Why are they even worth that much to begin with?
As for why they're expensive in the first place.. Supply and demand. Simple as that.
Why are they even worth that much to begin with?
They're not. They're worth the same. People just inflate the prices to all hell because they can and the creator doesn't care. Exclusivity makes people do ridiculous things.
Why are they even worth that much to begin with?
They're not. They're worth the same. People just inflate the prices to all hell because they can and the creator doesn't care. Exclusivity makes people do ridiculous things.
I'm not sure that is a fair assessment, clickclack has more than once made it clear that he does not appreciate what the secondary market has become. He has some very good posts in his artisan sub-forum sharing his thoughts on the way people treat his caps and what they have become.
Based on photographs alone, I think brobot's latest work is the cleanest casting, and then gasmask's, and then others.
Based on photographs alone, I think brobot's latest work is the cleanest casting, and then gasmask's, and then others.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/973JxWu.gif)
I think he meant "shots fired"Based on photographs alone, I think brobot's latest work is the cleanest casting, and then gasmask's, and then others.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/973JxWu.gif)
Sorry bro, I hope you are not hurt, if it means anything, Bingecap is one of the only novelty caps I have and intend to keep (Other two being a toxic gasmask and shotkeys)
Based on photographs alone, I think brobot's latest work is the cleanest casting, and then gasmask's, and then others.
Why is casting perfection the only measurement you guys are using to judge these artisnal pieces?
Why is casting perfection the only measurement you guys are using to judge these artisnal pieces?
It isn't, but since people were talking about casting quality, I was dispelling that notion. I appreciate the art of different cap makers. I always hope people love my caps I make in spite of their casting flaws. It comes down to the passion the work shows and the interesting elements that each artist imparts.
(http://img.pandawhale.com/36243-slow-clap-citizen-kane-orson-w-bJkI.gif)Why is casting perfection the only measurement you guys are using to judge these artisnal pieces?
It isn't, but since people were talking about casting quality, I was dispelling that notion. I appreciate the art of different cap makers. I always hope people love my caps I make in spite of their casting flaws. It comes down to the passion the work shows and the interesting elements that each artist imparts.
Why is casting perfection the only measurement you guys are using to judge these artisnal pieces?
It isn't, but since people were talking about casting quality, I was dispelling that notion. I appreciate the art of different cap makers. I always hope people love my caps I make in spite of their casting flaws. It comes down to the passion the work shows and the interesting elements that each artist imparts.
Not disagreeing with any other responses, I'd also like to add that the exclusivity and variety in the caps make them rare and in demand.
Plus, in the opinion of most, Clacks are probably more desirable. Seeing tricolor skulls and Julysicle/Oktoberfest/3D and things like that just makes me realize that neither Bro Caps' works nor Gas Masks come close in creativity.
Not disagreeing with any other responses, I'd also like to add that the exclusivity and variety in the caps make them rare and in demand.
Plus, in the opinion of most, Clacks are probably more desirable. Seeing tricolor skulls and Julysicle/Oktoberfest/3D and things like that just makes me realize that neither Bro Caps' works nor Gas Masks come close in creativity.
Not disagreeing with any other responses, I'd also like to add that the exclusivity and variety in the caps make them rare and in demand.
Plus, in the opinion of most, Clacks are probably more desirable. Seeing tricolor skulls and Julysicle/Oktoberfest/3D and things like that just makes me realize that neither Bro Caps' works nor Gas Masks come close in creativity.
You do know BroCaps is making 4-shot caps right now, don't you?
Not disagreeing with any other responses, I'd also like to add that the exclusivity and variety in the caps make them rare and in demand.
Plus, in the opinion of most, Clacks are probably more desirable. Seeing tricolor skulls and Julysicle/Oktoberfest/3D and things like that just makes me realize that neither Bro Caps' works nor Gas Masks come close in creativity.
You do know BroCaps is making 4-shot caps right now, don't you?
