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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #350 on: Thu, 10 May 2018, 11:15:51 »
Oh, jeez. I just saw this set. Definitely count me in. I've always loved the AEK typeface.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #351 on: Thu, 10 May 2018, 11:19:24 »
Definitely in as well. Will be buying 5 kits or so ( RIP wallet)

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« Reply #352 on: Thu, 10 May 2018, 12:16:14 »
Definitely in as well. Will be buying 5 kits or so ( RIP wallet)

Well it's XDA. Not sure what kits you got in mind but I had like 5-7 kits with the Canvas groupbuy and that was around 100-120$

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #353 on: Thu, 10 May 2018, 12:19:16 »
Definitely in as well. Will be buying 5 kits or so ( RIP wallet)

Well it's XDA. Not sure what kits you got in mind but I had like 5-7 kits with the Canvas groupbuy and that was around 100-120$

That's it?!

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #354 on: Thu, 10 May 2018, 12:25:23 »
Definitely in as well. Will be buying 5 kits or so ( RIP wallet)

Well it's XDA. Not sure what kits you got in mind but I had like 5-7 kits with the Canvas groupbuy and that was around 100-120$

That's it?!

Well it's no Hub, but it isn't SP SA either :))

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #355 on: Thu, 10 May 2018, 12:40:27 »
Definitely in as well. Will be buying 5 kits or so ( RIP wallet)

Well it's XDA. Not sure what kits you got in mind but I had like 5-7 kits with the Canvas groupbuy and that was around 100-120$

That's it?!

Well it's no Hub, but it isn't SP SA either :))

I was expecting double that for that amount of kits. I didn't joint the Canvas set, but I really like the typefaces used on them. 'Bout time we get some Apple love into the MX format.
I'm intrigued to try out XDA; I've heard mild things about them, but for the typefaces I'm definitely interested.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #356 on: Fri, 11 May 2018, 00:11:28 »
Definitely in as well. Will be buying 5 kits or so ( RIP wallet)

Well it's XDA. Not sure what kits you got in mind but I had like 5-7 kits with the Canvas groupbuy and that was around 100-120$

That's it?!

I mean you can just see the prices for the XDA Canvas kits here.
XDA is dye-sublimated, so a better comparison would be EnjoyPBT sets and the likes, which will cost you around, eh, $90 for a full-size set.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #357 on: Sun, 13 May 2018, 21:48:18 »
great looking set

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #358 on: Tue, 15 May 2018, 23:13:03 »
Is early June still the planned date? I'd love for this set to get popular and don't want it having to compete with XDA Canvas.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #359 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 00:36:07 »
The icon of delete, is so much different from backspace?
should they be same but only mirrored?
Or is there a guideline/standard for that?

I did a simple search in the replies,
but not have read through all the replies.
Pardon me if someone has mentioned this before.

   

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #360 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 01:13:55 »
Cool. Looks great!
Model M Industrial, SSK, Unicomp 104, Code TKL MX Green, FC660M MX Green + Clear + White + Grey, FC660C Topre 45g, MagicForce 68 USB and Bluetooth, Whitefox, some optical switch 65% Bluetooth split spacebar thing ... wait, I think I need an intervention. Too late, there’s a couple of new Model Fs on the way.
Too much SA is never enough.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #361 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 01:14:56 »
date ?

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« Reply #362 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 01:18:14 »
date ?
Sure. You pick the movie; I'll buy popcorn.

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« Reply #363 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 08:33:37 »
I'll buy popcorn.
Oh, sneaky!  ;) :))

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #364 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 10:44:52 »

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #366 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 13:37:56 »
date ?
Sure. You pick the movie; I'll buy popcorn.

hahahahaha :P

Movie + dinner + dancing = ?

a queen?

Joke aside, do you know how thicc they will be?

