Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 14 November 2013, 14:48:05
Current status: SHIPPING!
BLANK - $55
(http://i.imgur.com/ztazPFN.jpg)
CHERRY BLACK on BLACK dyesub- $75
(http://i.imgur.com/XJQkoFf.jpg)
Cherry black on black RU dyesub - $75
(http://i.imgur.com/jeRu2Mx.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE - $75
(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
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GMK ABS adapter packs (also available on their own) -
(http://i.imgur.com/inxUrCI.png)
contains 6 1x1 row E windowed, 1 row C stepped windowed caps lock, 1 row C full touch windowed caps lock, 2 row C deepdish home keys, 1 ISO enter, 1 row B 2.25 shift, 1 row B 1.75 shift, 1 row B 1.25 windowed, 3 row B 1x1, 4 row B 1.5, 1 7x spacebar.
(http://i.imgur.com/wVzFGae.png)
contains 2 row E 1.5, 2 row D 1x1.5, 2 row C 1.5, 2 row C 1x1.5, 2 row B 1.5, 8 row B 1x1, 2 row A 1x1, 4 row A 1x2.
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For those interested in resell, if you order 20+ PBT set I will do set up for any other layout in any font you wish. In addition for 20+ set volume order the groupbuy fee is waived and you will get free uninsured shipping. GMK add-on sets are NOT eligible for a volume discount.
Total 300 PBT sets ordered to go to production. Stepped caps lock is also included in each set as the 105th key.
GMK add ons each have a minimum of 400 to go to production.
Buyer will be responsible for payment of goods, shipping costs, for all paypal fees, and an additional $3 groupbuy fee. You will be billed and all orders collected via paypal in USD. All orders will be sent via USPS. Shipping fees will vary based on what is ordered and it's destination. I will not be liable for uninsured/nontrackable orders damaged or lost during shipping. International orders with insurance/tracking sent via EMS advised for any large orders.
By placing an order you agree to these terms.
Order count (01.3.14):
PBT full sets: 291/300
GMK standard: 33/400
GMK EDOX: 7/250
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 14:58:15
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:00:17
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:02:32
I've been wanting the black dye sub for a while.
I thought I wouldn't see another GB for this for at least another 6 months.
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:02:48
AKA 'invisible'
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:03:48
Post by: Keytrun on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:05:14
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:06:53
Can you explain why cherry and not oem?
1. Cherry
2. Cherry
3. Cherry
4. Cherry
5. Cherry
6...
Post by: Keytrun on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:07:55
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:09:21
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:10:15
(http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/87UB_led1000_th0x0.jpg)
Indeed it is not a high visibility.
Order won't go to production without the MOQ of 400 total sets ordered. I have not made an order with the factory yet, only made sure it is possible.
Why not OEM? Because Cherry is BETTER!
Post by: Satō on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:11:02
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:12:31
? I don't get it.
The only profile/cap really worth getting is Cherry profile. Cherry caps, be they ABS or PBT are nice and thick and have a nice profile to use. OEM caps are thin and crappy and have a less pleasant profile. The point was that Cherry>all.
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:13:48
Words to live by.
I always think OEM profile is a waste. Its almost cherry profile but taller. What's the point?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:14:53
I will see if it's possible to add 4 additional top row 1x key to each set, and if so what that does to the prices.
Post by: esoomenona on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:17:21
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:18:25
I will see if it's possible to add 4 additional top row 1x key to each set, and if so what that does to the prices.
I'm not opposed to this, but if four people split a blank set, it would only be ~$14 and they'd each get their 4 needed blanks.
CAN WE PLEASE GET 1.5x MODS AND 7x SPACEBAR!? D:
C'mon, you know this is impossible :)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:19:22
If you guys want to pony up $25K to make molds I can see about them.
Post by: j0hnny on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:28:28
and just average/estimate, how much will domestic shipping be (I live in Seattle, WA)
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:28:53
I don't see any information other than they visual image of the keyboard layout. Sorry for the newb question, but will these fit my Poker ii?
Yes :)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:31:45
Yes these are again with imsto.
I will see if it's possible to add 4 additional top row 1x key to each set, and if so what that does to the prices.
Hopefully it can be done for minimal costs :thumb:
Post by: whiteduck on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:39:40
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:40:03
Post by: IPT on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:43:52
Black on Black should come out looking similar to how it was with the Realforce:Show Image(http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/87UB_led1000_th0x0.jpg)
Indeed it is not a high visibility.
Order won't go to production without the MOQ of 400 total sets ordered. I have not made an order with the factory yet, only made sure it is possible.
Why not OEM? Because Cherry is BETTER!
just another reference pic for ya Ivan, Vortex's Black/Black PBT Dyesub
I assume IMSTO's will be similar in visability
Finally i can replace the italic font
(http://i.imgur.com/mQB6UVC.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/5hnsa3Z.jpg
Post by: j0hnny on Thu, 14 November 2013, 15:45:00
Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:43:04
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:45:20
Post by: kenmai9 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:46:47
I am not here to pick any fights. Originative will come out with nearly the same style keycaps in 2 weeks. The idea is the same, black on black like the Realforce. I am not saying you copied ours, but please know that we are not copying yours. Get ready for Black Friday. :)Would it be ready to ship in two weeks?
Post by: ssdt on Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:50:16
Thank you very much for doing this!!!
If you should not be able to read the umlauts on my address, please let me know :)
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:53:45
Can't decide if I want black on black or blank :confused:
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 14 November 2013, 17:09:49
imsto is a member here who assist to organize the manufacture with the Chinese factory. Since they were first to offer these particular Cherry profile PBT keycap it is what most people refer to them by. This buy have nothing to do with GMK.
Accented Latin character is fine. If that is the correct for your address it's not a problem. Just need to stick to Latin character and not use other like Cyrillic, Hangul, Chinese, etc. as the postage labels don't like it. You can put address in other character set in addition to Latin if you wish for secondary address label to aid local delivery.
Post by: alon93 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 17:10:27
Any chance of having 4 more top row blanks?
+1 would love 4 extra blank keys for my ducky
Post by: Psybin on Thu, 14 November 2013, 17:11:45
I ordered one blank and one printed.
Might do another printed before Jan 15..
Post by: eyesmiles on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:04:31
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:11:54
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:12:35
When you say these are IMSTO what does that mean? I thought these were GMK.. Does IMSTO do the dyesubbing? While gmk makes the keys?
These are PBT.
Post by: Loligagger on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:20:57
If anyone isn't planning on using their fulltouch caps lock I'll take it (to use it as a 1.75x right shift).
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:34:20
Post by: whiteduck on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:43:46
Heh at least they can't get the caps lock colour wrong ;)
bazinga!
Post by: Sai on Thu, 14 November 2013, 19:43:54
Heh at least they can't get the caps lock colour wrong ;)
i am worried about this too. :))
Post by: tbc on Thu, 14 November 2013, 22:15:35
Heh at least they can't get the caps lock colour wrong ;)
you just ruined everything... free clickclacks must make you an ahole :P
Post by: Keytrun on Thu, 14 November 2013, 22:22:11
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 22:28:13
I am not here to pick any fights. Originative will come out with nearly the same style keycaps in 2 weeks. The idea is the same, black on black like the Realforce. I am not saying you copied ours, but please know that we are not copying yours. Get ready for Black Friday. :)
I might get both.
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 14 November 2013, 22:30:10
I'm curious how this works. Once you get 400 orders they go to production? Once in production how long do they take to make? 400 orders seems like a lot - is it likely that many people will order these?
Yes and they'll probably ship 1-3 months after production starts.
400 orders is very very likely to happen imo, because A LOT of people have been waiting for something like this for a very very very very very long time. I've personally been waiting for this to be produced for year and there are others who have been waiting even longer.
Post by: elton5354 on Thu, 14 November 2013, 22:39:09
I'll be in for the BonB DS.
Post by: tbc on Thu, 14 November 2013, 22:41:01
Post by: Furobins on Thu, 14 November 2013, 23:59:08
Post by: Keytrun on Fri, 15 November 2013, 00:06:25
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 15 November 2013, 00:17:50
Post by: danielucf on Fri, 15 November 2013, 00:35:39
Post by: tbc on Fri, 15 November 2013, 00:45:02
how exactly do they differ from imsto?
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 15 November 2013, 02:20:10
I am not here to pick any fights. Originative will come out with nearly the same style keycaps in 2 weeks. The idea is the same, black on black like the Realforce. I am not saying you copied ours, but please know that we are not copying yours. Get ready for Black Friday. :)
Thanks for being transparent about this! I assume your set will be a little more expensive than the set Ivan is offering?
This basically means interest will be split between people who want it fast and people who want it as cheap as possible. This might make it even harder for this GB to reach a MOQ of 400. Of course this isn't your nor Ivan's fault.
@ Ivan
Since this is done via IMSTO again: Is there a possibility to fix the capslock issue from last round? In a perfect world I want a matching key for every design we ordered, but I would also be content with a generic capslock key with black legends or a blank one.
Can you please check what possibilities there are? Thanks! I feel IMSTO owes us something since he didn't deliver what we actually ordered and paid for...
Post by: eyesmiles on Fri, 15 November 2013, 02:53:01
Since this is done via IMSTO again: Is there a possibility to fix the capslock issue from last round? In a perfect world I want a matching key for every design we ordered, but I would also be content with a generic capslock key with black legends or a blank one.
Can you please check what possibilities there are? Thanks! I feel IMSTO owes us something since he didn't deliver what we actually ordered and paid for...
Not to speak for Ivan, but I'm fairly certain a same color stepped and non-stepped caps lock is attainable for blank sets. For example, just looking at the blank white/grey/blue sets everything is consistent. In terms of what I'm assuming will be dark charcoal with black legends, the stepped and non-stepped caplocks should be the consistent as well. Judging by the dyesubbed sets that have been made so far, when the base keycap color is all the same, there are no problems. When it's the white/beige two tone colorway, that's when things get iffy like the factory is too lazy to produce a beige non-stepped caplocks because they have to set up the machines all over again (just my theory).
On another note in terms of MOQ, I believe the 400 can be reached. We're not taking about GMK packs/combinations we have to piece together that will total over $100 easily (Not to hate because I love GMK goodness). Each set is under $100 and contains everything a person needs to fill their keyboards. My guess is, many may come out of lurking and newer members won't have to hesitate to participate in this; they're simple black keycaps. They won't have to worry about if whether or not they got the correct language set or question if the set will come with a spacebar. It's all there :thumb:
Post by: bazh on Fri, 15 November 2013, 03:13:32
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 15 November 2013, 04:02:01
Ordered.
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 15 November 2013, 04:06:16
Any chance of having 4 more top row blanks?
+1 would love 4 extra blank keys for my ducky
I would also be interested in some keys from the blank set to get extra keys for ISO. I guess we could split a set accordingly :)
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 04:23:18
If MOQ is 400 then why not go with BSP? If it is because they don't have 1.25 mods or something weird then just get those from imsto and everything else from BSP.
Is BSP better?
Post by: bazh on Fri, 15 November 2013, 05:08:37
If MOQ is 400 then why not go with BSP? If it is because they don't have 1.25 mods or something weird then just get those from imsto and everything else from BSP.
Is BSP better?
BSP has 1.5x mods so one who use 86/84 layout will want to stick with BSP
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 November 2013, 08:37:40
Someday I might try ordering with BSP but they lack keys most people want/need for average keyboard and are a lot more expensive.
Post by: JPG on Fri, 15 November 2013, 08:43:44
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 November 2013, 08:48:37
Post by: divito on Fri, 15 November 2013, 10:27:36
Post by: Hyde on Fri, 15 November 2013, 13:37:09
:P
Post by: Lu_e on Fri, 15 November 2013, 15:13:32
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 November 2013, 15:37:21
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 15 November 2013, 17:22:50
I'll put my order in tonight. [if we're each buying a printed a non printed it's only 200 :P]
Post by: acidtrip69 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 17:44:22
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 15 November 2013, 18:26:19
Ivan stop with the awesome GBs
I'm running out of money
Post by: catbuster on Fri, 15 November 2013, 19:39:48
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 15 November 2013, 19:40:27
These will fit perfect on poker 2 right? :) I am kinda new here...
Yes :)
Post by: Rayne on Fri, 15 November 2013, 20:18:49
Post by: catbuster on Sat, 16 November 2013, 03:31:34
Post by: would on Sat, 16 November 2013, 04:25:15
Post by: moogle on Sat, 16 November 2013, 04:30:26
Post by: cruk on Sat, 16 November 2013, 04:44:57
I've asked for sample key black on black dyesub to make sure it will look good. I don't know when/if I will have it yet.
Will wait out for the sample before placing my order to avoid future hassles ;)
Post by: damorgue on Sat, 16 November 2013, 04:52:33
(Mainly posting to keep tabs of the thread and any updates to this. I'd be in if other languages are added.)
Edit: The blank set is only missing 4 keys to cover ISO. I get why it won't be possible to make it happen for the set with legends.
Post by: would on Sat, 16 November 2013, 04:54:01
it won't be black black; the base will have to be lighter for black dyesub legends to work
I'm actually hoping for that. I prefer charcoal over black.
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 16 November 2013, 09:10:20
i will like to ask, If you can do a set that have Silver legends ? in color Silver, not white ?I don't think that this is possible with the dyesub process. You can only make the printing darker, not lighter than the keycap colour.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 16 November 2013, 09:37:42
It's going to be dark enough to call black, but still allow printing a few shades darker black. The printing will be very very subtle.
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 16 November 2013, 15:47:42
The printing will be very very subtle.
I might be one of the few who wants it basically invisible.
*fingers crossed it's not too light for my tastes*
Edit: Hey Ivan, should I place an order for 2 blank sets now, and another for a printed set later, or just hold out and do it all at once.
Post by: Lu_e on Sat, 16 November 2013, 17:05:07
Post by: Halbyrd on Sat, 16 November 2013, 23:02:40
Post by: bueller on Sat, 16 November 2013, 23:08:55
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.
I doubt that very much.
Post by: Halbyrd on Sun, 17 November 2013, 03:29:37
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.
I doubt that very much.
Meh, guess I'll pass then. My next best hope is to find a set of DSA PBT caps with this kind of lettering--DSA rows are all the same, so I don't have to care much about the "layout".
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 17 November 2013, 09:14:40
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.As with the last Dvorak set(s) made, I will buy some if they are offered.
Hopefully the printing will be straighter this time.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 17 November 2013, 09:15:38
Post by: tobias on Sun, 17 November 2013, 15:14:20
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.
I doubt that very much.
I would also be interested in getting the Dvorak layout!!!
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 17 November 2013, 15:21:41
I offered Dvorak on the first PBT set buy I did. Very few people were interested so I haven't offered it again.But those people were very interested!
I use both my sets every day.
Post by: Forever on Sun, 17 November 2013, 16:40:26
But according to some of my chinese friends, it has a poor quality. After a few weeks using, the legends on keycaps disappeared, which is ridiculous for dyesub keycaps.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:43:11
Post by: alon93 on Mon, 18 November 2013, 05:13:02
4 extra top row keys add $4 to the set price.
How can I order this option? I want a blank set (or maybe printed if we'll get to see a sample)
Also in your experience how much will shipping to Israel be for 1 set?
Thanks
Post by: phantomz on Mon, 18 November 2013, 11:06:37
Thanks Ivan for setting this up.
Post by: Dreamre on Mon, 18 November 2013, 13:20:03
Post by: Willy on Mon, 18 November 2013, 14:15:34
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 18 November 2013, 14:18:05
Will be purchasing this before the deadline. Highly interested :).
I don't get this. You don't have to pay any money right now. Invoices will be sent after MOQ was reached.
If everybody did this we would never reach MOQ...
If you are so sure about ordering please just submit your order now. If anything changes in a couple of weeks you can still cancel it :thumb:
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 18 November 2013, 15:03:30
I will think about adding Dvorak if there is at least 20 people that want it.I will be hyping this as much as possible.
Lets get to 20 people!
Post by: theMANtonio on Mon, 18 November 2013, 15:22:04
Thanks for organizing.
Post by: dante on Mon, 18 November 2013, 20:39:40
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 18 November 2013, 22:46:49
Post by: CriticalHit on Tue, 19 November 2013, 00:27:28
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 19 November 2013, 01:14:47
I don't think this has been asked yet: Will these have a 6 stem spacebar for Leopold FC200R compatibility?
I don't know for sure, but I assume the spacebars will be similar to Ivan's other PBT GBs. These only had 4 stems (for modern boards like Filco and vintage Cherry boards).
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 19 November 2013, 12:04:47
I don't get this. You don't have to pay any money right now. Invoices will be sent after MOQ was reached.
If everybody did this we would never reach MOQ...
If you are so sure about ordering please just submit your order now. If anything changes in a couple of weeks you can still cancel it :thumb:
A wise man. This times 1000.
No the spacebar is only compatible for standard (ie Filco, CM QFR, Poker, Ducky, etc) and Cherry mount.
I was trying to decide what to do about those who want the extra 4 keys in the sets... I think I will just make it a separate item instead of increasing the cost for everyone. I suppose it can be useful for other purposes that way to buy as many additional 4 keys as you may need. If you require those keys please re submit your order in the form.
Post by: GeorgeK on Tue, 19 November 2013, 12:45:09
Post by: alon93 on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:09:32
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 19 November 2013, 13:26:25
Post by: dante on Tue, 19 November 2013, 15:43:46
Still waiting to hear back about sample from imsto for sure. Said probably only able to get color sample plank, not key.
Can you double check on the space bar? Feng is selling Thick PBT's from Imsto too and he claims they are compatible with the Leopold. Maybe they were revised since then?
Just thinking outside the box - if they do work on the FC200R this might attract more buyers for the MOQ.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 19 November 2013, 16:38:46
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 19 November 2013, 17:23:30
Still waiting to hear back about sample from imsto for sure. Said probably only able to get color sample plank, not key.A plank would be fine, as long as it shows the printing and the colour. Even just a big square area is good. Thanks for looking into this.
Half the sets feng has were from my earlier groupbuy and are certinaly not Leopold compatible spacebar. The spacebar have 4 stems 2 on the outside for normal stabs distance and 2 in the center section for the switch.This should provide compatibility with both OEM (filco, etc) and Cherry keyboards.
Post by: genkigavin on Tue, 19 November 2013, 17:37:54
Post by: Vitamins on Tue, 19 November 2013, 22:14:43
This is awesome, order submitted.
Thanks Ivan.
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Wed, 20 November 2013, 00:05:24
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 20 November 2013, 00:46:55
I'm in for 5 sets :3
That's the spirit! :p
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 20 November 2013, 12:06:00
I'm in for 5 sets :3
You may as well pick up a Dvorak set while you're here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.msg1122318#msg1122318)
Post by: tbuck153 on Wed, 20 November 2013, 14:44:12
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 20 November 2013, 18:23:18
Post by: midnight2903 on Thu, 21 November 2013, 12:30:33
Post by: JPG on Thu, 21 November 2013, 12:37:44
How do you differentiate PBT blank with normal blank keycaps?
pbt will feel different (more textured to me) while abs feels more smooth. Also, pbt will not shine or take a lot of time before shining.
Also, these keycaps are thick and cherry profile while most keycaps you will have on stock keyboards are oem profile and thin. It's all about personal preference, but many people prefer thick keycaps and the cherry profile since it gives the feeling that the keycaps are more stable and sturdy and it absorbs more sound.
Honestly, I was surprised when I tried my first thick pbt keycaps with cherry profile set because it really had a BIG impact on the typing experience, all positive for me.
Post by: Loligagger on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:46:47
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:48:32
Post by: Loligagger on Thu, 21 November 2013, 14:51:14
Anyone want to trade a blank stepped caps lock for a full touch one once these ship? :rolleyes:
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 21 November 2013, 17:37:59
Post by: geogga on Thu, 21 November 2013, 17:43:09
Unfortunately I won't be able to order yet, maybe in a week-two weeks, but will put a order if orders mysteriously rise quickly.
How would we cancel it later? Would we send a message to you later?
Edit: signed up anyway, since it's paypal, it's under my mom's name, but provided both names incase.
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 22 November 2013, 17:51:50
Hello Ivan, I must thank you for doing this because I was looking for a black blank PBT cherry set but every where was sold out.
Unfortunately I won't be able to order yet, maybe in a week-two weeks, but will put a order if orders mysteriously rise quickly.
How would we cancel it later? Would we send a message to you later?
Edit: signed up anyway, since it's paypal, it's under my mom's name, but provided both names incase.
Orders close mid-January - you have plenty of time even to order at the last minute.
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 23 November 2013, 02:46:04
Hello Ivan, I must thank you for doing this because I was looking for a black blank PBT cherry set but every where was sold out.
Unfortunately I won't be able to order yet, maybe in a week-two weeks, but will put a order if orders mysteriously rise quickly.
How would we cancel it later? Would we send a message to you later?
Edit: signed up anyway, since it's paypal, it's under my mom's name, but provided both names incase.
Orders close mid-January - you have plenty of time even to order at the last minute.
Just order right now. If something comes up you can cancel.
Post by: WindyDays on Sat, 23 November 2013, 20:54:36
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 24 November 2013, 10:16:28
Post by: mondoman712 on Sun, 24 November 2013, 11:43:47
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 24 November 2013, 13:17:24
How long will it be before I get them? and is there any chance I could get a 60% set for my poker II (for less money because I need less keys)?
Extremely unlikely. There are only two options to keep it simple. If a 60% set was added then it would have to reach MOQ in and of itself, which is even more unlikely.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 24 November 2013, 16:23:17
Post by: dante on Sun, 24 November 2013, 20:05:34
No sorry, only 104+ set is available.
You get to go through all the pain I did when I tried running the POM GB. Despite what is available in the first post people will still want something different. :D
Post by: tbc on Sun, 24 November 2013, 21:09:18
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sun, 24 November 2013, 22:28:12
Please add 2 more blank sets to my order IvanIvanovich ;)
Post by: strict on Mon, 25 November 2013, 08:10:09
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 25 November 2013, 11:37:13
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 25 November 2013, 11:41:17
Post by: gameaholic on Mon, 25 November 2013, 22:50:30
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 26 November 2013, 01:20:43
Will definitely order one set of blanks and probably order one set of printed before Jan. Gotta see sample first.
This is so many people. :P
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 26 November 2013, 01:27:34
Do you really think Ivan would produce a set that looks ****ty?
In my opinion it would be better if everybody who is interested in this set just placed an order, so we have an actual interest count. Right now people might look at this GB and think it's not even worth thinking about participating because it won't happen anyway since we haven't even reached 1/4 of MOQ.
If the samples turn out to look like crap and Ivan still decides to go for it (which won't happen), you can still cancel your order - nothing lost for you...
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 26 November 2013, 02:07:54
I don't know what those samples change for you.
Do you really think Ivan would produce a set that looks ****ty?
In my opinion it would be better if everybody who is interested in this set just placed an order, so we have an actual interest count. Right now people might look at this GB and think it's not even worth thinking about participating because it won't happen anyway since we haven't even reached 1/4 of MOQ.
If the samples turn out to look like crap and Ivan still decides to go for it (which won't happen), you can still cancel your order - nothing lost for you...
I've placed an order for 2 blanks and 1 printed. But if the printed is more gray and visible than I'd like I'll cancel my printed. Just saying though, what people are looking for with the printed set varies.
Post by: YongJK on Wed, 27 November 2013, 02:19:08
Can you check whether or not I put an order?
I want to make sure before I have dupe order.
Post by: bueller on Wed, 27 November 2013, 02:22:33
In my opinion it would be better if everybody who is interested in this set just placed an order, so we have an actual interest count.
+1
Get those orders in guys, Ivan will be no doubt confirming orders closer to invoice date so you have plenty of time to pull out if you don't like the examples or don't have the cash.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 27 November 2013, 11:39:40
YongJK you have not placed an order yet.
Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 11:44:17
imsto has told me factory will be matching against black/black Realforce key (see example post 10) so if you like that shade black you should be all set.
YongJK you have not placed an order yet.
hot damn! sounds good
Post by: raphdu57 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 12:18:59
Ordered.
Thanks for GB!
Post by: SelektaM on Wed, 27 November 2013, 15:09:22
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 27 November 2013, 17:12:57
imsto has told me factory will be matching against black/black Realforce key (see example post 10) so if you like that shade black you should be all set.
Excellent! That is a really nice colour combination.
Thanks for the info.
Post by: tbc on Thu, 28 November 2013, 00:00:37
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 28 November 2013, 01:26:49
i don't understand how people can't see the legends on the rf boards....there is an extreme amount of contrast there
+1 I wanted something much more subtle. I admit I am afraid the blank black will be gray colored keys like RF as well. I was hoping it would match my black Filco case.
Post by: tbc on Thu, 28 November 2013, 02:42:22
EDIT: at the end of the day, I'm still good for this gb because it's the best we can get.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 28 November 2013, 10:48:14
(http://www.netsourceinc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blacks.jpg)
Post by: WinterIsle on Thu, 28 November 2013, 11:00:01
Would love it more if its rich black ♥
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 28 November 2013, 21:03:55
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 28 November 2013, 21:05:15
is dyesub or double shot better for longer lasting keys?
Pbt is better than abs in that department
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 28 November 2013, 21:10:00
only problem is I own a 75% and a cherry 11900, 75% would waste a bunch of keys and the 11900 would waste the bottom row keys due to 6x spacebar and 1x mods.....FML
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 28 November 2013, 21:46:13
So tempted by the blanks as a set to replace all sets.
only problem is I own a 75% and a cherry 11900, 75% would waste a bunch of keys and the 11900 would waste the bottom row keys due to 6x spacebar and 1x mods.....FML
Sounds like a first world problem.
Post by: tbc on Thu, 28 November 2013, 23:53:33
So tempted by the blanks as a set to replace all sets.
only problem is I own a 75% and a cherry 11900, 75% would waste a bunch of keys and the 11900 would waste the bottom row keys due to 6x spacebar and 1x mods.....FML
um....just deal with it?
it's cheaper than anything with legends and it's just cheap in general.
I haven't seen too many dedicated 75% keysets
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 29 November 2013, 01:37:27
Post by: Six on Fri, 29 November 2013, 21:10:39
Is the spacebar pbt as well?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 30 November 2013, 09:43:50
Post by: WindyDays on Sun, 01 December 2013, 23:12:59
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Mon, 02 December 2013, 10:52:28
Post by: boost on Mon, 02 December 2013, 11:09:47
Post by: j0hnny on Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:58:42
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 02 December 2013, 18:34:47
All the sets will be same black. See the Realforce black on black, it will be just like it.
MOQ must be met, perhaps some vendor would like to order some larger amounts...
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:48:43
Post by: IPT on Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:40:45
Post by: t2russo on Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:49:47
possibly the originative black friday sale affected this.
50 sets? I'm in on both since I figured getting to 400 here was going to be shifty until the last minute, given the ability of people to make an account and say that they are interested in the buy and need to wait, but are unable to read the first post and understand that if they do not put in their vote into what is basically an interest poll, all of their hand wringing is for naught. The fact that Sherry is getting IMSTO just to make the 1.25x and 6.25x keys for his kit and relying on BSP for the wkl keys means that he's getting IMSTO's factory rolling for Realforce replicas. That might speed up the samples for Ivan, but the hard fact is that Ivan has to basically herd cats into following instructions and making commitments so that he can actually try to get people the product they've been waiting for. Originative just said **** it and threw money at the problem because they are a business. That's how you make sure things come to market. If people didn't want Originative's pricing, they needed to commit to this. You can't be wishy washy and expect people to pick up the slack for you.
PS. TOTES NO ANGER AT THE projectD
Just felt like explaining what's been going through my head with these two buys, I'd really like to see this be successful because a blank black Cherry set has always been my dream keyset ever since I saw a 356L. Ever since the thin PBT's with/without the gold sideprint seemed to be EOL'd, there has definitely been a huge void in the market.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:11:21
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:20:19
Yeah this happens a lot around here I think. People always say oh I will wait to order to see if it's going to make it. Problem is 80% is doing the same, no one places order and it fails. If you want things, place the order. If it still doesn't happen you 'wasted' couple minutes filling the form, not much of a loss for you.
+1, you're not throwing money at anything. Just fill out those forms people!
Post by: tobias on Wed, 04 December 2013, 04:35:11
Yeah this happens a lot around here I think. People always say oh I will wait to order to see if it's going to make it. Problem is 80% is doing the same, no one places order and it fails. If you want things, place the order. If it still doesn't happen you 'wasted' couple minutes filling the form, not much of a loss for you.
+1, you're not throwing money at anything. Just fill out those forms people!
i totally agree!!!
Post by: catbuster on Fri, 06 December 2013, 05:45:57
Can i use different email to get invoice than my paypal email?
Post by: Biased opinion on Fri, 06 December 2013, 07:29:19
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:39:34
Quick question?
Can i use different email to get invoice than my paypal email?
You can, but I strongly prefer that you do not. It makes it a lot harder if I need to follow up on something when my data dosen't match up in my order sheet vs. paypal.
Post by: balanar on Sat, 07 December 2013, 21:29:50
Post by: gameaholic on Sun, 08 December 2013, 17:28:16
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 09 December 2013, 16:49:17
ordered the blanks to- for my ducky
these blanks r top row correct? just asking to see if there are any for bottom row- g80, num pad?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 09 December 2013, 17:44:50
Post by: acediac01 on Tue, 10 December 2013, 11:26:54
Post by: Stevenator21 on Wed, 11 December 2013, 19:40:06
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 11 December 2013, 19:53:35
Post by: Stevenator21 on Wed, 11 December 2013, 20:25:59
Usually couple month after order is paid to production.
Awesome! I think I will order the day after XMAS, because I get my keyboard the day before. Really hoping this goes through, it is just what I have been looking for!
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 11 December 2013, 20:28:07
Usually couple month after order is paid to production.
Awesome! I think I will order the day after XMAS, because I get my keyboard the day before. Really hoping this goes through, it is just what I have been looking for!
Well we do need to hit that MOQ,,,
Post by: divito on Wed, 11 December 2013, 21:01:45
Post by: Stevenator21 on Wed, 11 December 2013, 21:47:38
Threw in an order for one of each so far to help with MOQ. Would be a shame if we're not able to hit it people.
Yeah I am really hoping that this one goes through.
Post by: _howsyourcat on Wed, 11 December 2013, 21:52:55
Post by: epzy on Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:35:15
Post by: Pacifist on Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:36:49
Post by: dante on Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:32:36
why is their moq so high?
You would think they would be satisfied with just a moq of 100 or 200 - think how easy it is - no QC'ing legend quality nor wear and tear on the engraving machine.
^ blanks (only)
Still .. wtf
Post by: eyesmiles on Thu, 12 December 2013, 01:17:31
why is their moq so high?
Just by looking on taobao, you can see China really enjoys vivid colors when you look up keycaps. The amount of unicorn vomit is quite impressive. But what does that all have in common? The possibility for legends to be visible. Each black PBT keycap that's still available has some sort of engraved, infill design. Looking at the black PBT sets a few years back, most were laser engraved or etched to show legends. My guess for the high MOQ is that the factory that imsto, KBC, Vortex, what-have-you uses probably thinks that dye subbing sets in all black isn't beneficial for them hence why you rarely see black PBT sets nowadays. Ducky black PBT sets are a good example as mechanicalkeyboards, etc. haven't gotten stock since forever (aside from what Ducky Nordic can come up with like the engraved QWERTZ sets, etc. but even those are only a few). Another is that Vortex black on black/charcoal set with the ugly font. You hardly see those anymore (probably because the font was so ugly :p). I'm certain that dark charcoal will be similar to what will be used for the non blank set so the Cherry font can be dye sub onto it.
I remember bugging imsto (others have too I believe) if he would do blank, black sets and he would reply with a simple 'No' regardless of whatever amount you'd pay him/bribe him with. I'm still curious as to what Ivan said to imsto so he could convince the factory to run these sets. I'm still hoping for more people to get in on this because I really would like to see this actually happen as there's a spacebar that's PBT as opposed to BSP and their lack of spacebar molds.
My $0.02.
Post by: tbc on Thu, 12 December 2013, 01:39:14
Post by: geogga on Thu, 12 December 2013, 07:33:57
Read almost 8000 times.
Post by: watterrbottle on Thu, 12 December 2013, 10:36:31
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 12 December 2013, 10:50:36
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 12 December 2013, 10:53:36
I'm new to this process. If the MOQ isn't hit before January 15th, what happens? Do we just hang tight until we reach the MOQ?Maybe we have to continue wait until hit MOQ
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 12 December 2013, 11:21:00
What I say to imsto to agree these? Well that is easy... accept 400 MOQ factory wants. It's probably pretty much a custom order, they need to get black PBT material. I am sure they want to use the volume, as they are probably subject to minimum order from materials supplier too, and not have it laying about.
Post by: Stevenator21 on Thu, 12 December 2013, 14:33:51
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 12 December 2013, 14:37:29
Will these be thick?
yes, imsto pbt is thick pbt
Post by: Stevenator21 on Thu, 12 December 2013, 17:16:18
Will these be thick?
yes, imsto pbt is thick pbt
Sweet, thanks! Also, thanks Ivan for this GB, my fingers are crossed on the MOQ being reached.
Post by: ynrozturk on Thu, 12 December 2013, 18:01:02
Ordered.
Thanks for doing this Ivan!
Post by: Glenn315 on Thu, 12 December 2013, 18:41:06
Post by: Stevenator21 on Thu, 12 December 2013, 20:16:47
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 12 December 2013, 20:34:12
Now I have the hard decision.... Blanks or Black on Black. First world problems.
Both!
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 12 December 2013, 21:17:39
Now I have the hard decision.... Blanks or Black on Black. First world problems.I think you should choose blank because it is full blank. About black on black, there is 3 key blank. I think it is not uniform :)
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 13 December 2013, 01:03:40
Now I have the hard decision.... Blanks or Black on Black. First world problems.I think you should choose blank because it is full blank. About black on black, there is 3 key blank. I think it is not uniform :)
Do what I did and get two blanks and a printed set.
GET THIS MOQ FCK I WANT THESE
Post by: alon93 on Fri, 13 December 2013, 05:04:42
Post by: Psybin on Fri, 13 December 2013, 05:14:41
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 13 December 2013, 11:32:49
Post by: genkigavin on Fri, 13 December 2013, 11:51:37
Post by: Stevenator21 on Fri, 13 December 2013, 12:18:25
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 13 December 2013, 12:48:54
Post by: IPT on Fri, 13 December 2013, 12:49:51
Could people buy them only to sell them after the GB to get the MOQ up?
noone is stopping them
except for people who will troll saying you paid so and so price on the GB, why are you charging more blah blah
Post by: Stevenator21 on Fri, 13 December 2013, 13:24:57
Could people buy them only to sell them after the GB to get the MOQ up?
noone is stopping them
except for people who will troll saying you paid so and so price on the GB, why are you charging more blah blah
Okay thanks for the clarification. Was wondering because I may buy both, keep which I like more and sell the other off lower than GB price.
Post by: Stevenator21 on Fri, 13 December 2013, 19:47:29
Will the black on black look like this?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 13 December 2013, 19:51:31
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 14 December 2013, 10:20:40
As far as I know there was no major GB for this before. People should be all over it, but I guess many are just broke around christmas ;)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 14 December 2013, 10:39:54
Post by: dante on Sat, 14 December 2013, 10:57:11
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 14 December 2013, 11:37:43
If these turn out well, they might be my end game key caps.
Even though this is geekhack, so usually that means the game is never over. Lol!
Post by: Stevenator21 on Sat, 14 December 2013, 16:01:03
The grey of the Topre caps makes me wonder.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 14 December 2013, 16:04:47
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 15 December 2013, 08:21:32
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 15 December 2013, 10:45:04
Post by: Psybin on Sun, 15 December 2013, 11:32:39
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:59:56
Post by: jorgenslee on Sun, 15 December 2013, 21:21:15
International shipping cost about $7-11.
cool. order placed. Thanks
Post by: adhoc on Mon, 16 December 2013, 05:33:37
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 16 December 2013, 05:41:40
Post by: adhoc on Mon, 16 December 2013, 05:57:29
Post by: ynrozturk on Mon, 16 December 2013, 06:08:02
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 16 December 2013, 06:10:41
Post by: adhoc on Mon, 16 December 2013, 06:13:33
Either way it's more a rhetorical question and I can't believe I have to explain this.
Post by: ynrozturk on Mon, 16 December 2013, 06:52:55
Post by: Shinryuu on Mon, 16 December 2013, 08:04:27
EDIT1. Order done
Post by: adhoc on Mon, 16 December 2013, 08:08:13
What's a rhetorical question.
Yes.
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 16 December 2013, 08:15:04
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 16 December 2013, 08:16:44
The MOQ of 400 is for both sets combined and not for each set right?
If so, I could probably squeeze in a blank set to my existing order, but right now this wouldn't change much I guess...
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 16 December 2013, 10:54:35
I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?
I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:02:00
For me matching colors are way more important than matching materials. An ISO add on set is only interesting if it's the exact same shade of black in my opinion.
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:16:20
exact same shade of black
I imagine that'd be very hard to achieve - two different companies using two different materials would more than likely lead to slightly different shades of black...
I'm not that fussed by the ISO keys but maybe 1.5 mods etc might be cool - if it doesn't add to the price too much (say $5-10) then I'd be in :thumb:
Post by: naokira on Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:18:57
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.
I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?
I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?
yeah if only we get that ISO and winkeyless at a low price. I'm definitely down for atleast 2 :)
Have you tried contacting GMK about this?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:27:08
Post by: strict on Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:28:15
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.
I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?
I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?
I might put in for a second set of these caps except in blank to help us meet the MOQ. How should I go about this? Just place another order like I did for the first set or is there a way to edit my existing order?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:29:44
Post by: naokira on Mon, 16 December 2013, 13:08:29
No I haven't got in touch with GMK yet, just something that came up recently as an idea chatting with some other members. I thought I would see reaction first. As far as color matching perfetly, I think it's safe to go on assumption it will not.
Sherry did the otaku with bsp and imsto, though I don't think bsp has iso enter.
Post by: adhoc on Mon, 16 December 2013, 13:23:45
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.
I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?
I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?
Isn't ANSI exactly the same as ISO only different enter and 105 keys vs 104? I'd be interested if I could get a full blank black set of caps for my Cherry G80-3000, even if that means enter would be ABS...I don't think the difference in colour would be that great, would it?
Post by: strict on Mon, 16 December 2013, 13:25:02
If you saved the link the form gave you at the end you can use that to edit your order entries. Otherwise just place a new order with all your info and everything you want and the old ones will get deleted.
Thanks for the info. Since I did not save the old URL I just submitted a new order for a set of blanks and a set of dye sub. I figure I can try them both and keep which ever I like better.
I really, really hope we can meet MOQ, I'm dying for a set of these!
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 16 December 2013, 13:26:22
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.
I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?
I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?
Isn't ANSI exactly the same as ISO only different enter and 105 keys vs 104? I'd be interested if I could get a full blank black set of caps for my Cherry G80-3000, even if that means enter would be ABS...I don't think the difference in colour would be that great, would it?
The left shift is a different size and the legends are different on a good number of keycaps. There's an extra 1x keycap on the asdfg row and zxcv row too.
Post by: Lu_e on Mon, 16 December 2013, 14:06:39
No I haven't got in touch with GMK yet, just something that came up recently as an idea chatting with some other members. I thought I would see reaction first.
If its an add on then fine, but I don't want to pay for something I have 0 use for.
Post by: terrpn on Mon, 16 December 2013, 14:24:15
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.
I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?
I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?
:thumb:
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 16 December 2013, 15:41:31
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 16 December 2013, 16:35:20
Post by: catbuster on Thu, 19 December 2013, 09:50:25
Post by: WinterIsle on Thu, 19 December 2013, 10:15:37
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 19 December 2013, 12:50:25
Post by: genkigavin on Thu, 19 December 2013, 14:30:51
If you saved the link the form gave you at the end you can use that to edit your order entries. Otherwise just place a new order with all your info and everything you want and the old ones will get deleted.
Ohh they get deleted. I'm going to fill a third form with both old forms combined and save the url this time. Thanks for clarifying.
Post by: Lu_e on Thu, 19 December 2013, 15:50:45
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 19 December 2013, 18:24:53
(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
Post by: moogle on Thu, 19 December 2013, 18:36:55
Post by: IPT on Thu, 19 December 2013, 18:47:17
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 19 December 2013, 18:56:01
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
Oh snap. I want that. :eek:
Post by: bueller on Thu, 19 December 2013, 19:15:39
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
If that is an option you'll have another order from me.
Post by: WinterIsle on Thu, 19 December 2013, 19:43:28
Post by: naokira on Thu, 19 December 2013, 21:53:03
Post by: Lu_e on Fri, 20 December 2013, 00:07:55
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 20 December 2013, 00:54:52
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
As I already said on DT .... honestly I am not a big fan of it. It's just too extravagant for me.
And the fact that I had to google "Aurebesh" to know what it's supposed to be, speaks for itself I think. Maybe I am not nerdy enough, but I have seen the classic Star Wars Triology like 20 times, read a lot of SW books and played many SW video games and still haven't heard of that word before (maybe it's different in German...).
But of course my personal opinion doesn't mean you shouldn't try it!
What MOQ are we talking about? Does this help towards the 400 or would this be totally separate?
Post by: bueller on Fri, 20 December 2013, 00:57:26
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
As I already said on DT .... honestly I am not a big fan of it. It's just too extravagant for me.
And the fact that I had to google "Aurebesh" to know what it's supposed to be, speaks for itself I think. Maybe I am not nerdy enough, but I have seen the classic Star Wars Triology like 20 times, read a lot of SW books and played many SW video games and still haven't heard of that word before (maybe it's different in German...).
But of course my personal opinion doesn't mean you shouldn't try it!
What MOQ are we talking about? Does this help towards the 400 or would this be totally separate?
This would help towards MOQ, we just need to meet 400 blank sets and then they can be divided up between the different printed/blank orders.
Post by: tbc on Fri, 20 December 2013, 01:00:01
I have no issue with having extra abs iso keys around.
EDIT:
Is it possible to dyesub the entire key a darker black? I heard of only swiss studios or w/e having that machinery/technique though.
I would pay a straight $100 for that.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 20 December 2013, 01:04:19
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
On second thought, would there be any way to get legends where the main legend is regular ansi and there's a secondary legend with these characters? Similar to Miami Odessa or many of the other multilingual sets you've made.
Post by: bueller on Fri, 20 December 2013, 01:05:48
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
On second thought, would there be any way to get legends where the main legend is regular ansi and there's a secondary legend with these characters? Similar to Miami Odessa or many of the other multilingual sets you've made.
Only problem I can see with that is that the Odessa set had different coloured legends. Black in black with sub legends would probably be pretty hard to read.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 20 December 2013, 01:07:44
Worked up another printed set idea...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE
Any interest?
On second thought, would there be any way to get legends where the main legend is regular ansi and there's a secondary legend with these characters? Similar to Miami Odessa or many of the other multilingual sets you've made.
Only problem I can see with that is that the Odessa set had different coloured legends. Black in black with sub legends would probably be pretty hard to read.
Quite possibly, indeed. Hmm. :-\
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 20 December 2013, 07:40:46
Would this help us meet moq?
Post by: naokira on Fri, 20 December 2013, 11:20:29
I would offer 13 virgins for this
For context:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38264.0 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38264.0)
Post by: yjfknt on Fri, 20 December 2013, 11:46:12
I'm trying to get cherry profiled keycaps but I want a whole set that actually fits.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 20 December 2013, 13:17:36
US sublegends on Aurebesh? I don't think it look good, this is more a hardcore SW set for novelty sake.
I might come up with some other font options, maybe something more modern normal fonts.
400 MOQ period, so anything ordered helps make the MOQ as it's all one MOQ for the black keysets. Printed option is just an extra step.
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 20 December 2013, 14:12:58
Post by: dante on Fri, 20 December 2013, 15:18:21
You are still far more successful with this gb than I was with my failed POM one. And that one only had a MOQ of 200.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 20 December 2013, 15:31:42
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 10:14:31
Black on Black should come out looking similar to how it was with the Realforce:Show Image(http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/87UB_led1000_th0x0.jpg)
Indeed it is not a high visibility.
Order won't go to production without the MOQ of 400 total sets ordered. I have not made an order with the factory yet, only made sure it is possible.
Why not OEM? Because Cherry is BETTER!
I hope the final set will look like this :
(http://i.imgur.com/h1F81q4.png)
Absolutely, it's a ninja dyesub PBT keyset with Cherry profile :thumb:
or like this if mixed with Imsto grey/gray set :
(http://i.imgur.com/lJJEV6Z.png)
Edited: I added more themes
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:06:07
Black on Black should come out looking similar to how it was with the Realforce:Show Image(http://elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/87UB_led1000_th0x0.jpg)
Indeed it is not a high visibility.
Order won't go to production without the MOQ of 400 total sets ordered. I have not made an order with the factory yet, only made sure it is possible.
Why not OEM? Because Cherry is BETTER!
I hope the final set will look like this :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wn0USkG.png)
Absolutely, it's a ninja dyesub PBT keyset with Cherry profile :thumb:
1.5 , 1.0 R4 mods + x7 spacebar in the set? where you getting this info from?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:07:30
Post by: naokira on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:22:18
1.5, 7, 1.75, ISO enter, windowed lock keys will all be available soon. BUT only as blank, printed is not option with those.
going gmk ivan?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 21 December 2013, 16:25:08
Post by: phoenix1234 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 20:48:44
1.5 , 1.0 R4 mods + x7 spacebar in the set? where you getting this info from?
I just collected information from this thread, draw it and hope the final results will be what I expect
(http://i.imgur.com/h1F81q4.png)
mixed with imsto grey/gray dyesub set
(http://i.imgur.com/lJJEV6Z.png)
Indeed, it maybe slightly different in reality but well, a ninja is still a ninja, it's my dream set, you know :))
Post by: bazemk1979 on Sat, 21 December 2013, 21:25:52
1.5, 7, 1.75, ISO enter, windowed lock keys will all be available soon. BUT only as blank, printed is not option with those.
since these will be GMK, are they PBT? thick or the thin PBT we find from GMK on the beige printed PBT keys?
Post by: colinm478 on Sun, 22 December 2013, 00:44:55
Oh, and first post!
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 22 December 2013, 00:59:11
I am planning on getting the black on black set, but I have one question as I am new to mechanical keyboards, will these work fine with a Filco Majestouch full keyboard? The best I can tell it looks like it will work, but I need to be certain.
Oh, and first post!
yes
Post by: kenmai9 on Sun, 22 December 2013, 01:00:13
I am planning on getting the black on black set, but I have one question as I am new to mechanical keyboards, will these work fine with a Filco Majestouch full keyboard? The best I can tell it looks like it will work, but I need to be certain.
Oh, and first post!
Almost all sets in the group buy section will fit the standard Filco keyboard. You're lucky you have the most standard layout :D
Post by: colinm478 on Sun, 22 December 2013, 01:05:22
I am planning on getting the black on black set, but I have one question as I am new to mechanical keyboards, will these work fine with a Filco Majestouch full keyboard? The best I can tell it looks like it will work, but I need to be certain.
Oh, and first post!
Almost all sets in the group buy section will fit the standard Filco keyboard. You're lucky you have the most standard layout :D
Well, will have. It's a little Christmas present to myself. I haven't used a mech. keyboard since early 2000s when we had an IBM keyboard. Ever since then I've been on annoying keyboards, right now I'm typing on a scissor style wireless. It sucks...
So excited!
Last question to you guys, do these group buys get canceled a lot of the time? I saw a few threads marked canceled, so I was wondering the chances of this one making it?
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 22 December 2013, 01:06:24
I am planning on getting the black on black set, but I have one question as I am new to mechanical keyboards, will these work fine with a Filco Majestouch full keyboard? The best I can tell it looks like it will work, but I need to be certain.
Oh, and first post!
Almost all sets in the group buy section will fit the standard Filco keyboard. You're lucky you have the most standard layout :D
Well, will have. It's a little Christmas present to myself. I haven't used a mech. keyboard since early 2000s when we had an IBM keyboard. Ever since then I've been on annoying keyboards, right now I'm typing on a scissor style wireless. It sucks...
So excited!
Last question to you guys, do these group buys get canceled a lot of the time? I saw a few threads marked canceled, so I was wondering the chances of this one making it?
Most hit the MOQ
But because this buy has a MOQ of 400, its slim
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 22 December 2013, 10:09:31
Post by: DarkShot on Sun, 22 December 2013, 13:34:22
How far along are we right now?
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 22 December 2013, 14:26:25
We've gotten 300 MOQ in the past and on things that seemed way less likely like Russian sets and white/purple doubleshot. Maybe it's more of a push at 400 but I believe it can happen. Still waiting on some interested vendors to confirm amounts.
did you have vendors for the 300 moq hits?
Post by: Lu_e on Sun, 22 December 2013, 15:00:06
Loving these. Been looking all over for a full set of black PBT caps. Here's another two sets added onto that total.
How far along are we right now?
The count is at the bottom of the 1st post.
I added a link to my signature hoping to attract some people.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 22 December 2013, 15:12:19
Post by: Stevenator21 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 11:43:59
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 23 December 2013, 11:57:04
Post by: lolkey on Mon, 23 December 2013, 15:12:03
I'm looking into some options with laser legend, side print could be one. I will know more soon.
I'd be in if side printed caps with some nice centered text. Anyways, how do these work if you don't meet the 400 fulfillment?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 23 December 2013, 15:35:19
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 23 December 2013, 15:50:24
If never reach MOQ, nothing get made.
:'(
Must… buy… more…
Post by: colinm478 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 16:13:00
If never reach MOQ, nothing get made.
:'(
Must… buy… more…
I am planning on placing an order. For those saying "well just place it now the moneys not due yet" I can't. I am unsure if I'll have 75 then. (aint that pathetic).
I will be getting either black on black, or the side laser etched if you can get them.
GabeN willing some venders step up on this I really want these keycaps.
Post by: dante on Mon, 23 December 2013, 16:16:44
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 16:37:26
I also hope people notice the change.
You might need to update the title so people will know there are additions to this GB.
Post by: lolkey on Mon, 23 December 2013, 16:42:22
I'm hoping the OP gets updated with new options to get the numbers up.
I also hope people notice the change.
You might need to update the title so people will know there are additions to this GB.
What are the additions?
Post by: Candyflip on Mon, 23 December 2013, 16:45:52
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 23 December 2013, 16:48:31
Will there be a TKL version for cheaper of the blank set? If not anyone who needs an extra num pad keys can PM me
I believe this is very unlikely. We're having trouble hitting the MOQ as it is, and fragmenting the buy in any way would only make it worse.
Post by: Candyflip on Mon, 23 December 2013, 16:55:15
As I thought so but I saw some guys in need of extra keys from alpha/space row for whatever layout they are using and my post was more so if someone wants to share an order :)Will there be a TKL version for cheaper of the blank set? If not anyone who needs an extra num pad keys can PM me
I believe this is very unlikely. We're having trouble hitting the MOQ as it is, and fragmenting the buy in any way would only make it worse.
ps. I hope this one meets MOQ since there are not many thick black pbt these days around, especially in cherry profile.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:35:38
Post by: colinm478 on Mon, 23 December 2013, 21:44:39
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 23 December 2013, 22:02:30
As well, it's still the holidays; definitely more buyers after people come back from holidays/have more money :P
Post by: fourzeropooh on Mon, 23 December 2013, 23:27:17
As far as I am aware, there is currently no such thing as Cherry profile black PBT. I will update the OP (and probably extend close date a bit) once I know all the details and pricing for the potential additions to this buy. Full set will only be 104+ set, no smaller PBT sets will be an option.
Is there Cherry profile white PBT?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 24 December 2013, 09:26:51
Post by: gameaholic on Tue, 24 December 2013, 10:22:35
Yes, did white groupbuy already.
Link to pics please.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 24 December 2013, 11:36:51
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 25 December 2013, 10:17:13
Post by: naokira on Wed, 25 December 2013, 10:57:37
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 25 December 2013, 11:00:12
Post by: naokira on Wed, 25 December 2013, 11:14:52
Post by: kenmai9 on Wed, 25 December 2013, 13:51:55
I do that later maybe, I think it would be better with green. All black isn't very elf like.
Green on black dyesub??? Mmmm
Merry Christmas folks. Let's get this to MOQ
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 25 December 2013, 15:54:27
I don't think purple would be visible on black though.
I need to add at least one of these new choices.
Post by: lolkey on Wed, 25 December 2013, 17:22:13
Previous groupbuys Round 1 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31861.0), Round 2 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.0). Not all options may be pictured, may find them in what got in mail today and what added to keyboard today threads.
Is it still possible to buy those sets? Specifically the Blank - ANSI [MOQ met] - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328.0.
Post by: Stevenator21 on Wed, 25 December 2013, 18:35:36
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 26 December 2013, 09:55:32
White sets from previous are sold out on my end, but perhaps imsto or feng still have some left.
Post by: bueller on Thu, 26 December 2013, 09:59:50
Post by: gameaholic on Thu, 26 December 2013, 22:09:08
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 27 December 2013, 11:31:50
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 27 December 2013, 11:33:37
I love Cyrillic legends.
Post by: chongu on Fri, 27 December 2013, 20:24:38
Post by: YongJK on Sat, 28 December 2013, 05:10:57
Especially the Win key.
I am sold.
Post by: gruener_Salat on Sat, 28 December 2013, 05:49:21
Post by: gameaholic on Sat, 28 December 2013, 16:26:59
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 28 December 2013, 18:08:40
It's very hard to please everyone about what on winkey. Some want win, some blank, some another thing... If most people want particular, that is fine and it can be changed to suit majority but I hope it won't disrupt other order.
Post by: gameaholic on Sat, 28 December 2013, 18:36:39
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 29 December 2013, 00:13:48
This way you only need to hit a 40 MOQ (10 caps on bottom row means make the same one 40 times to get 400 MOQ)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 00:28:37
Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 29 December 2013, 00:30:38
What like a 37 set or something?
But 36 without the \| 1.5x key, so it can hit the MOQ much easily
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 00:51:34
Post by: bazh on Sun, 29 December 2013, 03:57:47
Post by: gruener_Salat on Sun, 29 December 2013, 05:09:52
It's very hard to please everyone about what on winkey...
That's fine, thanks. Just don't like the new window/rectangles.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 29 December 2013, 11:31:28
Post by: t2russo on Sun, 29 December 2013, 14:00:32
If you want a 2tone, I think imsto still have some of the medium grey set left, you could buy one of those too and mix match them how you like it.
Holy crap now I know what to do with my grey alphas now that the mods are matched with a white set.
Post by: catbuster on Sun, 29 December 2013, 15:48:35
Post by: Stevenator21 on Sun, 29 December 2013, 20:15:35
how about adding a lighter-gray alpha base to this set so we could have a black-legend Dolch :v
That would be beautiful.
Post by: Blusey on Sun, 29 December 2013, 21:03:08
Post by: bazh on Mon, 30 December 2013, 03:10:49
Post by: Candyflip on Mon, 30 December 2013, 03:21:19
Can we have payment deadline set to Febuary, Jan15 is so close to Lunar New Year so I affraid can not pay on time :( after LNY would be much easier for me to arrange the moneyYea pushed back deadline and lowered MOQ would be nice.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 30 December 2013, 09:04:51
Post by: bueller on Mon, 30 December 2013, 09:11:51
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 30 December 2013, 11:56:47
Post by: gruener_Salat on Mon, 30 December 2013, 15:07:25
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 30 December 2013, 15:12:51
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 30 December 2013, 15:14:52
You know I think it's nice they can have so much holidays. Not like America when lucky to get week vacation for whole year and half days on a holiday.
Yes I believe it's been proven that given a few more days off makes workers more productive instead of working them to the bone :(
Post by: gruener_Salat on Mon, 30 December 2013, 15:51:06
Post by: geogga on Mon, 30 December 2013, 16:08:41
Post by: cookiesowns on Mon, 30 December 2013, 16:16:31
Post by: bueller on Mon, 30 December 2013, 18:41:36
Sure, I like the obligatory 24 days of vacation here in Germany, some even have 30 days off.
Yep we've got 20 days paid vacation + 10 paid sick days here in Aus.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 30 December 2013, 20:14:31
This still available for ordering? Estimated shipping date?
Yes you can place an order. ETA is not set currently. Need to make the MOQ to have them made, and production time can vary.
Post by: Galactic on Mon, 30 December 2013, 20:48:10
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 30 December 2013, 20:50:16
Post by: 1pq on Tue, 31 December 2013, 01:07:48
Post by: pr1me on Tue, 31 December 2013, 04:12:31
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 31 December 2013, 04:45:15
Post by: Galactic on Tue, 31 December 2013, 09:14:41
Post by: geogga on Tue, 31 December 2013, 12:55:26
Since the OG was Jan 15, I'm going to guess a couple more weeks later? Early- mid February?
Hey guys, slightly noob question: I heard the PBT keycap surfaces (smooth, a bit rough, textured etc) can range from the different manufacteurs. How is this compared to sets like Ducky, IMSTO's sets+other common PBT?
sets? or all they all slightly rough/textured?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 31 December 2013, 13:00:15
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 31 December 2013, 17:14:59
Yeh depend on how much longer it is until I get price from GMK on ABS extras. Probably extra 3-4 week run time. Ship price for one set international is around $12-14.
Great, gives us some time to save up for these ;D . GMK is always worth the money, hope 400 will be reached soon.
Post by: bazh on Tue, 31 December 2013, 21:40:08
Well he said that the deadline will be extended, but he still doesn't know.
Since the OG was Jan 15, I'm going to guess a couple more weeks later? Early- mid February?
Hey guys, slightly noob question: I heard the PBT keycap surfaces (smooth, a bit rough, textured etc) can range from the different manufacteurs. How is this compared to sets like Ducky, IMSTO's sets+other common PBT?
sets? or all they all slightly rough/textured?
this GB will be made by imsto I believe ;D
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 31 December 2013, 23:12:01
imsto PBT are not too rough, but not quite as velvety as BSP or Cherry (if you disregard lasering).
Post by: evolveS on Wed, 01 January 2014, 13:44:08
Any chance of a stepped caps lock in this gb? I looked through the thread but couldn't really find an answer.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 01 January 2014, 14:41:29
Post by: evolveS on Wed, 01 January 2014, 18:20:25
Post by: Novus on Wed, 01 January 2014, 18:57:43
I have a question, does it come in black?
Why yes, it does!
SWEEEET
In for a set of blank keycaps for my future boards down the line!
Possibly considering ordering a second set as well but I'll update my order once I'm sure I want to commit to 2 sets.
Happy new years!
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 01 January 2014, 19:06:22
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 01 January 2014, 19:07:00
Post by: -devious- on Wed, 01 January 2014, 22:22:44
Just ordered a Poker II (my first mechanical keyboard) and would love to get these all black keys! I really like the look of blank keys, but I think it will take a lot of time to get used to the secondary functions of the poker II before I go blanks..
Either, way, I'm placing an order just so I have these for the future! Thanks for setting this up.
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 02 January 2014, 12:54:27
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 02 January 2014, 12:56:24
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 02 January 2014, 13:01:31
Hey Ivan, I might be down for one but I would need an extra 2.25x Shift and a 1x Windows key. Any idea where I might find a matching version of those? Do you or Imsto have these?
For FC660M right? If there is enough user of this board I can see about adding to extras add on pack.
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 02 January 2014, 14:33:00
Exactly. That would be nice and worth a small premium to me.Hey Ivan, I might be down for one but I would need an extra 2.25x Shift and a 1x Windows key. Any idea where I might find a matching version of those? Do you or Imsto have these?
For FC660M right? If there is enough user of this board I can see about adding to extras add on pack.
Post by: geogga on Thu, 02 January 2014, 15:38:16
PBTs are from imsto, there will also be ABS add on from GMK for ISO, winkeyless, 1.75 shift, and windowed lock keys to go along with it.
imsto PBT are not too rough, but not quite as velvety as BSP or Cherry (if you disregard lasering).
Could I sand them with a high grit if I wanted? Probably wouldn't but just wondering.
small favor but could you check to make sure I placed an order of a blank set?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 02 January 2014, 17:02:57
Perhaps I should say more that these imsto key texture is fine, but is not ultrafine like original Cherry/BSP. Certainly not abrasive like the cheap Keycool/KBC/Ducky OEM thin or SP PBT.
Post by: Nubbles on Thu, 02 January 2014, 19:41:23
I know it's a long shot, but this is a beautiful keyset.
Post by: MiR4i on Thu, 02 January 2014, 19:47:52
Post by: tbc on Thu, 02 January 2014, 20:08:45
Post by: MiR4i on Thu, 02 January 2014, 22:38:41
not as dark and the keycaps will be slightly shorter (like 1mm or 2mm) on some rows.WoW... Not as dark? "Pitch Black" might not be the correct term to describe these then. ;D I'll most likely end up jumping in on these next week though because it seems that the entire internet is out of stock of blank black PBT ANSI key caps. :rolleyes:
Post by: tbc on Thu, 02 January 2014, 23:03:39
It can't really be black black, because then only blank, engraved, lasered is possible. It's like rich black vs. process black... it's still black.Show Image(http://www.netsourceinc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blacks.jpg)
I could be wrong because i don't have that board or those caps, but those caps match that case and i've never seen a black case that I wouldn't call black. the realforce caps (that is the black/charcoal color we are matching) are noticably lighter than any black case I've seen
i'm not sure if its more 'out of stock' or more 'never existed'
Post by: MiR4i on Thu, 02 January 2014, 23:07:13
Ahhh, I was under the impression that reply was about the text for black on black since he also mentioned engraving. I guess if it's dark, dark gray it's probably not going to be what I'm looking for then. Apologies for wasting anyone's time, but thanks for taking the time to do these group buys!It can't really be black black, because then only blank, engraved, lasered is possible. It's like rich black vs. process black... it's still black.Show Image(http://www.netsourceinc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blacks.jpg)
Post by: Galactic on Fri, 03 January 2014, 08:04:33
Post by: atlas3686 on Fri, 03 January 2014, 09:37:49
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 03 January 2014, 10:47:27
Post by: geogga on Fri, 03 January 2014, 22:00:52
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Fri, 03 January 2014, 23:15:27
Hey Ivan, I might be down for one but I would need an extra 2.25x Shift and a 1x Windows key. Any idea where I might find a matching version of those? Do you or Imsto have these?
For FC660M right? If there is enough user of this board I can see about adding to extras add on pack.
I already put in for a full 105+4 set, but if you did this for the FC660M, I would order an additional full set.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 04 January 2014, 16:06:33
6x windowed top row key
windowed stepped and fulltouch caps lock
deepdish 'scoops' home keys
ISO enter
1.25 shift
1.75 shift
extra 2.25 shift for FC660M
4x 1.5 bottom row
2x extra bottom row 1x1
7x spacebar
Is this good? Or is there anything else that you all feel we need? Looking to finalize the add on pack contents so can get final price from GMK for this so can make it orderable.