Are they translucent? :p
I just don't put it on the same level., simply because I, and probably most people, buy art caps purely for their aesthetics, not really how they're made. But I'm sure that it will appeal to some people who care and thus drive the price up.
Not disagreeing with any other responses, I'd also like to add that the exclusivity and variety in the caps make them rare and in demand.
Plus, in the opinion of most, Clacks are probably more desirable. Seeing tricolor skulls and Julysicle/Oktoberfest/3D and things like that just makes me realize that neither Bro Caps' works nor Gas Masks come close in creativity.
You do know BroCaps is making 4-shot caps right now, don't you?
Are they translucent? :p
I just don't put it on the same level., simply because I, and probably most people, buy art caps purely for their aesthetics, not really how they're made. But I'm sure that it will appeal to some people who care and thus drive the price up.
So you are arguing that some people buy items for aesthetics, but aesthetics aren't all that appeal to people. People also buy things for other reasons. In this argument you state that you are with the majority.
What's your point?
::EDIT:: yes some are translucent,Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UwD41vF.jpg)
Not disagreeing with any other responses, I'd also like to add that the exclusivity and variety in the caps make them rare and in demand.
Plus, in the opinion of most, Clacks are probably more desirable. Seeing tricolor skulls and Julysicle/Oktoberfest/3D and things like that just makes me realize that neither Bro Caps' works nor Gas Masks come close in creativity.
You do know BroCaps is making 4-shot caps right now, don't you?
Are they translucent? :p
I just don't put it on the same level., simply because I, and probably most people, buy art caps purely for their aesthetics, not really how they're made. But I'm sure that it will appeal to some people who care and thus drive the price up.
So you are arguing that some people buy items for aesthetics, but aesthetics aren't all that appeal to people. People also buy things for other reasons. In this argument you state that you are with the majority.
What's your point?
::EDIT:: yes some are translucent,Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UwD41vF.jpg)
You misunderstood. I said that I don't buy caps because of how they're made, i.e. that I wouldn't buy a four-shot cap over a painted cap if it didn't look better. Binge, you literally made up what I said.
Not disagreeing with any other responses, I'd also like to add that the exclusivity and variety in the caps make them rare and in demand.
Plus, in the opinion of most, Clacks are probably more desirable. Seeing tricolor skulls and Julysicle/Oktoberfest/3D and things like that just makes me realize that neither Bro Caps' works nor Gas Masks come close in creativity.
You do know BroCaps is making 4-shot caps right now, don't you?
Are they translucent? :p
I just don't put it on the same level., simply because I, and probably most people, buy art caps purely for their aesthetics, not really how they're made. But I'm sure that it will appeal to some people who care and thus drive the price up.
So you are arguing that some people buy items for aesthetics, but aesthetics aren't all that appeal to people. People also buy things for other reasons. In this argument you state that you are with the majority.
What's your point?
::EDIT:: yes some are translucent,Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UwD41vF.jpg)
You misunderstood. I said that I don't buy caps because of how they're made, i.e. that I wouldn't buy a four-shot cap over a painted cap if it didn't look better. Binge, you literally made up what I said.
You mentioned the other makers caps didn't compare due to creativity so how can you separate 'how they are made' from them being creative?
Why are they even worth that much to begin with?
They're not. They're worth the same. People just inflate the prices to all hell because they can and the creator doesn't care. Exclusivity makes people do ridiculous things.
I'm not sure that is a fair assessment, clickclack has more than once made it clear that he does not appreciate what the secondary market has become. He has some very good posts in his artisan sub-forum sharing his thoughts on the way people treat his caps and what they have become.
>Cluck Clarks are best creativity
>Are mostly all skulls
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B-but 420s and tricolor blanks.. :-Xkeyword : mostly
B-but 420s and tricolor blanks.. :-Xkeyword : mostly
I don't really want to argue, I just gave my opinion and Binge flew off the handle because of it. I thinks I'll just find somewhere where a neutral opinion on pricing isn't raged at.I didn't say a word about your discussion with binge..
