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Title: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - Not meet MOQ, Move to interesting check
Post by: cocobrais on Fri, 19 October 2018, 19:53:47
GMK Handarbeit didn't meet MOQ so it's going back to IC, this thread will be locked!
GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set

Hey, Guys!
Here I come back again with GMK Handarbeit+ is one of the most interesting keyset.

This is GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set GB.

Inspired by G81-3000HBD OG Handarbeit keyboard.
Some years ago, G81-3000HBD OG keyboard with various colorful double shot keycap was found by Ruseupi.
Its housing had engrave as 'Handarbeit', and many users have called this keyboard as just "Handarbeit".

About 2 years ago, I designed this set and finally this set come true!
Just join this GB to get legendary keyset!!


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IC : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97198.0
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[OG G81-3000HBD Handarbeit]
(https://i.imgur.com/ApX7iNS.png)
Captured From Ruseupi's blog http://pinchocodia.tistory.com/17 (http://pinchocodia.tistory.com/17)


[3D renderings]
(https://i.imgur.com/capj4Xz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/b29S0T5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/p3fHRtS.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/WO2y3X4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/K5Pt4j5.png)
Special thanks to Oblotzky for Rendering!

[How to order?]
These are available through US TXkeyboards and EU Mykeyboard and CN(+remained countries) zfrontier
- United States : TX keyboards - https://txkeyboards.com/en/products/gmk-handarbeit-detail (https://txkeyboards.com/en/products/gmk-handarbeit-detail)
- Europe : Mykeyboard - https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-handarbeit-us-legends-kit_775/ (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-handarbeit-us-legends-kit_775/)
- China : zfrontier -  https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4881 (https://www.zfrontier.com/m/4881)
- Whole countries excepting US, EU and China : zfrontier EN - https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keysets/products/gmk_handarbeit (https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keysets/products/gmk_handarbeit)
** Some web page will be opened soon. Now work to make the page.     
     
[Kit Design]

Handarbeit+ M kit (Modified kit)
(https://i.imgur.com/e7aWwDn.jpg)

Handarbeit+ R kit (OG Replica kit)
(https://i.imgur.com/LTBo5Rg.jpg)

Icon modi & Led kit

(https://i.imgur.com/SrZz2BS.png)

[GB Price]
- North America: TXkeyboards
  - Handarbeit+ M Kit : $150 + Paypal Fee    @150MOQ
  - Handarbeit+ R Kit : $120 + Paypal Fee     @100MOQ
  - Icon Modi & Led Kit: $65 + Paypal Fee      @100MOQ

- Europe: MykeyboardEU (prices including VAT & Paypal Fee)
  - Handarbeit+ M Kit : 141.99€      @150MOQ
  - Handarbeit+ R Kit : 116€           @100MOQ
  - Icon Modi & Led Kit: 62€            @100MOQ

- China: ZFrontier
  - Handarbeit+ M Kit : ¥1098         @150MOQ
  - Handarbeit+ R Kit : ¥898           @100MOQ
  - Icon Modi & Led Kit: ¥476          @100MOQ

- Asia (Korea, Japan, SEA...), Australia, and New Zealand: ZFrontier (prices including Paypal Fee)
  - Handarbeit+ M Kit : $172          @150MOQ
  - Handarbeit+ R Kit : $142          @100MOQ
  - Icon Modi & Led Kit: $70           @100MOQ
 *Note: ZFrontier has free shipping via DHL Express for orders over $100.


[MOQ]
 MOQs are below
 - Handarbeit+ M kit : 150 set
 - Handarbeit+ R kit : 100 set
 - Icon modi & LED kit : 100 set

[Time line]
- 20th Octobar /2018 : GB open        ---------- GB Global Counts will be updated in first my reply.
- 24th November / 2018 : GB closed
- 7th December / 2018 : GMK invoicing & Payment to GMK
- Mid of April / 2019 : Shipping (Expected)
* Time line is approximately estimated. Every news will be updated.

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set
Post by: cocobrais on Fri, 19 October 2018, 19:54:04
[04,11,2018]
M 21
R 7
Modi 5

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: Signature on Sat, 20 October 2018, 08:25:28
Approved! Will try to help with the pics :D

Edit: Ok did the most improtant pictures, but I still need a picture for the GB pricing.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 20 October 2018, 11:44:08
It's time!!! Let's go!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: hansichen on Sat, 20 October 2018, 11:57:36
In for one German set. I hope we'll hit moq  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: Khers on Sat, 20 October 2018, 13:38:37
I'm in! Let's do this!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: blighty on Sat, 20 October 2018, 13:50:59
I keep telling myself no more keysets.  Ah well.  In for the M kit.  I think I'll have to start buying boards just to put keycaps on...  LOL
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: NorrisB on Sat, 20 October 2018, 14:01:57
Why is the R kit ISO ?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Sat, 20 October 2018, 14:17:36
Damn that's hideous. With that said, I'll be placing an order soon.  :p
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sat, 20 October 2018, 16:24:33
Why is the R kit ISO ?


