104 US ANSI Double shot replacements for Filco Order

[quadibloc]

Not having a FILCO keyboard, I didn't look at this thread... but I am surprised at the good taste shown here! A light gray for the printable character keys - and the letters of the alphabet are in a large size, and centered!

I thought my keyboard color scheme tastes were weird and not shared by many here, but apparently I was wrong, at least in part.

[Kaishi]

I'm so excited!  It's also  really cool that the total turn-around time on this project has been less than a month and a half.

[keyboardlover]

WhiteRice - do the doubleshot keys make your Filco sound any different when you type on it?

[WhiteRice]

I haven't noticed an audible difference. However when I first put them on it felt like the key throw was shorter. After a day or two it doesn't feel any different.

I find myself running my fingers across the keys because I enjoy the texture.

Maybe it's because they're new but in the right light the key seem to sparkle a bit, almost like gun metal.

I look forward to ripster posting photos. His photos always look professional.

[keyboardlover]

Thanks...anyone know if these keycaps would fit on a Deck?

[nanu]

I went to http://www.deckkeyboards.com/ and saw the bottom row looking different from a Filco's, so I assume "No."

[laden3]

Maybe it's because they're new but in the right light the key seem to sparkle a bit, almost like gun metal.

r they PBT?

[WhiteRice]

r they pbt?

abs

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

r they PBT?

I doubt it. It was said much earlier these Signature Plastic keycaps are abs :X

[Fwiffo]

Their web site says they can make PBT or ABS, though I don't know if there are cost differences or anything. What are the relative merits of one over the other?

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

put abs into a pot of hot water. It will melt faster than PBT.

abs turns yellow faster than pbt. Abs shines faster than pbt (not sure if pbt will shine, but it won't as fast as abs anyway). Pbt should be kept out of the sun.

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

PBT and PET need UV protection if used outdoors, and most grades of these polyesters are flammable, although additives can be used to improve both UV and flammability properties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polybutylene_terephthalate



Assploding keycaps

[laden3]

Assploding keycaps

Only if they use pure PBT. Isn't there a bony guy who monkeys around with plastics all the time in the forum?

[WhiteRice]

Did Signature confirm that?

All of our 2-shot keys are made from ABS material (our tooling is only set up for ABS). Sublimation is done on PBT keys and cannot be done on the front of the keycap.

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[Moogle Stiltzkin]

So pbt + smokers dont mix :X add that to the wiki.

[WhiteRice]

I was just checking tracking numbers. Everything has gone to be processed, and one set has already been delivered.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

I was just checking tracking numbers. Everything has gone to be processed, and one set has already been delivered.

Must have been very local. I'm only a state over and it hasn't moved a peep since Friday.

[mrbill]

I was just checking tracking numbers. Everything has gone to be processed, and one set has already been delivered.

Should we have gotten an email or something with our tracking numbers?  I've not seen anything at all.

[jaynoon]

Must have been very local. I'm only a state over and it hasn't moved a peep since Friday.

USPS tracking is pretty terrible. I've often seen it not move for days, only to find it delivered at my house.

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

Or maybe they don't work on weekend :/

Mucha wat is the url your using ? I don't see that google map thingy :/

[zefrer]

Or maybe they don't work on weekend :/

Mucha wat is the url your using ? I don't see that google map thingy :/

It's package tracker. Nice site. You can forward tracking emails to them and they show up in your account page.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

It's package tracker. Nice site. You can forward tracking emails to them and they show up in your account page.

And they'll email you when it starts moving (if it's just "information received"), when it's out for delivery, when it's delivered, and when there's an exception.

And text message (or SMS if you're pedantic), and Twitter. All you have to do is register an account.

Example email:

[wap32]

It's package tracker. Nice site. You can forward tracking emails to them and they show up in your account page.

Is it supposed to work for international packages as well?
With my tracking # it just says the info is unavailable, even though I can see it fine on the USPS site.

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

I tried it on auto detect and just us postal but it can't find it.

But oddly when i use it at this other link it works. What gives ?

http://trkcnfrm1.smi.usps.com/PTSInternetWeb/InterLabelInquiry.do

[muchadoaboutnothing]

If you're both internatiaonal that may be the cause of it not working. If you switch from Auto-Detect to US Postal Service (4th option on drop down), does it work?

In either case I'd email the PackageTrackr guys. They're pretty responsive to emails.

International Priority Mail #s may be in a slightly or completely different format, which I suspect may be the cause.

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

Nope not working :{

Anyway i will try email them. Thx.

[squarebox]

It's moving!!!

