Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 11 April 2015, 02:39:42
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vIAHkuyoQYYUnhIS2hlT0KI5_0TaCbMLpxGBnVFV45A/viewform
Let me know if you have any conserns.
This is an example on how it could look:
Anodised aluminium universal 60% (choose between red, white, blue):
Sold 40 MOQ 50
50: 40$, 70: 35$, 100: 30$
40% keyboard + sandwhich case:
Sold 24 MOQ 20
50: 45$ 70: 42$, 100: 38$
Full size sandblasted steel, multiple bottom row options:
Sold 18 MOQ 20
50: 30$, 70: 28$, 100: 23$
60% plate combatible with sandwhich case + sandwhich case in frosted acrylic(choose between ISO or ANSI:
Sold 30 MOQ 25
50: 50$, 70: 46$, 100: 44$
So as you might understand, i want more options and will only produce the plates that makes the MOQ
Designs may be taken from here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71994.msg1749492#msg1749492) and the IC form.
Post by: lolpes on Sat, 11 April 2015, 07:42:09
Post by: welsinki on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:00:26
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 11 April 2015, 12:20:28
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:15:19
I havenīt yet filled in your survey but Iīve ordered a prototype plate from your store to give it a test with both MX and ALPS switches.
Hello you. Thanks for your order :) I hope you get satisfied!
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:16:13
Very interested :) especially because low shipping price to EU :D
Gotta show EU some love :)
I will look at the results of the IC and check what is best to order and ill set up a groupbuy.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:18:14
Why don't the plates have screw holes to mount them to a case?
The point is to make a cheap and simple plate. No mountholes this time:-/
Edit: someone changed my opinion.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:24:25
Why don't the plates have screw holes to mount them to a case?
The point is to make a cheap and simple plate. No mountholes this time:-/
I personally won't be buying one but I think you'll get a lot more interest if you add the standard 60% mounting holes, a plate without any mounting holes whatsoever is mostly useless seeing as you can't use any sort of case.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:25:14
Thanks for the idea, but I try to get a nice price point also. Sorry.Why don't the plates have screw holes to mount them to a case?
The point is to make a cheap and simple plate. No mountholes this time:-/
I personally won't be buying one but I think you'll get a lot more interest if you add the standard 60% mounting holes, a plate without any mounting holes whatsoever is mostly useless seeing as you can't use any sort of case.
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:27:46
They have no holes to allow the PCB to be screwed down to a Poker-compatible casing.
They have no holes for the plate to be screwed down to a casing.
As far as I can tell, these plates are not usable with anything. You couldn't even design a custom casing around them because of their lack of any kind of screw holes.
(of course, correct me if I'm wrong)
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:41:44
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:43:20
Post by: Joey Quinn on Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:48:01
Edit: I was wrong about the plate builder, it does allow you to add holes.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 11 April 2015, 15:14:25
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 11 April 2015, 15:21:49
Yes, but this isn't the point. I'll will see if I can do it, but none of the 50 people that has filled out the form is particularly interested in it. It will be a lot more work. Thanks for the opportunity though. This is more of a "make your own case simple design. Or " add 4 feet's " open design.I think the people that filled the form maybe didn't notice (or maybe don't understand) that this plate is almost useless as is.
You cannot easily design a case around it (trust me, I've designed plenty of cases), since there's no way to mount the plate or PCB to a case. If you were to design a case around it, it would be one where the PCB just sort of sits inside it. Neither the PCB or plate would really be 'mounted'.
The only real use I can see for it, which you mentioned, is adding 4 feet to the PCB and having it with no casing.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 11 April 2015, 15:24:29
OK then. Will the poker 60% cutouts work with standard cases then?Yes, but this isn't the point. I'll will see if I can do it, but none of the 50 people that has filled out the form is particularly interested in it. It will be a lot more work. Thanks for the opportunity though. This is more of a "make your own case simple design. Or " add 4 feet's " open design.I think the people that filled the form maybe didn't notice (or maybe don't understand) that this plate is almost useless as is.
You cannot easily design a case around it (trust me, I've designed plenty of cases), since there's no way to mount the plate or PCB to a case. If you were to design a case around it, it would be one where the PCB just sort of sits inside it. Neither the PCB or plate would really be 'mounted'.
The only real use I can see for it, which you mentioned, is adding 4 feet to the PCB and having it with no casing.
Post by: Photekq on Sat, 11 April 2015, 15:25:23
OK then. Will the poker 60% cutouts work with standard cases then?Yes. All 60% cases that use PCB-mounting use those standoff positions.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 11 April 2015, 15:25:59
Ok thanks for your help. I will see what I can do.OK then. Will the poker 60% cutouts work with standard cases then?Yes. All 60% cases that use PCB-mounting use those standoff positions.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 11 April 2015, 15:35:10
OK then. Will the poker 60% cutouts work with standard cases then?Yes. All 60% cases that use PCB-mounting use those standoff positions.
(http://i.imgur.com/F1Do73r.png])
Need some help. First, the top looks horribly wrong, so i will cut it down in FreeCad. Second, the "mount holes" hit the switch itself, both on ANSI and ISO. Is it okay?
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 11 April 2015, 18:29:44
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Sat, 11 April 2015, 18:58:26
OK then. Will the poker 60% cutouts work with standard cases then?Yes. All 60% cases that use PCB-mounting use those standoff positions.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/F1Do73r.png])
Need some help. First, the top looks horribly wrong, so i will cut it down in FreeCad. Second, the "mount holes" hit the switch itself, both on ANSI and ISO. Is it okay?
As you are using swill's plate builder, that's a common problem you are doing at the Keyboard Layout Editor. You are simply deleting the keys, like that:
[attach=1]
You also need to reposition the keys, just like that:
[attach=2]
Just after that you may use the plate builder correctly.
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 11 April 2015, 21:00:51
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 12 April 2015, 00:22:44
Of course. Super thanks!OK then. Will the poker 60% cutouts work with standard cases then?Yes. All 60% cases that use PCB-mounting use those standoff positions.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/F1Do73r.png])
Need some help. First, the top looks horribly wrong, so i will cut it down in FreeCad. Second, the "mount holes" hit the switch itself, both on ANSI and ISO. Is it okay?
As you are using swill's plate builder, that's a common problem you are doing at the Keyboard Layout Editor. You are simply deleting the keys, like that:
(Attachment Link)
You also need to reposition the keys, just like that:
(Attachment Link)
Just after that you may use the plate builder correctly.
