Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 11:16:00
Kindly continue discussion in the Feedback Thread for GON's KeyboardWorks: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83542.0
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It works well for Sherryton, so I figured GON could use one also.
1) Are your designs open for the public, or do you produce and sell only?
2) Do you have a case that works with Filco/Phantom keyboards?
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 May 2013, 11:52:33
1) My designs are not open. I produce and sell them as ordered.
2) Not yet. But if many members want it, I will consider. ;)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 24 May 2013, 12:05:12
Q: Gon how did you get started in keyboards?
Post by: keymaster on Fri, 24 May 2013, 12:50:40
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 12:56:16
Phantom/87-key acrylic case that can fit a QFR/Filco would be awesome.Those are looking like they're going to GB already. Cheaper Aluminum chassis would be nice.
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:25:33
Phantom 91-key case would be awesome!
Q: Gon how did you get started in keyboards?
About 15 years ago, I happen to get an almost new Leading Edge DC-3014 /w Alps Blue Sliders.
The feel of typing was awesome.
This was my first step to mechanical keyboards. ;)
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:26:50
Phantom/87-key acrylic case that can fit a QFR/Filco would be awesome.
Oh... sorry... I don't make any more high quality acrylic housings now. ;)
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:36:45
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:49:30
Do you write all your own English or do you use Google Translate or something? :P
I write my own English. I don't use google translation.
Anyway... English is not my native language. So, sometimes what I say would be a bit strange.
In that case, plz let me know the correct English. ;)
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:49:58
Do you write all your own English or do you use Google Translate or something? :P
I write my own English. I don't use google translation.
Anyway... English is not my native language. So, sometimes what I say would be a bit strange.
In that case, plz let me know the correct English expression. ;)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:50:51
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:51:09
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:54:40
GON, your English is great. Keep up the good work! I know if I went to OTD or KBD, I'd have very poor Korean and have to use Google Translate :D
Some translations from English to Korean by google are hard to understand even for a native Korean like me. ;)
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 May 2013, 13:57:14
Your English is a bit choppy, but VERY good compared to some of the English I've read. :) Some of your sentences don't quite flow, but the idea is there. The idea is more important than the flow of the sentence, in my opinion.
Thanks. ;)
I hope I could have a chance to improve my English a lot.
For example, staying in an English spoken country like the US, Canada or UK.
In fact, I have never been to such countries. Here lies the reason of my clumsy English. ;)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 24 May 2013, 15:41:39
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 May 2013, 15:59:14
Do you own all these CNC machines yourself, or do you have connections to shops that manufacture your designs for cheap? It seems like you can get prototypes made easily.
I don't have a high precision CNC machine. Nor am I a professional CNC machine operator.
I know what I should consider when designing housings or PCBs, but don't have enough time to do CAM and ARTWork myself.
So I place an order(s) to shops. However, I don't take all the manufacturing processes to one shop or directly shop-to-shop.
First I order CNC machining then I myself QC them. And send them to sand blasting factory, and then to anodizing company.
Even though I follow these steps, I cannot prevent all minor flaws like little scratches or unwanted pressings(?).
Quality is what I think is the most important.
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 24 May 2013, 16:07:01
Post by: Turbo Slaab on Fri, 24 May 2013, 16:08:00
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 May 2013, 16:10:17
I see. If you don't do prototypes inhouse yourself, then they must be very expensive for each of your new cases. I have a few 3D case designs, but getting the final prototype manufactured is between $500 - $1000+ :(
Yes, you are right.
But no time to do it myself.... :(
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 May 2013, 16:11:29
I think this was already asked, but will those GT cases fit a poker?
I'm afraid but I gotta tell you "No" as for now...
However, if many GH members want it, I will consider it. ;)
Post by: Turbo Slaab on Fri, 24 May 2013, 16:26:19
I think this was already asked, but will those GT cases fit a poker?
I'm afraid but I gotta tell you "No" as for now...
However, if many GH members want it, I will consider it. ;)
MANY GH members have pokers/gh60's and probably will buy the poker II. I'm pretty sure you will sell a lot!
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 May 2013, 16:50:26
I think this was already asked, but will those GT cases fit a poker?
I'm afraid but I gotta tell you "No" as for now...
However, if many GH members want it, I will consider it. ;)
MANY GH members have pokers/gh60's and probably will buy the poker II. I'm pretty sure you will sell a lot!
I think I gotta ask the members.
But they have to know... I have to try 4+ times of sampling to make it near to perfection. This takes much time...
As for GON NS 38GT, I made 5 times of sampling/prototyping, pouring a lot of time and effort...
I'm sure, however, this perfection is the joy not only to me as a designer but to everyone who gets my housing. ;)
Post by: Dubsgalore on Fri, 24 May 2013, 20:31:59
just from the pictures i have seen already, you make lovely work.
are you open for orders right now? or is there an estimated start date that we can order? :)
Dubs
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 May 2013, 22:42:54
GON,
just from the pictures i have seen already, you make lovely work.
are you open for orders right now? or is there an estimated start date that we can order? :)
Dubs
I don't do acrylic works now.
But you can order GON NS housings now.
I make it when ordered. So you can choose your own anodizing color of the housing you order. ;)
Post by: grips on Sun, 26 May 2013, 14:41:36
You have some very nice keyboards. I'm still very new to all of this, but I saw one of your tenkeyless cases (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/1058956/900/637/006/e07c7cf12f8667aa398bc37b468154dd.JPG) and I like it very much. Can you tell me what kind of PCB will fit?
Thank you
Post by: GON on Sun, 26 May 2013, 16:03:42
Hi GON,
You have some very nice keyboards. I'm still very new to all of this, but I saw one of your tenkeyless cases (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/files/attach/images/1058956/900/637/006/e07c7cf12f8667aa398bc37b468154dd.JPG) and I like it very much. Can you tell me what kind of PCB will fit?
Thank you
Hi grips,
A.87 and PS2AVR87 fit the housing(case) in your link. ;)
Post by: Sai on Sun, 26 May 2013, 20:23:22
Post by: GON on Sun, 26 May 2013, 20:52:44
do you have any pictures of fully assembled keyboard with that case ?
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/index.php?mid=photo&page=6&document_srl=6676317
This one would be the only one as for now. ;)
Post by: Sai on Sun, 26 May 2013, 21:09:26
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 29 May 2013, 05:18:56
do you have any pictures of fully assembled keyboard with that case ?
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/index.php?mid=photo&page=6&document_srl=6676317 (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/index.php?mid=photo&page=6&document_srl=6676317)
This one would be the only one as for now. ;)
The combination of Acrylic (I think it's plastic of some kind) with the Aluminum plate is sublime. From the pics it's so highly finished like it came out of a customized factory specializing in Keyboards.
I think I may buy one from you....... soon.
Post by: GON on Wed, 29 May 2013, 06:56:54
do you have any pictures of fully assembled keyboard with that case ?
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/index.php?mid=photo&page=6&document_srl=6676317 (http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/index.php?mid=photo&page=6&document_srl=6676317)
This one would be the only one as for now. ;)
The combination of Acrylic (I think it's plastic of some kind) with the Aluminum plate is sublime. From the pics it's so highly finished like it came out of a customized factory specializing in Keyboards.
I think I may buy one from you....... soon.
The mid part is PolyCarbonate, which is still more difficult for CNC machining than acrylic but has still much more durability!
Plastic bullet-proof glass is made of a kind of polycarbonate.
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 29 May 2013, 07:53:58
The mid part is PolyCarbonate, which is still more difficult for CNC machining than acrylic but has still much more durability!
Plastic bullet-proof glass is made of a kind of polycarbonate.
If you EVER decide on a Group Buy (not pushing here immediately) for a similar Polycarbonate/Aluminim casing, then I will sign up and pay for one.
I'll be happy with a small 60 or TKL setup...... in fact anything, as long as the design and execution of it is perfect just like in the photo's 8) .
Post by: Lastpilot on Wed, 29 May 2013, 13:22:09
Post by: GON on Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:26:28
Do you have any plans to create a full-size keyboard? Maybe 104 or 108 keys?
I don't have to make full-sized ones yet.
But who knows... if many want it. ;)
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 29 May 2013, 23:43:22
Do you have any plans to create a full-size keyboard? Maybe 104 or 108 keys?
I don't have to make full-sized ones yet.
But who knows... if many want it. ;)
Because you design keyboards to fit existing pcb's like Poker, Pure and such, why not design a Full size keyboard because they're much rarer than TKL's and 60%'s?
If it can fit a Filco, Cherry or Ducky pcb, then you may have a unique product to offer here on Geekhack. If you are the FIRST to offer a brand new case to fit existing keyboards I think a lot of interest and money may come your way.
I've seen your work and it's as close to perfection as it gets, hence why not expand it to offer FULL-size love for TENKEY enthusiasts.
Post by: GON on Thu, 30 May 2013, 01:28:22
Do you have any plans to create a full-size keyboard? Maybe 104 or 108 keys?
I don't have to make full-sized ones yet.
But who knows... if many want it. ;)
Because you design keyboards to fit existing pcb's like Poker, Pure and such, why not design a Full size keyboard because they're much rarer than TKL's and 60%'s?
If it can fit a Filco, Cherry or Ducky pcb, then you may have a unique product to offer here on Geekhack. If you are the FIRST to offer a brand new case to fit existing keyboards I think a lot of interest and money may come your way.
I've seen your work and it's as close to perfection as it gets, hence why not expand it to offer FULL-size love for TENKEY enthusiasts.
When designing a case, so many factors should be taken into consideration.
The reason I don't make full-size is... to make it, stiffer material is needed if I will make a beautiful design.
With current materials, to make a full-sized one is a bit risky or have to bear some disadvantages.
The only case that I made for stock keyboards was for PokerX.
Not not now. GON NS 38GT fits 38GT PCB, not PokerX.
When a custom PCB is designed, designability for its case is considered together. But stock PCBs aren't.
Too many barriers to make a beautiful case with stock PCBs.
(Another reason is, for now it's very very easy to get a custom PCB with good functions. No reason to build with stock PCB that does not support key remapping and other useful functions.)
I think, what I make should be beautiful so that others can believe my Works will be great just because GON made it.
(Of course I made some ugly ones too because customers wanted me to make so.)
If a good full-sized custom PCB is introduced, then I will consider to design it. ;)
I won't make it rather than I make an ugly one. ;)
Who knows? I might someday in the future introduce you a new custom PCB for Full-sized keyboards with its case. ;)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 30 May 2013, 01:35:51
Do you have any plans to create a full-size keyboard? Maybe 104 or 108 keys?
Full size is not as popular on GH or Korean forums. If not many gets sold, then price for each one is higher. And cost for material and manufacturing costs are also higher since it's larger.
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 30 May 2013, 01:41:31
Price difference wouldn't be too large. £20 extra for aluminium and not very much for machining. I seriously doubt it would add more than $50 and considering it'll be a $400+ keyboard anyway it isn't too much to add.Do you have any plans to create a full-size keyboard? Maybe 104 or 108 keys?
Full size is not as popular on GH or Korean forums. If not many gets sold, then price for each one is higher. And cost for material and manufacturing costs are also higher since it's larger.
Also, just because it's less popular doesn't mean it'll sell less. I guarantee there are quite a lot of people who have been waiting for a full size custom and would jump on any opportunity to get one.
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 30 May 2013, 01:43:55
Price difference wouldn't be too large. £20 extra for aluminium and not very much for machining. I seriously doubt it would add more than $50 and considering it'll be a $400+ keyboard anyway it isn't too much to add.Do you have any plans to create a full-size keyboard? Maybe 104 or 108 keys?
Full size is not as popular on GH or Korean forums. If not many gets sold, then price for each one is higher. And cost for material and manufacturing costs are also higher since it's larger.
Also, just because it's less popular doesn't mean it'll sell less. I guarantee there are quite a lot of people who have been waiting for a full size custom and would jump on any opportunity to get one.
Typically people who want a fullsized are going to be using it in an office. Is someone really going to pay $400+ to bring a keyboard to work over a TKL and a number pad?
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 30 May 2013, 05:47:47
I think, what I make should be beautiful so that others can believe my Works will be great just because GON made it.
(Of course I made some ugly ones too because customers wanted me to make so.)
If a good full-sized custom PCB is introduced, then I will consider to design it. ;)
I won't make it rather than I make an ugly one. ;)
Totally understandable. Design integrity has to shine through.
If no Full size keyboard will be done, how about one of your unique 60% designs for Geekhackers here?
You choose the material, Polycarbonate, Acrylic, Aluminum, Stainless Steel, maybe even a Lacquered Wood Veneer?
Post by: GON on Thu, 30 May 2013, 09:20:31
I think, what I make should be beautiful so that others can believe my Works will be great just because GON made it.
(Of course I made some ugly ones too because customers wanted me to make so.)
If a good full-sized custom PCB is introduced, then I will consider to design it. ;)
I won't make it rather than I make an ugly one. ;)
Totally understandable. Design integrity has to shine through.
If no Full size keyboard will be done, how about one of your unique 60% designs for Geekhackers here?
You choose the material, Polycarbonate, Acrylic, Aluminum, Stainless Steel, maybe even a Lacquered Wood Veneer?
I will make a case for GH60 later. ;)
But nothing decided yet.
Post by: mauri on Thu, 30 May 2013, 16:49:38
(http://imageshack.us/a/img856/2586/1368114973526.gif)
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 30 May 2013, 16:50:31
Post by: grips on Thu, 30 May 2013, 17:31:03
Should make more 75% boards :O
I agree :D
Post by: rurushu on Tue, 04 June 2013, 01:41:49
do you have some comparison pictures that can contrast the difference between the three glaring options?
Post by: GON on Tue, 04 June 2013, 02:24:19
In the picture... most of them are semi-glare.
And red on, the third from the GON NS 38GT Pink is non-glare, and the red one /w red bolts is a glare one.
But its hard to distinguish in the picture...
And, even though you choose semi-glare, it sometimes comes out more like non-glare or full-glare.
Anodizing is very hard to make all the same at anytime...
But this little arbitrariness makes my customers' cases Unique. ;)
(Hard to find exactly the same ones...)
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 04 June 2013, 02:28:16
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 04 June 2013, 03:10:53
Functionally, it won't make a difference since they're mounted on plates, but it'll still reflect higher quality and a more rigid PCB.
Post by: rurushu on Tue, 04 June 2013, 03:12:12
(Attachment Link)
In the picture... most of them are semi-glare.
And red on, the third from the GON NS 38GT Pink is non-glare, and the red one /w red bolts is a glare one.
But its hard to distinguish in the picture...
And, even though you choose semi-glare, it sometimes comes out more like non-glare or full-glare.
Anodizing is very hard to make all the same at anytime...
But this little arbitrariness makes my customers' cases Unique. ;)
(Hard to find exactly the same ones...)
I see... that is really nice when the color have a little inconsistencies, this makes no case the same!! XD
Thanks for the info GON!!!
Post by: GON on Tue, 04 June 2013, 07:57:51
Here's a question. Was there a large price difference in getting a thin PCB manufactured? I have a few PCBs from different batches, and they're noticeable thinner and bend more compared to other Korean PCBs or our inhouse Phantom, ergo-dox, and GH60 PCBs. If it doesn't cost too much, have them made thicker or up your specifications on future batches?
Functionally, it won't make a difference since they're mounted on plates, but it'll still reflect higher quality and a more rigid PCB.
Well... Experienced designers consider the specific material of the Housing, Plate, PCB.
There are a variety of materials: AL10xx, AL20xx, AL50,xx, AL60xx, AL70xx, PC, Carbon, Steel alloys...
They all feel slightly different even with the same PCB.
(Of course some PCBs make little difference, and this is one of the factors the designer considers when designing a Keyboard.)
It's the designers will which feel he would like to make with which materials. ;)
Have you tried CEM-3 PCBs?
If you do, you will be able to find it feels much different from FR-4 PCBs.
Typing feel is not a simple matter. Quite complicated... ;)
Post by: Wraul on Tue, 04 June 2013, 11:48:21
(Attachment Link)
In the picture... most of them are semi-glare.
And red on, the third from the GON NS 38GT Pink is non-glare, and the red one /w red bolts is a glare one.
But its hard to distinguish in the picture...
And, even though you choose semi-glare, it sometimes comes out more like non-glare or full-glare.
Anodizing is very hard to make all the same at anytime...
But this little arbitrariness makes my customers' cases Unique. ;)
(Hard to find exactly the same ones...)
Your cases are amazing.
I hope they will be available for a while, so I can save enough money to buy one.
I have one question.
That black 38GT in the middle column.
It must have a special purpose. May I ask what it's for?
Post by: GON on Tue, 04 June 2013, 13:31:44
(Attachment Link)
In the picture... most of them are semi-glare.
And red on, the third from the GON NS 38GT Pink is non-glare, and the red one /w red bolts is a glare one.
But its hard to distinguish in the picture...
And, even though you choose semi-glare, it sometimes comes out more like non-glare or full-glare.
Anodizing is very hard to make all the same at anytime...
But this little arbitrariness makes my customers' cases Unique. ;)
(Hard to find exactly the same ones...)
Your cases are amazing.
I hope they will be available for a while, so I can save enough money to buy one.
I have one question.
That black 38GT in the middle column.
It must have a special purpose. May I ask what it's for?
Well, that question should be asked to my customer, not me. ;)
I think he would use it as a specialized gaming controller.
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 04 June 2013, 13:35:07
Post by: Wraul on Tue, 04 June 2013, 14:06:44
Well, that question should be asked to my customer, not me. ;)
I think he would use it as a specialized gaming controller.
Ok I see. Thank you.
It looks very interesting.
Post by: emptythecache on Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:42:25
(Attachment Link)
In the picture... most of them are semi-glare.
And red on, the third from the GON NS 38GT Pink is non-glare, and the red one /w red bolts is a glare one.
But its hard to distinguish in the picture...
And, even though you choose semi-glare, it sometimes comes out more like non-glare or full-glare.
Anodizing is very hard to make all the same at anytime...
But this little arbitrariness makes my customers' cases Unique. ;)
(Hard to find exactly the same ones...)
what is the blue 75% housing in the bottom left? It looks like it may be for a MX-Mini, but the modifier row has weird wide holes.
Post by: GON on Wed, 05 June 2013, 20:34:36
(Attachment Link)
In the picture... most of them are semi-glare.
And red on, the third from the GON NS 38GT Pink is non-glare, and the red one /w red bolts is a glare one.
But its hard to distinguish in the picture...
And, even though you choose semi-glare, it sometimes comes out more like non-glare or full-glare.
Anodizing is very hard to make all the same at anytime...
But this little arbitrariness makes my customers' cases Unique. ;)
(Hard to find exactly the same ones...)
what is the blue 75% housing in the bottom left? It looks like it may be for a MX-Mini, but the modifier row has weird wide holes.
Yes that's for MX-MINI.
The bottom holes for compatibility.
This housing can fit MX-MINI Winkeyless and PS2AVR MX-MINI(Winkey/winkeyless Combo).
The bottoms hole design is due to "one-fits-all" purpose.
GON
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 06 June 2013, 02:23:36
One thing I can't do for custom keyboards is programming from scratch. I think you'll have to make a guide on this since it seems more people are starting to get more of your PCBs/housing. Anyone on GH (excluding GON of course) have a fully built ps2avr that can comment, or am I the first?
Post by: emptythecache on Thu, 06 June 2013, 05:11:45
Post by: Wraul on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:39:11
How do we program your PCBs?
One thing I can't do for custom keyboards is programming from scratch. I think you'll have to make a guide on this since it seems more people are starting to get more of your PCBs/housing. Anyone on GH (excluding GON of course) have a fully built ps2avr that can comment, or am I the first?
I have not had time too look into this yet.
But I assume you would use the ISP header and a compatible programmer.
Not sure which firmware you should use though.
Would be cool if GON can provide a little info concerning this.
Post by: GON on Thu, 06 June 2013, 09:42:49
How do we program your PCBs?Show Image(http://geekhack.org/data:image/gif;base64,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)
One thing I can't do for custom keyboards is programming from scratch. I think you'll have to make a guide on this since it seems more people are starting to get more of your PCBs/housing. Anyone on GH (excluding GON of course) have a fully built ps2avr that can comment, or am I the first?
I think you would be the first one who build a keyboard with that PCB.
I can give you a link. But the explanation is in Korean.
You have to encode a keymap/firmware file and write it with ISP loader.
http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/data/5953500
And that is not my PCB but 괴수가면 designed it.
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 06 June 2013, 12:07:28
Post by: GON on Thu, 06 June 2013, 12:22:24
Thanks for the link. It shows the maxtrix and has precompiled firmware to download. But how do I flash the firmware onto the controller using the ISP header?
It depends on your ISP loader.
You will have to study to use it. ;)
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 06 June 2013, 19:18:42
Post by: Hades on Wed, 12 June 2013, 22:35:38
Post by: GON on Wed, 12 June 2013, 22:56:58
Can a 38GT support a winkeyless setup, i.e., a "1.5 / 1 / 1.5 / 7 / 1.5 / 1 / 1.5" bottom row?
No, only standard winkey layout is supported at the bottom row. ;)
Post by: Sai on Thu, 13 June 2013, 09:08:19
http://ysymidi.blog.me/10127492530
i saw in Zenuty's thread.
Post by: GON on Thu, 13 June 2013, 12:34:51
GON, is this just your personal one ?
http://ysymidi.blog.me/10127492530
i saw in Zenuty's thread.
That's not mine.
I tuned it up on order. ;)
Some guy may be using that keyboard. ;)
Post by: Sai on Thu, 13 June 2013, 20:51:38
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 03:32:59
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 18 June 2013, 03:41:25
Post by: MKULTRA on Tue, 18 June 2013, 04:10:22
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 18 June 2013, 04:22:07
Also can I buy a preflashed loose atmega controller chip from you?
Post by: GON on Tue, 18 June 2013, 23:55:52
What resistor package size do we get for the switch LEDs?
Also can I buy a preflashed loose atmega controller chip from you?
Most frequently used SMD size in Korean CUSTOM is 2012(metric).
Answer to the second question depends on which preflashed Controller chips you need. ;)
Post by: The_Beast on Wed, 19 June 2013, 00:04:43
Post by: GON on Wed, 19 June 2013, 02:03:17
You may not know, but I bought an A.87 with nothing soldered to it (similar to WFD), how to I get it to work since I'm not sure I can just plug it in and load firmware to it like a phantom. I'm not very good with software stuff :(
The paradox lying here is....
Even though I burn chips with firmware, shipping is at least $24 to the US... too high just for a chip.... ;(
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 19 June 2013, 19:53:14
Even though I burn chips with firmware, shipping is at least $24 to the US... too high just for a chip.... ;(
I know it's a fixed shipping rate like everywhere else so does it mean he has to purchase something else to help make that $24.00USD more palatable?
I would get an extra pcb and/or plate bundled with that chip...... just my own personnel 'stupid' recommendation here.
Post by: GON on Wed, 19 June 2013, 21:44:12
Even though I burn chips with firmware, shipping is at least $24 to the US... too high just for a chip.... ;(
I know it's a fixed shipping rate like everywhere else so does it mean he has to purchase something else to help make that $24.00USD more palatable?
I would get an extra pcb and/or plate bundled with that chip...... just my own personnel 'stupid' recommendation here.
Yes, I think $24 shipping just for "x"g small chip is too high for a buyer.
For me, it doesn't matter, but for a buyer, I think, it matters...
Post by: Poom on Tue, 25 June 2013, 07:19:17
I am looking to try Ergo clear switches, but im a noob with modding and stuff.
How does it work? I send you all the stuff? or I can buy stuff from you, stuff as in springs, switches, boards etc.
i am also looking to get a new board, not modding mine own ones. how do i start? you have any recommendations? maybe you have board for sale, switches and all the rest? just not a full size.
My girlfriend is in Seoul, so shipping stuff isnt a problem.
Thanks, Poom
Post by: GON on Tue, 25 June 2013, 07:42:24
Hi Gon,
I am looking to try Ergo clear switches, but im a noob with modding and stuff.
How does it work? I send you all the stuff? or I can buy stuff from you, stuff as in springs, switches, boards etc.
i am also looking to get a new board, not modding mine own ones. how do i start? you have any recommendations? maybe you have board for sale, switches and all the rest? just not a full size.
My girlfriend is in Seoul, so shipping stuff isnt a problem.
Thanks, Poom
You can buy from me almost everything you need to build a keyboard yourself. ;)
PM me for further discussion.
Thanks,
GON
Post by: zoolzoo on Sun, 24 November 2013, 14:53:21
Post by: Patchwrks on Mon, 25 November 2013, 12:42:42
Post by: pmh1410 on Wed, 27 November 2013, 06:36:59
Can a 38GT support a winkeyless setup, i.e., a "1.5 / 1 / 1.5 / 7 / 1.5 / 1 / 1.5" bottom row?
No, only standard winkey layout is supported at the bottom row. ;)
is it possible to get a NS 38 with 1.5/1/1.5 7 1.5/1/1.5 bottom row?
is it possible to get a NS 38 with 1.5/1/1.5 7 1.5/1/1.5 bottom row?
Can a 38GT support a winkeyless setup, i.e., a "1.5 / 1 / 1.5 / 7 / 1.5 / 1 / 1.5" bottom row?
No, only standard winkey layout is supported at the bottom row. ;)
Gon was answer about this problem :)
Post by: Patchwrks on Thu, 28 November 2013, 00:51:32
Can a 38GT support a winkeyless setup, i.e., a "1.5 / 1 / 1.5 / 7 / 1.5 / 1 / 1.5" bottom row?
No, only standard winkey layout is supported at the bottom row. ;)is it possible to get a NS 38 with 1.5/1/1.5 7 1.5/1/1.5 bottom row?is it possible to get a NS 38 with 1.5/1/1.5 7 1.5/1/1.5 bottom row?Can a 38GT support a winkeyless setup, i.e., a "1.5 / 1 / 1.5 / 7 / 1.5 / 1 / 1.5" bottom row?
No, only standard winkey layout is supported at the bottom row. ;)
Gon was answer about this problem :)
yes after reading i felt dumb :P
Post by: joneslee85 on Fri, 27 December 2013, 05:43:04
I would like to ask:
1) How could I reprogram 38GT PCB? I am new to this board and so lost with many found results on this forum
2) Would you be able to design a board with SMD LED instead of normal LED?
Really appreciate if you could reply. Thanks
Post by: Jokrik on Tue, 07 January 2014, 00:21:30
I've been looking for him :(
Post by: nuclearsandwich on Tue, 07 January 2014, 00:48:40
Dear GON
I would like to ask:
1) How could I reprogram 38GT PCB? I am new to this board and so lost with many found results on this forum
2) Would you be able to design a board with SMD LED instead of normal LED?
Really appreciate if you could reply. Thanks
Yo Joneslee, I just went through the programming a couple of days ago with help from codyeatsworld. I'll PM you the relevant bits of the skype conversation or if you want realtime PM me your skype info and timezone.
Post by: Jokrik on Fri, 10 January 2014, 08:46:33
does anyone know where has he gone?
I've a project which he hold and I haven't heard back from him for a while
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 10 January 2014, 11:52:43
GON
Post by: LONGZILLA on Fri, 10 January 2014, 12:32:12
I guess you could say he's...
GON
(http://i.imgur.com/SanmR2k.gif)
Seriously,
does anyone know where has he gone?
I've a project which he hold and I haven't heard back from him for a while
Looks like GON posted on OTD not too long ago, [url]http://www.otd.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=album&wr_id=181239[url]
Post by: LONGZILLA on Fri, 10 January 2014, 12:32:33
Post by: digi on Fri, 10 January 2014, 15:17:50
Post by: Jokrik on Sat, 11 January 2014, 20:57:41
Hope he's all fine...
Post by: GON on Mon, 13 January 2014, 17:27:12
Been trying to reach him since the start of the year
Hope he's all fine...
He usually takes a day or two to respond to a pm, but he did respond to mine a couple weeks back, fwiw.
Sorry guys. I made you worried.
I was too busy these days. So I could not even reply PMs.
But don't worry. All is fine with me. ;;)
Post by: Neal on Sun, 19 January 2014, 17:47:58
Post by: jufa on Sun, 19 January 2014, 18:11:53
Post by: Moosecraft on Fri, 31 January 2014, 09:41:34
Post by: GON on Sun, 02 February 2014, 08:20:52
Do you have pcb mounted switches?
Stop by my website
www.GONsKeyboardworks.com
You may be able to find them there. ;)
Post by: 1pq on Sun, 02 February 2014, 13:25:26
Post by: Moosecraft on Sun, 02 February 2014, 14:32:11
Post by: GON on Sun, 02 February 2014, 22:26:12
How would I do for ordering a different switch for spacebar?
Add a comment when you place an order at my website. ;)
Post by: GON on Sun, 02 February 2014, 22:27:28
If I sent you used clear stems, would you use those instead of new clear stems for a custom board?
No problem. ;)
Post by: 1pq on Sun, 02 February 2014, 22:33:47
If I sent you used clear stems, would you use those instead of new clear stems for a custom board?
No problem. ;)
Sweet! After I wear in some clears, I might send the stems to you and ask you to do a custom ergo clear with them. It'll take me a couple weeks to get them fully worn down though. I've got an elaborate stem-switching plan to place the least worn stems on the colemak homerow to wear them out. Hopefully it should work out well ;)
Post by: naasfu on Thu, 20 March 2014, 15:39:12
I've been starting to really want a good programmable board, and so I just started to do some research, but I'm still quite lost. I would like to be able to fully remap all keys for several Fn layers, and also being able to experiment with dual-role keys (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41685.0) would be a nice plus.
What are the programming capabilities for GON's NerD TKL? Are we able to configure which keys act as the Fn keys, or are those hardcoded to specific keys on the board? Also, what is the name of the controller for this board, or is it something specific that GON's PCB uses? I ask because I'm curious whether I'd be able to play with custom firmwares like the ones that Hasu has been developing. If anyone can please point me to some instructions/utilities/thread for programming the NerD TKL that I could take a look at, that would help out a lot.
What are the main differences between GON's NS 87 and NerD TKL? The one thing I noticed that the NerD supports both side and switch LEDs at the same time.
As long as the programmability is there, I'm really leaning towards trying one of GON's NerD TKL boards. GON's boards just look beautiful, I am a sucker for shiny LEDs, and I've read a lot of praise from GHers from my searches.
Hope GON or someone else can please help me out with my noob questions. Thanks! :thumb:
Post by: GON on Fri, 21 March 2014, 11:11:49
Hey GON and GON fans! :))
I've been starting to really want a good programmable board, and so I just started to do some research, but I'm still quite lost. I would like to be able to fully remap all keys for several Fn layers, and also being able to experiment with dual-role keys (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41685.0) would be a nice plus.
What are the programming capabilities for GON's NerD TKL? Are we able to configure which keys act as the Fn keys, or are those hardcoded to specific keys on the board? Also, what is the name of the controller for this board, or is it something specific that GON's PCB uses? I ask because I'm curious whether I'd be able to play with custom firmwares like the ones that Hasu has been developing. If anyone can please point me to some instructions/utilities/thread for programming the NerD TKL that I could take a look at, that would help out a lot.
What are the main differences between GON's NS 87 and NerD TKL? The one thing I noticed that the NerD supports both side and switch LEDs at the same time.
As long as the programmability is there, I'm really leaning towards trying one of GON's NerD TKL boards. GON's boards just look beautiful, I am a sucker for shiny LEDs, and I've read a lot of praise from GHers from my searches.
Hope GON or someone else can please help me out with my noob questions. Thanks! :thumb:
Hi naasfu,
Here is an introduction for NerD TKL
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs/60-nerd-tkl-by-gon.html
NerD uses NerD controller, it has been developed by me. So the controller is only implemented on NerD PCBs.
NerD has 1 Normal Layer + 2 Fn Layers that user can edit, 3 layers in total.
NS87s were assembled PS2AVR PCBs, and now discontinued.
I assemble GON NS NerD TKL as a substitute, which has more powerful functions.
Powerful and Easy(Really easy...) H/W Macro is one of the best advantages of NerD.
And you will be able to find many other advantages...
But one thing, it will take about 2-3 months for me to release NerDy GUI.
Users need NerDy GUI to edit keymaps.
Post by: naasfu on Fri, 21 March 2014, 22:05:25
Hey GON and GON fans! :))
I've been starting to really want a good programmable board, and so I just started to do some research, but I'm still quite lost. I would like to be able to fully remap all keys for several Fn layers, and also being able to experiment with dual-role keys (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41685.0) would be a nice plus.
What are the programming capabilities for GON's NerD TKL? Are we able to configure which keys act as the Fn keys, or are those hardcoded to specific keys on the board? Also, what is the name of the controller for this board, or is it something specific that GON's PCB uses? I ask because I'm curious whether I'd be able to play with custom firmwares like the ones that Hasu has been developing. If anyone can please point me to some instructions/utilities/thread for programming the NerD TKL that I could take a look at, that would help out a lot.
What are the main differences between GON's NS 87 and NerD TKL? The one thing I noticed that the NerD supports both side and switch LEDs at the same time.
As long as the programmability is there, I'm really leaning towards trying one of GON's NerD TKL boards. GON's boards just look beautiful, I am a sucker for shiny LEDs, and I've read a lot of praise from GHers from my searches.
Hope GON or someone else can please help me out with my noob questions. Thanks! :thumb:
Hi naasfu,
Here is an introduction for NerD TKL
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs/60-nerd-tkl-by-gon.html
NerD uses NerD controller, it has been developed by me. So the controller is only implemented on NerD PCBs.
NerD has 1 Normal Layer + 2 Fn Layers that user can edit, 3 layers in total.
NS87s were assembled PS2AVR PCBs, and now discontinued.
I assemble GON NS NerD TKL as a substitute, which has more powerful functions.
Powerful and Easy(Really easy...) H/W Macro is one of the best advantages of NerD.
And you will be able to find many other advantages...
But one thing, it will take about 2-3 months for me to release NerDy GUI.
Users need NerDy GUI to edit keymaps.
Thank you GON for the quick and helpful response! :thumb:
Will we be able to configure the keys that are used to activate each of the two Fn layers? For example, to activate Fn layer #1, can I choose the right Windows key, or left Windows key, or the "Fn" key next to right Shift, etc?
Post by: stancato9 on Wed, 26 March 2014, 17:31:46
Post by: GON on Fri, 28 March 2014, 12:12:22
Hey GON, I can't find it on your site, but is there the option to purchase a keyboard without the switches?
Yes, you can buy Parts only without assembly. ;)
You can order NerD TKL PCB + Housing only(or + extra parts/accessories)
Post by: hokeymons on Sat, 05 April 2014, 21:44:20
Post by: abtrout on Sun, 06 April 2014, 03:39:04
1. Is the top actually a plate -- so do I have to use plate mount switches?
2. Do all the anodizing options come with those big metal feet?
Post by: GON on Tue, 08 April 2014, 10:41:21
I noticed the GON NS 38 PCB was put back up, and was wondering if it came with the controller SMD parts already soldered on, or do we need to get them separately.
All PCBs I sell at www.GONsKeyboardworks.com come with Controller Parts Soldered/Firmware Flashed and Tested by me. ;)
Post by: GON on Tue, 08 April 2014, 10:43:52
Hi Gon. I have two questions about the HS GH60 case.
1. Is the top actually a plate -- so do I have to use plate mount switches?
2. Do all the anodizing options come with those big metal feet?
1. The Top is its plate but you don't have to use plate mount switches, because I have never seen a CUSTOM pcb not compatible with PCB mount Switches.
(38GT PCBs are compatible with both plate mount and pcb mount switches.
2. Yes anodizing is applied also on the 2 aluminium feet.
Post by: abtrout on Tue, 08 April 2014, 11:30:43
Post by: Blackehart on Thu, 17 April 2014, 21:45:07
What is the turnaround for a gon ns 87 assembled?
Thanks,
-Blacke
Post by: noctoocto on Fri, 18 April 2014, 00:15:17
What is the turnaround for a gon ns 87 assembled?
According to his site, it should around 4-10 weeks.
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/content/1-lead-time-and-delivery
Post by: archer on Fri, 18 April 2014, 09:55:36
What is the turnaround for a gon ns 87 assembled?
According to his site, it should around 4-10 weeks.
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/content/1-lead-time-and-delivery
And I don't think GON is making ns 87's anymore.. I believe he's only making NerD 87s now ;)
Post by: GON on Fri, 18 April 2014, 10:48:00
What is the turnaround for a gon ns 87 assembled?
According to his site, it should around 4-10 weeks.
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/content/1-lead-time-and-delivery
And I don't think GON is making ns 87's anymore.. I believe he's only making NerD 87s now ;)
Right. ;)
NerD TKL is similar to NS 87.
But it's more optimized for NS housings.
And buyer can get direct technical support from me, because I myself designed/artworked the NerDs. ;)
Post by: Blackehart on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:07:21
Post by: GON on Fri, 18 April 2014, 11:25:02
I'm curious, any chance you could expedite a build for a fee?
If I had any free time for myself, I would like to do so.
But I don't now. As for now, I have to assemble first come first serve in order. ;)
If I expedite an order for a fee now, it would not be fair to others, because I would have to spend "time for other orders."
So sorry not to give you a good and helpful answer.
Post by: tbc on Sat, 19 April 2014, 17:39:10
Post by: GON on Sun, 20 April 2014, 23:22:21
What is the 'dimming' mode for the mx-mini? is that the same thing as the 'breathing' mode for the shine 3? or does it mean that the level of brightness is adjustable?
Including breathing, it has some other LED modes. ;)
Dimming is "slowly being turned off if there's no input".
Post by: SeeThruHead on Tue, 22 April 2014, 07:21:09
How much would it cost me to have a Black anodized Mx - Mini Board shipped to Canada..
Would need PCB, Case, Switches, Leds for in switches and side leds (red) and resistors. Also stabilizers. Red switch stickers.
I can do all soldering and assembly myself. Just need all components.
Post by: Kildras on Tue, 22 April 2014, 09:37:11
I am super noob (chobo T T) in custom keyboard and thinking to get an assembled Nerd TKL.
I was browsing and saw this photo:
(http://i.imgur.com/VpEgG5v.jpg)
I am wondering how do I choose from the option menu on the website or is that like a super special version?
if yes, then can I select the colour for the Acrylic part as well as the 2 layers colour on top?
thanks :D
Post by: b7ad on Thu, 24 April 2014, 12:43:59
Post by: GON on Fri, 25 April 2014, 07:43:51
Hello gon! I'm having trouble using your website. Every page takes upwards of 45 seconds to load.
How much would it cost me to have a Black anodized Mx - Mini Board shipped to Canada..
Would need PCB, Case, Switches, Leds for in switches and side leds (red) and resistors. Also stabilizers. Red switch stickers.
I can do all soldering and assembly myself. Just need all components.
I think I have to upgrade my hosting server. ;(
I have to calculate it too.
You can get everything except for optional switch springs at the site.
I think it would cost about 300(?) USD? Not sure, just guessing...
Post by: GON on Fri, 25 April 2014, 07:50:13
Hi guys,
I am super noob (chobo T T) in custom keyboard and thinking to get an assembled Nerd TKL.
I was browsing and saw this photo:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VpEgG5v.jpg)
I am wondering how do I choose from the option menu on the website or is that like a super special version?
if yes, then can I select the colour for the Acrylic part as well as the 2 layers colour on top?
thanks :D
Unfortunately, no, Acrylic Housing at www.GONsKeyboardworks.com is different from your picture.
Housing at my site is simplified form. It doesn't have double layer construction for its top.
To make the housing in your link, Bonding, Tapping and Sand-Paper work are needed. It's hell lol~ I will never do that again. sorry...
Guys who have my Masterpiece Acrylic Housings /w hell-work are lucky guys...
Post by: GON on Fri, 25 April 2014, 12:22:08
Does anyone have a 'default' .map file for a GON NS 38 GT? Had some troubles mapping.
Get this.
http://gofile.me/2vXKG/1pl3UpnP
;)
It will be open for a week.
Post by: pasph on Fri, 25 April 2014, 15:15:57
The bare pcb comes with some preloaded key map?
Post by: GON on Sat, 26 April 2014, 03:54:42
How your new Nerd keyboards can be programmed in the meantime you develop a gui?
The bare pcb comes with some preloaded key map?
Sure, default keymap is loaded so that users can do everything with NerD just except for changing keymap.
With CLI, LED mod change and H/W Macro management are still available.
Post by: pasph on Sat, 26 April 2014, 04:10:48
When do you think the gui will be ready?
Post by: GON on Sat, 26 April 2014, 06:03:09
What's CLI?
When do you think the gui will be ready?
CLI = Command Line Interface
A Configuration Software running on Command Prompt Base.
GUI will be released at around the end of this spring. ;)
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 06 May 2014, 13:40:43
Post by: cannonking on Wed, 07 May 2014, 00:32:53
Hi GON, will you release a NerD version for MX-Mini anytime soon?I want one too!
Post by: cseng on Mon, 12 May 2014, 03:24:39
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sat, 17 May 2014, 11:30:06
Post by: Pacifist on Tue, 20 May 2014, 19:19:21
Post by: GON on Tue, 20 May 2014, 19:32:15
Hi GON, will you release a NerD version for MX-Mini anytime soon?
I don't think I will release MX-MINI version of NerD soon. ;)
Post by: GON on Tue, 20 May 2014, 19:33:55
Is it going to cost me extra if I want matching colors on the screw bolts for Nerd TKL and LED under the ESC key?
For NS NerD TKL, colored bolts are default option. ;)
(This is because the housing dimension(Housing thickness) is exactly adjusted for color bolts that I have in stock.)
Post by: GON on Tue, 20 May 2014, 19:34:50
I started adding LED's to my board, i added 4 before adding more. Do you have to turn on LED's or are they on by default? How do i turn them on? maybe i bought something wrong? :(
I solved your problem at another post. ;)
Fn + Caps Lock
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 20 May 2014, 19:37:07
shame. can you list the differences between the NerD and the older PS2AVR?Hi GON, will you release a NerD version for MX-Mini anytime soon?
I don't think I will release MX-MINI version of NerD soon. ;)
Post by: GON on Tue, 20 May 2014, 23:06:49
shame. can you list the differences between the NerD and the older PS2AVR?Hi GON, will you release a NerD version for MX-Mini anytime soon?
I don't think I will release MX-MINI version of NerD soon. ;)
You can find spec of each controller - NerD and PS2AVR
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/8-pcbs
They are different controllers.
Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 21 May 2014, 01:32:31
- what are the different Shift and Backspace layouts?
- can you provide MX Whites instead of the more standard switches?
Post by: GON on Wed, 21 May 2014, 05:06:29
seems like the NerD is quite surperior to the PS2AVR, especially in regards with LED lghts and customizing key maps. a couple more questions:
- what are the different Shift and Backspace layouts?
- can you provide MX Whites instead of the more standard switches?
On supported layouts, Refer to product info below
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/custom-kbds-w-assembly/66-gon-ns-nerd-tkl-w-tuningassembly.html
I don't have plan to provide Whites because just a few want that switch. I can't stock all kinds of switches...
Post by: whentheclouds on Wed, 21 May 2014, 09:52:52
thanks for being patient, i'm still relatively new to custom keyboards and have yet to grasp all the little nuisances
Post by: GON on Thu, 22 May 2014, 02:59:55
sorry, i'm asking about the difference between, for example, 2.25 left shift vs 1.25+1. it isn't very apparent to me from looking at the pictures, nor can i find similar layouts on the internet for comparison
thanks for being patient, i'm still relatively new to custom keyboards and have yet to grasp all the little nuisances
2.25x left shift is that of standard US(ANSI) layout.
1.25x + 1x left shift + ISO is that of Euroupean(ISO) layout.
Post by: whentheclouds on Thu, 22 May 2014, 13:39:25
Post by: redskull on Sat, 24 May 2014, 08:10:41
hello GON,sorry, i'm asking about the difference between, for example, 2.25 left shift vs 1.25+1. it isn't very apparent to me from looking at the pictures, nor can i find similar layouts on the internet for comparison
thanks for being patient, i'm still relatively new to custom keyboards and have yet to grasp all the little nuisances
2.25x left shift is that of standard US(ANSI) layout.
1.25x + 1x left shift + ISO is that of Euroupean(ISO) layout.
sorry but you haven't been replying my emails. what is the update for my orders sir?
Post by: GON on Sun, 25 May 2014, 16:58:34
hello GON,sorry, i'm asking about the difference between, for example, 2.25 left shift vs 1.25+1. it isn't very apparent to me from looking at the pictures, nor can i find similar layouts on the internet for comparison
thanks for being patient, i'm still relatively new to custom keyboards and have yet to grasp all the little nuisances
2.25x left shift is that of standard US(ANSI) layout.
1.25x + 1x left shift + ISO is that of Euroupean(ISO) layout.
sorry but you haven't been replying my emails. what is the update for my orders sir?
Sorry for late reply, you would have received a reply. ;)
Post by: Crabby_b on Mon, 02 June 2014, 10:02:28
Post by: GON on Mon, 02 June 2014, 10:39:50
Hi Gon, Do you know when the nerd 60 PCB will be available on your site?
I've not "officially" released NerD 60 PCBs because due to its limitation on the number of the keys, NerD 60 has more need for GUI(kemap changing tool) that I will release in a month or two.
But it doesn't mean NerD 60 has any key code included in standard 104 layout.
Here you can see keymap layers(Normal, Fn1, Fn2) for NerD PCBs.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57751.0
As you can see, even NerD 60 includes all the keys in its 3 layers.
If you still want it, contact me. ;)
Post by: Crabby_b on Mon, 02 June 2014, 10:44:08
Hi Gon, Do you know when the nerd 60 PCB will be available on your site?
I've not "officially" released NerD 60 PCBs because due to its limitation on the number of the keys, NerD 60 has more need for GUI(kemap changing tool) that I will release in a month or two.
But it doesn't mean NerD 60 has any key code included in standard 104 layout.
Here you can see keymap layers(Normal, Fn1, Fn2) for NerD PCBs.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57751.0
As you can see, even NerD 60 includes all the keys in its 3 layers.
If you still want it, contact me. ;)
Thanks! I'll be sending you a PM shortly. :D
Post by: minho on Thu, 12 June 2014, 14:31:05
If buying a acrylic case and nerd pcb, do you need to purchase the SMD and LEDs and other components separately? (I see them for sale on the website as separate parts, but not sure if included in PCB order or not).
Post by: pmh1410 on Sat, 14 June 2014, 01:47:05
Post by: GON on Tue, 17 June 2014, 06:44:30
Hi Gon, pls check your email ;)
Sorry, I will check it. ;)
Post by: redskull on Wed, 18 June 2014, 01:01:30
hi GON, whats the update on my small order?Hi Gon, pls check your email ;)
Sorry, I will check it. ;)
Post by: GON on Sat, 21 June 2014, 06:29:04
hi GON, whats the update on my small order?Hi Gon, pls check your email ;)
Sorry, I will check it. ;)
Will be shipped next week. ;)
(They are already packed and waiting for pick up. ;))
Post by: redskull on Sat, 21 June 2014, 07:21:21
w00t! w00t! cant wait! ;D ;D ;Dhi GON, whats the update on my small order?Hi Gon, pls check your email ;)
Sorry, I will check it. ;)
Will be shipped next week. ;)
(They are already packed and waiting for pick up. ;))
Post by: redskull on Tue, 24 June 2014, 04:14:17
hi GON,hi GON, whats the update on my small order?Hi Gon, pls check your email ;)
Sorry, I will check it. ;)
Will be shipped next week. ;)
(They are already packed and waiting for pick up. ;))
after you ship my items, should i receive any notification in my e-mail? maybe from paypal?
Post by: GON on Thu, 26 June 2014, 06:19:51
hi GON,hi GON, whats the update on my small order?Hi Gon, pls check your email ;)
Sorry, I will check it. ;)
Will be shipped next week. ;)
(They are already packed and waiting for pick up. ;))
after you ship my items, should i receive any notification in my e-mail? maybe from paypal?
Either from paypal or at www.GONsKeyboardworks.com orderstatus. ;)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 26 June 2014, 06:28:24
What are the chances of getting a LEEKU 1800 pcb from your shop?
Post by: GON on Thu, 26 June 2014, 06:37:11
Hello, GON!
What are the chances of getting a LEEKU 1800 pcb from your shop?
Sorry I don't have them in stock. ;)
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:28:52
Is it something you could get in the future?Hello, GON!
What are the chances of getting a LEEKU 1800 pcb from your shop?
Sorry I don't have them in stock. ;)
Post by: GON on Thu, 26 June 2014, 07:41:44
Is it something you could get in the future?Hello, GON!
What are the chances of getting a LEEKU 1800 pcb from your shop?
Sorry I don't have them in stock. ;)
Maybe not, sorry...
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Thu, 26 June 2014, 09:41:10
no worries GON! just thought I'd check.Is it something you could get in the future?Hello, GON!
What are the chances of getting a LEEKU 1800 pcb from your shop?
Sorry I don't have them in stock. ;)
Maybe not, sorry...
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 27 June 2014, 09:22:22
Would this
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housingscases/82-acrylic-housing-for-nerd-tkl.html
Fit a A.87?
Cheers
George
Post by: GON on Fri, 27 June 2014, 12:17:14
Hi Gon
Would this
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housingscases/82-acrylic-housing-for-nerd-tkl.html
Fit a A.87?
Cheers
George
No, that only fits NerD TKL PCB. ;)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 27 June 2014, 12:27:57
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 09 July 2014, 10:47:22
1) Have you stopped doing the GON NS 87 case with semi-glare?
2) Are you going to be discontinuing them at any point?
Post by: GON on Wed, 09 July 2014, 11:38:55
Couple more quick questions:
1) Have you stopped doing the GON NS 87 case with semi-glare?
2) Are you going to be discontinuing them at any point?
1) Semi-Glare is not available anymore...
2) Yes, it will be soon discontinued.
Post by: GeorgeK on Wed, 09 July 2014, 16:10:13
Post by: GON on Thu, 10 July 2014, 05:42:26
OK - how long do I have to order one?
I think I have one Mid-part left. And I don't know whether I will make more or not...
AL plates are not difficult to machine, but its mid parts are not... so I usually have mid-parts in stock as many as I need.
Now, I have one left.
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 10 July 2014, 07:35:32
Thanks
GK
Post by: GON on Fri, 11 July 2014, 13:16:27
Could you put it aside for me? I just need to test something and then I'll order (by Sunday at the latest)
Thanks
GK
OK, No problem. ;)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 11 July 2014, 16:52:47
GK
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 17 July 2014, 02:18:02
Seeing as a NerD TKL PCB and one of the acrylic cases is actually less money than one of the A.87 compatible cases - a couple of questions about the NerD TKL if I may:
1) Is there a reason that orange LEDs aren't available? I have some of these (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-x-Rectangle-Orange-LED-2x3x4mm-1st-Class-Postage-UK-/290933176102?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item43bcf7f726") which have a forward voltage of 1.8 - 2.2v so I'm guessing the 680 ohm resistors would be best if the board supports them.
2) I see on the product page for the PCB that the keymap editor isn't available yet. As standard, does it support this layout:
(http://i.imgur.com/tAQFK.jpg)
3) If it does support that layout, which key/s are the fn keys and what is the fn layer?
That's it for now!
Thanks again GON - most appreciated :)
GK
Post by: GON on Thu, 17 July 2014, 07:31:44
Hmm - looks like there are some issues with my A.87 pcb that I can't iron out myself in a hurry...
