sure whether DPD's order that was shipped includes his premium kit too or just the aluminium bottom basic (seeing as he has 2 different kinds on order), would make sense if they both went out at the same time but until further clarification we won't know for sure. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see how it unfolds.

Again, would be nice if Yuktsi or, god bless his cotton socks, Juahenza would just reappear like the second coming of Christ and let us know what actually is happening with the GMK sets but yea.

That's a fair point Vigrith, the invoice, that shows the totality of the order, was updated with shipping information, but doesn't confirm specifically that everything that is included on the invoice is what was shipped, nor is there a notice anywhere that says otherwise. My hope is that is the case, and it feels like it is, but I won't know until it is received.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 27 February 2018, 15:55:49
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure

Yep, that's the one.



That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!

REDACTED

Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?

Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?

Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure

Yep, that's the one.



That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!

REDACTED

Edit: just realised it's pretty much the eve of my payment anniversary... Yay me!

Edit #2: It seems shipping was already charged according to my invoice. Are people getting getting invoiced extra for shipping??

Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure

Yep, that's the one.



That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!

REDACTED

Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?

Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?

Mine was also from REDACTED. Pos Malaysia too.

Got a tracking too for my gray exent + black alu bottom!

Hype agained !  :cool:

The transporter appears to be "Pos Malaysia" for me (shipping to France). Still no update on the tracking, which is quite normal if they just drop it.

Maybe we can see light at the end of the tunnel  :thumb:

Also got my tracking, but it's to my old address...  I have two separate confirmations that it will be going to my new address, so I hope it truly is.  Looking forward to getting this guy!

I'll keep you posted.

It's okay, REDACTED is friend of Yuktsi also he's a Malaysian

Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure

Yep, that's the one.



That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!

REDACTED

Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?

Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?

I have not seen any notifications about shipping yet. Still waiting
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 27 February 2018, 18:08:58
Got a tracking too for my gray exent + black alu bottom!

Hype agained !  :cool:

The transporter appears to be "Pos Malaysia" for me (shipping to France). Still no update on the tracking, which is quite normal if they just drop it.

Maybe we can see light at the end of the tunnel  :thumb:

Also got my tracking, but it's to my old address...  I have two separate confirmations that it will be going to my new address, so I hope it truly is.  Looking forward to getting this guy!

I'll keep you posted.

Double checked with sender, looks like it went to the right address, PayPal just used my old one from the PayPal receipt.  The tracking number isn't resulting in anything, but I'm guessing it's just not recorded yet.  Really excited.


Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Tue, 27 February 2018, 18:40:57
I got tracking number of my alu-bottom basic exent  too:)
Wadaoo!!!!!
now I hope there is no any problem.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Wed, 28 February 2018, 07:03:09
Where exactly are you supposed to see the tracking number anyways?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Wed, 28 February 2018, 08:11:17
Where exactly are you supposed to see the tracking number anyways?
They update my PayPal order and PayPal sent me an email with tracking

Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Thu, 01 March 2018, 05:14:25
Still no update on tracking number, it is still inactive :( meaning they still did not drop it I think!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Thu, 01 March 2018, 10:59:21
Also still waiting on Premium Black with one of each base. <3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Thu, 01 March 2018, 11:04:21
Also still waiting on Premium Black with one of each base. <3

Ahh you did the right thing with ordering one of each base - I'm kinda sad I missed out on the aluminum one!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Thu, 01 March 2018, 11:49:10
Still no update on tracking number, it is still inactive :( meaning they still did not drop it I think!

Yeah, similar to creating a USPS tracking number (and manually entering that number in the paypal order) but not sending the package to USPS... I wonder how many more weeks added now?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Thu, 01 March 2018, 11:52:10
Hope you all will get the boards without any issues safely.

Also, after this GB is finished, I do hope there will be additional GB regarding aluminum bottoms for people who chose PC ones. The crack of my bottom is getting worse.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: darkslay3r on Thu, 01 March 2018, 12:21:25
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure

Yep, that's the one.



That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!

REDACTED

Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?

Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?

Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure

Yep, that's the one.



That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!

REDACTED

Edit: just realised it's pretty much the eve of my payment anniversary... Yay me!

Edit #2: It seems shipping was already charged according to my invoice. Are people getting getting invoiced extra for shipping??

Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure

Yep, that's the one.



That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!

REDACTED

Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?

Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?

Mine was also from REDACTED. Pos Malaysia too.

Got a tracking too for my gray exent + black alu bottom!

Hype agained !  :cool:

The transporter appears to be "Pos Malaysia" for me (shipping to France). Still no update on the tracking, which is quite normal if they just drop it.

Maybe we can see light at the end of the tunnel  :thumb:

Also got my tracking, but it's to my old address...  I have two separate confirmations that it will be going to my new address, so I hope it truly is.  Looking forward to getting this guy!

I'll keep you posted.

It's okay, REDACTED is friend of Yuktsi also he's a Malaysian
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Thu, 01 March 2018, 12:39:51
I really don't like this on the POS Malaysia website when I input my tracking number:
"No information for the following shipments has been received by our system yet."

It's been few days, not normal, look like the habitual bs that they served, saying it will go out, just buying time again and again...
 :mad:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 01 March 2018, 12:54:59
I really don't like this on the POS Malaysia website when I input my tracking number:
"No information for the following shipments has been received by our system yet."

It's been few days, not normal, look like the habitual bs that they served, saying it will go out, just buying time again and again...
 :mad:

I had a tracking number WEEKS (at least 3) before my package was actually transferred to the carrier.  Make sure you're using the actual S.F. Express web site to check.  It hasn't truly been shipped until it shows tracking data on the site.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 01 March 2018, 12:56:05
I really don't like this on the POS Malaysia website when I input my tracking number:
"No information for the following shipments has been received by our system yet."

It's been few days, not normal, look like the habitual bs that they served, saying it will go out, just buying time again and again...
 :mad:

Thats it exactly. I questioned why mine too so long to update way back when. "SF is slow to to process."

My C225 shipped SF Express and it was here in like a week, end to end.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Thu, 01 March 2018, 13:37:03
Also, after this GB is finished, I do hope there will be additional GB regarding aluminum bottoms for people who chose PC ones. The crack of my bottom is getting worse.

NO! The GB organizer should never attempt to this again.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 01 March 2018, 13:48:00
I really don't like this on the POS Malaysia website when I input my tracking number:
"No information for the following shipments has been received by our system yet."

It's been few days, not normal, look like the habitual bs that they served, saying it will go out, just buying time again and again...
 :mad:

Thats it exactly. I questioned why mine too so long to update way back when. "SF is slow to to process."

My C225 shipped SF Express and it was here in like a week, end to end.

Yeah... I've checked my tracking number on POS and other Malaysia Post sites and get 'No tracking found.' messages.  I'm sure it will come eventually and I want to stay positive about this GB, but each step of the way seems like struggle.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Thu, 01 March 2018, 14:00:25
They could have made labels literally a month ago. I don't understand how it is taking so long to send a finished product to the people who paid for it, in some cases more than a year ago.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Thu, 01 March 2018, 14:22:04
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 01 March 2018, 15:14:03
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.

(S)He is too busy responding to the people in the TGR-910 buy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 01 March 2018, 15:38:59
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.

I was considering doing the same. I was going to wait until 3/10; that would have been a complete month since he said anything here. And at the rate things have been going I'm pretty sure we'll hit that mark.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 01 March 2018, 15:43:34
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.

(S)He is too busy responding to the people in the TGR-910 buy.

He. I believe the picture is Jane, who he named the TKL after? Could be wrong.

I think it's fair for him to manage his own group buy.

However, all fairness has just disappeared when juahenza forgot about this :'(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 01 March 2018, 18:01:01
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.

(S)He is too busy responding to the people in the TGR-910 buy.

He. I believe the picture is Jane, who he named the TKL after? Could be wrong.

I think it's fair for him to manage his own group buy.

However, all fairness has just disappeared when juahenza forgot about this :'(

Yuktsi is the T(GR) in TARO - it's his or her buy too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 01 March 2018, 18:07:19
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.

(S)He is too busy responding to the people in the TGR-910 buy.

He. I believe the picture is Jane, who he named the TKL after? Could be wrong.

I think it's fair for him to manage his own group buy.

However, all fairness has just disappeared when juahenza forgot about this :'(

Yuktsi is the T(GR) in TARO - it's his or her buy too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 01 March 2018, 18:10:15
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.

(S)He is too busy responding to the people in the TGR-910 buy.

He. I believe the picture is Jane, who he named the TKL after? Could be wrong.

I think it's fair for him to manage his own group buy.

However, all fairness has just disappeared when juahenza forgot about this :'(

Yuktsi is the T(GR) in TARO - it's his or her buy too.

He :rolleyes:

But yeah, you're right. (Although I wouldn't say it's RAMA's buy, but we've already beat that topic.)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 01 March 2018, 18:46:19
I PM'd yuktsi on Tuesday to try to get some information on premium kits, haven't gotten a response.

(S)He is too busy responding to the people in the TGR-910 buy.

He. I believe the picture is Jane, who he named the TKL after? Could be wrong.

I think it's fair for him to manage his own group buy.

However, all fairness has just disappeared when juahenza forgot about this :'(

Yuktsi is the T(GR) in TARO - it's his or her buy too.

He :rolleyes:

But yeah, you're right. (Although I wouldn't say it's RAMA's buy, but we've already beat that topic.)

We will have to agree to disagree on that topic. That said, Yuktsi's involvement is all over this board. The PCB is exactly the same as the TGR-910 one.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Fri, 02 March 2018, 11:20:38
yuktsi did respond to my PM.

"I actually just created a request to my courier to pick them up instead. Will see it goes for the next couple of days."
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eat_the_food on Fri, 02 March 2018, 11:52:26
(https://i.imgur.com/QRW1xDa.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Fri, 02 March 2018, 11:58:41
Making us all jealous man, great shot. The pink ano came out so vibrant.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 02 March 2018, 12:11:18
That photo's not creepy at all.  No sir.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 02 March 2018, 12:39:49
yuktsi did respond to my PM.

"I actually just created a request to my courier to pick them up instead. Will see it goes for the next couple of days."

Was this the PM about the Premium kits? So he's having his courier pick up the GMK sets + switches?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Fri, 02 March 2018, 14:25:53
yuktsi did respond to my PM.

"I actually just created a request to my courier to pick them up instead. Will see it goes for the next couple of days."

Was this the PM about the Premium kits? So he's having his courier pick up the GMK sets + switches?

That's right. I'm not sure, I just copy/pasted...those two sentences are the entire PM.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 02 March 2018, 19:04:31
That's right. I'm not sure, I just copy/pasted...those two sentences are the entire PM.

Nice. Very interesting, albeit a bit vague. At this point I'll take anything I can get though. Wonder where it's being picked up from. Hopefully an office nearby; surely not from Sheraton's place.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Sat, 03 March 2018, 06:42:48
Anyone else with an alu bottom not get their tracking yet?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Sat, 03 March 2018, 06:50:06
Anyone else with an alu bottom not get their tracking yet?


Me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 03 March 2018, 07:12:17
Anyone else with an alu bottom not get their tracking yet?
Me.
Yeah but still no update on this POS Malaysia code for you too I think :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ricyuyc on Sat, 03 March 2018, 20:58:24
Anyone else with an alu bottom not get their tracking yet?

Me.
I paid for premium kit with both silver alu and black alu bottom. No tracking inform received yet.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Sun, 04 March 2018, 16:33:31
Is this Tuhai & Co.? If so I got my invoice as well, but it didn't have any product details so I wasn't sure

Yep, that's the one.



That's curious! Mine didn't come from Tuhai and Co, it's from someone named REDACTED instead. Confused!

REDACTED

Mine is REDACTED and NTW Keyboards too, I think it must be because we're both in Europe?

Was yours sent with Pos Malaysia too?

Mine was also from REDACTED. Pos Malaysia too.

Mine is also from REDACTED but the tracking number did not show up in either Pos Malaysia or SF express..How do you know which shipper is it? I'm in the US.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 04 March 2018, 18:07:45
i know it's a long shot but any resolution on what's happening for those who received cracked poly bottoms?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 04 March 2018, 19:04:01
i know it's a long shot but any resolution on what's happening for those who received cracked poly bottoms?

AFAIK it's been radio silence on this issues (cracked poly, missing stabs) for quite a while now.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 04 March 2018, 19:12:24
i know it's a long shot but any resolution on what's happening for those who received cracked poly bottoms?

AFAIK it's been radio silence on this issues (cracked poly, missing stabs) for quite a while now.
hoping it gets addressed soon but i know that's asking a lot
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Mon, 05 March 2018, 06:04:56
I wouldn't expect anything about cracked bottoms, faulty PCB's and missing stabs in less than 6 months, but we'll see. People with premium kits still haven't received their tracking and this is being even more ridiculous than it's been before.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 05 March 2018, 10:32:38
I wouldn't expect anything about cracked bottoms, faulty PCB's and missing stabs in less than 6 months, but we'll see. People with premium kits still haven't received their tracking and this is being even more ridiculous than it's been before.

Considering this project has four well known community members, you think someone would step up and take a leadership role here.  RAMA, TGR, Originative, and Aconic all have their names on this group buy...  You think one of them could set the record straight here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Mon, 05 March 2018, 10:47:44
Considering this project has four well known community members, you think someone would step up and take a leadership role here.  RAMA, TGR, Originative, and Aconic all have their names on this group buy...  You think one of them could set the record straight here.

Although this would be repeating the discussion (and I'm not saying that I agree or I don't) it's been said that RAMA was just the designer, so I doubt that he would like to take this GB and do something with it. Originative is in the other side of the world AFAIK, so they can't do much either. I think this is now more of dodging the ****storm than to solve our problems as their customers. This is not the first ****-up for some of them and they are still "prestigious" in the community, so I doubt they care about this affecting their reputation. It's just not fair for us because we have no power at all or any way to enforce anything of them. We can only wait and praise they fulfill our orders and solve our problems. Unless we go to every thread, page, forum, etc and start spamming their products, buys and whatever with comments regarding this, but we all know how this ends in GH
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 05 March 2018, 10:54:44
Considering this project has four well known community members, you think someone would step up and take a leadership role here.  RAMA, TGR, Originative, and Aconic all have their names on this group buy...  You think one of them could set the record straight here.

Although this would be repeating the discussion (and I'm not saying that I agree or I don't) it's been said that RAMA was just the designer, so I doubt that he would like to take this GB and do something with it. Originative is in the other side of the world AFAIK, so they can't do much either. I think this is now more of dodging the ****storm than to solve our problems as their customers. This is not the first ****-up for some of them and they are still "prestigious" in the community, so I doubt they care about this affecting their reputation. It's just not fair for us because we have no power at all or any way to enforce anything of them. We can only wait and praise they fulfill our orders and solve our problems. Unless we go to every thread, page, forum, etc and start spamming their products, buys and whatever with comments regarding this, but we all know how this ends in GH

Well I can tell you that none of those names are prestigious to me anymore, and all of them have lost me as a customer, permanently. And I have money to throw around when it comes to mechanical keyboards.

E.g. I deliberately avoided originative recently for something as simple as genuine cherry stabilizers. I won't buy anything from any of these guys ever again, I don't care how ancillary their role in this was. No one wants to take responsibility, and that's unacceptable behavior to me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 05 March 2018, 11:23:49
No one wants to take responsibility, and that's unacceptable behavior to me.

That's my point.  Yuktsi, of all the names attached to this GB, has been the most responsive and available to me.  E-mail and PMs responded to quickly, fairly regular updates in the forum, and has worked with me on changing my shipping address.

At this point, it sounds that most just want issues addressed and approximate schedules updated.  It's really not that much and I don't know why it's so difficult to address a few things.  Unfortunately, the damage is seemingly done. 

My hopes are that everyone that has received bad PCBs and cracked bottoms are taken care of, at least.  It seems these kinds of things have happened on GH before and hence the caveat emptor.  Let's keep our fingers crossed that someone will right this ship.   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 05 March 2018, 11:47:10
That's my point.  Yuktsi, of all the names attached to this GB, has been the most responsive and available to me.  E-mail and PMs responded to quickly, fairly regular updates in the forum, and has worked with me on changing my shipping address.

Juahenza seems to have perished, Originative is across the world and Rama has nothing to do with the project except them having used his (unfinished) design - Yuktsi seems to be able and willing to work toward getting this sorted and as much as I imagine he wants to do right by people, he also has his 910 GB he's been working toward finishing.

Far as I'm aware he has a few units of that to ship out and then it should be a wrap, I'm not "in the know" of his work ethic but I'd figure after that he'll get back to actively sorting through this. Hopefully the aluminium bottom basics will all be arriving and premium kits finally ship out so that the people with faulty parts can get taken care of.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 05 March 2018, 12:08:51
Juahenza seems to have perished, Originative is across the world and Rama has nothing to do with the project except them having used his (unfinished) design - Yuktsi seems to be the only one actually able and willing to work toward getting this sorted and as much as I imagine he wants to do right by people, he also has his 910 GB he's been working toward finishing.

I was a bit hesitant about saying that myself, but those are my thoughts exactly. Pretty sure Juahenza has completely abandoned this project. Yuktsi is our only hope, and I think this GB is low on his list of priorities. But with him being our last hope I'm trying to be patient. As long as there's progress being made I won't complain, but it's hard to know what is or isn't being done without updates. I'm not expecting any going forward though. Only updates will be the info we share among each other.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Mon, 05 March 2018, 15:20:33
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 05 March 2018, 15:38:23
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?

Still empty for me!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:10:54
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?

Still empty for me as well, but I am not sure if yuktsi is going to consolidate my order since i had mine split in shipping.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 05 March 2018, 16:30:57
I heard that mine are going to be sent separately because they don't have everything for my premium yet and will be shipping that later out of pocket
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Saiph on Tue, 06 March 2018, 10:38:33
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?

For my non premium kit I received the tracking number a pretty long time before they actually started shipping it. It was a few weeks at least, don't remember exactly. When it started shipping it arrived very quickly though, I think it was less than a week.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 06 March 2018, 11:12:03
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?

'Record not found.'   :blank:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Tue, 06 March 2018, 11:30:52
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?

Yes...  They did this with the first wave of shipments too.  Just because you have a tracking number doesn't mean the parcel is in possession of a mail carrier.  Most (all?) of the shipping companies will let you print a label for drop-off or pick-up at some undetermined future date.  And that's exactly what's taking place now.  Whoever has the labeled packages needs to drop them off or schedule the pick-up.  I don't know how it works in SE Asia, but in the US we call that just being ****ing lazy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Tue, 06 March 2018, 17:25:26
Do we know why the tracking seems to be going without any updates? Has anyone with an aluminum bottom seen their tracking move?

Yes...  They did this with the first wave of shipments too.  Just because you have a tracking number doesn't mean the parcel is in possession of a mail carrier.  Most (all?) of the shipping companies will let you print a label for drop-off or pick-up at some undetermined future date.  And that's exactly what's taking place now.  Whoever has the labeled packages needs to drop them off or schedule the pick-up.  I don't know how it works in SE Asia, but in the US we call that just being ****ing lazy.

They're probably sitting on someone's desk just like the GMK keycaps for premium kits (https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/25/1.0) any day now...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Tue, 06 March 2018, 19:55:10
Got a PM from juahenza today. He just received the GMK caps! All remaining orders will ship by end of next week!  :p

GET READY
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 06 March 2018, 20:15:05
Got a PM from juahenza today. He just received the GMK caps! All remaining orders will ship by end of next week!  :p

GET READY

It's a Christmas miracle.

Easter miracle?

Miracle.

PS: you best not be trolling homie, I will clap cheeks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 06 March 2018, 22:02:11

It's a Christmas miracle.

Easter miracle?

Miracle.

PS: you best not be trolling homie, I will clap cheeks.

Nothing wrong with being optimistic, but regarding this group buy I'd be suprise by anything that even resembles a miracle lol.

I'm not sure how to say this politely, so eh: I have doubts about the validity of this guy's statement. This is the same guy who said Juahenza was going to start offering refunds after Feb. 22 (which never came to pass, at least not publicly). I've asked him when Juahenza said that and he never responded to me. If I'm looking at the site right Juahenza hasn't been on geekhack since Feb. 7, so unless Juahenza is PM'ing this guy via a different method it doesn't sound too legit to me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 06 March 2018, 22:05:01
This is the same guy who said Juahenza was going to start offering refunds after Feb. 22 (which never came to pass, at least not publicly).

gdi
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Tue, 06 March 2018, 22:13:14
Got a PM from juahenza today. He just received the GMK caps! All remaining orders will ship by end of next week!  :p

GET READY

It's a Christmas miracle.

Easter miracle?

Miracle.

PS: you best not be trolling homie, I will clap cheeks.

Some cheeks are getting clapped
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 06 March 2018, 22:53:24
I'm not sure how to say this politely, so eh: I have doubts about the validity of this guy's statement. This is the same guy who said Juahenza was going to start offering refunds after Feb. 22 (which never came to pass, at least not publicly). I've asked him when Juahenza said that and he never responded to me. If I'm looking at the site right Juahenza hasn't been on geekhack since Feb. 7, so unless Juahenza is PM'ing this guy via a different method it doesn't sound too legit to me.

Doubts here as well. He claimed to receive a PM from Juahenza about refunds and then he claimed to receive a refund but is still PMing Juahenza about shipping? Also, countless people in this thread have PMed Juahenza without reply (myself included) and Juahenza hasn't been active here in a month.

On top of that, if you look at this guy's post history it's 26 posts in a total of two threads—this one and the recent Revo GB wherein he's just screaming at everyone about how Revo and Originative should go to hell.



[Edits to remove typos]
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 06 March 2018, 23:14:25
I'd like to know how you received a PM with him being offline for a month.

(https://i.imgur.com/eGaCqHc.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 06 March 2018, 23:31:23
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/QRW1xDa.jpg)


A+  Oddly hypnotic.  Would print and frame. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 07 March 2018, 06:51:51
Second miracle ! My tracking as moved for my base exent with alu bottom! I am so ****ing excited!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 07 March 2018, 09:51:40
POS Malaysia or SF Express?

Mine's POS and hasn't shown up on the carrier yet.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Wed, 07 March 2018, 09:55:31
POS Malaysia or SF Express?

Mine's POS and hasn't shown up on the carrier yet.


Mine's POS Malaysia too and it hasn't shown up either
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 07 March 2018, 14:13:19
POS Malaysia or SF Express?

Mine's POS and hasn't shown up on the carrier yet.

It is POS Malaysia for me and since today it says «Item posted over the counter»!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 07 March 2018, 15:02:15
POS Malaysia or SF Express?

Mine's POS and hasn't shown up on the carrier yet.

It is POS Malaysia for me and since today it says «Item posted over the counter»!

That is a bit of good news. Hopefully it starts rolling out soon. Yuktsi mentioned some sort of warehouse in my small exchange with him through pm, totally possible they're starting to move out by the end of this week.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: canigetanipa on Wed, 07 March 2018, 17:51:33
Hello Yuktsi, please cancel my order #0407. Thanks, I have also pm'd you and emailed you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Wed, 07 March 2018, 17:54:11
Hello Yuktsi, please cancel my order #0407. Thanks, I have also pm'd you and emailed you.
gl
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 07 March 2018, 17:56:38
Hello Yuktsi, please cancel my order #0407. Thanks, I have also pm'd you and emailed you.

lol
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: canigetanipa on Wed, 07 March 2018, 18:19:35
lol

Sorry, it's been over 1 year guys! : (
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 07 March 2018, 18:40:56
Hello Yuktsi, please cancel my order #0407. Thanks, I have also pm'd you and emailed you.

Curious, why cancel? I doubt you'll get your money back. There's a decent chance I'm wrong, but from my understanding they've pretty much used all of the money and are dipping into their own pockets now. So it's either cancel and walk away empty handed or leave things be and possibly (hopefully) get your keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Wed, 07 March 2018, 18:49:16
The reason people are laughing is because you can't cancel anyway—that would require the GB runners ever check this thread again.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Thu, 08 March 2018, 07:21:07
lol

Sorry, it's been over 1 year guys! : (

Several of us asked to cancel months ago, but they're not willing to refund anyone's money.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 08 March 2018, 10:43:44
lol

Sorry, it's been over 1 year guys! : (

Several of us asked to cancel months ago, but they're not willing to refund anyone's money.

You gotta give him points for the confidence, even if it's delusional.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 08 March 2018, 11:14:52
The reason people are laughing is because you can't cancel anyway—that would require the GB runners ever check this thread again.

Yeah, it makes me wonder if we are some ancillary forum/thread, but the real information is being posted elsewhere.  Probably not, but this thread feels like a black hole that I fall into and hope I get shot out the other side with a keyboard waiting for me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 08 March 2018, 11:19:29
We should start posting in the TGR-910 thread.  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 08 March 2018, 11:28:43
We should start posting in the TGR-910 thread.  :eek:

I wouldn't advise "brigading" other threads with your concerns.  That's poor form.  But if it's the only way to get a response and some closure on our GB then they've left us with very little recourse.  Tough call.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 08 March 2018, 11:34:46
We should start posting in the TGR-910 thread.  :eek:

I wouldn't advise "brigading" other threads with your concerns.  That's poor form.  But if it's the only way to get a response and some closure on our GB then they've left us with very little recourse.  Tough call.

I wasn't seriously suggesting it (hence emoticon) but at the same time isn't ghosting us poor form as well?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 08 March 2018, 11:37:20
Maybe if it was the GB runner, but not a partner/assistant. Jchan posting in M65-A but not Master Control Rebirth would be acceptable imo.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: canigetanipa on Thu, 08 March 2018, 15:05:57
You gotta give him points for the confidence, even if it's delusional.

extra bonus 4 triggering? alright i'll just wait for the keyboard, dang!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:05:32
I really like the Cyrillic set in the OG Exent pictures but it's damn expensive...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Thu, 08 March 2018, 16:32:56
Did anyone who had to update their address receive their order at their new address? My PayPal was updated with tracking on December 28th, and the tracking number doesn't show a result on sf-express.com anymore (in the past the tracking number showed that the shipment had been created but no activity had registered).

I updated my address through PMing juahenza last September, and he confirmed, but I'm wondering if they still sent my order to my old address, since that is the address listed on PayPal.

Obviously already PMed juahenza with my concerns, but he hasn't been active here since Feb 7th. Especially concerning since my order contains four Exents. Whoops.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lzlzh035 on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:07:02
I didn't received a tracking yet but changed my address months before. Really hope what you are worrying about wouldn't happen :-[
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:26:44
extra bonus 4 triggering? alright i'll just wait for the keyboard, dang!

Bonus lol since "never mind about the refund, I'll just wait for the board" has an equal response of "that would require the GB runners ever come back to this thread and fulfill remaining orders". :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:27:23
[...] Especially concerning since my order contains four Exents. Whoops.

pray for gnarlsagan
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:48:27
[...] Especially concerning since my order contains four Exents. Whoops.

pray for gnarlsagan

brutal....
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Thu, 08 March 2018, 20:00:58
[...] Especially concerning since my order contains four Exents. Whoops.

pray for gnarlsagan

brutal....

My sf-express basic kit alu bottom hasn't moved since getting the tracking number and I'm also moving soon... I swear to god if it doesn't ship by then -_-
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 08 March 2018, 20:48:34
Did anyone who had to update their address receive their order at their new address? My PayPal was updated with tracking on December 28th, and the tracking number doesn't show a result on sf-express.com anymore (in the past the tracking number showed that the shipment had been created but no activity had registered).

I updated my address through PMing juahenza last September, and he confirmed, but I'm wondering if they still sent my order to my old address, since that is the address listed on PayPal.

Obviously already PMed juahenza with my concerns, but he hasn't been active here since Feb 7th. Especially concerning since my order contains four Exents. Whoops.

I also have this issue.  My PayPal notice does show my old address, so I confirmed with Yuksti that he sent to my new address, and he did.  I'm guessing this is an artifact of the PayPal order having my old address associated with it.  I sent an e-mail to the seller and they confirmed they sent it to my new address.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Fri, 09 March 2018, 13:52:01
Just chiming in.

I double checked my tracking with yuktsi. They used a different AWB on mine. Mine has moved since 3/8.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 09 March 2018, 14:32:32
hey juahenza

hope all is great with you man

not sure how much this thread is being checked based on the chatter but if it is i was hoping i could grab an update on a couple orders from you guys

for my order, i cant remember if its being sent to me or jokrik, and is there any way to follow if this has shipped or not

secondly, i believe baldgyes board is shipping to me to be assembled, so same thing goes, any way to know if we are shipped yet or lost in transit

sorry to be a bother, im completely happy waiting i just know both of the above orders had address changes etc and im not sure if my email has been attached to either for me to have gotten a notification, hopefully all this hasnt been addressed somewhere obvious

anyway, thanks for all the hard work, excited to see these in person finally after all of your hard work comes to fruition
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:31:28
hey juahenza

hope all is great with you man

not sure how much this thread is being checked based on the chatter but if it is i was hoping i could grab an update on a couple orders from you guys

for my order, i cant remember if its being sent to me or jokrik, and is there any way to follow if this has shipped or not

secondly, i believe baldgyes board is shipping to me to be assembled, so same thing goes, any way to know if we are shipped yet or lost in transit

sorry to be a bother, im completely happy waiting i just know both of the above orders had address changes etc and im not sure if my email has been attached to either for me to have gotten a notification, hopefully all this hasnt been addressed somewhere obvious

anyway, thanks for all the hard work, excited to see these in person finally after all of your hard work comes to fruition

Your best bet for an answer would be to PM Yuktsi. Pretty sure Juahenza has decided to abandon geekhack altogether and never check it again (he might have even abandoned the entire project, who knows). Yuktsi has refused to answer anyone or update anything in this thread, but I've heard he's relatively helpful with PMs. Best of luck to you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:35:38
hey juahenza

hope all is great with you man

not sure how much this thread is being checked based on the chatter but if it is i was hoping i could grab an update on a couple orders from you guys

for my order, i cant remember if its being sent to me or jokrik, and is there any way to follow if this has shipped or not

secondly, i believe baldgyes board is shipping to me to be assembled, so same thing goes, any way to know if we are shipped yet or lost in transit

sorry to be a bother, im completely happy waiting i just know both of the above orders had address changes etc and im not sure if my email has been attached to either for me to have gotten a notification, hopefully all this hasnt been addressed somewhere obvious

anyway, thanks for all the hard work, excited to see these in person finally after all of your hard work comes to fruition

Your best bet for an answer would be to PM Yuktsi. Pretty sure Juahenza has decided to abandon geekhack altogether and never check it again (he might have even abandoned the entire project, who knows). Yuktsi has refused to answer anyone or update anything in this thread, but I've heard he's relatively helpful with PMs. Best of luck to you.

Really appreciate the reply good sir

I’ll try and give both a gentle poke via means I have them added and if I get back any info that would be relevant to more than just myself I’ll be sure to report back here 


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: meirish on Sat, 10 March 2018, 22:20:57
Did anyone who had to update their address receive their order at their new address? My PayPal was updated with tracking on December 28th, and the tracking number doesn't show a result on sf-express.com anymore (in the past the tracking number showed that the shipment had been created but no activity had registered).

I updated my address through PMing juahenza last September, and he confirmed, but I'm wondering if they still sent my order to my old address, since that is the address listed on PayPal.

Obviously already PMed juahenza with my concerns, but he hasn't been active here since Feb 7th. Especially concerning since my order contains four Exents. Whoops.

I had an address change and received my order at the new address (the paypal invoice still showed the old one). WRT sf-express and tracking numbers - I got the tracking number and the sf-express site showed nothing until 3 weeks later when it showed up and progressed through the system.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 11 March 2018, 01:29:17
Please help, my Exent got bricked.

Does anyone know if it's possible to reset it?
Somehow my board got bricked from changing the USB port.
After disconnecting and connection my board it has totally stopped working (I just took out the USB cable and plugged it in an other port).

It blinks once on Caps Lock and Num lock when I plug it in but after that it does nothing and no leds turn on.

It comes up as Unknown USB Device in device manager and windows shows a message that tells me it is not working properly and it can not communicate with it.



Before it was bricked it was blinking sometimes and I couldn't write for a second or two, that's why I tried a new usb port.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 11 March 2018, 12:28:10
Please help, my Exent got bricked.

Does anyone know if it's possible to reset it?
Somehow my board got bricked from changing the USB port.
After disconnecting and connection my board it has totally stopped working (I just took out the USB cable and plugged it in an other port).

It blinks once on Caps Lock and Num lock when I plug it in but after that it does nothing and no leds turn on.

It comes up as Unknown USB Device in device manager and windows shows a message that tells me it is not working properly and it can not communicate with it.



Before it was bricked it was blinking sometimes and I couldn't write for a second or two, that's why I tried a new usb port.

Dang, another PCB horror story. Is it possible that you have a bad solder joint? That's what happened to the last guy. Do you have another machine you can try, preferably with a different OS like macOS or Linux?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 11 March 2018, 12:46:22
Please help, my Exent got bricked.

Does anyone know if it's possible to reset it?
Somehow my board got bricked from changing the USB port.
After disconnecting and connection my board it has totally stopped working (I just took out the USB cable and plugged it in an other port).

It blinks once on Caps Lock and Num lock when I plug it in but after that it does nothing and no leds turn on.

It comes up as Unknown USB Device in device manager and windows shows a message that tells me it is not working properly and it can not communicate with it.



Before it was bricked it was blinking sometimes and I couldn't write for a second or two, that's why I tried a new usb port.

Have you tried a different USB cable?

To me that sounds like connection issues. Maybe you worked the USB receptacle in the Exent out of place. Try a new cable, and if that doesn't work take a look at the USB plug on the PCB and see if there's any obvious damage to it. You know, broken solder joints, stuff like that.

I have a bum USB cable (that I'm not using anymore) that gave me pretty much the same symptoms.

I'm the "other PCB horror story" guy FYI. My problems were caused by a jumped connection somewhere due to sloppy soldering. I don't think you and I are dealing with the same things.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 11 March 2018, 12:51:03
Please help, my Exent got bricked.

Does anyone know if it's possible to reset it?
Somehow my board got bricked from changing the USB port.
After disconnecting and connection my board it has totally stopped working (I just took out the USB cable and plugged it in an other port).

It blinks once on Caps Lock and Num lock when I plug it in but after that it does nothing and no leds turn on.

It comes up as Unknown USB Device in device manager and windows shows a message that tells me it is not working properly and it can not communicate with it.



Before it was bricked it was blinking sometimes and I couldn't write for a second or two, that's why I tried a new usb port.

Have you tried a different USB cable?

To me that sounds like connection issues. Maybe you worked the USB receptacle in the Exent out of place. Try a new cable, and if that doesn't work take a look at the USB plug on the PCB and see if there's any obvious damage to it. You know, broken solder joints, stuff like that.



I tried different cables and different PC's. Same problem at all situations. I can't see any obvious damage to the USB port on the board, but I can't see it that well because of the plate. I can't remove the plate without desoldering all the switches. Also I have a small USB hub on my desk, and when I changed ports it was on my PC, I didn't touch the boards port.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 11 March 2018, 12:54:33
Please help, my Exent got bricked.

Does anyone know if it's possible to reset it?
Somehow my board got bricked from changing the USB port.
After disconnecting and connection my board it has totally stopped working (I just took out the USB cable and plugged it in an other port).

It blinks once on Caps Lock and Num lock when I plug it in but after that it does nothing and no leds turn on.

It comes up as Unknown USB Device in device manager and windows shows a message that tells me it is not working properly and it can not communicate with it.



Before it was bricked it was blinking sometimes and I couldn't write for a second or two, that's why I tried a new usb port.

Dang, another PCB horror story. Is it possible that you have a bad solder joint? That's what happened to the last guy. Do you have another machine you can try, preferably with a different OS like macOS or Linux?


How did the other guy fix it?

I tried different cables and different PC's. Same problem at all situations. I can't see any obvious damage to the USB port on the board, but I can't see it that well because of the plate. I can't remove the plate without desoldering all the switches. Also I have a small USB hub on my desk, and when I changed ports it was on my PC, I didn't touch the boards port.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 11 March 2018, 12:59:33


How did the other guy fix it?

I tried different cables and different PC's. Same problem at all situations. I can't see any obvious damage to the USB port on the board, but I can't see it that well because of the plate. I can't remove the plate without desoldering all the switches. Also I have a small USB hub on my desk, and when I changed ports it was on my PC, I didn't touch the boards port.

I'm the other guy, as I said previously (in an edit). I "fixed" it by desoldering the entire board. For the second time. I needed to replace a few parts and it ended up needing a complete desolder. So I did that, and then started experiencing problems while I was soldering the switches back into the board. So I gave up and took the switches out again and the PCB somehow fixed itself. Don't look at me.


But I was getting different symptoms. I was getting power and pressing keys even worked, kind of. Basically, it was like my PCB was stuck in bootloader mode I think?

So you're gonna need to start by taking keyboard apart and uploading a picture of the PCB. Don't take out the switches yet, though.

Maybe, though don't quote my cause I'm not electricamicalenginerdo, maybe when you unplugged the USB cable you fried something. What kind of electronics tools do you have? Do you have an oscilloscope and/or a voltmeter?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 11 March 2018, 13:12:51


How did the other guy fix it?

I tried different cables and different PC's. Same problem at all situations. I can't see any obvious damage to the USB port on the board, but I can't see it that well because of the plate. I can't remove the plate without desoldering all the switches. Also I have a small USB hub on my desk, and when I changed ports it was on my PC, I didn't touch the boards port.

I'm the other guy, as I said previously (in an edit). I "fixed" it by desoldering the entire board. For the second time. I needed to replace a few parts and it ended up needing a complete desolder. So I did that, and then started experiencing problems while I was soldering the switches back into the board. So I gave up and took the switches out again and the PCB somehow fixed itself. Don't look at me.


But I was getting different symptoms. I was getting power and pressing keys even worked, kind of. Basically, it was like my PCB was stuck in bootloader mode I think?

So you're gonna need to start by taking keyboard apart and uploading a picture of the PCB. Don't take out the switches yet, though.

Maybe, though don't quote my cause I'm not electricamicalenginerdo, maybe when you unplugged the USB cable you fried something. What kind of electronics tools do you have? Do you have an oscilloscope and/or a voltmeter?
I can get a hold of most tools I think. When you say a picture of the pcb, you mean this?: (https://i.imgur.com/DQhEuzv.jpg)

Tapatalk is making it blurry, here's the full rez: https://i.imgur.com/DQhEuzv.jpg
 
So there's no reset switch or anything?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Sun, 11 March 2018, 13:19:23
Here's my suggestion: Post in the TGR910 thread, Yuktsi is responding there.

Before anyone lights me up, the EXENT PCB is the TGR910 PCB. Just the solder mask and silkscreen are different. The EXENT has the same top side RGB mount location the TGR910 does.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 11 March 2018, 13:30:02
Here's my suggestion: Post in the TGR910 thread, Yuktsi is responding there.

Before anyone lights me up, the EXENT PCB is the TGR910 PCB. Just the solder mask and silkscreen are different. The EXENT has the same top side RGB mount location the TGR910 does.

I'm on your side about this. Yuktsi told me as much in a PM that the PCBs are identical.

I would also maybe make a separate thread in the workshop/making stuff together or whatever forum, and also try looking through the "PCB design" thread or whatever to see if he can get an idea of what should be working but isn't.

Also PM Yuktsi directly, not that I think that will be terrible  useful. He did tell me, though, that if it came to that he would sell me a new PCB. Given the way this project is I wouldn't put too much faith in that prospect though.

I'm sorry dude, as for your PCB picture I can't see anything obvious, aside from some cold solder joins on LEDs. The solder on the switch terminals also look dangerously close to their respective diodes in some places, but if it was working before hand I don't know how likely it is one of these is what's causing problems.

I guess what I would do is seeing if I could backtrace the continuity from the USB plug to...somewhere else on the board. I might also see what signals things are getting on a functional keyboard and compare those with what's going on with your exent.

I really feel for you, and I wish I could do more. I've gone through this multiple times now where I've had PCB issues and haven't really gotten, I dunno, the best help from posting online. In every case I've ended up in one way or another finding the fix myself, usually from blind luck.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 11 March 2018, 14:15:37
Here's my suggestion: Post in the TGR910 thread, Yuktsi is responding there.

Before anyone lights me up, the EXENT PCB is the TGR910 PCB. Just the solder mask and silkscreen are different. The EXENT has the same top side RGB mount location the TGR910 does.

I'm on your side about this. Yuktsi told me as much in a PM that the PCBs are identical.

I would also maybe make a separate thread in the workshop/making stuff together or whatever forum, and also try looking through the "PCB design" thread or whatever to see if he can get an idea of what should be working but isn't.

Also PM Yuktsi directly, not that I think that will be terrible  useful. He did tell me, though, that if it came to that he would sell me a new PCB. Given the way this project is I wouldn't put too much faith in that prospect though.

I'm sorry dude, as for your PCB picture I can't see anything obvious, aside from some cold solder joins on LEDs. The solder on the switch terminals also look dangerously close to their respective diodes in some places, but if it was working before hand I don't know how likely it is one of these is what's causing problems.

I guess what I would do is seeing if I could backtrace the continuity from the USB plug to...somewhere else on the board. I might also see what signals things are getting on a functional keyboard and compare those with what's going on with your exent.

I really feel for you, and I wish I could do more. I've gone through this multiple times now where I've had PCB issues and haven't really gotten, I dunno, the best help from posting online. In every case I've ended up in one way or another finding the fix myself, usually from blind luck.
Thanks a lot dude, I appreciate it. It's a bad feeling having a broken piece of hardware, especially when it's so unique.
I do think this issue is software related though, since it started from switching USB ports on my motherboard. I don't think that can fry any of the components.



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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 11 March 2018, 14:18:29
Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 11 March 2018, 16:08:06
Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

I dunno I don't have a caps lock light?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 11 March 2018, 16:22:59
Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

I dunno I don't have a caps lock light?


Okay I made a little progress, if I hold pgn up and backspace when I connect the board windows makes a sound as it's connected (not at the ps2avrGB but still as something) and the board starts blinking like this: (https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BoilingSmallArgentineruddyduck-size_restricted.gif)
https://i.imgur.com/Den3BdY.gifv (gif)


I tried to flash the firmware when it was blinking like that, and it actually does it, and then it restarts the board and I am back where I started. Nothing works and no lights on.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Sun, 11 March 2018, 16:23:39
Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

I dunno I don't have a caps lock light?


Okay I made a little progress, if I hold pgn up and backspace when I connect the board windows makes a sound as it's connected (not at the ps2avrGB but still as something) and the board starts blinking like this:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Den3BdY.gifv)

https://i.imgur.com/Den3BdY.gifv (gif)


I tried to flash the firmware when it was blinking like that, and it actually does it, and then it restarts the board and I am back where I started. Nothing works and no lights on.

I think that's Morse code for "save me".
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 11 March 2018, 16:36:40
Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

I dunno I don't have a caps lock light?


Okay I made a little progress, if I hold pgn up and backspace when I connect the board windows makes a sound as it's connected (not at the ps2avrGB but still as something) and the board starts blinking like this:
Show Image
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BoilingSmallArgentineruddyduck-size_restricted.gif)

https://i.imgur.com/Den3BdY.gifv (gif)


I tried to flash the firmware when it was blinking like that, and it actually does it, and then it restarts the board and I am back where I started. Nothing works and no lights on.

****ing weird. Have you tried holding LCRTL when plugging it in? That's the go into bootmapper button.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sun, 11 March 2018, 16:45:05
Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

I dunno I don't have a caps lock light?


Okay I made a little progress, if I hold pgn up and backspace when I connect the board windows makes a sound as it's connected (not at the ps2avrGB but still as something) and the board starts blinking like this:
Show Image
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BoilingSmallArgentineruddyduck-size_restricted.gif)

https://i.imgur.com/Den3BdY.gifv (gif)


I tried to flash the firmware when it was blinking like that, and it actually does it, and then it restarts the board and I am back where I started. Nothing works and no lights on.

****ing weird. Have you tried holding LCRTL when plugging it in? That's the go into bootmapper button.
That does nothing.
I can press page down and backspace then it's shows as "HIDboot" and blinks like that gif. Then I can flash the firmware and it starts blinking slow in a steady rhythm, when it's finished it disconnects and reconnect as unknown USB device
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Sun, 11 March 2018, 19:36:06
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills even asking this... but has anyone else with an alu bottom still not received their tracking? To echo bunny's sentiment, I'm fine continuing to be patient, but I'd love a heads up on status of any kind.

Feel like shouting into a black hole at this point.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ricyuyc on Sun, 11 March 2018, 19:49:28
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills even asking this... but has anyone else with an alu bottom still not received their tracking? To echo bunny's sentiment, I'm fine continuing to be patient, but I'd love a heads up on status of any kind.

Feel like shouting into a black hole at this point.
Yes, same here.  :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sun, 11 March 2018, 20:28:20
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills even asking this... but has anyone else with an alu bottom still not received their tracking? To echo bunny's sentiment, I'm fine continuing to be patient, but I'd love a heads up on status of any kind.

Feel like shouting into a black hole at this point.
Yes, same here.  :(

PM yuktsi? I paid mine through a friend's pp so i'm not able to get the tracking from the email, he was kind enough to give mine, even after the tracking number was changed since a different one was used.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Sun, 11 March 2018, 20:32:13
PM yuktsi?

The number of Exent PMs Yuktsi has ignored greatly outnumbers the total count of shipped Exents.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sethbc on Sun, 11 March 2018, 20:33:43
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills even asking this... but has anyone else with an alu bottom still not received their tracking? To echo bunny's sentiment, I'm fine continuing to be patient, but I'd love a heads up on status of any kind.

Feel like shouting into a black hole at this point.

yeah would love to get an update...have a premium with alu bottom and haven't heard anything.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 11 March 2018, 20:34:57
like shouting into a black hole at this point.
Yes, same here.  :(



Looks like they might just show up without tracking ever updating. I assume the shipping company just failed to input/update as it was in route.

I had an address change and received my order at the new address (the paypal invoice still showed the old one). WRT sf-express and tracking numbers - I got the tracking number and the sf-express site showed nothing until 3 weeks later when it showed up and progressed through the system.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sun, 11 March 2018, 20:56:00
PM yuktsi?

