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Title: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: mkawa on Thu, 15 May 2014, 16:14:15
I have discussed this with Unicomp, and they now have the tooling to make Red on white/pebble sets in their standard font. To order, I suggest filling out this form: http://support.pckeyboard.com/index.php?a=add with priority level high, and request a full custom set of buttons such that all 1x keys are BRILLIANT WHITE with RED LEGENDS, and the modifiers are either pebble or gray (your choice!) with RED LEGENDS.

In addition, you can add an RGB kit to this order for a Red Alert set with RGB modifiers.

Keep in mind that you need to let them know explicitly what size of spacebar and bottom row modifiers you need.

The price of this set should be the same as any other custom button set they sell.

Happy shopping folks!

edit: these are dye sublimated keys, similar to the limited run geekhack.org function row sets.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 16:19:39

The price of this set should be the same as any other custom button set they sell.


Awesome wicked!

What might that price be?

PS - I presume that these have to be pad-printed?

Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: katushkin on Thu, 15 May 2014, 16:25:04
I think I might go for this. My Model M came missing some keys so I might just order a red set rather than a new original set.

Is it possible to just put in your model number rather than measuring your spacebar/modifiers etc?
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 15 May 2014, 17:30:48
Is it possible to just put in your model number rather than measuring your spacebar/modifiers etc?

The "classic" Model M does not have Windows keys. The "modern" sets have 2 Windows keys and that other "windows-like"key which makes for a shorter spacebar.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 15 May 2014, 17:38:02
Whoa, this is good news.  Any chance of additional custom colors?  Maybe some purple?
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 15 May 2014, 17:46:24
Only a few years late...

That ssk must be close.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 15 May 2014, 18:03:04
Whoa, this is good news.  Any chance of additional custom colors?  Maybe some purple?

I tried to get custom purple on white caps. They said that they didn't have the ability to make purple caps anymore :(
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: katushkin on Thu, 15 May 2014, 18:15:40
Is it possible to just put in your model number rather than measuring your spacebar/modifiers etc?

The "classic" Model M does not have Windows keys. The "modern" sets have 2 Windows keys and that other "windows-like"key which makes for a shorter spacebar.

Right. So I can just say I have an old one? I have a 1391406, so it's ISO as well.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: strafe on Fri, 16 May 2014, 07:32:09
Would it be possible to order this set in pearl/pebble or grey so I can get a matching space bar for my Model M?
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: JPG on Fri, 16 May 2014, 08:20:38
Quite interesting! Anyone know if they are pad printed or dye-sub?


Also, anyone know if they have all the keys for a F122 not modified.


Finally, anyone has an estimate of the cost for a full F122 layout?
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 16 May 2014, 10:50:00
I just went through this with Zach and ordered a set. I will post photos when they arrive.

I asked for a white keys and pebble modifiers. I also asked for a pebble backslash/pipe.

It did not occur to me to ask for top row F keys for a 122, I should have.

My biggest disappointment is that they do not make a pebble spacebar. I have a gray one that I plan to use, but I may get a bright white one later.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: JPG on Fri, 16 May 2014, 10:51:13
I just went through this with Zach and ordered a set. I will post photos when they arrive.

I asked for a white keys and pebble modifiers. I also asked for a pebble backslash/pipe.

It did not occur to me to ask for top row F keys for a 122, I should have.

My biggest disappointment is that they do not make a pebble spacebar. I have a gray one that I plan to use, but I may get a bright white one later.


Can you detail what it cost? Do you know if they are dye-sub?
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: fohat.digs on Fri, 16 May 2014, 11:07:02
I just went through this with Zach and ordered a set. I will post photos when they arrive.

I asked for a white keys and pebble modifiers. I also asked for a pebble backslash/pipe.

It did not occur to me to ask for top row F keys for a 122, I should have.

My biggest disappointment is that they do not make a pebble spacebar. I have a gray one that I plan to use, but I may get a bright white one later.


Can you detail what it cost? Do you know if they are dye-sub?

It cost $30 + shipping, which surprised me (low). That is what a standard Model M set of keys costs.