the OG board was ISO (on which this is based)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 20 October 2018, 18:11:24
I might be in, love handarbeit
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Sat, 20 October 2018, 18:17:57
Approved! Will try to help with the pics :D

Edit: Ok did the most improtant pictures, but I still need a picture for the GB pricing.
Thanks for approval and editing pics. Haha
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Sat, 20 October 2018, 19:57:24
Why is the R kit ISO ?
R kit is replica kit. OG kbd is ISO DE layout and R5 winkeyless.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: kokokoy on Sat, 20 October 2018, 22:56:17
Nice, its finally happening!  :thumb: Placing an R order around Nov.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Sun, 21 October 2018, 02:05:10
Nice, its finally happening!  :thumb: Placing an R order around Nov.
Ye!! Finally happening! Just participate and if you have some friends like this set, please introduce this GB!! Important thing is to reach the MOQ!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: . on Sun, 21 October 2018, 10:09:21
bought a kit instantly. no ragrets.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: blighty on Sun, 21 October 2018, 11:13:09
I cross posted this to deskthority, hopefully it helps visibility a bit toward MOQ...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Sun, 21 October 2018, 17:38:15
I cross posted this to deskthority, hopefully it helps visibility a bit toward MOQ...
Thanks for your help to reach the MOQ. In this stage, we have to focus to reach the MOQ.
This set is lovely to me but I don't know how many people like this. It's time to test how many like Handarbeit!
If you have some friends like this set, please introduce this GB. Thanks again. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: NorrisB on Sun, 21 October 2018, 19:11:25
(https://i.imgur.com/Dy4Um2E.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/fTjzBT7.png)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: LifeZ on Sun, 21 October 2018, 19:11:51
I am very excited.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Sun, 21 October 2018, 19:17:21
I am very excited.
just join bro....
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: NorrisB on Sun, 21 October 2018, 19:38:50
I am very excited.
just join bro....

Update your original post with actual photos those like the ones I gave those renders are awful
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Sun, 21 October 2018, 19:44:32
I am very excited.
just join bro....

Update your original post with actual photos those like the ones I gave those renders are awful
Originally I posted this thread with actual photos but it has some problems in GH server. But I will again. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: amnesia0287 on Mon, 22 October 2018, 03:29:12
Sincerely I don't understand the pricing.

I'm the owner of a GMK TA set, and this costs much more than that. No, you can't blame the usd/eur change since I bought it in euro. And a recent bw set from massdrop had a much much much lower price too.

And about the guy that says that the renders are horrible, yes they are really horrible. Please OP, replace them with the actual pictures of the set and you'll have more success  :thumb:

This set is cheap in USD. Was expecting higher. GMK has a per color cost. This set has a lot of colors.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Mon, 22 October 2018, 03:55:52
Sincerely I don't understand the pricing.

I'm the owner of a GMK TA set, and this costs much more than that. No, you can't blame the usd/eur change since I bought it in euro. And a recent bw set from massdrop had a much much much lower price too.

The maximum price increase, for an almost arbitrary number of colors is 10/15 eur.

And about the guy that says that the renders are horrible, yes they are really horrible. Please OP, replace them with the actual pictures of the set and you'll have more success  :thumb:
Actual pictures were updated.
And Regarding price, it is cheaper than my expectation. Many users have mentioned why GB price is higher than massdrop in other GBs.
1. Maybe you got the TA in massdrop before about 3 years ago and TA GB was reached to very high MOQ. (in my understanding, maybe over 1000)
2. Let me see... for example, in case of US, 150usd@150set. But if MOQ 250, 140usd@250. next MOQ is 500 and if 500??, maybe 130~135. if 1000?, maybe about 120~125usd.
    I don't know exactly but may if we will reach to 1000 set, 120usd would be possible. (maybe more cheap....)

Please see the other GBs and compare this exceting massdrop.

It is difficult to compare between all sets because all sets are different as num of keys, color scheme, LED caps or not, new mold or not......not easy but I think that this price is reasonable...
(As I mentioned before, it is cheaper than my expectation)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 22 October 2018, 07:04:17


Sincerely I don't understand the pricing.

I'm the owner of a GMK TA set, and this costs much more than that. No, you can't blame the usd/eur change since I bought it in euro. And a recent bw set from massdrop had a much much much lower price too.