The number of Exent PMs Yuktsi has ignored greatly outnumbers the total count of shipped Exents.

That is quite weird. I've had a number of exchanges with him, and usually replies within a couple days. Mostly from asking about my stuff and with the delays.

And i reiterate that if you got a tracking number and it hasn't been moving since forever it could be that a different airway bill was used, leading to your tracking totally not registering, but ultimately end up being shipped already. Which has happened to me, thus the PMs between me and him.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Sun, 11 March 2018, 21:43:28
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills even asking this... but has anyone else with an alu bottom still not received their tracking? To echo bunny's sentiment, I'm fine continuing to be patient, but I'd love a heads up on status of any kind.

Feel like shouting into a black hole at this point.

.

Mod edit: Don't spread misleading comments without evidence to back it up.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sun, 11 March 2018, 21:47:21
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills even asking this... but has anyone else with an alu bottom still not received their tracking? To echo bunny's sentiment, I'm fine continuing to be patient, but I'd love a heads up on status of any kind.

Feel like shouting into a black hole at this point.

I heard that remaining orders are going out by end of this week. Your order may have shipped already.

Heard where? lol

Also why are you still here? I thought you already got a refund :^)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 11 March 2018, 22:07:44
I heard that remaining orders are going out by end of this week. Your order may have shipped already.

Curious, where did you hear that?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 11 March 2018, 22:22:09
I heard that remaining orders are going out by end of this week. Your order may have shipped already.

Curious, where did you hear that?
they're a troll
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Sun, 11 March 2018, 22:29:07
I heard that remaining orders are going out by end of this week. Your order may have shipped already.

Heard where? lol

Also why are you still here? I thought you already got a refund :^)

Heard from himself when he claimed to receive a PM from someone who hasn't signed into GH or sent PMs in more than a month. Honestly don't know why he continues to come back to the thread to fill it with misleading info.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sun, 11 March 2018, 22:49:26
I heard that remaining orders are going out by end of this week. Your order may have shipped already.

Heard where? lol

Also why are you still here? I thought you already got a refund :^)

Heard from himself when he claimed to receive a PM from someone who hasn't signed into GH or sent PMs in more than a month. Honestly don't know why he continues to come back to the thread to fill it with misleading info.

Obviously he just cares about the people in the thread. Even though he got his refund already he's giving updates for us from someone who's been MIA in GH for months! Magically got a refund too!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zhihuichan on Mon, 12 March 2018, 00:03:16
Really really nice job! :( 
(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/rfUNko8.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Mon, 12 March 2018, 02:12:12
Really really nice job! :( 
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rfUNko8.jpg)

That took me a while to notice, the heck? How did this happen, the CNC machine just stopped working?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 12 March 2018, 02:34:49
Oh and by the way, does your caps lock blink at first when you connect the board?

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I dunno I don't have a caps lock light?


Okay I made a little progress, if I hold pgn up and backspace when I connect the board windows makes a sound as it's connected (not at the ps2avrGB but still as something) and the board starts blinking like this:
Show Image
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BoilingSmallArgentineruddyduck-size_restricted.gif)

https://i.imgur.com/Den3BdY.gifv (gif)


I tried to flash the firmware when it was blinking like that, and it actually does it, and then it restarts the board and I am back where I started. Nothing works and no lights on.

****ing weird. Have you tried holding LCRTL when plugging it in? That's the go into bootmapper button.

Exent Brick Fixed :D

I got it working again!


I'm trying to remember exactly what I did, but I am not 100% sure of the order of things, but it was pretty much something like this:

I held down pageup and backspace, and connected board, it blinks like the gif I posted
The board then registers as HIDboot in windows and I got the "dingy" sound from windows
I opened the latest  bootmapper (https://meckeyalpha.com/pages/guide-on-bootmapper-client#software)
In the "Options" tab I first updated the firmware in the Utils section, I used "ps2avrGB_NKRO" from ps2avrGB_firmware_V1.4.0_171019.zip (https://github.com/showjean/ps2avrU/releases/tag/V1.4.0)
It starts blinking in a different way, more slow, and the firmware shows as uploading with some numbers in the software
After that it gets a little blurry for me, but I was just trying anything I could in the Utils & Bootloader sections.
I think this was my order: "Set Keyboard", "Set USB", Read speed = Slow, "EEPROM All Clear", "Set Keyboard"
Then I disconnected and connected to an other PC and it popped up as the ps2avrGB and it was working again


I am sorry I don't know the exact detailed order of how to fix this issue, I had no idea what I was doing so that makes it difficult to remember the solution.
I hope this might help anyone who gets in the same situation

Thanks for the help!

(https://i.imgur.com/UDcTiLh.jpg)






Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Mon, 12 March 2018, 03:50:28
Really really nice job! :( 
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)


Exent high-quality QA strikes again.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Mon, 12 March 2018, 04:48:24
Really really nice job! :( 
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)


Exent high-quality QA strikes again.

Could you put the switch in this hole?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Mon, 12 March 2018, 05:46:12
Really really nice job! :( 
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)


Exent high-quality QA strikes again.

Could you put the switch in this hole?

Most likely not as the height would be slightly too narrow for the switch. But let's wait for Zuihuichan to confirm. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zhihuichan on Mon, 12 March 2018, 05:49:50
Really really nice job! :( 
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)


Exent high-quality QA strikes again.

Could you put the switch in this hole?

Absolutely can't!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Mon, 12 March 2018, 07:13:13
Really really nice job! :( 
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)


Exent high-quality QA strikes again.

Could you put the switch in this hole?

Absolutely can't!

Hope you have a good set of metal files!    :-X
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:42:14
Really really nice job! :( 
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rfUNko8.jpg)



whaaaaat the fuuuuuuck


That's egregious. This whole ****ing group buy is. Everyone attached to this project should be ashamed of themselves.

@GreyAmbience: Congrats on the fix. Like I said, blind luck is usually what prevails. That's what my experience has been.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 12 March 2018, 12:26:05
Really really nice job! :( 
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rfUNko8.jpg)



whaaaaat the fuuuuuuck


That's egregious. This whole ****ing group buy is. Everyone attached to this project should be ashamed of themselves.

@GreyAmbience: Congrats on the fix. Like I said, blind luck is usually what prevails. That's what my experience has been.

(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6c3d783f98515f89dc4e6b0dd064b2815541511b09085cd1b5f3e762286bbfbc.gif)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Katanadog on Mon, 12 March 2018, 13:26:58
At what point do we as a group decide that enough is enough? I have tried to be patient and not jump on the bandwagon, but at this point I feel like waiting has gotten me nowhere. In addition to that the posts with newly defective PCBs and plates makes me think that even if I get my board it will be damaged. Is there anything we can do as a group to respectfully and safely put pressure / remind the runners that they have an obligation to us?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 12 March 2018, 13:29:14
At what point do we as a group decide that enough is enough? I have tried to be patient and not jump on the bandwagon, but at this point I feel like waiting has gotten me nowhere. In addition to that the posts with newly defective PCBs and plates makes me think that even if I get my board it will be damaged. Is there anything we can do as a group to respectfully and safely put pressure / remind the runners that they have an obligation to us?

If you're outside of your PayPal protection, which you will be since it's only 6 months, no, there is nothing you can do apart from hope. I'm sure it'll finish eventually.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 12 March 2018, 13:45:09
I am confident that leaning back and waiting with patience is the best approach.

It seems like everyone involved are doing the best they can to fix the problems when they arise.
I am sure everyone will get a board they are happy with by the end of all this.



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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 12 March 2018, 13:46:37
I am confident that leaning back and waiting with patience is the best approach.

It seems like everyone involved are doing the best they can to fix the problems when they arise.

I am sure everyone will get a board they are happy with by the end of all this.

I agree. But this thread just keeps going in circles of hope and disappointment.

Mods should keep it clear with only troubleshooting/update posts imo.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 12 March 2018, 13:48:22
I am confident that leaning back and waiting with patience is the best approach.

It seems like everyone involved are doing the best they can to fix the problems when they arise.

I am sure everyone will get a board they are happy with by the end of all this.

I agree. But this thread just keeps going in circles of hope and disappointment.

Mods should keep it clear with only troubleshooting/update posts imo.
I absolutely agree




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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Mon, 12 March 2018, 14:16:18
I am confident that leaning back and waiting with patience is the best approach.

It seems like everyone involved are doing the best they can to fix the problems when they arise.
I am sure everyone will get a board they are happy with by the end of all this.



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No one involved is doing much of anything to fix problems period, let alone when they arise. To say otherwise is simply wishful thinking.

The group buy runners seem to have stopped communicating, with no update by juahenza since January 2nd.

Occasionally an individual participant receives some info which usually doesn't pan out.

*Maybe* all of the participants will get functioning boards, at some unknown point wildly beyond any of the promised timelines, but the conduct of the GB so far makes that wishful thinking at best. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 12 March 2018, 14:30:23
No one involved is doing much of anything to fix problems period, let alone when they arise. To say otherwise is simply wishful thinking.

The group buy runners seem to have stopped communicating, with no update by juahenza since January 2nd.

Occasionally an individual participant receives some info which usually doesn't pan out.

*Maybe* all of the participants will get functioning boards, at some unknown point wildly beyond any of the promised timelines, but the conduct of the GB so far makes that wishful thinking at best.

We don't know what is being done behind the scenes, to claim anything else is just conjecture and feeds a pool of misinformation about what is going on. Communication has stopped, that's all we know. While that is super ****ty and is only causing problems, people have gotten boards, and emails and PMs and tracking information that doesn't seem to work universally, so things are happening on the GB runners end and even if it is happening painfully slowly things are being addressed. Because things are still moving, and boards are showing up I don't think it's wishful thinking, I really do think that everything will be addressed, I just think it's going to take a lot longer than it ever should have.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Mon, 12 March 2018, 14:40:12
No one involved is doing much of anything to fix problems period, let alone when they arise. To say otherwise is simply wishful thinking.

The group buy runners seem to have stopped communicating, with no update by juahenza since January 2nd.

Occasionally an individual participant receives some info which usually doesn't pan out.

*Maybe* all of the participants will get functioning boards, at some unknown point wildly beyond any of the promised timelines, but the conduct of the GB so far makes that wishful thinking at best.

We don't know what is being done behind the scenes, to claim anything else is just conjecture and feeds a pool of misinformation about what is going on. Communication has stopped, that's all we know. While that is super ****ty and is only causing problems, people have gotten boards, and emails and PMs and tracking information that doesn't seem to work universally, so things are happening on the GB runners end and even if it is happening painfully slowly things are being addressed. Because things are still moving, and boards are showing up I don't think it's wishful thinking, I really do think that everything will be addressed, I just think it's going to take a lot longer than it ever should have.

A few people have gotten boards. Some of them even function properly! The lack of communication and conduct so far means it is completely reasonable to speculate things will continue in the same vein and may not get any better.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 12 March 2018, 14:51:14
A few people have gotten boards. Some of them even function properly! The lack of communication and conduct so far means it is completely reasonable to speculate things will continue in the same vein and may not get any better.

Right, I am just saying that the same vein is that boards are shipping out despite no communication. It's ****ty, but it's something.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Mon, 12 March 2018, 15:01:44
Whenever I visit this thread, I feel as if I were on a sinking ship without the captain.
Wish this ship named EXENT could find hope, not hell.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: clasicks on Mon, 12 March 2018, 15:42:02
gb runner starts name with J.... goes dark, people get busted boards.... reminds me of other runner with letter J

/end tp4
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:43:00
gb runner starts name with J.... goes dark, people get busted boards.... reminds me of other runner with letter J

/end tp4

And they're located in SEA. The plot thickens...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 12 March 2018, 17:58:11
gb runner starts name with J.... goes dark, people get busted boards.... reminds me of other runner with letter J

/end tp4

And they're located in SEA. The plot thickens...

I dont get it. Who is the other J guy?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 12 March 2018, 18:56:13
gb runner starts name with J.... goes dark, people get busted boards.... reminds me of other runner with letter J

/end tp4

And they're located in SEA. The plot thickens...

I dont get it. Who is the other J guy?

I assumed Jhoang, who was the E8-V1 buy runner.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: stand.geek on Tue, 13 March 2018, 06:47:19
Here's my exent build

https://imgur.com/a/k6bfj

At first I thought I got a faulty PCB, because row 14 and 15 is not responsive at all, then I desolder all the switch in row 14 and 15, and resolder it again carefully. Now my EXENT works normal.   :p
Maybe for you that got a 'faulty' PCB can try to desolder all the switch in the faulty row and resolder again with a little amount of solder.
Hope this help  :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 13 March 2018, 07:32:47
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 13 March 2018, 07:36:25
Here's my exent build

https://imgur.com/a/k6bfj

At first I thought I got a faulty PCB, because row 14 and 15 is not responsive at all, then I desolder all the switch in row 14 and 15, and resolder it again carefully. Now my EXENT works normal.   :p
Maybe for you that got a 'faulty' PCB can try to desolder all the switch in the faulty row and resolder again with a little amount of solder.
Hope this help  :D
Thank you, Sebastian.

All PCB were checked before shipping out. Technically, you may have issue with solder overflow, burnt track... Just send me a PM if you are having issues with your PCB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 13 March 2018, 07:44:10
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.

It's good to see a response in this thread finally. Can we get an update on replacement bottoms and stabilizers?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Tue, 13 March 2018, 08:02:04
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.
Hi Yuktsi, have Aluminum bottoms been collected yet? Majority of us cannot see any movement on our tracking, do we need to check somewhere different than on 17Track?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 13 March 2018, 08:04:08
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.
Hi Yuktsi, have Aluminum bottoms been collected yet? Majority of us cannot see any movement on our tracking, do we need to check somewhere different than on 17Track?
Yeah, they have been collected. I am aware that some of the trackings are not moving, along with my some other shipments. I've contacted them and hope that things get sorted soon.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 13 March 2018, 08:08:35
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.

It's good to see a response in this thread finally. Can we get an update on replacement bottoms and stabilizers?
I will refund you for the stabilizers since they are still not with us yet. We have no update on the replacement bottoms yet, and it might take awhile. The plan right now is to have the remaining units shipped out as soon as possible.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 13 March 2018, 08:09:35
Really really nice job! :( 
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/zkRQDzs.jpg)

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/rfUNko8.jpg)

Yeah, the anodizing on your full silver unit is really nice. I've not said this enough, it's probably the best I've seen.

Do send me a PM regarding the plate, we will have something worked out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 13 March 2018, 09:30:30
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.

Thanks for taking the time to give us some updates here, I know you are otherwise busy with your own buy that you're working on fully shipping out etc so I appreciate the effort.

Slightly disconcerting that Sherry has had the sets forever now and that they were meant to ship "next week" like 2 months ago but I'm glad they're going to be moving along at least.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 13 March 2018, 10:45:05
Thanks for the updates yuksi and taking the time to stop by

Much appreciated


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 13 March 2018, 10:59:44
Thank you for taking the time to drop by in the thread to provide some updates!  :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 13 March 2018, 12:16:37
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.

Thanks for dropping by and updating us! It means a lot.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 13 March 2018, 12:20:35
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.

Can you just clarify: You're talking about the GMK caps being dropped off to you, or do you mean Originative has the Exent Premium orders and they need to drop in the caps and actually handle shipping out whole kits to customers?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Tue, 13 March 2018, 12:46:52
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.
Hi Yuktsi, have Aluminum bottoms been collected yet? Majority of us cannot see any movement on our tracking, do we need to check somewhere different than on 17Track?
Yeah, they have been collected. I am aware that some of the trackings are not moving, along with my some other shipments. I've contacted them and hope that things get sorted soon.

Please update us on this when you hear back, Mine shipped late February and still no movement. I know some people who have that tracking are moving soon and knowing when the package will arrive is very important.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 13 March 2018, 13:28:36
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.

It's good to see a response in this thread finally. Can we get an update on replacement bottoms and stabilizers?
I will refund you for the stabilizers since they are still not with us yet. We have no update on the replacement bottoms yet, and it might take awhile. The plan right now is to have the remaining units shipped out as soon as possible.

Hi Yuktsi!

Thanks for dropping in!  I ordered stabilizers with my order and an aluminum bottom.  I got a tracking number, does that mean I won't be receiving stabilizers with my order?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:48:29
OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.
Hi Yuktsi, have Aluminum bottoms been collected yet? Majority of us cannot see any movement on our tracking, do we need to check somewhere different than on 17Track?
Yeah, they have been collected. I am aware that some of the trackings are not moving, along with my some other shipments. I've contacted them and hope that things get sorted soon.

Should we be concerned if we've not yet received tracking information for our alu bottom orders?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Tue, 13 March 2018, 21:28:20
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 14 March 2018, 01:20:43
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....

Nice to hear someone that received an alu bottom exent! My tracking is stuck since the 10 on « on route to FRANCE ».. and no other update, did you had the same issue with the tracking?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 14 March 2018, 03:55:15
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....
As long as it doesn't show "device not recognized", I am relieved. Send me a PM. I will guide you through.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Wed, 14 March 2018, 08:05:12
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....

Nice to hear someone that received an alu bottom exent! My tracking is stuck since the 10 on « on route to FRANCE ».. and no other update, did you had the same issue with the tracking?

Mine was using SF Express. Tracking stays in HongKong for couple of days but once it gets out of HongKong it moves fast
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Wed, 14 March 2018, 08:55:25
Is it normal to have a premium kit without any tracking number or anything? Any other premium kits in the US not have any?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 14 March 2018, 09:01:05
Is it normal to have a premium kit without any tracking number or anything? Any other premium kits in the US not have any?

I believe the keysets aren't in possession of gb runners yet. I opted for my shipping to get split, which means my keyset/switches will get sent at a later date.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Wed, 14 March 2018, 09:09:57
Are other people with the aluminum bottoms in possession of a tracking number that has not moved? I see others have moved but mine is still not in the system at all which is now even more concerning.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Wed, 14 March 2018, 09:12:42
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....
As long as it doesn't show "device not recognized", I am relieved. Send me a PM. I will guide you through.

PMed, thx
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 14 March 2018, 10:59:17
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....

Nice to hear someone that received an alu bottom exent! My tracking is stuck since the 10 on « on route to FRANCE ».. and no other update, did you had the same issue with the tracking?

Mine was using SF Express. Tracking stays in HongKong for couple of days but once it gets out of HongKong it moves fast

Mine still says 'No Record Found' on both POS Malaysia and SF Express.   :-[
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Wed, 14 March 2018, 11:13:20
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....

Nice to hear someone that received an alu bottom exent! My tracking is stuck since the 10 on « on route to FRANCE ».. and no other update, did you had the same issue with the tracking?

Mine was using SF Express. Tracking stays in HongKong for couple of days but once it gets out of HongKong it moves fast

Mine still says 'No Record Found' on both POS Malaysia and SF Express.   :-[
Yeah that's where I've been for the last couple of weeks, I'm hoping it just shows up one day.

Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 14 March 2018, 12:15:20
Got mine with alu bottom. The first thing I did was plug it in and see if the pcb works. But nothing happens - didn't hear the sound of a usb device being plugged in. No anything. Of course bootmapper says no deveice found. What am I doing wrong here? Tried to short the PCB with tweezers but nothing seems to happen either. Can anyone let me know how to properly short the Left Ctrl key? Now it just looks like no power is supplied to the pcb at all....

Nice to hear someone that received an alu bottom exent! My tracking is stuck since the 10 on « on route to FRANCE ».. and no other update, did you had the same issue with the tracking?

Mine was using SF Express. Tracking stays in HongKong for couple of days but once it gets out of HongKong it moves fast

Mine still says 'No Record Found' on both POS Malaysia and SF Express.   :-[

I don't even have a tracking number so I guess you're still a step ahead  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Wed, 14 March 2018, 19:05:51
I got my tracking number back in December, SF-Express is still listing it as an invalid way bill... and the GB runners aren't replying to my polite messages.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Wed, 14 March 2018, 20:55:20
I got my tracking number back in December, SF-Express is still listing it as an invalid way bill... and the GB runners aren't replying to my polite messages.
Well that is disconcerting

Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Thu, 15 March 2018, 00:32:35
Built the board and no worky  :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.

Here is the layout:
(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)

Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.

Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.

Is there a specific controller I should have selected?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Thu, 15 March 2018, 03:30:43
Still waiting for the tracking to move :(.. it is locked since 5 days on « in route to france ». But seeing all theses issue with pcb, I am now even more worried about the moment I wil have to build it ahah! First time I build a keyboard (except if my m65a cosmos arrive before). I already programmed a satan gh60 and it was super straightforward, so I hope it will be the same with the EXENT.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Thu, 15 March 2018, 08:47:57
Built the board and no worky  :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.

Here is the layout:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)


Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.

Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.

Is there a specific controller I should have selected?

How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 15 March 2018, 13:14:10
Built the board and no worky  :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.

Here is the layout:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)


Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.

Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.

Is there a specific controller I should have selected?

How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.

Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode.  I really hoped for better support on this PCB.  Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional?  Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?

Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 15 March 2018, 13:36:06
Built the board and no worky  :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.

Here is the layout:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)


Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.

Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.

Is there a specific controller I should have selected?

How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.

Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode.  I really hoped for better support on this PCB.  Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional?  Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?

Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!

FYI:

https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 15 March 2018, 14:29:39
Has anyone tried holtites with this board? If so where did you purchase them from? The day my shipment arrives I'm probably going to order some. This PCB seems way too finicky with solder and I'm quite the novice at assembling a keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Thu, 15 March 2018, 16:06:12
Built the board and no worky  :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.

Here is the layout:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)


Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.

Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.

Is there a specific controller I should have selected?

How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.

Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode.  I really hoped for better support on this PCB.  Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional?  Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?

Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!

FYI:

https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper

Thanks guys. Previously I did this: "Short the LEFT CTRL on your PCB with a pair of tweezers/paperclip", but not working for me. I suspect it's the way I did it. While plugged in, I used tweezers to plug the two legs into the L-CTRL holes just as if it's a switch. Nothing happens. Then I used holtites to fix a switch into the L-CTRL (it's a loose fit for the holtites, but I made sure the leg touches the edge of the holes), holding the L-CTRL and plugged in. Again, nothing happened for me.

Pmed Yuktsi for help yesterday. Will report back if I resolved it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 16 March 2018, 00:29:53
Built the board and no worky  :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.

Here is the layout:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)


Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.

Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.

Is there a specific controller I should have selected?
Try checking the "toggle bootmapper" to map the keys, just hit upload when you are done.

Or you may load mine and upload
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zke3ar6fhgndk7k/keymap_gb_20170818211212.hex?dl=0
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Fri, 16 March 2018, 00:52:25
Built the board and no worky  :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.

Here is the layout:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)


Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.

Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.

Is there a specific controller I should have selected?

How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.

Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode.  I really hoped for better support on this PCB.  Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional?  Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?

Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!

FYI:

https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper

Thanks guys. Previously I did this: "Short the LEFT CTRL on your PCB with a pair of tweezers/paperclip", but not working for me. I suspect it's the way I did it. While plugged in, I used tweezers to plug the two legs into the L-CTRL holes just as if it's a switch. Nothing happens. Then I used holtites to fix a switch into the L-CTRL (it's a loose fit for the holtites, but I made sure the leg touches the edge of the holes), holding the L-CTRL and plugged in. Again, nothing happened for me.

Pmed Yuktsi for help yesterday. Will report back if I resolved it.

UPDATE: so I was able to get the board recognized thanks to yuktsi's advice. I have to short the backspace instead of L-Crtl. Then I firm up the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file. And went to Options and  changed the led number to 20, and then put it on. But only the bottom left three leds work.... What's going on here? 

Pic of my PCB having only three leds working: https://imgur.com/a/eDPBW

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 16 March 2018, 01:01:28
Built the board and no worky  :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.

Here is the layout:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)


Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.

Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.

Is there a specific controller I should have selected?

How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.

Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode.  I really hoped for better support on this PCB.  Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional?  Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?

Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!

FYI:

https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper

Thanks guys. Previously I did this: "Short the LEFT CTRL on your PCB with a pair of tweezers/paperclip", but not working for me. I suspect it's the way I did it. While plugged in, I used tweezers to plug the two legs into the L-CTRL holes just as if it's a switch. Nothing happens. Then I used holtites to fix a switch into the L-CTRL (it's a loose fit for the holtites, but I made sure the leg touches the edge of the holes), holding the L-CTRL and plugged in. Again, nothing happened for me.

Pmed Yuktsi for help yesterday. Will report back if I resolved it.

UPDATE: so I was able to get the board recognized thanks to yuktsi's advice. I have to short the backspace instead of L-Crtl. Then I firm up the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file. And went to Options and  changed the led number to 20, and then put it on. But only the bottom left three leds work.... What's going on here? 

Pic of my PCB having only three leds working: https://imgur.com/a/eDPBW

My guess is the led under the E, the first dead one, is either not fully soldered or is bad.  Basing this on a discussion in the 910 thread, and my experience with a TX1800.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91498.msg2577423#msg2577423
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 16 March 2018, 01:40:49
Built the board and no worky  :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.

Here is the layout:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)


Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.

Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.

Is there a specific controller I should have selected?

How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.

Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode.  I really hoped for better support on this PCB.  Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional?  Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?

Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!

FYI:

https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper

Thanks guys. Previously I did this: "Short the LEFT CTRL on your PCB with a pair of tweezers/paperclip", but not working for me. I suspect it's the way I did it. While plugged in, I used tweezers to plug the two legs into the L-CTRL holes just as if it's a switch. Nothing happens. Then I used holtites to fix a switch into the L-CTRL (it's a loose fit for the holtites, but I made sure the leg touches the edge of the holes), holding the L-CTRL and plugged in. Again, nothing happened for me.

Pmed Yuktsi for help yesterday. Will report back if I resolved it.

UPDATE: so I was able to get the board recognized thanks to yuktsi's advice. I have to short the backspace instead of L-Crtl. Then I firm up the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file. And went to Options and  changed the led number to 20, and then put it on. But only the bottom left three leds work.... What's going on here? 

Pic of my PCB having only three leds working: https://imgur.com/a/eDPBW
There has been a connection issue with the factory assembled RGB LEDs. We didn't have your LEDs reflowed because you don't need it with the aluminum bottom, also not advised to turn them on.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 16 March 2018, 01:45:34
Here's why. Thank you  :-\

(https://i.imgur.com/cq7rERG.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wongie on Fri, 16 March 2018, 03:37:40
There has been a connection issue with the factory assembled RGB LEDs. We didn't have your LEDs reflowed because you don't need it with the aluminum bottom, also not advised to turn them on.

What about people who ordered both aluminium and poly bottoms? Would they have have had their LEDs reflowed?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Fri, 16 March 2018, 03:59:59
Has anyone tried holtites with this board? If so where did you purchase them from? The day my shipment arrives I'm probably going to order some. This PCB seems way too finicky with solder and I'm quite the novice at assembling a keyboard.

I tried them, holes are too big and you'd need to solder them in, so at this point just solder the switches since it'll be easier than soldering holtites.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 16 March 2018, 05:47:36
There has been a connection issue with the factory assembled RGB LEDs. We didn't have your LEDs reflowed because you don't need it with the aluminum bottom, also not advised to turn them on.

What about people who ordered both aluminium and poly bottoms? Would they have have had their LEDs reflowed?
Yeah, of course.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wongie on Fri, 16 March 2018, 06:25:45
There has been a connection issue with the factory assembled RGB LEDs. We didn't have your LEDs reflowed because you don't need it with the aluminum bottom, also not advised to turn them on.

What about people who ordered both aluminium and poly bottoms? Would they have have had their LEDs reflowed?
Yeah, of course.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Fri, 16 March 2018, 09:16:29
Built the board and no worky  :(
All the LEDs lit up correctly the first time I plugged the board into the computer so I went ahead and soldered it.

Here is the layout:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/unfxvEX.jpg?1)


Bootmapper software doesn't see a keyboard at all.

Edit:
If I run BootMaper Client Ver 0.9.0 and select the Options tab and then "Firm Up(Select .hex File)" and push the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file then the LEDs will start working on the bottom.
Then if I go back to the Key Mapper tab and select "Download" then it tells me that every key is bad, and I can't upload a new layout.

Is there a specific controller I should have selected?

How do you get Bootmapper to see the board? My board is not recognized by the PC at all.

Man, I'm sorry, I'm not a microcontroller guy, but I would suggest holding down L-CTRL, as that seems to be the default key to get you into bootmapper mode.  I really hoped for better support on this PCB.  Maybe the designer/Yuktsi can shed some light on how to get the PCBs functional?  Or then again, we might have to do this as a community?

Let us know of any progress and we'll do our best to help!

FYI:

https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper

Thanks guys. Previously I did this: "Short the LEFT CTRL on your PCB with a pair of tweezers/paperclip", but not working for me. I suspect it's the way I did it. While plugged in, I used tweezers to plug the two legs into the L-CTRL holes just as if it's a switch. Nothing happens. Then I used holtites to fix a switch into the L-CTRL (it's a loose fit for the holtites, but I made sure the leg touches the edge of the holes), holding the L-CTRL and plugged in. Again, nothing happened for me.

Pmed Yuktsi for help yesterday. Will report back if I resolved it.

UPDATE: so I was able to get the board recognized thanks to yuktsi's advice. I have to short the backspace instead of L-Crtl. Then I firm up the "ps2avrGB_NKRO.hex" file. And went to Options and  changed the led number to 20, and then put it on. But only the bottom left three leds work.... What's going on here? 

Pic of my PCB having only three leds working: https://imgur.com/a/eDPBW
There has been a connection issue with the factory assembled RGB LEDs. We didn't have your LEDs reflowed because you don't need it with the aluminum bottom, also not advised to turn them on.

fair enough.. but I do actually hope one day I could buy a poly bottom from someone to try. How hard is it to reflow it myself? 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Fri, 16 March 2018, 09:33:24
Has anyone tried holtites with this board? If so where did you purchase them from? The day my shipment arrives I'm probably going to order some. This PCB seems way too finicky with solder and I'm quite the novice at assembling a keyboard.

I tried them, holes are too big and you'd need to solder them in, so at this point just solder the switches since it'll be easier than soldering holtites.

do you have to fill the hole with solder or you just have to make sure it's fixed in the hole (not moving)?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zhihuichan on Fri, 16 March 2018, 10:43:38
As I posted above, I can not weld the keyboard at this time.
But I try to remap the keyboard and reflow the colorful LEDs fellowing the tutorial on GitHub. It's really easy to reflow LEDs. I still do not get the point of custom Macro and What's Dual Action?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 17 March 2018, 05:02:30
AHHHHHHH! Just received it like 5min ago! It feel amazing, look perfect <3! The packaging was insane , impossible for it to get damage on transit. I will post unboxing and building pics this afternoon.

The wait was long, but in 30s holding it the only thing I can think of is « worth it ». Hang tight in there for those who are still waiting !
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 17 March 2018, 05:23:11
Here is the unboxing: https://imgur.com/gallery/FLDz0
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zhihuichan on Sat, 17 March 2018, 05:39:56
Here is the unboxing: https://imgur.com/gallery/FLDz0
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6NDJcz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fAPFgO1.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PoisonHeadcrab on Sat, 17 March 2018, 06:26:36
Quick question, as I'm still one of those waiting patiently: How do I know when it ships? Do I just get an email with the tracking number, or do I have to check PayPal manually?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koojahyung on Sat, 17 March 2018, 06:44:33
yuktsi. please check mine (alu-bottom)
as I knew,it was already start to shipping in 1 march.(about 3weeks ago)
but there is no any moving yet.
there is any problem?? I'm worried because there is no response about this problem.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 17 March 2018, 06:59:55
Here is the unboxing: https://imgur.com/gallery/FLDz0
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Y6NDJcz.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/fAPFgO1.jpg)


I checked but it miss the little rubber pad. Not a big deal, I have some on my own, it is really cheap things.

Also good news, When I plugged the PCB all the led lights up so it seem my pcb is okay.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 17 March 2018, 07:38:46
Small question, the polarity of inswitch led is not written anywhere on the pcb. I need help here :3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Sat, 17 March 2018, 08:05:03
Quick question, as I'm still one of those waiting patiently: How do I know when it ships? Do I just get an email with the tracking number, or do I have to check PayPal manually?

You're not the only one. I've yet to receive tracking as well and I don't even have a premium kit, just alu bottom.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 17 March 2018, 09:34:03
An update:

I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow

Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.

Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.

I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:

Down Arrow:
(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)

Left Shift:
(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)

]}:
(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)

=+:
(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 17 March 2018, 10:16:21
An update:

I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow

Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.

Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.

I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:

Down Arrow:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)


Left Shift:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)


]}:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)


=+:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)

It seems like the entire column is not functioning. Most likely the pin on the MCU is not properly soldered. Also, you could use a small rubber washer to avoid the screw from shorting the PCB.

Send me a PM, I will check with the designer of the PCB to identity the pin.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 17 March 2018, 10:19:35
Small question, the polarity of inswitch led is not written anywhere on the pcb. I need help here :3
Negative is the one that connects the ground, the pad that is not connected to any track. You could also tell by shorting a LED without soldering.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 17 March 2018, 11:12:02
Small question, the polarity of inswitch led is not written anywhere on the pcb. I need help here :3
Negative is the one that connects the ground, the pad that is not connected to any track. You could also tell by shorting a LED without soldering.

Yeah I finally figure it myself. Just finish programming with bootmaper! Still have some issue with some inswitch led (not the caps lock scroll on and num lock) but some of the bottom row such as the three  controle on bottom left + two other on bottom row on the right. Do you have any idea? look like since i am using a split spacebar it did not light up the correct one.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Sat, 17 March 2018, 11:34:11
It seems like the entire column is not functioning. Most likely the pin on the MCU is not properly soldered. Also, you could use a small rubber washer to avoid the screw from shorting the PCB.

Send me a PM, I will check with the designer of the PCB to identity the pin.

In the close up picture of the shift soldering I saw something weird looking so I cleaned it up a bit, and the other switches too and now everything is working!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 17 March 2018, 11:56:23
An update:

I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow

Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.

Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.

I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:

Down Arrow:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)


Left Shift:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)


]}:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)


=+:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)


I just built using screw-in zeal stab and no issue with them.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Zackfoo on Sat, 17 March 2018, 12:57:37
Insane anodizing quality. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180317/91d4dad54d7fdb84dfd43d46808195bf.jpg)

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sat, 17 March 2018, 13:12:49
Insane anodizing quality.
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180317/91d4dad54d7fdb84dfd43d46808195bf.jpg)


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Agreed ! My dark gray is amazing!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Sun, 18 March 2018, 00:51:39
An update:

I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow

Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.

Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.

I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:

Down Arrow:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)


Left Shift:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)


]}:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)


=+:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)


Unfortunately I have a similar issue. Some keys don't register. For me it's the whole row starting from the L-SHIFT to the UP-ARROW (so that the whole row except the key to the right of UP-ARROW). I also use zeal stab but don't think that's the problem.

Think I got a bad PCB. @Yuktsi, do you have any idea?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Sun, 18 March 2018, 01:41:41
An update:

I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow

Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.

Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.

I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:

Down Arrow:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)


Left Shift:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)


]}:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)


=+:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)


Unfortunately I have a similar issue. Some keys don't register. For me it's the whole row starting from the L-SHIFT to the UP-ARROW (so that the whole row except the key to the right of UP-ARROW). I also use zeal stab but don't think that's the problem.

Think I got a bad PCB. @Yuktsi, do you have any idea?

Since you mentioned using zeal stab, I think you have already soldering the switches.
Didn't you test the PCB before soldering?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: danielucf on Sun, 18 March 2018, 01:52:35
An update:

I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow

Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.

Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.

I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:

Down Arrow:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)


Left Shift:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)


]}:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)


=+:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)


Unfortunately I have a similar issue. Some keys don't register. For me it's the whole row starting from the L-SHIFT to the UP-ARROW (so that the whole row except the key to the right of UP-ARROW). I also use zeal stab but don't think that's the problem.

Think I got a bad PCB. @Yuktsi, do you have any idea?

Since you mentioned using zeal stab, I think you have already soldering the switches.
Didn't you test the PCB before soldering?
No, who does that? In all my years I have never had a bad PCB

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Sun, 18 March 2018, 08:53:28
An update:

I followed the directions on the page that MaNiFeX provided (https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper) and have gotten a little more functionality but the following keys don't do anything when pressed:
=+, ]}, Right Shift, and Down Arrow

Is it possible that those keys comprise an entire section? The soldering looks pretty good for them, but I'll double check.

Part of my issue it seems was screws from Zeal stabilizers. I took them all off and keys that were either not working, or thought they were permanently pressed down stopped behaving that way. Any screw that looked like it touched something it shouldn't I put a little spacer so it wouldn't make contact. Obviously that wasn't effective.

I decided to take pictures of the soldering around the keys in question:

Down Arrow:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/urjBKZK.jpg)


Left Shift:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/M2Qj2ht.jpg)


]}:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OCeRe12.jpg)


=+:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/h1SJexA.jpg)


Unfortunately I have a similar issue. Some keys don't register. For me it's the whole row starting from the L-SHIFT to the UP-ARROW (so that the whole row except the key to the right of UP-ARROW). I also use zeal stab but don't think that's the problem.

Think I got a bad PCB. @Yuktsi, do you have any idea?

Since you mentioned using zeal stab, I think you have already soldering the switches.
Didn't you test the PCB before soldering?
I used hostites and haven't soldered yet. but every other key works except that row.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Sun, 18 March 2018, 09:13:09
Still checking this thread everyday and waiting for my Exent. :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Sun, 18 March 2018, 09:16:15
My build is finished! 100% okay. I had to reverse the polarity of 6 in switch led on the bottom row (be careful if you solder inswitch led, they are all in one polarity orientation except on the bottom row depending on your layout ! So check before for bottom row). I also had to move the three resistor on caps/num/scroll lock to change the behaviour of the led to just light up with the other one instead of being asignated to the "lock" function.

I will post some nice pics later today I think :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Sun, 18 March 2018, 10:40:05
Is it normal to have a premium kit without any tracking number or anything? Any other premium kits in the US not have any?

I believe the keysets aren't in possession of gb runners yet. I opted for my shipping to get split, which means my keyset/switches will get sent at a later date.
How can I opt into this haha? At this point I rather have the board and wait on the keys
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sun, 18 March 2018, 10:46:29
Is it normal to have a premium kit without any tracking number or anything? Any other premium kits in the US not have any?

I believe the keysets aren't in possession of gb runners yet. I opted for my shipping to get split, which means my keyset/switches will get sent at a later date.
How can I opt into this haha? At this point I rather have the board and wait on the keys

PM'd and was asking about refunds with the previous(also fake) statement about it. Yuktsi says he's gonna ship mine and shoulder cost of shipping the set/switches at a later date, i took it. No reason to do it at this point, though since the keysets are arriving or should be arriving soon if OCO did drop them off at the time they said they would.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sun, 18 March 2018, 13:33:27
On the topic of keyset, does anyone who has received their Exent also have "Matt3o /dev/tty"? I'm joining R2 and am curious about how it looks on the Exent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Sun, 18 March 2018, 18:58:33
What a disaster.  This keyboard is a piece of ****.  Bootmapper goes into an infinite reboot loop every time I try to flash a keymap and I'm pretty sure I have an entire column not connected.  Whoever did QA on these boards should be shot.  TARO is ****ing worthless and nobody associated with this GB should ever be allowed near a keyboard again.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sun, 18 March 2018, 19:46:11
What a disaster.  This keyboard is a piece of ****.  Bootmapper goes into an infinite reboot loop every time I try to flash a keymap and I'm pretty sure I have an entire column not connected.  Whoever did QA on these boards should be shot.  TARO is ****ing worthless and nobody associated with this GB should ever be allowed near a keyboard again.

Ugh fuk i'm starting to worry when i get my board later.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Sun, 18 March 2018, 21:27:06
Still can't get the PCB working. Is there a possibility to get a replacement PCB?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 19 March 2018, 00:40:50
Still can't get the PCB working. Is there a possibility to get a replacement PCB?
What's the problem with it? Did you see my post about my issue?

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 19 March 2018, 01:21:11
My z row isn't responding at all.

any way to fix this?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Mon, 19 March 2018, 03:48:13
What a disaster.  This keyboard is a piece of ****.  Bootmapper goes into an infinite reboot loop every time I try to flash a keymap and I'm pretty sure I have an entire column not connected.  Whoever did QA on these boards should be shot.  TARO is ****ing worthless and nobody associated with this GB should ever be allowed near a keyboard again.

At first I didn’t know about a macos version of bootmapper (I only run on macos). So I created a virtual machine with windows 10, and it failed very hard to flash anything on the keyboard. But then I discovered the native macos version of bootmapper and it work like a charm. So I don’t know which setup you used, but maybe it can be a source of issue if you use a virtual machine.

I did not face any other issue while flashing, all my keys are working, strange issue that some have :/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 19 March 2018, 04:50:37
What a disaster.  This keyboard is a piece of ****.  Bootmapper goes into an infinite reboot loop every time I try to flash a keymap and I'm pretty sure I have an entire column not connected.  Whoever did QA on these boards should be shot.  TARO is ****ing worthless and nobody associated with this GB should ever be allowed near a keyboard again.

At first I didn’t know about a macos version of bootmapper (I only run on macos). So I created a virtual machine with windows 10, and it failed very hard to flash anything on the keyboard. But then I discovered the native macos version of bootmapper and it work like a charm. So I don’t know which setup you used, but maybe it can be a source of issue if you use a virtual machine.

I did not face any other issue while flashing, all my keys are working, strange issue that some have :/

Presumably its with the initial soldering of the board. People, including me, with row/column problems can't do anything software wise to fix the problems. I'm pretty much unable to mess with smd components so i'll need to go to some shop to get mine repaired. Quite annoying, to be honest, but better than a **** looking board with a perfectly working pcb.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Mon, 19 March 2018, 08:00:53
Still can't get the PCB working. Is there a possibility to get a replacement PCB?
What's the problem with it? Did you see my post about my issue?

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row starting from the left shift not working at all.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 19 March 2018, 08:29:01
Oh okay, and the other keys work?

Have you tried resetting the prom thingy like I did in the software?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Mon, 19 March 2018, 08:33:45
Oh okay, and the other keys work?

Have you tried resetting the prom thingy like I did in the software?
yea, tried everything software/firmware wise without success. It could be the MCU soldering. Might need to add some solder to the pins around the MCU

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 19 March 2018, 08:41:48
Oh okay, and the other keys work?

Have you tried resetting the prom thingy like I did in the software?
yea, tried everything software/firmware wise without success. It could be the MCU soldering. Might need to add some solder to the pins around the MCU

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Damn, sorry dude, I know the feeling too well by now. I couldn't find rest until I had fixed my problem.

Hope you succeed

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Mon, 19 March 2018, 15:59:03
Oh okay, and the other keys work?

Have you tried resetting the prom thingy like I did in the software?
yea, tried everything software/firmware wise without success. It could be the MCU soldering. Might need to add some solder to the pins around the MCU

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Damn, sorry dude, I know the feeling too well by now. I couldn't find rest until I had fixed my problem.

Hope you succeed

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thx man. Think we are kind of on our own at this point. What makes me sad is everything else looks perfect, but they are useless w/o a working PCB
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 19 March 2018, 17:06:24
So many broken PCBs. I'm glad I ordered two. Surely I can get one of them working. If the Premium kits ever ship, that is.

For those with recent issues, did said issues exist before soldering? I'm assuming some yes and some no, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 19 March 2018, 17:24:11
So many broken PCBs. I'm glad I ordered two. Surely I can get one of them working. If the Premium kits ever ship, that is.

For those with recent issues, did said issues exist before soldering? I'm assuming some yes and some no, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

It's kind of amazing. I figured after the initial LED fiasco the PCBs would start getting better, but somehow the opposite has happened. What the ****? Just what the **** is going on with this group buy?

I guess, like, thanks Yuktsi for being literally the only one actually communicating with us at all, but, jesus christ, you guys seriously need to collective pull your heads out of your asses.

My favorite part of this has been the total abandonment by every single person involved (except, to be fair, Yuktsi). I honestly was kinda hoping that the more I pissed and moaned about the other names attached to this they would come in here and, I dunno, offer some kind of support but goddamn they've impressed even me with their total apathy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Mon, 19 March 2018, 17:29:07
So many broken PCBs. I'm glad I ordered two. Surely I can get one of them working. If the Premium kits ever ship, that is.

For those with recent issues, did said issues exist before soldering? I'm assuming some yes and some no, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.
I used the hostiles to hold the switches in place, no soldering yet. So I'm 100% sure it's not me that broke it.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 19 March 2018, 17:29:13
soooo when's that exent replacement pcb run and who's running it? also replacement poly bottom run. thanks.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 19 March 2018, 17:31:12
soooo when's that exent replacement pcb run and who's running it? also replacement poly bottom run. thanks.

FYI if someone does a PCB + plate run I'm in 100%.

I've asked repeatedly for the PCB and plate CAD files to be released to us to no avail, so someone is going to have to take up designing them.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Mon, 19 March 2018, 17:37:32
I'm alao in if that ever happen. We could also combine the demand with the TGR910 folks if it use the same PCB.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 19 March 2018, 19:04:17
Currently have not soldered anything yet. I have tested everything with just shorting the pads.

Also coincidentally left shift row is not working as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Mon, 19 March 2018, 21:06:23
Considering the quality of the soldering on these boards to date, I'd imagine retouching the solder on the appropriate MCU pin will restore that row's functionality if you have a soldering iron with a fine enough tip, fine enough diameter solder, and a steady enough hand.

If you're not confident in your skills, farm it out cause bridging those pins is hella easy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Mon, 19 March 2018, 21:32:11
Guys, I've been patiently waiting and staying out of this thread with my requests for attention.

The tracking number I have been provided with in December is invalid according to SF Express. Can you please provide a view on where the keyboard I ordered and paid for is?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 19 March 2018, 21:39:28
Considering the quality of the soldering on these boards to date, I'd imagine retouching the solder on the appropriate MCU pin will restore that row's functionality if you have a soldering iron with a fine enough tip, fine enough diameter solder, and a steady enough hand.

