The Official iTunes sucks thread

[baldgye]

Alright, this is the official place to ***** and complain about the total ****ing garbage that is itunes, case in point, I had organised/curated playlists that I made for my top tracks of that year (lists you can see here. As you can see I started it in 2008 and have continued to do it until this year (2015 was in progress). Since the update however iTunes has renamed and created a whole bunch of new playlists that I never wanted or created;




Why do I now have 5 2016 playlists? I think one of them MIGHT be the 2015 playlist I was putting together but I've got no idea, where the **** are the other playlists I made? Bearing in mind those are automatic playlists I used to help my curate my main list, all totally ****ed, thanks to iTunes.

Now looking at the playlists I actually made by hand, I notice I have two 2015 lists, why the **** do I have two, and why the **** is one double the size of the other?!





Why the **** has iTunes even touched my ****ing playlists?! I never asked it too, it's even worse on my phone with the new Apple Music app I can ONLY for some ****ed up reason see some random playlists (and yes you guessed it most of those are all 5 of those random 2016 playlists).

Why the **** are Apple letting people with weapons grade autism code and work on there biggest ****ing application?!

[baldgye]

I also see that they totally changed the interface for sync'ing with your phone, so now you have literally zero control over putting music on your phone... what the ****

[azhdar]

Only wish Itunes would eat flac. Tired of converting it to stupid alac.

I haven't done yesterday update yet. Maybe I shouldn't.

[baldgye]

Only wish Itunes would eat flac. Tired of converting it to stupid alac.

I haven't done yesterday update yet. Maybe I shouldn't.

If your a heavy playlist user, don't it's ****ing trash. This is the new options/management screen for managing what music is transfered to your iphone;



if I didn't have a device big enough for all my itunes music, I would be having a ****ing hernia right about now

[demik]

**** their new music app also

[Coreda]

Pity everyone who finds iTunes sucks can't switch to anything else.

[baldgye]

If you can show me another audio program that is able to manage your music and has a store connected to it with most music and can send all that stuff to my phone I'll sign up right now

[bueller]

**** iTunes. Complete resource hog and I can't stand apps that try and take control of my files. I use VOX for local music and spotify for web streaming, running an Android so I can just drag and drop songs on my phone.

[dustinhxc]

That sucks man.. I have to upgrade my phone too.. I've been using google play music for 2 months and it rocks.

[bazh]

still staying at 12.1


but Apple Music in my place is only $3/month, I guess that's nice...

[PunksDead]

i keep breaking ipods and i spent a good time loading music into my iphone 5.

just bought an iphone 6 and have no interest in keeping with itunes,

i have been very happy with Pandora as a replacement if anyone has better alternatives hit me up.

[Belfong]

Just turn off iCloud Music Library when you launch the new iTunes or Apple Music (on the phone) and you'll be fine.

It's still a piece of crap.

But turning off will not screw up the playlist or your songs.

[baldgye]

Problem i have with data plans for music, is your super limited by genre and artist & then even more so by signal

[nubbinator]

Zune software >>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes


I was sad when I was gifted an iPod Touch instead of a Zune back in the day.  iTunes is such a piece of **** no matter what OS you're using.  It's so counter-intuitive and such a pain.

[Belfong]

Zune software >>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes


I was sad when I was gifted an iPod Touch instead of a Zune back in the day.  iTunes is such a piece of **** no matter what OS you're using.  It's so counter-intuitive and such a pain.

it's the abusive wife you can't get rid off.. because of the kids (iPhones)..

[baldgye]

Zune software >>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes


I was sad when I was gifted an iPod Touch instead of a Zune back in the day.  iTunes is such a piece of **** no matter what OS you're using.  It's so counter-intuitive and such a pain.

The launch Zune software, the v2 was total garbage

[dustinhxc]

Problem i have with data plans for music, is your super limited by genre and artist & then even more so by signal

I've been able to find everything except some mix tapes on Google play. I've only had signal cut out a couple times. I'm on sprint. It's probably way different there though. But also they give you 80gb free cloud storage for your own music that isn't on there.

