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Title: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Tue, 16 March 2021, 14:49:32
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GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks

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GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks is a custom keyset in the Cherry profile manufactured in high-quality ABS plastic by GMK electronic design GmbH. It consists of a single kit containing blank keycaps in one of the most commonly used GMK stock colors: WS1 white. These keys are compatible with a wide range of Ergodoxian & Ortholinear boards, many of which can be seen in the list below. They can either be used on their own (for a fully blank layout) or as an addon, making it easy to adapt a separate set of Cherry profile keycaps (not included) to an Ergo or Ortho layout.

This keyset will be my third custom keyset Group Buy (GB) and my first GMK GB. PWade3 performed all renders for this set.

Example Boards Supported

Vendors

The dates for the Group Buy (GB) have not yet been set. During the GB period, the following vendors will host preorders of GMK WS1 Blanks.


MOQ, Pricing, & Bulk Discounts

Customer pricing is not yet finalized, but based on the quotes I would estimate that the US pricing will be around 60.00-70.00 USD, possibly much less. Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ) is currently slated to be 250 units, though that may change.

Unlike a typical GB, we will be offering a bulk discount to resellers at a greatly reduced margin. After the GB completes, it is my hope that GMK WS1 Blanks will serve as an excellent in-stock item for keyset sellers worldwide. I believe it will help fill a niche for high-quality, highly-available Cherry profile Ergo keycaps (which, from personal experience, can be very difficult to procure).

Vendors interested in the bulk purchases should contact me via Discord or register your interest with the Survey. Pricing will vary by locale and quantity purchased; further discounts are possible for vendors with an established relationship with GMK.

Renders
All GMK WS1 Blanks will use GMK’s stock WS1 white plastic. Other sets and alpha colorways (not included) are approximated to the best of our abilities. Please note that some inaccuracy is always possible in rendered representations of color. Further renders (https://nopunin10did.com/gmk-ws1-blanks/#renders) can be found the official Wordpress home page.


(https://i.imgur.com/ar8Sn0s.png) (https://i.imgur.com/8Ar2Xwz.png)
JTK Griseann used with permission from HoodrowThrillson. Sol 3 keyboard used by permission from RGBKB (GB May 2021: https://www.rgbkb.net). Renders by PWade3. (More Sol 3 Renders (https://nopunin10did.com/gmk-ws1-blanks/#jp-carousel-964))


(https://i.imgur.com/qlmoC9E.png) (https://i.imgur.com/LD3TbkM.png)
GMK Deep Navy used with permission from *tom. Minorca keyboard by alex (panc.co). Renders by PWade3. (More Minorca Renders (https://nopunin10did.com/gmk-ws1-blanks/#jp-carousel-983))


(https://i.imgur.com/gdHUBfj.png) (https://i.imgur.com/04zH02r.png)
JTK Royal Alpha used with permission from HoodrowThrillson. Campine keyboard by alex (panc.co). Configured with Boardwalk PCB by Shensmobile & MKUltra. Render by PWade3. (More Campine Boardwalk Renders (https://nopunin10did.com/gmk-ws1-blanks/#jp-carousel-975))


(https://i.imgur.com/jJuln2H.png) (https://i.imgur.com/LCLXqkf.png)
GMK Taro used with permission from PWade3. Boardrun CNC edition used by permission from Shensmobile. Render by PWade3. (More Boardrun Renders (https://nopunin10did.com/gmk-ws1-blanks/#jp-carousel-967))




Home Page: https://nopunin10did.com/gmk-ws1-blanks/ (https://nopunin10did.com/gmk-ws1-blanks/)

Survey: https://forms.gle/aRnPsjbLrr7pwJMy5 (https://forms.gle/aRnPsjbLrr7pwJMy5)

Discord: NoPunIn10Key (https://discord.gg/GVanAmPDCH)

See Also: DSS Late Harvest (https://nopunin10did.com/dss-late-harvest/)