If you're not confident in your skills, farm it out cause bridging those pins is hella easy.

Yeah i assume its not actually that hard, only problem is my current iron has gone to **** and i have ****ty hands. Such a shame, tried typing on it for a bit and fell in love with it instantly. Can't wait to get some news to get it sorted out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 19 March 2018, 21:48:01
FYI if someone does a PCB + plate run I'm in 100%.

I've asked repeatedly for the PCB and plate CAD files to be released to us to no avail, so someone is going to have to take up designing them.

How unfortunate. You'd think someone would provide those files. It's not like your asking for the frame design or polycarbonate and aluminum bottom files. PCB and plate CADs seem reasonable. Hopefully nobody is keeping those private on purpose to force us to buy spare parts if/when they show up on a marketplace like Originative or something.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Tue, 20 March 2018, 00:47:28
Hi guys, I've managed to get the MCU diagrams from the PCB guy. If anyone has any issue with not functional row or column, do send me a PM
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 20 March 2018, 06:40:31
Considering the quality of the soldering on these boards to date, I'd imagine retouching the solder on the appropriate MCU pin will restore that row's functionality if you have a soldering iron with a fine enough tip, fine enough diameter solder, and a steady enough hand.

If you're not confident in your skills, farm it out cause bridging those pins is hella easy.

Using flux helps too!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Tue, 20 March 2018, 07:10:35
Has anyone tried holtites with this board? If so where did you purchase them from? The day my shipment arrives I'm probably going to order some. This PCB seems way too finicky with solder and I'm quite the novice at assembling a keyboard.

I tried them, holes are too big and you'd need to solder them in, so at this point just solder the switches since it'll be easier than soldering holtites.

do you have to fill the hole with solder or you just have to make sure it's fixed in the hole (not moving)?

Hey mate sorry for the late reply. The ones I tried, I just applied some solder outside the holtite to "fix" them in the hole. They are too big for the holtites but not too much so it's not necessary to add solder before getting them in.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zhihuichan on Tue, 20 March 2018, 21:43:08
I soldered last night. I tested the PCB before soldering. It works well.
But no response when I connect the keyboard to PC after soldering. I checked everything I can. Finally I found it’s the screws from stabilizer. I removed the screws. It works again!  Screws short some switches.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zhihuichan on Tue, 20 March 2018, 21:52:19
And I find bootmapper client for Mac on Winkeyless.kr
blog.winkeyless.kr/183 (http://blog.winkeyless.kr/183)
But I test on MacBook Pro 2017, it doesn’t work.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 21 March 2018, 06:56:14
I soldered last night. I tested the PCB before soldering. It works well.
But no response when I connect the keyboard to PC after soldering. I checked everything I can. Finally I found it’s the screws from stabilizer. I removed the screws. It works again!  Screws short some switches.

I'm gonna be so pissed if that's what my problem is...

Any idea what nylon washers would work with Zeal screw-in stabilizers?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 21 March 2018, 07:04:29
I soldered last night. I tested the PCB before soldering. It works well.
But no response when I connect the keyboard to PC after soldering. I checked everything I can. Finally I found it’s the screws from stabilizer. I removed the screws. It works again!  Screws short some switches.

I'm gonna be so pissed if that's what my problem is...

Any idea what nylon washers would work with Zeal screw-in stabilizers?
What about some electric tape?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 21 March 2018, 07:05:55
I soldered last night. I tested the PCB before soldering. It works well.
But no response when I connect the keyboard to PC after soldering. I checked everything I can. Finally I found it’s the screws from stabilizer. I removed the screws. It works again!  Screws short some switches.

I'm gonna be so pissed if that's what my problem is...

Any idea what nylon washers would work with Zeal screw-in stabilizers?
What about some electric tape?

Other than it looks like poop?  I suppose it could work in a pinch, or just for testing.  Maybe I'll try it.  Doesn't seem like a good long-term solution to me though.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 21 March 2018, 09:21:19
I soldered last night. I tested the PCB before soldering. It works well.
But no response when I connect the keyboard to PC after soldering. I checked everything I can. Finally I found it’s the screws from stabilizer. I removed the screws. It works again!  Screws short some switches.

I'm gonna be so pissed if that's what my problem is...

Any idea what nylon washers would work with Zeal screw-in stabilizers?
What about some electric tape?

Other than it looks like poop?  I suppose it could work in a pinch, or just for testing.  Maybe I'll try it.  Doesn't seem like a good long-term solution to me though.

Electrical tape or even some kapton tape are good long-term solution. I'm not sure why you wouldn't think so. These parts aren't subjected to any great thermal or mechanical loading. Heck, a piece of paper will work as well if you're in a pinch.

On my previous builds using screwed stabs, I used small strips of transparent vinyl stickers mainly because I have some lying around. No problems at all
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 21 March 2018, 09:24:40
What about some electric tape?

That's what I was planning to try when my set arrives. Washers would probably be better, but eh. Last time I checked the hardware store I had problems finding a plastic washer small enough to work. Maybe I was looking in the wrong area.

Although if it's like everyone else's, TARO will forget my stabs. And if that's the case I'll just buy some standard PCB clip in stabs and not worry with it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 21 March 2018, 12:14:43
Guys, I've been patiently waiting and staying out of this thread with my requests for attention.

The tracking number I have been provided with in December is invalid according to SF Express. Can you please provide a view on where the keyboard I ordered and paid for is?

PM Yuksti, he's the only person responding in this group buy.

It's kind of amazing. I figured after the initial LED fiasco the PCBs would start getting better, but somehow the opposite has happened. What the ****? Just what the **** is going on with this group buy?

I guess, like, thanks Yuktsi for being literally the only one actually communicating with us at all, but, jesus christ, you guys seriously need to collective pull your heads out of your asses.

My favorite part of this has been the total abandonment by every single person involved (except, to be fair, Yuktsi). I honestly was kinda hoping that the more I pissed and moaned about the other names attached to this they would come in here and, I dunno, offer some kind of support but goddamn they've impressed even me with their total apathy.

I'm in complete agreement.  Yuktsi is doing a good job at communicating about the logistics of the group buy, but leadership is sorely lacking from TGR, Aconic, RAMA, and Originative.

I have bought from Sherry before and, ****, he's even sent me stuff for my meetups in Portland.  Despite hearing lots of issues previously, I've never had any with his services until now.

I've said this before, but I think it would do the community good to have some sort of statement from the designers and organizers.  I don't advocate brigading other threads or badgering them, it should be done on their own accord.  Having not done so (and I'm assuming the same into the future), I don't know why anyone would do business with them after this GB. 

I'm really hoping for some leadership/resolution/statement here to, at least, salvage the dignity of the GB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 21 March 2018, 13:41:39
Any idea what nylon washers would work with Zeal screw-in stabilizers?

What about some electric tape?

That's what I was planning to try when my set arrives. Washers would probably be better, but eh. Last time I checked the hardware store I had problems finding a plastic washer small enough to work. Maybe I was looking in the wrong area.

A UV set liquid plastic would probably work really well as well if you guys are looking for alternatives to washers, and would look a little cleaner than tape
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 21 March 2018, 14:37:22
Somebody (the Hero of 2018) offered to send me some M2 nylon screws that should take care of the issue.  Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Wed, 21 March 2018, 15:39:21
Somebody (the Hero of 2018) offered to send me some M2 nylon screws that should take care of the issue.  Fingers crossed.

Just had issue on m65a pcb with screw in stab, a tape on pcb and then a little hole and screw back in did the trick for me. No issue with my screw in stab on the EXENT (I only have 4x 2u stab for enter, lshift and two space bar)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Wed, 21 March 2018, 21:47:26
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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 21 March 2018, 23:42:39
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.

**** it. I'm out.

Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.

Dibs?  But really, don't go! 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: p_blaze on Wed, 21 March 2018, 23:49:42
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.

**** it. I'm out.

Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.

Dibs?  But really, don't go!
my dibs>ur dibs  :p :p
but sometimes it's better to leave a hobby before you start to truly hate it. I left the MOBA scene and I'm happy I did so before it started getting too toxic for me. You have to draw the line somewhere for when a hobby is just not something that you enjoy, and if I were in ctzn's position, I'd probably be leaving the hobby as well; waiting more than a year for a keyboard is not something I could tolerate. If he leaves the hobby without a taste too bitter in his mouth, it will remain a worthwhile experience in hindsight, as opposed to one filled with anticipation for a product long overdue. It's hard to explain properly, but it's like preserving the memory of the experience. You quit while you're ahead, in a sense.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 22 March 2018, 00:40:55
I'm pissed off but damn I'm not gonna leave the hobby. Juahenza needs to be kicked out, among others.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: foxlive on Thu, 22 March 2018, 04:08:18
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.

**** it. I'm out.

Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.

You missed my post, they exist! I have received mine and I got an alu bottom version ^^’
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Thu, 22 March 2018, 06:43:54
I'm in complete agreement.  Yuktsi is doing a good job at communicating about the logistics of the group buy, but leadership is sorely lacking from TGR, Aconic, RAMA, and Originative.

I have bought from Sherry before and, ****, he's even sent me stuff for my meetups in Portland.  Despite hearing lots of issues previously, I've never had any with his services until now.

I've said this before, but I think it would do the community good to have some sort of statement from the designers and organizers.  I don't advocate brigading other threads or badgering them, it should be done on their own accord.  Having not done so (and I'm assuming the same into the future), I don't know why anyone would do business with them after this GB. 

I'm really hoping for some leadership/resolution/statement here to, at least, salvage the dignity of the GB.

I personally don't fully agree with this.  Yes their names are on it, but I believe Juahenza should be the one held accountable.  He commissioned the design, he ran the IC and GB, this is HIS gb that he is ignoring.  All Rama did was design the case, that's all he is/was responsible for.  Sherry arranged the caps/switches, which to my understanding the hold up there, surprisingly enough was due to lack of communication and he also picked up extra kits to help with moq.  Yuktsi helped with things and bless him for at least attempting to try and keep us updated, but this is not his gb.

Choosing not to do business with any of them is obviously your choice, but for now, the only one I'm pissed off about is Juahenza.

This GB has been a dumpster fire.  That I can 100% agree with.  Garbage pcb's, broken bottoms, delay after delay, complete lack of communication and transparency.  100% regret.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ctzn_voyager on Thu, 22 March 2018, 07:33:02
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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Thu, 22 March 2018, 09:13:25
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.

**** it. I'm out.

Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.

Dibs?  But really, don't go!

yutski, please send my exent order to MaNiFeX.

And thank you to everyone who sent messages, really means a lot. After taking inventory of my collection, this could be trickier than I thought... I may donate most of my boards to a local school and just sell keycaps.

Did you mean it? Gook luck with your life.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 22 March 2018, 09:57:17
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.

**** it. I'm out.

Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.

I've been building toward this conclusion also.  Exent was the final straw.  I'm not looking forward to troubleshooting these PCB problems, and if it comes down to desoldering I will just throw it in the damn trash.  A rash of flakey, shyster group buys recently, and a community seemingly reluctant to hold them accountable, have forced me to step away from the hobby -- I have enough keyboards.  It isn't worth the stress and heartache.

I might still join the SBXX case GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92403.0).  It's simple enough that Plastik should be able to pull it off without too much issue, and he's got a really good prototype.  The guy obviously knows what he's doing. 

I'm also vaguely looking forward to the Kira, if Input Club ever gets it off the ground.  And clearly I'm going to stick around for Round 2 of Danger Zone later in the year.  But beyond that... I'm over it.  Time to move on.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 22 March 2018, 10:13:50
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.

**** it. I'm out.

Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.

I've been building toward this conclusion also.  Exent was the final straw.  I'm not looking forward to troubleshooting these PCB problems, and if it comes down to desoldering I will just throw it in the damn trash.  A rash of flakey, shyster group buys recently, and a community seemingly reluctant to hold them accountable, have forced me to step away from the hobby -- I have enough keyboards.  It isn't worth the stress and heartache.

I might still join the SBXX case GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92403.0).  It's simple enough that Plastik should be able to pull it off without too much issue, and he's got a really good prototype.  The guy obviously knows what he's doing. 

I'm also vaguely looking forward to the Kira, if Input Club ever gets it off the ground.  And clearly I'm going to stick around for Round 2 of Danger Zone later in the year.  But beyond that... I'm over it.  Time to move on.


I’ve been feeling kinda the same way too lately. And I didn’t even get in on the exent. I’m debating liquidating my collection and going barebones. With that said, R2 Danger Zone???
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Koobaczech on Thu, 22 March 2018, 10:34:04
I’ve been feeling kinda the same way too lately. And I didn’t even get in on the exent. I’m debating liquidating my collection and going barebones. With that said, R2 Danger Zone???
Mike nuuuuuu
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 22 March 2018, 10:44:25
I’ve been feeling kinda the same way too lately. And I didn’t even get in on the exent. I’m debating liquidating my collection and going barebones. With that said, R2 Danger Zone???
Mike nuuuuuu

Lol. I’m keeping my boards, just might let go of a lot of my keysets.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 22 March 2018, 10:58:02

I’ve been feeling kinda the same way too lately. And I didn’t even get in on the exent. I’m debating liquidating my collection and going barebones. With that said, R2 Danger Zone???

ya boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Q4 2018.  Keep an eye on the IC thread:  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68563.0

Oblotsky is working on some sick renders for me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 22 March 2018, 10:59:15
I'm in complete agreement.  Yuktsi is doing a good job at communicating about the logistics of the group buy, but leadership is sorely lacking from TGR, Aconic, RAMA, and Originative.

I have bought from Sherry before and, ****, he's even sent me stuff for my meetups in Portland.  Despite hearing lots of issues previously, I've never had any with his services until now.

I've said this before, but I think it would do the community good to have some sort of statement from the designers and organizers.  I don't advocate brigading other threads or badgering them, it should be done on their own accord.  Having not done so (and I'm assuming the same into the future), I don't know why anyone would do business with them after this GB. 

I'm really hoping for some leadership/resolution/statement here to, at least, salvage the dignity of the GB.

I personally don't fully agree with this.  Yes their names are on it, but I believe Juahenza should be the one held accountable.  He commissioned the design, he ran the IC and GB, this is HIS gb that he is ignoring.  All Rama did was design the case, that's all he is/was responsible for.  Sherry arranged the caps/switches, which to my understanding the hold up there, surprisingly enough was due to lack of communication and he also picked up extra kits to help with moq.  Yuktsi helped with things and bless him for at least attempting to try and keep us updated, but this is not his gb.

Choosing not to do business with any of them is obviously your choice, but for now, the only one I'm pissed off about is Juahenza.

This GB has been a dumpster fire.  That I can 100% agree with.  Garbage pcb's, broken bottoms, delay after delay, complete lack of communication and transparency.  100% regret.

Pwner, I completely see your point/perspective.  Thanks for setting the record straight on how this GB was set up.  Yuktsi is a god-send.  I can't believe the amount of work he/she is putting into this GB.

I did not know this was only Juahenza's group buy since there are many names attached to it.  Sherry can't help GMK's schedule, so I get that.  Props to him for helping with the sets.  I didn't know that RAMA only did case design, but that makes sense, as he is mostly a designer... 

Thank you for setting some things straight.  I'm not pissed at anyone, especially since my board is in the mail, albeit untrackable.  Regardless, the product was marketed as a team effort.  I'm not boycotting anyone, but it would be nice for someone with some clout could help move the GB in a better direction.  All it takes is some communication.  Juahenza's probably busy or doesn't frequent this forum, but really, it doesn't take much to give a little explanation or to rally the troops.  Even if it was from one of the other players.  Keeping people wondering is bad form.

Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.

**** it. I'm out.

Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.

Dibs?  But really, don't go!

yutski, please send my exent order to MaNiFeX.

And thank you to everyone who sent messages, really means a lot. After taking inventory of my collection, this could be trickier than I thought... I may donate most of my boards to a local school and just sell keycaps.

Wow dude.  I'll get you back with some cash.  I'll send you a PM to get your details.


Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.

**** it. I'm out.

Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.

I've been building toward this conclusion also.  Exent was the final straw.  I'm not looking forward to troubleshooting these PCB problems, and if it comes down to desoldering I will just throw it in the damn trash.  A rash of flakey, shyster group buys recently, and a community seemingly reluctant to hold them accountable, have forced me to step away from the hobby -- I have enough keyboards.  It isn't worth the stress and heartache.

I might still join the SBXX case GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92403.0).  It's simple enough that Plastik should be able to pull it off without too much issue, and he's got a really good prototype.  The guy obviously knows what he's doing. 

I'm also vaguely looking forward to the Kira, if Input Club ever gets it off the ground.  And clearly I'm going to stick around for Round 2 of Danger Zone later in the year.  But beyond that... I'm over it.  Time to move on.


I’ve been feeling kinda the same way too lately. And I didn’t even get in on the exent. I’m debating liquidating my collection and going barebones. With that said, R2 Danger Zone???

Man...  I've been debating selling most my stuff.  It's getting a little heavy for me too.  Also considering running a second group buy.  This hobby is both gratifying and tough.  I got my ass chewed out by some douche for posting a discussion thread on /r/mk.  lol. 

Oh well.  Only time will tell.  Let's do our best to stay positive!  I'm sure we can all figure out our PCB issues/bottom replacements and move on.  Thanks all who made this possible and are helping move toward the conclusion of this GB. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 22 March 2018, 11:21:33
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.

**** it. I'm out.

Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.

I've been building toward this conclusion also.  Exent was the final straw.  I'm not looking forward to troubleshooting these PCB problems, and if it comes down to desoldering I will just throw it in the damn trash.  A rash of flakey, shyster group buys recently, and a community seemingly reluctant to hold them accountable, have forced me to step away from the hobby -- I have enough keyboards.  It isn't worth the stress and heartache.

I might still join the SBXX case GB (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92403.0).  It's simple enough that Plastik should be able to pull it off without too much issue, and he's got a really good prototype.  The guy obviously knows what he's doing. 

I'm also vaguely looking forward to the Kira, if Input Club ever gets it off the ground.  And clearly I'm going to stick around for Round 2 of Danger Zone later in the year.  But beyond that... I'm over it.  Time to move on.

Hey data before you throw it in the trash send it to me maybe?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 22 March 2018, 11:43:42

I’ve been feeling kinda the same way too lately. And I didn’t even get in on the exent. I’m debating liquidating my collection and going barebones. With that said, R2 Danger Zone???

ya boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Q4 2018.  Keep an eye on the IC thread:  https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68563.0

Oblotsky is working on some sick renders for me.

That's awesome news. Danger Zone was my first keyset and what got me into mech keebs in the first place.  ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 22 March 2018, 12:20:09
I may not be done with this hobby, but I definitely understand where you guys are coming from. I'm really new to the mechanical keyboards scene, so I haven't been burnt as much as most of you. But I've been a part of four GBs, and I can count on one finger how many of them went smoothly (UK78). And even at that the PCB has issues.

I'll be doing a lot more research if I join more groupbuys for something expensive like keyboards or premium keysets. And that's certainly an "if". I'm pretty content with what I have so I don't expect to be buying much more unless it's something I really want from someone I can really trust.

Also considering running a second group buy.

Is it a bit early to ask what you'll be offering? I scrolled through your Stormtrooper GB and was very satisfied with how you ran that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KaosJ on Thu, 22 March 2018, 12:34:06
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.

**** it. I'm out.

Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.

I would like to pay for it

EDIT: i guess i'm late  :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 22 March 2018, 13:06:45
I may not be done with this hobby, but I definitely understand where you guys are coming from. I'm really new to the mechanical keyboards scene, so I haven't been burnt as much as most of you. But I've been a part of four GBs, and I can count on one finger how many of them went smoothly (UK78). And even at that the PCB has issues.

I'll be doing a lot more research if I join more groupbuys for something expensive like keyboards or premium keysets. And that's certainly an "if". I'm pretty content with what I have so I don't expect to be buying much more unless it's something I really want from someone I can really trust.

Also considering running a second group buy.

Is it a bit early to ask what you'll be offering? I scrolled through your Stormtrooper GB and was very satisfied with how you ran that.

Thanks man, that means a lot!  I tried to keep it positive, constant updates, fun images, etc.  And most importantly reasonably priced.

I should probably put up an IC at this point, lol.  I hope someone doesn't beat me to this, so SHHHHHH!  Mums the word.   ;D

I'd like to do another GMK set - 40%/60%/65% dark gray/light gray or black/dark gray.  Color codes will be CR/N9, N9/CC, or N9/2B (which I really like).  Legends will either be CP or CR depending on colorway I decide.  N9/2B with CR legends would be dope, but so would traditional Dolch.

If I go Dolch, the tentative name with be Dolch Sixty Forty or Dolch Mini.  If I do my own colorway, will most likely be GMK Sixty Forty.

Thoughts?  I'll post up once I make an interest check.  I've got a bit of homework to do.  I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark.  Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.

I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again.  What do you think? 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 22 March 2018, 13:14:14

Thanks man, that means a lot!  I tried to keep it positive, constant updates, fun images, etc.  And most importantly reasonably priced.

I should probably put up an IC at this point, lol.  I hope someone doesn't beat me to this, so SHHHHHH!  Mums the word.   ;D

I'd like to do another GMK set - 40%/60%/65% dark gray/light gray or black/dark gray.  Color codes will be CR/N9, N9/CC, or N9/2B (which I really like).  Legends will either be CP or CR depending on colorway I decide.  N9/2B with CR legends would be dope, but so would traditional Dolch.

If I go Dolch, the tentative name with be Dolch Sixty Forty or Dolch Mini.  If I do my own colorway, will most likely be GMK Sixty Forty.

Thoughts?  I'll post up once I make an interest check.  I've got a bit of homework to do.  I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark.  Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.

I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again.  What do you think?

With you running such a smooth GB, anything will be amazing.  :-*
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 22 March 2018, 13:43:46
Thoughts?  I'll post up once I make an interest check.  I've got a bit of homework to do.  I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark.  Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.

I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again.  What do you think?

I don't know the color codes, and I did a little googling but it is hard for me to picture them as a set together just looking at them one at a time between search queries, but I am very interested in affordable, but not poor quality kits, so I am excited to learn more. Recently I have gotten more boards than I have either switches or caps for, so I am looking for good sets of both..

That said one of the Exents I got was a base kit, and while I haven't heard back yet about being able to upgrade the kit to premium I will probably need switches and caps and I am severely short both
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: p_blaze on Thu, 22 March 2018, 13:46:09
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.

**** it. I'm out.

Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.

Dibs?  But really, don't go!

yutski, please send my exent order to MaNiFeX.

And thank you to everyone who sent messages, really means a lot. After taking inventory of my collection, this could be trickier than I thought... I may donate most of my boards to a local school and just sell keycaps.

Would you consider donating some boards to my school?
My school has a mini-program called VASTAR where students can fix computers donated to the school (by the government and companies and very rich people for tax breaks) so we can give them to kids in need. Right now it's just me and a couple friends working on this program, and we can't get any new members. We usually get a reward of choice from a bunch of computer stuff at the end of each year, and having some new nice stuff in the rewards closet might help us recruit new members to the program.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 22 March 2018, 14:54:24

Thanks man, that means a lot!  I tried to keep it positive, constant updates, fun images, etc.  And most importantly reasonably priced.

I should probably put up an IC at this point, lol.  I hope someone doesn't beat me to this, so SHHHHHH!  Mums the word.   ;D

I'd like to do another GMK set - 40%/60%/65% dark gray/light gray or black/dark gray.  Color codes will be CR/N9, N9/CC, or N9/2B (which I really like).  Legends will either be CP or CR depending on colorway I decide.  N9/2B with CR legends would be dope, but so would traditional Dolch.

If I go Dolch, the tentative name with be Dolch Sixty Forty or Dolch Mini.  If I do my own colorway, will most likely be GMK Sixty Forty.

Thoughts?  I'll post up once I make an interest check.  I've got a bit of homework to do.  I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark.  Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.

I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again.  What do you think?

With you running such a smooth GB, anything will be amazing.  :-*

Thoughts?  I'll post up once I make an interest check.  I've got a bit of homework to do.  I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark.  Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.

I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again.  What do you think?

I don't know the color codes, and I did a little googling but it is hard for me to picture them as a set together just looking at them one at a time between search queries, but I am very interested in affordable, but not poor quality kits, so I am excited to learn more. Recently I have gotten more boards than I have either switches or caps for, so I am looking for good sets of both..

That said one of the Exents I got was a base kit, and while I haven't heard back yet about being able to upgrade the kit to premium I will probably need switches and caps and I am severely short both

You guys are awesome.  Thanks for the feedback!  I might have to do Europe/Asia proxies if I get enough international orders...   We'll see.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 22 March 2018, 15:12:37
I'd like to do another GMK set - 40%/60%/65% dark gray/light gray or black/dark gray.  Color codes will be CR/N9, N9/CC, or N9/2B (which I really like).  Legends will either be CP or CR depending on colorway I decide.  N9/2B with CR legends would be dope, but so would traditional Dolch.

If I go Dolch, the tentative name with be Dolch Sixty Forty or Dolch Mini.  If I do my own colorway, will most likely be GMK Sixty Forty.

Thoughts?  I'll post up once I make an interest check.  I've got a bit of homework to do.  I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark.  Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.

I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again.  What do you think?

Nice; I'll stay tune. I'm not sold on the colorway but it sounds very nice. Something I'd probably be interested in if I didn't already have GMK Oblivion and monochrome mods. Maybe the two sets will mix and match well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 22 March 2018, 17:17:10
I'd like to do another GMK set - 40%/60%/65% dark gray/light gray or black/dark gray.  Color codes will be CR/N9, N9/CC, or N9/2B (which I really like).  Legends will either be CP or CR depending on colorway I decide.  N9/2B with CR legends would be dope, but so would traditional Dolch.

If I go Dolch, the tentative name with be Dolch Sixty Forty or Dolch Mini.  If I do my own colorway, will most likely be GMK Sixty Forty.

Thoughts?  I'll post up once I make an interest check.  I've got a bit of homework to do.  I'm hoping to do a sub-$100 buy, really hoping to hit the $80 mark.  Cutting out F-row Numpad could save on cost considerably, hence me focusing on 65% and less for this buy.

I plan to do a comprehensive kit rather than split again.  What do you think?

Nice; I'll stay tune. I'm not sold on the colorway but it sounds very nice. Something I'd probably be interested in if I didn't already have GMK Oblivion and monochrome mods. Maybe the two sets will mix and match well.

Make sure to chime in when I do post an interest check.  I'm open to ideas for the colorway.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Thu, 22 March 2018, 22:05:58
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Shados on Fri, 23 March 2018, 01:00:35
I soldered last night. I tested the PCB before soldering. It works well.
But no response when I connect the keyboard to PC after soldering. I checked everything I can. Finally I found it’s the screws from stabilizer. I removed the screws. It works again!  Screws short some switches.

I'm gonna be so pissed if that's what my problem is...

Any idea what nylon washers would work with Zeal screw-in stabilizers?

The screws for screw-in stabs are M2. Find M2 washers.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: invisiblefly on Fri, 23 March 2018, 12:41:32
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?

Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 23 March 2018, 12:52:18
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?

Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing

A virgin post in the wild.   :eek:  I feel so special.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Fri, 23 March 2018, 14:07:39
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?

Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing

Make that three of us.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Fri, 23 March 2018, 15:58:43
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?

Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing

Make that three of us.

Make that four of us...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 23 March 2018, 16:12:00
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?

Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing

Make that three of us.

Make that four of us...

I think five people starts qualifying as a party. I'll bring drinks. Who want's to bring the cake?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Fri, 23 March 2018, 16:12:54
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?

Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing

Make that three of us.

Make that four of us...

I think five people starts qualifying as a party. I'll bring drinks. Who want's to bring the cake?

Cookie cake or nah?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Asbrodeus on Fri, 23 March 2018, 16:20:39

Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing

I got a tracking number Feb 27 but I don't know what service it is for so I can't actually track it. Needless to say it hasn't shown up yet.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Fri, 23 March 2018, 16:22:27

Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing

I got a tracking number Feb 27 but I don't know what service it is for so I can't actually track it. Needless to say it hasn't shown up yet.
What I've gathered is the boards are either coming from the Malaysia postal service or through SF express, but my tracking number from the 27th hasn't shown up on either yet.

Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 23 March 2018, 17:19:06
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?

Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing

Make that three of us.

Make that four of us...

I think five people starts qualifying as a party. I'll bring drinks. Who want's to bring the cake?

Premium kit here (EU-based), no tracking number provided yet either.

I guess this party is gonna be wild!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Katanadog on Sun, 25 March 2018, 15:56:12
Basic kit with aluminum bottom. Got the tracking number but it doesn't show up.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 26 March 2018, 04:42:25
ne pcb fixes avail
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Mon, 26 March 2018, 14:53:11
Basic kit with aluminum bottom. Got the tracking number but it doesn't show up.
That's where I'm at as well. Been a month now... how long is this going to take? Seems nearly everyone is in this boat  :'(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 26 March 2018, 15:20:37
Basic kit with aluminum bottom. Got the tracking number but it doesn't show up.
That's where I'm at as well. Been a month now... how long is this going to take? Seems nearly everyone is in this boat  :'(

Now there's a party boat?!?!  Where does it embark from, Hades?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 26 March 2018, 16:06:14
Now there's a party boat?!?!  Where does it embark from, Hades?

Pretty sure we've been on this boat for a while. Embarked from purgatory and the captain's taking us the wrong way. Things have been feeling pretty toasty.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 26 March 2018, 16:24:54
Now there's a party boat?!?!  Where does it embark from, Hades?

Pretty sure we've been on this boat for a while. Embarked from purgatory and the captain's taking us the wrong way. Things have been feeling pretty toasty.

I think that's just global warming  :p

Don't worry, when our boards are delivered and Hell freezes over, it will take the edge off the heat  :))
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Mon, 26 March 2018, 18:07:32
Now there's a party boat?!?!  Where does it embark from, Hades?

Pretty sure we've been on this boat for a while. Embarked from purgatory and the captain's taking us the wrong way. Things have been feeling pretty toasty.

I think that's just global warming  :p

Don't worry, when our boards are delivered and Hell freezes over, it will take the edge off the heat  :))

Just pray when it actually ships your address hasn't changed... I'm moving soon and given how slowly the group buy runners are running things, it's possible I'll be out of a board. They essentially added fake tracking (doesn't show up on sf-express or any other tracking system) to appease people in this thread.

edit: "Sorry, waybill (********764) information not found, please check waybill number or contact SF costomer service at 1 855 901 1133."
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Mon, 26 March 2018, 22:24:53
So, I got some news!

This apparently is my board on the way to the shipping office. I hate how long this has taken, I'm still excited to get my hands on it. Looks like Laser will match quite well.

(https://i.imgur.com/1Ck8hxF.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 07:08:05
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?

Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing

Make that three of us.

Make that four of us...

I think five people starts qualifying as a party. I'll bring drinks. Who want's to bring the cake?

Premium kit here (EU-based), no tracking number provided yet either.

I guess this party is gonna be wild!

Seven now and this party is turning in to a riot!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ClearKeys on Tue, 27 March 2018, 07:56:31
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits w/ caps + polycarb bottom are going out?

Same situation.
I havn't got any update yet.
No Tracking, nothing

Make that three of us.

Make that four of us...

I think five people starts qualifying as a party. I'll bring drinks. Who want's to bring the cake?

Premium kit here (EU-based), no tracking number provided yet either.

I guess this party is gonna be wild!

Seven now and this party is turning in to a riot!

Add me to the list boys. No tracking, no anything. The wait really hasn't bothered me - Can't believe it's been a year though. I just want to know if I will ever see it or if I'm out the money.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 27 March 2018, 11:49:34
So, I got some news!

This apparently is my board on the way to the shipping office. I hate how long this has taken, I'm still excited to get my hands on it. Looks like Laser will match quite well.

Neat. Did you get the basic kit?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 27 March 2018, 12:50:21
Quote from: ClearKeys link=topic=87213.msg2583621#msg2583621
Add me to the list boys. No tracking, no anything. The wait really hasn't bothered me - Can't believe it's been a year though. I just want to know if I will ever see it or if I'm out the money.

Same here. Premium kit, no shipping. I was hopeful when I received a PM reply from Yuktsi the other day after asking if he could ship me my kit minus the caps and switches and stabs and ship those to me whenever OCO finally gets those over to him, but he never replied back again.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 27 March 2018, 13:19:49
Same here. Premium kit, no shipping. I was hopeful when I received a PM reply from Yuktsi the other day after asking if he could ship me my kit minus the caps and switches and stabs and ship those to me whenever OCO finally gets those over to him, but he never replied back again.

Last I heard I'm pretty sure the sets are en-route from Sherry as of a few days ago, it'll probably still take a little while to get to the runners because of how far apart they are but yea. Don't think it'd be worth it for them to send over the board without the sets any more, and that's probably why you've not heard back.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Tue, 27 March 2018, 15:09:27
Same here. Premium kit, no shipping. I was hopeful when I received a PM reply from Yuktsi the other day after asking if he could ship me my kit minus the caps and switches and stabs and ship those to me whenever OCO finally gets those over to him, but he never replied back again.

Last I heard I'm pretty sure the sets are en-route from Sherry as of a few days ago, it'll probably still take a little while to get to the runners because of how far apart they are but yea. Don't think it'd be worth it for them to send over the board without the sets any more, and that's probably why you've not heard back.

They've been saying that for months. Honestly, zero trust in that being true.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 27 March 2018, 15:30:49
They've been saying that for months. Honestly, zero trust in that being true.

Sherry said that like a month and a half ago, correct. That was the only time it was said, and I also have very good reason to believe I'm being told the truth but I suppose we'll have to wait and see. I'm hopeful is all I'm saying, but I absolutely understand and respect the sentiment (especially as someone who bought a premium kit).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 27 March 2018, 16:46:48
Last I heard I'm pretty sure the sets are en-route from Sherry as of a few days ago, it'll probably still take a little while to get to the runners because of how far apart they are but yea. Don't think it'd be worth it for them to send over the board without the sets any more, and that's probably why you've not heard back.

Sherry said that like a month and a half ago, correct. That was the only time it was said, and I also have very good reason to believe I'm being told the truth but I suppose we'll have to wait and see. I'm hopeful is all I'm saying, but I absolutely understand and respect the sentiment (especially as someone who bought a premium kit).

I'm taking everything with a grain of salt, but I'm very inclined to believe you. It kinda matches up with what yuktsi said about two weeks ago:

OCO promised to have the Premium Kits dropped off by today. Will update you guys on how it goes.

Wouldn't surprise me if OCO accidentally shipped them late, so "the sets are en-route from Sherry as of a few days ago" sounds just about right to me. Depending on how he shipped them they could take a few weeks to get to yuktsi, and then a few weeks to get packaged and shipped out to us. If I were an optimist I could possibly see the light at the end of the tunnel. Too bad I'm not an optimist.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 27 March 2018, 17:44:54
Wouldn't surprise me if OCO accidentally shipped them late, so "the sets are en-route from Sherry as of a few days ago" sounds just about right to me. Depending on how he shipped them they could take a few weeks to get to yuktsi, and then a few weeks to get packaged and shipped out to us. If I were an optimist I could possibly see the light at the end of the tunnel. Too bad I'm not an optimist.

The post you quoted is a good point and I stand corrected there - seems they said kits would be shipped on two occasions rather than one, my bad. Still, I'm obviously not making an official statement of any kind here I just figured it would be relevant information to share seeing as, as said, I'm quite certain the information is accurate.

From the package being sent out when I believe it was until Yuktsi and them receive it, to them sorting and packaging things properly I'd probably be comfortable with a 2 month estimate for when they start going out. Here's hoping Oco expedited it a bit and that things go smoothly on the runner's end.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Wed, 28 March 2018, 21:10:44
Just checking in to confirm this whole thing is still a dumpster fire with no progress. Yep. Carry on.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 29 March 2018, 00:46:40
Any updates on how to fix the pcb?

And also premium kits? I'm still waiting on caps/switches/stabs.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Moderate on Thu, 29 March 2018, 09:56:56
Soo, it's been a full month since I received my tracking number which is still a dud with nothing to track. To be honest I'd rather not have received a number at all if nothing has actually been posted.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 29 March 2018, 17:04:54
If anyone cares, the nylon screws did NOT resolve my PCB issue.  I've either got a short somewhere else or my controller has a contact/solder problem.  I've put the board away for now.  I don't have the time or the interest to troubleshoot it right now.  This whole thing has just been a massive disappointment.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 29 March 2018, 17:06:21
If anyone cares, the nylon screws did NOT resolve my PCB issue.  I've either got a short somewhere else or my controller has a contact/solder problem.  I've put the board away for now.  I don't have the time or the interest to troubleshoot it right now.  This whole thing has just been a massive disappointment.

I'm sorry to hear that it is a deeper problem than just this. I do hope after shipping finally completes that there will be solutions for resolving these issues.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 29 March 2018, 17:13:55
If anyone cares, the nylon screws did NOT resolve my PCB issue.  I've either got a short somewhere else or my controller has a contact/solder problem.  I've put the board away for now.  I don't have the time or the interest to troubleshoot it right now.  This whole thing has just been a massive disappointment.

What column is out, if i may ask?

There's still no update from anywhere on how to fix it, i've tried reflowing a solder pin from the mcu, board works, whole shift row is still unresponsive.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 29 March 2018, 17:37:41
Backspace column.  Includes Pipe, Enter, Up and Down keys in my layout.  I'm guessing that's Column 2 but it's a little confusing.

Not only do those keys NOT REGISTER, but when I plug the board in I get flashing in-switch LEDs in a FLASH-FLASH-PAUSE pattern and no keys function at all, though the device is properly recognized in Windows.  I assume this indicates a short and it's a sort of "safe mode" operation.  The bottom RGB LEDs don't come on at all.

If I plug the board in with Keymapper running and flash a firmware HEX (any) to it, the flash is successful.  In-switch LEDs stop flashing and the bottom LEDs come on, but then the board starts sending an infinite string of rapid-fire inputs I THINK from the Backspace key.  That's the limit of troubleshooting I've done so far.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 29 March 2018, 17:58:25
Backspace column.  Includes Pipe, Enter, Up and Down keys in my layout.  I'm guessing that's Column 2 but it's a little confusing.

Not only do those keys NOT REGISTER, but when I plug the board in I get flashing in-switch LEDs in a FLASH-FLASH-PAUSE pattern and no keys function at all, though the device is properly recognized in Windows.  I assume this indicates a short and it's a sort of "safe mode" operation.  The bottom RGB LEDs don't come on at all.

If I plug the board in with Keymapper running and flash a firmware HEX (any) to it, the flash is successful.  In-switch LEDs stop flashing and the bottom LEDs come on, but then the board starts sending an infinite string of rapid-fire inputs I THINK from the Backspace key.  That's the limit of troubleshooting I've done so far.

Have you seen the MCU layout yet? I'm re-reading it now and it seems that the pin i was given is the a wrong one.  I'll try to reflow the right pin, to see if i can revive the board.

Edit: I have fixed the board. When you think of row on a keyboard its a column on bootmapper. I reflowed the wrong pin probably due to how i said my left shift row doesn't work.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Shados on Fri, 30 March 2018, 00:46:23
If anyone cares, the nylon screws did NOT resolve my PCB issue.  I've either got a short somewhere else or my controller has a contact/solder problem.  I've put the board away for now.  I don't have the time or the interest to troubleshoot it right now.  This whole thing has just been a massive disappointment.

Nylon screws, or nylon washers? I've had one board where I couldn't manage to prevent the screw from shorting it despite using nylon washers, so if you're using them maybe try without the stabs at all just to confirm they are not the issue?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 30 March 2018, 15:06:15
If anyone cares, the nylon screws did NOT resolve my PCB issue.  I've either got a short somewhere else or my controller has a contact/solder problem.  I've put the board away for now.  I don't have the time or the interest to troubleshoot it right now.  This whole thing has just been a massive disappointment.

Nylon screws, or nylon washers? I've had one board where I couldn't manage to prevent the screw from shorting it despite using nylon washers, so if you're using them maybe try without the stabs at all just to confirm they are not the issue?

Definitely screws.  Spamray sent me a few to try.  It had no discernible effect.  Just out of curiosity I also put some electrical tape around the screw holes and tried the original screws again, with obvious results.  Whatever the problem is, it's probably not coming from the stabs.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lzlzh035 on Sun, 01 April 2018, 03:11:03
For those who have received their package, how long did you guys get the package after you got the tracking number? Was it always that slow?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sun, 01 April 2018, 03:20:35
For those who have received their package, how long did you guys get the package after you got the tracking number? Was it always that slow?

POS malaysia. 10 days.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lzlzh035 on Sun, 01 April 2018, 03:24:48
Wow then it's super weird that some people claim they got the tracking no showing things for like, a month?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sun, 01 April 2018, 03:43:32
Wow then it's super weird that some people claim they got the tracking no showing things for like, a month?

Very possible airwaybills are swapped out and tracking doesn't work. I asked yuktsi why mine hasn't been moving yet, and clarified that it has and provided me with an updated tracking number. I'm not really sure if its the case for everyone but it could be.

A month is definitely too long of a wait honestly, even if you are quite a ways away from Malaysia.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Moderate on Sun, 01 April 2018, 08:56:30
Wow then it's super weird that some people claim they got the tracking no showing things for like, a month?

Very possible airwaybills are swapped out and tracking doesn't work. I asked yuktsi why mine hasn't been moving yet, and clarified that it has and provided me with an updated tracking number. I'm not really sure if its the case for everyone but it could be.

A month is definitely too long of a wait honestly, even if you are quite a ways away from Malaysia.

Being that I'm from Australia I'm really not that far from Malaysia at all (although I figure that doesn't really dictate how quickly a package will post). But yeah, the number was issued on the 28th of February and according to PayPal it is marked as shipped. However, my number shows "No record found" on POS Malaysia's tracking and nothing's turned up at my doorstep, soo..  :( I've just sent a PM to yuktsi so hopefully some light can be shed on the situation. For curiosity's sake, I had an alu bottom + poly bottom order, no keycaps.

Edit: yuktsi did reply to my PM. Now just awaiting investigation. Good man.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Mon, 02 April 2018, 06:14:49
Still no word on shipping for an alu bottom order. No response to anything.

**** it. I'm out.

Anyone want my EXENT? You can have it for free. This has left such a sour taste in my mouth, I'm getting out of the hobby all together. If you know me, you know what I got, hit me up if you want it. For the rest of you, keep an eye on r/mechmarket for the motherload of all sales.

Damn man, you are my inspiration, making me go into this hobby further...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Mon, 02 April 2018, 06:41:52
main GB runner MIA for three whole months.

sigh
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 02 April 2018, 14:24:48
My comment got removed wtf? Annoying af.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Tue, 03 April 2018, 02:09:05
I just got a message back from Yuktsi, he should have the key caps by today and so the premium kits should head out soon enough now.

He is the true saviour of this GB. He’s run his own GB and probably has a day job but has still made time to reply to messages and bring this back on course.

Here’s hoping there are no more dud PCBs!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Tue, 03 April 2018, 06:42:18
I'll second that, Yuktsi has stepped up. I still wish communication was better, but I can imagine it's a lot to deal with.

I just got a message back from Yuktsi, he should have the key caps by today and so the premium kits should head out soon enough now.

He is the true saviour of this GB. He’s run his own GB and probably has a day job but has still made time to reply to messages and bring this back on course.

Here’s hoping there are no more dud PCBs!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 03 April 2018, 12:07:51
Wow then it's super weird that some people claim they got the tracking no showing things for like, a month?

Very possible airwaybills are swapped out and tracking doesn't work. I asked yuktsi why mine hasn't been moving yet, and clarified that it has and provided me with an updated tracking number. I'm not really sure if its the case for everyone but it could be.

A month is definitely too long of a wait honestly, even if you are quite a ways away from Malaysia.

Being that I'm from Australia I'm really not that far from Malaysia at all (although I figure that doesn't really dictate how quickly a package will post). But yeah, the number was issued on the 28th of February and according to PayPal it is marked as shipped. However, my number shows "No record found" on POS Malaysia's tracking and nothing's turned up at my doorstep, soo..  :( I've just sent a PM to yuktsi so hopefully some light can be shed on the situation. For curiosity's sake, I had an alu bottom + poly bottom order, no keycaps.

Edit: yuktsi did reply to my PM. Now just awaiting investigation. Good man.

I'm in the exact same situation with the same order...  Can you update when you hear more?  I don't want to inundate yuktsi with more PMs.  Thanks!   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 03 April 2018, 13:23:44
I just got a message back from Yuktsi, he should have the key caps by today and so the premium kits should head out soon enough now.

He is the true saviour of this GB. He’s run his own GB and probably has a day job but has still made time to reply to messages and bring this back on course.

Here’s hoping there are no more dud PCBs!

thanks so much for getting info on the update, i cant remember what kit i even ordered but i think it was premium so fingers crossed, still super stoked on this board
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 06 April 2018, 19:36:50
Received my basic kit with alu bottom yesterday. Dark grey. Too dark.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 06 April 2018, 19:50:39
Received my basic kit with alu bottom yesterday. Dark grey. Too dark.

Glad to hear you've finally got yours, but sad to hear that the grey is too dark for you. From the photos I've seen I can see where you think that. I always mistaken photos of a dark grey Extent as a black Extent.

I ordered a dark grey Exent but later changed my mind and asked Juahenza for black. He said he could change it for me but that was so long ago and now that he's gone I'm not sure what I'll get. Since there isn't much difference I'll probably be happy with the color either way lol.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Fri, 06 April 2018, 20:47:31
Received my basic kit with alu bottom yesterday. Dark grey. Too dark.
Did you ever get a tracking number that worked?

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 06 April 2018, 20:52:34
Glad to hear you've finally got yours, but sad to hear that the grey is too dark for you. From the photos I've seen I can see where you think that. I always mistaken photos of a dark grey Extent as a black Extent.

I ordered a dark grey Exent but later changed my mind and asked Juahenza for black. He said he could change it for me but that was so long ago and now that he's gone I'm not sure what I'll get. Since there isn't much difference I'll probably be happy with the color either way lol.

