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Title: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy October 10th - November 10th, 2022!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Sat, 18 September 2021, 11:00:03

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GB DATE: October 10th, 2022 - November 10th, 2022

Previously, the set had been delayed, but we have now received confirmation from zFrontier/Keyreative that October 10th will be the GB date!

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INTEREST CHECK FORM: https://forms.gle/FeofDiSYcRs3vwzx5 (https://forms.gle/FeofDiSYcRs3vwzx5)

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Hello fellow keeb enthusiasts! Straight from the realms of my overworked, sleep deprived grad student brain, I want to finally introduce you to a keycap set I have been working on all year, called KAMistry. KAMistry aims to bring elements (pun fully intended) of chemistry (and biology) into your keeb. The four main colors of the set (teal, light blue, light grey, and dark grey) were inspired by my repeated trips to my lab’s trusty -80 freezer. Because you can’t tell me you haven’t just looked at a freezer before and thought to yourself “Damn, that’s a nice looking freezer.” Complete with a grey face and a bright blue LED screen graced with a teal bezel, this gargantuan freezing lab companion was just begging to be used as an inspiration for pieces of matte PBT plastic.

As the name implies, this set will be in KAM profile. For those that are not familiar with the KAM profile, here is a diagram for you compared to KAT and Cherry. You can compare other profiles to it as well here: https://www.keycaps.info/stack

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I have done my best to ensure the colors look accurate to the Pantones. However, do keep in mind that color can vary depending on the screen that it is viewed on. The best way to see what a color will look like as the end product is to check the pantone code in a physical guide. Samples will be ordered for comparison to those pantones!

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Kits

As always, kitting is subject to change following the interest check phase.

Alphas

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Alphas - Periodic

(https://imgur.com/0tv8rxQ.png)

Homing

(https://i.imgur.com/Jm2MI0n.png)

Homing - Periodic

(https://i.imgur.com/64g0Fk5.png)

Text mods

(https://imgur.com/LVBUjjB.png)

Icon mods

(https://imgur.com/Z2cHNgB.png)

Numpad

(https://imgur.com/7Kil2NR.png)

Numpad - Alternative

(https://imgur.com/VSj7X5j.png)

Novelties

(https://imgur.com/TE3joY3.png)

Novelties - text

(https://imgur.com/eWjWIxk.png)

Spacebars

(https://imgur.com/h9uy9G1.png)

40s text

(https://imgur.com/8FghasA.png)

40s icon

(https://imgur.com/0xu2TnK.png)

QAZ text

(https://imgur.com/hGF2k1z.png)

QAZ icon

(https://imgur.com/ikzf4GV.png)

Ergo text

(https://imgur.com/Hw6Rk8X.png)

Ergo icon

(https://imgur.com/q1PWO96.png)

Maroon accent

(https://imgur.com/WiuuXJI.png)

Orange accent

(https://imgur.com/VGScEra.png)

Grey accent

(https://imgur.com/pv3MjGL.png)

Blue accent

(https://imgur.com/w4JD3j3.png)

NorDe

(https://imgur.com/Vzv5pIX.png)

German

(https://imgur.com/FPO16cw.png)

UK

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French

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Deskmats

Two deskmats will be made for this set, both of which have been designed by myself.

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Artisans

Archetype

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KeyBee Manufacturing aluminum enter artisan

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Rocket Keyboards Glow-Ion-The-Dark escape artisan

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NZ Caps rotary encoder knob

Straight from the lab of the evil incredibly kind geniuses at NZ caps, I bring you your KAMistry rotary encoder knob, available for purchase through the NZ caps store during the GB period!

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Keyboard renders

Argon40 by TheBlackHammer

(https://i.imgur.com/wB0WTl0.jpeg)

QAZ by tominabox1

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Zodiark by Split Logic Keyboards

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Twoyo by rainkeebs

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Watarah by Glow

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MB44 by MelonBred

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Paintbrush by Yung Zeus

(https://imgur.com/FhljIeR.png)

Ikki68 Aurora by Wuque Studio

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Mode SixtyFive by Mode Designs

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Ilex by FFKeebs

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Isometria by ebastler

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Fuji65 by CMM Studio

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M60-A by Rama Works

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Vendors

US – Rocket Keyboards
CA - AshKeebs
EU – MyKeyboard
UK – Protozoa
Asia - zFrontier
OCE – Daily Clack
SEA - PantheonKeys
Japan - Yushakobo
Mexico - Rheset
India - rectangles.store

Digital Carpentry wrist rest collab!

