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Title: [IC] GMK STORM l Running from 12th January until 12th February
Post by: sp.people on Fri, 30 October 2020, 02:13:11
(https://i.imgur.com/h0kvbPU.png)


Hello,
Today we present you with Storm.

Have you ever seen the sky before the storm? It's really amazing.
This is a keycap design that looks like a stormy sky. It represents various cloud colours.
Colours are often related to settings. The stormy sky coloured the gradation and we thought this would be cool for people other than ourself.

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I’m not fluent in English. I don't know if it makes sense, but please understand.

Thank you for your feedback from IC.
The first survey is over, and the design has been changed based on the feedback from the survey! Also, the IC Form for the changed design has been renewed.




New IC FORM
We would greatly appreciate a moment of your time to fill out this form and provide
Google IC Form :https://forms.gle/Nrxo1RRmREoMgNuo8

We confirmed the estimate and production schedule of the design with GMK.
The interest check form has now finished and using the feedback from the surveys we have made some final changes to our designs!





Kits


(https://i.imgur.com/txvejFV.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/HF0O3kw.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/nAyhx2h.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/7bj9xWh.png)


KIT Support
• 40%
• 60%
• 65%
• 70%
• 75%
• TKL
• Full Size
• 1800




Colors

(https://i.imgur.com/krN4b01.png)




Renders

(https://i.imgur.com/g0tnZM7.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/Y2AQeXN.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/xHhsBj2.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/4lvQLIQ.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/cjhIQz1.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/KbOwgQ0.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/jZlaq81.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/VEV8GYz.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/QLrrCPj.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/2vijyRk.png)




Deskmats

(https://i.imgur.com/vc33Nwj.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/2AFz8zq.png)


Deskmat SPECS
• 900x400x4mm
• Natural Rubber Base&Soft Polyester Bottom
• Stitched Edges
• Cloth Top





COLLABORATIONS
Casper Keys - Custom Metal Keycap


Lightning
(https://i.imgur.com/AuAQDDQ.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/S8ZSlWp.png)



Hurricane
(https://i.imgur.com/MjlBcRf.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/L8KcOqA.png)


Metal Novelties SPECS
• Cherry R1 1u
• MX Stem
• Material: Anodized Aluminum 6061-T6
• Weight: approximately 4.9g




COLLABORATIONS
Nerdcables

https://www.nerdcables.com/ (https://www.nerdcables.com/)

(https://i.imgur.com/3j3VyhZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vPPKLPU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BSoZoAJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/LydLx24.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Muc3DZ4.jpg)

Cable SPECS
"Storm” is a platinum on gunmetal grey 6 inch coiled cable with grey accents.
And a carbon on gunmetal grey straight cable with grey accents.
They are connected by a gunmetal grey 5 pin aviator connecter.
*Option for chrome aviator




Vendors
•  AMERICA : KONO
•  CANADA : DeskHero
•  OCEANIA : Daily Clack
•  EUROPE : MyKeyboard
•  ASIA : iLumKB
•  CHINA : zFrontier





Group Buy Date
January 12th 2021




TO DO  LIST
- Gather feedback from IC form
- Add more renders
- Get pricing quotes
- Contact vendors
- Plan a date for the GB
- Announce Pricing





UPDATE
(08/11/2020)
- Design has been changed based on the feedback from IC Form.
- Started new IC Form.
- Changed Base, Spacebars kits.
- Added Forties, Novelties kits.
- Changed colors.
- Changed deskmat spec.
- Added To-Do list.

(12/11/2020)
- Changed the color of R3 'Enter key'.
- Changed the Spacebars to Convex


(24/11/2020)
[Base Kit]
- Changed the color 'ESC' key(bottom)
- Added the R3 1U (|\) keys(2 colors)

[Renders]
- Added 40% Keyboard
- Added TKL Keyboard
- Changed Keyboard


(02/12/2020)
- Added Vendors


(04/12/2020)
- Updated COLLABORATIONS Metal Novelties


(07/12/2020)
- Added America Vendor
- GB schedule confirmed. (Will run from 12th January 2021)




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Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM
Post by: dandruff on Fri, 30 October 2020, 02:15:11
Are you sure GMK is willing to work with that many colors?