I will be utterly delighted if they are dye-sub, but I would bet money that they are going to be pad-printed.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 16 May 2014, 12:11:51
these are dye subbed. they do not pad print because of the lack of durability.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: daetsid on Fri, 16 May 2014, 15:20:51
does anyone knows how much do they charge for int. shipping?
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 16 May 2014, 15:38:59
Wow. I'm doing this right now!
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 16 May 2014, 19:00:32
does anyone knows how much do they charge for int. shipping?
shipping should be at the very most, 24$ to anywhere in the world, as a full set will fit in a small FRB. i generally ask them to ship via USPS and refund me the difference when i order from them. their cart software seems to only work with UPS ground, but they're very capable of shipping via USPS.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 16 May 2014, 20:10:39
Ignored my old IBM's for far too long, now's the time to start re-filling them with some RED goodness.  Just wish they would also provide British Racing Green with their colour choices.

Also Ultramarine Blue would be nice........
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: thestage on Fri, 16 May 2014, 20:58:09
$30 for a full dye sub set?

Anyone know if these are one piece or two piece caps?

I'll wait on pictures, but if these look good I'm definitely in.  Please update when you guys get your orders.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: Badwrench on Fri, 16 May 2014, 21:36:46
$30 for a full dye sub set?

Anyone know if these are one piece or two piece caps?

I'll wait on pictures, but if these look good I'm definitely in.  Please update when you guys get your orders.

If they use their standard bright white caps, they should be 2-piece for everything that uses only one barrel. 
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: mkawa on Fri, 16 May 2014, 22:35:46
brilliant white caps are all 2-piece afaik
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: sleepy916 on Fri, 16 May 2014, 22:41:25
I can't wait to see the sets, it would be nice to switch from the Kentucky blue set from time to time.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: The_Beast on Fri, 16 May 2014, 23:21:55
these are dye subbed. they do not pad print because of the lack of durability.

Any reason why they can't do custom colors?
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: mkawa on Sat, 17 May 2014, 22:47:18
probably inks. they didn't set themselves up to do arbitrary graphics, as it's quite difficult to get accurate color out of CMYK printed substrate, and they mostly run black and gray. i know they have red, but i have no idea what other colors they run, and the quality of dyesub inks that they use are pretty expensive, especially since you need to buy in a fair amount of bulk.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: fohat.digs on Mon, 19 May 2014, 16:33:51
As usual, Zach at Unicomp was incredibly fast and accurate.

I only wish that they had a spacebar in pebble .....

Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: sleepy916 on Mon, 19 May 2014, 22:22:04
As usual, Zach at Unicomp was incredibly fast and accurate.

I only wish that they had a spacebar in pebble .....

Oh crap. Ordering this...
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 19 May 2014, 22:35:40
As usual, Zach at Unicomp was incredibly fast and accurate.

I only wish that they had a spacebar in pebble .....



Could you Retrobrite the space bar to lighten the colour?
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 20 May 2014, 06:13:46
Could you Retrobrite the space bar to lighten the colour?

What? No, that is the natural color "pearl" like all Model M spacebars. They are PBT and do not discolor like ABS (unless it is a later one from Greenock, after they switched to ABS).

I wanted a "pebble" spacebar to match the modifiers. The other logical option would be a bright white spacebar, which I almost ordered, but decided against it. I tried it with my light gray bar, but it was awful. Pebble is a very "warm" gray, while the gray they sell is very "cool" almost blue-ish.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: mkawa on Tue, 20 May 2014, 16:43:01
the only way to lighten it is probably going to be paint.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 20 May 2014, 16:44:43
As usual, Zach at Unicomp was incredibly fast and accurate.

I only wish that they had a spacebar in pebble .....

Well now...that changes things. Ordering this now!
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 20 May 2014, 17:46:02
Could you Retrobrite the space bar to lighten the colour?

What? No, that is the natural color "pearl" like all Model M spacebars. They are PBT and do not discolor like ABS (unless it is a later one from Greenock, after they switched to ABS).

I wanted a "pebble" spacebar to match the modifiers. The other logical option would be a bright white spacebar, which I almost ordered, but decided against it. I tried it with my light gray bar, but it was awful. Pebble is a very "warm" gray, while the gray they sell is very "cool" almost blue-ish.