KAMistry has teamed up with the amazing Digital Carpentry to design a professional, wooden, science-themed wrist rest. Samples are below! I decided to go with the benzene ring icon for mine, but you will have an option of a couple icons, including the benzene ring and atom novelty, along with an option of walnut or maple. Even cooler, you'll have options on size of the wrist rest and where you want the icon! For this sample, I wanted the hexane ring to always be visible, even when typing (top image).

(https://imgur.com/Vy8Dzyz.png)

The following design will be a third option available. No, it's not an actual element, but it looks darn good as one if I do say so myself.

(https://i.imgur.com/v33Ap7W.png)

Follow this project!

Forget needing a paid subscription to a journal. For once in science, you can get the latest updates for free! Join my NA vendor’s discord to follow updates of KAMistry.

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https://discord.gg/jgPutxzzpv

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While I may not have done something spectacular enough to receive the Nobel Prize, I do feel as though I need to thank some people for help with creating this set. So, like any good scientific paper, I would like to acknowledge the following for their help and support:

The entire PDXKBC discord. There are too many of y’all there who helped me, so I can’t list all of you unfortunately, but you have been the driving force behind this set coming to fruition.
SJ for his case file and for bouncing ideas off of.
Nathan (of GMK Iceberg fame) for answering my dumb questions about rendering.
Cadvahn for doing post-processing edits on the renders for color accuracy.
GentleBear for making materials for me in blender. He isn’t a keyboard nerd like us (yet) so I’m not sure he’ll ever see this, but his help was invaluable.
ThiccWicc for helping me with all aspects of making this set.
And of course RocketCables for answering my questions and putting up with me as I slowly figure this process out.

To-do list

Select and announce vendors
Announce wrist rest collab
Add second deskmat option
Add more renders, especially of the periodic alphas kit
Announce artisans and artisan collabs
Announce GB date
Announce pricing
Group Buy!!!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Sat, 18 September 2021, 11:02:47

Nice name, >.> Glwic

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: Neely_12 on Sat, 18 September 2021, 11:07:36

The periodic alphas are super cool. The accents are also very nice. Good luck!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: KneeDeep on Sat, 18 September 2021, 11:31:48

Fine, take my valence electrons.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: mydens on Sat, 18 September 2021, 11:36:01

Need sublegends for the "Alphas - Periodic" number keys > ~ ! @ # $ % ^ & *  ( ) _ +

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: firstworldproblems on Sat, 18 September 2021, 11:36:54

My wallet is ready to be oxidized!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Sat, 18 September 2021, 11:39:11

Quote from: mydens on Sat, 18 September 2021, 11:36:01

Need sublegends for the "Alphas - Periodic" number keys > ~ ! @ # $ % ^ & *  ( ) _ +

Someone else has mentioned this as well in the IC form. I will see what I can do with that. The icons there sort of make that difficult but I appreciate the suggestion!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: mydens on Sat, 18 September 2021, 11:43:58

Quote from: NintendoNoNo on Sat, 18 September 2021, 11:39:11

Quote from: mydens on Sat, 18 September 2021, 11:36:01

Need sublegends for the "Alphas - Periodic" number keys > ~ ! @ # $ % ^ & *  ( ) _ +

Someone else has mentioned this as well in the IC form. I will see what I can do with that. The icons there sort of make that difficult but I appreciate the suggestion!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: TyPo.mk on Sat, 18 September 2021, 12:08:13

I know you’ve put a ton of work into this! Good luck with IC,
As a biochemist I love the theme

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: rooski15 on Sat, 18 September 2021, 12:51:10

Long time coming, very excited for this! Great work, man.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: Runningtarrens on Sat, 18 September 2021, 15:45:16

looks really good.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: Kokaloo on Sat, 18 September 2021, 15:50:09

More KAM is nice to see. Is this going to be using the shiny or matte finish?

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Sat, 18 September 2021, 17:33:39

Quote from: Kokaloo on Sat, 18 September 2021, 15:50:09

More KAM is nice to see. Is this going to be using the shiny or matte finish?

It will be matte

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: Parva Ovis on Sat, 18 September 2021, 22:52:50

Chemistry themed novelty text on the 40s and Ergo Text kits would be great and would lower the number of keys needed in each kit.