Post by: Michael on Sat, 04 January 2014, 16:14:35
Is this going to be a mix of pbt and abs? and can you state what is what in the OP?
Post by: tbc on Sat, 04 January 2014, 16:20:14
this addon pack is GMK ABS
Post by: raphdu57 on Sat, 04 January 2014, 16:26:22
So add on pack contents:Would love to see 3x extra bottom row 1x1 in total,
6x windowed top row key
windowed stepped and fulltouch caps lock
deepdish 'scoops' home keys
ISO enter
1.25 shift
1.75 shift
extra 2.25 shift for FC660M
4x 1.5 bottom row
2x extra bottom row 1x1
7x spacebar
Is this good? Or is there anything else that you all feel we need? Looking to finalize the add on pack contents so can get final price from GMK for this so can make it orderable.
This way you could have a hhkb/-like layout with the 1.75 r-shift.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 04 January 2014, 16:54:43
There will be an optional add on for color matching BLANK ABS from GMK to make the ANSI 104 PBT set more adaptable for other keyboards. Most of the keys in the add on pack will be things that are simply not available from the PBT keycap factory. When the ABS add on becomes available I will of course try to make that as clear as possible.
Post by: DarkShot on Sun, 05 January 2014, 11:20:43
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 05 January 2014, 12:57:43
Post by: atlas3686 on Mon, 06 January 2014, 00:59:21
So add on pack contents:
6x windowed top row key
windowed stepped and fulltouch caps lock
deepdish 'scoops' home keys
ISO enter
1.25 shift
1.75 shift
extra 2.25 shift for FC660M
4x 1.5 bottom row
2x extra bottom row 1x1
7x spacebar
Is this good? Or is there anything else that you all feel we need? Looking to finalize the add on pack contents so can get final price from GMK for this so can make it orderable.
Any chance on a switch control/caps-lock option?
Post by: wilflare on Mon, 06 January 2014, 11:32:37
finally something to replace to fading keycaps on my Filco MJT1 Brown Switch 104Key
so just to confirm this is imsto dyesub Thick PBT dyesub right?
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 06 January 2014, 11:33:56
so just to confirm this is imsto dyesub Thick PBT dyesub right?
Yes. Ivan is also working on an extension kit that will be GMK ABS.
Post by: wilflare on Mon, 06 January 2014, 11:38:10
so just to confirm this is imsto dyesub Thick PBT dyesub right?
Yes. Ivan is also working on an extension kit that will be GMK ABS.
if only there's a Thick PBT Doubleshot Black on Black!
ORDERED :D can't wait for these to come!
Post by: j0hnny on Mon, 06 January 2014, 16:08:11
Post by: n7 on Mon, 06 January 2014, 18:40:26
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 06 January 2014, 19:15:47
The sets are fairly cheap as it is, so extra caps don't matter; but rather whether or not you'll even use the caps if they're both extremely similar. I wouldn't, unless it was a backup or a gift for someone.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 06 January 2014, 19:20:13
Post by: riotonthebay on Mon, 06 January 2014, 19:23:59
Post by: noons on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:04:18
Post by: wilflare on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:22:58
maybe i should order another blank to go along..
Post by: Michael on Mon, 06 January 2014, 20:24:39
We have reached the 50% mark to MOQ!
Have you hit up OTD/KBD/DT?
Post by: noons on Mon, 06 January 2014, 21:48:35
Post by: Rhinofeed on Mon, 06 January 2014, 21:57:14
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:01:01
Actually I do have a question.. Seeing how the spacebar is not compatible with leopold, anyone have any idea how it would look with the oem spacebar? I have thin pbt key caps now that I like, but these thick cherry profiles do sound great. I guess I am just concerned of the height that my spacebar would be vs these cherry height keys.I am using similar keys from GMK with the original spacebar from my FC660M. It matches up pretty well, maybe even too good. the space between the spacebar and the Alt is very narrow as the walls are pretty steep.
It might differ with yours though. And as for aesthetics, depends...
Post by: acidtrip69 on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:27:36
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 07 January 2014, 17:29:41
co can i still get in on a dark side order ? It looks so sweet. are they going to be thick ptb ?
Yes, you can. And yes, they will be.
Post by: bladegesnow on Tue, 07 January 2014, 18:31:10
Make this happen guys!
Post by: wilflare on Tue, 07 January 2014, 21:01:13
gonna match this with the O-Ring mod on my Filco MJT1 Brown
Post by: damorgue on Wed, 08 January 2014, 00:32:44
So add on pack contents:
6x windowed top row key
windowed stepped and fulltouch caps lock
deepdish 'scoops' home keys
ISO enter
1.25 shift
1.75 shift
extra 2.25 shift for FC660M
4x 1.5 bottom row
2x extra bottom row 1x1
7x spacebar
Is this good? Or is there anything else that you all feel we need? Looking to finalize the add on pack contents so can get final price from GMK for this so can make it orderable.
Exactly... it's ANSI 104 PBT set and that is currently all that is available here.
There will be an optional add on for color matching BLANK ABS from GMK to make the ANSI 104 PBT set more adaptable for other keyboards. Most of the keys in the add on pack will be things that are simply not available from the PBT keycap factory. When the ABS add on becomes available I will of course try to make that as clear as possible.
So all the keys in the addon-pack will be in ABS? Do they have any colour/texture samples to compare the ABS and PBT?
Post by: acidtrip69 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 01:41:11
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 January 2014, 01:51:57
i have a question who is making there keys ? also i think a black key set with silver dye subed lettering would look badass ^_^
^you win CES2014
Post by: asura on Wed, 08 January 2014, 04:58:16
i have a question who is making there keys ? also i think a black key set with silver dye subed lettering would look badass ^_^
The main set will be from a factory in China(?) via Imsto and the add-ons from GMK in Germany as the Chinese(?) manufacturer doesn't have the moulds for all the keys desired.
And... impossible - dye sublimation only works with a darker colour than the keycap material. You could etch and in-fill, but "silver" plastics generally don't look like silver, just a sort of pale grey. A "silver" cold enamel (that's an epoxy polymer based paint) would probably give you the best silver colour, they're usually chromium particles suspended in a pale grey.
Post by: acidtrip69 on Wed, 08 January 2014, 14:29:11
Thanks for the info. ^_^ but i do think that key set would look nice like thati have a question who is making there keys ? also i think a black key set with silver dye subed lettering would look badass ^_^
The main set will be from a factory in China(?) via Imsto and the add-ons from GMK in Germany as the Chinese(?) manufacturer doesn't have the moulds for all the keys desired.
And... impossible - dye sublimation only works with a darker colour than the keycap material. You could etch and in-fill, but "silver" plastics generally don't look like silver, just a sort of pale grey. A "silver" cold enamel (that's an epoxy polymer based paint) would probably give you the best silver colour, they're usually chromium particles suspended in a pale grey.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 January 2014, 15:04:11
So, now just waiting on quote for the ISO/1.5/etc add on pack... and EDox add on from GMK. I sent email for it again today so hopefully I will hear something back soon.
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Wed, 08 January 2014, 23:25:35
Due to add on pack coming from different source, and made from different plastic than the full base set... I was planning on wait to receive the PBT, then match as best as possible that with GMK. It would make a small delay, but I think it would ensure the best result with the smallest possible color variance instead of going on color blindly.
So, now just waiting on quote for the ISO/1.5/etc add on pack... and EDox add on from GMK. I sent email for it again today so hopefully I will hear something back soon.
That's awesome, thank you so much for all the work you are putting in.
Post by: phoenixl1ght on Thu, 09 January 2014, 00:33:48
Post by: yakitysax on Thu, 09 January 2014, 03:08:37
Due to add on pack coming from different source, and made from different plastic than the full base set... I was planning on wait to receive the PBT, then match as best as possible that with GMK. It would make a small delay, but I think it would ensure the best result with the smallest possible color variance instead of going on color blindly.I can't wait, thanks for putting together the group buy.
So, now just waiting on quote for the ISO/1.5/etc add on pack... and EDox add on from GMK. I sent email for it again today so hopefully I will hear something back soon.
Post by: geogga on Thu, 09 January 2014, 10:54:05
Now we gotta try to get 300...if so may then will the factory choose to make the caps if deemed worthy
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 09 January 2014, 11:04:12
Are they all cherry profile? I wanted OEM profile for the black blanks. I like the height :)
Yes, all of the keys from this group buy will be Cherry profile.
Post by: ynrozturk on Thu, 09 January 2014, 11:09:01
Post by: strict on Thu, 09 January 2014, 11:42:37
Due to add on pack coming from different source, and made from different plastic than the full base set... I was planning on wait to receive the PBT, then match as best as possible that with GMK. It would make a small delay, but I think it would ensure the best result with the smallest possible color variance instead of going on color blindly.
So, now just waiting on quote for the ISO/1.5/etc add on pack... and EDox add on from GMK. I sent email for it again today so hopefully I will hear something back soon.
I want to echo everyones else statement and just say that you are a hero for organizing this. Im sure it is nothing if not tedious and frustrating most of the time.
Regarding the delay you mentioned, Would this delay be for all participants of the group buy or only the people who purchase the add-on pack?
Post by: epzy on Thu, 09 January 2014, 12:08:14
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 09 January 2014, 12:44:03
Those that order only PBT 104 set would not be affected by GMK add on delay.
Today I also find out, there is chance we can make this with Plum factory instead. Plum factory also have 1.5, 1.75 sizes and windowed keycap in PBT. Just waiting to find out how their pricing and MOQ is like versus current.
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 09 January 2014, 14:46:12
All my groupbuy is Cherry profile, the only profile that matters!
Those that order only PBT 104 set would not be affected by GMK add on delay.
Today I also find out, there is chance we can make this with Plum factory instead. Plum factory also have 1.5, 1.75 sizes and windowed keycap in PBT. Just waiting to find out how their pricing and MOQ is like versus current.
Interesting!
Do we know anything about the quality of their keycaps (texture, thickness, etc.)?
Post by: phillyd on Thu, 09 January 2014, 15:06:51
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 09 January 2014, 15:26:33
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 09 January 2014, 15:26:46
Plum factory make Cherry profile keys that is on Plum 96, Neo Zelia, Choc mini... I haven't had any of those, but from what I have seen they appear to be quite similar.
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 09 January 2014, 15:27:30
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 09 January 2014, 15:34:47
Yes groupbuy is open for order, please use form link in the first post.
Plum factory make Cherry profile keys that is on Plum 96, Neo Zelia, Choc mini... I haven't had any of those, but from what I have seen they appear to be quite similar.
The PBT Caps on my Noppoo Choc Mini 2013 are actually pretty nice and thick. I'd be very happy with these in black :)
Post by: phillyd on Thu, 09 January 2014, 16:43:24
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 09 January 2014, 16:57:09
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 09 January 2014, 19:34:45
Post by: Sai on Thu, 09 January 2014, 19:38:29
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 09 January 2014, 19:49:21
Post by: Sai on Thu, 09 January 2014, 20:08:05
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 09 January 2014, 20:34:53
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Thu, 09 January 2014, 23:19:48
Post by: tbc on Fri, 10 January 2014, 02:18:16
you would want to make a completely new order ordering 2 sets
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Fri, 10 January 2014, 09:33:12
you only have one active order. your second order overwrote the first one unless you used different email etc.
you would want to make a completely new order ordering 2 sets
Do you have access to the spreadsheet or is this just an educated guess given past knowledge?
Post by: strict on Fri, 10 January 2014, 09:50:11
you only have one active order. your second order overwrote the first one unless you used different email etc.
you would want to make a completely new order ordering 2 sets
Do you have access to the spreadsheet or is this just an educated guess given past knowledge?
Ivan explained earlier in the thread that new orders overwrite old orders. If you placed Order A for one blank set and then later placed Order B for a printed set, the only active order for your name is Order B for the printed set.
Post by: Jocelyn on Fri, 10 January 2014, 09:51:46
you only have one active order. your second order overwrote the first one unless you used different email etc.
you would want to make a completely new order ordering 2 sets
Do you have access to the spreadsheet or is this just an educated guess given past knowledge?
It's more of a common knowledge thing about how it's worked in the past. Not an educated guess :)
Post by: MsYutai on Fri, 10 January 2014, 11:24:05
I am definitely interested in these keys, they are going to look awesome combined with the black/beige thick PBT set I already have <3
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Fri, 10 January 2014, 12:29:11
you only have one active order. your second order overwrote the first one unless you used different email etc.
you would want to make a completely new order ordering 2 sets
Do you have access to the spreadsheet or is this just an educated guess given past knowledge?
Ivan explained earlier in the thread that new orders overwrite old orders. If you placed Order A for one blank set and then later placed Order B for a printed set, the only active order for your name is Order B for the printed set.
you only have one active order. your second order overwrote the first one unless you used different email etc.
you would want to make a completely new order ordering 2 sets
Do you have access to the spreadsheet or is this just an educated guess given past knowledge?
It's more of a common knowledge thing about how it's worked in the past. Not an educated guess :)
Awesome, thanks for letting me know. So, I placed a 3rd order, this time including both sets. Thanks guys! :cool:
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 10 January 2014, 13:29:30
I ordered but haven't gotten an invoice yet!
I am definitely interested in these keys, they are going to look awesome combined with the black/beige thick PBT set I already have <3
Nobody was invoiced yet. It's not even sure this GB succeeds, so just be patient and hope that many more people join so we can reach MOQ :)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 10 January 2014, 13:56:01
Post by: Blusey on Fri, 10 January 2014, 16:23:28
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 10 January 2014, 16:35:18
Post by: nickatnite on Fri, 10 January 2014, 23:53:57
Post by: noons on Mon, 13 January 2014, 18:45:30
Post by: ynrozturk on Mon, 13 January 2014, 19:11:01
IT KILLLS me not to get on this set as I have been wanting to try both thick pbt and cherry profile, but no leopold support means a non matching spacebar for me which kills it for me. Leopold why have you forsaken me! :p
Buy a set anyway, keep it for future boards.
Post by: itsaferbie on Mon, 13 January 2014, 21:01:15
Post by: wilflare on Mon, 13 January 2014, 21:05:18
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 13 January 2014, 21:13:59
really hope this works out man. i would be sorely disappointed if it doesn't :/
Agreed, I'm going to have to finally buy something Topre if this doesn't work out lol
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 14 January 2014, 08:39:00
Post by: bueller on Tue, 14 January 2014, 08:47:40
IT KILLLS me not to get on this set as I have been wanting to try both thick pbt and cherry profile, but no leopold support means a non matching spacebar for me which kills it for me. Leopold why have you forsaken me! :p
Buy a set anyway, keep it for future boards.
Better yet - sell the Leopold and buy something that's not a pain to get sets for!
Post by: strict on Tue, 14 January 2014, 09:22:17
IT KILLLS me not to get on this set as I have been wanting to try both thick pbt and cherry profile, but no leopold support means a non matching spacebar for me which kills it for me. Leopold why have you forsaken me! :p
Buy a set anyway, keep it for future boards.
Better yet - sell the Leopold and buy something that's not a pain to get sets for!
When I was deciding on my first mech purchase, I was truly torn between the Filco and the Leopold. After reading about the goofy keycaps on the Leopold, it cemented my decision to get the Filco and I couldn't be happier. I think I would have to actively work at finding a set of caps that DONT fit the Filco.
Post by: Candyflip on Tue, 14 January 2014, 09:40:30
This is always what I say to people when between Filco or Leopold, sooner or later YOU WILL want to change some caps.IT KILLLS me not to get on this set as I have been wanting to try both thick pbt and cherry profile, but no leopold support means a non matching spacebar for me which kills it for me. Leopold why have you forsaken me! :p
Buy a set anyway, keep it for future boards.
Better yet - sell the Leopold and buy something that's not a pain to get sets for!
When I was deciding on my first mech purchase, I was truly torn between the Filco and the Leopold. After reading about the goofy keycaps on the Leopold, it cemented my decision to get the Filco and I couldn't be happier. I think I would have to actively work at finding a set of caps that DONT fit the Filco.
Post by: bueller on Tue, 14 January 2014, 10:00:53
This is always what I say to people when between Filco or Leopold, sooner or later YOU WILL want to change some caps.IT KILLLS me not to get on this set as I have been wanting to try both thick pbt and cherry profile, but no leopold support means a non matching spacebar for me which kills it for me. Leopold why have you forsaken me! :p
Buy a set anyway, keep it for future boards.
Better yet - sell the Leopold and buy something that's not a pain to get sets for!
When I was deciding on my first mech purchase, I was truly torn between the Filco and the Leopold. After reading about the goofy keycaps on the Leopold, it cemented my decision to get the Filco and I couldn't be happier. I think I would have to actively work at finding a set of caps that DONT fit the Filco.
It's why I sold my Quickfire TK, I could get along with the layout but the space-bar sizing was a dealbreaker.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 14 January 2014, 13:32:08
Post by: Candyflip on Tue, 14 January 2014, 13:35:49
Post by: Dreamre on Tue, 14 January 2014, 19:24:55
Hopefully this order goes through :D.
Post by: 1pq on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:18:09
Will you extend the order period or this is a dead end GB? :(
^^ I think (hope) he just hasn't updated the deadline in the OP yet. Please let us know, Ivan.
Post by: geogga on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:31:33
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 14 January 2014, 22:49:06
At this rate, maybe March we'll hit moq; not even including possible vendors (:
Gogogo
Post by: Candyflip on Wed, 15 January 2014, 06:26:53
Believe, guys!Yes statistically you are right but consider March is not right around the corner, there are people who ordered in November and may not like to still be part of the GB in March...
At this rate, maybe March we'll hit moq; not even including possible vendors (:
Gogogo
Post by: Ound on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:30:46
Also first post. :thumb:
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 15 January 2014, 08:32:18
Recently got Filco MJ2 Ninja Tenkeyless ( with MX Brown ) and I placed an order for a blank set ( maybe I should get 2... ? ), I am excited! I really do hope this gets through.
Also first post. :thumb:
Welcome to Geekhack!
You'll fit right in if you make your first purchase even before your first post! That's the right attitude here :p
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 15 January 2014, 13:36:35
Post by: bueller on Wed, 15 January 2014, 13:49:25
Don't worry it's still going. I mentioned before that I am looking into some other source options for a basically identical product. While I am still waiting on all the final details Plum may let us have a lower MOQ and be cheaper. Additionally, they offer 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, windowed keys... all in PBT. I'm not sure about ISO enter or 7x spacebar yet... so at any rate we can get more identical PBT keys from a single source instead of having to match with ABS.
Sounds great, as a 1.75 shift user it would be awesome to have PBT!
Post by: Linkbane on Wed, 15 January 2014, 13:50:32
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 15 January 2014, 15:26:45
Post by: nickatnite on Wed, 15 January 2014, 15:57:02
Post by: Linkbane on Wed, 15 January 2014, 16:10:39
I never added that... there were so few order for it last time I offered dvorak and I have not noticed more than couple request for it.
Ah, alright. Thanks, Ivan.
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 15 January 2014, 16:41:21
Don't worry it's still going. I mentioned before that I am looking into some other source options for a basically identical product. While I am still waiting on all the final details Plum may let us have a lower MOQ and be cheaper. Additionally, they offer 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, windowed keys... all in PBT. I'm not sure about ISO enter or 7x spacebar yet... so at any rate we can get more identical PBT keys from a single source instead of having to match with ABS.
Ahh, very good to know. I canceled my order, but if we're going to get PBT ISO pieces...I may just have to opt back in.
These look great--I'd hate to see this GB go under. 400 sets is a lot, though...
Post by: epzy on Wed, 15 January 2014, 16:48:49
Don't worry it's still going. I mentioned before that I am looking into some other source options for a basically identical product. While I am still waiting on all the final details Plum may let us have a lower MOQ and be cheaper. Additionally, they offer 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, windowed keys... all in PBT. I'm not sure about ISO enter or 7x spacebar yet... so at any rate we can get more identical PBT keys from a single source instead of having to match with ABS.
Ahh, very good to know. I canceled my order, but if we're going to get PBT ISO pieces...I may just have to opt back in.
These look great--I'd hate to see this GB go under. 400 sets is a lot, though...
Don't you prefer ANSI? :p
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 15 January 2014, 16:51:17
Don't worry it's still going. I mentioned before that I am looking into some other source options for a basically identical product. While I am still waiting on all the final details Plum may let us have a lower MOQ and be cheaper. Additionally, they offer 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, windowed keys... all in PBT. I'm not sure about ISO enter or 7x spacebar yet... so at any rate we can get more identical PBT keys from a single source instead of having to match with ABS.
Ahh, very good to know. I canceled my order, but if we're going to get PBT ISO pieces...I may just have to opt back in.
These look great--I'd hate to see this GB go under. 400 sets is a lot, though...
Don't you prefer ANSI? :p
I do, honestly, but I was low on cash, and an ISO board was available and inexpensive. It feels amazing, and the shift/enter placement doesn't really bother me, so I'd really love some good caps for it.
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 15 January 2014, 19:25:23
Don't worry it's still going. I mentioned before that I am looking into some other source options for a basically identical product. While I am still waiting on all the final details Plum may let us have a lower MOQ and be cheaper. Additionally, they offer 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, windowed keys... all in PBT. I'm not sure about ISO enter or 7x spacebar yet... so at any rate we can get more identical PBT keys from a single source instead of having to match with ABS.
This sounds promising.
I was concerned about this GB going on too long. If it goes long enough, some people who joined in the beginning will forget they joined this then neglect paying the invoice because they moved on to another GB.
I'm still concerned that if we meet 300 a month or so from now, the first 50ish people will change their mind because of the time that passed. Know what i mean.
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 15 January 2014, 21:18:05
Don't worry it's still going. I mentioned before that I am looking into some other source options for a basically identical product. While I am still waiting on all the final details Plum may let us have a lower MOQ and be cheaper. Additionally, they offer 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, windowed keys... all in PBT. I'm not sure about ISO enter or 7x spacebar yet... so at any rate we can get more identical PBT keys from a single source instead of having to match with ABS.
This sounds promising.
I was concerned about this GB going on too long. If it goes long enough, some people who joined in the beginning will forget they joined this then neglect paying the invoice because they moved on to another GB.
I'm still concerned that if we meet 300 a month or so from now, the first 50ish people will change their mind because of the time that passed. Know what i mean.
That's definitely a legitimate concern, but I doubt that many would back out--I'd estimate five or ten. Fifty people is a lot. Then again, I'm not that experienced with GBs, so you may know better than I do.
Post by: wilflare on Wed, 15 January 2014, 22:24:24
Post by: geogga on Wed, 15 January 2014, 22:34:52
Believe, guys!Yes statistically you are right but consider March is not right around the corner, there are people who ordered in November and may not like to still be part of the GB in March...
At this rate, maybe March we'll hit moq; not even including possible vendors (:
Gogogo
Ehh seeing how hard it is to get PBT blank sets in many countries/online, a lot of people do not want to miss out on this.
Plum seems like a better choice, I hope you and they make a nice deal!
Post by: Galactic on Thu, 16 January 2014, 05:25:33
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 16 January 2014, 10:19:20
Certainly drop outs is a concern when a buy runs for very long... but there is no real alternative to this available elsewhere so it's a bit different situation than usual.
Post by: epzy on Thu, 16 January 2014, 10:26:20
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 16 January 2014, 10:37:47
Oooo, side-printed would be awesome.
Going to make decision making very tough... which to choose, which to choose...
Really hoping for this! These keys would go well with so many boards and other keys.
For someone who's not familiar with "Plum", how does the quality of the keys change if going through them? Are they a manufacturer or other intermediary?
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 16 January 2014, 10:44:40
I'm working to get sideprinting as an option.
Certainly drop outs is a concern when a buy runs for very long... but there is no real alternative to this available elsewhere so it's a bit different situation than usual.
I have never seen a side-printed set in Cherry Profile before. Does such a thing even exist?
Post by: ynrozturk on Thu, 16 January 2014, 10:45:00
Post by: strict on Thu, 16 January 2014, 10:47:00
Post by: phoenix1234 on Thu, 16 January 2014, 10:47:51
I'm working to get sideprinting as an option.
Certainly drop outs is a concern when a buy runs for very long... but there is no real alternative to this available elsewhere so it's a bit different situation than usual.
I have never seen a side-printed set in Cherry Profile before. Does such a thing even exist?
Yes, it does, I had one set Imsto PBT Cherry Profile, side printed
(http://i.imgur.com/x3XIggh.jpg)
Post by: Candyflip on Thu, 16 January 2014, 10:48:03
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 16 January 2014, 11:01:28
Post by: phoenix1234 on Thu, 16 January 2014, 11:10:04
Only sideprint laser set exist in Cherry profile before... not have been done with dyesubs yet. It wasn't offered before because dyesub factory had some QC issue with side deform under the high heat... but I think they have made refinement so may be willing to do it now.It's really a good news, beyond my expectation.
I just thought when you mention side printing, it is just laser-etched as what imsto did, but now it can be even dyesub.
Really great news for me.
Thank you for updating . :thumb:
Post by: MsYutai on Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:08:00
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?
I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:37:18
Post by: Candyflip on Thu, 16 January 2014, 14:42:40
I am not sure where but I heard that they feel scratchy, maybe it is just wrong I don't know either way I ordered a set :))I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?
I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 16 January 2014, 17:53:17
Post by: KaLam1ty on Thu, 16 January 2014, 18:57:50
Sure, they look a lot nicer, but do any of you guys find that they have a better typing experience?
Also, since they are lower in profile, will O-rings not work with them? Do the stems sink in lower in the switches? Or are they as long as OEM?
Lastly, will there be any Modifier-Only sets? I would like to get the letter keyset, but most of my modifier layouts have been changed (i.e. CapsLock -> Backspace)
and would like to keep my keyboard consistent with my own typing experience by keeping them blank.
I'm tempted to pick up a set, but I want to know a little more about the set before I commit.
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 16 January 2014, 19:04:51
The cross supports under the cherry cap are generally the same distance to the top of the mx housing as oem.
I don't think the stem lengths are too different. Their might be a marginal difference.
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 17 January 2014, 00:43:59
I have yet to experience Cherry profile and everyone seems to say they're better than OEM.
Sure, they look a lot nicer, but do any of you guys find that they have a better typing experience?
Also, since they are lower in profile, will O-rings not work with them? Do the stems sink in lower in the switches? Or are they as long as OEM?
Lastly, will there be any Modifier-Only sets? I would like to get the letter keyset, but most of my modifier layouts have been changed (i.e. CapsLock -> Backspace)
and would like to keep my keyboard consistent with my own typing experience by keeping them blank.
I'm tempted to pick up a set, but I want to know a little more about the set before I commit.
1. The typing experiene is way better in my opinion, but that is personal preference of course. I never had problems with OEM height until I tried Cherry profile. Now it feels really awkward to type on higher keys.
2. Certain O-Rings will work. IMSTO offers smaller O-Rings for Cherry profile and bigger O-Rings for OEM profile.
3. There won't be any Modifier sets. It's only the full set or nothing. Of course you can order a full set and sell the Alphas in the classifieds later.
Post by: atlas3686 on Fri, 17 January 2014, 01:35:58
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 17 January 2014, 14:06:57
Post by: carlo on Sat, 18 January 2014, 09:02:14
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sat, 18 January 2014, 11:05:28
I'd buy 3 sets :3
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sat, 18 January 2014, 11:11:41
People were always asking em for thick PBT caps, and if one or two join we would probably hit the MOQ!
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sat, 18 January 2014, 11:16:59
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?
I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?
Some people reported the wire of the stabs would grind on the inside of the cap when you press the key.
Perhaps the combo of thick PBT caps in Cherry profile + new (LED friendly) style Costar stabs...
Post by: strict on Sat, 18 January 2014, 13:52:31
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?
I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?
Some people reported the wire of the stabs would grind on the inside of the cap when you press the key.
Perhaps the combo of thick PBT caps in Cherry profile + new (LED friendly) style Costar stabs...
From what I've read the grinding/hanging issue is pretty hit or miss and only affects costar stabs. Some people don't have any issues and others claim the afflicted keys border on unusable. The fix is usually to lightly sand down the inside wall of the keycap that rubs on the stabilizer.
This post has some good info and even some pictures to illustrate this - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26454#msg497261 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26454#msg497261)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 18 January 2014, 13:56:12
Post by: mooswa on Sat, 18 January 2014, 16:02:40
The only way you can get some alternate layout is if you want to meet the minimum 20set tier. If you can do that I will do the set up to print any layout in any font you would like.
Are you saying that for example if out of the folks already in on the black on black set, 20 would ask you to have Control instead of Caps Lock you would add this as an option? Sorry if am being dense.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 18 January 2014, 17:52:07
However if a group of people want to pool together to have something specific made I won't stop you of course.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 18 January 2014, 18:12:35
I might change my order from blanks to side printed.
I red somewhere people reporting problems with thick PBT with Costar stabilizers, if this is the case how can we prevent/fix it?
I have the Imsto Thick PBT caps on my Costar stabilizers now but not having any problems... What problems are you talking about?
Some people reported the wire of the stabs would grind on the inside of the cap when you press the key.
Perhaps the combo of thick PBT caps in Cherry profile + new (LED friendly) style Costar stabs...
From what I've read the grinding/hanging issue is pretty hit or miss and only affects costar stabs. Some people don't have any issues and others claim the afflicted keys border on unusable. The fix is usually to lightly sand down the inside wall of the keycap that rubs on the stabilizer.
This post has some good info and even some pictures to illustrate this - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26454#msg497261 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=26454#msg497261)
I had a set of Imsto thick PBT that would get stuck when I bottomed out the enter and shift keys. But after about 2 days of good use they were broken in and stopped sticking.
Post by: reziak on Sat, 18 January 2014, 22:20:34
Post by: WinterIsle on Sun, 19 January 2014, 01:22:18
Is there a deadline for this buy? Or does it just go when the MOQ is met? Sorry if this answered somewhere already.No deadline yet, this gb only need to met the MOQ.
Post by: reziak on Mon, 20 January 2014, 11:25:45
Is there a deadline for this buy? Or does it just go when the MOQ is met? Sorry if this answered somewhere already.No deadline yet, this gb only need to met the MOQ.
Cool, thanks :)
Post by: geogga on Mon, 20 January 2014, 20:27:32
Post by: 1pq on Mon, 20 January 2014, 21:24:14
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 21 January 2014, 12:29:18
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 21 January 2014, 12:43:28
Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.
Is the issue with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts an issue at Plum factory? Or at imsto's factory? Or are we still working with imsto to go through plum? I am confuse.
Post by: bueller on Tue, 21 January 2014, 12:49:50
Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.
Is the issue with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts an issue at Plum factory? Or at imsto's factory? Or are we still working with imsto to go through plum? I am confuse.
I don't think Plum offers those sizes, if Imsto can't offer them then we're SOL. GMK blanks aren't the worst thing in the world though!
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 21 January 2014, 13:00:25
Post by: strict on Tue, 21 January 2014, 13:09:47
Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.
Forgive my ignorance, but can you give us some more info about the issue with the 1.5 and 1.75 keys? From what I understand that means we would have three GMK ABS keys and the rest PBT? Personally I would much rather have a higher MOQ if it meant we would have a full PBT set rather than a mixed PBT/ABS set. I use tab and backslash non-stop and for those keys to be ABS would be very close to being a deal-breaker for me.
Edit - Is this graphic correct for which keys would be ABS? http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/keycap_layout.jpg (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/keycap_layout.jpg)
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 21 January 2014, 13:39:46
Post by: bueller on Tue, 21 January 2014, 13:42:43
Some good news, some bad news... in regard to PLUM their MOQ is 100 sets lower which is the good news. The bad news is imsto says there is some problem with 1.5 mods and 1.75 shifts so they won't make those available to us at this time. So I will go with the original idea to offer blank ABS adapter kit from GMK. GMK promised to have the quote for that and the EDOX kit to me in a few more days so I should be able to get all options finalized and update accordingly by end of week.
Forgive my ignorance, but can you give us some more info about the issue with the 1.5 and 1.75 keys? From what I understand that means we would have three GMK ABS keys and the rest PBT? Personally I would much rather have a higher MOQ if it meant we would have a full PBT set rather than a mixed PBT/ABS set. I use tab and backslash non-stop and for those keys to be ABS would be very close to being a deal-breaker for me.
Edit - Is this graphic correct for which keys would be ABS? http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/keycap_layout.jpg (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media/keycap_layout.jpg)
The keys affected as far as I know are the 1.75 right shift, 1.5 ctrl/alt (not a problem unless you have an old keyboard or Korean custom) and possibly ISO keys.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 21 January 2014, 14:27:57
Originally we were going to have them made with KBC Cherry thicks like my previous PBT groupbuys, and the OP still reflects that. Then I found out it was possible to get PBTs from another source, PLUM. Plum makes their own keycaps, and uses Cherry thick on the Neo Zelia, and Plum96 models. They also make the Choc mini - which is where the 1.5 and 1.75 would have come from. Unfortunately they won't offer those keys to other customer at this time... I guess the molds are owned by/exclusive for Noppoo or something like this.
Regardless if go with KBC or PLUM... now we have the same key selection, same limitation there... but PLUM has a smaller MOQ which is helpful. The dyesubbing is actually like a 3rd party service with imsto, so it dosen't really matter to them where the keycap is from.
Now where GMK comes in, is neither PBT source can supply us with 1.5 mods, 1.75 shifts, ISO enter, 7x spacebar or nice windowed lock keys. So either we can use a few ABS keys to make the set work for some more keyboards or have nothing... I will let buyer decide by offering a choice. If you want the GMK ABS extras, it will be separate item for extra cost so you can get them if you need/want them.
I hope this explains better what is going on and makes sense to you all.
Post by: bueller on Tue, 21 January 2014, 14:30:37
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 21 January 2014, 14:31:15
Post by: riotonthebay on Tue, 21 January 2014, 14:52:24
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 21 January 2014, 15:38:53
I refuse to use SP for any reason. I ****ing HATE DCS.
You preach the truth. I am thankful to find a like-minded individual.
Post by: fuus on Tue, 21 January 2014, 16:34:40
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 21 January 2014, 16:57:10
I refuse to use SP for any reason. I ****ing HATE DCS.
You preach the truth. I am thankful to find a like-minded individual.
I have two dcs sets. After using dsa and gmk, I can't go back to dcs.
I can't get past the thinness and the bottom two rows of the dcs profile.
Post by: strict on Tue, 21 January 2014, 17:02:14
The keys affected as far as I know are the 1.75 right shift, 1.5 ctrl/alt (not a problem unless you have an old keyboard or Korean custom) and possibly ISO keys.
Thank you for clarifying that. So for a Filco board it is essentially a non-issue? I could have a complete PBT set?
Post by: Linkbane on Tue, 21 January 2014, 20:48:57
I refuse to use SP for any reason. I ****ing HATE DCS.
You preach the truth. I am thankful to find a like-minded individual.
I have two dcs sets. After using dsa and gmk, I can't go back to dcs.
I can't get past the thinness and the bottom two rows of the dcs profile.
Ah, I know what you mean now. I just thought that aesthetically the DCS seemed rather ugly compared to Cherry and OEM profile, could just be me.
How do spherical caps feel? I've always been scared away because they aren't sculptured, but what do you think of them in typing?
Post by: tbc on Tue, 21 January 2014, 23:42:04
The keys affected as far as I know are the 1.75 right shift, 1.5 ctrl/alt (not a problem unless you have an old keyboard or Korean custom) and possibly ISO keys.
Thank you for clarifying that. So for a Filco board it is essentially a non-issue? I could have a complete PBT set?
yes. your filco will 100% pbt.
How do spherical caps feel? I've always been scared away because they aren't sculptured, but what do you think of them in typing?
if you're really precise with your typing (always hitting the center) OR you're so unprecise that you end up hitting the corner/side edges of the top surface anyways (me), DSA won't be a problem if you can hold a iphone 4 nicely (so if you're not a tiny asian girl, you're fine), except possibly the f-row. people who are 'medium' accurate will find that they hit the edge of the cap since the top is smaller.
you DO feel like the lack of sculpting in the number row and to a lesser degree, the spacebar row. will that affect typing? for a 60wpm typer, not an issue (for more than that, i can't say). also something to note, for some reason, DSA caps FEEL like there is more than 4mm of tracal, making it easier to not bottom out.
Post by: Linkbane on Wed, 22 January 2014, 01:41:50
The keys affected as far as I know are the 1.75 right shift, 1.5 ctrl/alt (not a problem unless you have an old keyboard or Korean custom) and possibly ISO keys.
Thank you for clarifying that. So for a Filco board it is essentially a non-issue? I could have a complete PBT set?
yes. your filco will 100% pbt.How do spherical caps feel? I've always been scared away because they aren't sculptured, but what do you think of them in typing?
if you're really precise with your typing (always hitting the center) OR you're so unprecise that you end up hitting the corner/side edges of the top surface anyways (me), DSA won't be a problem if you can hold a iphone 4 nicely (so if you're not a tiny asian girl, you're fine), except possibly the f-row. people who are 'medium' accurate will find that they hit the edge of the cap since the top is smaller.
you DO feel like the lack of sculpting in the number row and to a lesser degree, the spacebar row. will that affect typing? for a 60wpm typer, not an issue (for more than that, i can't say). also something to note, for some reason, DSA caps FEEL like there is more than 4mm of tracal, making it easier to not bottom out.
Hmm, I couldn't imagine that lack of sculpting would be that bad, but I imagine that it would be noticeable in a somewhat unpleasant sense. Spherical as you describe it seems quite good, perhaps I'll give it a try in my spare time.
As far as not bottoming out, that's not a problem, haha. Typing without bottoming out on OEM caps isn't too bad, even at 150 wpm+.
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 22 January 2014, 01:51:46
Post by: Nithix on Wed, 22 January 2014, 02:05:42
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 22 January 2014, 07:50:13
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 22 January 2014, 07:57:20
If I placed an order using the form already, can I use the form again to add another set to my order?
If you saved the link from your first order you can edit it.
Otherwise you have to place a new order, but keep in mind that you overwrite your first order if you place a second one. So in your case the second order has to contain two separate sets and not just one.
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 22 January 2014, 08:22:11
If I placed an order using the form already, can I use the form again to add another set to my order?
If you saved the link from your first order you can edit it.
Otherwise you have to place a new order, but keep in mind that you overwrite your first order if you place a second one. So in your case the second order has to contain two separate sets and not just one.
Great! Thanks for the info :)
I didn't save the old link, so I'll make a new order with both sets.
I really hope this meets MOQ soon.
Post by: ynrozturk on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:02:50
Post by: eujin1994 on Wed, 22 January 2014, 09:15:07
Question, legends are still black if I'm able to have my own layout?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:03:52
Still some discussion going on about doing sideprint. It may become an option, just keep an eye on the OP if it appears there. Sideprint dyesub would be same price as rest of printed set.
Post by: t2russo on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:28:50
I would be very down with getting one each of a blank, Cherry replica, and side-print makeup.
Post by: mooswa on Wed, 22 January 2014, 12:40:25
Post by: nickatnite on Wed, 22 January 2014, 14:19:58
With dyesub you can only have a darker color than the keycap, so on a black set that does limit you to an even darker black for legends. If you want to order 20+ for a specific layout can also have laser option if you would rather to get a lighter legend color. Laser is same price as dyesub.
Still some discussion going on about doing sideprint. It may become an option, just keep an eye on the OP if it appears there. Sideprint dyesub would be same price as rest of printed set.
I just realize it's bad enough seeing legends black on black from the top. Black on black side prints would make it nearly invisible. May as well get blanks.
Classy white or gray prints preferred using any printing method.
Post by: strict on Wed, 22 January 2014, 18:29:29
I just realize it's bad enough seeing legends black on black from the top. Black on black side prints would make it nearly invisible. May as well get blanks.
Classy white or gray prints preferred using any printing method.
Thats the appeal of it :thumb:
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 23 January 2014, 02:57:39
I will be cancelling my order unless I can get truly black PBT blanks. Was looking forward to trying Cherry profile....
I am very disappointed and I suspect a lot of other people will be, too. Was it to reach MOQ by combining the orders for printed and blank (since you can't do dyesub on true black)?
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 23 January 2014, 04:36:57
Okay, so reading through here again just to see if I missed anything I discover that the "Pitch BLACK" edition blank black set is not actually going to be black, but dark grey like the Realforce keys...
I will be cancelling my order unless I can get truly black PBT blanks. Was looking forward to trying Cherry profile....
I am very disappointed and I suspect a lot of other people will be, too. Was it to reach MOQ by combining the orders for printed and blank (since you can't do dyesub on true black)?
Ivan never claimed the set will be truly black. Whoever ordered and is now surprised that these are dark gray keys simply didn't read the OP. This is hardly Ivan's fault. "Pitch Black" is just a catchy name for this set like "Raindrop" or "Red Alert".
Post by: atlas3686 on Thu, 23 January 2014, 04:40:21
Okay, so reading through here again just to see if I missed anything I discover that the "Pitch BLACK" edition blank black set is not actually going to be black, but dark grey like the Realforce keys...
I will be cancelling my order unless I can get truly black PBT blanks. Was looking forward to trying Cherry profile....
I am very disappointed and I suspect a lot of other people will be, too. Was it to reach MOQ by combining the orders for printed and blank (since you can't do dyesub on true black)?
I think we are probably arguing shades of grey here but the Realforce keys are pretty dark I mean my "black" Filco keys are not noticeably darker than my Topre keys.
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 23 January 2014, 05:00:49
That's not black to my eyes.... The OP doesn't mention that these are not pure black. The GB was originally for only blanks and I was expecting them to be like the Ducky blank black PBT (which really are black), but thicker and Cherry profile. I don't think I was out of line to assume this.
I guess the colour was chosen so that Ivan could add dyesubbed sets to the GB to try to get to MOQ. I should have kept an eye on the thread's progress, but I didn't and now have been unpleasantly surprised.
Maybe they just photograph badly, but all the pictures I have seen of the Realforce "black" PBT caps appear grey to me, whereas the Filco (etched) and Ducky (blank) ones look properly black:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5185/5562954692_465ac0f080_b.jpg)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 23 January 2014, 05:01:34
Okay, so reading through here again just to see if I missed anything I discover that the "Pitch BLACK" edition blank black set is not actually going to be black, but dark grey like the Realforce keys...
I will be cancelling my order unless I can get truly black PBT blanks. Was looking forward to trying Cherry profile....
I am very disappointed and I suspect a lot of other people will be, too. Was it to reach MOQ by combining the orders for printed and blank (since you can't do dyesub on true black)?
I think we are probably arguing shades of grey here but the Realforce keys are pretty dark I mean my "black" Filco keys are not noticeably darker than my Topre keys.
Yeah only on the Web is black truly black, IRL is always a different story.
Post by: Candyflip on Thu, 23 January 2014, 05:01:44
To be honest I am surprised a little too, I am guessing you didn't read the OP since no where it says it is dark gray. One would assume Pitch Black is just a catchy name for a black set which I thought I am ordering. I can't say if the mock up is the real color or the set would be lighter shade or darker but If I wanted dark grey I would rather participate in the GMK group buy than a random factory produced PBT caps.Okay, so reading through here again just to see if I missed anything I discover that the "Pitch BLACK" edition blank black set is not actually going to be black, but dark grey like the Realforce keys...
I will be cancelling my order unless I can get truly black PBT blanks. Was looking forward to trying Cherry profile....
I am very disappointed and I suspect a lot of other people will be, too. Was it to reach MOQ by combining the orders for printed and blank (since you can't do dyesub on true black)?
Ivan never claimed the set will be truly black. Whoever ordered and is now surprised that these are dark gray keys simply didn't read the OP. This is hardly Ivan's fault. "Pitch Black" is just a catchy name for this set like "Raindrop" or "Red Alert".
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 23 January 2014, 05:24:31
And from the Deskthority Wiki page on Realforce: "Topre’s black keycaps are not completely black"
I have yet to see one of these boards in person, so I'm not sure if it is dark enough to be acceptable for me, but I don't think it's right to call it black when it's noticably lighter than the colour of the case.
I guess I'll leave my order as is (one set of blanks) as I know I'll find a use for them (even if I end up selling them on), but I think the OP should be updated with info about the exact colour used, so more people don't get surprised by this.
Ivan, sorry if I over-reacted, but I wasn't expecting this.
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 23 January 2014, 05:36:27
To be honest I am surprised a little too, I am guessing you didn't read the OP since no where it says it is dark gray. One would assume Pitch Black is just a catchy name for a black set which I thought I am ordering. I can't say if the mock up is the real color or the set would be lighter shade or darker but If I wanted dark grey I would rather participate in the GMK group buy than a random factory produced PBT caps.Okay, so reading through here again just to see if I missed anything I discover that the "Pitch BLACK" edition blank black set is not actually going to be black, but dark grey like the Realforce keys...
I will be cancelling my order unless I can get truly black PBT blanks. Was looking forward to trying Cherry profile....
I am very disappointed and I suspect a lot of other people will be, too. Was it to reach MOQ by combining the orders for printed and blank (since you can't do dyesub on true black)?
Ivan never claimed the set will be truly black. Whoever ordered and is now surprised that these are dark gray keys simply didn't read the OP. This is hardly Ivan's fault. "Pitch Black" is just a catchy name for this set like "Raindrop" or "Red Alert".
Ok, I give you that. Dark gray isn't explicitly mentioned in the OP. I must have mixed this up with the discussion in this thread, but just looking at the mockups makes it obvious in my opinion. If black legends are to be put on dark caps, logic demands that these caps can't be truly black.
There is an explicit pic of how this set is supposed to look like in post #10. Maybe Ivan should edit this pic to the OP.
Am I the only that actually reads a thread anymore? It feels like nowadays people only skip through the OP and take a glance at the last few posts just to ask questions that were answered on the very first page of the thread...
Post by: strict on Thu, 23 January 2014, 08:45:23
(http://www.netsourceinc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blacks.jpg)
Post by: eujin1994 on Thu, 23 January 2014, 09:04:35
Post by: itsaferbie on Thu, 23 January 2014, 10:46:28
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 23 January 2014, 12:17:42
I actually googled "what is pitch black". Ended up showing some movie results. :(
pitch-black
adj
1. extremely dark; unlit: the room was pitch-black.
2. (Colours) of a deep black colour
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 23 January 2014, 12:33:43
Post by: nickatnite on Thu, 23 January 2014, 12:42:54
Post by: riotonthebay on Thu, 23 January 2014, 12:43:38
Is it possible to do Rich Black on blanks and Process Black on printed?
This would give us two MOQ's to reach, and we're having trouble with one.
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 23 January 2014, 12:56:40
Post by: strict on Thu, 23 January 2014, 13:05:35
Is there a difference between imsto and plum in terms of quality?
I believe KBC is producing the set with the 400 MOQ, not imsto. However, Im wondering this as well. Even if there was a small quality difference between KBC and Plum, I would almost be inclined to say its worth it to wait to meet the KBC MOQ. Since these keycaps are so unique I would prefer them to be as absolutely top-notch as possible. I've seen a ton of positive reviews for KBC caps but I haven't heard nearly as much about Plum caps.
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 23 January 2014, 13:23:22
I was posting out of disappointment. Rich black Cherry profile thick PBT blanks are pretty close to my IDEAL keycaps and that is what I had set my heart on.
Thank you for all your effort on doing this for us, Ivan.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 23 January 2014, 13:49:56
Post by: Lu_e on Thu, 23 January 2014, 19:48:42
These 2 things I was really looking forward to.
Post by: CommonCurt on Thu, 23 January 2014, 22:20:45
How about the smoothness of the stem? That's one thing people have been repeating about IMSTO keys, that the stem doesn't add any extra friction to depressing keys. & do the PLUM keycaps have sharp/pointy corners?
These 2 things I was really looking forward to.
Yeah, I love how Imsto caps have pointy corners.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 January 2014, 13:18:01
(http://www.focalgadgets.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/39e08ee729ca5ce46cb3e2afe59035b0/w/h/white-noppoo-choc-mini-84-usb-nkro-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-black-brown-pbt-key-cap-17.jpg)
I never owned a Choc, Plum, or Neo keyboard so I can't answer about how if they pose any feeling differences.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 27 January 2014, 13:42:47
Post by: tbc on Mon, 27 January 2014, 13:56:00
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 27 January 2014, 14:29:50
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 27 January 2014, 15:05:17
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 27 January 2014, 15:34:10
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 28 January 2014, 01:38:56
They are still blank Cherry profile thick PBT. Dark grey still looks good in most of the same places as black.
Wallet officially hacked, let's get to this MOQ guys!
Post by: naasfu on Tue, 28 January 2014, 01:55:38
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 28 January 2014, 04:59:21
I'd add a set of those to my current order :)
Post by: 1pq on Tue, 28 January 2014, 08:15:24
Wallet officially hacked, let's get to this MOQ guys!
Definitely! Once the ISO add on is official, I'll be in for a set of blanks and a set of black printed ones.
Post by: strict on Tue, 28 January 2014, 10:15:18
Any news on the sideprinted option?
I'd add a set of those to my current order :)
If side-print becomes available I plan on promptly changing my order from a set of blanks & top-print to a set of blanks & side-print. I cant pass up an opportunity for something as sexy as thick pbt cherry profile dyesub side-print.
Post by: MsYutai on Tue, 28 January 2014, 11:47:43
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 28 January 2014, 12:01:52
Post by: 1pq on Tue, 28 January 2014, 14:56:38
Post by: atlas3686 on Tue, 28 January 2014, 14:59:29
Wait plum didn't work out? Will ISO still be ABS?
Keys are Plum printing is imsto I think.
Post by: MsYutai on Tue, 28 January 2014, 19:15:43
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40637.msg820343#msg820343
My QFR with thick grey PBT from Feng...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2PYfhpx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TU1OyNA.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7RVDsUR.jpg)
Post by: t2russo on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:25:57
Here's a post with some pics of the caps if anyone is wondering. I'm thinking they will look the exact same as this set?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40637.msg820343#msg820343My QFR with thick grey PBT from Feng...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2PYfhpx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TU1OyNA.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7RVDsUR.jpg)
No this is wrong these are not the keys.
Post by: tbc on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:36:20
Post by: 1pq on Tue, 28 January 2014, 20:52:19
Here's a post with some pics of the caps if anyone is wondering. I'm thinking they will look the exact same as this set?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40637.msg820343#msg820343My QFR with thick grey PBT from Feng...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2PYfhpx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TU1OyNA.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7RVDsUR.jpg)
No this is wrong these are not the keys.
I believe these are black, not dark grey like yours.
Post by: atlas3686 on Wed, 29 January 2014, 01:15:50
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 29 January 2014, 01:42:06
Here's a post with some pics of the caps if anyone is wondering. I'm thinking they will look the exact same as this set?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40637.msg820343#msg820343My QFR with thick grey PBT from Feng...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2PYfhpx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TU1OyNA.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7RVDsUR.jpg)
No this is wrong these are not the keys.
I believe these are black, not dark grey like yours.
Well... a much darker grey at least ;) But otherwise pretty much the same: Thick PBT Cherry profile. Yummy.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 January 2014, 03:00:02
Post by: AndrePews on Wed, 29 January 2014, 10:27:20
The Aurebesh is dendi!
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 29 January 2014, 11:01:45
Post by: MsYutai on Wed, 29 January 2014, 11:18:50
Here's a post with some pics of the caps if anyone is wondering. I'm thinking they will look the exact same as this set?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40637.msg820343#msg820343My QFR with thick grey PBT from Feng...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2PYfhpx.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TU1OyNA.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7RVDsUR.jpg)
No this is wrong these are not the keys.
I believe these are black, not dark grey like yours.
Okay good to know! I updated my original post so no one is confused!!
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 January 2014, 11:19:52
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 29 January 2014, 11:33:33
No the GMK adapter kits will be separate items and additional cost. I haven't added them to the form yet because I still don't have pricing. I guess they are having a tough time trying to locate the vertical 1.5 keys for the EDOX pack.
Can I place my order now (to reserve a set or two) and then add the add-on pack when it becomes available?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 January 2014, 11:37:27
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 29 January 2014, 16:55:38
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 January 2014, 17:04:11
I filled a form forever ago, just making sure there isn't a new one. How can I check my order? Thanks.
2 blank, 1 US
Post by: Nubbles on Thu, 30 January 2014, 16:55:32
Apologies, but hopefully just one set shouldn't hurt too much trying to reach MOQ.
Post by: KaLam1ty on Thu, 30 January 2014, 17:25:54
to go along with this? (i.e. Capslock <-> Ctrl/Backspace, etc.)?
Post by: Al3xG on Fri, 31 January 2014, 08:52:01
Thanks ;)
Post by: AndrePews on Fri, 31 January 2014, 09:08:12
Just to make sure did you get my order? :)
Thanks!
Post by: 1pq on Fri, 31 January 2014, 09:42:54
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 31 January 2014, 09:44:02
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 31 January 2014, 11:40:35
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 31 January 2014, 12:21:45
Post by: Rewind on Fri, 31 January 2014, 14:54:36
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 31 January 2014, 16:23:53
Post by: lcs on Fri, 31 January 2014, 16:25:50
Post by: CK Briefs on Fri, 31 January 2014, 16:27:34
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 31 January 2014, 16:34:04
Post by: Rayne on Fri, 31 January 2014, 18:23:48
order placed, 1 blank set and standard pack :)
Post by: epzy on Fri, 31 January 2014, 18:42:50
Post by: avtar on Fri, 31 January 2014, 19:31:41
I will know for sure sometime after the Lunar New Year holiday period about the sideprint.
I'll sign up for this if side print becomes an option.
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 31 January 2014, 22:57:54
Post by: Noko on Sat, 01 February 2014, 10:48:15
Post by: digi on Sat, 01 February 2014, 10:55:15
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 01 February 2014, 11:18:29
Post by: tbc on Sat, 01 February 2014, 14:07:29
i'm a fan of no windows.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 01 February 2014, 14:32:35
While PLUM do have windowed key, it's the tiny dot kind of window like this
(http://www39.tx8cdn.com/photo/xiaqoli/plum96_005.jpg)
and I don't really care for it. Also it's likely to be on the wrong side for most keyboard in switch lock lights as well anyway.
Post by: 1pq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 15:44:26
Post by: 1pq on Mon, 03 February 2014, 21:09:19
Post by: PolaBurrr on Mon, 03 February 2014, 23:05:25
Post by: tbc on Tue, 04 February 2014, 00:15:59
Post by: mattics on Tue, 04 February 2014, 03:15:15
What is a rough estimate for tracked shipping to the UK for 1 (or possbily 2) sets?
And PayPal fees are 3.4% right?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 04 February 2014, 18:20:16
We are getting close... only ~40 PBT sets away from MOQ.
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 05 February 2014, 01:17:36
We are getting close... only ~40 PBT sets away from MOQ.
I guess if you announce a sideprinted option we will get these 40 orders the same day ;)
I know I would add one to my existing order :thumb:
Post by: tbc on Wed, 05 February 2014, 01:42:25
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 05 February 2014, 09:25:03
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 05 February 2014, 10:07:12
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 05 February 2014, 10:27:23
Post by: fuus on Fri, 07 February 2014, 03:26:59
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 07 February 2014, 03:46:37
Order count (2.2.14):
PBT full sets: 258/300
GMK standard: 9/400
GMK EDOX: 2/400
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 07 February 2014, 08:01:04
Kind of surprised there is not more going on the GMK add ons... it is things many asked for.
Post by: sean4star on Fri, 07 February 2014, 14:52:26
One problem...I can't remember if I used my geekhack or my deskthority account. I would hate to order twice! Can you let me know?
Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 07 February 2014, 17:01:13
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 07 February 2014, 17:02:45
The gmk addon will also be black?
Yes, it will be color matched.
Post by: jonathanyu on Fri, 07 February 2014, 17:06:57
The gmk addon will also be black?
Yes, it will be color matched.
Great, will order at least three just for the windowed caps
Post by: epzy on Fri, 07 February 2014, 17:08:43
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 07 February 2014, 17:11:26
The gmk addon will also be black?
Yes, it will be color matched.
Great, will order at least three just for the windowed caps
Please forgive my complete ignorance here but what do these GMK addon packs consist of? Would like to see what they look like because I can then decide on which keyboards to possibly install them on.
Sorry but I'm just a simple goon that needs pictures in explaining anything. I still like reading Dr. Seuss :p .
Post by: n7 on Fri, 07 February 2014, 18:37:19
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 08 February 2014, 08:16:17
Windowed caps/num/scroll lock keys
ISO
Cherry deepdish home keys
1.5 mods and 7x spacebar for vintage/customs
1.75 shift for 75%/Pure/1800
extra 2.25 shift for FC660M
Post by: fuus on Sat, 08 February 2014, 17:03:56
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 08 February 2014, 18:42:34
Add on standard offers you:
Windowed caps/num/scroll lock keys
ISO
Cherry deepdish home keys
1.5 mods and 7x spacebar for vintage/customs
1.75 shift for 75%/Pure/1800
extra 2.25 shift for FC660M
Just added these to my original order, please let me know if you can add these latest ones to the others already picked. Thanks Ivan ;D .
If there are problems I can re-order everything again but you'll need to scrap the OLD orders first.
Post by: t2russo on Sun, 09 February 2014, 13:08:59
Post by: 1pq on Sun, 09 February 2014, 16:26:51
Post by: Loligagger on Sun, 09 February 2014, 17:04:11
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 10 February 2014, 00:22:53
Post by: 1pq on Mon, 10 February 2014, 00:28:43
Post by: LemSkee on Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:40:01
Post by: ssdt on Mon, 10 February 2014, 16:33:51
should I re-submit my order? I have seen you changed the orderform after my last visit here (quite a long time I know).
Thanks <3
Post by: tbc on Mon, 10 February 2014, 16:58:30
will you ever run a GB for blank rich black (or even darker if possible)?
sorry if this has been asked before, but i REALLY want it. I'm still sticking to this GB, but if you are definitely either GOING TO or NOT going to do a GB for rich black, I want to make a mental note of it.
Post by: 1pq on Mon, 10 February 2014, 17:11:26
Post by: t2russo on Mon, 10 February 2014, 17:16:24
Did you read the OP? This GB includes blank process black :))
Ivan edited that part out bruh bruh, not sure when though. It's probably worth putting back in though to avoid these questions popping back up.
Post by: tbc on Mon, 10 February 2014, 17:24:21
got process and rich mixed up.
fixed now :D
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 11 February 2014, 03:04:33
Ivan,
will you ever run a GB for blank rich black (or even darker if possible)?
sorry if this has been asked before, but i REALLY want it. I'm still sticking to this GB, but if you are definitely either GOING TO or NOT going to do a GB for rich black, I want to make a mental note of it.
+1. This is what I originally joined this GB for, so would love to know if there will be a truly deep (rich) black GB later.
Post by: 1pq on Tue, 11 February 2014, 06:43:09
Post by: neunelfer on Tue, 11 February 2014, 10:45:43
Would it be possible to purchase 2 extra row 1 keys for numpads to replace the 2x key?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 11 February 2014, 16:18:00
I can only make it so dark and still have printing, but it will be as dark as can be with the printing still at least vaguely visible. I am not sure there is enough interest to make MOQ with blank only... this would be very hard I think. As of now the total order is still about half blank half printed. I think this is one of those instances where small compromises need to be made to get anything into production at all.
Post by: cookiesowns on Tue, 11 February 2014, 20:10:51
Only need to resubmit if you are interested in the other options that have been added.
I can only make it so dark and still have printing, but it will be as dark as can be with the printing still at least vaguely visible. I am not sure there is enough interest to make MOQ with blank only... this would be very hard I think. As of now the total order is still about half blank half printed. I think this is one of those instances where small compromises need to be made to get anything into production at all.
Well that's not good =( I'm really only interested in the blank option.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 11 February 2014, 20:15:46
Post by: 1pq on Tue, 11 February 2014, 20:39:37
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Wed, 12 February 2014, 00:04:58
Post by: pr1me on Wed, 12 February 2014, 04:45:26
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 12 February 2014, 05:43:47
side print option dead or there is still hope for it ?
Ivan said he is still waiting for a final answer on this.
Post by: neunelfer on Wed, 12 February 2014, 08:02:27
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 12 February 2014, 08:10:47
For sideprinting, it sound like they are not ready for this yet. Perhaps they will be ready for next time and we can also do set like these:
(http://i.imgur.com/3B925IB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mm0NKZD.jpg)
(http://deskthority.net/resources/eu-multicolour-dyesubs/6640)
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 12 February 2014, 09:11:30
You want blank, you will have it. All I am saying, is we can't have it too dark black, because then printing is impossible. Without printed set, nothing get made because blank only not enough orders to carry the buy into moq.
Playing devil's advocate (I like the RF charcoal regardless), I can't imagine printing would be "impossible", would it? The machines physically don't work if the keys are too dark? The printing might be incredibly difficult to see, but the odds of the printing being the exact same black seems truly "impossible", at least to a layman like me. And surely dye-sub causes some degree of marking, however faint.
I get that you're not manufacturing them yourself so you're at the whim of the keymaker's statements, whatever they say ultimately is what is available.
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 12 February 2014, 09:15:06
You want blank, you will have it. All I am saying, is we can't have it too dark black, because then printing is impossible. Without printed set, nothing get made because blank only not enough orders to carry the buy into moq.
Playing devil's advocate (I like the RF charcoal regardless), I can't imagine printing would be "impossible", would it? The machines physically don't work if the keys are too dark? The printing might be incredibly difficult to see, but the odds of the printing being the exact same black seems truly "impossible", at least to a layman like me. And surely dye-sub/double-shooting causes some degree of marking, however faint.
I get that you're not manufacturing them yourself so you're at the whim of the keymaker's statements, whatever they say ultimately is what is available.
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 12 February 2014, 11:42:48
Post by: neunelfer on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:05:43
(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/d20657e4.jpg)
Because if so, damn.
Post by: riotonthebay on Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:09:01
Will these black Plum keycaps be as thick as these?Show Image(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/d20657e4.jpg)
Because if so, damn.
Is that a picture of Plum caps?
Post by: bladegesnow on Wed, 12 February 2014, 21:04:59
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 12 February 2014, 21:16:01
Will these black Plum keycaps be as thick as these?Show Image(http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp349/lysol8086/d20657e4.jpg)
Because if so, damn.
These caps are PBT, not plum fyi. I don't know about the thickness question, though.
Edit: Ignore this silliness ^^ (I got plum and POM confused...don't ask)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 12 February 2014, 21:35:10
Post by: neunelfer on Wed, 12 February 2014, 22:14:48
PLUM is just same thick like the Cherry one imsto and I have before. That photo is of original vintage Cherry ones from around 1986.