[WhiteRice]

SigPla vs. Cherry vs. Ducky

Profile:


Thickness:


Legend:


I did this to demonstrate something I was thinking about.

I believe that Signature Plastics(SigPla) originally did all their tooling for cherry keyboards. As you know Cherry is a large provider of POS keyboards, and most often you see special key caps on registers.

Ripster, the profile of these caps should feel similar to the ones on your anti-otaku filco. I'm sure you will let us know when you get them.

[MissileMike]

I am thinking these may actually show up today.  Mine passed through a sort facility 30 minutes from here yesterday.

[Kaishi]

I didn't get a tracking number. I really want to see when my set will arrive.  Do you have a record of it, WhiteRice?

[muchadoaboutnothing]

I didn't get a tracking number. I really want to see when my set will arrive.  Do you have a record of it, WhiteRice?

Did you check your PayPal email? Did you check your spam on said email?

It would have come from:
USPS_Shipping_Services@usps.com

with the subject:
Click-N-Ship(R) Notification

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Took me longer than expected. Those little white stabilizer nubs kept trolling me.

Overall, very impressed, like the key texture. The MX blues clicking was slightly more dampened on the Rosewill keys vs. the signature keys; my guess is because they seem to be ever so slightly thinner. Very happy!

[woody]

Your left ALT/OS buttons are swapped ... intentionally?

[HaaTa]

I normally swap my Function keys.

Usual:
Ctrl | OS | Alt

Mine:
Alt | AltGr | OS with CapsLock = Ctrl

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Your left ALT/OS buttons are swapped ... intentionally?

Nope, that's what we call a mistake. :wacko:

[ironman31]

Mine is out for delivery. Ill post some pictures when I get home.

[Kaishi]

Yeah, I got another notification at about the same time, assumed it was for something else.  My mistake

Ooo! it looks like my keyset is arriving either today or tomorrow.  In either case, YAY!

[woody]

Heresy!

Show Image

Actually I kinda like the Apple Aluminum and it's layout.

Fn in lower left corner, then CTRL - now THAT'S heresy.

[woody]

Nope, that's what we call a mistake. :wacko:

Cheers, dude. You're my GH hero for not having rainbow colours on the keyboard and keeping it plain.
Cheers to WhiteRice for organizing this and picking sane choices.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Lenovo does the same thing. Annoying, but hardly the end of the world. And at one point (not sure if there still is) you could swap the CTRL and FN positions in the BIOS.

[judicata]

Yay! Got them in and have them in.  They look and feel great!  Though I wish I would've realized that the stabilizers are not symmetrical a little sooner...

Does anyone have a spare "Control" key for the "Capslock" position?  I need an extra.  I'd pay for shipping plus a few bucks extra for your trouble.

[keyboardlover]

Nice! Post a photo!

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Though I wish I would've realized that the stabilizers are not symmetrical a little sooner...

THIS IS WHAT TORTURED ME. It took me so long to figure this out.

Note the original orientation of the stabilizers on whatever keycaps you swap out and you'll be fine.

[woody]

Lenovo does the same thing. Annoying, but hardly the end of the world. And at one point (not sure if there still is) you could swap the CTRL and FN positions in the BIOS.

I simply refuse to buy keyboards with Fn | CTRL layout. That has ruled out lots of keyboards and laptops so far.

That being said, I'd better offer my used and thoroughly cleaned blasphemous ML4400 cheap to somebody who wants to get into mechanical, or is just collecting.

[woody]

... but about that "Arial" thing......

The 'R' is bit odd, don't you think?

[Lanx]

here's some modified keys.
*note*
i have to keep some of my older cherry caps cuz i customized them to fit my board since i have a slope up towards the middle(meaning the keys you see that aren't changed are meeting at a slope)


I got one with the nostromo as well, i decided to use the cursor only for the different texture so i can "feel" my home row, it's nice. (keeping the 5 in there cuz it has the bump)


overall i like it, of course my keyboard is a special case and i'm preparing my V2 to account for this as well heh.

[Phaedrus2129]

Lenovo does the same thing. Annoying, but hardly the end of the world. And at one point (not sure if there still is) you could swap the CTRL and FN positions in the BIOS.

My X100e does that.

[keyboardlover]

Don't  forget to "lube up" when replacing the keys.

Is that necessary even with a new keyboard?

[Lanx]

cherry stabilizers don't need lubing they feel "snappy"

[keyboardlover]

Well I received confirmation that mine arrived today...can't wait to see them! Still haven't decided on selling them or buying a new keyboard for them yet though...