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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: scoopbb on Tue, 16 March 2021, 14:50:38
oh baby im in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: danliu on Tue, 16 March 2021, 15:07:37
I gotta have this!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: nasp on Tue, 16 March 2021, 15:09:12
Love seeing more ergo/ortho sets run. Thanks for organizing this.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: Bub on Tue, 16 March 2021, 15:10:18
awesome, nopun. your passion and insight for ortho and 40s layout is contagious! also pwade renders are lookin good!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: Rossman360 on Tue, 16 March 2021, 15:13:56
mighty fine lookin' indeed
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: YMwoo on Tue, 16 March 2021, 19:23:03
Amazing kit! If only more sets support ergo
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: HungHingDaiLo on Tue, 16 March 2021, 21:41:41
Super nice.
GLWIC & GLWGB, NoPun!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: kim-kim on Tue, 16 March 2021, 21:57:27
Long time no see ergo IC, so nice :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Tue, 16 March 2021, 22:17:28
Thanks everyone!

And since I’ve gotten some questions about it: no, I’m not running a second CR black kit this time. Just WS1. If this does well, I will revisit the concept for other stock colors.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: InvXXVII on Tue, 16 March 2021, 22:33:34
Ortholinear/ergo keycaps can be used on normal keyboards right? I commonly see keycaps being classified as "ortho" and was wondering if they were compatible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Tue, 16 March 2021, 22:38:35
Ortholinear/ergo keycaps can be used on normal keyboards right? I commonly see keycaps being classified as "ortho" and was wondering if they were compatible.

The individual caps will work in some contexts and not others. It comes down to the board’s form factor. An individual 1u is no different structurally whether it comes from a typical set or an “Ortho” set like this. But the sizes and counts of keys required by standard boards do differ significantly from what is on offer here.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: InvXXVII on Wed, 17 March 2021, 00:42:10
Ortholinear/ergo keycaps can be used on normal keyboards right? I commonly see keycaps being classified as "ortho" and was wondering if they were compatible.

The individual caps will work in some contexts and not others. It comes down to the board’s form factor. An individual 1u is no different structurally whether it comes from a typical set or an “Ortho” set like this. But the sizes and counts of keys required by standard boards do differ significantly from what is on offer here.

Thanks for the info. I guess sets are marked as "ortho" because they require a different number of 1u, 2u, etc. keycaps than a normal board.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Wed, 17 March 2021, 10:42:38

Thanks for the info. I guess sets are marked as "ortho" because they require a different number of 1u, 2u, etc. keycaps than a normal board.

That, and the keys are arranged differently.  On standard boards, keys are row-staggered; each row of alphas and numbers has a slightly different start and end point.  The Z key is below and halfway between the A and S keys, for instance.

On an ortho board, however, most keys are in straight vertical columns and rows (i.e. an ortholinear arrangement by definition).  Good examples are the Planck and Preonic as well as the Minorca seen rendered in the initial post. Most ortho boards only require 1u keys except for some spacebars.  That means that all modifier keys (shift, backspace, enter, etc.) tend to be 1u keys.

The term "Ergo" board tends to refer to boards that use keycaps that match closely with those required for an Ergodox (https://www.ergodox.io) keyboard.  The actual arrangement of these keys can likewise be ortholinear, but the key size requirements differ from "ortho" boards.  Ergodoxian boards use 1.5u modifiers instead of 1u modifiers.

If you want to get really technical, Ergodox and several "ortho" boards are actually what's called "columnar stagger". They are not strictly ortholinear but tend to have the same keycap requirements as Ortho boards.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: Grindbox on Wed, 17 March 2021, 12:07:33
Thank you for this!!!
I'm definitely in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: TK0 on Sun, 11 April 2021, 19:25:58
I'm seriously considering an ergodox. I'm in!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: msting on Sun, 11 April 2021, 20:15:57
Yep, its come to this. BiiP and others used to do some Ergo kits with GMK sets (Dots, Oblivion 2, ...) but since KAT came out that has stopped. I'm just really down on KAT at this point cause Keyreative just won't friggin' deliver.
I'm in all the way on this and if more colors are added, gettin' 'em all.
Now if GMK would produce a KAT profile line..., oh my!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: TK0 on Mon, 12 April 2021, 08:07:12
I'm in all the way on this and if more colors are added, gettin' 'em all.

