[GB] Phantom-based "Skeleton" Keyboard Kits - GB COMPLETE

[roostrc0gburn]

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom

is the prof. plate also available?
And whats about a 7BIT layout in ISO?
(or can I just "maximize the holes in that area?)

7BIT users will have to work this out collectively. i am not going to make custom plates for every individual, but i can edit the 7BIT layout as the community wants. Still not sure what you mean by 7BIT in ISO layout. can you post a markup?

am I missing something... where does the PCB support LEDs?

not full backlight or underlight - just scroll and caps. My thought is that i could just make them available to order in packs of 100 for separate purchase. I know this is not very clear in the OP, I am still trying to determine cost, colors, availability. At the very least, I will be providing 2 LEDs with each kit.

I have no idea what demand might be like for people ordering just LEDs separately, though. if we can buy in bulk, why not?

[arskaout]

If an or when am international buy is possible i'm definitely in.

[braidn]

Thanks for all the clarifications. IN for a winkeyless ANSI steel set. Did the form disappear btw?

[roostrc0gburn]

Thanks for all the clarifications. IN for a winkeyless ANSI steel set. Did the form disappear btw?

np. got really busy at work and home this week. just need to figure out shipping and i will post the order form.

maybe i can just post it to open up orders, and we can do shipping stuff on the backend? idk, what do people think?

[twiddle]

If international becomes a go I'll be in for a couple kits.

[kebby]

Is the grey Cherry switch option tactile or linear?

[00zeRO]

Is the grey Cherry switch option tactile or linear?

Tactile Grey, since finding Linear Dark Greys in Plate mount is virtually impossible.

[00zeRO]

A little constructive criticism?  I'd unhide the note on plates... in-fact, in your shoes I wouldn't have anything behind a "more" tab, just continue to use excellent formatting as you have throughout the rest of the OP.

And your 7bit layout is missing a key, from between Esc & F1 - any particular reason?  If you do shipping to the UK (no pressure) I could always just cut it out myself.

i think you're right - people seem to be missing a lot of the information... I removed the hidden text from OP.

Regarding the 7BIT layout, the switch hole can be added, yes. I dont know much about the layout - have not done a deep dive into the history. i basically just used the profisist's layout found in the wiki. i did find this old thread, though: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=23839.0
i would love to get more feedback from 7BIT users if we need to develop this layout a little further

I will definitely be a 7BIT user, and I would love to have that extra key between the Esc for total keyboard keyswitch coverage, mwahahahahaha!

[roostrc0gburn]

order for is up! if you have problems making your order, please let me know
sorry it took so long, but i had just a couple more things that popped up last minute

big apology to everyone overseas, it looks like this will not be available for international shipping at this time 
really bummed about this, i wanted to make this available to everyone. hopefully we can make it happen in the future!

[kinglukas38]

order for is up! if you have problems making your order, please let me know
sorry it took so long, but i had just a couple more things that popped up last minute

big apology to everyone overseas, it looks like this will not be available for international shipping at this time 
really bummed about this, i wanted to make this available to everyone. hopefully we can make it happen in the future!

Is that the 1.5ANSI winkeyless plate?

[Ephemeral]

Submitted. Glad to see a kit like this. Good luck, man. 

[roostrc0gburn]

order for is up! if you have problems making your order, please let me know
sorry it took so long, but i had just a couple more things that popped up last minute

big apology to everyone overseas, it looks like this will not be available for international shipping at this time 
really bummed about this, i wanted to make this available to everyone. hopefully we can make it happen in the future!

Is that the 1.5ANSI winkeyless plate?

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yes

[kinglukas38]

order for is up! if you have problems making your order, please let me know
sorry it took so long, but i had just a couple more things that popped up last minute

big apology to everyone overseas, it looks like this will not be available for international shipping at this time 
really bummed about this, i wanted to make this available to everyone. hopefully we can make it happen in the future!

Is that the 1.5ANSI winkeyless plate?

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yes

In  :thumb:

[rotciveel]

So when it says [2] Kit LED, does that mean we get 2 sets of 5 LEDs? And are these LED just for the caps lock/scroll lock keys?

[roostrc0gburn]

So when it says [2] Kit LED, does that mean we get 2 sets of 5 LEDs? And are these LED just for the caps lock/scroll lock keys?

good point - my mistake, OP updated. you will receive 5 LEDs with the kit. yes, those are for scroll and caps (+1 extra, just because). you can also buy packs of 100 LEDs separately

[rotciveel]

So when it says [2] Kit LED, does that mean we get 2 sets of 5 LEDs? And are these LED just for the caps lock/scroll lock keys?

good point - my mistake, OP updated. you will receive 5 LEDs with the kit. yes, those are for scroll and caps (+1 extra, just because). you can also buy packs of 100 LEDs separately

Awesome, thanks for clarifying!

Is there a timeline on GB closing / estimated ship date?

[roostrc0gburn]

So when it says [2] Kit LED, does that mean we get 2 sets of 5 LEDs? And are these LED just for the caps lock/scroll lock keys?

good point - my mistake, OP updated. you will receive 5 LEDs with the kit. yes, those are for scroll and caps (+1 extra, just because). you can also buy packs of 100 LEDs separately

Awesome, thanks for clarifying!