May heavily affect price/moq
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM
Post by: Ireojimayo on Fri, 30 October 2020, 02:18:29
8 custom colours monkaW

Edit: kekW no longer GMK

Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 30 October 2020, 02:19:56
Why 3mm deskmats? 3mm tend to show wrinkles more and the cost to make it 4mm isn't really going to effect your profit that much on the mats.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM
Post by: Agilr on Fri, 30 October 2020, 02:22:56
It's about to storm here...
Title: Re: [IC] STORM CONCEPT
Post by: xernnn on Fri, 30 October 2020, 02:48:13
Why'd you change it and not address it?
Title: Re: [IC] STORM CONCEPT
Post by: Anthixious on Fri, 30 October 2020, 02:52:16
I'm liking the shade of color altering from top top bottom, a bit concerned like dandruff for the ability to color match from $manufacturer's side of things, may want to look into a broader white-grey-black color spectrum. The rolling thunder/clouds deskmat look absolutely stunning, every time I look at it, I can feel emotions building up from within me. Please please please look into making this mat 4mm thickness. The other design looks fun as well!
Title: Re: [IC] STORM CONCEPT
Post by: norb on Fri, 30 October 2020, 13:57:53
the deskmat is killer, but matching 8 custom grey colors with the current progess speed will take at least two years alone :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] STORM CONCEPT
Post by: devilDesignsKB on Fri, 30 October 2020, 14:18:12
this definitely llooks like a first key cap set design, maybe more practice is good before bringing to IC, but i think i saw you made KAT LALA too so i don't know, i think the colors just don't work well here and it just gives off amateur design vibes picking out random dark colors, kind of 'cheap'?.. sry

update: never mind, ii take back what I said. Apologies. it is essential to bring to IC in order to learn and improve. Have a good day and Good luck
Title: Re: [IC] STORM CONCEPT
Post by: huey on Fri, 30 October 2020, 14:21:59
Interesting set. I don't think the Pantone for the number row is the best choice as it does look good outside of the theme imo. Though I understand why you have it that way. I think the rest of the choices for the alphas are decent.

I would also suggest getting more renders of boards sized larger than a 60 variant.
Title: Re: [IC] STORM CONCEPT
Post by: Owl on Fri, 30 October 2020, 17:14:54
I like it so far. If I may add my own two-cents, I am imagining a slightly different approach. Like maybe do ALL the keys in one of the grays, or gradient of grays, and have alphas be a more "colored" gradient downwards. So like a layered gradient. I think it would "open up" the layout and give it that sky feeling while also utilizing the complex color palette. Either way off to a good start. Interested to see how it develops because I love me some thunderstorms!
Title: Re: [IC] STORM CONCEPT
Post by: SpinningHook on Fri, 30 October 2020, 17:22:10
Whereas, I understand that the amount of colors can have a potentially negative impact on the logistics of making this set, I still am heavily appreciating the colorway despite typically not caring for gradient sets. I will definitely consider purchasing if this goes to the group buy phase at some point.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM
Post by: 3ditda on Sat, 07 November 2020, 10:16:07
Are you sure GMK is willing to work with that many colors?

May heavily affect price/moq
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM
Post by: sp.people on Sat, 07 November 2020, 10:31:34
Why 3mm deskmats? 3mm tend to show wrinkles more and the cost to make it 4mm isn't really going to effect your profit that much on the mats.
   Through your feedback has changed the thickness of the deskmat from 3mm to 4mm. Thank you for your information and feedback.
Title: Re: [IC] STORM CONCEPT
Post by: sp.people on Sat, 07 November 2020, 10:39:29
I'm liking the shade of color altering from top top bottom, a bit concerned like dandruff for the ability to color match from $manufacturer's side of things, may want to look into a broader white-grey-black color spectrum. The rolling thunder/clouds deskmat look absolutely stunning, every time I look at it, I can feel emotions building up from within me. Please please please look into making this mat 4mm thickness. The other design looks fun as well!
First of all, thank you for your feedback.
We adjusted the color, changed grey gradation, and changed the thickness of the deskmat
from 3mm to 4mm with your feedback.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM
Post by: norb on Sat, 07 November 2020, 10:59:40
wait, the awesome deskmat is gone?  :(
Title: Re: [IC] STORM CONCEPT
Post by: sp.people on Sat, 07 November 2020, 11:01:30
Are you sure GMK is willing to work with that many colors?