[baldgye]

Problem i have with data plans for music, is your super limited by genre and artist & then even more so by signal

I've been able to find everything except some mix tapes on Google play. I've only had signal cut out a couple times. I'm on sprint. It's probably way different there though. But also they give you 80gb free cloud storage for your own music that isn't on there.

Yeah, but I'm like a legit hipster

[baldgye]

Also, should be noted that they seemingly (for no obvious reason) changed the time period for 'Recently Added' music, which seems to span the last 3-4 months now... not sure why...

[baldgye]

I still can't get playlists that I have on iTunes sync with my phone, at all, I'm not the only one too; https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7104625?start=0&tstart=0

It's even more ****ed up that they decided to remove the option to make your own playlists on the device... like what the **** is wrong with the software team

[twiddle]

Gotta admit, I use foobar2k for actual listening and managing stuff on my PC and only touch iTunes when I need to copy audio over to my iDevices.
Then again, I avoid playlists and syncing and use the manual management function, because iTunes is so horrible at what it does.

[baldgye]

I have over 90gb of music on my phone, playlists are essential lol

[Sirakain]

Why I used to have and iphone, I used Copytrans Manager, not sure if it still works. UI was a bit old, but it did its job.

[baldgye]

I imagine that the newest update to the Music App and how it 'manages' music would have probably broken all 3rd party stuff

[Belfong]

I still can't get playlists that I have on iTunes sync with my phone, at all, I'm not the only one too; https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7104625?start=0&tstart=0

It's even more ****ed up that they decided to remove the option to make your own playlists on the device... like what the **** is wrong with the software team

I'm not sure. I can create playlist:

[Belfong]

Wow, I just found I can create a playlist and add other playlist into it! That's super cool.

[slip84]

I must be the only person on this planet who doesn't use playlists.

So far, I have not experienced any of the horrible 12.2 bugs.

[baldgye]

Ahh nice one Belfong! I missed that haha

[beehatch]

Ha, iTunes is complete trash. I only use it to sync music then I make a playlist on my phone.

Foobar is meh thang to listen to music on pc though.

[nothing4me]

I can't give up iTunes. My favorite thing is creating dynamic playlists with their GUI. It's just so damn easy. Haven't run into any problems whatsoever. Also, I like their metadata system too (you can choose what time songs start and end, so you can trim music without modifying your music files).

[Belfong]

I love Apple Music.. That's enough to like iTunes at this moment.

[baldgye]

>buys albums from Amazon
>updates iphone
>wont sync the music to my phone
>update itunes
>those albums refuse to go across to my phone
>buys album on itunes store
>auto sync's it to my phone before I've even asked it too
>amazon bought albums still wont sync


seems to be pretty legit that now Apple won't let you sync albums bought anywhere but on iTunes to your iphone... how can that even be legal?

[THSdrummer]

Only wish Itunes would eat flac. Tired of converting it to stupid alac.

I haven't done yesterday update yet. Maybe I shouldn't.

When I started picking up more and more FLAC I left iTunes behind for good*. I use FooBar2000 on my desktop and laptop. I absolutely love it. I have been iTunes free for 2 years now. No, it doesn't sync with a phone, but I use an android phone, so I just transfer the files as if it were to a flashdrive or such. I also have to use alternative software to burn CDs. FooBar2000 is open sourced though. I don't take advance of that (I prefer the simple stock vintage theme with the album list and default showing), it certainly opens up lots of doors for those who want to customize their experience.

*I also left iTunes because of how much extra files it was stashing on my computer. When I deleted iTunes I deleted about 10 GB of random, extra files. Part of that is because I'm not to great with computers, cookies, and keeping it clean. The other part was just because iTunes liked to take advantage of my hard drive. Glad to be done with that. FooBar2000 is 58 MB at its simplest.

I used Zune for a while with my Zune, but it never seemed to run well. I haven't loaded it on my latest laptop or desktop.

