[Quotes In!] - Aluminum GH60 Case - Anodizing Samples In!

[aggiejy]

That green is going to look good on my desk... just sayin.

[The_Beast]

That green is going to look good on my desk... just sayin.

That green will look good in my pocket... just sayin.

[aggiejy]

Then take it already and get to milling! ;-)

[jdcarpe]

So you're not doing the blockers on the ends to cover the 1.5 at all, HHKB style?

[aggiejy]

Speaking of blockers – I am assuming we'll have the option between an open and WKL top peice, correct?  (As opposed to those little removable blocks.)

[The_Beast]

There will be two tops. One for standard layouts and one with 1u blockers for a 1.5u layout. No HHKB top will be available

Edit: Fixed typo to "two"

[Dubsgalore]

There will be top tops. One for standard layouts and one with 1u blockers for a 1.5u layout. No HHKB top will be available

 

[Tarzan]

That green is... awesome.

[jcrouse]

There will be top tops. One for standard layouts and one with 1u blockers for a 1.5u layout. No HHKB top will be available

 

+1

[The_Beast]

There will be top tops. One for standard layouts and one with 1u blockers for a 1.5u layout. No HHKB top will be available

 

+1

Sorry, I have no interest in a HHKB layout so I didn't design for one. Lets just say that I'm designing the case how I want it, you guys are just along for the ride. Plus I don't have a ton of time to design stuff anymore



BTW I stopped by one of the shops. He said stainless feet/weight plate shouldn't be a problem since 100's of tons of stainless is milled through his shop every year. I did ask about a 100% stainless case, but he said it would be at least 3x as much compared to an aluminum one. I also got a second tour of the shop. I guess he supplies a lot of drilling parts for oil drilling in the upper mid-west. He should have a quote for me sometime next week if he has time for it (I told him I'm not in a huge rush and don't want to be pushy)

The other shop I got a quote from said he should have a quote for me soon (next week, again, told him I'm not in a huge rush)

[mashby]

Sorry, I have no interest in a HHKB layout so I didn't design for one. Lets just say that I'm designing the case how I want it, you guys are just along for the ride. Plus I don't have a ton of time to design stuff anymore

I'm buckled up and ready to roll!

[tricheboars]

Sorry, I have no interest in a HHKB layout so I didn't design for one. Lets just say that I'm designing the case how I want it, you guys are just along for the ride. Plus I don't have a ton of time to design stuff anymore

choo choo mother****er. i dont remember if i am supposed to take the red or the blue pill but i will take whichever one gets me of these beautiful ****ing cases. i take that back. i want 2 cases. lol.

i would really like to see what the inside of those shops is like. how many cases like this can they make in 1 day?

[CPTBadAss]

If it's a typical machine shop, they probably have never done something like this before. I imagine there's 2 laser machines, 5-10 hand mills, and maybe 2-3 CnC mills. I bet they can crank out....5-10 a day? Depends on if they're using CnC or an actual mill.

[The_Beast]

Well the lase shop is different from the two machine shops I'm geting quotes from. I'll ask about taking photos of the production process, but I don't know if they'll let me or if I'll even be in town when they're doing my project

[tricheboars]

If it's a typical machine shop, they probably have never done something like this before. I imagine there's 2 laser machines, 5-10 hand mills, and maybe 2-3 CnC mills. I bet they can crank out....5-10 a day? Depends on if they're using CnC or an actual mill.

only 5-10 a day?  wouldnt that make them insanely expensive?

[The_Beast]

If it's a typical machine shop, they probably have never done something like this before. I imagine there's 2 laser machines, 5-10 hand mills, and maybe 2-3 CnC mills. I bet they can crank out....5-10 a day? Depends on if they're using CnC or an actual mill.

only 5-10 a day?  wouldnt that make them insanely expensive?

I forgot to mentions the tools he showed me in his shop.

Of what I could remember he had at least 3 large CNC with auto tool changers, 2 smaller CNC mills w/o tool changers, a single bridgeport manual mill, 1 large CNC lathe, a small manual lathe, and a lot of other tools I forgot of.