Sublegends on the periodic alpha kit will probably ruin the look.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Sun, 19 September 2021, 14:53:18

Quote from: TyPo.mk on Sat, 18 September 2021, 12:08:13

I know you’ve put a ton of work into this! Good luck with IC,
As a biochemist I love the theme

Thanks man, I appreciate it! Lmk if you catch any chemistry mistakes in my compounds on the deskmat haha

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: Klackygears on Mon, 20 September 2021, 10:16:34

Wow, I really like the looks of this set, the colors, the novelties, the periodic alphas are all so great!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: ravenousrhino on Mon, 20 September 2021, 14:20:36

As a physicist I hate this (but I secretly love it)

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Mon, 20 September 2021, 22:06:04

Quote from: Runningtarrens on Sat, 18 September 2021, 15:45:16

looks really good.

Thanks! Glad you like it.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: William_S_Jones on Tue, 21 September 2021, 00:07:31

I'm loving this, thanks for the 40 support, & looking forward to it!

Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 21 September 2021, 00:46:26

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Tue, 21 September 2021, 00:07:31

I'm loving this, thanks for the 40 support, & looking forward to it!

Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk

So glad you're liking it! I plan on having more 40s renders in the next update. Some of my favorite boards are 40s so I definitely want to show them more love.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: William_S_Jones on Tue, 21 September 2021, 00:50:20

Quote from: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 21 September 2021, 00:46:26

Quote from: William_S_Jones on Tue, 21 September 2021, 00:07:31

I'm loving this, thanks for the 40 support, & looking forward to it!

Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk

So glad you're liking it! I plan on having more 40s renders in the next update. Some of my favorite boards are 40s so I definitely want to show them more love.

Thanks, appreciate it; all I own are 40% to 50% MKBs;  I hope more designers give 40s their due!

Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: HappyB0T on Tue, 21 September 2021, 00:53:26

Checking IC ... colors are fine .. checking IC ... lots of KAM kitting - thats totally normal ... checking IC ... Novelties match theme - mmmmok ... checking IC... accent kits are pretty interesting - whatever ... checking IC.... QAZ Kit?!

**** - uh that is pretty awesome. Any set that straight up convinces me to 3d print a board and nab a PCB is fun times. Saw Elmo's QEZ PCB and open source project and now I am over here scheming.

Really solid set - lots of cool things to check out.
It would be cool to see a QAZ render - since most images of QAZ just have mods instead of Alphas. I can use my imagination but it might be fun for others to see.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 21 September 2021, 01:09:51

Quote from: HappyB0T on Tue, 21 September 2021, 00:53:26

Checking IC ... colors are fine .. checking IC ... lots of KAM kitting - thats totally normal ... checking IC ... Novelties match theme - mmmmok ... checking IC... accent kits are pretty interesting - whatever ... checking IC.... QAZ Kit?!

**** - uh that is pretty awesome. Any set that straight up convinces me to 3d print a board and nab a PCB is fun times. Saw Elmo's QEZ PCB and open source project and now I am over here scheming.

Really solid set - lots of cool things to check out.
It would be cool to see a QAZ render - since most images of QAZ just have mods instead of Alphas.

Totally agree! I have been working on a QAZ render for quite some time, just trying to get the lighting better in it, but one will definitely be up in the near future.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: fortaye on Thu, 23 September 2021, 00:02:50

This is looking to be like a great set! Love the 40's love. Love the colorway. Love the theme.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Sat, 25 September 2021, 23:23:01

Quote from: fortaye on Thu, 23 September 2021, 00:02:50

This is looking to be like a great set! Love the 40's love. Love the colorway. Love the theme.

Thanks so much! Gotta give more 40s love in the future too :D

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: _rubik on Sat, 25 September 2021, 23:45:56

I'm always astounded with how fine you can make legends on KAM sets. Maybe I've been brainwashed by double-shot caps, but holy smokes those periodic legends are small.

Lots of interesting quirks with this set  :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Mon, 04 October 2021, 00:13:08

Quote from: _rubik on Sat, 25 September 2021, 23:45:56

I'm always astounded with how fine you can make legends on KAM sets. Maybe I've been brainwashed by double-shot caps, but holy smokes those periodic legends are small.

Lots of interesting quirks with this set  :thumb:

I still need to get samples of these to make sure that they're legible, but I have been told by Keyreative that fine lines should work fine, so fingers crossed!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: NibbledPots on Thu, 21 October 2021, 15:17:10

I absolutely adore the Periodic Alphas, and the Alternative Numpad is so clever!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: Serious salamander on Thu, 21 October 2021, 17:47:41

If only we had an element that had a Q as part of its abbreviation. I was curious so I looked it up and apparently Jod is the german word for the element iodine.