Post by: Melvang on Sun, 12 April 2015, 01:48:21
Stainless is very difficult to work with in a home/home shop environment. I work with it on occasion at work and I still burned up a pair of drill bits on one hole, and I still had to open the hole up big enough with a file.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 12 April 2015, 03:02:04
I just want to say if you are going to order this and try and drill holes yourself, please know what you are doing with stainless before ordering a plate.I am not gonna drill holes myself. I know what I am doing :)
Stainless is very difficult to work with in a home/home shop environment. I work with it on occasion at work and I still burned up a pair of drill bits on one hole, and I still had to open the hole up big enough with a file.
Post by: Dihedral on Sun, 12 April 2015, 03:32:21
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 12 April 2015, 04:10:18
I won't be partaking in this but am interested to see how it turns out as I expect to do something similar in my D-79 project. Good Luck!Thanks!
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 12 April 2015, 04:57:11
If not, I have to give up this IC.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 12 April 2015, 05:21:35
I read this IC super fast & filled form. Hope you 'll drill 5 mounting holes.
If not, I have to give up this IC.
I will try to get standard mounting holes.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 12 April 2015, 05:29:33
OK then. Will the poker 60% cutouts work with standard cases then?Yes. All 60% cases that use PCB-mounting use those standoff positions.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/F1Do73r.png]http://)
Need some help. First, the top looks horribly wrong, so i will cut it down in FreeCad. Second, the "mount holes" hit the switch itself, both on ANSI and ISO. Is it okay?
As you are using swill's plate builder, that's a common problem you are doing at the Keyboard Layout Editor. You are simply deleting the keys, like that:
(Attachment Link)
You also need to reposition the keys, just like that:
(Attachment Link)
Just after that you may use the plate builder correctly.
Thanks! Does this look right to you?
ANSI
(http://i.imgur.com/9SS8FqA.png])
ISO
(http://i.imgur.com/8GKs7HV.png])
Thanks for all the help and recomandations!
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 12 April 2015, 05:38:34
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 12 April 2015, 05:55:35
I won't be partaking in this but am interested to see how it turns out as I expect to do something similar in my D-79 project. Good Luck!
Tell me about your D-79 project :)
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 12 April 2015, 06:01:28
Capslock support both center & center off position?
Standard positioning. Can you explain further?
Post by: Dihedral on Sun, 12 April 2015, 06:58:51
I won't be partaking in this but am interested to see how it turns out as I expect to do something similar in my D-79 project. Good Luck!
Tell me about your D-79 project :)
It's an 80 percent style board with a merged num pad and no function row. I would like it as my endgame board and would like to run a small GB for plates later in the year if there is interest. Click the middle picture in my signature for more info :)
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 12 April 2015, 07:06:44
Cool!I won't be partaking in this but am interested to see how it turns out as I expect to do something similar in my D-79 project. Good Luck!
Tell me about your D-79 project :)
It's an 80 percent style board with a merged num pad and no function row. I would like it as my endgame board and would like to run a small GB for plates later in the year if there is interest. Click the middle picture in my signature for more info :)
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 12 April 2015, 07:08:03
(http://i.imgur.com/2u2uQ.jpg)
You said standard position is center? True?
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 12 April 2015, 07:54:02
Top is center off position. Bottom is center position.It will only work with centred caps lock. :-/Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2u2uQ.jpg)
You said standard position is center? True?
Post by: quochung1989 on Sun, 12 April 2015, 08:10:40
Top is center off position. Bottom is center position.It will only work with centred caps lock. :-/Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2u2uQ.jpg)
You said standard position is center? True?
Oops ! Almost korean pcb like 38GT; FaceU... supported two type, even more people like center off than center especially who love cherry.
So I hope you think more about this.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 12 April 2015, 08:19:19
I will think about it, but probably not. Thanks for ideas!Top is center off position. Bottom is center position.It will only work with centred caps lock. :-/Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2u2uQ.jpg)
You said standard position is center? True?
Oops ! Almost korean pcb like 38GT; FaceU... supported two type, even more people like center off than center especially who love cherry.
So I hope you think more about this.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 12 April 2015, 09:40:26
04.12.2015 - sent over drawings for 4 different plates, ISO plain, ISO advanced, ANSI plane and ANSI advanced. Will get quotes and decide a MOQ and set up the group buy.
Post by: welsinki on Sun, 12 April 2015, 09:53:32
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 12 April 2015, 10:23:50
I applaud LeandreN for taking the initiative to try and make a board available to people in the EU that costs as much as shipping alone would cost for one from the US. Itīs his first prototype so of course not everything will be perfect. I noticed the holes being absent but didnīt think it was a big deal at this price.
For anyone who is getting one, here are some videos of how to drill through stainless steel without destroying your drill bits:
How to Drill Through Stainless Steel
How to drill Stainless Steel w/ cheap tools and minimal supplies
Thanks for the tools! Yeah, trying to make it affordable to Europe.
The prototypes i have now works fine, but no mountholes. My plan is to make 4 different plates and have some MOQ. The reason for not having on the first one was because it was not meant to be placed in a case like that, i made some myself that worked.
2 of the new plates will have mountholes :)
Thanks again.
Post by: Asininity on Mon, 13 April 2015, 00:07:13
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 00:08:39
Very interested. Inexpensive plates would be a wonder. I have a bunch of Gateron switches and I wouldn't mind making a board with one of these. Looking forward to the GB.Happy to hear that :)
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 00:39:08
Edit, site: http://leandre.webs.com/groupbuys
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 13 April 2015, 01:14:16
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 01:18:20
I hope that your prices will be around $10 like all the other group buys.It depends on how may that buys. 10$ sounds a little low, but not impossible.
Post by: Asininity on Mon, 13 April 2015, 02:30:38
I hope that your prices will be around $10 like all the other group buys.It depends on how may that buys. 10$ sounds a little low, but not impossible.
Personally, if each plate was $10 I would buy three. If enough people behaved similarly I could easily foresee large quantity orders.
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 13 April 2015, 03:08:54
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 06:55:45
Bear in mind that I only managed to reach the price point of Ģ10 for my steel switch display. Although it had a bend, it only had four holes but still cost more than 10 dollars. Even at larger quantities you would do very well to hit 10 dollars. Good luck htough!My last ones were about 20 a piece so it isn't impossible, but like you say, difficult.