Still waiting on a Black Premium. This Basic kit came with a Black alu bottom, I will upload a picture of the black on the grey for comparison and you can see them side by side. I think the Dark Grey in this case just looks like a black with a little more depth to it. I am sure regardless of which you get you will be happy as well.


Did you ever get a tracking number that worked?

I think I got a tracking number at some point but I don't think I ever bothered to check whether it worked or not. If it was a link I probably clicked on it, but don't recall if it had worked or not if that was the case.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Sat, 07 April 2018, 11:20:49
Can we get one freaking update from the runners? Like seriously.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Sat, 07 April 2018, 11:36:13
Can we get one freaking update from the runners? Like seriously.
Yeah I've had a tracking number since February 27th and it still doesn't actually work. I'd love any kind of update.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Sat, 07 April 2018, 12:44:06
Can we get one freaking update from the runners? Like seriously.

I pm'ed yuktsi for an update on Sunday 4/1 and was told I'd get one Thursday, and now being asked to wait until Monday. So maybe then? No idea... juahenza still offline since 2/07. If yuktsi weren't around there'd probably be a lot more outrage.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: beamingrobot on Sat, 07 April 2018, 22:55:12
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180408/47db06b5f300bdc125665f391b0f96f5.jpg)

Got my kit, thanks yuktsi!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 07 April 2018, 23:02:54
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180408/47db06b5f300bdc125665f391b0f96f5.jpg)


Got my kit, thanks yuktsi!

Whoa, a premium kit in the wild!!! Did you ever get a tracking number?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Sat, 07 April 2018, 23:03:34
Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180408/47db06b5f300bdc125665f391b0f96f5.jpg)


Got my kit, thanks yuktsi!

Oh ****, the keyset actually exists!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sat, 07 April 2018, 23:23:29
Man i hope my keyset ships soon :(
Really wanna transfer my nautilus to my novatouch, so i can use both boards.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mike873 on Sat, 07 April 2018, 23:49:50
My purple kit arrived.

A few observations:
- It arrived!
- Looks pretty great.
- The foot adds a fair amount of weight which is welcome.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 08 April 2018, 07:29:22
Looking if there will be any extras. Good to see that yuktsi is helping this buy immensely despite juahenza's disappearance.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Sun, 08 April 2018, 07:31:27
Damn, just waiting in excitement to get a tracking number already!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 08 April 2018, 14:00:18
Damn, just waiting in excitement to get a tracking number already!!!!!!!!

So far as I can tell the tracking numbers haven't panned out for anyone that has received anything, I wouldn't put much stock in one, your board will likely show up without you having been able to track it
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Sun, 08 April 2018, 14:36:59
Damn, just waiting in excitement to get a tracking number already!!!!!!!!

So far as I can tell the tracking numbers haven't panned out for anyone that has received anything, I wouldn't put much stock in one, your board will likely show up without you having been able to track it

So you never even receive notification it has shipped through paypal or anything? It just shows up?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 08 April 2018, 14:52:05
So you never even receive notification it has shipped through paypal or anything? It just shows up?

I never checked any tracking info I ever received, or if I ever did I've forgotten if it worked or not, but other people have been saying that their tracking information hasn't been working, and stuff has been starting to show up regardless so it's likely you will get your board before you have any success with tracking.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 08 April 2018, 15:21:38
Got my kit, thanks yuktsi!

Glad to see this! I've been aware that Yuktsi had the kits but I hadn't seen one in the hands of a customer (though I know you're relatively local) yet, I'm happy things are moving along.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 09 April 2018, 00:17:10
So, astonishingly, people are getting their kits? So when can we start bringing up the polycarbonate bottoms again? I have zero hope that this group buy will follow through on its promise to deliver replacement bottoms but, hey, apparently kits have actually been delivered recently, and also I guess pigs are flying, so I might as well ask?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 09 April 2018, 00:23:27
So, astonishingly, people are getting their kits? So when can we start bringing up the polycarbonate bottoms again? I have zero hope that this group buy will follow through on its promise to deliver replacement bottoms but, hey, apparently kits have actually been delivered recently, and also I guess pigs are flying, so I might as well ask?
Keep me in the loop too!

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Mon, 09 April 2018, 06:15:36
So, astonishingly, people are getting their kits? So when can we start bringing up the polycarbonate bottoms again? I have zero hope that this group buy will follow through on its promise to deliver replacement bottoms but, hey, apparently kits have actually been delivered recently, and also I guess pigs are flying, so I might as well ask?
Keep me in the loop too!

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
+1 here
But let them enjoy their kits before, only one received it and it seems he's close to yuktsi
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Mon, 09 April 2018, 13:37:49
Damn, just waiting in excitement to get a tracking number already!!!!!!!!

So far as I can tell the tracking numbers haven't panned out for anyone that has received anything, I wouldn't put much stock in one, your board will likely show up without you having been able to track it

I'm really hoping mine will be here soon (fellow Portlander!).  Tracking not working, no boxes on doorstep... I ordered a basic kit with an aluminum bottom added.  I'll be sure to post when I get mine.  Glad to hear these are arriving!   :thumb:  Hoping PCBs are working on arrival.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Mon, 09 April 2018, 18:56:44
I'm really hoping mine will be here soon (fellow Portlander!).  Tracking not working, no boxes on doorstep... I ordered a basic kit with an aluminum bottom added.  I'll be sure to post when I get mine.  Glad to hear these are arriving!   :thumb:  Hoping PCBs are working on arrival.

Also a fellow Portlander, also waiting and have never received tracking or any notice on my premium kit.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Thu, 12 April 2018, 12:32:04
I'm really hoping mine will be here soon (fellow Portlander!).  Tracking not working, no boxes on doorstep... I ordered a basic kit with an aluminum bottom added.  I'll be sure to post when I get mine.  Glad to hear these are arriving!   :thumb:  Hoping PCBs are working on arrival.

Also a fellow Portlander, also waiting and have never received tracking or any notice on my premium kit.

Not from Portland but I haven’t received tracking or any info either. Also have a premium kit. Fingers crossed when I get home from work everyday that it will be on my steps lol.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 12 April 2018, 12:39:59
Just to clarify (Portlander) I have not received my premium kit and none of my tracking info was checked and may not have worked at all, I have only received my basic kit.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Thu, 12 April 2018, 20:51:21
Just to clarify (Portlander) I have not received my premium kit and none of my tracking info was checked and may not have worked at all, I have only received my basic kit.

premium kit +1
no any tracking info
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Fri, 13 April 2018, 11:43:33
Samesies. I'm here in Toronto twiddling my thumbs. I can feel the day approaching...

Black premium w/ Aluminum & Polycarb.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Fri, 13 April 2018, 11:52:47
Hi Yuktsi, Do you know when premium kits with caps + polycarb bottom are going out?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Sat, 14 April 2018, 10:02:48
anyone know if it's possible to use costar stabilizers on this ?

I waited until after I soldered all my switches in, to install the stabs - so costar seems like my only option.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Sat, 14 April 2018, 10:03:51
anyone know if it's possible to use costar stabilizers on this ?

I waited until after I soldered all my switches in, to install the stabs - so costar seems like my only option.

Better get desoldering.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 14 April 2018, 12:02:52
anyone know if it's possible to use costar stabilizers on this ?

I waited until after I soldered all my switches in, to install the stabs - so costar seems like my only option.

Literally the only stabs it accepts are PCB mount.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Sat, 14 April 2018, 13:35:35
I waited until after I soldered all my switches in, to install the stabs - so costar seems like my only option.

Pray for six_chains
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Sat, 14 April 2018, 13:48:50
fml.  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 14 April 2018, 14:13:24
Great to see kits arriving on this again, haven’t been able to get in contact with anyone involved to check on the questions I posted in this thread, but I’d rather the available time was spent getting things out to people than messaging me anyway

Really looking forward to seeing this in person


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 14 April 2018, 17:36:11
Great to see kits arriving on this again, haven’t been able to get in contact with anyone involved to check on the questions I posted in this thread, but I’d rather the available time was spent getting things out to people than messaging me anyway

Really looking forward to seeing this in person


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Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 14 April 2018, 18:22:42
Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.

Three kits on this page alone.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Sat, 14 April 2018, 19:11:36
Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.

Three kits on this page alone.

Premium kits? I only see one. And as far as I know, one in total across the whole buy. Not a single other person has posted a photo or confirmed receipt of a premium kit. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sat, 14 April 2018, 19:54:30
Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.

Three kits on this page alone.

Premium kits? I only see one. And as far as I know, one in total across the whole buy. Not a single other person has posted a photo or confirmed receipt of a premium kit. Am I missing something?

Yeah i think that's the first in the thread. My switches and keyset ain't here yet, and yuktsi hasn't responded to my discord pm.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 14 April 2018, 20:12:34
Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.

Three kits on this page alone.

Premium kits? I only see one. And as far as I know, one in total across the whole buy. Not a single other person has posted a photo or confirmed receipt of a premium kit. Am I missing something?

Premium kit here, nothing yet either :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Sat, 14 April 2018, 20:13:20
Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.

Three kits on this page alone.

Premium kits? I only see one. And as far as I know, one in total across the whole buy. Not a single other person has posted a photo or confirmed receipt of a premium kit. Am I missing something?

Yeah i think that's the first in the thread. My switches and keyset ain't here yet, and yuktsi hasn't responded to my discord pm.

I've received nothing for my premium kit and Yuktsi stopped responding to PMs.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sat, 14 April 2018, 22:22:09
Premium kits?

No, just any kit. We are at least seeing some movement.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Mon, 16 April 2018, 18:27:05
Actually it's not entirely clear that kits really are arriving. There is, like, one isolated case.

Three kits on this page alone.

Premium kits? I only see one. And as far as I know, one in total across the whole buy. Not a single other person has posted a photo or confirmed receipt of a premium kit. Am I missing something?

Yeah i think that's the first in the thread. My switches and keyset ain't here yet, and yuktsi hasn't responded to my discord pm.

I've received nothing for my premium kit and Yuktsi stopped responding to PMs.

Same, no information on my premium kit and no reply from Yuktsi since March 1st.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 17 April 2018, 17:15:12
Just checking in, I see things are the same
(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 17 April 2018, 17:55:44
Just checking in, I see things are the same
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)

Eh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 17 April 2018, 20:47:02
Just checking in, I see things are the same
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)

Eh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

If anything, that's an flattering illustration of the state of things...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 18 April 2018, 00:56:17
Just checking in, I see things are the same
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)

Eh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
Yuktsi has been AWOL for a while too so yeah the situation is not looking well for most of us.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 18 April 2018, 06:16:03
Just checking in, I see things are the same
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)

Eh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
Yuktsi has been AWOL for a while too so yeah the situation is not looking well for most of us.

No he hasn't, he just launched another GB. He's active, just not here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 18 April 2018, 07:13:41
Just checking in, I see things are the same
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)

Eh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
Yuktsi has been AWOL for a while too so yeah the situation is not looking well for most of us.

No he hasn't, he just launched another GB. He's active, just not here.
And how does that help our situation here?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Wed, 18 April 2018, 08:05:58
Just checking in, I see things are the same
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)

Eh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
Yuktsi has been AWOL for a while too so yeah the situation is not looking well for most of us.

No he hasn't, he just launched another GB. He's active, just not here.
And how does that help our situation here?

This is sad news and information for all of us still waiting for something. It means we have to wait even longer as the main GB runner is MIA and yuktsi's priority will be his own GB.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 18 April 2018, 08:52:54
Just checking in, I see things are the same
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/i5zPTcS.png)

Eh, it could be worse tbh. Don't get me wrong, things are bad, but it's more of a contained dumpster fire imo (thanks to Yuktsi). Not quite the roaring fire pictured there.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
Yuktsi has been AWOL for a while too so yeah the situation is not looking well for most of us.

No he hasn't, he just launched another GB. He's active, just not here.
And how does that help our situation here?

It doesn't. It was just a clarification. AWOL is absent. He isn't absent, he's choosing not to reply.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Wed, 18 April 2018, 09:02:11
(https://i.imgur.com/duFQIt3.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 18 April 2018, 09:10:48
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/duFQIt3.png)


You must achieve peak Zen to survive this trainwreck.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Wed, 18 April 2018, 12:21:10
Has Oco shipped the premium kit keyset yet? Also who would they even ship the keys too? lol there's no one here.. :blank:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 18 April 2018, 12:29:02
Has Oco shipped the premium kit keyset yet? Also who would they even ship the keys too? lol there's no one here.. :blank:

They've been received by Yuktsi who went down to the airport to pick them up. He has his own Alice GB he's been handling last couple weeks, he had to put up the threads, organise everything, go through entries, verify them, schedule machining, pick and order materials, etc so surely it's understandable that he hasn't been able to get around to shipping things himself and/or updating us here.

I also have it in good standing that Juahenza is actually not dead outside of Geekhack, but if nothing else I'm sure Yuktsi will get around to figuring this out again once everything's handed off to manufacturing with the Alice.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 18 April 2018, 13:33:07

I also have it in good standing that Juahenza is actually not dead outside of Geekhack

Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot? 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 18 April 2018, 13:41:53
Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?

In.

I don't know where he is and I don't know why he pulled a Houdini here (may have to do with the constant abuse, though that's absolutely not an excuse) - I've just heard from friends and others that they've been in contact and he's alive and well, still involved in keyboards. What that may mean for the Exent or the people here, I have no idea; I have more faith in things wrapping up once Yuktsi finds time now that he's done shipping the 910 and after he mostly figures out the Alice than anything else, personally, but you know.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 18 April 2018, 13:43:59

I also have it in good standing that Juahenza is actually not dead outside of Geekhack

Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?

Hopefully he's hand-carding my.replacement acrylic bottom.

Which is getting worse and I've never used the keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Thu, 19 April 2018, 02:14:38
I received an update from yuktsi today, new tracking info (that currently says tracking not found/pending, will supposedly update in 24 hrs). Makes me wonder what the first number I was given 2 months ago was, but progress I guess?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 19 April 2018, 05:54:50
Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?

In.

I don't know where he is and I don't know why he pulled a Houdini here (may have to do with the constant abuse, though that's absolutely not an excuse) - I've just heard from friends and others that they've been in contact and he's alive and well, still involved in keyboards. What that may mean for the Exent or the people here, I have no idea; I have more faith in things wrapping up once Yuktsi finds time now that he's done shipping the 910 and after he mostly figures out the Alice than anything else, personally, but you know.

As far as I know, he's not really involved in keyboards anymore. But he is alive and well. I have regret that I didn't participate in this because I like the board and simultaneously glad that it's a bullet dodged. But it's good to see that Yuktsi is working hard to make it right. It's slow, for sure, but at least it's getting some progress.

Speaking of which, I'd love an extra. Black, pink, premium or regular, doesn't matter. Hit me up if you'd like to sell one at cost.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Thu, 19 April 2018, 10:59:09
But he is alive and well.

 :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Thu, 19 April 2018, 11:06:03
Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?

In.

I don't know where he is and I don't know why he pulled a Houdini here (may have to do with the constant abuse, though that's absolutely not an excuse) - I've just heard from friends and others that they've been in contact and he's alive and well, still involved in keyboards. What that may mean for the Exent or the people here, I have no idea; I have more faith in things wrapping up once Yuktsi finds time now that he's done shipping the 910 and after he mostly figures out the Alice than anything else, personally, but you know.

As far as I know, he's not really involved in keyboards anymore. But he is alive and well. I have regret that I didn't participate in this because I like the board and simultaneously glad that it's a bullet dodged. But it's good to see that Yuktsi is working hard to make it right. It's slow, for sure, but at least it's getting some progress.

Speaking of which, I'd love an extra. Black, pink, premium or regular, doesn't matter. Hit me up if you'd like to sell one at cost.

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So the group buy runner has not only abandoned the GB but left the community entirely? Well that’s fantastic news.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 19 April 2018, 12:54:19
Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?

In.

I don't know where he is and I don't know why he pulled a Houdini here (may have to do with the constant abuse, though that's absolutely not an excuse) - I've just heard from friends and others that they've been in contact and he's alive and well, still involved in keyboards. What that may mean for the Exent or the people here, I have no idea; I have more faith in things wrapping up once Yuktsi finds time now that he's done shipping the 910 and after he mostly figures out the Alice than anything else, personally, but you know.

FYI 910 isn't done shipping yet, think there are some extras and the polycarb version is slated to begin shipping out in the next week or so. yuktsi is a busy boy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 19 April 2018, 13:56:05
Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?

In.

I don't know where he is and I don't know why he pulled a Houdini here (may have to do with the constant abuse, though that's absolutely not an excuse) - I've just heard from friends and others that they've been in contact and he's alive and well, still involved in keyboards. What that may mean for the Exent or the people here, I have no idea; I have more faith in things wrapping up once Yuktsi finds time now that he's done shipping the 910 and after he mostly figures out the Alice than anything else, personally, but you know.

As far as I know, he's not really involved in keyboards anymore. But he is alive and well. I have regret that I didn't participate in this because I like the board and simultaneously glad that it's a bullet dodged. But it's good to see that Yuktsi is working hard to make it right. It's slow, for sure, but at least it's getting some progress.

Speaking of which, I'd love an extra. Black, pink, premium or regular, doesn't matter. Hit me up if you'd like to sell one at cost.

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This really makes me think the replacement bottoms are never happening.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 19 April 2018, 14:07:24
Oh on good standing wow! So where is that idiot?

In.

I don't know where he is and I don't know why he pulled a Houdini here (may have to do with the constant abuse, though that's absolutely not an excuse) - I've just heard from friends and others that they've been in contact and he's alive and well, still involved in keyboards. What that may mean for the Exent or the people here, I have no idea; I have more faith in things wrapping up once Yuktsi finds time now that he's done shipping the 910 and after he mostly figures out the Alice than anything else, personally, but you know.

As far as I know, he's not really involved in keyboards anymore. But he is alive and well. I have regret that I didn't participate in this because I like the board and simultaneously glad that it's a bullet dodged. But it's good to see that Yuktsi is working hard to make it right. It's slow, for sure, but at least it's getting some progress.

Speaking of which, I'd love an extra. Black, pink, premium or regular, doesn't matter. Hit me up if you'd like to sell one at cost.

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So the group buy runner has not only abandoned the GB but left the community entirely? Well that’s fantastic news.

Not another Ivan, I hope!   :eek:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Thu, 19 April 2018, 14:14:33


Not another Ivan, I hope!   :eek:

It's not that bad, at least the boards are made already. Its just that Yuktsi has a lot of his own GB's boards to ship first, there's still a good chance that we will get our stuff.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 19 April 2018, 14:16:54
FYI 910 isn't done shipping yet, think there are some extras and the polycarb version is slated to begin shipping out in the next week or so. yuktsi is a busy boy.

Busy indeed. Too busy imo; simultaneously running multiple projects at a time is a good way to make mistakes and miss deadlines. Would have been nice to see either 910 or Exent finished before he started Alice. But from what I can tell he is paying for things out of pocket now, so Exent will only be moving forward as long as someone can afford to move boards. And if Alice provides some extra income to help out with Exent in the long run then maybe it'll be ok.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dwarflemur on Thu, 19 April 2018, 15:29:08
And if Alice provides some extra income to help out with Exent in the long run then maybe it'll be ok.
Gotta be careful, that's close to pyramid scheme territory
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 19 April 2018, 16:13:43
I would avoid making too many assumptions about how orders are being fulfilled unless you know for sure. Rumors don't help situations like this at all.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Thu, 19 April 2018, 20:31:06
It's not that bad, at least the boards are made already. Its just that Yuktsi has a lot of his own GB's boards to ship first, there's still a good chance that we will get our stuff.

Did you hear from someone who heard from someone who heard from someone who heard from jua that all the boards were produced? I heard that too..

As for the boards that were produced, is Yuktsi shipping 1 per month? I'm not sure I understand the situation (understatement) I thought we all already payed for shipping so whoever is running the GB should be funded for that. Is someone literally waiting to get their paycheck from their day job to pay to ship our boards 1 at a time?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: g_ken92 on Fri, 20 April 2018, 02:32:12
Finally got my Premium kit (polycarb bottom, brass plate). My friend helped to self collect from one of the guys involved in the GB a couple of weeks ago and assembled it for me. The GMK keycaps have already arrived at yuktsi's place, but im yet to get mine since my friend told me that he is sorting them according to order number (more than half of total orders are with gmk keycaps bundled (?) and my order is one of the last).

(https://i.imgur.com/SDVwI75.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FDpSbgB.jpg)

small crack at one of the screw holes for the metal stand :/
(https://i.imgur.com/ETvsflG.jpg)

size comparison with norbatouch
(https://i.imgur.com/nr44xKu.jpg)

No defect on my PCB or the LEDs. The anodization is excellent, noticeably better than norbauer's. Almost similar to iphone's aluminum anodization. Not sure the exact weight, but the exent feels slightly heavier than norbatouch.

Hopefully the group buy runners can sort the rest of the orders as fast as possible.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 20 April 2018, 02:45:35
Finally got my Premium kit (polycarb bottom, brass plate). My friend helped to self collect from one of the guys involved in the GB a couple of weeks ago and assembled it for me. The GMK keycaps have already arrived at yuktsi's place, but im yet to get mine since my friend told me that he is sorting them according to order number (more than half of total orders are with gmk keycaps bundled (?) and my order is one of the last).

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/SDVwI75.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/FDpSbgB.jpg)


small crack at one of the screw holes for the metal stand :/
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ETvsflG.jpg)


size comparison with norbatouch
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/nr44xKu.jpg)


No defect on my PCB or the LEDs. The anodization is excellent, noticeably better than norbauer's. Almost similar to iphone's aluminum anodization. Not sure the exact weight, but the exent feels slightly heavier than norbatouch.

Hopefully the group buy runners can sort the rest of the orders as fast as possible.

Thanks for the excellent post, your board looks great apart from the one slight defect hopefully that gets resolved for you


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 20 April 2018, 02:47:41
Finally got my Premium kit (polycarb bottom, brass plate). My friend helped to self collect from one of the guys involved in the GB a couple of weeks ago and assembled it for me. The GMK keycaps have already arrived at yuktsi's place, but im yet to get mine since my friend told me that he is sorting them according to order number (more than half of total orders are with gmk keycaps bundled (?) and my order is one of the last).

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/SDVwI75.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/FDpSbgB.jpg)


small crack at one of the screw holes for the metal stand :/
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ETvsflG.jpg)


size comparison with norbatouch
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/nr44xKu.jpg)


No defect on my PCB or the LEDs. The anodization is excellent, noticeably better than norbauer's. Almost similar to iphone's aluminum anodization. Not sure the exact weight, but the exent feels slightly heavier than norbatouch.

Hopefully the group buy runners can sort the rest of the orders as fast as possible.
That looks fantastic.

I hope I can find an extra. The more I see it, the more I like it.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 20 April 2018, 12:14:45
my friend told me that he is sorting them according to order number

Oohh, interesting. Is there a way to see what order number we have? I see a line like this on my invoice:

Code: [Select]
Invoice #:Shipping-024
I'm guessing that's my order number? Not a very low number, but not too bad I suppose.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lzlzh035 on Tue, 24 April 2018, 04:03:37
Anyone got anything?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Moderate on Tue, 24 April 2018, 09:25:07
Anyone got anything?

Still waiting for an update on why my February tracking number was and is still a complete dud, so that's a no from me. :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Tue, 24 April 2018, 10:08:34
With a situation like this one, I feel almost guilty having my broken Exent. What a joke of GB
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Tue, 24 April 2018, 10:39:30
I really want to leave already lol
Just hoping Yuktsi finishes his business soon so he can get to sorting this thing out. I'm only missing out on the caps and switches :/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: achilles_other_heel on Tue, 24 April 2018, 10:40:38
With a situation like this one, I feel almost guilty having my broken Exent. What a joke of GB
What do you mean broken? How so?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Tue, 24 April 2018, 14:26:34
Quote
What a joke of GB

I'm not sure if I should throw my exent in the trash if it ever ships or sell it immediately. Not expecting to get the chance to do either..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 24 April 2018, 14:51:28
I'm not sure if I should throw my exent in the trash if it ever ships or sell it immediately. Not expecting to get the chance to do either..

Why? Once you have it.. It's still a gorgeous board. People wouldn't be nearly so on tilt about it if it wasn't something we all want
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: p_blaze on Tue, 24 April 2018, 15:13:13
I'm not sure if I should throw my exent in the trash if it ever ships or sell it immediately. Not expecting to get the chance to do either..

Why? Once you have it.. It's still a gorgeous board. People wouldn't be nearly so on tilt about it if it wasn't something we all want

it represents everything wrong with this hobby, that's why
I'd probably find myself selling it too
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Tue, 24 April 2018, 15:18:17
Quote
What a joke of GB

I'm not sure if I should throw my exent in the trash if it ever ships or sell it immediately. Not expecting to get the chance to do either..
Yeah, you should def just give that pesky board to me when you get it <_< >_>
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 24 April 2018, 17:05:12
Quote
What a joke of GB

I'm not sure if I should throw my exent in the trash if it ever ships or sell it immediately. Not expecting to get the chance to do either..
If you don't want it, I'll be the trash can.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 24 April 2018, 17:29:04
The "I'm so over it I'll literally throw it away or give it to someone for free" comments are so distasteful (unless you're actually going to do it like the person a few pages back did).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Tue, 24 April 2018, 17:36:17
The "I'm so over it I'll literally throw it away or give it to someone for free" comments are so distasteful (unless you're actually going to do it like the person a few pages back did).

Agree, it also tells the person shipping "hey, I don't care for this anymore, ship this last", which is quite funny.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Tue, 24 April 2018, 18:47:44
no way man, ****ting in this thread is the best way to expedite the shipping and production of your keyboard  ;) :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 24 April 2018, 21:11:09
Thread cleaned up a little bit to remove personal insults, which are against the ToS.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Tue, 24 April 2018, 21:51:17
I'm not sure if I should throw my exent in the trash if it ever ships or sell it immediately. Not expecting to get the chance to do either..

Why? Once you have it.. It's still a gorgeous board. People wouldn't be nearly so on tilt about it if it wasn't something we all want

it represents everything wrong with this hobby, that's why
I'd probably find myself selling it too

AMEN!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 24 April 2018, 23:39:30
Thread cleaned up a little bit to remove personal insults, which are against the ToS.

bless you
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Wed, 25 April 2018, 00:30:21
Thread cleaned up a little bit to remove personal insults, which are against the ToS.

thank you kind soul.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Wed, 25 April 2018, 03:54:18
With a situation like this one, I feel almost guilty having my broken Exent. What a joke of GB
What do you mean broken? How so?

My exent arrived with a broken bottom and a faulty PCB that I ended up screwing up a bit more trying to fix it. You can see pics on this thread if you look through my posts
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: KaosJ on Wed, 25 April 2018, 05:59:56
Does anyone have the kit with alu bottom and mind to share some pics? 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 25 April 2018, 12:59:36
Anyone got anything?

Still waiting for an update on why my February tracking number was and is still a complete dud, so that's a no from me. :thumb:

Same here...  If it shipped, it would be here by now.  Just left wondering if I will ever see an EXENT on my doorstep.  Aluminum Bottom, Basic.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Wed, 25 April 2018, 13:09:44
Anyone got anything?

Still waiting for an update on why my February tracking number was and is still a complete dud, so that's a no from me. :thumb:

Same here...  If it shipped, it would be here by now.  Just left wondering if I will ever see an EXENT on my doorstep.  Aluminum Bottom, Basic.
Me three, tracking number back in February and still no movement.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Thu, 26 April 2018, 12:08:58
I haven't even gotten my tracking number on my premium kit...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 26 April 2018, 13:17:36
I haven't even gotten my tracking number on my premium kit...

Pretty sure nobody has, and I have a feeling it's going to stay that way for awhile. Yukstsi appears to be the only one working on this project and he's currently running another GB himself. So his work on Exent is likely to be divided at best.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 26 April 2018, 13:35:12
I don't know that tracking ever ended up working for the people who have received their kits, premium or else wise, it's probably better to forget about tracking altogether. I don't even think tracking should be a priority over just making progress, even if it is ass-grindingly slow.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ClearKeys on Thu, 26 April 2018, 13:53:52
What is the main issue with moving forward? It seemed like most of the production was done. For some kits, just needed some minor things. Is it mostly a money issue? If i have to throw in a few extra bucks to get my items, then so be it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Thu, 26 April 2018, 13:59:24
What is the main issue with moving forward? It seemed like most of the production was done. For some kits, just needed some minor things. Is it mostly a money issue? If i have to throw in a few extra bucks to get my items, then so be it.

I think it's mostly a flaky leadership issue. Remember all of those big names attached to this project? Yeah apparently none of them care much about seeing it through, and are clearly just more interested in the publicity. Except Yuktsi I guess, whose attention is predominately elsewhere. Nonetheless, all of those guys, without exception, will never see another dime from me, so, good job guys!

Regarding production status, I mean, we all say it seemed like a lot of the work was done but I don't think we really know.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 26 April 2018, 14:20:00
What is the main issue with moving forward? It seemed like most of the production was done. For some kits, just needed some minor things. Is it mostly a money issue? If i have to throw in a few extra bucks to get my items, then so be it.

I don't exactly have proof, but I personally believe a lack of funds is a large part of the problem. One of the last things Juahenza said here was:

...We are at a point where we are chipping in our own money on this project. Would appreciate a little more patience and understanding, as we will always be around to ensure that all orders are delivered. By the end of the day, I hope it's worthwhile for us to go through all this stresses and hassles.

So if the GB runners were already dipping into their own pockets back in December, before they even had premium kit stuff shipped to them, I imagine it's especially true now.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 26 April 2018, 14:30:31
What is the main issue with moving forward? It seemed like most of the production was done. For some kits, just needed some minor things. Is it mostly a money issue? If i have to throw in a few extra bucks to get my items, then so be it.

Yuktsi and I have spoke about the situation on a few occasions (very recently) and the main predicament was that he was basically riding this solo for a while and he's only been able to ship a couple boards a week; be it due to restricted time, lack of access to logistics to move a significant amount of units at a time, funds (which I personally find unlikely) or whatever else.

Seems he's getting some backup starting this week or the next so hopefully things progress in a more meaningful way by then.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 26 April 2018, 14:41:33
Yuktsi and I have spoke about the situation on a few occasions (very recently) and the main predicament was that he was basically riding this solo for a while and he's only been able to ship a couple boards a week; be it due to restricted time, lack of access to logistics to move a significant amount of units at a time, funds (which I personally find unlikely) or whatever else.

Seems he's getting some backup starting this week or the next so hopefully things progress in a more meaningful way by then.

Might be off topic, but I just want to thank you immensely for providing insight/updates when possible. Really helps keep me sane(ish).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 26 April 2018, 14:59:25
What is the main issue with moving forward? It seemed like most of the production was done. For some kits, just needed some minor things. Is it mostly a money issue? If i have to throw in a few extra bucks to get my items, then so be it.

Yuktsi and I have spoke about the situation on a few occasions (very recently) and the main predicament was that he was basically riding this solo for a while and he's only been able to ship a couple boards a week; be it due to restricted time, lack of access to logistics to move a significant amount of units at a time, funds (which I personally find unlikely) or whatever else.

Seems he's getting some backup starting this week or the next so hopefully things progress in a more meaningful way by then.

Thanks for the news Vigrith.  Yuktsi is in Malaysia, correct?  Is Juahenza there as well?   It seems prudent to whomever is now left running EXENT to have a 'packing party' and just put in one last effort to close out the GB.

Thanks all who are involved in getting this moving!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 26 April 2018, 15:11:40
Might be off topic, but I just want to thank you immensely for providing insight/updates when possible. Really helps keep me sane(ish).

Thanks for the news Vigrith.  Yuktsi is in Malaysia, correct?  Is Juahenza there as well?   It seems prudent to whomever is now left running EXENT to have a 'packing party' and just put in one last effort to close out the GB.

Thanks all who are involved in getting this moving!

It's easier to do so as an "outsider" compared to someone responsible for the project because I don't get bombarded with questions and complaints (and/or insults) like they would. I try to not get super involved because I don't want to get people too riled up on either side (be it for good or for bad) but I figure if I can share some insight, many of you guys deserve to be in the know too.

Juahenza is in Malaysia too yea, I'm hoping with him being back to ship/help Yuktsi we get to see some progress with the remaining aluminium bottom kits as well as premiums.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 26 April 2018, 15:13:07
I just want to know what century I'll get my refund for my stabs and my replacement bottom in.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Fri, 27 April 2018, 06:56:45
Refunds HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Moderate on Fri, 27 April 2018, 11:36:25
Received an update regarding the shipping of my Exent. I've been issued a new tracking number which does have a record. It appears Vigrith is likely right, in that yuktsi is working to complete the groupbuy even if he is only able to send out just one or two boards a week.

I hope that bodes well for the rest of you with dud tracking. The expected arrival is next week so I'll update when I receive it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 27 April 2018, 11:43:51
Might be off topic, but I just want to thank you immensely for providing insight/updates when possible. Really helps keep me sane(ish).

Thanks for the news Vigrith.  Yuktsi is in Malaysia, correct?  Is Juahenza there as well?   It seems prudent to whomever is now left running EXENT to have a 'packing party' and just put in one last effort to close out the GB.

Thanks all who are involved in getting this moving!

It's easier to do so as an "outsider" compared to someone responsible for the project because I don't get bombarded with questions and complaints (and/or insults) like they would. I try to not get super involved because I don't want to get people too riled up on either side (be it for good or for bad) but I figure if I can share some insight, many of you guys deserve to be in the know too.

Juahenza is in Malaysia too yea, I'm hoping with him being back to ship/help Yuktsi we get to see some progress with the remaining aluminium bottom kits as well as premiums.

Thanks, man.  I have a tracking number, but it's not functioning (No record error).  Do you think it's worth PMing Yuktsi, or should I just wait? I don't want to take up time that could be used for packing/shipping. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 27 April 2018, 12:34:46
I have a tracking number, but it's not functioning (No record error).  Do you think it's worth PMing Yuktsi, or should I just wait? I don't want to take up time that could be used for packing/shipping.

It sounds like he got a second, separate tracking number assigned when the board got shipped. Hopefully that means you will also get a new tracking number when yours is that will actually work. I don't know that Yuktsi would be able to help until your board gets shipped, at which point it sounds like you should get a new tracking number anyways.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Fri, 27 April 2018, 18:25:33
Received an update regarding the shipping of my Exent. I've been issued a new tracking number which does have a record. It appears Vigrith is likely right, in that yuktsi is working to complete the groupbuy even if he is only able to send out just one or two boards a week.

I hope that bodes well for the rest of you with dud tracking. The expected arrival is next week so I'll update when I receive it.

This is what happened with mine, he initially wondered why the tracking number wasn't working because i asked. They used different waybills. Hopefully the others get theirs settled soon.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Fri, 27 April 2018, 20:53:38
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.

Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Fri, 27 April 2018, 20:57:49
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.

Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)


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(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)


I'm surprised they didn't find a way to crack it too. Congratulations!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 27 April 2018, 21:02:34
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.

Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.

Whoa. I know people keep praising the anodization of this board, but the way the light is hitting it in your photos... I finally believe the hype.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Fri, 27 April 2018, 21:05:15
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.

Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)

Did you get ever get a tracking number?

Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Fri, 27 April 2018, 21:16:04
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.

Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)

Did you get ever get a tracking number?

Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk

I had to PM with yuktsi back and forth a bit but what people have said earlier in the thread is correct - there appears to be a mix up with the tracking number and some other waybill number. Stuff is on its way, just glacially slow.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Moderate on Sat, 28 April 2018, 05:48:36
Received an update regarding the shipping of my Exent. I've been issued a new tracking number which does have a record. It appears Vigrith is likely right, in that yuktsi is working to complete the groupbuy even if he is only able to send out just one or two boards a week.

I hope that bodes well for the rest of you with dud tracking. The expected arrival is next week so I'll update when I receive it.

This is what happened with mine, he initially wondered why the tracking number wasn't working because i asked. They used different waybills. Hopefully the others get theirs settled soon.

Ahh, I see. Fingers crossed for everyone else then!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sat, 28 April 2018, 10:26:08
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.

Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)



Not that I'm a fan of our color choices but looks really great. I'm amazed that this GB isn't totally dead and boards are actually being shipped, but this is definitely positive news.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 28 April 2018, 11:00:27
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.

Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)


god damn

blackpink in your area
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 28 April 2018, 11:46:50
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.

Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HCNXqr0.jpg)


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(https://i.imgur.com/8BEZL5q.jpg)


That's a pretty menacing looking bottom on that particular keyboard combo.  Like terminator vs. my little pony.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Sat, 28 April 2018, 13:20:42
(https://i.imgur.com/uc5vbd2.jpg)

Finished it up this morning. It's a dream to type on :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: g_ken92 on Sun, 29 April 2018, 06:21:38
Good news: my EXENT finally arrived today. The anodization is top notch, did a quick test and plugged in the PCB, it seems they've fixed the PCB issues or I got lucky, no RGB LEDs off or wonky.

Potato pics, but the aluminum bottom is very nice as well.

Whoa. I know people keep praising the anodization of this board, but the way the light is hitting it in your photos... I finally believe the hype.

Yea the anodization is definitely among the best ive ever felt out of all the keebs ive encountered. Super smooth, but also prone to finger print smudges especially if u went for darker colors like black/grey.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Tue, 01 May 2018, 11:43:43
Does anyone know if whoever is running the GB has the mod switches on hand for premium orders or that another mystery?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 01 May 2018, 19:56:40
Does anyone know if whoever is running the GB has the mod switches on hand for premium orders or that another mystery?

I know back when Yuktsi was talking with Sheraton about receiving the premium kit items they had mentioned switches as well. I assume that includes mod switches too but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TheIronCore on Wed, 02 May 2018, 13:12:08
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(https://i.imgur.com/uc5vbd2.jpg)


Finished it up this morning. It's a dream to type on :)
That looks stunning!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Moderate on Thu, 03 May 2018, 00:05:20
Keyboard arrived! I'll post better pics when I can get around to building it, but here are 2 initial pics: https://imgur.com/a/u9h1NI5

My order was for a silver base kit with extra black alu bottom, 8 degree riser and stabilisers.

Anodising quality is as excellent as others have claimed. Some minor but negligible machining faults on the plate (uneven edges in some switch holes). Polycarbonate bottom was appropriately padded with foam and the riser bar was separate, so mine isn't cracked at all. Missing a couple of the rubber feet on the corners of the base, but not a big deal. The PCB could've been packed better with some padding as it was freely rattling around in between the alu top and base. However, all the LEDs are working! Glad to see that seems to have been sorted out. No issues with the bootmapper.

My only actual complaint so far (besides the delays) is that the stabilisers weren't sent. I think I'm not the first to be missing stabilisers either. I can't build the board without stabs as they need to go on first, so.. I guess I'll just order some separately so I can get on with it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Thu, 03 May 2018, 00:19:44
My only actual complaint so far (besides the delays) is that the stabilisers weren't sent. I think I'm not the first to be missing stabilisers either. I can't build the board without stabs as they need to go on first, so.. I guess I'll just order some separately so I can get on with it.
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Moderate on Thu, 03 May 2018, 02:54:12
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.

Hahah, good tip! Unfortunately it looks like those Zeal stabs won't be shipping til next month so I think I'll pick up some cheap stabs in the meantime.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Thu, 03 May 2018, 06:10:05
It would be nice to know how many orders were sent/received compared to total orders.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 03 May 2018, 06:12:12
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.

Hahah, good tip! Unfortunately it looks like those Zeal stabs won't be shipping til next month so I think I'll pick up some cheap stabs in the meantime.

Just pick up a set of Cherry screw ins (probably also named GMK screw ins), mod them, and you're good to go :p
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 03 May 2018, 06:37:09
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.

Hahah, good tip! Unfortunately it looks like those Zeal stabs won't be shipping til next month so I think I'll pick up some cheap stabs in the meantime.

If you do go with screw-in stabs be careful. Lots of people have had issues with them on their boards. You'll definitely want some plastic/nylon washers or tape.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 03 May 2018, 09:46:19
Between work, family, and other hobbies, I haven't been around in the keyboard community for some time now, but stopping by and catching up on the situation here has been quite the ride.

Shipping-051 here, I hope to see my two kits safe and sound. No tracking number, as far as I can see.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 03 May 2018, 12:43:09
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.

Hahah, good tip! Unfortunately it looks like those Zeal stabs won't be shipping til next month so I think I'll pick up some cheap stabs in the meantime.

Just pick up a set of Cherry screw ins (probably also named GMK screw ins), mod them, and you're good to go :p

Cherry produces the screw-in stabs which GMK then resells. They're the same physical items. Much better value than Zealstabs unless you must have transparent stabs
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 03 May 2018, 13:41:33
I just saw some transparent screw in stabalizers on MD for like $35
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lecorsair on Thu, 03 May 2018, 13:50:15
I just saw some transparent screw in stabalizers on MD for like $35

Those are the zeal stabs - hence the price.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Thu, 03 May 2018, 13:59:37
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.

Hahah, good tip! Unfortunately it looks like those Zeal stabs won't be shipping til next month so I think I'll pick up some cheap stabs in the meantime.

Just pick up a set of Cherry screw ins (probably also named GMK screw ins), mod them, and you're good to go :p

Cherry produces the screw-in stabs which GMK then resells. They're the same physical items. Much better value than Zealstabs unless you must have transparent stabs

You say this like I haven't ordered 270 sets from GMK ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 03 May 2018, 15:22:44
I've heard lots of love for the zeal screw in stabs; I bought a set for my M65-A, thinking might get another for the exent. I've got time to kill anyway.

Hahah, good tip! Unfortunately it looks like those Zeal stabs won't be shipping til next month so I think I'll pick up some cheap stabs in the meantime.

Just pick up a set of Cherry screw ins (probably also named GMK screw ins), mod them, and you're good to go :p

Cherry produces the screw-in stabs which GMK then resells. They're the same physical items. Much better value than Zealstabs unless you must have transparent stabs

You say this like I haven't ordered 270 sets from GMK ;)

Should've ordered 270 sets from Zeal, much better value for your buckaroos  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 04 May 2018, 13:53:42
It would be nice to know how many orders were sent/received compared to total orders.

I would like to know as well.  It appears my set shipped, as I got a 'tracking number,' and at this point I'm not sure when/where it shipped and what to expect for arrival.  Sounds like what's starting to arrive now is what I ordered: basic black kit with aluminum extra black aluminum bottom.  Just crossing my fingers and waiting at this point!  I'll PM Yuktsi again, but don't want to waste too much of his time.  I'll let you know if I hear anything.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lzlzh035 on Sat, 05 May 2018, 08:24:27
Have to move and just pm’ed yuktsi and juahenza.

 Please don't ship to the old address! :confused:
 Please don't ship to the old address! :confused:
 Please don't ship to the old address! :confused:

Or I'll lose it :(

Who else should I contact if no one reply?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lecorsair on Sat, 05 May 2018, 08:47:54
Email too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 05 May 2018, 09:59:34
Who else should I contact if no one reply?

Yuktsi and Juahenza (and some of their local friends) were basically the only ones doing the work in this GB. And Juahenza rarely/never signs into GeekHack and probably won't check his PM's if he did.

Yuktsi is your only hope. If you don't get a response after PM'ing him once or twice you might want to get in contact with the postal service and see if they can do anything. I think sometimes Yuktsi takes a while to respond so you might have to be patient.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: ClearKeys on Mon, 07 May 2018, 07:45:58
Have to move and just pm’ed yuktsi and juahenza.

 Please don't ship to the old address! :confused:
 Please don't ship to the old address! :confused:
 Please don't ship to the old address! :confused:

Or I'll lose it :(

Who else should I contact if no one reply?

Contact your post office or relevant mail carrier and let them know to forward to new address also.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: flyingpike on Mon, 07 May 2018, 16:20:00
Received both of my EXENTs today (in USA via UPS from SF Express): space gray premium, and basic pink, both polycarbonate bottoms. Anodizing job on both is great, there is one tiny nick in the pink one that you can only see if you know where to look for it. GMK set also looks good at a glance, although will unwrap and note any issues once I get to building these. Also received my Mod switches which also seem fine. No stabilizers with either case, but at this point the $12 is a sunk cost that I'm not going to spend a lot of effort worrying about. Still need to test both PCBs, but hope to get these built in the next week or so and will reply if I find any deeper problems.

All in all, happy to finally receive these after 1+ year. For those still waiting, I recommend reaching out to Yuktsi via PM and having some patience. Took a little over a week for him to get me sorted out, but once I got updated tracking numbers I did not have any issues. Now the wait for GMK Laser begins in earnest...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 07 May 2018, 17:53:50
Received both of my EXENTs today (in USA via UPS from SF Express): space gray premium, and basic pink, both polycarbonate bottoms. Anodizing job on both is great, there is one tiny nick in the pink one that you can only see if you know where to look for it. GMK set also looks good at a glance, although will unwrap and note any issues once I get to building these. Also received my Mod switches which also seem fine. No stabilizers with either case, but at this point the $12 is a sunk cost that I'm not going to spend a lot of effort worrying about. Still need to test both PCBs, but hope to get these built in the next week or so and will reply if I find any deeper problems.

All in all, happy to finally receive these after 1+ year. For those still waiting, I recommend reaching out to Yuktsi via PM and having some patience. Took a little over a week for him to get me sorted out, but once I got updated tracking numbers I did not have any issues. Now the wait for GMK Laser begins in earnest...

Whoa, a premium kit in the USA! Sounds pretty similar to my order. That makes me excited. Good to know I shouldn't be expecting my stabilizers. I was having second thoughts on using the screw-in stabilizers anyway.

Do you happen to know what your order number was? It should look something like "Invoice ID Shipping - 024" on your invoice.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: flyingpike on Mon, 07 May 2018, 18:31:29
Received both of my EXENTs today (in USA via UPS from SF Express): space gray premium, and basic pink, both polycarbonate bottoms. Anodizing job on both is great, there is one tiny nick in the pink one that you can only see if you know where to look for it. GMK set also looks good at a glance, although will unwrap and note any issues once I get to building these. Also received my Mod switches which also seem fine. No stabilizers with either case, but at this point the $12 is a sunk cost that I'm not going to spend a lot of effort worrying about. Still need to test both PCBs, but hope to get these built in the next week or so and will reply if I find any deeper problems.