Bottom line: I'm just glad to be done with iTunes.

[Coreda]

I use FooBar2000. I also have to use alternative software to burn CDs.

Use the audio writer component which adds CD burning. One less program to use.

FooBar2000 is open sourced though.

Actually it's closed source, but freeware.

[THSdrummer]

I use FooBar2000. I also have to use alternative software to burn CDs.

Use the audio writer component which adds CD burning. One less program to use.

FooBar2000 is open sourced though.

Actually it's closed source, but freeware.

Ahh, I did not know that last part. I will have to add that audio writer! Thanks!

[baldgye]

If foobar could be used with my iPhone and had integrated iTunes Store support then I could move, but as it stands it's just not possible... Maybe if Apple continue make iTunes the ****ing worst and foobar can sync and manage music for Android devices maybe I could move... But ATM in too much into music and owning music and iTunes is still just the best and easiest, despite its autistic and possibly illegal behaviour

[davkol]

ITT people surprised that Apple's walled garden is indeed a walled garden.

[baldgye]

ITT people who can't read

[davkol]

Exactly.

[Belfong]

Only wish Itunes would eat flac. Tired of converting it to stupid alac.

I haven't done yesterday update yet. Maybe I shouldn't.

When I started picking up more and more FLAC I left iTunes behind for good*. I use FooBar2000 on my desktop and laptop. I absolutely love it. I have been iTunes free for 2 years now. No, it doesn't sync with a phone, but I use an android phone, so I just transfer the files as if it were to a flashdrive or such. I also have to use alternative software to burn CDs. FooBar2000 is open sourced though. I don't take advance of that (I prefer the simple stock vintage theme with the album list and default showing), it certainly opens up lots of doors for those who want to customize their experience.

*I also left iTunes because of how much extra files it was stashing on my computer. When I deleted iTunes I deleted about 10 GB of random, extra files. Part of that is because I'm not to great with computers, cookies, and keeping it clean. The other part was just because iTunes liked to take advantage of my hard drive. Glad to be done with that. FooBar2000 is 58 MB at its simplest.

I used Zune for a while with my Zune, but it never seemed to run well. I haven't loaded it on my latest laptop or desktop.

Bottom line: I'm just glad to be done with iTunes.

I just want to say that the reason iTunes have 10GB is probably due to the size of your iPad or iPhone backups.

[THSdrummer]

I don't use any Apple devices. The only one I have ever had was about 8 years ago and used a different computer to upload.

[baldgye]

I don't use any Apple devices. The only one I have ever had was about 8 years ago and used a different computer to upload.

Thanks for your input.

[THSdrummer]

I don't use any Apple devices. The only one I have ever had was about 8 years ago and used a different computer to upload.

Thanks for your input.

Perhaps I should've quoted the gentleman above me. It was a response to his comment. 

[baldgye]

Yeah sorry my bad, tired and grouchy I totally missed the post above

[THSdrummer]

Yeah sorry my bad, tired and grouchy I totally missed the post above

Hahaha, you're good. I'm just never sure how much to read into posts on here. I have never figured out if I should quote who I'm responding to if they're right above me. Some forums hate it, others prefer it. So I just kinda flip a coin to figure it out.

[Belfong]

Don't worry, I usually don't quote too if it was a direct response to the post above.

[baldgye]

Well it's only taken the best part of 6 months but finally, finally Apple has fixed playlists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woooooooooo!!!!!!!




Tis the season of miracles

[azhdar]

Speaking of itunes does anyone have experience with moving your itunes library from one computer to another?


1386 artists, 15136 songs

I need to re install my computer since forever but I'm so afraid to lose my ratings, playlists and all the other stuff.

