Will it be possible to get the pcb and the plate alone?
I'd be interested, mostly for the programmability and hot-swappable aspects. I am accustomed to the HHKB layout, so I don't want/need arrow keys. I would prefer to have the customary mods on the bottom row. I also like a split right-shift with a 1x Fn key to the right of the right shift.
It would be really sweet if it could accept Alps / Matias switches.
I've absolutely no use at all for a 5th kb, yet why do I want one of these so much?
I would still prefer without sip sockets as soldering the switches are more secured to me.
Hope there will be an option to choose with/without sip sockets.
Wow. This is a really good idea, and a pretty well thought-out design in lots of ways. I like how you've managed a 60% layout with arrow keys, and yet you're only using one nonstandard key--the short right shift--which is not even all that obscure. I like the shorter bottom row, reminiscent of the HHKB.
It looks like you've got HHKB backspace support, which is a huge bonus. And support for stepped and non-stepped caps lock, also good.
The only thing I don't like about the layout is that right shift. I use it all the time and I always hit it on the left. Having an up arrow there would ruin my day. Since it seems like your SIP socket design can support alternate layout options, any chance of adding support for a full-size right shift? And secondarily, the option for the short right shift with the 1U key on the right, HHKB-style. You could still have arrow keys, something like this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/y8CqN5U.jpg)
If you had that option I would not be able to pass this one up.
This is actually a huge dream come true to me.
Been a big advocate of Khaannn's alternative arrowed 60% layout from the beginning (as some of you might know) and was already planning to risk sacrificing a rather high end pcb to build one.
So naturally an absolute must buy for me! :D
Is there any chance for supporting a 6.25 space and 1.25 mods bottom row?
This would be my absolute dream layout:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/haRc2uK.png)
Also the question still remains if this would fit standard 60% cases if you get a (preferably acrylic) plate cut by yourself?
I image since switches are swappable the pcb is standoff mounted, right?
Will it be possible to get the pcb and the plate alone?
I love it, very tempted. I have some questions:
How secure are the switches on their sockets?
How well they keep tighten on them with no wobbling?
ISO Support? At least the ISO enter, I really do not care about the short left ISO shift, it is a pain.
Would love to see pictures of the bottom.
This is acrylic plate, no?
I'd be interested, mostly for the programmability and hot-swappable aspects. I am accustomed to the HHKB layout, so I don't want/need arrow keys. I would prefer to have the customary mods on the bottom row. I also like a split right-shift with a 1x Fn key to the right of the right shift.
It would be really sweet if it could accept Alps / Matias switches.
Wow. This is a really good idea, and a pretty well thought-out design in lots of ways. I like how you've managed a 60% layout with arrow keys, and yet you're only using one nonstandard key--the short right shift--which is not even all that obscure. I like the shorter bottom row, reminiscent of the HHKB.
It looks like you've got HHKB backspace support, which is a huge bonus. And support for stepped and non-stepped caps lock, also good.
The only thing I don't like about the layout is that right shift. I use it all the time and I always hit it on the left. Having an up arrow there would ruin my day. Since it seems like your SIP socket design can support alternate layout options, any chance of adding support for a full-size right shift? And secondarily, the option for the short right shift with the 1U key on the right, HHKB-style. You could still have arrow keys, something like this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/y8CqN5U.jpg)
If you had that option I would not be able to pass this one up.
I might consider adding the option. The LEDs would be slightly off-center (in the original positions)- would that be fine?
If I hadn't picked up a Smart 68 on Taobao a couple weeks ago, I would be in for this 100%. To anyone worried about switch stability, I haven't had any problems with my Smart (which I assume uses the same socket system). The plate keeps everything very secure, and I've never had an issue removing and replacing caps, even when I had Clears in it.
I'll see if I can get shots of the socket system on a removed switch as I have a couple of spare sockets laying around for anyone who wants to see it.
If I hadn't picked up a Smart 68 on Taobao a couple weeks ago, I would be in for this 100%. To anyone worried about switch stability, I haven't had any problems with my Smart (which I assume uses the same socket system). The plate keeps everything very secure, and I've never had an issue removing and replacing caps, even when I had Clears in it.
I'll see if I can get shots of the socket system on a removed switch as I have a couple of spare sockets laying around for anyone who wants to see it.