All in all, happy to finally receive these after 1+ year. For those still waiting, I recommend reaching out to Yuktsi via PM and having some patience. Took a little over a week for him to get me sorted out, but once I got updated tracking numbers I did not have any issues. Now the wait for GMK Laser begins in earnest...

Whoa, a premium kit in the USA! Sounds pretty similar to my order. That makes me excited. Good to know I shouldn't be expecting my stabilizers. I was having second thoughts on using the screw-in stabilizers anyway.

Do you happen to know what your order number was? It should look something like "Invoice ID Shipping - 024" on your invoice.

I had two orders, first was 15, second was in the 70s I think. I got a tracking number back in February but never any action on it so I reached out to Yuktsi a couple weeks ago.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 07 May 2018, 19:17:44
I had two orders, first was 15, second was in the 70s I think. I got a tracking number back in February but never any action on it so I reached out to Yuktsi a couple weeks ago.

Thanks for the info! Rumor has it the kits are being sent out in order of invoice number, so I was curious. I'm 24, so that's not much further than 15. But I've yet to even get a tracking number so I'm probably a long ways to go.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Mon, 07 May 2018, 20:35:54
Do you have to flash the pcb for your computer to register the key-presses or should it come with a basic mapping?
Mine is unresponsive out of the box. Anyone experience this or can point me in the right direction?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Krytone on Mon, 07 May 2018, 21:18:42
Do you have to flash the pcb for your computer to register the key-presses or should it come with a basic mapping?
Mine is unresponsive out of the box. Anyone experience this or can point me in the right direction?

i think you need to load it in bootmapper to map each key.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: chromatically on Mon, 07 May 2018, 21:50:44
Do you have to flash the pcb for your computer to register the key-presses or should it come with a basic mapping?
Mine is unresponsive out of the box. Anyone experience this or can point me in the right direction?

I had to use https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper and followed instructions there, default had no keys mapped.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Tue, 08 May 2018, 04:04:07
I had two orders, first was 15, second was in the 70s I think. I got a tracking number back in February but never any action on it so I reached out to Yuktsi a couple weeks ago.

Thanks for the info! Rumor has it the kits are being sent out in order of invoice number, so I was curious. I'm 24, so that's not much further than 15. But I've yet to even get a tracking number so I'm probably a long ways to go.

Mine is premium kit. The series is shipping-061 and no tracking number. FYI
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Tue, 08 May 2018, 08:55:13
Do you have to flash the pcb for your computer to register the key-presses or should it come with a basic mapping?
Mine is unresponsive out of the box. Anyone experience this or can point me in the right direction?

I had to use https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper and followed instructions there, default had no keys mapped.

Yep, I loaded up bootmapper and all keys come with no keymap (BAD). Got it put together and programmed, it's working like a charm now!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 08 May 2018, 19:46:41
Still need to test both PCBs, but hope to get these built in the next week or so and will reply if I find any deeper problems.
How exactly does one go about testing the PCB before soldering switches in, or is that possible? Asking for a friend...   ;)
(really just for me in case the sarcasm is lost  :p )
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 08 May 2018, 20:01:17
How exactly does one go about testing the PCB before soldering switches in, or is that possible? Asking for a friend...   ;)
(really just for me in case the sarcasm is lost  :p )

First you need to set it up according to that GitHub link. From there you can use tweezers on each of the switch holes on the PCB to short the connection and imitate a keypress.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 11 May 2018, 11:21:27
I had two orders, first was 15, second was in the 70s I think. I got a tracking number back in February but never any action on it so I reached out to Yuktsi a couple weeks ago.

Thanks for the info! Rumor has it the kits are being sent out in order of invoice number, so I was curious. I'm 24, so that's not much further than 15. But I've yet to even get a tracking number so I'm probably a long ways to go.

#77  *crosses fingers*
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Fri, 11 May 2018, 11:53:11
I got my basic order of Black Top + Aluminum Bottom today. The packaging was really good but unfortunately there's a little scratch near right bottom. Not sure if its from before or after shipping but probably customs have made it. I did not check bottom leds since I only got an aluminum bottom but the PCB itself seems fine for now, gotta build the board first. The case itself is amazing though, they weren't kidding when they said you have to see it in person to really appreciate it. Weights a whopping 2.3 kilos before switches and keycaps. The SS feet is really hefty.  I'll try to post some pics when I manage to build the board. By the way golden holtites have fit in decently for some of the normal holes, did not try them in bottom row though.

I would like to thanks TARO for the design and Yuktsi for all the work he has done. This was a really awful GB but the board is really great.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Shiro583 on Sat, 12 May 2018, 03:08:49
Does anyone know how I could get into contact with Yuktsi or whoever is handling orders for this GB now?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 12 May 2018, 10:03:31
Does anyone know how I could get into contact with Yuktsi or whoever is handling orders for this GB now?

From what I've read your best bet is PM'ing Yuktsi. Unfortunately it might take him a while to respond, and he might miss or forget your PM.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Shiro583 on Sat, 12 May 2018, 23:29:43
Does anyone know how I could get into contact with Yuktsi or whoever is handling orders for this GB now?

From what I've read your best bet is PM'ing Yuktsi. Unfortunately it might take him a while to respond, and he might miss or forget your PM.

Yuktsi has stopped responding to my messages.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Sun, 13 May 2018, 08:02:39
Does anyone know how I could get into contact with Yuktsi or whoever is handling orders for this GB now?

From what I've read your best bet is PM'ing Yuktsi. Unfortunately it might take him a while to respond, and he might miss or forget your PM.

Yuktsi has stopped responding to my messages.

He has missed my message from more than a month ago, but after asking a month after he has responded. You're going to have to pm him again, or if you've pm'ed him for some time now best bet is to wait a bit more.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Shados on Sun, 13 May 2018, 19:50:46
I had two orders, first was 15, second was in the 70s I think. I got a tracking number back in February but never any action on it so I reached out to Yuktsi a couple weeks ago.

Thanks for the info! Rumor has it the kits are being sent out in order of invoice number, so I was curious. I'm 24, so that's not much further than 15. But I've yet to even get a tracking number so I'm probably a long ways to go.

...I don't think so. I'm invoice #8 and I haven't got ****. Australia is also quite a bit closer to Malaysia than the US is, so shipping certainly shouldn't take longer.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 14 May 2018, 18:54:00
Haven't checked this GB in a couple months, any update on replacements for cracked poly bottoms?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 14 May 2018, 19:24:59
Haven't checked this GB in a couple months, any update on replacements for cracked poly bottoms?

I believe they haven't been talked about since January 2nd. As long as you've filled out the google form I think that's all that can be done for now. Replacement bottoms won't be worked on until all shipments are finished, so at this rate you still have a ways to go.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Mon, 14 May 2018, 19:37:25
i kind of figured. thanks!
Haven't checked this GB in a couple months, any update on replacements for cracked poly bottoms?

I believe they haven't been talked about since January 2nd. As long as you've filled out the google form I think that's all that can be done for now. Replacement bottoms won't be worked on until all shipments are finished, so at this rate you still have a ways to go.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yangsiyin on Mon, 14 May 2018, 21:04:16
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Mon, 14 May 2018, 21:04:38
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??

No, it closed months ago
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yangsiyin on Mon, 14 May 2018, 21:15:35
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??

No, it closed months ago

Oh. thanks for that.I thought it still alive since the google form is there.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 14 May 2018, 21:22:18
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??

Reach out to user gumeraser

He was talking about throwing his away once he got it, you should see if you can buy it off him.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Mon, 14 May 2018, 23:35:34
First you need to set it up according to that GitHub link. From there you can use tweezers on each of the switch holes on the PCB to short the connection and imitate a keypress.

Excellent, thank you!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 14 May 2018, 23:46:17
First you need to set it up according to that GitHub link. From there you can use tweezers on each of the switch holes on the PCB to short the connection and imitate a keypress.

This is really helpful Traveler, thanks! I just got a PCB made and shipped and was trying to think of the best way, once all of the components are soldered on, I could test the board without soldering in switches.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Tue, 15 May 2018, 14:18:21
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??

Project Timeline
- Groupbuy ends 22th February 2016
- Payment deadline 28th February 2016
- Production 12-16 weeks

GB ended in 2016 lol. Maybe check https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/. Boards are still trickling out..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: p_blaze on Tue, 15 May 2018, 15:37:09
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??

No, it closed months ago

Oh. thanks for that.I thought it still alive since the google form is there.

you're lucky you didn't join this dumpster fire of a GB
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 16 May 2018, 11:48:20
First you need to set it up according to that GitHub link. From there you can use tweezers on each of the switch holes on the PCB to short the connection and imitate a keypress.

This is really helpful Traveler, thanks! I just got a PCB made and shipped and was trying to think of the best way, once all of the components are soldered on, I could test the board without soldering in switches.

Another good way is to use some electric wire, strip both ends and put some solder on them.  Bend it into a U shape, then touch each end to a contact.  That way, the wire you are making the connection with is insulated from you.  It's helpful on some controllers that require a short to put it into boot mode, too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: japanitrat on Wed, 16 May 2018, 14:35:45
Hi . I just place the order via the google form. Is this GB still alive??

Project Timeline
- Groupbuy ends 22th February 2016
- Payment deadline 28th February 2016
- Production 12-16 weeks

GB ended in 2016 lol. Maybe check https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/. Boards are still trickling out..

Typo, it was February 2017.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Thu, 17 May 2018, 04:13:00
Hope for my kit arrive one day.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: shantanujoshi on Sun, 20 May 2018, 23:34:05
I wonder if this GB is gonna be worse than that dude that JUST received his calm depths after like 4 years   :blank:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Katanadog on Sun, 20 May 2018, 23:50:52
Hopefully we get an update soon
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Krytone on Tue, 22 May 2018, 02:33:34
just got my exent. Saw all the boards too so its just a matter of time until everyone get theirs.

Board is huge, almost same as my full layout ducky3. Anod is super nice as everyone mentioned it is.
(https://i.imgur.com/Hhc1WOd.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Tue, 22 May 2018, 05:12:18
just got my exent. Saw all the boards too so its just a matter of time until everyone get theirs.

Board is huge, almost same as my full layout ducky3. Anod is super nice as everyone mentioned it is.

Congrats! What country you in?

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 22 May 2018, 07:50:17
just got my exent. Saw all the boards too so its just a matter of time until everyone get theirs.

Board is huge, almost same as my full layout ducky3. Anod is super nice as everyone mentioned it is.


Congrats! What country you in?



He's in Malaysia. In the same country as yuktsi and juahenza.


Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 22 May 2018, 11:47:19
just got my exent. Saw all the boards too so its just a matter of time until everyone get theirs.

Curious, how many boards did you see? Just thought I'd use that as a rough estimate of when my board might be shipped lol.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 22 May 2018, 11:48:04
Disregard this comment, I goofed up.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Krytone on Tue, 22 May 2018, 12:02:58
just got my exent. Saw all the boards too so its just a matter of time until everyone get theirs.

Curious, how many boards did you see? Just thought I'd use that as a rough estimate of when my board might be shipped lol.
There is no way to count it all as they are grouped by boxes per parts and not assembled boards. there are some packed boards too that are waiting to be shipped. i guess i dont have much good news but all i can say is that they are coming and will be shipped eventually.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 22 May 2018, 12:22:20
Did you happen to see a pile of replacement acrylic bottoms?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Tue, 22 May 2018, 16:05:27
Guys, I need some help with my PCB, unfortunately my _- , [{ , ;: , / ? \ and Left arrow column is not working at all and does not show up on Bootmapper. Should I touch up some pins on the MCU, if so any pointers about which ones would be really appreciated.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Tue, 22 May 2018, 21:32:15
Just wanted to let everyone one know, I received a tracking number back in February through PayPal that never worked but I just got a Reddit Pm from yuktsi with a new number. He said the board was picked up today and is on it's way. The tracking number doesn't work yet but I'll update here if/when the number works.

Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Krytone on Tue, 22 May 2018, 22:10:47
Did you happen to see a pile of replacement acrylic bottoms?
sorry man, i am not sure if those are replacements or for remaining orders.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Tue, 22 May 2018, 22:21:48
Hey guys. How’s everyone doing. I haven’t been on here much due to work, but thankfully that’s freed up recently.

I’ve also managed to catch up with Yuktsi :) he’s healthy & well but extremely busy. He was also nice enough to loan me a prototype Alice (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95054.msg2611933#msg2611933) to play with.

I missed the last 15 (?) pages of this thread, but thought I’d respond to the more recent comments. However, I feel obligated to put the post under a spoiler because it’s not an ‘official’ update, rather just my own personal take on things. Last I remember there were some people who would only accept updates from an ‘official’ source, so you may skip/disregard this post if you’re one of them.

Also, this post does not contain info regarding replacements/reships as I forgot to bring the topic up, but will do so when I go return the prototype.

More
(Yuktsi) has his own Alice GB he's been handling last couple weeks, he had to put up the threads, organise everything, go through entries, verify them, schedule machining, pick and order materials, etc so surely it's understandable that he hasn't been able to get around to shipping things himself and/or updating us here.

Not to mention doing a post-grad course with finals just round the corner.


I also have it in good standing that Juahenza is actually not dead outside of Geekhack

He's expecting his first child soon. I think that has to take priority over everything else.


...but from what I can tell he is paying for things out of pocket now, so Exent will only be moving forward as long as someone can afford to move boards. And if Alice provides some extra income to help out with Exent in the long run then maybe it'll be ok.

Jua & Yuktsi have been paying for things out of pocket since last year. On my end, I've even sent people WS2812Bs, lengths of wire, bumpons, screws and Cherry stabs from my own stash while covering the shipping cost (it is literally not my responsibility, I'm also a GB participant like you) before I started getting too many requests.

To be fair, some people have courteously offered to repay me for the parts, but I am reluctant to accept because it would have meant that they're double-paying. Besides, it’s only a few bucks.

There are a couple TGR GBs lined up over the next few months, obviously I can't say how the revenue will be utilised, but earning some extra $ can't hurt at this point.


What is the main issue with moving forward? It seemed like most of the production was done. For some kits, just needed some minor things. Is it mostly a money issue? If i have to throw in a few extra bucks to get my items, then so be it.

It's a manpower issue. This post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2599952#msg2599952) describes it quite well.


It would be nice to know how many orders were sent/received compared to total orders.

From a purely “sent” perspective, the figure is actually quite high, but takes a hit if missing stabs + orders with issues (faulty PCB/cracked bottom) are factored in.


Do you have to flash the pcb for your computer to register the key-presses or should it come with a basic mapping?
Mine is unresponsive out of the box. Anyone experience this or can point me in the right direction?

I had to use https://github.com/catweewee/Exent-Bootmapper and followed instructions there, default had no keys mapped.

TGR GB PCBs usually ship without a keymap, so flashing one wasn’t part of our consideration. We assumed that people would know how to do it themselves. In hindsight, that wasn’t a very smart assumption to make, and I personally will be learning from it.


...i guess i dont have much good news but all i can say is that they are coming and will be shipped eventually.

Yes


Guys, I need some help with my PCB, unfortunately my _- , [{ , ;: , / ? \ and Left arrow column is not working at all and does not show up on Bootmapper. Should I touch up some pins on the MCU, if so any pointers about which ones would be really appreciated.

Are you using screw-in stabs? I believe a workaround was discussed a few pages back.


Till next time!





Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marvellion on Wed, 23 May 2018, 03:26:53

Are you using screw-in stabs? I believe a workaround was discussed a few pages back.


Nope, the board is still fully unbuilt and I'm just using a tweezer and holtites to test it. The whole column is unresponsive unfortunately.

Edit: I managed to fix the board, the MCU is rotated on the PCB so its different from the MCU Diagram, whoops. My ROW4 pin was not soldered and now its fine.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Wed, 23 May 2018, 05:04:36

Are you using screw-in stabs? I believe a workaround was discussed a few pages back.


Nope, the board is still fully unbuilt and I'm just using a tweezer and holtites to test it. The whole column is unresponsive unfortunately.

PM'ed you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 23 May 2018, 09:05:29
Welcome back Cody! I really appreciated the updates you gave us last time, so it's good to see you again.

There are a couple TGR GBs lined up over the next few months, obviously I can't say how the revenue will be utilised, but earning some extra $ can't hurt at this point.

This kinda concerns me. If one of the biggest problem with Exent progress is lack of manpower then other GBs getting in the way isn't going to improve things. But at least we know to expect that now, so thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Wed, 23 May 2018, 11:27:50
I got a PM from Yuktsi out of the blue saying my Exent had been picked up this morning. He gave me a new tracking number too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 24 May 2018, 03:33:09
I got a PM from Yuktsi out of the blue saying my Exent had been picked up this morning. He gave me a new tracking number too.

I also just received an email from Yuktsi saying my Exent had been picked up as well and got a tracking number. (!!)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 24 May 2018, 14:12:56
Still nothing yet for me. Hopefully soon...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Thu, 24 May 2018, 20:42:10
I got a PM from Yuktsi out of the blue saying my Exent had been picked up this morning. He gave me a new tracking number too.

I also just received an email from Yuktsi saying my Exent had been picked up as well and got a tracking number. (!!)

Could you share the kit whether is premium or basic ?

Still nothing yet for me. Hopefully soon...
Me either, gray premium kit
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: g_ken92 on Thu, 24 May 2018, 21:37:43
I got a separate tracking code yesterday for the keycaps (the exent keyboard itself was self collected a few weeks back). Expecting to receive the keycaps today or the next working day (monday).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Fri, 25 May 2018, 02:03:40
I also just received an email from Yuktsi saying my Exent had been picked up as well and got a tracking number. (!!)

Could you share the kit whether is premium or basic ?

Premium kit, gray.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Fri, 25 May 2018, 04:06:23
Mine's a basic kit with alu bottom
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 25 May 2018, 07:13:53
Also received (and it was active effective immediately on pos Malaysia's site) my tracking for my premium kit a while back.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Fri, 25 May 2018, 09:31:59
Got a PM from yuktsi with Tracking as well!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 25 May 2018, 11:59:52
Nice to see so much activity! Has anyone who had PayPal issues had their board shipped or received? Like for a while my PayPal money was locked until Juahenza sent me something, so I got stickers as a temporary fix/loophole. Had anyone in that situation had board activity? I'm not sure how Yuktsi is keeping up with sent boards so I want to make sure my info is good.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: g_ken92 on Sat, 26 May 2018, 00:07:43
GMK Amos (Grey on black legends, extra esc and enter with black on red color)
(https://i.imgur.com/M21SWKF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qbh6vqs.jpg)

Just realized that the keycaps set does not come with stepped caps lock and some 1u bottom row, did not take those into consideration while having the keyboard switches soldered the first time around. But thats okay since im going to desolder the zealios switches with tealios in near future and will make proper adjustments to the switches location.

My first time using zealios and TBH i dont get the hype surrounding the switches haha. But I heard good stuffs about the tealios even from the guys who i trusted that have the same opinion as i am on the zealios.  Also, I will be changing the stabs from zeal screw in stabs to genuine cherry pcb mount stabs. The PCB has issues with screw in stabs and currently the stabs are not tightly screwed to prevent any potential problems. Besides, zeal stabs are mushy :/

*yes, the norbatouch at the back uses stock keycaps  :'( waiting for hyperfuse origins lol*
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 26 May 2018, 19:59:17
GMK Amos (Grey on black legends, extra esc and enter with black on red color)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/M21SWKF.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qbh6vqs.jpg)


Just realized that the keycaps set does not come with stepped caps lock and some 1u bottom row, did not take those into consideration while having the keyboard switches soldered the first time around. But thats okay since im going to desolder the zealios switches with tealios in near future and will make proper adjustments to the switches location.

My first time using zealios and TBH i dont get the hype surrounding the switches haha. But I heard good stuffs about the tealios even from the guys who i trusted that have the same opinion as i am on the zealios.  Also, I will be changing the stabs from zeal screw in stabs to genuine cherry pcb mount stabs. The PCB has issues with screw in stabs and currently the stabs are not tightly screwed to prevent any potential problems. Besides, zeal stabs are mushy :/

*yes, the norbatouch at the back uses stock keycaps  :'( waiting for hyperfuse origins lol*

Wait, are those the only caps that comes with the premium sets?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: flyingpike on Sat, 26 May 2018, 20:33:17
GMK Amos (Grey on black legends, extra esc and enter with black on red color)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/M21SWKF.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qbh6vqs.jpg)


Just realized that the keycaps set does not come with stepped caps lock and some 1u bottom row, did not take those into consideration while having the keyboard switches soldered the first time around. But thats okay since im going to desolder the zealios switches with tealios in near future and will make proper adjustments to the switches location.

My first time using zealios and TBH i dont get the hype surrounding the switches haha. But I heard good stuffs about the tealios even from the guys who i trusted that have the same opinion as i am on the zealios.  Also, I will be changing the stabs from zeal screw in stabs to genuine cherry pcb mount stabs. The PCB has issues with screw in stabs and currently the stabs are not tightly screwed to prevent any potential problems. Besides, zeal stabs are mushy :/

*yes, the norbatouch at the back uses stock keycaps  :'( waiting for hyperfuse origins lol*

Wait, are those the only caps that comes with the premium sets?

Yes, along with some space keys as is laid out in the first post showing the set.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Sat, 26 May 2018, 20:52:01
It's still beyond me how the keyset doesn't cover all the keyboard layouts... Oh well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: g_ken92 on Sat, 26 May 2018, 20:57:17
GMK Amos (Grey on black legends, extra esc and enter with black on red color)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/M21SWKF.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qbh6vqs.jpg)


Just realized that the keycaps set does not come with stepped caps lock and some 1u bottom row, did not take those into consideration while having the keyboard switches soldered the first time around. But thats okay since im going to desolder the zealios switches with tealios in near future and will make proper adjustments to the switches location.

My first time using zealios and TBH i dont get the hype surrounding the switches haha. But I heard good stuffs about the tealios even from the guys who i trusted that have the same opinion as i am on the zealios.  Also, I will be changing the stabs from zeal screw in stabs to genuine cherry pcb mount stabs. The PCB has issues with screw in stabs and currently the stabs are not tightly screwed to prevent any potential problems. Besides, zeal stabs are mushy :/

*yes, the norbatouch at the back uses stock keycaps  :'( waiting for hyperfuse origins lol*

Wait, are those the only caps that comes with the premium sets?

yes, and the blank 1.25, 2.25, 2.75 hidden at the back of the tray, as per the keyset pic in the first OP post
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Sat, 26 May 2018, 21:44:28
It's still beyond me how the keyset doesn't cover all the keyboard layouts... Oh well.

Funny too because the mockups showing the different color options have a mocked up version of the keycaps which include a stepped caps lock.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 27 May 2018, 07:29:10
It's still beyond me how the keyset doesn't cover all the keyboard layouts... Oh well.

Funny too because the mockups showing the different color options have a mocked up version of the keycaps which include a stepped caps lock.

I dun goofed and assumed that this has stepped caps as well. Must've missed out on an update or two some time back about the keyset specifically.

Oh well...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Sun, 27 May 2018, 14:29:09
It's still beyond me how the keyset doesn't cover all the keyboard layouts... Oh well.

Funny too because the mockups showing the different color options have a mocked up version of the keycaps which include a stepped caps lock.

I dun goofed and assumed that this has stepped caps as well. Must've missed out on an update or two some time back about the keyset specifically.

Oh well...

This GB just keeps getting better and better..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 27 May 2018, 15:13:09
This GB just keeps getting better and better..

What do you mean? The keys offered were and are shown on the first page, first post, 3 or something images down. If people didn't realise it didn't cover every possible layout that's entirely on them, it's understandable one may undergo such a lapse but out of everything you can rightfully complain about regarding the way this was handled, the contents of the GMK set are absolutely not it. Does anyone see a stepped caps lock? No. Same goes for the other "missing" keys.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Sun, 27 May 2018, 17:10:03
This GB just keeps getting better and better..

What do you mean? The keys offered were and are shown on the first page, first post, 3 or something images down. If people didn't realise it didn't cover every possible layout that's entirely on them, it's understandable one may undergo such a lapse but out of everything you can rightfully complain about regarding the way this was handled, the contents of the GMK set are absolutely not it. Does anyone see a stepped caps lock? No. Same goes for the other "missing" keys.

I think you’re on a different page, tonally, than we are—we were just saying it’s silly that the keycaps set doesn’t cover the layouts the board can do (which I think is true), not they they’re in the wrong for doing so or that we were mislead.

My comment about the stepped capslock was just trying to make light of the fact that all the mockups of the keyboard and GMK set show it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 27 May 2018, 17:23:29
I think you’re on a different page, tonally, than we are—we were just saying it’s silly that the keycaps set doesn’t cover the layouts the board can do (which I think is true), not they they’re in the wrong for doing so or that we were mislead.

My comment about the stepped capslock was just trying to make light of the fact that all the mockups of the keyboard and GMK set show it.

I understood your comment as well as everyone else's, I was specifically referring to gumeraser apparently sounding surprised that this is the case - lack of compatibility the set suffers from (which I agree is bad by design) was discussed both during IC as well as at least once early on the GB before it ended, which is why I'm kinda confused that someone says "wow as if this could be even worse lmao".

That directly implies that person was either not aware of the situation beforehand in my book, rather than stating it's silly that that's the case; maybe he worded it poorly, but that's the only interpretation to take away from what was said and I felt it was relatively distasteful considering the direction was looking to take (eg. more people popping up complaining and saying the sets are missing keys when they're not), hence my comment for clarification's sake.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Sun, 27 May 2018, 22:47:19
Ah I'm an idiot, I could have sworn I remembered there being a stepped capslock here:
(http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png)

Memory's fuzzy since its been like a year since I've seen that mock up. Either way I apologize and take back my comment. I'm just looking for anything to b***h about since I've been waiting for this thing for months without any idea when and if I'll get my board and what condition it'll be in.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Sun, 27 May 2018, 23:39:40
I think you’re on a different page, tonally, than we are—we were just saying it’s silly that the keycaps set doesn’t cover the layouts the board can do (which I think is true), not they they’re in the wrong for doing so or that we were mislead.

My comment about the stepped capslock was just trying to make light of the fact that all the mockups of the keyboard and GMK set show it.

I understood your comment as well as everyone else's, I was specifically referring to gumeraser apparently sounding surprised that this is the case - lack of compatibility the set suffers from (which I agree is bad by design) was discussed both during IC as well as at least once early on the GB before it ended, which is why I'm kinda confused that someone says "wow as if this could be even worse lmao".

Ah, my bad, I didn’t even notice that reply. I see where you’re coming from.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Shados on Tue, 29 May 2018, 01:46:38
I've lost track in this giant drama snowball of a thread, but has anyone received a blue unit yet?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Tue, 29 May 2018, 04:47:29
No more tracking? Mine is premium kit.  Invoice number is Shipping-061.
Somehow i can not PM yuktsi.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 29 May 2018, 04:52:45
a kit someone asked for me to build and had shipped direct to me arrives in about an hour to my place, my order hasnt shipped yet but cant wait to finally see this in person, will post pics once i have it together etc, glad to see they are still coming out
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: japanitrat on Tue, 29 May 2018, 06:17:32
I've lost track in this giant drama snowball of a thread, but has anyone received a blue unit yet?

Would also like to know as mine will be blue as well .. (I have shipping no. 005)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Tue, 29 May 2018, 07:09:41
I've lost track in this giant drama snowball of a thread, but has anyone received a blue unit yet?

Would also like to know as mine will be blue as well .. (I have shipping no. 005)

I have a tracking number for my blue one, it seems to be on it's way at least.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Tue, 29 May 2018, 07:49:13
I've lost track in this giant drama snowball of a thread, but has anyone received a blue unit yet?

Would also like to know as mine will be blue as well .. (I have shipping no. 005)
According to the tracking my blue one is arriving today. I'll post some pictures later tonight.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Carlos_the_turtle on Tue, 29 May 2018, 21:11:58
Blue Exent arrived today and despite the wait overall I'm pleased. The blue anodizing looks top notch, though a little more teal than expected. The silver bottom has a couple of dings (shown in the close up pictures) and some striations all the way across but since it's the bottom I'm not overly concerned.

As with just about everyone else I didn't get the stabilizers I order but I'm not going to lose any sleep over them. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/df26dd0236edd57d7634bb4dd0801c7c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/b8519c1048212af4923a8e1bdc67cf6f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/a63c8a35a654bd8ee3a910e4d70cd82e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/300e1565eaab5ed4e5c24c87c285dfdd.jpg)

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dead Encryption on Tue, 29 May 2018, 21:33:07
Does anyone here know how / where to find tutorial on how to program the exent? I tried using Catweewee's guide on github. But I'm having issues with the board. Certain rows are working and not working. Then when I tried to use the firmware from winkeyless.kr other keys worked and the ones that did before stopped....anyway, since I am used to QMK, I'm abit lost here.  :confused:


Update: The issue was my screw in stablizers.....fixed it by using washers and all is good. Typing this update on my exent!

I will be posting a typing test video later as well. If anyone is interested I also live streamed my build today.

https://twitch.tv/dead_encryption

or

https://youtube.com/deadencryption

In case anyone wants to check out the vods!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Tue, 29 May 2018, 21:44:35
Great news, hope mine order get the tracking number soon! My invoice number is 0189 though. ;D. Godspeed to you guys!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 30 May 2018, 06:45:19
Great news, hope mine order get the tracking number soon! My invoice number is 0189 though. ;D. Godspeed to you guys!

I think we've more or less debunked the theory that boards are being shipped in order of invoice number. So keep hoping!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 30 May 2018, 20:27:42
Oh
My
****ing
God

I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Shados on Wed, 30 May 2018, 21:06:21
Blue Exent arrived today and despite the wait overall I'm pleased. The blue anodizing looks top notch, though a little more teal than expected. The silver bottom has a couple of dings (shown in the close up pictures) and some striations all the way across but since it's the bottom I'm not overly concerned.

Thanks for the pics. Looks close enough to the expected colour, now if only mine would ship...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 30 May 2018, 22:39:02
I just got a tracking number update. Wow. Wowowowow.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: aya3154 on Thu, 31 May 2018, 01:02:10
Blue Exent arrived today and despite the wait overall I'm pleased. The blue anodizing looks top notch, though a little more teal than expected. The silver bottom has a couple of dings (shown in the close up pictures) and some striations all the way across but since it's the bottom I'm not overly concerned.

As with just about everyone else I didn't get the stabilizers I order but I'm not going to lose any sleep over them.
Show Image
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Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/b8519c1048212af4923a8e1bdc67cf6f.jpg)
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/a63c8a35a654bd8ee3a910e4d70cd82e.jpg)
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/300e1565eaab5ed4e5c24c87c285dfdd.jpg)


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Oh my, that looks pretty  :cool:

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Thu, 31 May 2018, 08:10:49
Oh
My
****ing
God

I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
I really hope this means mine won't be far behind!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 31 May 2018, 09:37:45
Oh
My
****ing
God

I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
I really hope this means mine won't be far behind!

Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet

Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 31 May 2018, 10:45:25
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet

Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here

Same for mine. My tracking number doesn't work in UPS either. I think you're probably right about them not being picked up yet; that was my assumption too.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 31 May 2018, 11:01:09
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet

Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here

Same for mine. My tracking number doesn't work in UPS either. I think you're probably right about them not being picked up yet; that was my assumption too.


Oh
My
****ing
God

I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
I really hope this means mine won't be far behind!

Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet

Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Sorry, the board was shipped using Aramex. Send me a PM if the tracking is still not working.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 31 May 2018, 11:09:16
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet

Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here

Same for mine. My tracking number doesn't work in UPS either. I think you're probably right about them not being picked up yet; that was my assumption too.


Oh
My
****ing
God

I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
I really hope this means mine won't be far behind!

Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet

Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Sorry, the board was shipped using Aramex. Send me a PM if the tracking is still not working.

Thanks for checking in Yuktsi!   Seems like shipping has ramped up.  Thanks for all you're doing to keep this GB moving.  Still no movement on my order from what I can tell (feel free to PM me if it's shipped and I missed something).  Take care and good luck finishing this GB up!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Thu, 31 May 2018, 11:10:22
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet

Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here

Same for mine. My tracking number doesn't work in UPS either. I think you're probably right about them not being picked up yet; that was my assumption too.


Oh
My
****ing
God

I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
I really hope this means mine won't be far behind!

Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet

Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Sorry, the board was shipped using Aramex. Send me a PM if the tracking is still not working.

Thanks for checking in Yuksti!   Seems like shipping has ramped up.  Thanks for all you're doing to keep this GB moving.  Still no movement on my order from what I can tell (feel free to PM me if it's shipped and I missed something).  Take care and good luck finishing this GB up!
Same for my order if you have anything specific to share - hopefully this is the last flurry?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Thu, 31 May 2018, 11:24:22
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet

Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here

Same for mine. My tracking number doesn't work in UPS either. I think you're probably right about them not being picked up yet; that was my assumption too.


Oh
My
****ing
God

I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
I really hope this means mine won't be far behind!

Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet

Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Sorry, the board was shipped using Aramex. Send me a PM if the tracking is still not working.
Hi Yuktsi, any updates on replacement polycarbonate bottoms?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 31 May 2018, 15:58:53
Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet

Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here

Same for mine. My tracking number doesn't work in UPS either. I think you're probably right about them not being picked up yet; that was my assumption too.


Oh
My
****ing
God

I think I just got notification of tracking number. I don't recognise the invoice, but I'm not really expecting anything else so this must be it...
I really hope this means mine won't be far behind!

Spoke too soon, the tracking number doesn't show up in 17 track or on UPS's main site itself, hopefully that just means it hasn't been picked up yet

Gonna refrain from holding my breath until it actually gets here
Sorry, the board was shipped using Aramex. Send me a PM if the tracking is still not working.

Hi Yuktsi thanks for checking, for some reason 17track doesn't seem to work with Aramex. I can confirm now using Aramex's site that the tracking is updating normally.

Hopefully gets here soon. Thanks for picking up the slack on this GB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Thu, 31 May 2018, 18:38:46
Can’t believe I’m finally saying this: My Exent arrived today. Premium kit, gray. No cracks in bottom, all LEDs work and no other PCB issues I could find. Finish on the gray looks great, glad they redid them. Looking forward to building it on a stream soon!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180531/dc625294b041b4f4af49542bab563522.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 01 June 2018, 05:21:06
Can’t believe I’m finally saying this: My Exent arrived today. Premium kit, gray. No cracks in bottom, all LEDs work and no other PCB issues I could find. Finish on the gray looks great, glad they redid them. Looking forward to building it on a stream soon!

Show Image
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180531/dc625294b041b4f4af49542bab563522.jpg)


Just paid my 50 bucks customs bill for this... Fingers cross that there are no cracks or PCB issues either
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 01 June 2018, 09:00:50
Just paid my 50 bucks customs bill for this... Fingers cross that there are no cracks or PCB issues either

Was that with the under-declare/gift option ticked or naw?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 01 June 2018, 13:29:43
Just paid my 50 bucks customs bill for this... Fingers cross that there are no cracks or PCB issues either

Was that with the under-declare/gift option ticked or naw?

I *thought* I did but clearly not judging by the amount charged by customs... Can't find a copy of the original form responses so I can't check for sure.

Perhaps I just forgot
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 04 June 2018, 20:30:20
Received my Premium Kit today (US-OR). Haven't gotten home to check it out but I'm very excited to! If I get a chance now that I have both the Black and Dark Grey I will upload a photo of them next to each other for anyone that is curious.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: glack23 on Mon, 04 June 2018, 20:41:17
I am curious :)

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Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 04 June 2018, 21:33:27
Got mine today too (USA)! I ordered extra stabilizers and an extra PCB, and recieved neither. Nor did I receive the stabilizers that came with the premium kit, so I'm out about $45 in total. I'm not too mad about the screw-in stabilizers since they short out PCBs. I'm a bit sad about not receiving the spare PCb I ordered though. It wasn't expensive but not cheap either. Haven't had a chance to test out the one I got.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 05 June 2018, 10:50:28
Got mine today too (USA)! I ordered extra stabilizers and an extra PCB, and recieved neither.

Lol wtf. That's so unacceptable. Stabilizers are one thing but a whole PCB???

Good lord. Imbeciles.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Tue, 05 June 2018, 16:40:36
My Exent arrived here in Ireland today, a blue one with silver alu bottom. I didn't get charged any customs fees; it was marked as a gift and the insured value was put down as €100, €40 of which was the shipping cost.

I'm like 90% sure I didn't order any extra stabs or PCB or anything, and didn't receive any either. Everything was very well packaged with lots of packing foam, and the steel foot was detached even though there is zero chance of an alu bottom cracking.

As others have said the anodising quality is amazing. The board is also very heavy, it's about 2.5kg with the alu bottom and steel foot.

I was able to get the PCB working with bootmapper with Catweewee's guide. I hope to get QMK running on the PCB using this port for ps2avrGB PCBs (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/ps2avrGB). If I succeed I'll probably make a guide if anyone else wants to do the same ;D

I haven't put the board together yet, but I put some random switches in the plate/PCB and put on some keycaps to see what it would look like.
(https://i.imgur.com/0pf546m.jpg)

I was worried at first that the board would feel and sound really inconsistent given there are only four screws holding on the plate, two at either end. However it turns out the mounts for the bottom housing actually sit slightly below the edge of the plate, so the bottom housing is in contact with the plate rather than the top housing. I guess this makes the Exent sandwich mount rather than top mount.
(https://i.imgur.com/Q15ZdiY.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/qqGEMkN.jpg)

One thing I did notice is that my plate doesn't have the little extra cut out to ensure the stab wire doesn't hit the plate for the 7u stab. In my case the stab wire just doesn't hit the plate, so it makes little difference to me anyway.
(https://i.imgur.com/cJnoh8O.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 05 June 2018, 17:02:28
Lol wtf. That's so unacceptable. Stabilizers are one thing but a whole PCB???

Good lord. Imbeciles.

A bit of a bummer to be sure, but Yuktsi contacted me and is going to work something out. So at the end of the day everything should be good as long as my one PCB works fine. Everything on it, including the microcontroller, looks soldered on well so I shouldn't have problems unless I screw it up myself lol.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Tue, 05 June 2018, 17:07:49
Went ahead and built mine. Had some issues withscrew-in stabs (which was actually not electrical shorting, but camping force, but whatever...)

In my eagerness to get it finished, I totally forgot that the included keyset only supports one bottom row option, and of course that was not the layout I built...  >:D

Regardless, I am quite enjoying it so far. Happy with the build quality and feel of the board, just wish it didn't take so long to get here. Hopefully everyone's boards makes their way to you all soon.

Also another minor nitpick, my board did not come with sufficient number of screws, in the box were only 3 out of the 5 countersunk screws for the steel foot, and one out of 5 button head screws that holds the plate to the case was not included. Probably not gonna bother chasing this up with Yuktsi, I'll pick some up from the local hardware store when I get some time.

(https://i.imgur.com/p9vQm9m.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 05 June 2018, 19:39:26
Got mine today too (USA)! I ordered extra stabilizers and an extra PCB, and recieved neither.

Lol wtf. That's so unacceptable. Stabilizers are one thing but a whole PCB???

Good lord. Imbeciles.

You are an exceedingly unpleasant presence on this forum.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Count Zero on Tue, 05 June 2018, 19:53:52
Is there a circuit diagram somewhere for the pcb ? I have almost an entire row of keys that are unresponsive, I'm attempting to trace where things go but there are a lot of vias and crammed-together traces.

The non-working keys, outlined in red:
(https://i.imgur.com/HWlt8Dg.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 05 June 2018, 20:54:16
Got mine today too (USA)! I ordered extra stabilizers and an extra PCB, and recieved neither.

Lol wtf. That's so unacceptable. Stabilizers are one thing but a whole PCB???

Good lord. Imbeciles.

You are an exceedingly unpleasant presence on this forum.

(https://i.imgur.com/3LrF66F.gif)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Tue, 05 June 2018, 23:15:01
Is there a circuit diagram somewhere for the pcb ? I have almost an entire row of keys that are unresponsive, I'm attempting to trace where things go but there are a lot of vias and crammed-together traces.

The non-working keys, outlined in red:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HWlt8Dg.jpg)


I have the same issue on my PCB just shifted one unit to the right, did you figure out what was the cause?
Anyone else know why a row of keys would be non responsive? I tried removing the stabilizer screws but that still didn't solve the problem.

Plz halp.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 06 June 2018, 02:32:40
Is there a circuit diagram somewhere for the pcb ? I have almost an entire row of keys that are unresponsive, I'm attempting to trace where things go but there are a lot of vias and crammed-together traces.

The non-working keys, outlined in red:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HWlt8Dg.jpg)


I had the same problem. I consulted with yuktsi but he provided me with the wrong pin layout.

(https://i.imgur.com/iGzgGRa.png)

It should be COL4 or pin 43, instead of the arrow pointed on the picture.

Mine wasn't soldered. After a touch of solder on that pin it worked flawlessly. I presume that some of the PCBs may have pins that aren't soldered but supposed to be.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Wed, 06 June 2018, 04:49:39
YAAAAY! GROUP SHAMING! LET'S ALL FEEL GOOD ABOUT EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE INSULTED SOMEONE ELSE!


Jerks.

I was with you in sentiment in your original comment about the missing PCB, right up until you insulted someone else.

Voice your displeasure or disapproval, but leave the insults out please. I suspect that's probably the reason for the backlash you're experiencing.

As for the missing orders, you're right of course that's not really e acceptable, no matter which way you slice it, especially since incorrect orders have been a persistent issue ever since they started shipping. There should have been plenty of time to get that sorted out and procedures changed so incorrect or missing orders no longer is a problem.

It's not what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RocketGruntJake on Wed, 06 June 2018, 10:03:03
Is there a circuit diagram somewhere for the pcb ? I have almost an entire row of keys that are unresponsive, I'm attempting to trace where things go but there are a lot of vias and crammed-together traces.

The non-working keys, outlined in red:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HWlt8Dg.jpg)


I had the same problem. I consulted with yuktsi but he provided me with the wrong pin layout.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iGzgGRa.png)


It should be COL4 or pin 43, instead of the arrow pointed on the picture.

Mine wasn't soldered. After a touch of solder on that pin it worked flawlessly. I presume that some of the PCBs may have pins that aren't soldered but supposed to be.

My Hero <3
Got the board working, will post pics later today!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 06 June 2018, 10:42:23
YAAAAY! GROUP SHAMING! LET'S ALL FEEL GOOD ABOUT EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE INSULTED SOMEONE ELSE!


Jerks.

I was with you in sentiment in your original comment about the missing PCB, right up until you insulted someone else.

Voice your displeasure or disapproval, but leave the insults out please. I suspect that's probably the reason for the backlash you're experiencing.

As for the missing orders, you're right of course that's not really e acceptable, no matter which way you slice it, especially since incorrect orders have been a persistent issue ever since they started shipping. There should have been plenty of time to get that sorted out and procedures changed so incorrect or missing orders no longer is a problem.

It's not what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.

Well, that the group buy leaders - whoever they are at this point - forgot to ship you a PCB makes them, objectively, imbeciles, particularly given their behavior since this buy began. Might be forgivable if this were one mistake on a list of, like, two, but we all know that's not the case.


As for everyone else who enjoy unprompted insulting of me so much, I just want to point out that I expressed deep concern over the state of this group buy literally (almost) a year ago, and no one listened. And then I was the first (I think?) to get a cracked PCB, and it was suggested that I broke it myself and was looking for a quick buck.

I think I have good reason to not be a big fan of the community here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 06 June 2018, 15:31:28
I think I have good reason to not be a big fan of the community here.

Then why do you continue to participate in it?

I think more telling than anything anyone has said about your posting is the fact that numerous posts of yours have been removed by moderators because your language is abusive in nature and posts largely unproductive. This community isn't a therapy forum where people encourage venting and complaining. Many of your posts, at best, are muddying up the thread with useless posting, at worst they are antagonistic and intended to be insulting. I'm not trying to imply you are the only one guilty of this, but you are one of the most vocally angry (also not saying it isn't justified, it just isn't necessary or helpful), but at some point you have to feel like it is useless and that you have better things you could be doing with that 15-30 seconds.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 06 June 2018, 15:34:12
I’ve been silent in this thread but the pictures of other people’s boards are awesome and having seen pictures of mine I can’t wait to see it and get it loaded with a fresh Miami set! The GB’s gone long but thus far seems to have been worth it!

I think I have good reason to not be a big fan of the community here.

**** off then
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gumeraser on Wed, 06 June 2018, 17:01:22
Then why do you continue to participate in it?

My guess is that he's stuck here waiting for clues on when/if his broken polycarb bottom is going to get replaced since it's not like the GB organizers are going to reach out directly about that.. Just a guess though.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 06 June 2018, 18:56:43
Then why do you continue to participate in it?

My guess is that he's stuck here waiting for clues on when/if his broken polycarb bottom is going to get replaced since it's not like the GB organizers are going to reach out directly about that.. Just a guess though.  :thumb:

Pretty much this. I pop in to see what's up, see that group buy leadership made yet another blunder, comment on it, get attacked, defend myself, wish I'd get a replacement polycarbonate bottom so I could avoid all of you for the rest of my life, rinse and repeat.

So if you want to blame someone for my continued presence, blame juahenza or whatever person is governing this GB. The sooner I get a replacement bottom - which I expect will never actually happen - the sooner I stop visiting this thread.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Count Zero on Wed, 06 June 2018, 19:00:14
Is there a circuit diagram somewhere for the pcb ? I have almost an entire row of keys that are unresponsive, I'm attempting to trace where things go but there are a lot of vias and crammed-together traces.

The non-working keys, outlined in red:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HWlt8Dg.jpg)


I had the same problem. I consulted with yuktsi but he provided me with the wrong pin layout.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iGzgGRa.png)


It should be COL4 or pin 43, instead of the arrow pointed on the picture.

Mine wasn't soldered. After a touch of solder on that pin it worked flawlessly. I presume that some of the PCBs may have pins that aren't soldered but supposed to be.

My Hero <3
Got the board working, will post pics later today!