Post by: Acanthophis on Mon, 13 April 2015, 08:01:15
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 13 April 2015, 08:01:56
Only those 4 designs will be made?
To keep prices down, MOQ will need to be high for each type of design. Simple is better.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 08:02:19
Only those 4 designs will be made?I dont know yet. Something specific you are thinking about?
Post by: Acanthophis on Mon, 13 April 2015, 08:57:30
Rather special, ik.
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 13 April 2015, 09:04:26
Yup. http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/e4e4a9db64cf54b5fba25bf27e2a8ec5Oh short right shift. I forgot it. Almost korea custom boards fan like it.
Rather special, ik.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 09:56:51
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 13 April 2015, 10:16:23
Updates from China. Read OPHow much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 10:23:09
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).Updates from China. Read OPHow much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
Talking with other suppliers also.
Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.
Hope I answered your question.
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 13 April 2015, 11:24:13
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).Updates from China. Read OPHow much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
Talking with other suppliers also.
Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.
Hope I answered your question.
Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 11:25:01
I will try my best :) thanks !The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).Updates from China. Read OPHow much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
Talking with other suppliers also.
Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.
Hope I answered your question.
Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 12:40:23
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).Updates from China. Read OPHow much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
Talking with other suppliers also.
Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.
Hope I answered your question.
Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.
I asked them how the cuts would be without the notches. That was actually a really great idea. While notches is great, as long as you know what kind of switches you want on, there shouldn`t be a problem.
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 13 April 2015, 12:48:42
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).Updates from China. Read OPHow much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
Talking with other suppliers also.
Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.
Hope I answered your question.
Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.
I asked them how the cuts would be without the notches. That was actually a really great idea. While notches is great, as long as you know what kind of switches you want on, there shouldn`t be a problem.
Sound great !
I dont' understand your question. I thought plates 'll fit all Cherry MX switch? Not true?
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 12:51:34
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).Updates from China. Read OPHow much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
Talking with other suppliers also.
Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.
Hope I answered your question.
Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.
I asked them how the cuts would be without the notches. That was actually a really great idea. While notches is great, as long as you know what kind of switches you want on, there shouldn`t be a problem.
Sound great !
I dont' understand your question. I thought plates 'll fit all Cherry MX switch? Not true?
The plates will fit all Cherry MX switches :) I think ALPs will fit to. With or without notches, all the Cherry MX switches will fit :)
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:10:31
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).Updates from China. Read OPHow much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
Talking with other suppliers also.
Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.
Hope I answered your question.
Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.
I asked them how the cuts would be without the notches. That was actually a really great idea. While notches is great, as long as you know what kind of switches you want on, there shouldn`t be a problem.
Sound great !
I dont' understand your question. I thought plates 'll fit all Cherry MX switch? Not true?
The plates will fit all Cherry MX switches :) I think ALPs will fit to. With or without notches, all the Cherry MX switches will fit :)
Great. I like Cherry MX & only use it. In additional I would like use notched plate rather than.
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:27:55
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:29:06
Post by: Dihedral on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:30:48
Currently, the company i am talking with does not add extra cost for brushed finish :) It is the same price with or without.
Ah right, in that case then :)
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:32:03
The prototype is about 50$, i think. (20 for prototype, 30 for EMS shipping).Updates from China. Read OPHow much is prototype? Over 25$?
It is cut in China?
Can you explain about advantage ISO & ANSI? I don't understand about this.
Talking with other suppliers also.
Advanced ISO and ANSI, are plates with more features than the plain ones. (You can have both stabilizers, mountholes and not he's for switch removal) for a higher cost. A lot of people in the IC didn't need these features, so I made both.
Hope I answered your question.
Good anwser :thumb:
We only need plate with mountholes. If you have notched plates, it is very great.
But it is important thing is price. Hope you 'll give reasonable price.
Thanks for your effect.
I asked them how the cuts would be without the notches. That was actually a really great idea. While notches is great, as long as you know what kind of switches you want on, there shouldn`t be a problem.
Sound great !
I dont' understand your question. I thought plates 'll fit all Cherry MX switch? Not true?
The plates will fit all Cherry MX switches :) I think ALPs will fit to. With or without notches, all the Cherry MX switches will fit :)
Great. I like Cherry MX & only use it. In additional I would like use notched plate rather than.
Now you are a little unclear for me. Do you want notched or not? I think it is easier to make with no notched.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:43:55
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:44:38
Depending on the notch style you use the impact on the cost should be minimal.Yep, but the difficulty of cutting.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:48:17
Depending on the notch style you use the impact on the cost should be minimal.Yep, but the difficulty of cutting.
What notches are you using? They don't really complicate plates that much, especially with CNC lasers.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:57:03
Depending on the notch style you use the impact on the cost should be minimal.Yep, but the difficulty of cutting.
What notches are you using? They don't really complicate plates that much, especially with CNC lasers.
The standard notches shown in the pictures on the "Advanced plates". I got that the advanced plates was much more likely to be errors on and suggestet i prototype it.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Mon, 13 April 2015, 14:00:28
If you want a cheap plate ditch the notches, keep support for both stab types (unless everyone can agree on one), decide on a layout, and add the mounting holes. This is as cheap as you can make a plate and still have it be useful.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 14:26:21
Is the cutting place you're using really sketch? There should only be issues if the plate is drawn wrong. Also you should add holes to the simple boards because they are completely useless without them.Thanks for the feedback. I will know more tomorrow. Contacted more suppliers :)
If you want a cheap plate ditch the notches, keep support for both stab types (unless everyone can agree on one), decide on a layout, and add the mounting holes. This is as cheap as you can make a plate and still have it be useful.
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 13 April 2015, 19:16:31
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 13 April 2015, 22:45:51
I want notched plates.In the works.
Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 14 April 2015, 02:13:30
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 14 April 2015, 07:30:15
Go type two. It allows for matias builds, which are always cool :)You mean the notches? :)
Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 14 April 2015, 07:49:55
Go type two. It allows for matias builds, which are always cool :)You mean the notches? :)
(http://imgur.com/F1ecMcL.png)
If by notches you mean this one then yeah.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 14 April 2015, 09:08:32
Go type two. It allows for matias builds, which are always cool :)You mean the notches? :)Show Image(http://imgur.com/F1ecMcL.png)
If by notches you mean this one then yeah.
