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Offline Vortex-JC

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White PBT double shot_red
« on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 08:38:54 »
Pt. 1

Red color.

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 09:11:32 »
PBT DS?
look rare usually PBT DYE/ABS DS
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 09:15:05 »
:/ if only they are double shot THICK pbt...
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 09:16:28 »
:/ if only they are double shot THICK pbt...

They look thick to me. Vortex really needs to change that font, though. Otherwise, it looks good.

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 09:16:48 »
they look pretty thick to me  :rolleyes:

they really need to get rid of that typeface though.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 09:17:11 »
:/ if only they are double shot THICK pbt...

They look thick to me. Vortex really needs to change that font, though. Otherwise, it looks good.

whoa we posted that at the same time.  :thumb:
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 09:54:22 »
Enormous font on the function keys is a big turn off.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 10:04:45 »
interesting  :p

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 10:06:47 »
I concur.....that font :(

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 10:21:31 »
PBT Doubleshots? AWESOME!
Dat font? Not so nice :/

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 10:22:51 »
Looks like the same font as the dye sub vortex pbt set from Feng's B and I must say that I ended up liking the font. I hesitated because of the font, but I still got them because they were thick pbt and at a nice price, but the font is also quite nice in real.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 10:25:44 »
Looks like the same font as the dye sub vortex pbt set from Feng's B and I must say that I ended up liking the font. I hesitated because of the font, but I still got them because they were thick pbt and at a nice price, but the font is also quite nice in real.

It's not so much the font in my personal issue with it. The individual letter keys and such are fine, quite nice even. It's that the usage on the function keys is larger, and the all caps on the rest of the 6-key and such are, in my opinion, abhorrent. The white and red look great, and I'm sure the quality is awesome, but those little things would nag at me so much.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 10:31:21 »
I don't understand why you'd choose to make moulds for this font.. Helvetica, Cherry replica.. ANYTHING would be better than this.

Vortex, you have cool ideas and you do innovative stuff, but often your execution is terrible. This is a prime example of that.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 10:43:03 »
I don't understand why you'd choose to make moulds for this font.. Helvetica, Cherry replica.. ANYTHING would be better than this.

Vortex, you have cool ideas and you do innovative stuff, but often your execution is terrible. This is a prime example of that.

Yeah, a simple "What is your favorite keycap font?" poll here and in the other KB forums would have been an easy way to check what people like.

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #14 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 10:55:23 »
Artistic choice?
... he's just a poor kid from the stupid ages.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 11:21:18 »
Artistic choice?

That's another way...
But if you wanna sell stuff, and make cash, tests/studies/surveys/probing, and actually producing what the customer wants, proved to work well.
Either that, or aggressive mind-washing advertizing and "trend setting" to make the people think that they want/need the product you offer :D
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 11:34:10 »
If they made this cherry font, pretty sure everyone here would pick up a set  :p

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 14:26:48 »
i like pbt, i like double shot. PBT double shot? awesome  :D
but the front  :rolleyes:

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 16:46:50 »
I don't mind the font so much, but the ESC looks pretty out of place.

Excited to see more DS PBT being made!

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 17:40:10 »
DS PBT Yes yes yes.

But please please please use Cherry font.

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 20:00:00 »
I wonder how they feel.
It seems to me that the red is not so well/uniformly welded/molded.
I may be wrong though.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 03:49:31 »
Very interesting

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 18 August 2013, 03:49:56 »
I don't mind the italic font, but the Esc does seem out of place, and F1-F12 would be better with a smaller font, and perhaps top-aligned like Prt Scr, Scroll Lock etc.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:38:03 »
Love the color not the font!

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:11:07 »
I actually like the font. Surprised to see everyone so dead set against it.

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:21:49 »
I actually like the font. Surprised to see everyone so dead set against it.

I like the font - you are not alone ;)
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 01:38:31 »
I actually like the font. Surprised to see everyone so dead set against it.

I like the font - you are not alone ;)

The font looks, as others have so accurately phrased it, sarcastic.  It's just grating to me.  I'm also not a fan of how much bigger the font is on the function row keys and how the legend placement is all over the place.  Function row?  We'll center it.  Alphas and numpad? The legend goes in the top left.  Arrow keys?  Even though it makes no sense, we'll do centered left. Home, End, Delete, Num Lock, etc?  Top and centered.  Modifiers?  Hey, it's a party that everyone is invited to!  We'll have some centered to the left, some completely centered, and some centered and to the top.

I want to like this cap set, but so much is going on and it's like it was decided by committee or parts of the set were delegated to different teams who had no clue what the others were doing.  In the end, it just makes for a bad looking cap set.

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 01:44:52 »
I actually like the font. Surprised to see everyone so dead set against it.