Can confirm. I just tested every single set of pads with a tweezers after soldering pin 43 on the microcontroller and my PCB is now fully operational. Thanks Cerasis!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Wed, 06 June 2018, 19:11:43
YAAAAY! GROUP SHAMING! LET'S ALL FEEL GOOD ABOUT EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE INSULTED SOMEONE ELSE!


Jerks.

I was with you in sentiment in your original comment about the missing PCB, right up until you insulted someone else.

Voice your displeasure or disapproval, but leave the insults out please. I suspect that's probably the reason for the backlash you're experiencing.

As for the missing orders, you're right of course that's not really e acceptable, no matter which way you slice it, especially since incorrect orders have been a persistent issue ever since they started shipping. There should have been plenty of time to get that sorted out and procedures changed so incorrect or missing orders no longer is a problem.

It's not what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.

Well, that the group buy leaders - whoever they are at this point - forgot to ship you a PCB makes them, objectively, imbeciles, particularly given their behavior since this buy began. Might be forgivable if this were one mistake on a list of, like, two, but we all know that's not the case.


As for everyone else who enjoy unprompted insulting of me so much, I just want to point out that I expressed deep concern over the state of this group buy literally (almost) a year ago, and no one listened. And then I was the first (I think?) to get a cracked PCB, and it was suggested that I broke it myself and was looking for a quick buck.

I think I have good reason to not be a big fan of the community here.

Dude, like how can you not see the hypocrisy here? You went from insulting people, to crying and calling people jerks for insulting yourself?

Also I'm not sure you know the meaning of 'objectively'? Have you ever forgotten something? Assuming yes, by your logic I guess you're an imbecile too then?

I get it, you have some legitimate complaints/issues, we all do, but why do you have to go about things in such a way? It doesn't help or achieve anything. The dude with the missing pcb already says yuktsi has arranged to sort it out with him. Also poor yuktsi is shipping out all these boards himself at I dread to think what cost to himself. I don't know the numbers but I would imagine the vast majority of us don't even have our boards yet, so at least you have yours! I understand the cracked poly sucks but you're going to have to be patient with it I'm afraid. I wouldn't be surprised if you are able to get another eventually as I believe a large number of extras were made and they are going to be of no use to anybody sat on a factory floor. As others have said, by all means voice concerns/issues but bringing all the bad vibes is counter productive and doesn't help anybody, including yourself.

If you hate it and wish to steer clear of it as much as you say, why comment?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 06 June 2018, 20:15:52
Then why do you continue to participate in it?

My guess is that he's stuck here waiting for clues on when/if his broken polycarb bottom is going to get replaced since it's not like the GB organizers are going to reach out directly about that.. Just a guess though.  :thumb:

He can wait silently like an adult though, not lash out like a child. I think that's really all anyone is saying.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 06 June 2018, 21:02:17
Then why do you continue to participate in it?

My guess is that he's stuck here waiting for clues on when/if his broken polycarb bottom is going to get replaced since it's not like the GB organizers are going to reach out directly about that.. Just a guess though.  :thumb:

He can wait silently like an adult though, not lash out like a child. I think that's really all anyone is saying.


Dude lol I called them imbeciles. How in the world is that lashing out like a child? Honestly you people aggravate me even more than the people leading the group buys half the time.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Lndefinite on Wed, 06 June 2018, 22:40:24
Went ahead and built mine. Had some issues withscrew-in stabs (which was actually not electrical shorting, but camping force, but whatever...)

In my eagerness to get it finished, I totally forgot that the included keyset only supports one bottom row option, and of course that was not the layout I built...  >:D

Regardless, I am quite enjoying it so far. Happy with the build quality and feel of the board, just wish it didn't take so long to get here. Hopefully everyone's boards makes their way to you all soon.

Also another minor nitpick, my board did not come with sufficient number of screws, in the box were only 3 out of the 5 countersunk screws for the steel foot, and one out of 5 button head screws that holds the plate to the case was not included. Probably not gonna bother chasing this up with Yuktsi, I'll pick some up from the local hardware store when I get some time.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/p9vQm9m.jpg)


That is a beautiful board. Blue ISO accent enter feels good man.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Bael_Zharon on Wed, 06 June 2018, 23:36:41
Went ahead and built mine. Had some issues withscrew-in stabs (which was actually not electrical shorting, but camping force, but whatever...)

In my eagerness to get it finished, I totally forgot that the included keyset only supports one bottom row option, and of course that was not the layout I built...  >:D

Regardless, I am quite enjoying it so far. Happy with the build quality and feel of the board, just wish it didn't take so long to get here. Hopefully everyone's boards makes their way to you all soon.

Also another minor nitpick, my board did not come with sufficient number of screws, in the box were only 3 out of the 5 countersunk screws for the steel foot, and one out of 5 button head screws that holds the plate to the case was not included. Probably not gonna bother chasing this up with Yuktsi, I'll pick some up from the local hardware store when I get some time.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/p9vQm9m.jpg)


What's the bandwidth widget thing in your dock?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: godlikekitten on Wed, 06 June 2018, 23:37:22
So I see I can still access the google form are there extras for order?  If not is there plans on a R2 in the somewhat not-so-far-away future?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 07 June 2018, 03:07:45
Is there a circuit diagram somewhere for the pcb ? I have almost an entire row of keys that are unresponsive, I'm attempting to trace where things go but there are a lot of vias and crammed-together traces.

The non-working keys, outlined in red:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HWlt8Dg.jpg)


I had the same problem. I consulted with yuktsi but he provided me with the wrong pin layout.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/iGzgGRa.png)


It should be COL4 or pin 43, instead of the arrow pointed on the picture.

Mine wasn't soldered. After a touch of solder on that pin it worked flawlessly. I presume that some of the PCBs may have pins that aren't soldered but supposed to be.

My Hero <3
Got the board working, will post pics later today!

Can confirm. I just tested every single set of pads with a tweezers after soldering pin 43 on the microcontroller and my PCB is now fully operational. Thanks Cerasis!

Hmm so this has been a recurring issue indeed. Someone who was assembling these must have skipped a pin they shouldn't have. I'm glad its settled  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 07 June 2018, 06:41:29
So I see I can still access the google form are there extras for order?  If not is there plans on a R2 in the somewhat not-so-far-away future?

The GB leader forgot to shut down the form; orders are no longer being taken. The original plan was to have extras available at Originative, so once everyone has their board and replacement parts you might be able to buy one there. With all of the trouble this GB had had I'm not sure if that's still the plan though.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:01:02
Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:
Code: [Select]
05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AM Item delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AM Item arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AM Item en route to IRELAND MYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PM Consignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AM Consignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PM Consignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PM Item processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PM Item posted over the counter Puchong PO

(https://i.imgur.com/stC1Gu5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/X2SGzr7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oTyuDyB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/s5x8BBg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZKarWLC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/m9zSST9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wPSFpkP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zEhavXZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TM2A2QY.jpg)
You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.

Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).

Overall pretty happy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:04:02
Went ahead and built mine. Had some issues withscrew-in stabs (which was actually not electrical shorting, but camping force, but whatever...)

In my eagerness to get it finished, I totally forgot that the included keyset only supports one bottom row option, and of course that was not the layout I built...  >:D

Regardless, I am quite enjoying it so far. Happy with the build quality and feel of the board, just wish it didn't take so long to get here. Hopefully everyone's boards makes their way to you all soon.

Also another minor nitpick, my board did not come with sufficient number of screws, in the box were only 3 out of the 5 countersunk screws for the steel foot, and one out of 5 button head screws that holds the plate to the case was not included. Probably not gonna bother chasing this up with Yuktsi, I'll pick some up from the local hardware store when I get some time.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/p9vQm9m.jpg)


What's the bandwidth widget thing in your dock?

Good eye! It's DU Meter. It's a paid software but I'm sure there are free alternatives out there.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:24:37
Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:
Code: [Select]
05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AM Item delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AM Item arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AM Item en route to IRELAND MYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PM Consignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AM Consignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PM Consignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PM Item processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PM Item posted over the counter Puchong PO

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/stC1Gu5.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/X2SGzr7.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oTyuDyB.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/s5x8BBg.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ZKarWLC.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/m9zSST9.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/wPSFpkP.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zEhavXZ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TM2A2QY.jpg)

You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.

Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).

Overall pretty happy.

Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?
(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)

Congrat and thank you for reply
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Thu, 07 June 2018, 11:00:35
Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:
Code: [Select]
05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AM Item delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AM Item arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AM Item en route to IRELAND MYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PM Consignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AM Consignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PM Consignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PM Item processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PM Item posted over the counter Puchong PO

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/stC1Gu5.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/X2SGzr7.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oTyuDyB.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/s5x8BBg.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ZKarWLC.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/m9zSST9.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/wPSFpkP.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zEhavXZ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TM2A2QY.jpg)

You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.

Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).

Overall pretty happy.

Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)


Congrat and thank you for reply


A bit clearer pic i hope

(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)


I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Thu, 07 June 2018, 11:16:34
Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:
Code: [Select]
05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AM Item delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AM Item arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AM Item en route to IRELAND MYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PM Consignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AM Consignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PM Consignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PM Item processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PM Item posted over the counter Puchong PO

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/stC1Gu5.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/X2SGzr7.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oTyuDyB.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/s5x8BBg.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ZKarWLC.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/m9zSST9.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/wPSFpkP.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zEhavXZ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TM2A2QY.jpg)

You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.

Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).

Overall pretty happy.

Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)


Congrat and thank you for reply


A bit clearer pic i hope

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)



I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.

If i remember correctly, only the upper left pin needs soldering. That's for the z row.

Edit: Board is beautiful. That color combo.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 07 June 2018, 11:55:27
Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)


Congrat and thank you for reply


A bit clearer pic i hope

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)



I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.

If i remember correctly, only the upper left pin needs soldering. That's for the z row.

Edit: Board is beautiful. That color combo.  :thumb:

I was thinking the same thing, "only the upper left pin needs soldering". According to the diagram that was posted a few comments above those middle pins don't do anything, so they may not need soldering.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wtzll on Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:59:41
Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)


Congrat and thank you for reply


A bit clearer pic i hope

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)



I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.

If i remember correctly, only the upper left pin needs soldering. That's for the z row.

Edit: Board is beautiful. That color combo.  :thumb:

I was thinking the same thing, "only the upper left pin needs soldering". According to the diagram that was posted a few comments above those middle pins don't do anything, so they may not need soldering.

****, that is great then. Less things to go wrong.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Thu, 07 June 2018, 16:53:44
Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:
Code: [Select]
05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AM Item delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AM Item arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AM Item en route to IRELAND MYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PM Consignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AM Consignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PM Consignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PM Item processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PM Item posted over the counter Puchong PO

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/stC1Gu5.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/X2SGzr7.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oTyuDyB.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/s5x8BBg.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ZKarWLC.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/m9zSST9.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/wPSFpkP.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zEhavXZ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TM2A2QY.jpg)

You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.

Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).

Overall pretty happy.

Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)


Congrat and thank you for reply


A bit clearer pic i hope

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)



I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.

Nice pic.  I wonder if I could be having a similar problem.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 07 June 2018, 19:42:41
Nice pic.  I wonder if I could be having a similar problem.

What problem are you having? I just noticed my micro controller is missing that exact same pin. I've only tested about 1/4 of the board but what I tested was good.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 07 June 2018, 19:57:50
I will check mine tonight when I finally go pick it up from where I had it shipped. I suspect they were unused pins that were intentionally left unsoldered
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 07 June 2018, 20:06:48
I will check mine tonight when I finally go pick it up from where I had it shipped. I suspect they were unused pins that were intentionally left unsoldered

Even unused they should be soldered.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 07 June 2018, 20:07:39
Mine arrived today.  Will unbox and post pics soon.  Thanks so much Yuktsi!   :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Fri, 08 June 2018, 03:14:41
Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:
Code: [Select]
05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AM Item delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AM Item arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AM Item en route to IRELAND MYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PM Consignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AM Consignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PM Consignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PM Item processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PM Item posted over the counter Puchong PO

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/stC1Gu5.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/X2SGzr7.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/oTyuDyB.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/s5x8BBg.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ZKarWLC.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/m9zSST9.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/wPSFpkP.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zEhavXZ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TM2A2QY.jpg)

You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.

Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).

Overall pretty happy.

Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8uCV43x.jpg)


Congrat and thank you for reply


A bit clearer pic i hope

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)



I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.
Do test the PCB first before reflowing the pins.
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 08 June 2018, 13:33:35
So I've never used Bootmapper before and I'm kinda lost on what I'm doing. I'm having some issues with my PCB: three or four of the five right-hand keys aren't working, and I'm trying to rule out whether it's the keymap or something wrong with my PCB. Is there an easy way to tell?

My PCB came with a keymap on it already. With my PCB connected, when I hit "Download" I get 15 rows and 6 columns. I forgot to screenshot the map I have and I'm currently at work, so sorry I can't provide it. If it helps my final keymap is going to be as shown below. Please excuse the weird coloring, I was attempting to replicate Nantucket Selectric. Also excuse the Reset key on the function layer; I guess I'm too used to QMK lol.

(https://i.imgur.com/USotsu7.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Fri, 08 June 2018, 16:18:04
had the pleasure of building one of these recently, was great to see the board in person, building process was a breeze and luckily the one i had was flawless and now on its way to its owner

cant wait to get mine now, appreciate the continued efforts of all involved

<3
Title: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 08 June 2018, 17:25:58
Solved the problem. I really should have tried Toggle Bootmapper a lot sooner lol. Way easier than the guessing game I have with QMK. Anyway, turns out I was ignoring the mappings of Col 6 and Col 7. Here's what I was trying to go for:

(https://i.imgur.com/0YoUFmt.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Sat, 09 June 2018, 12:16:11
Finally got mine! This thing looks snazzy. Packing worked well, and nothing was damanged in shipment. No stabs, but that's no surprise.

Now that I've got this thing, I'll be starting another thread on the ortho plate and PCB package, if anyone is still interested in that. I know I am! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180609/718760a1a9feafe34b7d31d965a22222.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180609/e747d781b1fd3718737dc28f763b1c84.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Sat, 09 June 2018, 17:22:57
Finally got mine! This thing looks snazzy. Packing worked well, and nothing was damanged in shipment. No stabs, but that's no surprise.

Now that I've got this thing, I'll be starting another thread on the ortho plate and PCB package, if anyone is still interested in that. I know I am!
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I spy with my little eye a Rama M4a in the corner :)

And yes still interested in the ortho PCB  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Sun, 10 June 2018, 17:55:40
Finally got mine! This thing looks snazzy. Packing worked well, and nothing was damanged in shipment. No stabs, but that's no surprise.

Now that I've got this thing, I'll be starting another thread on the ortho plate and PCB package, if anyone is still interested in that. I know I am!
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I spy with my little eye a Rama M4a in the corner :)

And yes still interested in the ortho PCB  :thumb:

Me as well. Would love to see this thing with an orto layout.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Sun, 10 June 2018, 18:28:23
I would love to see mine at all.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Mon, 11 June 2018, 09:54:24
I got a message from yuktsi and he said that 70% of the orders have been shipped so far the last ones (including mine) will be shipped soon! :)

After all the pretty pictures floating around here, I can’t wait to assemble mine. I guess I will order some stabs from Zeal, as they seem to be missing for everyone. Unluckily I ordered both the snap-in AND the screw in stabs, so it will be twice the loss. I am sure that the board will be worth it though. I’m getting excited!


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: U47 on Mon, 11 June 2018, 14:54:33
Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects

I'd love to get on-board an ortho plate/pcb train. Are you looking for help or partners?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Saifalhaj on Tue, 12 June 2018, 01:13:45
Still nothing here, not a notification,email or any other form of communication in regards to my premium order.

Id love an update.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: japanitrat on Tue, 12 June 2018, 01:55:31
Still nothing here, not a notification,email or any other form of communication in regards to my premium order.

Id love an update.

Same here. And I have invoice no. 005 -.-
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Tue, 12 June 2018, 12:12:18
Quick update: Kit had everything in it except for stabs and some screws.  The PCB was loosely packed in the case, so it was rattling around while being shipped.  I tested the PCB and all keys work, thank goodness.  The poly plate was in good shape.  One of the LEDs on the PCB is an off-color, but it works.

Even though the board wasn't shipped with all the screws (4 for plate instead of 5, 3 for bar instead of 5) and no stabs (I now have to wait to build this until my order for stabs comes in), the board works and I am generally happy with the quality.  The anodization is good.  The black top and bottom aluminum pieces fit together very well.

The black is a very finely anodized matte black.  There were some spots (corners of etched letters) where the anodization is flecking, but not a big deal.

Thanks for finishing this group buy off Yuktsi.  I would rather have all these ship out and finish than getting stabs and all screws.

I'll post pics once I've got the board built.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 12 June 2018, 15:18:54
Ok, finally got around to getting a pic of the dark grey and black next to each other. In person I feel like the dark grey reads much darker than it looks in person and at a glance I wouldn’t be able to tell them apart, but lit up with a bright cool tone on my bench the difference seems much greater. No stabs, haven’t counted screws, but annodization is flawlessand polycarb is in perfect condition. Haven’t tested the PCB’s yet either.

I do gotta say though after the M65-A’s polished brass plate the matte brass plate on this looks kindof bland. I almost like the silver more.

Edit: One PCB is perfect, one has issues.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Wed, 13 June 2018, 18:16:32
Ok, finally got around to getting a pic of the dark grey and black next to each other. In person I feel like the dark grey reads much darker than it looks in person and at a glance I wouldn’t be able to tell them apart, but lit up with a bright cool tone on my bench the difference seems much greater. No stabs, haven’t counted screws, but annodization is flawlessand polycarb is in perfect condition. Haven’t tested the PCB’s yet either.

I do gotta say though after the M65-A’s polished brass plate the matte brass plate on this looks kindof bland. I almost like the silver more.

Edit: One PCB is perfect, one has issues.

Are those annodization splotches, or something else on the top housing? (left hand side most noticeable)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 13 June 2018, 18:24:26

Are those annodization splotches, or something else on the top housing? (left hand side most noticeable)

No, the anodization is some of the best I have seen
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Wed, 13 June 2018, 18:25:12
Ok, finally got around to getting a pic of the dark grey and black next to each other. In person I feel like the dark grey reads much darker than it looks in person and at a glance I wouldn’t be able to tell them apart, but lit up with a bright cool tone on my bench the difference seems much greater. No stabs, haven’t counted screws, but annodization is flawlessand polycarb is in perfect condition. Haven’t tested the PCB’s yet either.

I do gotta say though after the M65-A’s polished brass plate the matte brass plate on this looks kindof bland. I almost like the silver more.

Edit: One PCB is perfect, one has issues.

Are those annodization splotches, or something else on the top housing? (left hand side most noticeable)

Those look like handprints to me. I have the gray and it's not splotchy as far as I can see but it picks up finger and handprints pretty horribly.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 13 June 2018, 18:39:43
Those look like handprints to me.

Yeah, just my oily hands
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Wed, 13 June 2018, 18:43:47
Those look like handprints to me.

Yeah, just my oily hands

cool cool, thought maybe that was it
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 13 June 2018, 19:04:03
cool cool, thought maybe that was it

It looks a lot more visible in the photo than it actually is, so much so that I had to double check to make sure it wasn't anodization issues. Probably couldn't hurt to hit it with some rubbing alcohol
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: duynguyenle on Thu, 14 June 2018, 12:34:54
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UnfoldedHorribleBengaltiger-size_restricted.gif)
https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/UnfoldedHorribleBengaltiger (https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/UnfoldedHorribleBengaltiger)

Took this gif the other day. Pretty skookum
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: wongie on Thu, 14 June 2018, 13:22:24
It appears there's still some boards being sent out that didn't have their LEDs reflowed. One my two boards had all but one nonfunctional upon arrival, one of LEDs on the bottom left even fell off, lol. The second board is in the complete opposite state, all LEDs except one working. Guess I'll have a bit of a busier weekend than I originally planned.

(https://i.imgur.com/ivWtLqv.jpeg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Moderate on Fri, 15 June 2018, 13:10:15
Finally got some PCB mount stabs to arrive and I've just soldered all my switches in. As it turns out, I'm missing a column which, admittedly, I can't say isn't my fault.

The column in question includes the 4, R, F and C keys.

Is there a guide in here for fixing this or can someone suggest how to fix this? Cheers guys :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gutsack on Fri, 15 June 2018, 13:33:52
Is there a guide in here for fixing this or can someone suggest how to fix this? Cheers guys :)

See this:

Got around taking a few pics of the kit i got a few days ago.
Just some time frames on delivery:
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05 Jun 2018, 08:47:00 AMItem delivered to VP IRELAND
04 Jun 2018, 09:36:00 AMItem arrived at IRELAND
30 May 2018, 12:27:46 AMItem en route to IRELANDMYKULA
29 May 2018, 10:26:00 PMConsignment Arrived MYKULA
27 May 2018, 01:28:59 AMConsignment received and processed from posting at Post Offices Pos Laju Transit Office
26 May 2018, 03:36:55 PMConsignment dispatch out from Transit Office PosLaju Parcel Hub
26 May 2018, 02:19:15 PMItem processed PosLaju Parcel Hub
25 May 2018, 03:06:25 PMItem posted over the counter Puchong PO

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You can see the pin that needs re-flowing.

Getting an ortholinear plate and pcb manufactured so dont really care for any pcb defects (the usb plug is soldered slightly crooked, would need to re-flow pins, etc..).

Overall pretty happy.

Could you point out which pin needs re-flowing? Or all of it?
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Congrat and thank you for reply


A bit clearer pic i hope

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I will probably end up re-flowing the whole thing if i butcher those pins.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Moderate on Fri, 15 June 2018, 14:29:33
Is there a guide in here for fixing this or can someone suggest how to fix this? Cheers guys :)

See this:


Oh, no kidding it was only a page or two back. Thanks. Looking at my board it looks like "COL04" may require reflowing but going by the bootmapper it's "ROW11" that's dead. Its pin appears fine, buuut...

Guess I'll have to phone a friend on this one. I've got a mate with far more experience and better equipment for soldering circuit boards. Thanks again, though.

Edit:
Worked out a fix. After some testing with a multimeter and guidance from that friend more experienced with electronics, we determined that the problem was a break somewhere in the trace between the controller pin and the start of the switch row. Got him to give it a look over and the pin (24 for row 11) was soldered fine. He ended up patching in a wire between the pin and switch to get it functioning again.

Pic here of the fix: https://imgur.com/cjgF8HE

Which worked overnight but after leaving the keyboard alone for several hours and coming back, row 11 is non-functioning again. Just tested with a multimeter and everything seems in order, the wire is still joined.. I have no idea what's gone wrong this time. More troubleshooting, I guess!

Edit 2:

Just plugged it back in after testing with the multimeter and now row 11 is constantly active. Just opened notepad and was greeted with spam of "4rfc" over and over.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 18 June 2018, 12:53:19
Edit 2:

Just plugged it back in after testing with the multimeter and now row 11 is constantly active. Just opened notepad and was greeted with spam of "4rfc" over and over.

Congrats on the fix! Hope that works well for you longterm. I'd be screwed if I had to do something like that. I have no knowledge or experience with wiring and tracing routes.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baldgye on Mon, 18 June 2018, 13:02:05
Got my board!!

Huge thanks to Bunnylake for building this ****ing wonderful thing for me and for helping make sure the Miami keyset never died all those years ago!

(https://i.imgur.com/q1tE2Ui.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 18 June 2018, 13:14:53
Got my board!!

Holy crap this looks good!!!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Moderate on Tue, 19 June 2018, 00:05:03
Edit 2:

Just plugged it back in after testing with the multimeter and now row 11 is constantly active. Just opened notepad and was greeted with spam of "4rfc" over and over.

Congrats on the fix! Hope that works well for you longterm. I'd be screwed if I had to do something like that. I have no knowledge or experience with wiring and tracing routes.

Hahah thanks! I have to thank my friend for helping me out with that one though.

Unfortunately the fix is no longer working, I've checked the paths with the multimeter and it's all good, but for some reason the row is dead again because the controller appears to be saying they're constantly being actuated. I've messaged yuktsi about buying another PCB because this is beyond me now hahah. Doing patch fixes like this shouldn't be necessary in the first place  :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Wed, 20 June 2018, 11:06:21
I've messaged yuktsi about buying another PCB because this is beyond me now hahah. Doing patch fixes like this shouldn't be necessary in the first place  :(

Hopefully you can get your hands on another one. It's hard getting an extra PCB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Count Zero on Sun, 24 June 2018, 18:25:47
I got more problems guys, this time with the switch LED's. I have two switches that won't light up. I'm using an led that I have gotten to light up using other contacts on the PCB, and I've tried it in reverse in case it's a polarity thing. It looks like there are a couple pads missing a little component, could that be the cause of my issues?

Non-working positions outlined in red:
(https://i.imgur.com/r0JsYI6.jpg)

Left side close-up:
(https://i.imgur.com/02QBnWH.jpg)

Right side close-up:
(https://i.imgur.com/bSD4wso.jpg)

[edit] is the group buy thread the appropriate place for technical questions or should I be taking this elsewhere?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: demorior on Sun, 24 June 2018, 22:54:19
Anyone interested in buying my Exent?
Black case, Cracked poly bottom and questionable PCB. Would be willing to let it go for a pretty low price.
Just sick of waiting on Juahenza and Yuktsi. Yuktsi won't even answer my PMs and I'm not going to wait another year
to have a fully functioning keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 25 June 2018, 12:07:13
I got more problems guys, this time with the switch LED's...

It's interesting that both of them are right next to one of the RGB lights. Hopefully someone can help you; I've had terrible luck with in-switch LEDs in the past so I don't even try to use them anymore.

Anyone interested in buying my Exent? Black case, Cracked poly bottom and questionable PCB...

Have you tried r/mechmarket? People tend to have some good luck over there. I know the Reddit community in general didn't care much for the bezel but there were plenty of people who still liked it.

If it's just the PCB you're worried about, there's someone around here who is interested in making an ortholinear PCB and plate for the Exent. Not sure it'll ever happen, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 25 June 2018, 12:18:52
Anyone interested in buying my Exent?
Black case, Cracked poly bottom and questionable PCB. Would be willing to let it go for a pretty low price.
Just sick of waiting on Juahenza and Yuktsi. Yuktsi won't even answer my PMs and I'm not going to wait another year
to have a fully functioning keyboard.

PM'd
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Mon, 25 June 2018, 12:32:43
Considering this situation, getting the replacement of my cracked PC bottom seems almost impossible.
So, I'm looking for an aluminum bottom. If someone has an extra one, PM me please.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Mon, 25 June 2018, 15:32:07
Anyone at waiting on theirs? Haven't heard a peep about my premium kit.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: japanitrat on Mon, 25 June 2018, 16:33:45
Anyone at waiting on theirs? Haven't heard a peep about my premium kit.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Same here ..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Mon, 25 June 2018, 17:02:55
Anyone at waiting on theirs? Haven't heard a peep about my premium kit.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Hi friend! I'm in Toronto still waiting for my premium with two bases. I reached out to Yuktsi a few weeks ago on here, no response.

Still hopeful.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Katanadog on Mon, 25 June 2018, 21:19:17
Waiting on a black basic with alu bottom.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Katanadog on Mon, 25 June 2018, 21:19:38
No reply from Yuktsi either.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: nop_coder on Mon, 25 June 2018, 23:14:42
Anyone at waiting on theirs? Haven't heard a peep about my premium kit.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Same here
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Tue, 26 June 2018, 14:08:23
Anyone at waiting on theirs? Haven't heard a peep about my premium kit.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Same. Haven't gotten any response from yuktsi since March 1st.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Count Zero on Wed, 27 June 2018, 17:49:39
Got a request for anyone with a pcb in easy reach. I'm pretty sure my pcb is missing three resistors. In the first picture I've outlined where on the pcb they seem to be missing from, the second picture is a closeup of where one isn't. If your pcb does have a resistor here and you can tell me what it's value is I will be eternally grateful.

(https://i.imgur.com/foDaKpL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/d2GgbMp.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Wed, 27 June 2018, 17:59:19
Got a request for anyone with a pcb in easy reach. I'm pretty sure my pcb is missing three resistors. In the first picture I've outlined where on the pcb they seem to be missing from, the second picture is a closeup of where one isn't. If your pcb does have a resistor here and you can tell me what it's value is I will be eternally grateful.

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Your close up picture looks like my board does.  I don't see transistors/resistors on those pads...  Which is weird.   I've got it in a fairly functioning state, so I imagine this is by design. 

Unfortunately, I can't get the damn thing to load into bootload mode after I initially flashed the controller.  Does anyone know which pads to use to throw this into bootload mode?

There were some talks about the ICSP01 pads being shorted to force into bootloader.  Anyone have any success with that?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 28 June 2018, 11:30:23
My build at work:

(https://i.imgur.com/QLOO8xr.jpg)

Still can't get the damn thing back into bootloader mode.  Anyone know which pads to short?  Left CTRL stopped working after I flashed it.  :confused:

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 28 June 2018, 13:02:01
My build at work:

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Still can't get the damn thing back into bootloader mode.  Anyone know which pads to short?  Left CTRL stopped working after I flashed it.  :confused:

Thanks!

I just posted this on reddit.  Top comment: "I really want a compact keyboard, but I also want to do away with the space-saving benefits of having a compact keyboard."

lol
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Thu, 28 June 2018, 13:36:08
Got a request for anyone with a pcb in easy reach. I'm pretty sure my pcb is missing three resistors. In the first picture I've outlined where on the pcb they seem to be missing from, the second picture is a closeup of where one isn't. If your pcb does have a resistor here and you can tell me what it's value is I will be eternally grateful.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/foDaKpL.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/d2GgbMp.jpg)


Your close up picture looks like my board does.  I don't see transistors/resistors on those pads...  Which is weird.   I've got it in a fairly functioning state, so I imagine this is by design. 

Unfortunately, I can't get the damn thing to load into bootload mode after I initially flashed the controller.  Does anyone know which pads to use to throw this into bootload mode?

There were some talks about the ICSP01 pads being shorted to force into bootloader.  Anyone have any success with that?

Hi All!

Quick update: I was able to get the EXENT accessible in the bootmapper client.  Oddly enough, the bootmapper client would not recognize the HID device until I docked my laptop and connected to the dock rather than directly to the laptop.

If anyone needs help going forward, I'm happy to.  I'll check back periodically.  Or PM me!  :thumb:

Thanks,

MaNiFeX
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Mon, 02 July 2018, 12:37:47
NE tracking avail?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Mon, 02 July 2018, 18:30:02
 :eek: that looks good my dude!
My build at work:

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Forgot to check in on this thread and say my premium kit showed up as well (no tracking, just happy surprise), everything except for stabs included. Pretty sure I already ordered some screw-in stabs anyway, if not they're going on the list. As far as I can tell from my 60 second check over, everything is kosher, hopefully the PCB works. In any case, YUUUUUUGE thank you to yuktsi for getting this thing in my hands.

(https://i.imgur.com/wP72sov.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Abp4UZy.jpg)

Anyone heard from the actual GB runner since January?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Tue, 03 July 2018, 22:59:54
longshot but, anyone want to trade my perfect polycarb bottom for an ALU one?
not sure if there will be any extras for sale.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kennyk64 on Wed, 04 July 2018, 02:15:26
Anyone interested in a premium kit (grey)? I have paid $355 and willing to let go at $300.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tom88jerry on Wed, 04 July 2018, 03:25:02
Anyone interested in a premium kit (grey)? I have paid $355 and willing to let go at $300.

Pm'd
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yonghf on Wed, 04 July 2018, 04:19:17
Anyone interested in a premium kit (grey)? I have paid $355 and willing to let go at $300.

PM'ing
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: neon_tom on Wed, 04 July 2018, 07:36:35
I haven’t really been keeping up with this thread but I’m going to assume there’s been no word on replacements for cracked bottoms?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: mrsalogo on Wed, 04 July 2018, 11:04:13
If any one has a sliver kit that they are wanting to sell please let me know. I want one of these beautiful keyboards real bad...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: monkeyplusplus on Thu, 05 July 2018, 14:42:43
Hey friends, I just posted a separate thread for the ortho PCB and plate, now that most of us have received our Exents!

Please head over and comment if you'd like to be included in the discussion :)

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96487.0
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Thu, 05 July 2018, 15:00:04
I haven’t really been keeping up with this thread but I’m going to assume there’s been no word on replacements for cracked bottoms?

I sent them PM several times, but didn’t get any answers at all.
It seems that getting the replacement is impossible.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 05 July 2018, 15:09:19
I haven’t really been keeping up with this thread but I’m going to assume there’s been no word on replacements for cracked bottoms?

No word yet. Shipping has also not concluded.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: meniscus- on Sat, 07 July 2018, 14:35:06
Can most of the broken PCBs be easily fixed? Just reflowing or it is more severe than that?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 07 July 2018, 17:11:13
Can most of the broken PCBs be easily fixed? Just reflowing or it is more severe than that?

Some of it is that simple but a lot of the issues require adding solder to some of the pins on the microcontroller. If you aren't careful you can accidentally bridge connections between pins and make a huge mess.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: meniscus- on Sat, 07 July 2018, 19:18:36
Can most of the broken PCBs be easily fixed? Just reflowing or it is more severe than that?

Some of it is that simple but a lot of the issues require adding solder to some of the pins on the microcontroller. If you aren't careful you can accidentally bridge connections between pins and make a huge mess.

Yikes. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Velvet_Crowe on Sat, 07 July 2018, 22:29:56
looking for a black or silver kit if anyone wants to sell theirs
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: meniscus- on Sat, 07 July 2018, 22:37:52
Feel free to delete this if inappropriate.

Looking for a gray or silver kit with polycarbonate bottom.

I really love the Exent but sadly got into this hobby after the GB ended.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Sat, 07 July 2018, 23:57:34
I haven’t really been keeping up with this thread but I’m going to assume there’s been no word on replacements for cracked bottoms?

No word yet. Shipping has also not concluded.

I think it's best  to let the shipping complete before making assumptions about replacements.  Yuktsi said after all kits shipped, replacements will be sent out.  So far he has delivered on everything, so I'm sure it's going to happen.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Fiora_Bot on Mon, 09 July 2018, 19:59:26
Is the google doc still the correct place to fill out information regarding cracked bottoms?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Munnybear on Mon, 09 July 2018, 20:55:57
I'm becoming really worried now that everyone seems to have received their kit. Is there kits been sent out on a regular basis?

I've not received any updates and no one is responding to my emails either...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 09 July 2018, 22:01:57
I'm becoming really worried now that everyone seems to have received their kit. Is there kits been sent out on a regular basis?

I've not received any updates and no one is responding to my emails either...

Kits are still being sent. There haven't been any updates and very few people are getting emailed back. Currently it seems everyone is getting their kits. Expectation is that issue will be addressed once shipping has finished.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Munnybear on Mon, 09 July 2018, 22:07:46
appreciate the info!

I would say fingers crossed... but truth is they are already entangled like romeo and juliet.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: meniscus- on Mon, 09 July 2018, 22:12:12
but truth is they are already entangled like romeo and juliet.

"These violent delights have violent ends / And in their triumph die, like fire and powder /  Which as they kiss consume."
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Katanadog on Tue, 10 July 2018, 10:32:57
 Yuktsi Replied to me on the 4th with tracking info and told me that slowly but surely batches of keyboards are going out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Phinnegan on Tue, 10 July 2018, 17:53:53
Yuktsi Replied to me on the 4th with tracking info and told me that slowly but surely batches of keyboards are going out.

Good deal, waiting on a premium silver kit here - but haven't bothered posting or PMing, figure it'll happen one of these months.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Wed, 11 July 2018, 15:48:25
Yuktsi Replied to me on the 4th with tracking info and told me that slowly but surely batches of keyboards are going out.

I got some tracking info as well, but haven't been able to track it. It says "Aramex/UPS," but the aramex.com site doesn't seem to know it exists.

Anyone know if that's typical or if I'm using the wrong site?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 11 July 2018, 17:04:24
Yuktsi Replied to me on the 4th with tracking info and told me that slowly but surely batches of keyboards are going out.

I got some tracking info as well, but haven't been able to track it. It says "Aramex/UPS," but the aramex.com site doesn't seem to know it exists.

Anyone know if that's typical or if I'm using the wrong site?

That's been pretty common. Nothing to worry about
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Wed, 11 July 2018, 21:19:43
Miracles do happen.

(http://i.imgur.com/Suh2IZT.jpg)

Thanks again yuktsi and weewee <3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 12 July 2018, 02:36:19
Miracles do happen.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Suh2IZT.jpg)


Thanks again yuktsi and weewee <3
My lawd

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: zurikade on Fri, 13 July 2018, 17:32:11
I'd love to know if anyone else in Canada has received a unit yet. I'm in Toronto waiting for a Premium kit with an extra base. No response from Yuktsi from PM over a month ago. Disappointing, still hopeful, but well BLAH.

<3
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: si on Mon, 16 July 2018, 18:08:13
Anyone noticed that they ****ed up on the split spacebar keys?
https://i.imgur.com/iqTRpO5.jpg


The original render shows a space bar kit without any legends but the actual set comes labeled with "shift". I kinda wanted mine without labels. not a big deal since i already have a decent split spacebars kit ready but this wasn't what was advertised.  Asides from that i still haven't received my keyboard. Hopefully i get mine soon and it's just slow because premium kits are being shipped last.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Pwner on Mon, 16 July 2018, 18:28:15
Anyone noticed that they ****ed up on the split spacebar keys?
https://i.imgur.com/iqTRpO5.jpg


The original render shows a space bar kit without any legends but the actual set comes labeled with "shift". I kinda wanted mine without labels. not a big deal since i already have a decent split spacebars kit ready but this wasn't what was advertised.  Asides from that i still haven't received my keyboard. Hopefully i get mine soon and it's just slow because premium kits are being shipped last.

I can assure you those blanks are included, they are just hidden behind the main kit.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Tue, 17 July 2018, 00:45:28
Does any other Backspace of GMK set is like this?
The stem seems having some problems.
Why no one mentioned it before?

(https://i.imgur.com/mEdRWdp.jpg)
it's very obvious.

(https://i.imgur.com/y1n7JTt.jpg)
Close looking

(https://i.imgur.com/KQjDffC.jpg)
The switch is box white.

(https://i.imgur.com/jRZyUDf.jpg)
I use HF origin to prove that the switch is no problem.

https://imgur.com/a/MNNklGF

Could I change the Backspace for a new one?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: japanitrat on Tue, 17 July 2018, 05:59:34
I'd love to know if anyone else in Canada has received a unit yet. I'm in Toronto waiting for a Premium kit with an extra base. No response from Yuktsi from PM over a month ago. Disappointing, still hopeful, but well BLAH.

<3

Same here. Switzerland
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 17 July 2018, 08:38:21
Does any other Backspace of GMK set is like this?
The stem seems having some problems.
Why no one mentioned it before?

I think that's a one-off issue, my backspace is perfectly fine as are all my other keys from the set. Not sure how much luck you're gonna have getting a replacement one, though, since this set was so limited.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Tue, 17 July 2018, 22:07:47
Does any other Backspace of GMK set is like this?
The stem seems having some problems.
Why no one mentioned it before?

I think that's a one-off issue, my backspace is perfectly fine as are all my other keys from the set. Not sure how much luck you're gonna have getting a replacement one, though, since this set was so limited.

S****....
Thanks your reply.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: meniscus- on Tue, 17 July 2018, 22:12:29
Does any other Backspace of GMK set is like this?
The stem seems having some problems.
Why no one mentioned it before?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/mEdRWdp.jpg)

it's very obvious.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/y1n7JTt.jpg)

Close looking

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KQjDffC.jpg)

The switch is box white.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/jRZyUDf.jpg)

I use HF origin to prove that the switch is no problem.

https://imgur.com/a/MNNklGF

Could I change the Backspace for a new one?

I wonder if you could try to contact GMK directly
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: baphotmet on Tue, 17 July 2018, 22:22:42
Does any other Backspace of GMK set is like this?
The stem seems having some problems.
Why no one mentioned it before?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/mEdRWdp.jpg)

it's very obvious.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/y1n7JTt.jpg)

Close looking

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KQjDffC.jpg)

The switch is box white.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/jRZyUDf.jpg)

I use HF origin to prove that the switch is no problem.

https://imgur.com/a/MNNklGF

Could I change the Backspace for a new one?

I wonder if you could try to contact GMK directly

I will contact yuktsi, thanks your suggestion.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PoisonHeadcrab on Wed, 18 July 2018, 15:09:50
I'd love to know if anyone else in Canada has received a unit yet. I'm in Toronto waiting for a Premium kit with an extra base. No response from Yuktsi from PM over a month ago. Disappointing, still hopeful, but well BLAH.

<3

Same here. Switzerland

Also Switzerland, also waiting for my board. Glad I'm not the only one who still hasn't got it...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Mon, 23 July 2018, 12:58:53
I'd love to know if anyone else in Canada has received a unit yet. I'm in Toronto waiting for a Premium kit with an extra base. No response from Yuktsi from PM over a month ago. Disappointing, still hopeful, but well BLAH.

<3
Same here, in US with premium grey. PM'd Yuktsi like a month ago just asking if there' an update and provided my order number. No reply. Wish I could just be assured that it's coming and generally when.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: invisiblefly on Tue, 24 July 2018, 01:23:24
Same

US, premium kit. no replied no update, nothing, still waiting  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Wed, 25 July 2018, 08:18:01
Germany. I have tracking but it doesn’t say anything...


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Wed, 25 July 2018, 08:38:27
UK, no responses, no update, complete radio silence.

Anyone in touch with Yuktsi know more? really hope the rest of us get these boards eventually (sooner the better)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Saifalhaj on Sun, 29 July 2018, 10:08:52
still nothing here, i received a tracking number that doesn't work, been 3 weeks since i got the tracking number it hasn't been activated if that's the situation.

hope to hear an update and hope to receive the keyboard premium kit before the 2 year mark.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Katanadog on Mon, 30 July 2018, 17:06:28
still nothing here, i received a tracking number that doesn't work, been 3 weeks since i got the tracking number it hasn't been activated if that's the situation.

hope to hear an update and hope to receive the keyboard premium kit before the 2 year mark.

I have the same problem. Via pm Yutski has informed me that this is a problem for all boards that were shipped out that day. They told me that they are contacting Aramex and that they would update me once they got word. Does anyone know how long it takes for a package to arrive to the USA? I am really hoping my board is not tied up somewhere.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Katanadog on Tue, 31 July 2018, 14:51:17
Just got word and now my tracking is working. Not sure if other people have fixed tracking also.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 31 July 2018, 17:40:31
no tracking yet but still super excited to get my hands on this

all the pics im seeing look great
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Wed, 01 August 2018, 07:44:50
Just got an notification email from UPS that mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. Looks like according to the tracking history it left Malaysia on Monday.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Moderate on Wed, 01 August 2018, 09:33:59
So I've had it for more than a few weeks and the keyboard is literally a paperweight. I just haven't had the time or patience to troubleshoot, especially after paying so much and waiting so long.

Any tips for fixing a dud row?

Symptoms are - after some time of being switched on (a few hours), the row in question (4rfc or row 11 if I remember correctly) is constantly active. Opening any text entry program will show "4rfc" being entered repeatedly.

Originally, this row was dead. I had to run a bridge wire from one of the pads next to the microcontroller (there's a pad corresponding to each pin) to 4, the first switch in that row in order to gain function of that row. However the row is useless once the above symptom develops.

Would love to discuss further with someone who thinks they can help!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Data on Wed, 01 August 2018, 10:17:57
I haven't tried to fix mine either.  I'm just so fed up and disgusted with it (and this whole debacle).  Maybe I'll care enough someday to get it working.  Such a shame that a great design is wasted on a miserable follow-through.  It's an attractive paperweight though!   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Friskywhisker on Thu, 02 August 2018, 15:38:09
I've been quietly following this thread, watching all of the issues pop up along with the lack of communication. I received a tracking number back in February that never ended up working so I PM'd yuktsi in June and was given a different tracking number on July 4th. That tracking number didn't work either, but fuzzbomb mentioned they got a tracking update so I checked mine again and saw that my Exent was out for delivery today.

I just opened up the package and everything looks good: my Exent and alu bottom are perfect with no dings or discoloration, my polcarb bottom has no cracks or chips, I received both the 8deg and 12deg feet I ordered and two PCBs (I ordered an extra). I plugged both of them in and all of the led's light up. I don't have switches on hand to build it and check beyond that, but fingers crossed everything else works if the led's light up. I didn't receive the two sets of stabs I ordered, but I kind of expected that since so far no one else got their stabs either.

Definitely one of the rockiest group buys I've been a part of, but thank you to yuktsi for steadily keeping things moving (at least in my case). Hopefully everyone ends up receiving their order once everything is said and done.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Fri, 10 August 2018, 14:47:24
My kit did indeed arrive last Thursday. No stabs as expected. Everything else was there. Anodizing looks good (chose the pink) and the polycarb seems undamaged. Haven't had a chance to test the PCB but I'm planning to build it on Sunday so we'll see. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Mon, 13 August 2018, 15:23:45
Successfully built the Exent this weekend. No issues with the PCB. LED's worked and all keys are functional. Used Cherry snap-in stabs and 67g Zealios. Looks and types fantastic.

Here's a little album:
https://imgur.com/a/6DyD2gy
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Mon, 13 August 2018, 15:54:50
Successfully built the Exent this weekend. No issues with the PCB. LED's worked and all keys are functional. Used Cherry snap-in stabs and 67g Zealios. Looks and types fantastic.

Here's a little album:
https://imgur.com/a/6DyD2gy

Looks great! Loving the pink!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Tue, 14 August 2018, 15:54:46
Successfully built the Exent this weekend. No issues with the PCB. LED's worked and all keys are functional. Used Cherry snap-in stabs and 67g Zealios. Looks and types fantastic.

Here's a little album:
https://imgur.com/a/6DyD2gy

That pink looks haawwwt


btw your spacebar looks a little slanted, both with the GMK profile and SA. From the first picture it looks like your stabs aren't seating properly? dunno, it might be a bent stab bar
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Thu, 16 August 2018, 20:22:42
Does anyone know what types of screws this thing uses? My board only came with about 1/3 of the screws I need to build it... Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Foreman on Fri, 17 August 2018, 22:15:07
So, I'd pretty much checked out of this GB, as around 8 or 9 months ago I just sort of gave up and figured it wouldn't actually happen, writing off everything as a loss.  As it appears things are happening, I was curious who I can message to double-check if my two premium kits really do exist, and if so how to get a tracking number.