Seeing as a NerD TKL PCB and one of the acrylic cases is actually less money than one of the A.87 compatible cases - a couple of questions about the NerD TKL if I may:
1) Is there a reason that orange LEDs aren't available? I have some of these (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-x-Rectangle-Orange-LED-2x3x4mm-1st-Class-Postage-UK-/290933176102?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item43bcf7f726") which have a forward voltage of 1.8 - 2.2v so I'm guessing the 680 ohm resistors would be best if the board supports them.
2) I see on the product page for the PCB that the keymap editor isn't available yet. As standard, does it support this layout:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tAQFK.jpg)
3) If it does support that layout, which key/s are the fn keys and what is the fn layer?
That's it for now!
Thanks again GON - most appreciated :)
GK
1) There is little demand for Orange LEDs because they are too similar with REDs. So I don't stock them. But you can apply them to the PCB if you want.
2)3) Refer to the following links. Keymap editor is not a problem anymore, it will be released at around the end of this month.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50577.0
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housingscases/82-acrylic-housing-for-nerd-tkl.html
Post by: GeorgeK on Thu, 17 July 2014, 07:34:55
Thanks again
GK
Post by: GON on Sat, 19 July 2014, 01:16:12
Thanks for getting back to me. So with a Winkey layout (1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1 - 1.5) does the right-hand 'windows' key (the 1x key) act as the fn key? Does the board come pre-programmed with this layout or another layout (a 6.25 spacebar for example)
Thanks again
GK
Keymap is no more problem, GUI is almost developed and will be released at the end of this month.
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 19 July 2014, 03:36:01
Last question - I'm trying to decide on what colours to go for in terms of the case. Do you have any pictures of the "Orange (Transparent)" acrylic that is available for either the plate or the mid section? (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housingscases/82-acrylic-housing-for-nerd-tkl.html)
Cheers
GK
Post by: GON on Sat, 19 July 2014, 08:26:02
Great - thanks again.
Last question - I'm trying to decide on what colours to go for in terms of the case. Do you have any pictures of the "Orange (Transparent)" acrylic that is available for either the plate or the mid section? (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housingscases/82-acrylic-housing-for-nerd-tkl.html)
Cheers
GK
Unfortunately, no... I don't have pictures for Acrylics.
Post by: GeorgeK on Sat, 19 July 2014, 13:11:47
Would the orange that isn't transparent let any light through? If not then I might have made my decision :)
Post by: GON on Sun, 20 July 2014, 01:48:20
OK thanks. Fairly certain I'm going to go for black top and bottom. Just need to decide on either orange plate and mid or transparent orange top and mid.
Would the orange that isn't transparent let any light through? If not then I might have made my decision :)
I don't recommend non-transparent parts for mid if you like beautiful Side LEDs. ;)
Post by: GeorgeK on Sun, 20 July 2014, 03:47:19
How does a black top and bottom and transparent orange mid and plate sound to you? (With orange switch and side LEDs)
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 25 July 2014, 07:25:31
One last question (I hope)
On the NerD PCB page at the bottom of the page it gives the option for side LED colour. Does this mean that they are included in the price of the PCB or would they need ordering separately? (i.e If I selected Orange would I actually receive 33 orange SMD LEDs or not?)
Thanks
George
Post by: GON on Fri, 25 July 2014, 07:40:59
Hi GON
One last question (I hope)
On the NerD PCB page at the bottom of the page it gives the option for side LED colour. Does this mean that they are included in the price of the PCB or would they need ordering separately? (i.e If I selected Orange would I actually receive 33 orange SMD LEDs or not?)
Thanks
George
If you want to solder SMD LEDs yourself, you can order them at Accessories Category.
If you want me to solder SMD LEDs, you have to choose "Optional Soldering = Side LEDs and resistors for them" which charges you extra fee.
Post by: GeorgeK on Fri, 25 July 2014, 07:42:05
What is the drop-down on the page for?
Post by: domoaligato on Thu, 31 July 2014, 20:05:56
Post by: GON on Thu, 31 July 2014, 20:30:11
has information about the Gon NerD Ergo been released? I saw this in the NerD Gui youtube videos and was very interested.
Someday... but not developed yet. ;)
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 08 August 2014, 14:02:34
I want them to be extra bright!
Post by: GON on Sat, 09 August 2014, 03:41:09
What resistors are recommended to use for white LED's on the PS2AVR mx-miniU? In-switch square 2x3x4 white led's will be used.
I want them to be extra bright!
If you don't connect it to PS/2 but only to USB, 470R will do.
Post by: margo baggins on Mon, 11 August 2014, 07:17:32
Can you make your 60% acrylic case support ISO? or is that not possible?
thanks :)
Margo
PS. The nerdy gui is amazing.
Post by: GON on Mon, 11 August 2014, 08:08:35
Hello GON,
Can you make your 60% acrylic case support ISO? or is that not possible?
thanks :)
Margo
PS. The nerdy gui is amazing.
Hi margo,
Well... I can if I feel I need to.
It's just a matter of priority.... I don't have enough time to do everything... ;)
So... I do first what many people want or would want.
Just to make one, I have to sample it.
Acrylics are not suitable to make multi-layout supporting plate...
How many want ISO only layout? ;)
P.S. I considered all about NerD - Physical PCB design, Functions, Firmware and GUI - at the very beginning of its development. ;)
Post by: margo baggins on Tue, 12 August 2014, 04:28:15
Plus I realised the GON [CTRL]ALT 60 supports ISO, so I will just use that. I just wanted to build a little ISO board :)
Post by: GON on Tue, 12 August 2014, 05:03:48
I don't think very many :)
Plus I realised the GON [CTRL]ALT 60 supports ISO, so I will just use that. I just wanted to build a little ISO board :)
Yes, that KBD supports almost all kinds of layouts. ;)
Post by: cseng on Tue, 19 August 2014, 06:10:26
hi GON,hi GON, whats the update on my small order?Hi Gon, pls check your email ;)
Sorry, I will check it. ;)
Will be shipped next week. ;)
(They are already packed and waiting for pick up. ;))
after you ship my items, should i receive any notification in my e-mail? maybe from paypal?
Either from paypal or at www.GONsKeyboardworks.com orderstatus. ;)
Wait... so that means my order hasn't been shipped yet?! My payment was accepted 15th May and it's 19 August today....
Btw I sent you a mail asking the same question...
Post by: GON on Tue, 19 August 2014, 14:12:59
hi GON,hi GON, whats the update on my small order?Hi Gon, pls check your email ;)
Sorry, I will check it. ;)
Will be shipped next week. ;)
(They are already packed and waiting for pick up. ;))
after you ship my items, should i receive any notification in my e-mail? maybe from paypal?
Either from paypal or at www.GONsKeyboardworks.com orderstatus. ;)
Wait... so that means my order hasn't been shipped yet?! My payment was accepted 15th May and it's 19 August today....
Btw I sent you a mail asking the same question...
Sorry for delay...
NerDy GUI took more time than I expected this spring....
But I shipped your NerD today, and you can check your tracking number at your order status.
You will need a couple of days till you can track with that number.
Thanks for your patience, ;)
GON
Post by: cseng on Tue, 19 August 2014, 14:24:11
Oh well 1-2 more weeks then.
Post by: archer on Tue, 19 August 2014, 15:38:00
Ye but latest version 1.2 was released like 3rd August...Not sure where you're located.. but when I got my tracking number from Gon, the kbd was at my house on my doorstep in 3 or 4 days. You might not have to wait as long as you think!
Oh well 1-2 more weeks then.
Post by: cseng on Tue, 19 August 2014, 17:34:04
Ye but latest version 1.2 was released like 3rd August...Not sure where you're located.. but when I got my tracking number from Gon, the kbd was at my house on my doorstep in 3 or 4 days. You might not have to wait as long as you think!
Oh well 1-2 more weeks then.
I'm in Sweden and I hope that applies to me as well lol.
Post by: GON on Tue, 19 August 2014, 19:35:39
Ye but latest version 1.2 was released like 3rd August...
Oh well 1-2 more weeks then.
Sorry... I had to spend almost a whole month in developing... Which means, I could not assemble for the time being....
Post by: uns211 on Fri, 22 August 2014, 15:53:59
Post by: GON on Fri, 22 August 2014, 22:20:29
Are these resistors (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=CRCW0603470RJNEAHPvirtualkey61300000virtualkey71-CRCW0603470RJNEAH) suitible for the GON NerD 60/ [CTRL]ALT 60?
470R is OK for Switch-Backlight LEDs of NerD, but the size should be 0805[2012 metric].
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 22 August 2014, 22:47:54
Wait... so that means my order hasn't been shipped yet?! My payment was accepted 15th May and it's 19 August today....
Btw I sent you a mail asking the same question...
This is what it's like when you want an artist to produce a piece of work for you. Don't expect tight deadlines otherwise go to Filco, Leopold or Realforce and buy their product which is already made for you to pick up straight away.
I too had to wait for his work BUT it was definitely worth the wait. Makes you appreciate all the finery of his craftsmanship when it sits in front of you ready to be plugged into the back of your PC.
Like all artists they operate at their own times and frequency, in fact I'm starting to wonder if GON is getting sick and tired of producing the same product through his studio all the time? I certainly hope not because I want to buy some more of his keyboards with some brilliant colours applied.
Post by: uns211 on Fri, 22 August 2014, 23:17:53
Are these resistors (http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=CRCW0603470RJNEAHPvirtualkey61300000virtualkey71-CRCW0603470RJNEAH) suitible for the GON NerD 60/ [CTRL]ALT 60?
470R is OK for Switch-Backlight LEDs of NerD, but the size should be 0805[2012 metric].
Thank you GON!
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 24 August 2014, 12:09:43
Do you have pictures of the colors you use for the acrylic GON NerD cases? I'm trying to decide which color I want, but without pictures it's kind of hard...
Thanks,
-TS
Post by: Jason_IRL on Sun, 24 August 2014, 19:37:20
Do the NerD PCBs support RGB LEDs?
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 24 August 2014, 19:56:23
Hi GON!
Do the NerD PCBs support RGB LEDs?
they don't
Post by: GON on Mon, 25 August 2014, 08:30:48
Hi GON!
Do the NerD PCBs support RGB LEDs?
Hi GON!
Do the NerD PCBs support RGB LEDs?
they don't
Thanks TacticalStache ;)
No, they don't support RGB LEDs because NerD control brightness in 256 scale based on PWM. ;)
Post by: Jason_IRL on Mon, 25 August 2014, 10:49:53
Hi GON!
Do the NerD PCBs support RGB LEDs?Hi GON!
Do the NerD PCBs support RGB LEDs?
they don't
Thanks TacticalStache ;)
No, they don't support RGB LEDs because NerD control brightness in 256 scale based on PWM. ;)
Gotcha, Kinda thought so, but wanted to make sure!
thanks!
Post by: cseng on Tue, 26 August 2014, 16:03:42
Wait... so that means my order hasn't been shipped yet?! My payment was accepted 15th May and it's 19 August today....
Btw I sent you a mail asking the same question...
This is what it's like when you want an artist to produce a piece of work for you. Don't expect tight deadlines otherwise go to Filco, Leopold or Realforce and buy their product which is already made for you to pick up straight away.
I too had to wait for his work BUT it was definitely worth the wait. Makes you appreciate all the finery of his craftsmanship when it sits in front of you ready to be plugged into the back of your PC.
Like all artists they operate at their own times and frequency, in fact I'm starting to wonder if GON is getting sick and tired of producing the same product through his studio all the time? I certainly hope not because I want to buy some more of his keyboards with some brilliant colours applied.
i received my Nerd 2 days ago and it sure was worth the wait. his work surely justifies the delay.
"Don't expect tight deadlines otherwise go to Filco, Leopold or Realforce"
2 months + 1 week was the estimated arrival time, i had waited 3 months and it had not been sent yet, as a customer it makes total sense to contemplate the situation and at least ask for an update. i did and voiced my concern and i kindly received an answer with an explanation to the unplanned delay and the very same day it was sent straight away. no regrets.
so please, without being so dramatic try contextualize the situation.
no disrespect to GON. actually, i'm planning to order a Mx-Mini soon and a numpad. :thumb: and i also sent you a mail with a question.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 26 August 2014, 18:34:53
But it's way worth it.
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 26 August 2014, 19:28:35
It takes a while because (I think) this is not GON's day job, and he gets more orders than you think. If you're worried about not being able to build it without issue (like me, but I'm gonna try), you'll have to wait a while. It takes a few hours to build just 1 keyboard.
But it's way worth it.
So TRUE :thumb: .
It's like waiting for a brand new Aston Martin One -77 model, that baby will take a long, long time to build but when it's delivered to your place then everything is forgiven because you'll have in your possession something that only a handful of people own on the surface of this planet 8) .
Works of Art always takes the longest time to execute hence having a little patience is really worth it when you decide to delve into owning an original GON keyboard.
Post by: SirPony on Fri, 29 August 2014, 17:31:36
It takes a while because (I think) this is not GON's day job, and he gets more orders than you think. If you're worried about not being able to build it without issue (like me, but I'm gonna try), you'll have to wait a while. It takes a few hours to build just 1 keyboard.
But it's way worth it.
Gon prob has more than 10 orders at any time
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 30 August 2014, 12:57:41
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 30 August 2014, 15:23:23
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 30 August 2014, 21:16:57
Hey GON, is there a reason you don't take paypal?
Yeah, I tried ordering a keyboard from his site but it got stuck on 4D secure (froze) and never went through. GON why did you step away from using Paypal when it always worked in the past?
Post by: kitsun8 on Sun, 31 August 2014, 05:20:44
I need some clarifying on the LEDs for the NerD 60. How do the Caps and numlock LEDs work? And also what about the side LEDs? If you have a photo that would be great thanks ;D
And lastly is the PCB plate mount or PCB mount? What plates are compatible with the PCB? Thank you so much and sorry for all the questions :-[
Post by: GON on Sun, 31 August 2014, 12:54:57
Hey GON, is there a reason you don't take paypal?
Hey GON, is there a reason you don't take paypal?
Yeah, I tried ordering a keyboard from his site but it got stuck on 4D secure (froze) and never went through. GON why did you step away from using Paypal when it always worked in the past?
I do accept paypal ;)
Choose "BankWire Transfer" and let me know, then I will tell you my paypal acc. ;)
Post by: GON on Sun, 31 August 2014, 13:04:18
Hi Gon,
I need some clarifying on the LEDs for the NerD 60. How do the Caps and numlock LEDs work? And also what about the side LEDs? If you have a photo that would be great thanks ;D
And lastly is the PCB plate mount or PCB mount? What plates are compatible with the PCB? Thank you so much and sorry for all the questions :-[
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/142-thickbox_default/gon-ns-nerd-tkl-w-tuningassembly.jpg
Indicator LED besides CapsLock switch includes capslock indication.
There are no dedicated numlock and scrollock LEDs, because nothing differs when numlock pressed.
And just a few use ScrLock... So I just ommited the 2 lock indicators.
But user can make NerD indicate the 2 indicator LEDs by linking to Side LED or Switch Backlight LEDs.
NerD is not designed to fit in stock kbds.
You have to use NerD housings designed for it.
As far as I know, no Korean custom kbd adopts Frame/Plate mount stabilizers.
Post by: kitsun8 on Mon, 01 September 2014, 02:31:59
As far as I know, no Korean custom kbd adopts Frame/Plate mount stabilizers.
So the cherry stabilizers you're selling should be fine?
Post by: GON on Mon, 01 September 2014, 03:14:17
As far as I know, no Korean custom kbd adopts Frame/Plate mount stabilizers.
So the cherry stabilizers you're selling should be fine?
right.
Post by: Lastpilot on Fri, 05 September 2014, 10:06:38
Maybe something like this?
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51LstE7Om6L._SX342_.jpg)
Post by: GON on Fri, 05 September 2014, 10:24:00
Is there any way to buy polycarbonate screws for your keyboards? I can't find any M3x12mm ones anywhere! Maybe there is better availability in S. Korea?
Maybe something like this?Show Image(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51LstE7Om6L._SX342_.jpg)
Yes I can get them in Korea.(But what I can buy is not - but +)
But they are expensive, and are not sold in small qty.
100 pcs of them are sold at about $20(including domestic shipping and tax in Korea).
So if I proxy them for you, your cost will be about $22(including transaction fee) + shipping.
Post by: kitsun8 on Mon, 08 September 2014, 19:46:04
Just clarifying, your universal plate fits the NerD 60 yeah? Also i want to add one to my order and have it shipped together, so how would i get that done? And would the shipping be cheaper since it'd all come in the one box?
Post by: GON on Tue, 09 September 2014, 07:22:54
Hi gon!
Just clarifying, your universal plate fits the NerD 60 yeah? Also i want to add one to my order and have it shipped together, so how would i get that done? And would the shipping be cheaper since it'd all come in the one box?
Of course, My UV60% Plate fits NerD 60 PCB and supports its various Layouts in one plate. ;)
And it's CNC-machined, high quality Plate.
Shipping will be cheaper as they are combined in one box.
Would you place an order for additional items and let me know?
I will see how much more shipping should be added, then adjust your order, so that you can pay adjusted total. ;)
Post by: kitsun8 on Tue, 09 September 2014, 08:10:38
Post by: kitsun8 on Tue, 09 September 2014, 08:15:32
Post by: GON on Tue, 09 September 2014, 08:56:47
I just placed an order but haven't sent money through PayPal yet. Please let me know readjusted price so i can pay :)
I adjusted the shipping. You may make a paypal gift payment now. ;)
Post by: kitsun8 on Tue, 09 September 2014, 19:21:25
Just sent payment. Thanks again GON!I just placed an order but haven't sent money through PayPal yet. Please let me know readjusted price so i can pay :)
I adjusted the shipping. You may make a paypal gift payment now. ;)
Post by: archer on Mon, 15 September 2014, 14:14:28
Post by: GON on Tue, 16 September 2014, 03:42:03
Hey GON, ygpm sir! :thumb:
I checked and sent you a reply. ;)
Post by: archer on Tue, 16 September 2014, 14:26:08
Hey GON, ygpm sir! :thumb:
I checked and sent you a reply. ;)
Sent 1 more your way.. sorry to be a bother!
Post by: GON on Tue, 16 September 2014, 14:32:08
Hey GON, ygpm sir! :thumb:
I checked and sent you a reply. ;)
Sent 1 more your way.. sorry to be a bother!
No problem. I sent you a reply for it. ;)
Post by: DanielT on Thu, 18 September 2014, 08:47:59
I'm asking because I have problems with a faceU ps2avr 60% board and BIOS, and it's really annoying :(
Post by: GON on Thu, 18 September 2014, 10:08:01
Is NerD60 working also in BIOS, I mean is it recognized also in BIOS ?
I'm asking because I have problems with a faceU ps2avr 60% board and BIOS, and it's really annoying :(
Yes, NerD 60 works in BIOS, only if you turn it in "6KRO" mode. ;)
With Full NKRO, not all M/B's will recognize your NerD.
Post by: DanielT on Thu, 18 September 2014, 11:50:37
Post by: kitsun8 on Fri, 19 September 2014, 00:48:35
Post by: xybre on Sat, 20 September 2014, 08:19:02
For instance taylordcraig is selling this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52696.0) case (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51101.0) and I was thinking about using it as an alternate:
(http://i.imgur.com/ix2757D.jpg)
Post by: GON on Sat, 20 September 2014, 10:00:04
Hi GON, does the NerD 60 PCB fit into other cases?
For instance taylordcraig is selling this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52696.0) case (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51101.0) and I was thinking about using it as an alternate:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ix2757D.jpg)
Yes, NerD 60 fits the case.
And my UV60% 2T CNC-machined Plate fits the case too. ;)
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html
As you see above, UV60% supports all layouts of NerD 60. CNC-machined 2T highest Quality Plate.
Post by: xybre on Sat, 20 September 2014, 12:29:09
Hi GON, does the NerD 60 PCB fit into other cases?
For instance taylordcraig is selling this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52696.0) case (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51101.0) and I was thinking about using it as an alternate:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ix2757D.jpg)
Yes, NerD 60 fits the case.
And my UV60% 2T CNC-machined Plate fits the case too. ;)
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html
As you see above, UV60% supports all layouts of NerD 60. CNC-machined 2T highest Quality Plate.
That universal plate sure looks nice :)
Thanks!
Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 20 September 2014, 13:11:26
Hi GON, does the NerD 60 PCB fit into other cases?
For instance taylordcraig is selling this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52696.0) case (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51101.0) and I was thinking about using it as an alternate:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ix2757D.jpg)
Yes, NerD 60 fits the case.
And my UV60% 2T CNC-machined Plate fits the case too. ;)
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html
As you see above, UV60% supports all layouts of NerD 60. CNC-machined 2T highest Quality Plate.
That universal plate sure looks nice :)
Thanks!
GONs build quality is superb.. If I didnt have a GON case Id get that plate. :thumb:
Post by: GON on Sat, 20 September 2014, 18:46:33
Hi GON, does the NerD 60 PCB fit into other cases?
For instance taylordcraig is selling this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52696.0) case (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51101.0) and I was thinking about using it as an alternate:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ix2757D.jpg)
Yes, NerD 60 fits the case.
And my UV60% 2T CNC-machined Plate fits the case too. ;)
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/17-universal-frameplate-for-60.html
As you see above, UV60% supports all layouts of NerD 60. CNC-machined 2T highest Quality Plate.
That universal plate sure looks nice :)
Thanks!
GONs build quality is superb.. If I didnt have a GON case Id get that plate. :thumb:
Thanks duxtinhxc ;)
Post by: dante on Sat, 27 September 2014, 07:03:05
Was just asking to find out if you have made any movement into making Alps an option on your boards?
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 27 September 2014, 07:53:39
GON,
Was just asking to find out if you have made any movement into making Alps an option on your boards?
Why not even use Matias Switches as well :thumb: ?
Post by: GON on Sat, 27 September 2014, 11:40:08
GON,
Was just asking to find out if you have made any movement into making Alps an option on your boards?
GON,
Was just asking to find out if you have made any movement into making Alps an option on your boards?
Why not even use Matias Switches as well :thumb: ?
As for now, the biggest barrier for me in Alps is "Keycaps".
Alps does not have firm standard reference like CHERRY.
I think I need someone who will co-operate for caps, while I work for the PCB and Housing. ;)
I don't know when... ;)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 27 September 2014, 13:57:23
And I'd totally buy one.
Post by: GON on Sun, 28 September 2014, 00:26:35
I think if you got in touch with Matias, a GON designed Matias ALPS board is a definite possibility.
And I'd totally buy one.
The most important issue is "QTY", if there is enough qty, keycaps can be manufactured separately. Housings, PCBs, switches, and others don't matter.
But I'm afraid there wouldn't be enough demand... just for a couple dozen, PCBs and Housings cannot be made. It's too time demanding...
Post by: dante on Sun, 28 September 2014, 16:06:17
I've asked Matias to help you out. He is supplying ABS/PBT ALPS keycaps to the community.
Here is the post I sent him: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63347.0
He is presently working on a Group buy 60% board that is hybrid Cherry MX/Alps compatible!
Post by: dante on Sun, 28 September 2014, 16:24:56
Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 28 September 2014, 16:28:50
Post by: tsusing on Mon, 29 September 2014, 12:19:06
Post by: GON on Mon, 29 September 2014, 13:44:42
Hi i'm planning to change one of my MX switches using this guide: Since my GON Nerd TKL has LED's attached on each switch, am i breaking something by removing the switches the same way as he did?
You have to desolder the switch as well as its in-switch LED.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Wed, 01 October 2014, 21:15:55
Post by: GON on Wed, 01 October 2014, 23:57:01
Is there any way to decrease the inclination of my GoN Crystal TKL? (Are the feet removable?)
You can remove the feet with H2 Hexa wrench. ;)
You have to be careful when fastening the bolts again.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Thu, 02 October 2014, 16:27:26
I set the keys for bluetooth toggle and connect
EDIT: Figured it out.... I think xD
I have both dip switches up and I press the connect key then search for it on my android device but for whatever reason it wasn't showing up for me
Post by: GON on Thu, 02 October 2014, 16:48:28
I'm trying really hard to figure out how to connect my keyboard via bluetooth o.o
I set the keys for bluetooth toggle and connect
EDIT: Figured it out.... I think xD
I have both dip switches up and I press the connect key then search for it on my android device but for whatever reason it wasn't showing up for me
Try Off and On again with your phone. And Off and On again with your NerD. Then try again. ;)
I also use NEXUS5 and I'm 100% sure it works. ;)
By default, BT Connect is "Fn2 + C", BT/USB Toggle is "Fn2 + B"
Post by: Spelly on Thu, 02 October 2014, 17:45:51
I heard about your keyboards on /r/MechanicalKeyboards a while back, and have been doing some research to find out more. I love your NerD boards, and saw on your site that you offer a fully built NerD 60%. I was wondering if there are any pictures of the 60% and what kind of layout the board uses. Thanks for the help!
Post by: GON on Thu, 02 October 2014, 19:30:11
GON:
I heard about your keyboards on /r/MechanicalKeyboards a while back, and have been doing some research to find out more. I love your NerD boards, and saw on your site that you offer a fully built NerD 60%. I was wondering if there are any pictures of the 60% and what kind of layout the board uses. Thanks for the help!
Sorry I could not take many pictures due to time limit. T.T
But you can find out what layouts NerD 60 supports
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/custom-kbds-w-assembly/101-gon-ns-nerd-60-w-tuningassembly.html
As you see in the options, NerD 60 as well as other NerD PCBs supports almost all kind of standard layouts including ANSI, ISO and etc...
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Thu, 02 October 2014, 20:31:15
I'm trying really hard to figure out how to connect my keyboard via bluetooth o.o
I set the keys for bluetooth toggle and connect
EDIT: Figured it out.... I think xD
I have both dip switches up and I press the connect key then search for it on my android device but for whatever reason it wasn't showing up for me
Try Off and On again with your phone. And Off and On again with your NerD. Then try again. ;)
I also use NEXUS5 and I'm 100% sure it works. ;)
By default, BT Connect is "Fn2 + C", BT/USB Toggle is "Fn2 + B"
Yea I got it working right after making the post xD
I had to switch the dip switches down and back up then it was working!
Post by: Spelly on Fri, 03 October 2014, 15:24:51
Post by: GON on Sat, 04 October 2014, 00:06:31
Thanks for the quick answers, and sorry for asking a question with such an obviously available answer! When I was looking at the customization options, I saw that you could mod the springs on any of the switches down to 50g, but I was wondering if it would be possible to go down to 45g upon request to get a more "ergo clear" type switch? Ive been interested in this type of switch and have been looking for a way to get my hands on a board with them. Once again, thanks for the quick responses! :)
Clears /w 45g springs will not work properly. 55 is the minimum for Clears, in fact.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 04 October 2014, 20:58:05
Second guy from the top. Saw this on bigdaddy's stream earlier today.
http://www.twitch.tv/bigdaddy/b/574816629?t=151m5s
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 05 October 2014, 06:42:01
Clears /w 45g springs will not work properly. 55 is the minimum for Clears, in fact.
Will the Clears work with 120g springs? If not, what maximum spring strength (don't know what else to call it) are you able to use with any Clear Cherry Switches?
Post by: GON on Sun, 05 October 2014, 07:35:26
Clears /w 45g springs will not work properly. 55 is the minimum for Clears, in fact.
Will the Clears work with 120g springs? If not, what maximum spring strength (don't know what else to call it) are you able to use with any Clear Cherry Switches?
Heavier Springs never make problem, but "Light" ones only does. ;)
If you want heavier springs, I would recommend springs from Grey stem switches. ;)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 05 October 2014, 09:36:57
You will lose some of the tactile feedback with heavier springs.Clears /w 45g springs will not work properly. 55 is the minimum for Clears, in fact.
Will the Clears work with 120g springs? If not, what maximum spring strength (don't know what else to call it) are you able to use with any Clear Cherry Switches?
Post by: GON on Sun, 05 October 2014, 10:02:02
You will lose some of the tactile feedback with heavier springs.Clears /w 45g springs will not work properly. 55 is the minimum for Clears, in fact.
Will the Clears work with 120g springs? If not, what maximum spring strength (don't know what else to call it) are you able to use with any Clear Cherry Switches?
Right that should be taken into consideration. ;)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 06 October 2014, 16:49:07
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 06 October 2014, 16:55:14
Hey GON, is it possible to get any cases in white? Also, any chance of the HHKB case coming back into stock?
the acrylic case comes in white
Post by: nebo on Mon, 06 October 2014, 17:24:06
Guess I should have specified, edited my post.Hey GON, is it possible to get any cases in white? Also, any chance of the HHKB case coming back into stock?
the acrylic case comes in white
Post by: GON on Tue, 07 October 2014, 03:17:13
Guess I should have specified, edited my post.Hey GON, is it possible to get any cases in white? Also, any chance of the HHKB case coming back into stock?
the acrylic case comes in white
I also have an MOQ for CNC-machining... So.. would you do an IC? If there is more than 5, I will make HHKB housing. ;)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 07 October 2014, 11:04:25
Awesome. For the IC, would they all have to be the same color and shipped to the same person who would then distribute them?Guess I should have specified, edited my post.Hey GON, is it possible to get any cases in white? Also, any chance of the HHKB case coming back into stock?
the acrylic case comes in white
I also have an MOQ for CNC-machining... So.. would you do an IC? If there is more than 5, I will make HHKB housing. ;)
Post by: GON on Tue, 07 October 2014, 14:03:00
Awesome. For the IC, would they all have to be the same color and shipped to the same person who would then distribute them?Guess I should have specified, edited my post.Hey GON, is it possible to get any cases in white? Also, any chance of the HHKB case coming back into stock?
the acrylic case comes in white
I also have an MOQ for CNC-machining... So.. would you do an IC? If there is more than 5, I will make HHKB housing. ;)
No they will place their own orders at my website.
They will directly make their payment to me.
I will ship the items directly to them.
Each of them can choose their own color.
They can pick other items to combine shipping. ;)
5 of moq is just because of CNC-machining not because of anodizing. ;)
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Wed, 08 October 2014, 09:40:45
Trying to get a custom hard case done for it before it arrives so I don't damage it early on from bringing it around
Post by: nebo on Wed, 08 October 2014, 11:02:20
I think I love you. :)Awesome. For the IC, would they all have to be the same color and shipped to the same person who would then distribute them?Guess I should have specified, edited my post.Hey GON, is it possible to get any cases in white? Also, any chance of the HHKB case coming back into stock?
the acrylic case comes in white
I also have an MOQ for CNC-machining... So.. would you do an IC? If there is more than 5, I will make HHKB housing. ;)
No they will place their own orders at my website.
They will directly make their payment to me.
I will ship the items directly to them.
Each of them can choose their own color.
They can pick other items to combine shipping. ;)
5 of moq is just because of CNC-machining not because of anodizing. ;)
Post by: kitsun8 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 01:29:43
Post by: GON on Thu, 16 October 2014, 08:14:28
Do i use the left or the right for a 6.25 spacebar?Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/15/171272021e18a423be72401360701ba5.jpg)and for the right alt and fn1 key its the middle slots for 1.25 yeah? I've never been given so many options before :o
Look at the back of the PCB, there would be silk print for it.
Left one is for Filco position, and the right is for CHERRY position.
Post by: kitsun8 on Thu, 16 October 2014, 08:22:44
Are poker and filco spacebar the same?Do i use the left or the right for a 6.25 spacebar?Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/15/171272021e18a423be72401360701ba5.jpg)and for the right alt and fn1 key its the middle slots for 1.25 yeah? I've never been given so many options before :o
Look at the back of the PCB, there would be silk print for it.
Left one is for Filco position, and the right is for CHERRY position.
Post by: ceflame on Fri, 17 October 2014, 01:33:24
You told me initially it would be last week, and then either Monday or Tuesday this week, but I haven't heard back from you yet about shipping.
Sorry to keep bugging you about it if you're busy with other things or something isn't ready yet. Thanks!
Post by: GON on Fri, 17 October 2014, 05:43:54
Hey GON, just wondering if my order has shipped yet: EAWTSVEQJ
You told me initially it would be last week, and then either Monday or Tuesday this week, but I haven't heard back from you yet about shipping.
Sorry to keep bugging you about it if you're busy with other things or something isn't ready yet. Thanks!
UPS let me know the tracking number today. I updated your order. It is scheduled to arrive you on Monday.
Post by: ceflame on Fri, 17 October 2014, 05:51:16
Hey GON, just wondering if my order has shipped yet: EAWTSVEQJ
You told me initially it would be last week, and then either Monday or Tuesday this week, but I haven't heard back from you yet about shipping.
Sorry to keep bugging you about it if you're busy with other things or something isn't ready yet. Thanks!
UPS let me know the tracking number today. I updated your order. It is scheduled to arrive you on Monday.
Alright thanks GON :D
Post by: Chedda7 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 07:49:02
Has it shipped yet?
Post by: GON on Sat, 18 October 2014, 10:06:39
GON, I am also curious about my order - YODBMIZWC.
Has it shipped yet?
As I had to sample the new TOP plate, I needed some more time.
(I tried once, but I made a mistake in modding the design for HHKB....)
I corrected the drawing and placed an order again, your order will be shipped as soon as the new housing arrives. ;)
Sorry for delay...
Post by: Elocutive on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:27:20
Will you ever make a high profile, full aluminum case?
Post by: Chedda7 on Sat, 18 October 2014, 13:45:50
GON, I am also curious about my order - YODBMIZWC.
Has it shipped yet?
As I had to sample the new TOP plate, I needed some more time.
(I tried once, but I made a mistake in modding the design for HHKB....)
I corrected the drawing and placed an order again, your order will be shipped as soon as the new housing arrives. ;)
Sorry for delay...
All good, no rush. I just wanted to make sure you hadn't forgot about me :D
Post by: yicaoyimu on Wed, 22 October 2014, 23:37:46
Post by: GON on Thu, 23 October 2014, 04:05:32
Can I still order NerD TKL PCB for KMAC and plate?
Yes, I have 3 pcs in stock. ;)
Post by: chickenNwaffles on Thu, 23 October 2014, 16:49:55
I was wondering if the White NerD 60 PCB is able to support the case and layout of the KBT Pure pro. Also, does the PCB come with the diodes and other components already soldered on? I am looking for a 60% pcb that I can just solder switches into and go.
Thanks!
Post by: GON on Fri, 24 October 2014, 15:01:08
Hello,
I was wondering if the White NerD 60 PCB is able to support the case and layout of the KBT Pure pro. Also, does the PCB come with the diodes and other components already soldered on? I am looking for a 60% pcb that I can just solder switches into and go.
Thanks!
Hi,
NerD 60 PCB is compatible with most 3rd party Poker housings.
But I can't give you an answer to your layout question because I don't know the exact layout of Pure pro.
The PCB will be shipped /w controller SMD parts soldered and pre-flashed.
You will have to add optional soldering for diodes.
Post by: chickenNwaffles on Fri, 24 October 2014, 15:19:07
Hello,
I was wondering if the White NerD 60 PCB is able to support the case and layout of the KBT Pure pro. Also, does the PCB come with the diodes and other components already soldered on? I am looking for a 60% pcb that I can just solder switches into and go.
Thanks!
Hi,
NerD 60 PCB is compatible with most 3rd party Poker housings.
But I can't give you an answer to your layout question because I don't know the exact layout of Pure pro.
The PCB will be shipped /w controller SMD parts soldered and pre-flashed.
You will have to add optional soldering for diodes.
This the pure pro layout:
http://img.alibaba.com/img/pb/926/624/794/794624926_158.jpg
Thanks for the quick answer, probably going to pick myself up one.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 24 October 2014, 15:25:32
Post by: chickenNwaffles on Fri, 24 October 2014, 15:36:08
it's not compatible with pure pro layout
Hmm, wonder if pure case is the same as the poker, if so, I will just use that layout. If all else fails, I will just have to wire everything myself.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 24 October 2014, 17:45:21
Post by: UberStinus on Sat, 25 October 2014, 06:48:48
I intend to build myself a NerD 60 with a nice clear acrylic case, problem is I live in the netherlands(EU).
as the Customs Tariffs from outside the EU are incredibly steep I was wondering whether you have any resellers in the EU e.g. Germany or the UK?
my main concern is that over a purchase of around 200$ I would have to pay 39$ for shipping and as soon as it hits the dutch borders,
A backpay on VAT ((21%) over the entirity), customs fare (again over the entirity). so If you would have a reseller of any kind in Europe that would be of epic help to me!:)
I am very much looking forward to your reply,
regards, Stinus
Post by: GON on Sat, 25 October 2014, 10:45:51
Hi GON,
I intend to build myself a NerD 60 with a nice clear acrylic case, problem is I live in the netherlands(EU).
as the Customs Tariffs from outside the EU are incredibly steep I was wondering whether you have any resellers in the EU e.g. Germany or the UK?
my main concern is that over a purchase of around 200$ I would have to pay 39$ for shipping and as soon as it hits the dutch borders,
A backpay on VAT ((21%) over the entirity), customs fare (again over the entirity). so If you would have a reseller of any kind in Europe that would be of epic help to me!:)
I am very much looking forward to your reply,
regards, Stinus
Hi UberStinus,
I don't declare full-value when shipping out the items, if the buyer told me to cover his items with insurance.
This is why I don't include invoices and don't use Logo-marked box.
I just ship in a flat(light brown) box /without any invoice, and declare it as a GIFT.
This will not make any problem to you. ;)
Contact me if you need any further help.
Thanks,
GON
Post by: UberStinus on Sat, 25 October 2014, 11:27:41
Hi GON,
I intend to build myself a NerD 60 with a nice clear acrylic case, problem is I live in the netherlands(EU).
as the Customs Tariffs from outside the EU are incredibly steep I was wondering whether you have any resellers in the EU e.g. Germany or the UK?
my main concern is that over a purchase of around 200$ I would have to pay 39$ for shipping and as soon as it hits the dutch borders,
A backpay on VAT ((21%) over the entirity), customs fare (again over the entirity). so If you would have a reseller of any kind in Europe that would be of epic help to me!:)
I am very much looking forward to your reply,
regards, Stinus
Hi UberStinus,
I don't declare full-value when shipping out the items, if the buyer told me to cover his items with insurance.
This is why I don't include invoices and don't use Logo-marked box.
I just ship in a flat(light brown) box /without any invoice, and declare it as a GIFT.
This will not make any problem to you. ;)
Contact me if you need any further help.
Thanks,
GON
I'm very glad to hear that, then I'm off to the second hurdle.
what exactly would I need to build the NerD 60, fully backlit and also with the led's on the sides?
EDIT: meaning LED Diode and resistor wise...
Post by: GON on Sat, 25 October 2014, 11:44:06
Hi GON,
I intend to build myself a NerD 60 with a nice clear acrylic case, problem is I live in the netherlands(EU).
as the Customs Tariffs from outside the EU are incredibly steep I was wondering whether you have any resellers in the EU e.g. Germany or the UK?
my main concern is that over a purchase of around 200$ I would have to pay 39$ for shipping and as soon as it hits the dutch borders,
A backpay on VAT ((21%) over the entirity), customs fare (again over the entirity). so If you would have a reseller of any kind in Europe that would be of epic help to me!:)
I am very much looking forward to your reply,
regards, Stinus
Hi UberStinus,
I don't declare full-value when shipping out the items, if the buyer told me to cover his items with insurance.
This is why I don't include invoices and don't use Logo-marked box.
I just ship in a flat(light brown) box /without any invoice, and declare it as a GIFT.
This will not make any problem to you. ;)
Contact me if you need any further help.
Thanks,
GON
I'm very glad to hear that, then I'm off to the second hurdle.
what exactly would I need to build the NerD 60, fully backlit and also with the led's on the sides?
Parts needed for a Custom KBD...
You can refer to this link
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/137-parts-needed-for-a-kbd.html
Post by: UberStinus on Sat, 25 October 2014, 12:34:00
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 25 October 2014, 13:30:35
So I would be good like this?Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/25/cb5a31fc342ce0b2c7fd7a5171f570b8.jpg)
You'll need keycaps and a cable too, but GON doesn't source those.
and get yourself some 62g springs and lube in those clears
Post by: UberStinus on Sat, 25 October 2014, 13:35:07
That I am aware of but there are standard springs in those clears right?So I would be good like this?Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/25/cb5a31fc342ce0b2c7fd7a5171f570b8.jpg)
You'll need keycaps and a cable too, but GON doesn't source those.
and get yourself some 62g springs and lube in those clears
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sat, 25 October 2014, 18:50:32
That I am aware of but there are standard springs in those clears right?So I would be good like this?Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/25/cb5a31fc342ce0b2c7fd7a5171f570b8.jpg)
You'll need keycaps and a cable too, but GON doesn't source those.
and get yourself some 62g springs and lube in those clears
Well... 62g korean springs are different than the 65g cherry mx springs that are stock in the clears
Post by: GON on Sun, 26 October 2014, 05:44:09
So I would be good like this?Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/25/cb5a31fc342ce0b2c7fd7a5171f570b8.jpg)
You'll need keycaps and a cable too, but GON doesn't source those.
and get yourself some 62g springs and lube in those clears
That I am aware of but there are standard springs in those clears right?So I would be good like this?Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/25/cb5a31fc342ce0b2c7fd7a5171f570b8.jpg)
You'll need keycaps and a cable too, but GON doesn't source those.
and get yourself some 62g springs and lube in those clears
That I am aware of but there are standard springs in those clears right?So I would be good like this?Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/25/cb5a31fc342ce0b2c7fd7a5171f570b8.jpg)
You'll need keycaps and a cable too, but GON doesn't source those.
and get yourself some 62g springs and lube in those clears
Well... 62g korean springs are different than the 65g cherry mx springs that are stock in the clears
Many guys have asked me for optional springs to be sold separately.
So I recently made enough springs - 55g / 58.5g / 62g are available at the webstore.
So far 62g springs are the most popular. These are not like stock Black springs or Clear springs.
If adjusted to the same measure method, stock black springs will be heavier than 75g and stock clears will be heavier than 80g.
Now you can order standard black 1.8M USB cables too. ;)
Post by: GON on Sun, 26 October 2014, 05:48:50
So I would be good like this?Show Image(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/25/cb5a31fc342ce0b2c7fd7a5171f570b8.jpg)
If you don't lub/tune your switches, you seem to have got all the items needed in the cart. ;)
If you want to have your switches tuned, you will need springs, switch stickers, lub for sliders(krytox), and lub for springs(not available at my webstore).
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 26 October 2014, 07:35:05
If you want to have your switches tuned, you will need springs, switch stickers, lub for sliders(krytox), and lub for springs(not available at my webstore).
For newbs (which I am one) I would rather give GON the task of tuning and supplying the springs and switch stickers because the keyboard works way better when he adds his famous touch to it.
Rest of the gear like lube can easily be bought off [CTRL]ALT or Ebay.
Post by: mathiasn on Fri, 31 October 2014, 16:15:01
any chance there'll be a winkeyless TKL ISO plate / case?
The aluminum / acrylic case is (nearly) exactly what I'm after.
Best
--
Mathias
Post by: GON on Sat, 01 November 2014, 13:25:40
If you want to have your switches tuned, you will need springs, switch stickers, lub for sliders(krytox), and lub for springs(not available at my webstore).
For newbs (which I am one) I would rather give GON the task of tuning and supplying the springs and switch stickers because the keyboard works way better when he adds his famous touch to it.
Rest of the gear like lube can easily be bought off [CTRL]ALT or Ebay.
Thanks Elrick ;)
Post by: GON on Sat, 01 November 2014, 13:29:06
Hi GON,
any chance there'll be a winkeyless TKL ISO plate / case?
The aluminum / acrylic case is (nearly) exactly what I'm after.
Best
--
Mathias
GON NS NerD TKL already supports the layout you want. ;)
You can see it here.
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/custom-kbds-w-assembly/66-gon-ns-nerd-tkl-w-tuningassembly.html
Of course, you can order the parts only not including assembly. ;)
Thanks,
GON
P.S. The mid part of NS Housings is not Acrylic but Polycarbornate which is more durable(even though they cost more...). ;)
Post by: mathiasn on Mon, 03 November 2014, 01:16:35
any chance there'll be a winkeyless TKL ISO plate / case?
GON NS NerD TKL already supports the layout you want. ;)
Yeah, sure, the PCB / plate does support that, but I'd hate the holes in the (top / key-) plate, when I choose a
1.5 / (1.0) / 1.5 / 7.0 / 1.5 / (1.0) / 1.5
bottom row layout, not installing the win-keys (marked (1.0) above).
So any chance you'll have a plate produced for that?
btw: I'd most probably order a kit ;D
Post by: pasph on Mon, 03 November 2014, 03:53:12
Alps maybe?
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 03 November 2014, 15:50:03
any chance there'll be a winkeyless TKL ISO plate / case?
GON NS NerD TKL already supports the layout you want. ;)
Yeah, sure, the PCB / plate does support that, but I'd hate the holes in the (top / key-) plate, when I choose a
1.5 / (1.0) / 1.5 / 7.0 / 1.5 / (1.0) / 1.5
bottom row layout, not installing the win-keys (marked (1.0) above).
So any chance you'll have a plate produced for that?
btw: I'd most probably order a kit ;D
Just get some blockers. It's a lot more economical to produce a plate and then source blockers elsewhere.
Or maybe GON can source them for you?
Post by: yicaoyimu on Mon, 03 November 2014, 18:12:37
With the NS NerD MX-MINI is the product line complete or you have other surprises (for this year)?
Alps maybe?
I asked Gon about NerD MX-mini before. He told me he could totally produce those PCB if there is enough demand. I think the MOQ is 50?
Post by: kitsun8 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 23:08:57
With the NS NerD MX-MINI is the product line complete or you have other surprises (for this year)?
Alps maybe?
I asked Gon about NerD MX-mini before. He told me he could totally produce those PCB if there is enough demand. I think the MOQ is 50?
maybe the MOQ will be lowered to 24 like his other ones :P
Post by: kitsun8 on Mon, 03 November 2014, 23:10:39
20 dollars for a small pack of LED's is really expensive after all :p
Thanks!
Post by: mathiasn on Tue, 04 November 2014, 01:00:57
any chance there'll be a winkeyless TKL ISO plate / case?
GON NS NerD TKL already supports the layout you want. ;)
Yeah, sure, the PCB / plate does support that, but I'd hate the holes in the (top / key-) plate, when I choose a
1.5 / (1.0) / 1.5 / 7.0 / 1.5 / (1.0) / 1.5
bottom row layout, not installing the win-keys (marked (1.0) above).
So any chance you'll have a plate produced for that?
btw: I'd most probably order a kit ;D
Just get some blockers. It's a lot more economical to produce a plate and then source blockers elsewhere.
Sorry, no way!
You think I cough up some $400 for a keyboard and then have it uglified by blockers?
It's all about style!
(You're right, it's more economical; but the looks - yuck!)
GON, can you get me a quote for such plates (3 anodized in the same color, or 3 anodized in different colors).
Post by: whentheclouds on Tue, 04 November 2014, 01:04:41
you can already order one off his website. i didn't even know he started producing them until i read pasph's postWith the NS NerD MX-MINI is the product line complete or you have other surprises (for this year)?
Alps maybe?
I asked Gon about NerD MX-mini before. He told me he could totally produce those PCB if there is enough demand. I think the MOQ is 50?
maybe the MOQ will be lowered to 24 like his other ones :P
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 04 November 2014, 07:26:25
Hey Sprit I ordered some LEDs and since my PCB hasn't shipped yet, could you combine the 2 orders and remove the shipping on the LEDs?
20 dollars for a small pack of LED's is really expensive after all :p
Sprit?
Thanks!
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Tue, 04 November 2014, 08:14:56
I'm guessing they're still delayed?
Post by: pasph on Tue, 04 November 2014, 09:37:03
you can already order one off his website. i didn't even know he started producing them until i read pasph's postWith the NS NerD MX-MINI is the product line complete or you have other surprises (for this year)?
Alps maybe?
I asked Gon about NerD MX-mini before. He told me he could totally produce those PCB if there is enough demand. I think the MOQ is 50?
maybe the MOQ will be lowered to 24 like his other ones :P
Not yet in production, those are pre-orders
Post by: GON on Tue, 04 November 2014, 12:20:26
I'm developing NerD MX-mini PCB now. ;)
It will take about 1-2 months for me to finish developing.
The order is open on my website.
But what I need now is, MOQ.....
I need at least 36+ demads to produce white PCBs. ;)
Would you plz let GH members know this? ;)
IC will be good. ;)
The price of mx-mini is not decided but it will be between 55-60 ;)
Spec is NerD mx-mini will be the same as NerD TKL Ver2.0 only except for its physical layout.
Post by: AuRinBei on Tue, 04 November 2014, 19:05:18
Post by: GON on Thu, 06 November 2014, 06:56:45
Is dark grey hard anodizing not an option anymore? I'm see it listed under anodizing type, but not under anodizing color.
Dark Grey is no more available, but Grey is still available. ;)
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 06 November 2014, 07:38:03
I finished soldering the nerd60 PCB but i can't make this key work : (http://i.imgur.com/Z9FW665.png)
Should I send you a picture of the soldered PCB so you can see if something is missing ?
Also , you're not using skype anymore ?
Post by: GON on Thu, 06 November 2014, 11:24:41
Hello GON,
I finished soldering the nerd60 PCB but i can't make this key work :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Z9FW665.png)
Should I send you a picture of the soldered PCB so you can see if something is missing ?
Also , you're not using skype anymore ?
You seem to have dropped soldering a diode located between "]" and "\(1.5x)".
The diode is "Horizontal" not vertical as others. ;)
Check it.
I use skype. But Even though it says I'm online, I might not be at the computer...
I just seldom turn off my computer... ;)
Post by: MrMen on Thu, 06 November 2014, 12:03:30
I have a nerd60 pcb, and I'm happy with it but not my bios.
I can't use it there. It seems that I can toggle n/6 kro with Fn+U, but no more succeed. Is it the right shortcut ? Or am I doing something wrong ?
By the way, can I see which is the current kro state ?
Thanks.
PS : you pcb is awesome ^^
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 06 November 2014, 13:09:13
Thanks , it was indeed that i didnt looked for horizontal diodes u_u typing on it right now . Loving it , looking up for your upcoming wireless projects !!!Hello GON,
I finished soldering the nerd60 PCB but i can't make this key work :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Z9FW665.png)
Should I send you a picture of the soldered PCB so you can see if something is missing ?
Also , you're not using skype anymore ?
You seem to have dropped soldering a diode located between "]" and "\(1.5x)".
The diode is "Horizontal" not vertical as others. ;)
Check it.
I use skype. But Even though it says I'm online, I might not be at the computer...
I just seldom turn off my computer... ;)
Post by: GON on Fri, 07 November 2014, 01:55:49
Thanks , it was indeed that i didnt looked for horizontal diodes u_u typing on it right now . Loving it , looking up for your upcoming wireless projects !!!Hello GON,
I finished soldering the nerd60 PCB but i can't make this key work :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Z9FW665.png)
Should I send you a picture of the soldered PCB so you can see if something is missing ?
Also , you're not using skype anymore ?
You seem to have dropped soldering a diode located between "]" and "\(1.5x)".
The diode is "Horizontal" not vertical as others. ;)
Check it.
I use skype. But Even though it says I'm online, I might not be at the computer...
