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geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: Hyde on Sat, 18 May 2013, 12:52:05
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UPDATE: So elton5354 has decided to pick up this group buy, everyone give me a round of applause !!!
I've also updated the price and minimum order amount, group buy is a lot of work and we wouldn't want the organizer to work ENTIRELY FOR FREE. I hope you guys understands.
Now I've updated MOQ to per color, sigh it was too good to be true.....
Company: Tai-Hao
Type of Mold: ABS Double Shot
Profile: OEM
Available Colors: Black, Blue, Red, Green, and Yellow
MOQ: 500 per color
Price: $8.00 USD per set (104 keys)
Minimum Order: 2 set per person minimum. At this price point I hope 2 set is not a lot to ask and we're trying to push to meet the MOQ also reduce the amount of shipping work for the organizer.
Too good to be true? Well the catch is they can't produce 6.25 spacebar and 1.25 window and menu keys. But they can do blanks for 1.25 window and menu keys, spacebar will be tricky.
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Company Website (http://www.tai-hao.com/)
Examples of their keycaps (http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/taiwan-tai-hao-doubleshots-t5028.html)
More examples (http://keycaprep.com/product/detail.html?product_no=39&cate_no=40&display_group=1)
Original Thread: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42890.0
So we started talking about getting Tai Hao Double Shot but can't seem to find a person to run the group buy for it. Personally I've been too busy with my work otherwise I'd try to run it myself.
Hopefully this will generate enough interesting and someone will step up to run it :)
Their e-mail is on the website but feel free to ask me for the e-mail of the representative that I talked to at Tai-Hao.
Cheers !!!
!!!!! Group Buy Up Order Here !!!!! (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43745.0)
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For that price I take one set of each color :)
Maybe we could get white spacebars from somewhere else? I think white would fit the legends and it wouldn't look too odd.
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1 set for each color
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I could see a red set and a black set for the price, change out the CC&G at work. Honestly, I like the modern typography better than the vintage-look of SP fonts if you're doing a modern looking set.
I understand we'd get 1.25 blanks for the windows/menu keys, but what, if anything would a "104 set" include for a spacebar?
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Interested
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I doubt the GB will be a set of each colour since there's a 500 MOQ for each colour set. If I have to pick a colour, I'd choose yellow...
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for 500 MOQ, I would suggest to just limit to one color for the first run to concentrate the orders. Good pricing though and looks decent. At such a low price, make be make minimum order at 2 sets. Or if you do 2 colors, then people must order 1 set of each color minimum.
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I doubt the GB will be a set of each colour since there's a 500 MOQ for each colour set. If I have to pick a colour, I'd choose yellow...
I think at this price we should at least try to get all colors. I would take 2 of each if it helped to reach MOQ. And at those prices most people will too I guess. All the mixing color options are just to tempting ^^
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The thing is, they're so insanely cheap that it could be worth it just to buy sets nobody wants to meet the MOQ for everyone's benefit.
I spent ~$80 before postage on DSA kits for a single board. I could get over TEN Tai Hao sets for the same money.
Why not "Everyone commits for five sets as the price of admission-- one of each colour-- and then can order additional beyond that. That makes it more likely we'd hit MOQ across the board, and the minimum per person is still less than one SP set.
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The thing is, they're so insanely cheap that it could be worth it just to buy sets nobody wants to meet the MOQ for everyone's benefit.
I spent ~$80 before postage on DSA kits for a single board. I could get over TEN Tai Hao sets for the same money.
Why not "Everyone commits for five sets as the price of admission-- one of each colour-- and then can order additional beyond that. That makes it more likely we'd hit MOQ across the board, and the minimum per person is still less than one SP set.
Yeah, I think a 5 set minimum makes sense at those prices. I mean people pay ~30$ to just to get RGB doubleshots. Why not get 5 almost complete sets for that money?!
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Go for green!