He also had a bar feeder which takes bar stock and shape it, cut it off, advance the rest of the bar and repeat. Feet should be pretty cheap since it can be don't using this method, set and forget for the most part

He also had some really cool drill bits. They had holes in the end flutes that forced lubricant into the hole being drilled


I don't know about the other shop

[CPTBadAss]

Those drill bits w/ the end flutes are so cool. I could spend all day in a shop....and I have XD

[The_Beast]

Those drill bits w/ the end flutes are so cool. I could spend all day in a shop....and I have XD

I've been looking into getting a desktop CNC mill. Then I realized, there's no way I could swing it

[CPTBadAss]

Maker bot!

[The_Beast]

Maker bot!

Print my own CNC mill? lol


I have thought about building my own CNC router before, but everything is so 'sive

[CPTBadAss]

Yeah man. Then you could have an SLA printer AND a mill. Then we take over the world?

And yeah, all the goodies are expensive

[The_Beast]

Yeah man. Then you could have an SLA printer AND a mill. Then we take over the world?

And yeah, all the goodies are expensive

Changeable head could easily be implemented. High speed motor for wood, low speed router for metal and an extruder for 3d printing


You're a clever gurl

[CPTBadAss]

Oooo. You gonna run a GB on that badboy?

[The_Beast]

Oooo. You gonna run a GB on that badboy?

I'm not even going to start this now. I can already see how big of a sink hole it could be for time.

If I have time this summer, I might look into things

[CPTBadAss]

Hahaha, I love how serious you are about this. Let me know what goodies you end up with

[The_Beast]

Hahaha, I love how serious you are about this. Let me know what goodies you end up with

Like I said, I have seriously thought of building a reinforced MDF CNC router for my buddies wood shop shop. The software, stepper motors, stepper drivers are actually the expensive part of it (when I was looking at the MDF router).

Any idea of what table size we'd want? (I'm guessing 18 x 8 x 8 maybe???)

[CPTBadAss]

I have no idea honestly. Big enough to make a TKL case?

[bearcat]

I built a CNC mill because I got tired of waiting for the ergodox.  There's a pretty affordable kit for the shapeoko; only about $300, more with upgrades, electronics, etc.  I've been milling cases out of oak (your favorite) until I can get a pid controller, at which point I'll try aluminum

I've had good luck so far w/ it to prototype my minimal split ergo designs...You should look into it.  The openrail and makerslide extrusion profiles can make some pretty easy & cheap xy tables.

[The_Beast]

I built a CNC mill because I got tired of waiting for the ergodox.  There's a pretty affordable kit for the shapeoko; only about $300, more with upgrades, electronics, etc.  I've been milling cases out of oak (your favorite) until I can get a pid controller, at which point I'll try aluminum

I've had good luck so far w/ it to prototype my minimal split ergo designs...You should look into it.  The openrail and makerslide extrusion profiles can make some pretty easy & cheap xy tables.

You know I hate oak? (I think I've only said that once or twice you stalker, lol)

Post some pictures in off-topic or send me some links! I'd love to see it

[CPTBadAss]

Post pics please bearcat!!

[bearcat]

i made a thread already, probably picked a bad title...  anyway, latest pics are here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40970.msg839111#msg839111;

the right hand is an old iteration, so it's a bit ugly.  I just cut a new one out yesterday to replace it and haven't taken pics.  Also ordered some better caps, those dark grey caps look bad   And of course, now i'm figuring out how to layout a PCB thanks to bpiphany's awesome guides and then i'll have to figure out how to cut that...

Beast, i was researching what other woods/materials people have tried, so naturally i found your opinions on the matter most educational   I forget why you didn't like oak, though?  At the moment, my spindle is pushing through this stuff like butter at 25in/min, so i'm thinking of trying some nice hardwood.  The advantage of a minimal layout is i can cut them out of cheap 1x4 boards  before trying on the nice material.