I just seldom turn off my computer... ;)
Pleased to hear that you've resolved the issue. ;)
Post by: DanielT on Fri, 07 November 2014, 05:54:47
Where can I find more details about the command line configuration tool for the NerD60 ?
I'm also a heavy Linux user and at home I have only Linux so I would like to know how to use also the command line.
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 07 November 2014, 10:21:30
EDIT: Nevermind, I found what I looked for :))
On the other hand you have more experience than me with tuning the switches. I am not horrible but I bet you can do a better job ;)
So scratch all that. No questions anymore!
Post by: MrMen on Sat, 08 November 2014, 07:41:25
Hi Gon,
I have a nerd60 pcb, and I'm happy with it but not my bios.
I can't use it there. It seems that I can toggle n/6 kro with Fn+U, but no more succeed. Is it the right shortcut ? Or am I doing something wrong ?
By the way, can I see which is the current kro state ?
Thanks.
PS : you pcb is awesome ^^
Actually, I'm partly wrong : the keyboard is working in BIOS but not with GRUB. I think I'm missing one module or something like that.
Does anyone already face this problem ?
Edit : it's really a GRUB problem : with syslinux everything is fine.
And about the 6kro, to veriny I used aquakey to verify and it's ok.
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 13 November 2014, 14:47:12
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 13 November 2014, 16:49:36
How long does shipping usually take from Korea to the US?
If nothing gets stopped at customs, a week or so for something keyboard size. It's mostly just expensive.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Thu, 13 November 2014, 18:04:33
Post by: paobit on Tue, 18 November 2014, 21:47:28
Also how would i exactly change the layout of the keyboard? I know..I'm a big noob when it come to this.
Post by: GON on Tue, 18 November 2014, 22:21:11
Hey guys I played around with nerd_config on my new GON and i don't really know what I did. I was messing around with the leds and now the side and inswitch leds light up only when i press the Fn key? I'd like to switch it back to being on the whole time.
Also how would i exactly change the layout of the keyboard? I know..I'm a big noob when it come to this.
Would you refer to these video manuals? ;)
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/110-nerdy-gui.html
Post by: paobit on Tue, 18 November 2014, 22:34:12
Hey guys I played around with nerd_config on my new GON and i don't really know what I did. I was messing around with the leds and now the side and inswitch leds light up only when i press the Fn key? I'd like to switch it back to being on the whole time.
Also how would i exactly change the layout of the keyboard? I know..I'm a big noob when it come to this.
Would you refer to these video manuals? ;)
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/110-nerdy-gui.html
Hey GON! really nice keyboard! hmm I seem to have the nerd 2.0.0 I believe and when I run the nerdy GUI It kinda stays stuck on the "press any nerd keyboard/pad to configure" screen. I think it says I need need Nerdy GUI 1.3? Would I need that?
Post by: paobit on Tue, 18 November 2014, 22:37:00
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 23 November 2014, 07:20:55
There's still fews keys I can't make work , only speaking about the bottom row here .
(http://i.imgur.com/G8j0m2o.png)
Here is a small album showing you the soldering , also I can't activate the keys with a tool (like shown in picture 2 ).
http://imgur.com/a/03iKH
Post by: MrMen on Sun, 23 November 2014, 07:56:37
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 23 November 2014, 08:29:33
Did you also check diode ? I had the same issue. make a short over it to verify.I know very little about electronics , could you be more specific ?
Post by: MrMen on Sun, 23 November 2014, 11:25:48
la diode n'est peut etre pas bonne. Pour tester tu fait un pont avec un outil metallique entre les deux bornes. (ce que tu fais au noveau du switch) et tu refait ta manip avec le switch. Normalement ca doit marcher dans ce cas. Si c'est bon tu change la diode et tu retestes.
Post by: GON on Sun, 23 November 2014, 12:20:29
Hello GON , getting back to you now that I have time working back onto the keyboard .
There's still fews keys I can't make work , only speaking about the bottom row here .Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/G8j0m2o.png)
Here is a small album showing you the soldering , also I can't activate the keys with a tool (like shown in picture 2 ).
http://imgur.com/a/03iKH
You seem to be in France so let's try :
la diode n'est peut etre pas bonne. Pour tester tu fait un pont avec un outil metallique entre les deux bornes. (ce que tu fais au noveau du switch) et tu refait ta manip avec le switch. Normalement ca doit marcher dans ce cas. Si c'est bon tu change la diode et tu retestes.
Thanks MrMen ;)
As he told, I think this would be a matter of Diodes or Switches themselves.
PCBs are all passed BBT test when producing, so no error would be there...
Take a picture of the back of your PCB near the non-working switches if the issue is not solved even with the advice from MrMen.
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 23 November 2014, 12:27:57
(http://i.imgur.com/wkxv2cG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/HHpDeBL.jpg)
It doesn't trigger alt but spacebar while it's still configured as rAlt and lAlt on the nerdyGui .
Post by: MrMen on Sun, 23 November 2014, 12:54:41
You have to use a metalic wire between + and - of the diode also.
If you diode is not working, you won't have anything with this method.
Post by: jorgenslee on Thu, 27 November 2014, 00:40:35
Post by: GON on Thu, 27 November 2014, 07:19:25
Checked diodes , I can't seem to find a problem , however if It can help you to understand the problem whenever I do a contact between the points circled in red :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wkxv2cG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HHpDeBL.jpg)
It doesn't trigger alt but spacebar while it's still configured as rAlt and lAlt on the nerdyGui .
I think you'd better check solder joints of L-ALT and R-Alt. Reinforce them with a soldering iron.
Post by: GON on Thu, 27 November 2014, 07:20:00
How's the battery life for the 60% Nerdd V2 PCB if on wireless mode? Does it use bluetooth or another usb dongle?
Bluetooth.
Generally runs more than 24 hours. ;)
Post by: ninjadoc on Thu, 27 November 2014, 08:10:12
Hello GON , getting back to you now that I have time working back onto the keyboard .
There's still fews keys I can't make work , only speaking about the bottom row here .Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/G8j0m2o.png)
Here is a small album showing you the soldering , also I can't activate the keys with a tool (like shown in picture 2 ).
http://imgur.com/a/03iKH
I had a similar problem with a KMAC. After I replaced the switches it was fine. I had changed diodes, resoldered - didn't work. Double checked with a multimeter and everything seemed fine and the switch seemed to conduct as it should. I even removed the switch, cleaned the pads, and resoldered it since it tested OK with the multimeter.Finally changed switches - success!
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 27 November 2014, 08:14:17
Post by: argcargv on Fri, 28 November 2014, 13:08:12
Thanks!
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 30 November 2014, 10:43:02
Checked diodes , I can't seem to find a problem , however if It can help you to understand the problem whenever I do a contact between the points circled in red :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wkxv2cG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HHpDeBL.jpg)
It doesn't trigger alt but spacebar while it's still configured as rAlt and lAlt on the nerdyGui .
I think you'd better check solder joints of L-ALT and R-Alt. Reinforce them with a soldering iron.
Well I worked on it today , no pictures for the moment , but I changed some of the diodes aswell as switches , still the same 5 keys not registering .
I have some solder points that are way worse than that , and they work just fine .
What pictures can I provide you so you can help me ?
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 30 November 2014, 18:44:51
Checked diodes , I can't seem to find a problem , however if It can help you to understand the problem whenever I do a contact between the points circled in red :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wkxv2cG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HHpDeBL.jpg)
It doesn't trigger alt but spacebar while it's still configured as rAlt and lAlt on the nerdyGui .
I think you'd better check solder joints of L-ALT and R-Alt. Reinforce them with a soldering iron.
Well I worked on it today , no pictures for the moment , but I changed some of the diodes aswell as switches , still the same 5 keys not registering .
I have some solder points that are way worse than that , and they work just fine .
What pictures can I provide you so you can help me ?
Try remapping the keys - those keys may be registered as something else.
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 01 December 2014, 01:42:36
Checked diodes , I can't seem to find a problem , however if It can help you to understand the problem whenever I do a contact between the points circled in red :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wkxv2cG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HHpDeBL.jpg)
It doesn't trigger alt but spacebar while it's still configured as rAlt and lAlt on the nerdyGui .
I think you'd better check solder joints of L-ALT and R-Alt. Reinforce them with a soldering iron.
Well I worked on it today , no pictures for the moment , but I changed some of the diodes aswell as switches , still the same 5 keys not registering .
I have some solder points that are way worse than that , and they work just fine .
What pictures can I provide you so you can help me ?
Try remapping the keys - those keys may be registered as something else.
Already tried that , changed nothing
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 01 December 2014, 17:08:52
Post by: GON on Tue, 02 December 2014, 02:52:53
Hi Gon, I made an order with Nerd PCB 2.0 last week, when do you think my order will be shipped?
Thanks!
It would have been shipped now if it didn't include any parts to be CNC-machined. ;)
Post by: GON on Tue, 02 December 2014, 04:24:52
Checked diodes , I can't seem to find a problem , however if It can help you to understand the problem whenever I do a contact between the points circled in red :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wkxv2cG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HHpDeBL.jpg)
It doesn't trigger alt but spacebar while it's still configured as rAlt and lAlt on the nerdyGui .
I think you'd better check solder joints of L-ALT and R-Alt. Reinforce them with a soldering iron.
Well I worked on it today , no pictures for the moment , but I changed some of the diodes aswell as switches , still the same 5 keys not registering .
I have some solder points that are way worse than that , and they work just fine .
What pictures can I provide you so you can help me ?
Try remapping the keys - those keys may be registered as something else.
Already tried that , changed nothing
I will add Matrix data for NerD PCB tonight at http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/131-nerd-pcbs.html
If you don't find it in 5 hours, send me a mail.
I could forget it due to much work... ;(
Post by: GON on Tue, 02 December 2014, 14:16:14
Checked diodes , I can't seem to find a problem , however if It can help you to understand the problem whenever I do a contact between the points circled in red :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wkxv2cG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HHpDeBL.jpg)
It doesn't trigger alt but spacebar while it's still configured as rAlt and lAlt on the nerdyGui .
I think you'd better check solder joints of L-ALT and R-Alt. Reinforce them with a soldering iron.
Well I worked on it today , no pictures for the moment , but I changed some of the diodes aswell as switches , still the same 5 keys not registering .
I have some solder points that are way worse than that , and they work just fine .
What pictures can I provide you so you can help me ?
Try remapping the keys - those keys may be registered as something else.
Already tried that , changed nothing
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/131-nerd-pcbs.html
I uploaded Matrix data of NerD 2.0 PCBs.
If you know how to use this information to test and fix your PCB, this will surely be a help.
If not, you'd better send your PCB to someone who can use this infor for testing&fixing your board.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 12 December 2014, 13:14:32
Thanks!
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 12 December 2014, 21:34:18
Just saw on Massdrop some of your keyboards in the voting section there;
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/gons-keyboardworks---korean-custom-keyboards
Sorry for posting it here just in case someone has already done it but you need more people here on Geekhack to get in and start voting because this could be a real good chance for everyone to finally purchase a GON keyboard collectively and enjoy a low price tag to boot.
Cheers......
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 13 December 2014, 00:59:50
Gon,
Just saw on Massdrop some of your keyboards in the voting section there;
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/gons-keyboardworks---korean-custom-keyboards
Sorry for posting it here just in case someone has already done it but you need more people here on Geekhack to get in and start voting because this could be a real good chance for everyone to finally purchase a GON keyboard collectively and enjoy a low price tag to boot.
Cheers......
If I remember what I heard correctly, Massdrop already approached GON about working together and GON declined.
Post by: Lpwl on Sat, 13 December 2014, 01:11:13
I didn't know that ;D
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Sun, 14 December 2014, 11:20:46
Post by: Lpwl on Sun, 14 December 2014, 12:00:44
Post by: GON on Wed, 17 December 2014, 09:12:07
Gon,
Just saw on Massdrop some of your keyboards in the voting section there;
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/gons-keyboardworks---korean-custom-keyboards
Sorry for posting it here just in case someone has already done it but you need more people here on Geekhack to get in and start voting because this could be a real good chance for everyone to finally purchase a GON keyboard collectively and enjoy a low price tag to boot.
Cheers......
If I remember what I heard correctly, Massdrop already approached GON about working together and GON declined.
I don't remember contact from Massdrop. ;)
Maybe... they would have not contacted me, or the contact date is too old so I don't remember...
If the qty is big enough, why not co-working. ;)
(But even if I co-work with Massdrop, I can't offer massive assembly service... because I have only "ONE" body... lol)
Post by: Jason_IRL on Wed, 17 December 2014, 09:34:39
A Massdrop edition (kinda like the AKG K7XX headphones) would be really cool!
Even if it was just parts.
Post by: GON on Wed, 17 December 2014, 09:45:39
ooooh.
A Massdrop edition (kinda like the AKG K7XX headphones) would be really cool!
Even if it was just parts.
Right,
In case of co-work, it will be about "Parts" ;)
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 17 December 2014, 21:13:06
(But even if I co-work with Massdrop, I can't offer massive assembly service... because I have only "ONE" body... lol)
Totally understand, best to keep it small because how could anyone want an artist to mass produce his work for so many people?
It's like asking Donatello or Giotto to start mass production of their masterpieces for everyone out there, just can't be done when you're dealing with unique pieces of art.
Post by: xybre on Mon, 22 December 2014, 17:30:40
I asked for an update on 2014-12-11 and got no answer. A week later I asked again on 2014-12-19 and I still haven't heard anything. I tried to add you on Skype and it just says "pending contact request".
GeekHack says you were around today (2014-12-22) so hopefully you see this.
If there's something about my order that's causing a problem, please let me know.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Mon, 22 December 2014, 18:27:41
Hey GON I placed an order on 2014-10-05, and I asked when it would be shipped on 2014-10-24. I was told "beginning of December".
I asked for an update on 2014-12-11 and got no answer. A week later I asked again on 2014-12-19 and I still haven't heard anything. I tried to add you on Skype and it just says "pending contact request".
GeekHack says you were around today (2014-12-22) so hopefully you see this.
If there's something about my order that's causing a problem, please let me know.
I also sent you an email about when you would ship the order placed I in October, I would appreciate a response as well. Thanks GON.
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Mon, 22 December 2014, 23:37:55
Don't forget he was going through some manufacturing difficulties
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 23 December 2014, 00:56:08
Hey GON I placed an order on 2014-10-05, and I asked when it would be shipped on 2014-10-24. I was told "beginning of December".
I asked for an update on 2014-12-11 and got no answer. A week later I asked again on 2014-12-19 and I still haven't heard anything. I tried to add you on Skype and it just says "pending contact request".
GeekHack says you were around today (2014-12-22) so hopefully you see this.
If there's something about my order that's causing a problem, please let me know.
GON talked to me about this issue with my order from middle of October. His CNC manufacturers machine broke down and were unable to fulfill orders for almost a month I think. This delayed a lot of stuff but he has since but in extra orders to avoid this. GON said his manufacturer is back up and running. Also he said that he made a change to the GON hhkb housing so basically he delayed mine further so that I get the updated housing. Don't fret about him flaking on you GON is just very busy!Hey GON I placed an order on 2014-10-05, and I asked when it would be shipped on 2014-10-24. I was told "beginning of December".
I asked for an update on 2014-12-11 and got no answer. A week later I asked again on 2014-12-19 and I still haven't heard anything. I tried to add you on Skype and it just says "pending contact request".
GeekHack says you were around today (2014-12-22) so hopefully you see this.
If there's something about my order that's causing a problem, please let me know.
I also sent you an email about when you would ship the order placed I in October, I would appreciate a response as well. Thanks GON.
Post by: xybre on Tue, 23 December 2014, 18:18:59
GON talked to me about this issue with my order from middle of October. His CNC manufacturers machine broke down and were unable to fulfill orders for almost a month I think. This delayed a lot of stuff but he has since but in extra orders to avoid this. GON said his manufacturer is back up and running. Also he said that he made a change to the GON hhkb housing so basically he delayed mine further so that I get the updated housing. Don't fret about him flaking on you GON is just very busy!
Thanks, I know GON has a very good reputation, and he's always been very responsive until now, but it makes me worry a bit. I also want to make sure my requests weren't a huge burden (he was going to do some stuff with the keyswitches for me).
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 24 December 2014, 10:10:39
"No payment modules have been installed"
What do i do? how do i pay? you take Paypal right?
Nevermind i figured it out, sorry! apparently firefox isn't compatible on my computer.
Post by: Alternate on Tue, 30 December 2014, 02:03:47
I was just wondering if your Crystal MobiK keyboard supports a Tsangan style winkeyless layout like this (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/d8192f44643fc0e7cf034fee6b27ee9f)? I really want to pick one of these up but I think I would like it even more if I could get that layout on it.
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 30 December 2014, 02:16:59
(http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/190-thickbox_default/nerd-mobik-pcb.jpg)
Post by: xybre on Wed, 31 December 2014, 11:15:22
GON talked to me about this issue with my order from middle of October. His CNC manufacturers machine broke down and were unable to fulfill orders for almost a month I think. This delayed a lot of stuff but he has since but in extra orders to avoid this. GON said his manufacturer is back up and running. Also he said that he made a change to the GON hhkb housing so basically he delayed mine further so that I get the updated housing. Don't fret about him flaking on you GON is just very busy!
Thanks, I know GON has a very good reputation, and he's always been very responsive until now, but it makes me worry a bit. I also want to make sure my requests weren't a huge burden (he was going to do some stuff with the keyswitches for me).
Its been another week, and I still haven't heard anything from GON. :( Has anyone heard from him? He hasn't posted on GH since the 17th. Did something happen to him?
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 31 December 2014, 11:43:26
Literally talked to him yesterday. Not sure why he isn't responding..GON talked to me about this issue with my order from middle of October. His CNC manufacturers machine broke down and were unable to fulfill orders for almost a month I think. This delayed a lot of stuff but he has since but in extra orders to avoid this. GON said his manufacturer is back up and running. Also he said that he made a change to the GON hhkb housing so basically he delayed mine further so that I get the updated housing. Don't fret about him flaking on you GON is just very busy!
Thanks, I know GON has a very good reputation, and he's always been very responsive until now, but it makes me worry a bit. I also want to make sure my requests weren't a huge burden (he was going to do some stuff with the keyswitches for me).
Its been another week, and I still haven't heard anything from GON. :( Has anyone heard from him? He hasn't posted on GH since the 17th. Did something happen to him?
Post by: faceyourfaces on Wed, 31 December 2014, 12:00:39
Literally talked to him yesterday. Not sure why he isn't responding..GON talked to me about this issue with my order from middle of October. His CNC manufacturers machine broke down and were unable to fulfill orders for almost a month I think. This delayed a lot of stuff but he has since but in extra orders to avoid this. GON said his manufacturer is back up and running. Also he said that he made a change to the GON hhkb housing so basically he delayed mine further so that I get the updated housing. Don't fret about him flaking on you GON is just very busy!
Thanks, I know GON has a very good reputation, and he's always been very responsive until now, but it makes me worry a bit. I also want to make sure my requests weren't a huge burden (he was going to do some stuff with the keyswitches for me).
Its been another week, and I still haven't heard anything from GON. :( Has anyone heard from him? He hasn't posted on GH since the 17th. Did something happen to him?
Where? I added him on Skype last night but he hasn't responded to the request yet.
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 31 December 2014, 12:24:37
Sent him a pm on geekhack but then got a hold of him on Skype.Literally talked to him yesterday. Not sure why he isn't responding..GON talked to me about this issue with my order from middle of October. His CNC manufacturers machine broke down and were unable to fulfill orders for almost a month I think. This delayed a lot of stuff but he has since but in extra orders to avoid this. GON said his manufacturer is back up and running. Also he said that he made a change to the GON hhkb housing so basically he delayed mine further so that I get the updated housing. Don't fret about him flaking on you GON is just very busy!
Thanks, I know GON has a very good reputation, and he's always been very responsive until now, but it makes me worry a bit. I also want to make sure my requests weren't a huge burden (he was going to do some stuff with the keyswitches for me).
Its been another week, and I still haven't heard anything from GON. :( Has anyone heard from him? He hasn't posted on GH since the 17th. Did something happen to him?
Where? I added him on Skype last night but he hasn't responded to the request yet.
Post by: avtar on Wed, 31 December 2014, 13:31:57
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Wed, 31 December 2014, 13:57:06
Post by: faceyourfaces on Wed, 31 December 2014, 17:05:40
It would be reassuring to hear about revised timelines or updates of any sort. I emailed a couple of weeks ago but haven't heard anything.
Agreed, I'm pretty worried about this.
Edit: He accepted my Skype request, never mind.
Post by: SeeThruHead on Sun, 04 January 2015, 17:37:49
Post by: DanielT on Mon, 05 January 2015, 04:03:09
Post by: SeeThruHead on Mon, 05 January 2015, 11:52:12
For spaceFN you would hold down space and it would act as FN, but if you press and release space quickly it would act as a normal spacebar. There is some logic in there that from what I can tell most programmable pcbs do not support. Tmk firmware however can do it but I would have no idea how to flash it to gons pcb. I will look into that. Thanks.
Post by: meow a cat on Mon, 05 January 2015, 14:15:07
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 05 January 2015, 14:24:57
I was just wondering if anyone can tell me if any of the GON TKL cases are capable of holding a Phantom PCB?
Don't think so.
Post by: meow a cat on Mon, 05 January 2015, 14:34:56
I was just wondering if anyone can tell me if any of the GON TKL cases are capable of holding a Phantom PCB?
Don't think so.
Thanks for the quick reply! :)
I suppose he could do a one-off case if he wanted, but it would probably cost a pretty penny..
Thanks anyway!
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 08 January 2015, 01:13:21
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 08 January 2015, 02:21:42
Anyone here from GON over the last week? Been trying to get a hold of him..
Probably the poor guy is busy soldering thousands of switches onto his pcb's to complete numerous keyboard orders. Remember he is on his own with this business so that means he has to do everything by himself with no help from anyone. You'll be lucky if you can actually receive a pm from him anytime soon due to completing all the orders.
Just be patient because he will eventually read and respond to everyone's messages, just give the guy some space until he complete's his keyboards.
Post by: Soulpyre on Sat, 10 January 2015, 08:03:53
Post by: Evo_Spec on Sat, 10 January 2015, 08:06:29
Anyone here from GON over the last week? Been trying to get a hold of him..
Probably the poor guy is busy soldering thousands of switches onto his pcb's to complete numerous keyboard orders. Remember he is on his own with this business so that means he has to do everything by himself with no help from anyone. You'll be lucky if you can actually receive a pm from him anytime soon due to completing all the orders.
Just be patient because he will eventually read and respond to everyone's messages, just give the guy some space until he complete's his keyboards.
+1 to this since he just took a bunch of orders for free SMT soldering for the DTA 2014 Limited Edition nerd TKL PCB's to make his life harder.
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 10 January 2015, 09:41:45
Forgot about that.. Makes so much sense now.Anyone here from GON over the last week? Been trying to get a hold of him..
Probably the poor guy is busy soldering thousands of switches onto his pcb's to complete numerous keyboard orders. Remember he is on his own with this business so that means he has to do everything by himself with no help from anyone. You'll be lucky if you can actually receive a pm from him anytime soon due to completing all the orders.
Just be patient because he will eventually read and respond to everyone's messages, just give the guy some space until he complete's his keyboards.
+1 to this since he just took a bunch of orders for free SMT soldering for the DTA 2014 Limited Edition nerd TKL PCB's to make his life harder.
Post by: Azumia on Sat, 10 January 2015, 23:11:53
I have him added on Skype and I spoke with him like the day after placing my order, but I haven't been able to contact him since December 18th. I understand that he's busy, but when I drop ~$600 on a keyboard, it makes me uncomfortable to not be able to get ahold of the guy who's making it for me. :/
I've asked him several times if I could get an update on my order and have yet to receive a response at all since December 18th.
Post by: yobinad on Sun, 11 January 2015, 08:08:03
He must be very busy right now.
I guess we have to be patiente :D
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 11 January 2015, 10:46:25
Building a board takes time and he is a one man show ;)
I ordered stuff a couple of times from GON and it took some time, it's normal.
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 11 January 2015, 10:51:50
Are other people still having trouble getting ahold of GON?You just placed your order so honestly he isn't going to have much of an update for you that soon.. I ordered mine mid October and I'm still waiting. He is probably swamped with smd soldering because of that special DT awards group buy.
I have him added on Skype and I spoke with him like the day after placing my order, but I haven't been able to contact him since December 18th. I understand that he's busy, but when I drop ~$600 on a keyboard, it makes me uncomfortable to not be able to get ahold of the guy who's making it for me. :/
I've asked him several times if I could get an update on my order and have yet to receive a response at all since December 18th.
Post by: cphead on Tue, 13 January 2015, 10:41:36
Post by: avtar on Wed, 14 January 2015, 15:56:42
Ordered late September. He told me 2 weeks on Oct 20, waiting for response :)
I ordered late September as well and then the order was affected by the CNC manufacturing issues. Which is fine, unexpected stuff happens. But I haven't heard back regarding where things currently stand, if there is a new time estimate, or at the very least if all the parts for the order are with GON now.
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 14 January 2015, 16:53:21
Ordered late September. He told me 2 weeks on Oct 20, waiting for response :)
I ordered late September as well and then the order was affected by the CNC manufacturing issues. Which is fine, unexpected stuff happens. But I haven't heard back regarding where things currently stand, if there is a new time estimate, or at the very least if all the parts for the order are with GON now.
Last time I talked to him was 2 weeks ago at the end of December since then I don't think many people have been able to reach him. On his GH profile it says he was recently active though.
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 14 January 2015, 20:40:34
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 15 January 2015, 01:57:40
Just spoke with him via Skype today. I'm sure he's busy with CTRLALT's GB, his own GB and Massdrops GB.Massdrop group buy?
Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 15 January 2015, 03:41:23
+1 ?Just spoke with him via Skype today. I'm sure he's busy with CTRLALT's GB, his own GB and Massdrops GB.Massdrop group buy?
Post by: tjweir on Thu, 15 January 2015, 11:33:33
+1 ?Just spoke with him via Skype today. I'm sure he's busy with CTRLALT's GB, his own GB and Massdrops GB.Massdrop group buy?
I think this: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/gons-keyboard-kits
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 15 January 2015, 11:35:31
+1 ?Just spoke with him via Skype today. I'm sure he's busy with CTRLALT's GB, his own GB and Massdrops GB.Massdrop group buy?
I think this: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/gons-keyboard-kits
Sorry guys...I meant this one:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66588.0
The DTA 2014 Limited Edition GON Nerd TKL.
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 15 January 2015, 11:41:09
+1 ?Just spoke with him via Skype today. I'm sure he's busy with CTRLALT's GB, his own GB and Massdrops GB.Massdrop group buy?
I think this: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/gons-keyboard-kits
Sorry guys...I meant this one:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66588.0
The DTA 2014 Limited Edition GON Nerd TKL.
Ahh okay. Honestly I can see GON offering a limited amount of unbuilt kits from Massdrop but oh god I hope he never decides to do a buy with them where he builds all the boards.. Jeez that would be a nightmare.
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 15 January 2015, 11:48:55
+1 ?Just spoke with him via Skype today. I'm sure he's busy with CTRLALT's GB, his own GB and Massdrops GB.Massdrop group buy?
I think this: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/gons-keyboard-kits
Sorry guys...I meant this one:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=66588.0
The DTA 2014 Limited Edition GON Nerd TKL.
Ahh okay. Honestly I can see GON offering a limited amount of unbuilt kits from Massdrop but oh god I hope he never decides to do a buy with them where he builds all the boards.. Jeez that would be a nightmare.
I'm sure he's pretty much overloaded with tons of requests, but I can assure you he's still alive ;).
Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 18 January 2015, 14:47:12
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 18 January 2015, 15:35:18
GON is one man and so many want one ofhis creations, some waiting is normal.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Sun, 18 January 2015, 17:58:52
Post by: Dreamre on Sun, 18 January 2015, 21:38:00
I can guarantee everyone that you'll get your stuff! He's just been really busy.
Post by: magically on Mon, 19 January 2015, 01:24:12
Does anyone have any photos/pics of the making of Gon's boards?
Post by: tjweir on Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:02:33
I had the same experience, not a ton of communication, but the finished product he sent to me was basically perfect and packed well.
Here is one of them:
http://i.imgur.com/f4qJP68.jpg
Post by: radio_killah on Mon, 19 January 2015, 11:28:05
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:33:11
I'm just trying to get some sort of update from him.. It has been almost 3 weeks since I last heard from him and its been 3 months since I ordered... :confused:
Did you add him on skype? He's usually fairly responsive there.
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 20 January 2015, 21:56:21
I'm just trying to get some sort of update from him.. It has been almost 3 weeks since I last heard from him and its been 3 months since I ordered... :confused:
Did you add him on skype? He's usually fairly responsive there.
Yup. Added him on skype a while ago. No response. Sent about 10 messages no response. He was responsive before..
Edit: Finally got a hold of him. He has been working like a mad man apparently.
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 24 January 2015, 03:45:11
Edit: Finally got a hold of him. He has been working like a mad man apparently.
See, everyone here getting all worried about their keyboards being built yet the man has been working on them as we speak.
Time for you lot here to pour some relax juice, sit back and contemplate your ignorance concerning Gon because he is always building more and more keyboards for everyone on this planet, while you lot sit here on this forum spreading fear and doubt as normal.
If you can't wait for anything to be built, imagine how you'll be when it comes time to buy a brand new G-Class Merc?
Post by: Azumia on Mon, 26 January 2015, 22:02:46
See, everyone here getting all worried about their keyboards being built yet the man has been working on them as we speak.
Time for you lot here to pour some relax juice, sit back and contemplate your ignorance concerning Gon because he is always building more and more keyboards for everyone on this planet, while you lot sit here on this forum spreading fear and doubt as normal.
If you can't wait for anything to be built, imagine how you'll be when it comes time to buy a brand new G-Class Merc?
Before I say this, I'd like to point out, I have A TON of respect for GON and I think his work is incredible. Hands down the most awesome keyboards I have ever seen.
I just ordered a car in October. I patiently waited the two months for it to get here from the factory. The difference is that I received weekly updates from the dealership and the owner's lounge section of the car manufacturer's website had a progress tracker.
I understand that GON is busy, but it's worrisome to pay $653 for a keyboard and not be able to get ahold of the person who's making it. The lead time section of the website says '4-10 weeks' and it's been 8 weeks since I ordered, so it makes me nervous when I pay so much for something and don't receive any updates. I'm sure the other people posting about not being able to get ahold of GON are just nervous as well, as his products are not cheap.
We all understand he's busy, but we're all just eager to receive our orders and updates are comforting.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Tue, 27 January 2015, 13:36:54
See, everyone here getting all worried about their keyboards being built yet the man has been working on them as we speak.
Time for you lot here to pour some relax juice, sit back and contemplate your ignorance concerning Gon because he is always building more and more keyboards for everyone on this planet, while you lot sit here on this forum spreading fear and doubt as normal.
If you can't wait for anything to be built, imagine how you'll be when it comes time to buy a brand new G-Class Merc?
Before I say this, I'd like to point out, I have A TON of respect for GON and I think his work is incredible. Hands down the most awesome keyboards I have ever seen.
I just ordered a car in October. I patiently waited the two months for it to get here from the factory. The difference is that I received weekly updates from the dealership and the owner's lounge section of the car manufacturer's website had a progress tracker.
I understand that GON is busy, but it's worrisome to pay $653 for a keyboard and not be able to get ahold of the person who's making it. The lead time section of the website says '4-10 weeks' and it's been 8 weeks since I ordered, so it makes me nervous when I pay so much for something and don't receive any updates. I'm sure the other people posting about not being able to get ahold of GON are just nervous as well, as his products are not cheap.
We all understand he's busy, but we're all just eager to receive our orders and updates are comforting.
Agreed. I'm disappointed that I'm still waiting many weeks after the lead time but it would be a lot easier to digest if we were given updates instead of having to go out of our way to contact him. It is worrisome dropping that much on a keyboard and not receiving responses to emails and Skype messages.
Post by: yobinad on Tue, 27 January 2015, 16:39:04
A update would be apreciated
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 28 January 2015, 01:07:35
Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 28 January 2015, 02:51:20
Post by: faceyourfaces on Wed, 28 January 2015, 08:32:59
My advice just google what time it is in south korea and get on skype when it is around mid day in Seoul. Then just message GON. That is the best time to reach him. If you just contact him via message and sign off it will do no good. I was able to get a hold of him this way. He assured me that he is making head way with everyone's orders but is still swamped. I too am waiting for something and it is super frustrating but GON has very popular which has given him lots of work as well.
Yeah, the one time I actually got in contact with him was around 2 am.
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 28 January 2015, 09:36:42
There is an option: On-PCB Backlight LED for the mx mini. Can anyone tell me what this is? Any picture of this in real life?This is the side led color. On his cases there is a middle acrylic layer. The back LEDs on the PCB will shine though this middle layer. Check the post your GONs thread in the media section for pictures of this.
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 28 January 2015, 11:20:22
Post by: jaemzp on Wed, 28 January 2015, 14:05:00
There is an option: On-PCB Backlight LED for the mx mini. Can anyone tell me what this is? Any picture of this in real life?
http://www.corsair.com/en/landing/mx-rgb (http://www.corsair.com/en/landing/mx-rgb) look at the video thumbnail. The green led light is mounted to the pcb which then shines through the rgb switch. This is essentially how the led is mounted.. literally on the pcb. Choose this option if you're selecting a acrylic case for a build.. but I think if you're getting a regular case you should choose in-switch led lighting.
If I'm wrong feel free to correct me.
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 28 January 2015, 15:50:20
There is an option: On-PCB Backlight LED for the mx mini. Can anyone tell me what this is? Any picture of this in real life?
http://www.corsair.com/en/landing/mx-rgb (http://www.corsair.com/en/landing/mx-rgb) look at the video thumbnail. The green led light is mounted to the pcb which then shines through the rgb switch. This is essentially how the led is mounted.. literally on the pcb. Choose this option if you're selecting a acrylic case for a build.. but I think if you're getting a regular case you should choose in-switch led lighting.
If I'm wrong feel free to correct me.
You're totally correct. In order for these LEDs to shine through, you'll need an acrylic plate (has to be see through) in order for the light to shine through. Having a metal plate will negate this.
Post by: radio_killah on Fri, 30 January 2015, 22:41:49
Post by: mattycee on Wed, 04 February 2015, 01:30:18
Thank You
Post by: Dreamre on Wed, 04 February 2015, 18:57:03
Quick question I saw some post about using Gon keyboard with macs. I also understand thats not supported on macs, but does it still work on mac osx?
Thank You
I'm sure it'll work, but the special functions may not.
Post by: mattycee on Wed, 04 February 2015, 22:48:43
-Thank You for any help.
Post by: Vibex on Wed, 04 February 2015, 23:04:02
Post by: mattycee on Wed, 04 February 2015, 23:33:03
Post by: Vibex on Wed, 04 February 2015, 23:38:38
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 05 February 2015, 00:19:57
Post by: mattycee on Thu, 05 February 2015, 00:38:56
I'll give it a try tomorrow with a MBA if no one hasn't.
;D Thank You!!!! Youre totally awesome! Really want to get a Gon keyboard
Post by: yobinad on Thu, 05 February 2015, 02:07:21
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Thu, 05 February 2015, 04:52:11
I saw someone use SMD LEDs for backlight(not the side LEDs) from under Gateron switches. Maybe it was Zeal.
I want to ask if that build used the regular LED pads for the SMDs or if there were dedicated lands for SMD backlight.
Post by: Dreamre on Thu, 05 February 2015, 11:52:18
I have a noob question that I know there is an answer to, but I can't find the thread anymore...
I saw someone use SMD LEDs for backlight(not the side LEDs) from under Gateron switches. Maybe it was Zeal.
I want to ask if that build used the regular LED pads for the SMDs or if there were dedicated lands for SMD backlight.
I'm pretty sure the PCB has dedicated LED pads for the SMD LEDs. These SMD LEDs are only good if your plate is transparent/see-through. Otherwise, I'd stick with the traditional 3mm/2x3x4 LEDs.
Post by: mattycee on Thu, 05 February 2015, 12:47:46
You can use karabiner to remap on osx. Software remap
mapping is not my main concern as long as it works i can map it from a windows computer to use on my mac. Varmilo keyboard had trouble with connecting to the mac and people tried to re-write new firmwares for that keyboard to make it work. Thats what worries me :(
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Thu, 05 February 2015, 17:24:03
I have a noob question that I know there is an answer to, but I can't find the thread anymore...
I saw someone use SMD LEDs for backlight(not the side LEDs) from under Gateron switches. Maybe it was Zeal.
I want to ask if that build used the regular LED pads for the SMDs or if there were dedicated lands for SMD backlight.
I'm pretty sure the PCB has dedicated LED pads for the SMD LEDs. These SMD LEDs are only good if your plate is transparent/see-through. Otherwise, I'd stick with the traditional 3mm/2x3x4 LEDs.
Assuming there is, would it be possible to use both the SMD LEDs and the in switch LEDs at the same time?
Would they run parallel off the same resistor?
Is there enough current to power two LEDs per switch?
Does USB provide enough power for 2 LEDs per switch and side LEDs on top of that?
I'm an electrical noob and I don't even know if what I'm asking is considered sane.
In the case that there aren't dedicated backlight SMD pads, I've already thought of a way to put 2 LEDs per switch anyway, I don't have a clue if it works.
If there are dedicated pads, I think my idea can be applied for 3 LEDs per switch, but alas, I have no experience in any of this so it's all just my demented fantasy. :p
Post by: mattycee on Fri, 06 February 2015, 00:20:07
I'll give it a try tomorrow with a MBA if no one hasn't.
Hey Dreamre were you able to give it a try with a mac? :p
Post by: DanielT on Sat, 07 February 2015, 15:30:42
I'll give it a try tomorrow with a MBA if no one hasn't.
Hey Dreamre were you able to give it a try with a mac? :p
I use my boards with LINUX and they work like a charm :cool:
Post by: mattycee on Sun, 08 February 2015, 00:51:27
Post by: cphead on Sun, 08 February 2015, 02:12:14
Post by: yobinad on Sun, 08 February 2015, 08:16:21
Waiting on a KMAC plate and pcb combo from September. I've seen the "update", just curious if anyone received theirs yet?
Where did you see the update? GONs website?
Post by: avtar on Sun, 08 February 2015, 09:27:26
Where did you see the update? GONs website?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68275.0
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 08 February 2015, 11:43:33
Waiting on a KMAC plate and pcb combo from September. I've seen the "update", just curious if anyone received theirs yet?When I last talked to GON he said he had 2 more orders before mine he had to get done and I had ordered in mod October. So if you are still waiting on something from September yours should be done soon.
Post by: rmw2013 on Sun, 08 February 2015, 22:02:05
Post by: Evo_Spec on Sun, 08 February 2015, 22:05:44
Where did you see the update? GONs website?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68275.0
I totally missed this too, thanks!
Post by: MrMen on Tue, 10 February 2015, 16:29:45
Do you know if mxmini Nerd pcb is done ? And does the housing are available or only on pre order ?
Does anyone have one of this beauty ?
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 10 February 2015, 16:49:48
Hi all, I'm thinking about affording me a Gon.
Do you know if mxmini Nerd pcb is done ? And does the housing are available or only on pre order ?
Does anyone have one of this beauty ?
PCBs and housings are probably pre-made, the case however will be anodized to whatever color you choose for your particular board. There are a few pictures of a MX mini, most notable is the orange one made by Hoffmanmyster. Just note that even though some items may already be manufactured, GON still will take about 2 months to assemble a board. If you choose to assemble it yourself I am sure it would take at least a month to ship since anodizing can take up to about 3 weeks.
Edit: Link to Hoffman's board (currently in possession of Gl1tch3d) https://www.flickr.com/photos/99522542@N03/14760792914/
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:05:48
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:08:51
So I ordered a GON HHKB earlier this week, I plan to assemble it myself. Is the default housing ANSI? I didn't see any option to select ANSI or ISO and I don't want to end up with an ISO top plate.
I remember him saying he changed a few things on the newest version of the HHKB plate. Not sure if you can see it in detail but my forum picture is a HHKB plate from GON. I think it is default ansi.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 10 February 2015, 18:15:54
So I ordered a GON HHKB earlier this week, I plan to assemble it myself. Is the default housing ANSI? I didn't see any option to select ANSI or ISO and I don't want to end up with an ISO top plate.
I remember him saying he changed a few things on the newest version of the HHKB plate. Not sure if you can see it in detail but my forum picture is a HHKB plate from GON. I think it is default ansi.
When are you going to assemble yours? I'm just shocked that I liked the HHKB layout enough to sell my poker and all the stuff associated with it to buy a GON. :))
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 10 February 2015, 23:00:08
So I ordered a GON HHKB earlier this week, I plan to assemble it myself. Is the default housing ANSI? I didn't see any option to select ANSI or ISO and I don't want to end up with an ISO top plate.
I remember him saying he changed a few things on the newest version of the HHKB plate. Not sure if you can see it in detail but my forum picture is a HHKB plate from GON. I think it is default ansi.
When are you going to assemble yours? I'm just shocked that I liked the HHKB layout enough to sell my poker and all the stuff associated with it to buy a GON. :))
GON is assembling mine. He should be sending it out by the end of the week. At least that is what he told me. But I sold my poker long ago to fund this. Best decision ever. But yeah HHKB layout all the way (or at least having the CTRL replace the Capslock). Kind of hard to do the HHKB on a 84 key layout.
Post by: ceflame on Tue, 10 February 2015, 23:34:57
So I ordered a GON HHKB earlier this week, I plan to assemble it myself. Is the default housing ANSI? I didn't see any option to select ANSI or ISO and I don't want to end up with an ISO top plate.
I remember him saying he changed a few things on the newest version of the HHKB plate. Not sure if you can see it in detail but my forum picture is a HHKB plate from GON. I think it is default ansi.
When are you going to assemble yours? I'm just shocked that I liked the HHKB layout enough to sell my poker and all the stuff associated with it to buy a GON. :))
GON is assembling mine. He should be sending it out by the end of the week. At least that is what he told me. But I sold my poker long ago to fund this. Best decision ever. But yeah HHKB layout all the way (or at least having the CTRL replace the Capslock). Kind of hard to do the HHKB on a 84 key layout.
Haha GON told me he thought that he could ship out my order within a week.. 2 weeks ago :-\
Though I don't blame him, he's got a lot on his plate to take care of. My order is just bare PCBs, parts and an acrylic tkl case though. Can't live without his NerD PCB keymapper.. so I'm putting one in this lz-gh housing.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 10 February 2015, 23:40:11
Yeah I think I'm in for quite a long wait, I also ordered screws and feet anodized in a different color. I still look at my email every day hoping GON happened to have everything on hand. I know that isn't a possibility but its keeping me occupied. :)) My goal is finishing it by Keycon.So I ordered a GON HHKB earlier this week, I plan to assemble it myself. Is the default housing ANSI? I didn't see any option to select ANSI or ISO and I don't want to end up with an ISO top plate.
I remember him saying he changed a few things on the newest version of the HHKB plate. Not sure if you can see it in detail but my forum picture is a HHKB plate from GON. I think it is default ansi.
When are you going to assemble yours? I'm just shocked that I liked the HHKB layout enough to sell my poker and all the stuff associated with it to buy a GON. :))
GON is assembling mine. He should be sending it out by the end of the week. At least that is what he told me. But I sold my poker long ago to fund this. Best decision ever. But yeah HHKB layout all the way (or at least having the CTRL replace the Capslock). Kind of hard to do the HHKB on a 84 key layout.
Haha GON told me he thought that he could ship out my order within a week.. 2 weeks ago :-\
Though I don't blame him, he's got a lot on his plate to take care of. My order is just bare PCBs, parts and an acrylic tkl case though. Can't live without his NerD PCB keymapper.. so I'm putting one in this lz-gh housing.
Post by: ceflame on Wed, 11 February 2015, 00:04:31
I still look at my email every day hoping GON happened to have everything on hand. I know that isn't a possibility but its keeping me occupied.
Oh god, I know that feel as well..
I'm actually a bit surprised that there are still people waiting on their orders from September/October, especially with estimated 2 month lead time. I'm curious how long the lead times were before the DTA TKL groupbuy.
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 11 February 2015, 00:05:54
Well actually I'm coming up on almost 4 months.. Made the order October 18th..I still look at my email every day hoping GON happened to have everything on hand. I know that isn't a possibility but its keeping me occupied.
Oh god, I know that feel as well..
I'm actually a bit surprised that there are still people waiting on their orders from September/October, especially with estimated 2 month lead time. I'm curious how long the lead times were before the DTA TKL groupbuy.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 11 February 2015, 01:01:31
It makes for quite the surprise when i get packages.
Post by: MrMen on Wed, 11 February 2015, 01:43:13
I'm more interested in assembling it by myself. I'll wait for a few time to think more about that.
I don't even know if I want acrylic or al housing. And tkl is not so bad... So hard to choose.
Post by: animated on Wed, 11 February 2015, 10:11:28
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 11 February 2015, 11:13:43
Just curious, but is there 2-4 month wait time if you order the DIY kit also? Thanks!
Not usually. But right now probably yes.
Post by: avtar on Wed, 11 February 2015, 12:28:21
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 11 February 2015, 12:48:07
radio_killah, is the blue keyboard in your profile pic the one you ordered from Gon? If so what colour is that supposed to be?
Looks like a Blue GON HHKB.
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 11 February 2015, 12:51:30
radio_killah, is the blue keyboard in your profile pic the one you ordered from Gon? If so what colour is that supposed to be?
Looks like a Blue GON HHKB.
radio_killah, is the blue keyboard in your profile pic the one you ordered from Gon? If so what colour is that supposed to be?Yup it's the blue anodized non glare version.
Post by: avtar on Wed, 11 February 2015, 13:35:29
Yup it's the blue anodized non glare version.
Thanks, just wanted to confirm that it wasn't the Sky Blue non glare colour, which is what I chose. I was hoping mine would be lighter than that.
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 11 February 2015, 13:36:37
Yup it's the blue anodized non glare version.
Thanks, just wanted to confirm that it wasn't the Sky Blue non glare colour, which is what I chose. I was hoping mine would be lighter than that.
Yours should be more similar looking to mine but a little less shiny :D
Post by: faceyourfaces on Wed, 11 February 2015, 13:54:02
I ordered mine a week after you, on October 25th. At this point I'd be happy if it got here before spring starts.Well actually I'm coming up on almost 4 months.. Made the order October 18th..I still look at my email every day hoping GON happened to have everything on hand. I know that isn't a possibility but its keeping me occupied.
Oh god, I know that feel as well..
I'm actually a bit surprised that there are still people waiting on their orders from September/October, especially with estimated 2 month lead time. I'm curious how long the lead times were before the DTA TKL groupbuy.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 11 February 2015, 13:57:15
I haven't seen your GON, are there pictures?Yup it's the blue anodized non glare version.
Thanks, just wanted to confirm that it wasn't the Sky Blue non glare colour, which is what I chose. I was hoping mine would be lighter than that.
Yours should be more similar looking to mine but a little less shiny :D
Edit: Found them, kind of makes me regret getting non glare black. Anyone have a picture for of full glare black?
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 11 February 2015, 14:10:17
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 11 February 2015, 14:18:40
You ordered recently right? I doubt GON has even sent the plate out for anodization. Contact him through Skype so he can edit your order.I haven't seen your GON, are there pictures?Yup it's the blue anodized non glare version.
Thanks, just wanted to confirm that it wasn't the Sky Blue non glare colour, which is what I chose. I was hoping mine would be lighter than that.
Yours should be more similar looking to mine but a little less shiny :D
Edit: Found them, kind of makes me regret getting non glare black. Anyone have a picture for of full glare black?
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 11 February 2015, 14:22:02
Yeah, my only doubt was whether I wanted glare or non glare. Do you know what Dustin's HHKB was?You ordered recently right? I doubt GON has even sent the plate out for anodization. Contact him through Skype so he can edit your order.I haven't seen your GON, are there pictures?Yup it's the blue anodized non glare version.
Thanks, just wanted to confirm that it wasn't the Sky Blue non glare colour, which is what I chose. I was hoping mine would be lighter than that.
Yours should be more similar looking to mine but a little less shiny :D
Edit: Found them, kind of makes me regret getting non glare black. Anyone have a picture for of full glare black?
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 11 February 2015, 14:31:26
His I think was non glare by the looks of it. It had more of a matte finish in his photos.Yeah, my only doubt was whether I wanted glare or non glare. Do you know what Dustin's HHKB was?You ordered recently right? I doubt GON has even sent the plate out for anodization. Contact him through Skype so he can edit your order.I haven't seen your GON, are there pictures?Yup it's the blue anodized non glare version.
Thanks, just wanted to confirm that it wasn't the Sky Blue non glare colour, which is what I chose. I was hoping mine would be lighter than that.
Yours should be more similar looking to mine but a little less shiny :D
Edit: Found them, kind of makes me regret getting non glare black. Anyone have a picture for of full glare black?
Post by: avtar on Wed, 11 February 2015, 14:47:38
Yours should be more similar looking to mine but a little less shiny :D
Thanks, Sifo :D Looking at yours makes me think I should have opted for the glare version. Oh well.
Post by: missalaire on Thu, 12 February 2015, 00:39:59
Post by: ceflame on Thu, 12 February 2015, 03:48:39
Is shipping always around $25 minimum? Trying to order a pair of aluminum feet and shipping is more expensive than the feet o.o
Yep, winkeyless also charges a pretty high base rate for shipping to US (seeing $38 on their site.. though I remember a post saying it would be around $25-30). Pretty sure it's UPS Korea rate to the US, since that's how GON shipped to me last time.
Post by: Battou62 on Fri, 13 February 2015, 07:57:51
Post by: MrMen on Fri, 13 February 2015, 13:45:24
If it's already released, I think I'll take it and build it myself.
Post by: radio_killah on Fri, 13 February 2015, 16:45:13
I'm still there with my thought about MxMini.The Hoffmann board is an old one if I'm right. I'm looking for the NerD one version.
If it's already released, I think I'll take it and build it myself.
Oh showing you Hoffman's board was just to show you what it would look like. His is the old version without the NerD pcb. But the NerD version should already be produced I think and you can order that directly from GON.
Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 15 February 2015, 05:58:45
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 15 February 2015, 07:42:25
If one wants to have side leds or pcb leds does one have to have an acryllic case? And if yes, isn't acryllic worse than aluminum cases?
Nope you can have aluminum, but the centre piece to the sandwich style case is a translucent polycarb material. And yeah acrylic sucks but you save money.
See my signature for an outdated and poorly executed example.
Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 15 February 2015, 13:34:02
If one wants to have side leds or pcb leds does one have to have an acryllic case? And if yes, isn't acryllic worse than aluminum cases?
Nope you can have aluminum, but the centre piece to the sandwich style case is a translucent polycarb material. And yeah acrylic sucks but you save money.
See my signature for an outdated and poorly executed example.
But if one doesn't get any leds with GON, is the centre piece then aluminum? And if yes is that better for keyboard sturdiness? I don't really care about leds, so if there are any downsides to them then I will not get them. But if there are no downsides then I'll get them since they are little to no extra cost and I'll just turn them off if I don't like the sideleds/pcb leds (not getting switch leds that's for sure).
Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 15 February 2015, 13:52:30
But if one doesn't get any leds with GON, is the centre piece then aluminum? And if yes is that better for keyboard sturdiness? I don't really care about leds, so if there are any downsides to them then I will not get them.GON currently doesn't make boards with aluminum center pieces, but if that's what you want you might want to check Kaliet (22kbd.com). As far as polycarbonate middles go, I haven't seen any downsides to durability at all. The main difference is weight. I also think that an all metal housing might be a little louder than a polycarb hybrid.
Post by: asgeirtj on Sun, 15 February 2015, 16:03:17
But if one doesn't get any leds with GON, is the centre piece then aluminum? And if yes is that better for keyboard sturdiness? I don't really care about leds, so if there are any downsides to them then I will not get them.GON currently doesn't make boards with aluminum center pieces, but if that's what you want you might want to check Kaliet (22kbd.com). As far as polycarbonate middles go, I haven't seen any downsides to durability at all. The main difference is weight. I also think that an all metal housing might be a little louder than a polycarb hybrid.
Alrighty then. I don't think a low weight keyboard is a concern for me, also I use o-rings so loudness is not a problem. Thanks for answers!
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Sun, 15 February 2015, 22:34:15
I don't know much about plastics, may I ask what makes acrylic worse than polycarbonate?If one wants to have side leds or pcb leds does one have to have an acryllic case? And if yes, isn't acryllic worse than aluminum cases?
Nope you can have aluminum, but the centre piece to the sandwich style case is a translucent polycarb material. And yeah acrylic sucks but you save money.
See my signature for an outdated and poorly executed example.
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 15 February 2015, 22:38:52
I don't much about plastics, may I ask what makes acrylic worse than polycarbonate?If one wants to have side leds or pcb leds does one have to have an acryllic case? And if yes, isn't acryllic worse than aluminum cases?
Nope you can have aluminum, but the centre piece to the sandwich style case is a translucent polycarb material. And yeah acrylic sucks but you save money.
See my signature for an outdated and poorly executed example.
Well for me it's preference. I don't like how acrylic feels and I don't enjoy typing on anything made from acrylic. Polycarb has a nice texture to it and doesn't bother me so much, and it's also been more reliable as far as durability goes for me.
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Sun, 15 February 2015, 23:32:17
Do they still have a difference if a metal plate is used?I don't know much about plastics, may I ask what makes acrylic worse than polycarbonate?If one wants to have side leds or pcb leds does one have to have an acryllic case? And if yes, isn't acryllic worse than aluminum cases?
Nope you can have aluminum, but the centre piece to the sandwich style case is a translucent polycarb material. And yeah acrylic sucks but you save money.
See my signature for an outdated and poorly executed example.
Well for me it's preference. I don't like how acrylic feels and I don't enjoy typing on anything made from acrylic. Polycarb has a nice texture to it and doesn't bother me so much, and it's also been more reliable as far as durability goes for me.
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 16 February 2015, 00:29:32
Do they still have a difference if a metal plate is used?I don't know much about plastics, may I ask what makes acrylic worse than polycarbonate?If one wants to have side leds or pcb leds does one have to have an acryllic case? And if yes, isn't acryllic worse than aluminum cases?
Nope you can have aluminum, but the centre piece to the sandwich style case is a translucent polycarb material. And yeah acrylic sucks but you save money.
See my signature for an outdated and poorly executed example.
Well for me it's preference. I don't like how acrylic feels and I don't enjoy typing on anything made from acrylic. Polycarb has a nice texture to it and doesn't bother me so much, and it's also been more reliable as far as durability goes for me.
I've never tried a metal plate + acrylic sandwich. But plate isn't everything that makes the feel of a keyboard, it's everything combined.
Post by: asgeirtj on Mon, 16 February 2015, 10:54:32
I don't much about plastics, may I ask what makes acrylic worse than polycarbonate?If one wants to have side leds or pcb leds does one have to have an acryllic case? And if yes, isn't acryllic worse than aluminum cases?
Nope you can have aluminum, but the centre piece to the sandwich style case is a translucent polycarb material. And yeah acrylic sucks but you save money.
See my signature for an outdated and poorly executed example.
Well for me it's preference. I don't like how acrylic feels and I don't enjoy typing on anything made from acrylic. Polycarb has a nice texture to it and doesn't bother me so much, and it's also been more reliable as far as durability goes for me.
When talking about feel in a keyboard, is this only applicable when you don't use o-rings? I'm thinking that since I use o-rings so I don't even clack so maybe it doesn't matter if I bottom out to a plastic case or an aluminum case?
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 16 February 2015, 17:18:15
I don't much about plastics, may I ask what makes acrylic worse than polycarbonate?If one wants to have side leds or pcb leds does one have to have an acryllic case? And if yes, isn't acryllic worse than aluminum cases?
Nope you can have aluminum, but the centre piece to the sandwich style case is a translucent polycarb material. And yeah acrylic sucks but you save money.
See my signature for an outdated and poorly executed example.
Well for me it's preference. I don't like how acrylic feels and I don't enjoy typing on anything made from acrylic. Polycarb has a nice texture to it and doesn't bother me so much, and it's also been more reliable as far as durability goes for me.
When talking about feel in a keyboard, is this only applicable when you don't use o-rings? I'm thinking that since I use o-rings so I don't even clack so maybe it doesn't matter if I bottom out to a plastic case or an aluminum case?
I don't use o-rings so I can't tell you really. An aluminum case should still feel more "solid" than plastic, even with o-rings, but it's all subjective. If you don't care about the luxury and aesthetics of aluminum housings, then don't bother, I don't think it will make that much of a difference in feel for it to matter.
Post by: Dark_wizzie on Tue, 17 February 2015, 06:43:24
Some of the Gons are really top notch in the looks department. However, I'm looking for a very solidly build keyboard, where literally, literally, if I smacked somebody with my keyboard, the keyboard would be a deadly weapon. I don't think the Gon offerings have enough solid metal to do that. Is it a good idea (and possible) to buy a pre-assemebled Gon pcb with the switches and all mounted and ready to go, and then I just plop the thing into TKL aluminum casing like the one from Tex?
Thanks
Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 17 February 2015, 06:54:31
Sorry if this has been answered before...
Some of the Gons are really top notch in the looks department. However, I'm looking for a very solidly build keyboard, where literally, literally, if I smacked somebody with my keyboard, the keyboard would be a deadly weapon. I don't think the Gon offerings have enough solid metal to do that. Is it a good idea (and possible) to buy a pre-assemebled Gon pcb with the switches and all mounted and ready to go, and then I just plop the thing into TKL aluminum casing like the one from Tex?
Thanks
I'm pretty sure the GON PCB isn't compatible with the TEX TKL cases.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 17 February 2015, 11:57:28
Sorry if this has been answered before...
Some of the Gons are really top notch in the looks department. However, I'm looking for a very solidly build keyboard, where literally, literally, if I smacked somebody with my keyboard, the keyboard would be a deadly weapon. I don't think the Gon offerings have enough solid metal to do that. Is it a good idea (and possible) to buy a pre-assemebled Gon pcb with the switches and all mounted and ready to go, and then I just plop the thing into TKL aluminum casing like the one from Tex?
Thanks
Buy anything from Duck, my lightsaver is really heavy and when it was assembled it was really solid. Also I'm not sure a gon pcb will work with a Tex case.
Post by: Battou62 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 08:10:57
Hey guys. I am not sure if this has been answered or not. Does anyone know if it is possible to reduce the usb polling rate on the nerd pcb? Also is it possible to modify the pcb so that you can use the keyboard to enter the computers bios?
I love how my question was skipped over. I can't even get GON to respond to this question via PM. I am guessing no one knows the answers to this questions?
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:47:30
I am pretty sure it was skipped since no one knew how to answer it. I have no idea sorry :(Hey guys. I am not sure if this has been answered or not. Does anyone know if it is possible to reduce the usb polling rate on the nerd pcb? Also is it possible to modify the pcb so that you can use the keyboard to enter the computers bios?
I love how my question was skipped over. I can't even get GON to respond to this question via PM. I am guessing no one knows the answers to this questions?
Post by: Dark_wizzie on Wed, 18 February 2015, 09:49:26
I do not know the answer either. I heard that Gon is backlogged with tons of work. I also heard that you will reach him faster on Skype instead of Geekhack.Hey guys. I am not sure if this has been answered or not. Does anyone know if it is possible to reduce the usb polling rate on the nerd pcb? Also is it possible to modify the pcb so that you can use the keyboard to enter the computers bios?
I love how my question was skipped over. I can't even get GON to respond to this question via PM. I am guessing no one knows the answers to this questions?
Post by: Battou62 on Wed, 18 February 2015, 10:40:16
I do not know the answer either. I heard that Gon is backlogged with tons of work. I also heard that you will reach him faster on Skype instead of Geekhack.Hey guys. I am not sure if this has been answered or not. Does anyone know if it is possible to reduce the usb polling rate on the nerd pcb? Also is it possible to modify the pcb so that you can use the keyboard to enter the computers bios?
I love how my question was skipped over. I can't even get GON to respond to this question via PM. I am guessing no one knows the answers to this questions?
Oh, okay. Where can I find his skype info?
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 18 February 2015, 11:40:14
I do not know the answer either. I heard that Gon is backlogged with tons of work. I also heard that you will reach him faster on Skype instead of Geekhack.Hey guys. I am not sure if this has been answered or not. Does anyone know if it is possible to reduce the usb polling rate on the nerd pcb? Also is it possible to modify the pcb so that you can use the keyboard to enter the computers bios?
I love how my question was skipped over. I can't even get GON to respond to this question via PM. I am guessing no one knows the answers to this questions?
Oh, okay. Where can I find his skype info?
I think his skype ID is "GONsKeyboardWorks" it is listed on the bottom banner of his wesbite, just send him a message saying you are from geekhack and he should add you.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Wed, 18 February 2015, 15:37:18
I do not know the answer either. I heard that Gon is backlogged with tons of work. I also heard that you will reach him faster on Skype instead of Geekhack.Hey guys. I am not sure if this has been answered or not. Does anyone know if it is possible to reduce the usb polling rate on the nerd pcb? Also is it possible to modify the pcb so that you can use the keyboard to enter the computers bios?
I love how my question was skipped over. I can't even get GON to respond to this question via PM. I am guessing no one knows the answers to this questions?
Oh, okay. Where can I find his skype info?
Skype: GONsKeyboardWorks
Post by: eten on Thu, 19 February 2015, 13:38:56
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 19 February 2015, 16:54:36
Are there any pictures available for Gon's Crystal MX Mini?
Not that I know of.
Post by: hojin.yi on Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:10:49
Is shipping always around $25 minimum? Trying to order a pair of aluminum feet and shipping is more expensive than the feet o.o
Yep, winkeyless also charges a pretty high base rate for shipping to US (seeing $38 on their site.. though I remember a post saying it would be around $25-30). Pretty sure it's UPS Korea rate to the US, since that's how GON shipped to me last time.
Yes, you are right. Though I'm a winkeyless manager, I think it's too expensive to ship products form S.Korean to N.America or so. Basically I ship products through EMS which charges around $38 for 1.25kg item. 1.25kg is the minimum weight for packaging(consider enough aircaps, strong box...). But I charge shipping fee on single system ($38 to N.America/Europe, $26 to in-Asia) and don't add extra shipping cost.
The reason to use EMS is it gives open and universal tracking system.
Anyway I have to find out some other shipping option which is not only fast and safe but also more economic. When I'm ready, I'll post it.
Post by: sethk_ on Fri, 20 February 2015, 22:37:36
The current shipping method is fast as hell though, it took like 1 week to get from SKorea to East Coast of the States.Is shipping always around $25 minimum? Trying to order a pair of aluminum feet and shipping is more expensive than the feet o.o
Yep, winkeyless also charges a pretty high base rate for shipping to US (seeing $38 on their site.. though I remember a post saying it would be around $25-30). Pretty sure it's UPS Korea rate to the US, since that's how GON shipped to me last time.
Yes, you are right. Though I'm a winkeyless manager, I think it's too expensive to ship products form S.Korean to N.America or so. Basically I ship products through EMS which charges around $38 for 1.25kg item. 1.25kg is the minimum weight for packaging(consider enough aircaps, strong box...). But I charge shipping fee on single system ($38 to N.America/Europe, $26 to in-Asia) and don't add extra shipping cost.
The reason to use EMS is it gives open and universal tracking system.
Anyway I have to find out some other shipping option which is not only fast and safe but also more economic. When I'm ready, I'll post it.
Post by: radio_killah on Fri, 20 February 2015, 23:46:14
Yup I got something from GON in 4 days... He sent it Friday and I got it Tuesday. The current method of shipping from Korea is way fast but way expensiveThe current shipping method is fast as hell though, it took like 1 week to get from SKorea to East Coast of the States.Is shipping always around $25 minimum? Trying to order a pair of aluminum feet and shipping is more expensive than the feet o.o
Yep, winkeyless also charges a pretty high base rate for shipping to US (seeing $38 on their site.. though I remember a post saying it would be around $25-30). Pretty sure it's UPS Korea rate to the US, since that's how GON shipped to me last time.
Yes, you are right. Though I'm a winkeyless manager, I think it's too expensive to ship products form S.Korean to N.America or so. Basically I ship products through EMS which charges around $38 for 1.25kg item. 1.25kg is the minimum weight for packaging(consider enough aircaps, strong box...). But I charge shipping fee on single system ($38 to N.America/Europe, $26 to in-Asia) and don't add extra shipping cost.
The reason to use EMS is it gives open and universal tracking system.
Anyway I have to find out some other shipping option which is not only fast and safe but also more economic. When I'm ready, I'll post it.
Post by: ceflame on Sat, 21 February 2015, 00:02:45
On another note, has anyone heard from GON recently? I haven't been able to contact him since January 28.
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 21 February 2015, 01:00:39
Yep it's definitely fast, had something shipped on a friday and arrived on monday.
On another note, has anyone heard from GON recently? I haven't been able to contact him since January 28.
He sent me something over skype just the other day. He is just too busy to reply to anything these days.
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 21 February 2015, 01:03:16
Could you imagine if he agreed to do those builds on MD like people kept voting for?Yep it's definitely fast, had something shipped on a friday and arrived on monday.
On another note, has anyone heard from GON recently? I haven't been able to contact him since January 28.
He sent me something over skype just the other day. He is just too busy to reply to anything these days.
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 21 February 2015, 02:23:49
I think his current work load has turned him off to that. He said the only thing he might be willing to do is a gb for parts. But even then it's a ton of work.Could you imagine if he agreed to do those builds on MD like people kept voting for?Yep it's definitely fast, had something shipped on a friday and arrived on monday.
On another note, has anyone heard from GON recently? I haven't been able to contact him since January 28.
He sent me something over skype just the other day. He is just too busy to reply to anything these days.
Post by: sethk_ on Sat, 21 February 2015, 02:25:57
Yeah, and especially sourcing stabs and what not.I think his current work load has turned him off to that. He said the only thing he might be willing to do is a gb for parts. But even then it's a ton of work.Could you imagine if he agreed to do those builds on MD like people kept voting for?Yep it's definitely fast, had something shipped on a friday and arrived on monday.
On another note, has anyone heard from GON recently? I haven't been able to contact him since January 28.
He sent me something over skype just the other day. He is just too busy to reply to anything these days.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Sat, 21 February 2015, 08:45:05
I think his current work load has turned him off to that. He said the only thing he might be willing to do is a gb for parts. But even then it's a ton of work.Could you imagine if he agreed to do those builds on MD like people kept voting for?Yep it's definitely fast, had something shipped on a friday and arrived on monday.
On another note, has anyone heard from GON recently? I haven't been able to contact him since January 28.
He sent me something over skype just the other day. He is just too busy to reply to anything these days.
I imagine the DTA award GB has a lot to do with how busy is is atm too.....
Post by: Lpwl on Sat, 21 February 2015, 09:02:20
GON will deliver, no worries !
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Sat, 21 February 2015, 23:35:21
For example, for the two space bar positions, do all the pads for switches, diodes, LEDs, etc act as their own unit? or are they somehow linked to all corresponding parts for the alternate position making them act like the same switch or only leaves one set active?
and likewise for the other more jumbled mounts?
Post by: DanielT on Tue, 24 February 2015, 02:08:49
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Tue, 24 February 2015, 20:30:02
For Space the two switches pads are linked, the same goes for the bottom row modifiers, they are linked. Those are only alternate positions for the same switch.In that case, does that mean the extra LED pads could still be used? Or is there not enough power to go around.
Post by: Findecanor on Thu, 26 February 2015, 17:01:53
I have my own firmware for the ATmega32U4 in mind, and I am interested in trying out some backlighting tricks.
Thanks in advance.
Post by: Hiroyuki on Fri, 27 February 2015, 15:50:01
Do you think it would be possible to load a custom firmware onto the NerD60?
I have my own firmware for the ATmega32U4 in mind, and I am interested in trying out some backlighting tricks.
Thanks in advance.
I haven't received my NerD yet, so I cannot confirm - but I would assume it would be possible as I expect the GoN firmware to be loaded through the USB interface. I have an AVR-debugger here somewhere, could test and see if I can get a connection somehow when I get my PCB...
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Fri, 27 February 2015, 16:55:31
Did you only order a PCB?Do you think it would be possible to load a custom firmware onto the NerD60?
I have my own firmware for the ATmega32U4 in mind, and I am interested in trying out some backlighting tricks.
Thanks in advance.
I haven't received my NerD yet, so I cannot confirm - but I would assume it would be possible as I expect the GoN firmware to be loaded through the USB interface. I have an AVR-debugger here somewhere, could test and see if I can get a connection somehow when I get my PCB...
I'm planning on doing that, but since Gon is swamped, I don't want to place an order and wait forever. I've been holding out waiting to see how fast he ships only PCB orders before I make the jump.
Post by: Mastodon on Fri, 27 February 2015, 18:30:13
Did you only order a PCB?Do you think it would be possible to load a custom firmware onto the NerD60?
I have my own firmware for the ATmega32U4 in mind, and I am interested in trying out some backlighting tricks.
Thanks in advance.
I haven't received my NerD yet, so I cannot confirm - but I would assume it would be possible as I expect the GoN firmware to be loaded through the USB interface. I have an AVR-debugger here somewhere, could test and see if I can get a connection somehow when I get my PCB...
I'm planning on doing that, but since Gon is swamped, I don't want to place an order and wait forever. I've been holding out waiting to see how fast he ships only PCB orders before I make the jump.
I have an order for a case, PCB and electronic components that's been placed since the 14th of November. I think all orders are currently delayed. My keycaps are going to get here before the components :(
Post by: radio_killah on Fri, 27 February 2015, 18:55:37
My order from October 17th has still yet to ship. 5 months and counting. I might go to PayPal soon since you only have 180 days to file a claim.Did you only order a PCB?Do you think it would be possible to load a custom firmware onto the NerD60?
I have my own firmware for the ATmega32U4 in mind, and I am interested in trying out some backlighting tricks.
Thanks in advance.
I haven't received my NerD yet, so I cannot confirm - but I would assume it would be possible as I expect the GoN firmware to be loaded through the USB interface. I have an AVR-debugger here somewhere, could test and see if I can get a connection somehow when I get my PCB...
I'm planning on doing that, but since Gon is swamped, I don't want to place an order and wait forever. I've been holding out waiting to see how fast he ships only PCB orders before I make the jump.
I have an order for a case, PCB and electronic components that's been placed since the 14th of November. I think all orders are currently delayed. My keycaps are going to get here before the components :(
Post by: Mastodon on Fri, 27 February 2015, 19:00:47
My order from October 17th has still yet to ship. 5 months and counting. I might go to PayPal soon since you only have 180 days to file a claim.Did you only order a PCB?Do you think it would be possible to load a custom firmware onto the NerD60?
I have my own firmware for the ATmega32U4 in mind, and I am interested in trying out some backlighting tricks.
Thanks in advance.
I haven't received my NerD yet, so I cannot confirm - but I would assume it would be possible as I expect the GoN firmware to be loaded through the USB interface. I have an AVR-debugger here somewhere, could test and see if I can get a connection somehow when I get my PCB...
I'm planning on doing that, but since Gon is swamped, I don't want to place an order and wait forever. I've been holding out waiting to see how fast he ships only PCB orders before I make the jump.
I have an order for a case, PCB and electronic components that's been placed since the 14th of November. I think all orders are currently delayed. My keycaps are going to get here before the components :(
That's really weird I ordered a PCB, case and components on October 18th and they shipped on the 12th of November. I've been trying to contact Gon on Skype for the past two days to ask what's up but haven't had any luck so far.
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Fri, 27 February 2015, 20:18:48
This doesn't sound good. =(My order from October 17th has still yet to ship. 5 months and counting. I might go to PayPal soon since you only have 180 days to file a claim.Did you only order a PCB?Do you think it would be possible to load a custom firmware onto the NerD60?
I have my own firmware for the ATmega32U4 in mind, and I am interested in trying out some backlighting tricks.
Thanks in advance.
I haven't received my NerD yet, so I cannot confirm - but I would assume it would be possible as I expect the GoN firmware to be loaded through the USB interface. I have an AVR-debugger here somewhere, could test and see if I can get a connection somehow when I get my PCB...
I'm planning on doing that, but since Gon is swamped, I don't want to place an order and wait forever. I've been holding out waiting to see how fast he ships only PCB orders before I make the jump.
I have an order for a case, PCB and electronic components that's been placed since the 14th of November. I think all orders are currently delayed. My keycaps are going to get here before the components :(
That's really weird I ordered a PCB, case and components on October 18th and they shipped on the 12th of November. I've been trying to contact Gon on Skype for the past two days to ask what's up but haven't had any luck so far.
I just want a 108 pcb with LED support and don't see another easy way of doing it.
Post by: DanielT on Sat, 28 February 2015, 04:54:36
Yes, it's possible to load a cust firmware, I know for sure that TMK works, one user here wrote the code for NerD60 and TKL, I think it's xauser .Do you think it would be possible to load a custom firmware onto the NerD60?
I have my own firmware for the ATmega32U4 in mind, and I am interested in trying out some backlighting tricks.
Thanks in advance.
I haven't received my NerD yet, so I cannot confirm - but I would assume it would be possible as I expect the GoN firmware to be loaded through the USB interface. I have an AVR-debugger here somewhere, could test and see if I can get a connection somehow when I get my PCB...
Post by: Hiroyuki on Sat, 28 February 2015, 06:14:22
Did you only order a PCB?Do you think it would be possible to load a custom firmware onto the NerD60?
I have my own firmware for the ATmega32U4 in mind, and I am interested in trying out some backlighting tricks.
Thanks in advance.
I haven't received my NerD yet, so I cannot confirm - but I would assume it would be possible as I expect the GoN firmware to be loaded through the USB interface. I have an AVR-debugger here somewhere, could test and see if I can get a connection somehow when I get my PCB...
I'm planning on doing that, but since Gon is swamped, I don't want to place an order and wait forever. I've been holding out waiting to see how fast he ships only PCB orders before I make the jump.
Originally I ordered only a PCB & switches (as I was planning to cut my own case), but I changed my mind and sent some message indicating that I wanted to order more stuff, however I haven't gotten a reply to that yet unfortunately. I kinda jumped the gun not knowing that Gon was up to his head in work...
Really don't like that "paid a lot of money, and no response" kinda feeling - if it weren't for Gon being talked so warmly off here on the forums I'd be really scared.
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Sat, 28 February 2015, 06:19:36
Well, I haven't even ordered and I'm already scared, especially at the thought of having to find another way of doing my 108 boardDid you only order a PCB?Do you think it would be possible to load a custom firmware onto the NerD60?
I have my own firmware for the ATmega32U4 in mind, and I am interested in trying out some backlighting tricks.
Thanks in advance.
I haven't received my NerD yet, so I cannot confirm - but I would assume it would be possible as I expect the GoN firmware to be loaded through the USB interface. I have an AVR-debugger here somewhere, could test and see if I can get a connection somehow when I get my PCB...
I'm planning on doing that, but since Gon is swamped, I don't want to place an order and wait forever. I've been holding out waiting to see how fast he ships only PCB orders before I make the jump.
Originally I ordered only a PCB & switches (as I was planning to cut my own case), but I changed my mind and sent some message indicating that I wanted to order more stuff, however I haven't gotten a reply to that yet unfortunately. I kinda jumped the gun not knowing that Gon was up to his head in work...
Really don't like that "paid a lot of money, and no response" kinda feeling - if it weren't for Gon being talked so warmly off here on the forums I'd be really scared.
Post by: Vibex on Sat, 28 February 2015, 10:37:48
Try messaging him on Skype. He always responded to me the fastest their. And yeah he's trustworthy, I wouldn't frett about not getting your order.Did you only order a PCB?Do you think it would be possible to load a custom firmware onto the NerD60?
I have my own firmware for the ATmega32U4 in mind, and I am interested in trying out some backlighting tricks.
Thanks in advance.
I haven't received my NerD yet, so I cannot confirm - but I would assume it would be possible as I expect the GoN firmware to be loaded through the USB interface. I have an AVR-debugger here somewhere, could test and see if I can get a connection somehow when I get my PCB...
I'm planning on doing that, but since Gon is swamped, I don't want to place an order and wait forever. I've been holding out waiting to see how fast he ships only PCB orders before I make the jump.
Originally I ordered only a PCB & switches (as I was planning to cut my own case), but I changed my mind and sent some message indicating that I wanted to order more stuff, however I haven't gotten a reply to that yet unfortunately. I kinda jumped the gun not knowing that Gon was up to his head in work...
Really don't like that "paid a lot of money, and no response" kinda feeling - if it weren't for Gon being talked so warmly off here on the forums I'd be really scared.
Post by: Hiroyuki on Sat, 28 February 2015, 10:51:42
Try messaging him on Skype. He always responded to me the fastest their. And yeah he's trustworthy, I wouldn't frett about not getting your order.
Thanks for reassuring me, I'll try to contact him through skype one of these days :-) Always good to hear from someone with experience
Post by: yobinad on Sat, 28 February 2015, 17:25:23
Placed my order on december 20th. pcb+anodized case+switches
Post by: Mastodon on Sat, 28 February 2015, 18:25:07
Try messaging him on Skype. He always responded to me the fastest their. And yeah he's trustworthy, I wouldn't frett about not getting your order.Did you only order a PCB?Do you think it would be possible to load a custom firmware onto the NerD60?
I have my own firmware for the ATmega32U4 in mind, and I am interested in trying out some backlighting tricks.
Thanks in advance.
I haven't received my NerD yet, so I cannot confirm - but I would assume it would be possible as I expect the GoN firmware to be loaded through the USB interface. I have an AVR-debugger here somewhere, could test and see if I can get a connection somehow when I get my PCB...
I'm planning on doing that, but since Gon is swamped, I don't want to place an order and wait forever. I've been holding out waiting to see how fast he ships only PCB orders before I make the jump.
Originally I ordered only a PCB & switches (as I was planning to cut my own case), but I changed my mind and sent some message indicating that I wanted to order more stuff, however I haven't gotten a reply to that yet unfortunately. I kinda jumped the gun not knowing that Gon was up to his head in work...
Really don't like that "paid a lot of money, and no response" kinda feeling - if it weren't for Gon being talked so warmly off here on the forums I'd be really scared.
By no means was I saying he is untrustworthy. My first order with him was fantastic and he was very responsive with my needs as I, admittedly, had forgot some things from my order. As of late however it's kind of unnerving with the amount of silence. In radio_killahs situation he's been waiting nearly half a year for a board. I'm just hoping for some more communication to ease my nerves I suppose.
Post by: radio_killah on Sat, 28 February 2015, 20:47:21
Post by: yobinad on Sun, 01 March 2015, 05:51:39
Post by: Naweo on Sun, 01 March 2015, 09:27:20
Post by: faceyourfaces on Sun, 01 March 2015, 09:29:23
I'm pretty sure he has blocked me on skype from trying to get a hold oh him lol. I really don't mean to bother him but the fact that I have about $500 on the line and the 180 day paypal timeline for filing a claim is coming up, makes me very worried.
Are you serious about thinking he blocked you or are you just joking? Because it's been 127 days since I've ordered but I paid as a gift so it appears I would be screwed regardless.
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 01 March 2015, 11:06:37
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 01 March 2015, 12:00:50
Post by: Hiroyuki on Sun, 01 March 2015, 12:11:22
Post by: faceyourfaces on Sun, 01 March 2015, 13:25:13
No for my order I talked to him and paid the extra fees so that I could get PayPal protection. So my invoice was not a gift. But I dunno I have messaged him several times each day for the last week and have received nothing in return. Doesn't it cost a lot to call an international number though?
Actually, I remember getting hit with quite a big fee from PayPal as well, but I placed the order so long ago that it's not even showing up in my history.
Post by: mattycee on Sun, 01 March 2015, 16:22:07
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 01 March 2015, 16:29:40
Really if you guys really need to get ahold of him just make one of those messages on the order details. He responded to my questions there. He also told me he's extremely busy too.
The thing is, is that he is spotty right now. He will occasionally respond to some people while ignoring others to get stuff done. There are times where he responded quickly and others where he has just not responded for weeks.
Post by: mattycee on Sun, 01 March 2015, 20:17:23
Really if you guys really need to get ahold of him just make one of those messages on the order details. He responded to my questions there. He also told me he's extremely busy too.
The thing is, is that he is spotty right now. He will occasionally respond to some people while ignoring others to get stuff done. There are times where he responded quickly and others where he has just not responded for weeks.
well i see you asked the same question on another forum. They recommended you to just call him? Have you tried that yet?
Post by: radio_killah on Sun, 01 March 2015, 20:22:08
Really if you guys really need to get ahold of him just make one of those messages on the order details. He responded to my questions there. He also told me he's extremely busy too.
The thing is, is that he is spotty right now. He will occasionally respond to some people while ignoring others to get stuff done. There are times where he responded quickly and others where he has just not responded for weeks.
well i see you asked the same question on another forum. They recommended you to just call him? Have you tried that yet?
I don't have skype credits and I would rather not call international. I mean I trust the guy since I already received a previous order but I am not sure what the hold up is on my other order, he told me twice already that he would send it out but never did.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Sun, 01 March 2015, 20:57:31
Really if you guys really need to get ahold of him just make one of those messages on the order details. He responded to my questions there. He also told me he's extremely busy too.
The thing is, is that he is spotty right now. He will occasionally respond to some people while ignoring others to get stuff done. There are times where he responded quickly and others where he has just not responded for weeks.
well i see you asked the same question on another forum. They recommended you to just call him? Have you tried that yet?
I don't have skype credits and I would rather not call international. I mean I trust the guy since I already received a previous order but I am not sure what the hold up is on my other order, he told me twice already that he would send it out but never did.
Also, the keyboard was expensive enough. I'd rather not throw out more money just to get in contact with him.
Post by: mattycee on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:03:25
Really if you guys really need to get ahold of him just make one of those messages on the order details. He responded to my questions there. He also told me he's extremely busy too.
The thing is, is that he is spotty right now. He will occasionally respond to some people while ignoring others to get stuff done. There are times where he responded quickly and others where he has just not responded for weeks.
well i see you asked the same question on another forum. They recommended you to just call him? Have you tried that yet?
I don't have skype credits and I would rather not call international. I mean I trust the guy since I already received a previous order but I am not sure what the hold up is on my other order, he told me twice already that he would send it out but never did.
Also, the keyboard was expensive enough. I'd rather not throw out more money just to get in contact with him.
I understand that it sucks that he's not really responding. But really a few dollars (less than $10) you can contact him probably a few times before your item is shipped. If that is truly out of your range of spending then i really do not recommend you to buy anymore keyboard around the $500 range.
Post by: radio_killah on Mon, 02 March 2015, 15:31:19
Post by: mattycee on Mon, 02 March 2015, 16:15:59
I can totally spend more money on getting skype credits or whatever but why do it when I know I can contact him for free via a method I know works. The issue is still him not responding which is very possible if I do choose to spend money on skype credits to actually call him.
It may be possible but you have not tried it. Really you are just going full circles with your desire to find a solution that will get him to reply to you. If you do not want to try your only and final option of contacting him then you probably should not complain. Consider this... Email, Chats or other messaging platform will probably be stacked with a lot of questions. A phone call on the other hand is different. Have a nice day.
Post by: radio_killah on Mon, 02 March 2015, 16:18:17
I can totally spend more money on getting skype credits or whatever but why do it when I know I can contact him for free via a method I know works. The issue is still him not responding which is very possible if I do choose to spend money on skype credits to actually call him.
It may be possible but you have not tried it. Really you are just going full circles with your desire to find a solution that will get him to reply to you. If you do not want to try your only and final option of contacting him then you probably should not complain. Consider this... Email, Chats or other messaging platform will probably be stacked with a lot of questions. A phone call on the other hand is different. Have a nice day.
Valid point.
Post by: yobinad on Tue, 03 March 2015, 04:03:57
He is a gentle guy :)
Post by: Lpwl on Tue, 03 March 2015, 04:46:04
Spoke with GON on telephone. The delays are related with aluminium housing.
He is a gentle guy :)
I guess that's why GON didn't yet send me my PP invoice regarding the NS NerD TKL housing (w/ NerD logo engraving) that I ordered last Thursday ;D
Post by: yobinad on Tue, 03 March 2015, 05:02:50
That' what i understood from our conversation
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 03 March 2015, 09:48:55
Post by: xybre on Tue, 03 March 2015, 10:53:28
I can totally spend more money on getting skype credits or whatever but why do it when I know I can contact him for free via a method I know works. The issue is still him not responding which is very possible if I do choose to spend money on skype credits to actually call him.
It may be possible but you have not tried it. Really you are just going full circles with your desire to find a solution that will get him to reply to you. If you do not want to try your only and final option of contacting him then you probably should not complain. Consider this... Email, Chats or other messaging platform will probably be stacked with a lot of questions. A phone call on the other hand is different. Have a nice day.
Valid point.
This is pretty much where I'm at, but SK is 15 hours ahead so our overlap is minimal. It's just been close to 6 months since my order and if I'm not going to get it (and I haven't heard from him in almost 3 of those), I need to contact Paypal to dispute it before the time is up. I just want it dealt with. There's really only a handful of places to get a fully reprogrammable keyboard and its frustrating that they're all flakey in various ways.
Post by: radio_killah on Tue, 03 March 2015, 12:03:25
I can totally spend more money on getting skype credits or whatever but why do it when I know I can contact him for free via a method I know works. The issue is still him not responding which is very possible if I do choose to spend money on skype credits to actually call him.
It may be possible but you have not tried it. Really you are just going full circles with your desire to find a solution that will get him to reply to you. If you do not want to try your only and final option of contacting him then you probably should not complain. Consider this... Email, Chats or other messaging platform will probably be stacked with a lot of questions. A phone call on the other hand is different. Have a nice day.
Valid point.
This is pretty much where I'm at, but SK is 15 hours ahead so our overlap is minimal. It's just been close to 6 months since my order and if I'm not going to get it (and I haven't heard from him in almost 3 of those), I need to contact Paypal to dispute it before the time is up. I just want it dealt with. There's really only a handful of places to get a fully reprogrammable keyboard and its frustrating that they're all flakey in various ways.
I actually called him last night via skype around 9pm PST, which was early afternoon for him. If youre profile is correct and you are in IL with central time you should be able to find an overlap.
But honestly in my opinion he is just too swamped and needs to stop taking order until he catches up. He has too much on his plate and its causing everyone headaches since everyone is worrying from his lack of response.
The thing is, he is providing a service and we are all paying for it, if he isn't giving us that service in a satisfactory manner we as his customers should let him know so that he can improve his business with our feedback. I know GON is a great guy and will eventually deliver on his orders but he has a lot of our money and if his service isn't satisfactory then people should let him know and put some pressure on him to make some changes.
For instance in my case he told me my keyboard would ship but when it didn't he didn't bother contacting me for over a week. When I finally got in contact with him last night he said that he messed up while soldering the LED's on my board and had to redo some of it. I was upset but honestly I would have understood the delay had he informed me, but he didn't which is a problem.
As for future orders, I am contacting GON first to make sure his work load is light before I order because a wait this long is just unacceptable when his site advertises 2 months plus shipping.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Tue, 03 March 2015, 17:05:21
Spoke with GON on telephone. The delays are related with aluminium housing.
He is a gentle guy :)
I ordered a keyboard with the crystal housing and he told me that he had all the parts in the earlier part of January so I don't know how relevant this is to my delay.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 03 March 2015, 20:41:30
Spoke with GON on telephone. The delays are related with aluminium housing.
He is a gentle guy :)
I ordered a keyboard with the crystal housing and he told me that he had all the parts in the earlier part of January so I don't know how relevant this is to my delay.
GON doesn't have any aluminum housings so i'm assuming he meant the plates getting cut which would affect your order since the crystal housing has metal plates on the top and bottom
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 03 March 2015, 21:04:59
Spoke with GON on telephone. The delays are related with aluminium housing.
He is a gentle guy :)
I ordered a keyboard with the crystal housing and he told me that he had all the parts in the earlier part of January so I don't know how relevant this is to my delay.
GON doesn't have any aluminum housings so i'm assuming he meant the plates getting cut which would affect your order since the crystal housing has metal plates on the top and bottom
No the crystal is full polycarb. He's probably just super busy trying to keep track of everything. idk.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 03 March 2015, 21:08:49
No the crystal is full polycarb. He's probably just super busy trying to keep track of everything. idk.
oh right, i was thinking about the NS, not the NS crystal. thanks.
Post by: yobinad on Wed, 04 March 2015, 02:01:49
Post by: faceyourfaces on Thu, 05 March 2015, 05:23:02
I meant he had delays with cnc machining provider. Polycarbonate included i guess
I called him on Skype and he told me the same thing; 2-4 weeks left for my keyboard. He estimated that he has between 30 and 40 orders to get done.
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 05 March 2015, 05:50:28
I meant he had delays with cnc machining provider. Polycarbonate included i guess
I called him on Skype and he told me the same thing; 2-4 weeks left for my keyboard. He estimated that he has between 30 and 40 orders to get done.
THIS is why the poor guy is under the weight of all your orders. Wait for him to finish them before bothering him with your questions and disturbances.
No one likes to be bothered with insipid questions about nothing when he has to get through with idiot manufacturers about finishing the housings and whatnot. This is what manufacturing is about, working to order when dealing with other producers and their time schedules.
PLUS also dealing with Quality and Control when he receives sometimes dodgey finished product that needs to be re-done again. GON goes through all this so that you, the customer, gets the VERY BEST quality keyboard for your money. I would rather have GON running this whole show then any other person :thumb: .
If you want perfection, then it costs time hence everyone relax, take a chill pill and flick through some Hustler or Mayfair and enjoy the feeling of your new coming keyboard 8) .
Post by: DanielT on Thu, 05 March 2015, 06:50:57
GON is a one man show, if any of you ever built a keyboard, SMD soldering switch tunning and on top of that quality control to make sure the product is beyond perfect than you know what kind of time consuming task is that. And put that on top of a real life and a job and do the math.
And when you invest top $$$ don't be cheap on a phone call, skype is even free.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Thu, 05 March 2015, 07:31:59
I don't think I'm being that unreasonable nor would I say that I'm an impatient person just for wanting to get an update on all of this. I didn't even try to get in contact with him until it was 2 weeks after the estimated lead time of 2 months. It's been over 4 months now. I ordered a Crystal TKL, which has a polycarbonate body, so I knew very well that I was paying mostly for GON's workmanship and quality of service rather than the keyboard's materials itself. I acknowledge why the delay happened and I do feel sorry for GON but you can't expect me not to be at least a little disappointed.
$623.44 is a lot of money for me. Unfortunately, no matter how many other orders he has to get to, I can't just get this off my mind.
I'm sorry.
Post by: DanielT on Thu, 05 March 2015, 08:19:11
In many ways GON is a pioneer, he is the first Korean keyboard builder, as far as I know, who opened to the "western" keyboard community. There were times when getting a Korean board was close to impossible, not to mention a custom build. You had to have connections and pay top dollar to get one, and the waiting time was huge.
I think this time GON was a little overconfident in his ability to take so many orders, but he will deliver, and when you will get your board you will see why it was worth waiting.
If you want to "buy" some peace of mind, bite the bullet and phone him, or try to call him via skype, he is a really nice guy :thumb:
If you want to get a glimpse at the amount of work involved in a custom build watch his videos, his hand soldering skills are perfect, I've seen boards machine soldered that are far away from his boards.
One thing I learned in this hobby is that you need a lot of patience if you want something special, caps, boards, cases... It's an expensive hobby and requires a lot of patience. If you accept these things you have only nice surprises :thumb:
For instant delivery you get only standard, non programmable (truly programmable) boards and cheap caps.. I could never go back to that :eek:
Post by: mattycee on Thu, 05 March 2015, 11:27:49
I understand your concerns, it's normal, we are talking about a lot of money. I had 2 orders with GON and both were delivered, and those boards are the best boards I ever had and I will never sell them.
In many ways GON is a pioneer, he is the first Korean keyboard builder, as far as I know, who opened to the "western" keyboard community. There were times when getting a Korean board was close to impossible, not to mention a custom build. You had to have connections and pay top dollar to get one, and the waiting time was huge.
I think this time GON was a little overconfident in his ability to take so many orders, but he will deliver, and when you will get your board you will see why it was worth waiting.
If you want to "buy" some peace of mind, bite the bullet and phone him, or try to call him via skype, he is a really nice guy :thumb:
If you want to get a glimpse at the amount of work involved in a custom build watch his videos, his hand soldering skills are perfect, I've seen boards machine soldered that are far away from his boards.
One thing I learned in this hobby is that you need a lot of patience if you want something special, caps, boards, cases... It's an expensive hobby and requires a lot of patience. If you accept these things you have only nice surprises :thumb:
For instant delivery you get only standard, non programmable (truly programmable) boards and cheap caps.. I could never go back to that :eek:
Well written! :thumb:
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 05 March 2015, 11:55:26
He has thousands of our hard earned dollars and we just get told to wait. No that is not cool. He is providing a service and that service should include updates. We are paying a stranger in Korea, from a site most of us have been on for less than a year, a lot of money so it is completely normal to be worried with you have no idea what has been going on for 4+ months while waiting for your order which was advertised to be done in 2 months.
The community gives too much leniency to stuff like this and honestly we should all be giving GON our criticism and feedback so that he can improve his business. In my opinion people, doing GB's and assembly work should be more like bunny and billnye who were great at giving feedback every couple of days even when nothing was happening. They were not perfect but they are at least a great example. It is so annoying that just because we like GON and think is stuff is great that we just give him a pass to be late on delivering tons of product to his customers.
As I understand it he has had lots of issues in the past with his CNC manufacturer and that has held up a lot of orders. That is totally understandable. However he should let us know of that issue. We shouldn't say sorry for bothering GON, we shouldn't say sorry for wondering where our orders are, we shouldn't have to say sorry for trying to get customer service from him. I am a huge fan of GON and even though he has disappointed me with his lack of updates and false shipping dates, I will still support him.
Sorry about the rant. The thing is we shouldn't feel sorry for getting upset, and this doesn't just apply to GON. This applies to all the people offering services and products on GH. This isn't our fault, we give them our money in exchange for goods and a service. We fulfilled our end of the transaction by giving them money so it is only fair to wonder where our product is when it is late and overdue.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Thu, 05 March 2015, 12:31:25
Honestly I am starting to get sick that of the "oh he is totally good for it, don't get your panties in a bunch, just keep waiting" attitude. Not to take a slight at anyone but this sentiment is so pervasive and annoying... GON is providing us a service, and we pay high prices for it. I get that it is custom stuff and takes a while. However he is running behind almost 4 months on orders and that is unacceptable. Yes I know GON will eventually deliver on all his orders but this attitude of just letting him get the benefit of the doubt is just wrong.
He has thousands of our hard earned dollars and we just get told to wait. No that is not cool. He is providing a service and that service should include updates. We are paying a stranger in Korea, from a site most of us have been on for less than a year, a lot of money so it is completely normal to be worried with you have no idea what has been going on for 4+ months while waiting for your order which was advertised to be done in 2 months.
The community gives too much leniency to stuff like this and honestly we should all be giving GON our criticism and feedback so that he can improve his business. In my opinion people, doing GB's and assembly work should be more like bunny and billnye who were great at giving feedback every couple of days even when nothing was happening. They were not perfect but they are at least a great example. It is so annoying that just because we like GON and think is stuff is great that we just give him a pass to be late on delivering tons of product to his customers.
As I understand it he has had lots of issues in the past with his CNC manufacturer and that has held up a lot of orders. That is totally understandable. However he should let us know of that issue. We shouldn't say sorry for bothering GON, we shouldn't say sorry for wondering where our orders are, we shouldn't have to say sorry for trying to get customer service from him. I am a huge fan of GON and even though he has disappointed me with his lack of updates and false shipping dates, I will still support him.
Sorry about the rant. The thing is we shouldn't feel sorry for getting upset, and this doesn't just apply to GON. This applies to all the people offering services and products on GH. This isn't our fault, we give them our money in exchange for goods and a service. We fulfilled our end of the transaction by giving them money so it is only fair to wonder where our product is when it is late and overdue.
I appreciate you taking the time to write this out. You pretty much put my thoughts into words. GON seems like a nice guy, but if he is not meeting the expectations of his very expensive service, there's no reason to act like everything is okay.
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 05 March 2015, 18:55:30
Sorry about the rant. The thing is we shouldn't feel sorry for getting upset, and this doesn't just apply to GON. This applies to all the people offering services and products on GH. This isn't our fault, we give them our money in exchange for goods and a service. We fulfilled our end of the transaction by giving them money so it is only fair to wonder where our product is when it is late and overdue.
By all respects you didn't fulfill your end of the contract at all. Why you might ask BECAUSE building something from scratch takes TIME.
Sitting on your arse and getting all nasty won't make the item come any faster to your front door. In the world of cars spending $340,000USD on a Bentley Brooklands Coupe means you HAVE TO WAIT at least 18 months for delivery. Now according to you they should have the car ready for you to drive away but not when YOU insist on having it customized to your own specific needs.
Everything takes time, if you do not want to wait then set up your tent in the classifieds and harass someone else to sell it to you. Don't waste time in Group Buys or pretend you know what it's like since you just keep b1tching about yourself not getting what you want.
Harden up and shut the FVCK up for once >:D .
Post by: radio_killah on Thu, 05 March 2015, 19:48:43
Sorry about the rant. The thing is we shouldn't feel sorry for getting upset, and this doesn't just apply to GON. This applies to all the people offering services and products on GH. This isn't our fault, we give them our money in exchange for goods and a service. We fulfilled our end of the transaction by giving them money so it is only fair to wonder where our product is when it is late and overdue.
By all respects you didn't fulfill your end of the contract at all. Why you might ask BECAUSE building something from scratch takes TIME.
Sitting on your arse and getting all nasty won't make the item come any faster to your front door. In the world of cars spending $340,000USD on a Bentley Brooklands Coupe means you HAVE TO WAIT at least 18 months for delivery. Now according to you they should have the car ready for you to drive away but not when YOU insist on having it customized to your own specific needs.
Everything takes time, if you do not want to wait then set up your tent in the classifieds and harass someone else to sell it to you. Don't waste time in Group Buys or pretend you know what it's like since you just keep b1tching about yourself not getting what you want.
Harden up and shut the FVCK up for once >:D .
How have I not fulfilled it? I have wait more than twice the advertised lead time. I am at 5 months and counting.
Post by: mattycee on Thu, 05 March 2015, 22:44:58
Sorry about the rant. The thing is we shouldn't feel sorry for getting upset, and this doesn't just apply to GON. This applies to all the people offering services and products on GH. This isn't our fault, we give them our money in exchange for goods and a service. We fulfilled our end of the transaction by giving them money so it is only fair to wonder where our product is when it is late and overdue.
By all respects you didn't fulfill your end of the contract at all. Why you might ask BECAUSE building something from scratch takes TIME.
Sitting on your arse and getting all nasty won't make the item come any faster to your front door. In the world of cars spending $340,000USD on a Bentley Brooklands Coupe means you HAVE TO WAIT at least 18 months for delivery. Now according to you they should have the car ready for you to drive away but not when YOU insist on having it customized to your own specific needs.
Everything takes time, if you do not want to wait then set up your tent in the classifieds and harass someone else to sell it to you. Don't waste time in Group Buys or pretend you know what it's like since you just keep b1tching about yourself not getting what you want.
Harden up and shut the FVCK up for once >:D .
How have I not fulfilled it? I have wait more than twice the advertised lead time. I am at 5 months and counting.
to be honest it said estimate. There was never a hard date set by gon.
Post by: cphead on Fri, 06 March 2015, 23:29:21
Post by: Azumia on Sat, 07 March 2015, 03:54:53
Honestly I am starting to get sick that of the "oh he is totally good for it, don't get your panties in a bunch, just keep waiting" attitude. Not to take a slight at anyone but this sentiment is so pervasive and annoying... GON is providing us a service, and we pay high prices for it. I get that it is custom stuff and takes a while. However he is running behind almost 4 months on orders and that is unacceptable. Yes I know GON will eventually deliver on all his orders but this attitude of just letting him get the benefit of the doubt is just wrong.
He has thousands of our hard earned dollars and we just get told to wait. No that is not cool. He is providing a service and that service should include updates. We are paying a stranger in Korea, from a site most of us have been on for less than a year, a lot of money so it is completely normal to be worried with you have no idea what has been going on for 4+ months while waiting for your order which was advertised to be done in 2 months.
The community gives too much leniency to stuff like this and honestly we should all be giving GON our criticism and feedback so that he can improve his business. In my opinion people, doing GB's and assembly work should be more like bunny and billnye who were great at giving feedback every couple of days even when nothing was happening. They were not perfect but they are at least a great example. It is so annoying that just because we like GON and think is stuff is great that we just give him a pass to be late on delivering tons of product to his customers.
As I understand it he has had lots of issues in the past with his CNC manufacturer and that has held up a lot of orders. That is totally understandable. However he should let us know of that issue. We shouldn't say sorry for bothering GON, we shouldn't say sorry for wondering where our orders are, we shouldn't have to say sorry for trying to get customer service from him. I am a huge fan of GON and even though he has disappointed me with his lack of updates and false shipping dates, I will still support him.
Sorry about the rant. The thing is we shouldn't feel sorry for getting upset, and this doesn't just apply to GON. This applies to all the people offering services and products on GH. This isn't our fault, we give them our money in exchange for goods and a service. We fulfilled our end of the transaction by giving them money so it is only fair to wonder where our product is when it is late and overdue.
I pretty much just want to second this. I think GON's work is incredible, but this is frustrating as hell.
It's like going to an amazing restaurant and being told that the wait time to be seated is one hour. Two hours later, you still haven't been seated. You know the restaurant has incredible food and that the wait will totally be worth it, but that doesn't change the fact that you've waited long past the estimate and now you're just hungry and crabby because no one is telling you what is going on.
No one should have to go so far out of their way to contact GON. I understand he's CRAZY BUSY, but after how much we all paid, if he just came on once a week or whatever and posted and was like 'hey guys, here's what's up with your orders', I'd be a lot more calm than I am right now. It's like I said a few pages back, I custom ordered my new car and I had to wait two months to get it, but the dealer sent me updates like once a week on where it was in the build process.
I just want to know what's going on without having to hear it from someone else and without having to jump through hoops to contact GON. Those of us who are complaining just want some customer service and peace of mind. He seems like a cool guy and I know he's working hard, but I think all of us would feel better if he took five minutes a week to just come on here and give everyone an update.