If the MOQ isnt reached, i suggest people buying 2 sets each, its still super cheap
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Yeah, I'm in for whatever. Did you make extra sure all 500 have to be the same color? If not, we could easily sell 100 sets of 5 colors for $32.50. If so, then it might be hard to find 500 different people that want a set, regardless of how cheap. If I were a vendor though, I'd buy up a lot at these prices and resell. So perhaps some vendors will help.
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why are they that unbelievable cheap? Too bad I only need ISO-DE...
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I would be in for a set of blues and a set of reds!! Good find!
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why are they that unbelievable cheap? Too bad I only need ISO-DE...
Well, at these prices it would be worth it if you just use the F-Keys to get some color on your board :D
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I'm in. One of every color.
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Ill take some!
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I'm in for whatever to reach MOQ
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I'm in for greens I demand cheapest ****iest shipping possible
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Yes!
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I'd grab 5 of any colour to help MOQ.
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In for 2 sets of the Green.
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I'd totally buy a set of Blacks and Greens, atleast!
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I am in for 1 of each as well. Roughly $40 for 5 sets of keys (minus the spacebars) is too tempting to pass up, even if only to play with color combos.
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Dat price.... Would definitely be down for a yellow set.
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Okay elton5354 has decided to pick up this group buy, yayyyyyyyy !!!!!!
We're going to contact the rep again to double check if the MOQ is per colour or per order. But to me it sounds like per order makes more sense.
Be patient guys it's progressing :)
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Nice one Elton!!
(http://www.maniacworld.com/internet-bro-fist.jpg)
I hope shipping from Greenland to Germany is cheaper than from the US ;)
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Will the group buy thread be also posted here for easy reference? I'm definitely in for a black and blue set!
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I'm looking into boxes and shipping. How many sets can 6" x 4" x 3" box fit?
For 1 kg,
International - $20
USA - $18
Canada - $11-$16
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Interested!
Yellow represent!
One of each just in case.
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I'm looking into boxes and shipping. How many sets can 6" x 4" x 3" box fit?
For 1 kg,
International - $20
USA - $18
Canada - $11-$16
You may want to look into a US proxy... costs for priority or first class mail via stamps.com would be half that US price most likely.
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I'm in for a red, blue, green and yellow.
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That benefits you guys only.
Huh? I'm just saying, if someone else is willing to ship the US orders, you proxy *just the US orders* to someone in the US who can mail them cheaper.
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Oh okay, if someone is willing to do that then good! :D
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Interested :D
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Do you live at Greenland, elton? COOL!
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Very interested especially the price tag :o .
I want all the colours that they are currently providing. Simply because I'm an all over COLOUR addict ;) .
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Lets see how many are interested and what the popular colours are.
Fill the interest form here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1P8Lnz6UgaPv9zZlb7cYiBtz-oJ0_yNGNVvs2rWiHXhE/viewform
FORM (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1P8Lnz6UgaPv9zZlb7cYiBtz-oJ0_yNGNVvs2rWiHXhE/viewform)
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I second having a US proxy. Would be sad to pay $7 for keys and $20 for shipping from the opposite side of the globe.
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1 set of each color. form filled.
Can we have rubber gamers doubleshots? or just buy no custom colors, ship together, save some shipping cost, I wanna try long time. IF .. :rolleyes: anyone interested
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1 set of each color. form filled.
Can we have rubber gamers doubleshots? or just buy no custom colors, ship together, save some shipping cost, I wanna try long time. IF .. :rolleyes: anyone interested
I'll ask about the gamer set. 104 set or just WASD?
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Given the prices I'm in for one set of each color.
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With the amount of orders going down, I think having a proxy in every continent makes more sense; im sure I could ship around the UK (and possibly Europe) for cheaper than that.