As for build volume, you probably don't need more than 6x12 workable area if you're going to do a 60% TKL; i plan on expanding the shapeoko to do full size boards eventually...

Any tips or feedback you guys have would be useful!  

[The_Beast]

i made a thread already, probably picked a bad title...  anyway, latest pics are here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40970.msg839111#msg839111;

the right hand is an old iteration, so it's a bit ugly.  I just cut a new one out yesterday to replace it and haven't taken pics.  Also ordered some better caps, those dark grey caps look bad   And of course, now i'm figuring out how to layout a PCB thanks to bpiphany's awesome guides and then i'll have to figure out how to cut that...

Beast, i was researching what other woods/materials people have tried, so naturally i found your opinions on the matter most educational   I forget why you didn't like oak, though?  At the moment, my spindle is pushing through this stuff like butter at 25in/min, so i'm thinking of trying some nice hardwood.  The advantage of a minimal layout is i can cut them out of cheap 1x4 boards  before trying on the nice material.

As for build volume, you probably don't need more than 6x12 workable area if you're going to do a 60% TKL; i plan on expanding the shapeoko to do full size boards eventually...

Any tips or feedback you guys have would be useful!  

I saw it, saw the MDF plate and lost track of the thread. I didn't even check back (did just now tho)

That's great! If you have any other questions feel free to hit me up. I don't like oak since it's a very porous wood and it's never really smooth or even. I'm warming up on quartersawn oak, but plain oak just isn't my thing

[Dubsgalore]

considering switching from hhkb layout to 1.5x ansi winkeyless...

are there going to be different colors available?

and i may have asked this before, but i am confused..but price range?
thanks beast

[The_Beast]

considering switching from hhkb layout to 1.5x ansi winkeyless...

are there going to be different colors available?

and i may have asked this before, but i am confused..but price range?
thanks beast

Those are all the samples I got from the anodizing place I looked at.

No prices since I still haven't got quotes back? If I were to guess, $150-$300, but again, I'm not machinist

[Dubsgalore]

considering switching from hhkb layout to 1.5x ansi winkeyless...

are there going to be different colors available?

and i may have asked this before, but i am confused..but price range?
thanks beast

Those are all the samples I got from the anodizing place I looked at.

No prices since I still haven't got quotes back? If I were to guess, $150-$300, but again, I'm not machinist

Alright cool. I'm starting my summer job back up again this weekend, so those prices don't sound as bad as they did before

and was looking for white like we talked about, but will probably decide now between purple and black...

[LechnerDE]

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This is what I am doing since I placed my GH60 order :D

[CPTBadAss]

Was talking to Beast at the Chicago/Great Lakes meetup this weekend, and he said that he's still waiting on quotes from the shops. Sorry I can't offer any better news but just remember that these shops aren't exactly idle; waiting for our order to come in so they can work. Like GMK and SP, they have a list of order/work they have and they'll get to these cases when they can.

[Dubsgalore]

Was talking to Beast at the Chicago/Great Lakes meetup this weekend, and he said that he's still waiting on quotes from the shops. Sorry I can't offer any better news but just remember that these shops aren't exactly idle; waiting for our order to come in so they can work. Like GMK and SP, they have a list of order/work they have and they'll get to these cases when they can.

are you still getting one? of the beast's or are you going ace?

[CPTBadAss]

Was talking to Beast at the Chicago/Great Lakes meetup this weekend, and he said that he's still waiting on quotes from the shops. Sorry I can't offer any better news but just remember that these shops aren't exactly idle; waiting for our order to come in so they can work. Like GMK and SP, they have a list of order/work they have and they'll get to these cases when they can.

are you still getting one? of the beast's or are you going ace?

I am living up to the wallethack name and getting both.

[Dubsgalore]

Was talking to Beast at the Chicago/Great Lakes meetup this weekend, and he said that he's still waiting on quotes from the shops. Sorry I can't offer any better news but just remember that these shops aren't exactly idle; waiting for our order to come in so they can work. Like GMK and SP, they have a list of order/work they have and they'll get to these cases when they can.

are you still getting one? of the beast's or are you going ace?