Is there a timeline on GB closing / estimated ship date?

still shoring up deadlines, but looks like switches will be the longest lead time, depending on type. gaterons will probably take 8-10 weeks. plates will take 3-4 weeks after we place the order.
i plan on leaving the form open through the month, unless orders start to trickle out, then i'll close it earlier

[DukeMugen]

can someone help me? i'm from singapore. dammit.

[goflo]

Hmm, that's really a bummer with the international shipping...
As you get the pcb from mechanicalkeyboards, maybe ask them if they would be interested in a bunch of skeleton sets. So maybe international buyers could at least order Plate, Skeleton case and pcb from mechanicalkeyboards.

[DukeMugen]

Mk doesnt even ship to singapore. Hahaha

[FreeCopy]

I really hope I can make it in on this. I was part of the buy on DT and would love ansi150 plates.

[Phenix]

so is an 7BIT Iso layout possible!? Whats about the prices? Do I only need the base kit(no need to get the extra standoffs/are in base kit some included?)

[s3vv4]

Damn I was really looking forward to this

[braidn]

8-10 weeks for the Gaterons? Dang that's a little nuts. However, it should give us all some time to source some stabs/wires

[roostrc0gburn]

so is an 7BIT Iso layout possible!? Whats about the prices? Do I only need the base kit(no need to get the extra standoffs/are in base kit some included?)

Phenix, I'm sorry, but I still dont know what you mean by 7BIT Iso layout. please refer to the wiki for the 5 layouts supported by the Phantom PCB. I have also (tried) to provide renders for them.

I am willing to edit the 7BIT plate as the community desires, but I can't make a custom plate for each individual. If you have specific requests for changes to the 7BIT layout, please let me know. Markups, pictures, CAD files would all be very helpful in this process

[Phenix]

I meant it as follows:

Can I use the 7BIT layout, but with an ISO enter /backspace.

I think its possible due to the last picture
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom

[roostrc0gburn]

I meant it as follows:

Can I use the 7BIT layout, but with an ISO enter /backspace.

I think its possible due to the last picture
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom

ah. well, i'm not sure everyone will want a 7BIT Iso board, but if there is enough demand for it, I can work on editing the plate. So far, you are the only one asking

[G-Dubs]

Looks awesome. I'm definitely interested.

Are the provided LEDs 5V? If not, a pair of resistors would be something to add to the "not included" list.

[duras]

Is there a good step-by-step guide for how to assemble/solder the kit?

[AKmalamute]

Is there a good step-by-step guide for how to assemble/solder the kit?

Having built two phantoms and one and a half ergodoxii ... just look up on youtube guides on assembling an ergodox kit. There's some details you won't have to worry about because the parts aren't in the kit, but other than that ... align pins to holes, apply solder, test diodes with a multimeter and if any keys mistype, re-examine that key's soldering job. If a row or column misbehaves, look at the pin on the teensy.

 if you can afford two, and this is your first ever solder job, buy two -- see if you can get a kit without a teensy? The trick is in interpreting individual solder joints, as to whether they're electrically clean. Once you get the hang of that (using the multimeter to clue you in immediately), it's no problem at all to finish a whole keyboard.

[asura]

Is there a good step-by-step guide for how to assemble/solder the kit?

Phantom instruction guide

[Parod]

A little constructive criticism?  I'd unhide the note on plates... in-fact, in your shoes I wouldn't have anything behind a "more" tab, just continue to use excellent formatting as you have throughout the rest of the OP.

And your 7bit layout is missing a key, from between Esc & F1 - any particular reason?  If you do shipping to the UK (no pressure) I could always just cut it out myself.

i think you're right - people seem to be missing a lot of the information... I removed the hidden text from OP.

Regarding the 7BIT layout, the switch hole can be added, yes. I dont know much about the layout - have not done a deep dive into the history. i basically just used the profisist's layout found in the wiki. i did find this old thread, though: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=23839.0
i would love to get more feedback from 7BIT users if we need to develop this layout a little further

I agree with asura; there should be a key between Esc and F1 so people could replicate what's on the DT Wiki

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[roostrc0gburn]

A little constructive criticism?  I'd unhide the note on plates... in-fact, in your shoes I wouldn't have anything behind a "more" tab, just continue to use excellent formatting as you have throughout the rest of the OP.

And your 7bit layout is missing a key, from between Esc & F1 - any particular reason?  If you do shipping to the UK (no pressure) I could always just cut it out myself.

i think you're right - people seem to be missing a lot of the information... I removed the hidden text from OP.

Regarding the 7BIT layout, the switch hole can be added, yes. I dont know much about the layout - have not done a deep dive into the history. i basically just used the profisist's layout found in the wiki. i did find this old thread, though: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=23839.0
i would love to get more feedback from 7BIT users if we need to develop this layout a little further

I agree with asura; there should be a key between Esc and F1 so people could replicate what's on the DT Wiki

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yes, i concur. no reason not to add the switch hole in the plate there - the pcb supports it. i will add it to the CAD file for the fab shop

[00zeRO]

A little constructive criticism?  I'd unhide the note on plates... in-fact, in your shoes I wouldn't have anything behind a "more" tab, just continue to use excellent formatting as you have throughout the rest of the OP.