The maximum price increase, for an almost arbitrary number of colors is 10/15 eur.

And about the guy that says that the renders are horrible, yes they are really horrible. Please OP, replace them with the actual pictures of the set and you'll have more success  :thumb:

Hard to compare these prices as back 3 years ago when GMK really operated so differently.

This set also has a bunch of colors. TA just had 2. As for white on black on Massdrop, Massdrop also purchases a lot of units and its business model relies on the "drop" system that is meant to subsidize costs. It's why it has had success and bigger reach commercially.

You should keep in mind also that the main set has quite a lot of compatibility, and prices will increase per key added.

Sent from my mobile using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: avid on Mon, 22 October 2018, 07:20:40
Considering how many colors this set use, it turned out much cheaper than i expected!  :thumb:

Love this set, great buy.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Mon, 22 October 2018, 07:57:11
Staring score is not good but we have one month...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 22 October 2018, 20:58:33
For the "rest of world" page, you have listed: https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-handarbeit

The actual page seems to be: https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keysets/products/gmk_handarbeit
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Mon, 22 October 2018, 22:11:44
For the "rest of world" page, you have listed: https://en.zfrontier.com/products/gmk-handarbeit

The actual page seems to be: https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keysets/products/gmk_handarbeit
Thanks for the information. I changed.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: romevi on Mon, 22 October 2018, 23:54:08
Mein Gott.  A dream komm true. I'd totes be all over this if I still used keebs at home, but these days the only computers I use that require a separate keyboard is at work, and Handarbeit would feel widely out of place there.  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: bard on Tue, 23 October 2018, 11:50:23
My 4yrs daughter just told me that she wants a keeb with these caps  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: typischt on Tue, 23 October 2018, 14:24:48
I don't know. In Europe, buying from zfrontier is cheaper than the European site.
On the european site, VAT ist most certainly already included.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: . on Tue, 23 October 2018, 15:25:01
I don't know. In Europe, buying from zfrontier is cheaper than the European site.
Not when you add shipping and VAT.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: ArchDill on Tue, 23 October 2018, 15:52:18
The last time a joke went this far, we got our current president...
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: mrkevint on Tue, 23 October 2018, 17:54:04
Such an awesome key cap set... it's grown on me lol.

I'll be in for a M kit before the deadline. Really hope it makes MOQ!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: blighty on Tue, 23 October 2018, 20:20:10
The last time a joke went this far, we got our current president...

So, you've already bought your set(s)? :)
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: darthzero on Wed, 24 October 2018, 01:26:20
Just ordered the R. Will get the M "next month" and another R if nothing else comes up/funds are there  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Wed, 24 October 2018, 02:30:37
Such an awesome key cap set... it's grown on me lol.

I'll be in for a M kit before the deadline. Really hope it makes MOQ!
Thanks. We can do that.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Wed, 24 October 2018, 02:31:25
Just ordered the R. Will get the M "next month" and another R if nothing else comes up/funds are there  :thumb:
Wow..Thanks for your order and future orders ;D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Thu, 25 October 2018, 21:13:15
M 13 R 5 Modi 3..... :(
But we have still 4 weeks. Hope to reach MOQ.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 25 October 2018, 21:36:44
M 13 R 5 Modi 3..... :(
But we have still 4 weeks. Hope to reach MOQ.

yeesh

here's hoping
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 25 October 2018, 23:23:56
I’m probably gonna get 1-2 of the normal kits and maybe a retro one. Just waiting towards the end cause I’ve destroyed my wallet this month.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Fri, 26 October 2018, 03:54:03
Now M 16 R 6 modi 4
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: . on Fri, 26 October 2018, 04:28:41
Now M 16 R 6 modi 4
I've seen a lot of people saying they have to wait until they get paid, so let's hope that's the case and we will reach MOQ  :D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Fri, 26 October 2018, 04:38:39
Now M 16 R 6 modi 4
I've seen a lot of people saying they have to wait until they get paid, so let's hope that's the case and we will reach MOQ  :D
Yes...I also expect next month.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: monkt on Fri, 26 October 2018, 10:20:39
Was this posted on deskthority and reddit? Might help get some more sales.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Fri, 26 October 2018, 10:22:20
Was this posted on deskthority and reddit? Might help get some more sales.
yes. It was already posted..
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Mon, 29 October 2018, 09:32:05
M 17
R 6
Modi 5

Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: ___q on Mon, 29 October 2018, 10:49:25
M 17
R 6
Modi 5

Is this including all of the proxies? The difference between the previous count and this count (+1/+0/+1) is smaller than my order (1/1/1), but maybe someone canceled.