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Def. interested in at least two sets
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Actually, looking at the price again, and knowing that I will have to pay for shipping anyway, it would not make sense to pick up only one set. Down for two at least if there is more than one color available. I am thinking a Jamaica themed board :)
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With the amount of orders going down, I think having a proxy in every continent makes more sense; im sure I could ship around the UK (and possibly Europe) for cheaper than that.
That would be really great!!
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Doesn't that company make PBT doubleshot? That would get insta IC'ed :D
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In for something between 3 and 5 sets :)
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Would absolutely throw down cash for a couple of sets at that price.
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Updated interest check form on front page !!! Everyone go fill it out :D
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wow insane price in for 50 sets of ea!
if you guys need a US proxy I don't mind volunteering
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Filled up the interest form for 3 sets!
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The shipping quote earlier was just an estimate, but of course, if you only get 1 set, the shipping cost would probably be half of that and I will use a smaller box. Otherwise, I don't think you can get any cheaper shipping internationally if you get multiple sets as you'd need a larger box.
If you guys want to proxy, that'll be easier for me, so no complaints here. ;)
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wow insane price in for 50 sets of ea!
if you guys need a US proxy I don't mind volunteering
uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh are you sure? Your total would be $1625, and what if they're low quality?
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wow insane price in for 50 sets of ea!
if you guys need a US proxy I don't mind volunteering
uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh are you sure? Your total would be $1625, and what if they're low quality?
That's considered cheap for 250 sets of 104 key caps! :P
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wow insane price in for 50 sets of ea!
if you guys need a US proxy I don't mind volunteering
uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh are you sure? Your total would be $1625, and what if they're low quality?
No worries I'm aware the quality is probably not high but this is a nice alternative for those who can't afford $80+ keycap sets
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Well Elton and nokcha are officially insane.
(Unless he plans on making a keycap pool, of course)
Not trying to be rude here Elton, but have you done a groupbuy before? I just have a had time trusting people after I got scammed on kickstarter. I'll probably just get less if you haven't.
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Not trying to be rude here Elton, but have you done a groupbuy before? I just have a had time trusting people after I got scammed on kickstarter. I'll probably just get less if you haven't.
No, but I've sold many things here in the classifieds as well as I've met other members here IRL.
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Not trying to be rude here Elton, but have you done a groupbuy before? I just have a had time trusting people after I got scammed on kickstarter. I'll probably just get less if you haven't.
No, but I've sold many things here in the classifieds as well as I've met other members here IRL.
YAY! All my trust are belong to you, two sets of yellow red and green here I come :)
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Well Elton and nokcha are officially insane.
(Unless he plans on making a keycap pool, of course)
Not trying to be rude here Elton, but have you done a groupbuy before? I just have a had time trusting people after I got scammed on kickstarter. I'll probably just get less if you haven't.
I've met Elton in real life, he showed up to our Matias tour earlier this year and he's a nice dude. As for nokcha he's getting it for keypop.net so I'm prettttyyyyyyyyyy sure he's not insane, he's doing smart business ;P
Though if he's really getting 250 sets then he will cover half of our MOQ sweeeetttt lol !!!!
Oh I also wonder for the rest of us, should we enforce a 2 or 5 sets minimum to help meeting the MOQ also to keep packaging work down.
EDIT:
I've updated the price (tiny bump up) and minimum order amount. Sorry guys I guess the original price listed is if the group buy organizer work entirely for free. But we all know arranging group buy takes a lot of effort and time (collecting money, sending order, receiving, packing...... etc). So it would be nice to give a little bit of incentive for his time and effort. I hope you guys can understand.
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Note that Hyde will also be getting free sets because of the tiny price increase and his hard work!
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LOL I don't work that hard....... *runs*
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I'm almost sure that ISO is not an option. Would it be possible getting a short left Shift (1.25) or at least a blank 1.25 keycap to fill that gap? Just asking.
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I'm not sure, but they do have 1.25x blanks. I can ask if we can order some of the blanks by itself.
