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Offline morpheus

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Alps Appreciation Thread
« on: Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:56:05 »
Show me your love for Alps keyboards!

Which Alps keyboards have you loved over the years?
Which ones do you use on a regular basis?
Which ones do you recommend for the community?

I can only wish to own as many Alps keyboards as this guy...


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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:57:58 »
I'm new to the Alps game but I currently have a 1087XM with Clicky White Alps and a Dell AT101W with Tactile Black Alps. I would highly recommend the AT101W to anyone who wants to try Alps out.

My favorite Alps type switch is the Matias Clicky Switch. It will be going into the future GH TKL Alps custom board. Otherwise, I would've snagged a Kingsaver :D

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 04 July 2013, 10:59:03 »
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 04 July 2013, 11:08:26 »
I plan on modding the hell out of my 1087XM. The switch swap is just phase one of my project. If anyone wants to follow my build log, check this thread out.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 04 July 2013, 11:36:06 »
I love Alps but hate the big-ass enter key. What a conundrum! I've bought some older Alps boards, but I couldn't use one of them as a daily driver. Instead I'm going to harvest the complicated CM switches and doubleshot key caps.

I do have a new SGI Granite 9500900. That is a beautiful piece of hardware for sure. Probably the best built Alps board of all time.

I'm planning to mod an abs M1 to better switches to have a modern full-size Alps board, and hopefully get the Alps TKL project board when it's available. Not sure where to go from there. Maybe I'll close out my Alps collection at that point.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 04 July 2013, 11:39:43 »
I heard this was a thread for alps lovers. 

I'll barrage you guys with pics of all my alps board when i get home tonight.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 04 July 2013, 15:07:37 »
I usually hate Alps. Too low starting resistance, wrong force curve that always forces me to bottom out. Sensitive to dust and get scratchy. I had a AEKII, DellAT101W and PowerUser 105 whose switches (Cream, Black, White) I have combined to try to find likable combinations of spring, slider and click leaf, but without any luck.

Then I got a vintage Apple Standard Keyboard this week. It has Salmon pink Alps, and I love the feel of them with the Apple keycaps. They do feel a bit like "MX Ergo Clear" or "Panda Clear". Unfortunately, it is a M0118 with a bit of a weird layout. The M0116 has the Control key in the "correct" position (according to me), where this one has a latching Caps Lock.

I also have a Chicony keyboard with SMK "Montereys". They are not Alps, they merely have Alps-compatible keycaps. One of the best type of clicky switches, for sure. A bit like a more tactile, somewhat harder Cherry MX Blue.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 04 July 2013, 17:36:29 »
AT102W owner here. The ISO (102) layout seems very rare. Black complicated tactile ALPS. Currently looking for a complete ISO set of blank ALPS caps.



Luckily I have an old broken AT102W with about 100 ALPS switches. I'd like to keep a few for when i need to perform surgery on mine (happened under the black caps), but if anyone needs one or two, I could perhaps take them off.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 04 July 2013, 20:18:48 »


My 1087XM with green ALPS, right when I got it in April. I hate a lot of things about it, but it's the best feeling keyboard I've ever used (at least, until I got my hhkb). I'm considering selling it, not because I don't like it, but because I don't have a use for it. I really do love it, though.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 04 July 2013, 20:34:16 »
When I first got into keyboards, my source was a computer graveyard owned by the local university.

The most common "good" board you could find there was a Focus 2001, for somewhere between 1 and 5 USD if I recall right.

More recently, I got a DK1008XM with green switches; they're nice in their own way, but they aren't traditional old white ALPS. :/
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 04 July 2013, 20:41:39 »
I used an Apple Extended Keyboard II from 1991 - 1999. I have long forgotten how awesome that keyboard was as I have since used rubber domes until last year.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 00:29:59 »
OMG Kingsaver is gorgeous...probably costs $400+





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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 03:51:13 »
Alps keyboards I've used thus far are a Dell AT101W, Apple Extended Keyboard (M0115), and an Apple Extended Keyboard II (M3501). The Apple Extended Keyboard II seems to be a cult favorite with a lot of people, but I much prefer the sound and feel of the Apple Extended Keyboard (M0115).
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 09:09:04 »
One blue alps lover reporting in.

The keyboard I'm using at the moment:





PCB says it is Focus FK-747A, but there are no labels on the case. Switches are complicated & clicky blue alps, except WASD + L-Shift & L-Alt modded into linear/very little tactile and no clicky sound, because of gaming.

The fluffy layout can be seen from the pictures.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 09:31:31 »
I am loving the Alps love.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 09:46:36 »
I've become a fan of ALPS (and their variants). Right now I'm rocking a Ducky 1087XM with black linear XMs at the office. Liking it a lot, plus is way more silent than the green XMs, which I think my co-workers appreciate. Had a red Escape key, but stole this one from my Dell AT101W - I think it looks more elegant for the office.


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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 15:38:43 »
Here are pics of some of the ALPs boards I've owned (many I've since sold).

Chicony KB-5181 (Monterey Blues)


Dell AT101 (Black ALPs)


Old Logo Dell AT101 (Pink ALPs)


Filco Zero (I modded this to orange ALPs)


MTek-104 (Monterey Blues)


Northgate Omikey (This came stock with white ALPs....I modded it to blue ALPs)


SGI Granite (Dampened white ALPs)


SGI White (Dampened cream ALPs)


Siig Minitouch (Montery Blues)


Zenith ZKB2-AT (Linear Green ALPs)


Zenith ZKB2-AT (Linear Yellow ALPs)


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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 15:43:55 »
Man....you had my unicorn board. I want a Filco Zero so bad Akimbro

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 17:27:25 »
Wow Akimbo is definitely the Alps master so far!

