If you're getting the Viper ones made, can an Eagle one also be made too?
This would be super easy to accomplish, as Duck also made a single PCB for the Eagle, and then broke off two corners to convert it into a Viper PCB.
It 's support ANSI?
If you're getting the Viper ones made, can an Eagle one also be made too?
This would be super easy to accomplish, as Duck also made a single PCB for the Eagle, and then broke off two corners to convert it into a Viper PCB.
This is looked into, it might affect the plate MOQ as 2 different plates will be necessary.
Oh good. What material of plates? SS/Aluminum or others?
Will the side LED be supported? I'm curious if Leeku PCB can support RGB led, that would be awesome.
Will this support all possible layouts on the Viper? Split backspace, short right shift, etc.
A black pcb would be awesome.
Will the side LED be supported? I'm curious if Leeku PCB can support RGB led, that would be awesome.
You are right, I want this. Possibly Alp/MX compatible?
Is this going to be compatible with Alps mount switches as well? I seem to remember the Eagle being Alps compatible...
You are right, I want this. Possibly Alp/MX compatible?Is this going to be compatible with Alps mount switches as well? I seem to remember the Eagle being Alps compatible...
Forgot to answer that, it will be mx only.
There's quite a lot of interest, I'll try to finalize the details and pricing asap.
Still taking your input on the color of the PCB :D
Hi azhdar, can you add the Leeku ALPhaS L3 PCB for the Orion V1 to the insetting also? Have been looking for one. :(
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=2393818&mid=board_Lsno50
Thanks for news.
Look your pcb pic like Sprit 60% PCB :p
I asked the moderation team to add a poll to determine what people are interested in the most(pcb only or added plates). pls vote when it appears ;)
I asked the moderation team to add a poll to determine what people are interested in the most(pcb only or added plates). pls vote when it appears ;)
Poll is up. :thumb: If you need anything changed, just let myself or another mod know. :)
Also, voted! :))
Does the Eagle PCB/plate combo fit the many Poker/GH60 cases out there? I missed out on the original buy, and although I've been digging into the old threads, I can't seem to find this info.
Does the Eagle PCB/plate combo fit the many Poker/GH60 cases out there? I missed out on the original buy, and although I've been digging into the old threads, I can't seem to find this info.
Thank you for clearing it up so completely. I'm definitely not asking for Poker compatibility, but I was hoping I could build one of these, since I don't already have a case.Does the Eagle PCB/plate combo fit the many Poker/GH60 cases out there? I missed out on the original buy, and although I've been digging into the old threads, I can't seem to find this info.
If you compare this (the standoffs will show you the regular 60% position):Show Image(http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/images/products/large_616_PSIMG_0156.jpg)
to this (a duck eagle):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9NqrwCB.jpg)
You'll see that the positions aren't the same. I have no intention to make it compatible for regular 60%, this will be stricly for Eagle/viper.
Few things have been cleared:
- possibility of SMD (resistor+diodes ) soldering will be offered for extra 15$
- both Eagle & Viper plate will be made
- leeku has been given all informations necessary by Duck.
Only pricing need to be finalized on few points (shipping, precise plate & pcb prices). Plus I need to finish other keyboard related projects before starting this.
I checked with my Viper PCB with FMJ housing.Thank you for the pictures. At least I know I could make it work if I want to chance it.
This is some pics:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2xHmKqA.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6SV1g2h.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jVhO6iZ.jpg)
You can just mount 4 holes, no more. I think it's enough reliable to use.
This is only personal idea. You should thinking to give decision.
How deal breaker would that be for you guys to have non removable switch tops?
This is still in discussion, but we might not be able to do them.
Still a few points to figure out, I hope to launch it before october.
Also we might be heading towards 2 pcb, because a pcb with so much bottom row possibility might get in the way of a breakable version.
Finally we will be able to provide removable switch tops.
Working on the render of plate and picture of the multiple layouts available, we will be ready to launch in a very close future.
Hi!
Very nice!
Please add Minila bottom line option with 3u (or similar short) space bar for Viper.
Fn keys around short space bar is a dream layout.
I replaced Minila's controller with teensy to do so on my keyboard.
My dream is to have Viper with short space bar!
Thanks.
This is kinda side-tracking the GB, but just wanted to mention that if possible, I would love to see some coordination/support for the Viper PCB/plate and the SkiDatum60% case.