Sorry, I must have been thinking of something else.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 20 May 2014, 18:05:50
Sorry, I must have been thinking of something else.

Their selections are great otherwise, but for some reason the spacebars are very limited.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 20 May 2014, 19:12:28
BRILLIANT WHITE with RED LEGENDS, and the modifiers are either pebble or gray (your choice!) with RED LEGENDS.

What is the reason to go with white alphas over (say) a more classic color scheme of pearl alphas?
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 20 May 2014, 19:32:41
What is the reason to go with white alphas over (say) a more classic color scheme of pearl alphas?

Alert!

The bright white is as much of a statement as the red, and maybe they are still fond of the Kentucky Wildcats theme (can you believe that I finally decided to order one of those less than 24 hours after they sold the last one?).
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: dante on Tue, 20 May 2014, 19:39:06
I still have deep regrets of letting go of my Kentucky Wildcats Unicomp during my Keyboard purging phase...
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: sleepy916 on Tue, 20 May 2014, 19:52:48
I just sent the ticket in, I opted to get the pearl instead of the brilliant white.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: fohat.digs on Tue, 20 May 2014, 20:19:51
I just sent the ticket in, I opted to get the pearl instead of the brilliant white.

Might have been a good idea.

Makes blending a lot easier.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 20 May 2014, 20:22:11
What is the reason to go with white alphas over (say) a more classic color scheme of pearl alphas?

Alert!

The bright white is as much of a statement as the red, and maybe they are still fond of the Kentucky Wildcats theme (can you believe that I finally decided to order one of those less than 24 hours after they sold the last one?).

yeah, but red / white are the colours of the Louisville Cardinals, a big rival of Kentucky.

You'd think they'd want to do Blue / white first.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: iAmAhab on Wed, 21 May 2014, 04:02:13
Looks like ordering has become a bit more streamlined:

http://pckeyboard.com/page/Buttons/FullRGBKeys (http://pckeyboard.com/page/Buttons/FullRGBKeys)
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: strafe on Wed, 21 May 2014, 04:43:18
Sweet!  Thanks for the heads up iAmAhab :D
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: zmenchho on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:23:16
Hey guys,

Thank you for the praises!   We are working hard to bring you more of what you want for your typing needs ;)

What do you have on your desk? 

This is what is on my desk!
 [attach=1]

Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: Parak on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:47:43
Do these happen to come with the barrel inserts/sleeves/stabilizers (whichever the proper term is)? Are customizations possible, such as Ctrl instead of Caps Lock, Fn instead of windows on the 1x, or front printed F1-12 on the number row, etc?
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:50:37
I just got an email this morning that in addition to the red font sets, there are also blue and green fonts. Also see zmenchho's picture  :))
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: katushkin on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:56:29
An all white set?

oh lordy
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: Techno Trousers on Wed, 21 May 2014, 07:59:34
Is Unicomp now producing a 101-sized brilliant white space bar? I wasn't able to get one with a custom brilliant white/gray 103 key keyboard I ordered a few months ago.

It's great to see they have the alternate font colors available for general ordering now.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: ideus on Wed, 21 May 2014, 08:17:54
This is very cool. Have anyone heard something about the new SSK?
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: pcnnnn on Wed, 21 May 2014, 09:30:59
Hey guys,

Thank you for the praises!   We are working hard to bring you more of what you want for your typing needs ;)

What do you have on your desk? 

This is what is on my desk!
  (Attachment Link)

Any chance for a picture of the Red on Pebble and Blue on Grey keycap? Or if possible a picture showing the differences between Grey/Pebble

Also just making sure, the same color combination  as the Model M (which I call Biege/Gray) in Unicomp language is Pearl/Pebble right?

Now if you guys just make a Black on Yellow full set, my life would be complete!
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: Techno Trousers on Wed, 21 May 2014, 10:12:29
Also just making sure, the same color combination  as the Model M (which I call Biege/Gray) in Unicomp language is Pearl/Pebble right?

Pebble/Pearl is the original IBM Model M color scheme. The Unicomp pebble modifiers are a slightly different color than the ones on the Model F, however.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: JimByr on Wed, 21 May 2014, 10:30:41
Other questions...