May heavily affect price/moq
Thank you for the first comment.
We changed the color and design through IC FORM. However, there are still 7 colors.  :confused:
We are currently in discussion with GMK. Please support us a lot.

this definitely llooks like a first key cap set design, maybe more practice is good before bringing to IC, but i think i saw you made KAT LALA too so i don't know, i think the colors just don't work well here and it just gives off amateur design vibes picking out random dark colors, kind of 'cheap'?.. sry

update: never mind, ii take back what I said. Apologies. it is essential to bring to IC in order to learn and improve. Have a good day and Good luck
Thank you for your feedback.
We thought a lot about color internally. This is the result of everyone's agreement to make
gradation products. We will do our best to make it a good design. Please support us a lot.

Interesting set. I don't think the Pantone for the number row is the best choice as it does look good outside of the theme imo. Though I understand why you have it that way. I think the rest of the choices for the alphas are decent.

I would also suggest getting more renders of boards sized larger than a 60 variant.
Thank you for your feedback.
We're going to offer a range of rendering images in the future.

I like it so far. If I may add my own two-cents, I am imagining a slightly different approach. Like maybe do ALL the keys in one of the grays, or gradient of grays, and have alphas be a more "colored" gradient downwards. So like a layered gradient. I think it would "open up" the layout and give it that sky feeling while also utilizing the complex color palette. Either way off to a good start. Interested to see how it develops because I love me some thunderstorms!
Thank you for liking our design. We adjusted the color, changed grey gradation
Please keep watching us develop. Please support us. :thumb:

Whereas, I understand that the amount of colors can have a potentially negative impact on the logistics of making this set, I still am heavily appreciating the colorway despite typically not caring for gradient sets. I will definitely consider purchasing if this goes to the group buy phase at some point.
Thank you for liking our concept. We changed the color from 8 to 7. we plan to
continue talking with the manufacturer about the color and try to make the product until
the end. We'll try to make it possible for you to buy. Please pray for us. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM
Post by: sp.people on Sat, 07 November 2020, 11:19:59
wait, the awesome deskmat is gone?  :(
We changed it because many people like the pattern image more. It's not a final decision yet. Please give us your feedback through IC Form.sorry about that.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: sp.people on Wed, 11 November 2020, 19:50:30
UPDATE
(12/11/2020)
- Changed the color of R3 'Enter key'.
- Changed the Spacebars to Convex
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: Pach on Wed, 11 November 2020, 21:46:03
Cool concept, nice IC. If you manage to work it out with GMK and have a modest retail price (I feel like around 150 USD would be a fair price considering you have so many colors, I don't know if many people are willing to pay much more for a GMK set at retail) it would be very good.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: HungHingDaiLo on Wed, 11 November 2020, 22:14:57
Filled the IC form.
Just curious, what does SP from your username (sp.people) stand for?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: bigfishkb on Thu, 12 November 2020, 00:00:18
I'm drooling. I love grey sets. I'm all over this, especially with 40s support.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: sp.people on Thu, 12 November 2020, 06:00:48
Cool concept, nice IC. If you manage to work it out with GMK and have a modest retail price (I feel like around 150 USD would be a fair price considering you have so many colors, I don't know if many people are willing to pay much more for a GMK set at retail) it would be very good.
Thank you for liking our concept.

We are discussing the design estimate and production schedule with GMK.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: sp.people on Thu, 12 November 2020, 06:08:13
Filled the IC form.
Just curious, what does SP from your username (sp.people) stand for?
Thank you for filling out the IC form.

SP has many meanings.
In other words, "S" means Strategy, Success, Start, Super….And "P" means Plan, Play, Project, Positive, Potential…. etc.
It's a company created by people with this kind of thinking.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: sp.people on Thu, 12 November 2020, 06:14:35
I'm drooling. I love grey sets. I'm all over this, especially with 40s support.
Thank you for loving us all.

We didn’t make 40's kits with the first design. we added it from IC Form feedback which It helps me make the kit better! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: pol139 on Fri, 13 November 2020, 19:13:18
It feels like a storm.  I like it and cheer for you. :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: TPT on Sun, 15 November 2020, 08:50:18
Looking at the base kit, I don't quite see the point of the light Esc key. I would rather have an R1 alpha coloured Esc like you have in the 660 renders.