Post by: eten on Sat, 07 March 2015, 13:41:52
Sorry about the rant. The thing is we shouldn't feel sorry for getting upset, and this doesn't just apply to GON. This applies to all the people offering services and products on GH. This isn't our fault, we give them our money in exchange for goods and a service. We fulfilled our end of the transaction by giving them money so it is only fair to wonder where our product is when it is late and overdue.
By all respects you didn't fulfill your end of the contract at all. Why you might ask BECAUSE building something from scratch takes TIME.
Sitting on your arse and getting all nasty won't make the item come any faster to your front door. In the world of cars spending $340,000USD on a Bentley Brooklands Coupe means you HAVE TO WAIT at least 18 months for delivery. Now according to you they should have the car ready for you to drive away but not when YOU insist on having it customized to your own specific needs.
Everything takes time, if you do not want to wait then set up your tent in the classifieds and harass someone else to sell it to you. Don't waste time in Group Buys or pretend you know what it's like since you just keep b1tching about yourself not getting what you want.
Harden up and shut the FVCK up for once >:D .
How have I not fulfilled it? I have wait more than twice the advertised lead time. I am at 5 months and counting.
to be honest it said estimate. There was never a hard date set by gon.
Then why provide estimates when they are so far off? I can accept 10-20% variance, but if he's waiting over double the advertised time, that's just not acceptable without some sort of communication to each individual customer privately. All it takes is a 2 liner e-mail to each customer and they won't bother you for two weeks. If you cannot even afford time to do this, you have to revisit your planning/forecasting model, either temporarily stop new orders or expand your staff.
I get that he's an one man army and provides quality work, but this isn't the way you run a business. We are the customer here and we expect responses for any inquiries we have towards our order.
Again, I'm not questioning the quality of his work. To me, this is like going to a restaurant with top notch food, but everything else about it sucks; the service, the atmosphere, the experience etc.
Post by: limster on Sun, 08 March 2015, 00:16:07
He seems like a cool guy and I know he's working hard, but I think all of us would feel better if he took five minutes a week to just come on here and give everyone an update.
trying not to pile on, I agree that we all (including GON) would be better served if a small amount of effort was spent to mitigate the demand, and at least warn anyone ordering on the site of the delay. Or even take ordering offline for a little while.
I guess as of now, we are the only ones that can warn and set expectations for potential new demand.
P.S. As a former freelancer, I know what it's like to find yourself overwhelmed, and feeling like you don't even have time to communicate; but being aware of, and honest about your limits is the best outcome, no matter what.
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 08 March 2015, 01:22:06
trying not to pile on, I agree that we all (including GON) would be better served if a small amount of effort was spent to mitigate the demand, and at least warn anyone ordering on the site of the delay. Or even take ordering offline for a little while.
My first GON keyboard took around eight months before it was completed and sent to me here in Crapland.
The Second keyboard took almost six months before it was delivered to my address as well. Don't understand why everyone here is so pissed off in waiting, he will finish your keyboard(s) and send them off to you when he's ready.
You young ones don't know the meaning of time because you are use to everything being handed over to you in a second, once you hand over your money. Things like keyboards that are built from scratch, will always take the longest time especially when there are at least 40 other keyboards ahead of your order being completed, as we speak here on Geekhack.
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Sun, 08 March 2015, 04:34:46
trying not to pile on, I agree that we all (including GON) would be better served if a small amount of effort was spent to mitigate the demand, and at least warn anyone ordering on the site of the delay. Or even take ordering offline for a little while.
My first GON keyboard took around eight months before it was completed and sent to me here in Crapland.
The Second keyboard took almost six months before it was delivered to my address as well. Don't understand why everyone here is so pissed off in waiting, he will finish your keyboard(s) and send them off to you when he's ready.
You young ones don't know the meaning of time because you are use to everything being handed over to you in a second, once you hand over your money. Things like keyboards that are built from scratch, will always take the longest time especially when there are at least 40 other keyboards ahead of your order being completed, as we speak here on Geekhack.
I think people here are unhappy about business ethics rather than being impatient.
I'm sure nobody would complain if the lead time was advertised as 8 months and there was proper communication at the end of said amount of time.
Post by: magically on Sun, 08 March 2015, 06:52:11
Honestly I am starting to get sick that of the "oh he is totally good for it, don't get your panties in a bunch, just keep waiting" attitude. Not to take a slight at anyone but this sentiment is so pervasive and annoying... GON is providing us a service, and we pay high prices for it. I get that it is custom stuff and takes a while. However he is running behind almost 4 months on orders and that is unacceptable. Yes I know GON will eventually deliver on all his orders but this attitude of just letting him get the benefit of the doubt is just wrong.
He has thousands of our hard earned dollars and we just get told to wait. No that is not cool. He is providing a service and that service should include updates. We are paying a stranger in Korea, from a site most of us have been on for less than a year, a lot of money so it is completely normal to be worried with you have no idea what has been going on for 4+ months while waiting for your order which was advertised to be done in 2 months.
The community gives too much leniency to stuff like this and honestly we should all be giving GON our criticism and feedback so that he can improve his business. In my opinion people, doing GB's and assembly work should be more like bunny and billnye who were great at giving feedback every couple of days even when nothing was happening. They were not perfect but they are at least a great example. It is so annoying that just because we like GON and think is stuff is great that we just give him a pass to be late on delivering tons of product to his customers.
As I understand it he has had lots of issues in the past with his CNC manufacturer and that has held up a lot of orders. That is totally understandable. However he should let us know of that issue. We shouldn't say sorry for bothering GON, we shouldn't say sorry for wondering where our orders are, we shouldn't have to say sorry for trying to get customer service from him. I am a huge fan of GON and even though he has disappointed me with his lack of updates and false shipping dates, I will still support him.
Sorry about the rant. The thing is we shouldn't feel sorry for getting upset, and this doesn't just apply to GON. This applies to all the people offering services and products on GH. This isn't our fault, we give them our money in exchange for goods and a service. We fulfilled our end of the transaction by giving them money so it is only fair to wonder where our product is when it is late and overdue.
I pretty much just want to second this. I think GON's work is incredible, but this is frustrating as hell.
It's like going to an amazing restaurant and being told that the wait time to be seated is one hour. Two hours later, you still haven't been seated. You know the restaurant has incredible food and that the wait will totally be worth it, but that doesn't change the fact that you've waited long past the estimate and now you're just hungry and crabby because no one is telling you what is going on.
No one should have to go so far out of their way to contact GON. I understand he's CRAZY BUSY, but after how much we all paid, if he just came on once a week or whatever and posted and was like 'hey guys, here's what's up with your orders', I'd be a lot more calm than I am right now. It's like I said a few pages back, I custom ordered my new car and I had to wait two months to get it, but the dealer sent me updates like once a week on where it was in the build process.
I just want to know what's going on without having to hear it from someone else and without having to jump through hoops to contact GON. Those of us who are complaining just want some customer service and peace of mind. He seems like a cool guy and I know he's working hard, but I think all of us would feel better if he took five minutes a week to just come on here and give everyone an update.
Third this. At least reply on Skype: really busy will get back to u...
Post by: Elrick on Sun, 08 March 2015, 06:55:32
I think people here are unhappy about business ethics rather than being impatient.
I'm sure nobody would complain if the lead time was advertised as 8 months and there was proper communication at the end of said amount of time.
What are you talking about "Business Ethics"? For christ sake he works on his own, all by himself, meaning that he actually constructs these keyboards by himself. Now if you can count up to 40 then you will know that a single person building 40 keyboards wouldn't take one week to build them all.....right?
Ask yourself how long would you take to build ONE keyboard from scratch? Now times that 40 times over hence that will take time, you see that wasn't very hard to figure out that your keyboard will take up to 8 months to complete. You don't need to be an einstein here to work out that these keyboards will take time, so please pull you heads out of your arses when you start accusing someone of having so-called 'bad business' ethics, since it's the ignorant buyer who never bothered asking about how long these keyboards take to build.
Very clear to see here we have morons who never bothered to do basic research and then making idiot assumptions that their keyboards will be shipped to them 2 weeks later after handing over the money. You lot deserve the Moronic Prize of Extreme Ignorance and Stupidity. How dare you start accusing GON of letting you down when you have literally crapped all over him for no reason. If you can't wait for a keyboard then FVCK the HELL OFF to somewhere else......Idiots 8) .
You lot here should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves, flinging stupid accusations upon someone who is actually building your keyboards, how dumb could you get? Never knew how some people here want someone to hold their hands for them and be told daily what is going on. You should ask him to change your nappies as well because this is a first for me seeing such nasty individuals who do nothing but accuse someone else of duplicitous behaviour.
Imsto and Qtan operate the same way when it comes to buying anything off their websites. Not all people here operate as BunnyLake holding your hands and making you feel confident in your own existence, time to grow up here and learn how to wait like everyone else in this world today.
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 08 March 2015, 08:23:56
In way it's the same as with Claks and Bro Caps, these are pieces of art and not mass produced objects, it's not your average business. Each board is unique, there will not be 2 identical, this is something that you will keep all your life, I know GON even signs some of the highly customized boards.
Try not to compare an order on GON's site with one on Amazon.
I ordered twice, each time it was only a PCB and plate, not even a full board because I don afford that, and each time it took ~3 months, and there was only soldering involved noting custom. There were a lot of money for me, had to sell a lot of things to get the funds, but all the waiting was well worth :cool:
Post by: JaccoW on Sun, 08 March 2015, 16:16:14
I think people here are unhappy about business ethics rather than being impatient. [...]Business Ethics - Investopedia (http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/business-ethics.asp):
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DEFINITION OF 'BUSINESS ETHICS'While Elrick voices it a bit harsh he is not entirely wrong. Accusing GON of bad 'business ethics' is not only wrong but even slightly malignant. Nowhere in your stories do I see any of the illegal things above.
The study of proper business policies and practices regarding potentially controversial issues, such as corporate governance, insider trading, bribery, discrimination, corporate social responsibility and fiduciary responsibilities. Business ethics are often guided by law, while other times provide a basic framework that businesses may choose to follow in order to gain public acceptance.
The word you are looking for is 'Lack of communication'.
Which you have every right to be btw. But as Elrick has already mentioned, having someone else build your board when he is doing many others at the same time takes a few months.
Even my Orion, which was built by Margon, took close to 5 months from start to finish. And Margon later ran into trouble because the workload was too high.
You handed over your money to an artisan keyboard builder. It is done when it is done. Don't push it because it will only frustrate both you and the builder without accomplishing anything.
Perhaps GON should shut down orders for now but it is very difficult to predict months ahead when you will run into trouble.
Companies can calculate it and even those often run into bottlenecks or sudden delays.
And the general rule in business is:
If it is important, call someone. E-mail/PM can and will be ignored.
Post by: jaemzp on Sun, 08 March 2015, 18:02:25
Post by: JaccoW on Mon, 09 March 2015, 02:58:33
Avoiding all the drama here... Would anyone happen to know the dimensions/size of the screws used in GONs keyboards? Specifically for his his acrylic case (or does he use a universal size?). Looking to change it up a bit when I eventually get mine. Thanks!Well, he offers M3 x 12mm (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/102-anodized-color-bolts.html) bolts on his website for the NS GONPAD, NS NerD 60/HHKB, NS NerD TKL and NS NerD 108. But it also mentions that the Acrylic Housings are not compatible. So... IDK. :/
Post by: radio_killah on Mon, 09 March 2015, 12:14:18
I do agree that "business ethics" was very a poor choice in words, a lack of communication is a much better descriptor for this situation. I also do agree that everyone should realize that these are custom items that take time. However at the same time, there should be at the minimum a comfortable level of communication between the buyer and the creator. I think that is fair and that is what people are asking for. Is every day unreasonable? Yes. Is once a month? No.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 09 March 2015, 15:27:42
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 09 March 2015, 16:23:34
Wow, useful Q&A thread degenerated to "I want my order NOW" thread. :confused:
welcome to geekhack
Post by: jaemzp on Mon, 09 March 2015, 20:50:26
Avoiding all the drama here... Would anyone happen to know the dimensions/size of the screws used in GONs keyboards? Specifically for his his acrylic case (or does he use a universal size?). Looking to change it up a bit when I eventually get mine. Thanks!Well, he offers M3 x 12mm (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/102-anodized-color-bolts.html) bolts on his website for the NS GONPAD, NS NerD 60/HHKB, NS NerD TKL and NS NerD 108. But it also mentions that the Acrylic Housings are not compatible. So... IDK. :/
Thanks for the quick reply, I'll keep that size in mind but I'll probably have to wait until I receive them from GON or contact him directly to be sure.
Post by: mattycee on Mon, 09 March 2015, 20:53:45
Wow, useful Q&A thread degenerated to "I want my order NOW" thread. :confused:
Yea..... I think this thread is called Q/A..... but some people just cannot stop themselves....... I think those individual should make a new thread. :rolleyes:
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Tue, 10 March 2015, 02:27:08
But what do you call misusing estimated lead times on top of no communication?
Sure its estimated and can be wrong, but nobody, including Gon, thinks the lead time is actually two months right now.
If he doesn't think so, then why is it okay for him to advertise it at his estimate?
If he know's it isn't true and he's taking orders from people on his site, without changing or letting them know beforehand, then I can go as far as saying he is lying.
We have people here that even contacted him multiple times and he said he was shipping their order very soon, only for it to not be true. Is that not lying?
It also really doesn't help for him to let his loyal elitist customers put his already unhappy customers in their rightful place for him.
Post by: mattycee on Tue, 10 March 2015, 02:50:05
I might have misused the term "business ethics."
But what do you call misusing estimated lead times on top of no communication?
Sure its estimated and can be wrong, but nobody, including Gon, thinks the lead time is actually two months right now.
If he doesn't think so, then why is it okay for him to advertise it at his estimate?
If he know's it isn't true and he's taking orders from people on his site, without changing or letting them know beforehand, then I can go as far as saying he is lying.
We have people here that even contacted him multiple times and he said he was shipping their order very soon, only for it to not be true. Is that not lying?
It also really doesn't help for him to let his loyal elitist customers put his already unhappy customers in their rightful place for him.
Bro get out of this thread and go make your own little angry thread. This is a Q&A thread for helping people that have questions. GO FLAME SOMEWHERE ELSE. Reported.
Post by: vindaon on Tue, 10 March 2015, 14:18:33
Wanting to buy some springs.
Post by: mattycee on Tue, 10 March 2015, 14:36:08
Are the delays mainly for custom builds or are they for all orders on his site?
Wanting to buy some springs.
I believe its for the whole site. I read people were still waiting for pcb parts and stuff. Might be better to ask Gon directly
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 10 March 2015, 20:41:04
Are the delays mainly for custom builds or are they for all orders on his site?
Wanting to buy some springs.
I believe its for the whole site. I read people were still waiting for pcb parts and stuff. Might be better to ask Gon directly
When I talked to him yesterday he said the delay is due to old orders.
Post by: StinkyTheDonut on Wed, 11 March 2015, 04:55:15
Believe it or not, I asked about the current lead time and these are the answers I got.I might have misused the term "business ethics."
But what do you call misusing estimated lead times on top of no communication?
Sure its estimated and can be wrong, but nobody, including Gon, thinks the lead time is actually two months right now.
If he doesn't think so, then why is it okay for him to advertise it at his estimate?
If he know's it isn't true and he's taking orders from people on his site, without changing or letting them know beforehand, then I can go as far as saying he is lying.
We have people here that even contacted him multiple times and he said he was shipping their order very soon, only for it to not be true. Is that not lying?
It also really doesn't help for him to let his loyal elitist customers put his already unhappy customers in their rightful place for him.
Bro get out of this thread and go make your own little angry thread. This is a Q&A thread for helping people that have questions. GO FLAME SOMEWHERE ELSE. Reported.
If you think I am flaming, then you are reading everything wrong. I and anyone that gave me an answer are the ones being flamed.
If you haven't realized, I haven't even got the chance to buy something from Gon and be angry about it yet.
Post by: Karura on Wed, 11 March 2015, 10:04:01
Post by: DanielT on Wed, 11 March 2015, 10:53:41
Has anyone heard from GON lately? I've tried to ask him about his 60% plate, but it's been over a week and I haven't heard anything from his Skype or emails. Perhaps something is going on?
There is nothing wrong with him :thumb:, BunnyLake spoke with GON a few days ago and so did also other users. Check here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69525.0
Post by: mattycee on Wed, 11 March 2015, 13:06:25
Believe it or not, I asked about the current lead time and these are the answers I got.I might have misused the term "business ethics."
But what do you call misusing estimated lead times on top of no communication?
Sure its estimated and can be wrong, but nobody, including Gon, thinks the lead time is actually two months right now.
If he doesn't think so, then why is it okay for him to advertise it at his estimate?
If he know's it isn't true and he's taking orders from people on his site, without changing or letting them know beforehand, then I can go as far as saying he is lying.
We have people here that even contacted him multiple times and he said he was shipping their order very soon, only for it to not be true. Is that not lying?
It also really doesn't help for him to let his loyal elitist customers put his already unhappy customers in their rightful place for him.
Bro get out of this thread and go make your own little angry thread. This is a Q&A thread for helping people that have questions. GO FLAME SOMEWHERE ELSE. Reported.
If you think I am flaming, then you are reading everything wrong. I and anyone that gave me an answer are the ones being flamed.
If you haven't realized, I haven't even got the chance to buy something from Gon and be angry about it yet.
Really? you should just leave this thread. You contribute nothing. Complaining about business ethics. Please go away.
"It also really doesn't help for him to let his loyal elitist customers put his already unhappy customers in their rightful place for him." <- this is you. Complaining? asking question? which one.
Post by: radio_killah on Wed, 11 March 2015, 16:43:21
Believe it or not, I asked about the current lead time and these are the answers I got.I might have misused the term "business ethics."
But what do you call misusing estimated lead times on top of no communication?
Sure its estimated and can be wrong, but nobody, including Gon, thinks the lead time is actually two months right now.
If he doesn't think so, then why is it okay for him to advertise it at his estimate?
If he know's it isn't true and he's taking orders from people on his site, without changing or letting them know beforehand, then I can go as far as saying he is lying.
We have people here that even contacted him multiple times and he said he was shipping their order very soon, only for it to not be true. Is that not lying?
It also really doesn't help for him to let his loyal elitist customers put his already unhappy customers in their rightful place for him.
Bro get out of this thread and go make your own little angry thread. This is a Q&A thread for helping people that have questions. GO FLAME SOMEWHERE ELSE. Reported.
If you think I am flaming, then you are reading everything wrong. I and anyone that gave me an answer are the ones being flamed.
If you haven't realized, I haven't even got the chance to buy something from Gon and be angry about it yet.
Really? you should just leave this thread. You contribute nothing. Complaining about business ethics. Please go away.
"It also really doesn't help for him to let his loyal elitist customers put his already unhappy customers in their rightful place for him." <- this is you. Complaining? asking question? which one.
Okay we get it, no need to attack the guy. Let's just stop responding to these off topic remarks and make this a Q&A thread again. We all understand that GON is busy and we just need to cope with it. There is literally nothing we can do but wait and try and contact him. (Myself included)
Post by: mattycee on Wed, 11 March 2015, 16:47:41
Believe it or not, I asked about the current lead time and these are the answers I got.I might have misused the term "business ethics."
But what do you call misusing estimated lead times on top of no communication?
Sure its estimated and can be wrong, but nobody, including Gon, thinks the lead time is actually two months right now.
If he doesn't think so, then why is it okay for him to advertise it at his estimate?
If he know's it isn't true and he's taking orders from people on his site, without changing or letting them know beforehand, then I can go as far as saying he is lying.
We have people here that even contacted him multiple times and he said he was shipping their order very soon, only for it to not be true. Is that not lying?
It also really doesn't help for him to let his loyal elitist customers put his already unhappy customers in their rightful place for him.
Bro get out of this thread and go make your own little angry thread. This is a Q&A thread for helping people that have questions. GO FLAME SOMEWHERE ELSE. Reported.
If you think I am flaming, then you are reading everything wrong. I and anyone that gave me an answer are the ones being flamed.
If you haven't realized, I haven't even got the chance to buy something from Gon and be angry about it yet.
Really? you should just leave this thread. You contribute nothing. Complaining about business ethics. Please go away.
"It also really doesn't help for him to let his loyal elitist customers put his already unhappy customers in their rightful place for him." <- this is you. Complaining? asking question? which one.
Okay we get it, no need to attack the guy. Let's just stop responding to these off topic remarks and make this a Q&A thread again. We all understand that GON is busy and we just need to cope with it. There is literally nothing we can do but wait and try and contact him. (Myself included)
No ones getting attacked. Facts are facts. I answered your question telling you to call in and all this flaming started to happen on a Q&A forum by you and that other individual. Now back to Q&A after clarifying that.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Wed, 11 March 2015, 20:14:50
Question: what can I do to make GON ship my order faster?
Answer: Leave him alone so he can work.
Post by: Battou62 on Thu, 12 March 2015, 10:00:34
Hey guys. I am not sure if this has been answered or not. Does anyone know if it is possible to reduce the usb polling rate on the nerd pcb? Also is it possible to modify the pcb so that you can use the keyboard to enter the computers bios?
I was able to reach GON on skype and got some answers to my questions. I will post the info here.
is it possible to reduce the polling rate on the nerd pcbs?
GON: no its fixed to 1000Hz ;)
I also can not enter the computer bios using the keyboard w/ nerd pcb.
GON: Turn it into 6KRO mode. ;)
GON: Fn1+U by default
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 12 March 2015, 10:13:21
Hey guys. I am not sure if this has been answered or not. Does anyone know if it is possible to reduce the usb polling rate on the nerd pcb? Also is it possible to modify the pcb so that you can use the keyboard to enter the computers bios?
I was able to reach GON on skype and got some answers to my questions. I will post the info here.
is it possible to reduce the polling rate on the nerd pcbs?
GON: no its fixed to 1000Hz ;)
I also can not enter the computer bios using the keyboard w/ nerd pcb.
GON: Turn it into 6KRO mode. ;)
GON: Fn1+U by default
That's some seriously useful info. Thanks for posting this!
Post by: Yazzz on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:34:43
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 12 March 2015, 14:42:37
Does anyone know if a Poker II PCB will fit the GON NS NerD Crystal 60? Without much modding if possible.
I forget, does the Poker 2 have the dip switches on the bottom?
Post by: KnivesM on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:04:38
Yea, it has a set of 4 dipswitches on the bottomDoes anyone know if a Poker II PCB will fit the GON NS NerD Crystal 60? Without much modding if possible.
I forget, does the Poker 2 have the dip switches on the bottom?
Post by: Yazzz on Thu, 12 March 2015, 15:32:33
Yea, it has a set of 4 dipswitches on the bottomDoes anyone know if a Poker II PCB will fit the GON NS NerD Crystal 60? Without much modding if possible.
I forget, does the Poker 2 have the dip switches on the bottom?
So it will work? :D
Post by: metafour on Sun, 15 March 2015, 10:58:22
I know he's been taking a while to get assembly orders out and I want to know how that's affected just parts before I decide to place an order.
Post by: xybre on Mon, 16 March 2015, 11:17:47
Post by: mattycee on Mon, 16 March 2015, 15:40:59
After 7 months I got an email from GON's automated system claiming my order is in processing. I assume that's a good thing. I'd be great to have the keyboard I ordered and not have to put in a complaint with the payment processor before the time limit is up (9 months). Looking forward to having a fully-programmable keyboard finally.
yea go ask that guy that was complaining about gon. His username is radio_killah or soemthing in the previous page. He just got his gon and now he's gone from this thread :thumb:
Post by: henz on Mon, 16 March 2015, 15:53:47
After 7 months I got an email from GON's automated system claiming my order is in processing. I assume that's a good thing. I'd be great to have the keyboard I ordered and not have to put in a complaint with the payment processor before the time limit is up (9 months). Looking forward to having a fully-programmable keyboard finally.
Got the same mail on Friday, i got about 600 $ worth
Of parts ordered in november and december in joint shipment. Our boards are coming !
Post by: ceflame on Mon, 16 March 2015, 16:29:04
Post by: pasph on Mon, 16 March 2015, 17:42:45
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 16 March 2015, 19:24:34
This board is gonna be my project when I get back home to Malaysia this summer, really can't wait for it.
Post by: archer on Thu, 19 March 2015, 15:57:22
Post by: katushkin on Fri, 20 March 2015, 22:49:23
Hey GON, ygpm! ;)
He is a lot more active on Skype as he is so busy recently.
You may remain frustrated if you rely on PMs to try and contact him.
Post by: Hiroyuki on Sat, 21 March 2015, 07:21:42
Post by: Lpwl on Sat, 21 March 2015, 08:20:15
I ordered a NS NerD TKL case less than a month ago and paid the invoice only 10 days ago.
GON prepared my order, combined it with another one (some parts and the limited DTA award stamped PCB - ordered in December) and he gave me a voucher for saved shipping cost.
All my items were shipped yesterday.
Five star service !
:thumb:
Post by: Slaine777 on Mon, 23 March 2015, 20:36:39
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 23 March 2015, 21:37:26
Ok, silly newbie question.
1. The in switch LED option are the LEDs located in the recess on the switches under the keycaps
2. the side LED is the lighting in the polycarbonate mid, correct?
3. What is the on PCB backlighting?
1. Yes the in-switch LED's are just for the recessed LED spot on the switches.
2/3. Side LED's should be the same as PCB backlighting where the LED's are used to light the polycarbonate layer.
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/129-nerd-side-ledsmd-led-soldering.html
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 23 March 2015, 21:52:20
I'm supposed to break this piece off right?
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Also i don't have a picture of it atm but the acrylic case at the USB opening has a very thin piece connecting the whole ring (2nd piece from bottom separating plate from bottom piece)
I'm supposed to break that off as well right? If no one understands what i mean then i'll just take a picture.
Post by: Slaine777 on Mon, 23 March 2015, 22:27:40
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 23 March 2015, 23:04:00
I actually have a question here, i'm pretty sure i know the answer but i'm just looking for some confirmation.
I'm supposed to break this piece off right?
(Attachment Link)
Also i don't have a picture of it atm but the acrylic case at the USB opening has a very thin piece connecting the whole ring (2nd piece from bottom separating plate from bottom piece)
I'm supposed to break that off as well right? If no one understands what i mean then i'll just take a picture.
PCB yes, case idk
Post by: ceflame on Mon, 23 March 2015, 23:18:24
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 23 March 2015, 23:23:16
I actually have a question here, i'm pretty sure i know the answer but i'm just looking for some confirmation.
I'm supposed to break this piece off right?
(Attachment Link)
Also i don't have a picture of it atm but the acrylic case at the USB opening has a very thin piece connecting the whole ring (2nd piece from bottom separating plate from bottom piece)
I'm supposed to break that off as well right? If no one understands what i mean then i'll just take a picture.
PCB yes, case idk
Thanks. I'm going to assume that the PCB just floats there being held in by the solder from the switches?
Also the plate it too thick for the switches to click in, do I need to glue them or something? Or is being soldered to the PCB going to be enough?
I remember breaking the USB part off on accident, so maybe yes. Does the connector fit if the part is still there?You know, I never tried but now that I think about that, it totally wouldn't fit with that part there.
It's probably just for shipping purposes or something even though GON ships the cases assembled.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 24 March 2015, 05:25:26
Soldering them is good enough, but they shouldn't fall out of the plate, they should still need some force to pop out.I actually have a question here, i'm pretty sure i know the answer but i'm just looking for some confirmation.
I'm supposed to break this piece off right?
(Attachment Link)
Also i don't have a picture of it atm but the acrylic case at the USB opening has a very thin piece connecting the whole ring (2nd piece from bottom separating plate from bottom piece)
I'm supposed to break that off as well right? If no one understands what i mean then i'll just take a picture.
PCB yes, case idk
Thanks. I'm going to assume that the PCB just floats there being held in by the solder from the switches?
Also the plate it too thick for the switches to click in, do I need to glue them or something? Or is being soldered to the PCB going to be enough?I remember breaking the USB part off on accident, so maybe yes. Does the connector fit if the part is still there?You know, I never tried but now that I think about that, it totally wouldn't fit with that part there.
It's probably just for shipping purposes or something even though GON ships the cases assembled.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 24 March 2015, 05:35:49
Soldering them is good enough, but they shouldn't fall out of the plate, they should still need some force to pop out.
They fit in snug and don't move around, like I could probably turn it upside down without the switches falling out but it just doesn't seem right lol. If you guys say that's how it is and that it's alright then I'll just go with that lol.
Thanks.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 24 March 2015, 05:38:26
Thats how my b.face was, snug, and didn't fall out, but didn't snap in. Are you using plate or PCB mount switches? Because I also used PCB mount switches, so they would also snap into the board.Soldering them is good enough, but they shouldn't fall out of the plate, they should still need some force to pop out.
They fit in snug and don't move around, like I could probably turn it upside down without the switches falling out but it just doesn't seem right lol. If you guys say that's how it is and that it's alright then I'll just go with that lol.
Thanks.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 24 March 2015, 05:48:57
I'm using red plate mounted switches that I harvested from my K95 when I swapped blue ones in.Thats how my b.face was, snug, and didn't fall out, but didn't snap in. Are you using plate or PCB mount switches? Because I also used PCB mount switches, so they would also snap into the board.Soldering them is good enough, but they shouldn't fall out of the plate, they should still need some force to pop out.
They fit in snug and don't move around, like I could probably turn it upside down without the switches falling out but it just doesn't seem right lol. If you guys say that's how it is and that it's alright then I'll just go with that lol.
Thanks.
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 24 March 2015, 05:51:00
That should be fine, as long as they don't fall outI'm using red plate mounted switches that I harvested from my K95 when I swapped blue ones in.Thats how my b.face was, snug, and didn't fall out, but didn't snap in. Are you using plate or PCB mount switches? Because I also used PCB mount switches, so they would also snap into the board.Soldering them is good enough, but they shouldn't fall out of the plate, they should still need some force to pop out.
They fit in snug and don't move around, like I could probably turn it upside down without the switches falling out but it just doesn't seem right lol. If you guys say that's how it is and that it's alright then I'll just go with that lol.
Thanks.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 24 March 2015, 05:56:10
I might still use electrical tape or something to make it super snug if I feel uncomfortable with it lol.That should be fine, as long as they don't fall outI'm using red plate mounted switches that I harvested from my K95 when I swapped blue ones in.Thats how my b.face was, snug, and didn't fall out, but didn't snap in. Are you using plate or PCB mount switches? Because I also used PCB mount switches, so they would also snap into the board.Soldering them is good enough, but they shouldn't fall out of the plate, they should still need some force to pop out.
They fit in snug and don't move around, like I could probably turn it upside down without the switches falling out but it just doesn't seem right lol. If you guys say that's how it is and that it's alright then I'll just go with that lol.
Thanks.
Post by: Hiroyuki on Tue, 24 March 2015, 10:26:08
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 24 March 2015, 10:27:31
Is it possible to open the switches on a GON NS NerD 108 case without desoldering the switches first?
No, not possible on any NS design from GON.
Post by: Hiroyuki on Tue, 24 March 2015, 10:28:39
Is it possible to open the switches on a GON NS NerD 108 case without desoldering the switches first?
No, not possible on any NS design from GON.
Thanks for the super-quick answer :D
Ok, then I'll have to mod the switches before I solder them in ^^
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 28 March 2015, 12:37:03
First of all which resistors would I use for for On-PCB SMD LED backlighting?
The parts need list under manuals (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/137-parts-needed-for-a-kbd.html) says '13. Resistors for LEDs - 470R for Backlight LEDs(In-Switch or On-PCB), 133R/150R for Side LEDs'.
But I'm confused since On-PCB uses the same SMD LEDs like the Side ones, so shouldn't it be 133R/150R same as those? Is the base voltage different?
Are both of these bottom row layouts supported by the NS Crystal Case? Are there other options?
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I realized in Lastpilot's Crystal TKL Build Log (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65501.msg1531763#msg1531763) he mentions he reached out to GON for matching polycarbonate screws.
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'Screws: If you've ever seen a GON keyboard, you will know why having matching flathead screws is important. The entire design is almost dependent on it. So I wanted mine to match. I wanted them to look seamless. I needed flathead polycorbonate flathead screws. I searched for days. They were not easy to find. Metric, flathead and polycarb? Go fish. Luckily knowing GON and his superb customer service, I reached out to him. He made it happen. Thanks GON.'
Has anyone else asked GON about polycarb screws? Whats the recommended way to contact GON, should I just shoot him a PM about this? :)
Post by: henz on Sat, 28 March 2015, 14:02:00
I'm about to order a Nerd60 PCB and NS Crystal Case and I have a couple of questions...
First of all which resistors would I use for for On-PCB SMD LED backlighting?
The parts need list under manuals (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/137-parts-needed-for-a-kbd.html) says '13. Resistors for LEDs - 470R for Backlight LEDs(In-Switch or On-PCB), 133R/150R for Side LEDs'.
But I'm confused since On-PCB uses the same SMD LEDs like the Side ones, so shouldn't it be 133R/150R same as those? Is the base voltage different?
Are both of these bottom row layouts supported by the NS Crystal Case? Are there other options?MoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/kmGvU4x.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/CfqhjJv.png)
I realized in Lastpilot's Crystal TKL Build Log (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65501.msg1531763#msg1531763) he mentions he reached out to GON for matching polycarbonate screws.More'Screws: If you've ever seen a GON keyboard, you will know why having matching flathead screws is important. The entire design is almost dependent on it. So I wanted mine to match. I wanted them to look seamless. I needed flathead polycorbonate flathead screws. I searched for days. They were not easy to find. Metric, flathead and polycarb? Go fish. Luckily knowing GON and his superb customer service, I reached out to him. He made it happen. Thanks GON.'
Has anyone else asked GON about polycarb screws? Whats the recommended way to contact GON, should I just shoot him a PM about this? :)
here is a crash course:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Choosing-The-Resistor-To-Use-With-LEDs/
what you are calculating is resitance for a single led, different colors have different voltages and forward currents, so if you want to use the side leds on the on board leds(plateless build im guessing) then you need the same resistors as you would use on the side led.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sat, 28 March 2015, 14:46:55
here is a crash course:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Choosing-The-Resistor-To-Use-With-LEDs/
what you are calculating is resitance for a single led, different colors have different voltages and forward currents, so if you want to use the side leds on the on board leds(plateless build im guessing) then you need the same resistors as you would use on the side led.
Thx for the answer henz!
I've calculated resistors before, but my problem/confusion is more based on the seemingly conflicting information given on GONs website.
I guess it would all make sense tho if the supply voltage for side LEDs is different from the backlight ones, and you could actually calculate that the same way but I'm confused by the given information.
The specs for resistors on GONs website (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/electric-parts/15-resistorssmd-100-pcs.html) mention:
For NerD Side LEDs of 3V(Green, Blue, Purplish Blue, Pink, White) - 133 Ohm Recommended
For NerD Side LEDs of 2V(Red, Orange, Gold(Yellow)) - 133 or 150 Ohm Recommended
For NerD Switch Backlight LEDs of 2V/3V - 470 Ohm Recommended
So both LED types seem to require the same voltage 2/3V, however the Side LEDs use less ohm which I guess means the supplied Voltage is less for the Side LEDs.
Which would also explain why not to use the same resistors as for the side LEDs when you use the same SMD LEDs for backlighting as stated in GONs parts list (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/137-parts-needed-for-a-kbd.html)...
I actually just did the math and the numbers seem to work out very well so I guess this is the reason. So for example:
Side LED: 2V SMD-LED, 150 Ohm resistor, (20mA) -> supplied V seems to be about 5V
Backlight: 2V LED, 470 Ohm resistor, (20mA) -> supplied V seems to be about 12V
So I guess you would actually use the default 470 Ohm for regular and on-pcb backlight, even tho the same smd LEDs use 150 Ohm when used as side LEDs.
Its pretty much just as described on GONs website but different supplied V confused me a lot... xD
Post by: henz on Sat, 28 March 2015, 15:32:10
here is a crash course:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Choosing-The-Resistor-To-Use-With-LEDs/
what you are calculating is resitance for a single led, different colors have different voltages and forward currents, so if you want to use the side leds on the on board leds(plateless build im guessing) then you need the same resistors as you would use on the side led.
Thx for the answer henz!
I've calculated resistors before, but my problem/confusion is more based on the seemingly conflicting information given on GONs website.
I guess it would all make sense tho if the supply voltage for side LEDs is different from the backlight ones, and you could actually calculate that the same way but I'm confused by the given information.
The specs for resistors on GONs website (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/electric-parts/15-resistorssmd-100-pcs.html) mention:
For NerD Side LEDs of 3V(Green, Blue, Purplish Blue, Pink, White) - 133 Ohm Recommended
For NerD Side LEDs of 2V(Red, Orange, Gold(Yellow)) - 133 or 150 Ohm Recommended
For NerD Switch Backlight LEDs of 2V/3V - 470 Ohm Recommended
So both LED types seem to require the same voltage 2/3V, however the Side LEDs use less ohm which I guess means the supplied Voltage is less for the Side LEDs.
Which would also explain why not to use the same resistors as for the side LEDs when you use the same SMD LEDs for backlighting as stated in GONs parts list (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/137-parts-needed-for-a-kbd.html)...
I actually just did the math and the numbers seem to work out very well so I guess this is the reason. So for example:
Side LED: 2V SMD-LED, 150 Ohm resistor, (20mA) -> supplied V seems to be about 5V
Backlight: 2V LED, 470 Ohm resistor, (20mA) -> supplied V seems to be about 12V
So I guess you would actually use the default 470 Ohm for regular and on-pcb backlight, even tho the same smd LEDs use 150 Ohm when used as side LEDs.
Its pretty much just as described on GONs website but different supplied V confused me a lot... xD
ah i had no idea it was not the same voltage(Need to bring out my multimeter more), as usb original voltage is 5v,I guessed i just assumed that the in switch leds had lower forward current and/or voltage. But then if its 12v then you need atleast 3v/20ma leds to match the 470 resistors. or 2v/20ma with 560
Post by: FoC_Tow on Mon, 30 March 2015, 12:59:30
Is there any way to buy polycarbonate screws for your keyboards? I can't find any M3x12mm ones anywhere! Maybe there is better availability in S. Korea?
Maybe something like this?Show Image(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51LstE7Om6L._SX342_.jpg)
Yes I can get them in Korea.(But what I can buy is not - but +)
But they are expensive, and are not sold in small qty.
100 pcs of them are sold at about $20(including domestic shipping and tax in Korea).
So if I proxy them for you, your cost will be about $22(including transaction fee) + shipping.
I have the same question regarding polycarbonate screws GON.
(After seeing how amazing Lastpilot's Crystal with polycarb screws looks its hard to imagine using anything else) =D
Is it still possible to order these from you, are they still available?
When I place my order for a crystal, can i just specify 'plus 100 polycarb screws' in the notes for example?
I can't wait to finally order, but this has been holding me back since I tried to avoid shipping twice... =)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 31 March 2015, 09:19:06
Is there any way to buy polycarbonate screws for your keyboards? I can't find any M3x12mm ones anywhere! Maybe there is better availability in S. Korea?
Maybe something like this?Show Image(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51LstE7Om6L._SX342_.jpg)
Yes I can get them in Korea.(But what I can buy is not - but +)
But they are expensive, and are not sold in small qty.
100 pcs of them are sold at about $20(including domestic shipping and tax in Korea).
So if I proxy them for you, your cost will be about $22(including transaction fee) + shipping.
I have the same question regarding polycarbonate screws GON.
(After seeing how amazing Lastpilot's Crystal with polycarb screws looks its hard to imagine using anything else) =D
Is it still possible to order these from you, are they still available?
When I place my order for a crystal, can i just specify 'plus 100 polycarb screws' in the notes for example?
I can't wait to finally order, but this has been holding me back since I tried to avoid shipping twice... =)
After looking at this, have you asked Last to see if he maybe has the other 90-something extra screws that he could sell? lol
Post by: gravenshard on Tue, 31 March 2015, 09:20:55
Is there any way to buy polycarbonate screws for your keyboards? I can't find any M3x12mm ones anywhere! Maybe there is better availability in S. Korea?
Maybe something like this?Show Image(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51LstE7Om6L._SX342_.jpg)
Yes I can get them in Korea.(But what I can buy is not - but +)
But they are expensive, and are not sold in small qty.
100 pcs of them are sold at about $20(including domestic shipping and tax in Korea).
So if I proxy them for you, your cost will be about $22(including transaction fee) + shipping.
I have the same question regarding polycarbonate screws GON.
(After seeing how amazing Lastpilot's Crystal with polycarb screws looks its hard to imagine using anything else) =D
Is it still possible to order these from you, are they still available?
When I place my order for a crystal, can i just specify 'plus 100 polycarb screws' in the notes for example?
I can't wait to finally order, but this has been holding me back since I tried to avoid shipping twice... =)
After looking at this, have you asked Last to see if he maybe has the other 90-something extra screws that he could sell? lol
Yeah go ask lastpilot, he sold me some last month.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 31 March 2015, 12:50:04
After looking at this, have you asked Last to see if he maybe has the other 90-something extra screws that he could sell? lol
Yeah go ask lastpilot, he sold me some last month.
Thx a lot for the help guys! :)
Last actually reached out to me yesterday and offered some of his screws! Thx so much again Last! :thumb:
I had already send my order to GON tho, asking for screws in the comments, and just got an interesting reply that kinda raised new questions... xD
GON mentioned:
'As for polycarb screws, they are a little bit short... so you have to take care when fastening with them... This is why I don't sell them.
(If you need them I can get you as I did for Lastpilot. Don;t worry. ;)) $25 will be added for 100pcs of PC bolts.'
In the meantime, I also found a German shop specialized on synthetic screws (http://www.kunststoffschraube.de/xshop/index.php?language=en&cPath=527_1790_1791#page=1&display_selector=0&perpage_selector=21&products_sorter=0&specialsOnly=0&minimumPrice=0&maximumPrice=1) which happens to have polycarb screws.
They have countersunk M3 pc screws in up to 25mm length, so I'm wondering if they would actually work even better and what the recommended length for a Crystal NS Case would be?
(They have 10.8 - 12.8 - 15 - 18 - 20 and 25mm lenghts for example...)
Does anyone know what the standard length of the metal screws would be?
Post by: Lpwl on Wed, 01 April 2015, 02:27:12
After looking at this, have you asked Last to see if he maybe has the other 90-something extra screws that he could sell? lolYeah go ask lastpilot, he sold me some last month.
Thx a lot for the help guys! :)
Last actually reached out to me yesterday and offered some of his screws! Thx so much again Last! :thumb:
I had already send my order to GON tho, asking for screws in the comments, and just got an interesting reply that kinda raised new questions... xD
GON mentioned:
'As for polycarb screws, they are a little bit short... so you have to take care when fastening with them... This is why I don't sell them.
(If you need them I can get you as I did for Lastpilot. Don;t worry. ;)) $25 will be added for 100pcs of PC bolts.'
In the meantime, I also found a German shop specialized on synthetic screws (http://www.kunststoffschraube.de/xshop/index.php?language=en&cPath=527_1790_1791#page=1&display_selector=0&perpage_selector=21&products_sorter=0&specialsOnly=0&minimumPrice=0&maximumPrice=1) which happens to have polycarb screws.
They have countersunk M3 pc screws in up to 25mm length, so I'm wondering if they would actually work even better and what the recommended length for a Crystal NS Case would be?
(They have 10.8 - 12.8 - 15 - 18 - 20 and 25mm lenghts for example...)
Does anyone know what the standard length of the metal screws would be?
From GON's website (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/102-anodized-color-bolts.html) and my own observation with my NS case (not a NS Crystal one) :
(http://i.imgur.com/8yRXK67.jpg)
12mm should be the right lenght.
Post by: litesung on Wed, 01 April 2015, 14:58:32
Post by: Azumia on Wed, 01 April 2015, 17:35:56
This (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/custom-kbds-w-assembly/66-gon-ns-nerd-tkl-w-tuningassembly.html) is the keyboard I ordered - The NS NerD TKL.
I ordered this acrylic case (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/82-acrylic-housing-for-nerd-tkl.html) as well; This (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2ebhsb/gon_nerd_tkl/) and this (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2kidms/photos_gon_nerd_tkl/) was the look I was going for. In that second link, the guy says that what he has is the acrylic housing.
However, the screws don't line up and it's pretty obvious that I somehow made a mistake (or I'm a giant idiot, I'm not sure which) because the acrylic case I received is not compatible with my NerD TKL.
Did I order the wrong one?
Post by: ceflame on Wed, 01 April 2015, 17:38:44
I think I screwed something up when I ordered.
This (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/custom-kbds-w-assembly/66-gon-ns-nerd-tkl-w-tuningassembly.html) is the keyboard I ordered - The NS NerD TKL.
I ordered this acrylic case (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/82-acrylic-housing-for-nerd-tkl.html) as well; This (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2ebhsb/gon_nerd_tkl/) and this (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2kidms/photos_gon_nerd_tkl/) was the look I was going for. In that second link, the guy says that what he has is the acrylic housing.
However, the screws don't line up and it's pretty obvious that I somehow made a mistake (or I'm a giant idiot, I'm not sure which) because the acrylic case I received is not compatible with my NerD TKL.
Did I order the wrong one?
Hey, that second link is mine! Post some pictures of what you received so we can see.
Post by: ceflame on Wed, 01 April 2015, 17:49:09
You can't swap over the pcb/metal plate from the NS Nerd TKL over to the acrylic housing AFAIK. To use the acrylic housing, you need to assemble the PCB using the acrylic plate.
You probably need to buy another NerD TKL PCB to use the acrylic housing, or you would have to desolder all the switches from the NS Housing top plate/pcb and redo it using the acrylic plate.
Post by: Azumia on Wed, 01 April 2015, 18:03:51
I think I understand you now. You ordered a completed/soldered NerD TKL from GON right?
You can't swap over the pcb/metal plate from the NS Nerd TKL over to the acrylic housing AFAIK. To use the acrylic housing, you need to assemble the PCB using the acrylic plate.
You probably need to buy another NerD TKL PCB to use the acrylic housing, or you would have to desolder all the switches from the NS Housing top plate/pcb and redo it using the acrylic plate.
Yeah, I did order it fully assembled. :<
I couldn't tell from any of the pictures I found; I thought it was similar to a Poker II case where you could just swap them around however you wanted. I'm super happy with my new keyboard, but I wish I had known so I didn't waste the money on an acrylic case I wouldn't be able to use. D:
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 02 April 2015, 02:21:13
also I don't under the "Anodizing type" what does it changes?
Post by: yobinad on Thu, 02 April 2015, 03:26:56
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 02 April 2015, 03:28:49
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 02 April 2015, 04:31:58
is there a place on the website to preview the housing colors?
also I don't under the "Anodizing type" what does it changes?
There are two choices for anodizing, hard and soft. Hard anodizing is a grey to dark grey depending on the aluminum alloy you are using, it's also a much harder coating which means it's more scratch resistant. Soft anodizing allows you to choose colors but because it's softer it's easier to scratch. If you want grey choose hard and if you want a color choose soft. There is an album of the colors somewhere but I don't know where.
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 02 April 2015, 04:48:27
Alway assumed the case were acrylic now I get it, thanks Joey.is there a place on the website to preview the housing colors?
also I don't under the "Anodizing type" what does it changes?
There are two choices for anodizing, hard and soft. Hard anodizing is a grey to dark grey depending on the aluminum alloy you are using, it's also a much harder coating which means it's more scratch resistant. Soft anodizing allows you to choose colors but because it's softer it's easier to scratch. If you want grey choose hard and if you want a color choose soft. There is an album of the colors somewhere but I don't know where.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 02 April 2015, 06:30:12
From GON's website (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/102-anodized-color-bolts.html) and my own observation with my NS case (not a NS Crystal one) :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8yRXK67.jpg)
12mm should be the right lenght.
Much Thanks Lpwl! :)
Can you tell if there is still a little extra room left? I could order 10.8 or 12.8mm but im scared I might have to sand them all down to fit... xD
Alway assumed the case were acrylic now I get it, thanks Joey.is there a place on the website to preview the housing colors?
also I don't under the "Anodizing type" what does it changes?
There are two choices for anodizing, hard and soft. Hard anodizing is a grey to dark grey depending on the aluminum alloy you are using, it's also a much harder coating which means it's more scratch resistant. Soft anodizing allows you to choose colors but because it's softer it's easier to scratch. If you want grey choose hard and if you want a color choose soft. There is an album of the colors somewhere but I don't know where.
On acrylic cases you can usually select the color of all acrylic Layers,
on NS cases you can choose the type (and color for soft) of alu top and bottom anodizing,
and for the Crystal you can only choose the bolt/screw anodizing color since the case is always frosted/clear. (polycarbonate) =)
Post by: Lpwl on Sat, 04 April 2015, 13:10:04
No room left, sadly nop !
From GON's website (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/102-anodized-color-bolts.html) and my own observation with my NS case (not a NS Crystal one) :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8yRXK67.jpg)
12mm should be the right lenght.
Much Thanks Lpwl! :)
Can you tell if there is still a little extra room left? I could order 10.8 or 12.8mm but im scared I might have to sand them all down to fit... xDAlway assumed the case were acrylic now I get it, thanks Joey.is there a place on the website to preview the housing colors?
also I don't under the "Anodizing type" what does it changes?
There are two choices for anodizing, hard and soft. Hard anodizing is a grey to dark grey depending on the aluminum alloy you are using, it's also a much harder coating which means it's more scratch resistant. Soft anodizing allows you to choose colors but because it's softer it's easier to scratch. If you want grey choose hard and if you want a color choose soft. There is an album of the colors somewhere but I don't know where.
On acrylic cases you can usually select the color of all acrylic Layers,
on NS cases you can choose the type (and color for soft) of alu top and bottom anodizing,
and for the Crystal you can only choose the bolt/screw anodizing color since the case is always frosted/clear. (polycarbonate) =)
Post by: FoC_Tow on Sun, 05 April 2015, 17:11:16
No room left, sadly nop !
Thx for checking Lpwl! =)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 06 April 2015, 06:53:30
Does anyone know what the key stroke is to turn them on? I'm pretty sure it can be done hardware wise and not only a computer right? I don't have access to a computer right now to see.
Post by: henz on Mon, 06 April 2015, 14:31:26
EDIT: FN(Right windows button)+S works also
Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 07 April 2015, 05:07:47
i think side leds are numlock by default(if its keylock by default)Thanks, you're right.
EDIT: FN(Right windows button)+S works also
LPWL actually answered this for me in another thread since I got impatient and started cross posting XD
for future reference FN1 + S is for side led's and FN1 + F is for front led's. (ones on the switches)
Post by: jorgenslee on Tue, 07 April 2015, 22:25:12
I have a GON nerd60 on the way and just wondering if it is possible.
Post by: DanielT on Wed, 08 April 2015, 03:39:07
Aside from the capslock near indicator next to capslock key, can I use the in switch led of capslock as capslock indicator?
I have a GON nerd60 on the way and just wondering if it is possible.
As far as I know you can't do that. What you can do is reroute the LED connection to the indicator LED pads, it will be tricky but it can be done. You will need to isolate the pads from the in switch LED, I think some nail polish will do the job. The LED leads will go thru the in switch holes and reroute them to the indicator LED pads. If the LED leads are not long enough you can use some wires to do the job. I think this would be a non destructive mod, and can be reversed very easy.