As a biochemist, I feel as though I must buy this set, looking forward to how it turns out!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Fri, 22 October 2021, 18:59:24

Quote from: Serious salamander on Thu, 21 October 2021, 17:47:41

If only we had an element that had a Q as part of its abbreviation. I was curious so I looked it up and apparently Jod is the german word for the element iodine.

As a biochemist, I feel as though I must buy this set, looking forward to how it turns out!

Yep! Thats why Jodium is used for the J key :)

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: zehnsechs on Sun, 14 November 2021, 15:53:45

This looks great, but please do not add sublegends to the periodic numbers - it would ruin them

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: Klackygears on Sun, 14 November 2021, 21:02:43

This is such a cool set! The colors are great and I love the periodic alphas and the novelties!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: glibber on Sun, 21 November 2021, 12:53:45

Looks very cool, I'm just a bit confused by the inclusion of both a NorDe and a German set. Is the NorDe set intended for German/other Nordic ANSI layouts?

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: turkishmeow on Mon, 29 November 2021, 00:55:50

I need this to finish my chem major :)
glwic!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: dvorcol on Sat, 04 December 2021, 19:55:05

It's great to see there will be a homing kit.  Please consider adding middle finger homing for QWERTY.

(https://i.postimg.cc/FmV75jmg/Homing-Plus211126.png)

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: Mecxs on Sat, 04 December 2021, 21:46:20

Quote from: turkishmeow on Mon, 29 November 2021, 00:55:50

I need this to finish my chem major :)
glwic!

Unfortunately with Keyreative leadtimes, if you've already started your Chem major there's a good chance you'll finish it before these caps ship =(

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Vendors announced!!!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 07 December 2021, 02:39:07

Update - Announced vendors

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 07 December 2021, 15:25:51

Quote from: dvorcol on Sat, 04 December 2021, 19:55:05

It's great to see there will be a homing kit.  Please consider adding middle finger homing for QWERTY.

Show Image

(https://i.postimg.cc/FmV75jmg/Homing-Plus211126.png)

Interesting, I've never heard of this. Do people just use one homing bar per hand or do they use both?

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry
Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 08 December 2021, 03:21:26

Quote from: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 07 December 2021, 15:25:51

Quote from: dvorcol on Sat, 04 December 2021, 19:55:05

It's great to see there will be a homing kit.  Please consider adding middle finger homing for QWERTY.

Show Image

(https://i.postimg.cc/FmV75jmg/Homing-Plus211126.png)

Interesting, I've never heard of this. Do people just use one homing bar per hand or do they use both?

Usually just one per hand, although I have seen a few sets that offer a QWERTY homing kit with six keys, leaving only G and H as non-homing.

Middle finger homing was an Apple thing many years ago.  I find I can feel the homing keys better with my middle fingers since that’s the longest finger so it has the highest finger tip pressure.  Also, since it doesn’t have to cover as many keys, it’s a good anchor.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Vendors announced!!!
Post by: devpm on Wed, 08 December 2021, 04:40:30

I have one thing to say... AZERTY pleeeeeease.  :D

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Vendors announced!!!
Post by: turkishmeow on Mon, 13 December 2021, 00:18:31

Quote from: Mecxs on Sat, 04 December 2021, 21:46:20

Quote from: turkishmeow on Mon, 29 November 2021, 00:55:50

I need this to finish my chem major :)
glwic!

Unfortunately with Keyreative leadtimes, if you've already started your Chem major there's a good chance you'll finish it before these caps ship =(

I hate that this is true  :( I'll display this kit with my diploma

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Vendors announced!!!
Post by: LightenS on Mon, 13 December 2021, 14:03:51

How about homing keys for the Periodic alpha?

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Vendors announced!!!
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 14 December 2021, 02:17:43

Quote from: LightenS on Mon, 13 December 2021, 14:03:51

How about homing keys for the Periodic alpha?

I second that.  Two homing kits.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Vendors announced!!!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 21 December 2021, 21:50:31

Quote from: LightenS on Mon, 13 December 2021, 14:03:51

How about homing keys for the Periodic alpha?