Ah, ok. I just assumed they were the actual ones in the GB you did on DT.
Also 1pq, is Plum not the manufacturer? I know they're both PBT, I wasn't talking about material.
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 12 February 2014, 22:25:32
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 12 February 2014, 22:31:27
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 12 February 2014, 22:51:43
PLUM does make POM too (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49081.0). Maybe we can try to do a groupbuy for that again sometime... it had a pretty low price I am not sure why it didn't go very far. POM is very nice too.
I would get a POM set if they were cherry profile, had legends, and didn't have the win8 logo (or a option to get blank win keys).
Post by: tbc on Wed, 12 February 2014, 23:05:59
jokes. i would get it anyways. I did try to get two sets in dante's GB.
EDIT:
kinda sad about the no side-print thing. that's fine, i'll get it in the next GB if it's there.
Post by: t2russo on Wed, 12 February 2014, 23:06:52
PLUM does make POM too (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49081.0). Maybe we can try to do a groupbuy for that again sometime... it had a pretty low price I am not sure why it didn't go very far. POM is very nice too.
Yes! It made me sad when that buy went nowhere.
Post by: 1pq on Wed, 12 February 2014, 23:08:30
Post by: tbc on Wed, 12 February 2014, 23:19:50
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 13 February 2014, 01:31:15
Post by: gigibecali on Thu, 13 February 2014, 03:39:23
that was a REALLY low MOQ. it should have been a smashing success :(
I believe the Asian source smelled bad. A matter of trust.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 13 February 2014, 08:25:27
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 13 February 2014, 10:11:31
I haven't touch them myself yet, but judge from photo texture will be more on finer side like other Cherry profile PBTs.
Can we see pictures, or are you just going off previous imsto sets you've seen? Thanks
Also, am I reading this right? It takes an additional 6-7 weeks after the GB closes to actually make the keys?
Post by: t2russo on Thu, 13 February 2014, 10:32:53
I haven't touch them myself yet, but judge from photo texture will be more on finer side like other Cherry profile PBTs.
Can we see pictures, or are you just going off previous imsto sets you've seen? Thanks
Also, am I reading this right? It takes an additional 6-7 weeks after the GB closes to actually make the keys?
6-7 weeks is pretty standard because you have to deal with manufacturing, shipping from China -> USA for Ivan to divvy up, and then sending them out from there (
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 13 February 2014, 11:01:29
You can see the keys we will be getting on white Choc mini, Plum 96 or Neo Zelia photo.
Post by: RomeoActual on Thu, 13 February 2014, 11:15:13
Post by: bubuchacha251 on Thu, 13 February 2014, 11:24:53
Post by: Nithix on Thu, 13 February 2014, 21:39:06
Post by: lolkey on Fri, 14 February 2014, 06:13:03
My production time is more a rough estimate. First the keys need to be made as this color is not something they will have standing stock on which will need to be fit into their production schedule. After that the sets that need printing need to go to another party for dyesub... then transit time.
You can see the keys we will be getting on white Choc mini, Plum 96 or Neo Zelia photo.
So this?
(http://i.imgur.com/XnBRfek.png)
They look pretty cheap, at least in that picture.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:24:38
PBTs are almost to MOQ :D
Post by: dante on Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:28:32
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 14 February 2014, 11:37:46
Thread needs more vendors. I wish I had $5k sitting around just to buy a few dozen sets - these will sell on ebay even with a nice mark up.
I agree, I'm really surprised there hasn't been more vendor activity for this buy.
Post by: t2russo on Fri, 14 February 2014, 11:57:10
Post by: 1pq on Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:13:58
GMK add ons each have a minimum of 400 to go to production.
...
GMK standard: 30/400
GMK EDOX: 6/250
I just noticed this in the OP -- is this a mistake? Do both sets have a MOQ of 400?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 14 February 2014, 13:22:03
Post by: 1pq on Fri, 14 February 2014, 14:04:34
Post by: Veteranos on Fri, 14 February 2014, 16:41:14
so these will be shipped right after we reach the 300 PBT orders?
Blank-Black ordered :)
Post by: t2russo on Fri, 14 February 2014, 19:35:52
hmm.. ok shipping internationally - arround 12-14$
so these will be shipped right after we reach the 300 PBT orders?
Blank-Black ordered :)
Need to be made after we hit the 300, so expect at least 6-7 weeks. Just so ya aren't confused.
Post by: domoaligato on Fri, 14 February 2014, 21:21:59
Post by: lolkey on Fri, 14 February 2014, 22:50:25
(http://i.imgur.com/GyxtBtH.jpg)
Post by: bazh on Fri, 14 February 2014, 23:12:50
Sorry to be asking so many questions, but will these be the super thick ones or the standard thick?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GyxtBtH.jpg)
it must be thick like the white one
Post by: tbc on Sat, 15 February 2014, 00:25:49
Post by: gerg on Sat, 15 February 2014, 03:52:56
Post by: Ound on Sat, 15 February 2014, 06:07:50
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 15 February 2014, 06:28:25
Set full will be PBT Cherry thick, add on is ABS Cherry thick.
All order will send at same time, as the entire order would be shipped to me at once not half/half.
Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 15 February 2014, 08:46:39
Post by: cmadrid on Sat, 15 February 2014, 20:23:25
Post by: wilflare on Sat, 15 February 2014, 20:26:33
thinking of getting a blank set on top of my black on black
Post by: riotonthebay on Sat, 15 February 2014, 20:27:17
umm how do I change my order?
thinking of getting a blank set on top of my black on black
Just resubmit the form with the same personal information.
Post by: t2russo on Sat, 15 February 2014, 21:49:47
Just going through old photos in the clack thread and saw this photo by jil_jil32.
Hoo boy am I excited for Realforce black.
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 15 February 2014, 22:08:14
Show Image(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TyTAuipR8cA/UMmZ3NcsRtI/AAAAAAAAClE/1IqqMQeF22U/s1000/151.png)
Just going through old photos in the clack thread and saw this photo by jil_jil32.
Hoo boy am I excited for Realforce black.
I am the opposite, if I can't see my keys I can't type. YES I'm old, lazy and incompetent, so I will never be able to type without watching the keyboard and at night I might as well be like Stevie Wonder........
Post by: lolkey on Sun, 16 February 2014, 01:43:00
What look cheap? The pad print? If that what you think make it look cheap then it's not even a concern since we aren't doing that.
PBTs are almost to MOQ :D
Everything about them looks cheap in the first image I posted. Maybe it's just a bad picture and the lighting on that image, who knows? But I've searched around for the keyboards you listed that have these keycaps and they all seem different. Like the choc mini has smooth surface, then the Neo Zelia looks like it's textured and much better quality seen here:
(http://i.imgur.com/9yXOT55.png)
This just seems so bizarre to me, maybe because I'm new to mechanical keyboards and group buys. I can't grasp that you're giving a company nearly $20,000 for a product and they can't supply a sample piece of plastic to show you what you would be getting.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 16 February 2014, 07:47:31
Post by: neunelfer on Sun, 16 February 2014, 08:57:50
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 16 February 2014, 09:13:02
Post by: Willy on Sun, 16 February 2014, 13:23:50
Show Image(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TyTAuipR8cA/UMmZ3NcsRtI/AAAAAAAAClE/1IqqMQeF22U/s1000/151.png)
Just going through old photos in the clack thread and saw this photo by jil_jil32.
Hoo boy am I excited for Realforce black.
I am the opposite, if I can't see my keys I can't type. YES I'm old, lazy and incompetent, so I will never be able to type without watching the keyboard and at night I might as well be like Stevie Wonder........
It should only take about a week to become fluent in touch typing. The best way to learn is by getting a set of blank keys. (;
Post by: DarkShot on Sun, 16 February 2014, 13:56:31
It should only take about a week to become fluent in touch typing. The best way to learn is by getting a set of blank keys. (;
Here here! Only real reason I got a set of blank keys, and it sure did help.
Super stoked for these caps!
Post by: fuus on Sun, 16 February 2014, 15:20:35
Post by: tbc on Sun, 16 February 2014, 17:28:39
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 17 February 2014, 02:00:46
Show Image(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TyTAuipR8cA/UMmZ3NcsRtI/AAAAAAAAClE/1IqqMQeF22U/s1000/151.png)
Just going through old photos in the clack thread and saw this photo by jil_jil32.
Hoo boy am I excited for Realforce black.
I am the opposite, if I can't see my keys I can't type. YES I'm old, lazy and incompetent, so I will never be able to type without watching the keyboard and at night I might as well be like Stevie Wonder........
Stevie Wonder knows what keys are where on a keyboard! ;)
He uses blanks.
It's frustrating at first when trying blanks, since you hit the wrong key a lot and have to try the others around that one until you get the right one (lots of backspacing), but it pays off in the end. You don't really have to think about it too much, your fingers learn the positions. It's quite rewarding when it starts to work out.
I found the hardest characters to remember are the shifted ones on the number keys. The rest have been pretty easy to learn.
Post by: patthebaker17 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 00:00:05
I was pretty excited for these to hit production but now it seems we have to wait a little longer :/
I'm just too excited for my first set of pbt caps!
Post by: tbc on Tue, 18 February 2014, 00:05:04
Post by: Veteranos on Tue, 18 February 2014, 05:43:55
Post by: boost on Tue, 18 February 2014, 09:08:28
Thanks
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 18 February 2014, 09:09:52
damn, I don't know if I put an order in. Is there anyway to check?
Thanks
No, you have to send Ivan a PM.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 18 February 2014, 10:09:35
Yeah, back down again... recent rash of order cancels.
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 18 February 2014, 18:25:15
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 19 February 2014, 00:37:18
I am looking for link of round 1. Please help me if you know. Thanks :)
Here you go:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31861.0
Post by: mrksprvn on Thu, 20 February 2014, 16:29:10
Definitely ordering this set nonetheless.
Post by: tbc on Thu, 20 February 2014, 21:57:17
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 21 February 2014, 09:31:52
Post by: mrksprvn on Fri, 21 February 2014, 09:59:44
Windows logo is left aligned, consistent with other icons shift arrow, enter arrow etc.It seems to be a bit higher than Control and others ie. vertically offcenter.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 21 February 2014, 10:00:37
Post by: mrksprvn on Fri, 21 February 2014, 10:02:08
Oh I see what you mean. Can be fixed for production.Great job. Ordered it just now, I sure hope we hit MOQ.
Post by: ivandaho on Sat, 22 February 2014, 12:10:07
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 23 February 2014, 07:14:45
Post by: Vibex on Sun, 23 February 2014, 14:10:50
Post by: Schwarz on Mon, 24 February 2014, 14:22:56
I had to resubmit because I selected the printed instead of blank, I hope that was the right way to go about it.
Thanks Ivan
Post by: neunelfer on Mon, 24 February 2014, 18:11:27
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 25 February 2014, 01:36:52
What happens if we don't reach 300 orders by March 1st?
I guess Ivan just extends the order period. Since we are so close it's likely that we reach MOQ pretty soon.
It's not like we are sitting at 50% MOQ for months and nobody orders. I think this GB will 100% succeed!
Post by: naasfu on Tue, 25 February 2014, 02:14:11
See someone complaining about flimsy OEM keys, or asking for blank sets? Send 'em here. :) Also, stick a link to this GB in your sig so more people know about it. :thumb:
Post by: clickclack123 on Tue, 25 February 2014, 04:32:41
Quote
Order count (22.2.14):
PBT full sets: 283/300
GMK standard: 32/400
GMK EDOX: 7/250
Umm call me a noob but I want an Ergodox set. So there's no chance of that happening, right? Or is the 250 number just for a cheaper price?
Post by: tbc on Tue, 25 February 2014, 04:33:48
Post by: epzy on Tue, 25 February 2014, 04:49:43
QuoteOrder count (22.2.14):
PBT full sets: 283/300
GMK standard: 32/400
GMK EDOX: 7/250
Umm call me a noob but I want an Ergodox set. So there's no chance of that happening, right? Or is the 250 number just for a cheaper price?
The 'GMK EDOX' set needs to hit 250 orders to make it to production. Chances for that to happen are kinda slim.
Post by: bgee on Tue, 25 February 2014, 08:49:40
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 25 February 2014, 09:28:39
As far as the GMK bits... I will leave that running for a little more. It had much less time and exposure. I need to get a picture of what those are too... I have been really lazy about getting that done, and that usually helps a great deal. Even a very detailed list like I have in the OP now only helps for people that know what the hell it means.
I will try offering Hebrew next PBT groupbuy. I just haven't had time to make the legends/found a suitable Cherry like font to use for it yet.
Post by: neunelfer on Tue, 25 February 2014, 10:41:29
Post by: tbc on Wed, 26 February 2014, 01:25:05
Post by: catbuster on Wed, 26 February 2014, 03:57:52
Post by: Keytrun on Wed, 26 February 2014, 04:41:20
Ivan could u confirm i have ordered 1 blank set? I think i used not my paypal email also...
Same for me. I haven't gotten anything in my email asking me to pay for anything yet. Can you confirm for me what I have ordered and when I need to go about paying for it?
Post by: atlas3686 on Wed, 26 February 2014, 05:08:03
Will you be confirming with those who ordered soon? Just want to make sure you got my order before the deadline :)
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 26 February 2014, 06:40:17
Order deadline will be firm. As long as there isn't another big rash of cancellations I will just use some of my tax return to buy the rest of the sets and sell them later.
Wow, just wanted to say thank you for this. I'm excited for this to get underway, it sounds like our orders will be in very, very good hands.
Post by: epzy on Wed, 26 February 2014, 06:44:23
Order deadline will be firm. As long as there isn't another big rash of cancellations I will just use some of my tax return to buy the rest of the sets and sell them later.
Wow, just wanted to say thank you for this. I'm excited for this to get underway, it sounds like our orders will be in very, very good hands.
Yes, Ivan is top notch. :)
Post by: strict on Wed, 26 February 2014, 07:18:18
Order deadline will be firm. As long as there isn't another big rash of cancellations I will just use some of my tax return to buy the rest of the sets and sell them later.
As far as the GMK bits... I will leave that running for a little more. It had much less time and exposure. I need to get a picture of what those are too... I have been really lazy about getting that done, and that usually helps a great deal. Even a very detailed list like I have in the OP now only helps for people that know what the hell it means.
I will try offering Hebrew next PBT groupbuy. I just haven't had time to make the legends/found a suitable Cherry like font to use for it yet.
Wow, you are awesome Ivan. We are lucky to have someone like you running this GB!
Post by: Veteranos on Wed, 26 February 2014, 07:42:34
Ivan could u confirm i have ordered 1 blank set? I think i used not my paypal email also...
Same for me. I haven't gotten anything in my email asking me to pay for anything yet. Can you confirm for me what I have ordered and when I need to go about paying for it?
I think when the time arrives to pay for them, we will all get the invoice for paypal or whatever...in our email :)
So if i guess right we're around 290 now? :p
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 26 February 2014, 07:42:38
As always, invoicing is not done until orders close.
Post by: bgee on Wed, 26 February 2014, 08:59:13
Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 26 February 2014, 09:17:06
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 26 February 2014, 09:25:37
Post by: rainb1ood on Wed, 26 February 2014, 15:36:51
Post by: dmbr on Wed, 26 February 2014, 19:58:23
Post by: note on Thu, 27 February 2014, 00:25:50
Post by: chromeeye on Thu, 27 February 2014, 13:35:43
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 28 February 2014, 05:19:53
Post by: atlas3686 on Fri, 28 February 2014, 06:39:34
Post by: Snooter on Fri, 28 February 2014, 16:14:12
Edit: I think I am an idiot and just need to put 0...
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 28 February 2014, 16:15:03
Ivan I am trying to order a set of the black on black PBT caps and the order form is telling me I have to order a blank set as well as black on black before I can submit the form. Is this true? I didn't see this written anywhere in the OP. I could also just be an idiot and missing something really simple.
If it's saying you have to enter a number just enter 0
Post by: Snooter on Fri, 28 February 2014, 16:17:14
Ivan I am trying to order a set of the black on black PBT caps and the order form is telling me I have to order a blank set as well as black on black before I can submit the form. Is this true? I didn't see this written anywhere in the OP. I could also just be an idiot and missing something really simple.
If it's saying you have to enter a number just enter 0
Thanks, I guess I need some sleep or glasses. :-/
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 10:49:04
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 01 March 2014, 10:50:16
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 10:57:34
Orders close at end of today for the full sets.
Time zone?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 01 March 2014, 11:36:50
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 01 March 2014, 11:52:01
E: How much would it be for shipping to Canada for a blank set?
Post by: neunelfer on Sat, 01 March 2014, 15:36:27
Awesome, thanks. Whether I like the set or not seems to depend so much on the lighting for the particular sample picture taken....
E: How much would it be for shipping to Canada for a blank set?
None of the pictures in the thread are representative of the final color, they are just other keycaps made by the same manufacturer.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 01 March 2014, 18:11:13
Awesome, thanks. Whether I like the set or not seems to depend so much on the lighting for the particular sample picture taken....
E: How much would it be for shipping to Canada for a blank set?
They're the same color as the black on a Realforce, if that helps.
Shipping, probably no more than $20 US.
Post by: acediac01 on Sun, 02 March 2014, 22:45:39
You can check your orders HERE (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AgnwXcpLx2NpdGdDeVVEY3AyUThKN3Z4M3h6Z0hQR1E&output=html).
As always, invoicing is not done until orders close.
Thank you for this Ivan, being able to check that I've communicated properly is awesome!
I'm so looking forward to replacing some key caps that are showing their age, I can't wait for this to complete!
Post by: j0hnny on Mon, 03 March 2014, 11:45:00
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 03 March 2014, 14:59:15
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 03 March 2014, 15:09:35
Will begin the invoicing soon.
The time has come, boys
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 03 March 2014, 15:32:43
Will begin the invoicing soon.
(http://i.imgur.com/i9fPA.gif)
Post by: Vibex on Mon, 03 March 2014, 16:49:14
Dat gif! :DWill begin the invoicing soon.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/i9fPA.gif)
Post by: Keytrun on Wed, 05 March 2014, 12:12:32
Post by: Veteranos on Wed, 05 March 2014, 12:54:03
Post by: spearman on Wed, 05 March 2014, 15:07:18
Ivan, I haven't gotten an email to pay for my order, and when I looked at the list of confirmed orders I didn't even see my email on it - though I did see my user name. Can you let me know what to do in this situation?
I don't think he's sent out the invoices yet. The list of confirmed orders doesn't list any emails, all the @geekhack are to differentiate from Deskthority orders I think.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 06 March 2014, 09:52:03
Post by: Vibex on Thu, 06 March 2014, 14:23:14
Yes I removed personal information for posted order check sheet as most people don't like such things like the email, real name, mailing address to be shown to the world. I have been busy this week so I have not sent any invoice yet. I will probably start send the invoice next week.Alright. Also is there any time frame for when these will start production and then shipping?
Post by: Ound on Fri, 07 March 2014, 02:07:47
Post by: fydo on Sat, 08 March 2014, 20:54:19
Oh well, I'll have to keep an eye on the classifieds later :)
Post by: DarkShot on Sun, 09 March 2014, 03:34:16
Ah shoot! Looks like I missed this one by a few days.
Oh well, I'll have to keep an eye on the classifieds later :)
To be fair this GB was open for a very, very long time.
You can try messaging Ivan, he may be willing to include you in the batch.
Post by: fydo on Sun, 09 March 2014, 04:21:15
To be fair this GB was open for a very, very long time.
You can try messaging Ivan, he may be willing to include you in the batch.
Thanks for the tip, I just sent him a message.
Cheers!
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 10 March 2014, 12:00:32
Post by: cirrus82 on Mon, 10 March 2014, 12:06:32
Post by: note on Mon, 10 March 2014, 12:08:33
Post by: acediac01 on Mon, 10 March 2014, 12:10:15
Post by: Al3xG on Mon, 10 March 2014, 12:12:03
Post by: DarSee on Mon, 10 March 2014, 12:16:50
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 10 March 2014, 12:40:22
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 10 March 2014, 12:51:08
Orders will be declared to $10, unless insurance is requested.
Post by: calavera on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:02:18
Post by: GeorgeK on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:06:37
Paid my invoice btw! :)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:09:08
Post by: Arizone on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:11:21
Post by: lavieest on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:32:27
Post by: neunelfer on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:36:28
Post by: note on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:36:42
Post by: Jocelyn on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:39:53
Post by: regack on Mon, 10 March 2014, 13:48:17
Post by: Tabrin on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:12:59
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:22:38
Post by: strict on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:32:15
Post by: AlexJP on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:35:51
Post by: xauser on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:38:52
Post by: tinco on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:44:40
I totally forgot I participated in this group buy :eek:, suddenly a paypal invoice from some IvanIvanovich in my mailbox, I thought I was being scammed :P
I even bought a different PBT set in between :P
Now reading through the thread I get why I was excited about this. I'll see if it looks prettier than my current set, or perhaps I'll see what people on ebay would pay for it :)
Post by: itsaferbie on Mon, 10 March 2014, 14:53:31
Post by: o3okevin on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:11:35
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:30:47
Post by: t2russo on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:31:19
Post by: note on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:46:12
Generally I give 7-10 day to make payment. If everything is paid sooner, I can pay production sooner... production starts sooner... you get them sooner...
Sweet! Thanks Ivan!
Post by: ynrozturk on Mon, 10 March 2014, 15:46:51
Generally I give 7-10 day to make payment. If everything is paid sooner, I can pay production sooner... production starts sooner... you get them sooner...
Okay good to know. I get paid on the 17th so that's when I will be able to make my payment. Sorry for the delay, but I will work it out. Just thought I'd let you know.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:00:28
Post by: Vibex on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:13:13
Post by: Ridillz on Mon, 10 March 2014, 16:36:53
Post by: Galactic on Mon, 10 March 2014, 17:03:49
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 March 2014, 17:04:35
How long to pay these invoices Ivan?
Generally I give 7-10 day to make payment. If everything is paid sooner, I can pay production sooner... production starts sooner... you get them sooner...
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 10 March 2014, 17:39:53
Love you Ivan. :-*
Post by: DarkShot on Mon, 10 March 2014, 18:10:27
Post by: Psybin on Mon, 10 March 2014, 18:11:45
Then I checked the thread (first time in a while) and saw the add on pack with the windows =(
PM sent to add the pack.. sorry.
Post by: geogga on Mon, 10 March 2014, 18:41:29
Post by: Lu_e on Mon, 10 March 2014, 19:38:29
So we have about 6 hours left, gotta make my decision since i forgot all about this
6 hrs for what? the buy closed on the first...
Paid my invoice 8-)
Post by: Noko on Mon, 10 March 2014, 19:43:14
Post by: naasfu on Mon, 10 March 2014, 19:49:09
Post by: calavera on Mon, 10 March 2014, 20:11:17
Post by: geogga on Mon, 10 March 2014, 20:45:02
To pay the invoice...So we have about 6 hours left, gotta make my decision since i forgot all about this
6 hrs for what? the buy closed on the first...
Paid my invoice 8-)
Post by: note on Mon, 10 March 2014, 20:51:02
Before I pay invoice, what's going on the the standard pack? Do we get a separate invoice for that later?
I think the quota for minimum order wasn't met.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 March 2014, 20:55:18
To pay the invoice...So we have about 6 hours left, gotta make my decision since i forgot all about this
6 hrs for what? the buy closed on the first...
Paid my invoice 8-)
Ivan said 7-10 days.
Post by: Lu_e on Mon, 10 March 2014, 21:34:12
Before I pay invoice, what's going on the the standard pack? Do we get a separate invoice for that later?
Sounds like it;
I only started invoice... finished through username start a-j only. I will only be invoicing for full set orders. Smaller packs to be invoiced later if applicable.
Orders will be declared to $10, unless insurance is requested.
Post by: Schwarz on Mon, 10 March 2014, 21:46:58
One step closer to that delicious pbt set. Thanks Ivan.
Post by: LemSkee on Mon, 10 March 2014, 22:28:02
Post by: neunelfer on Mon, 10 March 2014, 22:31:59
To pay the invoice...So we have about 6 hours left, gotta make my decision since i forgot all about this
6 hrs for what? the buy closed on the first...
Paid my invoice 8-)
Make a decision on what? I thought by joining you agree to pay.
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Mon, 10 March 2014, 23:18:45
Post by: pr1me on Tue, 11 March 2014, 00:33:15
Post by: GeeNDL82 on Tue, 11 March 2014, 00:41:16
please cancel my invoice, number #1044.
Thank you
Post by: wilflare on Tue, 11 March 2014, 00:57:50
thanks for your help with this Ivan!
Post by: n7 on Tue, 11 March 2014, 05:03:15
Post by: Galactic on Tue, 11 March 2014, 07:17:26
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 11 March 2014, 07:24:26
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 11 March 2014, 07:48:12
Post by: chromeeye on Tue, 11 March 2014, 07:49:55
I ordered a full set at 27/02/2014. but I've not gotten invoices yet.
Was my order accepted? Please resend my invoice if I'm on the list.
Post by: phillyd on Tue, 11 March 2014, 08:26:06
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 11 March 2014, 08:47:58
Post by: Shinryuu on Tue, 11 March 2014, 10:32:58
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 11 March 2014, 12:07:59
If you absolutely must cancel the order, you can simply choose cancel on your paypal invoice. This notifies me of the cancellation and neither you or I have to take any additional steps.
Add on GMK packs must make the MOQ before they are invoiced. If that happens you will receive another invoice for those items at a later time.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 11 March 2014, 12:36:54
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 March 2014, 12:44:08
Is the GMK add on going to be produced? If so, any chance to get into the GB for one addon set?. I know I am very late, but jusk asking.
One post above your post he said the GMK pack must make MOQ, so far it has not.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:09:28
Is the GMK add on going to be produced? If so, any chance to get into the GB for one addon set?. I know I am very late, but jusk asking.
One post above your post he said the GMK pack must make MOQ, so far it has not.
it was what I thought, sorry for not reading carefully. At work my boss has begun to suspect that I am not working while I am writing in this window with emoticons at the top. :D
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:13:28
Is the GMK add on going to be produced? If so, any chance to get into the GB for one addon set?. I know I am very late, but jusk asking.
One post above your post he said the GMK pack must make MOQ, so far it has not.
it was what I thought, sorry for not reading carefully. At work my boss has begun to suspect that I am not working while I am writing in this window with emoticons at the top. :D
:eek:
Post by: chromeeye on Tue, 11 March 2014, 13:51:13
Post by: Snooter on Tue, 11 March 2014, 14:05:20
Post by: atlas3686 on Tue, 11 March 2014, 14:06:14
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 11 March 2014, 15:55:18
Post by: eddie on Tue, 11 March 2014, 16:46:03
Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 11 March 2014, 16:50:50
Just to be clear - I got the blank black ones right?
Post by: Loligagger on Tue, 11 March 2014, 16:52:53
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 11 March 2014, 18:43:17
Just paid! I can't wait to get these things!
Just to be clear - I got the blank black ones right?
If you log into the paypal main site it should say on your invoice. Also blanks came to a total of $64.xx I think...
Hey Ivan, these will have home row 'lines' like the Choc Mini right?
Post by: Rewind on Tue, 11 March 2014, 19:44:49
Post by: calavera on Tue, 11 March 2014, 22:37:10
Post by: patthebaker17 on Tue, 11 March 2014, 23:03:17
i cannot stand my smooth abs caps
hopefully this will look sick with white backlighting
Post by: Veteranos on Wed, 12 March 2014, 06:36:36
Thanks Ivan :thumb:
Post by: Galactic on Wed, 12 March 2014, 08:01:12
Post by: neunelfer on Wed, 12 March 2014, 09:36:41
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 12 March 2014, 11:08:01
Post by: KennyR on Thu, 13 March 2014, 03:01:57
Thank you IvanIvanovich for organising this GB! :thumb:
Post by: noons on Thu, 13 March 2014, 08:07:49
Post by: catbuster on Thu, 13 March 2014, 10:51:07
Post by: HendyZone on Thu, 13 March 2014, 12:36:28
Thanks and sorry for the delay
Post by: cmadrid on Thu, 13 March 2014, 14:59:15
Post by: n0rvig on Thu, 13 March 2014, 15:09:58
Post by: bazh on Fri, 14 March 2014, 01:30:44
Post by: lakiozoon on Fri, 14 March 2014, 03:56:08
If not, will you be organizing similar (black thick pbt caps) group buy in the near future?
Regards!
Post by: bueller on Fri, 14 March 2014, 05:32:37
Post by: phoenix1234 on Fri, 14 March 2014, 05:34:39
I'll pay the invoice in next week, sorry but the money comes a little late :(
Don't worry, I can pay it for you, freely.
Wait, but then I will take them all :p
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 14 March 2014, 05:38:36
Unfortunately I'm going to have to pull out of this now, found myself without a job today.
Sorry to hear that!
I hope you find something else soon :thumb:
@ Ivan:
If this is a problem I could cover that order and add something to mine.
Post by: Veteranos on Fri, 14 March 2014, 06:12:10
Post by: tbc on Fri, 14 March 2014, 06:17:40
Post by: bazh on Fri, 14 March 2014, 06:48:01
I'll pay the invoice in next week, sorry but the money comes a little late :(
Don't worry, I can pay it for you, freely.
Wait, but then I will take them all :p
Then I'll wait and rob from you :))
Post by: boost on Fri, 14 March 2014, 08:23:11
Post by: mizzack on Fri, 14 March 2014, 08:40:22
Post by: lakiozoon on Fri, 14 March 2014, 11:29:26
Thanks Ivan!
Invoice paid,
Regards!
Post by: mizzack on Fri, 14 March 2014, 13:24:36
Post by: calavera on Fri, 14 March 2014, 23:52:02
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 15 March 2014, 08:00:15
Post by: Six on Sat, 15 March 2014, 11:58:11
Post by: citanest on Sat, 15 March 2014, 20:34:10
Post by: hipsterman on Sun, 16 March 2014, 19:32:52
Post by: catbuster on Mon, 17 March 2014, 16:00:13
Post by: tutuling on Tue, 18 March 2014, 13:52:40
Post by: Vibex on Tue, 18 March 2014, 14:05:38
Post by: ynrozturk on Tue, 18 March 2014, 14:22:02
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 18 March 2014, 14:53:08
Gimme like a couple days
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 18 March 2014, 18:01:34
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 18 March 2014, 18:04:31
Post by: Ound on Wed, 19 March 2014, 03:45:07
Post by: calavera on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:26:14
Post by: HendyZone on Wed, 19 March 2014, 09:45:28
Post by: cookiesowns on Wed, 19 March 2014, 10:14:34
Sorry for the delays. Been out of town. I'll get the invoice paid ASAP. The Addon pack is included in my invoice correct?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 19 March 2014, 10:17:53
There will likely be quite a few sets that will need to be picked up. There have been a LOT of cancellations for this buy, even more so than what I expected. I am kind of surprised about it since you can't get sets like these from anywhere else. Anyway, I will post what needs to be picked up in a few more days.
Post by: yakitysax on Wed, 19 March 2014, 13:25:29
Post by: jmw on Wed, 19 March 2014, 13:38:19
Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 19 March 2014, 20:44:21
Post by: elenhendi on Thu, 20 March 2014, 03:16:22
Post by: CriticalHit on Thu, 20 March 2014, 03:35:53
Post by: j0hnny on Thu, 20 March 2014, 05:36:23
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 20 March 2014, 05:40:57
Paid earlier today at work. what do we do now?
Now we wait.
Post by: Strike on Thu, 20 March 2014, 07:03:44
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 20 March 2014, 11:46:46
Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 20 March 2014, 15:00:25
We still have 52! unpaid orders. Please pay your invoices.
I paid! I paid!
(Late, but I paid...) :-[
Post by: Ound on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:01:48
Post by: Michael on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:21:18
(http://i.imgur.com/7kIpHbV.jpg)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:45:22
Post by: Vibex on Thu, 20 March 2014, 19:58:21
We still have 52! unpaid orders. Please pay your invoices.52, god damn. If I had some money I'd help you out and pick up a few of the extras. Still might, but I just bought a bunch of keycaps and a new hard drive. If there are still a ton left after my next paycheck comes though, I'll pick some up. Also there should be some way to hold people accountable for not going through on group buys. It's really a **** move. You should only promise to pay if you actually can.
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:35:21
Post by: naasfu on Thu, 20 March 2014, 20:51:50
Please don't leave Ivan and the rest of your fellow GHers hanging. These are going to be some great keysets. If you really can't afford to hold onto them, I'm sure they'll be easy to resell in Classifieds.
Post by: familynight on Thu, 20 March 2014, 22:44:47
Post by: phantomz on Thu, 20 March 2014, 23:36:25
Thanks Ivan for setting up this group buy. I can't wait.
Post by: tbc on Fri, 21 March 2014, 00:23:43
Post by: Pacifist on Fri, 21 March 2014, 00:29:51
Now the paypal's empty :'(
But I do have plenty of **** at my house that I will sell if I can't get the money by the deadline ;D
Post by: Ridillz on Fri, 21 March 2014, 02:12:59
Post by: tbc on Fri, 21 March 2014, 02:32:03
I don't even have a post count and I payed mine the day I got the email. I've never done a group buy, I just assumed when someone signs up for something like this they have the money to hand and set it aside. I guess not.
that's what I do. From what I've seen, most people are pretty good for things usually. but this particular GB is pretty harsh... 50 or > 1/6 of orders is pretty extreme.
Post by: Shinryuu on Fri, 21 March 2014, 05:53:21
Post by: user 18 on Fri, 21 March 2014, 06:44:45
Post by: neunelfer on Fri, 21 March 2014, 08:07:52
When I ordered, I had plenty of cash :p
Now the paypal's empty :'(
But I do have plenty of **** at my house that I will sell if I can't get the money by the deadline ;D
The deadline was a few days after invoicing...at this point anyone who hasn't paid is just delaying the entire process for everyone who paid in a timely manner.
Post by: lolkey on Fri, 21 March 2014, 10:22:26
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 21 March 2014, 12:41:09
Post by: citanest on Fri, 21 March 2014, 12:45:42
Post by: citanest on Fri, 21 March 2014, 12:46:05
Post by: cookiesowns on Fri, 21 March 2014, 12:51:25
I sent out final notices. I hope most people will take care of things... if not I suppose orders will have to reopen as I certainly can't swing so many sets myself.
Sorry about that, invoice paid!
Post by: kaiyul on Fri, 21 March 2014, 13:37:34
I sent out final notices. I hope most people will take care of things... if not I suppose orders will have to reopen as I certainly can't swing so many sets myself.
Sorry about the delay. I didn't recognize your username from the initial email and since it didn't contain anything in the email/invoice regarding the PBT keycaps, I had totally passed over it.
I received another email this morning with reference to the PBT keycaps and it totally jogged my memory. Jumped on PayPal and send the money over. Once again, I'm sorry for the delay!
Post by: Nubbles on Fri, 21 March 2014, 14:01:39
Once again I'm sorry that this has gone so far, but I was just following suit. People said to order even if you were unsure because you could cancel later, so that's what I did. I don't know if there was something more I was supposed to do to cancel or anything, but it's evident there was some confusion somewhere, which sucks for everyone unfortunately.
Because of the situation with so many unpaid orders, I'm consider buying my set anyway. I'd rather not leave this in such a bad situation, but I haven't been intending on purchasing this for a while now.
Post by: Furobins on Fri, 21 March 2014, 15:38:07
Post by: user 18 on Fri, 21 March 2014, 15:42:23
Post by: ynrozturk on Fri, 21 March 2014, 19:53:11
Sorry guys.
Post by: Keytrun on Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:16:47
How many more people need to pay before this thing can go to production?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 22 March 2014, 12:49:17
Post by: Vibex on Sat, 22 March 2014, 13:19:59
I'll need to take some time to get everything checked on paid orders and take away those that have cancelled to get a proper total... but at a quick glance I guess orders will need to reopen for a little bit as we are at least 40 sets short now. I have a vendor that has expressed some interest in possibly taking care of half that so fingers crossed we can get back to MOQ again fairly quick as not to cause a long delay for those that paid promptly.Sorry it had to come to this. Like I said before, I might be able to grab a second when my next pay check comes.
Post by: whiteduck on Sat, 22 March 2014, 15:30:32
Post by: fknraiden on Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:44:28
Post by: FreeCopy on Sun, 23 March 2014, 17:09:36
I'll need to take some time to get everything checked on paid orders and take away those that have cancelled to get a proper total... but at a quick glance I guess orders will need to reopen for a little bit as we are at least 40 sets short now. I have a vendor that has expressed some interest in possibly taking care of half that so fingers crossed we can get back to MOQ again fairly quick as not to cause a long delay for those that paid promptly.
If available I can pick up a set of cherry black on black dyesub and can pay immediately.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:00:08
email address, real name and physical mailing address (if you are outside the US a telephone number for the customs form) and what you would like.
example:
ivanivanovich@mail.su
Ivan Ivanovich
Kremlin
Moscow, Russia, 103073
+7 495 695-37-76
1 blank set
Thanks.
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:08:23
For those interested in picking up full sets please PM to me with the following:
email address, real name and physical mailing address (if you are outside the US a telephone number for the customs form) and what you would like.
example:
ivanivanovich@mail.su
Ivan Ivanovich
Kremlin
Moscow, Russia, 103073
+7 495 695-37-76
1 blank set
Thanks.
Is this for people who haven't already ordered?
I already paid my invoice. Do I need to send information again?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:09:41
If you have already paid your order and do not want anything additional you do not need to do anything further.
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 24 March 2014, 12:12:23
Only applies to new orders to pick up unpaid/cancelled orders so we can return to MOQ.
If you have already paid your order and do not want anything additional you do not need to do anything further.
Do you have an estimate of how far off we are? I'll probably pick up a couple sets of blanks.
Post by: FreeCopy on Mon, 24 March 2014, 13:40:42
For those interested in picking up full sets please PM to me with the following:
email address, real name and physical mailing address (if you are outside the US a telephone number for the customs form) and what you would like.
example:
ivanivanovich@mail.su
Ivan Ivanovich
Kremlin
Moscow, Russia, 103073
+7 495 695-37-76
1 blank set
Thanks.
That was fast. PMed, invoiced, paid.
Thanks, Ivan!
Post by: lolkey on Tue, 25 March 2014, 05:15:34
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 25 March 2014, 09:19:46
Anyone order a blank set? How much did it come to shipped to the US?
I was invoiced a total of $64.48 for shipping to Chicago. 55 (blanks) + 3 (GB fee) + 4 (S&H) + 2.48 (PayPal fee)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 25 March 2014, 10:26:03
Post by: GSimon on Tue, 25 March 2014, 13:05:18
Kind of wish I added the ergodox layout, if you want to re-invoice me with that one included I'll pay for it also.
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 25 March 2014, 13:11:04
Invoice received and paid!
Kind of wish I added the ergodox layout, if you want to re-invoice me with that one included I'll pay for it also.
I do not believe the ergodox is available as it did not meet the MOQ.
Post by: 1cubesolver on Tue, 25 March 2014, 13:11:51
Post by: n7 on Tue, 25 March 2014, 14:13:07
Post by: GSimon on Tue, 25 March 2014, 17:11:54
Invoice received and paid!
Kind of wish I added the ergodox layout, if you want to re-invoice me with that one included I'll pay for it also.
I do not believe the ergodox is available as it did not meet the MOQ.
Oh ok, probably for the best as I seem to be on an spending spree.
Post by: wthefourth on Tue, 25 March 2014, 18:33:11
Post by: chromeeye on Tue, 25 March 2014, 18:35:58
Post by: Kfactork on Tue, 25 March 2014, 21:19:19
Anyone order a blank set? How much did it come to shipped to the US?
My shipping was only $5. $3 GB and 4% fee ppf though, so around $10 in fess if you are going for one set.
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:40:20
I might be interested :)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:42:14
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 14:44:03
Any style. MOQ is for total sets so it doesn't matter which ones at all as long as it's 300 all together.Okay, let me think about this, I might be down for blank :thumb:
Post by: Jakreem on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:09:17
Thanks for setting this up Ivan!
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 16:21:17
Post by: neunelfer on Wed, 26 March 2014, 17:06:47
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 26 March 2014, 17:49:37
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 27 March 2014, 02:36:13
I wish there was an option to buy a blank set and side print it in Russian.
From the OP: "For those interested in resell, if you order 20+ PBT set I will do set up for any other layout in any font you wish. In addition for 20+ set volume order the groupbuy fee is waived and you will get free uninsured shipping."
So you just have to order 20 or more sets (perhaps you can organise a mini GroupBuy for it?) and you can get it (assuming IMSTO can do the side printing) :D
I check this thread every day to see how it's progressing. I REALLY want these sets.
Post by: spearman on Thu, 27 March 2014, 03:46:51
A question about profiles: what is 'Cherry Profile' compatible with besides Cherry boards? For instance, I have a G80 that I plan to put these on; but would they also mount on a standard profile board with cherry stem, albeit at a lower profile? Or are they pretty much only usable on Cherry boards (eg G80, G81...)?
Post by: tbc on Thu, 27 March 2014, 04:09:31
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 27 March 2014, 06:37:10
Post by: sean4star on Fri, 28 March 2014, 13:58:38
Post by: Yslen on Fri, 28 March 2014, 14:33:46
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 28 March 2014, 16:05:01
Post by: sean4star on Fri, 28 March 2014, 16:53:10
Post by: minho on Fri, 28 March 2014, 18:15:41
Post by: Mooby on Sat, 29 March 2014, 06:39:11
We are currently 24 sets short to MOQ. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get back.
Is this only for the GMK addons or would it still be posible to order a black on black PBT set?
Post by: lakiozoon on Sat, 29 March 2014, 07:56:47
We are currently 24 sets short to MOQ. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get back.
Is this only for the GMK addons or would it still be posible to order a black on black PBT set?
It is possible to order black on black, PM Ivan and he'll send you an invoice.
Post by: Mooby on Sat, 29 March 2014, 11:58:29
We are currently 24 sets short to MOQ. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get back.
Is this only for the GMK addons or would it still be posible to order a black on black PBT set?
It is possible to order black on black, PM Ivan and he'll send you an invoice.
It was no problem to place an order. I was just irritated by the "orders closed" message in the op.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 29 March 2014, 12:12:25
Post by: minho on Sat, 29 March 2014, 16:50:06
Post by: Psybin on Sat, 29 March 2014, 17:06:36
This set is going on the CODE I ordered yesterday, will be so awesome.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 29 March 2014, 17:18:12
Post by: Sevas on Sun, 30 March 2014, 13:46:32
Post by: echo0 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 14:18:11
Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 30 March 2014, 14:28:09
Either way these things are going to be awesome but I just don't know what I want :-\
Post by: lakiozoon on Sun, 30 March 2014, 16:08:59
I'm still not sure my choice of blanks was the best idea, I need to decide...
Either way these things are going to be awesome but I just don't know what I want :-\
Get both:)
I've been thinking of setting blanks to modifier keys and regular ones on letters/numbers.
Still thinking....
Post by: naasfu on Sun, 30 March 2014, 16:11:52
I'm still not sure my choice of blanks was the best idea, I need to decide...
Either way these things are going to be awesome but I just don't know what I want :-\
Get both:)
I've been thinking of setting blanks to modifier keys and regular ones on letters/numbers.
Still thinking....
Yes, get both. :) A combo of both as lakiozoon suggested sounds like it would look good.
Post by: itsaferbie on Sun, 30 March 2014, 17:31:24
Post by: Lu_e on Mon, 31 March 2014, 18:00:49
Post by: TBone on Tue, 01 April 2014, 12:42:45
1) I still have to set up a paypal - I'll do that tonight. Will I have enough time to pay you in time?
3) About when do you think I can expect to get these?
Thanks, so much though man. This set is exactly what I've been looking for.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 01 April 2014, 12:49:19
Post by: TBone on Tue, 01 April 2014, 16:28:24
Post by: TBone on Wed, 02 April 2014, 14:15:31
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 02 April 2014, 17:04:57
Post by: Unknown01011010 on Thu, 03 April 2014, 10:41:27
Post by: RexxxBosworth on Fri, 04 April 2014, 04:44:54
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 04 April 2014, 06:38:01
Post by: bazh on Fri, 04 April 2014, 07:18:03
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 04 April 2014, 07:57:40
Post by: Ound on Fri, 04 April 2014, 08:11:10
Post by: atlas3686 on Fri, 04 April 2014, 08:22:53
Still need 10 more set ordered.
Come on guys just 10 more and these are awesome!
Post by: VileRocK on Fri, 04 April 2014, 15:31:25
Post by: CK Briefs on Fri, 04 April 2014, 15:40:17
I'm from the UK so would only be interested if I could get the ISO mods with the set. Does "GMK standard: 33/400" mean that only 33 others have ordered the ISO mods and they're not going to be produced?
Definitely not able to get any of the other sets, only the standard sets (ANSI) are going to be produced since they're much closer to MOQ. Sorry :P
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 04 April 2014, 16:30:12
Quote
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE - $75are awesome!!!
+1
Post by: CK Briefs on Fri, 04 April 2014, 16:34:24
...butQuoteAurebesh:DARKSIDE - $75are awesome!!!
+1
Those are part of the 300~ sets to be produced
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 04 April 2014, 16:39:27
...butQuoteAurebesh:DARKSIDE - $75are awesome!!!
+1
get a set (or 10) to help us get to MOQ! only need ~10 more orders as of this morning.
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 04 April 2014, 16:40:28
Those are part of the 300~ sets to be produced
Even better...(opens wallet, moths fly out)
Dern...
Looking forward to the Novelty Keycap GB coming up...
Go IVAN!!!
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 04 April 2014, 16:41:53
Those are part of the 300~ sets to be produced
Even better...(opens wallet, moths fly out)
Dern...
Looking forward to the Novelty Keycap GB coming up...
Go IVAN!!!
just use the company credit card....nobody will be the wiser!! :P
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 04 April 2014, 17:07:10
Post by: FreeCopy on Fri, 04 April 2014, 17:12:02
This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
I'd but a second set right now with that option, maybe two.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 04 April 2014, 19:12:53
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 04 April 2014, 19:40:24
Going to stick with the options already present though Alienese could be possible for next time if enough are interested.Aww yiss, I think they would look better on a classic beige or grey theme anyway.
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Fri, 04 April 2014, 20:38:34
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 04 April 2014, 21:01:29
This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
Post by: TBone on Fri, 04 April 2014, 21:04:05
Picked up two cancelled orders.:D Yay thanks, it will be totally worth it guys, just a few more!!!
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 04 April 2014, 21:07:09
I would gladly change it back if geekhack found a way to improve avatar image quality. I use the planet express logo on every other website and service but it just looks TERRIBLE on here. It is so crystal clear on OCN and it is depressing to look at on here.This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 04 April 2014, 21:12:12
I would gladly change it back if geekhack found a way to improve avatar image quality. I use the planet express logo on every other website and service but it just looks TERRIBLE on here. It is so crystal clear on OCN and it is depressing to look at on here.This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
Does it still compress if you "Specify avatar by URL"?
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 04 April 2014, 21:13:28
Yes, it does it no matter what. I have tried everything and it always looks terrible.I would gladly change it back if geekhack found a way to improve avatar image quality. I use the planet express logo on every other website and service but it just looks TERRIBLE on here. It is so crystal clear on OCN and it is depressing to look at on here.This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
Does it still compress if you "Specify avatar by URL"?
Post by: riotonthebay on Fri, 04 April 2014, 21:14:05
MoreI would gladly change it back if geekhack found a way to improve avatar image quality. I use the planet express logo on every other website and service but it just looks TERRIBLE on here. It is so crystal clear on OCN and it is depressing to look at on here.This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
Does it still compress if you "Specify avatar by URL"?
Yes, it does it no matter what. I have tried everything and it always looks terrible.
:(
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 04 April 2014, 21:20:24
Are we at MOQ yet? Hopefully we hit it before the end of next week.
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 04 April 2014, 21:21:51
Hopefully, we get ten more people to buy by the weekend.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 04 April 2014, 21:29:10
Yes, it does it no matter what. I have tried everything and it always looks terrible.I would gladly change it back if geekhack found a way to improve avatar image quality. I use the planet express logo on every other website and service but it just looks TERRIBLE on here. It is so crystal clear on OCN and it is depressing to look at on here.This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
Does it still compress if you "Specify avatar by URL"?
Sorry bro. I wish it didn't look poopy. Glad you changed it back though! :-*
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 04 April 2014, 21:43:43
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 04 April 2014, 21:45:53
:DYes, it does it no matter what. I have tried everything and it always looks terrible.I would gladly change it back if geekhack found a way to improve avatar image quality. I use the planet express logo on every other website and service but it just looks TERRIBLE on here. It is so crystal clear on OCN and it is depressing to look at on here.This should have had futurama alienese as a dyesub option :p
+1
Also, bummed you changed your avatar way back when. :p
Does it still compress if you "Specify avatar by URL"?
Sorry bro. I wish it didn't look poopy. Glad you changed it back though! :-*
Want a clear good scaling avatar? Use a .png!It is .png lol
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 04 April 2014, 22:39:48
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 04 April 2014, 22:41:17
Hehehee... now is it above 256x256? It looks fine for me in Firefox 31 viewed at 1440p anyway. If it was me I would delete the background color box though.it's 800x800 and clear backgrounds turn into solid black when used on GH.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 04 April 2014, 22:43:14
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 04 April 2014, 23:00:22
Strange... when I use transparent they stay as such.
Samesies. Confusing...
HPE, you know what you should do??
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 04 April 2014, 23:08:14
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 05 April 2014, 00:02:34
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 05 April 2014, 00:05:36
Use a better source (http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs25/i/2008/064/e/9/Planet_Express_Logo_by_Comrade_Max.png)? Problem solved.This is the image I want to use, I have it in various sizes, it doesn't work :'(
http://imgur.com/a/7xxxT
That one turns black as well.
Post by: tbc on Sat, 05 April 2014, 00:45:33
Hehehee... now is it above 256x256? It looks fine for me in Firefox 31 viewed at 1440p anyway. If it was me I would delete the background color box though.it's 800x800 and clear backgrounds turn into solid black when used on GH.
what program are you using?
using adobe fire....something always worked for me when other programs failed.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 05 April 2014, 00:51:38
Looks fine here.
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Post by: ferociousfingerings on Sat, 05 April 2014, 23:56:30
Aurebesh:DARKSIDE - $75Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AN9czTH.jpg)
omfg that is awesome. I'm just now discovering the potential existence of this.
both because star wars, and because black on black.
It almost makes me want to install swtor again... (but i had actually been considering it anyway, if only for the 7 class stories i never finished)
Post by: wilflare on Sun, 06 April 2014, 06:55:05
it's gonna be a long wait :X
Post by: t2russo on Sun, 06 April 2014, 13:19:33
This has been a slight test of patience but compared to Originative this wait for Cherry black on black is nothing. I'm still debating getting one more set of dyesub to make dyesub Dolch....
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 06 April 2014, 14:40:34
Post by: TBone on Sun, 06 April 2014, 16:03:07
Still need 10 more order. If I could afford to take more orders myself for post sale I would.
I'd pick up another set if it guaranteed the order would go through, but I feel like I'd have to wait just as long.
Also, how is it still 10? Did more people cancel?
Post by: dannyp on Sun, 06 April 2014, 16:45:11
Post by: Spoot on Sun, 06 April 2014, 19:24:20
Post by: echo0 on Sun, 06 April 2014, 20:51:21
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Mon, 07 April 2014, 06:03:26
Post by: strict on Mon, 07 April 2014, 07:15:25
So how many short are we here? It was 10 short last week when I ordered, it's 10 this week and 2 people yesterday ordered. Rumor has it last month we were still 10 short. Can we stop saying 10 and use the real number so we can actually push to get this to production?
Dude, chill out. Ivan is as legit as they come. If he says 10 then he means 10.
Post by: atlas3686 on Mon, 07 April 2014, 07:35:41
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 07 April 2014, 07:52:06
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 07 April 2014, 09:46:04
Post by: weilung on Mon, 07 April 2014, 09:50:39
if its reasonable imo, i might get 4-5 sets to mark up and sell here. but if it's not reasonable I'll just skip.. let me know?
FYI, never knew black on black could be so sexy. <3
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 07 April 2014, 09:51:40
Even though people have placed orders I have not been counting them until they go to paid status. Assuming the few people that placed their orders over the last couple days pay them shortly our goal will now be met. For anyone that has been on the fence about placing an order today is the last day I will take any new orders.
(http://i.imgur.com/uLj0u.gif)
Post by: user 18 on Mon, 07 April 2014, 10:06:25
was directed here from reddit and.... you need 10 more orders right? MIGHT be interested, dependent on how much shipping to malaysia would be.
if its reasonable imo, i might get 4-5 sets to mark up and sell here. but if it's not reasonable I'll just skip.. let me know?
FYI, never knew black on black could be so sexy. <3
I'd send Ivan a PM if I were you, just to be sure he gets in touch with you. I sent him a PM about shipping, and he was very quick about getting back to me.
Post by: bazh on Mon, 07 April 2014, 10:41:29
was directed here from reddit and.... you need 10 more orders right? MIGHT be interested, dependent on how much shipping to malaysia would be.Just shoot him a pm
if its reasonable imo, i might get 4-5 sets to mark up and sell here. but if it's not reasonable I'll just skip.. let me know?
FYI, never knew black on black could be so sexy. <3
Post by: Latin00032 on Mon, 07 April 2014, 11:47:49
was directed here from reddit and.... you need 10 more orders right? MIGHT be interested, dependent on how much shipping to malaysia would be.
if its reasonable imo, i might get 4-5 sets to mark up and sell here. but if it's not reasonable I'll just skip.. let me know?
FYI, never knew black on black could be so sexy. <3
Always bet on "black on black".
This is the last day.
PM Ivan soon.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Mon, 07 April 2014, 17:21:01
Even though people have placed orders I have not been counting them until they go to paid status. Assuming the few people that placed their orders over the last couple days pay them shortly our goal will now be met. For anyone that has been on the fence about placing an order today is the last day I will take any new orders.
AW YEAH!! If you're a couple short to get it to production I am more than willing to send payment for 2 or 3 more, please let me know.
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 07 April 2014, 17:39:56
Post by: Ound on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:16:42
Post by: t2russo on Tue, 08 April 2014, 13:03:23
Post by: user 18 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 13:11:01
Post by: strict on Tue, 08 April 2014, 14:11:13
Hooray for this set finally going to production. It's been a long journey for some here (myself not included) Excited for both my first PBT set and my first set of blanks. I just hope PBT doesn't spoil all the ABS sets I've shelled out for already for me :P
This GB is what I created my GH account for back in Nov 2013! Im beyond excited for this set to finally go to production!
Post by: catbuster on Tue, 08 April 2014, 14:33:02
Post by: Veteranos on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:06:58
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:26:06
Gratz everyone on the reached MOQ, so the wait begins!
When did Ivan say we reached MOQ?
Post by: t2russo on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:46:11
Gratz everyone on the reached MOQ, so the wait begins!
When did Ivan say we reached MOQ?
Edited the first post
Post by: Candyflip on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:50:27
In the OPGratz everyone on the reached MOQ, so the wait begins!
When did Ivan say we reached MOQ?
Post by: HPE1000 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 15:59:51
I cannot wait, thank you ivan.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 08 April 2014, 16:18:10
I know this buy was a long road and thanks to all of you that stuck with it.
Post by: Kfactork on Tue, 08 April 2014, 16:21:17
Yes now we are all ready to go as soon as I have all the final info from PLUM. I will keep you all updated when I know definite time table for production and etc.That feel...
I know this buy was a long road and thanks to all of you that stuck with it.
Thanks Ivan for all your efforts :thumb:
Post by: atlas3686 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 16:23:54
Yes now we are all ready to go as soon as I have all the final info from PLUM. I will keep you all updated when I know definite time table for production and etc.
I know this buy was a long road and thanks to all of you that stuck with it.
Thank you for all the effort :thumb:
Post by: lakiozoon on Tue, 08 April 2014, 16:33:28
Post by: Mooby on Tue, 08 April 2014, 16:52:08
Are there news regarding the 4 extra keys?
Post by: Rewind on Tue, 08 April 2014, 17:03:18
Yes now we are all ready to go as soon as I have all the final info from PLUM. I will keep you all updated when I know definite time table for production and etc.u da man, man
I know this buy was a long road and thanks to all of you that stuck with it.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 08 April 2014, 17:33:48
Post by: FreeCopy on Tue, 08 April 2014, 17:35:42
Post by: user 18 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 17:40:33
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 08 April 2014, 18:11:31
Yes now we are all ready to go as soon as I have all the final info from PLUM. I will keep you all updated when I know definite time table for production and etc.
I know this buy was a long road and thanks to all of you that stuck with it.
Yay!
Post by: bazh on Tue, 08 April 2014, 22:35:45
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 09 April 2014, 01:27:42
Post by: atlas3686 on Wed, 09 April 2014, 01:46:33
Also throwing in my vote for the 108s, although I would be fine with just 104s. Wouldn't mind paying an extra dollar or two if that's what it comes down to.
Feel the same way.
Post by: mljs54 on Wed, 09 April 2014, 08:50:06
Thanks.
Post by: domoaligato on Wed, 09 April 2014, 10:31:38
Post by: CriticalHit on Wed, 09 April 2014, 10:37:18
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:15:06
Post by: strict on Wed, 09 April 2014, 12:33:59
I am trying to negotiate them to add the extra 4 keys at the same price point. While waiting to see how that goes imsto should have some sample keys from PLUM real soon to make sure it's the color we want and to check the dyesub goes well on them before the order is finaled.
If things go well with the sample keys I'm sure a lot of us would love to see some pictures of the finished product :)
Post by: TBone on Wed, 09 April 2014, 14:28:44
I am trying to negotiate them to add the extra 4 keys at the same price point. While waiting to see how that goes imsto should have some sample keys from PLUM real soon to make sure it's the color we want and to check the dyesub goes well on them before the order is finaled.
AHHH I'm so excited!!
(http://i.imgur.com/vwMin.gif)
Post by: fydo on Fri, 11 April 2014, 21:05:11
Super excited about this GB. Thanks again Ivan!
Post by: Lu_e on Mon, 14 April 2014, 23:33:51
Post by: ssdt on Tue, 15 April 2014, 07:07:48
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 15 April 2014, 07:31:15
Post by: catcradle5 on Thu, 17 April 2014, 18:56:58
Thanks.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 18 April 2014, 08:48:54
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 18 April 2014, 09:03:33
I still have not heard back regarding dyesub test yet.
Post by: pdkl55 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 13:11:12
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 18 April 2014, 13:34:38
So what's your next venture after this is all said and done, Ivan?
Post by: TBone on Fri, 18 April 2014, 13:54:01
I will get the entire order at once. How long it takes me to send out the individual orders will depend, but typically I get it done in 1-2 weeks after receive.
I still have not heard back regarding dyesub test yet.
Ahhh! :confused:
The wait is killing me, how long do you think until we see some keys? Does it normally take them this long to respond?
Post by: Lu_e on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:17:30
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:44:19
Wont the people who just got blanks get them a bit sooner?I hope :P
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 18 April 2014, 14:52:57
Wont the people who just got blanks get them a bit sooner?I hope :P
Me too but lets not get our hopes up!
Post by: t2russo on Fri, 18 April 2014, 17:58:41
Wont the people who just got blanks get them a bit sooner?
Hasn't been that way the previous 2 rounds, don't put too much into this.
Let Ivan handle this the way he has the past times and don't have unrealistic expectations. Expect 4-6 weeks at a minimum after Ivan gets the sample to verify the dyesubbing.
Check the previous groupbuy threads to see how progress and information was doled out, there is a track record to this and an established pattern.
You were warned about the wait prior to signing up. This is a GROUP buy. It is a purchase as a group and no one is a special snowflake. I expect my blank and my dyesubbed set to show up at the same time and with the same level of QC and handling for both.
There will be updates and QC and all that good stuff so we get a great product. I am not going to be expecting a rush just for impatience.
Patience is a virtue.
Post by: tbc on Fri, 18 April 2014, 18:01:58
Post by: Kfactork on Fri, 18 April 2014, 18:02:16
Hear hear. ^-^Wont the people who just got blanks get them a bit sooner?Hasn't been that way the previous 2 rounds, don't put too much into this.
Let Ivan handle this the way he has the past times and don't have unrealistic expectations. Expect 4-6 weeks at a minimum after Ivan gets the sample to verify the dyesubbing.
Check the previous groupbuy threads to see how progress and information was doled out, there is a track record to this and an established pattern.
You were warned about the wait prior to signing up. This is a GROUP buy. It is a purchase as a group and no one is a special snowflake. I expect my blank and my dyesubbed set to show up at the same time and with the same level of QC and handling for both.
There will be updates and QC and all that good stuff so we get a great product. I am not going to be expecting a rush just for impatience.
Patience is a virtue.
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 18 April 2014, 19:35:41
It was simply asked because the blank ones aren't going to need any dyesubbing, therefore that is one less step. The person didn't mean anything by it and surely wasn't looking for any special treatment. If in the past the blank shipped at the same time as the dyesubbed, okay, that is all they needed to know. No need to be so offended by a simple question.Wont the people who just got blanks get them a bit sooner?
Hasn't been that way the previous 2 rounds, don't put too much into this.
Let Ivan handle this the way he has the past times and don't have unrealistic expectations. Expect 4-6 weeks at a minimum after Ivan gets the sample to verify the dyesubbing.
Check the previous groupbuy threads to see how progress and information was doled out, there is a track record to this and an established pattern.
You were warned about the wait prior to signing up. This is a GROUP buy. It is a purchase as a group and no one is a special snowflake. I expect my blank and my dyesubbed set to show up at the same time and with the same level of QC and handling for both.
There will be updates and QC and all that good stuff so we get a great product. I am not going to be expecting a rush just for impatience.
Patience is a virtue.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sat, 19 April 2014, 07:29:32
Wont the people who just got blanks get them a bit sooner?
Hasn't been that way the previous 2 rounds, don't put too much into this.
Let Ivan handle this the way he has the past times and don't have unrealistic expectations. Expect 4-6 weeks at a minimum after Ivan gets the sample to verify the dyesubbing.
Check the previous groupbuy threads to see how progress and information was doled out, there is a track record to this and an established pattern.
You were warned about the wait prior to signing up. This is a GROUP buy. It is a purchase as a group and no one is a special snowflake. I expect my blank and my dyesubbed set to show up at the same time and with the same level of QC and handling for both.
There will be updates and QC and all that good stuff so we get a great product. I am not going to be expecting a rush just for impatience.
Patience is a virtue.
Yes, boss. Sorry, boss. It won't happen again, boss.