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Just filled in for 1 set of each colour except black; 4 sets. Within a couple months we should have MOQ on at least 2 colours; anything enough to get them producing and possibly consider making spacebars once they see the demand.
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I'll be ordering extras in case people's keys gets damaged during shipping.
Currently the quantities of each colours are
Yellow 69
Blue 76
Black 20
Red 78
Green 71
With 28 orders
Just to be clear, the menu and window keys are going to be blank.
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Actually come to think about it, I forgot to ask them if it's possible to do lasered or pad printed menu and window keys, so at least it will look similar to the rest double shot keys.
Can you ask them about that on the next email? :P
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Ok, will do! Also I'm going to ask if they can include either 5x or 7x space bar with each set. You can pick either one for your set. If that works out.
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Any news on a 6.25 spacebar? Do they just not have the mold?
Maybe we can have a GB with SP to get spacebars made.
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104 keys would normally include a space bar, but they do not do space bars (or is it just 6.25 space bars they do not do?).
Is a space bar included at all?
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I would assume so as well. They don't have 6.25 mold for the space bar.
I'm waiting for their response atm.
WASD's space bars are OEM for better fit.
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Can you ask them also about their Alps keycaps?
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Can you ask them also about their Alps keycaps?
They do alps? :O
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http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/taiwan-tai-hao-doubleshots-t5028.html#p96184 (http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/taiwan-tai-hao-doubleshots-t5028.html#p96184)
"they can do Alps plus custom fonts/colours etc but didn't actually give me the MOQ :)"
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I'll be ordering extras in case people's keys gets damaged during shipping.
Currently the quantities of each colours are
Yellow 69
Blue 76
Black 20
Red 78
Green 71
With 28 orders
Just to be clear, the menu and window keys are going to be blank.
That's interesting how evenly split all the colors are. Black is unsurprisingly the lowest, as it usually comes stock with most keyboards.
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1 set of each color. form filled.
Can we have rubber gamers doubleshots? or just buy no custom colors, ship together, save some shipping cost, I wanna try long time. IF .. :rolleyes: anyone interested
I'll ask about the gamer set. 104 set or just WASD?
I thought they're only available in "WADS and arrow" keys? I don't mind if there is 104 rubber set :D Thank you elton.
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I have some bad news. The 500 MOQ is only for a single color. That's the only bad news. The rest are good :)
I'm on my phone right now, so I'll post a more detail response when I get home.
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Yeah, figured as much, but worth asking. We'll have to have a pretty good minimum set order I'd guess then. Because other than vendors, I can't see a mass agreement for everyone to buy a few sets on their own, and 500 is a big number.
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Okay.
For anyone who wants their menu keys and windows keys pad printed it will cost an extra $.20 per key. No extras for blanks.
- they also offer this Serigraphic plate printing. Not sure what that is. Can anyone chime in on this? That would be an extra $120
They offer 1.5x blank mods as well, but awaiting for the price.
They only offer 5x and 7x space bars, and would require 500 MOQ for each, so each set would require one of the two offered.
There was a question regarding the modifiers not being coloured, but it was confirmed that they will coloured and will be double injected.
They also mentioned that they might arrange door to door express service - not sure what that means either, but awaiting confirmation.
As for the questions regarding the Alps and gamer sets, I'm waiting for that as well..
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At least that goes some way towards explaining the low price ... at such high quantities.
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Currently the numbers are
Y - 89
R - 105
Black - 40
G - 92
B - 97
We can choose the 2 highest number of coloured sets and stick to it? Open to suggestions
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Man that sux..... :(
I guess now we need to decide if we should just go with 1 colour first? Though I had a feeling most people are interested because there were so many colours >_____>
But good to know they offer pad printing for the window and menu keys though.
Hopefully we'll hear more response from them soon.
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Yeah, I was interested mainly because I would be able to get so many different colors for ~30bucks + shipping.
The numbers listed are from the interest form correct?
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Yeah, and the semi-even split is a really bad sign too. Reminds me of the GMK thing a bit.
