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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #650 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 13:08:59 »
10% more to go!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #651 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 16:26:51 »
99% to go on the edox moq... :))
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #652 on: Sun, 09 February 2014, 17:04:11 »
Re-submitted with an ergodox kit ordered.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #653 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 00:22:53 »
I'm so saddened by the numbers on the addon packs. I immediately added one of each to my order.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #654 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 00:28:43 »
Yeah 1/16th to MOQ for the normal add on and 1/100th for the edox kit is pretty pitiful
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #655 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 12:40:01 »
 :D Two sets ordered and new to the KB (GH) community - so yeah, this "hobby" is taking over my life - thank guys...  :eek:
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #656 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 16:33:51 »
Hey, myfavoritegroupbuymaker :)

should I re-submit my order? I have seen you changed the orderform after my last visit here (quite a long time I know).

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #657 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 16:58:30 »
Ivan,

will you ever run a GB for blank rich black (or even darker if possible)?

sorry if this has been asked before, but i REALLY want it.  I'm still sticking to this GB, but if you are definitely either GOING TO or NOT going to do a GB for rich black, I want to make a mental note of it.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #658 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 17:11:26 »
Did you read the OP? This GB includes blank process black :))
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #659 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 17:16:24 »
Did you read the OP? This GB includes blank process black :))

Ivan edited that part out bruh bruh, not sure when though.  It's probably worth putting back in though to avoid these questions popping back up.

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« Reply #660 on: Mon, 10 February 2014, 17:24:21 »
oh lol, my bad. xD

got process and rich mixed up.

fixed now :D
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #661 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 03:04:33 »
Ivan,

will you ever run a GB for blank rich black (or even darker if possible)?

sorry if this has been asked before, but i REALLY want it.  I'm still sticking to this GB, but if you are definitely either GOING TO or NOT going to do a GB for rich black, I want to make a mental note of it.

+1. This is what I originally joined this GB for, so would love to know if there will be a truly deep (rich) black GB later.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #662 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 06:43:09 »
Me too, actually. Rich black just looks so much better...
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #663 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 10:45:43 »
Order submitted for blank 104 + 4 extra Row E.

Would it be possible to purchase 2 extra row 1 keys for numpads to replace the 2x key?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #664 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 16:18:00 »
Only need to resubmit if you are interested in the other options that have been added.

I can only make it so dark and still have printing, but it will be as dark as can be with the printing still at least vaguely visible. I am not sure there is enough interest to make MOQ with blank only... this would be very hard I think. As of now the total order is still about half blank half printed. I think this is one of those instances where small compromises need to be made to get anything into production at all.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #665 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 20:10:51 »
Only need to resubmit if you are interested in the other options that have been added.

I can only make it so dark and still have printing, but it will be as dark as can be with the printing still at least vaguely visible. I am not sure there is enough interest to make MOQ with blank only... this would be very hard I think. As of now the total order is still about half blank half printed. I think this is one of those instances where small compromises need to be made to get anything into production at all.

Well that's not good =( I'm really only interested in the blank option.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #666 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 20:15:46 »
You want blank, you will have it. All I am saying, is we can't have it too dark black, because then printing is impossible. Without printed set, nothing get made because blank only not enough orders to carry the buy into moq.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #667 on: Tue, 11 February 2014, 20:39:37 »
Yeah there's not enough otaku love around here!
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #668 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 00:04:58 »
Can you remind me how many sets I ordered?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #669 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 04:45:26 »
side print option dead or there is still hope for it  ?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #670 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 05:43:47 »
side print option dead or there is still hope for it  ?

Ivan said he is still waiting for a final answer on this.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #671 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 08:02:27 »
What is the usual production time of a GB like this?

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« Reply #672 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 08:10:47 »
Production time, probably something like 6-8 week.
For sideprinting, it sound like they are not ready for this yet. Perhaps they will be ready for next time and we can also do set like these:



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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #673 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 09:11:30 »
You want blank, you will have it. All I am saying, is we can't have it too dark black, because then printing is impossible. Without printed set, nothing get made because blank only not enough orders to carry the buy into moq.

Playing devil's advocate (I like the RF charcoal regardless), I can't imagine printing would be "impossible", would it? The machines physically don't work if the keys are too dark? The printing might be incredibly difficult to see, but the odds of the printing being the exact same black seems truly "impossible", at least to a layman like me. And surely dye-sub causes some degree of marking, however faint.

I get that you're not manufacturing them yourself so you're at the whim of the keymaker's statements, whatever they say ultimately is what is available.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #674 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 09:15:06 »
You want blank, you will have it. All I am saying, is we can't have it too dark black, because then printing is impossible. Without printed set, nothing get made because blank only not enough orders to carry the buy into moq.

Playing devil's advocate (I like the RF charcoal regardless), I can't imagine printing would be "impossible", would it? The machines physically don't work if the keys are too dark? The printing might be incredibly difficult to see, but the odds of the printing being the exact same black seems truly "impossible", at least to a layman like me. And surely dye-sub/double-shooting causes some degree of marking, however faint.