Post by: t2russo on Sat, 19 April 2014, 10:37:24
The last black on black dyesub (vortex) had issues with people and the dyesubbing, so butts were hurt and complaints were had about legibility. Originative's black otaku set got delayed because of color QC issues on the keys themselves.
The nicer, better point for me to make:
There are TWO steps to this process and places for it to get screwed up. To prevent a 50/50 "some people have keys and need stuff fixed, other people are ok" situation, it will be easier to keep things lumped together so that the party responsible for the keys at each step (PLUM at manufacturing, IMSTO at dyesubbing, IVAN at final distribution) has full accountability and say before things get moved on or rushed.
I hate waiting for things too. A LOT. This is one thing I'm definitely going to exercise my best patience on, since this is the FIRST black on black Cherry-thickness buy ever, and the FIRST winkey black Cherry-PBT buy probably in the history of keyboards (seriously, what keyboard came with these?).
MY personal attitude is that I need to be ok with waiting for these and letting the process run because A) I've seen almost identical buys run to completion and I have faith in the parties involved and B) This product should be so friggin good that it should be worth it despite the bumps in getting to MOQ already.
Black is guud. I shuld be nice and share black nicely. Sorry :(
Post by: strict on Sat, 19 April 2014, 10:51:41
I'm more than fine waiting for this process to take as absolutely long as needed. These keys should/will be amazing and amazing things take time.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 19 April 2014, 11:25:48
But yes you are exactly right. This is a first for many things. First time dealing with PLUM as a keycap source, first time of Cherry black PBTs, first time of imstos dyesub peeps dealing with dyesubbing on black... there will need to be extra checks to ensure everything comes out in the best way possible to avoid a big disappointment.
Shipping cost is also the exact reason I don't do splits on blank and printed as it makes no sense to pay shipping to me 2x. While I could do that, I would need to increase group buy fees to cover such thing.
Post by: wthefourth on Sun, 20 April 2014, 23:20:52
Thanks for being so thorough, Ivan! :)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 21 April 2014, 12:34:25
Post by: cphead on Mon, 21 April 2014, 12:45:57
The 4 extra top row keys will be included in each set. Obviously will also be blank on blank set, US set will have I - IV, US/RU will have some additional Soviet icons, Aurebesh will have some additional dark side icons.
Schweet. Great job Ivan :thumb: Now for the samples ..
Post by: wthefourth on Mon, 21 April 2014, 12:55:15
The 4 extra top row keys will be included in each set. Obviously will also be blank on blank set, US set will have I - IV, US/RU will have some additional Soviet icons, Aurebesh will have some additional dark side icons.I love you. :-*
Post by: Kfactork on Mon, 21 April 2014, 12:56:38
The 4 extra top row keys will be included in each set. Obviously will also be blank on blank set, US set will have I - IV, US/RU will have some additional Soviet icons, Aurebesh will have some additional dark side icons.Woohoo. This is cool.
Thanks Ivan!
Post by: TBone on Mon, 21 April 2014, 13:29:11
The 4 extra top row keys will be included in each set. Obviously will also be blank on blank set, US set will have I - IV, US/RU will have some additional Soviet icons, Aurebesh will have some additional dark side icons.
So glad I got in on this, it will look great on my Ducky Shine I multimedia keys. :thumb:
I always hated that sets never came with keys to change those!
Post by: Lu_e on Mon, 21 April 2014, 15:22:47
The thing i'm more worried about is these being equal thickness to IMSTO caps.... since at the time of signing up thats what I thought I was buying. Changing the manufacturer mid-buy has me a little uneasy. I realize I could have backed out when PLUM was mentioned (before final payment), but I still want as thick as possible cherry profile black pbt.
& like I said, if they're equal to IMSTO caps I will be happy.
Post by: TBone on Mon, 21 April 2014, 16:00:16
No big deal waiting.
The thing i'm more worried about is these being equal thickness to IMSTO caps.... since at the time of signing up thats what I thought I was buying. Changing the manufacturer mid-buy has me a little uneasy. I realize I could have backed out when PLUM was mentioned (before final payment), but I still want as thick as possible cherry profile black pbt.
& like I said, if they're equal to IMSTO caps I will be happy.
Wait what? Who is PLUM? This keyboard will not be PLUM layout, will it?
I cannot find anything (posts, classifieds) about PLUM keycaps, so that makes me a little uneasy... :-[
These are thick PBT right?
Post by: Lu_e on Mon, 21 April 2014, 16:02:18
Post by: TBone on Mon, 21 April 2014, 16:37:31
Yes PLUM manufactures keycaps, in this case standard layout, cherry profile, thick pbt keycaps.
Do you know of or have any examples of said key caps? What is the build quality like? Texture? How does it compare to IMSTO?
Post by: Lu_e on Mon, 21 April 2014, 16:40:29
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Mon, 21 April 2014, 17:21:29
Ivan?
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit worried now..
Post by: Kfactork on Mon, 21 April 2014, 17:25:42
Well that's news to me. All I've read is IMSTO, IMSTO, IMSTO, in these threads. Who the hell is PLUM?We switched over to PLUM as the manufacturer because imsto can't do something (forgot what it was); Ivan expects it to be the same thickness and quality so I don't worry much about it. We will see.
Ivan?
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit worried now..
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 21 April 2014, 17:32:11
Well that's news to me. All I've read is IMSTO, IMSTO, IMSTO, in these threads. Who the hell is PLUM?We switched over to PLUM as the manufacturer because imsto can't do something (forgot what it was); Ivan expects it to be the same thickness and quality so I don't worry much about it. We will see.
Ivan?
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit worried now..
PLUM's quality for the PBT is the same-- you still get cherry profile and dyesubbed with sharp corners. The reason we switched to PLUM was cause the MOQ for imsto is 400, whereas PLUM's was 300.
Post by: tbc on Mon, 21 April 2014, 17:32:49
Well that's news to me. All I've read is IMSTO, IMSTO, IMSTO, in these threads. Who the hell is PLUM?
Ivan?
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit worried now..
you're not going to be able to tell the difference.
one of the reasons we're going with PLUM because it has a lower MOQ.
basically, go with PLUM which is the same thing as IMSTO or get nothing at all.
EDIT:
ninja'd :(
Post by: Kfactork on Mon, 21 April 2014, 17:34:56
Post by: strict on Mon, 21 April 2014, 18:50:33
Post by: user 18 on Mon, 21 April 2014, 21:58:59
Plum is just the keycap source, the keys are still thick PBT, everything is the same just with a lower MOQ to have everything happen rather than not happen.
IMSTO was never in question, everything is still IMSTO, the caps are just from a different manufacturer. Everyone calm down :P
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:43:28
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 22 April 2014, 12:06:22
(http://coolgadgetsli.blog.com/files/2011/07/noppoo-choc-mini-84-usb-nkro-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-black-blue-18.jpg)
Just to confirm what other have responded, yes the keycap source was switch due to lower MOQ with Plum that was possible to reach. I felt switching from KBC was better option that not getting anything.
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 22 April 2014, 14:00:37
Yes please do not worry. You can be confident I would not go with some poor quality product. Plum make the Choc mini, and you can see it is some thick Cherry profile. From all I heard from Choc owner the keycap is good disregarding the lasering/pad printing which is irrelevant for us.Show Image(http://coolgadgetsli.blog.com/files/2011/07/noppoo-choc-mini-84-usb-nkro-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-black-blue-18.jpg)
Just to confirm what other have responded, yes the keycap source was switch due to lower MOQ with Plum that was possible to reach. I felt switching from KBC was better option that not getting anything.
I thought the Choc Mini came with POM key caps?
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 22 April 2014, 19:27:49
I think some of you guys already answered these questions the same as me. :))
But yes you are exactly right. This is a first for many things. First time dealing with PLUM as a keycap source, first time of Cherry black PBTs, first time of imstos dyesub peeps dealing with dyesubbing on black... there will need to be extra checks to ensure everything comes out in the best way possible to avoid a big disappointment.
Shipping cost is also the exact reason I don't do splits on blank and printed as it makes no sense to pay shipping to me 2x. While I could do that, I would need to increase group buy fees to cover such thing.
Yes please do not worry. You can be confident I would not go with some poor quality product. Plum make the Choc mini, and you can see it is some thick Cherry profile. From all I heard from Choc owner the keycap is good disregarding the lasering/pad printing which is irrelevant for us.Show Image(http://coolgadgetsli.blog.com/files/2011/07/noppoo-choc-mini-84-usb-nkro-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-black-blue-18.jpg)
Just to confirm what other have responded, yes the keycap source was switch due to lower MOQ with Plum that was possible to reach. I felt switching from KBC was better option that not getting anything.
I thought the Choc Mini came with POM key caps?
Quite possible, but more than likely irrelevant. We are getting cherry profile thick black blank PBT caps from PLUM who is confirmed to be a good manufacturer.
IMSTO has dudes to dyesub it for us.
Post by: bazh on Tue, 22 April 2014, 21:06:28
Yes please do not worry. You can be confident I would not go with some poor quality product. Plum make the Choc mini, and you can see it is some thick Cherry profile. From all I heard from Choc owner the keycap is good disregarding the lasering/pad printing which is irrelevant for us.Show Image(http://coolgadgetsli.blog.com/files/2011/07/noppoo-choc-mini-84-usb-nkro-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-black-blue-18.jpg)
Just to confirm what other have responded, yes the keycap source was switch due to lower MOQ with Plum that was possible to reach. I felt switching from KBC was better option that not getting anything.
Can you have a comfirmation about the F and J key, I remember some one not a long time ago told that the 2 keycaps were lower than the rest of the row :/
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 23 April 2014, 10:05:26
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Post by: dannyp on Wed, 23 April 2014, 10:19:43
Post by: nono0044 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 10:38:06
Hotlinking is off, but you can follow the link: http://i1.3conline.com/images/piclib/201201/04/batch/1/123632/1325674614422ssrhx4tn6e.jpg
That isn't quite working either.
Post by: TBone on Wed, 23 April 2014, 10:46:42
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 23 April 2014, 10:54:28
Post by: Lu_e on Wed, 23 April 2014, 12:26:50
Yes please do not worry. You can be confident I would not go with some poor quality product. Plum make the Choc mini, and you can see it is some thick Cherry profile. From all I heard from Choc owner the keycap is good disregarding the lasering/pad printing which is irrelevant for us.Show Image(http://coolgadgetsli.blog.com/files/2011/07/noppoo-choc-mini-84-usb-nkro-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-black-blue-18.jpg)
Just to confirm what other have responded, yes the keycap source was switch due to lower MOQ with Plum that was possible to reach. I felt switching from KBC was better option that not getting anything.
Plum may not be poor quality but they look slightly thinner to me... Guess we would need someone who owns a noppoo and a imsto/kbc set to be sure. Ugh, wish we coulda just gotten kbc caps
(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q603/magicmeatballs/Private/For%20Sale%20Stuff/DSC_0492_zps1f97e485.jpg)
Vs
(http://coolgadgetsli.blog.com/files/2011/07/noppoo-choc-mini-84-usb-nkro-mechanical-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown-black-blue-18.jpg)
Post by: t2russo on Wed, 23 April 2014, 12:53:34
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 23 April 2014, 12:59:20
I think someone who doesn't have both hand in hand shouldn't speculate. This is seeming kind of sensationalist over something you actually haven't seen for yourself?
Ditto, I think we should reserve judgement for when the samples come in at the very least.
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 13:03:44
Regardless, even if the caps are thinner, they are still thick PBT, and therefore thicker than most caps you come across. Even if they're only 90% as thick as you were expecting, is that not good enough?
I do agree that we shouldn't complain until we have someone to compare side by side, and see what the difference really is. It just doesn't seem as bad as it's being made out to be.
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 13:04:25
Post by: Yslen on Wed, 23 April 2014, 13:07:40
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 23 April 2014, 13:09:34
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Wed, 23 April 2014, 13:57:38
Thickness doesn't look any different to me in those pictures... You are comparing black parts to light blue parts, black is going to look a little smaller/thinner, plus the angles of the pictures on those plum pictures are far from ideal to tell in the first place.
I actually agree here. I even pulled off my KBC Poker 2 to get a first hand comparison with the pictures provided. The difference is negligible if at all. However like someone else said, we have to reserve judgement until we have someone who received the caps at the very least.
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 24 April 2014, 16:01:47
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 24 April 2014, 18:35:01
I have a KBT race which I believe has thick pbt. [they are definitely pbt] and some thick pbt from SP coming. I've never had GMK but if someone would ship me a key I could let you know the difference.
Thick PBT and SP don't belong in the same sentence, sorry friend.
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 25 April 2014, 01:44:40
I have a KBT race which I believe has thick pbt. [they are definitely pbt] and some thick pbt from SP coming. I've never had GMK but if someone would ship me a key I could let you know the difference.
Thick PBT and SP don't belong in the same sentence, sorry friend.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56354.msg1271903;topicseen#msg1271903
Sorry you missed it. :(
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 25 April 2014, 13:41:41
Post by: dannyp on Fri, 25 April 2014, 15:16:00
Post by: BeardedAx on Sun, 27 April 2014, 20:12:16
Post by: badugi on Mon, 28 April 2014, 01:26:19
Post by: t2russo on Mon, 28 April 2014, 02:12:02
so the people who paid as early as february/march are still waiting right?
You have reading to catch up on if you are expecting anything right now :)
Group buy, not a purchase of a pre-existing good. Order is still in the early stages of pre production since the first deadline had a bunch of drop-outs at payment.
Expect what, 4-6 weeks after approval of sample? Someone correct me if that figure seems off.
Post by: DarkShot on Mon, 28 April 2014, 04:39:21
I've been itching to find a black on black key set for my new board and I just can't find any I'm more interested in than this one. I'm a touch late to the party to get in on this deal but if any of you plan to sell yours keep me in mind! ;D
I put in for a set of blanks and a set of dyesub, so I might sell one or the other depending on which I like more.
Just keep your eyes open once all the sets have shipped, I'm sure there will be some who want to part with a set or two :D
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 28 April 2014, 05:30:47
I've been itching to find a black on black key set for my new board and I just can't find any I'm more interested in than this one. I'm a touch late to the party to get in on this deal but if any of you plan to sell yours keep me in mind! ;D
If you don't mind waiting at least a month for them, start looking in the Classifieds section once these ship. It'll still be a while (getting samples, starting production, getting the dyesub samples, printing, shipping, etc). I ordered 4 sets to help meet MOQ and may consider selling one of them.... or maybe not, depending how much I like them :)
Post by: Heezy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 08:47:35
Would really love one of those blank blacks. Let me know if you have any extra for sell!
I've been itching to find a black on black key set for my new board and I just can't find any I'm more interested in than this one. I'm a touch late to the party to get in on this deal but if any of you plan to sell yours keep me in mind! ;D
If you don't mind waiting at least a month for them, start looking in the Classifieds section once these ship. It'll still be a while (getting samples, starting production, getting the dyesub samples, printing, shipping, etc). I ordered 4 sets to help meet MOQ and may consider selling one of them.... or maybe not, depending how much I like them :)
Post by: KatzenKinder on Mon, 28 April 2014, 08:52:55
It's my first GB, so I didn't have all that great of an idea how long these things take in production, so I'll have graduated and left the current city I'm in.
How should I go about this?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 28 April 2014, 10:58:19
As far as timeline on production it is still not locked in. Still waiting for samples of 3-4 shades of 'black' to arrive to imsto for dyesub test. Once we know it's good they will need to fit the order into their production schedule. When I know, I will make an update.
Post by: lakiozoon on Mon, 28 April 2014, 12:15:22
Post by: Psybin on Mon, 28 April 2014, 18:20:11
Post by: user 18 on Mon, 28 April 2014, 19:00:16
Post by: BeardedAx on Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:09:13
I've been itching to find a black on black key set for my new board and I just can't find any I'm more interested in than this one. I'm a touch late to the party to get in on this deal but if any of you plan to sell yours keep me in mind! ;D
I put in for a set of blanks and a set of dyesub, so I might sell one or the other depending on which I like more.
Just keep your eyes open once all the sets have shipped, I'm sure there will be some who want to part with a set or two :D
If you don't mind waiting at least a month for them, start looking in the Classifieds section once these ship. It'll still be a while (getting samples, starting production, getting the dyesub samples, printing, shipping, etc). I ordered 4 sets to help meet MOQ and may consider selling one of them.... or maybe not, depending how much I like them :)
Thanks for the heads up Darkshot and Oobly! I was planning to keep an eye on this thread to see when they start shipping and an eye on the classifieds in case they get posted after that. Just wanted to get my name out there in case I get caught up in something when that time comes.
Post by: Heezy on Mon, 28 April 2014, 22:12:32
Do you have a picture of blanks by any chance?
I don't think there are any real set yet, just computer rendered one in first post.
Post by: Kfactork on Wed, 30 April 2014, 15:35:15
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Wed, 30 April 2014, 17:31:29
I have one set of blank potentially up for transfer if some one wants it :)
I'll take it if you'd like your $55 back.
Post by: Kfactork on Wed, 30 April 2014, 18:06:17
Well it comes out to $60 after fees and shipping. if you want it pm me.I have one set of blank potentially up for transfer if some one wants it :)
I'll take it if you'd like your $55 back.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 30 April 2014, 18:13:15
Post by: Kfactork on Wed, 30 April 2014, 18:28:45
If you two go through with that, be sure to PM Ivan.Yep sure will. Actually Ivan told me to do it this way for less hassle. Thanks for the heads up tactical!
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 01 May 2014, 17:24:39
Well it comes out to $60 after fees and shipping. if you want it pm me.I have one set of blank potentially up for transfer if some one wants it :)
I'll take it if you'd like your $55 back.
So you'll take $55 then?
Post by: Kfactork on Thu, 01 May 2014, 17:47:11
Sorry if I wasn't clear. The pp fee and shipping comes out to about $5 per set, so if you want to take my place I would need $60 sent to me.So you'll take $55 then?Well it comes out to $60 after fees and shipping. if you want it pm me.I have one set of blank potentially up for transfer if some one wants it :)
I'll take it if you'd like your $55 back.
You have just been one step too late though. The set has been picked up by someone else. Sorry about that :(
Post by: Heezy on Thu, 01 May 2014, 22:17:54
Post by: catcradle5 on Sat, 03 May 2014, 22:40:57
Post by: WinterIsle on Sun, 04 May 2014, 02:26:44
Also looking for a blank set, if anyone wants to sell theirs or sell their spot. Will pay $60-70.I have one blank set willing to let go, but it will be complicated to transfer my order to you since I joined total orders with a friend.
After I received the keysets then sell probably.
Post by: Heezy on Sun, 04 May 2014, 05:17:04
Let me know if anyone wants to transfer their order. Cheers!
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sun, 04 May 2014, 08:05:03
Post by: Furobins on Sun, 04 May 2014, 11:00:37
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 04 May 2014, 11:15:16
Post by: mljs54 on Sun, 04 May 2014, 12:44:04
Post by: Furobins on Sun, 04 May 2014, 16:07:03
Post by: cphead on Wed, 07 May 2014, 01:18:52
Edit: claimed :D
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 08 May 2014, 06:16:57
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 08 May 2014, 09:38:56
Post by: strict on Thu, 08 May 2014, 10:08:15
As I understand it, PLUM is still waiting for the particular PBT material (still for the sample run) to be delivered from Japan... same supplier as Topre uses. Apparently they are stupid slow, probably sent surface freight.
I didn't realize these would be made with the same plastic that Topre uses. That is awesome!
Post by: Yslen on Thu, 08 May 2014, 10:29:04
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 08 May 2014, 10:48:05
Post by: Yslen on Thu, 08 May 2014, 10:54:45
Post by: atlas3686 on Thu, 08 May 2014, 11:04:45
I would guess there is probably some variance, but I am not an expert about plastics. I think it was more that it was the easiest solution to get the material from the same supplier due to color is a regular stock item.
Wow that is great news, I was hoping they would match my realforce's keys perfectly!
Post by: gigibecali on Thu, 08 May 2014, 11:10:31
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 08 May 2014, 11:18:31
Post by: t2russo on Thu, 08 May 2014, 11:22:11
All of this. So good.
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 08 May 2014, 11:26:27
Starting PBT dyesubs novelty key singles and GMK Dolch full set+add ons this month.The CMY/RGB mod extras coming after that? :S
Post by: SL89 on Thu, 08 May 2014, 11:34:17
Post by: justnits on Thu, 08 May 2014, 12:14:53
Starting PBT dyesubs novelty key singles and GMK Dolch full set+add ons this month.
ivan...i don't know if i want to love you or hate you :-\
i think i go with both...
i love that you are doing gmk dolch full set but i hate it that you are doing it just when i'm low on cash this month :'(
how long will u plan to run the gb?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 08 May 2014, 12:56:22
I don't know when the CMY or RGB... it's not me.
I will probably have Dolch order and payment time to 1 month... then see if we are to MOQ and decide what to do if not.
Post by: acidtrip69 on Thu, 08 May 2014, 13:29:31
Starting PBT dyesubs novelty key singles and GMK Dolch full set+add ons this month.Yes i can't wait
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 08 May 2014, 15:32:02
Starting PBT dyesubs novelty key singles and GMK Dolch full set+add ons this month.
What! It's happening!! :)
The Dolch gb is going to crash GH.
Were there any samples done for the pbt black on black that you have pictures of?
Post by: zippox on Thu, 08 May 2014, 17:44:34
Were there any samples done for the pbt black on black that you have pictures of?
As I understand it, PLUM is still waiting for the particular PBT material (still for the sample run) to be delivered from Japan... same supplier as Topre uses. Apparently they are stupid slow, probably sent surface freight.
Seems the factory has not yet received materials. So no samples sent to Ivan yet.
Post by: SL89 on Fri, 09 May 2014, 09:36:45
Quote
Aurebesh wasn't super popular, just make to minimum.
That's a shame, but i guess its not a surprise.
Post by: Furobins on Sun, 11 May 2014, 10:47:26
Post by: cookiesowns on Tue, 13 May 2014, 02:03:01
Count me in, if so!
Post by: Oobly on Tue, 13 May 2014, 03:05:01
Wait, dolch as in this dolch? http://imgur.com/a/gewMG
Count me in, if so!
Yup, looks like Ivan will run a GB for that set (GMK Dolch, Cherry profile doubleshot) once this one is done. I think it will be rather popular. I know I'll be ordering at least one set (if it has a 1.75x right shift option).
Post by: zippox on Tue, 13 May 2014, 10:12:26
Post by: Razor Lotus on Tue, 13 May 2014, 13:20:45
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Post by: minho on Tue, 13 May 2014, 16:11:38
Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Post by: JaccoW on Tue, 13 May 2014, 17:10:35
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Post by: OnTheBrink on Tue, 13 May 2014, 17:25:01
Blank or Dye Sub, either or.
Post by: minho on Tue, 13 May 2014, 17:40:10
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
Post by: OnTheBrink on Tue, 13 May 2014, 19:37:19
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
I haven't gotten my hands on thick PBTs yet. I am eager to try them out as I hear great things and I can imagine I would love them considering I love my PBTs but wish they were thicker.
I also really like Cherry legends. I can see why people favor them. I am not too fond of the italicized legend from KBC Vortex's (I think) that I have.
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 13 May 2014, 19:40:40
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
I haven't gotten my hands on thick PBTs yet. I am eager to try them out as I hear great things and I can imagine I would love them considering I love my PBTs but wish they were thicker.
I also really like Cherry legends. I can see why people favor them. I am not too fond of the italicized legend from KBC Vortex's (I think) that I have.
Then get OG cherry dyesub and be eternally happy
Post by: minho on Tue, 13 May 2014, 19:58:18
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
I haven't gotten my hands on thick PBTs yet. I am eager to try them out as I hear great things and I can imagine I would love them considering I love my PBTs but wish they were thicker.
I also really like Cherry legends. I can see why people favor them. I am not too fond of the italicized legend from KBC Vortex's (I think) that I have.
Oh goodness, those were the 3rd ugliest legends I have ever seen. 1st would be the Deck keyboard legends, and 2nd would be the rest of the "gamer" style legends.
Their 2nd generation doubleshots have much nicer looking legends though.
Post by: bazh on Tue, 13 May 2014, 22:50:26
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
I haven't gotten my hands on thick PBTs yet. I am eager to try them out as I hear great things and I can imagine I would love them considering I love my PBTs but wish they were thicker.
I also really like Cherry legends. I can see why people favor them. I am not too fond of the italicized legend from KBC Vortex's (I think) that I have.
Oh goodness, those were the 3rd ugliest legends I have ever seen. 1st would be the Deck keyboard legends, and 2nd would be the rest of the "gamer" style legends.
Their 2nd generation doubleshots have much nicer looking legends though.
They're Cherry legends actually
Post by: minho on Wed, 14 May 2014, 16:38:03
Post by: Razor Lotus on Wed, 14 May 2014, 18:21:55
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
How were you able to tell the thickness of the keycaps just from the thicker font???
Post by: minho on Wed, 14 May 2014, 19:07:59
TaiHao is known to be thin because it's so cheap.
Post by: OnTheBrink on Wed, 14 May 2014, 20:57:09
Looks like the sets you can find on Taobao.Is the dolch gonna be like this???
http://dangwang.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/4.jpg
O.O
Ohhh my goodness. That looks heavenly.
Difference would be the GeekHack key (which may or may not come with it, I doubt it will though :()
and the Cherry legends. Notice that the font is thicker. Also the winkey and the right click key are different.
Additionally, they would sound and feel slightly different due to a much greater thickness, and most likely have different texture too (can't confirm the texture part).
I haven't gotten my hands on thick PBTs yet. I am eager to try them out as I hear great things and I can imagine I would love them considering I love my PBTs but wish they were thicker.
I also really like Cherry legends. I can see why people favor them. I am not too fond of the italicized legend from KBC Vortex's (I think) that I have.
Oh goodness, those were the 3rd ugliest legends I have ever seen. 1st would be the Deck keyboard legends, and 2nd would be the rest of the "gamer" style legends.
Their 2nd generation doubleshots have much nicer looking legends though.
Yeah :( I should have just gotten blanks.
This GB is over right? I'd like to pick up a set of blanks if anyone doesn't want their order anymore or purchased a bunch for resell.
Post by: bazh on Wed, 14 May 2014, 22:02:54
The 2nd generation ones? I don't have a picture of them right now and I'm on phone so I don't want to pull it up but iirc, they're centered right? Cherry ones are not.
they have it centered for backlitting purpose, tho it make them look fugly
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 20 May 2014, 08:35:49
Post by: zippox on Tue, 20 May 2014, 09:55:32
I've been informed the sample keys finally arrived at the dyesub place and will be placed in production queue for test run. I will update when I know more.
(http://www.1851project.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Uhoh5.gif)
Post by: two4teezee on Tue, 20 May 2014, 11:06:34
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 20 May 2014, 11:11:58
If anyone is selling their black on black (regular) set, PM me please. I'm looking to pick up that and the standard modifier kit.No one's getting a mod kit
It didn't hit moq
Post by: t2russo on Tue, 20 May 2014, 11:14:59
Post by: itsaferbie on Tue, 20 May 2014, 18:58:07
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Wed, 21 May 2014, 17:34:19
I assume we're through the worst of it now?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 21 May 2014, 18:12:20
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 23 May 2014, 15:33:49
Once samples approved... then I will find out the production timeline. Currently I am unsure. I'm sorry it will be taking much longer than I originally expected.
No problem, it's out of your hands until the box arrives. Thanks for keeping us updated:)
Post by: lolkey on Fri, 23 May 2014, 18:51:48
Post by: boost on Fri, 23 May 2014, 18:57:03
Are there any extras? I will buy a set of blanks.
This^^. Need another blank pbt set
Post by: nono0044 on Sat, 24 May 2014, 02:24:53
First group buy for me, how is an address change usually handled or done?
Post by: t2russo on Sat, 24 May 2014, 10:49:07
Post by: Furobins on Sat, 24 May 2014, 11:33:06
Post by: malu1989 on Sat, 24 May 2014, 15:36:55
if anyone doesn't want it's Black on Blacks, I'm interested.
Please PM me.
Post by: lolkey on Sun, 25 May 2014, 01:25:11
I still have a set of blanks available for transfer, PM me if interested
Sent PM.
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 25 May 2014, 01:43:45
but they might be really awesome and I might have to keep them. :p
Post by: x on Sun, 25 May 2014, 19:47:14
Post by: patrain on Fri, 30 May 2014, 07:56:28
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 30 May 2014, 08:09:22
I am in much need of the ergodox mod set. are you taking orders anytime in the future?
The MOQ wasn't met on the ergodox set so it's not getting produced. You could order the Ergo dox set for his other GB here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.0), but it doesn't look like that will meet MOQ either. :(
Post by: Acanthophis on Fri, 30 May 2014, 10:36:46
If somebody is interested, PM me and also let Ivan know.
Set is gone.
Post by: digiosia on Mon, 02 June 2014, 20:20:06
Post by: strict on Mon, 02 June 2014, 20:41:40
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 02 June 2014, 21:25:22
Post by: tmk1207 on Mon, 02 June 2014, 21:44:08
Post by: FingerPunch on Wed, 04 June 2014, 17:39:35
I found all the sets I need. Thank you everyone! :cool:
Post by: flux00 on Tue, 10 June 2014, 13:40:44
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 11 June 2014, 01:24:03
Post by: bueller on Wed, 11 June 2014, 01:36:15
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 12 June 2014, 10:11:31
If you're interested in EDOX kit please order in the Dolch groupbuy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.0)... it would have been essentially the same kit anyway as it was not enough orders to put in production at the time this buy ended.
Speaking of the Dolch GB, any idea how these (PLUM) keys will compare to GMK in terms of thickness, etc? Of course these are PBT vs GMK's ABS.
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 12 June 2014, 10:16:54
If you're interested in EDOX kit please order in the Dolch groupbuy (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58608.0)... it would have been essentially the same kit anyway as it was not enough orders to put in production at the time this buy ended.
Speaking of the Dolch GB, any idea how these (PLUM) keys will compare to GMK in terms of thickness, etc? Of course these are PBT vs GMK's ABS.
Thickness and profile will be identical, but as you mentioned it's ABS vs PBT.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 12 June 2014, 10:32:54
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 12 June 2014, 11:04:51
Post by: catbuster on Thu, 12 June 2014, 11:36:22
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 12 June 2014, 13:08:21
Currently it's still in the sampling stage. Yes I know STILL!!! The goal is to make sure we can get the caps as dark as is possible while still having the dyesub legends to be visible. It will take some effort in tuning that and to avoid big QA problems in production stage.
Post by: MsYutai on Thu, 12 June 2014, 14:29:02
I'm sorry it's taking longer than expected. There is more parts to this than in other keycap buys as we have separate parties to deal with for PBT material supplier which is located in Japan, PLUM in China to make that material into keys, then finally imsto elsewhere in China to do the dyesub work... all of which need to coordinate to make a product they have never dealt with producing before. I know people like things to move quickly, but I would much rather take longer to make sure a good product is delivered.
Currently it's still in the sampling stage. Yes I know STILL!!! The goal is to make sure we can get the caps as dark as is possible while still having the dyesub legends to be visible. It will take some effort in tuning that and to avoid big QA problems in production stage.
Sampling stage being...? PLUM making keycaps?
Sounds like it will be another 3 months at least @_@.
Post by: zippox on Thu, 12 June 2014, 15:10:38
I'm sorry it's taking longer than expected. There is more parts to this than in other keycap buys as we have separate parties to deal with for PBT material supplier which is located in Japan, PLUM in China to make that material into keys, then finally imsto elsewhere in China to do the dyesub work... all of which need to coordinate to make a product they have never dealt with producing before. I know people like things to move quickly, but I would much rather take longer to make sure a good product is delivered.
Currently it's still in the sampling stage. Yes I know STILL!!! The goal is to make sure we can get the caps as dark as is possible while still having the dyesub legends to be visible. It will take some effort in tuning that and to avoid big QA problems in production stage.
Makes sense to me. Thanks for the hard work you are putting into this. I'm sure it will be a great product.
Post by: TDub on Fri, 13 June 2014, 02:11:10
I know people like things to move quickly, but I would much rather take longer to make sure a good product is delivered.
The goal is to make sure we can get the caps as dark as is possible while still having the dyesub legends to be visible.
Couldn't agree more, this set has a shot at being something very unique that stands out, i would rather wait another 3 month and have it be epic than get it now and be mediocre. Thanks so much Ivan for putting in the work!
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 13 June 2014, 04:02:40
I know people like things to move quickly, but I would much rather take longer to make sure a good product is delivered.The goal is to make sure we can get the caps as dark as is possible while still having the dyesub legends to be visible.
Couldn't agree more, this set has a shot at being something very unique that stands out, i would rather wait another 3 month and have it be epic than get it now and be mediocre. Thanks so much Ivan for putting in the work!
^^This.
I don't mind if they take a long time (within reason, I'd like them by end of the year), I want them to be as good as they can be.
Post by: TBone on Fri, 13 June 2014, 12:51:29
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:24:44
Post by: user 18 on Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:31:20
In all seriousness, I'm just glad this is happening at all. Please keep us updated as things continue to evolve :)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:33:22
Post by: CK Briefs on Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:36:02
I try and update whenever I know anything. I hate it when buy organizers leave people hanging with no info.
This is why you're president :P
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 13 June 2014, 13:42:58
Post by: Veteranos on Fri, 13 June 2014, 15:10:19
I know people like things to move quickly, but I would much rather take longer to make sure a good product is delivered.
The goal is to make sure we can get the caps as dark as is possible while still having the dyesub legends to be visible. It will take some effort in tuning that and to avoid big QA problems in production stage.
What a cool guy you are Ivan! Thanks :)
Post by: ssdt on Fri, 13 June 2014, 15:52:43
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 14 June 2014, 11:40:30
Post by: minho on Sat, 14 June 2014, 11:55:41
Got a mini update. PLUM says the Japan PBT is 'too soft' and too prone to scratches and dents for their liking and they have deemed in unsuitable for their production process. They said they are going to get similar color from DuPont to try.
Darn more delays :(
Well at least they caught the errors before the keycaps were sent to us. Thanks for the update :)
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 15 June 2014, 17:08:00
It will be grand.
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 16 June 2014, 14:25:13
Post by: minho on Mon, 16 June 2014, 14:47:22
If anyone wants to take over my blank set order PM me.YGPM
Post by: badloop on Tue, 17 June 2014, 21:22:58
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 17 June 2014, 21:23:29
Did anyone order a "pack standard" that they maybe dont want? Looking to complete a partial PBT set...That pack didn't hit MOQ, so no one gets it
Post by: badloop on Tue, 17 June 2014, 21:24:36
Did anyone order a "pack standard" that they maybe dont want? Looking to complete a partial PBT set...That pack didn't hit MOQ, so no one gets it
D'awww... serves me right for not reading close enough. Thanks for the info!
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 19 June 2014, 17:43:30
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 19 June 2014, 18:59:09
Once again apologies for the much longer than anticipated time frame and thanks for your continued patience.
Post by: TBone on Thu, 19 June 2014, 21:16:54
It won't be that much long wait! From the sound of things currently it should be another week or so for them to make sure the new plastic material is good to go then hopefully we should finally be starting production phase relatively soon after. Worst case scenario based on current info these should be to you in September. Odds are it will be sooner than this, but I haven't gotten a locked in production slot yet.
Once again apologies for the much longer than anticipated time frame and thanks for your continued patience.
Thank you Based Ivan. ;D Can't wait!!!
Post by: CK Briefs on Thu, 19 June 2014, 21:27:59
It won't be that much long wait! From the sound of things currently it should be another week or so for them to make sure the new plastic material is good to go then hopefully we should finally be starting production phase relatively soon after. Worst case scenario based on current info these should be to you in September. Odds are it will be sooner than this, but I haven't gotten a locked in production slot yet.
Once again apologies for the much longer than anticipated time frame and thanks for your continued patience.
Alright, if you can keep up the constant updates as production starts, then I can see whether or not I need to give you my new address (moving in mid August)
Thanks for your effort, Ivan!
Post by: itsaferbie on Fri, 20 June 2014, 18:59:26
It won't be that much long wait! From the sound of things currently it should be another week or so for them to make sure the new plastic material is good to go then hopefully we should finally be starting production phase relatively soon after. Worst case scenario based on current info these should be to you in September. Odds are it will be sooner than this, but I haven't gotten a locked in production slot yet.
Once again apologies for the much longer than anticipated time frame and thanks for your continued patience.
This is great news! And as CK said, keep us up to date, since I may need to give you my new address as well, since I will be moving too.
Thanks again for this group buy!
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 21 June 2014, 06:56:57
Post by: Rayne on Sun, 22 June 2014, 02:39:42
If you need address change you can just send me a PM with the new address. That's expected the longer a buy takes really.good to know, depending on how much longer this takes, i might need to change mine somewhat soon.
Post by: Keytrun on Sun, 22 June 2014, 03:17:45
Also, for us baller touch typists who are getting blanks - will they be darker than the ones with the legends? You mentioned that they are sampling in order to get the caps as dark as they can with visible legends. What about us with no legends? Can we just get our nice dark caps sent over? ^.^
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 22 June 2014, 06:41:56
Post by: Cafiend on Sun, 22 June 2014, 07:06:25
Post by: jorgenslee on Mon, 23 June 2014, 10:41:45
All sets will be same, all same production run with same custom color. Yes it is too late to add anything, order has been finalized for long time and paid.
Hi Ivan, I assume adding dyesub to my blank black order is not possible right? Kinda contempating on adding dyesub with all these preparations you have done.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 23 June 2014, 18:16:21
Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 24 June 2014, 00:57:39
No sorry, no changing at this time.
No worries.
Someone care to take over my order of blank black?
Post by: daerid on Fri, 27 June 2014, 10:51:19
Post by: nukec on Sun, 29 June 2014, 18:45:20
No sorry, no changing at this time.
No worries.
Someone care to take over my order of blank black?
Hm, I am interested, sent you a pm.
Post by: zippox on Tue, 01 July 2014, 10:04:55
Post by: minho on Tue, 01 July 2014, 10:15:42
Is it normal to have so much excitement for some pieces of plastic?
Welcome to Geekhack?
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 01 July 2014, 10:23:30
(http://collegetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ineedit.png)
Post by: strict on Tue, 01 July 2014, 10:26:48
Is it normal to have so much excitement for some pieces of plastic?
You should see how people react to Bros and Clacks. Its like chum to pirhanas.
Man, every email notification to this thread is making me jump.Show Image(http://collegetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ineedit.png)
Glad I'm not the only one!
Post by: Acanthophis on Tue, 01 July 2014, 11:11:23
Set is gone.
Post by: dannyp on Tue, 01 July 2014, 21:00:04
Post by: minho on Tue, 01 July 2014, 22:59:12
Tab pinned 24/7. F5 several times a day. Sweaty palms every time.
You're going to be having really sweaty palms for quite a while then :p
Post by: dannyp on Wed, 02 July 2014, 01:04:40
Post by: TBone on Thu, 03 July 2014, 09:01:18
Post by: malu1989 on Thu, 03 July 2014, 15:04:33
Buyer jumped, so I still got a blank set to offer.
Hey, I'm interested. Sent you a PM.
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 06 July 2014, 03:10:19
It won't be that much long wait! From the sound of things currently it should be another week or so for them to make sure the new plastic material is good to go then hopefully we should finally be starting production phase relatively soon after. Worst case scenario based on current info these should be to you in September. Odds are it will be sooner than this, but I haven't gotten a locked in production slot yet.
Once again apologies for the much longer than anticipated time frame and thanks for your continued patience.
Any update from the manufacturer as to whether this new material was suitable or not?
Post by: boost on Mon, 07 July 2014, 08:59:20
It won't be that much long wait! From the sound of things currently it should be another week or so for them to make sure the new plastic material is good to go then hopefully we should finally be starting production phase relatively soon after. Worst case scenario based on current info these should be to you in September. Odds are it will be sooner than this, but I haven't gotten a locked in production slot yet.
Once again apologies for the much longer than anticipated time frame and thanks for your continued patience.
Any update from the manufacturer as to whether this new material was suitable or not?
^^this...
#needsblankset
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 07 July 2014, 10:24:58
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 08 July 2014, 19:57:56
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 09 July 2014, 05:38:24
Yes. It's good. Now just waiting for production slot.
Awesome :D
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 10 July 2014, 17:23:33
I get that this takes time and patients is necessary in group buys but at the rate these delays are happening I'd expect the dolch set first..
Post by: Psybin on Thu, 10 July 2014, 17:38:26
I'm ok with a little delayed gratification, its what makes this hobby more interesting than most.
Post by: strict on Thu, 10 July 2014, 17:48:54
Without sounding too forward here, is there any way we can start putting a bit of pressure on this?
I get that this takes time and patients is necessary in group buys but at the rate these delays are happening I'd expect the dolch set first..
There's no need to put pressure on anyone about anything here. It's not like there has been a lack of progress ... just a few days ago Ivan confirmed the PBT material is ready, we just need a production opening. The last thing anyone wants is a rushed product.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 10 July 2014, 19:49:05
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:03:22
I'm sorry it's taking way longer than expected. Yes PLUM is being slow, but they are also extremely diligent on making sure a good product is made. Most of the time has been issues with finding the right color and proper high quality material. Instead I'm sure some other places would have just churned out some junk and been all too ****ing bad about it.
I did not mean put pressure on you Ivan, I hope my comment wasn't taken like that.
It just seems PLUM isn't seeing much priority in this GB and maybe there was something we could do as members of the GB.
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 11 July 2014, 01:14:43
Please read his post. PLUM has been putting in a lot of effort.I'm sorry it's taking way longer than expected. Yes PLUM is being slow, but they are also extremely diligent on making sure a good product is made. Most of the time has been issues with finding the right color and proper high quality material. Instead I'm sure some other places would have just churned out some junk and been all too ****ing bad about it.I did not mean put pressure on you Ivan, I hope my comment wasn't taken like that.
It just seems PLUM isn't seeing much priority in this GB and maybe there was something we could do as members of the GB.
But sourcing the right materials for the best possible colour is slow work and takes time. The base materials are most likely shipped by boat instead of the plane from various countries to keep costs low. If you have to redo a certain run or source new materials then you get hit with delays.
Keep in mind this, Black Dyesub on 'Black', hasn't been done before. It takes some testing to do properly.
Post by: Lu_e on Fri, 11 July 2014, 17:09:34
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Fri, 11 July 2014, 18:43:21
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 12 July 2014, 11:03:35
Post by: Zacapa on Sat, 12 July 2014, 16:57:44
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 12 July 2014, 16:59:59
Will there be another round of this set in the near future?
There will likely be more buys of thick PBT cherry profile in the future, although I can't say for certain.
There probably won't be another buy in this colorway for a long time though -- I think some people have already waited years for this one. If you'd like to pick up a set, some people are selling their orders, or you can post in classifieds once the buy has been completed and you've made enough posts.
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:02:02
Will there be another round of this set in the near future?
There will likely be more buys of thick PBT cherry profile in the future, although I can't say for certain.
I hope there will be more thick cherry PBT in the future. That is all I use most of the time.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 12 July 2014, 17:53:41
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 12 July 2014, 19:00:43
Post by: strict on Sat, 12 July 2014, 19:43:37
As soon as this is actually wrapped up as in shipped out to all of you I will start a new PBT groupbuy probably on white. I have no idea when I will rerun black/dark PBT sets again though. Considering giving POM which would be in black a run since they are really cheap $28 per set price. But, those will only be blank or possible with engraved.
I would totally be down for a black Cherry profile POM blank set. I've never tried POM but if I were going to, that would be the set I would want. Especially for that price!
Post by: dante on Sat, 12 July 2014, 21:32:39
... Considering giving POM which would be in black a run since they are really cheap $28 per set price. But, those will only be blank or possible with engraved.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/11t9sYRP19MFd6/giphy.gif)
Post by: t2russo on Sat, 12 July 2014, 21:33:56
Post by: dante on Sat, 12 July 2014, 23:05:25
As soon as this is actually wrapped up as in shipped out to all of you I will start a new PBT groupbuy probably on white. I have no idea when I will rerun black/dark PBT sets again though. Considering giving POM which would be in black a run since they are really cheap $28 per set price. But, those will only be blank or possible with engraved.
If side engraved is possible this would be ideal. There is only one board to have those types of keycaps and it was a Noppoo Choc Pro RF which was sold for a limited time. Hell I love blank but I'd go with side print if it meant more buyers. PLUM probably already set up for this.
(http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/845415561/Noppoo-choc-pro-standard-black-tea-led-backlight-mini-mechanical-keyboard.jpg)
Post by: Zacapa on Sun, 13 July 2014, 06:45:08
Post by: dante on Sun, 13 July 2014, 12:27:43
I more or less know the difference between ABS and PBT. How is POM compared to those?
Similiar to PBT but instead of feeling dry it feels "wet" and typically feel very smooth.
Like PBT it takes a while to shine.
Post by: Oobly on Sun, 13 July 2014, 15:20:05
I more or less know the difference between ABS and PBT. How is POM compared to those?
Similiar to PBT but instead of feeling dry it feels "wet" and typically feel very smooth.
Like PBT it takes a while to shine.
It's denser than PBT and ABS, too, so feels heavier. IMHO it's the best feeling keycap material. It's "slicker" than ABS, but doesn't get "sticky" like smooth ABS. Deepens the switch sound even more than PBT.
I would absolutely LOVE a set of doubleshot thick Cherry profile POM caps!
I want legends, but that's a bit of a problem with POM since AFAIK they can't be dyesubbed, so the only untextured legend type is doubleshot.
I really don't like front-printed (ninja) legends... Got a Ducky with some and they aren't visible enough to help, since they tend to be hidden more by the angle I type at and my fingers. I may as well be typing with blanks.
Post by: Laser on Sun, 13 July 2014, 16:50:47
Due to summer $$ problems, i'm ready to let go to (transfer) my "BLACK on BLACK" set for the sum i paid for it
(75$ + 3$ GB fee + 13$ shipping + 4$ paypal tax = 95$).
Post by: PolaBurrr on Sun, 13 July 2014, 17:18:04
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 14 July 2014, 01:36:07
(http://www.hack.fi/~codehead/IMG_1516.jpg)
Post by: bazh on Mon, 14 July 2014, 12:37:35
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 14 July 2014, 13:10:25
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Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 14 July 2014, 13:47:01
Other colors POM might be cool, but I am not sure about doing another very long lead time custom color deal again... maybe in the future. Black is what they make normally so I think it would be easier that way and a LOT faster.
Post by: Oobly on Mon, 14 July 2014, 14:08:22
Should use POM Juice colors and make Pom Poms. Yeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaa :p
(Attachment Link)
WoR alphas with RoW mods?
For PBT, those red and white colours would be alright, but I'd truly love that GreenTea colourway!
For a POM set I'd rather have doubleshot WoB alphas and.... doubleshot WoB mods. With POM it may be possible to use a semi-translucent white, so they will also work for backlighting :D
Post by: Keytrun on Mon, 14 July 2014, 14:58:08
Post by: bazh on Mon, 14 July 2014, 23:21:06
Post by: patthebaker17 on Tue, 15 July 2014, 00:48:02
Post by: TBone on Tue, 15 July 2014, 08:39:12
If anyone is letting go a black on black US set please pm me! ;D
PM Laser!!! :thumb:
Post by: Ridillz on Wed, 16 July 2014, 19:39:30
Post by: Eszett on Thu, 17 July 2014, 17:04:51
As soon as this is actually wrapped up as in shipped out to all of you I will start a new PBT groupbuy probably on white.I’m interested in white ones, Ivan, please inform me, when you get it going.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 17 July 2014, 19:17:50
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
[attachimg=1]
Post by: GSimon on Thu, 17 July 2014, 21:27:07
I generally announce in the IC thread when it goes onto a buy so you could keep an eye on this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.0
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
(Attachment Link)
Cool! I like it. Granted it's not the most impressive photo/sample but to me it's promising, at least contrast wise.
Post by: TBone on Thu, 17 July 2014, 21:41:19
I generally announce in the IC thread when it goes onto a buy so you could keep an eye on this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.0
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
(Attachment Link)
Oh god I'm regretting getting the blanks only :( but I guess I'll be able to pick up a set in the classifieds hopefully if I want them bad enough.
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 17 July 2014, 22:31:21
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 17 July 2014, 23:35:02
I generally announce in the IC thread when it goes onto a buy so you could keep an eye on this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.0
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
(Attachment Link)
Oh god I'm regretting getting the blanks only :( but I guess I'll be able to pick up a set in the classifieds hopefully if I want them bad enough.
same here. I hope I could turn back time and change my order. I just got too many blank key set that my wife is complaining coz she cant use my keyboard..
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 18 July 2014, 00:53:11
That looks great Ivan. As contrasty as you can expect from dyesub and dark enough to still be readable.
Post by: cribbit on Fri, 18 July 2014, 01:06:45
Post by: strict on Fri, 18 July 2014, 10:02:33
I generally announce in the IC thread when it goes onto a buy so you could keep an eye on this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.0
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
(Attachment Link)
Even though its a potato-pic, it still looks great. I'm more excited than ever for these!
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 18 July 2014, 10:45:58
I generally announce in the IC thread when it goes onto a buy so you could keep an eye on this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.0
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
(Attachment Link)
Oh god I'm regretting getting the blanks only :( but I guess I'll be able to pick up a set in the classifieds hopefully if I want them bad enough.
I'd say buy her her own keyboard but why doesn't she have her own computer?
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 18 July 2014, 16:18:01
I love my DAS II keycaps and want more.
Post by: TaegeonLim on Fri, 18 July 2014, 18:58:18
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 18 July 2014, 19:00:06
If anyone wants to take my black on black, send PM. (total 94$)
Why so much?
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 18 July 2014, 19:36:34
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 18 July 2014, 19:39:30
My guess is international shipping?
I figured with these still in production we could just transfer the order from him to someone. If that's possible and the price were the original $75 I'd be interested. I'm not interested in him shipping them from somewhere else when Ivan lives 1 state away from me.
Post by: TaegeonLim on Fri, 18 July 2014, 20:11:18
My guess is international shipping?
I figured with these still in production we could just transfer the order from him to someone. If that's possible and the price were the original $75 I'd be interested. I'm not interested in him shipping them from somewhere else when Ivan lives 1 state away from me.
That price is including internation shipping
my invoice from Ivan is (keycaps 75$ + shipping 13$ + GB Fee 3$ + PP Fee 3.64 = 94.64$)
Maybe someone in out of USA would prefer my transfer.
Thanks guys.
Post by: Mooby on Sat, 19 July 2014, 05:28:27
My guess is international shipping?
I figured with these still in production we could just transfer the order from him to someone. If that's possible and the price were the original $75 I'd be interested. I'm not interested in him shipping them from somewhere else when Ivan lives 1 state away from me.
That 75$ is only for the caps. Groupbuy fees, paypal fees and shipping will be added when you get invoiced.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Sun, 20 July 2014, 22:00:25
My guess is international shipping?
I figured with these still in production we could just transfer the order from him to someone. If that's possible and the price were the original $75 I'd be interested. I'm not interested in him shipping them from somewhere else when Ivan lives 1 state away from me.
That 75$ is only for the caps. Groupbuy fees, paypal fees and shipping will be added when you get invoiced.
Yep, I know. :) I just don't want to pay $13 to have them shipped across an ocean, only to have them shipped straight back to me upon arrival. That's the only thing I'm not a fan of. I know there are GB fees and such, and that's totally fine. I just would prefer to have the order transferred to me and have myself pay the US price instead. :thumb:
Post by: calavera on Sun, 20 July 2014, 22:05:36
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 21 July 2014, 00:53:15
As soon as this is actually wrapped up as in shipped out to all of you I will start a new PBT groupbuy probably on white. I have no idea when I will rerun black/dark PBT sets again though. Considering giving POM which would be in black a run since they are really cheap $28 per set price. But, those will only be blank or possible with engraved.
Classic beige with the correct color non-stepped caps lock :thumb:
Post by: bazh on Mon, 21 July 2014, 01:11:36
besides, a monotone beige color set is good as well :p
Post by: LechnerDE on Mon, 21 July 2014, 01:48:06
As soon as this is actually wrapped up as in shipped out to all of you I will start a new PBT groupbuy probably on white. I have no idea when I will rerun black/dark PBT sets again though. Considering giving POM which would be in black a run since they are really cheap $28 per set price. But, those will only be blank or possible with engraved.
Classic beige with the correct color non-stepped caps lock :thumb:
This man knows what's up :p
Classic beige is always worth considering!
Post by: gameaholic on Mon, 21 July 2014, 02:48:24
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 21 July 2014, 03:33:10
Post by: CK Briefs on Mon, 21 July 2014, 10:30:07
My god I hope no win8 logos.
Sorry, bud
The new generation is here.
Jk, but nostalgia and being used to the old logo aside, isn't the win 8 logo just a lot cleaner? At least imo.
Or does everyone hate it because the os sucks?
Post by: calavera on Mon, 21 July 2014, 12:10:03
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 21 July 2014, 22:27:42
I don't like window logos in general. They all look horrible on a board imo.
Some diamond logo caps would look good also.
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 21 July 2014, 22:40:40
My god I hope no win8 logos.Sorry, bud
The new generation is here.
Jk, but nostalgia and being used to the old logo aside, isn't the win 8 logo just a lot cleaner? At least imo.
Or does everyone hate it because the os sucks?
Looks better and is cleaner, keep it.
The new OS IS better, some people can't get over the new UI. I solved this Day 1 with 3rd party software (Start 8 ). In b4 "Users shouldn't have to fix it with software" not realizing the new OS is much better despite this one shortcoming they need to get over.
Either way, +1 for updated logo, old one makes me cringe, and diamond is generic and lame.
Post by: CommonCurt on Mon, 21 July 2014, 23:07:16
I have a notebook with 8.1, and once you add classic start (or something similar) it is more tolerable. However I still much prefer windows7.
Post by: KatzenKinder on Tue, 22 July 2014, 03:28:53
Post by: TBone on Tue, 22 July 2014, 08:41:04
Post by: Yslen on Tue, 22 July 2014, 08:48:56
Post by: geniekid on Tue, 22 July 2014, 09:17:54
I must be the only person who doesn't care one way or the other :P A windows key is a windows key is a windows key. So long as the legend is well formed I'm easy.
I think everyone has an opinion about it, but few feel strong enough that it would make or break a purchasing decision. Personally, I'm saving my energy to fight for R3 Ctrl next time an Ivan IC comes up :P
Post by: FingerPunch on Tue, 22 July 2014, 19:09:16
I generally announce in the IC thread when it goes onto a buy so you could keep an eye on this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54708.0
I was kind of hesitant to post this as it's such a superbad potato... but here is a sample of the dyesub on a chip, not a key. It will give a rough idea of what we will be getting but the plastic won't be streaky.
(Attachment Link)
Can I get my set in "streaky"? :D
Post by: Rewind on Tue, 22 July 2014, 19:14:48
The windows 7(?) or older one just felt more balanced, even though the lines are cleaner on the new icon it feels imbalanced.
100% Agreed. The new logo has this perspective/depth thing going on, which looks **** next to all the "flat" legends.
Edit: (http://i.imgur.com/fROI84y.gif) Don't mind Bill lol...
3.1 would look the best on a keyboard imo.
Post by: strict on Tue, 22 July 2014, 20:28:55
Post by: CK Briefs on Tue, 22 July 2014, 20:45:59
I'm not big on the win8 logo either, it looks distorted and imbalanced. It not enough to be a deal breaker for me though. For some reason I actually really like the 1.0 logo :))
For me it's quite opposite
Windows 9/1.0 just looks like someone forgot what symmetrical window panes look like to me :/
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 22 July 2014, 21:08:12
Ugliest key ever! :) Not a fan of win8 logo on a keycap but the bog ugly diamonds look super cheesy to me. I felt the need to put that out there for some reason.I don't like window logos in general. They all look horrible on a board imo.
Some diamond logo caps would look good also.
Post by: strict on Tue, 22 July 2014, 21:13:49
Post by: GSimon on Tue, 22 July 2014, 21:36:55
Hahaha the longer this discussion goes on the clearer it becomes why Ivan chose blank super/win keys for the GMK dolch set ...
Thankful for the color pack, Windows 8 logo goodness.
Post by: lightsout714 on Tue, 22 July 2014, 22:11:36
Hahaha the longer this discussion goes on the clearer it becomes why Ivan chose blank super/win keys for the GMK dolch set ...
Haha serious. I am glad I got the color pack though, almost didn't.
Post by: Heezy on Wed, 23 July 2014, 01:41:56
Post by: strict on Wed, 23 July 2014, 07:13:47
Anyone got a black set and a pack standard set to let go?
Pack Standard isn't being produced since it didn't hit MOQ
Post by: gameaholic on Wed, 23 July 2014, 15:31:17
The windows 7(?) or older one just felt more balanced, even though the lines are cleaner on the new icon it feels imbalanced.
100% Agreed. The new logo has this perspective/depth thing going on, which looks **** next to all the "flat" legends.
Edit:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fROI84y.gif)Don't mind Bill lol...
3.1 would look the best on a keyboard imo.
Could we do a GMK group buy just for 1.25 windows logos? I'd be down for White on Black and Black on Beige for 1.0 and 8.
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 23 July 2014, 18:04:44
The windows 7(?) or older one just felt more balanced, even though the lines are cleaner on the new icon it feels imbalanced.
100% Agreed. The new logo has this perspective/depth thing going on, which looks **** next to all the "flat" legends.
Edit:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fROI84y.gif)Don't mind Bill lol...
3.1 would look the best on a keyboard imo.
Could we do a GMK group buy just for 1.25 windows logos? I'd be down for White on Black and Black on Beige for 1.0 and 8.
You should run it ;)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 23 July 2014, 18:24:27
Post by: tbc on Wed, 23 July 2014, 21:55:29
or is that just not physically possible at this time?
cause white on yellow winkeys (all of them logos?) would be baller. part of a larger winkey mini pack.
from then on, just include blanks or diamonds* and tell everyone to buy their winkeys from a vendor.
that deal screws winkey lovers, but there are so many people that refuse to buy sets with winkey, it really hurts gbs.
Post by: Sulianjeo on Wed, 23 July 2014, 22:15:23
Post by: jorgenslee on Wed, 23 July 2014, 22:27:53
I know orders are closed, but is there anyway I can purchase a blank set?
Taken. Thanks Sulianjeo. Ivan, YGPM.
Post by: lightsout714 on Wed, 23 July 2014, 23:16:54
If someone dosen't want to do it first I was thinking about offering Windows and menu key as mini pack in next time with standard colors (beige and black) or another. Probably a good idea since it would be easy way to complete sets with existing RGB, CMYK or EK mods that don't have Windows and menu key.
I know it never ends but how about a center stemmed caps lock? I have a WOB set I got from an 1800. I have an RGB set and with the windows and menu key you speak of you still need the caps lock to complete it. Well and a space bar :) I guess were getting into moogle status at that point.
Post by: Oobly on Sat, 26 July 2014, 09:03:09
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sat, 26 July 2014, 10:42:35
Been a couple weeks of waiting for a production slot, hows that coming?
Post by: LXXXIX on Tue, 29 July 2014, 09:18:17
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:24:23
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 29 July 2014, 10:30:20
Will we ever see a new round soon? I'm anticipating to pull the trigger on IMSTO's grey/black PBT caps. Though a Black Otaku set would be lovely.
Try and find someone's set to take over. You'll be waiting a long, long time for this to come around again.
Post by: kaiyul on Tue, 29 July 2014, 17:21:33
Post by: strict on Tue, 29 July 2014, 17:33:55
I paid for a PBT BLACK 104 set back in March, but still have yet to receive any kind of news or updates regarding the keycaps. I've tried to read through this thread, but I haven't been able to find an answer as to whether or not the keys have entered/finished production, shipped out, etc. If someone could help me out and give me an updated regarding the status of these, I would appreciate it! Thanks in advance!
Page 44:
Yes. It's good. Now just waiting for production slot.
Also, the thread title ...
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 29 July 2014, 17:37:49
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 30 July 2014, 09:33:43
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 30 July 2014, 10:08:17
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 10:20:16
Post by: Lu_e on Wed, 30 July 2014, 14:52:47
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 30 July 2014, 19:42:52
PLUM has informed me finally with a production slot. Production will begin mid August. ETA to delivery mid September.
I'm going to need to update my shipping info then. I'll PM you after I move.
Post by: Rayne on Thu, 31 July 2014, 00:16:08
Im probably going to have to do the same.PLUM has informed me finally with a production slot. Production will begin mid August. ETA to delivery mid September.
I'm going to need to update my shipping info then. I'll PM you after I move.
Post by: justnits on Thu, 31 July 2014, 00:58:42
PLUM has informed me finally with a production slot. Production will begin mid August. ETA to delivery mid September.
ivan, when you say delivery in mid September, do you mean delivery from PLUM factory to dyesub factory or delivery to us?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 31 July 2014, 09:40:35
Just PM me and address changes and I take care of it.
Post by: strict on Thu, 31 July 2014, 10:25:12
Expected delivery ETA to me.
So once they get to you, the sets that get dye sub still need to be shipped to Imsto? Once the dye sublimation is completed, he ships them back to you and you ship to us?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 31 July 2014, 11:26:47
Post by: yearn4 on Thu, 07 August 2014, 06:14:31
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 07 August 2014, 08:37:15
No. When I get them will be all finish. Then I will just need up to couple weeks to get everything packed and shipped out to you.
Awesome... Great to have some movement on these sets. Looking forward to these as they're the first Group Buy sets I ordered after joining GH :)
Post by: BamBooBam on Thu, 07 August 2014, 11:49:56
Post by: So1911 on Fri, 08 August 2014, 07:30:55
Post by: alon93 on Fri, 08 August 2014, 09:25:42
Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 10 August 2014, 21:52:11
Post by: calavera on Sun, 10 August 2014, 21:54:28
Post by: minho on Sun, 10 August 2014, 21:58:10
Pretty sure it's center stem.
Isn't it both? I think this comes with stepped and full touch.
EDIT:
copied from OP: "Total 300 PBT sets ordered to go to production. Stepped caps lock is also included in each set as the 105th key."
Post by: strict on Sun, 10 August 2014, 21:59:05
This may be a silly question, but does Cherry profile imply an offset-stemmed caps lock, or is this set's center-stemmed?
I'm pretty sure this set comes with both a centered full touch capslock and an off-center stepped capslock
...
Total 300 PBT sets ordered to go to production. Stepped caps lock is also included in each set as the 105th key.
Post by: calavera on Sun, 10 August 2014, 22:07:17
Full touch capslock -> center stem
stepped capslock -> off-center stem
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 11 August 2014, 07:44:10
Yeah it comes with both. Was thinking he was asking about full touch for some reason.
Full touch capslock -> center stem
stepped capslock -> off-center stem
Ah got it. Thanks!