Post by: ttzhou on Wed, 08 April 2015, 07:55:40
Soldering switches is fun, but those tiny parts are a big nope-parade.
Post by: pasph on Wed, 08 April 2015, 09:17:58
Q: When you buy the SMD/Resistor/Diode soldering option for the NERD TKL PCB 2.0, do you still need to purchase the SMDs, resistors, diodes separately, or is that included in that charge? My guess is they are sold separately but wanted to check.
Soldering switches is fun, but those tiny parts are a big nope-parade.
From GON himself:
"Hi ;) If you choose the options, needed electric parts are included. You don't have to add additional parts in the cart."
Post by: ttzhou on Wed, 08 April 2015, 09:33:51
Q: When you buy the SMD/Resistor/Diode soldering option for the NERD TKL PCB 2.0, do you still need to purchase the SMDs, resistors, diodes separately, or is that included in that charge? My guess is they are sold separately but wanted to check.
Soldering switches is fun, but those tiny parts are a big nope-parade.
From GON himself:
"Hi ;) If you choose the options, needed electric parts are included. You don't have to add additional parts in the cart."
;D I love GON (and you).
Post by: Slaine777 on Wed, 08 April 2015, 19:39:44
Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 09 April 2015, 07:22:15
With the aluminium housings and the translucent Gateron switch bodies and tops can the on PCB lighting shine up through the switches for one color of backlighting and in switch LEDs be used for a second color?I was curious if both smt and regular led's can be simultaneously used as well.
Post by: MAR82 on Thu, 09 April 2015, 07:36:46
With the aluminium housings and the translucent Gateron switch bodies and tops can the on PCB lighting shine up through the switches for one color of backlighting and in switch LEDs be used for a second color?I was curious if both smt and regular led's can be simultaneously used as well.
As far as I know the aluminium housings like the Tex 60% can't be used with the underside SMD LEDs (well that's what Gon told me when I was buying my PCB)
Also yes, you can use the SMD LEDs on the bottom side at the same time as the in switch LEDs (there are different settings for both)
Post by: henz on Thu, 09 April 2015, 07:44:26
With the aluminium housings and the translucent Gateron switch bodies and tops can the on PCB lighting shine up through the switches for one color of backlighting and in switch LEDs be used for a second color?I was curious if both smt and regular led's can be simultaneously used as well.
if the two connectors are paralleled you could basically just use a lower ohm reistor and use both leds like this:
http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/ledcalculator/img/led-circuit.php?supply=12&resistor=240&color=red&nr=2&connection=p
I think thats a question for the pcb maker :)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 09 April 2015, 07:48:02
Post by: MAR82 on Thu, 09 April 2015, 07:58:42
I realize now that I'd have to desolder all my switches to gain access to the smt led pads which totally isn't worth it for me lol
I would need to take mine out of it's housing to look. But I think the SMD LED pads should be accessible even with the switches in place
Post by: henz on Thu, 09 April 2015, 13:36:50
I realize now that I'd have to desolder all my switches to gain access to the smt led pads which totally isn't worth it for me lol
I would need to take mine out of it's housing to look. But I think the SMD LED pads should be accessible even with the switches in place
He is talking about pads which are on the top/sunny side of the pcb, if you have a plate at all, then the pads wont be accessible.
Post by: evera on Thu, 09 April 2015, 14:52:03
also, i'm thinking about using SMD LEDs on top/bottom, and maybe also in-switch ones, but I can't really tell which resistor pad is for which LED - is there an easy way to tell?
Post by: yobinad on Thu, 09 April 2015, 15:47:53
I bought the wireless combo on the ver2.0 nerd60, but I'm not exactly sure where to connect things - has anyone else built one of these?
also, i'm thinking about using SMD LEDs on top/bottom, and maybe also in-switch ones, but I can't really tell which resistor pad is for which LED - is there an easy way to tell?
Is this one? (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/134-wireless-module-installation.html)
Post by: evera on Thu, 09 April 2015, 15:52:31
I bought the wireless combo on the ver2.0 nerd60, but I'm not exactly sure where to connect things - has anyone else built one of these?
also, i'm thinking about using SMD LEDs on top/bottom, and maybe also in-switch ones, but I can't really tell which resistor pad is for which LED - is there an easy way to tell?
Is this one? (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/134-wireless-module-installation.html)
Ah - I ordered the combo from the PCB page, so I didn't see that. This is great - thanks!
I think I was primarily confused about the last two steps - and the pictures seem to be missing for those, dang.
Post by: Slaine777 on Thu, 09 April 2015, 16:20:14
Post by: evera on Thu, 09 April 2015, 18:30:29
Post by: Evo_Spec on Fri, 10 April 2015, 00:30:12
There are three LED options on the NerD PCB, and I'm talking about the GON housings. There is the side lighting which looks to be PCB mount on the bottom of the board. There is PCB mount which looks like it's located on top at each switch and is normally used in his Crystal cases. Finally there is in switch lighting.It should be pretty easy to see as there should be a visible trace going from the resistor to the LED pad.
I'd provide pictures but I don't think I'll be able to on my phone.
Post by: evera on Fri, 10 April 2015, 03:35:35
The in-switch and top PCB LEDs are in parallel - I wonder if it's ok to use both at the same time..
Post by: FoC_Tow on Tue, 14 April 2015, 20:55:51
Ah yeah, now that I take a closer look it is super obvious (silly me)
The in-switch and top PCB LEDs are in parallel - I wonder if it's ok to use both at the same time..
With the aluminium housings and the translucent Gateron switch bodies and tops can the on PCB lighting shine up through the switches for one color of backlighting and in switch LEDs be used for a second color?I was curious if both smt and regular led's can be simultaneously used as well.
if the two connectors are paralleled you could basically just use a lower ohm reistor and use both leds like this:
http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/ledcalculator/img/led-circuit.php?supply=12&resistor=240&color=red&nr=2&connection=p
I think thats a question for the pcb maker :)
According to this Website (http://www.ohmslawcalculator.com/led-resistor-calculator) the calculation works somewhat like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/oWxKQBH.jpg)
I Led is the current through (used by) the Led.
Since two LED should pass/use pretty much twice the current, you would alway divide through twice as much for 2 LEDs so the result should always be half compared to one.
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I understand you would simply use a resistor with half as much ohms for two LEDs in parallel.
Here are a few example calculation, guesstimating the supplied V and current through LED:
More
- 2/3V (2.5V) LEDs with 470 Ohm resistors as mentions on GONs website
- Guesstimating a current of 20ma/Led (which seems like a fairly realistic/common current for LEDs)
-> Results in a supplied Voltage of 12v (which seems unrealistic with usb being only 5v)
(http://i.imgur.com/1fJ4V92.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qVaoguS.jpg)
- 2/3V (2.5V) LEDs with 470 Ohm (500 Ohm) resistors as mentions on GONs website
- Guesstimating a supplied Voltage of 5v (since usb is 5v)
-> Results in a current of 5ma/LED
(http://i.imgur.com/NkIi8DC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1vfZDuj.jpg)
- Guesstimating a current of 20ma/Led (which seems like a fairly realistic/common current for LEDs)
-> Results in a supplied Voltage of 12v (which seems unrealistic with usb being only 5v)
(http://i.imgur.com/1fJ4V92.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qVaoguS.jpg)
- 2/3V (2.5V) LEDs with 470 Ohm (500 Ohm) resistors as mentions on GONs website
- Guesstimating a supplied Voltage of 5v (since usb is 5v)
-> Results in a current of 5ma/LED
(http://i.imgur.com/NkIi8DC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1vfZDuj.jpg)
Post by: mathiasn on Tue, 14 April 2015, 23:13:28
if the two connectors are paralleled you could basically just use a lower ohm reistor and use both leds like this:
http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/ledcalculator/img/led-circuit.php?supply=12&resistor=240&color=red&nr=2&connection=p
I think thats a question for the pcb maker :)
DON'T use LEDs in parallel, esp. not, if they are not identical (same make, type, color, ...).
Reason for this is, that they - most probably - have different forward voltages.
The one with the lower voltage will take most of the current (if not all) and blow.
F.i. if wou use a red LED (1.2 V) in parallel to a green one (1.6 V), the red one will take ALL the current.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:25:52
if the two connectors are paralleled you could basically just use a lower ohm reistor and use both leds like this:
http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/ledcalculator/img/led-circuit.php?supply=12&resistor=240&color=red&nr=2&connection=p
I think thats a question for the pcb maker :)
DON'T use LEDs in parallel, esp. not, if they are not identical (same make, type, color, ...).
Reason for this is, that they - most probably - have different forward voltages.
The one with the lower voltage will take most of the current (if not all) and blow.
F.i. if wou use a red LED (1.2 V) in parallel to a green one (1.6 V), the red one will take ALL the current.
Obviously only use LEDs in parallel which have the same Voltage drop and forward current.
However GONs website does mention same Voltage drop and suggests same resistors for both types of LEDs which further should imply forward current to be at least roughly the same.
So I guess my point still stand considering both LEDs types offered by GON seem almost identical in specs.
However its still a risk to do this with LEDs that aren't the exact identical type in parallel, but if the specs match up as well as they seem to do in don't think it should be much of an issue tbh.
Post by: ttzhou on Thu, 16 April 2015, 18:02:33
Thanks for any response!
Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 16 April 2015, 21:10:46
Q: When requesting the PCB soldering option, does the PCB already come stock with the ability to host in-switch LEDs? Or does that have to be added on (i.e. take the option resistors + diodes for side AND backlight LED)? I thought "backlight LED" refers only to the ON-PCB option, and that in-switch LED functionality is already standard.No the in switch led resistors do not come soldered on stock, you must request it.
Thanks for any response!
The top smd led's are run in parallel with the switch led's so if you're planning on using both top smd LED's and switch led's simultaneously make sure to do the calculations for the correct resistors value.
Also when requesting soldering work you do not need to add led's, diodes, or resistors, they are included in the fee. Well you might need to order switch led's if you don't request switch soldering since he obviously can't solder the switch led's without the switches installed.
Hope that made sense.
Edit: to add to this after re-reading your post, back light led's are the normal switch led's and NOT the top smd led's. I imagine you'd need to specifically request that if that's what you're looking for.
Post by: ttzhou on Thu, 16 April 2015, 21:46:49
Q: When requesting the PCB soldering option, does the PCB already come stock with the ability to host in-switch LEDs? Or does that have to be added on (i.e. take the option resistors + diodes for side AND backlight LED)? I thought "backlight LED" refers only to the ON-PCB option, and that in-switch LED functionality is already standard.No the in switch led resistors do not come soldered on stock, you must request it.
Thanks for any response!
The top smd led's are run in parallel with the switch led's so if you're planning on using both top smd LED's and switch led's simultaneously make sure to do the calculations for the correct resistors value.
Also when requesting soldering work you do not need to add led's, diodes, or resistors, they are included in the fee. Well you might need to order switch led's if you don't request switch soldering since he obviously can't solder the switch led's without the switches installed.
Hope that made sense.
Edit: to add to this after re-reading your post, back light led's are the normal switch led's and NOT the top smd led's. I imagine you'd need to specifically request that if that's what you're looking for.
EDIT: Emailed GON, he replied and all is well. For future readers: you DO NOT need to request extra soldering for in-switch leds. the pcb supports it natively.
More clearly, if you want side LEDs AND in-switch, you ONLY need to request side-led soldering.
the other option is for ON-PCB backlighting (as I originally suspected).
Thanks for your help, Evo!
Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 16 April 2015, 23:03:17
I didn't understand any of that but as long as you do then it's all good XDQ: When requesting the PCB soldering option, does the PCB already come stock with the ability to host in-switch LEDs? Or does that have to be added on (i.e. take the option resistors + diodes for side AND backlight LED)? I thought "backlight LED" refers only to the ON-PCB option, and that in-switch LED functionality is already standard.No the in switch led resistors do not come soldered on stock, you must request it.
Thanks for any response!
The top smd led's are run in parallel with the switch led's so if you're planning on using both top smd LED's and switch led's simultaneously make sure to do the calculations for the correct resistors value.
Also when requesting soldering work you do not need to add led's, diodes, or resistors, they are included in the fee. Well you might need to order switch led's if you don't request switch soldering since he obviously can't solder the switch led's without the switches installed.
Hope that made sense.
Edit: to add to this after re-reading your post, back light led's are the normal switch led's and NOT the top smd led's. I imagine you'd need to specifically request that if that's what you're looking for.
EDIT: Emailed GON, he replied and all is well. For future readers: you DO NOT need to request extra soldering for in-switch leds. the pcb supports it natively.
More clearly, if you want side LEDs AND in-switch, you ONLY need to request side-led soldering.
the other option is for ON-PCB backlighting (as I originally suspected).
Thanks for your help, Evo!
I just built mine myself so I never needed to ask this stuff lol
Post by: henz on Sat, 18 April 2015, 02:11:17
Post by: evera on Mon, 20 April 2015, 23:48:13
If I immediately disconnect and reconnect the keyboard to my computer when it disconnects, i still have to wait for a bit before the keyboard is recognized
--edit
desoldered switches, still the same issue. i can get the nerdy gui to save things to the keyboard if i'm fast enough
i also have the usb/wireless combo board, but haven't soldered on the battery because im a bit worried to do that with the keyboard going on and off. could that be the cause, though?
Post by: cphead on Tue, 21 April 2015, 18:48:42
Q: When requesting the PCB soldering option, does the PCB already come stock with the ability to host in-switch LEDs? Or does that have to be added on (i.e. take the option resistors + diodes for side AND backlight LED)? I thought "backlight LED" refers only to the ON-PCB option, and that in-switch LED functionality is already standard.No the in switch led resistors do not come soldered on stock, you must request it.
Thanks for any response!
The top smd led's are run in parallel with the switch led's so if you're planning on using both top smd LED's and switch led's simultaneously make sure to do the calculations for the correct resistors value.
Also when requesting soldering work you do not need to add led's, diodes, or resistors, they are included in the fee. Well you might need to order switch led's if you don't request switch soldering since he obviously can't solder the switch led's without the switches installed.
Hope that made sense.
Edit: to add to this after re-reading your post, back light led's are the normal switch led's and NOT the top smd led's. I imagine you'd need to specifically request that if that's what you're looking for.
EDIT: Emailed GON, he replied and all is well. For future readers: you DO NOT need to request extra soldering for in-switch leds. the pcb supports it natively.
More clearly, if you want side LEDs AND in-switch, you ONLY need to request side-led soldering.
the other option is for ON-PCB backlighting (as I originally suspected).
Thanks for your help, Evo!
What email did you reach him at? Been trying to reach him.
Post by: ttzhou on Tue, 21 April 2015, 20:38:20
Q: When requesting the PCB soldering option, does the PCB already come stock with the ability to host in-switch LEDs? Or does that have to be added on (i.e. take the option resistors + diodes for side AND backlight LED)? I thought "backlight LED" refers only to the ON-PCB option, and that in-switch LED functionality is already standard.No the in switch led resistors do not come soldered on stock, you must request it.
Thanks for any response!
The top smd led's are run in parallel with the switch led's so if you're planning on using both top smd LED's and switch led's simultaneously make sure to do the calculations for the correct resistors value.
Also when requesting soldering work you do not need to add led's, diodes, or resistors, they are included in the fee. Well you might need to order switch led's if you don't request switch soldering since he obviously can't solder the switch led's without the switches installed.
Hope that made sense.
Edit: to add to this after re-reading your post, back light led's are the normal switch led's and NOT the top smd led's. I imagine you'd need to specifically request that if that's what you're looking for.
EDIT: Emailed GON, he replied and all is well. For future readers: you DO NOT need to request extra soldering for in-switch leds. the pcb supports it natively.
More clearly, if you want side LEDs AND in-switch, you ONLY need to request side-led soldering.
the other option is for ON-PCB backlighting (as I originally suspected).
Thanks for your help, Evo!
What email did you reach him at? Been trying to reach him.
I reached him by using the Customer Service form and citing my order number. I am trying to contact him again though as I messed up my order and need something changed.
I was able to reach him at about 23:56 EST, which is 12:56 or so korea time, which might have been his lunch or something. Gonna keep trying.
Post by: pichu23 on Tue, 21 April 2015, 20:47:18
Post by: ttzhou on Tue, 21 April 2015, 21:07:01
^ hey bud. Don't think you should post his email publicly like that. But yeah, if you have any questions, best bet is Skype.
That email is directly accessible from the site when you register. That is the email that is given, and is the one listed on his Google+ page. But sure, cheerfully removed :) My bad.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Wed, 22 April 2015, 13:47:56
Post by: henz on Wed, 22 April 2015, 13:50:29
Post by: ttzhou on Wed, 22 April 2015, 14:00:22
I called him on Skype on Sunday at 1:38 AM my time (2:38 PM in Korea) with no answer. I tried emailing him following that, but with no response yet...
Try a *bit* earlier. I found that every time I called at 11-1 Korea time he picked up. I may have been very lucky though.
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 22 April 2015, 14:08:33
^ hey bud. Don't think you should post his email publicly like that. But yeah, if you have any questions, best bet is Skype.
That email is directly accessible from the site when you register. That is the email that is given, and is the one listed on his Google+ page. But sure, cheerfully removed :) My bad.
:3 heh, just for precautions ever since incidents... ^-^
Post by: faceyourfaces on Wed, 22 April 2015, 14:32:47
I called him on Skype on Sunday at 1:38 AM my time (2:38 PM in Korea) with no answer. I tried emailing him following that, but with no response yet...
Try a *bit* earlier. I found that every time I called at 11-1 Korea time he picked up. I may have been very lucky though.
I've had him answer at 7:20 PM Korea time before, although that was a while ago.
Post by: cphead on Fri, 24 April 2015, 21:16:11
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 24 April 2015, 21:42:45
Has anyone who ordered pre-built boards around fall of last year received their orders? I've tried getting in contact with him to no avail. It's been 7 months and he owes me an update.
There was a thread over on reddit of a guy trying to sell his not-yet-shipped custom order, which he ordered in december. the thread mentioned some kind of machining issue with the aluminum house manufacturer causing the delays, so it's likely that not many have received their's yet either from that timeframe.
Try using the built in contact form on the website and quote your order number and give it an urgent tagline. Try sending the email around 11 PM EST (this is when I found he always replied).
If that doesn't work, just keep trying Skype, maybe even try waking up around 7am EST.
It is a big hassle, and I know you must be frustrated, and it probably doesn't mean much coming from me. I'm sure you will reach him if you keep trying. Might take quite a few calls though...
Post by: faceyourfaces on Fri, 24 April 2015, 21:48:07
Has anyone who ordered pre-built boards around fall of last year received their orders? I've tried getting in contact with him to no avail. It's been 7 months and he owes me an update.
I'm waiting on a board that I ordered on October 25th of last year. I'm less than a day away from hitting the 6 month mark. I have not been able to get in contact with him since March 5.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 25 April 2015, 02:30:08
Has anyone who ordered pre-built boards around fall of last year received their orders? I've tried getting in contact with him to no avail. It's been 7 months and he owes me an update.
Friend him on skype and call during the day in korea. I always get a reply a day or two after trying to contact him.
Post by: yobinad on Sat, 25 April 2015, 09:21:49
Today he told me that the order is packed and has 95% probability of being sent on monday or tuesday.
My advice is to call him on skype or to his phone.
Post by: MarkRobbo on Sat, 25 April 2015, 11:29:39
Is this normal?
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 25 April 2015, 13:13:15
My order has been on 'Awaiting bank wire payment' for a few days. Sent paypal gift payment at time of order with the order reference.
Is this normal?
I think it depends on your bank, mine transferred the money within a day.
Post by: koalapear on Mon, 27 April 2015, 20:13:51
Post by: yobinad on Tue, 28 April 2015, 04:57:04
Post by: yobinad on Thu, 30 April 2015, 05:33:22
GON sends invoice inside the package? The package is identified with his website logo?
I ask this because of customs ;D
Post by: Lpwl on Thu, 30 April 2015, 05:37:02
I don't want to bother GON with this questions so i ask here :)
GON sends invoice inside the package? The package is identified with his website logo?
I ask this because of customs ;D
My package was sent as "gift" with an indicated value under 10$.
No logo / no invoice.
EDIT : Therefore, I had no trouble with customs.
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 30 April 2015, 08:02:06
I haven't binded the layer locking fonction at all. But sometimes the Fn2 layer locks (I have yet to found what combination of keys does it).
And since my Esc is power off in Fn2 it can be quite annoying u_u
Nerd60 if that matter.
Post by: yobinad on Thu, 30 April 2015, 08:07:02
I don't want to bother GON with this questions so i ask here :)
GON sends invoice inside the package? The package is identified with his website logo?
I ask this because of customs ;D
My package was sent as "gift" with an indicated value under 10$.
No logo / no invoice.
EDIT : Therefore, I had no trouble with customs.
Thanks :thumb:
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 01 May 2015, 09:39:35
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 01 May 2015, 11:03:14
Has anyone that has ordered a fully assembled board either in dec 2014 or after received there board yet . I'm just trying to gauge how backed up he is. ?
I ordered all the parts for an HHKB in early Feb and as far as I know nothing has been made yet.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 01 May 2015, 11:16:47
I guess there was an issue with one of his suppliers backing things up that required aluminum (so I heard) but I guess that has been rectified. I've been told a couple weeks so I'm not going to get my hopes up because I know he is way backed up and is not happy with the situation. My stance is hope for the best and expect the worst. From what I have heard people who have just ordered kits have been getting there orders much sooner than people who ordered boards with assembly . Either way folks good luck and I hope I get to see pics of yours soon Joey :thumb:Has anyone that has ordered a fully assembled board either in dec 2014 or after received there board yet . I'm just trying to gauge how backed up he is. ?
I ordered all the parts for an HHKB in early Feb and as far as I know nothing has been made yet.
Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 01 May 2015, 20:26:27
Has anyone that has ordered a fully assembled board either in dec 2014 or after received there board yet . I'm just trying to gauge how backed up he is. ?
I believe those who was part of his DTA GB is receiving/received theirs already, although I believe those are like DIY kits.
I received mine like a week or two ago and order was made in December iinm.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:03:56
was yours a complete? Pichu23Has anyone that has ordered a fully assembled board either in dec 2014 or after received there board yet . I'm just trying to gauge how backed up he is. ?
I believe those who was part of his DTA GB is receiving/received theirs already, although I believe those are like DIY kits.
I received mine like a week or two ago and order was made in December iinm.
Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 01 May 2015, 21:20:00
was yours a complete? Pichu23Has anyone that has ordered a fully assembled board either in dec 2014 or after received there board yet . I'm just trying to gauge how backed up he is. ?
I believe those who was part of his DTA GB is receiving/received theirs already, although I believe those are like DIY kits.
I received mine like a week or two ago and order was made in December iinm.
Nope, I got mine as a kit so I'll do the soldering on my own. ;D
Post by: DanielT on Sun, 03 May 2015, 05:26:34
Any of you had issues with a layer locking in?I think by default Fn2 is a double tap locking layer so you have to uncheck it in the NerDy GUI, to deactivate it you just have to double tap it again.
I haven't binded the layer locking fonction at all. But sometimes the Fn2 layer locks (I have yet to found what combination of keys does it).
And since my Esc is power off in Fn2 it can be quite annoying u_u
Nerd60 if that matter.
When I have some time I will double check this on one of my boards, need a windows for that :(
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 03 May 2015, 10:58:55
Could not find it on the Nerdy Gui, where should I look?Any of you had issues with a layer locking in?I think by default Fn2 is a double tap locking layer so you have to uncheck it in the NerDy GUI, to deactivate it you just have to double tap it again.
I haven't binded the layer locking fonction at all. But sometimes the Fn2 layer locks (I have yet to found what combination of keys does it).
And since my Esc is power off in Fn2 it can be quite annoying u_u
Nerd60 if that matter.
When I have some time I will double check this on one of my boards, need a windows for that :(
Post by: ceflame on Sun, 03 May 2015, 16:16:37
Could not find it on the Nerdy Gui, where should I look?Any of you had issues with a layer locking in?I think by default Fn2 is a double tap locking layer so you have to uncheck it in the NerDy GUI, to deactivate it you just have to double tap it again.
I haven't binded the layer locking fonction at all. But sometimes the Fn2 layer locks (I have yet to found what combination of keys does it).
And since my Esc is power off in Fn2 it can be quite annoying u_u
Nerd60 if that matter.
When I have some time I will double check this on one of my boards, need a windows for that :(
You should be using Fn1 NoLock or Fn2 NoLock if you don't want it to lock into the layer.
Double tapping Fn1 or Fn2 will lock into the layer.
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 03 May 2015, 16:21:15
oh thanks for the precision.Could not find it on the Nerdy Gui, where should I look?Any of you had issues with a layer locking in?I think by default Fn2 is a double tap locking layer so you have to uncheck it in the NerDy GUI, to deactivate it you just have to double tap it again.
I haven't binded the layer locking fonction at all. But sometimes the Fn2 layer locks (I have yet to found what combination of keys does it).
And since my Esc is power off in Fn2 it can be quite annoying u_u
Nerd60 if that matter.
When I have some time I will double check this on one of my boards, need a windows for that :(
You should be using Fn1 NoLock or Fn2 NoLock if you don't want it to lock into the layer.
Double tapping Fn1 or Fn2 will lock into the layer.
Post by: madhias on Mon, 04 May 2015, 13:03:09
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 04 May 2015, 13:08:59
Are the long shipping times only for pre-built keybaords, or also for DIY kits? I would like to order a MobiK with Bluetooth DIY kit :)
I think shipping is not long, it's the preparation. AFAIK DIY kits are much faster especially if he has the stuff on hand already. Adding any assembly option probably at least doubles wait time. E.g. I ordered a kit Apr. 17, but requested SMD soldering and switch tuning and status has not budged beyond payment received.
Post by: SixtyLife on Mon, 04 May 2015, 13:27:31
Are the long shipping times only for pre-built keybaords, or also for DIY kits? I would like to order a MobiK with Bluetooth DIY kit :)
I think shipping is not long, it's the preparation. AFAIK DIY kits are much faster especially if he has the stuff on hand already. Adding any assembly option probably at least doubles wait time. E.g. I ordered a kit Apr. 17, but requested SMD soldering and switch tuning and status has not budged beyond payment received.
In the same boat. Ordered a 60% kit on 4/16 but added lubed/stickered switches. Stuck on Payment Received.
Post by: rand on Mon, 04 May 2015, 13:38:16
I got a shipping notification today for my order placed on 03/07/15 which consists of parts for a Nerd 60 including a universal 60% plate. So GON is still alive and shipping out orders ;D
Sad... I ordered a Nerd 60 Crystal kit in February and I haven't gotten my shipping notification yet. Been sending an email and tried adding him on Skype around once a month. Still no contact.
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 04 May 2015, 13:50:39
I got a shipping notification today for my order placed on 03/07/15 which consists of parts for a Nerd 60 including a universal 60% plate. So GON is still alive and shipping out orders ;D
Sad... I ordered a Nerd 60 Crystal kit in February and I haven't gotten my shipping notification yet. Been sending an email and tried adding him on Skype around once a month. Still no contact.
The word on the grapevine is he is doing CTRL ALT GH60 GB stuff, also manufacturer delays means he's got a big backlog. He's also one guy.
As for the contact woes, there are a lot of good suggestions in this thread for reaching him. Timing and persistence is key.
Post by: rand on Mon, 04 May 2015, 14:05:24
Yeah. I don't mind waiting long at all since I understand he's only one guy. At this point if he said it'd be an extra 2 or 3 months I wouldn't mind as long as I know what the timeline is.I got a shipping notification today for my order placed on 03/07/15 which consists of parts for a Nerd 60 including a universal 60% plate. So GON is still alive and shipping out orders ;D
Sad... I ordered a Nerd 60 Crystal kit in February and I haven't gotten my shipping notification yet. Been sending an email and tried adding him on Skype around once a month. Still no contact.
The word on the grapevine is he is doing CTRL ALT GH60 GB stuff, also manufacturer delays means he's got a big backlog. He's also one guy.
As for the contact woes, there are a lot of good suggestions in this thread for reaching him. Timing and persistence is key.
Post by: mattycee on Mon, 04 May 2015, 16:17:43
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 04 May 2015, 16:53:49
current timeline for orders are 6-8 months.
as in fully assembled, or DIY kits as well? :eek:
Post by: faceyourfaces on Mon, 04 May 2015, 16:55:26
current timeline for orders are 6-8 months.
I can only hope that I'll get my board by the time I hit the 8 month mark. I don't think contacting him every two months is that unreasonable, although I haven't been able to regardless. How often do people get responses using the contact form on his website?
Post by: ceflame on Tue, 05 May 2015, 02:16:54
current timeline for orders are 6-8 months.
I can only hope that I'll get my board by the time I hit the 8 month mark. I don't think contacting him every two months is that unreasonable, although I haven't been able to regardless. How often do people get responses using the contact form on his website?
It's pretty hit or miss using his contact form or leaving him messages.
If you want a sure way of contacting him, call him on Skype.
Post by: eosph on Wed, 06 May 2015, 05:46:17
Post by: ttzhou on Wed, 06 May 2015, 06:00:51
I've been unable to contact Gon on Skype or the site, is everything ok?When do you call?
Post by: eosph on Wed, 06 May 2015, 06:04:41
I've been unable to contact Gon on Skype or the site, is everything ok?When do you call?
He's not accepted my contact request on skype yet.
Post by: awhitedev on Wed, 06 May 2015, 12:59:15
I'm all for waiting 6-12 months for a quality products... but it seems like spending $300-$500 for goods and not hearing from him at all is a little scary :eek:
Post by: koalapear on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:39:19
GON's keyboards are definitely great... but is there any risk in buying from him?I just received my order a couple of days ago. Granted it was only parts but he's definitely not a scammer, just really overwhelmed with orders right now.
I'm all for waiting 6-12 months for a quality products... but it seems like spending $300-$500 for goods and not hearing from him at all is a little scary :eek:
Post by: ttzhou on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:45:41
GON's keyboards are definitely great... but is there any risk in buying from him?I just received my order a couple of days ago. Granted it was only parts but he's definitely not a scammer, just really overwhelmed with orders right now.
I'm all for waiting 6-12 months for a quality products... but it seems like spending $300-$500 for goods and not hearing from him at all is a little scary :eek:
How long ago did you place the order?
Post by: koalapear on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:47:34
I placed the order on March 7th and received a shipping notification a little over a week ago.GON's keyboards are definitely great... but is there any risk in buying from him?I just received my order a couple of days ago. Granted it was only parts but he's definitely not a scammer, just really overwhelmed with orders right now.
I'm all for waiting 6-12 months for a quality products... but it seems like spending $300-$500 for goods and not hearing from him at all is a little scary :eek:
How long ago did you place the order?
Post by: Hellcatz on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:51:18
Post by: ttzhou on Wed, 06 May 2015, 13:56:07
I placed the order on March 7th and received a shipping notification a little over a week ago.GON's keyboards are definitely great... but is there any risk in buying from him?I just received my order a couple of days ago. Granted it was only parts but he's definitely not a scammer, just really overwhelmed with orders right now.
I'm all for waiting 6-12 months for a quality products... but it seems like spending $300-$500 for goods and not hearing from him at all is a little scary :eek:
How long ago did you place the order?
thanks for reply :) were they all stock parts or did you request some tuning/soldering along with it?
Post by: koalapear on Wed, 06 May 2015, 14:08:12
The only part that was custom was a sky blue full glare universal 60% plate. The rest was just parts to put together a NerD 60 PCB.I placed the order on March 7th and received a shipping notification a little over a week ago.GON's keyboards are definitely great... but is there any risk in buying from him?I just received my order a couple of days ago. Granted it was only parts but he's definitely not a scammer, just really overwhelmed with orders right now.
I'm all for waiting 6-12 months for a quality products... but it seems like spending $300-$500 for goods and not hearing from him at all is a little scary :eek:
How long ago did you place the order?
thanks for reply :) were they all stock parts or did you request some tuning/soldering along with it?
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 14:08:37
Ordered my 2014 special edition nerd tkl at December It is now may and got an update from him at April sayingsaying he will ship soon it has been a month since that last update
Did you order a case with it?
So far me and evo_spec received ours but both of us ordered the acrylic case.
i think yobinad just received his with the crystal case.
Post by: Hellcatz on Wed, 06 May 2015, 14:19:27
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 14:40:21
Ordered it with the nerd crystal, switch stickers, stabs, and switches, smd leds
Did you request for assembly as well? Cause that might be the reason.
Post by: Hellcatz on Wed, 06 May 2015, 14:46:54
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:00:38
The 2014 special comes with resisters and smd pre soldered. But several peeps already got theirs and to answer your question, no I did not request it to be assembled.
Ah alright, hope you'll receive yours soon! :)
Post by: evera on Wed, 06 May 2015, 15:52:28
does anyone know if its possible to get more fn layers?
Post by: eosph on Thu, 07 May 2015, 05:21:21
I've also ordered from GON before and got the stuff so I know he's legit.
Post by: limster on Thu, 07 May 2015, 07:10:55
fwiw just got notification that my order is being prepared.
My order (from late Feb) as well.
Post by: henz on Thu, 07 May 2015, 07:43:00
Gotta chill dudes. Its worth it. (writing on my gon =))
Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:12:49
You know, I really get what you guys are worried about especially with guys like kin25 keeping his thread updated but GON isn't kin25 but GON also goes back further with this community and AFAIK has not failed to deliver an order.
I get that you have 100's of dollars on your order but if you're part of this community you should have had an idea about all of this before hand yet you still order and just got all impatient anyways.
Just relax people, he not a scammer, you'll get your order eventually.
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:21:58
This thread is getting kinda out of hand because I've seen several people scared to order from GON which is/will hurt his business.
You know, I really get what you guys are worried about especially with guys like kin25 keeping his thread updated but GON isn't kin25 but GON also goes back further with this community and AFAIK has not failed to deliver an order.
I get that you have 100's of dollars on your order but if you're part of this community you should have had an idea about all of this before hand yet you still order and just got all impatient anyways.
Just relax people, he not a scammer, you'll get your order eventually.
I don't fear that he'll fail to deliver an order, but I want to be prepared and know what to expect when ordering from him. A little update post would be nice though. I think this would save him from a lot of PMs, Skype messages, emails, etc. from customers who don't know what's going on.
Post by: ttzhou on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:22:51
This thread is getting kinda out of hand because I've seen several people scared to order from GON which is/will hurt his business.
You know, I really get what you guys are worried about especially with guys like kin25 keeping his thread updated but GON isn't kin25 but GON also goes back further with this community and AFAIK has not failed to deliver an order.
I get that you have 100's of dollars on your order but if you're part of this community you should have had an idea about all of this before hand yet you still order and just got all impatient anyways.
Just relax people, he not a scammer, you'll get your order eventually.
not worried at all on my end, i'm just an impatient bastard and like the therapeutic aspect of knowing others share my pain. :D it also helps to get a rough timeline of when i can expect things.
GON is one of the only guys I'd trust paying by gift without question and I've talked to him multiple times on Skype. super cool guy.
Post by: DanielT on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:31:31
What everybody should understand is that if you are in hurry this is not the place to place an order, this is the place where you order your perfect keyboard, something that, after you played with tons of switches and boards, will be you end game keyboard.
The fact that GON has a website is a little bit confusing because people tend to think it's like Amazon, but it's not like that.
If you are impatient and concerned, this is something natural when you trust someone with $$$ then you go the extra mile and contact him on Skype or give him a phone call. Posting here will do no good, because he is busy working on your boards :cool:
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 07 May 2015, 09:36:44
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 07 May 2015, 11:28:07
Post by: Hellcatz on Thu, 07 May 2015, 12:02:03
just got a shipping notice from GON for an order parts placed on april 16 (universal plate, tuned switches, stabs, nerd60 pcb). it seems he has more time now that the ctrlalt order's done!That's bull**** seem, ordered mine in December and just only just recent had thethe order status changed to order processing
Post by: SixtyLife on Thu, 07 May 2015, 13:54:56
just got a shipping notice from GON for an order parts placed on april 16 (universal plate, tuned switches, stabs, nerd60 pcb). it seems he has more time now that the ctrlalt order's done!That's bull**** seem, ordered mine in December and just only just recent had thethe order status changed to order processing
sorry to hear man. was it just parts or an assembled keyboard?
Post by: faceyourfaces on Thu, 07 May 2015, 15:16:04
just got a shipping notice from GON for an order parts placed on april 16 (universal plate, tuned switches, stabs, nerd60 pcb). it seems he has more time now that the ctrlalt order's done!That's bull**** seem, ordered mine in December and just only just recent had thethe order status changed to order processing
Is "Order processing" what comes after "Payment accepted?"
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 07 May 2015, 17:22:10
just got a shipping notice from GON for an order parts placed on april 16 (universal plate, tuned switches, stabs, nerd60 pcb). it seems he has more time now that the ctrlalt order's done!That's bull**** seem, ordered mine in December and just only just recent had thethe order status changed to order processing
Is "Order processing" what comes after "Payment accepted?"
It does, my order just made the jump today.
Also Hellcatz, does your order include assembly? Assembled orders take longer.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Thu, 07 May 2015, 17:59:07
just got a shipping notice from GON for an order parts placed on april 16 (universal plate, tuned switches, stabs, nerd60 pcb). it seems he has more time now that the ctrlalt order's done!That's bull**** seem, ordered mine in December and just only just recent had thethe order status changed to order processing
Is "Order processing" what comes after "Payment accepted?"
It does, my order just made the jump today.
Also Hellcatz, does your order include assembly? Assembled orders take longer.
He did say this earlier:
The 2014 special comes with resisters and smd pre soldered. But several peeps already got theirs and to answer your question, no I did not request it to be assembled.
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 09 May 2015, 07:05:44
Hi!
Could you please tell me what would be the delay before shipping for a Nerd NS 60 case at the moment?
Thanks.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Sat, 09 May 2015, 07:31:37
It's hard to say ... You would have to talk to Gon himself and even then it might be just a very rough estimate!
Hi!
Could you please tell me what would be the delay before shipping for a Nerd NS 60 case at the moment?
Thanks.
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 09 May 2015, 07:48:06
It's hard to say ... You would have to talk to Gon himself and even then it might be just a very rough estimate!
Hi!
Could you please tell me what would be the delay before shipping for a Nerd NS 60 case at the moment?
Thanks.
Does the delay come from him being very busy for his manual work or is it due to the factory that makes the cases?
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 11 May 2015, 08:38:02
I think I'm going to go back to unlubed stock clears. It'll save me 50 bucks and I can always lube them myself I change my mind. Just wondering if anyone has successfully done this before, and if GON has given a refund for the difference?
Post by: yobinad on Mon, 11 May 2015, 09:02:02
I've done it with my order
edit: i've done the opposite of what you want
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 11 May 2015, 09:05:17
Call him on Skype or phone.
I've done it with my order
edit: i've done the opposite of what you want
Thanks. Just wanted to check before bothering him. I've Skype called him enough times lol.
Post by: Azumia on Fri, 15 May 2015, 02:29:22
Already tried contacting GON; Still impossible to get ahold of, so I'm hoping someone here can help. If there's still a huge delay, I'd like to know so I can just wait until he's not swamped or something.
Also, can anyone tell me the resister value I would need for these LEDs (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161001069376?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)? I'd be using those for both the side LEDs and the switch LEDs.
Oh and last question: Does anyone happen to have a photo of that acrylic case (doesn't have to be 60%, I just want to get an idea) with every layer as clear? I've looked around and can't find anything, but it would be nice to get more of an idea what I'd be getting.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Fri, 15 May 2015, 04:14:03
Also, can anyone tell me the resister value I would need for these LEDs (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161001069376?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)? I'd be using those for both the side LEDs and the switch LEDs.So since it'll be for front in switch it seems it's either 2v or 3v and for purple it'll be 3v. http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/electric-parts/15-resistorssmd-100-pcs.html
Oh and last question: Does anyone happen to have a photo of that acrylic case (doesn't have to be 60%, I just want to get an idea) with every layer as clear? I've looked around and can't find anything, but it would be nice to get more of an idea what I'd be getting.
It seems that the side led's are more picky about resistors.
I haven't seen any pictures of GON's acrylic case in clear but look up winkeyless boards like the B.face or something since there's lots of those in clear and that'll give you an idea of how it looks. I personally don't like it.
Post by: ceflame on Fri, 15 May 2015, 04:37:18
Here's an example (minh0's board): http://imgur.com/a/xOBLm (http://imgur.com/a/xOBLm)
Top and bottom layers are clear, while the plate is white.
Post by: Azumia on Fri, 15 May 2015, 10:54:07
So since it'll be for front in switch it seems it's either 2v or 3v and for purple it'll be 3v. http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/electric-parts/15-resistorssmd-100-pcs.html
It seems that the side led's are more picky about resistors.
I haven't seen any pictures of GON's acrylic case in clear but look up winkeyless boards like the B.face or something since there's lots of those in clear and that'll give you an idea of how it looks. I personally don't like it.
Thanks for the help. :3 Okay so, if purple is 3v, the value of the resisters for the side LEDs would be 133, right? And then 470 for the switch LEDs? Am I reading that correctly?
Pretty sure it's just clear (transparent) acrylic, similar to the ergodox acrylic layers.
Here's an example (minh0's board): http://imgur.com/a/xOBLm (http://imgur.com/a/xOBLm)
Top and bottom layers are clear, while the plate is white.
Thanks for that link; That keyboard looks amazing. I really like the clear layers. Although looking at that, I'm really considering getting a white plate as well instead of every layer being clear, but I can't decide. Maybe semi-clear. This is a hard decision.
Now hopefully someone can answer my question about the wait time for unassembled parts. I looked back through the last few pages of the thread, and it seems like some people got things quickly and others have been waiting a long time.
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:21:23
So since it'll be for front in switch it seems it's either 2v or 3v and for purple it'll be 3v. http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/electric-parts/15-resistorssmd-100-pcs.html
It seems that the side led's are more picky about resistors.
I haven't seen any pictures of GON's acrylic case in clear but look up winkeyless boards like the B.face or something since there's lots of those in clear and that'll give you an idea of how it looks. I personally don't like it.
Thanks for the help. :3 Okay so, if purple is 3v, the value of the resisters for the side LEDs would be 133, right? And then 470 for the switch LEDs? Am I reading that correctly?Pretty sure it's just clear (transparent) acrylic, similar to the ergodox acrylic layers.
Here's an example (minh0's board): http://imgur.com/a/xOBLm (http://imgur.com/a/xOBLm)
Top and bottom layers are clear, while the plate is white.
Thanks for that link; That keyboard looks amazing. I really like the clear layers. Although looking at that, I'm really considering getting a white plate as well instead of every layer being clear, but I can't decide. Maybe semi-clear. This is a hard decision.
Now hopefully someone can answer my question about the wait time for unassembled parts. I looked back through the last few pages of the thread, and it seems like some people got things quickly and others have been waiting a long time.
Have you found the answer regarding the wait time for unassembled parts? I'm really interested as well. ^^
Post by: Sed8op8 on Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:32:49
my friend spoke to him the other night and he said wait times should be reduced by quite a bit now (he was asking him about assembled boards but i assume this goes for all/most orders)as he said he was almost caught up but I assume Ngt that he would be unable to give you anything other than a rough estimate unless he had all the parts you need on hand and even then you would have to speak to gon.So since it'll be for front in switch it seems it's either 2v or 3v and for purple it'll be 3v. http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/electric-parts/15-resistorssmd-100-pcs.html
It seems that the side led's are more picky about resistors.
I haven't seen any pictures of GON's acrylic case in clear but look up winkeyless boards like the B.face or something since there's lots of those in clear and that'll give you an idea of how it looks. I personally don't like it.
Thanks for the help. :3 Okay so, if purple is 3v, the value of the resisters for the side LEDs would be 133, right? And then 470 for the switch LEDs? Am I reading that correctly?Pretty sure it's just clear (transparent) acrylic, similar to the ergodox acrylic layers.
Here's an example (minh0's board): http://imgur.com/a/xOBLm (http://imgur.com/a/xOBLm)
Top and bottom layers are clear, while the plate is white.
Thanks for that link; That keyboard looks amazing. I really like the clear layers. Although looking at that, I'm really considering getting a white plate as well instead of every layer being clear, but I can't decide. Maybe semi-clear. This is a hard decision.
Now hopefully someone can answer my question about the wait time for unassembled parts. I looked back through the last few pages of the thread, and it seems like some people got things quickly and others have been waiting a long time.
Have you found the answer regarding the wait time for unassembled parts? I'm really interested as well. ^^
From my experience though its really a roll of the dice I hope this helps and does not frustrate :eek: to get to the crux of the matter I think the wait time should be generally reduced over all but as always YMMV have you tried to contact him through Skype? Your in France and I do not know the time difference but for US ET it seems 11:30pm-12 is a good time to try.
Post by: ttzhou on Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:34:17
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:52:18
my friend spoke to him the other night and he said wait times should be reduced by quite a bit now (he was asking him about assembled boards but i assume this goes for all/most orders)as he said he was almost caught up but I assume Ngt that he would be unable to give you anything other than a rough estimate unless he had all the parts you need on hand and even then you would have to speak to gon.So since it'll be for front in switch it seems it's either 2v or 3v and for purple it'll be 3v. http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/electric-parts/15-resistorssmd-100-pcs.html (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/electric-parts/15-resistorssmd-100-pcs.html)
It seems that the side led's are more picky about resistors.
I haven't seen any pictures of GON's acrylic case in clear but look up winkeyless boards like the B.face or something since there's lots of those in clear and that'll give you an idea of how it looks. I personally don't like it.
Thanks for the help. :3 Okay so, if purple is 3v, the value of the resisters for the side LEDs would be 133, right? And then 470 for the switch LEDs? Am I reading that correctly?Pretty sure it's just clear (transparent) acrylic, similar to the ergodox acrylic layers.
Here's an example (minh0's board): http://imgur.com/a/xOBLm (http://imgur.com/a/xOBLm)
Top and bottom layers are clear, while the plate is white.
Thanks for that link; That keyboard looks amazing. I really like the clear layers. Although looking at that, I'm really considering getting a white plate as well instead of every layer being clear, but I can't decide. Maybe semi-clear. This is a hard decision.
Now hopefully someone can answer my question about the wait time for unassembled parts. I looked back through the last few pages of the thread, and it seems like some people got things quickly and others have been waiting a long time.
Have you found the answer regarding the wait time for unassembled parts? I'm really interested as well. ^^
From my experience though its really a roll of the dice I hope this helps and does not frustrate :o to get to the crux of the matter I think the wait time should be generally reduced over all but as always YMMV have you tried to contact him through Skype? Your in France and I do not know the time difference but for US ET it seems 11:30pm-12 is a good time to try.
Thanks for the info. I think I'll just have to jump and take the risk. I added him on skype and sent him a message but it has not accepted me yet. I guess he's just too busy atm.
Called GON the other day about my order, he is waiting on the acrylic case manufacturer. My guess is his delays are again due to manufacturer. My order is unassembled, since I ordered DTA PCB.
Ok, I hope he has some cases in stock as it would be for ordering a Nerd NS 60 (HHKB or normal, don't know yet) in grey hard anodized.
Post by: the pokemon kid on Tue, 19 May 2015, 15:57:24
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 19 May 2015, 15:58:49
I bought the GON60 PCB about two weeks ago now, payment was taken and it was changed to "Preperation in Progess" I haven't heard anything since (Dropped him two emails). Does anyone know anything? Or the best way of contacting him? Skype?
It seems that's the way to go! But I read that he might have trouble with his manufacturer. Don't quote me on that, I'm not sure the info is right or not.
Post by: the pokemon kid on Tue, 19 May 2015, 16:04:32
I bought the GON60 PCB about two weeks ago now, payment was taken and it was changed to "Preperation in Progess" I haven't heard anything since (Dropped him two emails). Does anyone know anything? Or the best way of contacting him? Skype?
It seems that's the way to go! But I read that he might have trouble with his manufacturer. Don't quote me on that, I'm not sure the info is right or not.
Just dropped him a message on Skype! Hopefully he gets back to me soon! Cant wait to finish building this 60% board!
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 19 May 2015, 16:32:32
I bought the GON60 PCB about two weeks ago now, payment wa taken and it was changed to "Preperation in Progess" I haven't heard anything since (Dropped him two emails). Does anyone know anything? Or the best way of contacting him? Skype?
It seems that's the way to go! But I read that he might have trouble with his manufacturer. Don't quote me on that, I'm not sure the info is right or not.
Just dropped him a message on Skype! Hopefully he gets back to me soon! Cant wait to finish building this 60% board!
I'll receive my PCB next week but I don't have a case to put it in yet ... Hope I could get a Nerd NS 60 housing without waiting months. :)
Post by: Hiroyuki on Wed, 20 May 2015, 02:46:50
I bought the GON60 PCB about two weeks ago now, payment was taken and it was changed to "Preperation in Progess" I haven't heard anything since (Dropped him two emails). Does anyone know anything? Or the best way of contacting him? Skype?
It seems that's the way to go! But I read that he might have trouble with his manufacturer. Don't quote me on that, I'm not sure the info is right or not.
Just dropped him a message on Skype! Hopefully he gets back to me soon! Cant wait to finish building this 60% board!
From what I've heard he doesn't reply to skype messages but answers calls on skype. My order is also at the "preparation in progress" stage... no idea how long that's gonna take though, last time i was in touch with him he expected to ship it out right around easter... but apparently it still hasn't been shipped
Post by: the pokemon kid on Wed, 20 May 2015, 19:24:29
I bought the GON60 PCB about two weeks ago now, payment was taken and it was changed to "Preperation in Progess" I haven't heard anything since (Dropped him two emails). Does anyone know anything? Or the best way of contacting him? Skype?
It seems that's the way to go! But I read that he might have trouble with his manufacturer. Don't quote me on that, I'm not sure the info is right or not.
Just dropped him a message on Skype! Hopefully he gets back to me soon! Cant wait to finish building this 60% board!
From what I've heard he doesn't reply to skype messages but answers calls on skype. My order is also at the "preparation in progress" stage... no idea how long that's gonna take though, last time i was in touch with him he expected to ship it out right around easter... but apparently it still hasn't been shipped
Just talked to GON on skype. The best way of contacting him is by calling his Skype!
We had a quick chat and everything is resolved, he is posting it out later this week or next week as he has got a lot of orders on his plate. He also said that my order would be going out with many other orders!
He had a pre soldered version of the board there, so I upgraded to this instead of having to solder it all together myself..!
Post by: lolpes on Thu, 21 May 2015, 12:59:44
Post by: ttzhou on Thu, 21 May 2015, 13:17:10
hey, i was at the shop trying to buy a stab wire for my spacebar, and noticed the 23.20 shipping price to Portugal O.o is shipping really that expensive for a stab wire? :/
I think he uses express mail with tracking (EMS) for everything so it likely has a high minimum cost. try contacting him to see if he can ship using non-tracked methods.
or just get a stab wire from another source?
Post by: lolpes on Thu, 21 May 2015, 13:19:40
hey, i was at the shop trying to buy a stab wire for my spacebar, and noticed the 23.20 shipping price to Portugal O.o is shipping really that expensive for a stab wire? :/
I think he uses express mail with tracking (EMS) for everything so it likely has a high minimum cost. try contacting him to see if he can ship using non-tracked methods.
or just get a stab wire from another source?
other sources? the shipping costs kills it to me, the cheapest i can get is from imsto and i have to buy a full set for 10$+10$ shipping.