That is certainly possible and likely will be an option! Thanks for the input.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Vendors announced!!!
Post by: OhKeycaps on Wed, 22 December 2021, 00:14:22

I want a set with only that orange. It's dope

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Vendors announced!!!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Wed, 22 December 2021, 01:33:08

Quote from: OhKeycaps on Wed, 22 December 2021, 00:14:22

I want a set with only that orange. It's dope

Agreed! It was originally much brighter in color, but contrasted too much with the blue so I found a darker shade and love it. I know there are orange keycap sets out there, but I haven't seen one in this shade.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: Digital Carpentry wrist rest collab, with samples!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Mon, 27 December 2021, 01:50:49

Update: Wrist rest collaboration.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: Digital Carpentry wrist rest collab, with samples!
Post by: paperassgasket on Wed, 29 December 2021, 10:43:11

I'd like to see the inclusion of dual 3u minibars. Also accent minibars and maybe a 1.25/1.5/1.75u accent key in each of the kits as well.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: Digital Carpentry wrist rest collab, with samples!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Wed, 29 December 2021, 22:09:32

Quote from: paperassgasket on Wed, 29 December 2021, 10:43:11

I'd like to see the inclusion of dual 3u minibars. Also accent minibars and maybe a 1.25/1.5/1.75u accent key in each of the kits as well.

The dual 3u bars are in the spacebar kit. I was really trying to keep the price of the 40s kit down so I didn't have them in there. I don't suspect the spacebar kit will be too expensive, judging by the price quotes I have received and previously ran KAM sets, so hopefully that isnt a deal breaker for anyone who really needs them!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: Digital Carpentry wrist rest collab, with samples!
Post by: paperassgasket on Wed, 29 December 2021, 22:45:31

Oh I somehow scrolled right on by that.
I agree that they probably shouldn't be included in a 40's kit because they're not pervasive enough for that. Plus I'm hoping that 3-1-3 becomes a thing for 60's too.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: Digital Carpentry wrist rest collab, with samples!
Post by: prconlin on Sat, 01 January 2022, 11:00:05

A few of the symbols are incorrect on the periodic alphas.  Xenon should be Xe, dubnium should be Db, and thulium should be Tm.  Maybe these were changed for aesthetic reasons, but there are a number of other two-letter symbols like Li included, so I'm not sure why some were changed and not others.  In any case, I would prefer the periodic legends be as correct and consistent as possible.  I would also like to nominate titanium for the 'T' key over thulium.

I'm also in the camp that the electron orbital number novelties should not have secondary legends.  That would really mar the aesthetic.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: Digital Carpentry wrist rest collab, with samples!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Wed, 05 January 2022, 02:29:50

60s definitely need more split space options. I always use left space for shift and right space for space. I use split boards mostly, so whenever I go back to using a board with a full spacebar, my brain has to do some adjusting haha

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: Digital Carpentry wrist rest collab, with samples!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Wed, 05 January 2022, 22:02:33

Quote from: prconlin on Sat, 01 January 2022, 11:00:05

A few of the symbols are incorrect on the periodic alphas.  Xenon should be Xe, dubnium should be Db, and thulium should be Tm.  Maybe these were changed for aesthetic reasons, but there are a number of other two-letter symbols like Li included, so I'm not sure why some were changed and not others.  In any case, I would prefer the periodic legends be as correct and consistent as possible.  I would also like to nominate titanium for the 'T' key over thulium.

I'm also in the camp that the electron orbital number novelties should not have secondary legends.  That would really mar the aesthetic.

Yep! Those fixes have all been made apparent and fixed already. I just haven't updated the post yet. The periodic alphas kit was VERY last minute before posting the IC. I did it very quick before posting and unfortunately that resulted in some glaring mistakes.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: PRICING ANNOUNCED, plus new render!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 11 January 2022, 23:28:15

Update: Added new kit and new render

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: New novelty kit and new render!
Post by: Klackygears on Mon, 24 January 2022, 20:16:32

Really looking forward to this set!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: Slight kitting changes
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Mon, 07 February 2022, 15:56:13

Update: Fixed a few issues with the kitting, including changing homing to scooped instead of bars. Also, I believe all mistakes on the periodic alphas should be fixed now!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: GB DATE ANNOUNCED! - March 1st - April 5th
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Mon, 14 February 2022, 11:09:01

Update: GB date announcement

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: GB DATE/PRICING ANNOUNCED! - March 1st - April 5th
Post by: HelloThisIsDog on Mon, 14 February 2022, 23:14:59

I love the periodic alphas!

What is Keyreative saying about production times?

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: GB DATE/PRICING ANNOUNCED! - March 1st - April 5th
Post by: vkeycaps on Wed, 16 February 2022, 14:14:21

Looks awesome! Love it

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: GB DATE/PRICING ANNOUNCED! - March 1st - April 5th
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Thu, 17 February 2022, 14:59:05

Quote from: HelloThisIsDog on Mon, 14 February 2022, 23:14:59

I love the periodic alphas!

What is Keyreative saying about production times?