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #367 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 14:29:52 »
They're good, check this out:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7xn3dr/xda_canvas_vs_sentraq_xda_blanks/

My Canvas set are about the same as that image.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #368 on: Wed, 16 May 2018, 15:38:22 »
date ?
Sure. You pick the movie; I'll buy popcorn.

hahahahaha :P

Movie + dinner + dancing = ?

a queen?

Joke aside, do you know how thicc they will be?

No, I don't have XDA sets yet. This would be my first one.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #369 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 09:21:05 »
Oh my god I NEED this set. How do I get it??



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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #370 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 09:33:13 »
How do I get it??

With patience right now.
It's not in GB phase yet, but will be on zFrontier soonTM.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #371 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 10:10:33 »
Update time:

zFrontier have brought forward some potential issues with our manufacturer, so we are switching to a different dye-sub manufacturer. This means that the samples aren't really useful any more. zF are in the process of requesting new samples and quotes from this new manufacturer. Because this new manufacturer doesn't do dip-dyeing the accent keys will also be coloured plastic.

Also, with Canvas R2 coming soon, probably not long after Serika, we will try to launch this sooner than previously expectedTM.

We will still be running through zFrontier, MyKeyboard.eu, Dixie Mech, and MechKeys.ca ;D
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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #372 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 10:15:05 »
Update time:

zFrontier have brought forward some potential issues with our manufacturer, so we are switching to a different dye-sub manufacturer. This means that the samples aren't really useful any more. zF are in the process of requesting new samples and quotes from this new manufacturer. Because this new manufacturer doesn't do dip-dyeing the accent keys will also be coloured plastic.

Also, with Canvas R2 coming soon, probably not long after Serika, we will try to launch this sooner than previously expectedTM.

We will still be running through zFrontier, MyKeyboard.eu, Dixie Mech, and MechKeys.ca ;D
hope the new samples turn out great  ;)

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #373 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 11:09:24 »
Quote
Also, with Canvas R2 coming soon, probably not long after Serika, we will try to launch this sooner than previously expectedTM.

yay!

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #374 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 11:31:38 »
Update time:

zFrontier have brought forward some potential issues with our manufacturer, so we are switching to a different dye-sub manufacturer. This means that the samples aren't really useful any more. zF are in the process of requesting new samples and quotes from this new manufacturer. Because this new manufacturer doesn't do dip-dyeing the accent keys will also be coloured plastic.

Also, with Canvas R2 coming soon, probably not long after Serika, we will try to launch this sooner than previously expectedTM.

We will still be running through zFrontier, MyKeyboard.eu, Dixie Mech, and MechKeys.ca ;D

Wait, why run sooner if Canvas is running? Wont' that conflict since this is the same profile, etc?

Either way, I'm very excited. I much prefer this over Canvas.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #375 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 11:32:58 »
Wait, why run sooner if Canvas is running? Wont' that conflict since this is the same profile, etc?

Either way, I'm very excited. I much prefer this over Canvas.

We're hoping to run before Canvas rather than at the same time
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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (samples arrived)
« Reply #376 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 11:42:25 »
Wait, why run sooner if Canvas is running? Wont' that conflict since this is the same profile, etc?

Either way, I'm very excited. I much prefer this over Canvas.

We're hoping to run before Canvas rather than at the same time

Okay, sounds great.
I'm surprised you're able to run this still on schedule considering you have to go with a different dye-subber, but I'm very excited and will place an order probably the same day as it starts.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #377 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 11:47:50 »
Does anyone know what this would look like on a white HHKB?  I want to put it on  mine, but don't know if it'll be too dark or if I should paint the board

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #378 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 12:07:30 »
Does anyone know what this would look like on a white HHKB?  I want to put it on  mine, but don't know if it'll be too dark or if I should paint the board

"Unfortunately there are no 6u center-stem spacebars or convex 1u spacebar keys in XDA profile, so bad news for the HHKB and ortho users that requested them"

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #379 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 12:24:38 »
Could a SP-DSA 6u space bar may fit in this set?