Post by: mroverkill on Thu, 14 August 2014, 16:40:53
Willing to sell my blank set, I paid 73.84$ including fees and international shipping (I bet Ivan can refund the difference in shipping if you are from the US)
I'm interested.
Post by: Karura on Sun, 17 August 2014, 12:54:34
Post by: Keytrun on Sun, 17 August 2014, 15:33:55
Post by: tbc on Sun, 17 August 2014, 15:44:03
Why did this take so fricken long? I thought we were going to initially be getting these in May?
people dropping out (seriously - completely screwed everyone)
needed to find the proper material
had to get into the production queue
but we're pretty solid for september now. happy thoughts :)
Post by: wilflare on Sun, 17 August 2014, 22:41:44
my Filco keyboard needs a solid makeover
Post by: bueller on Mon, 18 August 2014, 05:59:43
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Tue, 19 August 2014, 19:45:25
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 19 August 2014, 20:06:05
Post by: TBone on Tue, 19 August 2014, 20:29:37
I've been told they starting production finally... so yes hopefully not much longer than another month with transit times and all.
YES!!!
(http://i.imgur.com/XYBgt.gif)
Post by: calavera on Tue, 19 August 2014, 22:56:20
Post by: dannyp on Wed, 20 August 2014, 02:12:32
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 20 August 2014, 07:00:18
I've been told they starting production finally... so yes hopefully not much longer than another month with transit times and all.
This is great news!
Post by: atlas3686 on Thu, 21 August 2014, 03:25:59
I've been told they starting production finally... so yes hopefully not much longer than another month with transit times and all.
Great news, looking forward to these, am going to switch back to mx board for a while to get some use out of them :)
Post by: Lu_e on Fri, 22 August 2014, 18:29:10
You should change the title of the thread to a beautiful 'production'.
Thanks for making this buy.
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 23 August 2014, 12:28:19
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Sat, 23 August 2014, 14:30:44
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 23 August 2014, 16:11:22
(http://42.120.41.196/data/attachment/forum/201201/20/004545jpbw80vggbnfyc2t.jpg)
Post by: CommonCurt on Sat, 23 August 2014, 16:48:23
I believe so... as far as I know Plum 6.25 spacebar is like this:Show Image(http://42.120.41.196/data/attachment/forum/201201/20/004545jpbw80vggbnfyc2t.jpg)
I'm looking forward to seeing how these turn out. Would really like to get a a classic beige, Olivetti, or WYSE dye-sub set.
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 23 August 2014, 17:29:41
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sat, 23 August 2014, 17:43:04
Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 23 August 2014, 18:35:12
Don't really want to pay that much or spend the time hunting that down. Besides, that would be lighter than this keycap set. Titanium would be more of a lighter grey, this set is a lot closer to black than grey.Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sat, 23 August 2014, 19:01:04
Don't really want to pay that much or spend the time hunting that down. Besides, that would be lighter than this keycap set. Titanium would be more of a lighter grey, this set is a lot closer to black than grey.Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
Hit up the ol' Signature Plastics then, you'll have a hell of a time finding black 7x on it's own otherwise.
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 23 August 2014, 19:31:22
I have and I can't figure out which color to go with, I am thinking GX in the bottom right might work for me.Don't really want to pay that much or spend the time hunting that down. Besides, that would be lighter than this keycap set. Titanium would be more of a lighter grey, this set is a lot closer to black than grey.Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
Hit up the ol' Signature Plastics then, you'll have a hell of a time finding black 7x on it's own otherwise.
(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/absgray.jpg)
Post by: GSimon on Sat, 23 August 2014, 19:47:56
I believe so... as far as I know Plum 6.25 spacebar is like this:Show Image(http://42.120.41.196/data/attachment/forum/201201/20/004545jpbw80vggbnfyc2t.jpg)
:D:D:D
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 23 August 2014, 23:02:46
I have and I can't figure out which color to go with, I am thinking GX in the bottom right might work for me.Don't really want to pay that much or spend the time hunting that down. Besides, that would be lighter than this keycap set. Titanium would be more of a lighter grey, this set is a lot closer to black than grey.Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
Hit up the ol' Signature Plastics then, you'll have a hell of a time finding black 7x on it's own otherwise.Show Image(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/absgray.jpg)
Grab 1 GX and 1 GB.
Or Feng has these
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MKC-Black-Anodized-Aluminum-Spacebar-7x-Units-Cherry-MX-Keycap-/331034108926?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d132ba3fe
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 24 August 2014, 08:12:10
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sun, 24 August 2014, 08:35:59
I have and I can't figure out which color to go with, I am thinking GX in the bottom right might work for me.Don't really want to pay that much or spend the time hunting that down. Besides, that would be lighter than this keycap set. Titanium would be more of a lighter grey, this set is a lot closer to black than grey.Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
Hit up the ol' Signature Plastics then, you'll have a hell of a time finding black 7x on it's own otherwise.Show Image(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/absgray.jpg)
I strongly suggest picking up the test pack of these tags from SP, it has been a great way to determine with your own eyes what will match and what won't. I've found their picture samples are like paint samples at Home Depot, they never match when you get them.
Post by: Lordbas on Sun, 24 August 2014, 12:50:22
If anyone doesn't want his CHERRY BLACK on BLACK dyesub, I want one , PM or mail me.
Tnx
Post by: Barracuda on Mon, 25 August 2014, 15:56:32
Hi,
If anyone doesn't want his CHERRY BLACK on BLACK dyesub, I want one , PM or mail me.
Tnx
Oh man, you beat me to it. If there's a second black on black left, I'll take it!
In the meantime @IvanIvanovich: can we expect another round of these sets? I'm really looking for a black on black set :(
Post by: calavera on Tue, 26 August 2014, 00:20:45
I have and I can't figure out which color to go with, I am thinking GX in the bottom right might work for me.Don't really want to pay that much or spend the time hunting that down. Besides, that would be lighter than this keycap set. Titanium would be more of a lighter grey, this set is a lot closer to black than grey.Speaking of spacebars, do you have any suggestions for a 7x spacebar that would somewhat match this set?
Titanium?
Hit up the ol' Signature Plastics then, you'll have a hell of a time finding black 7x on it's own otherwise.Show Image(http://keycapsdirect.com/images/colors/absgray.jpg)
Might as well ask this here. What color matches the off-white or creamy space bar from cherry the closest?
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Tue, 02 September 2014, 09:02:47
We have a picture on these yet? They have to have at least 1 set done no?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 02 September 2014, 10:59:18
Post by: bjonbjonbjon on Sat, 06 September 2014, 07:36:28
Post by: Yslen on Sat, 06 September 2014, 14:15:40
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 06 September 2014, 17:46:22
Post by: appleonama on Sat, 06 September 2014, 19:35:51
Post by: RexxxBosworth on Thu, 11 September 2014, 16:36:34
Post by: user 18 on Thu, 11 September 2014, 17:47:17
So I'm assuming the keys won't be arriving till sometime in October? :(
Keys are in production now. Once the physical keys have been made, the dyesub needs to happen, then Ivan can start shipping them out. Exactly how long that'll take is anyone's guess. These custom set buys take some time, but are well worth it :)
Post by: catbuster on Fri, 12 September 2014, 04:54:37
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 12 September 2014, 06:14:03
Post by: strict on Fri, 12 September 2014, 07:26:48
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 12 September 2014, 07:40:41
Post by: Ridillz on Fri, 12 September 2014, 09:09:24
Post by: Barracuda on Fri, 12 September 2014, 11:04:32
D: :(
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 12 September 2014, 11:30:23
Post by: bueller on Fri, 12 September 2014, 11:49:58
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 12 September 2014, 16:36:31
Anyone want to trade their Cherry or Cyrillic order for my Penumbra set with white alphas and tsangan? Unused.
PM sent.
Post by: spookymikal on Sat, 13 September 2014, 08:03:01
Post by: strict on Sat, 13 September 2014, 09:28:03
Is it too late to get in on a set of blank blacks?
Yep, you're only options currently are to either buy someones order out or wait for a set to pop up in the classifieds.
Post by: Rayne on Sat, 13 September 2014, 20:28:34
Is it too late to get in on a set of blank blacks?i would be willing to transfer mine if you want, i will pm the details! :)
Post by: spookymikal on Sun, 14 September 2014, 07:13:39
Is it too late to get in on a set of blank blacks?i would be willing to transfer mine if you want, i will pm the details! :)
You're a saint and a scholar. I sent ivan a pm to get his blessing. Once I have it I will absolutely buy out your order.
:D
Post by: Rayne on Sun, 14 September 2014, 17:41:42
sounds good my friendIs it too late to get in on a set of blank blacks?i would be willing to transfer mine if you want, i will pm the details! :)
You're a saint and a scholar. I sent ivan a pm to get his blessing. Once I have it I will absolutely buy out your order.
:D
Post by: mountainwizard on Mon, 15 September 2014, 13:30:36
Thanks very much everyone!
Post by: Barracuda on Mon, 15 September 2014, 18:36:57
Recently lost my job :(
Anyone willing to pick up my Blanks? I paid $64.48 after fees, etc.
Damn, I wish you the best in getting back on track!
I would love to help you out, but my typing skills are not proficient for blanks :s
Post by: Vitamins on Tue, 16 September 2014, 04:20:05
If anyone wants to unload their Cherry Black on Black dyesub sets let me know, I'd gladly take it off your hands.
Post by: Veteranos on Fri, 19 September 2014, 03:15:32
Post by: tbc on Fri, 19 September 2014, 03:20:45
Post by: frosty on Fri, 19 September 2014, 03:24:19
Post by: Veteranos on Fri, 19 September 2014, 03:35:26
no. they're still weeks away
:'(
Post by: minho on Fri, 19 September 2014, 05:00:08
Anyone with blanks and do not want their set please pm me!
YGPM
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 19 September 2014, 08:49:09
Post by: dante on Fri, 19 September 2014, 09:21:15
Yes these are still some ways off. Sadly I haven't been able to get any more specific info than they are in production, and done 'soon'.
I'm looking forward to this GB being over for very different reasons: I want you to get the POM GB going :)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 19 September 2014, 09:22:02
Post by: dante on Fri, 19 September 2014, 09:27:20
As long as PLUM takes to get anything done I'm not so sure about using them again.
:( Please don't lose the faith. PBT is so common - POM so rare - it's worth it. :(
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 19 September 2014, 09:38:18
Post by: dante on Fri, 19 September 2014, 09:42:33
Are there no other manufacturers who do POM?
Keycool does but the caps are OEM profile and a tad thin.
KBC used to sell really amazing Rainbow POM keycaps but hasn't manufactured any in a long time - and neither Feng, Imsto, or Qtan seem interested in getting more.
You could steal POM off a Cherry board - but it won't be complete - and they will have lasered legends.
Very very rare. WORTH the wait.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 10:20:39
As long as PLUM takes to get anything done I'm not so sure about using them again.I wonder if Leopold might be an option going forward, those PBT caps available for purchase on ebay are great quality.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 19 September 2014, 10:34:12
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 19 September 2014, 16:18:14
As long as PLUM takes to get anything done I'm not so sure about using them again.I wonder if Leopold might be an option going forward, those PBT caps available for purchase on ebay are great quality.
They're not Cherry profile, though. Somewhere in between OEM and Cherry from what I can tell.
I'm also looking forward to some nice high quality POM caps in Cherry profile... Please? I don't mind waiting for them.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 19 September 2014, 16:26:07
Post by: GSimon on Fri, 19 September 2014, 16:37:45
I would like to find out who actually makes the caps for Leopold, but haven't had any success. Might need a Korean to try Leopold KR directly.
Hope you can make it happen! Those keys in red would be awesome. And ya the old Leopold keys are terrible in comparison haha, surprised at how they were somewhat praised for their quality at one point.
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Sat, 20 September 2014, 11:03:24
I would like to find out who actually makes the caps for Leopold, but haven't had any success. Might need a Korean to try Leopold KR directly.
Hope you can make it happen! Those keys in red would be awesome. And ya the old Leopold keys are terrible in comparison haha, surprised at how they were somewhat praised for their quality at one point.
I love the rough texture on the old ones, though.
Post by: spookymikal on Sun, 21 September 2014, 08:25:16
Post by: Karura on Sun, 21 September 2014, 08:26:01
PM me if you want to let go of your CHERRY BLACK on BLACK set!
Post by: lolkey on Sun, 21 September 2014, 11:08:38
Have they given any estimate for a completion date or is it just "it's done when it's done"?
Post by: Rayne on Sun, 21 September 2014, 17:41:59
Have they given any estimate for a completion date or is it just "it's done when it's done"?
Yes these are still some ways off. Sadly I haven't been able to get any more specific info than they are in production, and done 'soon'.
Post by: henz on Tue, 23 September 2014, 14:44:16
Post by: dante on Tue, 23 September 2014, 15:05:22
I'm also looking forward to some nice high quality POM caps in Cherry profile... Please? I don't mind waiting for them.
Assuming payment was taken in the next month or two I would have no problems waiting until 3rd/4th quarter 2015 for delivery.
PLUM may even knock the MOQ down considering how long this one is taking.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Tue, 23 September 2014, 18:35:02
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 24 September 2014, 02:07:30
The new Leopold sets... I really can't tell the difference if there is any between my Cherry keys. They are definitely not taller than Cherry and have sharp corners and etc. Not the older ones, I wouldn't give a **** about those.
I stand corrected! Thank you for this info... <starts looking on eBay for Leopold sets...> JK! No need to with this and GMK Dolch on their way :D But it is nice to know there are more Cherry-like profile sets to choose from. Really curious now about who makes them.
Post by: Shinryuu on Thu, 25 September 2014, 12:16:18
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 25 September 2014, 12:32:37
Post by: pr1me on Thu, 25 September 2014, 15:34:19
If anyone want to take over my black on black order, Let me know, 1 set ~95usd (if ivan can still make the switch.)
Post by: Barracuda on Thu, 25 September 2014, 15:48:10
If anyone want to take over my black on black order, Let me know, 1 set ~95usd (if ivan can still make the switch.)
Sent you a pm
Post by: Ridillz on Fri, 26 September 2014, 08:45:57
Post by: spookymikal on Fri, 26 September 2014, 09:33:46
to be fair I'm pretty sure I remember Ivan saying that production would take 5-6 weeks after it begins. back in feb or so. Its been four-ish weeks at this point?
So there's a chance I'll get these before christmas? :D
Post by: bazh on Fri, 26 September 2014, 13:58:09
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 26 September 2014, 21:11:36
Post by: strict on Fri, 26 September 2014, 21:22:05
I said it months ago, I wouldn't be surprised if I open my christmas presents first.
I seriously don't understand your unrelenting negativity and petulance. Group buys take time, plenty of them have taken way longer than this and even more will take longer in the future. You need to find a new hobby if you can't learn to be a little more patient. You should just be thankful that Ivan was willing to go through the enormous effort required to put this together.
Post by: Karura on Fri, 26 September 2014, 22:52:28
Can't wait to receive. Should be interesting to see how it compares to IMSTO's black on grey dyesubs.
Post by: Shinryuu on Sat, 27 September 2014, 02:24:23
If anyone want to take over my black on black order, Let me know, 1 set ~95usd (if ivan can still make the switch.)
Thanks for the info :)
Post by: dante on Sat, 27 September 2014, 06:50:03
I said it months ago, I wouldn't be surprised if I open my christmas presents first.
I seriously don't understand your unrelenting negativity and petulance. Group buys take time, plenty of them have taken way longer than this and even more will take longer in the future. You need to find a new hobby if you can't learn to be a little more patient. You should just be thankful that Ivan was willing to go through the enormous effort required to put this together.
^ This times eleventy million.
This is a CUSTOM order for a product you will likely never see produced again. Ivan is busting his ass for not only handling and shuffling around hundreds of orders but will also have to deal with packaging everything up. Show some ****ing patience and gratitude!
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sat, 27 September 2014, 08:40:09
I said it months ago, I wouldn't be surprised if I open my christmas presents first.
I seriously don't understand your unrelenting negativity and petulance. Group buys take time, plenty of them have taken way longer than this and even more will take longer in the future. You need to find a new hobby if you can't learn to be a little more patient. You should just be thankful that Ivan was willing to go through the enormous effort required to put this together.
^ This times eleventy million.
This is a CUSTOM order for a product you will likely never see produced again. Ivan is busting his ass for not only handling and shuffling around hundreds of orders but will also have to deal with packaging everything up. Show some ****ing patience and gratitude!
LOL Ivan hasn't taken a new order in months, the only "shuffling" happening here is customer to customer and Ivan changes the name on his Google Doc.. SOO MUCH WORK.. Fix your glass feelings, I made a generic statement about a product promised to buyers and I'll say it, it's not a coincidence that amount of people dropping out.
Post by: pr1me on Sat, 27 September 2014, 09:56:37
If anyone want to take over my black on black order, Let me know, 1 set ~95usd (if ivan can still make the switch.)
Update : Order is sold.
Thanks for the PM's. :thumb:
Post by: geniekid on Sat, 27 September 2014, 10:22:25
I said it months ago, I wouldn't be surprised if I open my christmas presents first.
I seriously don't understand your unrelenting negativity and petulance. Group buys take time, plenty of them have taken way longer than this and even more will take longer in the future. You need to find a new hobby if you can't learn to be a little more patient. You should just be thankful that Ivan was willing to go through the enormous effort required to put this together.
^ This times eleventy million.
This is a CUSTOM order for a product you will likely never see produced again. Ivan is busting his ass for not only handling and shuffling around hundreds of orders but will also have to deal with packaging everything up. Show some ****ing patience and gratitude!
LOL Ivan hasn't taken a new order in months, the only "shuffling" happening here is customer to customer and Ivan changes the name on his Google Doc.. SOO MUCH WORK.. Fix your glass feelings, I made a generic statement about a product promised to buyers and I'll say it, it's not a coincidence that amount of people dropping out.
To be fair, Sergeant_Shart previously mentioned his impatience was with PLUM and not with Ivan. Perhaps he should have reiterated that instead of asserting that Ivan hasn't done much work with this GB lately which - true or not - is irrelevant. Ivan has moved quickly with all the parts under his control.
Post by: j0hnny on Wed, 01 October 2014, 10:30:10
Post by: spookymikal on Wed, 01 October 2014, 14:14:01
Post by: Karura on Wed, 01 October 2014, 18:39:42
I'm guessing IMSTOs thick PBT aren't plum, but maybe someone knows better
Post by: tbc on Wed, 01 October 2014, 20:06:58
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 01 October 2014, 20:30:51
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:01:08
Post by: spookymikal on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:34:22
There is pictures of some Plum produced stuff through the thread if you want to roll back through it.
For the lazy:
I think these are Plum PBT caps with pad printing (not dyesub like you're getting)
(http://www39.tx8cdn.com/photo/xiaqoli/plum96_005.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9yXOT55.png)
These are POM not PBT but made by Plum (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49081.0)
Ivan, you also made some posts back in march about samples being produced but then they changed the material supplier from the japanese one to du point. Did you get any samples of those pictures so we can get an idea of the thickness?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 02 October 2014, 09:53:29
I haven't gotten any samples, pics of samples or any further updates out of them for awhile now. I will have to go chasing after them I suppose.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 02 October 2014, 11:58:53
Post by: connorelsea on Thu, 02 October 2014, 21:54:10
Post by: TBone on Thu, 02 October 2014, 22:38:06
Are these still for sale? I've been looking for blank black PBT key caps forever!
No, but you may be able to pick up someone's order or find some in the classifieds once they ship.
Post by: minho on Fri, 03 October 2014, 00:13:13
Are these still for sale? I've been looking for blank black PBT key caps forever!
If Ivan's down with it, I'd be happy to transfer an order to you.
Post by: TLExile on Fri, 03 October 2014, 04:19:26
Are these still for sale? I've been looking for blank black PBT key caps forever!
If Ivan's down with it, I'd be happy to transfer an order to you.
Damn that if only i could get in on that^
Post by: zippox on Fri, 03 October 2014, 07:30:21
Post by: spookymikal on Fri, 03 October 2014, 09:58:18
This GB must be frustrating for Ivan. Keep a positive attitude and soon this will be over! :D
Judging by the length of time most people have been waiting, I'd venture that Ivan isn't the only one frustrated.
I don't mind personally, since I literally got in on the GB a few weeks ago, but reading through this thread start to finish, I could definitely see being frustrated if I'd been waiting from the beginning. As far back as April people were being told the caps would be "entering production shortly! Just a few more weeks!"
And it's not like it's Ivan's fault. He's just repeating the information given to him and assuming that it was accurate and true information.
Post by: CK Briefs on Fri, 03 October 2014, 11:12:01
This GB must be frustrating for Ivan. Keep a positive attitude and soon this will be over! :D
Judging by the length of time most people have been waiting, I'd venture that Ivan isn't the only one frustrated.
I don't mind personally, since I literally got in on the GB a few weeks ago, but reading through this thread start to finish, I could definitely see being frustrated if I'd been waiting from the beginning. As far back as April people were being told the caps would be "entering production shortly! Just a few more weeks!"
And it's not like it's Ivan's fault. He's just repeating the information given to him and assuming that it was accurate and true information.
Lol your comment reminded me that this started in Nov last year.
Ah, how time flies :/
Post by: connorelsea on Fri, 03 October 2014, 15:01:03
Are these still for sale? I've been looking for blank black PBT key caps forever!
If Ivan's down with it, I'd be happy to transfer an order to you.
I'm new here and I've heard some bad things about group buys on this forum. Especially from reddit, but I don't really know what's true or not. What exactly are group buys and why is this one taking so long?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 03 October 2014, 15:10:32
Are these still for sale? I've been looking for blank black PBT key caps forever!
If Ivan's down with it, I'd be happy to transfer an order to you.
I'm new here and I've heard some bad things about group buys on this forum. Especially from reddit, but I don't really know what's true or not. What exactly are group buys and why is this one taking so long?
First of all a group buy is a bunch of fellow enthusiasts pooling their resources to purchase things they otherwise wouldn't be able to get and/or get for a decent price. In this case a keyset which didn't exist.
Ivan was very clear and has been that this would all be a learning process for this set. I believe a bulk of the time after orders ended was spent finding a proper plastic to be used to actually make these so they could be properly dye-subed.
Honestly the biggest problem with group buys is people who don't know what they are getting into.
Post by: strict on Fri, 03 October 2014, 17:13:10
First of all a group buy is a bunch of fellow enthusiasts pooling their resources to purchase things they otherwise wouldn't be able to get and/or get for a decent price. In this case a keyset which didn't exist.
Ivan was very clear and has been that this would all be a learning process for this set. I believe a bulk of the time after orders ended was spent finding a proper plastic to be used to actually make these so they could be properly dye-subed.
Honestly the biggest problem with group buys is people who don't know what they are getting into.
+1
This group buy isn't taking that long, we just have a very vocal minority that has unrealistic expectations.
Also, dont trust 96% of what you read on reddit. There was a post on the front page today that is very fitting for this situation - "The more I read comments on reddit about things I know about, the more I see that I should stop trusting comments on things I know nothing about." (https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/2i4cx8/the_more_i_read_comments_on_reddit_about_things_i/)
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 03 October 2014, 17:29:48
Honestly the biggest problem with group buys is people who don't know what they are getting into.This.
It looks like most people who have never participated in a GB think it is just collecting money, handing it over and then walking away with the product. So anything over 2 months becomes "long".
Especially for the prices we manage to negotiate, production is in line with what you can expect. And if anything goes wrong (f.e. Wrong plastic), you miss a production slot and a buy gets delayed.
Only because of the experience of some of the GB organizers (Ivan, Matt, Bunnylake, to name a few) and some improved systems like at Signature Plastics we have seen some pretty quick GBs in the last year or so. Before that it was not uncommon for them to take around a year to materialize. Round 4 (http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/doubleshot-replacements-round-4-t1376.html) for example took nearly 2 years because of the complexity. That is why Ivan has drastically decreased the number of options.
But there have been a few rotten apples. People who took the money, started production and because life intervened were never able to deliver. Or some people who outright scammed people.
These are fortunately very rare.
As always buyer beware and if something feels off, don't participate.
If you expect it to be delivered on time, don't bother. Pretty much every project in business gets delayed and we don't even have the business clause necessary to do something about it.
It is based on trust, but that trust sometimes delivers truly special things for a mish-mash of people from this community and others...
Post by: spookymikal on Fri, 03 October 2014, 17:39:39
Can't wait.
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 03 October 2014, 17:42:30
Won't it be nice when 3d printing gets to a point that it can replace the need for group buys?Instant gratification FTW!
Can't wait.
Then you will be waiting for the designers to come up with designs though. ;)
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 03 October 2014, 21:17:57
Post by: demik on Fri, 03 October 2014, 21:21:20
I've been in this for a while and am actually enjoying it. The wait is part of the experience, especially for a set like this.
don't lie to yourself.
waiting sucks, period. it's part of gb's, but it still sucks.
Post by: connorelsea on Fri, 03 October 2014, 21:29:21
Honestly the biggest problem with group buys is people who don't know what they are getting into.Before that it was not uncommon for them to take around a year to materialize. Round 4 (http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/doubleshot-replacements-round-4-t1376.html) for example took nearly 2 years because of the complexity. That is why Ivan has drastically decreased the number of options.
Sorry for being so new, but why are they called rounds? And what are people referencing in that thread when they are referring to prior rounds. Just wondering. Seems to be important if you can simply refer to it as Round 4 and people know what it is.
Post by: JaccoW on Sun, 05 October 2014, 11:23:02
The 'Round' part refers to a specific groupbuy. In this case one organized by 7Bit which is similar to one he organized before. He is currently doing a Round 5 (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Round_5) which is supposed to ship by the end of October. :)Honestly the biggest problem with group buys is people who don't know what they are getting into.Before that it was not uncommon for them to take around a year to materialize. Round 4 (http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/doubleshot-replacements-round-4-t1376.html) for example took nearly 2 years because of the complexity. That is why Ivan has drastically decreased the number of options.
Sorry for being so new, but why are they called rounds? And what are people referencing in that thread when they are referring to prior rounds. Just wondering. Seems to be important if you can simply refer to it as Round 4 and people know what it is.
If something turns out to be very popular, a lot of people usually come in late because they didn't know a GB was happening. If enough people are interested the GB organizer might decide to do another round.
Just like Ivan had a PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328).
There is nothing more to it. It's mostly shorthand.
In most cases people refer to the set itself. Like CMYK and Purple GMK mods (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017), CMYW (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54039), GMK RGBY (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54442) or Skull Squadron DSA (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54334.0). Not to be confused with the new round of Skull Squadron in DCS-profile. ;)
Other example: Lightsaver V2 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.0;topicseen) (which has some slight improvements over the V1)
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 05 October 2014, 23:49:31
The 'Round' part refers to a specific groupbuy. In this case one organized by 7Bit which is similar to one he organized before. He is currently doing a Round 5 (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Round_5) which is supposed to ship by the end of October. :)Honestly the biggest problem with group buys is people who don't know what they are getting into.Before that it was not uncommon for them to take around a year to materialize. Round 4 (http://deskthority.net/group-buys-f50/doubleshot-replacements-round-4-t1376.html) for example took nearly 2 years because of the complexity. That is why Ivan has drastically decreased the number of options.
Sorry for being so new, but why are they called rounds? And what are people referencing in that thread when they are referring to prior rounds. Just wondering. Seems to be important if you can simply refer to it as Round 4 and people know what it is.
If something turns out to be very popular, a lot of people usually come in late because they didn't know a GB was happening. If enough people are interested the GB organizer might decide to do another round.
Just like Ivan had a PBT dyesub 104/105 set ROUND 2 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43328).
There is nothing more to it. It's mostly shorthand.
In most cases people refer to the set itself. Like CMYK and Purple GMK mods (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41017), CMYW (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54039), GMK RGBY (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54442) or Skull Squadron DSA (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54334.0). Not to be confused with the new round of Skull Squadron in DCS-profile. ;)
Other example: Lightsaver V2 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56877.0;topicseen) (which has some slightimprovementschanges over the V1)
V1 case for LIFE.
But in all seriousness, I've been scammed twice since joining GH one year ago, and got my money back on one of those accounts. I've lost MAYBE 3% of total invested cash.
Post by: bueller on Mon, 06 October 2014, 00:08:30
Post by: Karura on Mon, 06 October 2014, 01:08:05
Amateurs. I'm still waiting for an alu case I paid for last NOVEMBER.Which one would that be?
Post by: bueller on Mon, 06 October 2014, 01:18:33
Amateurs. I'm still waiting for an alu case I paid for last NOVEMBER.Which one would that be?
Alixinhzai's GB - it's supposed to be in the post but I'm starting to think it's been misplaced or delivered to the wrong address because I've been waiting like a month for it.
Post by: bazh on Mon, 06 October 2014, 02:02:35
I've been in this for a while and am actually enjoying it. The wait is part of the experience, especially for a set like this.
don't lie to yourself.
waiting sucks, period. it's part of gb's, but it still sucks.
it's only sucks if you remember
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 06 October 2014, 11:57:38
I've been in this for a while and am actually enjoying it. The wait is part of the experience, especially for a set like this.
don't lie to yourself.
waiting sucks, period. it's part of gb's, but it still sucks.
it's only sucks if you remember
Amateurs. I'm still waiting for an alu case I paid for last NOVEMBER.Which one would that be?
Alixinhzai's GB - it's supposed to be in the post but I'm starting to think it's been misplaced or delivered to the wrong address because I've been waiting like a month for it.
sorry to hear it bueller, I finally got mine the other week.
@bazh: I couldnt agree more. I never remember what I've bought.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 07 October 2014, 10:12:06
Post by: boost on Tue, 07 October 2014, 10:13:02
I've been told again 'soon' but I'm not sure what 'soon' means at PLUM. :/
-_-
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Tue, 07 October 2014, 12:15:56
Post by: dante on Tue, 07 October 2014, 12:19:23
I've been told again 'soon' but I'm not sure what 'soon' means at PLUM. :/
I'm not sure what else they could possibly be working on. You don't see a ton of their PBT's for sale and a quick glance at TaoBao shows their keyboard line is dwindling down.
I still want their POM's but after this I'd understand it if you didn't want to run a GB on them. :(
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 07 October 2014, 15:40:23
I bought a crappy DCS set to tie me over and have since moved on to other things.
These are just something I'll be excited to get when they come.
Post by: MsYutai on Tue, 07 October 2014, 16:01:10
Soon what though? Soon, they'll have pics, soon they'll have a first set, soon they'll be shipped? Soon is very very vague lol
Indeed, once the keys are made we have to wait for them to get shipped overseas(!) to Ivan... then wait for Ivan to pack 'em up... then more wait for them to actually arrive at my house. I think we will be lucky if we get them before Christmas at this point.
Post by: strict on Tue, 07 October 2014, 18:24:35
ABS can look exactly like PBT, I've never seen plum and signed on when it was still 'IMSTO THICK PBT' we have pretty much no idea what these caps are going to feel like only a fuzzy example of what they will resemble in appearance.
Imsto was and still is who will be doing the dye-sublimation. So technically, these are just as much "Imsto" keys as the KBC produced sets would have been.
Indeed, once the keys are made we have to wait for them to get shipped overseas(!) to Ivan... then wait for Ivan to pack 'em up... then more wait for them to actually arrive at my house. I think we will be lucky if we get them before Christmas at this point.
A minor clarification; after all the key sets have been manufactured they get shipped to Imsto for dye-sublimation, once that is complete everything (blanks and dye-subs) gets shipped to Ivan who will then package up everyones orders and send them out.
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 07 October 2014, 18:30:35
ABS can look exactly like PBT, I've never seen plum and signed on when it was still 'IMSTO THICK PBT' we have pretty much no idea what these caps are going to feel like only a fuzzy example of what they will resemble in appearance.
Imsto was and still is who will be doing the dye-sublimation. So technically, these are just as much "Imsto" keys as the KBC produced sets would have been.Indeed, once the keys are made we have to wait for them to get shipped overseas(!) to Ivan... then wait for Ivan to pack 'em up... then more wait for them to actually arrive at my house. I think we will be lucky if we get them before Christmas at this point.
A minor clarification; after all the key sets have been manufactured they get shipped to Imsto for dye-sublimation, once that is complete everything (blanks and dye-subs) gets shipped to Ivan who will then package up everyones orders and send them out.
Strict is correct on both accounts. These are IMSTO dyesub, the plastic is special PBT that Plum went through some effort of sourcing, so I'm very curious to see how it holds up to the pbt we know. [PBT is sold under about 7 commercial names in the USA alone.]
Post by: tbc on Tue, 07 October 2014, 22:14:22
we all know ivan has been working on dolch for the last little while. it's not like it'd be reasonable for us to expect him to sort another 250 sets so soon.
Post by: jvarg on Wed, 08 October 2014, 10:02:48
Post by: TBone on Wed, 08 October 2014, 12:26:27
Post by: jalthi on Wed, 08 October 2014, 19:38:14
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 09 October 2014, 02:10:13
Ivan, how would you characterize this GB so far - I know it's the first time using Plum, would you consider using them again given the production time and communication from them?
Ivan said on a previous page that he most likely will never use PLUM again for his GBs.
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 09 October 2014, 02:55:38
Ivan, how would you characterize this GB so far - I know it's the first time using Plum, would you consider using them again given the production time and communication from them?
Ivan said on a previous page that he most likely will never use PLUM again for his GBs.
Sooo.... can GMK do doubleshot POM? I'd love a set of Cherry profile WoB doubleshot POM caps. I hate that the legends on most POM caps are lasered since I love the feeling of the material, but don't want to feel the legends.
Post by: tbc on Thu, 09 October 2014, 04:29:27
love the feeling of the material, but don't want to feel the legends.
SOOOO much this.
especially on the f and j keys, whrre the legend is more noticable than the dash. terribad idea.
Post by: maxmalkav on Thu, 09 October 2014, 06:44:31
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 09 October 2014, 08:22:59
Post by: spookymikal on Thu, 09 October 2014, 09:53:52
love the feeling of the material, but don't want to feel the legends.
SOOOO much this.
especially on the f and j keys, whrre the legend is more noticable than the dash. terribad idea.
yeah feeling legends is what started me down this "gotta replace the caps" kick
Post by: dante on Thu, 09 October 2014, 10:32:04
Hard to say if I will work with Plum again. They are the only ones besides Cherry themselves that do Cherry profile POM.
Ivan,
I'm sure you have an upset stomach over this so you probably want this to be done ASAP. That being said, PLUM has done POM keycaps before - this shouldn't be a mystery to them; and since a potential POM GB may likely only offer blanks - maybe side printed as a 2nd option - it should be much more simple than this one.
Like I said before - I've never run a successful GB before - but if you can do the basic things I will take on full responsibility for packing and shipping orders so it's off your plate. If anything, you could use the POM GB as leverage to get more accurate PBT feedback "We are ready to start ordering POM keycaps but can't begin until the PBT's are done..."
Obviously in the largest size font/brightest color possible participants to a POM GB will be warned it may take up to a year for a product to be delivered - one that will likely never be produced again. Even if you are not interested in POM - you could buy in and resell these sets on ebay for a profit.
POM is starting to disappear in Asia - Keycool doesn't really use it anymore, the Cherry G80-18XX boards are being phased out, Neo Zelia are switching over to PBT. I'm afraid it's only a matter of time before it becomes extinct.
Post by: frosty on Thu, 09 October 2014, 12:06:09
Hard to say if I will work with Plum again. They are the only ones besides Cherry themselves that do Cherry profile POM.
Ivan,
I'm sure you have an upset stomach over this so you probably want this to be done ASAP. That being said, PLUM has done POM keycaps before - this shouldn't be a mystery to them; and since a potential POM GB may likely only offer blanks - maybe side printed as a 2nd option - it should be much more simple than this one.
Like I said before - I've never run a successful GB before - but if you can do the basic things I will take on full responsibility for packing and shipping orders so it's off your plate. If anything, you could use the POM GB as leverage to get more accurate PBT feedback "We are ready to start ordering POM keycaps but can't begin until the PBT's are done..."
Obviously in the largest size font/brightest color possible participants to a POM GB will be warned it may take up to a year for a product to be delivered - one that will likely never be produced again. Even if you are not interested in POM - you could buy in and resell these sets on ebay for a profit.
POM is starting to disappear in Asia - Keycool doesn't really use it anymore, the Cherry G80-18XX boards are being phased out, Neo Zelia are switching over to PBT. I'm afraid it's only a matter of time before it becomes extinct.
Preserve the good stuff!
Post by: spookymikal on Thu, 09 October 2014, 13:27:13
Not giving detailed status updates is really bad for business. There's absolutely no good reason that in the year 2014 they can't produce a cell phone image or two of these hot off the presses. Even without producing pictures, they can give you a lot more information than "soon." Did production start as scheduled? Have they run into more problems with the quality of the plastic? Do they expect them to be done by date x?
It's gonna be a real shame if these caps come out perfect and the decision is made to not go with Plum anymore because of their lack of customer support.
Post by: bueller on Tue, 14 October 2014, 01:51:23
Post by: Mooby on Tue, 14 October 2014, 08:40:07
Post by: FingerPunch on Tue, 14 October 2014, 17:24:03
Ready to sell off your set anyone? :'(
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Wed, 15 October 2014, 08:13:46
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
Post by: bueller on Wed, 15 October 2014, 08:33:43
I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:01:43
I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Post by: bueller on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:04:51
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Wed, 15 October 2014, 09:24:21
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
Post by: roman797 on Wed, 15 October 2014, 15:17:02
Post by: Psybin on Wed, 15 October 2014, 15:46:06
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 15 October 2014, 15:51:22
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 15 October 2014, 16:24:04
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
I will echo this. I am 100% confident that Ivan is not toying with us. If he wanted to take our money and bail, he wouldn't keep posting here. ;)
He just simply does not have anything else to say, so it's always better to hear him continually repeating the same thing than to hear radio silence until he gets an update (because in that case we don't know if there is nothing to report, or if something happened to him).
It'll all be fine, just relax and let it run its course. :) (from our end, of course - I'm not suggesting Ivan takes a passive approach here :P )
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 15 October 2014, 16:48:22
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
^ This 100% ^
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Wed, 15 October 2014, 18:52:02
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
I'm not implying anything. Why is it this website is always in search of an underlining assumption? It's a pretty simple statement, do we even have an account, no one seems to know just regurgitating the same "IVAN IS LIKE THE BEST" statements. I get it Ivan is great, I'm not questioning him.
Post by: dante on Wed, 15 October 2014, 18:53:31
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
I'm not implying anything. Why is it this website is always in search of an underlining assumption? It's a pretty simple statement, do we even have an account, no one seems to know just regurgitating the same "IVAN IS LIKE THE BEST" statements. I get it Ivan is great, I'm not questioning him.
IVAN IS LIKE THE BEST
Post by: j0hnny on Thu, 16 October 2014, 15:37:53
Yep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
I'm not implying anything. Why is it this website is always in search of an underlining assumption? It's a pretty simple statement, do we even have an account, no one seems to know just regurgitating the same "IVAN IS LIKE THE BEST" statements. I get it Ivan is great, I'm not questioning him.
Post by: Unknown01011010 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 20:40:01
I for one will admit that I am impatient, and I have some anxiety because of this. I am probably not emotionally capable of participating in most group buys because of this anxiety, and that is my fault, so I am not going to take it out on any one.
I will just wait for this one to finish, whatever happens, happens. But I do appreciate that Ivan is bringing us some exclusive keycaps that will really make me feel as cool as **** and elite when I type on them, especially since this might be the only time keycaps like this will be available. So if you are like me, the wait will be worth it, because these keycaps are going to be so rare and you will be like a mythical keyboard wizarrd everytime you post your keyboard with these things on them!
Peace!
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 16 October 2014, 21:02:51
Post by: tbc on Thu, 16 October 2014, 21:20:15
seems to me you're just being a diva. just sit tight and wait like the rest of usYep me neither, I wouldn't imagine we'd be on an account seeing that it's out first order with Plum.I think the #1 question at this point is, did we pay them up front?I think you'll find these buys are always pay up front.
If we did, I'm worried. Pretty much radio silence at this point.
If I worked for a manufacturer (I do), I wouldn't accept a smaller order from an untrusted customer without prior payment. But that's just me.
Has there been proof we're even on an account? All I've seen Ivan receive is "Soon" for literally everything.
I'm not sure what you are implying but of all the group buy organizers I would say Ivan is easily one of the most trusted here. He will get you guys the caps, he is just as aggravated at the slow responses as anyone. If he had more to share he would.
I'm not implying anything. Why is it this website is always in search of an underlining assumption? It's a pretty simple statement, do we even have an account, no one seems to know just regurgitating the same "IVAN IS LIKE THE BEST" statements. I get it Ivan is great, I'm not questioning him.
+1
Post by: memarin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 03:48:53
New here. Just wondering if this GB still on going? Those Ivan still accepts order?
Thanks!
Post by: Karura on Sun, 19 October 2014, 04:25:02
Hi,
New here. Just wondering if this GB still on going? Those Ivan still accepts order?
Thanks!
Orders are closed. It's in production. To join, you would have to take over a pre-existing order.
Post by: memarin on Sun, 19 October 2014, 05:13:10
Orders are closed. It's in production. To join, you would have to take over a pre-existing order.
Thanks for the clarification
Post by: bueller on Tue, 21 October 2014, 11:14:41
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 21 October 2014, 11:21:37
yeah... I still have no idea the ETA for real.
Post by: Karura on Tue, 21 October 2014, 12:29:29
Since I'm no familiar with PLUM, what is the current situation with our order?Show Image(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/36185330.jpg)
yeah... I still have no idea the ETA for real.
Is it radio silence, or refusal to give us an estimated completion time?
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 21 October 2014, 18:02:41
Since I'm no familiar with PLUM, what is the current situation with our order?
Is it radio silence, or refusal to give us an estimated completion time?
The past few pages' discussion indicates that it's pretty much that PLUM doesn't talk much.
Post by: lolkey on Wed, 22 October 2014, 10:26:45
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 22 October 2014, 10:34:12
Anyone know if the stepped caps lock key is centered stem?
Yeah it comes with both. Was thinking he was asking about full touch for some reason.
Full touch capslock -> center stem
stepped capslock -> off-center stem
Post by: Sulianjeo on Wed, 29 October 2014, 03:59:56
Post by: Ridillz on Wed, 29 October 2014, 05:47:24
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Wed, 29 October 2014, 09:53:34
Post by: j0hnny on Fri, 31 October 2014, 15:20:09
Post by: strict on Fri, 31 October 2014, 15:24:15
^ awesome. enjoy and leave us patient gbuyers at peace ;D
+1
Post by: 00zeRO on Fri, 31 October 2014, 15:31:27
^ awesome. enjoy and leave us patient gbuyers at peace ;D
Nooooice
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 31 October 2014, 16:30:20
Post by: strict on Fri, 31 October 2014, 17:02:09
Post by: t2russo on Fri, 31 October 2014, 17:04:01
All that being said, I'm still excited and hopeful for the end product. I have high hopes for the black on black dyesub.
Post by: KatzenKinder on Fri, 31 October 2014, 17:52:34
Post by: j0hnny on Fri, 31 October 2014, 18:00:02
but this set is going on my main board. can't wait.
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 31 October 2014, 18:13:14
[...] I planned keyboards around this group buy and have had to adapt, I know I've ended up spending more money as a result of delays.Looking at your avatar I'm guessing you were planning an all-black board?
What did you have in mind? :)
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 31 October 2014, 18:18:06
Post by: lolkey on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:17:44
PS: Don't be upset if I randomly change my mind and decide to keep them.
Post by: bueller on Wed, 05 November 2014, 19:23:26
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 05 November 2014, 21:04:32
Think I might tapout again, the new GTX 970 are very tempting. If you have interest in a blank black set PM ME.
PS: Don't be upset if I randomly change my mind and decide to keep them.
Sent you a pm!
Post by: cookiesowns on Thu, 06 November 2014, 01:18:15
lol for real. I just bought two infinity boards, each with a set of blank black pbts.
but this set is going on my main board. can't wait.
Hah. While waiting for several other GB's, and also this one, I picked up myself 2 infinity boards each with PBT's, Case, 2 Pokers and them DSA infinity caps. Most likely should arrive all around the same time. Best Christmas ever?
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 06 November 2014, 05:22:40
Really thought we would have heard something out of these wankers by now, what a terrible way to run a business.
+1
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 06 November 2014, 08:36:05
Post by: KaLam1ty on Thu, 06 November 2014, 08:47:07
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 06 November 2014, 11:49:53
Again, no hate to Ivan because I'm well aware he's the awesome of the awesome and I'm sure he's calling them daily.
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 06 November 2014, 21:37:32
Post by: Lu_e on Thu, 06 November 2014, 22:00:58
Post by: tbc on Thu, 06 November 2014, 22:06:01
A record setting group buy
?
what record?
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 06 November 2014, 22:17:40
A record setting group buy
Hardly. I'm far from seasoned and even I know there are many examples of buys that have taken this long or longer. Many people have already pointed out that we're about halfway to how long some of the Honeywell buys have taken.
Post by: neunelfer on Thu, 06 November 2014, 22:37:58
Don't you remember those pictures posted months ago in like 92p, those were the pictures, I think they were caps. Thinking about it now though it could have just been a black pixel. It's officially fishy, end of this month and we're bordering on a scamish feel.
Again, no hate to Ivan because I'm well aware he's the awesome of the awesome and I'm sure he's calling them daily.
qq and gtfo already, jesus
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 06 November 2014, 22:39:57
Don't you remember those pictures posted months ago in like 92p, those were the pictures, I think they were caps. Thinking about it now though it could have just been a black pixel. It's officially fishy, end of this month and we're bordering on a scamish feel.If you're so dissatisfied with how things are going, perhaps you should find someone to take over your order. I'm sure you could find a willing participant.
Again, no hate to Ivan because I'm well aware he's the awesome of the awesome and I'm sure he's calling them daily.
Post by: rangke on Thu, 06 November 2014, 23:40:37
I was thinking of buying Blank Keycap sets and Standard Adapter Packs.
Post by: GSimon on Fri, 07 November 2014, 00:00:21
HOwwwweeverr, would be nice if Ivan would share some insight into the logistics of this. Do you call them and they just don't answer? If they answer do they just say 'soon' and hang up? Are you contacting them by e-mail? Have you contacted them this month at all???
You know, just little things to help keep our sanity in check and bring us in the know as to what is happening.
Post by: bueller on Fri, 07 November 2014, 00:17:17
Post by: tbc on Fri, 07 November 2014, 02:01:41
+111111111Don't you remember those pictures posted months ago in like 92p, those were the pictures, I think they were caps. Thinking about it now though it could have just been a black pixel. It's officially fishy, end of this month and we're bordering on a scamish feel.
Again, no hate to Ivan because I'm well aware he's the awesome of the awesome and I'm sure he's calling them daily.
qq and gtfo already, jesus
Post by: ironic moustache on Fri, 07 November 2014, 05:26:17
EDIT: Spoken for.
Post by: zippox on Fri, 07 November 2014, 07:38:48
I'm curious how the texture will feel of these new ones compared to my "seasoned" ones.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 07 November 2014, 07:41:09
Don't you remember those pictures posted months ago in like 92p, those were the pictures, I think they were caps. Thinking about it now though it could have just been a black pixel. It's officially fishy, end of this month and we're bordering on a scamish feel.
Again, no hate to Ivan because I'm well aware he's the awesome of the awesome and I'm sure he's calling them daily.
qq and gtfo already, jesus
Buy me out then, $300, verified Paypal accounts only.
Post by: zippox on Fri, 07 November 2014, 07:50:39
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 07 November 2014, 08:26:47
Sergeant, come on. Let's be mature here. You've been full of drama this entire group buy.
I used to just ask for updates then guys like Sh0rty and Pr0ximity decided they'd start stirring the pot a bit and antagonizing me because I want more information, well, I'll play along. I'm not the only dude looking for answers and I'm also not the only one speaking out, I am however the only one being ridiculed.
Post by: dante on Fri, 07 November 2014, 08:53:18
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 07 November 2014, 09:02:56
PLUM really screwed themselves as a POM group buy was to follow this one. Nope nope nope. :(
That is how I feel as well :(
Post by: strict on Fri, 07 November 2014, 09:18:34
I used to just ask for updates then guys like Sh0rty and Pr0ximity decided they'd start stirring the pot a bit and antagonizing me because I want more information, well, I'll play along. I'm not the only dude looking for answers and I'm also not the only one speaking out, I am however the only one being ridiculed.
You're not being unjustly ridiculed, people are tired of your querulousness. Beyond that, I've seen at least one or two other bellyachers here that got called out on it just like you.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 07 November 2014, 09:32:34
I used to just ask for updates then guys like Sh0rty and Pr0ximity decided they'd start stirring the pot a bit and antagonizing me because I want more information, well, I'll play along. I'm not the only dude looking for answers and I'm also not the only one speaking out, I am however the only one being ridiculed.
You're not being unjustly ridiculed, people are tired of your querulousness. Beyond that, I've seen at least one or two other bellyachers here that got called out on it just like you.
2 options:
1. Ivan gets an update.
2. I keep asking for one.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 07 November 2014, 10:52:26
Post by: tbc on Fri, 07 November 2014, 10:58:04
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
um...
i will take it and pay the extra shipping costs. i wanted as dark as possible anyways.
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 07 November 2014, 11:01:33
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
Too bad. I bet a lot of people with blank orders would be okay with or even prefer overly dark caps but I understand there are additional costs to dividing up the shipping like that.
Post by: t2russo on Fri, 07 November 2014, 11:06:51
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
Back to KBC for Round 4 I hope....
Post by: spookymikal on Fri, 07 November 2014, 11:15:44
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
um...
i will take it and pay the extra shipping costs. i wanted as dark as possible anyways.
same lol
Post by: dante on Fri, 07 November 2014, 12:11:07
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
Back to KBC for Round 4 I hope....
Does anyone know how to reach KBC? [I can't even find their website]
I know someone who can communicate in Mandarin and was thinking of asking if they could chat up KBC into making some Rainbow POM keycaps.
Post by: bueller on Fri, 07 November 2014, 12:15:06
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
Man that sucks. If it helps I'm happy to go ahead still, I was always under the impression that the sublimation would be very 'under the radar'.
Post by: Six on Fri, 07 November 2014, 12:32:22
Any pictures of the new contrast?
Does PBT normally darken a bit during molding?
Post by: Schwarz on Fri, 07 November 2014, 17:33:09
Post by: Lu_e on Fri, 07 November 2014, 21:59:33
zzz
Post by: jackalope on Fri, 07 November 2014, 22:06:51
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 07 November 2014, 23:47:05
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 08 November 2014, 01:05:25
Post by: bueller on Sat, 08 November 2014, 01:17:00
Same thing as since the beginning. We want it dark as can be while still light enough you can see legends dyesubbed. It's a thin line and pretty demanding really. It's a fairly demanding request, and they are making an effort.
Fair anough mate, I'm still along for the ride! Not like we have any other options for blank/cherry pbt caps.
Post by: pr0ximity on Sat, 08 November 2014, 09:45:15
Fair anough mate, I'm still along for the ride! Not like we have any other options for blank/cherry pbt caps.
Indeed, super excited to hear that progress is being made, even if it means extending the production process even longer. It's good to know that sufficient quality control is in place so that at the end of a long process the result should be worth the wait.
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 08 November 2014, 09:59:36
Same thing as since the beginning. We want it dark as can be while still light enough you can see legends dyesubbed. It's a thin line and pretty demanding really. It's a fairly demanding request, and they are making an effort.
Fair anough mate, I'm still along for the ride! Not like we have any other options for blank/cherry pbt caps.
What about leopold and vortex? They've both run blank black PBT in cherry profile lately.
for clarification: I have three sets in this buy, just letting other people know there are options.
Post by: bueller on Sat, 08 November 2014, 10:03:59
Same thing as since the beginning. We want it dark as can be while still light enough you can see legends dyesubbed. It's a thin line and pretty demanding really. It's a fairly demanding request, and they are making an effort.
Fair anough mate, I'm still along for the ride! Not like we have any other options for blank/cherry pbt caps.
What about leopold and vortex? They've both run blank black PBT in cherry profile lately.
for clarification: I have three sets in this buy, just letting other people know there are options.
I was under the impression that those were close to Cherry profile but not quite the same, might have to give them a look.
Post by: strict on Sat, 08 November 2014, 10:13:55
What about leopold and vortex? They've both run blank black PBT in cherry profile lately.
for clarification: I have three sets in this buy, just letting other people know there are options.
The black Leopold sets don't come in blank, only side-print. I would have bought a set in a nanosecond if they came in blank black.
The Vortex sets seem to be of mediocre quality. I've seen at least a couple people complaining about seeing the cruciform molding being visible on the top of the key as well as unsightly sprue marks.
Help us, Ivan, you're our only hope! :))
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 08 November 2014, 11:42:03
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 08 November 2014, 11:54:30
What about leopold and vortex? They've both run blank black PBT in cherry profile lately.
for clarification: I have three sets in this buy, just letting other people know there are options.
The black Leopold sets don't come in blank, only side-print. I would have bought a set in a nanosecond if they came in blank black.
The Vortex sets seem to be of mediocre quality. I've seen at least a couple people complaining about seeing the cruciform molding being visible on the top of the key as well as unsightly sprue marks.
Help us, Ivan, you're our only hope! :))
Ah my bad, I thought the leo ones came in blank too.
I was aware Vortex was of lesser quality, but we don't even know how these caps are gonna be. :p
I decided to hang out and see what we get anyway, seems fun.
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
um...
i will take it and pay the extra shipping costs. i wanted as dark as possible anyways.
Apparently there is more problem with the PBT material color. It came out too dark and can't be dyesub on.
Man that sucks. If it helps I'm happy to go ahead still, I was always under the impression that the sublimation would be very 'under the radar'.
Yeah I would probably buy the extra dark ones :p
zzz
I would want them darker too.
I wanted an invisible text from the beginning.
edit: because I'm not just saying this for faster keys.
I would actually PREFER the darker black.
Post by: AKmalamute on Sat, 08 November 2014, 12:00:36
Post by: patthebaker17 on Sat, 08 November 2014, 13:42:22
just wondering what is the exact situation we are in? Since the caps came out too dark, are they going to do another production run? I am patiently waiting for my grail of caps but the wait would be easier knowing how much longer. I know there is no exact date but should we expect these before the new year?
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 08 November 2014, 16:49:36
Hello guys, this isn't my first gb but it is my most anticipated one
just wondering what is the exact situation we are in? Since the caps came out too dark, are they going to do another production run? I am patiently waiting for my grail of caps but the wait would be easier knowing how much longer. I know there is no exact date but should we expect these before the new year?
Glad to see you come out of hiding!
Gbs are quite exciting and I've been anticipating this one too.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't expect them before the new year, no.
The caps WILL be made, so I assume they're just trying again.
And we will get them soontm.
Post by: Veteranos on Sun, 09 November 2014, 06:48:02
thats a small step forward :D
Post by: spookymikal on Thu, 13 November 2014, 11:31:21
I suppose there's no chance at buying the 'failures' at a reduced cost ? Plenty of folks here would be satisfied and if there was a discount for their learning experience, you could extend the buy to new, different folks.
I would absolutely pick up a set of "rejects" for being too dark.
:(
Post by: Yslen on Thu, 13 November 2014, 12:10:14
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 13 November 2014, 14:01:30
I'd be surprised if they'd made any sets. It sounds more like they've done a few sample caps and they're no good...
I just don't get how the prototype could be 'fine' then they go to produce that same thing again and all of a sudden it's 'too dark', what happened there?
Post by: tutuling on Thu, 13 November 2014, 14:27:44
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 13 November 2014, 14:43:41
Bought a set and I no longer needed these set of blank PBTs, if anyone interested in taking over this 1 blank set, drop me a PM.
I'd be interested. Can I see a screenshot of the invoice?
Post by: tutuling on Thu, 13 November 2014, 18:00:19
Bought a set and I no longer needed these set of blank PBTs, if anyone interested in taking over this 1 blank set, drop me a PM.
I'd be interested. Can I see a screenshot of the invoice?
Post by: spearman on Thu, 13 November 2014, 20:28:36
Any idea how they will compare? (Lighter/darker?)
Post by: Lu_e on Sun, 16 November 2014, 17:46:13
I'd be surprised if they'd made any sets. It sounds more like they've done a few sample caps and they're no good...
I just don't get how the prototype could be 'fine' then they go to produce that same thing again and all of a sudden it's 'too dark', what happened there?
The prototype was the first plastic which was a good color, but turned out too soft.
What they then produced was a different 'better' plastic, but turned out too dark apparently.
Post by: geogga on Sun, 16 November 2014, 21:54:05
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:24:12
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 16 November 2014, 22:27:31
Post by: spookymikal on Tue, 18 November 2014, 13:13:28
Any pictures of the issue?
Apparently nobody at plum has a camera phone because to date we've seen zero photographs of these keycaps.
The technology to take pictures just doesn't exist in China i guess.
Post by: GoatMaster on Wed, 19 November 2014, 09:13:22
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 19 November 2014, 11:57:05
Can I still join or the orders already closed?
The "(production)" status in the title of most group buys usually indicates that it's closed for orders and awaiting shipment from the manufacturer.
But if someone is looking to give up their order, you're welcome to take it over. Post what you're hoping for and take a look back through the most recent few pages to see if anyone is.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 19 November 2014, 13:13:58
[attachimg=1]
Think they will be OK but waiting to get some dyesub tested out to see how it ends up.
Post by: geniekid on Wed, 19 November 2014, 13:30:38
Post by: 00zeRO on Wed, 19 November 2014, 13:33:42
Pictures of the underside please :D
(nothing is ever good enough...lol)
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 19 November 2014, 13:47:52
Haha, so true.Pictures of the underside please :D
(nothing is ever good enough...lol)
Post by: strict on Wed, 19 November 2014, 13:53:53
Another round of sample have been delivered to imsto.
(Attachment Link)
Think they will be OK but waiting to get some dyesub tested out to see how it ends up.
(http://i.imgur.com/HWT5NVS.gif)
Post by: TBone on Wed, 19 November 2014, 13:58:24
Another round of sample have been delivered to imsto.
(Attachment Link)
Think they will be OK but waiting to get some dyesub tested out to see how it ends up.
Oh mah god it looks so good even for potato picks! :eek:
Love cherry profile, but we need thickness pics!
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 19 November 2014, 14:03:15
(http://img2.zol.com.cn/product/96/473/ceScabNrAhk2.jpg)
Post by: j0hnny on Wed, 19 November 2014, 15:20:03
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/242/631/382.gif)
Post by: spookymikal on Wed, 19 November 2014, 16:31:55
Another round of sample have been delivered to imsto.
(Attachment Link)
Think they will be OK but waiting to get some dyesub tested out to see how it ends up.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0zwvxI9Sp1qhjbxeo1_400.gif)
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 19 November 2014, 17:40:17
Post by: Lu_e on Wed, 19 November 2014, 19:20:42
Very nice! looks nice and dark... maybe too dark for dyesub :-X
edit; actually, looking at the realforce sets they're darker than I thought so hopefully these are fine.
Post by: tbc on Wed, 19 November 2014, 20:33:16
:llama:
Very nice! looks nice and dark... maybe too dark for dyesub :-X
still not dark enough -_- :p
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 19 November 2014, 20:57:06
I like this one better than Ron Paul.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/YtKWRKk.gif)
Post by: geogga on Wed, 19 November 2014, 23:05:54
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 19 November 2014, 23:10:15
Sorry to sound like idiot, but this GB is closed right? Is the only way to get this via buying someone's spot? Or rather buy their set?Correct
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 20 November 2014, 16:09:26
ps: sry to the bros that tried to pickup my set, i'm sticking with 'em.
Post by: Ridillz on Fri, 21 November 2014, 05:01:48
Post by: Ranguesy on Sat, 22 November 2014, 00:38:30
Post by: frosty on Sat, 22 November 2014, 02:29:52
Would these caps fit on a k70? I know the bottom row on the k70 has some non standard spacing and I have no idea how to figure out if it would fit. (If it does fit, I'd be interested in buying a set of blanks off of someone)
It wont fit the spacebar, ctrl keys, win keys and meta keys. The only 1.25 mods on the K70 are the alt keys.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sun, 23 November 2014, 10:38:32
Another round of sample have been delivered to imsto.
(Attachment Link)
Think they will be OK but waiting to get some dyesub tested out to see how it ends up.
The lighting makes the shot look a bit deceiving but those look really nice and this is progress! Great stuff, can't wait for the blanks to ship:D
Post by: munch on Tue, 25 November 2014, 17:45:48
by the way, there is no chance to add an order for *only* an ANSI enter in blank...? :p
Post by: Hblue on Wed, 26 November 2014, 20:06:50
Post by: FingerPunch on Fri, 05 December 2014, 00:43:03
PBT BLACK 104 1 $55.00 $55.00*
GB fee 1 $3.00 $3.00*
Subtotal $58.00
Shipping/handling $13.00*
ppf(paypal fee) (4%) $2.84
Total $73.84 USD
I bought two sets, but I'm trying to diversify.
sold :thumb:
I will update this post when it's taken.
Post by: nono0044 on Sat, 06 December 2014, 18:07:16
Post by: Synjin on Sat, 06 December 2014, 23:26:57
I have a black blank set that I'd like to transfer, if someone wants to reimburse me.
PBT BLACK 104 1 $55.00 $55.00*
GB fee 1 $3.00 $3.00*
Subtotal $58.00
Shipping/handling $13.00*
ppf(paypal fee) (4%) $2.84
Total $73.84 USD
I bought two sets, but I'm trying to diversify.
I will update this post when it's taken.
Is it still possible for me to take that order?
Post by: malu1989 on Mon, 08 December 2014, 14:27:59
Can't wait to get my hands on them :)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 08 December 2014, 15:35:35
Post by: FingerPunch on Tue, 09 December 2014, 19:09:32
Post by: Psybin on Wed, 10 December 2014, 06:28:27
Is there any rough estimate on ship dates?
Post by: jalthi on Wed, 10 December 2014, 07:20:22
Is there any rough estimate on ship dates?
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56841616.jpg)
Only not really.
I have faith in Ivan and this GB, but I've long since stopped expecting to get these on any kind of reasonable time table. Best to just be pleasantly surprised when they do ship rather than perpetually disappointed when they don't.
Post by: frosty on Wed, 10 December 2014, 08:46:13
I have faith in Ivan and this GB, but I've long since stopped expecting to get these on any kind of reasonable time table. Best to just be pleasantly surprised when they do ship rather than perpetually disappointed when they don't.
Well said.
Post by: spookymikal on Wed, 10 December 2014, 09:01:17
Really looking forward to thess, I've had a cap less board sitting unused all year.