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Yes, that's the number atm. Remember, the order form was only up for 24 hours exactly. Let it go on for a bit and hopefully there would be more orders
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This will probably come down to a poll for which colour to get, with a bunch of people backing out because
yellow their favourite colour is not selected.
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This will probably come down to a poll for which colour to get, with a bunch of people backing out because yellow their favourite colour is not selected.
Yes, that's the number atm. Remember, the order form was only up for 24 hours exactly. Let it go on for a bit and hopefully there would be more orders
oh yes, that was our colour wasn't it? ;P
Yeah, and the semi-even split is a really bad sign too. Reminds me of the GMK thing a bit.
Yeah, I was interested mainly because I would be able to get so many different colors for ~30bucks + shipping.
The numbers listed are from the interest form correct?
Yeah..most people ordered because of that reason as well..
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I can't remember whether I submitted the IC form or not - can anyone check please?
Also, is there any news on what, if any, space bar is included?
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You did not..
It is included, but requires 500 MOQ - we have to choose one, 7x or 5x and stick with it.
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Thanks for that.
Submitted now :)
A 5x space bar would look a little silly on a 6.25x keyboard. I wonder if a 7x space bar could be chopped and glued to fit 6.25x?
Or just go with white space bars (from elsewhere) as someone suggested.
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WASDkeyboards sells them for 1.50$ OEM profile
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/spacebar-cherry-mx-keycap.html
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Interested and submitted! Would also be interested in Alps one as well :)
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I will gladly take some as my first key sets!
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WASDkeyboards sells them for 1.50$ OEM profile
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/spacebar-cherry-mx-keycap.html
Not sure how close the colour would be though. Still at least a pale yellow space bar would be closer to yellow than a white one ;)
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Do these fit with QFRs?
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Do these fit with QFRs?
They should, except for the space bar.
QFR has a standard layout (assuming you mean ANSI, and not ISO).
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Keen for a red, blue, and black set.
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The quotes for alps and gamer set. Very high MOQ. I think she misunderstood me when I asked for Alps key set. This Alps set is a gamer set I believe.
Octopus --8 Double Shot rubber keys + 1 key puller WASD & Arrow keys Cherry or ALPS
*USD2.00 / ex factory / with blister package
*USD1.00 / ex factory / with plastic bag package
**MOQ for Cherry keys: 500sets (Color options: Red)
** MOQ for Cherry keys: 1000sets (Color options: Orange / Red / Green)
**MOQ for ALPS keys: 1000sets (Color options: Orange / Red / Green)
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I'm definitely in for red and yellow sets of alps :)
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What's the yellow MOQ?
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500 i think .
Same for every color ,if i am not wrong.
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I'm thinking of creating a group buy thread now, offering 4 colours and dropping black. It's been only a day and we've already received 47 orders with around 100 each.
Most orders, people have at least one set of each colour, so I'll be setting an order of at least 1 set per colour rather than 2 min..
I'll have the group buy run for a month and see how it goes. This way people have more choices and incentive to order instead of limiting one choice and limit the audience.
What do you guys think?
Yellow Red Black Green Blue
95 113 46 99 104
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I'm thinking of creating a group buy thread now, offering 4 colours and dropping black. It's been only a day and we've already received 47 orders with around 100 each.
Most orders, people have at least one set of each colour, so I'll be setting an order of at least 1 set per colour rather than 2 min..
I'll have the group buy run for a month and see how it goes. This way people have more choices and incentive to order instead of limiting one choice and limit the audience.
What do you guys think?
Yellow Red Black Green Blue
95 113 46 99 104
Yeah, that is probably the best choice. Drop black because it is very common and have a minimum order of 1 each. At these prices this is fair I think.
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C'mon guise, show a little bit more love for yellow :p :p :p :D
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damn i wanted black and blue and do a 2 color set.....
sad
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The quotes for alps and gamer set. Very high MOQ. I think she misunderstood me when I asked for Alps key set. This Alps set is a gamer set I believe.