I get that you're not manufacturing them yourself so you're at the whim of the keymaker's statements, whatever they say ultimately is what is available.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #675 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 11:42:48 »
As I think you understand, with dye sublimation you cannot produce colors lighter than the surface on which you're printing. If you have an extremely dark keycap, then you can't really print any darker to have any sort of defining contrast between the keycaps and the lettering. This would make lettering almost invisible, and most people who want lettering want their lettering to be visible, so we probably wouldn't be able to reach MOQ even with an option for lettering.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #676 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:05:43 »
Will these black Plum keycaps be as thick as these?



Because if so, damn.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #677 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 20:09:01 »
Will these black Plum keycaps be as thick as these?

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Because if so, damn.

Is that a picture of Plum caps?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #678 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 21:04:59 »
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #679 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 21:16:01 »
Will these black Plum keycaps be as thick as these?

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Because if so, damn.

These caps are PBT, not plum fyi. I don't know about the thickness question, though.

Edit: Ignore this silliness ^^ (I got plum and POM confused...don't ask)
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #680 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 21:35:10 »
PLUM is just same thick like the Cherry one imsto and I have before. That photo is of original vintage Cherry ones from around 1986.

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« Reply #681 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 22:14:48 »
PLUM is just same thick like the Cherry one imsto and I have before. That photo is of original vintage Cherry ones from around 1986.

Ah, ok. I just assumed they were the actual ones in the GB you did on DT.

Also 1pq, is Plum not the manufacturer? I know they're both PBT, I wasn't talking about material.

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« Reply #682 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 22:25:32 »
haha for some reason I got POM and PLUM very mixed up in my head...sorry guys I'm tired :-[
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #683 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 22:31:27 »
PLUM does make POM too. Maybe we can try to do a groupbuy for that again sometime... it had a pretty low price I am not sure why it didn't go very far. POM is very nice too.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #684 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 22:51:43 »
PLUM does make POM too. Maybe we can try to do a groupbuy for that again sometime... it had a pretty low price I am not sure why it didn't go very far. POM is very nice too.

I would get a POM set if they were cherry profile, had legends, and didn't have the win8 logo (or a option to get blank win keys).
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #685 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 23:05:59 »
i would get it IF it had that win8 logo.  classy as ****.

jokes.  i would get it anyways. I did try to get two sets in dante's GB.

EDIT:

kinda sad about the no side-print thing.  that's fine, i'll get it in the next GB if it's there.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #686 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 23:06:52 »
PLUM does make POM too. Maybe we can try to do a groupbuy for that again sometime... it had a pretty low price I am not sure why it didn't go very far. POM is very nice too.

Yes!  It made me sad when that buy went nowhere.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #687 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 23:08:30 »
That price is awesome! Plum POM revival?
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« Reply #688 on: Wed, 12 February 2014, 23:19:50 »
that was a REALLY low MOQ.  it should have been a smashing success :(
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #689 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 01:31:15 »
Will these have a smooth surface or textured? Probably going to put in an order if they're textured.
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« Reply #690 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 03:39:23 »
that was a REALLY low MOQ.  it should have been a smashing success :(

I believe the Asian source smelled bad. A matter of trust.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #691 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 08:25:27 »
I haven't touch them myself yet, but judge from photo texture will be more on finer side like other Cherry profile PBTs.

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« Reply #692 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 10:11:31 »
I haven't touch them myself yet, but judge from photo texture will be more on finer side like other Cherry profile PBTs.

Can we see pictures, or are you just going off previous imsto sets you've seen? Thanks

Also, am I reading this right? It takes an additional 6-7 weeks after the GB closes to actually make the keys?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #693 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 10:32:53 »
I haven't touch them myself yet, but judge from photo texture will be more on finer side like other Cherry profile PBTs.

Can we see pictures, or are you just going off previous imsto sets you've seen? Thanks

Also, am I reading this right? It takes an additional 6-7 weeks after the GB closes to actually make the keys?

6-7 weeks is pretty standard because you have to deal with manufacturing, shipping from China -> USA for Ivan to divvy up, and then sending them out from there (unless you're lucky like some of the last PBT orders and are located in Asia, IMSTO might send directly to you) lies this is plum

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #694 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 11:01:29 »
My production time is more a rough estimate. First the keys need to be made as this color is not something they will have standing stock on which will need to be fit into their production schedule. After that the sets that need printing need to go to another party for dyesub... then transit time.

You can see the keys we will be getting on white Choc mini, Plum 96 or Neo Zelia photo.

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« Reply #695 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 11:15:13 »
Ordered These look cool

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« Reply #696 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 11:24:53 »
ordered also!hope can get enough sets for MOQ,and thanks Ivan for group this GB!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #697 on: Thu, 13 February 2014, 21:39:06 »
I have to cancel for now, unfortunately. Probably own't have the extra money like I had hoped. :(

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #698 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 06:13:03 »
My production time is more a rough estimate. First the keys need to be made as this color is not something they will have standing stock on which will need to be fit into their production schedule. After that the sets that need printing need to go to another party for dyesub... then transit time.

You can see the keys we will be getting on white Choc mini, Plum 96 or Neo Zelia photo.

So this?


They look pretty cheap, at least in that picture.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 + GMK ABS add ons
« Reply #699 on: Fri, 14 February 2014, 10:24:38 »
What look cheap? The pad print? If that what you think make it look cheap then it's not even a concern since we aren't doing that.

PBTs are almost to MOQ :D