Also, the ISO in the base kit is unusable since it is missing an R3 1u key to go with the ISO enter.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: sp.people on Sun, 15 November 2020, 20:01:43
Looking at the base kit, I don't quite see the point of the light Esc key. I would rather have an R1 alpha coloured Esc like you have in the 660 renders.

Also, the ISO in the base kit is unusable since it is missing an R3 1u key to go with the ISO enter.

Thank you for your feedback.
The base is configured with 2 colors of ESC. One is R1-RAL7016, and the other is R4-RAL7001.
Is the color you want R1 RAL 7015?(Please check our colors)

Also, 40's has the R3 ‘1U’ Enter key you talked about. Please tell me again if what I understand is wrong.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: TPT on Mon, 16 November 2020, 03:30:56
I am talking about RAL 7015, so the Esc key would fit in line with the number row on 60% and 65% layouts. You even seem to have rendered it in that colour right here:

(https://i.imgur.com/thxKiQq.png)


Sorry for not being clear enough about the ISO situation. In order to accomodate an ISO layout, one needs an R3 pipe key to the left of the ISO enter. See this image for reference:

(https://www.computerhope.com/cdn/keyboard/pipe.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: sp.people on Mon, 16 November 2020, 05:22:01
I am talking about RAL 7015, so the Esc key would fit in line with the number row on 60% and 65% layouts. You even seem to have rendered it in that colour right here:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/thxKiQq.png)



Sorry for not being clear enough about the ISO situation. In order to accomodate an ISO layout, one needs an R3 pipe key to the left of the ISO enter. See this image for reference:

Show Image
(https://www.computerhope.com/cdn/keyboard/pipe.jpg)


Thank you very much for explaining it in the images.
We told the designer that we would actively reflect your feedback.  :thumb: Thank you for helping us.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED KITS(Novelties, Forties)!!
Post by: sp.people on Mon, 16 November 2020, 05:22:50
It feels like a storm.  I like it and cheer for you. :-*
Thank you for cheering us on.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED More Renders
Post by: sp.people on Tue, 24 November 2020, 02:46:01
(24/11/2020)
[Base Kit]
- Changed the color 'ESC' key(bottom)
- Added the R3 1U (|\) keys(2 colors)

[Renders]
- Added 40% Keyboard
- Added TKL Keyboard
- Changed Keyboard
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED More Renders
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 24 November 2020, 05:10:15
Very interested in this kit to allow some mixing with other sets.  Please add UK ISO kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED More Renders
Post by: santela on Tue, 24 November 2020, 07:38:38
I love different shades of gray, so this is very interesting to me, but I would like an option of a gradient mods kit to match the alphas for a more clean look. It doesn't have to be the base option, but as an additional kit is fine.

Also congrats on the colors, it really does give the sense of a storm coming, well done.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED More Renders
Post by: sp.people on Wed, 25 November 2020, 05:59:58
Very interested in this kit to allow some mixing with other sets.  Please add UK ISO kit.
Thank you for your feedback.
Sorry about that. Although there were feedbacks, it is regrettable that it could not implement various kits to achieve MOQ.



I love different shades of gray, so this is very interesting to me, but I would like an option of a gradient mods kit to match the alphas for a more clean look. It doesn't have to be the base option, but as an additional kit is fine.

Also congrats on the colors, it really does give the sense of a storm coming, well done.
Thank you for your feedback.
We confirmed the estimate and production schedule of the design with GMK.
The interest check form has now finished and using the feedback from the surveys we have made some final changes to our designs!
Sorry about that. Although there were feedbacks, it is regrettable that it could not implement various kits to achieve MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED More Renders
Post by: pol139 on Sat, 28 November 2020, 05:55:42
When does the GB start?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED More Renders
Post by: GSPADE on Sat, 28 November 2020, 07:57:07
Dark like my soul, love this <3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED More Renders
Post by: insurgent on Sun, 29 November 2020, 23:46:16
when do you start GB?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED More Renders
Post by: sp.people on Mon, 30 November 2020, 06:27:22
When does the GB start?