I like the font - you are not alone ;)

The font looks, as others have so accurately phrased it, sarcastic.  It's just grating to me.  I'm also not a fan of how much bigger the font is on the function row keys and how the legend placement is all over the place.  Function row?  We'll center it.  Alphas and numpad? The legend goes in the top left.  Arrow keys?  Even though it makes no sense, we'll do centered left. Home, End, Delete, Num Lock, etc?  Top and centered.  Modifiers?  Hey, it's a party that everyone is invited to!  We'll have some centered to the left, some completely centered, and some centered and to the top.

I want to like this cap set, but so much is going on and it's like it was decided by committee or parts of the set were delegated to different teams who had no clue what the others were doing.  In the end, it just makes for a bad looking cap set.

A Sarcastic keyset would be awesome!

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 01:49:11 »
I actually like the font. Surprised to see everyone so dead set against it.

I like the font - you are not alone ;)

The font looks, as others have so accurately phrased it, sarcastic.  It's just grating to me.  I'm also not a fan of how much bigger the font is on the function row keys and how the legend placement is all over the place.  Function row?  We'll center it.  Alphas and numpad? The legend goes in the top left.  Arrow keys?  Even though it makes no sense, we'll do centered left. Home, End, Delete, Num Lock, etc?  Top and centered.  Modifiers?  Hey, it's a party that everyone is invited to!  We'll have some centered to the left, some completely centered, and some centered and to the top.

I want to like this cap set, but so much is going on and it's like it was decided by committee or parts of the set were delegated to different teams who had no clue what the others were doing.  In the end, it just makes for a bad looking cap set.

A Sarcastic keyset would be awesome!

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 01:54:17 »
A sarcastic group buy full of sarcasm loving members would not be a pretty sight.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 05:15:24 »
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 12:18:31 »
Poor Vortex.

>Offers thick(ish) doubleshot PBT.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 12:19:51 »
A sarcastic group buy full of sarcasm loving members would not be a pretty sight.

^^ That's pretty much the normal around here isn't it?

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 20 August 2013, 17:33:07 »
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Nice extra colours :)

But the comments about the legends still stands - Esc and F-row are too big, and the others would be better centred vertically - especially num lock.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 25 August 2013, 16:59:01 »
It is good to see someone making double-shot PBT keycaps! However, I agree that before going to the trouble and expense of making molds for them, it would be good to conduct a survey to assess interest in specific fonts, point sizes, orientation of legends, and background colors and foreground (legend) colors.

Taking a look at some of the time-honored designs would be helpful, such as the keycap design on the venerable IBM Model M and the classic Cherry font, especially as implemented on the Olivetti and Dolch keyboards.

Regarding colors, because it is not possible to produce dye-sub PBT in a white on black keycap, it would be nice to do white on black double-shot PBT. It would also be good to have two-tone schemes available, such as the classic off-white (ivory) and beige with black legends, as used in classic keyboards such as the IBM Model M.

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 25 August 2013, 17:05:43 »
The font is very ugly to me -_-

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 25 August 2013, 17:33:55 »
Where can I get some of those sets!  I don't even care about the font--DS PBT <3  I love the feel of PBT and thick caps.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 25 August 2013, 17:45:01 »
The font is not bad, the only thing it kills it for me is the F row and Esc, they are huge!!!
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 25 August 2013, 22:28:33 »
vortex continues to use a hideous font.

will they ever learn?
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Offline JPG

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 25 August 2013, 22:51:55 »
It's really not hideous. I have a vortex dyesub set (seems a little different but close) and the font looks good in real. But I must approve that they could have done better, more so considering the trouble of making molds for Double shots.

But it's no reason to hate. Also, I suppose that if they can to double shots, they can do any color combination, so if I was them  the first thing I would do is do something else than a white base color since that's what's mostly used on dyesub because of the dyesub limitation.

I don't know what is their mock, but if it's much lower than GMK it would open up a lot of possibilities!
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 25 August 2013, 22:56:24 »
The font on my Filco yellow keycaps is kinda italic.  It grows on you, but I'm probably biased 'cause they are yellow keycaps.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 25 August 2013, 22:58:00 »
I don't mind the font at all.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 28 August 2013, 20:38:49 »
No more update? Very intrigued with the keycaps

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 29 August 2013, 06:58:12 »
Is there gonna eb a group buy for those? If they are thick, i would love one set of those. I never felt a PBT thick cap, never even tried normals, bt i will order normals shortly. Wonder how big the difference is. What's the price approximately gonna be?
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 29 August 2013, 17:31:40 »
please... fix... the... font.
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 29 August 2013, 17:59:03 »
The font is not bad, the only thing it kills it for me is the F row and Esc, they are huge!!!

Yeah I agree, the rest is tolerable, but the F row and Esc is too ridiculous.

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Offline Halvar

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 29 August 2013, 18:28:21 »
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Offline TheeCOoon

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 29 August 2013, 22:29:12 »
I want these keys!!!!!!!!!!!!

Offline concept73

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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 06 September 2013, 06:01:39 »
They look really nice, any chance of a set for 60% boards?
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Re: White PBT double shot_red
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 16 September 2013, 12:29:15 »
Whether you like it or not, massdrop does GB for these caps: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-keycaps

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