Post by: ttzhou on Thu, 21 May 2015, 13:34:05
hey, i was at the shop trying to buy a stab wire for my spacebar, and noticed the 23.20 shipping price to Portugal O.o is shipping really that expensive for a stab wire? :/
I think he uses express mail with tracking (EMS) for everything so it likely has a high minimum cost. try contacting him to see if he can ship using non-tracked methods.
or just get a stab wire from another source?
other sources? the shipping costs kills it to me, the cheapest i can get is from imsto and i have to buy a full set for 10$+10$ shipping.
this is the unfortunate circumstance of not living in the states. i'm in canada and i usually have to pay at least 8 dollars shipping even for a single keycap from Elitekeyboards. i feel your pain. i don't know any other sources outside of imsto/GON though. maybe find a cheap board and harvest it from there?
Post by: lolpes on Thu, 21 May 2015, 13:36:32
Post by: ttzhou on Thu, 21 May 2015, 13:46:25
I have 2 boards, but the stab does not fit, because of the problem I described before, I'll try making one, but I think it's unlikely I'll succeed :/ or ill have to settle for paying 20$ for it witch I really don't want
i 100% feel your pain, my friend. we should start a "non-us shipping rate" support group.
the way i justify it is by not going out to eat for two weeks or so. it balances out that way.
Post by: Ngt on Thu, 21 May 2015, 17:05:18
I have 2 boards, but the stab does not fit, because of the problem I described before, I'll try making one, but I think it's unlikely I'll succeed :/ or ill have to settle for paying 20$ for it witch I really don't want
See if you don't need stuff like lube, led etc. so you can group the order and don't pay only the shipping fee for the stab.
Post by: limster on Thu, 21 May 2015, 20:30:23
I saw the GUI video, and I only saw 'breathing' and brightness in the drop down. What are the other modes?
Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 21 May 2015, 21:04:35
I'm thinking about adding switch LEDs to my order, can anyone tell me what the effect options are for the switch lights?Breathing, on/off at any brightness, get brighter as you continue to type and dims when you stop, gets dimmer/off as you type and gets brighter when you stop, have it assigned to a lock status like cap, scroll, and num lock.
I saw the GUI video, and I only saw 'breathing' and brightness in the drop down. What are the other modes?
Post by: limster on Thu, 21 May 2015, 21:26:10
I'm thinking about adding switch LEDs to my order, can anyone tell me what the effect options are for the switch lights?Breathing, on/off at any brightness, get brighter as you continue to type and dims when you stop, gets dimmer/off as you type and gets brighter when you stop, have it assigned to a lock status like cap, scroll, and num lock.
I saw the GUI video, and I only saw 'breathing' and brightness in the drop down. What are the other modes?
Sounds pretty cool. Thanks Evo!
Post by: ZippCen on Fri, 22 May 2015, 06:54:06
I'm looking to get a keyboard from Gon. My current board is stock cherry mx browns they feel a little too light for me.
I'm stuck trying to decide between Browns and Clears and I'm totally lost on which springs to pick.
Any advice would be great.
Thanks
- ZippCen
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 22 May 2015, 08:09:24
I'm looking for a little advice.if you like cherry browns but want something a bit heavier go for 62g ergo clears. You could go 58g but I have heard they can sometimes get caught on the increased bump of the clears. I like 62,65 and 67g clears but your mileage may vary . I believe gon offers a number of spring options in the ergo clear range!
I'm looking to get a keyboard from Gon. My current board is stock cherry mx browns they feel a little too light for me.
I'm stuck trying to decide between Browns and Clears and I'm totally lost on which springs to pick.
Any advice would be great.
Thanks
- ZippCen
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 22 May 2015, 08:15:32
I'm looking for a little advice.
I'm looking to get a keyboard from Gon. My current board is stock cherry mx browns they feel a little too light for me.
I'm stuck trying to decide between Browns and Clears and I'm totally lost on which springs to pick.
Any advice would be great.
Thanks
- ZippCen
like Sed8op8 said, gon has ergo clear option. I wish he offered the heavier end of the ergo spectrum (62g, 65g, 67g) rather than (55g, 58g, 62g) though. 62g is basically a bit heavier than brown but with the good tactile bump.
stock clears are also quite nice, I use them on my work board and portable board.
Post by: ZippCen on Fri, 22 May 2015, 12:03:46
If I got stronger springs on the browns (55g are stock?) would this have the effect of reducing bottoming out but leave the same tactile bump I'm used to?
Thanks
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 22 May 2015, 12:19:04
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 22 May 2015, 14:04:00
I'm sure it would help a little bit but I'm thinking the increased force of the spring might reduce the feel (tactility is that a word?) of the bump in the browns. I might be wrong... Can someone else answer that ?
"tactility" is not a word in French but it is on GH AFAIK. :p
The tactility of Clear > tactility of brown. The stem is not the same IIRC. They have a difference in terms of tactility which does not come only from the lower spring strength.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 22 May 2015, 16:54:19
Thanks Both,
If I got stronger springs on the browns (55g are stock?) would this have the effect of reducing bottoming out but leave the same tactile bump I'm used to?
Thanks
Adding a heavier spring will decrease the tactility of a switch.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 22 May 2015, 17:08:34
thanks Joey thats what I figured :thumb:Thanks Both,
If I got stronger springs on the browns (55g are stock?) would this have the effect of reducing bottoming out but leave the same tactile bump I'm used to?
Thanks
Adding a heavier spring will decrease the tactility of a switch.
Post by: Azumia on Fri, 22 May 2015, 19:47:36
Called GON the other day about my order, he is waiting on the acrylic case manufacturer.
This is very disappointing news. :<
I was hoping for a short wait this time since I only ordered parts. Didn't he have trouble with the acrylic case manufacturer in the past as well?
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 22 May 2015, 20:48:58
I was hoping for a short wait this time since I only ordered parts. Didn't he have trouble with the acrylic case manufacturer in the past as well?
I think that aluminum that time.
I dunno. It sucks waiting for it though. I even have the BSP Olivetti keycaps waiting for it.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Sat, 23 May 2015, 22:07:20
I'm looking for a little advice.
I'm looking to get a keyboard from Gon. My current board is stock cherry mx browns they feel a little too light for me.
I'm stuck trying to decide between Browns and Clears and I'm totally lost on which springs to pick.
Any advice would be great.
Thanks
- ZippCen
like Sed8op8 said, gon has ergo clear option. I wish he offered the heavier end of the ergo spectrum (62g, 65g, 67g) rather than (55g, 58g, 62g) though. 62g is basically a bit heavier than brown but with the good tactile bump.
stock clears are also quite nice, I use them on my work board and portable board.
Back when I ordered, 67g was an option (that I selected). I wonder if that means I'll never get my board.
Post by: cphead on Sun, 24 May 2015, 01:30:57
Post by: faceyourfaces on Sun, 24 May 2015, 17:29:42
People who successfully contacted him on skype, when are you calling? I've tried to call in the afternoon Korean time several times and never get any answer. My order is 8 months old tomorrow. Last we spoke 7 months ago he told me everything was ready except for the parts from the manufacturer delay. Can a manufacturer really delay for 7 months -_-
Did you buy a prebuilt board? My order turns 7 months old tomorrow and I haven't been able to get him to answer on Skype for about 3 months now. It's definitely not the manufacturer.
Post by: cphead on Sun, 24 May 2015, 17:37:14
It's an assembled kmac plate and PCB with tuned switches. He told me the switches were done and waiting for plate or PCB from manufacturer 7 months ago and haven't heard from him since. I don't know what he's doing if it's not the manufacturer...it's ridiculous how hard it is to reach him, he should be giving me an update, I shouldn't have to hound him on Skype. For all I know he's ignoring my order and doing other things first.People who successfully contacted him on skype, when are you calling? I've tried to call in the afternoon Korean time several times and never get any answer. My order is 8 months old tomorrow. Last we spoke 7 months ago he told me everything was ready except for the parts from the manufacturer delay. Can a manufacturer really delay for 7 months -_-
Did you buy a prebuilt board? My order turns 7 months old tomorrow and I haven't been able to get him to answer on Skype for about 3 months now. It's definitely not the manufacturer.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sun, 24 May 2015, 18:03:11
It's an assembled kmac plate and PCB with tuned switches. He told me the switches were done and waiting for plate or PCB from manufacturer 7 months ago and haven't heard from him since. I don't know what he's doing if it's not the manufacturer...it's ridiculous how hard it is to reach him, he should be giving me an update, I shouldn't have to hound him on Skype. For all I know he's ignoring my order and doing other things first.People who successfully contacted him on skype, when are you calling? I've tried to call in the afternoon Korean time several times and never get any answer. My order is 8 months old tomorrow. Last we spoke 7 months ago he told me everything was ready except for the parts from the manufacturer delay. Can a manufacturer really delay for 7 months -_-
Did you buy a prebuilt board? My order turns 7 months old tomorrow and I haven't been able to get him to answer on Skype for about 3 months now. It's definitely not the manufacturer.
I normally hear back from GON a few days after messaging him on skype. I typically contact him at around 8pm CST.
Post by: lookitdisnub on Sun, 24 May 2015, 19:07:56
People who successfully contacted him on skype, when are you calling? I've tried to call in the afternoon Korean time several times and never get any answer. My order is 8 months old tomorrow. Last we spoke 7 months ago he told me everything was ready except for the parts from the manufacturer delay. Can a manufacturer really delay for 7 months -_-
Did you buy a prebuilt board? My order turns 7 months old tomorrow and I haven't been able to get him to answer on Skype for about 3 months now. It's definitely not the manufacturer.
I last spoke to him 3 weeks ago but haven't been able to get ahold of him since. My order is about 6 months old, so I guess we're in the same boat.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Sun, 24 May 2015, 19:55:44
Post by: ttzhou on Sun, 24 May 2015, 21:26:24
Don't try late afternoon. I can literally vouch that calling somewhere in the neighbourhood of 10:30 PM to 12:15 AM Eastern Standard Time has always resulted in me contacting him. I sometimes had to make 3 calls. If the first call fails, wait 30 minutes, try again. One time he said he couldn't take my first two calls because he was driving.
I realize 100% that this is not convenient, and you have every right to be frustrated, but every time I have tried this method I was able to reach him.
It takes persistence. Try every day. He's not a business - he's one man, so the standard logic of "fail to reach during business hours = never reachable" doesn't apply.
Post by: awhitedev on Mon, 25 May 2015, 14:43:14
Post by: the pokemon kid on Wed, 27 May 2015, 09:44:07
I ordered a pre soldered PCB. So hopefully it will be here soon!
Post by: the pokemon kid on Thu, 28 May 2015, 05:33:59
Any idea of how to get hold of him? I am ringing him on Skype to his Skype. I am reluctant to buy £10 worth of Skype credit to call his mobile as this would be the only time I would need to use it...
Post by: ZippCen on Thu, 28 May 2015, 05:49:02
I switched the brown and clear springs as an attempt at an ergo clear. :D
What weight are the stock brown springs? I've found some people saying 55g.
Post by: wlhlm on Thu, 28 May 2015, 06:50:47
Got myself a set of sample keys and a spare brown and clear.Cherry says 45g actuation weight. 55g Korean springs (which are measured for bottoming out-weight) are often compared to MX Red.
I switched the brown and clear springs as an attempt at an ergo clear. :D
What weight are the stock brown springs? I've found some people saying 55g.
Post by: asgeirtj on Thu, 28 May 2015, 18:39:08
Post by: the pokemon kid on Fri, 29 May 2015, 06:28:50
I just want to know what is happening with my order. It has been stuck in "Preparation in Progress" for nearly a month now. I don't really care if my order is delayed... I just want to know what is happening!
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 29 May 2015, 08:35:41
I have tried GON four times each morning on Skype (Between 8pm and 10pm for Korean time) and each evening (Between 9am and 11am for Korean time). I have had no luck getting through and have been busied twice now. One in the evening and one in the morning. I have done this over the last couple of days I have left two Skype text messages and had no response.
I just want to know what is happening with my order. It has been stuck in "Preparation in Progress" for nearly a month now. I don't really care if my order is delayed... I just want to know what is happening!
Try between 11 AM and 1 PM for Korean Time.
You are lucky - mine is still only in Payment Received. Did you order a case? Could be manufacturer delay. He could also be burned out.
Post by: Lpwl on Fri, 29 May 2015, 08:56:04
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 29 May 2015, 09:05:16
This may cast some light : https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gon-ns-nerd-crystal-tkl?mode=guest_open
goddammit. this is obviously going to take priority. sigh.
Post by: the pokemon kid on Fri, 29 May 2015, 09:14:21
I have tried GON four times each morning on Skype (Between 8pm and 10pm for Korean time) and each evening (Between 9am and 11am for Korean time). I have had no luck getting through and have been busied twice now. One in the evening and one in the morning. I have done this over the last couple of days I have left two Skype text messages and had no response.
I just want to know what is happening with my order. It has been stuck in "Preparation in Progress" for nearly a month now. I don't really care if my order is delayed... I just want to know what is happening!
Try between 11 AM and 1 PM for Korean Time.
You are lucky - mine is still only in Payment Received. Did you order a case? Could be manufacturer delay. He could also be burned out.
I ordered the GON 60% PCB and Diodes, we talked a while ago and he said that he had a pre soldered one. So I paid $9 more for this pre soldered one and still haven't got it!
I will try and ring him around then. It does mean I will have to stay up until 3-5am... I am in the UK after all.
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 29 May 2015, 09:26:00
I have tried GON four times each morning on Skype (Between 8pm and 10pm for Korean time) and each evening (Between 9am and 11am for Korean time). I have had no luck getting through and have been busied twice now. One in the evening and one in the morning. I have done this over the last couple of days I have left two Skype text messages and had no response.
I just want to know what is happening with my order. It has been stuck in "Preparation in Progress" for nearly a month now. I don't really care if my order is delayed... I just want to know what is happening!
Try between 11 AM and 1 PM for Korean Time.
You are lucky - mine is still only in Payment Received. Did you order a case? Could be manufacturer delay. He could also be burned out.
I ordered the GON 60% PCB and Diodes, we talked a while ago and he said that he had a pre soldered one. So I paid $9 more for this pre soldered one and still haven't got it!
I will try and ring him around then. It does mean I will have to stay up until 3-5am... I am in the UK after all.
I think others have experienced success around 4PM Korean Time, which would be 8am ish UK time (I think)?
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 29 May 2015, 09:35:04
this is super frustrating 8-/This may cast some light : https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gon-ns-nerd-crystal-tkl?mode=guest_open
goddammit. this is obviously going to take priority. sigh.
Post by: the pokemon kid on Fri, 29 May 2015, 09:36:11
I have tried GON four times each morning on Skype (Between 8pm and 10pm for Korean time) and each evening (Between 9am and 11am for Korean time). I have had no luck getting through and have been busied twice now. One in the evening and one in the morning. I have done this over the last couple of days I have left two Skype text messages and had no response.
I just want to know what is happening with my order. It has been stuck in "Preparation in Progress" for nearly a month now. I don't really care if my order is delayed... I just want to know what is happening!
Try between 11 AM and 1 PM for Korean Time.
You are lucky - mine is still only in Payment Received. Did you order a case? Could be manufacturer delay. He could also be burned out.
I ordered the GON 60% PCB and Diodes, we talked a while ago and he said that he had a pre soldered one. So I paid $9 more for this pre soldered one and still haven't got it!
I will try and ring him around then. It does mean I will have to stay up until 3-5am... I am in the UK after all.
I think others have experienced success around 4PM Korean Time, which would be 8am ish UK time (I think)?
I will give that a try, I have been ringing at 5PM Korean time and been having no luck.
The massdrop sale is probably going to put a lot of pressure on him thought so I can understand that there might be a delay. However just a update via a thread would do :D
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 29 May 2015, 09:42:32
this is super frustrating 8-/
Yeah. I'm happy that he is probably going to make considerable money off of this, but I'm worried this might go the way of those other GBs where he'll burn out from the workload.
Post by: Azumia on Fri, 29 May 2015, 16:52:02
This may cast some light : https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gon-ns-nerd-crystal-tkl?mode=guest_open
Am I the only one who thinks this is kind of ridiculous? He was SWAMPED from the last group buy, and we all had to suffer by waiting so much longer for our orders than promised.
Like ttzhou said, this is obviously going to take priority. I just ordered parts this time; I shouldn't have to wait another 6 months for them and after seeing him agree to do another group buy, I'm worried that's what's going to happen.
It's one thing if there's a delay with the acrylic case manufacturer (although communicating that to those of us who ordered one instead of having to search this forum for answers would be nice), but it's another issue entirely when he's prioritizing a group buy that was started AFTER other orders were placed. :/
Post by: faceyourfaces on Sat, 30 May 2015, 10:31:15
This may cast some light : https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gon-ns-nerd-crystal-tkl?mode=guest_open
Am I the only one who thinks this is kind of ridiculous? He was SWAMPED from the last group buy, and we all had to suffer by waiting so much longer for our orders than promised.
Like ttzhou said, this is obviously going to take priority. I just ordered parts this time; I shouldn't have to wait another 6 months for them and after seeing him agree to do another group buy, I'm worried that's what's going to happen.
It's one thing if there's a delay with the acrylic case manufacturer (although communicating that to those of us who ordered one instead of having to search this forum for answers would be nice), but it's another issue entirely when he's prioritizing a group buy that was started AFTER other orders were placed. :/
I saw that in an email from Massdrop and my immediate response was "WTF?" I've been waiting 7 months with my order stuck on "Payment Accepted" and now this??????
Post by: ttzhou on Sat, 30 May 2015, 12:31:20
I saw that in an email from Massdrop and my immediate response was "WTF?" I've been waiting 7 months with my order stuck on "Payment Accepted" and now this??????
Yeah I'm bummed about this too. My only guess is that the parts needed for the Massdrop order are already in his possession from long ago (maybe some MOQ order) and he is simply sending them over. This is sort of confirmed by the comments, where someone mentions that GON has shipped most of the parts but not the middle layer of the polycarb body.
I hope this doesn't go the way of the GH60.
Post by: the pokemon kid on Sat, 30 May 2015, 13:20:35
I saw that in an email from Massdrop and my immediate response was "WTF?" I've been waiting 7 months with my order stuck on "Payment Accepted" and now this??????
Yeah I'm bummed about this too. My only guess is that the parts needed for the Massdrop order are already in his possession from long ago (maybe some MOQ order) and he is simply sending them over. This is sort of confirmed by the comments, where someone mentions that GON has shipped most of the parts but not the middle layer of the polycarb body.
I hope this doesn't go the way of the GH60.
I am hoping that I dont have to wait for another 6 months for these orders to come in!
Side note, I tried ringing GON again. He popped up as being online on this forum and rang him. Got nothing, he went offline pretty shortly after... Wish he would give an update post or at least pick my call up!
Post by: Willyc277 on Sat, 30 May 2015, 19:56:44
Post by: Danboard on Sat, 30 May 2015, 23:50:25
Massdrop sale won't have nearly enough bites to get to the MOQ. Maybe that's a good thing.Yup. At the rate its going, even with a full month they probably wouldn't reach it.
Post by: Azumia on Sun, 31 May 2015, 01:38:09
Massdrop sale won't have nearly enough bites to get to the MOQ. Maybe that's a good thing.
I'll be honest, I'm a bit relieved. He's been absolutely bogged down with orders and this group buy would just slow things down more.
I suppose people didn't realize just how expensive his boards are when they voted for it.
Post by: ttzhou on Sun, 31 May 2015, 12:30:05
Massdrop sale won't have nearly enough bites to get to the MOQ. Maybe that's a good thing.
I'll be honest, I'm a bit relieved. He's been absolutely bogged down with orders and this group buy would just slow things down more.
I suppose people didn't realize just how expensive his boards are when they voted for it.
I think it's more a case of them not realizing they'd have to build it themselves.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Sun, 31 May 2015, 12:34:41
Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 31 May 2015, 13:59:55
I think it's more a case of them not realizing they'd have to build it themselves.haha, my first thought
Post by: the pokemon kid on Sun, 31 May 2015, 20:08:16
Going to be watching my tracking status intently!
Post by: ttzhou on Sun, 31 May 2015, 21:36:13
Just talked to GON on Skype! He is working hard to get the orders out! My order is going to be sent to the courier service in two days time! so hopefully will be here next week :D
Going to be watching my tracking status intently!
If you don't mind me asking, what did you order (parts vs assembled) and when did you place your order?
Trying to get an ETA for mine based on this.
Post by: Azumia on Mon, 01 June 2015, 00:03:36
If you don't mind me asking, what did you order (parts vs assembled) and when did you place your order?
Trying to get an ETA for mine based on this.
I'm not who you're asking and I don't feel like scrolling back a few pages to look, but are you waiting on anything with acrylic? I finally managed to get ahold of GON via the ticket thing on his website, and he confirmed that there's a delay with the acrylic cases.
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 01 June 2015, 00:12:47
At least that's what he told me, when I asked last time.
Not sure if your case has anything to do with it though. Either way, I think he has a normal job, the keyboard is just a side hobby. So he might be busy with something else if he doesn't get back to you.
I can only vouch for GON for so much, since he did delivered my order together with a couple of guys from the DTA GB.
:D
Post by: Evo_Spec on Mon, 01 June 2015, 01:02:34
GON has quite a strict QC. He inspects all the cases when he receives them and if there's any unsatisfactory he will request for it to be re-manufactured.
At least that's what he told me, when I asked last time.
Not sure if your case has anything to do with it though. Either way, I think he has a normal job, the keyboard is just a side hobby. So he might be busy with something else if he doesn't get back to you.
I can only vouch for GON for so much, since he did delivered my order together with a couple of guys from the DTA GB.
:D
I'm actually really curious if he does indeed have a regular daytime job because that would really explain a lot of the issues.
With how proper his site is and how amazing his boards are i just assumed that this was his full time job.
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 02:23:51
Do you guys have any advice, you all seem slightly frustrated :)
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/141-nerd-mx-mini-ver20-pcb.html - By the way is the Ver 2.0 PCB in development as it says in the description?
Post by: the pokemon kid on Mon, 01 June 2015, 03:40:28
If you don't mind me asking, what did you order (parts vs assembled) and when did you place your order?
Trying to get an ETA for mine based on this.
I'm not who you're asking and I don't feel like scrolling back a few pages to look, but are you waiting on anything with acrylic? I finally managed to get ahold of GON via the ticket thing on his website, and he confirmed that there's a delay with the acrylic cases.
No Acrylic for me, I am waiting for the GON 60 presoldered. From what GON explained when I asked about why there was some delay for you guys. He said that he does indeed inspect all the cases before sending them out. He has however been given no lead time on the parts by the manufacturer so it is difficult for him to give timescales.
Just talked to GON on Skype! He is working hard to get the orders out! My order is going to be sent to the courier service in two days time! so hopefully will be here next week :D
Going to be watching my tracking status intently!
If you don't mind me asking, what did you order (parts vs assembled) and when did you place your order?
Trying to get an ETA for mine based on this.
I ordered the GON 60 PCB and Diodes. This was upgraded to a presoldered version. I ordered it on the 6th of May.
GON has quite a strict QC. He inspects all the cases when he receives them and if there's any unsatisfactory he will request for it to be re-manufactured.
At least that's what he told me, when I asked last time.
Not sure if your case has anything to do with it though. Either way, I think he has a normal job, the keyboard is just a side hobby. So he might be busy with something else if he doesn't get back to you.
I can only vouch for GON for so much, since he did delivered my order together with a couple of guys from the DTA GB.
:D
I'm actually really curious if he does indeed have a regular daytime job because that would really explain a lot of the issues.
With how proper his site is and how amazing his boards are i just assumed that this was his full time job.
I think that he might, when I talked to him he said that every two weeks or so, he and his wife package up all the products to be sent out for delivery over their weekend. So I am willing to give him a little more leeway if he is willing to do that!
Post by: Azumia on Mon, 01 June 2015, 05:02:54
I just paid someone to solder some UV purple LEDs into my Poker II for me, and they ended up being much dimmer than they should have been. We thought that maybe the LEDs weren't compatible with the resisters the Poker II has, so I'm concerned about my NerD 60 having the same issue.
Post by: MAR82 on Mon, 01 June 2015, 07:04:53
I keep seeing people mention pre-soldered PCBs, and I'm a bit confused. Does he automatically solder it when you also purchase diodes and resisters? Or do you have to ask him specifically to upgrade to pre-soldered?
I just paid someone to solder some UV purple LEDs into my Poker II for me, and they ended up being much dimmer than they should have been. We thought that maybe the LEDs weren't compatible with the resisters the Poker II has, so I'm concerned about my NerD 60 having the same issue.
I'm also using purple UV LEDs on my NerD 60 http://imgur.com/a/XXDLq#0 and think they are very dim (when compaired to my white or blue LEDs). I think these LEDs need resistors with less resistance.
Post by: KHAANNN on Mon, 01 June 2015, 07:19:03
I keep seeing people mention pre-soldered PCBs, and I'm a bit confused. Does he automatically solder it when you also purchase diodes and resisters? Or do you have to ask him specifically to upgrade to pre-soldered?
I just paid someone to solder some UV purple LEDs into my Poker II for me, and they ended up being much dimmer than they should have been. We thought that maybe the LEDs weren't compatible with the resisters the Poker II has, so I'm concerned about my NerD 60 having the same issue.
I'm also using purple UV LEDs on my NerD 60 http://imgur.com/a/XXDLq#0 and think they are very dim (when compaired to my white or blue LEDs). I think these LEDs need resistors with less resistance.
On the other hand, spacing of your Eve set is pretty good, I have one that isn't molded well, the key to key gaps vary too much, couldn't detect the same issue with your keyset, it's especially worse on the "W" - which is left molded while others are bottom molded
Is your set one of the originals? The issue I mentioned exists on one of the extras I bought
Post by: MAR82 on Mon, 01 June 2015, 07:38:40
I keep seeing people mention pre-soldered PCBs, and I'm a bit confused. Does he automatically solder it when you also purchase diodes and resisters? Or do you have to ask him specifically to upgrade to pre-soldered?
I just paid someone to solder some UV purple LEDs into my Poker II for me, and they ended up being much dimmer than they should have been. We thought that maybe the LEDs weren't compatible with the resisters the Poker II has, so I'm concerned about my NerD 60 having the same issue.
I'm also using purple UV LEDs on my NerD 60 http://imgur.com/a/XXDLq#0 and think they are very dim (when compaired to my white or blue LEDs). I think these LEDs need resistors with less resistance.
On the other hand, spacing of your Eve set is pretty good, I have one that isn't molded well, the key to key gaps vary too much, couldn't detect the same issue with your keyset, it's especially worse on the "W" - which is left molded while others are bottom molded
Is your set one of the originals? The issue I mentioned exists on one of the extras I bought
Yeah I just saw your comment on the Retro thread, where you were also talking about the Eve and Granite caps not being molded very well. Personally I guess I've just been lucky with my caps.
And yes, my set is one of the originals from the GB. However I would love to get my hands a second set of them
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 01 June 2015, 08:33:29
I keep seeing people mention pre-soldered PCBs, and I'm a bit confused. Does he automatically solder it when you also purchase diodes and resisters? Or do you have to ask him specifically to upgrade to pre-soldered?
There is a pre-soldered PCB that used to be on sale, it was leftovers from his DTA GB. It costs about 15 bucks less than asking for the service, IIRC. Not sure if there are any left over. If they are run out then you have to specifically request, I believe.
Post by: the pokemon kid on Tue, 02 June 2015, 04:24:40
I keep seeing people mention pre-soldered PCBs, and I'm a bit confused. Does he automatically solder it when you also purchase diodes and resisters? Or do you have to ask him specifically to upgrade to pre-soldered?
There is a pre-soldered PCB that used to be on sale, it was leftovers from his DTA GB. It costs about 15 bucks less than asking for the service, IIRC. Not sure if there are any left over. If they are run out then you have to specifically request, I believe.
I might well have that PCB. I bought the parts (PCB and Diodes) to do it myself and he then said for another $9 I could get it presoldered as he had one there...
My order now has just been updated with a tracking number!
Post by: cphead on Thu, 04 June 2015, 02:25:53
I'm not who you're asking and I don't feel like scrolling back a few pages to look, but are you waiting on anything with acrylic? I finally managed to get ahold of GON via the ticket thing on his website, and he confirmed that there's a delay with the acrylic cases.
Does polycarb count as acrylic?
Did he give any sort of time frame? And is an 8 month delay on an acrylic plate realistic...?
If it is indeed an issue with the acrylic, I'm sad he doesn't just straight up tell his customers that instead of having them wait for 8 months with no clue of wtf is going on.
Post by: Evo_Spec on Thu, 04 June 2015, 02:34:26
I'm not who you're asking and I don't feel like scrolling back a few pages to look, but are you waiting on anything with acrylic? I finally managed to get ahold of GON via the ticket thing on his website, and he confirmed that there's a delay with the acrylic cases.
Does polycarb counts as acrylic?
Did he give any sort of time frame? And is an 8 month delay on an acrylic plate realistic...?
If it is indeed an issue with the acrylic, I'm sad he doesn't just straight up tell his customers that instead of having them wait for 8 months with no clue of wtf is going on.
I imagine that his PC and acrylic cases probably come from the same supplier so it still applies to you.
Post by: the pokemon kid on Thu, 04 June 2015, 11:54:00
Post by: ZippCen on Tue, 09 June 2015, 15:38:33
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 09 June 2015, 17:08:11
Attempted to place an order today but only 'Balance Transfer' was available as a method. Waiting on a reply from Gon but wondered if anyone knew if this was intended, a bug or payment gateway down?
Perhaps he knows he can't fulfill al the order atm so he prefer not have people ordering and waiting too much. That's just my 2cents, don't quote me on that.
Post by: fmendonca on Sun, 14 June 2015, 03:31:07
Can you anyone tell me if it's a good idea to buy from GON right now? I really want a DIY kit, that's all, no assembly service. Since most people can't get even get in touch with him, how long could an order like this take?
Post by: KHAANNN on Sun, 14 June 2015, 03:44:12
I was on the website a while ago. After the last step if you accept the order, it gives you the instructions to pay by Paypal. The problem is, he instructs you to use the "gift" option, which I believe doesn't give the buyer protection?
Can you anyone tell me if it's a good idea to buy from GON right now? I really want a DIY kit, that's all, no assembly service. Since most people can't get even get in touch with him, how long could an order like this take?
find a pcb
find a case you like
get a plate manufactured
get switches and equipment you like
take your time, DIY it right :)
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 14 June 2015, 08:22:19
I was on the website a while ago. After the last step if you accept the order, it gives you the instructions to pay by Paypal. The problem is, he instructs you to use the "gift" option, which I believe doesn't give the buyer protection?
Can you anyone tell me if it's a good idea to buy from GON right now? I really want a DIY kit, that's all, no assembly service. Since most people can't get even get in touch with him, how long could an order like this take?
I believe if all you want is a pcb with no soldering you should be okay.
If you want acrylic or aluminum parts, those seem to frequently be the things GON mentions he's waiting for.
Post by: fmendonca on Sun, 14 June 2015, 08:25:59
I was on the website a while ago. After the last step if you accept the order, it gives you the instructions to pay by Paypal. The problem is, he instructs you to use the "gift" option, which I believe doesn't give the buyer protection?
Can you anyone tell me if it's a good idea to buy from GON right now? I really want a DIY kit, that's all, no assembly service. Since most people can't get even get in touch with him, how long could an order like this take?
Cool, thanks for the answer. I actually went ahead and purchased the DIY kit for the Crystal. Somehow he answered when I called him on Skype and was really nice and told me that he would probably be able to ship in one week. So I payed by paypal and now just waiting :).
I believe if all you want is a pcb with no soldering you should be okay.
If you want acrylic or aluminum parts, those seem to frequently be the things GON mentions he's waiting for.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Sun, 14 June 2015, 08:49:34
Do any of you know anyone that Gon talks to here or is friends with. The last 5-6 Skype calls have gone unanswered during the times that have worked in the past. Messages left here on his site and on his phone and still no answer. 7 months now :( on assembled board and the last few times of contact once in march told would ship in 1-2weeks in April one month later assured the board was done and he would ship in the next week. One month later now may said he was putting finishing touches on it and would be shipping within 1 to 2 more weeks and now its been another month and have not been able to get in contact. This is really starting to depress me don't know what to do. I feel like there's no point in even contact. It's been over the Paypal protection period and was thinking I would have better luck proxying through someone who talks to him maybe. I don't know sigh.....
Post by: heedpantsnow on Sun, 14 June 2015, 09:01:21
Hey folks
Do any of you know anyone that Gon talks to here or is friends with. The last 5-6 Skype calls have gone unanswered during the times that have worked in the past. Messages left here on his site and on his phone and still no answer. 7 months now :( on assembled board and the last few times of contact once in march told would ship in 1-2weeks in April one month later assured the board was done and he would ship in the next week. One month later now may said he was putting finishing touches on it and would be shipping within 1 to 2 more weeks and now its been another month and have not been able to get in contact. This is really starting to depress me don't know what to do. I feel like there's no point in even contact. It's been over the Paypal protection period and was thinking I would have better luck proxying through someone who talks to him maybe. I don't know sigh.....
Man so sorry to hear that.
Post by: ceflame on Sun, 14 June 2015, 13:51:45
Hey folks
Do any of you know anyone that Gon talks to here or is friends with. The last 5-6 Skype calls have gone unanswered during the times that have worked in the past. Messages left here on his site and on his phone and still no answer. 7 months now :( on assembled board and the last few times of contact once in march told would ship in 1-2weeks in April one month later assured the board was done and he would ship in the next week. One month later now may said he was putting finishing touches on it and would be shipping within 1 to 2 more weeks and now its been another month and have not been able to get in contact. This is really starting to depress me don't know what to do. I feel like there's no point in even contact. It's been over the Paypal protection period and was thinking I would have better luck proxying through someone who talks to him maybe. I don't know sigh.....
I feel for you. The same thing happened for me as well. Just to make it clear, it seems it happens to EVERYONE, including CTRL[ALT] :(
You'll get your board in the end, but it's still a very frustrating process.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61651.msg1673428#msg1673428 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61651.msg1673428#msg1673428)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61651.msg1707043#msg1707043 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61651.msg1707043#msg1707043)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61651.msg1736246#msg1736246 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61651.msg1736246#msg1736246)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61651.msg1776850#msg1776850 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=61651.msg1776850#msg1776850)
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 15 June 2015, 03:03:29
Post by: the pokemon kid on Mon, 15 June 2015, 04:00:22
Hey folks
Do any of you know anyone that Gon talks to here or is friends with. The last 5-6 Skype calls have gone unanswered during the times that have worked in the past. Messages left here on his site and on his phone and still no answer. 7 months now :( on assembled board and the last few times of contact once in march told would ship in 1-2weeks in April one month later assured the board was done and he would ship in the next week. One month later now may said he was putting finishing touches on it and would be shipping within 1 to 2 more weeks and now its been another month and have not been able to get in contact. This is really starting to depress me don't know what to do. I feel like there's no point in even contact. It's been over the Paypal protection period and was thinking I would have better luck proxying through someone who talks to him maybe. I don't know sigh.....
I talked to GON a short time ago about the orders, he said that he is trying to get them out ASAP. He is really over worked at the moment. He sends bulk loads of packages out every two weeks as it is the easiest way for him to deal with the demand.
Try contacting GON at 8:30-11am Korean time or 5pm-10pm Korean time through Skype (He has it on his PC and his mobile and he prefers to pick that up). I did this and was able to get in contact with him and talk to him and sort my order out.
If you still have a problem, I can try and get in contact with him as he is now "friended" me on Skype.
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 15 June 2015, 08:32:08
I talked to GON a short time ago about the orders, he said that he is trying to get them out ASAP. He is really over worked at the moment. He sends bulk loads of packages out every two weeks as it is the easiest way for him to deal with the demand.
Try contacting GON at 8:30-11am Korean time or 5pm-10pm Korean time through Skype (He has it on his PC and his mobile and he prefers to pick that up). I did this and was able to get in contact with him and talk to him and sort my order out.
If you still have a problem, I can try and get in contact with him as he is now "friended" me on Skype.
Yeah, hope he is okay. Maybe he should look at taking a break from new orders, unless this is his primary source of income...
Post by: Bucky on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:39:34
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 15 June 2015, 12:55:17
Anyone had any luck canceling an order with GON? Assuming he hasn't had the case built/anodized I wanted to know if it would even be a possibility.
I would venture no... I think what happens is that he places the order for your parts right away and thus has already used your funds. You can always try and be the first to tell us though.
The only similar actions I've seen are people selling their orders to others.
Post by: iandoug on Wed, 17 June 2015, 11:21:25
Can't GH use readable captchas?
Post by: wlhlm on Wed, 17 June 2015, 15:17:25
Well I suppose I should feel relieved I'm not the only one with this problem ... I just ordered two batches of switches, the lack of communication is the most distressing.Huh? I can't remember having had to solve any captcha on Geekhack before...
Can't GH use readable captchas?
Post by: CaplockJack on Wed, 17 June 2015, 15:27:27
Well I suppose I should feel relieved I'm not the only one with this problem ... I just ordered two batches of switches, the lack of communication is the most distressing.
Can't GH use readable captchas?
Yep, it took me like 5 times to get one!
Post by: Azumia on Fri, 19 June 2015, 02:50:45
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 04:49:11
Has anyone heard any updates about orders with acrylic cases? I'm tired of trying to get in contact with GON, and other people seem to have better luck, so I'm hoping someone knows what's going on with the acrylic parts that were delayed recently.
Well I suppose I should feel relieved I'm not the only one with this problem ... I just ordered two batches of switches, the lack of communication is the most distressing.
Can't GH use readable captchas?
Yep, it took me like 5 times to get one!
He has not been picking up his skype during his normal times or returning any of his calls or messages. I wish you better luck then me!!!!
Post by: Evo_Spec on Fri, 19 June 2015, 08:17:14
Well I suppose I should feel relieved I'm not the only one with this problem ... I just ordered two batches of switches, the lack of communication is the most distressing.
Can't GH use readable captchas?
It'll go away after 10 posts or so.
Post by: Bucky on Fri, 19 June 2015, 11:35:01
Post by: KHAANNN on Fri, 19 June 2015, 14:16:05
You guys at least deserve an occasional forums post from GON about the state of your orders, it was painful reading about your experiences, time to unwatch the thread I guess, it's getting pretty sad
No matter how busy an individual is, I think at least a monthly status update would be manageable ...
Post by: iandoug on Fri, 19 June 2015, 18:36:24
Can't GH use readable captchas?
It'll go away after 10 posts or so.
I found the trick is to use ctrl-+ to zoom in a lot, then it becomes easy to read the letters.
Post by: ManicMatt1125 on Fri, 19 June 2015, 20:12:53
Can't GH use readable captchas?
It'll go away after 10 posts or so.
I found the trick is to use ctrl-+ to zoom in a lot, then it becomes easy to read the letters.
Nice, I never thought of that. It's darn good idea
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 19 June 2015, 22:57:36
Since my initial query I've been watching this thread as I was curious, I'm really really really glad that I didn't impulse buy a 75%I was in the same situation as you were. Wondering if I should get my 60% case or not. That's a sad thing to say but I'm happy I didn't order one.
You guys at least deserve an occasional forums post from GON about the state of your orders, it was painful reading about your experiences, time to unwatch the thread I guess, it's getting pretty sad
No matter how busy an individual is, I think at least a monthly status update would be manageable ...
Post by: Naweo on Sun, 21 June 2015, 06:11:11
Post by: yobinad on Sun, 21 June 2015, 07:00:20
Post by: absyrd on Sun, 21 June 2015, 07:21:44
My advice is, call him until you get it in your hands
Sad that this is what it takes.
GON needs to hire some help asap.
Post by: Azumia on Sun, 21 June 2015, 13:12:09
GON needs to hire some help asap.
Or just stop taking orders until he's caught up. It's sad that I had to threaten to cancel my first order for GON to actually ship it when promised. And whenever I come back to this thread, I still see people who ordered before I did wondering when their board is going to ship.
He needs to either be honest and transparent with people and change the entire lead-time section on his website to a more accurate time frame or just stop taking orders until his workload allows him to meet the lead-time he promises.
If I didn't like the aesthetics of GON's keyboards so much, I never would have ordered from him again. Having to jump through hoops to contact someone you've sent a TON of money to is ridiculous.
If anyone is reading this and considering ordering from GON, at least front the extra money to cover PayPal fees so that you don't have to pay with gift and can actually cancel your order if you get sick of waiting.
Post by: razenos on Mon, 22 June 2015, 04:01:35
stuck at payment accepted , try contact him every way and got nothing.
give money to him and now i have to beg him to ship my order , very sad.
anyone can contact him, please help me ask him about my order.
My order number is : HJEWPCOTI
thank you.
Post by: iandoug on Mon, 22 June 2015, 04:13:50
Post by: henz on Mon, 22 June 2015, 04:20:37
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 22 June 2015, 09:06:25
It may be in 2022. Computers may be obsolete.
But you will get your order.
Post by: dragonken on Thu, 25 June 2015, 10:18:42
GON's tuned 62g clear switches are really great.
so originally I was going to order another set of 62g clears from GON...
I starred this thread and hope he can catch up
Post by: faceyourfaces on Thu, 25 June 2015, 14:21:50
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Post by: ttzhou on Thu, 25 June 2015, 15:04:21
Just coming here to post my monthly update. It's now been 8 months since I ordered the keyboard in October 2014. GON told me I was going to get it earlier this month, but I can't say I'm surprised that the order still hasn't passed "Payment Accepted."
:blank:
Did he explain why there was a delay? Also, if you don't mind answering, what was your order for?
Post by: Sed8op8 on Thu, 25 June 2015, 15:08:06
Post by: Joey Quinn on Thu, 25 June 2015, 18:03:28
Has anyone talked him since the beginning of this month he hasn't picked up for 3 weeks on his skype number just about 7 months now for a preassembled aluminum tkl .
I don't know if anyone has reached him about single orders but Bunny gave the impression the the CTRL[ALT] 60 GB was moving along and that's being done through GON.
Post by: wlhlm on Fri, 26 June 2015, 06:07:52
GON also wanted me to pass on this message
"Please tell the GB joiners and GH members that I feel so sorry for this terrible delay... I think I need to hire someone who can help me packing shipments. ;( The problem here is... it's not easy who has sufficient English skill needed for this work...."
and i would like to add, although there have been delays, i cant speak highly enough of gon, whenever i do get to speak to him he is always incredibly helpful, and takes great pride in his work, im over the moon with the results, and looking forward to working with him more in the future
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 26 June 2015, 08:45:05
But thank you, wlhlm, for the update, at least we know he's still alive and working :p
Post by: faceyourfaces on Fri, 26 June 2015, 09:27:02
Just coming here to post my monthly update. It's now been 8 months since I ordered the keyboard in October 2014. GON told me I was going to get it earlier this month, but I can't say I'm surprised that the order still hasn't passed "Payment Accepted."
:blank:
Did he explain why there was a delay? Also, if you don't mind answering, what was your order for?
Not really, it was a quick call. He just told me that he has to get to two orders before me, one from August and one from September, before he'd ship mine out. The order was a prebuilt Crystal TKL.
Post by: xybre on Thu, 02 July 2015, 12:58:52
It's the keyboard I really want, so here's hoping it's worth the wait!
Post by: ttzhou on Thu, 02 July 2015, 13:39:51
This probably means the acrylic case hold up is over.
Looking back at the "delay" periods, I noticed they occur during large GBs, like when he made the DTA PCBs and then CTRL ALT GB hitting hi. Once those wind down I think he will have some breathing room and start pushing out those assembly orders a lot faster.
I honestly don't know how he does it, I'd go insane.
Post by: SJHL on Thu, 02 July 2015, 15:23:40
Post by: limster on Thu, 02 July 2015, 21:28:52
Post by: heedpantsnow on Thu, 02 July 2015, 22:48:00
Post by: ttzhou on Thu, 02 July 2015, 23:09:48
I think there was a recent Massdrop buy for his stuff too. So I would be careful putting in an order now.
Fortunately for us (unfortunately for GON) I don't think that really took off.
GON seems to be slowly getting back into the swing of shipping.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 03 July 2015, 07:24:13
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 03 July 2015, 08:30:47
Finally news.....He sent pic of completed board and it supposedly went out yesterday 88888)
Congrats, girl! I hope you enjoy it!
Post by: Azumia on Fri, 03 July 2015, 12:48:35
My parts order was shipped recently.
This probably means the acrylic case hold up is over.
My order shipped almost a week ago as well. I also had an acrylic case in my order.
Here was GON's response to the email I sent him before I'd received a shipping notification:
Quote
So sorry for late reply...
I had to save time to ship out simple orders including yours.
You would have got the shipping notification. ;)
You'll get your items in about a week.
Thank you so much for your patience.
From now, simple orders will not take long.. lol~
(I found someone who will pack and ship orders at my website.)
So it seems he did find someone who can help him. I think now I'd be more willing to order parts from him in the future, but I definitely wouldn't order an assembled board again.
I do wish GON had better communication, but I appreciate the progress towards filling the parts orders faster.
Post by: SixtyLife on Fri, 03 July 2015, 12:50:08
Finally news.....He sent pic of completed board and it supposedly went out yesterday 88888)sweet, congrats! :thumb:
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 03 July 2015, 12:51:55
Building boards takes a LOOOOONNNGGGG time, the 2 months estimate was probably from the days before he became popular.
Post by: faceyourfaces on Fri, 03 July 2015, 13:26:08
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 03 July 2015, 13:29:18
GON finally finished my board as well. He says that he will ship it out within a couple of days.
Awesome!!! That's great news... can't even begin to imagine what it feels like to wait as long as you did.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 03 July 2015, 13:40:57
Post by: TLExile on Fri, 03 July 2015, 23:55:53
Post by: henz on Sat, 04 July 2015, 01:48:50
Anyone know how to get the nerd60 v2.1 board into bootloader manually? i wasn't able to configure the kbd reset with keymap using the 1.4 gui since it would crash every time i tried to save, there's mentions of the 1.3 gui being the only thing compatible with the board but i wasn't able to obtain it. now my only hope is to try and re flash the 2.0 firmware one the board but it keeps failing and timing out
I recognize this behaviour, there is 2 pads on the back of the pcb that's needs to be soldered together. I'm in bed now, but I'll shoot you a pm when I'm up and when I have checked it.
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Edit: ill post it here for future reference:
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/DQxDIZet6Uk/maxresdefault.jpg)
Please see the "DISCONNECT when installing FC155BC, if you are not using this FC155BC(whatever that is) the pads should be soldered together. Gon does not seem to solder these together if you order a pcb without him soldering resistors,diodes etc. I ordered a TKL and a 60 some time ago, the tkl board came with diodes and the pads soldered together(the tkl was part of a GB if i remeber correctly), but the 60 came without diodes, and i ran into the same problem as you had, gui would crash as soon as i plugged it in. So i basically did some error searching in my soldering and found these pads. which differed between the boards
Post by: TLExile on Sat, 04 July 2015, 10:42:22
The one thing i didn't think of when troubleshooting the board, thanks. the Fb155bc is actually the blutooth modual
Post by: lookitdisnub on Sat, 04 July 2015, 15:11:55
GON finally finished my board as well. He says that he will ship it out within a couple of days.
Mine as well. The wait will soon be over
Post by: rand on Tue, 07 July 2015, 11:32:09
Just got my Nerd60 crystal parts I ordered in Feb. Started putting it together last night and this morning. Anyone know about the 3 bluetooth LEDs (Bluetooth status/charging/indicator). Do they all work or is it just the charging LED?
Thanks!
Post by: yobinad on Tue, 07 July 2015, 11:52:28
Post by: Sed8op8 on Tue, 07 July 2015, 15:26:55
Quick question I was hoping one of you could help me out with. I am looking to replace the Aluminum bolts/screws that are shipping with my assembled board (gon tkl)and was wondering if I can order these from someone besides gon ? They appear to be a standard AL 7075T6 Bolts m3x12 mm with a flat head. I'm not sure if they are hex or not as I do not have the board in front of me. I do know he uses these for most of his housings though !
I really do not like the color and I do not want to wait 1-2 months for 12 bolts. Also it would be $24 plus shipping from him so there's that :eek: any help with this would be greatly appreciated 8)
Thanks all
Ashley (sed8)
Post by: fmendonca on Tue, 07 July 2015, 16:08:41
Hey folks
Quick question I was hoping one of you could help me out with. I am looking to replace the Aluminum bolts/screws that are shipping with my assembled board (gon tkl)and was wondering if I can order these from someone besides gon ? They appear to be a standard AL 7075T6 Bolts m3x12 mm with a flat head. I'm not sure if they are hex or not as I do not have the board in front of me. I do know he uses these for most of his housings though !
I really do not like the color and I do not want to wait 1-2 months for 12 bolts. Also it would be $24 plus shipping from him so there's that :eek: any help with this would be greatly appreciated 8)
Thanks all
Ashley (sed8)
Yep, the heads are hexagonal. Maybe someone else can give you exact dimensions :) good luck.
Post by: yobinad on Tue, 07 July 2015, 20:42:15
Hey folks
Quick question I was hoping one of you could help me out with. I am looking to replace the Aluminum bolts/screws that are shipping with my assembled board (gon tkl)and was wondering if I can order these from someone besides gon ? They appear to be a standard AL 7075T6 Bolts m3x12 mm with a flat head. I'm not sure if they are hex or not as I do not have the board in front of me. I do know he uses these for most of his housings though !
I really do not like the color and I do not want to wait 1-2 months for 12 bolts. Also it would be $24 plus shipping from him so there's that :eek: any help with this would be greatly appreciated 8)
Thanks all
Ashley (sed8)
The bolts are M3x12mm, HEX flat head(head embed, google translation from portuguese :D). You need a 2mm HEX key.
Do the bolts match the case color?
My case is grey, hard anodized. The bolts aren't made of aluminum. I guess it's alloy steel. They're black.
Post by: TLExile on Tue, 07 July 2015, 21:08:54
Hey all,
Just got my Nerd60 crystal parts I ordered in Feb. Started putting it together last night and this morning. Anyone know about the 3 bluetooth LEDs (Bluetooth status/charging/indicator). Do they all work or is it just the charging LED?
Thanks!
From my tests all of them can work at the same time. I set the indicator as caps lock since the in switch one is apparently linked to the normal back light. Charging light only works if you solder the dip switch and flip 2 on. bluetooth led has three modes from what i can tell, pairing mode, searching mode and on.
Post by: rand on Tue, 07 July 2015, 21:11:35
Thanks! Exactly what I needed.Hey all,
Just got my Nerd60 crystal parts I ordered in Feb. Started putting it together last night and this morning. Anyone know about the 3 bluetooth LEDs (Bluetooth status/charging/indicator). Do they all work or is it just the charging LED?
Thanks!
From my tests all of them can work at the same time. I set the indicator as caps lock since the in switch one is apparently linked to the normal back light. Charging light only works if you solder the dip switch and flip 2 on. bluetooth led has three modes from what i can tell, pairing mode, searching mode and on.