[baldgye]

There is an XML file you'll need to find, that stores everything, though I think ratings and things are emended into the id3 tags of each track... But if you find that file you can move iTunes only when you reinstall it will list all the music as it was, and if your music has moved all those links in iTunes will be broken and need fixing

[Jema]

Although I can agree I don't care for he new iTunes I just downloaded the new 9.1 iOS update and there's so many new emojis!! I'm so happy

[Zaskar]

**** their new music app also

Oh man, their new mucis app update to IOS prettymuch broke car connectivity. Often doesnt display track names anymore, need to open up the phone and manually kill the music app and re open it.

Speaking of itunes does anyone have experience with moving your itunes library from one computer to another?

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1386 artists, 15136 songs

I need to re install my computer since forever but I'm so afraid to lose my ratings, playlists and all the other stuff.

Yeah, its pretty simple as long as you have something big enough to hold/transfer your library.

If you never changed the default location it will be the iTunes folder that's inside your accounts Music folder in windows (Check inside to be sure it contains your music/apps). Back it up and paste it back in that location after installing iTunes on your new machine.

If you want to place it in a different location then hold Shift when you open itunes and it will bring up a  small window that will give you the option of choosing a library file in a new location, just select the .itl file from your itunes library in whatever location you put it.

Mine currently resides on a Synology network drive and itunes seems to handle it great, even with the network storage sleep enabled. iTunes just waits for it to spin up instead of immediately erroring out that it cant find the library.

[swimmingbird]

Itunes sucks but Apple Music's recommendations are really good

[Zaskar]

Itunes sucks but Apple Music's recommendations are really good

Everytime I contemplate ditching it entirely I remember how many songs I've found through recommendations when I was searching a similar song. If it wasnt for that Id probably stopped using it a long time ago.

[Incredigasmic]

iTunes actually drove me to using Android

[kebby]

I hate iTunes because sometimes songs are only available there and I can't buy them. Just because they force you to install a desktop app or own an Apple touchscreen device to download a file.

I also hate it for all those podcast links I can't follow again because I have no desire to install Apple's crappy app. Even if I had I could not because they don't support my platform. Lastly, I don't like the way making a legal purchase from it gives me a file that embeds my name in it for tracking.

[pyrolovesmoney]

Stopped using itunes years ago. My only reason to use it was to hear ipods, which they sucked at delivering. ONce I found stitcher I never again used itunes.

[Belfong]

I am curious as I haven't really checked it in the desktop. Does playing songs in Apple Music increase the Play Count? Back in the old days, I depend on Play Counts to create Smart Playlist, for example Favourites playlist will have songs > 20 play counts in the last 3 months. Now that we have Apple Music, and theoretically is streaming songs and not keeping a local copy, does iTunes track Play Count?

[Zaskar]

Itunes also sometimes for whatever reasond decides to re encode an album and rescan the album art. But they (probably for some dumb copyright reason) keep your purchase tied to the old version that was replaced. You can still download the tracks from purchase history but the "complete this album" option is now greyed out (but oddly enough, the link to view the album in itunes store still brings you to the new one).

I noticed this on a lot of my music that I purchased a few years ago. while the album art is the same the color is slightly different showing a new scan of a printing from a different batch.

[shibataken]

Yea...and all my iphone playlists somehow disappeared or got re-arranged.

[azhdar]

So any user of Itunes have a clue on how to just disable albums rating ? It's fukin up my whole playlist I just want to remove this ****.

[baldgye]

So any user of Itunes have a clue on how to just disable albums rating ? It's fukin up my whole playlist I just want to remove this ****.

what do you mean? why is it affecting a playlist?



~iTunes since the last update has actually been alot better for me and alot more stable... also I've been able to sync stuff!

[azhdar]

Like this for a exemple, this is my "RATE ME" playlist, and some albums got random rating assigned, so it gives me those stupid grey stars, CBA to browse through all my albums to change it down to 0 stars.

(rating on the far right is album rating).

[baldgye]

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Like this for a exemple, this is my "RATE ME" playlist, and some albums got random rating assigned, so it gives me those stupid grey stars, CBA to browse through all my albums to change it down to 0 stars.

(rating on the far right is album rating).