I'd love to see a video of keycaps been swapped.
Interested! Great looking layout.
Would like to see this as well :)
I'd love to see a video of keycaps been swapped.Interested! Great looking layout.Interested! Great looking layout.
Would like to see this as well :)
There's a video shared by Feng on the Smart 68 IC.
Removing Switches (https://youtu.be/_P7iBCCO-cI)
Swapping LEDs (http://static.youku.com/v1.0.0423/v/swf/loader.swf?VideoIDS=XNzc3NjQ1MjYw&embedid=OTguMjUxLjkwLjE0AjE5NDQxMTMxNQJ3d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbQIvci9tZWNoYW5pY2Fsa2V5Ym9hcmRz&wd=&vext=pid%3D%26emb%3DOTguMjUxLjkwLjE0AjE5NDQxMTMxNQJ3d3cucmVkZGl0LmNvbQIvci9tZWNoYW5pY2Fsa2V5Ym9hcmRz%26bc%3D%26type%3D0)
If I can get my hands on a decent macro lens and some lighting, I could probably take pictures of the inside of the sockets, which would demonstrate more clearly how they work.
Seeing the video made me want to get one of these 60/2's to try.
I think this is like a life size switch tester, the best thing to try any combination of switches, stems, springs, tops and bottoms that you may think of in the MX variety, a keyboard aficionado wet-dream and just in case you need them, arrows in a sixty format, along with RBG leds for your long nights playing with it.
Wow. This is a really good idea, and a pretty well thought-out design in lots of ways. I like how you've managed a 60% layout with arrow keys, and yet you're only using one nonstandard key--the short right shift--which is not even all that obscure. I like the shorter bottom row, reminiscent of the HHKB.
It looks like you've got HHKB backspace support, which is a huge bonus. And support for stepped and non-stepped caps lock, also good.
The only thing I don't like about the layout is that right shift. I use it all the time and I always hit it on the left. Having an up arrow there would ruin my day. Since it seems like your SIP socket design can support alternate layout options, any chance of adding support for a full-size right shift? And secondarily, the option for the short right shift with the 1U key on the right, HHKB-style. You could still have arrow keys, something like this:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/y8CqN5U.jpg)
If you had that option I would not be able to pass this one up.
Typing these responses from board 1!I would still prefer without sip sockets as soldering the switches are more secured to me.
Hope there will be an option to choose with/without sip sockets.
I may make this an option, although PCB mount switches are very stable and don't experience any wobble unless you press really, really hard.
Typing these responses from board 1!I would still prefer without sip sockets as soldering the switches are more secured to me.
Hope there will be an option to choose with/without sip sockets.
I may make this an option, although PCB mount switches are very stable and don't experience any wobble unless you press really, really hard.
Yes, that will be great! ;)
Yea, I know pcb mount switch are quite firm. I think I'm just a little too concern/worry about switch being pull off together with keycaps if the stem is too tight sometimes.
+1. You got me!I'd be interested, mostly for the programmability and hot-swappable aspects. I am accustomed to the HHKB layout, so I don't want/need arrow keys. I would prefer to have the customary mods on the bottom row. I also like a split right-shift with a 1x Fn key to the right of the right shift.
It would be really sweet if it could accept Alps / Matias switches.
It appears that you want a totally different board.
So after 23 tries, I finally managed to get a relatively clear picture of the inside of this barrel/sleeve/socket/etc with my cell phone, because I couldn't get my hands on a real camera. Picture here (http://i.imgur.com/7Ik0ESc.jpg) because it took up too much space on the page so I didn't want to embed it.That's pretty cool.
This particular sleeve has had a switch slid into it (the big leg, not the small one) 5 or 6 times because I've been messing around with it a lot. It would seem to me it's a pretty resilient system. In case anyone was actually interested.
That's pretty cool.
How are the barrels secured in the plate? Glue/solder or just friction fit?
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Typing these responses from board 1!I would still prefer without sip sockets as soldering the switches are more secured to me.
Hope there will be an option to choose with/without sip sockets.
I may make this an option, although PCB mount switches are very stable and don't experience any wobble unless you press really, really hard.