Thanks so much! Last we heard back in October they were still quoting a 1 year turnaround. However, I think that is unreasonable to assume given the state of the hobby at this point. In my opinion, a lead time of 1.5 years is a decent estimate so we are quoting Q3 2023. Could be sooner, could be later, but considering all manus have taken longer than quoted times, I want to try to give a realistic estimate if possible.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: GB date/pricing and French kitting announced
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Sun, 20 February 2022, 17:49:19

Update: Added French kit

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: GB DATE/PRICING ANNOUNCED! - March 1st - April 5th
Post by: Mr Chrome on Sun, 20 February 2022, 23:39:28

Quote from: NintendoNoNo on Thu, 17 February 2022, 14:59:05

Quote from: HelloThisIsDog on Mon, 14 February 2022, 23:14:59

I love the periodic alphas!

What is Keyreative saying about production times?

Thanks so much! Last we heard back in October they were still quoting a 1 year turnaround. However, I think that is unreasonable to assume given the state of the hobby at this point. In my opinion, a lead time of 1.5 years is a decent estimate so we are quoting Q3 2023. Could be sooner, could be later, but considering all manus have taken longer than quoted times, I want to try to give a realistic estimate if possible.

This is a good approach. It’s definitely closer to a 1.5 year production time for Keyreative, seeing as Cyberspace ran ‘til September 2020 and is still making its way to vendors. It’s possible the wait time could go down in future though, seeing as a lot of designers aren’t jumping to design sets with them.

Really cool set too! IMO the text novelties clash a bit with text mods, but I like that there are so many choices. Great work with the accent colors, I can’t decide my favorite :confused:

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: GB date/pricing and French kitting announced
Post by: BareSphereMass on Mon, 21 February 2022, 22:25:04

This looks cool.  I really like the periodic alphas, the picture novelties and the colored accents.
The Deskmats leave a little to be desired.  I think either a graphic of an exploded chemistry lab, or a literal periodic table of elements could be cool.  Also the 900x400x2mm desk mats are too thin, the 900x400x3mm are way better.
If you could work a brass or metal key cap option in there too, that would be awesome.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: GB date/pricing and French kitting announced
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 22 February 2022, 23:04:08

Quote from: BareSphereMass on Mon, 21 February 2022, 22:25:04

This looks cool.  I really like the periodic alphas, the picture novelties and the colored accents.
The Deskmats leave a little to be desired.  I think either a graphic of an exploded chemistry lab, or a literal periodic table of elements could be cool.  Also the 900x400x2mm desk mats are too thin, the 900x400x3mm are way better.
If you could work a brass or metal key cap option in there too, that would be awesome.

For the deskmats, I talked to a ton of people and they all agreed that simpler was better. I was going to commission an artist for one originally, but the general trend is that mats with lots of artwork don't really sell all that well. Not that I'm in this for the money, but just the fact that commissioning people is expensive. I made these mats myself and I am definitely no artist (I'm a scientist!), but I hope they are simple enough that enough people enjoy their aesthetic. As for the periodic table idea, I also wanted to do that but another set already has mats like that and I didn't want to steal the idea.

Also, there are two metal caps in the work that should be announced just before the GB! Just waiting on the final renders of them.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: GB date/pricing and French kitting announced
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Wed, 23 February 2022, 14:39:12

Update: NZ Caps artisan rotary encoder knob announced

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: Artisan rotary encoder knob and GB date/pricing!
Post by: LightenS on Thu, 24 February 2022, 12:53:31

Typo for Xe
Xeon => Xenon

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: Artisan rotary encoder knob and GB date/pricing!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Thu, 24 February 2022, 12:55:47

Quote from: LightenS on Thu, 24 February 2022, 12:53:31

Typo for Xe
Xeon => Xenon

Thank you for catching that! I asked lot of people to double check all these and nobody caught that. I will make sure that is fixed right away.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: Artisan rotary encoder knob and GB date/pricing!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Thu, 24 February 2022, 22:02:25

Okay, should all be fixed now!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: Artisan rotary encoder knob and GB date/pricing!
Post by: Razer1987 on Fri, 25 February 2022, 09:15:00

In for French!!!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - GB briefly postponed, please read!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Mon, 28 February 2022, 16:44:52

Update: postponement

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - GB briefly postponed, please read!
Post by: hulster on Tue, 08 March 2022, 14:17:17

What´s the issue?

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Artisan enter and artisan knob announced!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 08 March 2022, 16:01:07

Update: Otakeebs enter artisan

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - GB briefly postponed, please read!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 08 March 2022, 16:02:37

Quote from: hulster on Tue, 08 March 2022, 14:17:17

What´s the issue?