1) An SSK set with these colors?

2) A brilliant white alphas/gray modifiers set?

3) Individual colored keys with red, blue, or green text?

4) A colored modifiers set with red, blue, or green text?

5) Can any of the above possibilities be made with a custom order?

It's like getting a new candy store in the neighborhood.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 22 May 2014, 13:42:39
When I bought the red alert set in post #25, I did not realize that other colors were available.

I put them on the keybaord and took a picture, but I literally never even plugged it in, so the caps have literally 0 seconds of use.

I will sell the set for $36 shipped domestic US (about $10 less than Unicomp's price) and the spacebar is not part of the set.

Send me a PM
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: Techno Trousers on Thu, 22 May 2014, 19:35:12
Other questions...

4) A colored modifiers set with red, blue, or green text?

Yes, I want to know the answer to this one. I never bought one of their RGB sets with the black on colored modifiers, since I didn't like the way they looked so out of place. But subtle RGB fonts on pebble mods? Mmmm... Yes, please, I'll take five sets of those!

We should put in special requests for this, and maybe they'll start offering it as a standard package.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 22 May 2014, 20:02:08
But subtle RGB fonts on pebble mods?

Harkens back to the old Omnikey days.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: E TwentyNine on Thu, 22 May 2014, 20:34:49
As usual, Zach at Unicomp was incredibly fast and accurate.

I only wish that they had a spacebar in pebble .....

Wait a second, what ordering "code" would that be?  Did you fire them a note asking for a special combination of brilliant white alphas with pebble secondaries?
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: fohat.digs on Thu, 22 May 2014, 20:56:16
Wait a second, what ordering "code" would that be?  Did you fire them a note asking for a special combination of brilliant white alphas with pebble secondaries?

Yes, you can use my photo if you want. Or, why not buy mine and save? I just put them on and didn't ever use them. What I really want is a green set and I did not know that anything but red was available when I bought them. Also, I will do international for $10 more, far cheaper than Unicomp.

Also, I specifically asked for a pebble Backslash/Pipe because I think it looks better that way. I have tried a pebble tilde but it just looks "off" somehow.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: E TwentyNine on Thu, 22 May 2014, 21:03:51
I'd go for the tilde being the secondary color as well.

But either way, red isn't my color of choice, green is.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: JimByr on Fri, 23 May 2014, 08:11:38
But subtle RGB fonts on pebble mods? Mmmm... Yes, please, I'll take five sets of those!

We should put in special requests for this, and maybe they'll start offering it as a standard package.
Agreed. That would be a great option to compliment the default pearl/pebble keys.

Pebble Alts with green text are common. I have one pebble Ctrl with red text. And some special purpose keycaps with blue text. So all of these text colors have been available in the past.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 30 May 2014, 07:13:52
They only do coloured legend sets for American boards :( No ISO

I don't know what I'm going to do to get replacement caps now... :'(
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: Techno Trousers on Fri, 30 May 2014, 08:11:52
They only do coloured legend sets for American boards :( No ISO

I don't know what I'm going to do to get replacement caps now... :'(

Couldn't you get a set of ANSI colored pebble/pearl caps and use your existing ISO specific black caps where needed? If I remember right, there should only be enter, shift(s) and one or two extra 1x keys that don't match. I'd think the 1x keys would look a little strange, but it wouldn't be terrible.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 31 May 2014, 05:31:03
Mmm, could do. I think I will just buy some replacements for my missing ones from clicky keyboards for the moment and maybe get coloured alphas at some point.
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: cmadrid on Sat, 31 May 2014, 09:02:08
I'd totally buy a unicomp keyboard if they had tenkeyless :(
Title: Re: How to purchase a Red Alert set for buckling springs
Post by: Techno Trousers on Sat, 31 May 2014, 12:16:50
I'd totally buy a unicomp keyboard if they had tenkeyless :(

They have pre-announced one, which is supposed to be out at the end of the year. It will be smaller than the IBM SSK. Layout looks funky IMO, but it's nice to see Unicomp doing something new, and a lot of people like tiny keyboards.

http://support.pckeyboard.com/PR/APR2014/