Octopus --8 Double Shot rubber keys + 1 key puller WASD & Arrow keys Cherry or ALPS
*USD2.00 / ex factory / with blister package
*USD1.00 / ex factory / with plastic bag package
**MOQ for Cherry keys: 500sets (Color options: Red)
** MOQ for Cherry keys: 1000sets (Color options: Orange / Red / Green)
**MOQ for ALPS keys: 1000sets (Color options: Orange / Red / Green)
Thanks alot elton. MOQ is too high. I'll buy it somewhere else. This GB is gonna be complicated. I don't want to waste too much of your time. ;)
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Elton since you are letting the GB run for 1 month don't drop the black, it might just make the MOQ you never know. I haven't seen any google sheet maeby ive missed it...
Just did the sheet, 1 of each set, would be shame to drop black... not at this price. That's $40 for 5 sets DS keycaps and they are quite thick!!!!
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I'm in for a couple. Would like to see black stay but its your show.
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One of each as a requirement would be :(. I only own 1 keyboard still.
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In case you want a Chinese translator when contacting the seller, here I am to serve!
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So do you guys want blank windows keys and menu keys or pad printed for an extra .20 each key?
They are competent in English enough, so thanks anyways.
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Pad printed sounds fine--those keys won't get too much use, relatively-speaking.
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Blank or pad - I use a Mac mostly, so printing Windows keys is kinda meh.
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No pad printed please, if its done wrong it'll rub off in a day even if theres not much use. And as the keyboard gods ascended from the heavens they said "LET THEM BE BLANKS! LISTEN TO RULE FOR HE SPEAKS TRUTH, YAY." [Hopefully that was enough to get your attention :) ]
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I made the group buy thread already. Awaiting approval..
You guys will have to resubmit on the new form...sorry
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43745.new#new
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Do they also sell those "rubber gaming keys"? Looks amazing :S
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I made the group buy thread already. Awaiting approval..
You guys will have to resubmit on the new form...sorry
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43745.new#new
Not404Anymore
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approved
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Do they also sell those "rubber gaming keys"? Looks amazing :S
Yeah, but they need a very high MOQ. 500 or 1000 depending on colour..
approved
thanks
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C'mon people - start ordering yellow!1!11!!!one!!
;)
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don't we have black on white? so it is easy to make a CCnG or red alart
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Some news for you guys
Since one mold is including many keys (1x1, 1x1.25, 1x1.5
), it will waste other keys if you only need a 1x1.5 key..
The MOQ is at least 500pcs Color has to be the same as your other 500sets 104keys order.
Price for each 1x1.5 key is USD0.30 (I am sorry its very expensive because it waste a let of other keys)
The MOQ for ALPS key (104keys) is 500 sets. Price & Color options is the same as Cherry type.
For the Octopus 8 rubber key, you may visit the following web site to buy it if can not meet our MOQ.. Thanks..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=geeego&x=-719&y=-112
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Group buy up, updated first page to link directly to the group buy page :)
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I don't really understand what's wrong with the space bar, can someone inform me?
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I don't really understand what's wrong with the space bar, can someone inform me?
A typical keyboard such as Coolermaster's Quick Fire Rapid, Filco Majestouch, etc uses a 6.25x size space bar. This set doesn't include that. It includes a size 7x space bar that doesn't fit a typical keyboard. The reason being is the supplier, Tai Hao doesn't have the mold to make it.
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Do you think I can pay and pick up locally?
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Do you think I can pay and pick up locally?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43745.0
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Do you think I can pay and pick up locally?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43745.0
I can read thanks. That only answered half my question.
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Do you think I can pay and pick up locally?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43745.0
I can read thanks. That only answered half my question.
You have to pay by PayPal because I need the funds from everyone before I place the order to the supplier. Do you not have Paypal?