Yes, that is what i mean by that :) Talked with the orginal suppliers today. Got a quote. Will start to make some prices soon.
Hopefully, we will also be making the ones with the "notches".
LeandreN
Post by: Acanthophis on Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:01:58
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:04:16
How expensive would be one single design?What do you mean? I got quotes for all the plates and will start making the "end price" for all of you.(have to add shipping to me, taxes, package, and all of that). The prices are not ready yet.
Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:36:04
How expensive would be one single design?
probably around 50 pounds if you got it done yourself. That's in the region of 60 euros or 80 muricas.
Post by: Joey Quinn on Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:45:03
How expensive would be one single design?
probably around 50 pounds if you got it done yourself. That's in the region of 60 euros or 80 muricas.
I think LeandreN's goal was much cheaper.
Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:47:41
How expensive would be one single design?
probably around 50 pounds if you got it done yourself. That's in the region of 60 euros or 80 muricas.
I think LeandreN's goal was much cheaper.
Yes, because he's buying in bulk. Acanthopis just wants one plate from what i can discern from his post, so it will inevitably be more expensive.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:48:13
Yes, that's right.How expensive would be one single design?
probably around 50 pounds if you got it done yourself. That's in the region of 60 euros or 80 muricas.
I think LeandreN's goal was much cheaper.
Yes, because he's buying in bulk. Acanthopis just wants one plate from what i can discern from his post, so it will inevitably be more expensive.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 14 April 2015, 11:48:36
Yes, my goal is definitely cheaper than 50ĢHow expensive would be one single design?
probably around 50 pounds if you got it done yourself. That's in the region of 60 euros or 80 muricas.
I think LeandreN's goal was much cheaper.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 14 April 2015, 12:38:26
04.14.2015 - After looking at the quotes, i found that the price differentiation was to small to effectively make both with a reasonable price. I decided to discontinue the plain ones for now. This will result in a hopefully cheaper price for the ISO and ANSI advanced ones.
Post by: Dihedral on Tue, 14 April 2015, 12:55:20
Updated the OP:
04.14.2015 - After looking at the quotes, i found that the price differentiation was to small to effectively make both with a reasonable price. I decided to discontinue the plain ones for now. This will result in a hopefully cheaper price for the ISO and ANSI advanced ones.
was plain just without the brushed finish? if so, this seems like a prudent choice.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 14 April 2015, 13:01:16
Nah lots of other stuff to...Updated the OP:
04.14.2015 - After looking at the quotes, i found that the price differentiation was to small to effectively make both with a reasonable price. I decided to discontinue the plain ones for now. This will result in a hopefully cheaper price for the ISO and ANSI advanced ones.
was plain just without the brushed finish? if so, this seems like a prudent choice.
You can read about it here (http://leandre.webs.com/groupbuys)
Post by: Dihedral on Wed, 15 April 2015, 01:56:16
Nah lots of other stuff to...Updated the OP:
04.14.2015 - After looking at the quotes, i found that the price differentiation was to small to effectively make both with a reasonable price. I decided to discontinue the plain ones for now. This will result in a hopefully cheaper price for the ISO and ANSI advanced ones.
was plain just without the brushed finish? if so, this seems like a prudent choice.
You can read about it here (http://leandre.webs.com/groupbuys)
Ah. That one sounds quite good in terms of simplicity, but I guess if you don't have enough interest...
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 15 April 2015, 06:41:58
The biggest problem is price difference. They cost almost the same to make and I don't want to set the advanced ones to a ridicously high price to give you an illusion that the plain ones are cheap. :)Nah lots of other stuff to...Updated the OP:
04.14.2015 - After looking at the quotes, i found that the price differentiation was to small to effectively make both with a reasonable price. I decided to discontinue the plain ones for now. This will result in a hopefully cheaper price for the ISO and ANSI advanced ones.
was plain just without the brushed finish? if so, this seems like a prudent choice.
You can read about it here (http://leandre.webs.com/groupbuys)
Ah. That one sounds quite good in terms of simplicity, but I guess if you don't have enough interest...
Post by: LeandreN on Wed, 15 April 2015, 10:18:54
Prices: http://leandre.webs.com/groupbuys
Post by: Dihedral on Thu, 16 April 2015, 04:33:31
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 16 April 2015, 04:34:57
Probably best to start a GB thread now - in my GB I made the mistake of starting it too late which means that less people saw it.Thanks for the tips. Will just wait for confirmation from China about samples ;-)
Or not. I'll make on today :)
Post by: Dihedral on Thu, 16 April 2015, 06:14:49
Probably best to start a GB thread now - in my GB I made the mistake of starting it too late which means that less people saw it.Thanks for the tips. Will just wait for confirmation from China about samples ;-)
Or not. I'll make on today :)
Just go for it. If you hit any problems, be honest and let people know, they will be understanding.
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:43:03
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 16 April 2015, 10:56:33
How to order? Via your shop?Yes, but it is not ready yet. There is still a some of work to do. Need to get samples to assure the quality and that everything fits. And then I will begin orders. I have also made a GB page which is currently under approval.
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 16 April 2015, 12:54:13
How to order? Via your shop?Yes, but it is not ready yet. There is still a some of work to do. Need to get samples to assure the quality and that everything fits. And then I will begin orders. I have also made a GB page which is currently under approval.
Sound great. I 'll waiting ...
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 16 April 2015, 13:09:09
How to order? Via your shop?Yes, but it is not ready yet. There is still a some of work to do. Need to get samples to assure the quality and that everything fits. And then I will begin orders. I have also made a GB page which is currently under approval.
Sound great. I 'll waiting ...
Do you know of a place i can get some Cherry stabilizers? I don`t have them. I just need one for the space bar and on of the shorter ones, just to test. I only use Costar myself.
AND, do you have any feedback on the prices?
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 16 April 2015, 14:29:01
Plate mounted or PCB mounted Cherry stabilizers? Cherry plate stabs are available at electronics retailers like Mouser and Digikey. PCB stabs are sold out, already looked there. Just search for the codes (from Cherry MX datasheet):How to order? Via your shop?Yes, but it is not ready yet. There is still a some of work to do. Need to get samples to assure the quality and that everything fits. And then I will begin orders. I have also made a GB page which is currently under approval.
Sound great. I 'll waiting ...