We are just waiting to hear back from Keyreative and get a final confirmation that the legends will all be printable. We thought we would have heard back before the date the GB was originally set for, but unfortunately that wasn't the case.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Artisan enter and artisan knob announced!
Post by: Extra Fox on Tue, 08 March 2022, 22:34:27

That "Aluminum" enter key is absolutely awesome.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - GB briefly postponed, please read!
Post by: hulster on Wed, 09 March 2022, 02:11:14

Quote from: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 08 March 2022, 16:02:37

Quote from: hulster on Tue, 08 March 2022, 14:17:17

What´s the issue?

We are just waiting to hear back from Keyreative and get a final confirmation that the legends will all be printable. We thought we would have heard back before the date the GB was originally set for, but unfortunately that wasn't the case.

Thx. Sorry for initially bothering. Didn't see your update on the start page.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - GB briefly postponed, please read!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Wed, 09 March 2022, 12:59:31

Quote from: hulster on Wed, 09 March 2022, 02:11:14

Quote from: NintendoNoNo on Tue, 08 March 2022, 16:02:37

Quote from: hulster on Tue, 08 March 2022, 14:17:17

What´s the issue?

We are just waiting to hear back from Keyreative and get a final confirmation that the legends will all be printable. We thought we would have heard back before the date the GB was originally set for, but unfortunately that wasn't the case.

Thx. Sorry for initially bothering. Didn't see your update on the start page.

No worries! I tried to make it visible, but also everyone formats their Geekhack posts slightly differently, so I don't blame for you checking in the comments for the reason.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Artisan enter and artisan knob announced!
Post by: LightenS on Thu, 24 March 2022, 18:24:23

still no updated?  seem like COVID punched Zfrontier in the face...

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Artisan enter and artisan knob announced!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Mon, 28 March 2022, 22:35:57

Quote from: LightenS on Thu, 24 March 2022, 18:24:23

still no updated?  seem like COVID punched Zfrontier in the face...

Sorry for my late reply! We did get one update from them, and they confirmed the legends for the kits will be printable. However, they still need to give us one more price quote (for the French kit). We have tried messaging them again to remind them we are waiting on it...

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Artisan enter and artisan knob announced!
Post by: Lincolnworks on Thu, 31 March 2022, 19:45:05

KAM isn't really my thing but I do like the design and art style  :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Artisan enter and artisan knob announced!
Post by: ILogger on Tue, 10 May 2022, 13:00:17

Any news? I love this keycaps design and wanna have them already  ;D

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Artisan enter and artisan knob announced!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Sat, 25 June 2022, 20:02:36

Quote from: ILogger on Tue, 10 May 2022, 13:00:17

Any news? I love this keycaps design and wanna have them already  ;D

Sorry for the incredibly late response! I’m much more active on Discord than on here, so I get around to answering questions there about 1000 times faster haha. But yes, we did hear back from Keyreative! They were in lockdown due to COVID and didn’t have access to their messaging services because of it. So hopefully now that they’re back to work we can move forward with the GB. According to them, the first round of samples should be on the way to me. Granted, some of the Pantone colors have changed since I submitted for those samples over a year ago, but it will at least be nice to check on the detailed lines, which I want to do since it’s reverse dye sub.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Fri, 02 September 2022, 12:02:31

Update: GB date announced

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: hulster on Fri, 02 September 2022, 13:59:35

 :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: DontStealMyLolipop on Fri, 02 September 2022, 14:51:19

I'm in  ;D

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: FitLabb on Fri, 02 September 2022, 20:29:36

Glad to see this set back up with a GB date this Fall! Been waiting and hoping this set would come to fruition as it’s too good to not be produced!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Sun, 18 September 2022, 10:12:07

Just so everyone knows, the Fluorine spelling mistake has been fixed. Thanks to all who have pointed it out and sorry about that!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: dededecline on Fri, 30 September 2022, 18:04:17

This isn't still being run in KAM is it?
Their communication seems to have gotten worse since 2020, which is not something I thought possible.
Now they're consistently shipping out subpar quality sets with seemingly little to no quality control, as recently as Napoleonic (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109526.msg3142112#msg3142112) and Explosion (https://i.imgur.com/bYbXvmq.png) just this week. Many of these issues aren't even new, but extensions of issues that cropped up at the time of Milkshake and Eternal.
Honestly it's a disservice to your customers to run a set with Keyreative at this point. They have zero record of delivering sets properly, with good comms, in a timely manner. I know the group buy date is coming up fast but please please reconsider.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: keebnewb on Fri, 30 September 2022, 18:16:00

Keyreative in the year of our lord 2022? Personally I'm done with Keyreative and I know a lot of other people are too. Might consider another uniform profile like DSA through NicePBT?