B-but 420s and tricolor blanks.. :-Xkeyword : mostly
I don't really want to argue, I just gave my opinion and Binge flew off the handle because of it. I thinks I'll just find somewhere where a neutral opinion on pricing isn't raged at.
B-but 420s and tricolor blanks.. :-Xkeyword : mostly
I don't really want to argue, I just gave my opinion and Binge flew off the handle because of it. I thinks I'll just find somewhere where a neutral opinion on pricing isn't raged at.
How did he fly off the handle? His response was perfectly reasonable. I see you engage in mud slinging all over this website, I think I've figured out why.
Not disagreeing with any other responses, I'd also like to add that the exclusivity and variety in the caps make them rare and in demand.
Plus, in the opinion of most, Clacks are probably more desirable. Seeing tricolor skulls and Julysicle/Oktoberfest/3D and things like that just makes me realize that neither Bro Caps' works nor Gas Masks come close in creativity.
I just don't put it on the same level., simply because I, and probably most people, buy art caps purely for their aesthetics, not really how they're made. But I'm sure that it will appeal to some people who care and thus drive the price up.
So you are arguing that some people buy items for aesthetics, but aesthetics aren't all that appeal to people. People also buy things for other reasons. In this argument you state that you are with the majority.
You misunderstood. I said that I don't buy caps because of how they're made, i.e. that I wouldn't buy a four-shot cap over a painted cap if it didn't look better. Binge, you literally made up what I said.
But I'm sure that it will appeal to some people who care and thus drive the price up.
I just don't put it on the same level., simply because I, and probably most people, buy art caps purely for their aesthetics, not really how they're made. But I'm sure that it will appeal to some people who care and thus drive the price up.
So you are arguing that some people buy items for aesthetics, but aesthetics aren't all that appeal to people. People also buy things for other reasons. In this argument you state that you are with the majority.
You misunderstood. I said that I don't buy caps because of how they're made, i.e. that I wouldn't buy a four-shot cap over a painted cap if it didn't look better. Binge, you literally made up what I said.
I don't know, man. I reread everything that was said, and Binge didn't fly off the handle. He also didn't make up anything you said, just pretty much restated it word for word. I don't see how you can say he overreacted or that he's being held to a different standard...
Linkbane,
I'll admit communication skills are probably at the ass end of my skillset. I was just curious why you mentioned that ultimately aesthetics govern your decision to buy artwork, but in the same statement you state that you guess others (who are a minority) buy for other reasons.
It just seemed... wishy-washy? ah it really doesn't matter. To you Clacks are aesthetically more appealing and therefore more meaningful even more creative and I can respect that.
There are a few caps from a variety of cap makers which I respect for either color or contour/shape which is as good a reason as any to buy a piece of art.
Folks are going to comment on what you say because aesthetics are subjective, and I think you hinted at an appreciation of craft valuable when you said,But I'm sure that it will appeal to some people who care and thus drive the price up.
There are just some people who see the craft (artform and work associated) as beautiful as the shape.
Just what is attraction and the need to defend it? When I was a teen it really mattered to some people how their girl/boyfriend appealed to the larger audience. Today I know a few women I work with who ***** and moan about how their husbands are "completely unpresentable at parties and social gatherings," when they are wonderful people to be around.
Logical tangents aside-- there's no reason to be defensive I just wanted to know if you had a greater point in mind when you mentioned something completely subjective in a thread that dares to inquire if there is an objective difference between ClickClacks and GasMasks.
Why are they even worth that much to begin with?
They're not. They're worth the same. People just inflate the prices to all hell because they can and the creator doesn't care. Exclusivity makes people do ridiculous things.
I'm not sure that is a fair assessment, clickclack has more than once made it clear that he does not appreciate what the secondary market has become. He has some very good posts in his artisan sub-forum sharing his thoughts on the way people treat his caps and what they have become.