Could someone may prepare a render of XDA Oblique on a TMO-50 board? It is a nice upcoming board that may use Oblique well.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #380 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 12:33:07 »
Could a SP-DSA 6u space bar may fit in this set?

This would be the best solution, but it might be difficult to match the colour exactly
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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #381 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 12:35:36 »
Could a SP-DSA 6u space bar may fit in this set?

This would be the best solution, but it might be difficult to match the colour exactly

It is a shame. But I also think that the finishing of SP's molds do not really match the XDA's one, so it may be an unfitting solution, anyway.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #382 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 12:36:34 »
Could a SP-DSA 6u space bar may fit in this set?

This would be the best solution, but it might be difficult to match the colour exactly

It is a shame. But I also think that the finishing of SP's molds do not really match the XDA's one, so it may be an unfitting solution, anyway.

It would still look a lot better than a stock Topre spacebar IMO
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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #383 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 12:38:42 »
Could a SP-DSA 6u space bar may fit in this set?

This would be the best solution, but it might be difficult to match the colour exactly

It is a shame. But I also think that the finishing of SP's molds do not really match the XDA's one, so it may be an unfitting solution, anyway.

It would still look a lot better than a stock Topre spacebar IMO

Indeed. It may worth exploring it then. I am planning to put Oblique on keyboards that do not require the 6u, but having one, makes no harm.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #384 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 20:13:28 »
New to this whole group buy thing, but i'm so very interested.
Looks amazing! :thumb:
ah.

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« Reply #385 on: Thu, 17 May 2018, 21:48:09 »
glorious!

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #386 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 02:28:36 »
This is definitely a must buy for me. Have always liked AEK keycaps but can't afford an alps board or the AEK caps. Looking forward to this!

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #387 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 13:28:59 »
I suggest to add a 2.25 and 2.75 keys to the blank set.

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« Reply #388 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 16:27:03 »
I suggest to add a 2.25 and 2.75 keys to the blank set.

For what? if you need it as space you have the 40's compatibility or the space bars kit, and the "one more thing..." work great if you don't want "Return" or "shift" on your key

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« Reply #389 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 18:59:52 »
I suggest to add a 2.25 and 2.75 keys to the blank set.

For what? if you need it as space you have the 40's compatibility or the space bars kit, and the "one more thing..." work great if you don't want "Return" or "shift" on your key

The blank kit is the most flexible solution for 40's and 50's. Including the small "space bars" turns it into a one-kit-for-most-layouts solution. Buying multiple kits to populate one layout makes no sense for such small keyboards.

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« Reply #390 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 21:00:21 »
I suggest to add a 2.25 and 2.75 keys to the blank set.

For what? if you need it as space you have the 40's compatibility or the space bars kit, and the "one more thing..." work great if you don't want "Return" or "shift" on your key

The blank kit is the most flexible solution for 40's and 50's. Including the small "space bars" turns it into a one-kit-for-most-layouts solution. Buying multiple kits to populate one layout makes no sense for such small keyboards.

You could say the same thing about people using WKL and HHKB layouts having to buy the spacebar kit "just" for the 7u spacebar

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #391 on: Sat, 19 May 2018, 23:41:10 »
I suggest to add a 2.25 and 2.75 keys to the blank set.

For what? if you need it as space you have the 40's compatibility or the space bars kit, and the "one more thing..." work great if you don't want "Return" or "shift" on your key

The blank kit is the most flexible solution for 40's and 50's. Including the small "space bars" turns it into a one-kit-for-most-layouts solution. Buying multiple kits to populate one layout makes no sense for such small keyboards.

You could say the same thing about people using WKL and HHKB layouts having to buy the spacebar kit "just" for the 7u spacebar

You have voiced your opinion as I did it. Let the OP to answer if he wants. Or simple leave the set as it is. But, we do not have to agree, I just explained my reasoning and there is no need to continue the discussion.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #392 on: Sun, 20 May 2018, 03:25:13 »
I suggest to add a 2.25 and 2.75 keys to the blank set.