Is there any rough estimate on ship dates?
PLUM, the company who produces the keycaps, has made two sample batches that have been sent out. They technically made 3 batches but the first set was made from plastic that wasn't up to quality so they scrapped it. The second batch came out too dark to dyesub.
Right now the third samples are being sent to the dyesub printer, Imsto. If he says they're light enough to accept the dyesub, then PLUM will finish up production and ship them to the printer to have their legends melted into them, then they go to ivan and get distributed to the rest of us.
If Imsto came back today and said "these are perfect" then it will still probably be 3 months + until we see the actual keycaps.
If they come back too dark still, then it's probably 3 months until he gets the next sample batch to test, and we can expect to receive keycaps at some point before 2017
Blank sets probably won't be sent out until dyesubbing is completed.
It's not clear if plum is sending the samples to Ivan who then sends them to the dyesub printer, or if they are being sent directly to the printer.
NOTE: This is all information gathered from the thread and I have no behind the scenes info on the GB.
Post by: Psybin on Wed, 10 December 2014, 12:08:12
I'm being patient, was just curious if any estimates were out after the samples dropped.
(that and I got a matching BBV1 for the board that these caps are going on)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 10 December 2014, 12:22:05
If they can't get the right color, I may consider going to plan B... which is just take the plain blanks and refunding the dyesub money. There is only so much, and perhaps getting to point where something generally satisfactory is better than continuing to wait indefinitely.
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 11 December 2014, 01:21:26
Yes thanks for the summary. I don't receive nothing, only get photo. PLUM send actual key to imsto, who is in charge of dyesublimation part anyway.
If they can't get the right color, I may consider going to plan B... which is just take the plain blanks and refunding the dyesub money. There is only so much, and perhaps getting to point where something generally satisfactory is better than continuing to wait indefinitely.
If this ends up being what happens, can we go back to the darker samples they had?
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 11 December 2014, 08:35:47
Yes thanks for the summary. I don't receive nothing, only get photo. PLUM send actual key to imsto, who is in charge of dyesublimation part anyway.
If they can't get the right color, I may consider going to plan B... which is just take the plain blanks and refunding the dyesub money. There is only so much, and perhaps getting to point where something generally satisfactory is better than continuing to wait indefinitely.
I don't have a strong opinion on which choice to take but I'm glad you are thinking of alternatives to waiting :thumb:
Post by: zippox on Thu, 11 December 2014, 08:52:55
If this ends up being what happens, can we go back to the darker samples they had?
If I remember correctly the really dark ones were too soft for normal production so I don't think we will be getting those. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 11 December 2014, 08:53:24
Yes thanks for the summary. I don't receive nothing, only get photo. PLUM send actual key to imsto, who is in charge of dyesublimation part anyway.
If they can't get the right color, I may consider going to plan B... which is just take the plain blanks and refunding the dyesub money. There is only so much, and perhaps getting to point where something generally satisfactory is better than continuing to wait indefinitely.
If this ends up being what happens, can we go back to the darker samples they had?
^^This :D If we can't get the dyesubs then I'd like the blanks to be as black as black can be, please.
I still hope the dyesub works so we can get what we ordered, but in case that doesn't work out, I'd love to have dark black blanks.
Post by: geniekid on Thu, 11 December 2014, 09:12:12
If this ends up being what happens, can we go back to the darker samples they had?
If I remember correctly the really dark ones were too soft for normal production so I don't think we will be getting those. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
The softness issues were unrelated to the color issues I believe.
Post by: strict on Thu, 11 December 2014, 10:08:52
The softness issues were unrelated to the color issues I believe.
This was my understanding as well. I thought the first batch was too soft and the second batch was too dark.
In reference to what Ivan just posted, I would totally be fine with keys that were "too dark". To be honest, I would almost prefer keys that are darker than what comes on the black Realforce (that was the target contrast level, right?). Of course if it matches the level of contrast on the RF UB keyboards that's great but I would love keys with legends that are even more "invisible".
Post by: spookymikal on Thu, 11 December 2014, 10:21:54
If this ends up being what happens, can we go back to the darker samples they had?
If I remember correctly the really dark ones were too soft for normal production so I don't think we will be getting those. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Part of the problem is that the company printing on the keycaps is different from the one producing the caps. PLUM is pressing plastic pellets into molds to make the keys. Imsto is using a dyesub printer to put letters on the keys.
PLUM has created 3 sample batches:
Batch 1 was too soft, didn't even get shipped to Imsto. They changed plastic suppliers to fix the problems and that lead to...
Batch 2, which was of acceptable firmness, but Imsto determined they were too dark to accept dyesub.
Batch 3 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.msg1540412#msg1540412) is made of good plastic and it's a little lighter in color. Right now it's w/ Imsto where he will determine if it can accept dyesub legends.
If batch 3 is still too dark: Ivan is not sure what the next step is.
One options is to ship the blanks people who ordered blanks and give people who ordered printed keys refunds. This is expensive in the short term because the order from plum is for {X} sets, whereas only {Y} of those are for people who want blanks. So even though people only want {Y} keysets, PLUM has already been paid to produce {X} sets. Ivan would have to issue refunds to people who don't want to take blank keys instead of printed keys, and would then be stuck with dozens of blank black keycap sets that he doesn't want. I'm sure that they would eventually get sold off, but that's just a huge headache to deal with, and a hit to his pocket book at Christmas time.
Another option is to delay production for batch 4. There's no guarantee that batch 4 would be perfect, and it would probably be another 3-6 months of waiting before we know if they can be printed, and 3-6 more months to go through the printing and shipping process. This means more pitchforks and people *****ing, but it might be a smaller headache to deal with that than to issue refunds.
If batch 3 is perfect then PLUM will go into full production mode and complete the sets, ship them to Imsto, and they'll be printed on, shipped to Ivan and distributed to everyone. This process will take a minimum of 3 months to complete, and could take even longer.
So odds are very low that we'll end up with blank keys from batch 2, even if batch 3 is too dark to be printed and Ivan decides to go with the refund option.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 11 December 2014, 10:31:48
Post by: dante on Thu, 11 December 2014, 11:21:29
I should know for sure what will happen on next week sometime when the dyesub samples can be returned for evaluation.
How about a Plan C?
If the Dyesub is impossible and you have to refund some money can PLUM turn those orders into blank POM sets? If so, I'd like to snag some sets!
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 11 December 2014, 11:38:52
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 11 December 2014, 19:28:23
Post by: Mooby on Sat, 13 December 2014, 05:18:12
Post by: pr0ximity on Sat, 13 December 2014, 08:08:20
The delay is nothing I'm excited about, but I'd rather wait some more, because I'm absolutely not interested in blanks. No dye sub would be a real bummer for me.
Have to say, I'm in the same boat. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 13 December 2014, 08:42:46
I'd rather wait another year than getting no caps at all.
On the other hand I can see that it's getting too frustrating for Ivan...
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 13 December 2014, 11:21:32
Post by: Unknown01011010 on Sat, 13 December 2014, 16:08:53
Post by: edwardpark8 on Sun, 14 December 2014, 02:41:24
EDIT: Forgot to say that atm I'm only willing to pay original price + shipping. I've gotten a few pms asking if I would be willing to pay more to take over their order.
EDIT2: Took over someone else's order! Not looking anymore.
Post by: Synjin on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:26:20
Post by: Bromono on Sun, 14 December 2014, 21:57:01
Post by: Keytrun on Sun, 14 December 2014, 22:09:56
Post by: Keytrun on Mon, 15 December 2014, 12:00:08
Post by: j0hnny on Mon, 15 December 2014, 16:04:25
I don't need the extra set of blanks, but if it will help out Ivan get rid of inventory then I don't mind.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 15 December 2014, 16:17:15
Post by: j0hnny on Mon, 15 December 2014, 17:50:42
One options is to ship the blanks people who ordered blanks and give people who ordered printed keys refunds. This is expensive in the short term because the order from plum is for {X} sets, whereas only {Y} of those are for people who want blanks. So even though people only want {Y} keysets, PLUM has already been paid to produce {X} sets. Ivan would have to issue refunds to people who don't want to take blank keys instead of printed keys, and would then be stuck with dozens of blank black keycap sets that he doesn't want. I'm sure that they would eventually get sold off, but that's just a huge headache to deal with, and a hit to his pocket book at Christmas time.
I meant it for this, should've quoted it. I know you don't have extra sets, Spooky was just saying there's a chance where you would be stuck with a bunch of blanks (the ones that couldn't be dyesubbed).
Post by: Keytrun on Mon, 15 December 2014, 19:30:09
Post by: spookymikal on Mon, 15 December 2014, 22:18:32
One options is to ship the blanks people who ordered blanks and give people who ordered printed keys refunds. This is expensive in the short term because the order from plum is for {X} sets, whereas only {Y} of those are for people who want blanks. So even though people only want {Y} keysets, PLUM has already been paid to produce {X} sets. Ivan would have to issue refunds to people who don't want to take blank keys instead of printed keys, and would then be stuck with dozens of blank black keycap sets that he doesn't want. I'm sure that they would eventually get sold off, but that's just a huge headache to deal with, and a hit to his pocket book at Christmas time.
you're jumping the gun a bit.
we still don't know if these can take the dyesub or not.
i'm sure that we'll burn that bridge when we come to it.
I meant it for this, should've quoted it. I know you don't have extra sets, Spooky was just saying there's a chance where you would be stuck with a bunch of blanks (the ones that couldn't be dyesubbed).
Post by: taylordcraig on Tue, 16 December 2014, 07:24:08
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Tue, 16 December 2014, 17:31:59
I'm still looking to sell my set of blanks.
What's your final asking price?
Post by: eddie on Tue, 16 December 2014, 18:59:06
I think a lot of the printed people feel the darker color is acceptable, as the vocal minority of us seems to have wanted it darker than target anyway.idk about that... i ordered hoping it would look like the realforce black/black that's just me tho
Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 16 December 2014, 23:31:01
I'm still looking to sell my set of blanks.
What's your final asking price?
Its $64 total invoice price. I'd be fine with that. PM me if you're interested.
Post by: Keytrun on Thu, 18 December 2014, 07:15:45
Post by: FingerPunch on Thu, 18 December 2014, 16:50:24
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 18 December 2014, 17:53:25
Post by: FingerPunch on Thu, 18 December 2014, 19:10:51
Post by: Al3xG on Fri, 19 December 2014, 00:57:15
Post by: catbuster on Fri, 19 December 2014, 03:22:45
Post by: spookymikal on Fri, 19 December 2014, 09:20:15
People started to drop out of this :( I really hoped to get these this year.
People selling their place in the GB has no impact on the delivery date. Everyone paid up front already.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 19 December 2014, 11:03:33
Post by: strict on Fri, 19 December 2014, 14:46:24
I should know for sure what will happen on next week sometime when the dyesub samples can be returned for evaluation.
Any word on the dye sub results with the new keys?
Post by: catbuster on Sun, 21 December 2014, 05:17:01
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 21 December 2014, 09:05:45
Everything should be good to go I'm told. Tentative delivery date mid February.
Post by: strict on Sun, 21 December 2014, 09:31:32
There hasn't been that many order transfers.
Everything should be good to go I'm told. Tentative delivery date mid February.
(http://i.imgur.com/2G8v1kK.gif)
Post by: eddie on Sun, 21 December 2014, 12:44:15
There hasn't been that many order transfers.:thumb:
Everything should be good to go I'm told. Tentative delivery date mid February.
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Sun, 21 December 2014, 23:49:24
There hasn't been that many order transfers.
Everything should be good to go I'm told. Tentative delivery date mid February.
Wow, thank you for all the work you put in.
Post by: Unknown01011010 on Tue, 23 December 2014, 03:02:46
There hasn't been that many order transfers.
Everything should be good to go I'm told. Tentative delivery date mid February.
Wow, thank you for all the work you put in.
Yeah, thank you! Now that we have a date, this is going to be one of those fabled keycap sets that will be spoken of through the ages after people get them! lol
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 23 December 2014, 08:21:19
There hasn't been that many order transfers.
Everything should be good to go I'm told. Tentative delivery date mid February.
Awesome!!!!!
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Wed, 24 December 2014, 15:01:16
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 24 December 2014, 20:55:42
Fingers crossed.
I just took a look at the first post. I didn't realize a whole year had passed. Wow!
Thanks for the effort, Ivan.
I just need this and my Calm Depths set.
Post by: Zentaaa on Thu, 25 December 2014, 07:05:06
Post by: bueller on Thu, 25 December 2014, 07:10:42
Let me know if anyone is thinking about dropping out on a black on black set and a standard adapter pack, As I stupidly missed this GB and I will take the order off your hands :) Thanks
Just PM'ed you mate, didn't get the adapter set but you're welcome to my Black on Black Cherry set!
Post by: Ranguesy on Thu, 25 December 2014, 18:23:09
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 26 December 2014, 11:39:10
Post by: FreeCopy on Fri, 26 December 2014, 11:52:25
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Oh, man! That's exciting to see. Can't wait to get these on a board.
Thank you, Ivan
Post by: LechnerDE on Fri, 26 December 2014, 12:15:27
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That looks bad ass!
Does this mean that all problems are finally solved and they can go into full production?
Post by: strict on Fri, 26 December 2014, 12:37:35
Post by: icyskyz on Fri, 26 December 2014, 12:39:33
I've been looking for a black on black keycap set forever.
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 26 December 2014, 12:45:06
That looks amazing!! Thank you so much, Ivan, for making this possible! Those are going to look incredible on something like a Filco ninja
Funny, that's exactly what mine are going on :D
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 26 December 2014, 12:45:18
Post by: Unknown01011010 on Fri, 26 December 2014, 14:38:17
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 26 December 2014, 15:35:23
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THIS. This is exactly what we all have been waiting for!
Post by: GSimon on Fri, 26 December 2014, 17:22:16
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Awwwwww yeaaaaa!
Looks just like how I imagined they'd be
Post by: tbc on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:01:05
LOL who the hell am i kidding.
Post by: neunelfer on Fri, 26 December 2014, 20:25:49
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 26 December 2014, 20:44:54
Post by: naasfu on Sat, 27 December 2014, 01:13:51
Extra keys in each set... yes. Will I tell what those extras will be... no.
We love you, Ivan. <3
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 27 December 2014, 09:51:03
Extra sets... no. Extra keys in each set... yes. Will I tell what those extras will be... no.
Can I cast a vote for 4 extra top-row 1u blanks?
Post by: FingerPunch on Sat, 27 December 2014, 12:56:48
I don't really need two sets of these and I'm trying to clear up some money and switch space so I can get in on the 1976 set :(
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sat, 27 December 2014, 21:18:01
Post by: Veteranos on Sat, 27 December 2014, 21:19:37
amazing Ivan ;D
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Sat, 27 December 2014, 22:32:29
Post by: strict on Sat, 27 December 2014, 22:34:26
I want to put these on a black TKL since they won't fit on my FC700R. Any suggestions? I don't think these will fit keyboards with costar stabilizers. So, I need a well built black keyboard with cherry stabilizers.
KUL ES-87
Post by: tbc on Sat, 27 December 2014, 22:37:49
I want to put these on a black TKL since they won't fit on my FC700R. Any suggestions? I don't think these will fit keyboards with costar stabilizers. So, I need a well built black keyboard with cherry stabilizers.
why would they not work with costar?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 27 December 2014, 22:48:56
(http://42.120.41.196/data/attachment/forum/201201/20/004545jpbw80vggbnfyc2t.jpg)
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Sat, 27 December 2014, 22:58:24
why would they not work with costar?
Thick PBT and Cherry profile have issues with Costar stabilizers. The stabs rub against the key unless you have thin iOne-type wires.
Ivan - I thought the 700R was an anomaly? No other spacebar has ever fit it. The new 750R has more standard spacing, but not the 700R. You are going to throw a huge kink in my plans to get a new keyboard if this is true. This picture indicates you might be right, though: http://imgur.com/UpTf7
strict - if only the Black KUL with blues was in stock anywhere. Only the "smoke" color is in stock right now.
Post by: bueller on Sun, 28 December 2014, 06:21:12
Post by: Ound on Sun, 28 December 2014, 14:18:10
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 28 December 2014, 14:24:16
Post by: GSimon on Sun, 28 December 2014, 22:49:12
It will work on Leopold, it have the proper mounts on the spacebar.Show Image(http://42.120.41.196/data/attachment/forum/201201/20/004545jpbw80vggbnfyc2t.jpg)
(http://cdn.meme.am/images/11413624.jpg)
Post by: j0hnny on Mon, 29 December 2014, 13:07:04
Post by: icyskyz on Tue, 30 December 2014, 10:44:52
Post by: lolkey on Tue, 30 December 2014, 19:47:58
Please let me know if anyone's thinking about dropping out on a black on black set, I'd be interested to take them! Thanks!
Check the previous page, there were a few selling.
Post by: Danboard on Tue, 30 December 2014, 20:38:41
EDIT: Bought a set!
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 05 January 2015, 20:47:49
We are getting closer. Now just need about a month for the dyesublimation to be completed and transit time.
Post by: rainb1ood on Mon, 05 January 2015, 20:51:52
Well worth the wait! It could even be just in time with the black Octagon I ordered
Post by: keyit on Mon, 05 January 2015, 21:00:00
Post by: eyesmiles on Mon, 05 January 2015, 21:01:26
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Mon, 05 January 2015, 21:04:46
Post by: bueller on Mon, 05 January 2015, 21:05:07
Post by: tbc on Mon, 05 January 2015, 21:06:20
the extra keys are a WKL set? :O
i did not order enough sets -_-
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 05 January 2015, 21:27:06
(Attachment Link)They are coming with a winkeyless kit? :O
We are getting closer. Now just need about a month for the dyesublimation to be completed and transit time.
WTB Printed set as well lol....
Post by: YoJinBro on Mon, 05 January 2015, 23:36:32
Post by: ThomasBastiani on Tue, 06 January 2015, 02:03:05
HOT DAMN!Same here. I should have gotten a second set of blanks...
the extra keys are a WKL set? :O
i did not order enough sets -_-
Post by: spookymikal on Tue, 06 January 2015, 08:36:02
HOT DAMN!Same here. I should have gotten a second set of blanks...
the extra keys are a WKL set? :O
i did not order enough sets -_-
There have been LOTS of people who want to give up their blanks in this thread.
Post by: lolkey on Tue, 06 January 2015, 09:02:03
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We are getting closer. Now just need about a month for the dyesublimation to be completed and transit time.
Post by: lolkey on Tue, 06 January 2015, 09:02:29
Post by: fydo on Tue, 06 January 2015, 09:13:41
This may be a silly question, but is it possible to ship out the blanks now since they don't need to be dyesubbed?
Post by: ThomasBastiani on Tue, 06 January 2015, 09:17:10
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 06 January 2015, 10:11:17
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We are getting closer. Now just need about a month for the dyesublimation to be completed and transit time.
Ohhhhh man...this is exciting...
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 06 January 2015, 10:15:34
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 January 2015, 11:37:31
Looking great!
This may be a silly question, but is it possible to ship out the blanks now since they don't need to be dyesubbed?
No, all sets will be shipped to me from China at same time.
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 06 January 2015, 12:36:33
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We are getting closer. Now just need about a month for the dyesublimation to be completed and transit time.
Ohhhhh man...this is exciting...
Oh wow, winkeyless extras make this set even better!
If anyone who ordered a blank set, doesn't need the extra WKL keys - I'd take them for a fair price :)
Post by: zippox on Tue, 06 January 2015, 12:51:56
Post by: LechnerDE on Tue, 06 January 2015, 13:00:05
I sold my Quickfire TK because it had that odd bottom row with the size of the win key and space bar. Are you saying that with these extra keys, they would all fit on it?
No, the spacebar would still not fit if I am not totally mistaken.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 January 2015, 13:01:59
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 07 January 2015, 01:26:22
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We are getting closer. Now just need about a month for the dyesublimation to be completed and transit time.
That looks insanely good! The colour is just perfect, IMHO. Definitely black, but the really deep black dye is visible on them in your previous pic. I think they'll turn out to be well worth the wait :)
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 07 January 2015, 20:06:26
One more month! Yes!
Post by: oomph on Wed, 07 January 2015, 22:49:44
Post by: bjonbjonbjon on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:32:47
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 08 January 2015, 16:46:14
Post by: FingerPunch on Thu, 08 January 2015, 18:50:43
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The way these look I almost wish they were made with glitter. I guess I should be satisfied they look like that anyway :)
Post by: fydo on Thu, 08 January 2015, 20:03:06
Looking great!
This may be a silly question, but is it possible to ship out the blanks now since they don't need to be dyesubbed?
No, all sets will be shipped to me from China at same time.
Sounds great! Thanks for the quick answer and thanks again for all your hard work on this GB.
Post by: tbc on Thu, 08 January 2015, 20:37:19
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The way these look I almost wish they were made with glitter. I guess I should be satisfied they look like that anyway :)
every even slightly textured keycap i've seen has that effect.
it's just lighting and the camera works..
Post by: Unknown01011010 on Thu, 08 January 2015, 22:17:11
Post by: Paranoid on Fri, 09 January 2015, 05:46:59
Post by: PolaBurrr on Fri, 09 January 2015, 20:26:37
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:42:13
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:48:43
Funny how we spent nearly a year trying to make quota and once it finally goes through everyone and their dog wants a set.
This is how it usually goes. GMK Purple Mods and CMYK took ages to meet MOQ (didn't even really meet MOQ, in fact), and now everyone wants a set. It's normal.
Post by: atlas3686 on Thu, 15 January 2015, 01:11:08
Funny how we spent nearly a year trying to make quota and once it finally goes through everyone and their dog wants a set.
This is how it usually goes. GMK Purple Mods and CMYK took ages to meet MOQ (didn't even really meet MOQ, in fact), and now everyone wants a set. It's normal.
Once people start to see the finished product and especially start seeing it on boards, they start to want it. I wouldn't have bought Hyperfuse but now that I've seen it, I want a set :)
Can't wait for this GB though, they gonna look sooo good.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 15 January 2015, 10:21:31
Post by: rainb1ood on Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:10:58
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 15 January 2015, 19:06:48
Just curious how does this blank set compare to the Cherry profile, blank sets from Vortex, which is on mass drop right now
They're black and not grey. These look like have have a rougher texture comparing images. Other than that, who knows until you have them in hand.
Post by: Digitize on Thu, 15 January 2015, 19:55:52
i wish I was into this keyboard hobby a year ago because I would of definitely got myself a set. >=\Funny how we spent nearly a year trying to make quota and once it finally goes through everyone and their dog wants a set.
This is how it usually goes. GMK Purple Mods and CMYK took ages to meet MOQ (didn't even really meet MOQ, in fact), and now everyone wants a set. It's normal.
Once people start to see the finished product and especially start seeing it on boards, they start to want it. I wouldn't have bought Hyperfuse but now that I've seen it, I want a set :)
Can't wait for this GB though, they gonna look sooo good.
Post by: JaccoW on Fri, 16 January 2015, 04:25:41
Doesn't matter when you get into the hobby, you are always too late for the best stuff.i wish I was into this keyboard hobby a year ago because I would of definitely got myself a set. >=\Funny how we spent nearly a year trying to make quota and once it finally goes through everyone and their dog wants a set.
This is how it usually goes. GMK Purple Mods and CMYK took ages to meet MOQ (didn't even really meet MOQ, in fact), and now everyone wants a set. It's normal.
Once people start to see the finished product and especially start seeing it on boards, they start to want it. I wouldn't have bought Hyperfuse but now that I've seen it, I want a set :)
Can't wait for this GB though, they gonna look sooo good.
For example I was too late for affordable Clacks.
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 16 January 2015, 06:11:44
Doesn't matter when you get into the hobby, you are always too late for the best stuff.i wish I was into this keyboard hobby a year ago because I would of definitely got myself a set. >=\Funny how we spent nearly a year trying to make quota and once it finally goes through everyone and their dog wants a set.
This is how it usually goes. GMK Purple Mods and CMYK took ages to meet MOQ (didn't even really meet MOQ, in fact), and now everyone wants a set. It's normal.
Once people start to see the finished product and especially start seeing it on boards, they start to want it. I wouldn't have bought Hyperfuse but now that I've seen it, I want a set :)
Can't wait for this GB though, they gonna look sooo good.
For example I was too late for affordable Clacks.
Make your own! :D
Post by: Keytrun on Fri, 16 January 2015, 16:30:15
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 16 January 2015, 16:43:42
So is anyone interested in purchasing my set?Which set is it?
Post by: Keytrun on Fri, 16 January 2015, 20:49:12
Post by: Keytrun on Sat, 17 January 2015, 01:27:36
Post by: Sent on Sun, 18 January 2015, 00:38:48
Post by: Cottonsox on Mon, 19 January 2015, 00:16:27
looking for a set of Blanks, or Cherry Black on Black! Shoot me a PM
Post by: RiGS on Thu, 22 January 2015, 06:12:25
No single sets for sale, offer only valid if you buy out the whole order.
Post by: eddie on Thu, 22 January 2015, 12:14:06
edit : sold
Post by: Paranoid on Fri, 23 January 2015, 07:58:36
hi im looking to sell my black on black set hit me up :cool:
*Already to late!
Post by: KatzenKinder on Fri, 23 January 2015, 18:30:03
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sat, 24 January 2015, 16:30:08
Post by: dimmu on Sun, 25 January 2015, 05:04:01
Looking to take over a black-on-black set, and have someone else take over my blank set!
does your blank set have a standard adapter pack as well? i'll take over if that's the case.
Post by: cannonking on Sun, 25 January 2015, 07:10:19
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 25 January 2015, 08:38:50
Would anyone with an adapter pack be interesting in selling their 1.75x Shift? I would have bought a whole adapter pack for one but I got in on the GB late.
As far as I know the adapter pack was never produced because it didn't reach MOQ.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 25 January 2015, 09:06:38
Post by: jamster on Sun, 25 January 2015, 09:10:14
Post by: strict on Sun, 25 January 2015, 09:55:12
Sets were just delivered to the dyesubbing place, so as soon as they have finished that step they should be on the way to me.
Excellent news! Thanks for the update, Ivan!
(https://i.imgur.com/fRHxo1N.gif)
Post by: Michael on Sun, 25 January 2015, 09:59:08
Post by: HPE1000 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 10:23:04
And I will be like everyone else, if you don't want your black on black keys, let me know -.-
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 25 January 2015, 10:52:58
Sets were just delivered to the dyesubbing place, so as soon as they have finished that step they should be on the way to me.Great!
How long is the dyeing process usually?
Post by: Michael on Sun, 25 January 2015, 11:03:40
Post by: tbc on Sun, 25 January 2015, 12:55:31
What about the people with blank sets? Do you get those shipped to you right now?
nope everything at once.
less shipping costs and confusion for orders with blanks and subs that way?
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Mon, 26 January 2015, 01:19:15
Post by: ribozyme on Mon, 26 January 2015, 09:43:35
Post by: Shinryuu on Mon, 26 January 2015, 11:55:30
Post by: RiGS on Tue, 27 January 2015, 07:27:52
I want to sell my complete order (2 blanks, 1 ANSI US, 1 Russian). PM if you are interested.Changed my mind. Please take over my order. Single sets are also available and welcome.
No single sets for sale, offer only valid if you buy out the whole order.
Post by: jamster on Tue, 27 January 2015, 08:49:59
I want to sell my complete order (2 blanks, 1 ANSI US, 1 Russian). PM if you are interested.Changed my mind. Please take over my order. Single sets are also available and welcome.
No single sets for sale, offer only valid if you buy out the whole order.
G'day, if you're okay with single sets, I'd love to take over the ANSI black on black.
(I assume that by ANSI you mean the "CHERRY BLACK on BLACK dyesub" that's listed as the second option on the original post in this thread... just checking)
Post by: Sent on Wed, 28 January 2015, 02:18:10
I want to sell my complete order (2 blanks, 1 ANSI US, 1 Russian). PM if you are interested.Changed my mind. Please take over my order. Single sets are also available and welcome.
No single sets for sale, offer only valid if you buy out the whole order.
PM'd
Post by: Silit on Wed, 28 January 2015, 10:42:41
Post by: Paranoid on Wed, 28 January 2015, 12:38:11
PM'd for the black on black ANSI USI want to sell my complete order (2 blanks, 1 ANSI US, 1 Russian). PM if you are interested.Changed my mind. Please take over my order. Single sets are also available and welcome.
No single sets for sale, offer only valid if you buy out the whole order.
Post by: FreeCopy on Wed, 28 January 2015, 15:12:23
Sets were just delivered to the dyesubbing place, so as soon as they have finished that step they should be on the way to me.
Thank you, Ivan! Super happy I was able to get in on this.
Post by: ribozyme on Wed, 28 January 2015, 15:19:23
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 29 January 2015, 09:55:02
Just so the people selling are aware, these are an extremely hot ticket item and selling them for less than $100 a set at this point would be silly, flat transfers are just throwing away money on the seller's end.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 29 January 2015, 11:12:13
Lots of people wanting in on this, naturally since it's a 100% go ahead now.
Just so the people selling are aware, these are an extremely hot ticket item and selling them for less than $100 a set at this point would be silly, flat transfers are just throwing away money on the seller's end.
Or, if you don't care about making a buck and just want to transfer the set, feel free to do so.
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 29 January 2015, 11:13:04
making money off of something before it's even in your handsLots of people wanting in on this, naturally since it's a 100% go ahead now.
Just so the people selling are aware, these are an extremely hot ticket item and selling them for less than $100 a set at this point would be silly, flat transfers are just throwing away money on the seller's end.
Or, if you don't care about making a buck and just want to transfer the set, feel free to do so.
sounds like rarar :P
Post by: LechnerDE on Thu, 29 January 2015, 11:16:17
Lots of people wanting in on this, naturally since it's a 100% go ahead now.
Just so the people selling are aware, these are an extremely hot ticket item and selling them for less than $100 a set at this point would be silly, flat transfers are just throwing away money on the seller's end.
Great attitude...
:rolleyes:
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 29 January 2015, 11:30:18
Lots of people wanting in on this, naturally since it's a 100% go ahead now.
Just so the people selling are aware, these are an extremely hot ticket item and selling them for less than $100 a set at this point would be silly, flat transfers are just throwing away money on the seller's end.
Great attitude...
:rolleyes:
Yes, definitely not ideal for the community. I've been on both sides of fair deals, and feelsgoodman.gif
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 29 January 2015, 11:51:42
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 29 January 2015, 12:28:54
Good to know round two is in your thoughts, any other solid colors in mind?
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 29 January 2015, 12:34:07
If you want to do something like that, go play the stock market.
Post by: strict on Thu, 29 January 2015, 12:48:51
It's the selling at a markup that rubs people wrong. It's one where I'd love to see Ivan do what I've seen done elsewhere. Want to sell it? Fine, I'll refund you your money and sell it to someone who wants it instead of selling an unshipped product to someone else for a profit.
If you want to do something like that, go play the stock market.
+1
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 29 January 2015, 15:16:39
If we all flipped for profit, you'd never be able to get what you want.
And the market value would be all the **** over the place depending on how many times a set has been moved.
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 29 January 2015, 16:25:04
Hate hate hate, what's with you guys?General consensus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=31779.0) within the community is that when selling/buying you ask for the original price. Minus 20-30% if it's used.
Shipping is your own problem though. However you are allowed to add a little bit to recuperate some of those expenses. Opinions vary.
But you simply don't add those costs when transferring an order before even getting your hands on it. If anyone should profit it should be Ivan who has to keep an up to date form that tells him who gets what.
Otherwise it's either flipping for profit (which is frowned upon) or very sensitive to scamming (have someone else buy your set, receive it, then never send him and keep them guessing until their paypal dispute period runs out).
If you don't like it, then please go somewhere else.
Besides, as TJweir said, it feels much better to deal fairly with people around here than to earn $20 bucks in profit.
It is indeed flipping for profit which set everyone off.This.
If we all flipped for profit, you'd never be able to get what you want.
And the market value would be all the **** over the place depending on how many times a set has been moved.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 29 January 2015, 16:49:07
However you are allowed to add a little bit to recuperate some of those expenses.
Nice summary post, JaccoW. I just want to clarify that you are allowed to do whatever you want with respect to prices. I know this is a minor point and I'm quoting you out of context, but I just want that to be clear. As much as the community will call you out, asking a higher price, in general, is not against the rules here and is simply frowned upon. That said, I still agree with everything said here. I'm just clarifying that point, as a mod. ;)
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 29 January 2015, 16:56:24
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 29 January 2015, 17:09:22
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Nathan-Fillion-Loss-For-Words-Reaction-Gif.gif)
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 29 January 2015, 17:14:08
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?Just because people flip one thing doesnt mean that makes flipping everything okay. I would prefer if people didnt flip their click clacks/brobots but that isnt going to stop any time soon. I havent ever bought a keycap outside of an offical sale and its going to stay that way as long as people sell them for crazy prices.
Nobody even has these on hand, if you are getting rid of them then just sell them for what you bought them for. Pass on that good deal as you think it is on to someone else and make their day instead of looking to make a couple bucks wherever you can. And by you I mean everyone, dont take it personal as it doesnt seem like you are trying to sell yours. I for one would feel pretty pathetic making a profit off of something like that, but I would also feel stupid flipping a keycap so whatever...
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 29 January 2015, 17:17:18
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?Show Image(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Nathan-Fillion-Loss-For-Words-Reaction-Gif.gif)
There are a lot of people who will do anything to get their hands on an artisan.
It's still frowned upon. I think people profiting $100 on a single cap is a joke.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 29 January 2015, 17:24:40
I simply wanted to showcase the options for the seemingly endless amount of people bailing on this set so late in the process. I really didn't mean to step on any toes.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 29 January 2015, 17:31:38
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
If you've seen discussion on the subject around here, you'd see very quickly that we do not support profiting from CC and BB sales. I of course do not know your history here and where you've observed this supportive behavior, but I'd recommend reading some of the threads if you haven't done so and have a chance. There seems to be a lot of misinformation floating around about "our" views (which do vary quite a bit and perhaps can't be generalized so much), and if you need help locating these threads or want to discuss it further, I'm happy to do so via PM. And I'm sure others might be as well. We should probably keep that discussion out of this topic though, so we don't wander too far off-topic.
Post by: GSimon on Thu, 29 January 2015, 17:37:30
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
If you've seen discussion on the subject around here, you'd see very quickly that we do not support profiting from CC and BB sales.
Than why is there a Clack Evaluation thread in the Classifieds? Isn't it to make sure members don't undervalue their Clacks? I don't see anyone there saying "It's 40$, that's how much CC sold it for and that's how much it is worth".
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 29 January 2015, 17:39:56
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
If you've seen discussion on the subject around here, you'd see very quickly that we do not support profiting from CC and BB sales.
Than why is there a Clack Evaluation thread in the Classifieds? Isn't it to make sure members don't undervalue their Clacks? I don't see anyone there saying "It's 40$, that's how much CC sold it for and that's how much it is worth".
Wat. Have you seen nubbinator/JD posting in response to everyone saying to sell at retail? And the reason that thread was created was to stop people asking about Clacks every 4 posts in the regular Price Check thread. And you'll notice fairly quick that the people asking for prices aren't "regulars", they're new people trying to make money. I wouldn't consider them the people to define what "geekhack thinks" about something.
Post by: strict on Thu, 29 January 2015, 18:45:49
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
I would sincerely argue against that being the case, in fact my perception has been that many people around here (myself included) are vocally against flipping stuff for profit that the owner has done nothing to contribute any additional value to.
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 30 January 2015, 02:50:07
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
I would sincerely argue against that being the case, in fact my perception has been that many people around here (myself included) are vocally against flipping stuff for profit that the owner has done nothing to contribute any additional value to.
I agree with what you said guys considering the BB/CC case. But isn't having something that becomes precious because it gains value through time the purpose of collecting stuff? Most of the time collectors don't add any value to the objects themselves but their inherent rarity make them expensive. Whether you want to sell them or not is then up to the owner.
Post by: tbc on Fri, 30 January 2015, 03:08:50
Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
I would sincerely argue against that being the case, in fact my perception has been that many people around here (myself included) are vocally against flipping stuff for profit that the owner has done nothing to contribute any additional value to.
I agree with what you said guys considering the BB/CC case. But isn't having something that becomes precious because it gains value through time the purpose of collecting stuff? Most of the time collectors don't add any value to the objects themselves but their inherent rarity make them expensive. Whether you want to sell them or not is then up to the owner.
alot of the time. things get value AFTER the creator has died.
this time, they're going up while the creators are still alive. kinda different.
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 30 January 2015, 03:24:40
Things don't get value only when the creator is dead.Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
I would sincerely argue against that being the case, in fact my perception has been that many people around here (myself included) are vocally against flipping stuff for profit that the owner has done nothing to contribute any additional value to.
I agree with what you said guys considering the BB/CC case. But isn't having something that becomes precious because it gains value through time the purpose of collecting stuff? Most of the time collectors don't add any value to the objects themselves but their inherent rarity make them expensive. Whether you want to sell them or not is then up to the owner.
alot of the time. things get value AFTER the creator has died.
this time, they're going up while the creators are still alive. kinda different.
Just see how much are price cars that have limited run production like 20 models worldwide even though the creator is not dead. Rarity make them expensive.
Post by: tbc on Fri, 30 January 2015, 04:15:53
Things don't get value only when the creator is dead.Everyone seems to be very against flipping for profit which surprises me since this website is very much PRO Click Clack and Brocap resale. Care to explain guys?
I would sincerely argue against that being the case, in fact my perception has been that many people around here (myself included) are vocally against flipping stuff for profit that the owner has done nothing to contribute any additional value to.
I agree with what you said guys considering the BB/CC case. But isn't having something that becomes precious because it gains value through time the purpose of collecting stuff? Most of the time collectors don't add any value to the objects themselves but their inherent rarity make them expensive. Whether you want to sell them or not is then up to the owner.
alot of the time. things get value AFTER the creator has died.
this time, they're going up while the creators are still alive. kinda different.
Just see how much are price cars that have limited run production like 20 models worldwide even though the creator is not dead. Rarity make them expensive.
don't you think you went a little far in your simplification of the issue?
for example, every time i ****, i create a unique composition of feces. does that make it valuable?
but more seriously:
there are complaints with cars as well. http://www.freep.com/story/money/business/2014/09/26/ford-mustang-price-gouging/16247211/
so i'm not sure where you're going with that :S
Post by: spookymikal on Fri, 30 January 2015, 06:53:21
It is indeed flipping for profit which set everyone off.
If we all flipped for profit, you'd never be able to get what you want.
And the market value would be all the **** over the place depending on how many times a set has been moved.
That thinking is wrong.
If people flipped sets for profit, more people who don't care about sets would buy into GB's hoping that they can make money off of the limited edition nature of the sets.
Economic forces like profit motives are good for everyone involved.
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 30 January 2015, 07:12:55
Post by: RiGS on Fri, 30 January 2015, 07:17:21
I want to sell my complete order (2 blanks, 1 ANSI US, 1 Russian). PM if you are interested.Changed my mind. Please take over my order. Single sets are also available and welcome.
No single sets for sale, offer only valid if you buy out the whole order.
The Russian set is still available for sale.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 30 January 2015, 08:13:30
We're getting way OT here (this would be a great thread to make elsewhere, I think). All I'd say is that looking at the world purely through the lens of economics is a very shallow way of thinking.
Looking through the eyes of economics selling for profit is the only option. Looking through the eyes of civility and humility is what you're thinking of.
This was a very interesting thread, it got much more interesting when Clacks were brought into the mix, all of a sudden everyone got extremely confused. The death of the creators post really cracked me up.
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 30 January 2015, 09:00:48
We're getting way OT here (this would be a great thread to make elsewhere, I think). All I'd say is that looking at the world purely through the lens of economics is a very shallow way of thinking.
+1.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 30 January 2015, 10:12:16
We're getting way OT here (this would be a great thread to make elsewhere, I think). All I'd say is that looking at the world purely through the lens of economics is a very shallow way of thinking.
+1.
So should we discuss the wait time again or whether the caps are a really dark grey or actually black? Resale of this product is very much on topic and has been for at least 4 pages.
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 30 January 2015, 10:15:45
We're getting way OT here (this would be a great thread to make elsewhere, I think). All I'd say is that looking at the world purely through the lens of economics is a very shallow way of thinking.
+1.
So should we discuss the wait time again or whether the caps are a really dark grey or actually black? Resale of this product is very much on topic and has been for at least 4 pages.
But I guess it is just that we were not really discussing the resale of that particular item but more the concept in general which has not his place here.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 30 January 2015, 10:30:09
We're getting way OT here (this would be a great thread to make elsewhere, I think). All I'd say is that looking at the world purely through the lens of economics is a very shallow way of thinking.
+1.
So should we discuss the wait time again or whether the caps are a really dark grey or actually black? Resale of this product is very much on topic and has been for at least 4 pages.
But I guess it is just that we were not really discussing the resale of that particular item but more the concept in general which has not his place here.
This is exactly the distinction. If you want to post about selling or buying this product, that is fine. General philosophical discussions on resale are off-topic.
And to add, we don't need to discuss anything in this topic at this point. The sets are in production and there's just not much to talk about (aside from selling/buying sets).
Post by: yode on Fri, 30 January 2015, 18:13:50
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Sat, 31 January 2015, 13:56:22
Post by: TBone on Sun, 01 February 2015, 12:21:00
SOLD
Post by: KatzenKinder on Sun, 01 February 2015, 21:18:42
If someomoje get me in I trade you caps along w price + shipping z
Post by: jamster on Mon, 02 February 2015, 01:46:28
I've also just finished reading all 64 pages of this thread, and hats off to Ivan for having the patience and persistence in getting this buy together, politely answering the same questions over and over again. I think that someone used the phrase "herding cats" earlier on in the thread and it sounds about right :)
Regarding the interesting digression on marking up slots in the group buy, my personal take is that from what I've seen on GH so far, it's not the 'done thing' during the middle of a buy, no matter how long the buy might take to get done. I probably would have backed out of it had my transaction turned into a bidding war (not because of the cost, but because I don't want to deal with the drama), and given the recent demand this was certainly something that could have happened. The market might be an efficient regulator of supply and demand, but the market is not necessarily a nice place to hang out (and I have spent enough time with people at the sharp end of the financial markets to be very emphatic on this).
Anyway, so Ivan, any chance of the blank sets shipping early as they don't need to be printed*?
* Kidding ;)
Post by: badboybry9000 on Mon, 02 February 2015, 09:24:33
Anyway, so Ivan, any chance of the blank sets shipping early as they don't need to be printed*?
LOL At first I was like, "Oh no he did NOT!" Then I was like, "Awwww ya got me!"
Post by: j0hnny on Mon, 02 February 2015, 10:22:39
Anyway, so Ivan, any chance of the blank sets shipping early as they don't need to be printed*?
LOL At first I was like, "Oh no he did NOT!" Then I was like, "Awwww ya got me!"
lmaooo, bastard. I got tricked too
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Mon, 02 February 2015, 17:22:44
Post by: lolkey on Wed, 04 February 2015, 16:10:22
Post by: KatzenKinder on Thu, 05 February 2015, 15:31:42
Post by: BunnyLake on Thu, 05 February 2015, 18:29:53
if anyone has a set of blank blacks
id love to buy it from you
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 06 February 2015, 18:11:41
Post by: 1cubesolver on Sat, 07 February 2015, 16:47:36
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 08 February 2015, 08:26:10
Post by: jalthi on Sun, 08 February 2015, 14:50:07
I've been told these are almost all ready. Now we just have to see if they get them sent before Chinese New Year shuts everything down for weeks.
Aw snap! Now I just have to figure out how I want to combine my 2 sets to make the perfect black on black / blank keyboard!
Post by: Kira on Sun, 08 February 2015, 15:59:48
Post by: Shinryuu on Wed, 11 February 2015, 14:10:11
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 11 February 2015, 16:19:34
Post by: byker on Wed, 11 February 2015, 17:22:49
I can't seem to find a decicaded thread for my question but here we go.. Can someone enlighten me a bit? Like I said before in this thread that I've left Cherry boards behind and I'm willing to transfer my order away. What steps do I need to perform so I won't ruin anything up? Like, giving a new address and information to Ivan and show him a proof of payment and tell new person about the progress. Thanks :thumb:
What are you selling? I could be interested! :)
Post by: nono0044 on Thu, 12 February 2015, 01:27:55
Post by: DarkShot on Thu, 12 February 2015, 02:17:42
Post by: Shinryuu on Thu, 12 February 2015, 13:10:20
Just put want to sell (set style) in here and hopefully someone will take it off your hands. Once they paid you just inform me and I will change your info to theirs on my order sheet so it gets sent to the new person once they are ready.
Thanks for making this case clear! Anyone who's interested in black blanks (ANSI), you can PM me and I'll arrange things from there on. I'll be selling the set for a user that contacts me first. :P
EDIT1. Price I paid for the set was $55. I'll let this go for $55 + $3 and fees. Can't seem to remember how much I paid for the international shipping but it doesn't really matter now, I can't view my PP log that far away.
Post by: slip84 on Thu, 12 February 2015, 13:13:11
I've got a blank black PBT set up for grabs if anyone wants it. $55+$3 difference in shipping (I ordered multiple sets) plus Paypal fees to me and the set is yours. You'll have to square away shipping with Ivan I believe.Gonna shoot a PM your direction.
Post by: Shinryuu on Fri, 13 February 2015, 07:26:40
Post by: jamster on Sat, 14 February 2015, 01:23:32
I've got a blank black PBT set up for grabs if anyone wants it. $55+$3 difference in shipping (I ordered multiple sets) plus Paypal fees to me and the set is yours. You'll have to square away shipping with Ivan I believe.
I'm doing the same. Took over two sets and plan to switch out a Blank set for one of the other GBs happening at the moment.
So if anyone else wants to take over a blank set: $55+3+coverage of paypal fees, and any difference in shipping to Ivan.
Post by: dimmu on Sat, 14 February 2015, 03:00:00
I've got a blank black PBT set up for grabs if anyone wants it. $55+$3 difference in shipping (I ordered multiple sets) plus Paypal fees to me and the set is yours. You'll have to square away shipping with Ivan I believe.
I'm doing the same. Took over two sets and plan to switch out a Blank set for one of the other GBs happening at the moment.
So if anyone else wants to take over a blank set: $55+3+coverage of paypal fees, and any difference in shipping to Ivan.
i shall take it!!!
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sat, 14 February 2015, 09:04:35
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 14 February 2015, 23:21:51
Post by: jamster on Sat, 14 February 2015, 23:52:04
Post by: spookymikal on Sun, 15 February 2015, 08:10:32
So how far back does chinese new year put us?
About as far as christmas in the states would. My guess is we'll get them 1-3 weeks into march. Hope those packages are insured :3
Post by: Kira on Sun, 15 February 2015, 19:59:43
So how far back does chinese new year put us?
About as far as christmas in the states would. My guess is we'll get them 1-3 weeks into march. Hope those packages are insured :3
International shipping better be insured lol!
Post by: DarkShot on Sun, 15 February 2015, 20:46:08
edit: No more! They're moogle's now.
Post by: moogle on Sun, 15 February 2015, 21:29:11
My blank set is still up for grabs, $58 plus PP and they're yours
PM'd
Post by: RiGS on Wed, 18 February 2015, 01:35:32
Edit: sold
Post by: byker on Wed, 18 February 2015, 01:53:24
My Russian set is still up for grabs. Please take it.
Pm'd
Post by: FunkMasterJ on Thu, 19 February 2015, 22:51:09
Post by: lordofcorners on Fri, 20 February 2015, 06:48:01
I'd be interested in buying one of the blank sets if anybody decides they choose to part with them.
If I can't find anyone to buy those from, I might get these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2C517C9755&cm_re=blank_black_key-_-9SIA2C517C9755-_-Product
Anyone know if those are any good? Maybe in-between ABS and PBT in terms of quality? I could live with that.
See you around.
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 20 February 2015, 07:15:45
First post! (been getting lots of good advice from this board as I've been researching switches/caps/keyboards, so thanks :) )
I'd be interested in buying one of the blank sets if anybody decides they choose to part with them.
If I can't find anyone to buy those from, I might get these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2C517C9755&cm_re=blank_black_key-_-9SIA2C517C9755-_-Product (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2C517C9755&cm_re=blank_black_key-_-9SIA2C517C9755-_-Product)
Anyone know if those are any good? Maybe in-between ABS and PBT in terms of quality? I could live with that.
See you around.
I've never used POM keycaps but welcome to GH! :)
Post by: lordofcorners on Fri, 20 February 2015, 07:21:48
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 20 February 2015, 09:00:39
Thanks for the welcome! I just read someone describe POM as touching keys that are already oily (like have been touched by someone eating pizza). That texture doesn't sound super appealing haha.Well if you want people giving you more insights about the POM keycaps, I think it would be better to create your own thread in the keycaps part of the forum. It is not really nice to hijack this thread. ;)
Post by: Oobly on Sun, 22 February 2015, 09:24:54
Thanks for the welcome! I just read someone describe POM as touching keys that are already oily (like have been touched by someone eating pizza). That texture doesn't sound super appealing haha.
POM are more "teflon-like" in texture. It's a tough, dense material that's a little more pliable than ABS, but harder wearing. I have the 84 key set of the same caps you linked to and I love them, but they don't compare to these. Firstly, they're OEM profile, these are Cherry, secondly they're medium thickness, these are thick, thirdly they're POM, these are PBT.
PBT are more "ceramic-like" and also very hard wearing.
POM give the deepest sound / absorb the most higher frequencies. Usually the heavier the cap, the more it absorbs, though, so they may be about the same in terms of sound (the Keycool POM and these thicker PBT).
Post by: animal on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:01:00
Post by: KatzenKinder on Sun, 22 February 2015, 18:43:57
Post by: strict on Mon, 23 February 2015, 19:52:41
I've been told these are almost all ready. Now we just have to see if they get them sent before Chinese New Year shuts everything down for weeks.
Any word on this, Ivan? Just curious now that the CNY is over :)
Post by: jamster on Mon, 23 February 2015, 20:24:47
For Americans, you can think of it as a combined Thanksgiving and Christmas where factory workers pile onto trains to visit their home villages. Factories would shut down for a couple weeks, and then production only ramps up slowly afterwards.
Even mom and pop stores in Hong Kong (far more Westernised than China) are closed this week.
Post by: YoJinBro on Mon, 23 February 2015, 20:41:57
Thanks for the welcome! I just read someone describe POM as touching keys that are already oily (like have been touched by someone eating pizza). That texture doesn't sound super appealing haha.
POM are more "teflon-like" in texture. It's a tough, dense material that's a little more pliable than ABS, but harder wearing. I have the 84 key set of the same caps you linked to and I love them, but they don't compare to these. Firstly, they're OEM profile, these are Cherry, secondly they're medium thickness, these are thick, thirdly they're POM, these are PBT.
PBT are more "ceramic-like" and also very hard wearing.
POM give the deepest sound / absorb the most higher frequencies. Usually the heavier the cap, the more it absorbs, though, so they may be about the same in terms of sound (the Keycool POM and these thicker PBT).
That has to be the most simple yet accurate description and comparison of the texture of PBT vs POM. Thanks - I'll have to remember to link to this post if I see someone ask.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 24 February 2015, 00:56:18
Post by: wilflare on Tue, 24 February 2015, 04:21:35
should we expect a shipping notification?
--- and I need to figure how to clean the gunk off my filco keyboard
Post by: catbuster on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:32:19
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 25 February 2015, 12:53:19
Post by: Lu_e on Wed, 25 February 2015, 20:38:33
:)
Post by: RedRoboHood on Thu, 26 February 2015, 09:46:40
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Thu, 26 February 2015, 10:11:37
One is getting slightly closer to end of the GH60, Toxic DS, and Black/Black PBT groupbuy, lol!
Post by: ngy on Thu, 26 February 2015, 14:17:05
Post by: RedRoboHood on Fri, 27 February 2015, 11:05:03
By the way, Ivan, are you planning on another black PBT keycap set group buy? I saw that rounds 2 and 4 were both white and gray, so I was wondering whether this will be the only round with black keycaps.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 01 March 2015, 14:51:57
Post by: RedRoboHood on Sun, 01 March 2015, 15:10:13
Woot Wooo! Got a set!
That's awesome! I saw your classifieds thread, you seemed pretty desperate. Glad you managed to get one! :thumb: (Did the guy you bought your set from have any extra blank sets? :p)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 01 March 2015, 15:14:49
I was really desperate, I needed the caps for my GON build. :))Woot Wooo! Got a set!
That's awesome! I saw your classifieds thread, you seemed pretty desperate. Glad you managed to get one! :thumb: (Did the guy you bought your set from have any extra blank sets?)
AFAIK the guy I got the set from already sold his blank set. Sorry.
Post by: RedRoboHood on Sun, 01 March 2015, 15:22:09
I was really desperate, I needed the caps for my GON build. :))
AFAIK the guy I got the set from already sold his blank set. Sorry.
That's unfortunate. :( Oh well, I guess I'll just keep watching. Good luck on your build! :)
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Mon, 02 March 2015, 14:58:11
They will be received this year guaranteed. I expect them to ship soon as they are back from their CNY break time.
So what's the word?
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Tue, 03 March 2015, 02:27:18
Post by: RedRoboHood on Tue, 03 March 2015, 07:59:27
Looking for a Black/Black or Blank US ANSI set. Please PM me if you have one, thanks
Hey, weren't you looking for only a black-on-black set before? Has the lack of available sets caused you to lower your standards? :p
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Tue, 03 March 2015, 17:41:19
Looking for a Black/Black or Blank US ANSI set. Please PM me if you have one, thanks
Hey, weren't you looking for only a black-on-black set before? Has the lack of available sets caused you to lower your standards? :p
You got it! :D
Post by: patthebaker17 on Tue, 03 March 2015, 17:54:26
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 03 March 2015, 17:56:42
Looking to sell my US black on black set ASAP. I did pay a premium because I took over a set from someone overseas who paid extra for shipping. pm me
!!
Looking for a Black/Black or Blank US ANSI set. Please PM me if you have one, thanks
Post by: RedRoboHood on Tue, 03 March 2015, 18:09:02
Looking to sell my US black on black set ASAP. I did pay a premium because I took over a set from someone overseas who paid extra for shipping. pm me
Do you have a blank set for sale, by any chance?
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Tue, 03 March 2015, 18:48:55
Looking to sell my US black on black set ASAP. I did pay a premium because I took over a set from someone overseas who paid extra for shipping. pm me
!!Looking for a Black/Black or Blank US ANSI set. Please PM me if you have one, thanks
Thank you sir, patthebaker17 and I have already been PM'ing back and forth today on this and hopefully we'll have a successful transaction by the end of the day :thumb:
Post by: KatzenKinder on Tue, 03 March 2015, 21:10:52
Post by: nandop on Wed, 04 March 2015, 18:30:43
Post by: RedRoboHood on Fri, 06 March 2015, 12:09:36
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:19:48
Post by: Karura on Fri, 06 March 2015, 15:44:36
Post by: ribozyme on Sun, 08 March 2015, 18:47:45
Post by: Sed8op8 on Mon, 09 March 2015, 05:32:19
slot confirmed with sp
this set will ship to us april 16th from them, normally takes a few days to get to us from there, and we will turn it round right away
Thanks for the information. We appreciate the hard work for all the sale/GB you guys (CtrlAlt team, JD) put into. <3
I second that. Thanks for all the hard work on this. It's much appreciated!
Hey guys and gals~
I have been trying to find a black on black engraved or dye sub PBT for awhile and just saw this GB it seems there alot of people looking for extras . I am CONUS looking for Black on Black ANSI please please help me make my nova touch look sexy . :thumb: ....
Post by: lolkey on Mon, 09 March 2015, 10:55:36
These didn't get finished before the holiday... and there were some issues with some legend art for the Aurebesh sets which has now been resolved. I expect these should be finished up and shipped out soon. I will let you know when they have.
Shipped to you, or Ivan?
Post by: YoJinBro on Mon, 09 March 2015, 11:51:20
These didn't get finished before the holiday... and there were some issues with some legend art for the Aurebesh sets which has now been resolved. I expect these should be finished up and shipped out soon. I will let you know when they have.
Shipped to you, or Ivan?
Yes
Post by: RedRoboHood on Mon, 09 March 2015, 13:34:45
These didn't get finished before the holiday... and there were some issues with some legend art for the Aurebesh sets which has now been resolved. I expect these should be finished up and shipped out soon. I will let you know when they have.
Shipped to you, or Ivan?
Yes
:))
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Mon, 09 March 2015, 15:42:38
Post by: SpilledMilk on Mon, 09 March 2015, 15:53:32
No need for excuses anymore Ivan, they'll come or they won't. The delay isn't due to CNY, that was a month ago, this goes deeper than that.
That's unnecessarily harsh, CNY was 2 weeks before Ivan's post. Given that the Chinese actually celebrate CNY, and how slowly the manufacturer has been at getting back to us, Ivan's response isn't late at all.
Post by: tbc on Mon, 09 March 2015, 16:05:12
No need for excuses anymore Ivan, they'll come or they won't. The delay isn't due to CNY, that was a month ago, this goes deeper than that.
That's unnecessarily harsh, CNY was 2 weeks before Ivan's post. Given that the Chinese actually celebrate CNY, and how slowly the manufacturer has been at getting back to us, Ivan's response isn't late at all.
2 weeks = one month. when you're a whiner.
not accounting for the fact that cny goes on for 2 - 3 weeks.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Mon, 09 March 2015, 16:10:09
Post by: Psybin on Mon, 09 March 2015, 16:22:59
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 09 March 2015, 16:25:19
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
Are you claiming the dyesub process failed and ruined all the key caps? Or that Ivan lied about the caps being delivered to the dye subber? I don't feel like your claim is substantiated by actual evidence. I feel the most likely scenario is that the dye subber is taking longer than he thought he would.
Post by: RedRoboHood on Mon, 09 March 2015, 16:54:07
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
I'm honestly kind of confused here; does this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.msg1583000#msg1583000) not count as a picture of a full set just because it's somewhat cropped? Or was that not actually a picture of the caps we're getting?
Post by: zippox on Mon, 09 March 2015, 17:13:02
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
Are you claiming the dyesub process failed and ruined all the key caps? Or that Ivan lied about the caps being delivered to the dye subber? I don't feel like your claim is substantiated by actual evidence. I feel the most likely scenario is that the dye subber is taking longer than he thought he would.
I've learned to ignore what Sergeant_Shart says in regards to this group buy. It's probably best others followed suit.
Post by: strict on Mon, 09 March 2015, 17:29:11
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
If your key set comes, would you promise to leave and never come back?
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 09 March 2015, 17:57:04
One can only hope.We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
If your key set comes, would you promise to leave and never come back?
Post by: jalthi on Mon, 09 March 2015, 19:49:20
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.I've learned to ignore what Sergeant_Shart says in regards to this group buy. It's probably best others followed suit.
I don't see why everyone is complaining. It's like a free soap opera that, in the case of this groupbuy, never ends!! The gift that keeps on giving.
Post by: tbc on Mon, 09 March 2015, 20:02:10
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.I've learned to ignore what Sergeant_Shart says in regards to this group buy. It's probably best others followed suit.
I don't see why everyone is complaining. It's like a free soap opera that, in the case of this groupbuy, never ends!! The gift that keeps on giving.
lol...i guess you're not wrong lol.
Post by: jamster on Mon, 09 March 2015, 20:46:40
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
I'm honestly kind of confused here; does this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50935.msg1583000#msg1583000) not count as a picture of a full set just because it's somewhat cropped? Or was that not actually a picture of the caps we're getting?
Check the guy's post history and decide if it's worth paying attention to his posts.
Post by: nono0044 on Mon, 09 March 2015, 21:07:26
Post by: lolkey on Tue, 10 March 2015, 03:47:14
Sorry, I meant Ivan or the guy that does the the legends.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 10 March 2015, 12:24:31
Post by: GoatMaster on Tue, 10 March 2015, 17:25:23
Pls PM me!
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 10 March 2015, 21:04:39
;)
Post by: tbc on Tue, 10 March 2015, 23:44:37
Ya whens round 2 so I can get a printed set as well?
;)
ivan specifically stated that he was very disappointed in plum and didn't have personal intereste in buying from them again.
Post by: byker on Wed, 11 March 2015, 00:57:18
Gone
Post by: GoatMaster on Wed, 11 March 2015, 03:08:07
I am putting up a Russian black on black set for sale as I realized the set won't work on the keyboard I have in mind as my next project and I need the money to go towards that! First pm gets it at cost.
Gone
Argh I failed again...
Post by: Sed8op8 on Wed, 11 March 2015, 04:21:52
Dammit that's what I get for sleepingI am putting up a Russian black on black set for sale as I realized the set won't work on the keyboard I have in mind as my next project and I need the money to go towards that! First pm gets it at cost.
Gone
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 11 March 2015, 12:33:48
Post by: Karura on Wed, 11 March 2015, 13:14:42
Please do that set in the future. I know PLUM takes forever, but if we do get our caps this time, I feel that the delay is worth the wait to get these super desirable caps in the best layout (1800/lightsaver master race)
Post by: keymando2145 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 19:01:23
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 12 March 2015, 19:14:33
Hi everyone! This is my first post in the forum. I'm in this GB for PBT Black on Black, however I'm no longer interested in these; I'm using a TKL with the Penumbra set and couldn't be happier. My total for this set with all fees came to $85.28 (I'm in the US), so I'm hoping I can recoup that amount. PM me if interested and we can work out the details.Prepare your inbox...
Post by: Sed8op8 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 20:25:05
Hi everyone! This is my first post in the forum. I'm in this GB for PBT Black on Black, however I'm no longer interested in these; I'm using a TKL with the Penumbra set and couldn't be happier. My total for this set with all fees came to $85.28 (I'm in the US), so I'm hoping I can recoup that amount. PM me if interested and we can work out the details.I would really like to take your spot if still available
Post by: Sed8op8 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 20:29:55
Post by: KatzenKinder on Sun, 15 March 2015, 21:44:41
Post by: spookymikal on Wed, 18 March 2015, 09:34:28
My birthday is in April. Hope I get them before then ;D
Post by: Sed8op8 on Wed, 18 March 2015, 10:56:10
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 18 March 2015, 11:01:30
Post by: Psybin on Wed, 18 March 2015, 12:00:28
Post by: lolkey on Wed, 18 March 2015, 16:20:15
I've been told they should be shipped by end of month.
Sweet, thanks for the update.
Post by: Rewind on Wed, 18 March 2015, 20:22:03
Post by: pr0ximity on Wed, 18 March 2015, 20:33:24
Post by: spartan7 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 00:44:04
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 19 March 2015, 01:09:33
would love to know if there is a round2 for these. would like to get the BOB.