I am living up to the wallethack name and getting both.

ah i see
my first case for the gh60 will depend on colors and price for WFD vs The_beast.

and then the second one will probably be an ace if it is low profile, but if these 2 are cheaper...who knows

[CPTBadAss]

Was talking to Beast at the Chicago/Great Lakes meetup this weekend, and he said that he's still waiting on quotes from the shops. Sorry I can't offer any better news but just remember that these shops aren't exactly idle; waiting for our order to come in so they can work. Like GMK and SP, they have a list of order/work they have and they'll get to these cases when they can.

are you still getting one? of the beast's or are you going ace?

I am living up to the wallethack name and getting both.

ah i see
my first case for the gh60 will depend on colors and price for WFD vs The_beast.

and then the second one will probably be an ace if it is low profile, but if these 2 are cheaper...who knows

I believe the Ace low-profile case will be in brass and the normal case will be milled aluminum. But this isn't the thread to talk about this. PM me or head over to that thread

[Dubsgalore]

Was talking to Beast at the Chicago/Great Lakes meetup this weekend, and he said that he's still waiting on quotes from the shops. Sorry I can't offer any better news but just remember that these shops aren't exactly idle; waiting for our order to come in so they can work. Like GMK and SP, they have a list of order/work they have and they'll get to these cases when they can.

are you still getting one? of the beast's or are you going ace?

I am living up to the wallethack name and getting both.

ah i see
my first case for the gh60 will depend on colors and price for WFD vs The_beast.

and then the second one will probably be an ace if it is low profile, but if these 2 are cheaper...who knows

I believe the Ace low-profile case will be in brass and the normal case will be milled aluminum. But this isn't the thread to talk about this. PM me or head over to that thread

i know i saw that. thought i heard that they would still be the same price regardless

[CPTBadAss]

As with this case, I wouldn't trust pricing until I saw the quotes. There's just too many factors that play into the final price.

To give you some perspective, my team at work has dedicated members who literally do pricing/buying all day, everyday. The other engineers and I don't even worry about the pricing because there's just too many factors for us to take care of. I would just wait on everything and not assume anything.

[Acetrak]

I would just wait on everything and not assume anything.

^

[Dubsgalore]

i'm just waiting on a price for each case...

and then colors..

i want to see color options. the first case will be purple. i know the beast's case has purple as an option, and i am waiting on WFD. 

just gotta wait i guess

[mbreslin]

One of each is the correct answer. 

[The_Beast]

Just reminded both shops about my quote, hopefully they have it done and just forgot to send it to me

[CPTBadAss]

Just reminded both shops about my quote, hopefully they have it done and just forgot to send it to me

They better have it done. Or I'm coming to Wisconsin and there's gonna be some 'splainin to do.

[The_Beast]

Just reminded both shops about my quote, hopefully they have it done and just forgot to send it to me

They better have it done. Or I'm coming to Wisconsin and there's gonna be some 'splainin to do.

Get to driving!


"Craig is always busy quoting so I suppose that could be a valid reason at times.  But in this case Craig is worried about machine capacity.  So he chose not to quote, thinking we’d have to say no to the job anyway, based on machine availability/scheduling."

A mill and a lathe should be enough for this case. So this leaves me to one other machine shop before expanding the radius of machine shops I talk too.

[CPTBadAss]

Just reminded both shops about my quote, hopefully they have it done and just forgot to send it to me

They better have it done. Or I'm coming to Wisconsin and there's gonna be some 'splainin to do.

Get to driving!


"Craig is always busy quoting so I suppose that could be a valid reason at times.  But in this case Craig is worried about machine capacity.  So he chose not to quote, thinking we’d have to say no to the job anyway, based on machine availability/scheduling."

A mill and a lathe should be enough for this case. So this leaves me to one other machine shop before expanding the radius of machine shops I talk too.

BRB Wisconsin. I'll bring a baseball bat too. HOW DARE THEY ENRAGE ME