It would be really cool to have them be compatible, and build our very own Skidata HHKB ;)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74248.0
Just thought I'd mention it. I'm sure it's just a matter of making sure the holes on the case line up with the plate/PCB holes of the PCB, and making sure the PCB dimensions fit the case.
Either way, I'm quite excited about the entire GB :thumb: Will get an extra plate/PCB for my Eagle, as well as a Viper set, if the case compatibility can be ensured.
Will either pcb fit a standard 60% case?
Sorry if this was asked before.
Will either pcb fit a standard 60% case?
Sorry if this was asked before.
It is unconfirmed, but I have requested it with the PCB designer, and it is being considered.
Thanks for the reply. I hope at least a couple of screws/standoff will fit.
I'll definitely keep an eye on this thread for the response then!
I checked with my Viper PCB with FMJ housing.
This is some pics:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2xHmKqA.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6SV1g2h.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jVhO6iZ.jpg)
You can just mount 4 holes, no more. I think it's enough reliable to use.
This is only personal idea. You should thinking to give decision.
We should be able to add the center hole of standard 60% case on our design.This is interesting, in this case I would be interested in one PCB too. I don't have a Eagle/Viper case and getting one is close to impossible, so compatibility with a standard case is something really cool. I can live without the bottom mounting hole :thumb:
The bottom one will not.
We should be able to add the center hole of standard 60% case on our design.This is interesting, in this case I would be interested in one PCB too. I don't have a Eagle/Viper case and getting one is close to impossible, so compatibility with a standard case is something really cool. I can live without the bottom mounting hole :thumb:
The bottom one will not.
We should be able to add the center hole of standard 60% case on our design.This is interesting, in this case I would be interested in one PCB too. I don't have a Eagle/Viper case and getting one is close to impossible, so compatibility with a standard case is something really cool. I can live without the bottom mounting hole :thumb:
The bottom one will not.
Me too! I've got a vortex case lying around... unused.. ;D
We should be able to add the center hole of standard 60% case on our design.This is interesting, in this case I would be interested in one PCB too. I don't have a Eagle/Viper case and getting one is close to impossible, so compatibility with a standard case is something really cool. I can live without the bottom mounting hole :thumb:
The bottom one will not.
Me too! I've got a vortex case lying around... unused.. ;D
I would insta-buy a Poker-compatible Eagle PCB and plate.
I'm leaning towards two...We should be able to add the center hole of standard 60% case on our design.This is interesting, in this case I would be interested in one PCB too. I don't have a Eagle/Viper case and getting one is close to impossible, so compatibility with a standard case is something really cool. I can live without the bottom mounting hole :thumb:
The bottom one will not.
Me too! I've got a vortex case lying around... unused.. ;D
I would insta-buy a Poker-compatible Eagle PCB and plate.
That's a given. The real question, is whether to buy one set, or two! :-*
Thanks for the support guys, it is still being worked.
Making a plate to support all the various layouts and yet include duck standoffs + regular 60% standoffs is tricky.
Can't launch before we figure this out.
Thanks for the support guys, it is still being worked.
Making a plate to support all the various layouts and yet include duck standoffs + regular 60% standoffs is tricky.
Can't launch before we figure this out.
Yeah, no worries. Cheers man for doing this.
Take your time. :)
When do you anticipate this to be shipped?
This is still worked on, sadly Leeku is very busy lately and has no time to work on it at the moment.
So yeah more delays :-[
Anyway it's something that will happen, I have a viper on the way, and may I be damned if I ever use it in ANSI :))
Layout that SHOULD be available (changes may occur, we want to offer a way to split the 7u spacebar too) :Show Image(http://puu.sh/kMn4t/7815ae0813.png)
Green ones are for the viper.
The pcbs will be named Vulture for the Eagle Replica and Cobra for the Viper Replica.
It does not make sense to offer the "Cobra" with no case; because, there is no HHKB style cases available, but GON's and Sprit's, the first is very expensive, and the second is not available now. Some may want to install it in regular 60% cases, but the corners should be filled with addons that will not look good, defeating the overall purpose of a HHKB style PCB that is mainly to look like an actual HHKB.
Maybe as an spare part for those that already owned a Viper, but that's it.
The Cobra is made to get into a duck Viper case, we don't plan to have standard 60% standoffs on the Cobra.
For HHKB style that are offered by GON and Winkeyless.kr AFAIK it's a standard 60% without corners removed, so the Vulture would work for it.