Do you know of a place i can get some Cherry stabilizers? I don`t have them. I just need one for the space bar and on of the shorter ones, just to test. I only use Costar myself.
AND, do you have any feedback on the prices?
- Plate mounted: G99-0224 (1x2, 1x2.25 and 1x2.75 keys); G99-0225 (1x3 keys) and G99-0226 (1x8 keys)
- PCB mounted: G99-0742 (1x2, 1x2.25 and 1x2.75 keys); G99-0743 (1x3 keys) and G99-0744 (1x8 keys)
Example:
Cherry plate mounted stabilizer for 1x2 keys: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/CHERRY/0G990224/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMslEIBZEhsHBpeE24fgzp7V
Post by: LeandreN on Thu, 16 April 2015, 14:35:35
Wow. Thanks. What would I need for a full platemounted 60%?Plate mounted or PCB mounted Cherry stabilizers? Cherry plate stabs are available at electronics retailers like Mouser and Digikey. PCB stabs are sold out, already looked there. Just search for the codes (from Cherry MX datasheet):How to order? Via your shop?Yes, but it is not ready yet. There is still a some of work to do. Need to get samples to assure the quality and that everything fits. And then I will begin orders. I have also made a GB page which is currently under approval.
Sound great. I 'll waiting ...
Do you know of a place i can get some Cherry stabilizers? I don`t have them. I just need one for the space bar and on of the shorter ones, just to test. I only use Costar myself.
AND, do you have any feedback on the prices?
- Plate mounted: G99-0224 (1x2, 1x2.25 and 1x2.75 keys); G99-0225 (1x3 keys) and G99-0226 (1x8 keys)
- PCB mounted: G99-0742 (1x2, 1x2.25 and 1x2.75 keys); G99-0743 (1x3 keys) and G99-0744 (1x8 keys)
Example:
Cherry plate mounted stabilizer for 1x2 keys: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/CHERRY/0G990224/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMslEIBZEhsHBpeE24fgzp7V
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 16 April 2015, 16:09:20
Wow. Thanks. What would I need for a full platemounted 60%?ISO or ANSI? A typical 60% ANSI keyboard will use 4 1x2 stabilizers and 1 1x6.25 stabilizer. The problem is to source the rigid wire in the right size for the spacebar. You can try to buy an 1x8 stab and adapt it to 1x6.25, but I've never done this before.
Post by: quochung1989 on Thu, 16 April 2015, 20:07:13
How to order? Via your shop?Yes, but it is not ready yet. There is still a some of work to do. Need to get samples to assure the quality and that everything fits. And then I will begin orders. I have also made a GB page which is currently under approval.
Sound great. I 'll waiting ...
Do you know of a place i can get some Cherry stabilizers? I don`t have them. I just need one for the space bar and on of the shorter ones, just to test. I only use Costar myself.
AND, do you have any feedback on the prices?
I think it is reasonalble price for plate with mountholes.
I usually buy Cherry stabilizer from GON
http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/10-stabilizers
Plate mounted or PCB mounted Cherry stabilizers? Cherry plate stabs are available at electronics retailers like Mouser and Digikey. PCB stabs are sold out, already looked there. Just search for the codes (from Cherry MX datasheet):How to order? Via your shop?Yes, but it is not ready yet. There is still a some of work to do. Need to get samples to assure the quality and that everything fits. And then I will begin orders. I have also made a GB page which is currently under approval.
Sound great. I 'll waiting ...
Do you know of a place i can get some Cherry stabilizers? I don`t have them. I just need one for the space bar and on of the shorter ones, just to test. I only use Costar myself.
AND, do you have any feedback on the prices?
- Plate mounted: G99-0224 (1x2, 1x2.25 and 1x2.75 keys); G99-0225 (1x3 keys) and G99-0226 (1x8 keys)
- PCB mounted: G99-0742 (1x2, 1x2.25 and 1x2.75 keys); G99-0743 (1x3 keys) and G99-0744 (1x8 keys)
Example:
Cherry plate mounted stabilizer for 1x2 keys: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/CHERRY/0G990224/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMslEIBZEhsHBpeE24fgzp7V
Thanks for sharing.
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Thu, 16 April 2015, 21:11:39
Thanks for sharing.You're welcome.
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 17 April 2015, 00:29:36
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 17 April 2015, 07:55:15
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 18 April 2015, 01:54:50
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 18 April 2015, 02:58:26
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 18 April 2015, 02:59:57
What is the final design of the plate? There are many universal designs already made. From example the gh60 or the imsto, which support at the same time iso and Ansi. You should ask for permission and see if the design is open source.If someone really has copyright on a simple plain "nothing special" 60% plate. I am a little worried.
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 18 April 2015, 03:06:24
What is the final design of the plate? There are many universal designs already made. From example the gh60 or the imsto, which support at the same time iso and Ansi. You should ask for permission and see if the design is open source.If someone really has copyright on a simple plain "nothing special" 60% plate. I am a little worried.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 18 April 2015, 03:08:19
The same plate supports AT THE SAME TIME Ansi and iso. You have to ask for permission because it has been developed by members of the community. You need to understand that it has nothing to do with copyright, but it has to do with the respect that you have to show to other's people work.Mine doesn't :) separate ISO and ANSI. Nothing special . thanks for the heads up!What is the final design of the plate? There are many universal designs already made. From example the gh60 or the imsto, which support at the same time iso and Ansi. You should ask for permission and see if the design is open source.If someone really has copyright on a simple plain "nothing special" 60% plate. I am a little worried.
EDIT: Sorry for my knowledge and the gh60 is an amazing plate and i totally respect what they have done. What i want, is to make it cheaper for Europe especially. I don't use their design either, just a simple design with SwillKB plate builder.
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 18 April 2015, 03:09:27
The same plate supports AT THE SAME TIME Ansi and iso. You have to ask for permission because it has been developed by members of the community. You need to understand that it has nothing to do with copyright, but it has to do with the respect that you have to show to other's people work.Mine doesn't :) separate ISO and ANSI. Nothing special . thanks for the heads up!What is the final design of the plate? There are many universal designs already made. From example the gh60 or the imsto, which support at the same time iso and Ansi. You should ask for permission and see if the design is open source.If someone really has copyright on a simple plain "nothing special" 60% plate. I am a little worried.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 18 April 2015, 03:13:05
MehMehThe same plate supports AT THE SAME TIME Ansi and iso. You have to ask for permission because it has been developed by members of the community. You need to understand that it has nothing to do with copyright, but it has to do with the respect that you have to show to other's people work.Mine doesn't :) separate ISO and ANSI. Nothing special . thanks for the heads up!What is the final design of the plate? There are many universal designs already made. From example the gh60 or the imsto, which support at the same time iso and Ansi. You should ask for permission and see if the design is open source.If someone really has copyright on a simple plain "nothing special" 60% plate. I am a little worried.