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 19:16:00 »
Here are pics of some of the ALPs boards I've owned (many I've since sold).

I was wondering when you were going to put out.

Nothing for me to add except that I have an actual "Alps Electric" branded keyboard (ANSI, complicated white) in storage.

I hate to break it out for a photo, but this thread needs it. Also, somebody crack open some old Apple boards.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 19:41:55 »
Akimbo, that is a beautiful collection, those are keepers.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 21:33:26 »
I love alps. It's just a difficult switch to get into due to it's lack of availability and relatively fragile switches.

I really look forward to all the custom alps projects that are happening. ;)

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 22:06:14 »
I figured I needed to give Alps switches a try so I picked up an AT101W on ebay for about $30. I should receive it on Monday. Looking forward to trying it out.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 22:55:02 »
Most of these seem to be older boards.  What happened to ALPS?  Are they still being made?
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 22:56:19 »
No they went down under a long time ago. Matias is the only company that makes alps switches/boards now.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 22:56:58 »
Matias is the only Alps switch/board manufacturer in the world now.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 05 July 2013, 23:40:18 »
Dell AT101 with black ALPS. I want to find some blank keycaps in WYSE colors, but that is hard right now lol. I haven't done any real typing on it yet cause I am in the process of cleaning it, but it feels really nice so far.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 06 July 2013, 00:37:57 »
That's a shame - seems like there were a lot of different switches, and lots of love for them.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 06 July 2013, 23:32:32 »
I love Alps linear, green and old T-shaped stem.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 07 July 2013, 07:50:07 »
That's a shame - seems like there were a lot of different switches, and lots of love for them.

I think that Alps switches feel better than Cherries, I like click and Cherry has never gotten it right.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 07 July 2013, 09:32:29 »
I'm using an SGI Granite board with cream Alps at work (silent tactical Alps), and while the switches could be lighter for me, it has a very nice feel and is nicely silent.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 08 July 2013, 08:04:05 »


Sup
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 08 July 2013, 08:15:08 »
* CPTBadAss ruins his Filco with all his drooling

Link me some info on that LZ Sifo. I thought Kingsaver and Calavera's MX/Alps board were the only few Korean custom Alps boards out right now.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 08 July 2013, 08:19:30 »
* CPTBadAss ruins his Filco with all his drooling

Link me some info on that LZ Sifo. I thought Kingsaver and Calavera's MX/Alps board were the only few Korean custom Alps boards out right now.

LZ himself just posted it today and it's literally like pasted together.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 10:51:02 »
What do you GH'ers think are the top 5 Alps Switches, and top 5 Alps keyboards?

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 12:32:38 »
Top 5 Alps Switches:
1) Matias Clicky
2) Monterey Blues
3) Clicky Whites
4) Tactile Blacks
5) Matias Quiet

I still haven't tried Complicated Blue Alps but I heard they're sexy.

Top Alps boards:
1) Filco Zero
2) Filco Zero
3) Filco Zero
4) Filco Zero
5) Filco Zero

I love the Filco Zero :P; it's one of my dream boards along with the G80-5000. There's also apparently a modern TKL layout Alps board that Leopold put out but I forgot what it was called. The Apple AEK and AT101W are very nice. I'm getting a Siig Minitouch and Dauphin board soon so I'll comment on those soon.

I'm thinking that the Kingsaver, Calavera's Mini Alps/MX, and the future GH TKL Alps boards are gonna be awesome as well.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 12:36:48 »




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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 12:45:56 »
What do you GH'ers think are the top 5 Alps Switches, and top 5 Alps keyboards?

akimbo is definitely a stud with those boards- wow!

my favorite alps [like] switch is monterey blues, but i think that is only because i do not have a complicated blue alps yet.

would definitely like to buy one if anybody has 1 they want to turn loose :-*

i hear the creamy alps are pretty creamy...........

i have more alps boards than i do cherry boards:)
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 12:51:46 »
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 16:35:42 »
I'll take the whites. Sifo == pimp

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 16:36:48 »
Sifo doesn't actually have or own those boards lmao. He's just posting stuff he sees on KBD.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 16:42:38 »
Well, then he needs to get out there and start stealing them for us,  ASAP!

P.S. I'm awaiting delivery of my Chicony 5160AT so I can try out and harvest some complicated blues. My order of Matias click switches is delayed by like a month too,  so it's going to be a while before I answer the question about my favorite switches. I'm impatient!

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 18:22:57 »
Sifo doesn't actually have or own those boards lmao. He's just posting stuff he sees on KBD.

Those guys at KBD are ballers. I don't know how they get all this stuff.

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 18:23:56 »
Get? They MAKE :P

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 19:20:18 »
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 22:32:27 »
I honestly don't really care for alps (SORRY WRONG THREAD)

but I'll see about getting one or two of these. There's been a sudden influx of "custom" alps boards.

And then sell it or give it away to one of you alps lovers.
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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 10 July 2013, 23:56:43 »
Ooh,  I want one! In B4 CPTBadAss! ;)

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 07:49:24 »
Pffft. Sifo owes me since I currently I have the largest supply of Green Tea Kit Kats in my apartment. Plus we're both Select fanboys. SUP SON ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Re: Alps Appreciation Thread
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 11 July 2013, 09:42:08 »
Beautiful boards guys<drools>

I am currently typing on AT101W which I loooove (tested some MX boards and really don't like them as much).

Recently my collegue bought Monterey board with white alps (we thought it will have monterey switches, but it turned out for the better) and boy do I want me some of these as well :P

Sifo...i must say that want level is high within me right now...ALPS mini board....mmmm...

Only problem i see with ALPS boards is the lack of novelty caps, or rather really small amount compared to MX and Topre. But I will wait patiently and maybe one day some will show up :)