And your 7bit layout is missing a key, from between Esc & F1 - any particular reason?  If you do shipping to the UK (no pressure) I could always just cut it out myself.

i think you're right - people seem to be missing a lot of the information... I removed the hidden text from OP.

Regarding the 7BIT layout, the switch hole can be added, yes. I dont know much about the layout - have not done a deep dive into the history. i basically just used the profisist's layout found in the wiki. i did find this old thread, though: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=23839.0
i would love to get more feedback from 7BIT users if we need to develop this layout a little further

I agree with asura; there should be a key between Esc and F1 so people could replicate what's on the DT Wiki

More

Show Image

yes, i concur. no reason not to add the switch hole in the plate there - the pcb supports it. i will add it to the CAD file for the fab shop

Okay, so 7Bit will feature all switches on the top row?

[onmybikedrunk]

Awesome!  I too was looking for a reason to build a Phantom... Reserved.

[YabosMcGee]

I know the case thing has been addressed, but I was curious if a middle layer would work? I haven't done any custom keyboards myself, but I've seen a lot of kits that have three layers: top plate, bottom plate, and a middle layer (usually acrylic) that's simply an outline. Do you think it'd be possible? That is, if someone were interested, my guess is that they'd have to have a middle layer custom cut?

[kustom3]

Really looking forward a second round with international shipping. Been waiting for a decent price on metal plates for a while now.

[Corusco]

I think this is a cool board, and might pick one up for fun. One nitpick from the grammar police: the silkscreen tag should have "thou" instead of "thee." I can go into it if you want; you probably don't.

[roostrc0gburn]

Okay, so 7Bit will feature all switches on the top row?

yes, full top row

I know the case thing has been addressed, but I was curious if a middle layer would work? I haven't done any custom keyboards myself, but I've seen a lot of kits that have three layers: top plate, bottom plate, and a middle layer (usually acrylic) that's simply an outline. Do you think it'd be possible? That is, if someone were interested, my guess is that they'd have to have a middle layer custom cut?

yeah, mid-layer is totally possible. have seen these done, and if someone wanted to do that i could work with them to develop the CAD file

[need]

Do us Europeans still have any hope for this awesome GB?

[00zeRO]

Okay, so 7Bit will feature all switches on the top row?

yes, full top row

Awesome!

[Willyc277]

Been looking for a decent TKL, really digging the case! An acrylic mid-piece would be sick! Just have a couple of questions as I'm a bit of newb when it comes to building!

1. I'm guessing the Teensy and diodes will need to be soldered?

2. Do the ANSI plates support split right shift?

Going to be putting in an order by the end of the weekend!

Edit: annnnd my order's in 

[Rarabka233]

How easy is this going to be to reprogram?  I am considering getting the 7bit kit but it really depends on how simple that is.

[braidn]

How easy is this going to be to reprogram?  I am considering getting the 7bit kit but it really depends on how simple that is.

Super easy using TMK or QMK firmware here: https://github.com/jackhumbert/qmk_firmware

In the keyboard directory there is a phantom directory with all the information needed. Usually it's as easy as installing easyAVR and running the following command:

make KEYMAP=name_of_keymap

Then opening the teensy program and drag and dropping the file into it. There is a bit of terminal work required but nothing scary.

[Crossfire]

I'd be interested in the tkl combo, anything new about the international shipping? They're quite some Europeans here wanting some tkl love...me included. We need this, man

[roostrc0gburn]

Been looking for a decent TKL, really digging the case! An acrylic mid-piece would be sick! Just have a couple of questions as I'm a bit of newb when it comes to building!

1. I'm guessing the Teensy and diodes will need to be soldered?

2. Do the ANSI plates support split right shift?

Going to be putting in an order by the end of the weekend!

Edit: annnnd my order's in 

1. yes, teensy, diodes, switches, and LEDs (optional) will need to be soldered to the board
2. no, the ANSI boards will be standard layout as shown

thanks for ordering! 

I'd be interested in the tkl combo, anything new about the international shipping? They're quite some Europeans here wanting some tkl love...me included. We need this, man

nope, still no proxy. unless someone comes forward, its not looking like euro/asian orders will be available this time  sorry

[Ephemeral]

Hey @roostrc0gburn
I'm wanting to edit my order but I'm just getting a new order form.
Mind releasing my first one so I can submit a new one, pretty please?

[roostrc0gburn]

please check the OP, i have linked a spreadsheet for the current orders. if you need to make changes, just let me know!
thanks everyone

[roostrc0gburn]

i just wanted to point out that I will have a "prototype" made from the shop to verify all the dimensions are good, and I want to post a build log for anyone who is new to making their own keyboard.

[andysun]

How much would shipping for Europe cost?

I think some people would be willing to pay a bit for shipping, since the GB cost is pretty decent