Yes, that will be great! ;)
Yea, I know pcb mount switch are quite firm. I think I'm just a little too concern/worry about switch being pull off together with keycaps if the stem is too tight sometimes.
If having the option to solder the switches can be offered, that may help some people to get in, which is good, but I think that departs from the main concept of the design: hot-swappability, after all, there are many other PCBs that are for soldering, but this maybe the only soon to be offered with this feature.
Would definitely be interested in getting one, doubly so if there's the possibility of alternative colours and solid, non-transparent, acrylic top and bottom plates (for those of us who don't care about the LEDs)
A summary of some of the requests that have been posted.
SUMMARY OF FEATURES AND REQUESTS:
1. Features already included:
1.1. A layout with arrows in a sixty format.
1.2. LEDs.
1.3. Programmability.
1.4. Hot swappability.
2. Requests that may not increase the cost:
2.1. Option for a PCB with no switch sockets soldered. (Is this feasible?)
2.2. Alternative colors for the acrylic plate and bottom.
3. Requests already considered
3.1. ISO Enter compatibility (Confirmed for round 1).
3.2. HHKB right shift option (Not confirmed yet?).
4. Requests that may not be feasible:
4.1. Extra bottom row options.
Something missing?
If I understood well, this layout will be available in round one, correct?
Would definitely be interested in getting one, doubly so if there's the possibility of alternative colours and solid, non-transparent, acrylic top and bottom plates (for those of us who don't care about the LEDs)
I don't know if you answered it or not but the LEDs are soldered in the bottom right? So switches like original Cherry have black case can't show the LEDs at all. I'm looking forward for this anyway. :p
Thank you.
Which mcu are you using? Just super interested.
I also assume that that mounting holes are the same as the popular 60% boards? And the user can directly solder the switches rather than using the sip sockets?
Sweet project you got going here, and the price point is attractive. I'll be down to order a set!
Very interested. I hope you ship to germany and that the shipping cost doesn't kill me.
Will the case has other color than black? I'm looking for Turquoise or something green.
SUMMARY OF FEATURES AND REQUESTS Pending OP confirmation.
(Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with the OP-Designer, I am just another interested person that put this together for the benefit of the followers of this awesome idea, in the hope that it may be of some help)
1. Features already included:
1.1. A layout with arrows in a sixty format.
1.2. LEDs.
1.3. Programmability.
1.4. Hot swappability.
2. Requests that may not increase the cost:
2.1. Alternative colors for the acrylic plate and bottom.
3. Requests already considered
3.1. ISO Enter compatibility (Confirmed for round 1).
3.2. HHKB right shift option (Not confirmed yet?).
4. Requests that may not be feasible:
4.1. Extra bottom row options. (May this be moved to the next level?)
5. Request that may be implemented with additional cost / alternate design:
5.1 Option for a PCB with no switch sockets soldered. Alternative PCB with proper pass-through holes for soldering switches. (Pending OP confirmation).
Something missing?
with programmingz yes? what controller?
with programmingz yes? what controller?
I'm still waiting to see if the board will be compatible with currently available 60% cases- if you've got one, please tell me how deep the standoffs are- I'm very curious.
Will the case has other color than black? I'm looking for Turquoise or something green.
See answer to wongie above. I couldn't find any turquoise acrylic in the right thickness, but something green might be available? No guarantees, sadly.
My question is about the middle plate of the case. Does it have other colors?
My question is about the middle plate of the case. Does it have other colors?
Some other colors will be available, depending on what acrylic I can get at the right thickness. I'll be posting more detail on that closer to Round 1.
Round 0 should be posted sometime next week- I had originally planned to start it today, but the case is still being a bit wonky and needs a little more work.
Cases are pretty easy to customize. What colors would people want to see? I might end up just providing all available acrylic colors on the form for Round 1, maybe Round 0- MOQ would be 4 for any color. I do think that getting matte acrylic is optimal for the top and bottom, as it's much more scratch-resistant than regular, but if you're fine with that a lot more colors are avilable.
Cases are pretty easy to customize. What colors would people want to see? I might end up just providing all available acrylic colors on the form for Round 1, maybe Round 0- MOQ would be 4 for any color. I do think that getting matte acrylic is optimal for the top and bottom, as it's much more scratch-resistant than regular, but if you're fine with that a lot more colors are avilable.