I really want this set to make it  :(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Mon, 29 October 2018, 17:18:54
M 17
R 6
Modi 5

Is this including all of the proxies? The difference between the previous count and this count (+1/+0/+1) is smaller than my order (1/1/1), but maybe someone canceled.

I really want this set to make it  :(
All proxies counts were including. I also so sad. Just wait to ilbe increased in next month.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Thu, 01 November 2018, 17:30:21
Current counts.
M : 18
R : 6
Modi : 5

Very low and slow...but we have still 3weeks. Hope to reach to MOQ and make this beautiful set.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Fri, 02 November 2018, 22:15:34
Current counts.
M : 18
R : 6
Modi : 5

Very low and slow...but we have still 3weeks. Hope to reach to MOQ and make this beautiful set.
Just stop this counts. Alot of keyset GBs have been running but we have still 3 weeks. I believe that this legendary keyset will come true....Just join this GB!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: yicaoyimu on Sat, 03 November 2018, 23:39:28
Just put an order for 2 sets of M and 1 set of R. This is my end game GMK set and I really hope it can make it. I think a lot of people jump on Massdrop GMK carbon though so I won't hold my breath. The fact that GMK would even consider doing all the custom color is a very positive sign. If not this time, we will definitely see Handarbeit next time around. Finger crossed!
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: romevi on Sat, 03 November 2018, 23:42:12
Ugh. I'd totally buy if this were 2016 romevi when I had a full home office setup. But I have only a work setup and this wouldn't bode well in my current work environment.  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Sun, 04 November 2018, 02:49:39
Just put an order for 2 sets of M and 1 set of R. This is my end game GMK set and I really hope it can make it. I think a lot of people jump on Massdrop GMK carbon though so I won't hold my breath. The fact that GMK would even consider doing all the custom color is a very positive sign. If not this time, we will definitely see Handarbeit next time around. Finger crossed!
Thanks for the participants.
Current M 21 R 7  modi 5
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: OracleKev on Sun, 04 November 2018, 19:12:19
I haven't put in my orders yet, but definitely will do.  This is such a unique set  :thumb:  I'm going to chip in and see what happens.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Sun, 04 November 2018, 21:38:40
I haven't put in my orders yet, but definitely will do.  This is such a unique set  :thumb:  I'm going to chip in and see what happens.
Thanks OracleKev! Hope to join GB with many qty order.....  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Tue, 06 November 2018, 02:37:12
Today update.
M : 24
R : 8
Modi : 7

Some couple of sets were participated but some orders were canceled. So not much to be increased.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Fri, 09 November 2018, 23:06:09
Today
M 25
R 8
Modi 8

2 weeks remained.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: sagadoi on Sat, 17 November 2018, 02:22:44
Any update?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: cocobrais on Sun, 18 November 2018, 21:52:44
Any update?
Sorry for late update. Last week I was business trip.
Today
M 26
R 9
Modi 9

Very low counts. I will check final counts this weekend, and decide to extension period or decide to move to interesting check again. 
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open
Post by: sagadoi on Mon, 19 November 2018, 00:44:27
Any update?
Sorry for late update. Last week I was business trip.
Today
M 26
R 9
Modi 9

Very low counts. I will check final counts this weekend, and decide to extension period or decide to move to interesting check again.

Thanks very much.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open - Last week
Post by: txclack on Sat, 24 November 2018, 12:31:51
GB is supposed to close today... any word if it will be extended?  Or will it just be cancelled?

Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open - Last week
Post by: hansichen on Mon, 26 November 2018, 13:01:18
I guess we can expect refunds soon? Any news by the organizer?
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open - Last week
Post by: cocobrais on Mon, 26 November 2018, 16:24:57
GB is supposed to close today... any word if it will be extended?  Or will it just be cancelled?

Thanks
sorry for late reply. Currently I am checking final number.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open - Last week
Post by: cocobrais on Tue, 27 November 2018, 07:21:18
Long time no update.
Final counts are
- M 32
- R 10
- Modi 12

I think that timing is not good. (end year season.)

Gap between counts and MOQ is very big. So proxies can't absorb extra.
So I decide to move this GB to interesting check again. And I will try to progress this GB again.
Sorry to particaipants.

Today I will request refund to proxies. So if participants paid already, they will receive refund from proxies.

Thanks   
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - GB Open - Last week
Post by: Khers on Tue, 27 November 2018, 13:26:15
This is a sad day, but I’m just as in next time around! Handarbeit+ was my keyset of the year 2018, by a wide margin.
Title: Re: [GB] GMK Handarbeit+ Keycap set - Not meet MOQ, Move to interesting check
Post by: odd on Tue, 27 November 2018, 16:55:24
How did this fail  :(