Ahhh ok I think I got it, there is a set of stars that's album rating (if you rated the album 3 stars it auto puts three grey stars for each track). The other set of stars is the rating that song has, I think... if you want to hide the album stars you can right click on the list of categories at the top and untick it?
The grey stars don't really mean anything though so you could just ignore them?

[azhdar]

What bothers me is I never rated albums and the grey stars seem to count just like regular star.
And they fuk up my sorting because if an album gets 2stars, all his tracks gets into my 2stars playlist

This is really not convenient because I still have a lot of sorting to do :

[baldgye]

What bothers me is I never rated albums and the grey stars seem to count just like regular star.
And they fuk up my sorting because if an album gets 2stars, all his tracks gets into my 2stars playlist

This is really not convenient because I still have a lot of sorting to do :

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You have a super strange way of sorting your music out haha so wait, if you add a new album to itunes and rate one track in the album, what happens ?

for me it stars the album like that in grey, is this what your talking about?

[azhdar]

Basicly my system is I had new songs to my itunes they get into the "new playlist" (smart playlist of new songs that haven't been played yet)
I rate the decent one 2-3stars, they get into the "RATE ME" playlist (smart playlist of the 2-3 stars)
(Both of those playlists are 1000 songs more btw)

When they go up to 4-5 stars they get into my regular playlists


And so those random album rating are fukin up my system.



This is what it gives me. If I put the rating down to 0stars it fixes my issue, but I never rated it nor want to browse each album to fix it.

[baldgye]

Basicly my system is I had new songs to my itunes they get into the "new playlist" (smart playlist of new songs that haven't been played yet)
I rate the decent one 2-3stars, they get into the "RATE ME" playlist (smart playlist of the 2-3 stars)
(Both of those playlists are 1000 songs more btw)

When they go up to 4-5 stars they get into my regular playlists


And so those random album rating are fukin up my system.

can't you edit the smart playlists to only count song rating and not album rating? Is this a new issue? I'm pretty sure iTunes has worked like that for years :/ but idk I've never used a system like yours as I tend to only add one or two albums at a time and listen to them solo a few times before rating

[azhdar]

Basicly my system is I had new songs to my itunes they get into the "new playlist" (smart playlist of new songs that haven't been played yet)
I rate the decent one 2-3stars, they get into the "RATE ME" playlist (smart playlist of the 2-3 stars)
(Both of those playlists are 1000 songs more btw)

When they go up to 4-5 stars they get into my regular playlists


And so those random album rating are fukin up my system.

can't you edit the smart playlists to only count song rating and not album rating? Is this a new issue? I'm pretty sure iTunes has worked like that for years :/ but idk I've never used a system like yours as I tend to only add one or two albums at a time and listen to them solo a few times before rating

The smart playlist is on rating, not on album rating.

Too much music, I need an industrial system :x


Latest addition of the summer that I have not finished going through yet.

[baldgye]

Basicly my system is I had new songs to my itunes they get into the "new playlist" (smart playlist of new songs that haven't been played yet)
I rate the decent one 2-3stars, they get into the "RATE ME" playlist (smart playlist of the 2-3 stars)
(Both of those playlists are 1000 songs more btw)

When they go up to 4-5 stars they get into my regular playlists


And so those random album rating are fukin up my system.

can't you edit the smart playlists to only count song rating and not album rating? Is this a new issue? I'm pretty sure iTunes has worked like that for years :/ but idk I've never used a system like yours as I tend to only add one or two albums at a time and listen to them solo a few times before rating

The smart playlist is on rating, not on album rating.

Too much music, I need an industrial system :x

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Latest addition of the summer that I have not finished going through yet.

hmm I used to be like this but life and work got in the way... I'm trying to think of a way you could keep your system... I don't think there is an easy fix... one option could be when you add an album to iTunes you change the album name to '*Let Go' and then when you like it '**Let Go' and then sort by album name and have it start with * or ** or something?

But I'm amazed your iTunes even works properly with that much music in it, I remember when my iTunes library was over 300gb and it was a NIGHTMARE it was so slow...