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 18 April 2015, 03:39:31
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 18 April 2015, 03:40:48
Can you post the swill's design so we can look for problems or errors?Leandre.webs.com/groupbuys :)
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 18 April 2015, 03:47:25
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 18 April 2015, 03:51:36
I visited the site using my mobile, so maybe I didn't see the answer. Is the complete swill's layout - not the picture, the actual file - somewhere to be seen?https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70857.msg1713956.msg#1713956
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 18 April 2015, 04:02:38
I visited the site using my mobile, so maybe I didn't see the answer. Is the complete swill's layout - not the picture, the actual file - somewhere to be seen?https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70857.msg1713956.msg#1713956
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 18 April 2015, 04:11:40
Nope nope.I visited the site using my mobile, so maybe I didn't see the answer. Is the complete swill's layout - not the picture, the actual file - somewhere to be seen?https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70857.msg1713956.msg#1713956
Sorry
ISO: http://i.imgur.com/8GKs7HV.png
ANSI: http://i.imgur.com/9SS8FqA.png
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 18 April 2015, 14:48:18
Waiting for my GB thread to get approval...
Post by: quochung1989 on Sat, 18 April 2015, 20:32:11
Post by: TLExile on Sun, 19 April 2015, 01:13:35
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 19 April 2015, 01:35:38
Had high hopes for this buy but am extremely disappointed. Plates are in the Poker style for stabs, which is incompatable with Korean PCB's (only in the case of pcb mount cherry stabs). due to they fact that Poker 2's have stabs with wire directed down on the space and enter key while Gon/winkeyless boards have those both facing up. Might have to bite the bullet for a gon plate.Sorry, but I cannot please everyone. My main market is Europe. Thanks for the feedback anyway.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 19 April 2015, 01:36:09
You try contact/pm moderator to ask. Hope your GB run soon :cool:I have contacted 2 mods. Thanks ! I hope I get approval soon :)
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 19 April 2015, 02:07:39
Had high hopes for this buy but am extremely disappointed. Plates are in the Poker style for stabs, which is incompatable with Korean PCB's (only in the case of pcb mount cherry stabs). due to they fact that Poker 2's have stabs with wire directed down on the space and enter key while Gon/winkeyless boards have those both facing up. Might have to bite the bullet for a gon plate.
Post by: TLExile on Sun, 19 April 2015, 02:24:14
So you can use this with a gon, but you need plate mounted stabs?
Either that or ruining the plate by trying to sand it down. The metal wire will contact the plate on those two keys and both ping and prevent a full extension which affects the feel of the switch. I can understand why he chose the Poker layout as that's a much larger market for 60% (pokers,GH60's). Trying to find a cheap plate that fits Korean boards is difficult to say the least.
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 19 April 2015, 04:35:45
Why would someone use pcb mounted stabs when the switch are plate mounted... Is the feeling different? More soft?
So you can use this with a gon, but you need plate mounted stabs?
Either that or ruining the plate by trying to sand it down. The metal wire will contact the plate on those two keys and both ping and prevent a full extension which affects the feel of the switch. I can understand why he chose the Poker layout as that's a much larger market for 60% (pokers,GH60's). Trying to find a cheap plate that fits Korean boards is difficult to say the least.
Post by: Giorgio on Sun, 19 April 2015, 04:39:50
Had high hopes for this buy but am extremely disappointed. Plates are in the Poker style for stabs, which is incompatable with Korean PCB's (only in the case of pcb mount cherry stabs). due to they fact that Poker 2's have stabs with wire directed down on the space and enter key while Gon/winkeyless boards have those both facing up. Might have to bite the bullet for a gon plate.Sorry, but I cannot please everyone. My main market is Europe. Thanks for the feedback anyway.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 19 April 2015, 04:53:35
Your main market is Europe. So you want to fail? The biggest number of enthusiasts is in the USA and in Korea. some of the best pcbs are made in Korea by gon and winkeyless. Serious question, where do you think that we are going to purchase our pcb?Had high hopes for this buy but am extremely disappointed. Plates are in the Poker style for stabs, which is incompatable with Korean PCB's (only in the case of pcb mount cherry stabs). due to they fact that Poker 2's have stabs with wire directed down on the space and enter key while Gon/winkeyless boards have those both facing up. Might have to bite the bullet for a gon plate.Sorry, but I cannot please everyone. My main market is Europe. Thanks for the feedback anyway.
Ok, by "main market" i mean that Europe will benifit most from this because of the low shipping cost compared to plates from the United States. If you look at the platedesign and find something essential missing, tell me and i will look at it. I don't know where you will buy your PCB from as there are very limited available. Hand wiring is the main option, but if someone wants to help me with PCB design, i am more than happy to contact suppliers about it :)
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 19 April 2015, 04:56:21
Maybe some of you could help him with the design? This could benefit us all...
Why would someone use pcb mounted stabs when the switch are plate mounted... Is the feeling different? More soft?So you can use this with a gon, but you need plate mounted stabs?
Either that or ruining the plate by trying to sand it down. The metal wire will contact the plate on those two keys and both ping and prevent a full extension which affects the feel of the switch. I can understand why he chose the Poker layout as that's a much larger market for 60% (pokers,GH60's). Trying to find a cheap plate that fits Korean boards is difficult to say the least.
It fits Costar and Cherry stabs. That is the only stuff i know so far from SwillKB's designer. I have tried one of the early prototypes with Costar stabs and it worked fluently. I don't see why it shouldn't fit Cherry plate mounted stabilizers, but people keep telling me. I appreciate your feedback.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 19 April 2015, 23:44:56
(http://i.imgur.com/DgnqOFn.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/4Z4IQwi.png)
The GB thread will start the 5th of may. Thanks for all the support and criticism. For those who wonder what my site will be used for, it is just to get all the information and pictures together at one place.
Have a nice day!