We are currently discussing GB date with vendors. I'll let you know as soon as possible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED More Renders
Post by: sp.people on Mon, 30 November 2020, 06:27:50
when do you start GB?

We are currently discussing GB date with vendors. I'll let you know as soon as possible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED More Renders
Post by: Beenoman on Mon, 30 November 2020, 10:25:51
Getting KAT Iron vibes, also won't this take forever to produce? With that many custom colors that looks like that would take forever.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED More Renders
Post by: hottrout on Tue, 01 December 2020, 03:58:25
I feel that this set would really benefit from more work on the kits and more kits as well.  The colour way is great and it lends itself to a more universal set rather than a novelty set.  This could work on so many builds and boards. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM : UPDATED More Renders
Post by: sp.people on Tue, 01 December 2020, 19:55:04
Update (02/12/2020)
- Added Vendors
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM l Update: Metal Novelties Added
Post by: sp.people on Thu, 03 December 2020, 20:34:42
(04/12/2020)
- Updated COLLABORATIONS Metal Novelties
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM l Update: Metal Novelties Added
Post by: pol139 on Thu, 03 December 2020, 20:55:18
WOW very nice custom metal...I cant wait
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM l Update: Metal Novelties Added
Post by: shortdog6 on Fri, 04 December 2020, 19:53:00
Nice novelties ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM l Update: Metal Novelties Added
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 05 December 2020, 09:49:07
Looking at the base kit, the Enter accents don't make a lot of sense to me. You're essentially making them alpha-colored, so they will blend in with the alphas while the rest of the mods stay dark gray, which effectively defeats the purpose of having accent keys. Try rendering a board with one of the accent Enters and you'll see what I mean.

There are some keys that can be removed from the base kit:
Also, I recommend changing the R4 1u \| ISO key to <> to avoid duplicate keys and offer slightly more generic basic coverage. See here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90706.msg2894820#msg2894820) for more details.



Since 40s kits in GMK sets have been selling poorly lately, the 40% community has come up with a recommendation for designers to drop the 40s kit entirely, and instead add three keys to the base kit, which enable basic 40s support. These three keys are:
By adding these to your base kit, you provide physical compatibility for the majority of popular staggered 40% boards. However, ortho boards aren't covered by this. It's your call what you want to do here, but keep in mind that a large number of recently ran GMK sets have had to cancel their 40s kits and refund the customers, which is a pain in the butt for everyone involved.



One more set of suggestions, this time regarding the spacebars kit:

Edit: formatting
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM l Update: Metal Novelties Added
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sat, 05 December 2020, 12:59:14
I dont know if I'm interested in the gradient, good theme I Guess
and better kitting than most other people in this IC forum
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM l Update: Metal Novelties Added
Post by: sp.people on Mon, 07 December 2020, 02:33:29
(07/12/2020)
- Added America Vendor
- GB schedule confirmed. (Will run from 12th January 2021)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM l Update: Metal Novelties Added
Post by: VellFlamm on Mon, 07 December 2020, 04:57:37
R4 1.25Shift should kinda trending to be paired with "<>" not "\|"
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM l Update: Metal Novelties Added
Post by: cs on Fri, 11 December 2020, 13:05:10
This kit has a narrower color spectrum compare to KAT iron. R2 and R3 color matching will be the key here, getting the saturation and hue is really crucial, and the slightest mismatch, say in R3, will set you back to redo the color match for R2, and vice-versa. Is it possible to get a color match before GB?
If this is done properly, this is going to an amazing kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM l Update: Metal Novelties Added
Post by: whezil on Tue, 12 January 2021, 02:42:16
This is a beautiful colorway. The novelties remind me of storm chaser, really neat.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM l Update: Metal Novelties Added
Post by: dvorcol on Sun, 17 January 2021, 16:44:51
Are you planning to open a GB thread on Geekhack?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM l Running from 12th January until 12th February
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 28 January 2021, 17:31:31
Since you dont have a GB thread, you wanna post the current sales numbers here?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK STORM l Running from 12th January until 12th February
Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 29 January 2021, 17:34:56
Are you planning to open a GB thread on Geekhack?

Since you dont have a GB thread, you wanna post the current sales numbers here?

GB page is open! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110901.0)