[whmeltonjr]

Just bumping this to remind everyone how AWFUL iTunes is. When did it become so difficult to add music to your phone? What happened to dragging and dropping stuff over???

[jerue]

Just bumping this to remind everyone how AWFUL iTunes is. When did it become so difficult to add music to your phone? What happened to dragging and dropping stuff over???

It all died with the iPod app on iOS. The decline of a good music player...that said even if we got pre-iOS 7 (or heck, even 8 I think) music back I wouldn't complain one bit; and might even switch back to iPhone!

iTunes has almost always been bad in some manner.

[whmeltonjr]

Just bumping this to remind everyone how AWFUL iTunes is. When did it become so difficult to add music to your phone? What happened to dragging and dropping stuff over???

It all died with the iPod app. The decline of a good music player...that said even if we got pre-iOS 7 (or heck, even 8 I think) music back I wouldn't complain one bit; and might even switch back to iPhone!

I haven't messed with itunes in forever, but now I'm forced to add some music to my phone since I'm going out of town and don't want to burn a ton of data streaming music. Holy crap it is so bad. I should just pay for Spotify and download everything offline instead of messing with this crap.

[jerue]

download everything offline

bingo 

have been doing this forever and the part of me that refuses to change will not be changing any time sooner!

automation is rarely "great", good at best, more likely than not disastrous when done wrong or in a mediocre manner.

[cryptokey]

Plenty of open source alternatives such as Amarok.  Good luck bringing your itunes playlists over though...

[whmeltonjr]

Anybody have any luck syncing everything to iCloud? I can only get about 25% of my library to sync.

[baldgye]

Anybody have any luck syncing everything to iCloud? I can only get about 25% of my library to sync.

never got it to work, all it tells me when i try is that there isn't enough space and then it spams me over and over every single day that i need to buy more space, the only way to stop the spam is to sign out of every icloud service which includes find my iphone. **** me i hate this garbage phone and os

[vivalarevolución]

iTunes evolved to the point that I had difficulty finding the music I had stored on my hard drive.  The main goal of Itunes is to sell stuff, not help you organize your music, that's what they design it for now.

Since I made the switch over to Linux, I've found a number of better organized music players.

[baldgye]

iTunes evolved to the point that I had difficulty finding the music I had stored on my hard drive.  The main goal of Itunes is to sell stuff, not help you organize your music, that's what they design it for now.

Since I made the switch over to Linux, I've found a number of better organized music players.

I'm not a crazy person so I won't be moving from Windows, but I'm going to take a serous look at foobar, I really need new HDD's though and spend a good few days sorting my music collection properly before I do anything too crazy.

That said iTunes Store has gotten a lot worse, it used to be far more tailored to your specific tastes and prior purchases, but they seem to have ditched all of that. Though I don't find it any harder to find my own music than I used too...

[iLLucionist]

I have always wondered how a UX-focused company like Apple can so severely and seriously mess up the UX of iTunes. And after every redesign that supposedly makes it better, it is even worse! And it is sooo sloow.

Though I was tempted by Apple Music, I tried it for like 2 hours and I was like "screw this UI. Back to Spotify."

Wondering whether my Mac would implode if I delete the iTunes binary..

[johnystare]

If you want to listen to music on your Iphone, but all the music is on your PC, then I advise you to use this software - https://softorino.com/waltr/windows-guides/how-upload-music-your-iphone-using-waltr/ - there is nothing complicated, and if you can't figure it out, then there are many articles on how to do it.

[Sintpinty]

All my homies love winamp

[azhdar]

MediaMonkey rules

[fanpeople]

If you want to listen to music on your Iphone, but all the music is on your PC, then I advise you to use this software - https://softorino.com/waltr/windows-guides/how-upload-music-your-iphone-using-waltr/ - there is nothing complicated, and if you can't figure it out, then there are many articles on how to do it.

But what if I want to rectally load my music through my Krause end-bulbs? Will this software help my music cross my blood brain barrier?