Personally I'd be happy with plain black or dark grey, just without a transparent top and bottom. I'm sure there are others who would like more vibrant colour options. Now that you mention it it would be even better if all layers were available in matte, as you say it's more scratch resistant, but equally I think a solid matte on all sides looks better than glossy.
This is actually a huge dream come true to me.
Been a big advocate of Khaannn's alternative arrowed 60% layout from the beginning (as some of you might know) and was already planning to risk sacrificing a rather high end pcb to build one.
So naturally an absolute must buy for me! :D
Is there any chance for supporting a 6.25 space and 1.25 mods bottom row?
This would be my absolute dream layout:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/haRc2uK.png)
Also the question still remains if this would fit standard 60% cases if you get a (preferably acrylic) plate cut by yourself?
I image since switches are swappable the pcb is standoff mounted, right?
This is actually a huge dream come true to me.
Been a big advocate of Khaannn's alternative arrowed 60% layout from the beginning (as some of you might know) and was already planning to risk sacrificing a rather high end pcb to build one.
So naturally an absolute must buy for me! :D
Is there any chance for supporting a 6.25 space and 1.25 mods bottom row?
This would be my absolute dream layout:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/haRc2uK.png)
Also the question still remains if this would fit standard 60% cases if you get a (preferably acrylic) plate cut by yourself?
I image since switches are swappable the pcb is standoff mounted, right?
+1, not bad, it has some advantages over the OP's proposal: it takes only standard modifiers, but the right shift that in any case would be the hard one to get, the standard space bar is also a plus for most of the users, just those boring old farts like me that prefer 7u and 1.5 mods would have to change, in any case, this layout would be the best one for most, even a TaiHao set can fit this, but the right shift, I suggest the OP to consider this at least as an alternative, if not as the base PCB. Ah, and the space bar look better centered, the slight asymmetry makes it even better, with more style.
This is actually a huge dream come true to me.
Been a big advocate of Khaannn's alternative arrowed 60% layout from the beginning (as some of you might know) and was already planning to risk sacrificing a rather high end pcb to build one.
So naturally an absolute must buy for me! :D
Is there any chance for supporting a 6.25 space and 1.25 mods bottom row?
This would be my absolute dream layout:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/haRc2uK.png)
Also the question still remains if this would fit standard 60% cases if you get a (preferably acrylic) plate cut by yourself?
I image since switches are swappable the pcb is standoff mounted, right?
+1, not bad, it has some advantages over the OP's proposal: it takes only standard modifiers, but the right shift that in any case would be the hard one to get, the standard space bar is also a plus for most of the users, just those boring old farts like me that prefer 7u and 1.5 mods would have to change, in any case, this layout would be the best one for most, even a TaiHao set can fit this, but the right shift, I suggest the OP to consider this at least as an alternative, if not as the base PCB. Ah, and the space bar look better centered, the slight asymmetry makes it even better, with more style.
For someone who uses Windows as a Operating System, I am not sure what's so popular about win key less approach?
Just remembered something mildly important:
Does the kit include stabilizers? If not do we need PCB or plate mount stabilizers?
Just remembered something mildly important:
Does the kit include stabilizers? If not do we need PCB or plate mount stabilizers?
The board takes PCB mount Cherry stabs- currently working on sourcing them. They'll be $8-10, depending on how things go.
Round 0 will start this Friday (April 22nd) and run through the weekend! 12 boards will be available; winners will be chosen on Monday. Base price (PCB+case w/ plate) will be set at $125.
Will there any difference between round 0 and round 1?
Round 0 will start this Friday (April 22nd) and run through the weekend! 12 boards will be available; winners will be chosen on Monday. Base price (PCB+case w/ plate) will be set at $125.Will the case have other color choices or just the original one?
Round 0 will start this Friday (April 22nd) and run through the weekend! 12 boards will be available; winners will be chosen on Monday. Base price (PCB+case w/ plate) will be set at $125.
Round 0 is open!
http://goo.gl/forms/EHFGjPbZzN
What does "partial priority" for round 1 mean?
Entered!
Any clue on the pricing for round1 just in case RNGesus is not nice to me this time?
Oh and how do I change my sig to support this IC?
Sorry for the trouble to anyone that has filled out the form.