I appreciate any help.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Moderate on Sat, 18 August 2018, 04:08:35
So, I'd pretty much checked out of this GB, as around 8 or 9 months ago I just sort of gave up and figured it wouldn't actually happen, writing off everything as a loss.  As it appears things are happening, I was curious who I can message to double-check if my two premium kits really do exist, and if so how to get a tracking number.

I appreciate any help.

Send a PM to yuktsi and hope that you receive a reply within a month, pretty much. He is fulfilling orders, just at a snail's pace.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Foreman on Sun, 19 August 2018, 23:44:31
So, I'd pretty much checked out of this GB, as around 8 or 9 months ago I just sort of gave up and figured it wouldn't actually happen, writing off everything as a loss.  As it appears things are happening, I was curious who I can message to double-check if my two premium kits really do exist, and if so how to get a tracking number.

I appreciate any help.

Send a PM to yuktsi and hope that you receive a reply within a month, pretty much. He is fulfilling orders, just at a snail's pace.

Thank you! I appreciate the help.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Cerasis on Wed, 22 August 2018, 20:04:52
Is there any other way to contact yuktsi at the moment? I've moved over to contacting him through discord but he hasn't been responding.

He says my keyset has been shipped 6 weeks ago but i haven't gotten tracking nor any word from my post office that anything has arrived. Just worried about the package itself since he said he can get tracking for me but didn't reply any further.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Thu, 23 August 2018, 08:10:24
Is there any other way to contact yuktsi at the moment? I've moved over to contacting him through discord but he hasn't been responding.

He says my keyset has been shipped 6 weeks ago but i haven't gotten tracking nor any word from my post office that anything has arrived. Just worried about the package itself since he said he can get tracking for me but didn't reply any further.
PMed
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Thu, 23 August 2018, 17:05:30
Is there any other way to contact yuktsi at the moment? I've moved over to contacting him through discord but he hasn't been responding.

He says my keyset has been shipped 6 weeks ago but i haven't gotten tracking nor any word from my post office that anything has arrived. Just worried about the package itself since he said he can get tracking for me but didn't reply any further.
PMed
Hey Yuktsi, is there anyway to get some info on an order? I have it shipping to what is now an old address which is fine I can pick it up but I just need to know when. PM'd a while ago and never heard back
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LVNDSCAPE on Sun, 26 August 2018, 11:56:26
Is this board still available for order?? The form isn't closed yet.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 26 August 2018, 11:57:32
Is this board still available for order?? The form isn't closed yet.

No. It has not been available for a very long time. The form being open is a mistake.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Mon, 27 August 2018, 04:01:04
Is there any other way to contact yuktsi at the moment? I've moved over to contacting him through discord but he hasn't been responding.

He says my keyset has been shipped 6 weeks ago but i haven't gotten tracking nor any word from my post office that anything has arrived. Just worried about the package itself since he said he can get tracking for me but didn't reply any further.
PMed
Hi Yuktsi, I had already Pm'd about a week ago. Just wondering what the latest is on the remaining orders. Thanks as always.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Tue, 28 August 2018, 12:47:05
Looking for either PC or Alu bottom. If anyone has an extra, PM me PLEASE!
I just need a bottom.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Tue, 28 August 2018, 17:15:31
I know it's been said in this thread but I can't find it. Can someone share me a link on the correct stabilizers I should buy? They weren't in my order.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yonghf on Tue, 28 August 2018, 20:54:36
Mine didn't come with any screws. Does anyone know the screw size/length required to attach top and bottom piece?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Tue, 28 August 2018, 20:56:48
I know it's been said in this thread but I can't find it. Can someone share me a link on the correct stabilizers I should buy? They weren't in my order.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

You can buy any PCB mount stabilizers. It's recommended to go with GMK Screw In Stabilizers.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: glack23 on Tue, 28 August 2018, 21:03:39
Mine didn't come with any screws. Does anyone know the screw suzey/length required to attach top and bottom piece?
Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Poly to casing: M3 x 15mm socket head screw

Someone share this earlier but not sure if this is what u want.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yonghf on Tue, 28 August 2018, 21:50:35
Mine didn't come with any screws. Does anyone know the screw suzey/length required to attach top and bottom piece?
Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Poly to casing: M3 x 15mm socket head screw

Someone share this earlier but not sure if this is what u want.

Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

Yes, that's it! Thanks Bro :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Wed, 29 August 2018, 08:11:36
I know it's been said in this thread but I can't find it. Can someone share me a link on the correct stabilizers I should buy? They weren't in my order.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

You can buy any PCB mount stabilizers. It's recommended to go with GMK Screw In Stabilizers.
Thanks I appreciate it!

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 30 August 2018, 16:19:45
I know it's been said in this thread but I can't find it. Can someone share me a link on the correct stabilizers I should buy? They weren't in my order.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

You can buy any PCB mount stabilizers. It's recommended to go with GMK Screw In Stabilizers.
Thanks I appreciate it!

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I might be too late, but I actually would advise against using screw-in stabilizers unless you're ready to do some troubleshooting. Many people here have had issues with screwing stabilizers even after attempting to use plastic washers to avoid shorts. The screw-in stabilizers might feel better, but if you want to play it safe then PCB mount clip-in stabilizers would be easier.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BaconEggandCheeseBagel on Thu, 30 August 2018, 18:23:59
So funnily enough I put my board together today (I know I am late to the party) and what do you know... LEDs work but not a single switch registers. Is this a known problem?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BaconEggandCheeseBagel on Thu, 30 August 2018, 21:23:31
Nevermind, figured that the board ships without firmware. Still having issues with select keys mainly: 2 W S and Z not registering. seems odd to be an MCU issue when its not the entire column but select ones from it. Any advice?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kelasol on Fri, 31 August 2018, 01:17:54
Nevermind, figured that the board ships without firmware. Still having issues with select keys mainly: 2 W S and Z not registering. seems odd to be an MCU issue when its not the entire column but select ones from it. Any advice?

I had an issue with just my Q key not working on my CA66. It was because I was over tightening my screw-in stabs in areas where the pcb has unused switch-pin/led holes. The tape I used to cover was being pushed out and exposing metal to metal contact due to tightening it too much. Hope this is helpful. Thankfully, my Exent hasn't had any of the issues that others have struggled with in this GB. Thanks Yuktsi for helping to get the rest of the boards shipped out.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BaconEggandCheeseBagel on Fri, 31 August 2018, 16:16:52
Thanks for the recommendations. Not using screw-in stabs. Realized that those keys are actually row 13. I attempted to reflow the PCB, but my conical tip was not working well with it. Needed better flux on the solder joints. MCU is now not triggering a lot of the rows/columns so I suspect Ill have to reflow the entire MCU.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Fri, 31 August 2018, 18:37:39
Finally got my exent in and got it all assembled. However I'm having a lot of trouble getting the bootmapper, etc. to work. I loaded the firmware and did the keymap like it said but unfortunately it doesnt map it correctly. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. Only a few keys seem to be mapped and none are mapped correctly. All of the LEDs on my board look ok, and I've triple checked my solders and they look good too. I don't think its an assembly issue but a firmware/software issue. Can someone shed some light on what I might be doing wrong?

EDIT : If someone were willing to hop in a phone call or discord channel and talk me through this I'd be happy to pay you for your time :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: garbo on Thu, 06 September 2018, 04:18:44
I ordered a grey kit with a pc bottom and received a silver/aluminium one, so if anyone's in the opposite situation I guess our orders got mixed up.

It might be more likely that it came from the stock of extras for sale on TM, though, I suppose. Hope I can eventually end up with the right keyboard either way.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Sat, 08 September 2018, 00:52:07
Hi Yuktsi, have you seen my message? Still waiting for any news. ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Wed, 12 September 2018, 17:48:37
I may be a fool but, does someone know anything about replacement bottoms? Is people still waiting for their orders?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Wed, 12 September 2018, 19:31:16
I may be a fool but, does someone know anything about replacement bottoms? Is people still waiting for their orders?

People are still waiting on their orders. No word on replacements yet, but we are hoping to get word once shipping finishes
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: super_psion on Fri, 14 September 2018, 07:57:44
Haven't received my premium kit yet or any sort of shipping notification.
Have messaged yuktsi 3 times now, and no response :(
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Fri, 14 September 2018, 23:10:01
Just got the message from Yuktsi, he sent me the tracking number. The code didn't work, maybe I need to wait for few more days. :D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Sat, 15 September 2018, 03:24:58
Got my tracking number finally and it works! You might just have to wait a day or two. Else message Yuktsi back and they’ll sort it.

Thanks Yuktsi for your continued efforts with this.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Sun, 16 September 2018, 12:54:23
Anyone willing to help me troubleshoot what is wrong with my board? Having a hard time figuring out what I am doing wrong.

I've come to the conclusion something is wrong with my PCB. Anyone who had a lot of PCB issues have any troubleshooting steps I can take?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Wed, 19 September 2018, 10:14:26
My Exent arrived here in Ireland today, a blue one with silver alu bottom. I didn't get charged any customs fees; it was marked as a gift and the insured value was put down as €100, €40 of which was the shipping cost.

I'm like 90% sure I didn't order any extra stabs or PCB or anything, and didn't receive any either. Everything was very well packaged with lots of packing foam, and the steel foot was detached even though there is zero chance of an alu bottom cracking.

As others have said the anodising quality is amazing. The board is also very heavy, it's about 2.5kg with the alu bottom and steel foot.

I was able to get the PCB working with bootmapper with Catweewee's guide. I hope to get QMK running on the PCB using this port for ps2avrGB PCBs (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/ps2avrGB). If I succeed I'll probably make a guide if anyone else wants to do the same ;D

I haven't put the board together yet, but I put some random switches in the plate/PCB and put on some keycaps to see what it would look like.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/0pf546m.jpg)


I was worried at first that the board would feel and sound really inconsistent given there are only four screws holding on the plate, two at either end. However it turns out the mounts for the bottom housing actually sit slightly below the edge of the plate, so the bottom housing is in contact with the plate rather than the top housing. I guess this makes the Exent sandwich mount rather than top mount.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Q15ZdiY.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qqGEMkN.jpg)


One thing I did notice is that my plate doesn't have the little extra cut out to ensure the stab wire doesn't hit the plate for the 7u stab. In my case the stab wire just doesn't hit the plate, so it makes little difference to me anyway.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/cJnoh8O.jpg)


Did you ever get this working with QMK? I am having some trouble with bootmapper client on macOS.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Wed, 19 September 2018, 22:41:15
Just got notification about the shipment, my exent is on the way. So excited!!!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Thu, 20 September 2018, 06:13:58
(https://i.imgur.com/GKM2kNv.jpg)
https://imgur.com/a/ZvqAYuh
My exent arrived today.
So happy!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Thu, 20 September 2018, 11:25:03
Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...

Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.


TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)

Thanks in advance!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kacase on Thu, 20 September 2018, 11:45:32
Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...

Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.


TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)

Thanks in advance!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

You shouldn’t give up quite yet.

It took me ages to fix mine too. First some rows were unresponsive because my stab screws were screwed in too much. Then somehow my PCB was not recognised by my pc anymore.

I had nearly given up. Windows was giving me unrecognised device notifications and even that only once in a blue moon. Most of the time it didn’t say anything.

I reinstalled the usb drivers and tried flashing the firmware. The first five times when i managed to flash it I got no response and it was gone after.

Somehow after numerous tries the firmware stayed and it was stable.

Finally I was able to push my key mapping onto the device and it now works fine.

It was an absolute nightmare but I’m glad I didn’t give up. You shouldn’t either. You can do it.


Here some links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6m98fc/kbd75_device_not_recognized/



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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Mekuno on Thu, 20 September 2018, 11:54:23
At least these are slowly but surely going out.. I wonder how many are left to fulfill now? It can't be that much left considering how long it took so far?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Gdubb90 on Thu, 20 September 2018, 13:05:13
Thank you for this. I've still got some fight left in me
Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...

Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.


TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)

Thanks in advance!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

You shouldn’t give up quite yet.

It took me ages to fix mine too. First some rows were unresponsive because my stab screws were screwed in too much. Then somehow my PCB was not recognised by my pc anymore.

I had nearly given up. Windows was giving me unrecognised device notifications and even that only once in a blue moon. Most of the time it didn’t say anything.

I reinstalled the usb drivers and tried flashing the firmware. The first five times when i managed to flash it I got no response and it was gone after.

Somehow after numerous tries the firmware stayed and it was stable.

Finally I was able to push my key mapping onto the device and it now works fine.

It was an absolute nightmare but I’m glad I didn’t give up. You shouldn’t either. You can do it.


Here some links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6m98fc/kbd75_device_not_recognized/



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Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Saifalhaj on Thu, 20 September 2018, 14:42:05
the catweewee guide isn't working can anyone help me out with programming?

following the guide i don't get the BAD all across the table but otherwise it flashes and some keys type numbers like .0,12..0,13..0,12.

any help would be appreciated.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Fri, 21 September 2018, 07:05:40
Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...

Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.


TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)

Thanks in advance!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

the catweewee guide isn't working can anyone help me out with programming?

following the guide i don't get the BAD all across the table but otherwise it flashes and some keys type numbers like .0,12..0,13..0,12.

any help would be appreciated.

I've also tried all the advice so far given through Reddit links, Github, etc and still no luck.

I have downloaded the Bootmapper client from WKL for macOS. 
Cleared the EEPROM and 'firm up' with the NKRO.hex file.
After this, the mac just does not recognise the board at all.
I have tried different usb sockets and different cables.
Tried LCTRL for reset as well as 'U' + 'P' and '0' - nothing works.

I also downloaded drivers for atmel chips.

My next thought is to try using a PC (instead of mac) however I do not have access to one.

Can anyone please help? I just need the mac to recognise the board to start with and I might be able to at least do something after this point. Are there any pins that would reset the board?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dr_derivative on Fri, 21 September 2018, 13:30:01
Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...

Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.


TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)

Thanks in advance!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

the catweewee guide isn't working can anyone help me out with programming?

following the guide i don't get the BAD all across the table but otherwise it flashes and some keys type numbers like .0,12..0,13..0,12.

any help would be appreciated.

I've also tried all the advice so far given through Reddit links, Github, etc and still no luck.

I have downloaded the Bootmapper client from WKL for macOS. 
Cleared the EEPROM and 'firm up' with the NKRO.hex file.
After this, the mac just does not recognise the board at all.
I have tried different usb sockets and different cables.
Tried LCTRL for reset as well as 'U' + 'P' and '0' - nothing works.

I also downloaded drivers for atmel chips.

My next thought is to try using a PC (instead of mac) however I do not have access to one.

Can anyone please help? I just need the mac to recognise the board to start with and I might be able to at least do something after this point. Are there any pins that would reset the board?

To put the board into bootloader mode you hold backspace (or the left split backspace key if you use split backspace) while plugging it in. I think the left ctrl is a mistake in catweewee's guide (it is left ctrl for a lot of other ps2avrGB boards but not the Exent). Not sure if it'll fix your problem though

...

Did you ever get this working with QMK? I am having some trouble with bootmapper client on macOS.

Mine's sort-of working with QMK, but it still needs a bit more work. I'll post a guide here if/when it's properly working.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: stevesie on Fri, 21 September 2018, 17:47:50

To put the board into bootloader mode you hold backspace (or the left split backspace key if you use split backspace) while plugging it in. I think the left ctrl is a mistake in catweewee's guide (it is left ctrl for a lot of other ps2avrGB boards but not the Exent). Not sure if it'll fix your problem though
...

Thank you so so so much for this. I was having the same issue as the person above, followed the guide from u/catweewee and could not get it to be recognized by *any* computer. Tried CTRL as bootloader mode, reflowed the chip, even went as far as trying to reprogram it through the ICSP pins (Didn't get that working either) But within 10 minutes of seeing your post, I had it back up and working. Holding backspace got it to be recognized by the computer, I re-did the firm up utility with the PS2Avrgb hex from catweewee then *WAITED* longer than I usually would (the reboot after this took longer than I would have expected and probably longer than I waited the first time) Saw the LEDS turn on at some point around now, heard the wonderful/dreadful USB plug/unplug sounds from windows, and did a download to see the exent hex was loaded. After that, unplugged, un-bridged backspace, and then plugged it in and it seems to be working. Does well in Keyboard tester that I was able to quickly hit a few, no leaking keypresses or anything.

So thanks again and I wanted to also document my issues here. Assembling this for a client and having so many issues with no real instructions or input from the makers is frustrating. I had just about given up.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 22 September 2018, 02:21:35
Anyone willing to help me troubleshoot what is wrong with my board? Having a hard time figuring out what I am doing wrong.

I've come to the conclusion something is wrong with my PCB. Anyone who had a lot of PCB issues have any troubleshooting steps I can take?
PMed.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Sat, 22 September 2018, 02:24:45
Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...

Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.


TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)

Thanks in advance!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

the catweewee guide isn't working can anyone help me out with programming?

following the guide i don't get the BAD all across the table but otherwise it flashes and some keys type numbers like .0,12..0,13..0,12.

any help would be appreciated.

I've also tried all the advice so far given through Reddit links, Github, etc and still no luck.

I have downloaded the Bootmapper client from WKL for macOS. 
Cleared the EEPROM and 'firm up' with the NKRO.hex file.
After this, the mac just does not recognise the board at all.
I have tried different usb sockets and different cables.
Tried LCTRL for reset as well as 'U' + 'P' and '0' - nothing works.

I also downloaded drivers for atmel chips.

My next thought is to try using a PC (instead of mac) however I do not have access to one.

Can anyone please help? I just need the mac to recognise the board to start with and I might be able to at least do something after this point. Are there any pins that would reset the board?
I am afraid you will need Windows if you are using the 2016 Macbook or newer. Here's my keymap file in case anyone needs it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ippylkaswwnyswv/Exent_keymap_gb_20180922152011.hex?dl=0

Open Bootmapper Client > hit "Load .hex/ .hex > select the file above > check "Reboot after uploading" > hit upload
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Sat, 22 September 2018, 14:11:31
More
Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...

Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.


TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)

Thanks in advance!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

the catweewee guide isn't working can anyone help me out with programming?

following the guide i don't get the BAD all across the table but otherwise it flashes and some keys type numbers like .0,12..0,13..0,12.

any help would be appreciated.

I've also tried all the advice so far given through Reddit links, Github, etc and still no luck.

I have downloaded the Bootmapper client from WKL for macOS. 
Cleared the EEPROM and 'firm up' with the NKRO.hex file.
After this, the mac just does not recognise the board at all.
I have tried different usb sockets and different cables.
Tried LCTRL for reset as well as 'U' + 'P' and '0' - nothing works.

I also downloaded drivers for atmel chips.

My next thought is to try using a PC (instead of mac) however I do not have access to one.

Can anyone please help? I just need the mac to recognise the board to start with and I might be able to at least do something after this point. Are there any pins that would reset the board?

To put the board into bootloader mode you hold backspace (or the left split backspace key if you use split backspace) while plugging it in. I think the left ctrl is a mistake in catweewee's guide (it is left ctrl for a lot of other ps2avrGB boards but not the Exent). Not sure if it'll fix your problem though

...

Did you ever get this working with QMK? I am having some trouble with bootmapper client on macOS.

Mine's sort-of working with QMK, but it still needs a bit more work. I'll post a guide here if/when it's properly working.

Thanks for this. I reached out to Quadcube and he helped me get it up and running. It was exactly as you said, backspace to bootloader mode. I’ll make another post to add step by step instructions for others or a pull on catweewee’s git for macOS instructions.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Sat, 22 September 2018, 14:24:15
More
Unfortunately I have tried everything I know to do to rehab and get my PCB working properly, but no luck...

Although I hate to even ask this. Does anyone have any ideas (DIY or otherwise) on how I could potentially buy a third party PCB (and plate if necessary) that would fit in the Exent? Its not the ideal solution but I'm low on options.


TL;DR
Could another PCB fit the Exent plate? If not, is there a third party plate I could use (even if I had drill screw holes, etc)

Thanks in advance!

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

the catweewee guide isn't working can anyone help me out with programming?

following the guide i don't get the BAD all across the table but otherwise it flashes and some keys type numbers like .0,12..0,13..0,12.

any help would be appreciated.

I've also tried all the advice so far given through Reddit links, Github, etc and still no luck.

I have downloaded the Bootmapper client from WKL for macOS. 
Cleared the EEPROM and 'firm up' with the NKRO.hex file.
After this, the mac just does not recognise the board at all.
I have tried different usb sockets and different cables.
Tried LCTRL for reset as well as 'U' + 'P' and '0' - nothing works.

I also downloaded drivers for atmel chips.

My next thought is to try using a PC (instead of mac) however I do not have access to one.

Can anyone please help? I just need the mac to recognise the board to start with and I might be able to at least do something after this point. Are there any pins that would reset the board?
I am afraid you will need Windows if you are using the 2016 Macbook or newer. Here's my keymap file in case anyone needs it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ippylkaswwnyswv/Exent_keymap_gb_20180922152011.hex?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ippylkaswwnyswv/Exent_keymap_gb_20180922152011.hex?dl=0)

Open Bootmapper Client > hit "Load .hex/ .hex > select the file above > check "Reboot after uploading" > hit upload

No, I have got it working with the help of u/Quadcube on my Mac. I just needed the right key for bootloader mode and the latest firmware.

Please reply to my latest email when you get the chance.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Sun, 23 September 2018, 14:55:18
So I have got my Exent working and checked that every key and LED work. It isn't fully built yet, as I am waiting on switches.

I have forked catweewee's github and amended the steps to work for the Exent. Hopefully, this helps anyone else having trouble with this PCB.
I am happy to make changes to it and add any troubleshooting tips or general tips (the dual action keys are ace!).

https://github.com/sachin3767/Exent-Bootmapper
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Mekuno on Sun, 23 September 2018, 22:10:35
So I have got my Exent working and checked that every key and LED work. It isn't fully built yet, as I am waiting on switches.

I have forked catweewee's github and amended the steps to work for the Exent. Hopefully, this helps anyone else having trouble with this PCB.
I am happy to make changes to it and add any troubleshooting tips or general tips (the dual action keys are ace!).

https://github.com/sachin3767/Exent-Bootmapper

So all I have to do is download your link and just follow the revised steps you made? Thanks for this, I will probably be needing this once I get my exent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Mon, 24 September 2018, 04:15:33
So I have got my Exent working and checked that every key and LED work. It isn't fully built yet, as I am waiting on switches.

I have forked catweewee's github and amended the steps to work for the Exent. Hopefully, this helps anyone else having trouble with this PCB.
I am happy to make changes to it and add any troubleshooting tips or general tips (the dual action keys are ace!).

https://github.com/sachin3767/Exent-Bootmapper

So all I have to do is download your link and just follow the revised steps you made? Thanks for this, I will probably be needing this once I get my exent.

yes, hopefully should be that simple now. But if not just drop me a message and i'll try to help where I can.
The links are to WKL's dropbox for the client. And the .hex file is from Yuktsi (i've just put it all in one place, so cannot take credit for any of that)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Saifalhaj on Tue, 25 September 2018, 13:27:15
So I have got my Exent working and checked that every key and LED work. It isn't fully built yet, as I am waiting on switches.

I have forked catweewee's github and amended the steps to work for the Exent. Hopefully, this helps anyone else having trouble with this PCB.
I am happy to make changes to it and add any troubleshooting tips or general tips (the dual action keys are ace!).

https://github.com/sachin3767/Exent-Bootmapper


So all I have to do is download your link and just follow the revised steps you made? Thanks for this, I will probably be needing this once I get my exent.

yes, hopefully should be that simple now. But if not just drop me a message and i'll try to help where I can.
The links are to WKL's dropbox for the client. And the .hex file is from Yuktsi (i've just put it all in one place, so cannot take credit for any of that)


bootmapper gets stuck on processing... message while uploading the keymap exent file.
i have updated to the latest firmware and the latest boot mapper.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Wed, 26 September 2018, 03:55:35
So I have got my Exent working and checked that every key and LED work. It isn't fully built yet, as I am waiting on switches.

I have forked catweewee's github and amended the steps to work for the Exent. Hopefully, this helps anyone else having trouble with this PCB.
I am happy to make changes to it and add any troubleshooting tips or general tips (the dual action keys are ace!).

https://github.com/sachin3767/Exent-Bootmapper


So all I have to do is download your link and just follow the revised steps you made? Thanks for this, I will probably be needing this once I get my exent.

yes, hopefully should be that simple now. But if not just drop me a message and i'll try to help where I can.
The links are to WKL's dropbox for the client. And the .hex file is from Yuktsi (i've just put it all in one place, so cannot take credit for any of that)


bootmapper gets stuck on processing... message while uploading the keymap exent file.
i have updated to the latest firmware and the latest boot mapper.

What happens when you download the keymap from the PCB after 'firm up' of the firmware?

What I did was just remap the keys myself instead of using Yuktsi's keymap as I have a UK ISO layout. On Upload this works every time. If this still doesn't quite work, I have uploaded my keymap (Exent_keymap_gb_SM.hex.zip) to the github. Try that as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Saifalhaj on Wed, 26 September 2018, 11:53:44
So I have got my Exent working and checked that every key and LED work. It isn't fully built yet, as I am waiting on switches.

I have forked catweewee's github and amended the steps to work for the Exent. Hopefully, this helps anyone else having trouble with this PCB.
I am happy to make changes to it and add any troubleshooting tips or general tips (the dual action keys are ace!).

https://github.com/sachin3767/Exent-Bootmapper


So all I have to do is download your link and just follow the revised steps you made? Thanks for this, I will probably be needing this once I get my exent.

yes, hopefully should be that simple now. But if not just drop me a message and i'll try to help where I can.
The links are to WKL's dropbox for the client. And the .hex file is from Yuktsi (i've just put it all in one place, so cannot take credit for any of that)


bootmapper gets stuck on processing... message while uploading the keymap exent file.
i have updated to the latest firmware and the latest boot mapper.

What happens when you download the keymap from the PCB after 'firm up' of the firmware?

What I did was just remap the keys myself instead of using Yuktsi's keymap as I have a UK ISO layout. On Upload this works every time. If this still doesn't quite work, I have uploaded my keymap (Exent_keymap_gb_SM.hex.zip) to the github. Try that as well.


got it sorted it was a faulty pcb glad i ordered a second one, wish me luck desoldering :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: alexfry on Fri, 12 October 2018, 05:10:14
Anyone had a recent shipment?

Still waiting... PMing yuktsi hasn’t produced any replies for me... ever
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: nop_coder on Sat, 13 October 2018, 18:28:06
Same here waiting for my kit or any information about my order
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rustywok on Mon, 15 October 2018, 10:34:44
Same here waiting for my kit or any information about my order

I just got a UPS notification for my Extent. Delivery tomorrow. 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Dylan on Tue, 16 October 2018, 14:22:48
Any update on orders? Really wish I could just have a quick update :/
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lazyfart on Tue, 16 October 2018, 18:21:01
Why is the order form still live? Are orders still going... 2 years later?

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 16 October 2018, 21:09:08
Why is the order form still live? Are orders still going... 2 years later?

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It definitely shouldn't be.  The OP has been MIA for a long time and has not been maintaining this thread.  I will edit out the order form link.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lazyfart on Wed, 17 October 2018, 00:29:02
Ah I see. Thanks for clarifying!
Why is the order form still live? Are orders still going... 2 years later?

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It definitely shouldn't be.  The OP has been MIA for a long time and has not been maintaining this thread.  I will edit out the order form link.

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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Phinnegan on Sat, 20 October 2018, 21:42:21
Finally rolled in!  Had to replace 4 of the ws2812s to get the LEDs working, as well as additional paste/solder on the mc  (pcb assembly is definitely a mess per everyone else) but everything works.  Thanks to sachin for the updated guide, re-flashed the hex, all the keys did show as BAD (no pre-configured keymap, but uploading the one from the repo worked just fine).

Now I have to find where I put the keycaps I was going to put on this.

Many thanks to Yuktsi for picking up the pieces on this buy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 20 October 2018, 21:55:27
Finally rolled in!  Had to replace 4 of the ws2812s to get the LEDs working, as well as additional paste/solder on the mc  (pcb assembly is definitely a mess per everyone else) but everything works.  Thanks to sachin for the updated guide, re-flashed the hex, all the keys did show as BAD (no pre-configured keymap, but uploading the one from the repo worked just fine).

Now I have to find where I put the keycaps I was going to put on this.

Many thanks to Yuktsi for picking up the pieces on this buy.


Ah, the silver one is gorgeous. Great to see it fully functional!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Phinnegan on Sun, 21 October 2018, 15:39:36
Finally rolled in!  Had to replace 4 of the ws2812s to get the LEDs working, as well as additional paste/solder on the mc  (pcb assembly is definitely a mess per everyone else) but everything works.  Thanks to sachin for the updated guide, re-flashed the hex, all the keys did show as BAD (no pre-configured keymap, but uploading the one from the repo worked just fine).

Now I have to find where I put the keycaps I was going to put on this.

Many thanks to Yuktsi for picking up the pieces on this buy.


Ah, the silver one is gorgeous. Great to see it fully functional!

Yep, its a stunner for sure.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: razor_blade on Sun, 21 October 2018, 19:15:47
I need to track down an unused plate from someone in here. I want to get a batch of them cut, but I need one that isn't in a board and I am too lazy to desolder my grand new r/mm find. Anyone have one they are willing to sell?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: 0x6d on Wed, 31 October 2018, 19:01:07
Just wondering if there are still folks that haven't got their kits yet? Haven't seen too much activity on here about that recently and I'm still here waiting patiently with no responses from Yuktsi. Hopefully this is still inching along.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: yuktsi on Wed, 31 October 2018, 21:08:44
I need to track down an unused plate from someone in here. I want to get a batch of them cut, but I need one that isn't in a board and I am too lazy to desolder my grand new r/mm find. Anyone have one they are willing to sell?
It’s moving but slowly. We have <20 orders more boards to ship now. Hopefully can be done ASAP.

I will get back to your PM later. Sorry.


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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: stevesie on Wed, 31 October 2018, 22:55:10
For anyone that is having issues of whole columns firing, I believe that I just figured out what is happening. I don't know if y'all are still checking that have problems, but it's an interesting problem and I put the project away for a while until I finished another one.

So, if you look on the back of the PCB where the through hole pads for the switches are, there is a tiny, almost imperceptible piece of non solder mask there. If you look close, it almost looks like it's part of the pad. To diagram it in text looks like this: (0 and much closer and more difficult to see. If that is bridged on any of the switches, it appears to cause the whole column to trigger. (I believe that it shorts the entire column to ground which is what triggers the whole row.)

I had asked about it and messaged  yuktsi about it where it was mentioned that it was solder overflow and to remove the switches and use desoldering braid to take up the solder and to clean with alcohol. I unfortunately got hung up on the removing switches part as I had never soldered switches to this board. (In addition to the mcu not being completely soldered, there were a few bad RGB LEDs that needed replacement and this tiny gap was bridged by solder at some point during the LED replacement process.)

So if you have issues like 4rfv all triggering at once, This is very likely your answer. Desolder, clean with braid (it took a long time for me to soak up the right solder even with flux, but I'm also bad with/hate solder wick) clean with alcohol and keep testing.



Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: alexfry on Mon, 05 November 2018, 19:54:27
Rapidly coming up on 1000 days since the end of the Groupbuy.
Still no board.
Still no reply to any of my PMs.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Tue, 13 November 2018, 17:46:18
still looking for an ALU bottom on this. if anyone wants to unload theirs. (open to trades) :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Wed, 14 November 2018, 15:21:31
I’m looking for an Alu bottom, because mine started to crack more like hell. If anyone has an extra, pls pm me anytime.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: trimetric on Sun, 18 November 2018, 22:15:12
Any word on whether all the original GB orders have shipped?  Still eagerly waiting on a Silver Premium Kit.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Sun, 18 November 2018, 22:54:22
Any word on whether all the original GB orders have shipped?  Still eagerly waiting on a Silver Premium Kit.

They haven't completed shipping yet
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: 0x6d on Tue, 20 November 2018, 14:39:27
Any word on whether all the original GB orders have shipped?  Still eagerly waiting on a Silver Premium Kit.

Also still waiting on a Silver Premium Kit
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: grayish on Mon, 17 December 2018, 17:19:04
I recieved my black exent with both pu and alu bottoms a couple of months ago. Finally got around to build it when the switches and stabs arrived. The pcb was acting up at first when I tried to map it but after a few hours and assorted Swedish curses it started to work. I know a lot of you have had problems and that it’s usually the dissatisfied customers who speak up in the forums, but I want to chime in and tell you everything arrived just fine (except some missing screws). Thank you so much Yuktsi for sticking around and finish this GB. It was worth the wait. The thing is a work of art.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Mon, 17 December 2018, 17:39:10
Finally got my four Exents a couple days ago. Haven't built anything yet, but just so incredibly happy to actually have these in my possession. Thanks for keeping this GB alive Yuktsi.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 17 December 2018, 22:02:24
My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: lendflat on Tue, 18 December 2018, 14:15:47
This thing looks like my skateboard.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 18 December 2018, 14:22:46
My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?

You might want to check your microcontroller and see if all of the connections look good. Several people have had issues with the microcontroller not being soldered very well. Here is a helpful place to start. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2618445#msg2618445) It's a comment containing a diagram of the microcontroller pins, and some of the following comments contain details of what other people have had to do.

I'm not very familiar with troubleshooting stuff like this, so sorry that I can't be of more help. But hopefully that will get you started and maybe someone smarter than me can chime in.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 18 December 2018, 20:11:14
My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?

You might want to check your microcontroller and see if all of the connections look good. Several people have had issues with the microcontroller not being soldered very well. Here is a helpful place to start. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2618445#msg2618445) It's a comment containing a diagram of the microcontroller pins, and some of the following comments contain details of what other people have had to do.

I'm not very familiar with troubleshooting stuff like this, so sorry that I can't be of more help. But hopefully that will get you started and maybe someone smarter than me can chime in.

Doesn't seem to be the issue.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gnarlsagan on Tue, 18 December 2018, 20:21:51
My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?

You might want to check your microcontroller and see if all of the connections look good. Several people have had issues with the microcontroller not being soldered very well. Here is a helpful place to start. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2618445#msg2618445) It's a comment containing a diagram of the microcontroller pins, and some of the following comments contain details of what other people have had to do.

I'm not very familiar with troubleshooting stuff like this, so sorry that I can't be of more help. But hopefully that will get you started and maybe someone smarter than me can chime in.

Doesn't seem to be the issue.


I had this issue on a previous keyboard (not an Exent), and the problem was that a slightly misaligned diode needed to be resoldered. When I was looking at the diodes it wasn't very obvious at all, as the misalignment was very minor, so I felt like I was guessing. Turned out to be right.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 18 December 2018, 21:03:55
My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?

You might want to check your microcontroller and see if all of the connections look good. Several people have had issues with the microcontroller not being soldered very well. Here is a helpful place to start. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2618445#msg2618445) It's a comment containing a diagram of the microcontroller pins, and some of the following comments contain details of what other people have had to do.

I'm not very familiar with troubleshooting stuff like this, so sorry that I can't be of more help. But hopefully that will get you started and maybe someone smarter than me can chime in.


Doesn't seem to be the issue.


I had this issue on a previous keyboard (not an Exent), and the problem was that a slightly misaligned diode needed to be resoldered. When I was looking at the diodes it wasn't very obvious at all, as the misalignment was very minor, so I felt like I was guessing. Turned out to be right.

I'm wondering if I have a blown diode or something. All my diodes look good, though.

I've been tracing leads (checking continuity), and I've attached an image of what I've come up with so far. Can anyone tell me where the path should go next (from the question mark)?

BTW green indicates good continuity, while red indicates no continuity.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Sun, 30 December 2018, 13:28:06
Can anyone help me here?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Thu, 03 January 2019, 03:23:36
Looking for an aluminum bottom. If anyone has an extra one, pls hit me up.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Fri, 04 January 2019, 11:10:16
The day this arrives is going to be a really pleasant surprise, I will keep the faith.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 08 January 2019, 00:45:28
Looking for an aluminum bottom. If anyone has an extra one, pls hit me up.

lmk if you want a purple one with pc bottom. cheers!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: alexfry on Thu, 24 January 2019, 13:19:32
Day 1068......

Still empty handed......
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 24 January 2019, 13:24:33
Ah, today marks Year 2 since the start of this group buy. Sorry to hear you still have nothing, Alex.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Thu, 24 January 2019, 15:41:31
Day 1068......

Still empty handed......

TGR
Aconic
RAMA
Originative
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: krispy on Thu, 24 January 2019, 18:38:20
My package arrived missing about half of the screws needed to build the board.. Does anyone know what type/length screws the exent uses?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: si on Tue, 29 January 2019, 06:18:56
Who's **** do i have to suck to get an update?

My board arrived back in august but i had ordered an extra polycarbonate bottom which did not arrive with the rest of my kit. My guess is that they were using any extra polycarb bottoms to replace the broken ones and mine was chosen to be a donor for someone else's. I got in touch with Yuktsi because juahenza doesn't respond to anything anymore and I told Yuktsi that all i wanted was a complete kit and that i was willing to put extra money to cover for shipping/manufacturing of a polycarbonate bottom just so that i could get one. That way Yuktsi wouldn't be financially burdened for the **** show that was the EXENT group buy. He said he would get back to me in a few days and so i waited patiently... for FIVE MONTHS and no response whatsoever. I was thinking maybe he's just really busy but at least he could message me telling me that it will be a while longer before he gets around to manufacturing more bottoms. Anything at all would suffice just to know that i'm not completely **** out of luck. I've since sent him a couple of messages thinking he might have forgotten but it's been weeks and no response as of yet. I don't think i'm asking for much here, just word that stuff is moving along. I am willing to pay EXTRA and i've been really patient with this group buy as i've been along for this ride for two years now. So who do i have to talk to so i can find out more about replacement bottoms or if that is happening at all anymore?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 29 January 2019, 14:42:59
...
I told Yuktsi that all i wanted was a complete kit and that i was willing to put extra money to cover for shipping/manufacturing of a polycarbonate bottom just so that i could get one.

...
So who do i have to talk to so i can find out more about replacement bottoms or if that is happening at all anymore?

Man that sucks. The fact that you were willing to go that far makes me wonder why there would be any issue. That's going above and beyond on your part. Since it was claimed that they were going make more polycarbonate bottoms to replace the broken ones it doesn't sound like a problem.

I wish I could say I feel your pain. My order was missing an extra PCB that I ordered and two sets of stabilizers. I was told that some money would be refunded but that didn't happen (and to be fair I didn't expect it too). And yet in comparison to people like you and many others I still consider myself one of the lucky ones at the end of the day. I don't know if that's hilarious or sad.

As for who you have to talk to, Yuktsi would be your only hope. You could try getting a hold of codywanks but I doubt he's still involved with this group by. I'm guessing all shipments are going to be as-is though. Anything missing or broken isn't going to be replaced.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 29 January 2019, 20:18:44
Yeah my Exent was going fine and then the PCB died all of a sudden. Contacted Yuktsi and he replied to me once but hasn't responded since. Dunno what to do, big stupid expensive paperweight I have now.

If they released the PCB files I would literally just have my own made.

Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: clappingcactus on Tue, 29 January 2019, 23:28:49
Yeah my Exent was going fine and then the PCB died all of a sudden. Contacted Yuktsi and he replied to me once but hasn't responded since. Dunno what to do, big stupid expensive paperweight I have now.

If they released the PCB files I would literally just have my own made.

Zeal's Zephyr PCB, of which there are some available on his site right now, fits great!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 30 January 2019, 01:25:13
Yeah my Exent was going fine and then the PCB died all of a sudden. Contacted Yuktsi and he replied to me once but hasn't responded since. Dunno what to do, big stupid expensive paperweight I have now.

If they released the PCB files I would literally just have my own made.

Zeal's Zephyr PCB, of which there are some available on his site right now, fits great!

No kidding? This one: https://zealpc.net/collections/custom-keyboards/products/black-friday-zeal65-rgb-led-pcb ?

Aint cheap but beats a dead exent
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 14 February 2019, 17:12:18
Man, I'm getting pretty bummed about not receiving the spare PCB I requested way back on my original order. After trying them I'm not too fond of the MOD-L switches I soldered on my board, and my past attempts at desoldering tell me that I'm going to butcher this thing if/when I try to remove the switches.

Is that Zeal PCB the only known one that will fit? I'm not too fond of a winkeyless layout. How would I go about adding underglow; that one doesn't have any, right?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marutks on Fri, 15 February 2019, 05:42:17
Zeal65 PCB has RGB LEDs.  Are you sure it fits your exent? 
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tialdo on Fri, 15 February 2019, 07:23:55
Just have an Idea about wrist rest for exent, how do you guys think? ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/mBgvtj0.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 15 February 2019, 08:13:27
Zeal65 PCB has RGB LEDs.  Are you sure it fits your exent?

According to someone above it fits, yep. It only has per-key LEDs, right? No LEDs under the PCB for underglow? That's what I'm looking for, is PCB underglow.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Fri, 15 February 2019, 12:20:54
Also would like confirmation about the Zeal PCB before dropping $90+S/H
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Marutks on Fri, 15 February 2019, 14:36:15
According to someone above it fits, yep. It only has per-key LEDs, right? No LEDs under the PCB for underglow? That's what I'm looking for, is PCB underglow.

Those LEDs are under PCB and they are very bright. I am sure Zeal's PCB would have similar underglow effect.
(  https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/Zeal65_PCB3.jpg  )
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Fri, 15 February 2019, 18:58:40
According to someone above it fits, yep. It only has per-key LEDs, right? No LEDs under the PCB for underglow? That's what I'm looking for, is PCB underglow.

Those LEDs are under PCB and they are very bright. I am sure Zeal's PCB would have similar underglow effect.
(  https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/Zeal65_PCB3.jpg  )

Those are per switch leds, not under lighting. The photo is looking at the bottom of the pcb, and the bottom of the leds
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dubious on Fri, 15 February 2019, 19:01:41
Zeal65 PCB has RGB LEDs.  Are you sure it fits your exent?

According to someone above it fits, yep. It only has per-key LEDs, right? No LEDs under the PCB for underglow? That's what I'm looking for, is PCB underglow.
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this lad added underglow LEDs to his zeal60
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: codywanks on Sat, 16 February 2019, 00:05:27
...
I told Yuktsi that all i wanted was a complete kit and that i was willing to put extra money to cover for shipping/manufacturing of a polycarbonate bottom just so that i could get one.

...
So who do i have to talk to so i can find out more about replacement bottoms or if that is happening at all anymore?

As for who you have to talk to, Yuktsi would be your only hope. You could try getting a hold of codywanks but I doubt he's still involved with this group by.

Sorry m8.

Last time I was there, the only PC bottoms I saw were either cracked or warped to the point they wouldn't fit the top case.

I am waiting for a replacement run to happen as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Sat, 23 February 2019, 12:23:09
Just have an Idea about wrist rest for exent, how do you guys think? ;D
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/mBgvtj0.jpg)



cool idea, but I need something more minimal design on my desk.
I think just the 'X' logo, smaller, in the center or on the left side - would be perfect.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: six_chains on Sat, 09 March 2019, 09:08:49
updated with sage waves:


(https://i.imgur.com/OKTYhbHh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/krfWnohh.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 09 March 2019, 10:40:32
updated with sage waves:

...

That looks really good man. Nice and clean but still has personality. I really miss my Exent; I recently tried to desolder the switches on mine and mangled a pad to the point that it doesn't work. Learning how to bridge connections is going to be fun...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Mon, 11 March 2019, 11:39:02
Anybody else still waiting? I've never pm'd Yuktsi about it, just gone with the assumption it will show up when it shows up. Maybe it would be wise to do so =S
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: h3xadat on Mon, 11 March 2019, 12:18:09
Anybody else still waiting? I've never pm'd Yuktsi about it, just gone with the assumption it will show up when it shows up. Maybe it would be wise to do so =S

Yes, I'm also waiting for my two orders to come in. I've pm'd Yuktsi on Feb 1st and she replied on Feb 11th, that she could most likely have my order fulfilled the same week. I haven't heard from her since.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Mon, 11 March 2019, 12:56:51
Anybody else still waiting? I've never pm'd Yuktsi about it, just gone with the assumption it will show up when it shows up. Maybe it would be wise to do so =S

Yes, I'm also waiting for my two orders to come in. I've pm'd Yuktsi on Feb 1st and she replied on Feb 11th, that she could most likely have my order fulfilled the same week. I haven't heard from her since.

Ok that's slightly reassuring haha. Not that it matters but I'm pretty sure Yuktsi is male, hopefully we won't have to wait too much longer!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: h3xadat on Mon, 11 March 2019, 13:05:13
Anybody else still waiting? I've never pm'd Yuktsi about it, just gone with the assumption it will show up when it shows up. Maybe it would be wise to do so =S

Yes, I'm also waiting for my two orders to come in. I've pm'd Yuktsi on Feb 1st and she replied on Feb 11th, that she could most likely have my order fulfilled the same week. I haven't heard from her since.

Ok that's slightly reassuring haha. Not that it matters but I'm pretty sure Yuktsi is male, hopefully we won't have to wait too much longer!

I hope my mistake doesn't matter.  That was not meant to be disrespectful.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: U47 on Tue, 12 March 2019, 01:25:16
Anybody else still waiting? I've never pm'd Yuktsi about it, just gone with the assumption it will show up when it shows up. Maybe it would be wise to do so =S

Still waiting. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if I ever see anything. The closer to the end you are, the higher the likelihood of any of money, parts, or manpower being exhausted.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Tue, 12 March 2019, 12:16:40
Anybody else still waiting? I've never pm'd Yuktsi about it, just gone with the assumption it will show up when it shows up. Maybe it would be wise to do so =S

Still waiting. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if I ever see anything. The closer to the end you are, the higher the likelihood of any of money, parts, or manpower being exhausted.