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: hulster on Sat, 01 October 2022, 03:27:17

mmmmhhh - I like this set a lot. But it will mean to spent a lot of money. I have no issues with delays, but somehow the quality should be ensured.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: discourse and group on Sat, 01 October 2022, 13:00:46

GMK a preorders are still available

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: hulster on Sat, 01 October 2022, 13:07:03

Quote from: discourse and group on Sat, 01 October 2022, 13:00:46

GMK a preorders are still available

? ? ?

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Sun, 09 October 2022, 21:15:52

Added escape artisan photo

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: hulster on Wed, 12 October 2022, 03:14:33

@NintendoNoNo - can not find it on MyKeyboard.eu yet.
Any idea? Do not like to miss out. So would go for another place to buy it, if need be.
But would be my preference to save custom fees, taxes and international shipping

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: vrapan on Wed, 12 October 2022, 03:57:48

Same for protozoa in the UK is Kamistry still coming to those vendors?

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: hulster on Wed, 12 October 2022, 12:21:29

Quote from: vrapan on Wed, 12 October 2022, 03:57:48

Same for protozoa in the UK is Kamistry still coming to those vendors?

It is now there, but the Rotary Encoder Knob is missing.  :(

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Wed, 12 October 2022, 17:54:05

Quote from: hulster on Wed, 12 October 2022, 03:14:33

@NintendoNoNo - can not find it on MyKeyboard.eu yet.
Any idea? Do not like to miss out. So would go for another place to buy it, if need be.
But would be my preference to save custom fees, taxes and international shipping

Hey! Sorry for the late reply. It’s up now on their site :)

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Wed, 12 October 2022, 17:55:37

Quote from: hulster on Wed, 12 October 2022, 12:21:29

Quote from: vrapan on Wed, 12 October 2022, 03:57:48

Same for protozoa in the UK is Kamistry still coming to those vendors?

It is now there, but the Rotary Encoder Knob is missing.  :(

Oops, ignore my last message. The rotary encoder was ran through NZ caps earlier this year. A lot of people have requested they run it again, so I have been trying to get in contact with them to request it, but I have not heard anything back. If I do hear back then I will be sure to announce it on the discord! It sold out way faster than I thought it would.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy on October 10th, 2022!
Post by: NintendoNoNo on Wed, 12 October 2022, 17:57:20

Quote from: vrapan on Wed, 12 October 2022, 03:57:48

Same for protozoa in the UK is Kamistry still coming to those vendors?

It is currently live for most vendors. The main contact I have for Protozoa has been out of town recently so I’ve been trying to get ahold of him to let him know the GB needs to be live. But I was able to get ahold of someone else in the company and they are now contacting him for me. Sorry about that!

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy October 10th - November 10th, 2022!
Post by: hulster on Mon, 17 October 2022, 11:55:34

@NintendoNoNo

I maybe overlooked - is there any fair estimate about delivery?

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy October 10th - November 10th, 2022!
Post by: dededecline on Mon, 17 October 2022, 12:16:34

Quote from: hulster on Mon, 17 October 2022, 11:55:34

@NintendoNoNo

I maybe overlooked - is there any fair estimate about delivery?

It’s Keyreative, there’s literally no such thing.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy October 10th - November 10th, 2022!
Post by: vrapan on Mon, 17 October 2022, 12:17:17

Novembet 2023 ie some time early 2024 :)

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy October 10th - November 10th, 2022!
Post by: hulster on Mon, 17 October 2022, 14:36:50

Quote from: vrapan on Mon, 17 October 2022, 12:17:17

Novembet 2023 ie some time early 2024 :)

So really nearly the same as GMK? Was hoping would be a bit quicker.

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Update: GB date/pricing and French kitting announced
Post by: MoqqelBql on Fri, 21 October 2022, 05:57:36

Quote from: NintendoNoNo on Sun, 20 February 2022, 17:49:19

Update: Added French kit

Could you please add the 2 missing caps for French AZERTY : ù% and <> as shown in this picture.

https://imgur.com/sDbbst7 (https://imgur.com/sDbbst7)

Title: Re: [IC] KAMistry - Group Buy October 10th - November 10th, 2022!
Post by: crookey on Fri, 21 October 2022, 08:25:00

Cool, its color looks like iron patriot.