Yep. GMK CR would also be great, if possible. Would get both.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Mon, 12 April 2021, 09:48:09
I'm in all the way on this and if more colors are added, gettin' 'em all.

Yep. GMK CR would also be great, if possible. Would get both.
My goal is to stick with just the one color for this round and then expand to some others next time.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: JKKEEBS on Mon, 12 April 2021, 14:36:10
Wasn't this done before lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: TK0 on Mon, 12 April 2021, 18:49:08
I'm in all the way on this and if more colors are added, gettin' 'em all.

Yep. GMK CR would also be great, if possible. Would get both.
My goal is to stick with just the one color for this round and then expand to some others next time.

Understandable, specially considering moq. But, what if we have multiple kits (one for each color) and run the IC for each kit/color? Considering they are GMK standard colors, moq should be lower, iirc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Mon, 12 April 2021, 20:35:41
I'm in all the way on this and if more colors are added, gettin' 'em all.

Yep. GMK CR would also be great, if possible. Would get both.
My goal is to stick with just the one color for this round and then expand to some others next time.

Understandable, specially considering moq. But, what if we have multiple kits (one for each color) and run the IC for each kit/color? Considering they are GMK standard colors, moq should be lower, iirc.

The way to keep them most affordable is to price according to higher MOQs than what they can hypothetically run with and not split the market.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: Nuap on Mon, 12 April 2021, 23:40:45
Please consider DailyClack for Oceania vendor:
https://dailyclack.com/pages/about
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: baobaozi on Mon, 12 April 2021, 23:41:02
Any chance of DC as Australian vendor?  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: jimboytacos on Tue, 13 April 2021, 00:15:07
I am actually quite excited for this YES!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: jimboytacos on Tue, 13 April 2021, 00:20:25
I do have a question: Is the thickness and weight of a GMK double shot keycap (with legend, novelties, etc) the same as GMK blank keycap?

The reason I ask is that my GMK Blanks CR (Row 1) has a different sound signature than my GMK WoB (Row 1) - or all my other GMK sets for that matter. Tested on the ESC key of a keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: TK0 on Tue, 13 April 2021, 07:53:46
I'm in all the way on this and if more colors are added, gettin' 'em all.

Yep. GMK CR would also be great, if possible. Would get both.
My goal is to stick with just the one color for this round and then expand to some others next time.

Understandable, specially considering moq. But, what if we have multiple kits (one for each color) and run the IC for each kit/color? Considering they are GMK standard colors, moq should be lower, iirc.

The way to keep them most affordable is to price according to higher MOQs than what they can hypothetically run with and not split the market.

Thanks a lot for the answer. I'm quite new to the hobby, so I don't exactly know most details. I will get the WS1 for sure and look forward to other colors, here and on discord.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Tue, 13 April 2021, 08:24:52
Any chance of DC as Australian vendor?  ;D

Please consider DailyClack for Oceania vendor:
https://dailyclack.com/pages/about

I am reaching out to an Australian vendor and will update this post if anything develops from that.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Mon, 14 June 2021, 11:22:21
Now that the Late Harvest GB is over, I’m going to give some more attention to this. I’m reaching out to vendors to see what they would like in terms of GB dates.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: saam on Mon, 14 June 2021, 11:25:00
It looks great, but I would love to see some other kitting for other boards as well. Good luck!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Mon, 14 June 2021, 14:02:02
It looks great, but I would love to see some other kitting for other boards as well. Good luck!

This is intended as a narrow-focused GB with a singular purpose.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: Neely_12 on Mon, 14 June 2021, 14:14:17
Would like to have black, all also what would the MOQ be for this?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WS1 Ergo & Ortho Blanks
Post by: NoPunIn10Did on Mon, 14 June 2021, 15:43:19
Would like to have black, all also what would the MOQ be for this?

Still working on the bulk order size. Black is something I’m considering for a future run, but I don’t want to cannibalize sales between the two colors.