Unfortunately very true =[
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: trimetric on Tue, 12 March 2019, 13:44:28
Yep, I'm still waiting on my kit as well.   :-X
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: U47 on Wed, 13 March 2019, 10:52:56
I believe the only ones still not fulfilled are international orders, but I could be wrong on that.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: trimetric on Wed, 13 March 2019, 20:40:13
I'm in Washington state in the US, does that count as international for this GB?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: alexfry on Tue, 09 April 2019, 03:12:38
Well...

Mine was sent to the billing address (which has long since changed), not the shipping address (which hasn’t changed since I placed the order).

It was sent with no warning or notification, then returned to the shipping depot, then returned to the sender, then “DESTROYED”.

It’s been over 4 weeks since my last reply from yuksi.

I’ll be honest, I’m starting to lose the faith a bit.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Helldrop on Wed, 10 April 2019, 04:41:32
My bottom has had some cracks, so I’m looking for either PC or Alu bottom. 
If anyone has an extra, hit me up pls.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Tue, 14 May 2019, 14:50:31
Just checking in if any more have been received recently? Not expecting anything obviously
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: gbgwang on Tue, 14 May 2019, 18:55:09
Do you have a third groupbuy plan in 2019
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Tue, 14 May 2019, 19:08:26
Just checking in if any more have been received recently? Not expecting anything obviously

I reached out to yuktsi and he found and shipped my boards. Tracking has been showing that it's currently awaiting shipment, might be tied up with all the Jane v2/CE stuff right now.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Wed, 15 May 2019, 08:02:51
=O that's a pleasant surprise. I hadn't bothered contacting yuktsi yet as I just assumed he will get round to it when he gets round to it. Yeh I imagine Jane is taking up the bulk of his time, sounds like it may be worth dropping him a message to set things in motion though.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: U47 on Wed, 15 May 2019, 15:16:50
it may be worth dropping him a message to set things in motion though.
Let us know if you get any traction.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fuzzbomb on Mon, 27 May 2019, 11:55:32
I've decided to sell my built pink Exent. Posted on /r/mm but thought I'd mention it here.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 25 June 2019, 12:44:10
Is there any way for me to get a new pcb for this thing? Mine died, and the zeal 65 pcbs are gone.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Tue, 25 June 2019, 13:29:54
I could use a new PCB too. I'm currently about 1/3 through desoldering switches on mine and have already mangled a pad. I figured I'd make a rookie mistake like that, which is why I bought two PCBs when I placed my Exent order, but they only shipped me one. I know there was a fanmade ortholinear PCB in the works, but I haven't heard any news of that in nearly ten months so I assume that project is dead.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Sat, 29 June 2019, 02:43:26
Just checking in if any more have been received recently? Not expecting anything obviously

still waiting on mine, looking forward to it, have built a couple for people and its a cool little board in person
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Fri, 19 July 2019, 09:07:43
it may be worth dropping him a message to set things in motion though.
Let us know if you get any traction.

I forgot to message him but I'll do so now and let you know if I hear anything.

Just checking in if any more have been received recently? Not expecting anything obviously

still waiting on mine, looking forward to it, have built a couple for people and its a cool little board in person

Yeh, I think I'll be pleasantly surprised if/when it comes. Apparently the ano is v.nice
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: nephlock on Sat, 20 July 2019, 22:59:24
does anyone happen to have the plate files for this board? looking to get an extra made
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: EMC Labs on Sat, 20 July 2019, 23:47:54
does anyone happen to have the plate files for this board? looking to get an extra made

Out of curiosity, how would you go about getting an extra made?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: nephlock on Sun, 21 July 2019, 00:08:14
does anyone happen to have the plate files for this board? looking to get an extra made

Out of curiosity, how would you go about getting an extra made?

there are a few companies that will laser cut a plate from (laserboost, etc.). I'd like to try and find a place that can do a polycarb plate, but worst case scenario an easy option is to laser cut it out of acrylic.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Mekuno on Mon, 22 July 2019, 10:42:32
does anyone happen to have the plate files for this board? looking to get an extra made

Out of curiosity, how would you go about getting an extra made?

there are a few companies that will laser cut a plate from (laserboost, etc.). I'd like to try and find a place that can do a polycarb plate, but worst case scenario an easy option is to laser cut it out of acrylic.

I see you picked up an exent, it's one of my fav boards and very underrated. Let me know if you also find the plate file as I want to try to make a PC plate as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 22 July 2019, 11:20:14
does anyone happen to have the plate files for this board? looking to get an extra made

...Let me know if you also find the plate file as I want to try to make a PC plate as well.

It might be a long shot, but you could try messaging RAMA and see if he'll share. Considering how much of a mess this GB has been maybe he'll be nice and give a file so we can get a few made. Juahenza probably has the file too but I'm sure we won't be able to contact him. Yuktsi is also an option but I doubt he has any files and he seems to be pretty hit-or-miss on replies, judging by what I've seen here.

Is there a way to "scan" and existing plate and recreate a file? I plan to desolder my board to make some modifications, so I could have my plate scanned then if such a thing exists. It'll be a few months before I finish desoldering my board though.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: EMC Labs on Tue, 23 July 2019, 02:52:14
does anyone happen to have the plate files for this board? looking to get an extra made

Out of curiosity, how would you go about getting an extra made?

there are a few companies that will laser cut a plate from (laserboost, etc.). I'd like to try and find a place that can do a polycarb plate, but worst case scenario an easy option is to laser cut it out of acrylic.

Oh, okay. Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: nephlock on Tue, 23 July 2019, 11:01:01
I was able to get in contact with Yuktsi and obtain both the plate and PCB files. He's given me permission to spread the love!

I've uploaded them HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=10dR0coUPPz5DcqTqRSKtpWTKO_aVR_pe)

PCB thickness is 1.6mm
Plate is 1.5mm
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Mekuno on Tue, 23 July 2019, 11:29:56
I was able to get in contact with Yuktsi and obtain both the plate and PCB files. He's given me permission to spread the love!

I've uploaded them HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=10dR0coUPPz5DcqTqRSKtpWTKO_aVR_pe)

PCB thickness is 1.6mm
Plate is 1.5mm

NOICE! Now I can have myself a new plate :)

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: nephlock on Tue, 23 July 2019, 11:32:39
I was able to get in contact with Yuktsi and obtain both the plate and PCB files. He's given me permission to spread the love!

I've uploaded them HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=10dR0coUPPz5DcqTqRSKtpWTKO_aVR_pe)

PCB thickness is 1.6mm
Plate is 1.5mm

NOICE! Now I can have myself a new plate :)

Thanks!

Of course! Im trying to find somewhere to get a Polycarb plate cut for mine. If i happen to find one i may do a quick little GB for them if anybody is interested
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Mekuno on Tue, 23 July 2019, 11:36:29
I was able to get in contact with Yuktsi and obtain both the plate and PCB files. He's given me permission to spread the love!

I've uploaded them HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=10dR0coUPPz5DcqTqRSKtpWTKO_aVR_pe)

PCB thickness is 1.6mm
Plate is 1.5mm

NOICE! Now I can have myself a new plate :)

Thanks!

Of course! Im trying to find somewhere to get a Polycarb plate cut for mine. If i happen to find one i may do a quick little GB for them if anybody is interested

Yeah I am currently looking out a solution for one as well, Let me know the details if you find anything about PC plate  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 23 July 2019, 13:41:57
I was able to get in contact with Yuktsi and obtain both the plate and PCB files. He's given me permission to spread the love!

I've uploaded them HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=10dR0coUPPz5DcqTqRSKtpWTKO_aVR_pe)

PCB thickness is 1.6mm
Plate is 1.5mm

The PCB file appears almost entirely useless, i.e. it doesn't seem possible for us to get a PCB made from the provided DWG file. Can we get Yuktsi to give us the complete PCB project files so that we can have our own made?

I'd love this, because currently my exent has been sitting dead in the water for the past 8 months because the PCB up and died totally randomly.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 02 August 2019, 02:15:00
I was able to get in contact with Yuktsi and obtain both the plate and PCB files. He's given me permission to spread the love!

I've uploaded them HERE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=10dR0coUPPz5DcqTqRSKtpWTKO_aVR_pe)

PCB thickness is 1.6mm
Plate is 1.5mm

NOICE! Now I can have myself a new plate :)

Thanks!

Of course! Im trying to find somewhere to get a Polycarb plate cut for mine. If i happen to find one i may do a quick little GB for them if anybody is interested
Would be interested in PC plate
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 02 August 2019, 08:49:01
Also keen on PC plate. Then I'd just need a new PCB.  :blank:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:13:37
I'd be also *very* interested to get the project files for PCB and also willing to put my money where my mouth is and finance the production of another batch.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:16:45
I'd be also *very* interested to get the project files for PCB and also willing to put my money where my mouth is and finance the production of another batch.

Same. I'd certainly chip in if someone wanted to do a GB.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Tue, 06 August 2019, 15:27:11
I've been seeing TGR-910s being used with EXENT-branded PCBs. It seems the EXENT's fits the 910. I'd wager that the inverse is also true!

An interest check for 910 PCBs just went up. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101897.msg2794761.msg#2794761
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Wed, 07 August 2019, 06:45:15
I've been seeing TGR-910s being used with EXENT-branded PCBs. It seems the EXENT's fits the 910. I'd wager that the inverse is also true!

An interest check for 910 PCBs just went up. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101897.msg2794761.msg#2794761

Thanks for the heads up! Too bad it does not support split space but I may go for it just as a backup.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 08 August 2019, 12:52:21
For anyone else picking that PCB up, what do you guys plan to do about this notch? The plate beneath will be empty, so the PCB will be visible unless you slap some kind of sticker on the plate or something. Pretty sure the TGR-910 plate won't fit in the Exent, right?

(https://i.imgur.com/R1x56Jl.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 08 August 2019, 13:00:25
For anyone else picking that PCB up, what do you guys plan to do about this notch? The plate beneath will be empty, so the PCB will be visible unless you slap some kind of sticker on the plate or something. Pretty sure the TGR-910 plate won't fit in the Exent, right?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/R1x56Jl.png)


Yeah, it looks like EXENT users may be out of luck due to (1) the upper right corner blocker, (2) the 0.5u blocker next to the arrows.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 08 August 2019, 14:15:39
It shouldn't be hard to get a fake key or something for that upper right blocker. But that 0.5u blocker next to the arrow keys will definitely take some creativity to overcome, yep.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Thu, 15 August 2019, 13:46:46
Folks,

At this point I am seriously considering resorting to one of the PCB reverse engineering services to generate the data required for production of clones, so to say. I am sure it will not be cheap, but I am willing to give it a shot as I've had some experience with it in the past. What I need though is an existing PCB from someone, ideally a non working one but one that did work at some point (as we don't want to recreate PCB from the one with the manufacturing defect), so component failure is preferred. I wouldn't want to sacrifice a working one but it it comes to that I will - mine. If anyone has a non working one to donate I would repay by exchanging it for a new working one if we ever reach a production run.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 15 August 2019, 13:53:50
Is EXENT the only 65% PCB that supports the GOAT 1.5, 1, 1.5, 7, 1.5, 1, 1.5, 1 bottom row?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 15 August 2019, 15:13:37
Folks,

At this point I am seriously considering resorting to one of the PCB reverse engineering services to generate the data required for production of clones, so to say. I am sure it will not be cheap, but I am willing to give it a shot as I've had some experience with it in the past. What I need though is an existing PCB from someone, ideally a non working one but one that did work at some point (as we don't want to recreate PCB from the one with the manufacturing defect), so component failure is preferred. I wouldn't want to sacrifice a working one but it it comes to that I will - mine. If anyone has a non working one to donate I would repay by exchanging it for a new working one if we ever reach a production run.

You might want to try reaching out to PancakeMSTR (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62185). His PCB used to work, but it's dead now.

Let me know how that reverse-engineering project goes, especially if it's something you're going to be doing soon. I'm assuming you've taken a look at the PCB files Yuktsi shared with nephlock? My PCB is mostly functional but it's not in the greatest of shape and I'd really love a spare or two.

Would your version be running QMK or bootmapper? Any chance of underglow LEDs?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Thu, 15 August 2019, 15:33:50
You might want to try reaching out to PancakeMSTR (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62185). His PCB used to work, but it's dead now.

Let me know how that reverse-engineering project goes, especially if it's something you're going to be doing soon. I'm assuming you've taken a look at the PCB files Yuktsi shared with nephlock? My PCB is mostly functional but it's not in the greatest of shape and I'd really love a spare or two.

Would your version be running QMK or bootmapper? Any chance of underglow LEDs?

Thanks for the tip, I will try to get in touch with PancakeMSTR. I am planning to move on with it as soon as I get the suitable PCB in my hands. PCB files shared previously are useless for this purpose as someone already noticed. I am not planning any changes to the original design, it will be 1:1 copy, but once I get all the files from the physical PCB and that should include circuit layers, netlist and schematic I will share them with the community for everyone to use them as they please.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Fri, 16 August 2019, 00:41:17
You might want to try reaching out to PancakeMSTR (https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62185). His PCB used to work, but it's dead now.

Let me know how that reverse-engineering project goes, especially if it's something you're going to be doing soon. I'm assuming you've taken a look at the PCB files Yuktsi shared with nephlock? My PCB is mostly functional but it's not in the greatest of shape and I'd really love a spare or two.

Would your version be running QMK or bootmapper? Any chance of underglow LEDs?

Thanks for the tip, I will try to get in touch with PancakeMSTR. I am planning to move on with it as soon as I get the suitable PCB in my hands. PCB files shared previously are useless for this purpose as someone already noticed. I am not planning any changes to the original design, it will be 1:1 copy, but once I get all the files from the physical PCB and that should include circuit layers, netlist and schematic I will share them with the community for everyone to use them as they please.

It's yours. Send me your details and I'll send it to you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Fri, 16 August 2019, 00:48:25
It's yours. Send me your details and I'll send it to you.

Fantastic news! :) I'll get in touch via PM.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: quadcube on Fri, 16 August 2019, 23:01:56
I'd be also *very* interested to get the project files for PCB and also willing to put my money where my mouth is and finance the production of another batch.

Same. I'd certainly chip in if someone wanted to do a GB.

I'd be also *very* interested to get the project files for PCB and also willing to put my money where my mouth is and finance the production of another batch.
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.

I've been seeing TGR-910s being used with EXENT-branded PCBs. It seems the EXENT's fits the 910. I'd wager that the inverse is also true!

An interest check for 910 PCBs just went up. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101897.msg2794761.msg#2794761

Yeap, Exent and 910 share the exact design (electrical and mechanical layout).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: quadcube on Fri, 16 August 2019, 23:39:30
My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?

My W,S,Z, and L Alt keys have stopped working on my Exent for no apparent reason. Anyone have any advice on how to fix?

You might want to check your microcontroller and see if all of the connections look good. Several people have had issues with the microcontroller not being soldered very well. Here is a helpful place to start. (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.msg2618445#msg2618445) It's a comment containing a diagram of the microcontroller pins, and some of the following comments contain details of what other people have had to do.

I'm not very familiar with troubleshooting stuff like this, so sorry that I can't be of more help. But hopefully that will get you started and maybe someone smarter than me can chime in.


Doesn't seem to be the issue.


I had this issue on a previous keyboard (not an Exent), and the problem was that a slightly misaligned diode needed to be resoldered. When I was looking at the diodes it wasn't very obvious at all, as the misalignment was very minor, so I felt like I was guessing. Turned out to be right.

I'm wondering if I have a blown diode or something. All my diodes look good, though.

I've been tracing leads (checking continuity), and I've attached an image of what I've come up with so far. Can anyone tell me where the path should go next (from the question mark)?

BTW green indicates good continuity, while red indicates no continuity.
The red line right the question mark on the top left, they are on different row (row3, row4). but if the red line that you traced out (row3) to the via (row3) isn't present, then there's a problem.
if row3's signal is missing, you should lose "2", "W", "S", "Z", "L Alt" and the 2nd key from top of the last row on the right (from top view).
if you lost all the key as mentioned above, then there's a problem with that row. but if u lost just  "2", "W", "S", "Z", "L Alt" , then the fix is simple
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Sat, 17 August 2019, 00:38:53
Hey quadcube, thanks for chiming in! Last night I sent you a PM on that other site, hope you have seen it. Let me know what you think.

I think there are quite a few people interested in extra boards and/or improving it, including me.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: BunnyLake on Tue, 20 August 2019, 16:15:06
how is this getting on yuksi, still super excited to get this board, thanks for all the hard work
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Hedgey on Thu, 12 September 2019, 09:50:50
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.

Did you ever end up thinking about this?  I'm interested in 2 PCBs at least, especially if they'd be QMK and NOT BMC
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Thu, 12 September 2019, 14:31:43
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.

Also very interested in this
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Hedgey on Fri, 13 September 2019, 08:25:22
Also if anyone has an extra bottom in either PC or Aluminum (Blue or Black) I'm highly interested in buying it from you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Katanadog on Fri, 04 October 2019, 01:09:51
I have a good pc bottom! PM me and I'll get some pictures taken.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: quadcube on Mon, 07 October 2019, 02:21:03
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.

Did you ever end up thinking about this?  I'm interested in 2 PCBs at least, especially if they'd be QMK and NOT BMC

I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.

Also very interested in this

trying to make a small run of 20 units of the PCB (direct replacements for EXENT and 910), just have to figure out how can I start a GB on GH.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Mon, 07 October 2019, 08:07:26
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.

Did you ever end up thinking about this?  I'm interested in 2 PCBs at least, especially if they'd be QMK and NOT BMC

I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.

Also very interested in this

trying to make a small run of 20 units of the PCB (direct replacements for EXENT and 910), just have to figure out how can I start a GB on GH.

Great to hear! I'd also love to join in on this if still possible.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Mon, 07 October 2019, 09:37:43
I'd also like to get a new pcb as mine is dead
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: alexfry on Mon, 07 October 2019, 13:46:04
Definitely in x2
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: merlin64 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 13:28:35
Folks, I'll be porting the Exent into QMK tonight 10/08/19

Join in at roughly 7:30 PM PST on https://www.twitch.tv/mechmerlin and hang out =)

Special thanks to Carcha for letting me borrow his Exent.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 08 October 2019, 13:49:14
Folks, I'll be porting the Exent into QMK tonight 10/08/19

Join in at roughly 7:30 PM PST on https://www.twitch.tv/mechmerlin and hang out =)

Sweet! Will definitely be curious about this one.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: merlin64 on Wed, 09 October 2019, 12:36:55
The port is successful and is now available on QMK Configurator

https://config.qmk.fm/#/exent/LAYOUT_65_ansi

Pls report back any problems/issues/comments you may have!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Wed, 09 October 2019, 21:55:55
Thanks for that merlin, legit awesome.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: quadcube on Sat, 12 October 2019, 01:41:38
I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.

Did you ever end up thinking about this?  I'm interested in 2 PCBs at least, especially if they'd be QMK and NOT BMC

I'd also like to get a new pcb as mine is dead

I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.

Did you ever end up thinking about this?  I'm interested in 2 PCBs at least, especially if they'd be QMK and NOT BMC

I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.

Also very interested in this

trying to make a small run of 20 units of the PCB (direct replacements for EXENT and 910), just have to figure out how can I start a GB on GH.

Great to hear! I'd also love to join in on this if still possible.

I can run a small batch if you need it. might take a week or two though as I need to troubleshoot my own Exent PCB, accidentally "killed" it when I was doing some routine cleaning. I checked the power side and it is fine but I need to find out why the MCU failed to initialize, worst case changing the MCU and XTAL. Do let me know how your board failed, it may be a trivial fix in most cases.

Also very interested in this

GB is posted, awaiting mod's approval
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Mon, 14 October 2019, 12:25:31
The port is successful and is now available on QMK Configurator

https://config.qmk.fm/#/exent/LAYOUT_65_ansi

Pls report back any problems/issues/comments you may have!

Thanks mechmerlin, you're a star!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Sun, 02 February 2020, 11:23:06
So my kit arrived mid house move and I’ve only just got round to properly checking. Turns out there’s no screws in the box!  :'(

Could someone let me know the screw type/length that secures  the base to the case, and also the foot to the base?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: xondat on Sun, 02 February 2020, 12:35:24
So my kit arrived mid house move and I’ve only just got round to properly checking. Turns out there’s no screws in the box!  :'(

Could someone let me know the screw type/length that secures  the base to the case, and also the foot to the base?

This might help. Search "screws" as it's been talked about quite a bit :)

Mine didn't come with any screws. Does anyone know the screw suzey/length required to attach top and bottom piece?

Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Poly to casing: M3 x 15mm socket head screw
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: eddible on Mon, 03 February 2020, 13:07:18
So my kit arrived mid house move and I’ve only just got round to properly checking. Turns out there’s no screws in the box!  :'(

Could someone let me know the screw type/length that secures  the base to the case, and also the foot to the base?

This might help. Search "screws" as it's been talked about quite a bit :)

Mine didn't come with any screws. Does anyone know the screw suzey/length required to attach top and bottom piece?

Weight/foot to poly: M3 x 8mm cap screw
Poly to casing: M3 x 15mm socket head screw
Ah, thanks so much!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 19 February 2020, 09:57:30
Would anyone be willing to part with one of these keyboards?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: U47 on Thu, 05 March 2020, 16:07:51
Would anyone be willing to part with one of these keyboards?
If I ever receive mine, I'll keep you in mind.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 05 March 2020, 18:36:32
Would anyone be willing to part with one of these keyboards?
If I ever receive mine, I'll keep you in mind.

Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: child on Fri, 06 March 2020, 15:11:21
Would anyone be willing to part with one of these keyboards?
If I ever receive mine, I'll keep you in mind.

Thank you.

Well, I'm not completely sure he was serious, so don't hold your breath ;)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Tue, 17 March 2020, 23:34:49
Anyone in need of some extra plates? I will get some made for myself but if there is interest I can do a few extras. Aluminium/steel, optional powder coating, price should be in $25 range.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 18 March 2020, 00:38:26
Anyone in need of some extra plates? I will get some made for myself but if there is interest I can do a few extras. Aluminium/steel, optional powder coating, price should be in $25 range.

For that price, I may be interested in a full aluminum plate. Black, grey, silver or red anodizing is fine. Where are you located?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 18 March 2020, 09:50:47
Anyone in need of some extra plates? I will get some made for myself but if there is interest I can do a few extras. Aluminium/steel, optional powder coating, price should be in $25 range.

Price is attractive, I'd be keen for an aluminium one. I meant to get a PCB when the latest GB ran for that but forgot to, oh well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Wed, 18 March 2020, 12:17:43
To clarify, no anodizing on aluminum I am afraid. :(. They only offer powder coating but not sure if that would work on the plate. Tomorrow I am going to visit them for a sample to check if the tolerances and workmanship are acceptable, so more details to follow. Shipping would be from EU.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Wed, 18 March 2020, 14:50:42
Please, keep us updated with the plate and your next steps. I'm in EU as well and I could be interested for that price if the result is good.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: nephlock on Wed, 18 March 2020, 15:09:21
Anyone in need of some extra plates? I will get some made for myself but if there is interest I can do a few extras. Aluminium/steel, optional powder coating, price should be in $25 range.

Price is attractive, I'd be keen for an aluminium one. I meant to get a PCB when the latest GB ran for that but forgot to, oh well.
You should be able to get one exclusives E6.5 pcbs (he’s currently running an order for them). It should fit the exent with a small widening of the base to allow for USB-C
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Fri, 20 March 2020, 08:26:26
A quick update - visited the shop yesterday, they appear more than capable of pulling this off. Good news is that I can actually get the aluminum ones anodized but that will increase the price by a few bucks. I will probably get 10 made, and and get them anodized in black. If someone wants them untreated, let me know. Pics in a few days. Final price to be determined but I expect it to be in $20-$25 range.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 22 March 2020, 07:20:32
A quick update - visited the shop yesterday, they appear more than capable of pulling this off. Good news is that I can actually get the aluminum ones anodized but that will increase the price by a few bucks. I will probably get 10 made, and and get them anodized in black. If someone wants them untreated, let me know. Pics in a few days. Final price to be determined but I expect it to be in $20-$25 range.
I'd probably nab one, but how much is shipping from your location to the US?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Sun, 22 March 2020, 08:27:22
Well, it would be whatever the actual cost is, $10 at most. Not a fan of the fact that shipping is 1/2 of the item price, so if no one is in a hurry I usually ask a colleague or a friend who happens to be traveling to US to bring it over.

I was supposed to get the sample today but his corona thing is messing things up, I am about the check for the status. I suggest whoever is interested to PM me so we don't clutter this thread (?).
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fruitofconfusion on Sat, 04 April 2020, 01:42:53
Folks, I'll be porting the Exent into QMK tonight 10/08/19

Join in at roughly 7:30 PM PST on https://www.twitch.tv/mechmerlin and hang out =)

Special thanks to Carcha for letting me borrow his Exent.

Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but is that bottom row configuation supported on the Exent? From what I can tell, there are only ever two keys to the left of the arrow cluster before the space bar. Is there a way to modify the layout on QMK for this?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Sat, 04 April 2020, 05:19:28
Yes, it is supported.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fruitofconfusion on Fri, 10 April 2020, 19:32:24
So I tested my board before soldering via bridging contacts, and all the keys worked. Now I've soldered it and everything except for backspace, pipe, enter, up arrow, and right arrow work. Occasionally when I reflash the board, it will act like right up and enter are all being held down. I've tried reflowing the joints, but given that it's all keys in the same column, i'm wondering if there's an MCU issue. I've checked and no SMD parts are lifted or missing, and I added electrical tape beneath stabilizer screws to make sure nothing is being bridged.

Any ideas?

In addition, when I replug the board, it doesn't immediately register, and I have to go through the 'firm up' step of Catweewee's instructions each time I plug the board back in.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Fri, 10 April 2020, 20:26:46
i'm wondering if there's an MCU issue.

I'm a bit of a noob at troubleshooting, but that would be my first guess. The PCB is notorious for having bad MCU soldering. Is it an original PCB, or one that you got in the recent-ish groupby?

If it's a bad solder job around the MCU, it might look like this:

(https://i.imgur.com/Le7lWZB.jpg)

Here's a map of what pins control which part of the board:

(https://i.imgur.com/iGzgGRa.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: fruitofconfusion on Sun, 12 April 2020, 16:33:52
So with the help of discord, I solved this! A stabilizer screw (on backspace) was shorting the entire column to ground. I wonder if other people have experienced this with screw-in stabs.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: loud_asian on Sat, 18 April 2020, 20:35:31
So with the help of discord, I solved this! A stabilizer screw (on backspace) was shorting the entire column to ground. I wonder if other people have experienced this with screw-in stabs.

It’s a common issue with screw ins. The fix is usually a nylon or other non conductive material washer.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Mon, 01 June 2020, 12:12:26
Seeing as I said I'd let people know how I got on and it's been nearly a year since I said that, here is the first yearly update:

(https://i.imgur.com/RdvdNqv.png)

Bit disappointing but not surprising unfortunately

See you all in 2021 for the next update
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Mon, 01 June 2020, 13:44:06
Seeing as I said I'd let people know how I got on and it's been nearly a year since I said that, here is the first yearly update:

You can try to PM codywanks. It's a bit of a long shot but he's had some experience with helping to get the boards out, and tends to have good information when we need it most.

If that doesn't produce any results, after waiting another month or two for a response from yuktsi you might want to consider asking for an update in public places such as yuktsi's GB posts and IC posts. It's kind of a d-ck move, but it might be your only hope of getting a response. And other people deserve to know that it appears yuktsi ghosts some of his customers.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Mon, 01 June 2020, 14:25:57
Seeing as I said I'd let people know how I got on and it's been nearly a year since I said that, here is the first yearly update:

You can try to PM codywanks. It's a bit of a long shot but he's had some experience with helping to get the boards out, and tends to have good information when we need it most.

If that doesn't produce any results, after waiting another month or two for a response from yuktsi you might want to consider asking for an update in public places such as yuktsi's GB posts and IC posts. It's kind of a d-ck move, but it might be your only hope of getting a response. And other people deserve to know that it appears yuktsi ghosts some of his customers.

I think I'll probably just leave it, but thanks for the suggestions. Yeh I'm somewhat reluctant to do that, as you say it is kind of a **** move. It's a bit of a difficult one as it's not just a tgr/yuktsi buy but he seems to be the guy that has the boards/the ability to send them out. My understanding is jua essentially disappeared, rama just helped with the design a bit and originative had the keycaps and may or may not have sent them to yuktsi. I do think it's a bit questionable that yuktsi has had other buys going on whilst people have been waiting a very long time for this (and will probably never receive them), but I don't think it would be fair for him to receive all the blame when he seems to be the only person that stuck around for at least some time and tried to send at least a few out. On the other hand running the other buys could have been necessary in order to get some funds to sort out this mess. I think the reality of the situation is it will just fade away and nobody will really care. I highly doubt spreading the word would have any effect on people buying tgr boards anyway, especially as they are nowadays being sold for obscene aftermarket prices.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: U47 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 21:09:39
Bit disappointing but not surprising unfortunately
I have a nearly identical story. Good communication for a bit, an aramex number provided that never worked, and radio silence since then.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Wed, 17 June 2020, 16:50:04
Bit disappointing but not surprising unfortunately
I have a nearly identical story. Good communication for a bit, an aramex number provided that never worked, and radio silence since then.

Yeh I'm not expecting anything but I'll probably check in once a year or so until I forget
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Wed, 08 July 2020, 13:19:11
It's been over 4 years since this was ran, when are extras available?

 ;D
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Mon, 10 August 2020, 23:54:02
Wow, I actually found one for sale!

Now does anyone out there have any extra bases they are looking to sell?  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Mon, 05 October 2020, 15:15:34
Looks like I am the only one using this thread anymore haha.

Hopelessly posting again to see if anyone has a lead on the plate files?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Mon, 05 October 2020, 15:22:55
Plate files have been posted in this thread. If you fail to find them let me know.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: kohalified on Thu, 22 October 2020, 13:37:22
Can I render my keyset on these?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Thu, 22 October 2020, 14:32:31
Can I render my keyset on these?

Might want to get in touch with RAMA and ask him. He's the one who designed the board as far as I know. The GB runner, juahenza, doesn't check this thread anymore and I'm not sure if yuktsi does either.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: FluffyUnicronz on Sun, 22 November 2020, 14:22:16
Also looking for plate file; previous link is dead.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Sun, 22 November 2020, 15:11:53
Here you go:

http://riba.ml1.net/65-PLATE-01_dimension.dwg
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Thu, 10 December 2020, 03:36:26
If anyone is interested, I'll be making an ortholinear PCB for Exent. IC here:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110120.0
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Havattack on Fri, 11 December 2020, 11:24:22
Do another round! Pretty please...?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: quadcube on Thu, 28 January 2021, 05:22:37
Hey everyone,

I received a couple of PM regarding EXENT PCB availability. Would like to run a smaller batch ~20 PCBs, anyone interested?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 28 January 2021, 14:10:59
Hey everyone,

I received a couple of PM regarding EXENT PCB availability. Would like to run a smaller batch ~20 PCBs, anyone interested?

Interested for sure!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Katanadog on Sun, 07 February 2021, 19:35:15
Hey everyone,

I received a couple of PM regarding EXENT PCB availability. Would like to run a smaller batch ~20 PCBs, anyone interested?

I WOULD LOVE ONE!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: sachin3767 on Mon, 08 February 2021, 16:13:12
Hey everyone,

I received a couple of PM regarding EXENT PCB availability. Would like to run a smaller batch ~20 PCBs, anyone interested?

Interested. Have you made any changes to this PCB since the original run? Would it be directly compatible with QMK?
Been out of the mk loop for a while, so not sure if anythings changed on this front. Thanks
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: quadcube on Sun, 14 February 2021, 19:44:59
Hey everyone,

I received a couple of PM regarding EXENT PCB availability. Would like to run a smaller batch ~20 PCBs, anyone interested?

Interested for sure!

Hey everyone,

I received a couple of PM regarding EXENT PCB availability. Would like to run a smaller batch ~20 PCBs, anyone interested?

I WOULD LOVE ONE!
Updated the first round PCB GB thread.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102878.msg2820655#msg2820655

new GB form is here https://forms.gle/jjrLZ1ch8WMghhRd9
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: quadcube on Sun, 14 February 2021, 19:48:41
Interested. Have you made any changes to this PCB since the original run? Would it be directly compatible with QMK?
Been out of the mk loop for a while, so not sure if anythings changed on this front. Thanks
Nope, haven't made any changes unless the majority prefers certain minor changes. the initial version was compatible with QMK, someone here ported EXENT keyboard to QMK successfully (VIA compatibility too) https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/tgr/910.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rpiguy9907 on Sat, 20 March 2021, 15:33:38
Has anyone tried the hotswap bm68rgb PCB in the Extent? It looks like it is center USB and supports the default ANSI layout.

https://kprepublic.com/products/bm68rgb-bm68-rgb-65-hot-swappable-custom-mechanical-keyboard-pcb-programmed-qmk-via-firmware-full-rgb-switch-underglow-type-c?_pos=28&_sid=2929c55cb&_ss=r

Looks like it is fully supported in QMK and VIA as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Traveler on Sat, 20 March 2021, 17:32:35
Oooh, that's tempting to try. My Mill Max'd Exent PCB is functional but it ain't pretty.

I imagine that the Exent plate wouldn't match the BM68 PCB quite right, but it would be close. The PCB should fit in the case well enough. I guess if you have money to spend and you're feeling brave you could get Kit2, and if the Exent plate doesn't work you could try to get the BM68 plate to fit. And worse case scenario Kit2 is basically a complete board minus stabs and switches.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Sat, 20 March 2021, 23:40:30
It is using USB-C so it won't fit the rear cutout, unless you are willing to modify it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rpiguy9907 on Tue, 30 March 2021, 11:30:02
So Originative just teased Round 2 of Extent on their Facebook page...

Praise be, finally! They better come through on this, lol.

https://imgur.com/gallery/WCkhgKL

(https://imgur.com/gallery/WCkhgKL)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Tue, 30 March 2021, 12:21:10
Well this is....unexpected. Not sure I'd believe based only on this screenshot. Doesn't even mention a year. :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: verity on Tue, 30 March 2021, 13:13:14
Well this is....unexpected. Not sure I'd believe based only on this screenshot. Doesn't even mention a year. :)

They announced it on their Instagram as well.

(https://i.imgur.com/f6eL0a5.png)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Tue, 30 March 2021, 13:24:00
A bold move considering the reputation of the original GB, but I'll definitely keep an eye on this as Exent is what I'm using daily and still wouldn't change it for anything else out there. Hopefully I'll be able to get a spare polycarbonate bottom without cracks at least. Maybe they'll improve on the original design or offer different colours...in any case, very interesting development. Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: U47 on Wed, 31 March 2021, 11:27:25
So Originative just teased Round 2 of Extent on their Facebook page...

Praise be, finally! They better come through on this, lol.

This is just enraging to those of us who received nothing from the original buy.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rmendis on Wed, 31 March 2021, 11:31:45
So Originative just teased Round 2 of Extent on their Facebook page...

Praise be, finally! They better come through on this, lol.

This is just enraging to those of us who received nothing from the original buy.

Quite frankly, I'm not sure why GB runners are even allowed to run new GBs on this site if they haven't fulfilled their commitments from previous GBs. At the very least, there should be a warning on GBs when previous ones did not complete.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Wed, 31 March 2021, 11:39:07
In principle I agree with you, but the first GB was not run by Originative. I guess they secured the rights to (re)use the design. I guess we will find out more as time passes, maybe it will not happen at all at the end....just as the first GB didn't for some people sadly.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: udller on Wed, 31 March 2021, 19:24:08
i bought an exent of originative like last year, they teased it then when the sold the extra gmk exent keycaps.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 31 March 2021, 20:11:07
In principle I agree with you, but the first GB was not run by Originative. I guess they secured the rights to (re)use the design. I guess we will find out more as time passes, maybe it will not happen at all at the end....just as the first GB didn't for some people sadly.

Pretty sure this isn't a "reused design". This is all the units they picked up when the GB literally fell apart years ago, and that they've had sitting in storage for years for their supposed major "TypeMachina" release and opening.

Good chances these will be quite marked up, just like the Jane v1.5s they sold recently.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: U47 on Thu, 01 April 2021, 14:00:27
Pretty sure this isn't a "reused design". This is all the units they picked up when the GB literally fell apart years ago, and that they've had sitting in storage for years for their supposed major "TypeMachina" release and opening.

Good chances these will be quite marked up, just like the Jane v1.5s they sold recently.

If this is indeed the case, they should be ashamed. They slapped their name and advertised all over the original buy. They are complicit. If they are now selling units that were bought and paid for by others, that's completely unacceptable.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 01 April 2021, 14:08:16
Pretty sure this isn't a "reused design". This is all the units they picked up when the GB literally fell apart years ago, and that they've had sitting in storage for years for their supposed major "TypeMachina" release and opening.

Good chances these will be quite marked up, just like the Jane v1.5s they sold recently.

If this is indeed the case, they should be ashamed. They slapped their name and advertised all over the original buy. They are complicit. If they are now selling units that were bought and paid for by others, that's completely unacceptable.

I doubt that's the case, also. They'd be units they purchased as extras to sell under TypeMachina.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: U47 on Fri, 02 April 2021, 16:12:01
I received an email yesterday out of the blue from Yutski saying my order would be shipped right away. Maybe they're cleaning things up in preparation of new production.

Fwiw.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Sat, 03 April 2021, 01:04:57
That's great news, and the only way to handle this properly. Congratulations! :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: JAB on Sun, 25 April 2021, 17:20:00
Hi, I have an Exent kit I'm looking to sell. I received it two years ago and I've kept everything in the box it was shipped in and it's just been sitting, sealed in a closet. It's the premium kit. I can send other details/pictures of the parts. I've become completely disconnected from this world so if someone knows a better place I could look to sell then please let me know.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Mon, 26 April 2021, 00:08:02
Hello - I've sent you a PM. Reddit Mechmarket seems to be the place to buy/sell, but read the rules there before posting. There might be interested people here as well.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: MaNiFeX on Fri, 30 April 2021, 10:54:08
I wouldn't mind getting a second PCB, as the first round were...  not that great.  TARO should really fulfill all previous orders prior to starting a new buy! 

Great board design, just a little bit of a weak execution.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: U47 on Fri, 30 April 2021, 17:03:49
Well, never thought I'd say this, but I have an Exent kit in my hands. Only took a shade over four years. Yea me!

Wrong colour, and no switches, but I have the board, plate, case, and keycaps. At least it doesn't appear dinged up.

I inspected the board a bit to see if it was new production or old production, but I just can't tell. No visible date on the board.

It'll be up on mechmarket shortly.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Riba on Sat, 01 May 2021, 03:19:51
Haha, that's a special one! :) What colour is it at the end? Any cracks on the polycarbonate bottom?

Edit: I saw it was silver with alu bottom, if I knew I would have jumped on it. :)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Tue, 04 May 2021, 20:07:33
Are there more people still waiting on this board to be delivered from GB?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 04 May 2021, 20:22:02
I can't speak for everyone here, but TARO still owes me a PCB and a set of Cherry stabs I paid for and weren't included, and a replacement bottom because mine was cracked out of the box.

I doubt I'll ever get it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 04 May 2021, 21:25:15
I wouldn't mind getting a second PCB, as the first round were...  not that great.  TARO should really fulfill all previous orders prior to starting a new buy! 

Great board design, just a little bit of a weak execution.

there are pcbs on keys.my afaik
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: long_qt_pie on Wed, 05 May 2021, 03:11:21
Might be a longshot but if anyone has the 12 degree feet that theyd be willing to part with, Id be highly interested!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: IRLRaptor on Wed, 05 May 2021, 04:06:50
Dang, very interesting set up.  phew!~
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: arsenic on Wed, 05 May 2021, 15:56:10
Are there more people still waiting on this board to be delivered from GB?


Popping out of the woodwork to say that I am. I have no hope of ever receiving it, but theoretically, I’m still waiting for it.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: U47 on Sun, 09 May 2021, 00:34:59
Popping out of the woodwork to say that I am. I have no hope of ever receiving it, but theoretically, I’m still waiting for it.

Rootin' for you. 🤞
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Wed, 12 May 2021, 09:51:31
Hi all,

The yearly update is arriving slightly early this year with some surprising news. Seeing the recent posts above this I'm sure you can probably guess what it is.

I also received an email from yuktsi about a month ago asking to confirm if my address was still correct, and was told to expect the board in a week. Much to my surprise, a week later I did indeed receive a package from DHL with an Exent inside!

It is a silver top and black bottom piece instead of the black top I ordered, it did have the brass plate however. I also received the Mod M switches and GMK keycaps that I ordered with it, but not the two sets of stabs. No dings or scratches so that was good news too. Whilst it's not quite what I ordered I'm genuinely surprised to have received anything, it's been a bit of a journey with ups and downs but thanks to yuktsi for eventually getting something shipped to me.

(https://i.imgur.com/Whk4lSp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3xEr7eJ.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: DukeEsquire on Wed, 12 May 2021, 10:55:25
Hi all,

The yearly update is arriving slightly early this year with some surprising news. Seeing the recent posts above this I'm sure you can probably guess what it is.

I also received an email from yuktsi about a month ago asking to confirm if my address was still correct, and was told to expect the board in a week. Much to my surprise, a week later I did indeed receive a package from DHL with an Exent inside!

It is a silver top and black bottom piece instead of the black top I ordered, it did have the brass plate however. I also received the Mod M switches and GMK keycaps that I ordered with it, but not the two sets of stabs. No dings or scratches so that was good news too. Whilst it's not quite what I ordered I'm genuinely surprised to have received anything, it's been a bit of a journey with ups and downs but thanks to yuktsi for eventually getting something shipped to me.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Whk4lSp.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3xEr7eJ.jpg)


I know it's not exactly what you ordered, but that colorway looks sick. Congrats man!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: tsolin01 on Tue, 18 May 2021, 18:50:40
 Looks like Originative is doing their sale this Friday: https://www.instagram.com/p/CPBoIEwn4-H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CPBoIEwn4-H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Havattack on Tue, 18 May 2021, 23:57:23
Looks like Originative is doing their sale this Friday: https://www.instagram.com/p/CPBoIEwn4-H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CPBoIEwn4-H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
For the low, low, low price of 700$! LOL! I though it was going to be another GB round, not them selling extras from some ancient GB that finally came in, and charging a crazy amount in order to fix someones screw up.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: elmo on Wed, 19 May 2021, 04:02:51
Looks like Originative is doing their sale this Friday: https://www.instagram.com/p/CPBoIEwn4-H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CPBoIEwn4-H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)

Originative just has to be on crack or something at this point :confused:

First they were selling a years old design for almost $1k (the Jane "1.5") and now they are dropping off extra units of a failed groupbuy for the low price of just $700.
A groupbuy where some people got stuff they never ordered or just never received their boards at all.
Ancient outdated and proven to be pretty bad quality bootmapperclient PCB included.

LMAO!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rpiguy9907 on Wed, 19 May 2021, 22:58:41
It will sell out. Just like the Janes. All they are smoking is profit.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: DukeEsquire on Fri, 04 June 2021, 15:57:48
Anyone get an invoice or response from Typemachina...? Put my order in on day one and nothing...
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: udller on Thu, 10 June 2021, 04:21:43
not yet.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Rarabka233 on Mon, 28 June 2021, 15:28:13
I also wanted to chime in to say that I'm still waiting on my silver premium kit as well.  Is there anyone that those of us who are still waiting may be able to reach out to?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Ahngel on Mon, 28 June 2021, 17:01:48
The type machina exents were new old stock right.  They shipped mine fully assembled 🤣   surprised the PC bottom survived with no cracks
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: RyuDragoon on Fri, 02 July 2021, 14:04:53
Does anyone happen to know the screw sizes for this board?
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Leo66 on Sun, 04 July 2021, 02:48:30
impressive ~
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: energyd on Mon, 05 July 2021, 11:30:58
anyone happen to have a spare pcb for sale? mine had the leds dod for me. have the poly bottom so led kind of important for me
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: arsenic on Fri, 16 July 2021, 14:02:08
Just wanted to follow after my last post for anyone who may still be waiting- after I posted, yuktsi PMed me; cut to a month-ish later, and an Exent arrived on my doorstep- in the correct color (albeit a little dinged up; maybe was a b-stock by the initial wave of shippings standards?) with an intact polycarb bottom and fully-working pcb, and impressively enough, the 'premium' switches and the keyset which I legit forgot I ordered. No stabs, like everyone else mentioned, but of all the things that COULD'VE not arrived, definitely the least important and easily replaceable; if it was that or the screws, I'm glad I got screws!

Finally got around to building it, and of course NOW the PCB is being weird (the matrix for the bottom row is one key off for the arrows)- but that's probably a mistake that can be attributed to me, since when I tested it originally, it was working fine- I'll troubleshoot it or grab another compatible pcb that's a little more current eventually, but mostly I'm just elated that this thing literally exists.

If for any reason you still haven't gotten yours, it might be worth reaching out to yuktsi directly, since they were more than amicable in our interaction and is clearly still trying to make this right where they can.

Here's a potato pic of the build- I was gonna throw Future Funk on it, but I was one of the people who didn't get a 1.75u shift; clearly my GB luck is pretty ****ty.
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Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: Havattack on Sun, 18 July 2021, 12:58:16
anyone happen to have a spare pcb for sale? mine had the leds dod for me. have the poly bottom so led kind of important for me

It might not be that difficult to solder a string of leds to the bottom some how.  Maybe even stick a battery powered led strip in somehow..
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: cricket-alone on Tue, 20 July 2021, 20:34:59
The underglow on this keyboard is awesome!
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: d.caminero on Wed, 25 August 2021, 07:38:36
Very glad to see that people have received their exent, it just took a lil while.
Now I'm wondering if people with cracked bottoms will receive a replacement at some point, but I'm not really hoping anything after so long, and after extras being sold.
Title: Re: [GB]EXENT - 65% made by TARO (In production)
Post by: rpiguy9907 on Tue, 19 March 2024, 11:10:37
I did manage to get a replacement bottom but it still wasn't perfect. The cracks were much less noticeable though.