L
Post by: duckness on Mon, 20 April 2015, 00:32:28
Please take a look and tell me what you think. This is ANSI advanced.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DgnqOFn.png)
Just wondering, would a screw actually fit where the middle hole is?
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 20 April 2015, 00:35:33
Yes. It looks weird, but this is how the design is done. Exactly as one my Poker 3 :)Please take a look and tell me what you think. This is ANSI advanced.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DgnqOFn.png)
Just wondering, would a screw actually fit where the middle hole is?
Post by: Ruisu on Mon, 20 April 2015, 03:10:08
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 20 April 2015, 03:18:56
Install the plate mounted stabs.
Install some switches.
Show that you can remove the top of the switches and that the cutouts are big enough.
Etc.
Hello again! Guess what!? The samples are ready in China. Should I get them to send it over or are the pictures enough? Please take a look and tell me what you think. This is ANSI advanced.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DgnqOFn.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/4Z4IQwi.png)
The GB thread will start the 5th of may. Thanks for all the support and criticism. For those who wonder what my site will be used for, it is just to get all the information and pictures together at one place.
Have a nice day!
L
Post by: suicidal_orange on Mon, 20 April 2015, 03:20:58
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 20 April 2015, 03:41:46
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 20 April 2015, 03:42:49
Hi LeandreN, Looks good although the brushing seems a little rough, these are stainless right?Will ask about stainless, probably yes. It is a little rough because Cherry stabilizer cutouts are really thin for their equipment.
Post by: Giorgio on Mon, 20 April 2015, 04:02:49
Hi LeandreN, Looks good although the brushing seems a little rough, these are stainless right?Will ask about stainless, probably yes. It is a little rough because Cherry stabilizer cutouts are really thin for their equipment.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 20 April 2015, 04:12:51
Wouldn't it be much better to brush it before doing the cut? It will be more uniform, and less risk to deforme it too. I wonder what an unbrushed plate looks like. About the thickness... Is 1,6mm what cherry requires?They brush it the way it is easiest for them. I am pretty sure they do it before they cut. 1,5 is the thickness. That is also the standard Cherry thickness.Hi LeandreN, Looks good although the brushing seems a little rough, these are stainless right?Will ask about stainless, probably yes. It is a little rough because Cherry stabilizer cutouts are really thin for their equipment.
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 20 April 2015, 08:48:31
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 20 April 2015, 08:54:03
Sample is quite good. It is great for poker 2 & poker 3 but poker 1 is not. Sorry but I have to say this, Poker 1 is better with PCB mounted stabs.
Okay. I will be ordering the sample for both ISO and ANSI and check everything before i start a groupbuy. Keep it mind that this is the standard layout.
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 20 April 2015, 09:02:23
Sample is quite good. It is great for poker 2 & poker 3 but poker 1 is not. Sorry but I have to say this, Poker 1 is better with PCB mounted stabs.
Okay. I will be ordering the sample for both ISO and ANSI and check everything before i start a groupbuy. Keep it mind that this is the standard layout.
Yes, I see. Glad to see your checking although I don't worry about layout.
I see you 'll do standard layout.
Can you try with PCB mounted stabs? Hope it fit :)
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 20 April 2015, 09:33:00
Sample is quite good. It is great for poker 2 & poker 3 but poker 1 is not. Sorry but I have to say this, Poker 1 is better with PCB mounted stabs.
Okay. I will be ordering the sample for both ISO and ANSI and check everything before i start a groupbuy. Keep it mind that this is the standard layout.
Yes, I see. Glad to see your checking although I don't worry about layout.
I see you 'll do standard layout.
Can you try with PCB mounted stabs? Hope it fit :)
I don't own a PCB, but if i can do it without one, i will see what i can do. (i have to pay for alll this). Updated website BTW: http://leandre.webs.com/groupbuys. Do you know of any cheap places to buy Cherry stabilizers?
Post by: quochung1989 on Mon, 20 April 2015, 09:46:02
But shipping from Korea to Norway is not cheap if you only buy 1 set.
Or you can contact Ivanivanovich to ask. Hope he still spare some sets.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 20 April 2015, 09:55:36
Cheap? How much is it? I saw it is sold around 7$ in Korea.
But shipping from Korea to Norway is not cheap if you only buy 1 set.
Or you can contact Ivanivanovich to ask. Hope he still spare some sets.
Thanks for helping out. Will look at it.
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 20 April 2015, 11:22:37
Please fill out the form :)
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 21 April 2015, 10:46:51
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/lymph/IMG_1224_zpsb30075b2.jpg)
(Source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50048.0).
But I still hope you can test if you can.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 21 April 2015, 11:08:49
Photo to confirm PCB mounted stabilizer fit plate:Show Image(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/lymph/IMG_1224_zpsb30075b2.jpg)
(Source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50048.0).
But I still hope you can test if you can.
Thanks! I will still test it if i get the opportunity. The plate uses different mount holes than mine though...
Post by: quochung1989 on Tue, 21 April 2015, 11:19:18
Photo to confirm PCB mounted stabilizer fit plate:Show Image(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/lymph/IMG_1224_zpsb30075b2.jpg)
(Source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50048.0).
But I still hope you can test if you can.
Thanks! I will still test it if i get the opportunity. The plate uses different mount holes than mine though...
Yes. It isn't have center hole like you but it have capslock hole.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 21 April 2015, 11:28:35
OK :)Photo to confirm PCB mounted stabilizer fit plate:Show Image(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a258/lymph/IMG_1224_zpsb30075b2.jpg)
(Source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50048.0).
But I still hope you can test if you can.
Thanks! I will still test it if i get the opportunity. The plate uses different mount holes than mine though...
Yes. It isn't have center hole like you but it have capslock hole.
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 25 April 2015, 03:42:38
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 25 April 2015, 04:29:03
Also... That brushed finish, as someone else said, is really too rough and ugly. I could do a better job with a cheap sand paper. Maybe you could ask for other finishing treatments? All, really all, the plates sold here are very smooth, with a very nice texture.
Post by: lolpes on Sat, 25 April 2015, 08:47:13
Post by: Giorgio on Sat, 25 April 2015, 09:08:10
If the price stays low i really don't mind if the finishing is rough, some sandpaper and done :)
Post by: lolpes on Sat, 25 April 2015, 09:11:38
Post by: Pietdagamer on Mon, 27 April 2015, 12:59:10
This plate will fit in this case (http://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/frontpage/products/60-aluminium-case) right?