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
Keep checking this thread for someone selling a set, after they're delivered I'd check the classifieds. In regards to a round two just keep you eyes peeled for information.
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 19 March 2015, 04:23:08
would love to know if there is a round2 for these. would like to get the BOB.
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
There is never a good time to be on this merry go round. Even those of us who have been riding it for a while can't buy everything. I remember when I joined I was gutted that I had missed 7Bit's Round 3, Red Alert and a host of others. Rest assured there will be more than enough awesome sets to come....and may the Lord have mercy on our wallets.
Post by: jamster on Thu, 19 March 2015, 06:03:05
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
Check how long this GB has been running... even if you'd joined six months ago you would have missed this round! Waiting for a round 2 with baited breath probably won't get you anywhere fast.
If you want in, just keep checking this thread to see if anyone wants to get rid of a set. I joined GH at the beginning of the year and got lucky that way.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 06:29:42
would love to know if there is a round2 for these. would like to get the BOB.
I can't help with the BoB but if you want cherry profile blanks massdrop just openedba black PBT cherry profile drop for $35 you can also get side print
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
Post by: spartan7 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 14:19:29
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
Check how long this GB has been running... even if you'd joined six months ago you would have missed this round! Waiting for a round 2 with baited breath probably won't get you anywhere fast.
If you want in, just keep checking this thread to see if anyone wants to get rid of a set. I joined GH at the beginning of the year and got lucky that way.
Yea looking back at the beginning this GB has been going quite some time. I'll keep checking the thread and classifieds to see if anyone wants to sell a set.
any of you would like to post some images of your mechs sporting this set? that would be awesome.
thanks again.
Post by: spartan7 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 14:20:14
*** sucks I just discovered GH and Im seeing all these awesome sets and I cant get any :( ***
do I just wait and keep checking this post for info on round2 or how do I go about it? Any info would be appreciated
Check how long this GB has been running... even if you'd joined six months ago you would have missed this round! Waiting for a round 2 with baited breath probably won't get you anywhere fast.
If you want in, just keep checking this thread to see if anyone wants to get rid of a set. I joined GH at the beginning of the year and got lucky that way.
Yea looking back at the beginning this GB has been going quite some time. I'll keep checking the thread and classifieds to see if anyone wants to sell a set.
thanks again
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 19 March 2015, 16:24:24
...
any of you would like to post some images of your mechs sporting this set? that would be awesome.
thanks again.
A bit hard since we don't have them yet... They're still at the dyesub stage, should be sent to Ivan end of the month. Then they'll get sent out to us.
There have been a number of people trading / selling their sets already due to how long they're taking to get made, so someone may be willing to sell you a set in this thread still.
Post by: keymando2145 on Thu, 19 March 2015, 16:51:38
Thank you Keymando2145 for coming through so promptly. Finally I have found a BoB PBT MX set. Since vortex stopped there BoB PBT (I wasn't a huge fan of the font but hey it was cheap) and ducky no longer offers there engraved BoB thin PBT that I'm aware of I have been looking for this set for 2-3 months. I was starting to get desperate! So Thanks again Ivan for the GB and thanks keymando2145 for the spot. This made my day 8)
You're welcome! Hope you love 'em! :-)
Post by: Oobly on Fri, 20 March 2015, 04:10:03
Thank you Keymando2145 for coming through so promptly. Finally I have found a BoB PBT MX set. Since vortex stopped there BoB PBT (I wasn't a huge fan of the font but hey it was cheap) and ducky no longer offers there engraved BoB thin PBT that I'm aware of I have been looking for this set for 2-3 months. I was starting to get desperate! So Thanks again Ivan for the GB and thanks keymando2145 for the spot. This made my day 8)
You're welcome! Hope you love 'em! :-)
Nice of you to give up your set.. I have to admit, though, that Penumbra is amazing. It's my favourite set
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/yoyocici/JFBQ00241070914B.gif)
and most likely to remain so for a good long while. Especially once I get the deep dish homing keys. drool...
Post by: archer on Fri, 20 March 2015, 07:51:28
Post by: j0hnny on Mon, 23 March 2015, 16:56:57
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
dude, i wasn't going to say anything, but you're seriously the biggest ***** ITT. Please shut up no one wants to hear your whining. stop wasting valuable kb's on GH's servers
Post by: spartan7 on Mon, 23 March 2015, 18:15:21
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Tue, 24 March 2015, 09:00:11
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
dude, i wasn't going to say anything, but you're seriously the biggest ***** ITT. Please shut up no one wants to hear your whining. stop wasting valuable kb's on GH's servers
Oh please, like you haven't already said something. Love you too though JOhnny, kisses and hugs, I'll be around.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Tue, 24 March 2015, 09:08:16
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 24 March 2015, 11:39:16
We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
dude, i wasn't going to say anything, but you're seriously the biggest ***** ITT. Please shut up no one wants to hear your whining. stop wasting valuable kb's on GH's servers
Oh please, like you haven't already said something. Love you too though JOhnny, kisses and hugs, I'll be around.
Remember when we were worried about CNY holding up the delivery date? LOL
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/bdcwire-static-content/uploads/2014/08/cute-twin-toddlers-taekwondo-karate-fight.gif)
Post by: Sed8op8 on Tue, 24 March 2015, 12:35:36
Thanks joey I was heading off for work and needed a mindless little giggle :thumb:We've yet to even see a picture of a full set. I'll say it, these caps aren't coming.
dude, i wasn't going to say anything, but you're seriously the biggest ***** ITT. Please shut up no one wants to hear your whining. stop wasting valuable kb's on GH's servers
Oh please, like you haven't already said something. Love you too though JOhnny, kisses and hugs, I'll be around.Remember when we were worried about CNY holding up the delivery date? LOLShow Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/bdcwire-static-content/uploads/2014/08/cute-twin-toddlers-taekwondo-karate-fight.gif)
Post by: jalthi on Mon, 30 March 2015, 19:57:48
Sorry, I'll be that guy this time... We're at the end of the month tomorrow - any updates?
Post by: spookymikal on Tue, 31 March 2015, 09:29:22
Ivan,
Sorry, I'll be that guy this time... We're at the end of the month tomorrow - any updates?
End of the month has come and gone in China.
edit: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=94
Isn't Imtso the one doing the printing for these?
Isn't he a GH community member?
What the *actual* **** is going on with this?
Post by: Cottonsox on Tue, 31 March 2015, 09:33:26
Ivan,
Sorry, I'll be that guy this time... We're at the end of the month tomorrow - any updates?
End of the month has come and gone in China.
edit: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=94
Isn't Imtso the one doing the printing for these?
Isn't he a GH community member?
What the *actual* **** is going on with this?
Confused at what you tryimg to say?
Post by: wlhlm on Tue, 31 March 2015, 10:16:33
These are Black-on-Black Topre caps and have nothing to do with this groupbuy. In fact, some of the Realforce boards come with these by default (like in the picture you've linked).Ivan,
Sorry, I'll be that guy this time... We're at the end of the month tomorrow - any updates?
End of the month has come and gone in China.
edit: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=94
Isn't Imtso the one doing the printing for these?
Isn't he a GH community member?
What the *actual* **** is going on with this?
https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se19e0
Post by: spookymikal on Tue, 31 March 2015, 14:39:08
These are Black-on-Black Topre caps and have nothing to do with this groupbuy. In fact, some of the Realforce boards come with these by default (like in the picture you've linked).Ivan,
Sorry, I'll be that guy this time... We're at the end of the month tomorrow - any updates?
End of the month has come and gone in China.
edit: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=94
Isn't Imtso the one doing the printing for these?
Isn't he a GH community member?
What the *actual* **** is going on with this?
https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se19e0
oic.
well that's neat. My bad, etc.
Post by: kebby on Thu, 02 April 2015, 06:45:57
These are Black-on-Black Topre caps and have nothing to do with this groupbuy. In fact, some of the Realforce boards come with these by default (like in the picture you've linked).
https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se19e0
oic.
well that's neat. My bad, etc.
Yeah, I think some of us in on this buy have been jealously eyeing the sets that our Topre brethren get so easily. I know I have, that's been one of the few things so difficult to obtain for Cherry MX.
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 02 April 2015, 17:14:27
Post by: Lu_e on Fri, 03 April 2015, 11:43:31
Ivan, did you reveal what the extra keys were? Found reference to a stepped caps lock, maybe a 7u spacebar? Don't suppose a short right shift was included was it?
I think he showed an extra bottom row of 1.5x mods and 1x windows keys in addition to the standard 1.25x mods/winkey
oh yeah 7x space... duh.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 03 April 2015, 22:11:13
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
Post by: strict on Fri, 03 April 2015, 22:18:34
Yeah it have 'extra' as 1.5 mod, 7x spacebar.
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
Excellent news! Thanks for the update, Ivan!
Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 04 April 2015, 05:46:23
Yeah it have 'extra' as 1.5 mod, 7x spacebar.Sounds good! :) Thanks for the update.
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
Post by: Danboard on Sat, 04 April 2015, 18:47:04
Yeah it have 'extra' as 1.5 mod, 7x spacebar.
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
Great! My fingers are itching to use these.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 05 April 2015, 11:23:32
Yeah it have 'extra' as 1.5 mod, 7x spacebar.
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
Schwing!
Post by: Digitize on Mon, 06 April 2015, 22:14:05
Yeah it have 'extra' as 1.5 mod, 7x spacebar.
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
Man thank goodness work has been a pain in the a** that I haven't checked this GB in a long while. If I checked everyday for updates I would've....hmmm thinking of a word that fits here.
Anyways, Glad that it is coming along. Looking forward to getting my hands on my set. *drools* the wait is so worth it.
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 07 April 2015, 02:27:53
Yeah it have 'extra' as 1.5 mod, 7x spacebar.(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/yes/tumblr_lm11bt4OaK1qe6xr2.gif)
I got confirmation they have finally finish dyesublimation. Now they are presorting and QC.
Post by: retainerbox on Tue, 07 April 2015, 04:17:41
Edit: black on black! :)
Post by: lolkey on Tue, 07 April 2015, 14:58:06
Post by: KatzenKinder on Tue, 07 April 2015, 16:25:02
Please please please :D
Post by: spartan7 on Tue, 07 April 2015, 17:08:49
I'm hoping there are extras but by the amount of posts I see asking to buy some I don't know. Is the best thing to do wait and keep posting here every so often that your looking for a set?
I would make a WTB thread but I am very new to the site and don't have the time to make one.
thanks in advance for the help and I hope you all get your sets soon. The design is awesome!
PS: Looking 4 black on black.
Post by: Danboard on Tue, 07 April 2015, 17:26:42
looking at other GBs I see there are usually some extra. Is there another site or thread (other than here) were they would be sold?
I'm hoping there are extras but by the amount of posts I see asking to buy some I don't know. Is the best thing to do wait and keep posting here every so often that your looking for a set?
I would make a WTB thread but I am very new to the site and don't have the time to make one.
thanks in advance for the help and I hope you all get your sets soon. The design is awesome!
PS: Looking 4 black on black.
For most group buys, the only time sets are sold on a separate website is when a retailer buys a large number of sets in the original run.
The next time I think we'll see a decent number of users selling their sets is when the keycaps arrive.
Post by: spartan7 on Tue, 07 April 2015, 18:23:34
thank you for clearing that up for me.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 April 2015, 14:18:26
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
Post by: Yslen on Wed, 08 April 2015, 14:23:42
Post by: strict on Wed, 08 April 2015, 14:24:35
Post by: Psybin on Wed, 08 April 2015, 14:27:09
Great job Ivan.
Post by: LechnerDE on Wed, 08 April 2015, 14:31:13
(Attachment Link)
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
Wow! This set looks amazing!!
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 08 April 2015, 14:36:07
(Attachment Link)Looks just like the topre black on black keycaps :D
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 08 April 2015, 14:48:33
(Attachment Link)
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
Yippeee!! These are going to be well worth the wait. Thank you so much for all your work on this GB, Ivan!
Post by: j0hnny on Wed, 08 April 2015, 14:50:16
Post by: Yslen on Wed, 08 April 2015, 14:54:09
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 08 April 2015, 14:54:16
Requesting Sargeant Shart to complain about this situation.We have no proof that the picture isn't photoshopped or that ivan will even ship them out if they are real. It's all a scam guys, go home.
:rolleyes:
Post by: Michael on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:20:51
(Attachment Link)
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma3c9rJk3W1qfj94uo1_400.gif)
Post by: Sed8op8 on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:42:21
lol Jesus .....(Attachment Link)
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.Show Image(https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma3c9rJk3W1qfj94uo1_400.gif)
Thanks Ivan these look fantastic!!!!
Post by: Psybin on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:43:48
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:45:20
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:46:44
(Attachment Link)Hmm, the color of the spacebar looks kinda off. Is it just because of the lighting?
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
Is this a production sample?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:48:52
(Attachment Link)Hmm, the color of the spacebar looks kinda off. Is it just because of the lighting?
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
Is this a production sample?
I'm pretty certain that's the original cherry black spacebar.
Post by: Danboard on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:51:02
(Attachment Link)
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
Exactly what I was hoping for!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:54:44
Post by: Lu_e on Wed, 08 April 2015, 15:56:28
(Attachment Link)Hmm, the color of the spacebar looks kinda off. Is it just because of the lighting?
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
Is this a production sample?
I'm pretty certain that's the original cherry black spacebar.
Was thinking the same.
Also; :llama:
Post by: TDub on Wed, 08 April 2015, 16:19:16
Post by: Yslen on Wed, 08 April 2015, 16:28:51
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 08 April 2015, 18:26:23
Post by: Cottonsox on Wed, 08 April 2015, 18:29:57
Post by: FreeCopy on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:05:47
Post by: Unknown01011010 on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:31:32
Looking awesome, Only in for blanks, now wishing i got both sets somehow :D
Yeah, same here. It's not so bad though because Ivan said he might do this run again in the future.
Post by: eyesmiles on Wed, 08 April 2015, 22:54:27
Post by: tbc on Wed, 08 April 2015, 23:29:54
Looking good! Is it just me or are the F and J keys scoops with nubs?
wtf you are right xD
Post by: Lu_e on Wed, 08 April 2015, 23:35:05
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 08 April 2015, 23:41:40
Looking good! Is it just me or are the F and J keys scoops with nubs?
Looks like it! That should be an interesting experience. Excited for these to finally show!
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 09 April 2015, 01:29:57
Looking good! Is it just me or are the F and J keys scoops with nubs?
Wow! That's interesting for sure! Never seen a set like that. I prefer the nubs when typing, but like the feel of scoops a lot, so if ours are like this it would be awesome!
Post by: naasfu on Thu, 09 April 2015, 02:44:40
Post by: Yslen on Thu, 09 April 2015, 03:36:50
Post by: tbc on Thu, 09 April 2015, 03:38:15
The million dollar question: scubs, or noops?
scubs :p
noops is already a programming term ;)
Post by: jamster on Thu, 09 April 2015, 05:15:21
Looking good! Is it just me or are the F and J keys scoops with nubs?
Wow, nice spot. I was just wondering if it would be practical to get caps with the old school scooped keys because nubs feel a bit poo.
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 09 April 2015, 05:16:28
Wow! This makes it next level type stuff!Looking good! Is it just me or are the F and J keys scoops with nubs?
Wow, nice spot. I was just wondering if it would be practical to get caps with the old school scooped keys because nubs feel a bit poo.
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 09 April 2015, 05:24:22
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50935.0;attach=86500;image)
Post by: Yslen on Thu, 09 April 2015, 05:36:00
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 09 April 2015, 05:44:40
Here is the blank set picture posted a while ago, you can see the real spacebar, I'm assuming:Are the newly added 1.5 mods going to have the "alt" and "ctrl" text on them or are they going to be blank?Show Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50935.0;attach=86500;image)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 09 April 2015, 11:31:38
The sets DO NOT have scoops.
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 09 April 2015, 12:00:01
Printed sets will be all printed. 1.5/1 key will have same as the 1.25 counterpart in the set, not blank.So they have nips then?
The sets DO NOT have scoops.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 09 April 2015, 12:35:15
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 09 April 2015, 12:51:25
Ivan said these Vortex PBTs (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-pbt-keycaps?mode=guest_open) are the same mold, so have a look at the pictures.Printed sets will be all printed. 1.5/1 key will have same as the 1.25 counterpart in the set, not blank.So they have nips then?
The sets DO NOT have scoops.
Post by: spartan7 on Thu, 09 April 2015, 14:36:58
**so jealous** these would look good on any keyboard. so round 2 anyone? lol
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 10 April 2015, 19:13:19
Post by: retainerbox on Fri, 10 April 2015, 19:22:19
Yes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.VERY happy to hear this! :)
Post by: KaLam1ty on Fri, 10 April 2015, 20:10:51
I'd love to have some additions, like Backspaced 1.75x R2's or some FN and PN 1.25 R1's
(in celebration for Poker 3's ;D, yes? yes? Please say yes? :-X)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 10 April 2015, 20:14:20
Post by: LechnerDE on Sat, 11 April 2015, 01:22:39
Yes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Post by: lolkey on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:39:46
Future set could have legend that say anything, in any typeface. Only problem is if there is enough buyers that want [insert legend style here] sets.
I'd be in for a Helvetica set, like the Feenix keyboard -
(http://i.imgur.com/vqW0ae7.jpg)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 11 April 2015, 14:11:08
Yes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Post by: spartan7 on Sat, 11 April 2015, 14:57:57
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Mon, 13 April 2015, 08:04:54
Yes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
Post by: HPE1000 on Mon, 13 April 2015, 08:05:59
Thank you for your inputYes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Mon, 13 April 2015, 08:12:32
Thank you for your inputYes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
You're welcome.
Post by: tbc on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:39:20
Thank you for your inputYes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
You're welcome.
thank you for your input
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Mon, 13 April 2015, 19:10:37
Thank you for your inputYes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
You're welcome.
thank you for your input
You're welcome.
Post by: RedRoboHood on Mon, 13 April 2015, 20:13:11
Thank you for your inputYes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
You're welcome.
thank you for your input
You're welcome.
Thank you for your input.
More
:))
Post by: badboybry9000 on Tue, 14 April 2015, 09:25:43
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Tue, 14 April 2015, 10:41:26
Thank you for your inputYes I will make another round after I have finished with delivery on this one.
Are you talking about another dyesub GB in general or about this exact set with another keycap supplier?
You are not really known for doing the same thing twice :p
Same thing more or less. Different vendor though, not interested in waiting a year again :rolleyes:
Consider having the blanks shipped out first next round. Also, I don't think PLUM is really to blame here, these caps have been with IMSTO for months.
You're welcome.
thank you for your input
You're welcome.
Thank you for your input.More:))
you'RE WELcome
Post by: Keytrun on Tue, 14 April 2015, 21:08:15
Post by: FreeCopy on Tue, 14 April 2015, 21:27:05
So what's going on with these atm? I sold my set a while ago. Is there really no other place to get cherry profile thick black PBT caps?
(Attachment Link)
Got word that they are preparing the shipment, so it should be on it's way to me in the next week or so.
Post by: j0hnny on Wed, 15 April 2015, 11:30:14
So what's going on with these atm? I sold my set a while ago. Is there really no other place to get cherry profile thick black PBT caps?
We are thanking sergeant shart for his input.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Wed, 15 April 2015, 15:23:01
So what's going on with these atm? I sold my set a while ago. Is there really no other place to get cherry profile thick black PBT caps?
We are thanking sergeant shart for his input.
You're welcome.
Post by: jalthi on Wed, 15 April 2015, 19:41:43
We are thanking sergeant shart for his input.
Credit where credit is due - let's be honest - this groupbuy would never have happened if it weren't for Shart's encouragement.
Post by: RedRoboHood on Wed, 15 April 2015, 20:30:28
Credit where credit is due - let's be honest - this groupbuy would never have happened if it weren't for Shart's encouragement.
Yep, always there to help everyone look at the bright side of things. I can't imagine how dark and negatively connotated this thread would be without him. :thumb:
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Wed, 15 April 2015, 20:50:17
Post by: taylordcraig on Wed, 15 April 2015, 20:54:00
All of this banter is great and all, but some of us use email notifications to get useful updates as we have busy lives and can't be on GH refreshing threads all day. All the pointless back and forth is not really contributing at this point and is just blowing up people's inboxes with unnecessary notifications. :(
Agreed.
Let's agree all of your input is pointless as of here on out and keep your keyboard warrioring to other threads.
Post by: KatzenKinder on Wed, 15 April 2015, 21:05:17
So what's going on with these atm? I sold my set a while ago. Is there really no other place to get cherry profile thick black PBT caps?
I believe Feng has some sets available at his geekkeys website.
Post by: jalthi on Wed, 15 April 2015, 21:14:35
Agreed.
Let's agree all of your input is pointless as of here on out and keep your keyboard warrioring to other threads.
Hey, at least you're not being rude and condescending about the whole thing. There's 70+ pages on a groupbuy that's taken over a year and it's finally winding down - everyone is in good spirits, even Sgt. Shart (I think that's good spirits). Let's take a second to be civil to address concerns we may have.
edit: Unless of course you're telling the guy before you to stfu, in which case I retract my previous statement.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 15 April 2015, 21:15:57
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 15 April 2015, 21:17:06
Post by: strict on Wed, 15 April 2015, 22:52:48
Shipping to me now.
(http://i.imgur.com/XxlaeTK.jpg)
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Thu, 16 April 2015, 07:42:54
All of this banter is great and all, but some of us use email notifications to get useful updates as we have busy lives and can't be on GH refreshing threads all day. All the pointless back and forth is not really contributing at this point and is just blowing up people's inboxes with unnecessary notifications. :(
Oh muffin, I had no idea I was impacting your life so heavily, here I'll stop.
Let's be honest here for a second, nothing in this thread has been worth talking about sing First Quarter last year.
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 16 April 2015, 07:58:00
Shipping to me now.Yay!
Can you post some pics when you get them?
I'd love to see some pics with the set on a korean board with the 7x spacebar and 1.5 mods.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Thu, 16 April 2015, 08:16:18
Shipping to me now.Ivan This is great news thank you for sticking through this GB even though it seems like its been a roller coaster ride! If that pic that was posted is an actual shot of these caps then it looks like they came out great :thumb:
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 16 April 2015, 12:55:40
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 22 April 2015, 20:24:07
I'll begin packing up and sending orders out tomorrow.
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Post by: rainb1ood on Wed, 22 April 2015, 20:27:08
Post by: strict on Wed, 22 April 2015, 20:40:00
After a very long wait, the sets have finally arrived!
I'll begin packing up and sending orders out tomorrow.
(Attachment Link)
I love your trippy couch :)
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 20:41:26
After a very long wait, the sets have finally arrived!
I'll begin packing up and sending orders out tomorrow.
(Attachment Link)
I love your trippy couch :)
I love the cat on the boxes :)
Thanks Ivan for everything, and I eagerly await getting these in the mail!
Post by: Sed8op8 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 20:46:23
After a very long wait, the sets have finally arrived!I love yur guard cat!! After everyone waiting so long your making sure those caps are protected :)) this is so exciting Ivan :thumb:
I'll begin packing up and sending orders out tomorrow.
(Attachment Link)
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 21:09:59
Post by: Cottonsox on Wed, 22 April 2015, 21:11:44
Post by: tbc on Wed, 22 April 2015, 21:13:10
i wonder what pattern the shipments are going out in
Post by: zippox on Wed, 22 April 2015, 21:19:43
yeeeeeeee
i wonder what pattern the shipments are going out in
Everyone, and then 2 weeks later Sergeant_Shart.
Post by: tbc on Wed, 22 April 2015, 21:33:43
yeeeeeeee
i wonder what pattern the shipments are going out in
Everyone, and then 2 weeks later Sergeant_Shart.
sounds right! his homemade whine is better aged.
Post by: itsaferbie on Wed, 22 April 2015, 21:40:40
Post by: FreeCopy on Thu, 23 April 2015, 00:43:23
Thank you, Ivan!
Post by: t2russo on Thu, 23 April 2015, 01:12:47
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 23 April 2015, 03:18:52
After a very long wait, the sets have finally arrived!
I'll begin packing up and sending orders out tomorrow.
(Attachment Link)
Holy baloney! That's awesome news!
Post by: Danboard on Thu, 23 April 2015, 03:30:15
Post by: Yslen on Thu, 23 April 2015, 03:30:33
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 23 April 2015, 06:38:08
After a very long wait, the sets have finally arrived!Any pictures of it on a board we can see before you send them out or during the mailing process?
I'll begin packing up and sending orders out tomorrow.
(Attachment Link)
Post by: spookymikal on Thu, 23 April 2015, 08:09:16
Post by: rainb1ood on Thu, 23 April 2015, 08:25:13
Post by: j0hnny on Thu, 23 April 2015, 10:42:06
and this will now go on my poker iii now, how times have changed.
Post by: boost on Thu, 23 April 2015, 10:54:58
MOAR PICS, MOAR BOOST!!!
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 23 April 2015, 11:52:12
Since the only digital camera I have is the really awful one in my phone, I don't think I will be able to provide any decent photos of these. With the low contrast it's pretty much impossible to capture it on that thing so I will leave it up to those that get them first to provide some nice photos while the rest are waiting.
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 23 April 2015, 12:05:00
Post by: berserkfan on Thu, 23 April 2015, 13:54:40
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 23 April 2015, 15:39:12
Waiting for blank white thick PBT now...
Yeah I really need a thick white Cherry profile blank pbt set. My GON project can't be finished until I find one.
Post by: jalthi on Thu, 23 April 2015, 15:43:30
I think I speak for everyone when I say I'll be extremely disappointed if you ship these out in anything resembling a timely matter. To stay consistent with this group buy you should now lose the boxes for about 4 weeks, send your cat out to look for them for another 2 months, then report that they were just sitting in the middle of your living room the whole time. Only then can you legitimately attempt to ship them out.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 23 April 2015, 16:09:52
Ivan,
I think I speak for everyone when I say I'll be extremely disappointed if you ship these out in anything resembling a timely matter. To stay consistent with this group buy you should now lose the boxes for about 4 weeks, send your cat out to look for them for another 2 months, then report that they were just sitting in the middle of your living room the whole time. Only then can you legitimately attempt to ship them out.
Implying that any of these delays were Ivan's fault. :thumb:
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 23 April 2015, 16:42:11
Ivan,Oh, you!
I think I speak for everyone when I say I'll be extremely disappointed if you ship these out in anything resembling a timely matter. To stay consistent with this group buy you should now lose the boxes for about 4 weeks, send your cat out to look for them for another 2 months, then report that they were just sitting in the middle of your living room the whole time. Only then can you legitimately attempt to ship them out.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 24 April 2015, 08:15:10
Ivan,
I think I speak for everyone when I say I'll be extremely disappointed if you ship these out in anything resembling a timely matter. To stay consistent with this group buy you should now lose the boxes for about 4 weeks, send your cat out to look for them for another 2 months, then report that they were just sitting in the middle of your living room the whole time. Only then can you legitimately attempt to ship them out.
Woah woah woah buddy, this is no place for the truth. You shut your **** mouth and conform to sucking Ivan's ****. They'll come when they come and you be god damn grateful you could pay for the opportunity.
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 08:20:13
Post by: Yslen on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:29:19
Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:49:34
Genuinely surprised some people around here haven't been given mandatory refunds already. I'm sure there are plenty who'd be happy to take their spot.
Its not worth worrying about. We needed all the help we could get to reach the MOQ for this, and everyone paid the same. It's unwise to think anyone deserves these or doesn't, we all purchased them. Have you heard of a "troll" before?
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Fri, 24 April 2015, 09:59:56
Genuinely surprised some people around here haven't been given mandatory refunds already. I'm sure there are plenty who'd be happy to take their spot.
Its not worth worrying about. We needed all the help we could get to reach the MOQ for this, and everyone paid the same. It's unwise to think anyone deserves these or doesn't, we all purchased them. Have you heard of a "troll" before?
I'm not even trolling. This all started when I was requesting updates because we were going several weeks to months without anything. You J0be Nub and many others decided to start getting offensive. I'm just playing the games you guys continue to play. This is all just par for the course on a 3 year GB.
Post by: Yslen on Fri, 24 April 2015, 10:00:10
I have. The existence of a label for that kind of behaviour doesn't make it acceptable though, in my opinion. Anyway, I'm aware it's not my decision, and you are right about the MOQ. One way or another it's a good thing this group buy has happened, judging by the pictures of the sets.Genuinely surprised some people around here haven't been given mandatory refunds already. I'm sure there are plenty who'd be happy to take their spot.
Its not worth worrying about. We needed all the help we could get to reach the MOQ for this, and everyone paid the same. It's unwise to think anyone deserves these or doesn't, we all purchased them. Have you heard of a "troll" before?
Post by: jalthi on Fri, 24 April 2015, 11:02:45
Certainly it's not worth starting an argument about, so take a deep breath, count down from 10 backwards and let's all enjoy the keycaps when they are delivered.
Post by: Yslen on Fri, 24 April 2015, 11:07:55
Man, some people are just wound up too tightly. I was making a joke, and no I don't blame Ivan for the delays - that's why the entire post centered on a need for him to create an extended delay so he could 'fit in' with the rest of the legs of the group buy.For the record, I know you were just poking fun :)
Certainly it's not worth starting an argument about, so take a deep breath, count down from 10 backwards and let's all enjoy the keycaps when they are delivered.
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 11:40:48
Man, some people are just wound up too tightly. I was making a joke, and no I don't blame Ivan for the delays - that's why the entire post centered on a need for him to create an extended delay so he could 'fit in' with the rest of the legs of the group buy.I think everyone understood that :)
Certainly it's not worth starting an argument about, so take a deep breath, count down from 10 backwards and let's all enjoy the keycaps when they are delivered.
It's just Sergeant_Shart has to make everything about himself but continues to act as if he is trying to help everyone else out. I don't think its been said enough how the OEM is the one with the problems but Sergeant_Shart just has to keep implying ivan is scamming everyone or something.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 24 April 2015, 12:38:02
Man, some people are just wound up too tightly. I was making a joke, and no I don't blame Ivan for the delays - that's why the entire post centered on a need for him to create an extended delay so he could 'fit in' with the rest of the legs of the group buy.For the record, I know you were just poking fun :)
Certainly it's not worth starting an argument about, so take a deep breath, count down from 10 backwards and let's all enjoy the keycaps when they are delivered.
I assumed that as well, I just found it unnecessary to make the joke implying it was Ivan's fault. Perhaps it was an overly sensitive reaction. Regardless, I think we can all (well, mostly all) agree that we're happy this is drawing to a close. :)
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 24 April 2015, 13:03:43
Regardless, I think we can all (well, mostly all) agree that we're happy this is drawing to a close. :)
I can get behind that :D
Post by: Yslen on Fri, 24 April 2015, 13:14:41
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 24 April 2015, 13:32:10
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 24 April 2015, 13:39:39
Cats not included!!!
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
Can I get two caps the first month? That 104th month is going to be really busy for me so I'd like to have the full set before then.
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 13:42:18
Cats not included!!!igetthatreference.xml
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 24 April 2015, 13:43:01
Cats not included!!!omfg I cannot wait that long does anyone want to buy my order!! :)) THAT WAS ALSO A JOKE thanks Ivan too bad about the cat though ...
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
Post by: geniekid on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:18:01
Cats not included!!!
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
Frankly, this is getting a little ridiculous - with the amount of time we've been waiting I feel like you should be sending 3-4 keys MINIMUM a month, if not 5-6.
Post by: trizkut on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:20:04
Cats not included!!!
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
Frankly, this is getting a little ridiculous - with the amount of time we've been waiting I feel like you should be sending 3-4 keys MINIMUM a month, if not 5-6.
Thank you for your input.
:)) :)) :))
Post by: j0hnny on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:33:17
Genuinely surprised some people around here haven't been given mandatory refunds already. I'm sure there are plenty who'd be happy to take their spot.
Its not worth worrying about. We needed all the help we could get to reach the MOQ for this, and everyone paid the same. It's unwise to think anyone deserves these or doesn't, we all purchased them. Have you heard of a "troll" before?
I'm not even trolling. This all started when I was requesting updates because we were going several weeks to months without anything. You J0be Nub and many others decided to start getting offensive. I'm just playing the games you guys continue to play. This is all just par for the course on a 3 year GB.
Thank you for your input
Post by: tbc on Fri, 24 April 2015, 15:23:35
Cats not included!!!igetthatreference.json
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
FTFY
Post by: RedRoboHood on Fri, 24 April 2015, 15:49:05
Cats not included!!!igetthatreference.mdf
I'll just go ahead and send these out in a ONE KEY per month schedule, so no one is disappointed with the delivery time frame. In only a short 104 months, you will have the full set ready to use :D
[THAT IS A JOKE, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS OBLIVIOUS TO HUMOR]
FTFY
FTFTFYFY
Genuinely surprised some people around here haven't been given mandatory refunds already. I'm sure there are plenty who'd be happy to take their spot.
Its not worth worrying about. We needed all the help we could get to reach the MOQ for this, and everyone paid the same. It's unwise to think anyone deserves these or doesn't, we all purchased them. Have you heard of a "troll" before?
I'm not even trolling. This all started when I was requesting updates because we were going several weeks to months without anything. You J0be Nub and many others decided to start getting offensive. I'm just playing the games you guys continue to play. This is all just par for the course on a 3 year GB.
Thank you for your input
You're wel- crap, wrong account...
Post by: taylordcraig on Sat, 25 April 2015, 14:58:48
That is great news! 1 year 5 months 8 days is worth the wait!
****, was it really that long? Haha.
I'm so ****ing hype. I don't even know what board I'll use these on. XD
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 25 April 2015, 16:28:57
Post by: tbc on Sat, 25 April 2015, 16:41:02
Well, with the addition of the 1.5 mods, 7x spacebar, and 1.75 shift you are really not too limited on where you can place them board wise.
wait wat.
1.75x rshift? like for a 75% board
OMFGZORZWTFBBQ for everyone!!!
Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 25 April 2015, 17:01:03
Well, with the addition of the 1.5 mods, 7x spacebar, and 1.75 shift you are really not too limited on where you can place them board wise.Wow! I guess I missed that info on the first go around. I didn't know their was a 1.75 shift. Great!
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 25 April 2015, 20:36:03
Well, with the addition of the 1.5 mods, 7x spacebar, and 1.75 shift you are really not too limited on where you can place them board wise.
I didn't realize a 1.75u shift was being included! This set just keeps getting better.
Post by: jorgenslee on Sat, 25 April 2015, 23:27:02
Well, with the addition of the 1.5 mods, 7x spacebar, and 1.75 shift you are really not too limited on where you can place them board wise.
I didn't realize a 1.75u shift was being included! This set just keeps getting better.
omg, I wish I didn't ordered a blank set so I don't have to sell it. Anyone has black on black set they are willing to part?
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 25 April 2015, 23:34:52
+1 I'll be making a formal WTB soon, but if anyone has an extra Black on Black set their looking for someone to take, please let me know! :)Well, with the addition of the 1.5 mods, 7x spacebar, and 1.75 shift you are really not too limited on where you can place them board wise.
I didn't realize a 1.75u shift was being included! This set just keeps getting better.
omg, I wish I didn't ordered a blank set so I don't have to sell it. Anyone has black on black set they are willing to part?
Post by: byker on Sun, 26 April 2015, 00:02:09
Post by: berserkfan on Sun, 26 April 2015, 12:04:18
Well, with the addition of the 1.5 mods, 7x spacebar, and 1.75 shift you are really not too limited on where you can place them board wise.
Still nothing for a matrix board, hehheh. Or for custom layouts. Heehee.
(There is always a way to find fault with any group buy) :p
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 26 April 2015, 12:31:03
Sure, there is always some key someone will be wanting that isn't available. But at least a LOT of progress has been made with getting the molds done for more common keys. Hopefully ISO enter which has been one of big hang ups for international buyers will be taken care of soon too. It will be nice to have the option to offer some of the really hard to find language layout that are generally ISO when/if that finally comes through.
Post by: catbuster on Mon, 27 April 2015, 04:34:45
Waiting for blank white thick PBT now...
Yeah I really need a thick white Cherry profile blank pbt set. My GON project can't be finished until I find one.
Yes i want white blanks also ! :) cant wait for my blank blacks get shipped also :D
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Mon, 27 April 2015, 07:19:49
For those that missed out, I will be doing another round as soon as I finish shipping this one. Of course the lead time will be much faster next time too.
Sure, there is always some key someone will be wanting that isn't available. But at least a LOT of progress has been made with getting the molds done for more common keys. Hopefully ISO enter which has been one of big hang ups for international buyers will be taken care of soon too. It will be nice to have the option to offer some of the really hard to find language layout that are generally ISO when/if that finally comes through.
Any chance of a 'BLACK vs WHITE' round next?
Post by: YoJinBro on Mon, 27 April 2015, 08:12:42
this group buy is the reason i joined GH.
and this will now go on my poker iii now, how times have changed.
Same here! A lot has happened in the year+. I have moved almost completely away from Cherry MX, with just a couple of Poker II's remaining (with keycaps that I'm 100% happy with and do not want to change) -- I might need to buy a new keyboard just so I have somewhere to put these keycaps!! The fun never ends.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 27 April 2015, 10:34:39
In regard for white... I may look into doing some POM sets in the near future. Those will only be available as blank, but should be pretty cheap like somewhere around $27-35 a set. Though, on the other hand colors are option too... so we could go for some bright neon color or something too. I only worry about making MOQ for those.
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 27 April 2015, 10:51:54
As I already said, I will be offering black PBTs again as soon as these are done shipping.Would something like jelly POM be possible? :eek:
In regard for white... I may look into doing some POM sets in the near future. Those will only be available as blank, but should be pretty cheap like somewhere around $27-35 a set. Though, on the other hand colors are option too... so we could go for some bright neon color or something too. I only worry about making MOQ for those.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Mon, 27 April 2015, 10:59:00
As I already said, I will be offering black PBTs again as soon as these are done shipping.Would something like jelly POM be possible? :eek:
In regard for white... I may look into doing some POM sets in the near future. Those will only be available as blank, but should be pretty cheap like somewhere around $27-35 a set. Though, on the other hand colors are option too... so we could go for some bright neon color or something too. I only worry about making MOQ for those.
White Jelly POM would be so sweet. Difference colors would be fun as well, I'd love to see a nice purple!
Post by: KatzenKinder on Mon, 27 April 2015, 10:59:59
As I already said, I will be offering black PBTs again as soon as these are done shipping.
In regard for white... I may look into doing some POM sets in the near future. Those will only be available as blank, but should be pretty cheap like somewhere around $27-35 a set. Though, on the other hand colors are option too... so we could go for some bright neon color or something too. I only worry about making MOQ for those.
Oh god, would these be Cherry profile? If buy so many sets if different colors were available.
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:04:56
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:13:26
I'm not sure about the opacity of white or other colors... but it might be possible to get them semi translucent 'jelly' type. I've been talking to them a little about it. Will have to see how some samples turn out.
If a color is picked instead of white, keep in mind it's still a 300 MOQ per color, so I am not too sure of the feasibility of offering more than one color at a time.
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:15:55
Of course POM would be done in Cherry profile, it same company same molds as these PBTs so the same key selection would be available.
I'm not sure about the opacity of white or other colors... but it might be possible to get them semi translucent 'jelly' type. I've been talking to them a little about it. Will have to see how some samples turn out.
If a color is picked instead of white, keep in mind it's still a 300 MOQ per color, so I am not too sure of the feasibility of offering more than one color at a time.
EDIT: Wrong! 500 is the number, nevermind
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:21:47
Of course POM would be done in Cherry profile, it same company same molds as these PBTs so the same key selection would be available.Hmmm, feng had a MOQ of 250 on his jelly sets.
I'm not sure about the opacity of white or other colors... but it might be possible to get them semi translucent 'jelly' type. I've been talking to them a little about it. Will have to see how some samples turn out.
If a color is picked instead of white, keep in mind it's still a 300 MOQ per color, so I am not too sure of the feasibility of offering more than one color at a time.
Was that the actual vendor MOQ or the user MOQ that he was subsidizing with his own vendor purchases? Also, was it the same supplier?
Post by: wlhlm on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:27:16
Of course POM would be done in Cherry profile, it same company same molds as these PBTs so the same key selection would be available.Hmmm, feng had a MOQ of 250 on his jelly sets.
I'm not sure about the opacity of white or other colors... but it might be possible to get them semi translucent 'jelly' type. I've been talking to them a little about it. Will have to see how some samples turn out.
If a color is picked instead of white, keep in mind it's still a 300 MOQ per color, so I am not too sure of the feasibility of offering more than one color at a time.
Was that the actual vendor MOQ or the user MOQ that he was subsidizing with his own vendor purchases? Also, was it the same supplier?
Oops, it actually was 500! Sorry, my mistake.
The manufactory requires 500 MOQ which is really hard to reach. I might be doing a interest check first to see how many are interested.
Nevermind.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:29:24
Of course POM would be done in Cherry profile, it same company same molds as these PBTs so the same key selection would be available.Hmmm, feng had a MOQ of 250 on his jelly sets.
I'm not sure about the opacity of white or other colors... but it might be possible to get them semi translucent 'jelly' type. I've been talking to them a little about it. Will have to see how some samples turn out.
If a color is picked instead of white, keep in mind it's still a 300 MOQ per color, so I am not too sure of the feasibility of offering more than one color at a time.
Was that the actual vendor MOQ or the user MOQ that he was subsidizing with his own vendor purchases? Also, was it the same supplier?
Oops, it actually was 500! Sorry, my mistake.The manufactory requires 500 MOQ which is really hard to reach. I might be doing a interest check first to see how many are interested.
Nevermind.
Ah! Well there we go. 300 isn't so bad after all! :D
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 27 April 2015, 11:29:53
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 27 April 2015, 12:24:39
We could totally hit 300 for a hot pink cap set.
Count me in, also a matching set in a purple bliss type color.
Post by: henz on Mon, 27 April 2015, 15:14:25
We could totally hit 300 for a hot pink cap set.
Post by: Lu_e on Mon, 27 April 2015, 16:46:12
just waitin on my blanks
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 28 April 2015, 12:57:09
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Tue, 28 April 2015, 16:32:10
Once I know more about what is possible in POM I will make some kind of interest check with a poll or something and go from there. Or, I could just play it safe and go with white as POM takes dye really well too so people can always DIY colors with idye or whatever.
You should definitely consider doing white, it would be very easy to hit MOQ.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 April 2015, 00:15:04
Post by: Loligagger on Wed, 29 April 2015, 02:01:35
Post by: tbc on Wed, 29 April 2015, 03:11:39
I assume those who've had theirs shipped will be getting PMs soon?
for your tracking #?
pretty sure ivan will only give if you pm him for it.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 29 April 2015, 10:39:09
That said, I can always provide tracking (where applicable) if package is overdue or something so you can follow up with the post office.
Post by: Michael on Wed, 29 April 2015, 10:43:08
Nope, I don't individually notify or send tracking number anymore. It takes up too much of my time which is better spent actually getting packages sent.
That said, I can always provide tracking (where applicable) if package is overdue or something so you can follow up with the post office.
PM'd
Post by: strict on Wed, 29 April 2015, 11:35:12
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 29 April 2015, 11:37:57
Wife said I got a package from Ivan today, I'm thinking its my pitch black sets! So freaking hyped I might leave work early so I can go drool all over these keys. :))
I wish I had a wife to receive my packages. :(
Post by: jalthi on Wed, 29 April 2015, 14:03:03
I wish I had a wife to receive my packages. :(
In more ways than one! amirite or amirite!? wink, wink, nudge
Sorry, I'll go away now.
Post by: spearman on Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:37:51
OMG they came already! Thanks Ivan!
Post by: strict on Wed, 29 April 2015, 15:58:26
Pictures incoming ...
Post by: strict on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:10:46
Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:18:07
Oh man... That is awesome!Show Image(http://imgur.com/XOnTf1B.jpg)
I need to take the keycaps off of two of my boards before these arrive :P
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:21:13
Show Image(http://imgur.com/XOnTf1B.jpg)
I'm not even a big fan of black caps, but I can see that I'm going to regret not getting these.
Post by: Danboard on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:26:05
Show Image(http://imgur.com/XOnTf1B.jpg)
Nice! More pictures please!
Post by: strict on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:45:42
Also, scoops + nibs = sex
Post by: HTN47 on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:49:00
Someone pleaseee sell me your extra set :'(
Post by: Danboard on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:51:27
Show Image(http://imgur.com/Ypx3Vlh.jpg)
Also, scoops + nibs = sex
Looks perfect! I can't wait to get my set!
Post by: strict on Wed, 29 April 2015, 16:52:32
(http://imgur.com/dzpFSTF.jpg)
Post by: fknraiden on Wed, 29 April 2015, 17:04:12
Post by: Danboard on Wed, 29 April 2015, 17:04:41
(https://massdrop-cf2.imgix.net/resizer/1500x1000/r/MD-3293_20140807135227_03c49a519b7583d0.png?fm=jpg&q=70)
Post by: Unknown01011010 on Wed, 29 April 2015, 17:22:45
Not the best lighting, it makes it look more navy colored than it actually is.Show Image(http://imgur.com/dzpFSTF.jpg)
Yo, that's actually pretty cool. That mysterious blue hue at a certain light level gives these black caps that extra mythical status. They are like a Dark Souls rare drop or something.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Wed, 29 April 2015, 17:30:56
Post by: regack on Wed, 29 April 2015, 17:31:16
Post by: YoJinBro on Wed, 29 April 2015, 17:43:54
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 29 April 2015, 17:47:00
Not the best lighting, it makes it look more navy colored than it actually is.Show Image(http://imgur.com/dzpFSTF.jpg)
woo!! looks great, man.
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 29 April 2015, 17:54:01
These look alot better than I expected!Not the best lighting, it makes it look more navy colored than it actually is.Show Image(http://imgur.com/dzpFSTF.jpg)
woo!! looks great, man.
Wow!
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 29 April 2015, 17:55:11
I think that's always a problem with keycap group buys. Hard to tell from renders. Need a production sample.These look alot better than I expected!Not the best lighting, it makes it look more navy colored than it actually is.Show Image(http://imgur.com/dzpFSTF.jpg)
woo!! looks great, man.
Wow!
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 29 April 2015, 17:55:32
Post by: strict on Wed, 29 April 2015, 17:58:52
(http://imgur.com/MiCxLcQ.jpg)
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Post by: t2russo on Wed, 29 April 2015, 21:35:31
First impressions? **** BSP Black Otaku. Should have never been impatient and given a dime towards that other buy. This was worth every minute of the wait, my only regret is I didn't buy two of each.
Post by: tbc on Wed, 29 April 2015, 21:55:58
my only regret is I didn't buy two of each.
you and everyone else... xD
except oobly
Post by: spearman on Thu, 30 April 2015, 00:16:00
http://imgur.com/gHa67ID
Post by: naasfu on Thu, 30 April 2015, 01:14:21
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 30 April 2015, 01:46:17
First impressions? **** BSP Black Otaku. Should have never been impatient and given a dime towards that other buy. This was worth every minute of the wait, my only regret is I didn't buy two of each.
Can you be more specific?
Post by: atlas3686 on Thu, 30 April 2015, 02:03:44
Post by: bueller on Thu, 30 April 2015, 02:04:51
Post by: janvkn on Thu, 30 April 2015, 03:15:30
Not the best lighting, it makes it look more navy colored than it actually is.Show Image(http://imgur.com/dzpFSTF.jpg)
Damn ... I didn't know I wanted this, but I do :eek:
Post by: watterrbottle on Thu, 30 April 2015, 03:38:41
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 30 April 2015, 03:43:33
my only regret is I didn't buy two of each.
you and everyone else... xD
except oobly
(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Stupid+smug+face+i+ve+never+watched+top+gear+but+this_6ed84a_5433669.gif)
Well actually... I traded one of my printed sets.. sigh.
But it was for Penumbra, so I'm okay with that.
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 30 April 2015, 06:20:37
Blanks on my Phantom (in a Filco ninja case)
Can you take a photo of a filco cap next to the new keycaps? These look just like the grey vortex caps on massdrop from the pics.
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 30 April 2015, 06:28:57
Ivan said that the Vortex caps come from the same molds.Blanks on my Phantom (in a Filco ninja case)
Can you take a photo of a filco cap next to the new keycaps? These look just like the grey vortex caps on massdrop from the pics.
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 30 April 2015, 06:57:00
Ivan said that the Vortex caps come from the same molds.Blanks on my Phantom (in a Filco ninja case)
Can you take a photo of a filco cap next to the new keycaps? These look just like the grey vortex caps on massdrop from the pics.
Aren't molds just for the shape and profile? More concerned with how grey they look, at least in the pictures being shown.
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 30 April 2015, 06:58:48
Ahh, I see.Ivan said that the Vortex caps come from the same molds.Blanks on my Phantom (in a Filco ninja case)
Can you take a photo of a filco cap next to the new keycaps? These look just like the grey vortex caps on massdrop from the pics.
Aren't molds just for the shape and profile? More concerned with how grey they look, at least in the pictures being shown.
Post by: rainb1ood on Thu, 30 April 2015, 08:16:04
Post by: jamster on Thu, 30 April 2015, 08:54:04
Huh, interesting. I thought that Ivan had previously said that the home keys were not scooped. Scoops are gud.
Show Image(http://imgur.com/Ypx3Vlh.jpg)
Also, scoops + nibs = sex
Post by: spookymikal on Thu, 30 April 2015, 09:23:44
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 30 April 2015, 09:25:50
People in the states getting their keys - are these coming via USPS? My apartment has all sorts of wacky rituals that need to be conducted before I can pick up packages and different shipping companies require different rites to be conducted.
The original post states in the details that all orders are shipped USPS.
Post by: zippox on Thu, 30 April 2015, 09:33:52
People in the states getting their keys - are these coming via USPS? My apartment has all sorts of wacky rituals that need to be conducted before I can pick up packages and different shipping companies require different rites to be conducted.
Maybe you should pick up a sacrificial lamb on the way home.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 30 April 2015, 12:30:44
Post by: spookymikal on Thu, 30 April 2015, 13:49:50
Basically, my space bar is sticking with this new one. I put on the old one and it works just fine but when I press the spacebar with the new guy on there it's not springing back up correctly, it's like he just wants to be there bottomed out. Any tips?
P.S. they look sexy as hell Ivan is Awesome!
edit- if i just *barely* press it onto the switch then it's working just fine now. it sits a few mm higher than the other keys though. Think it just needs to be "worn in"
Edit 2: Potato pic. I use a black cable @ home, white was all I had onhand at the office.
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Post by: badboybry9000 on Thu, 30 April 2015, 16:20:19
I just got my keys and started slapping em onto my KUL ES-87. It's a pretty common board, so if anyone else is in my shoes let me know:
Basically, my space bar is sticking with this new one. I put on the old one and it works just fine but when I press the spacebar with the new guy on there it's not springing back up correctly, it's like he just wants to be there bottomed out. Any tips?
P.S. they look sexy as hell Ivan is Awesome!
edit- if i just *barely* press it onto the switch then it's working just fine now. it sits a few mm higher than the other keys though. Think it just needs to be "worn in"
Edit 2: Potato pic. I use a black cable @ home, white was all I had onhand at the office.
I had a similar problem with my spacebar but on a much different keyboard so I don't know if this will help you in any way. My keyboard is a modded filco with a universal TKL plate and cherry stabilizers. My problem ended up being caused by the stabilizer bar. It was probably 1mm too wide so it was binding against the inside of the stabilizer assembly. I had to shave off some metal with a dremel.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Thu, 30 April 2015, 16:22:13
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 30 April 2015, 17:15:57
I just got my keys and started slapping em onto my KUL ES-87. It's a pretty common board, so if anyone else is in my shoes let me know:
Basically, my space bar is sticking with this new one. I put on the old one and it works just fine but when I press the spacebar with the new guy on there it's not springing back up correctly, it's like he just wants to be there bottomed out. Any tips?
P.S. they look sexy as hell Ivan is Awesome!
edit- if i just *barely* press it onto the switch then it's working just fine now. it sits a few mm higher than the other keys though. Think it just needs to be "worn in"
Edit 2: Potato pic. I use a black cable @ home, white was all I had onhand at the office.
I had a similar problem with my spacebar but on a much different keyboard so I don't know if this will help you in any way. My keyboard is a modded filco with a universal TKL plate and cherry stabilizers. My problem ended up being caused by the stabilizer bar. It was probably 1mm too wide so it was binding against the inside of the stabilizer assembly. I had to shave off some metal with a dremel.
+1 most likely your stabilizer is rubbing
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 30 April 2015, 20:46:36
+2. Stabilizer is rubbing. You need to sand or "shave" the inside of the spacebar to give the stabilizer an extra .25mm of room on the insides of both sides.I just got my keys and started slapping em onto my KUL ES-87. It's a pretty common board, so if anyone else is in my shoes let me know:
Basically, my space bar is sticking with this new one. I put on the old one and it works just fine but when I press the spacebar with the new guy on there it's not springing back up correctly, it's like he just wants to be there bottomed out. Any tips?
P.S. they look sexy as hell Ivan is Awesome!
edit- if i just *barely* press it onto the switch then it's working just fine now. it sits a few mm higher than the other keys though. Think it just needs to be "worn in"
Edit 2: Potato pic. I use a black cable @ home, white was all I had onhand at the office.
I had a similar problem with my spacebar but on a much different keyboard so I don't know if this will help you in any way. My keyboard is a modded filco with a universal TKL plate and cherry stabilizers. My problem ended up being caused by the stabilizer bar. It was probably 1mm too wide so it was binding against the inside of the stabilizer assembly. I had to shave off some metal with a dremel.
+1 most likely your stabilizer is rubbing
Post by: zippox on Fri, 01 May 2015, 09:14:29
+2. Stabilizer is rubbing. You need to sand or "shave" the inside of the spacebar to give the stabilizer an extra .25mm of room on the insides of both sides.
Could you post a picture of what the spacebar looks like after that? And what tool did you use?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 01 May 2015, 11:55:39
Post by: cannonking on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:47:40
Yes, on the 6.25 due to how many different spots there are for the stabilizer mount I can see how that may cause some rubbing issues, especially with Cherry stabs. Clipping the walls off the stabilizer slider guide may also be another way to solve it.I thought Costar stabs were the problematic ones?
Post by: Unknown01011010 on Fri, 01 May 2015, 18:54:24
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 01 May 2015, 20:46:29
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:41:38
Post by: Unknown01011010 on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:49:26
These don't have markings for which row, so just start with the bigger keys and it becomes apparent where everything belongs. Cherry has the same basic shape as OEM as well, they are all just shorter.
Thanks Ivan for the help and the sweet keycaps! I think I got it. ^-^
For anyone else who needs help installing Cherry profile blanks, here's an album. Included are two pics of a Poker II (blues) with the official black aluminum case and these keycaps. The third pic shows the Cherry profile rows, and the fourth pic shows where those rows go. Album: http://imgur.com/a/e6ql0
Looks like I have 8 keys left over (four 1.5 R1, two normal R1, one R2 weird shift, one big spacebar). Is that normal?
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Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 04:02:46
:DWill you have any sets for sale imsto?
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Your dyesub skill has become gorgeous after these years' work!
Post by: imsto on Sat, 02 May 2015, 04:13:43
later:DWill you have any sets for sale imsto?
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Post by: noons on Sat, 02 May 2015, 09:31:36
Post by: Sed8op8 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 09:39:49
:DYou picked the PERFECT board to showcase this set my god ! What model cherry is this IMSTO? Looks gorgeous.
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Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 09:41:27
That's a g80-3000.:DYou picked the PERFECT board to showcase this set my god ! What model cherry is this IMSTO? Looks gorgeous.
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Post by: Sed8op8 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 09:47:06
is this rare I'm going to try and hunt one down heheThat's a g80-3000.:DYou picked the PERFECT board to showcase this set my god ! What model cherry is this IMSTO? Looks gorgeous.
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Edit: found one for $80 and i just noticed its a full size :(
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 09:48:38
Nope, you can find them all over the place. They don't have the best build quality though.is this rare I'm going to try and hunt one down heheThat's a g80-3000.:DYou picked the PERFECT board to showcase this set my god ! What model cherry is this IMSTO? Looks gorgeous.
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Post by: Sed8op8 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 09:50:07
thanks flyers I just went from :eek: to :) to :(Nope, you can find them all over the place. They are flimsy as hell though.is this rare I'm going to try and hunt one down heheThat's a g80-3000.:DYou picked the PERFECT board to showcase this set my god ! What model cherry is this IMSTO? Looks gorgeous.
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Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:04:22
I think they compliment a Filco case very well, that's what I would put a set on if I ever find one!thanks flyers I just went from :eek: to :) to :(Nope, you can find them all over the place. They are flimsy as hell though.is this rare I'm going to try and hunt one down heheThat's a g80-3000.:DYou picked the PERFECT board to showcase this set my god ! What model cherry is this IMSTO? Looks gorgeous.
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Post by: Latin00032 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:33:45
:DWhy does the spacebar look different?
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Post by: Yslen on Sat, 02 May 2015, 10:53:54
Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 13:10:32
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Post by: jalthi on Sat, 02 May 2015, 14:17:49
I think they compliment a Filco case very well, that's what I would put a set on if I ever find one!
Crappy image quality thanks to my ancient phone, but this is them on a Filco with/without flash.
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Post by: lolkey on Sat, 02 May 2015, 15:50:14
I think they compliment a Filco case very well, that's what I would put a set on if I ever find one!
Crappy image quality thanks to my ancient phone, but this is them on a Filco with/without flash.
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Did you have any issues with the stabilizers rubbing?
Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 02 May 2015, 18:37:52
Filco has wire stabs so it should work fine.
I think they compliment a Filco case very well, that's what I would put a set on if I ever find one!
Crappy image quality thanks to my ancient phone, but this is them on a Filco with/without flash.
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Did you have any issues with the stabilizers rubbing?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 02 May 2015, 19:01:57
Post by: strict on Sat, 02 May 2015, 19:20:53
Post by: Sed8op8 on Sat, 02 May 2015, 19:47:07
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 02 May 2015, 19:48:07
Post by: dannyp on Sat, 02 May 2015, 20:16:18
Album here: https://imgur.com/a/11rg6
Thanks Ivan, you're the man. I love these! they are replacing the Filco Blank set I got several years back: http://www.diatec.co.jp/en/det.php?prod_c=611 which I found to be too glossy. These feel so nice. Thanks for being patient with all the people complaining.
I hope others continue to post pictures of their setup!
Post by: Lu_e on Sat, 02 May 2015, 21:30:42
Post by: Matias on Sat, 02 May 2015, 21:36:00
I've found that PBT is easily scratched with a fingernail. Needless to say, if you're going to try scratching one, do it on a spare keycap, or an edge/side that's not visible.
Post by: dannyp on Sat, 02 May 2015, 21:36:20
Post by: Arizone on Sat, 02 May 2015, 23:26:34
(http://i.cubeupload.com/37Xy2b.jpg)
(http://i.cubeupload.com/N5z39r.jpg)
(http://i.cubeupload.com/9QgYID.jpg)
Post by: dannyp on Sat, 02 May 2015, 23:56:34
Realized after I took these photos that the K key was the wrong profile. Doh.I noticed your space bar stabilizer bar is visible, I think something might not be aligned perfectly on yours right now because mine is completely hidden. I can't see the metal at all.Show Image(http://i.cubeupload.com/37Xy2b.jpg)Show Image(http://i.cubeupload.com/N5z39r.jpg)Show Image(http://i.cubeupload.com/9QgYID.jpg)
I like the red LED change, the blue is really bright. Got any tips on doing that? Is it just a matter of a little solder?
Post by: Arizone on Sun, 03 May 2015, 02:16:53
It's aligned fine and on as far as it will go, I don't know why it seems to sit just a tad higher. I know it is warped just slightly upward on the ends but even then.Realized after I took these photos that the K key was the wrong profile. Doh.I noticed your space bar stabilizer bar is visible, I think something might not be aligned perfectly on yours right now because mine is completely hidden. I can't see the metal at all.Show Image(http://i.cubeupload.com/37Xy2b.jpg)Show Image(http://i.cubeupload.com/N5z39r.jpg)Show Image(http://i.cubeupload.com/9QgYID.jpg)
I like the red LED change, the blue is really bright. Got any tips on doing that? Is it just a matter of a little solder?
It came with a red LED. It's a Majestouch II Ninja with red switches, which might be why. Shouldn't be hard to change though.
Post by: naasfu on Sun, 03 May 2015, 05:45:30
(http://i.imgur.com/PrLIOax.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/olHd2sE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WNaKQ0Y.jpg)
Post by: wlhlm on Sun, 03 May 2015, 07:31:41
Post by: Lu_e on Sun, 03 May 2015, 17:00:18
Lu_e, I noticed mine came with 2 scoops for home and 1 non-scoop for the keypad. All three are lines though, and since I bought two sets I can either do scoops or non-scoops! :D
I only bought 1 set... a no scoops option/extra row2 keys or whatever would have been really nice. I'm kinda one for uniformity, and this is a big surprise. (no I haven't tried scoops, nor did I plan on buying any) But hey with the way this group buy is going anything is possible.
Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 03 May 2015, 17:13:25
It's been a pleasure serving with you gentlemen.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 03 May 2015, 22:06:39
Got my sets today. A couple of keys were missing that I'm hoping imsto will help fix me up with, but otherwise I really love the look and feel of these.Awesome pictures as always Naasfu! I really want to see someone post the Cyrillic version!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PrLIOax.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/olHd2sE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WNaKQ0Y.jpg)
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 03 May 2015, 22:16:01
If keys are missing, do we talk to imsto or Ivan?Got my sets today. A couple of keys were missing that I'm hoping imsto will help fix me up with, but otherwise I really love the look and feel of these.Awesome pictures as always Naasfu! I really want to see someone post the Cyrillic version!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PrLIOax.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/olHd2sE.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/WNaKQ0Y.jpg)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 04 May 2015, 08:15:35
Post by: rainb1ood on Mon, 04 May 2015, 15:03:40
Heres some comparison between this and from the Vortex Mass Drop blank PBT
Left: Ivan GB
Right: Vortex Massdrop GB
(http://i.imgur.com/F1Ahb26.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/JIvEUft.jpg)
The vortex key has label/stamp which profile is the key
(http://i.imgur.com/ZPJ4eHN.jpg)
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Mon, 04 May 2015, 18:06:29
Just received mine (was in our old house, forgot to ask Ivan to change shipping address). Gonna check if everythings okay.
Heres some comparison between this and from the Vortex Mass Drop blank PBT
Left: Ivan GB
Right: Vortex Massdrop GBShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/F1Ahb26.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JIvEUft.jpg)
The vortex key has label/stamp which profile is the keyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZPJ4eHN.jpg)
The Vortex look nicer, glad I didn't pass on those to wait here. Probably just sell these.