I don't know how the Srit's one is designed.
The Cobra is made to get into a duck Viper case, we don't plan to have standard 60% standoffs on the Cobra.
For HHKB style that are offered by GON and Winkeyless.kr AFAIK it's a standard 60% without corners removed, so the Vulture would work for it.
I don't know how the Srit's one is designed.
So if I were to get the hhkb layout case from winkeyless, it would fit this pcb then? I'm talking bout the Cobra :)
The Cobra is made to get into a duck Viper case, we don't plan to have standard 60% standoffs on the Cobra.
For HHKB style that are offered by GON and Winkeyless.kr AFAIK it's a standard 60% without corners removed, so the Vulture would work for it.
I don't know how the Srit's one is designed.
So if I were to get the hhkb layout case from winkeyless, it would fit this pcb then? I'm talking bout the Cobra :)
The Cobra is made to get into a duck Viper case, we don't plan to have standard 60% standoffs on the Cobra.
For HHKB style that are offered by GON and Winkeyless.kr AFAIK it's a standard 60% without corners removed, so the Vulture would work for it.
I don't know how the Srit's one is designed.
So if I were to get the hhkb layout case from winkeyless, it would fit this pcb then? I'm talking bout the Cobra :)
I just explained above that winkeyless.kr use regular 60% for his HHKB style cases. I'm not even sure a non winkeyless.kr pcb would work (I'm not certain on how it's mounted).
want so bad!
This is still worked on, sadly Leeku is very busy lately and has no time to work on it at the moment.
So yeah more delays :-[
Anyway it's something that will happen, I have a viper on the way, and may I be damned if I ever use it in ANSI :))
Layout that SHOULD be available (changes may occur, we want to offer a way to split the 7u spacebar too) :Show Image(http://puu.sh/kMn4t/7815ae0813.png)
Green ones are for the viper.
The pcbs will be named Vulture for the Eagle Replica and Cobra for the Viper Replica.
This is still worked on, sadly Leeku is very busy lately and has no time to work on it at the moment.
So yeah more delays :-[
Anyway it's something that will happen, I have a viper on the way, and may I be damned if I ever use it in ANSI :))
Layout that SHOULD be available (changes may occur, we want to offer a way to split the 7u spacebar too) :Show Image(http://puu.sh/kMn4t/7815ae0813.png)
Green ones are for the viper.
The pcbs will be named Vulture for the Eagle Replica and Cobra for the Viper Replica.
So will there be any option for having the 1u keys on the right hand side of the spacebar or is that completely out of the design?
Thanks for keeping up with this project anyhow. I'm very interested in a Cobra.
I don't have a Viper case, but I plan to get a custom woodcase build to spec-wise to support it.
Probably laser cut will be the easiest. I assume you will be posting the final PCB/measurement plans when this all goes through?
The viper case is also wanted !!
This is still worked on, sadly Leeku is very busy lately and has no time to work on it at the moment.
So yeah more delays :-[
Anyway it's something that will happen, I have a viper on the way, and may I be damned if I ever use it in ANSI :))
Layout that SHOULD be available (changes may occur, we want to offer a way to split the 7u spacebar too) :Show Image(http://puu.sh/kMn4t/7815ae0813.png)
Green ones are for the viper.
The pcbs will be named Vulture for the Eagle Replica and Cobra for the Viper Replica.
So will there be any option for having the 1u keys on the right hand side of the spacebar or is that completely out of the design?
Sadly this is out of the design since it gets in the way of the duck mouting positions.Thanks for keeping up with this project anyhow. I'm very interested in a Cobra.
I don't have a Viper case, but I plan to get a custom woodcase build to spec-wise to support it.
Probably laser cut will be the easiest. I assume you will be posting the final PCB/measurement plans when this all goes through?The viper case is also wanted !!
As of today, there is no plan to make case, and it would have to go through Duck approval anyway.
But I will be able to give measurment in the end.
Do you know what the price point will be?
If one does get the Cobra, would you simply be able to trim the plate/PCB to remove the unwanted area, or are those traces needed for other connectivity?
Also, for full disclosure, there was talk about making cases in this style (and others) in my thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75471). In thinking about this, a drop in style case would be ideal, but of course would only work if the PCB/Plate supports it. Having a case with a top and bottom shell is not quite as simple to make happen - at least not for me.