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 27 April 2015, 13:07:00
I am defenitly interested in this, since I have been planning to build a 60% keyboard.
This plate will fit in this case (http://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/frontpage/products/60-aluminium-case) right?
Thats's the plan, yes :)
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 28 April 2015, 00:32:19
If the price stays the same, then sure a smooth finish is better :) i'm just saying I don't mind doing it myself if it comes to that :)I will look at some different finishes. Samples are ordered, I just need to pay the shipping and they will send it.
Post by: LeandreN on Tue, 28 April 2015, 00:34:43
Post by: awhitedev on Thu, 30 April 2015, 19:09:17
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 01 May 2015, 00:55:59
Sorry if this is a dumb question... but will there be an option for an ANSI 150 (7u spacebar) layout?It is just standard Poker layout. Nothing special.
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 01 May 2015, 11:57:35
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DgnqOFn.png)
Wait, what are the bend/angled plates in the background? Ö_Ö
The cutouts look non-staggered/linear to me from this angle... Are they lubing stations by any Chance?
I would be super interested in something like a standalone (GON skinny/ infinity60 case style) lubing station! :)
So if thats what it is I would be really stoked :thumb:
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 01 May 2015, 14:41:38
The angled stuff in the back is /u/Vistination's 6 key switch testers.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DgnqOFn.png)
Wait, what are the bend/angled plates in the background? Ö_Ö
The cutouts look non-staggered/linear to me from this angle... Are they lubing stations by any Chance?
I would be super interested in something like a standalone (GON skinny/ infinity60 case style) lubing station! :)
So if thats what it is I would be really stoked :thumb:
This is a plate and no lubeastation :-/
the mountholes have notches for top removal.
Post by: Dihedral on Fri, 01 May 2015, 14:55:34
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DgnqOFn.png)
Wait, what are the bend/angled plates in the background? Ö_Ö
The cutouts look non-staggered/linear to me from this angle... Are they lubing stations by any Chance?
I would be super interested in something like a standalone (GON skinny/ infinity60 case style) lubing station! :)
So if thats what it is I would be really stoked :thumb:
You may be interested in my Steel Switch Holder. It works quite well as a mini-lubing station. Click the leftmost image in my thumbnail for more info
Sorry Leandre for derailing your topic :P
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 01 May 2015, 14:56:44
No problem Dihedral.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/DgnqOFn.png)
Wait, what are the bend/angled plates in the background? Ö_Ö
The cutouts look non-staggered/linear to me from this angle... Are they lubing stations by any Chance?
I would be super interested in something like a standalone (GON skinny/ infinity60 case style) lubing station! :)
So if thats what it is I would be really stoked :thumb:
You may be interested in my Steel Switch Holder. It works quite well as a mini-lubing station. Click the leftmost image in my thumbnail for more info
Sorry Leandre for derailing your topic
I also own one of his they're are also good :) !
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 01 May 2015, 14:56:52
It was hard to tell the size (of the switchtester) with the crop of the picture tho. And when I saw right angles I thought you did infinity style cases first, the noticed linear cuts and guessed lubestation.
Post by: LeandreN on Fri, 01 May 2015, 14:59:08
Sorry Lean, I know your mainly doing 60% plates and didn't mean to upset you... =/It is okay. Sorry but this is only plates.
It was hard to tell the size (of the switchtester) with the crop of the picture tho. And when I saw right angles I thought you did infinity style cases first, the noticed linear cuts and guessed lubestation.
Yeah it looks like it in the picture, but as I said it is /u/Vistinations 6 key switch tester you can buy at sentrantpc.com.
I also recommend Dihedral's switch tester you can maybe use as a lubestation. (See the comments over)
Edit: and you didn't upset me at all :) sorry if it sounds like it
Post by: FoC_Tow on Fri, 01 May 2015, 16:44:03
And also thx Dihedral! I really like yours as a switch tester/display! =)
I would really love to have something slightly bigger (ideally about 60% size and linear) for this tho. Ill keep investigating for a bit! :)
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 02 May 2015, 01:18:30
Thx Lean! =) Just checked the Link, hadn't seen this one before!Good luck ! :)
And also thx Dihedral! I really like yours as a switch tester/display! =)
I would really love to have something slightly bigger (ideally about 60% size and linear) for this tho. Ill keep investigating for a bit! :)
Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 02 May 2015, 03:42:19
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Post by: LeandreN on Sat, 20 June 2015, 09:11:55
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1vIAHkuyoQYYUnhIS2hlT0KI5_0TaCbMLpxGBnVFV45A/viewform?usp=send_form
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 06 July 2015, 10:00:32
Universal 60% plate. ISO, ANSI, JIS and Brazilian layout available. Many different bottom rows is supported. Everything in one layout.
Black anodized aluminium.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/06/ad0fa3a7a07d23495d90f38486442dd6.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/06/494b663ce12addc35ada9b2095010a80.jpg)
Post by: VinnyCordeiro on Mon, 06 July 2015, 10:07:38
How do you guys think it look?You had me on "Brazilian layout". :D :D :D Count me in for some, and a possible partnership on a future crowdfunding here in Brazil. :cool:
Universal 60% plate. ISO, ANSI, JIS and Brazilian layout available. Many different bottom rows is supported. Everything in one layout.
Black anodized aluminium.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/06/ad0fa3a7a07d23495d90f38486442dd6.jpg)Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/06/494b663ce12addc35ada9b2095010a80.jpg)
Post by: LeandreN on Mon, 06 July 2015, 10:52:43
Nothing is confirmed, but I hope we can collaborate in the future ! :)How do you guys think it look?You had me on "Brazilian layout". :D :D :D Count me in for some, and a possible partnership on a future crowdfunding here in Brazil. :cool:
Universal 60% plate. ISO, ANSI, JIS and Brazilian layout available. Many different bottom rows is supported. Everything in one layout.
Black anodized aluminium.Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/06/ad0fa3a7a07d23495d90f38486442dd6.jpg)Show Image(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/06/494b663ce12addc35ada9b2095010a80.jpg)
Post by: Karura on Sun, 12 July 2015, 04:20:37
Support for short right shift + Fn
Support for both full-size and stepped capslock
Support for both winkeyless and winkey bottom row
Cutout in plate to allow stabilizer wire removal
Removable switch top notches
Stainless steel
Is this possible?