Post by: Azumia on Wed, 08 July 2015, 03:32:09
Post by: Sed8op8 on Wed, 08 July 2015, 07:25:33
no the bolts are a golden color and the aluminum casing is blue. I'm looking for a place I can buy these either locally or online in the United States. Also wondering if there is anything special about them that would keep me from using a replacement NOT from Gon himself ? Thanks everyone 8)Hey folks
Quick question I was hoping one of you could help me out with. I am looking to replace the Aluminum bolts/screws that are shipping with my assembled board (gon tkl)and was wondering if I can order these from someone besides gon ? They appear to be a standard AL 7075T6 Bolts m3x12 mm with a flat head. I'm not sure if they are hex or not as I do not have the board in front of me. I do know he uses these for most of his housings though !
I really do not like the color and I do not want to wait 1-2 months for 12 bolts. Also it would be $24 plus shipping from him so there's that :eek: any help with this would be greatly appreciated 8)
Thanks all
Ashley (sed8)
The bolts are M3x12mm, HEX flat head(head embed, google translation from portuguese :D). You need a 2mm HEX key.
Do the bolts match the case color?
My case is grey, hard anodized. The bolts aren't made of aluminum. I guess it's alloy steel. They're black.
Post by: yobinad on Wed, 08 July 2015, 09:19:01
http://products.coburnmyers.com/item/metric/flat-head-socket-cap-screws-din-7991/-3c12kfc-a2-70? (http://products.coburnmyers.com/item/metric/flat-head-socket-cap-screws-din-7991/-3c12kfc-a2-70?)
http://products.coburnmyers.com/item/metric/flat-head-socket-cap-screws-din-7991/-3c12kfc-12-9? (http://products.coburnmyers.com/item/metric/flat-head-socket-cap-screws-din-7991/-3c12kfc-12-9?)
My bolts look like the black ones
Post by: fmendonca on Wed, 08 July 2015, 09:40:35
As I understand I need to use an ISP programmer and than flash the TMK firmware to the PCB. Has anyone ever tried that and can confirm that everything works, including PCB and side LEDs?
Post by: xybre on Thu, 09 July 2015, 19:03:47
You can see pics on What did you get in the mail today? (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1794760#msg1794760) thread or on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/s2BfD).
I also requested a change to the LEDs months ago which didn't make it into the final build (the LEDs should be red), however the changes to the keyswitches were made (blues with heavier springs).
I do think that better communication and keeping track of customer and order status would be nice. The turn-around time was crazy, so I don't recommend anyone having GON build a keyboard for them, but parts seem to come much faster that assembly.
Post by: xybre on Thu, 09 July 2015, 19:04:32
Has anyone ever tried to flash a different bootloader into a Nerd 2.0 PCB? I enjoy the keyboard a lot but for me it would be much better to be able to tweak the firmware and flash different configurations.
As I understand I need to use an ISP programmer and than flash the TMK firmware to the PCB. Has anyone ever tried that and can confirm that everything works, including PCB and side LEDs?
I'm curious about this as well. I'd like to have more than 2 layers.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Fri, 10 July 2015, 10:27:43
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 10 July 2015, 10:44:56
So I had been inquiring about picking up some different colored bolts for my new gon coming in and I'm hoping these will do the trick. I don't have the board in front of me but these match the measurements and look pretty close (I think to the ones gon supplies) if someone has an extra one they could take a close up picture of for me that would be great so I can try and match the head shape http://www.fastener-express.com/m3-x-5-x-12mm-flat-head-socket-cap-screw-purple-anodized-qty-25.aspx
All m3 flat heads are the same shape so those will work.
Post by: argcargv on Fri, 10 July 2015, 11:43:16
I see here:
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/146-gon-ns-nerd-crystal-60-housing-only.html
is a pre order link, anyone know if this is still active? Is there a estimated delivery date?
Thanks!
Post by: Bucky on Fri, 10 July 2015, 11:45:10
Keyboard arrived! Finally after over 10 months!
You can see pics on What did you get in the mail today? (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1794760#msg1794760) thread or on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/s2BfD).
I also requested a change to the LEDs months ago which didn't make it into the final build (the LEDs should be red), however the changes to the keyswitches were made (blues with heavier springs).
I do think that better communication and keeping track of customer and order status would be nice. The turn-around time was crazy, so I don't recommend anyone having GON build a keyboard for them, but parts seem to come much faster that assembly.
What color is your case?
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 10 July 2015, 12:03:21
Hey guys, I really want to build a Gon Crystal 60% keyboard, I really like the Crystal TKL housing
I see here:
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/146-gon-ns-nerd-crystal-60-housing-only.html
is a pre order link, anyone know if this is still active? Is there a estimated delivery date?
Thanks!
I would personally wait a few months, or call GON ahead of time on Skype to get an idea of how busy he is. A lot of people have had to wait a while for their orders - I waited two months just for my parts.
That being said, GON is a great guy and is worthy of your business... just maybe not right away :p
Post by: xybre on Fri, 10 July 2015, 14:10:57
Keyboard arrived! Finally after over 10 months!
You can see pics on What did you get in the mail today? (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1794760#msg1794760) thread or on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/s2BfD).
I also requested a change to the LEDs months ago which didn't make it into the final build (the LEDs should be red), however the changes to the keyswitches were made (blues with heavier springs).
I do think that better communication and keeping track of customer and order status would be nice. The turn-around time was crazy, so I don't recommend anyone having GON build a keyboard for them, but parts seem to come much faster that assembly.
What color is your case?
There's pics of the case in the above links :)
Post by: Bucky on Fri, 10 July 2015, 18:27:48
Keyboard arrived! Finally after over 10 months!
You can see pics on What did you get in the mail today? (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1794760#msg1794760) thread or on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/s2BfD).
I also requested a change to the LEDs months ago which didn't make it into the final build (the LEDs should be red), however the changes to the keyswitches were made (blues with heavier springs).
I do think that better communication and keeping track of customer and order status would be nice. The turn-around time was crazy, so I don't recommend anyone having GON build a keyboard for them, but parts seem to come much faster that assembly.
What color is your case?
There's pics of the case in the above links :)
Oh sorry I meant which color is that grey? I ordered dark grey but to me it looks very similar to the regular grey, I was just wondering if yours was dark grey or black.
Post by: Ngt on Tue, 14 July 2015, 12:00:38
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 15 July 2015, 00:57:37
Post by: E3E on Wed, 15 July 2015, 15:43:14
What is the thickness for the poly insert? Someone asked this in the Simple Questions thread, but I want to know the answer as well. :)
Post by: yobinad on Wed, 15 July 2015, 17:04:45
Post by: sethk_ on Wed, 15 July 2015, 23:20:51
GON NS NerD TKL policarbonate thickness is 8mm. Keyboard thickness is 12mm.thank you!
Post by: xybre on Thu, 16 July 2015, 15:16:35
Keyboard arrived! Finally after over 10 months!
You can see pics on What did you get in the mail today? (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1794760#msg1794760) thread or on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/s2BfD).
I also requested a change to the LEDs months ago which didn't make it into the final build (the LEDs should be red), however the changes to the keyswitches were made (blues with heavier springs).
I do think that better communication and keeping track of customer and order status would be nice. The turn-around time was crazy, so I don't recommend anyone having GON build a keyboard for them, but parts seem to come much faster that assembly.
What color is your case?
There's pics of the case in the above links :)
Oh sorry I meant which color is that grey? I ordered dark grey but to me it looks very similar to the regular grey, I was just wondering if yours was dark grey or black.
Oh sorry, here's what I ordered: Anodizing Type : Hard(Grey/Dark Grey Only)
And then I asked GON about it repeatedly, but I can't find a response to my questions if I could get dark grey or not. It looks pretty damn dark grey to me, so I'm happy with it personally.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:12:34
Post by: Ngt on Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:16:47
Can someone talk me through programming a GON? It came preprogrammed with qwerty and some weird Fn setup.
I heard they are pretty easy thanks to Gon's software. But I don't know much sorry. Look on his website perhaps if you haven't done it already.
Post by: yobinad on Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:17:24
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:21:09
Post by: yobinad on Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:24:54
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:26:31
Post by: yobinad on Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:27:59
I can open it on windows 8.1 and windows XP
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:33:33
Is there a download that I'm missing?
Post by: yobinad on Fri, 17 July 2015, 18:36:22
NerD_api.dll
NerDy GUI.exe
winutil.dll
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 17 July 2015, 19:16:48
I have 3 files in the folder, on Desktop:When I get home I'll check of I have a folder, I don't think I do.
NerD_api.dll
NerDy GUI.exe
winutil.dll
Post by: yobinad on Fri, 17 July 2015, 19:22:21
Post by: Joey Quinn on Fri, 17 July 2015, 21:08:53
NerDy GUI 1.4 zipfile contains those 3 files. Just extract and run "NerDy GUI.exe"
Yeah I don't have that. Can you link it to me on dropbox or google plus or something?
Post by: yobinad on Sat, 18 July 2015, 04:24:05
Link from GON website (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/index.php?controller=attachment&id_attachment=9)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 18 July 2015, 18:55:35
Are you unable to download it from GON site?
Link from GON website (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/index.php?controller=attachment&id_attachment=9)
Got it, thanks! NerD is actually pretty slick for programming boards.
Post by: rand on Sat, 18 July 2015, 20:28:08
I have a gon crystal nerd60. I waited 5 months.Hey guys, I really want to build a Gon Crystal 60% keyboard, I really like the Crystal TKL housing
I see here:
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/146-gon-ns-nerd-crystal-60-housing-only.html
is a pre order link, anyone know if this is still active? Is there a estimated delivery date?
Thanks!
I would personally wait a few months, or call GON ahead of time on Skype to get an idea of how busy he is. A lot of people have had to wait a while for their orders - I waited two months just for my parts.
That being said, GON is a great guy and is worthy of your business... just maybe not right away
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 19 July 2015, 13:05:00
I have a gon crystal nerd60. I waited 5 months.Hey guys, I really want to build a Gon Crystal 60% keyboard, I really like the Crystal TKL housing
I see here:
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/146-gon-ns-nerd-crystal-60-housing-only.html (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/146-gon-ns-nerd-crystal-60-housing-only.html)
is a pre order link, anyone know if this is still active? Is there a estimated delivery date?
Thanks!
I would personally wait a few months, or call GON ahead of time on Skype to get an idea of how busy he is. A lot of people have had to wait a while for their orders - I waited two months just for my parts.
That being said, GON is a great guy and is worthy of your business... just maybe not right awayShow Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji14.png)
Did you ask for assembly on his side?
Post by: rand on Sun, 19 July 2015, 13:17:33
I assembled it myself. I asked for only partsI have a gon crystal nerd60. I waited 5 months.Hey guys, I really want to build a Gon Crystal 60% keyboard, I really like the Crystal TKL housing
I see here:
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/146-gon-ns-nerd-crystal-60-housing-only.html (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/146-gon-ns-nerd-crystal-60-housing-only.html)
is a pre order link, anyone know if this is still active? Is there a estimated delivery date?
Thanks!
I would personally wait a few months, or call GON ahead of time on Skype to get an idea of how busy he is. A lot of people have had to wait a while for their orders - I waited two months just for my parts.
That being said, GON is a great guy and is worthy of your business... just maybe not right awayShow Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji14.png)
Did you ask for assembly on his side?
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 19 July 2015, 16:50:57
Alright thank you.I assembled it myself. I asked for only partsI have a gon crystal nerd60. I waited 5 months.Hey guys, I really want to build a Gon Crystal 60% keyboard, I really like the Crystal TKL housing
I see here:
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/146-gon-ns-nerd-crystal-60-housing-only.html (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/146-gon-ns-nerd-crystal-60-housing-only.html)
is a pre order link, anyone know if this is still active? Is there a estimated delivery date?
Thanks!
I would personally wait a few months, or call GON ahead of time on Skype to get an idea of how busy he is. A lot of people have had to wait a while for their orders - I waited two months just for my parts.
That being said, GON is a great guy and is worthy of your business... just maybe not right awayShow Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji14.png)
Did you ask for assembly on his side?
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:15:36
Sifo built me an acrylic GON TKL, which has a middle layer "plate", and I foolishly forgot to tell him to clip my stabilizers.
My question is: if switches have already been soldered and the stabs are installed, does one have still have to desolder the switch in order to clip them? I heard that PCB mount switches can be clipped without desoldering.
Thanks for any reply!!!
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 20 July 2015, 13:56:41
GON mentions that his stabs are PCB mount.
Sifo built me an acrylic GON TKL, which has a middle layer "plate", and I foolishly forgot to tell him to clip my stabilizers.
My question is: if switches have already been soldered and the stabs are installed, does one have still have to desolder the switch in order to clip them? I heard that PCB mount switches can be clipped without desoldering.
Thanks for any reply!!!
This probably makes no sense that I'm replying to this but sharing my observations anyway.
Typically custom plates have the hole cutouts for the stabs, but not the wire. GON had made cut out for the wire as well, so it appears that I'd be able to pop out the stabilizers and then reseat them afterwards without having to completely separate the plate from the pcb (aka desolder everything). I can take another look when I'm home and you can let me know if you think it's worth a shot xD anyone else who has maybe done it feel free to chime in
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 20 July 2015, 14:29:19
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 20 July 2015, 17:45:38
Post by: henz on Tue, 21 July 2015, 01:34:34
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 21 July 2015, 10:32:16
I would say its pretty hard to remove the stabs without desoldering even with a nerd. The stab feet will get stuck and risk breaking them if you use too much force. I might be wrong, but that's how I felt at least , so I desoldered. gl
It was actually extremely easy you just pop them out from underneath the pcb as if the plate wasn't there lol. It didn't get stuck at all
Post by: yobinad on Tue, 21 July 2015, 12:00:37
Post by: ttzhou on Tue, 21 July 2015, 12:32:44
I had to desolder everything on my GON NS NerD to change the stabs. It was impossible no breaking it without desolder.
The alu plates don't have the wire cutout, from what I can see, so you couldn't pop the stabs out like Sifo did - you'd have to desolder all the switches so you could remove the top alu plate from covering the PCB (might be wrong on this).
Post by: yobinad on Tue, 21 July 2015, 14:33:00
It's impossible to remove the stabs without breaking them.
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 21 July 2015, 14:39:33
I had to desolder everything on my GON NS NerD to change the stabs. It was impossible no breaking it without desolder.
The alu plates don't have the wire cutout, from what I can see, so you couldn't pop the stabs out like Sifo did - you'd have to desolder all the switches so you could remove the top alu plate from covering the PCB (might be wrong on this).
Yeah my NS87 doesn't have cut outs for wires either. I'm talking about the acrylic plates, which this version uses.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 July 2015, 16:20:02
Post by: yobinad on Wed, 22 July 2015, 16:22:49
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 July 2015, 16:27:33
Post by: yobinad on Wed, 22 July 2015, 16:35:31
Check again the key combination to control backlight leds.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Wed, 22 July 2015, 16:50:52
Post by: Azumia on Thu, 23 July 2015, 00:05:09
I had originally planned on purple, but the only ones I've seen were the ones linked a couple pages back and they're too pink to match my UV purple LEDs, so I thought white would look nice instead. :3
Post by: Sed8op8 on Thu, 23 July 2015, 02:40:24
This is probably a long shot, but does anyone happen to know where I could find white replacement flat head screws for a NerD 60 acrylic case?
I had originally planned on purple, but the only ones I've seen were the ones linked a couple pages back and they're too pink to match my UV purple LEDs, so I thought white would look nice instead. :3
So I had been inquiring about picking up some different colored bolts for my new gon coming in and I'm hoping these will do the trick. I don't have the board in front of me but these match the measurements and look pretty close (I think to the ones gon supplies) if someone has an extra one they could take a close up picture of for me that would be great so I can try and match the head shape http://www.fastenerxx-express.com/m3-x-5-x-12mm-flat-head-socket-cap-screw-purple-anodized-qty-25.aspx
This is probably a long shot, but does anyone happen to know where I could find white replacement flat head screws for a NerD 60 acrylic case?are you referring to the purplish pink ones I linked? If so I believe they carry a metal or stainless steel one which will probably work for you !!!!
I had originally planned on purple, but the only ones I've seen were the ones linked a couple pages back and they're too pink to match my UV purple LEDs, so I thought white would look nice instead. :3
Post by: Azumia on Thu, 23 July 2015, 02:54:27
are you referring to the purplish pink ones I linked? If so I believe they carry a metal or stainless steel one which will probably work for you !!!!
Those are the ones I was referring to! :>
I actually did see those stainless steel ones and was planning on buying them if I couldn't find actual white ones.
Have you ordered the purple ones yet? Could you possibly post a picture of them once you receive them? I'd like to know how purple they are compared to the photo on the website. :3
Post by: Sed8op8 on Thu, 23 July 2015, 03:17:04
they should be here by saturday.... ill definitely throw up a pic :thumb:are you referring to the purplish pink ones I linked? If so I believe they carry a metal or stainless steel one which will probably work for you !!!!
Those are the ones I was referring to! :>
I actually did see those stainless steel ones and was planning on buying them if I couldn't find actual white ones.
Have you ordered the purple ones yet? Could you possibly post a picture of them once you receive them? I'd like to know how purple they are compared to the photo on the website. :3
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 27 July 2015, 17:20:41
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 27 July 2015, 17:45:34
how does one configure nerd using command line in linux? atm i have to boot into windows to configure my leds, but apparently there is a CLI interface for linux?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50577.0;attach=69952 this is the CLI for it
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 27 July 2015, 17:48:37
how does one configure nerd using command line in linux? atm i have to boot into windows to configure my leds, but apparently there is a CLI interface for linux?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=50577.0;attach=69952 this is the CLI for it
can't get that .exe to run in linux through sh or bash or zsh though... that's why i was confused.
Post by: Sifo on Mon, 27 July 2015, 17:52:39
Post by: ttzhou on Mon, 27 July 2015, 18:02:07
Seems to require .net framework 4... could try running it through Wine?
well there goes my windows free streak.
i'll give it a shot, thanks!
Post by: Sed8op8 on Mon, 27 July 2015, 18:51:37
here you goare you referring to the purplish pink ones I linked? If so I believe they carry a metal or stainless steel one which will probably work for you !!!!
Those are the ones I was referring to! :>
I actually did see those stainless steel ones and was planning on buying them if I couldn't find actual white ones.
Have you ordered the purple ones yet? Could you possibly post a picture of them once you receive them? I'd like to know how purple they are compared to the photo on the website. :3
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 27 July 2015, 20:16:58
here you goare you referring to the purplish pink ones I linked? If so I believe they carry a metal or stainless steel one which will probably work for you !!!!
Those are the ones I was referring to! :>
I actually did see those stainless steel ones and was planning on buying them if I couldn't find actual white ones.
Have you ordered the purple ones yet? Could you possibly post a picture of them once you receive them? I'd like to know how purple they are compared to the photo on the website. :3
That looks like the exact screws sent with mine. The color may be a perfect match.
Post by: Azumia on Tue, 28 July 2015, 00:16:52
here you go
Thank you! :>
Definitely not going to match all of my UV purple stuff, but I'm still kind of tempted since I have yet to find white ones.
Post by: ttzhou on Tue, 28 July 2015, 12:24:06
Has anyone who uses Linux (Arch Linux, preferably) been able to run the CLI interface for configuring LEDs and such? How does one do this.
Thanks in advance.
Post by: snowcolt17 on Thu, 30 July 2015, 20:15:33
but i see GON is backlogged bad..
is this for presoldered boards, or for anything in gnereal?
Post by: ttzhou on Thu, 30 July 2015, 20:38:00
didnt wanna make a new topic for this..
but i see GON is backlogged bad..
is this for presoldered boards, or for anything in gnereal?
actually he has presoldered pcbs with resistors for sale. what will likely delay you is assembled boards, or requesting soldering services. I requested side led service and it took me about 2 months (4x original estimate).
it was worth it. gon is definitely a "keyboard master" as he says.
Post by: Sifo on Thu, 30 July 2015, 20:39:38
didnt wanna make a new topic for this..
but i see GON is backlogged bad..
is this for presoldered boards, or for anything in gnereal?
actually he has presoldered pcbs with resistors for sale. what will likely delay you is assembled boards, or requesting soldering services. I requested side led service and it took me about 2 months (4x original estimate).
it was worth it. gon is definitely a "keyboard master" as he says.
I coulda done SMD LEDs... ;P just saying
Post by: snowcolt17 on Thu, 30 July 2015, 20:48:45
didnt wanna make a new topic for this..
but i see GON is backlogged bad..
is this for presoldered boards, or for anything in gnereal?
actually he has presoldered pcbs with resistors for sale. what will likely delay you is assembled boards, or requesting soldering services. I requested side led service and it took me about 2 months (4x original estimate).
it was worth it. gon is definitely a "keyboard master" as he says.
so the full smt doesnt have a delay just the soldering services?
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 31 July 2015, 08:25:00
didnt wanna make a new topic for this..
but i see GON is backlogged bad..
is this for presoldered boards, or for anything in gnereal?
actually he has presoldered pcbs with resistors for sale. what will likely delay you is assembled boards, or requesting soldering services. I requested side led service and it took me about 2 months (4x original estimate).
it was worth it. gon is definitely a "keyboard master" as he says.
I coulda done SMD LEDs... ;P just saying
lol yea, well, I ordered first *then* looked for services. if i ever have a lapse in judgment to buy another one, will def do that. :thumb:
Post by: Naweo on Fri, 31 July 2015, 10:42:24
Post by: ttzhou on Fri, 31 July 2015, 11:13:51
I ordered my keyboard 10 months ago and it still says "payment accepted" and I can not get ahold of Gon. I paid almost 600 dollars for mine. Suggestions?
Were you able to successfully add him on Skype?
Post by: Naweo on Fri, 31 July 2015, 22:09:24
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 31 July 2015, 22:49:31
Post by: snowcolt17 on Fri, 31 July 2015, 23:30:24
didnt wanna make a new topic for this..
but i see GON is backlogged bad..
is this for presoldered boards, or for anything in gnereal?
actually he has presoldered pcbs with resistors for sale. what will likely delay you is assembled boards, or requesting soldering services. I requested side led service and it took me about 2 months (4x original estimate).
it was worth it. gon is definitely a "keyboard master" as he says.
I coulda done SMD LEDs... ;P just saying
lol yea, well, I ordered first *then* looked for services. if i ever have a lapse in judgment to buy another one, will def do that. :thumb:
i wish GON could conform it. if so id order it firday :/
Post by: Ngt on Sat, 01 August 2015, 04:30:36
didnt wanna make a new topic for this..
but i see GON is backlogged bad..
is this for presoldered boards, or for anything in gnereal?
actually he has presoldered pcbs with resistors for sale. what will likely delay you is assembled boards, or requesting soldering services. I requested side led service and it took me about 2 months (4x original estimate).
it was worth it. gon is definitely a "keyboard master" as he says.
I coulda done SMD LEDs... ;P just saying
lol yea, well, I ordered first *then* looked for services. if i ever have a lapse in judgment to buy another one, will def do that. :thumb:
i wish GON could conform it. if so id order it firday :/
I was in the same spot as you and I decided not to order, even though I wanted an unassembled case. I guess you have to be prepared to wait some time don't hope for a quick order IMHO.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 01 August 2015, 10:41:04
Post by: ttzhou on Sun, 02 August 2015, 19:17:16
I have had him on skype since I made my order. No responses for the last 3 months, 10 times or so.Call him between 11 PM and 12:30 AM Eastern Standard. Try every fifteen minutes or so.
Post by: henz on Mon, 03 August 2015, 02:55:59
didnt wanna make a new topic for this..
but i see GON is backlogged bad..
is this for presoldered boards, or for anything in gnereal?
actually he has presoldered pcbs with resistors for sale. what will likely delay you is assembled boards, or requesting soldering services. I requested side led service and it took me about 2 months (4x original estimate).
it was worth it. gon is definitely a "keyboard master" as he says.
I coulda done SMD LEDs... ;P just saying
lol yea, well, I ordered first *then* looked for services. if i ever have a lapse in judgment to buy another one, will def do that. :thumb:
i wish GON could conform it. if so id order it firday :/
I was in the same spot as you and I decided not to order, even though I wanted an unassembled case. I guess you have to be prepared to wait some time don't hope for a quick order IMHO.
Well i think everything will take time. Some things more than other, i have ordered two pcbs which are not presoldered. Took me 1 month(got the shipping notification today, YAY) i have ordered 1 presoldered pcb and a anodized housing, took 5 months.
CTRL alt housing almost took a year. But i got it and i could not be happier.
Just order what you want, you will not be dissapointed.
Post by: Ngt on Mon, 03 August 2015, 03:10:03
didnt wanna make a new topic for this..
but i see GON is backlogged bad..
is this for presoldered boards, or for anything in gnereal?
actually he has presoldered pcbs with resistors for sale. what will likely delay you is assembled boards, or requesting soldering services. I requested side led service and it took me about 2 months (4x original estimate).
it was worth it. gon is definitely a "keyboard master" as he says.
I coulda done SMD LEDs... ;P just saying
lol yea, well, I ordered first *then* looked for services. if i ever have a lapse in judgment to buy another one, will def do that. :thumb:
i wish GON could conform it. if so id order it firday :/
I was in the same spot as you and I decided not to order, even though I wanted an unassembled case. I guess you have to be prepared to wait some time don't hope for a quick order IMHO.
Well i think everything will take time. Some things more than other, i have ordered two pcbs which are not presoldered. Took me 1 month(got the shipping notification today, YAY) i have ordered 1 presoldered pcb and a anodized housing, took 5 months.
CTRL alt housing almost took a year. But i got it and i could not be happier.
Just order what you want, you will not be dissapointed.
Yeah I'm hesitating. I know that the product will be nice, I have no doubt on that. It is just that I don't know if I want to wait that much. I have only one keyboard atm because I sold the other in order to have the fund for my custom build. I'm still gauging up what I want to do as I'm not sure myself. :D Perhaps I'll wait on the Duck Viper/Eagle v2 ... ::)
Post by: Naweo on Mon, 03 August 2015, 13:38:14
GON literally just replied to me when I contacted him via his website's contact form like an hour ago.
Okay I will try that. I do not like to spam call him on skype but... if this thing surpasses a year, then I will.
Post by: Naweo on Thu, 06 August 2015, 23:39:41
Anyone able to contact for me please? :)
Post by: dav1k on Sat, 15 August 2015, 06:26:12
I'm interested in possibly placing an order for NerD mx-mini keyboard parts; assembly will be done by me.
Some questions I have are concerning his work load. I can imagine making Ferrari-esque keyboards will take quite a long time, and I can easily see waiting months for the product, but how responsive is the web-store regarding just parts? I'm ordering PCB and electronic parts to go with it for a build.
Second is much more specific. I'm interested in the Acrylic Housing for the mx-mini, and the page states "This housing is not compatible with On-PCB(Top Side) Backlight LEDs of NerD mx-mini Ver2.0 PCB." Does anyone have any information about that statement and/or anything else about that housing they are willing to share?
More the better!
Thanks guys!
Post by: chilldude_22 on Sun, 23 August 2015, 12:13:32
I have trying my best to read through some of the recent posts in this very long thread.
I'm interested in possibly placing an order for NerD mx-mini keyboard parts; assembly will be done by me.
Some questions I have are concerning his work load. I can imagine making Ferrari-esque keyboards will take quite a long time, and I can easily see waiting months for the product, but how responsive is the web-store regarding just parts? I'm ordering PCB and electronic parts to go with it for a build.
Second is much more specific. I'm interested in the Acrylic Housing for the mx-mini, and the page states "This housing is not compatible with On-PCB(Top Side) Backlight LEDs of NerD mx-mini Ver2.0 PCB." Does anyone have any information about that statement and/or anything else about that housing they are willing to share?
More the better!
Thanks guys!
My first Gon order involved no assembly and still took around 2 months to be delivered. Which was fine by me, just letting you know.
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 23 August 2015, 12:14:12
I have trying my best to read through some of the recent posts in this very long thread.
I'm interested in possibly placing an order for NerD mx-mini keyboard parts; assembly will be done by me.
Some questions I have are concerning his work load. I can imagine making Ferrari-esque keyboards will take quite a long time, and I can easily see waiting months for the product, but how responsive is the web-store regarding just parts? I'm ordering PCB and electronic parts to go with it for a build.
Second is much more specific. I'm interested in the Acrylic Housing for the mx-mini, and the page states "This housing is not compatible with On-PCB(Top Side) Backlight LEDs of NerD mx-mini Ver2.0 PCB." Does anyone have any information about that statement and/or anything else about that housing they are willing to share?
More the better!
Thanks guys!
My first Gon order involved no assembly and still took around 2 months to be delivered. Which was fine by me, just letting you know.
When did you order?
Post by: chilldude_22 on Sun, 23 August 2015, 15:41:53
Post by: Ngt on Sun, 23 August 2015, 16:35:23
When did you order?
Early march. I just submitted another order last night of just a case and some parts, and he emailed me and said he should have it out in about 2 weeks, though.
WUT. **** I should have ordered ages ago ...
Post by: Sed8op8 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 05:20:21
I just got my Hyperfuse order in last night and was really excited to get it on my board(Gont tkl w/ergo clears). I had a gateron blank key set on my board and while gently taking off the key caps I noticed that the switch tops on some of the keys would come off with the cap :eek: this freaked me out as I always gently rock back and forth while removing caps especially on clears as I don't want to break a switch stem. I'm wondering if its because of how the switches are mounted on a gon ? Or maybe the keycaps were Just on really tight?
I have had a total of 5 boards with clears and this is the first time I have had this happen. I received these clears modded and lubed from gon with my board. Now the only way to take some of the caps off on the board is to use a small screw driver and hold the switch top down while removing the cap :eek: its a pain in the ass !!!
Has this happened to anyone else ? Especially anyone else that has received gons pre modded switches ? The feel on the switches is amazing I'm just very worried that every time I remove a key cap its going to weaken the tabs on the switch or damage the switch in some other way.
If anyone has experienced this before please drop me a line or post in this thread.
Thanks 8)
Sed8
P.s. here's a shot of my board with GMK Hyperfuse
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 25 August 2015, 05:42:09
The feel on the switches is amazing I'm just very worried that every time I remove a key cap its going to weaken the tabs on the switch or damage the switch in some other way.
If anyone has experienced this before please drop me a line or post in this thread.
If you have weak switch tops then simply apply some lube onto your Hyperfuse Cherry MX stems before inserting them into position that way later on you can easily remove them without ripping off your switch tops.
It happens with certain CherryMX switches when using certain faulty batches of manufactured SP keys, that had ultra tight fitment.
Post by: Sed8op8 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 06:08:55
thanks Elrick !!! I have OCD so if something is even a little off with something it drives me freaking nuts :eek: I guess I'm just looking for someone to say it will be alright :))The feel on the switches is amazing I'm just very worried that every time I remove a key cap its going to weaken the tabs on the switch or damage the switch in some other way.
If anyone has experienced this before please drop me a line or post in this thread.
If you have weak switch tops then simply apply some lube onto your Hyperfuse Cherry MX stems before inserting them into position that way later on you can easily remove them without ripping off your switch tops.
It happens with certain CherryMX switches when using certain faulty batches of manufactured SP keys, that had ultra tight fitment.
Post by: chilldude_22 on Tue, 25 August 2015, 07:32:28
Beautiful board, by the way!
Post by: yobinad on Tue, 25 August 2015, 07:34:27
I have moded clears by GON and don't have those issues when removing caps. Maybe your caps stem is too tight.
Post by: Protoype on Mon, 07 September 2015, 18:10:08
What is the current lead time when just ording parts from Gon? Was just after a NerD60 PCB / Plate and Diodes?
Also does the NerD60 support RGB leds?
Kind regards.
Post by: litesung on Tue, 08 September 2015, 01:54:08
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/60-nerd-tkl-ver20-pcb.html
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/150-nerd-tkl-ver20-pcb-w-full-smt.html
Will you be supplying Zealios switches as an option in the future?
Post by: Evo_Spec on Tue, 08 September 2015, 09:11:31
Hello, what's the difference between the Nerd TKL Ver2.0 PCB w/Full SMT and the regular version?
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/60-nerd-tkl-ver20-pcb.html
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-controllers/150-nerd-tkl-ver20-pcb-w-full-smt.html
Will you be supplying Zealios switches as an option in the future?
(http://puu.sh/k4cog/496e1a8c16.png)
Nerd TKL Ver2.0 PCB w/Full SMT comes with full SMT pre-soldered.
Also this is written,
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This special offer product will go into production in Jan and will be shipped in late Jan or in Feb.I wouldn't expect it till march. if it comes early then great, if not then don't sweat it. It'll come.
Post by: chilldude_22 on Tue, 08 September 2015, 10:50:27
Hi,
What is the current lead time when just ording parts from Gon? Was just after a NerD60 PCB / Plate and Diodes?
Also does the NerD60 support RGB leds?
Kind regards.
I can't speak for Gon, but I just ordered a case + a bunch of feet/screws + NerD60 PCB and I got my shipment in about two weeks.
The NerD PCBs don't support controllable RGB LEDs.
Post by: catdogpaw on Sun, 13 September 2015, 20:13:01
If I reboot with the keyboard plugged in, the computer boots into safe mode and then all the keys work correctly. It keeps working until I keep the computer in safe mode. If I restart into normal mode, keyboard lapses into weird behavior once again. Fixed when re-rebooted into safe mode.
In sum, works only when mac is in safe mode.
Is this a known problem? Any way to fix this at all? Any help would be appreciated!
Post by: yobinad on Mon, 14 September 2015, 04:30:01
Does yours work on a windows machine?
Post by: catdogpaw on Mon, 14 September 2015, 14:29:26
I have a NerD60 connected to my iMac and it works fine.
Does yours work on a windows machine?
Thanks. I just checked on a windows machine (took some doing to find one) and it works fine after the driver downloads etc (I am somewhat ignorant about windows OS post win2k or so). I also flashed the firmware on the keyboard while I was at it (showed "success") but still not working correctly on my mba. :(
Post by: litesung on Mon, 14 September 2015, 18:26:56
Post by: chilldude_22 on Tue, 15 September 2015, 08:08:04
Gon, do you plan to support zealios switches in the future and rgb led programming?
Gon hasn't posted on GH since January. You could order a PCB with diodes and resistors pre-soldered, then solder the Zealio switches yourself. It's really very simple. Assembling your own board is more fun anyway, and your order will get to you much more quickly.
Post by: beckshl on Thu, 17 September 2015, 21:45:06
Post by: pichu23 on Fri, 18 September 2015, 06:46:12
Gon, do you plan to support zealios switches in the future and rgb led programming?
Gon hasn't posted on GH since January. You could order a PCB with diodes and resistors pre-soldered, then solder the Zealio switches yourself. It's really very simple. Assembling your own board is more fun anyway, and your order will get to you much more quickly.
I guess what he meant was if it will supp the 4 pin RGB leds.
So far, the current pcb doesn't. Who knows, if GON will release a revised one in the future but that's a long shot for now.
He's so so busy. :'(
Post by: beckshl on Sun, 20 September 2015, 09:52:38
Quote
Hi,
I think I need to visit GH... but I'm afraid I don't have enough time to answer all the questions there....
It will take so much time and will take me time to complete assembly orders....
I'm trying my best to spare time to finish assembly....
38GT PCB does not officially support Side LEDs.
I once assembled 38GT /w side LEDs... but they are not perfect as NerD 60....
Thanks,
GON
GON just replied me that. So dont worry, we will receive our stuff soon
Post by: bocahgundul on Sat, 03 October 2015, 07:18:12
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 04 October 2015, 00:00:08
Ns nerd tkl pcb mounted or plate mounted?
Both switch types are compatible but it is plate mounted... (the PCB will have cut outs for PCB mount switches).
Post by: GL1TCH3D on Tue, 13 October 2015, 10:53:23
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 13 October 2015, 12:31:31
Is there a way to make the FN keys not lock on double tap? Basically only if I'm holding it
yes, look for Fn1/2 (No Lock)
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 13 October 2015, 12:32:42
Is there a way to make the FN keys not lock on double tap? Basically only if I'm holding it
yes, look for Fn1/2 (No Lock)
I think he just desire it not no lock when double tapping, I find it a bit annoying too.
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 13 October 2015, 12:34:15
Is there a way to make the FN keys not lock on double tap? Basically only if I'm holding it
yes, look for Fn1/2 (No Lock)
I think he just desire it not no lock when double tapping, I find it a bit annoying too.
Yeah... there's an option for a Non locking FN key it's literally called "FN1 No Lock"
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 13 October 2015, 12:41:17
Is there a way to make the FN keys not lock on double tap? Basically only if I'm holding it
yes, look for Fn1/2 (No Lock)
I think he just desire it not no lock when double tapping, I find it a bit annoying too.
Yeah... there's an option for a Non locking FN key it's literally called "FN1 No Lock"
Tested, it works.
Always though this key was to unlock the fn locking.
TIL.
Post by: chilldude_22 on Fri, 16 October 2015, 08:53:51
Post by: Evo_Spec on Fri, 16 October 2015, 09:43:15
Switched my LED colors (I have SIP sockets installed) and the LEDs on my bottom-row mods aren't working anymore. Anybody got an idea?
Sry to ask the obvious question but did you check the polarity?
Post by: chilldude_22 on Fri, 16 October 2015, 09:59:56
Switched my LED colors (I have SIP sockets installed) and the LEDs on my bottom-row mods aren't working anymore. Anybody got an idea?
Sry to ask the obvious question but did you check the polarity?
Yeah, they were working prior to when I switched the LEDs. To be clear, I only switched the LEDs on the alphas.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 16 October 2015, 10:59:42
Switched my LED colors (I have SIP sockets installed) and the LEDs on my bottom-row mods aren't working anymore. Anybody got an idea?
Sry to ask the obvious question but did you check the polarity?
Yeah, they were working prior to when I switched the LEDs. To be clear, I only switched the LEDs on the alphas.
What color were the old ones and what color were the new ones? Different colors of LED's sometimes require different voltages.
Post by: chilldude_22 on Fri, 16 October 2015, 11:31:50
Switched my LED colors (I have SIP sockets installed) and the LEDs on my bottom-row mods aren't working anymore. Anybody got an idea?
Sry to ask the obvious question but did you check the polarity?
Yeah, they were working prior to when I switched the LEDs. To be clear, I only switched the LEDs on the alphas.
What color were the old ones and what color were the new ones? Different colors of LED's sometimes require different voltages.
Thought of that too, weird that only a few would quit working though. Old ones were white, new ones are a sort of Cyan.
Post by: girds on Fri, 16 October 2015, 18:33:59
also with the side led's can you mix colours so they form a different tone of colour and brightness?. Would love to mix either white/blue, white/red or white/purple to give it a brighter cleaner colour or would it just turn out looking patchy around keyboard?
Post by: Sifo on Sun, 18 October 2015, 01:00:35
what is the preferred option for tuning of the springs on the cherry brown? i was thinking of just going the stock spring but getting it lubricated and stickered.
also with the side led's can you mix colours so they form a different tone of colour and brightness?. Would love to mix either white/blue, white/red or white/purple to give it a brighter cleaner colour or would it just turn out looking patchy around keyboard?
Probably stock springs. 62g works too... but for browns typically people run stock.
Also I never thought of doing that smd thing but I don't think it would diffuse well and would probably be patchy, at least if you plan to alternate them.
Post by: chilldude_22 on Thu, 22 October 2015, 23:13:07
Post by: bocahgundul on Fri, 23 October 2015, 02:53:50
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 23 October 2015, 16:36:20
In case anybody was curious, solved my issue... I'm using a WKL layout, so the + and - are reversed. Just needed to flip the LEDs around.
Ah, the age-old polarity problem strikes again! Glad you exorcised it.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 23 October 2015, 16:37:04
Post by: E3E on Fri, 23 October 2015, 16:47:28
Hey does anyone know if GON's Bluetooth module works with the CtrlAlt60 pcb?
Heya HPS,
From what I understand after PMing Bunny, the CTRL ALT branded NERD 60 PCB is an earlier revision. It doesn't support bluetooth, unfortunately. :(
Post by: Sissy on Sat, 14 November 2015, 00:08:05
Should go for the Optional Soldering on the PCB? should I get one of those Universal Frame/Plate for 60%?
last thing is I have no idea about the lighting options with the Electric Parts,, I am unsure what to order and how many should be purchased of everything. I would like every lighting option available to be used
Post by: limster on Sat, 14 November 2015, 01:27:48
I am fairly new to this sort of thing and a bit unsure what to order for the NerD 60 after the NerD 60 Ver2.0 PCB and the GON NS NerD 60 case and the switches and Stabilizers.
Should go for the Optional Soldering on the PCB? should I get one of those Universal Frame/Plate for 60%?
last thing is I have no idea about the lighting options with the Electric Parts,, I am unsure what to order and how many should be purchased of everything. I would like every lighting option available to be used
Gon has a rundown of what you'll need. (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/144-parts-needed-for-kbd-assembly.html)
• The optional soldering is for stuff that will make the back (underside) and/or side lights work. -if you are committed to lighting everything, things will need to be soldered. I would add the soldering, unless you are a soldering badass (watch a video on surface mount diode soldering, that is what Gon would be doing for you)
• lighting the back (underside) I believe, (someone else please confirm) is only visible if you have the 'Crystal' NS housing.
• i didn't get light with my kb, so i'm not sure how many total LEDs you can install, but it seems like you'll need a matching set of resistors for what ever led lighting you choose.
• the frame/plate is for pairing with your pcb and installing it onto some other 60% case (i.e., Tex aluminum or acrylic), so you won't need it because you are already set on putting it in a GON housing.
If you're gonna go all the way with putting it in a GON case with lighting, and you are not a soldering expert, you may want to consider just buying it assembled. If you have no soldering experience (but wanted to learn) the SMD lighting part may be a bit too much for a beginner.
Post by: Dog on Sat, 14 November 2015, 14:33:06
Post by: Karura on Sun, 15 November 2015, 05:59:48
Also, does anyone know what is the degree of GON's TKL slant?
Post by: heedpantsnow on Mon, 16 November 2015, 12:38:04
I just assembled my Nerd 60 with the additional bluetooth module. I got it recognized by my mac, and all the LEDs work. When I turn on the battery, everything works fine. However when I try to use it wired the keyboard keeps powering on and off. Any ideas?
I was under the impression that the USB is for charging only, not for using. I am not an expert, but I am going to get the kit and I thought I remembered seeing that in my research.
Hi, does anyone know what is the thread/screw specs for GON's aluminum feet? I am looking to put them on one of my keyboards, and need to know the right specs.
Also, does anyone know what is the degree of GON's TKL slant?
Someone confirmed this a while ago that it is
Guys, I'm sorry for the following double posts; I think my computer/internet/me is drunk.
Mod Edit: Can confirm; everyone is drunk
Post by: pichu23 on Wed, 18 November 2015, 02:48:44
I am fairly new to this sort of thing and a bit unsure what to order for the NerD 60 after the NerD 60 Ver2.0 PCB and the GON NS NerD 60 case and the switches and Stabilizers.
Should go for the Optional Soldering on the PCB? should I get one of those Universal Frame/Plate for 60%?
last thing is I have no idea about the lighting options with the Electric Parts,, I am unsure what to order and how many should be purchased of everything. I would like every lighting option available to be used
Gon has a rundown of what you'll need. (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/144-parts-needed-for-kbd-assembly.html)
• The optional soldering is for stuff that will make the back (underside) and/or side lights work. -if you are committed to lighting everything, things will need to be soldered. I would add the soldering, unless you are a soldering badass (watch a video on surface mount diode soldering, that is what Gon would be doing for you)
• lighting the back (underside) I believe, (someone else please confirm) is only visible if you have the 'Crystal' NS housing.
• i didn't get light with my kb, so i'm not sure how many total LEDs you can install, but it seems like you'll need a matching set of resistors for what ever led lighting you choose.
• the frame/plate is for pairing with your pcb and installing it onto some other 60% case (i.e., Tex aluminum or acrylic), so you won't need it because you are already set on putting it in a GON housing.
If you're gonna go all the way with putting it in a GON case with lighting, and you are not a soldering expert, you may want to consider just buying it assembled. If you have no soldering experience (but wanted to learn) the SMD lighting part may be a bit too much for a beginner.
I have an acrylic housing and it works as well.
And I guess when you mean underneath, you actually meant side leds? :)
Post by: limster on Tue, 02 February 2016, 10:49:54
Post by: chilldude_22 on Tue, 02 February 2016, 11:43:32
Does anyone know what type of LED is used for the (Capslock) indicator light, or if there is a resistor you need to solder with it?
I've always used a standard 3mm. Don't think a resistor is 100% necessary
Post by: iss on Wed, 03 February 2016, 19:05:11
Post by: E3E on Wed, 03 February 2016, 20:06:16
How fast does GON ship parts? Just looking to buy some stabilizers and aluminum feet.
Well, he does sell them on his store, so I'd imagine so.
Post by: chilldude_22 on Thu, 04 February 2016, 10:28:48
How fast does GON ship parts? Just looking to buy some stabilizers and aluminum feet.
As far as I know the aluminum feet are made to order. So you're still looking at a little lead time. However my last 2 orders have only taken a week
Post by: iss on Thu, 04 February 2016, 17:53:01
How fast does GON ship parts? Just looking to buy some stabilizers and aluminum feet.
Well, he does sell them on his store, so I'd imagine so.
Yeah, I understand that- just wanted to check if they'd see keyboard-like delays.
How fast does GON ship parts? Just looking to buy some stabilizers and aluminum feet.
As far as I know the aluminum feet are made to order. So you're still looking at a little lead time. However my last 2 orders have only taken a week
Thanks!
Post by: GoatMaster on Tue, 23 February 2016, 06:16:59
I can not find this case on the site:
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43894.0;attach=23165;image)
Can anyone help me to find it ?
Post by: chilldude_22 on Tue, 23 February 2016, 10:56:33
I need help.
I can not find this case on the site:Show Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43894.0;attach=23165;image)
Can anyone help me to find it ?
Looks like the standard NS Nerd 60 case in glossy silver.
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/105-gon-ns-nerd-60-housing-only.html (http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/housings-and-related-parts/105-gon-ns-nerd-60-housing-only.html)
Post by: appleonama on Fri, 26 February 2016, 04:21:06
can these be used ? might be useful to solder an rgb strip
Post by: appleonama on Fri, 26 February 2016, 14:38:37
Post by: henz on Tue, 01 March 2016, 12:09:39
anyone?
First and foremost these are for avr programming, bootloader and firmware. But you can use power for the led strip,(I think)
Post by: phosphoric on Tue, 22 March 2016, 13:44:02
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Gp7HfLX.jpg)
can these be used ? might be useful to solder an rgb strip
if you try this, can you post about it? thanks
Post by: GoatMaster on Fri, 29 April 2016, 04:37:51
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 29 April 2016, 06:34:50
Is it possible with the NERD60 that I only turn on the led under the ESC key when I have installed led's on all switches ?
I don't believe it's possible with the firmware.
Post by: Stabilized on Thu, 12 May 2016, 14:41:22
Post by: GiveCandyy on Fri, 13 May 2016, 05:44:16
Does anyone know if the on-board SMD LEDs are the same as the ones used for the side LEDs? If they are, should I use the same resistor values?
on board smd leds? you mean the ones on the top side of the pcb? if so, they do work and yes same resistor values.
Post by: Stabilized on Fri, 13 May 2016, 06:05:14
Does anyone know if the on-board SMD LEDs are the same as the ones used for the side LEDs? If they are, should I use the same resistor values?
on board smd leds? you mean the ones on the top side of the pcb? if so, they do work and yes same resistor values.
Yeah those are the ones. Great thanks a lot for the info! :thumb:
Post by: GiveCandyy on Fri, 13 May 2016, 06:11:17
Does anyone know if the on-board SMD LEDs are the same as the ones used for the side LEDs? If they are, should I use the same resistor values?
on board smd leds? you mean the ones on the top side of the pcb? if so, they do work and yes same resistor values.
Yeah those are the ones. Great thanks a lot for the info! :thumb:
here's a picture, good luck with your build :thumb:
be sure to send me a picture ;D
Post by: GoatMaster on Sat, 28 May 2016, 04:35:14
The links on the website are dead ... http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/110-nerdy-gui.html
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 28 May 2016, 04:45:32
Need another download link to the Nerd GUI.
The links on the website are dead ... http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/110-nerdy-gui.html
Strange they're working for me...
Here's a mirror: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qaac2ewpciis808/NerDy%20GUI%201.6.zip?dl=0
Post by: GoatMaster on Sat, 28 May 2016, 09:45:14
Need another download link to the Nerd GUI.
The links on the website are dead ... http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/manuals/110-nerdy-gui.html
Strange they're working for me...
Here's a mirror: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qaac2ewpciis808/NerDy%20GUI%201.6.zip?dl=0
Thank you also working for me now.
Another question:
Is it possible to add ä, ö, ü with the software to the fn layer ?
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 28 May 2016, 10:03:47
Is it possible to add ä, ö, ü with the software to the fn layer ?Depends on how you want to do that. I wanted to do something similar, but it would involve a major pain in the butt if you want to keep it based on the ansi layout, but still have iso-de as the standard layout the OS uses.
You could set up macro keys that just type the corresponding alt codes as an easy alternative.
I'm not familiar with the possibilities of this PCB or software, my answer is based on machine limitations.
Post by: GoatMaster on Sat, 28 May 2016, 10:24:22
Is it possible to add ä, ö, ü with the software to the fn layer ?Depends on how you want to do that. I wanted to do something similar, but it would involve a major pain in the butt if you want to keep it based on the ansi layout, but still have iso-de as the standard layout the OS uses.
You could set up macro keys that just type the corresponding alt codes as an easy alternative.
I'm not familiar with the possibilities of this PCB or software, my answer is based on machine limitations.
Just want to add ä, ö, ü to the FN Layer.
Maybe anyone else nows if this is possible.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 28 May 2016, 11:05:29
I'll just write down which ansi signals you would need to trigger a ä, ü and ö output if the OS is set to german layout (you cannot trigger a native ä,ü or ö without using german layout in your OS):
ansi= ' triggers a ä output
ansi= [ triggers a ü output
ansi= ; triggers a ö output
Post by: GoatMaster on Sun, 29 May 2016, 05:58:44
You would have to set your input layout in your OS to iso-de to have native äüö support.
I'll just write down which ansi signals you would need to trigger a ä, ü and ö output if the OS is set to german layout (you cannot trigger a native ä,ü or ö without using german layout in your OS):
ansi= ' triggers a ä output
ansi= [ triggers a ü output
ansi= ; triggers a ö output
Okay, thank you. So I still have to use my autohotkey script.
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 29 May 2016, 10:43:36
So I still have to use my autohotkey script.
If you are able to set up a macro in the programming software you could set them up to the according alt-codes. That way those outputs would not be machine dependant but saved on the board.
Alt+132=ä ; Alt+129=ü ; Alt+148=ö ; Alt+142=Ä ; Alt+154=Ü ; Alt+153=Ö
Post by: mad_eyes on Wed, 20 July 2016, 16:06:48
Post by: DanielT on Wed, 20 July 2016, 23:24:46
Post by: mad_eyes on Thu, 21 July 2016, 01:16:40
Straight on the PCB is perfect, no need for raisers or SIP.
Perfect. Thanks.
Post by: heedpantsnow on Fri, 19 August 2016, 16:57:51
Are there any other thoughts/instructions/best practices for working with this? Installation? Pairing? Status LED's? Thanks.
Post by: infiniti on Tue, 29 August 2017, 02:08:52
Kindly continue discussion in the Feedback Thread for GON's KeyboardWorks: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83542.0