On the Cobra PCB/Plate, that will have a full bottom row? Not like the actual Viper? Just trying to understand how a case would work. If one does get the Cobra, would you simply be able to trim the plate/PCB to remove the unwanted area, or are those traces needed for other connectivity?This got discussed with leeku, there will be 2 differents pcb.
I'm interested in the Cobra, but not if I can't get a case in the style I'm after. Also, for full disclosure, there was talk about making cases in this style (and others) in my thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75471). In thinking about this, a drop in style case would be ideal, but of course would only work if the PCB/Plate supports it. Having a case with a top and bottom shell is not quite as simple to make happen - at least not for me.
I just now discovered the Duck Viper. I posted an IC for someone (other than myself) starting a new GB for the kit, and I was referred to your IC for just the PCB and Plate. You option appears to be the viable one, and I am interested.
My motivation is that my favorite form factor is 60% and my favorite layout is HHKB, but I am looking for a way to accommodate switches other than just Topre into such a keyboard. In particular, I am interested in Alps (and clones, such as Matias) and the relatively new mx clone, the Purple Zealio switches.
To summarize:
Layout: HHKB with split Right Shift (1.75 + 1.00) OR Eagle/Standard 60%, but with split Right Shift (1.75 + 1.00). However, I could live with a completely standard layout with the conventional 2.75 Right Shift and 1.25 mods on the bottom row.
Switches: Alps/Matias and/or Cherry mx (Zealio)
Stabilizers: Prefer plate-mounted Costar-type, but I could work with whatever goes with the Viper/Eagle plates and PCBs.
Plate Finish: Matte black preferred, but open to other finish types.
Case Compatibility: Standard, such as TEX 60% CNC case. Would want the Alps and Cherry Plates/PCBs to be compatible.
LEDs: I would prefer not to have LEDs.
Thanks for organizing this.
For the folks - such as myself - who weren't a part of the community at the time of the original Viper and Eagle GBs (or would just like another opportunity to get the board again), I wonder if you'd be able to combine this venture with Duck to get a relaunch but with Leeku's PCB?
I wonder if anyone else has similar thoughts.
I'm sure it's possible to have the case remade in some way. Not the exact same case, but at least something aluminum with the bottom keys, wouldn't it be? I, along with probably quite a few other people, would be more willing to join if an HHKB case would be possible.For the folks - such as myself - who weren't a part of the community at the time of the original Viper and Eagle GBs (or would just like another opportunity to get the board again), I wonder if you'd be able to combine this venture with Duck to get a relaunch but with Leeku's PCB?
I wonder if anyone else has similar thoughts.
I don't think that will be possible to have Viper case remade.
Pcb will be happening for sure, when is still uncertain.
I'm sure it's possible to have the case remade in some way. Not the exact same case, but at least something aluminum with the bottom keys, wouldn't it be? I, along with probably quite a few other people, would be more willing to join if an HHKB case would be possible.For the folks - such as myself - who weren't a part of the community at the time of the original Viper and Eagle GBs (or would just like another opportunity to get the board again), I wonder if you'd be able to combine this venture with Duck to get a relaunch but with Leeku's PCB?
I wonder if anyone else has similar thoughts.
I don't think that will be possible to have Viper case remade.
Pcb will be happening for sure, when is still uncertain.
Either way, still going to join because of the PCB :))
I'm sure it's possible to have the case remade in some way. Not the exact same case, but at least something aluminum with the bottom keys, wouldn't it be? I, along with probably quite a few other people, would be more willing to join if an HHKB case would be possible.For the folks - such as myself - who weren't a part of the community at the time of the original Viper and Eagle GBs (or would just like another opportunity to get the board again), I wonder if you'd be able to combine this venture with Duck to get a relaunch but with Leeku's PCB?
I wonder if anyone else has similar thoughts.
I don't think that will be possible to have Viper case remade.
Pcb will be happening for sure, when is still uncertain.
Either way, still going to join because of the PCB :))
Still interested, especially if Alps is an option.
More interested in Viper than Eagle, but only if it is possible to source a Viper case for the true HHKB look.
hey azhdar, could you give a short update?
Indeed; and if everything was Libre, this would be infinitely easier.No it wouldn't. The difficult part isn't the design; it's finding a good manufacturer.
Things have changed, this won't happen.
Things have changed, this won't happen.
Things have changed, this won't happen.
Things have changed, this won't happen.