Post by: jalthi on Mon, 04 May 2015, 20:48:01
The Vortex look nicer, glad I didn't pass on those to wait here. Probably just sell these.
Dude just give it a rest already.
Post by: GSimon on Mon, 04 May 2015, 23:13:41
Just received mine (was in our old house, forgot to ask Ivan to change shipping address). Gonna check if everythings okay.
Heres some comparison between this and from the Vortex Mass Drop blank PBT
Left: Ivan GB
Right: Vortex Massdrop GBShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/F1Ahb26.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JIvEUft.jpg)
The vortex key has label/stamp which profile is the keyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZPJ4eHN.jpg)
Aside from the 2nd photo, I can't tell the difference. Glad I got the Black on Black set :thumb:
Post by: lolkey on Tue, 05 May 2015, 05:51:12
Just received mine (was in our old house, forgot to ask Ivan to change shipping address). Gonna check if everythings okay.
Heres some comparison between this and from the Vortex Mass Drop blank PBT
Left: Ivan GB
Right: Vortex Massdrop GBShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/F1Ahb26.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JIvEUft.jpg)
The vortex key has label/stamp which profile is the keyShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZPJ4eHN.jpg)
Aside from the 2nd photo, I can't tell the difference. Glad I got the Black on Black set :thumb:
The group buy are a shade darker and have a smaller horizontal surface top. You can see it better if you have the image full size - http://i.imgur.com/F1Ahb26.jpg
Post by: Veteranos on Tue, 05 May 2015, 08:59:34
but as far as this comparison i can tell maybe that the gb set where the cross is for the input, looks so much better than the vortex one.. more sturdy/stable and not "moving" when you touch the keys.
anyways im so excited getting my blank blacks soon :p
Post by: acediac01 on Tue, 05 May 2015, 10:37:16
The keys look like they are floating, and it's exactly what I wanted for this board! If I had a camera, I'd get some pictures. Once I get my phone fixed, maybe some potato pics will suffice.
Thanks Ivan!
Post by: jalthi on Tue, 05 May 2015, 10:38:04
haven't received mine yet probably next week :'(
but as far as this comparison i can tell maybe that the gb set where the cross is for the input, looks so much better than the vortex one.. more sturdy/stable and not "moving" when you touch the keys.
anyways im so excited getting my blank blacks soon :p
I have the exact same setup as you, Filco TKL, Reds, with this gb keycaps - couldn't be happier.
Post by: Loligagger on Tue, 05 May 2015, 18:46:23
Post by: calavera on Wed, 06 May 2015, 00:42:30
Post by: wilflare on Wed, 06 May 2015, 06:10:42
got a package today and I was like huhh??
opened it up and found that I got two sets!!
1x Blanks (112 keys - is that right?)
1x Black on Black (with 2x Blank keys not in a smaller ziplock)
my first set of custom keys ever!
thanks Ivan
PS: anyone has any idea how I should replace the keys on my Filco Brown?
I've removed the old keycaps but do I need to remove those white tabs (used for the metal wire) and put them in these?
and I should go Google the layout again lol
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 06 May 2015, 07:35:39
PS: anyone has any idea how I should replace the keys on my Filco Brown?
I've removed the old keycaps but do I need to remove those white tabs (used for the metal wire) and put them in these?
and I should go Google the layout again lol
Yep you'll need those inserts. Those are the Costar stabilizer inserts, and you'll need to put them in the new keys (mind whether they are frontward or backward, one "side" is longer than the other) and then insert the wire as you replace the keycap. :thumb:
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 09:40:25
When you're placing the inserts, remember that the longer side of the insert faces the back of the board (towards the F-row).
Post by: wilflare on Wed, 06 May 2015, 09:43:00
PS: anyone has any idea how I should replace the keys on my Filco Brown?
I've removed the old keycaps but do I need to remove those white tabs (used for the metal wire) and put them in these?
and I should go Google the layout again lol
Yep you'll need those inserts. Those are the Costar stabilizer inserts, and you'll need to put them in the new keys (mind whether they are frontward or backward, one "side" is longer than the other) and then insert the wire as you replace the keycap. :thumb:
thanks! any idea how to get them off - they seem stuck to my old Filco keycaps :/
and are we supposed to get 114 keys which each pack/order?
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 09:45:52
PS: anyone has any idea how I should replace the keys on my Filco Brown?
I've removed the old keycaps but do I need to remove those white tabs (used for the metal wire) and put them in these?
and I should go Google the layout again lol
Yep you'll need those inserts. Those are the Costar stabilizer inserts, and you'll need to put them in the new keys (mind whether they are frontward or backward, one "side" is longer than the other) and then insert the wire as you replace the keycap. :thumb:
thanks! any idea how to get them off - they seem stuck to my old Filco keycaps :/
and are we supposed to get 114 keys which each pack/order?
In the past, I've pulled inserts out with a small pair of pliers, and levered them out from the cap base with a small flathead screwdriver if there's enough room to get one in there. Just be gentle with them, you don't want to break or deform the insert.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 06 May 2015, 10:43:36
PS: anyone has any idea how I should replace the keys on my Filco Brown?
I've removed the old keycaps but do I need to remove those white tabs (used for the metal wire) and put them in these?
and I should go Google the layout again lol
Yep you'll need those inserts. Those are the Costar stabilizer inserts, and you'll need to put them in the new keys (mind whether they are frontward or backward, one "side" is longer than the other) and then insert the wire as you replace the keycap. :thumb:
thanks! any idea how to get them off - they seem stuck to my old Filco keycaps :/
and are we supposed to get 114 keys which each pack/order?
In the past, I've pulled inserts out with a small pair of pliers, and levered them out from the cap base with a small flathead screwdriver if there's enough room to get one in there. Just be gentle with them, you don't want to break or deform the insert.
When I was "mass-removing" them from old G81-1800 caps when harvesting caps, I got in a rhythm of using the keycap puller to lever them out (like you do with a flathead screwdriver). That worked quite well. If they're really stuck the thin wires of a keycap puller might not be strong enough, so be sure to not bend them. :)
Post by: n7 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 11:50:38
(http://i.imgur.com/HSvVZ3j.jpg)
Post by: lolkey on Wed, 06 May 2015, 16:57:35
I really like the top surface being slightly narrower. Maybe I'm crazy, but it feels like a big difference. Like my fingers don't get snagged on the edges of keys as much as they did with stock Filco keys. The texture also matches the Filco case perfectly. When you look at them from an angle with slight light hitting them, they look like part of the case.
The only con is how tight they are on the stems. You have to put a lot of force to get it on all the way and get it level. Remember not to pull them straight up and off, but to wiggle them back and forth, or you might pull a stem off with the key. Be super careful with the space bar. I forgot to put an o-ring on mine and had to pull it off, and it felt like it was cemented on :eek:. The letter it came with said to maybe use some lube, but that would be a nightmare when it comes time to clean. Lube will attract and buildup the dust, hairs, etc that gets under the keyboard. I think you're better off just letting them wear in over time from pulling them and putting them back on.
Post by: Latin00032 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 22:36:16
I think I have to pick it up from the post office tomorrow.
:(
Post by: ThomasBastiani on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:09:27
I just thought it would be worth telling other people because I got it delivered to the UK and I don't reckon I've seen anyone from Europe saying they got their caps yet. :-D
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:25:37
Post by: janvkn on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:30:58
These are suuuuuper tight, by the way, like ludicrously so. I had to push pretty hard to get them fully seated, the warning they came with was pretty accurate. I put a little silicone lubricant on the stems before putting them on but I'm still a little nervous about eventually taking them off.
Not something to put on a keyboard with mx clears then ...
Post by: strict on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:35:51
I got mine today and they're awesome. Thank you, Ivan!
I really like the top surface being slightly narrower. Maybe I'm crazy, but it feels like a big difference. Like my fingers don't get snagged on the edges of keys as much as they did with stock Filco keys. The texture also matches the Filco case perfectly. When you look at them from an angle with slight light hitting them, they look like part of the case.
The only con is how tight they are on the stems. You have to put a lot of force to get it on all the way and get it level. Remember not to pull them straight up and off, but to wiggle them back and forth, or you might pull a stem off with the key. Be super careful with the space bar. I forgot to put an o-ring on mine and had to pull it off, and it felt like it was cemented on :eek:. The letter it came with said to maybe use some lube, but that would be a nightmare when it comes time to clean. Lube will attract and buildup the dust, hairs, etc that gets under the keyboard. I think you're better off just letting them wear in over time from pulling them and putting them back on.
This is the truth. I was amazed at how tightly these fit on my clear stems. Definitely recommend taking your time when removing these keys or you will almost definitely pop switches apart.
Post by: sean4star on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:03:47
Post by: ThomasBastiani on Thu, 07 May 2015, 10:15:32
I have some high-viscosity grease that was intended for my stabs. Should I use something more akin to oil than grease? Ivan's note mentions grease specifically so I'm assuming it's okay?I got mine today and they're awesome. Thank you, Ivan!
I really like the top surface being slightly narrower. Maybe I'm crazy, but it feels like a big difference. Like my fingers don't get snagged on the edges of keys as much as they did with stock Filco keys. The texture also matches the Filco case perfectly. When you look at them from an angle with slight light hitting them, they look like part of the case.
The only con is how tight they are on the stems. You have to put a lot of force to get it on all the way and get it level. Remember not to pull them straight up and off, but to wiggle them back and forth, or you might pull a stem off with the key. Be super careful with the space bar. I forgot to put an o-ring on mine and had to pull it off, and it felt like it was cemented on :eek:. The letter it came with said to maybe use some lube, but that would be a nightmare when it comes time to clean. Lube will attract and buildup the dust, hairs, etc that gets under the keyboard. I think you're better off just letting them wear in over time from pulling them and putting them back on.
This is the truth. I was amazed at how tightly these fit on my clear stems. Definitely recommend taking your time when removing these keys or you will almost definitely pop switches apart.
Post by: taylordcraig on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:37:13
Post by: PolaBurrr on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:59:39
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 07 May 2015, 14:09:34
Post by: PolaBurrr on Thu, 07 May 2015, 14:24:56
Post by: DarSee on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:02:47
They look and feel great.
Thanks Ivan!
Post by: Rewind on Thu, 07 May 2015, 16:53:51
Post by: lolkey on Thu, 07 May 2015, 16:54:24
I have some high-viscosity grease that was intended for my stabs. Should I use something more akin to oil than grease? Ivan's note mentions grease specifically so I'm assuming it's okay?I got mine today and they're awesome. Thank you, Ivan!
I really like the top surface being slightly narrower. Maybe I'm crazy, but it feels like a big difference. Like my fingers don't get snagged on the edges of keys as much as they did with stock Filco keys. The texture also matches the Filco case perfectly. When you look at them from an angle with slight light hitting them, they look like part of the case.
The only con is how tight they are on the stems. You have to put a lot of force to get it on all the way and get it level. Remember not to pull them straight up and off, but to wiggle them back and forth, or you might pull a stem off with the key. Be super careful with the space bar. I forgot to put an o-ring on mine and had to pull it off, and it felt like it was cemented on :eek:. The letter it came with said to maybe use some lube, but that would be a nightmare when it comes time to clean. Lube will attract and buildup the dust, hairs, etc that gets under the keyboard. I think you're better off just letting them wear in over time from pulling them and putting them back on.
This is the truth. I was amazed at how tightly these fit on my clear stems. Definitely recommend taking your time when removing these keys or you will almost definitely pop switches apart.
I wouldn't even bother, unless maybe you have clears, as I've read those are already tight on standard stems. I took one cap on/off a few times and it already feels easier to take off opposed to the first time. If anything, I would just do the space bar because it's hard to distribute the force evenly across such a long key when pulling. Or, what I did, was I took off both Alt keys and used my finger tips underneath opposite edges to wobble it back and forth while pulling up. Kind of like making your finger tips fish hooks. The key puller seemed too risky for such a long key.
If you're going to lube, I would follow this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=34332.0) and use one of those recommended. Stabilizer lube is generally pretty thick stuff, at least the one I've had. Keep in mind this stuff has the probability of running down inside the switch over time.
Post by: ctm on Thu, 07 May 2015, 19:48:02
Can someone comment on how scratch prone these are?I tried really hard on my Vortex PBT caps with my fingernails, but I can't see any scratch on the keycap.
I've found that PBT is easily scratched with a fingernail. Needless to say, if you're going to try scratching one, do it on a spare keycap, or an edge/side that's not visible.
Post by: Ludovician on Thu, 07 May 2015, 22:31:46
potato-ish pic, but loving these caps :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HSvVZ3j.jpg)
Is it just me or does your A key have the wrong profile cap on it?
Post by: taylordcraig on Fri, 08 May 2015, 04:26:09
potato-ish pic, but loving these caps :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HSvVZ3j.jpg)
Is it just me or does your A key have the wrong profile cap on it?
Looks like a scoop. Should be on F or J.
Post by: calavera on Fri, 08 May 2015, 11:09:59
Post by: Ludovician on Fri, 08 May 2015, 17:43:03
Post by: catbuster on Sat, 09 May 2015, 02:49:29
Post by: Lu_e on Sun, 10 May 2015, 12:23:10
Still wouldn't mind a set of non scoop home keys though, that came outta nowhere.
(http://i.imgur.com/w3ukyQX.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/lDZEzwh.jpg)
Post by: geniekid on Sun, 10 May 2015, 13:07:50
Flickr album (https://www.flickr.com/photos/129104496@N03/sets/72157652170495569)
Post by: GSimon on Sun, 10 May 2015, 14:22:22
Post by: lolkey on Sun, 10 May 2015, 15:07:21
Post by: tbc on Sun, 10 May 2015, 15:33:32
Post by: geniekid on Sun, 10 May 2015, 15:56:24
[attach=1]
6.25.
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7.
Post by: GSimon on Sun, 10 May 2015, 18:18:13
Potato pics of 6.25 and 7 unit spacebars
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6.25.
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7.
Thank you sir! Looks like I'll finally have a full Cherry keyset for my Leopold, other than the navy blue one I already have.
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 10 May 2015, 20:37:09
These look similar to stem setup on the gateron key caps spacebar.Potato pics of 6.25 and 7 unit spacebars
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6.25.
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7.
Thank you sir! Looks like I'll finally have a full Cherry keyset for my Leopold, other than the navy blue one I already have.
Can I use this spacebar on a fc660m?
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 10 May 2015, 23:09:43
Post by: keyit on Sun, 10 May 2015, 23:10:50
Was the short right shift indeed made? Neither of my blank sets have it. I counted them today before packing to re-ship.
my printed set had one
Post by: Lu_e on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:02:41
My blank set doesn't appear to have one either;
(http://imgur.com/KrqYzqx.jpg)
Post by: tbc on Mon, 11 May 2015, 21:11:25
this is a rather big deal for octagon peeps.
Post by: rainb1ood on Mon, 11 May 2015, 22:18:08
Post by: cooldiscretion on Mon, 11 May 2015, 23:26:37
Post by: lolkey on Tue, 12 May 2015, 00:18:59
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 12 May 2015, 12:08:23
Post by: catbuster on Tue, 12 May 2015, 12:16:03
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 12 May 2015, 12:28:16
Post by: catbuster on Tue, 12 May 2015, 12:31:45
Post by: Lu_e on Tue, 12 May 2015, 13:24:23
Yes, all the blank sets are missing the 1.75 shift key. Sorry about that. It is a 'freebie extra' as it was not originally going to be included in these sets at all. If you require this key for immediate delivery, please contact imsto and be prepared to pay a small shipping charge.
Wow.
Post by: Veteranos on Wed, 13 May 2015, 08:40:08
i'm loving these very very much! Thanks Ivan for making this happen! :)
(http://i.imgur.com/LjvL093.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MNK2GX5.jpg)
Post by: zippox on Wed, 13 May 2015, 09:11:26
Post by: cooldiscretion on Wed, 13 May 2015, 09:47:47
Potato pics of 6.25 and 7 unit spacebars
(Attachment Link)
6.25.
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7.
Is the 7u spacebar PBT?
Post by: zippox on Wed, 13 May 2015, 10:07:06
Is the 7u spacebar PBT?
To me the material feels and looks the same so I'd put my money on yes.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Wed, 13 May 2015, 10:10:37
Is the 7u spacebar PBT?
To me the material feels and looks the same so I'd put my money on yes.
Pretty cool. I was lucky enough to snatch a set up off IMSTO's website as he had a few in stock. They sold out very quick though.
I don't see a ton of 7u PBT spacebars being produced. In fact, the only that I'm aware of being made recently is from granite.
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Wed, 13 May 2015, 10:42:01
Vortex apparently acquired the mold too recently, Ivan's r4 PBT orders all have 1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1-1.5 PBT keys being included! One of the big reasons I joined in the first place, it's really cool to see them being more common now, I hope they don't suffer from warping much, as I think that was one of the biggest reasons manufacturers shy'd away from them.Is the 7u spacebar PBT?
To me the material feels and looks the same so I'd put my money on yes.
Pretty cool. I was lucky enough to snatch a set up off IMSTO's website as he had a few in stock. They sold out very quick though.
I don't see a ton of 7u PBT spacebars being produced. In fact, the only that I'm aware of being made recently is from granite.
Post by: cooldiscretion on Wed, 13 May 2015, 10:45:19
Vortex apparently acquired the mold too recently, Ivan's r4 PBT orders all have 1.5-1-7-1.5-1 PBT keys being included! One of the big reasons I joined in the first place, it's really cool to see them being more common now, I hope they don't suffer from warping much, as I think that was one of the biggest reasons manufacturers shy'd away from them.Is the 7u spacebar PBT?
To me the material feels and looks the same so I'd put my money on yes.
Pretty cool. I was lucky enough to snatch a set up off IMSTO's website as he had a few in stock. They sold out very quick though.
I don't see a ton of 7u PBT spacebars being produced. In fact, the only that I'm aware of being made recently is from granite.
I wasn't aware Vortex got the molds as well. That's good news for everyone.
Post by: ramnes on Wed, 13 May 2015, 12:39:17
Post by: Oobly on Wed, 13 May 2015, 13:15:49
I noticed something worth mentioning, the printed set spacebar is different from the blank sets. The blank set ones have a rolled off front edge and appear to be just a little better molded. Not an issue for me, just something I noticed.
The black on black dyesub is beautifully subtle, while definitely visible. Perfect balance of tones, IMHO. Good job and thank you for working so hard on the colour and sticking with this, Ivan!
Top quality caps! I'll get some pics once I've mounted them on a board.
Post by: lolkey on Wed, 13 May 2015, 18:51:35
Vortex apparently acquired the mold too recently, Ivan's r4 PBT orders all have 1.5-1-1.5-7-1.5-1-1.5 PBT keys being included! One of the big reasons I joined in the first place, it's really cool to see them being more common now, I hope they don't suffer from warping much, as I think that was one of the biggest reasons manufacturers shy'd away from them.Is the 7u spacebar PBT?
To me the material feels and looks the same so I'd put my money on yes.
Pretty cool. I was lucky enough to snatch a set up off IMSTO's website as he had a few in stock. They sold out very quick though.
I don't see a ton of 7u PBT spacebars being produced. In fact, the only that I'm aware of being made recently is from granite.
Here are some things I noticed after they honey moon phase with these caps:
These do have warping problems, but it's nothing extreme. Quite a few of my caps appear lop sided if you inspect them closely. You can see it very clear on the space bar edges, or the edge of the keyboard where the enter key is if you follow the edges up and down. You can see it above in the photo posted by Veteranos. Look at the up arrow on the close up shot. Another thing I noticed is the space bar has a very weird front lip, it's not squared away like the back side or the vortex sets. The spacebar is also very weird? I noticed when walking to my pc and the light hit it at a weird angle, it completely stands out and looks completely different material, maybe ABS? There were some pictures posted a while ago where everyone was worried about the spacebar looking weird and cheap, it looks exactly like that photo when seen at the perfect angle and lighting. And lastly, the top surface of the caps have a consistency problem. Some have a larger surface area, others have a thinner area despite being the same row. I think this is why I thought at first they were narrower caps, but some match my filco key width and others are narrower.
Post by: rainb1ood on Wed, 13 May 2015, 19:28:35
Post by: Ludovician on Thu, 14 May 2015, 00:39:27
Thanks.
Post by: calavera on Thu, 14 May 2015, 03:18:00
One last thing though, does this seem right to you? The 1.75 shift doesn't seem to be the right profile.
(http://i.imgur.com/16krtcg.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7JMkwy2.jpg)
Post by: Ludovician on Thu, 14 May 2015, 03:42:17
Post by: calavera on Thu, 14 May 2015, 04:14:48
Oh well, I have nothing to put on there so might as well keep it like this.
Post by: Latin00032 on Thu, 14 May 2015, 05:06:29
Hmm.. I think you're right. For some reason I assumed the set included a 1.75 right shift. It's been so long so I might have confused it with a different group buy or something hahaSo, some of the blank sets don't have the 1.75 shift, right?
Oh well, I have nothing to put on there so might as well keep it like this.
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 14 May 2015, 05:07:30
Hmm.. I think you're right. For some reason I assumed the set included a 1.75 right shift. It's been so long so I might have confused it with a different group buy or something hahaSo, some of the blank sets don't have the 1.75 shift, right?
Oh well, I have nothing to put on there so might as well keep it like this.
Yes, all the blank sets are missing the 1.75 shift key. Sorry about that. It is a 'freebie extra' as it was not originally going to be included in these sets at all. If you require this key for immediate delivery, please contact imsto and be prepared to pay a small shipping charge.
Post by: calavera on Thu, 14 May 2015, 06:17:07
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 14 May 2015, 09:15:58
Post by: bueller on Thu, 14 May 2015, 09:31:24
Post by: bazh on Thu, 14 May 2015, 09:43:58
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 14 May 2015, 11:06:58
1x Aurebesh:Darkside
1x blank
If you want to pick up one of these extras please send a PM with your paypal email and shipping address and I will get you an invoice.
Thanks
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 14 May 2015, 13:29:03
AVAILABLE EXTRAS:
1x Aurebesh:Darkside
1x blank
If you want to pick up one of these extras please send a PM with your paypal email and shipping address and I will get you an invoice.
Thanks
PM sent re Aurebesh
Post by: spearman on Thu, 14 May 2015, 16:19:08
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Post by: BeardedAx on Thu, 14 May 2015, 20:37:56
I bought my first mechanical keyboard just as this group buy was launching, CM QFR with browns. I was pumped. Unfortunately the font was atrocious, and the printing on the keys was so dramatic that I would even lose my place thinking some letters were the home key bumps. I knew I had to do something. Couldn't quite commit to blanks, but thought black on black would be awesome. Of course I couldn't find them anywhere. Found the old vortex set on some website but they were sold out. Then I stumbled upon this GB and was saddened to see they weren't taking any more orders. Luckily someone was willing to sell their set and the Great Wait began.
The change from the stock QFR keys to these beauties is so dramatic, in every way. It looks like a completely new keyboard. It FEELS like a completely new keyboard. It almost looked toy-ish with the stock caps, but know I feel like I belong. Thank you for helping me feel like I belong Ivan! It was well worth the wait. Granted they're my first set of key caps, on my first board, so I don't have a lot to judge them against, but they're awesome.
All excitement aside, I got two F3 keys and no F2. Not a huge deal, but if anyone has the opposite problem we should work something out!
Post by: stoic-lemon on Thu, 14 May 2015, 23:08:00
Post by: calavera on Thu, 14 May 2015, 23:54:13
No... what happened was the 1.75 shifts were forgotten on the blank sets, they are all sitting in a box at imsto's.
So how would one go about getting one? Contact imsto directly? I only have to pay shipping then for it since it should have been included in the set?
Post by: KnivesM on Fri, 15 May 2015, 01:56:13
No... what happened was the 1.75 shifts were forgotten on the blank sets, they are all sitting in a box at imsto's.
So how would one go about getting one? Contact imsto directly? I only have to pay shipping then for it since it should have been included in the set?
Yes, all the blank sets are missing the 1.75 shift key. Sorry about that. It is a 'freebie extra' as it was not originally going to be included in these sets at all. If you require this key for immediate delivery, please contact imsto and be prepared to pay a small shipping charge.
Post by: Ound on Fri, 15 May 2015, 12:33:49
Post by: spartan7 on Fri, 15 May 2015, 13:50:32
They look amazing!!!
Post by: Latin00032 on Fri, 15 May 2015, 18:04:26
(http://i.imgur.com/97VBXIy.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/c2Flh5U.jpg)
Ivan, should I pm you or imsto about the missing "2@" key from the regular printed set?
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 May 2015, 19:17:06
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
Post by: dante on Fri, 15 May 2015, 19:33:49
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
It's too bad you couldn't delay some of the complainers on here :D
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Fri, 15 May 2015, 19:35:03
Post by: tbc on Fri, 15 May 2015, 21:21:10
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
It's too bad you couldn't delay some of the complainers on here :D
you mean the one complainer?
Post by: Danboard on Fri, 15 May 2015, 21:49:11
Post by: FreeCopy on Fri, 15 May 2015, 23:47:22
I must not have changed my address again because they ended up at my parents for who knows how long. Noones been home there for almost a week.
Thank you, Ivan!
I need another key board.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sat, 16 May 2015, 00:33:49
Welp, thats unfortunate... Any idea of when you'll get more of the sets Ivan?
Hopefully it won't be too long.
Post by: user 18 on Sat, 16 May 2015, 01:10:18
They're really tight on the switches though, as many have mentioned. Hopefully I don't break anything if I ever end up taking them off this board.
Post by: Yslen on Sat, 16 May 2015, 01:44:22
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>Does that mean I can change my shipping address? I can't remember what you have on file for me at the moment :/
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
Post by: calavera on Sat, 16 May 2015, 02:18:23
Anyway, are there any plans to have the box shipped to Ivan at some point?
Post by: Sevas on Sat, 16 May 2015, 02:41:54
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
Fun Fact: This is my second post on GeekHack. I know I haven't given back to the community, but I am dyslexic and it is hard for me to write. The irony is that you people in GeekHack and DeskThority made me love mechanical keyboards and I'm unable to write a sentence without checking google for spelling in every single word I write! :p You can see in my signature the keyboards I have, nothing special or exotic. I don't know how to offer something back to the community with these ultra common keyboards, everybody have them! I also didn't post anything on the thread and waited patiently because I didn't want to pollute it with posts like "when are they gonna be ready...".
I hope I can get them before Greece bankrupts!
Fun Fact 2: It took me 15 minutes to write that down! :p
Post by: stoic-lemon on Sat, 16 May 2015, 02:52:18
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sat, 16 May 2015, 07:01:24
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
Never got mine, should I just assume you didn't ship me a set and contact Visa?
Post by: wlhlm on Sat, 16 May 2015, 07:05:14
You can PM Ivan for tracking I believe.ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
Never got mine, should I just assume you didn't ship me a set and contact Visa?
Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 16 May 2015, 07:26:49
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
Never got mine, should I just assume you didn't ship me a set and contact Visa?
Shipping is not instantaneous. Teleportation of your goods is prohobitively expensive, so the cheaper method of using carrier pigeons is used instead.
Post by: Stabilized on Sat, 16 May 2015, 08:43:08
Oh what a shame about the 1.75x keys, that was the main reason I decided to sell my set as all my keyboards use a Pure layout. Might have to see if someone wants to sell a set!
Wait (and pardon me if I am being stupid), I thought that Vortex doesn't do 1.75u shifts? I didn't see anything mentioned in the first post, and I would have been quite interested in a set if I had known!
Does this mean that there might be the chance of a 1.75u shift included with the PBT beige/white sets in the future?
Post by: dante on Sat, 16 May 2015, 08:57:40
ALL ORDERS ARE SHIPPED>>>
EXCEPT these unlucky 5 people:
danboard
Mooby
SeeThruHead
Sevas
Yslen
I ended up with shortage of US black sets so sorry your orders will be delayed a little.
It's too bad you couldn't delay some of the complainers on here :D
you mean the one complainer?
Please don't make me traverse through 81 pages.
Post by: TheSoulhunter on Sat, 16 May 2015, 09:12:59
Post by: zippox on Sat, 16 May 2015, 10:51:12
Never got mine
This made me happy.
Post by: Sergeant_Shart on Sat, 16 May 2015, 13:12:52
Never got mine
This made me happy.
Ah sorry man, depot had them labelled "ebay" with a couple other packages, been there for 5 days now.
Post by: Lu_e on Sat, 16 May 2015, 14:02:31
Oh what a shame about the 1.75x keys, that was the main reason I decided to sell my set as all my keyboards use a Pure layout. Might have to see if someone wants to sell a set!
Wait (and pardon me if I am being stupid), I thought that Vortex doesn't do 1.75u shifts? I didn't see anything mentioned in the first post, and I would have been quite interested in a set if I had known!
Does this mean that there might be the chance of a 1.75u shift included with the PBT beige/white sets in the future?
These weren't made by Vortex
Post by: Stabilized on Sun, 17 May 2015, 04:02:25
Oh what a shame about the 1.75x keys, that was the main reason I decided to sell my set as all my keyboards use a Pure layout. Might have to see if someone wants to sell a set!
Wait (and pardon me if I am being stupid), I thought that Vortex doesn't do 1.75u shifts? I didn't see anything mentioned in the first post, and I would have been quite interested in a set if I had known!
Does this mean that there might be the chance of a 1.75u shift included with the PBT beige/white sets in the future?
These weren't made by Vortex
Ok my mistake, wasn't sure and wasn't really prepared to read through 81 pages.
Now I do look back though I can see someone comparing them against Vortex Cherry profile caps.
Look really good though, I would definitely be up for a another GB down the line.
Post by: Barracuda on Sun, 17 May 2015, 06:01:57
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 17 May 2015, 07:41:35
I just got my set, looks AWESOME, although I have some miscoloring on some keys, does any1 else also have this problem?Pics?
Post by: KatzenKinder on Sun, 17 May 2015, 12:10:00
p.s. I'm still looking for a ANSI Cherry BoB set if any of you guys don't want yours for some reason :v
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Sun, 17 May 2015, 14:47:45
Can I use this spacebar on a fc660m?
EDIT: realized I'm working on a FC200RT - I also have a FC660C (Topre) which is why I confused them. Not sure if the FC200RT and FC660M have the same spacebar, but I don't think they do as my FC660C spacebar is a little shorter than my FC200RT.
Kinda sorta, but not really. I'm having problems getting it to work on mine. There are stems that line up with the FC200RT spacebar, but the stems that are directly next to them on the space bar are interfering with the posts that surround the stabilizer mounts. I pressed mine on pretty hard, as I had to with all of these caps due to how tight they are, and you can actually see if you look closely in the picture where the plastic is damaged on the bar and causes it to bind up. I am thinking I will have to take a dremel tool or knife to the stems on the spacebar to cut out a slit in the plastic for the posts on the board (that surround the stabilizers) to fit into, which will likely make those stems unusable if i need them in the future which is a bummer.
In this image, I put green arrows where the stems line up for this board, and the red arrows are showing the "bad contact" that makes it not fit. You can see red arrows pointing to the corners of the stabilizer posts, and the stems where it makes contact (where I need to make cutouts).
Also, the backspace key fits, but it's really mushy and squeaky. I can't tell where it's rubbing causing the squeak, but I'm going to try working on it more later.
The caps are wonderful, although I wish they weren't so tight, and I didn't read the "instructions" about using grease before I installed them, because, well, I've never needed instructions for keycaps before :'( I wish I had, as I'm concerned about breaking switches when I remove these to put on my Triumph Adler set when it comes... Maybe I'll just need to buy another board for the TA caps :thumb:
(http://i.imgur.com/8Ufh1S5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Eie4ZtH.jpg)
Post by: Psybin on Sun, 17 May 2015, 15:10:37
Well worth the wait, beautiful gear, typing on it now =)
Thanks Ivan!
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 17 May 2015, 15:12:27
I actually thought that might be a problem. I saw the new stabilizer holes then wondered how the pcb mount stabs would clear it.
Can I use this spacebar on a fc660m?
EDIT: realized I'm working on a FC200RT - I also have a FC660C (Topre) which is why I confused them. Not sure if the FC200RT and FC660M have the same spacebar, but I don't think they do as my FC660C spacebar is a little shorter than my FC200RT.
Kinda sorta, but not really. I'm having problems getting it to work on mine. There are stems that line up with the FC200RT spacebar, but the stems that are directly next to them on the space bar are interfering with the posts that surround the stabilizer mounts. I pressed mine on pretty hard, as I had to with all of these caps due to how tight they are, and you can actually see if you look closely in the picture where the plastic is damaged on the bar and causes it to bind up. I am thinking I will have to take a dremel tool or knife to the stems on the spacebar to cut out a slit in the plastic for the posts on the board (that surround the stabilizers) to fit into, which will likely make those stems unusable if i need them in the future which is a bummer.
In this image, I put green arrows where the stems line up for this board, and the red arrows are showing the "bad contact" that makes it not fit. You can see red arrows pointing to the corners of the stabilizer posts, and the stems where it makes contact (where I need to make cutouts).
Also, the backspace key fits, but it's really mushy and squeaky. I can't tell where it's rubbing causing the squeak, but I'm going to try working on it more later.
The caps are wonderful, although I wish they weren't so tight, and I didn't read the "instructions" about using grease before I installed them, because, well, I've never needed instructions for keycaps before :'( I wish I had, as I'm concerned about breaking switches when I remove these to put on my Triumph Adler set when it comes... Maybe I'll just need to buy another board for the TA caps :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8Ufh1S5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Eie4ZtH.jpg)
Cutting those pieces off the sides of the stabs might not ruin the feeling of the spacebar if done well.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 17 May 2015, 15:30:36
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Sun, 17 May 2015, 15:40:35
Exactly... clip off the corner guides on the stabs. They don't matter at all really. It will be easier in the end than filing out the additional posts on the keycap.
Thanks Ivan! I'll take that approach. Any ideas what might be rubbing on the backspace key? I need to spend some more time looking at that tonight
Post by: dante on Sun, 17 May 2015, 16:25:34
Exactly... clip off the corner guides on the stabs. They don't matter at all really. It will be easier in the end than filing out the additional posts on the keycap.
Exactly... clip off the corner guides on the stabs. They don't matter at all really. It will be easier in the end than filing out the additional posts on the keycap.
Thanks Ivan! I'll take that approach. Any ideas what might be rubbing on the backspace key? I need to spend some more time looking at that tonight
A true GeekHack solution would have involved buying another keyboard. :)
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Sun, 17 May 2015, 16:32:38
Exactly... clip off the corner guides on the stabs. They don't matter at all really. It will be easier in the end than filing out the additional posts on the keycap.Exactly... clip off the corner guides on the stabs. They don't matter at all really. It will be easier in the end than filing out the additional posts on the keycap.
Thanks Ivan! I'll take that approach. Any ideas what might be rubbing on the backspace key? I need to spend some more time looking at that tonight
A true GeekHack solution would have involved buying another keyboard. :)
Look at the last sentence of my original question post - that's my solution for using these caps and my incoming GMK triumph Adler set :thumb:
Post by: hipsterman on Sun, 17 May 2015, 19:22:00
Post by: taylordcraig on Sun, 17 May 2015, 19:41:49
Can I use this spacebar on a fc660m?
EDIT: realized I'm working on a FC200RT - I also have a FC660C (Topre) which is why I confused them. Not sure if the FC200RT and FC660M have the same spacebar, but I don't think they do as my FC660C spacebar is a little shorter than my FC200RT.
Kinda sorta, but not really. I'm having problems getting it to work on mine. There are stems that line up with the FC200RT spacebar, but the stems that are directly next to them on the space bar are interfering with the posts that surround the stabilizer mounts. I pressed mine on pretty hard, as I had to with all of these caps due to how tight they are, and you can actually see if you look closely in the picture where the plastic is damaged on the bar and causes it to bind up. I am thinking I will have to take a dremel tool or knife to the stems on the spacebar to cut out a slit in the plastic for the posts on the board (that surround the stabilizers) to fit into, which will likely make those stems unusable if i need them in the future which is a bummer.
In this image, I put green arrows where the stems line up for this board, and the red arrows are showing the "bad contact" that makes it not fit. You can see red arrows pointing to the corners of the stabilizer posts, and the stems where it makes contact (where I need to make cutouts).
Also, the backspace key fits, but it's really mushy and squeaky. I can't tell where it's rubbing causing the squeak, but I'm going to try working on it more later.
The caps are wonderful, although I wish they weren't so tight, and I didn't read the "instructions" about using grease before I installed them, because, well, I've never needed instructions for keycaps before :'( I wish I had, as I'm concerned about breaking switches when I remove these to put on my Triumph Adler set when it comes... Maybe I'll just need to buy another board for the TA caps :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8Ufh1S5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Eie4ZtH.jpg)
I believe the pieces on the stabilizer aren't needed and can be removed. Else you can change the stabilizer type.
Post by: HalfSharkAlligator on Sun, 17 May 2015, 23:19:13
These keys are wonderful and really improved the feel and sound of the whole board, improved my accuracy as well. I like the profile. I was using DSA Dolch on it before and while it looked fantastic, I think they were making the board feel a little plastic-y.
Thanks for executing a great group buy, Ivan!
Post by: taylordcraig on Mon, 18 May 2015, 00:28:23
I went ahead and clipped off the stabilizer surrounds, and that did the trick. Also took the opportunity to use mech lube on the surrounding keys. For the backspace key, I did the same thing - removed all the stab surrounds and that helped a lot. It's still not perfect, it rubs a bit and feels scratchy, but at least it's not sticking any more and is not squeaking.
These keys are wonderful and really improved the feel and sound of the whole board, improved my accuracy as well. I like the profile. I was using DSA Dolch on it before and while it looked fantastic, I think they were making the board feel a little plastic-y.
Thanks for executing a great group buy, Ivan!
Glad you got it sorted! Sorry I gave the same suggestion a day late. :rolleyes:
Post by: V1ral on Mon, 18 May 2015, 15:29:40
Started throwing the Aurebesh set on my Nordic Ducky Mini before I remembered there is no ISO enter or short left shift in that set. Now I've got to figure out what to substitute with. .____.
[attachimg=1]
Oh, also, something I noticed only after I received my sets and was trying to place all the Aurebesh keys in the correct positions. It seems like the symbols for the parentheses ( '(' and ')' ) are reversed? At the according to most other charts (http://www.echostation.com/graphics/features/aurebesh/Aurebesh_3_big.jpg) I've found. Was this intentional? I couldn't quite find any reference to it in the thread.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 18 May 2015, 16:14:11
Post by: rainb1ood on Mon, 18 May 2015, 16:17:56
Trying to get the blank 1.75 R shift
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 18 May 2015, 16:27:38
Post by: Danboard on Mon, 18 May 2015, 17:58:06
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 18 May 2015, 18:02:06
Post by: V1ral on Mon, 18 May 2015, 20:42:37
Oh... I think because there is no such thing as [ ] in the font... I probably meant to flip it for that and mixed it up. I guess only the hardest hardcore fans would even notice such a thing.
No worries, like I said, I never noticed either until I started looking it up.
Post by: phantomz on Tue, 19 May 2015, 20:50:04
Post by: jamster on Wed, 20 May 2015, 03:54:15
Oh well, PM'd Ivan so hopefully this gets sorted out soon.
Post by: Barracuda on Wed, 20 May 2015, 09:30:10
I just got my set, looks AWESOME, although I have some miscoloring on some keys, does any1 else also have this problem?Pics?
On the top left corner of the 'Q' keycap, it is also seen on the side. I already tried to wash it off, didn't work.
I sent an email to the email address that was sent with the package. The rest of the keycaps look perfectly awesome though
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 20 May 2015, 13:11:23
Thanks Ivan for the buy and jamster for letting me take over one blank set. :thumb:
Post by: TDub on Wed, 20 May 2015, 16:29:48
The caps arrived in Germany today.
Thanks Ivan for the buy and jamster for letting me take over one blank set. :thumb:
Ooooh, that means mine are probably coming up, too :D
Post by: naasfu on Wed, 20 May 2015, 20:43:39
(http://i.imgur.com/FgPHPuS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XMhIjDO.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/cpQ1gBR.jpg)
Post by: Johniib on Wed, 20 May 2015, 21:28:11
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 20 May 2015, 23:24:16
Post by: SL89 on Wed, 20 May 2015, 23:34:29
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 20 May 2015, 23:45:09
If someone ever wanted to part ways with an Aurebesh set. Keep me in mind ;D
There's another round for this one going on now, which includes Aurebesh.
Post by: bjonbjonbjon on Thu, 21 May 2015, 05:32:52
Post by: SL89 on Thu, 21 May 2015, 07:06:51
If someone ever wanted to part ways with an Aurebesh set. Keep me in mind ;D
There's another round for this one going on now, which includes Aurebesh.
Oh I know but the wait time would be immense. I will be in the Dark Wave GB for sure regardless.
Post by: strict on Thu, 21 May 2015, 07:48:23
Oh I know but the wait time would be immense. I will be in the Dark Wave GB for sure regardless.
Ivan is using a different manufacturer for the new round (Gateron) and he said he expects the turnaround time to be much shorter.
Post by: SL89 on Thu, 21 May 2015, 07:49:45
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 May 2015, 14:17:08
I have AVAILABLE:
3x sets of blanks
Post by: KnivesM on Thu, 21 May 2015, 16:37:43
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 May 2015, 16:52:03
Post by: gameaholic on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:13:58
Oh... I think because there is no such thing as [ ] in the font... I probably meant to flip it for that and mixed it up. I guess only the hardest hardcore fans would even notice such a thing.Because Star Wars Fans aren't known for being hardcore. ;) I almost wish I didn't know this. Will this be fixed on the second round? I may be in for a second set if so.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:31:01
Post by: SL89 on Thu, 21 May 2015, 22:08:56
Post by: janvkn on Fri, 22 May 2015, 10:22:11
Luckily, IMSTO sold a few spare sets and I was able to snatch one up. It arrived today:
(http://i.imgur.com/1znZrym.jpg)
Looks and feels AWESOME.
Post by: Lu_e on Fri, 22 May 2015, 11:28:37
But thats all they said, no instructions, no PP invoice... I replied to that email, which was a different chinese mail address (ie. 1234@qq.com), as well as forwarded it to sales@imsto.cn telling them to invoice me or give an email to pay shipping cost.
Been over a week
Post by: jujubii on Fri, 22 May 2015, 16:21:17
Has anyone gotten their short shift? imsto was quick to reply to my first email saying "yes may send it with onkybthe shipping cost."
But thats all they said, no instructions, no PP invoice... I replied to that email, which was a different chinese mail address (ie. 1234@qq.com), as well as forwarded it to sales@imsto.cn telling them to invoice me or give an email to pay shipping cost.
Been over a week
gnarly, this is the exact same interaction i had with IMSTO. he was extremely fast in responding via his qq email; i fwded my request to sales@imsto.cn (per his direction) and am currently awaiting an invoice too. this just happened over the course of back-to-back emails in a span of 20 minutes last night
my request was a reproduction of the 4 6 9 R F6 Home and End keys whose legends were noticeably lighter than the rest. the set is beautiful otherwise
Post by: Vinnnie on Sun, 24 May 2015, 01:32:20
Post by: Latin00032 on Sun, 24 May 2015, 12:51:04
Me too.Has anyone gotten their short shift? imsto was quick to reply to my first email saying "yes may send it with onkybthe shipping cost."
But thats all they said, no instructions, no PP invoice... I replied to that email, which was a different chinese mail address (ie. 1234@qq.com), as well as forwarded it to sales@imsto.cn telling them to invoice me or give an email to pay shipping cost.
Been over a week
gnarly, this is the exact same interaction i had with IMSTO. he was extremely fast in responding via his qq email; i fwded my request to sales@imsto.cn (per his direction) and am currently awaiting an invoice too. this just happened over the course of back-to-back emails in a span of 20 minutes last night
my request was a reproduction of the 4 6 9 R F6 Home and End keys whose legends were noticeably lighter than the rest. the set is beautiful otherwise
The first interaction went well. I emailed him for an invoice. Then pm'ed him on gh.
Still no response on gh or my email.
This was about a week ago.
Any know whats going on?
Im mostly just trying to get a missing "2@" key from my regular printed set plus an extra 6u spacebar.
Post by: calavera on Mon, 25 May 2015, 05:48:57
Haven't heard from him since so no clue when he'll actually ship them out.
Post by: rainb1ood on Mon, 25 May 2015, 12:19:34
Post by: calavera on Mon, 25 May 2015, 22:36:50
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 26 May 2015, 06:00:17
Just got a PM from imsto. Says it will take about a month to sort this out.I got a similar pm.
He noted my missing key. I bought two keysets so at least I can use one of them.
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 26 May 2015, 17:50:09
Post by: JaccoW on Wed, 27 May 2015, 09:25:28
(http://i.imgur.com/zAT1jJml.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zAT1jJm)
(http://i.imgur.com/v4bWo9Bl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/v4bWo9B)
(http://i.imgur.com/PU9gdMtl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/PU9gdMt)
(http://i.imgur.com/SMEG25tl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/SMEG25t)
Shame the spacebar doesn't fit on a Leopold FC660M. The pegs are just slightly off. :(
Post by: FreeChemicals on Wed, 27 May 2015, 13:44:02
Post by: catbuster on Wed, 27 May 2015, 15:49:27
Poker2
MX red switches
Cherry profile thick PBT Pitch BLACK edition
Soft O-rings (40A) red
Depth Black Click Clack
(http://cdn.overclock.net/c/c5/900x900px-LL-c5b1152d_DSC00004.jpeg)
(http://cdn.overclock.net/8/8d/900x900px-LL-8d364c04_DSC00005.jpeg)
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:00:35
my caps finally passed customs:
Poker2
MX red switches
Cherry profile thick PBT Pitch BLACK edition
Soft O-rings (40A) red
Depth Black Click ClackShow Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/c/c5/900x900px-LL-c5b1152d_DSC00004.jpeg)Show Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/8/8d/900x900px-LL-8d364c04_DSC00005.jpeg)
Very clean looking board. I love it!
Post by: lakiozoon on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:02:18
my caps finally passed customs:
Poker2
MX red switches
Cherry profile thick PBT Pitch BLACK edition
Soft O-rings (40A) red
Depth Black Click ClackShow Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/c/c5/900x900px-LL-c5b1152d_DSC00004.jpeg)Show Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/8/8d/900x900px-LL-8d364c04_DSC00005.jpeg)
Yeah, nice looking board!
I thought I'll regret going for blanks, but hell no, they look superb on my black unbranded QFR. Love the profile too, a slight but noticeable change from OEM.
Post by: FreeChemicals on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:58:54
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
(http://i.imgur.com/VJOWI2jl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VJOWI2j)
Post by: user 18 on Wed, 27 May 2015, 20:26:25
I've also received a blank set (from another GH-er), and have most of it figured out. Except the arrow keys. I think the Up arrow uses D profile (QWERTY row), and the other 3 B (ZXCVB row) (source http://deskthority.net/wiki/Keyboard_profile#Numbering), is this correct?
The bottom two rows are the same profile. All four arrow keys should be ZXCVB row profile.
Post by: wilflare on Thu, 28 May 2015, 22:42:14
any idea how to fix that
Post by: yearn4 on Fri, 29 May 2015, 07:33:25
Post by: TBone on Fri, 29 May 2015, 08:28:31
The 7u spacebar won't fit without having to modify the stems either. I've measured my OG Desko spacebar to compare: 117.3 vs 118mm. This is quite a big difference, and the stabilizers are turned inwards under heavy stress after just pressing it down firmly. I've tried to cut out the sides of the stabilizer mounts, to no avail.
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
(http://i.imgur.com/VJOWI2jl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VJOWI2j)
Do you have any other MX sets to measure? Is 0.7mm really enough to throw it off? I suppose this is why they don't often make 7u spacebars with PBT.
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 May 2015, 13:08:34
The 7u spacebar won't fit without having to modify the stems either. I've measured my OG Desko spacebar to compare: 117.3 vs 118mm. This is quite a big difference, and the stabilizers are turned inwards under heavy stress after just pressing it down firmly. I've tried to cut out the sides of the stabilizer mounts, to no avail.
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
(http://i.imgur.com/VJOWI2jl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VJOWI2j)
Has anyone else had this problem with their 7u spacebars?
Post by: HPE1000 on Fri, 29 May 2015, 13:21:01
Yeah. Checked and my 7u spacebars dont work. They squeeze the cherry stabs together so hard that pressing down on the spacebar just causes it to stop half way down and stick there.The 7u spacebar won't fit without having to modify the stems either. I've measured my OG Desko spacebar to compare: 117.3 vs 118mm. This is quite a big difference, and the stabilizers are turned inwards under heavy stress after just pressing it down firmly. I've tried to cut out the sides of the stabilizer mounts, to no avail.
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
(http://i.imgur.com/VJOWI2jl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VJOWI2j)
Has anyone else had this problem with their 7u spacebars?
Post by: TBone on Fri, 29 May 2015, 13:29:08
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 May 2015, 13:52:15
Ivan, can this be rectified in the next round? I don't want to post there, but I feel like they should know if there is an issue with the 7u spacebars.
Ah man :(
I hope it can be rectified.
Post by: tbc on Fri, 29 May 2015, 14:02:01
Post by: FreeChemicals on Fri, 29 May 2015, 15:56:49
The 7u spacebar won't fit without having to modify the stems either. I've measured my OG Desko spacebar to compare: 117.3 vs 118mm. This is quite a big difference, and the stabilizers are turned inwards under heavy stress after just pressing it down firmly. I've tried to cut out the sides of the stabilizer mounts, to no avail.
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
(http://i.imgur.com/VJOWI2jl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VJOWI2j)
Do you have any other MX sets to measure? Is 0.7mm really enough to throw it off? I suppose this is why they don't often make 7u spacebars with PBT.
No, sorry. Just this Desko spacebar.
Yeah. Checked and my 7u spacebars dont work. They squeeze the cherry stabs together so hard that pressing down on the spacebar just causes it to stop half way down and stick there.The 7u spacebar won't fit without having to modify the stems either. I've measured my OG Desko spacebar to compare: 117.3 vs 118mm. This is quite a big difference, and the stabilizers are turned inwards under heavy stress after just pressing it down firmly. I've tried to cut out the sides of the stabilizer mounts, to no avail.
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
(http://i.imgur.com/VJOWI2jl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VJOWI2j)
Has anyone else had this problem with their 7u spacebars?
Like this:
Please ignore the loose stabs, these are the mutilated pair I've used. Its obviously the same with normal/default stabs.
this is not a problen with costar right?
This shouldn't affect Costar since the plastic inserts aren't directly attached to the stabilizer mount, just the wire.
Post by: user 18 on Fri, 29 May 2015, 15:58:01
this is not a problen with costar right?
I would assume not, as costar stabilizers have a little bit looser tolerances, but you would need to try it out to be sure. I don't have any MX boards that use a 7U spacebar, so I can't test myself.
Post by: CommonCurt on Fri, 29 May 2015, 21:36:58
Yeah. Checked and my 7u spacebars dont work. They squeeze the cherry stabs together so hard that pressing down on the spacebar just causes it to stop half way down and stick there.The 7u spacebar won't fit without having to modify the stems either. I've measured my OG Desko spacebar to compare: 117.3 vs 118mm. This is quite a big difference, and the stabilizers are turned inwards under heavy stress after just pressing it down firmly. I've tried to cut out the sides of the stabilizer mounts, to no avail.
Unfortunately, I don't have any epoxy either..
(http://i.imgur.com/VJOWI2jl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VJOWI2j)
Has anyone else had this problem with their 7u spacebars?
Ivan,
Please...... see if you can get this sorted out.
Post by: bazh on Sun, 31 May 2015, 03:48:32
//Pic of the set, just received some days ago
(http://i.imgur.com/cJQ0neu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WpLMF8x.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/i6ZhlrS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bLhSwGC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/n6rLCk4.jpg)
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 31 May 2015, 10:00:38
Post by: Flyersfan1 on Sun, 31 May 2015, 10:22:22
Post by: CG on Sun, 31 May 2015, 10:27:58
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Sun, 31 May 2015, 11:19:13
Post by: wlhlm on Sun, 31 May 2015, 11:35:38
Ivan spacebar: 117mm
Cherry spacebar: 118mm
Post by: Yslen on Tue, 02 June 2015, 07:12:41
Post by: GSimon on Tue, 02 June 2015, 09:46:38
Any update on the few orders that haven't been shipped yet? Just curious not concerned :)
Hopefully before PBT Dark second wave ships, otherwise I paid 10$ more to wait longer and for less keycaps. Am a bit salty about IMSTO selling extra sets when the GB sets weren't fulfilled also.
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 02 June 2015, 10:40:09
Post by: Yslen on Tue, 02 June 2015, 10:40:57
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 02 June 2015, 12:09:16
Show Image
Show Image
Show Image
Nom nom
(http://i.imgur.com/zAT1jJml.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zAT1jJm)
(http://i.imgur.com/v4bWo9Bl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/v4bWo9B)
(http://i.imgur.com/PU9gdMtl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/PU9gdMt)
(http://i.imgur.com/SMEG25tl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/SMEG25t)
Shame the spacebar doesn't fit on a Leopold FC660M. The pegs are just slightly off. :(
I thought it was confirmed that the spacebar works with the fc660m.
What's the final word?
Post by: CommonCurt on Tue, 02 June 2015, 13:55:57
I thought it was confirmed that the spacebar works with the fc660m.Show ImageShow ImageShow ImageNom nom
(http://i.imgur.com/zAT1jJml.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zAT1jJm)
(http://i.imgur.com/v4bWo9Bl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/v4bWo9B)
(http://i.imgur.com/PU9gdMtl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/PU9gdMt)
(http://i.imgur.com/SMEG25tl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/SMEG25t)
Shame the spacebar doesn't fit on a Leopold FC660M. The pegs are just slightly off. :(
What's the final word?
I think I read only the newer Korean made fc660m's have the normal spacebar placement.
Post by: Latin00032 on Tue, 02 June 2015, 20:03:06
I thought it was confirmed that the spacebar works with the fc660m.Show ImageShow ImageShow ImageNom nom
(http://i.imgur.com/zAT1jJml.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zAT1jJm)
(http://i.imgur.com/v4bWo9Bl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/v4bWo9B)
(http://i.imgur.com/PU9gdMtl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/PU9gdMt)
(http://i.imgur.com/SMEG25tl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/SMEG25t)
Shame the spacebar doesn't fit on a Leopold FC660M. The pegs are just slightly off. :(
What's the final word?
I think I read only the newer Korean made fc660m's have the normal spacebar placement.
Interesting.
Where can I get one of them?
Post by: cinnamoncider on Tue, 02 June 2015, 21:36:46
Post by: Mooby on Wed, 03 June 2015, 05:14:39
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Wed, 03 June 2015, 11:03:33
Post by: Mooby on Wed, 03 June 2015, 11:43:31
If you need to update your shipping destination, please send to me in PM.
That's kind of the problem here. I'd need to know roughly when the caps would arrive to tell you where to send them. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Edit: Maybe the easiest way is to sell the set to someone who missed the gb. how would that be handled? (It's a black on black set by the way. I paid 94,64$ for it if someone's interested)
Post by: bazh on Thu, 04 June 2015, 03:38:46
(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Post by: keyit on Thu, 04 June 2015, 03:45:52
Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
i spy something uʍopǝpısdn
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 04 June 2015, 08:40:07
!1!1!Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.i spy something uʍopǝpısdnShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Incidentally, is that a carbon fibre plate?!?
Post by: bazh on Thu, 04 June 2015, 09:51:25
!1!1!Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.i spy something uʍopǝpısdnShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Incidentally, is that a carbon fibre plate?!?
best kind of plate 8)
Post by: HPE1000 on Thu, 04 June 2015, 10:31:25
Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.What board is that? It looks awesome :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Post by: JaccoW on Thu, 04 June 2015, 11:22:30
Heavy Jellybest kind of plate 8)!1!1!Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.i spy something uʍopǝpısdnShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Incidentally, is that a carbon fibre plate?!?
*flips over Orion*
*Breaks screen*
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 04 June 2015, 11:24:57
Don't be jealous. You have such a nice keyboard! :thumb:Heavy Jellybest kind of plate 8)!1!1!Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.i spy something uʍopǝpısdnShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Incidentally, is that a carbon fibre plate?!?
*flips over Orion*
*Breaks screen*
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 04 June 2015, 12:13:50
What board is this?!1!1!Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.i spy something uʍopǝpısdnShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Incidentally, is that a carbon fibre plate?!?
best kind of plate 8)
Post by: bazh on Thu, 04 June 2015, 13:08:50
What board is this?!1!1!Turns out the spacebar seems to happen to some people, mine works flawlessly on standard cherry stab.i spy something uʍopǝpısdnShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/iLgqh4s.jpg)
Incidentally, is that a carbon fibre plate?!?
best kind of plate 8)
Thoon™
Post by: wilflare on Sat, 06 June 2015, 04:35:38
- 1x Blanks
- 1x Black on Black
Turns out I don't really need the Blank set.
Anyone keen on getting mine? I can ship from Singapore
Post by: Danboard on Wed, 10 June 2015, 22:33:35
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 11 June 2015, 04:30:27
The wait continues. I think I'm getting the shakes guys!You're set still hasn't arrived?
Post by: Danboard on Thu, 11 June 2015, 04:36:50
Nope, unfortunately I'm one of the lucky (unlucky?) few who were near the end of the list when Ivan ran out of sets for BoB. They should be coming soon though.The wait continues. I think I'm getting the shakes guys!You're set still hasn't arrived?
Post by: yearn4 on Thu, 11 June 2015, 14:06:51
ill pay for it :( am CONUS pls sambady.
Post by: Mooby on Fri, 12 June 2015, 06:20:42
Post by: Mutton on Mon, 15 June 2015, 00:43:29
Post by: FreeChemicals on Mon, 15 June 2015, 02:48:21
(http://i.imgur.com/7FqxH5Ll.jpg) (http://imgur.com/7FqxH5L)
any kind soul willing to spare their extra caps lock? (either stepped or the full touch is fine)
ill pay for it :( am CONUS pls sambady.
Would you be willing to trade a non-stepped caps for a 7u spacebar ? :-[
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 15 June 2015, 19:47:44
Post by: yearn4 on Tue, 16 June 2015, 22:00:13
Turns out my entire spacebar is just a little shorter than my Desko bar (just measured the distance between the stems last time). After swapping stems, I've ended up with pretty wide gaps on both the left & right side of the 7u spacebar:
(http://i.imgur.com/7FqxH5Ll.jpg) (http://imgur.com/7FqxH5L)any kind soul willing to spare their extra caps lock? (either stepped or the full touch is fine)
ill pay for it :( am CONUS pls sambady.
Would you be willing to trade a non-stepped caps for a 7u spacebar ? :-[
yes please pm me omg i love you
Post by: FreeChemicals on Wed, 17 June 2015, 06:07:16
Turns out my entire spacebar is just a little shorter than my Desko bar (just measured the distance between the stems last time). After swapping stems, I've ended up with pretty wide gaps on both the left & right side of the 7u spacebar:
(http://i.imgur.com/7FqxH5Ll.jpg) (http://imgur.com/7FqxH5L)any kind soul willing to spare their extra caps lock? (either stepped or the full touch is fine)
ill pay for it :( am CONUS pls sambady.
Would you be willing to trade a non-stepped caps for a 7u spacebar ? :-[
yes please pm me omg i love you
pm sent
Post by: Danboard on Mon, 06 July 2015, 16:41:45
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 07 July 2015, 10:52:32
Post by: Danboard on Tue, 07 July 2015, 12:17:39
Post by: daerid on Tue, 07 July 2015, 20:33:35
n/m, wrong GB
Post by: Yslen on Wed, 08 July 2015, 08:09:23
Post by: ThomasBastiani on Thu, 09 July 2015, 05:54:30
Post by: Sevas on Thu, 09 July 2015, 09:05:51
All the remaining outstanding orders were sent last week.
I still hope i get them before Greece bankrupts! :P
Post by: onesassysoccermom on Thu, 09 July 2015, 10:59:13
Post by: strict on Fri, 10 July 2015, 00:02:56
I'm interested in a pitch black set (all blanks) for a v60 build, am I too late for the current group buy?
Too late for this one, but not too late for the current GB
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71995.0
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 12 July 2015, 04:37:48
Post by: ThomasBastiani on Sun, 12 July 2015, 04:44:04
Has anyone received their missing keys? I've emailed imsto and messaged him on here a couple of times but haven't had any response after the first oneI got mine a few days ago. He emailed me a couple of weeks earlier and asked me to purchase 4$ worth of proxy service from his website to pay for shipping. Although I got 2 short shifts and live in the UK so the price might be different for other people. I hope this helps.
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 12 July 2015, 04:49:27
Post by: calavera on Tue, 14 July 2015, 08:28:27
Post by: GSimon on Tue, 14 July 2015, 15:10:42
Thanks for the extra/straight 6.25 stabilizer wires also, wasn't sure if I was going to get those so it's nice you included them.
Post by: GSimon on Thu, 16 July 2015, 17:19:59
(http://i.imgur.com/dcP4qeP.png)
looking good :thumb:
Post by: regallegion on Fri, 17 July 2015, 01:17:33
Post by: jamster on Fri, 17 July 2015, 11:27:57
I've read that the Leopold may have a non-standard space bar
I'm asking as after finally getting my order, I've realised that I will probably never use by black on black. I bought a Dolch set whilst waiting for the black on black and have decided that I like the Dolch colours too much to swap them out. And any future boards that I buy will be Topre then possibly Matias. So I'm going to send this set to a friend with an FC500R, but I am completely unfamiliar with that keyboard.
Post by: Cafiend on Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:37:24
If I had Grey's or Beige blanks I would be set ;)
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:44:58
Sorry to ask a question which has probably been buried somewhere in the preceding fifty pages, but can anyone confirm if this set is compatible with a Leopold FC500R?Deskthority has the answer. (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Space_bar_dimensions#6.25_units_.28118mm_wide.2C_3_mounts.2C_42.5_mm_apart.29)
I've read that the Leopold may have a non-standard space bar
I'm asking as after finally getting my order, I've realised that I will probably never use by black on black. I bought a Dolch set whilst waiting for the black on black and have decided that I like the Dolch colours too much to swap them out. And any future boards that I buy will be Topre then possibly Matias. So I'm going to send this set to a friend with an FC500R, but I am completely unfamiliar with that keyboard.
Post by: Ludovician on Sat, 18 July 2015, 06:36:26
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 19 July 2015, 07:20:54
Post by: ThomasBastiani on Mon, 20 July 2015, 14:11:38
Still not heard anything after another round of PM's & emails... It's been 2 months since I contacted him now...Make sure the email address is sales@imsto.cn, that worked for me.