For what? if you need it as space you have the 40's compatibility or the space bars kit, and the "one more thing..." work great if you don't want "Return" or "shift" on your key

The blank kit is the most flexible solution for 40's and 50's. Including the small "space bars" turns it into a one-kit-for-most-layouts solution. Buying multiple kits to populate one layout makes no sense for such small keyboards.

Ok, I understand. Personally I don't really care it my keys are labelled correctly, i prefer to have something on it than nothing, for the look, and qwerty only have one key where it is on the layout i use.
But for people that prefer to have blank that bad label (or, don't want to pay for the 40's kit) it seems fair enough to ad it.


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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #393 on: Sun, 20 May 2018, 09:02:41 »
I suggest to add a 2.25 and 2.75 keys to the blank set.

The blanks kit is intended for weird layouts that the other kits just don't cover. Since they are included in other kits I'm not going to add them. If I did I'd have to add full 40% support to the blanks kit and that's just not what it's meant for.

If you want 2.25/2.75 spacebars without the 40% kit you could get the spacebars kit, it'll be a bit cheaper ;D
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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #394 on: Sun, 20 May 2018, 10:50:21 »
The blanks kit is intended for weird layouts that the other kits just don't cover. Since they are included in other kits I'm not going to add them. If I did I'd have to add full 40% support to the blanks kit and that's just not what it's meant for.

If you want 2.25/2.75 spacebars without the 40% kit you could get the spacebars kit, it'll be a bit cheaper ;D

Does that mean you have quote of the price ?

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #395 on: Sun, 20 May 2018, 11:23:36 »
The blanks kit is intended for weird layouts that the other kits just don't cover. Since they are included in other kits I'm not going to add them. If I did I'd have to add full 40% support to the blanks kit and that's just not what it's meant for.

If you want 2.25/2.75 spacebars without the 40% kit you could get the spacebars kit, it'll be a bit cheaper ;D

Does that mean you have quote of the price ?

No, but a smaller kit with no legends is always going to be cheaper than a bigger kit with dye-sub legends :))
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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #396 on: Sun, 20 May 2018, 16:38:47 »
I suggest to add a 2.25 and 2.75 keys to the blank set.

The blanks kit is intended for weird layouts that the other kits just don't cover. Since they are included in other kits I'm not going to add them. If I did I'd have to add full 40% support to the blanks kit and that's just not what it's meant for.

If you want 2.25/2.75 spacebars without the 40% kit you could get the spacebars kit, it'll be a bit cheaper ;D

Thank you for the answer. Let's see how prices come.

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #397 on: Mon, 21 May 2018, 20:30:43 »
I'm coming into this a little late, but I'm definitely in for this.

Very excited!

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #398 on: Wed, 23 May 2018, 06:58:41 »
Hey, I'm looking forward to this gb going live, but I do have one more question that I think it's always worth bringing up:

AFAIK, XDA currently do not currently offer homing bumps or bars, only scooped homing keys. Is there ANY chance of getting bumps or bars on this set? Can you ask the manufacturer if it's something they could do for us, or in general for the future?

Heh, I'm not asking for much eh?  ;D

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Re: [IC] XDA Oblique (Soon™)
« Reply #399 on: Wed, 23 May 2018, 08:04:31 »
Hey, I'm looking forward to this gb going live, but I do have one more question that I think it's always worth bringing up:

AFAIK, XDA currently do not currently offer homing bumps or bars, only scooped homing keys. Is there ANY chance of getting bumps or bars on this set? Can you ask the manufacturer if it's something they could do for us, or in general for the future?

Heh, I'm not asking for much eh?  ;D

They don't currently offer them. I'm not sure if they will in future since it would require new moulds and bumps are generally awkward when it comes to dye subbing.

If you prefer to have bumps you could do a mod like this using a ball bearing as a homing key.
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