The secondary market is unavoidable when the production process is so meticulous. If he could keep up with demand for the product, the secondary market wouldn't exist. This is not a criticism so much as an observation. His work is spectacular and it's disappointing that there hasn't been a true 4grabs in a very long time. I have a topre oktoberfest and candy corn that I decided I liked enough to buy on said secondary market, but I would gladly eat the loss in value if I could buy more of these caps easily or at retail prices. Speaking of which, if anyone has the arrow cluster candy corn caps in topre to sell I'll offer up my soul. :)
Also didnt kmiller try and microwave/burn one and it took forever? your also paying for those magic flame retardant materials :)
We need an artisan cap stress test with heat, cold, water, acid, drop, cat, and flame. If I had a video camera I'd sacrifice one of each artists offerings to shoot a video like that.
We need an artisan cap stress test with heat, cold, water, acid, drop, cat, and flame. If I had a video camera I'd sacrifice one of each artists offerings to shoot a video like that.
Does your phone not record video?
l might buy you a camera to see you stress test your OG clack :))
My BroBot V2 passed the cat bite test. No scratches.
My BroBot V2 passed the cat bite test. No scratches. Scared the crap out of me, but no damage. :)The metal bro or plastic bro? :D
plot twist, you turn around, cat grabs it and runs away, hides it in the litter box :eek:
The metal bro or plastic bro? :D
For an easy way to grasp this concept, watch the Jiro Dreams of Sushi documentary. Literally lifetimes dedicated to a small piece of uncooked fish on top of (nearly) plain rice (with minor garnishes).
Because bees
There's a very Eastern (I believe Japanese, primarily) way of thinking towards devoting tons of energy and intense focus on what, at the surface, seems to be a very simple thing. However, the reason for such focus is the pursuit of absolute perfection. This is why you see things like sushi, samurai swords, etc. (very stereotypical, but for a reason) that are extremely stripped down and simple in design, but are crafted to incredible, nearly incomprehensible levels of quality, and within that, *extremely* complex detail.
For an easy way to grasp this concept, watch the Jiro Dreams of Sushi documentary. Literally lifetimes dedicated to a small piece of uncooked fish on top of (nearly) plain rice (with minor garnishes).
This is in contrast to more Western thinking around ornate-ness, detail, elaborate complexity.
Something to think about when considering different artistic styles, whether keycaps or otherwise. Different pursuits of quality.
There's a very Eastern (I believe Japanese, primarily) way of thinking towards devoting tons of energy and intense focus on what, at the surface, seems to be a very simple thing. However, the reason for such focus is the pursuit of absolute perfection. This is why you see things like sushi, samurai swords, etc. (very stereotypical, but for a reason) that are extremely stripped down and simple in design, but are crafted to incredible, nearly incomprehensible levels of quality, and within that, *extremely* complex detail.
For an easy way to grasp this concept, watch the Jiro Dreams of Sushi documentary. Literally lifetimes dedicated to a small piece of uncooked fish on top of (nearly) plain rice (with minor garnishes).
This is in contrast to more Western thinking around ornate-ness, detail, elaborate complexity.
Something to think about when considering different artistic styles, whether keycaps or otherwise. Different pursuits of quality.
Oh god I might have just gotten the most ridiculous idea for some custom keycaps.
There's a very Eastern (I believe Japanese, primarily) way of thinking towards devoting tons of energy and intense focus on what, at the surface, seems to be a very simple thing. However, the reason for such focus is the pursuit of absolute perfection. This is why you see things like sushi, samurai swords, etc. (very stereotypical, but for a reason) that are extremely stripped down and simple in design, but are crafted to incredible, nearly incomprehensible levels of quality, and within that, *extremely* complex detail.
For an easy way to grasp this concept, watch the Jiro Dreams of Sushi documentary. Literally lifetimes dedicated to a small piece of uncooked fish on top of (nearly) plain rice (with minor garnishes).
This is in contrast to more Western thinking around ornate-ness, detail, elaborate complexity.
Something to think about when considering different artistic styles, whether keycaps or otherwise. Different pursuits of quality.
Oh god I might have just gotten the most ridiculous idea for some custom keycaps.
Sushi caps™?